January 8, 2018 • 55 mins
In episode 59, Jack & Miles are joined by comedian Billy Wayne Davis to discuss more 'Fire & Fury' revelations, Steven Miller getting kicked off CNN, the Golden Globes, Oprah's possible presidency, 200K Salvadorians losing protective status, & more.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season thirteen, episode one
of Dust Daily's eight Guys for January eight, two thousand eight. Team,
my name is Jack O'Brien a k how Stella got
her groove Jack her to see a Tyler Wolton and
I'm joined by my co host, Mr Miles Gray. Right,
it's your boy, Miles a k A three thousand miles
(00:21):
to grays Land. Also from Tyler Bolton at A spinker says,
what so wold he did a double wamby today, so
shout out to him. Also want to shout out Christa
and Florida Emma and d C the American Butcher on Instagram.
I see your Night School's family, Sarah and Boise, very
kind words. Glad to see the Zeit gang is out
there in all places. Oh yeah, and remind me to
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read off the people who sent us screen caps of
their reviews. Hell yet uh And we're thrilled to be
joined in our third seat by the hilarious stand up
comedian Billy Wayne Davis. Hi, everybody, Hey, good morning. Never
know how to come in and hello Billy Wiam what
(01:03):
is uh something that you have searched in the not
too distant pest. That is revealing about who you are
as a human. Ding I looked up how to spell
something so I could win an argument the other day.
I think that defines who I am. Where I was
like this, fucking I don't know how to spell it either.
I had to look it up. What was it that
(01:23):
was adderall? Was ada? I looked up how I don't
use adderall or drugs? And what was the debate using
ts or d s or a number of rs or
l d's and the els and then there's two each.
There's two d s, two ls to dose, two ls
and two rs. No, that would have gone two rs. Yeah,
that's what I was confused about. And then like, so
(01:45):
then how do you get an argument over how adderall
is spelled? It wasn't. That wasn't what I was thinking about.
How I was looking up a joke about it was
a picture of Johnny Cash and Bob Dylan on Twitter
and they just looked like just out of their minds
spad and I just tweeted. I was like, oh, this
is when they used to call adderall speed and I
(02:08):
need to know how to spell it. It really gets
the boom. Yeah, capitalize it because it's a proper, proper drug. Yeah,
that stuff spending the kids for a while. They just
keep renaming like exactly m D M A. It's like
it's ecstasy. No, it's called molly. You used to have
to get it from biker gangs and truckers and now
kids get it from their child psychologists exactly everywhere. Right, Uh,
(02:35):
what's something that's overrated? Billy? Just generally overrated opinions? Alright,
what's something that's underrated? Who were talking about Louie Cats?
Talk about Louie Cats earlier. I think he's very underrated.
He's a funny, funny comedian. What's his what's his material? Like,
I'm not familiar Louie Cats. It's just all clever. There's
(02:55):
no wasted words. It's uh, it's never going to go
on the right in the drug and you think it
is even when it should. Okay, Yeah, I think he's
very very clever and has an interesting, honest look, even
when it's about yourself. I think that's the hardest an
honest look. Like he doesn't look like a snake oil salesman.
What you know? Like his take is all okay? You mean,
(03:16):
like because you know, some people get onto so you
don't trust him. I don't trust him. That's a joke
for everybody. I mean, with my accident, Yeah, you do
need to cleare. We will be announcing all of Billy
Wayne Davis's jokes for him exactly. And that was actually
might help my career on the stage. There's like one
(03:41):
lady like thank you, Right, that's gonna write something, all right.
We're trying to take a sample of the ideas that
are out there changed in the world. We talk about
pop culture, the news, just trying to take the temperature
of the global shared consciousness of the human species. Miles,
what's ope? It's hot. I think it's still hot. It's
getting hot, burning up. I mean, look, President pissed the
(04:03):
bed and he had all kinds of crazy stuff to
deal with. Over again, I think we're like had a
hundred I MTNA say one oh, one oh one point three.
Our mom just put a wet washcloth on her forehead exactly. Well,
didn't this year feel like like I don't know if
you guys have ever served tables, but like when you
have like a crazy busy shift, it's just over like that, right,
(04:23):
And I feel like that's what this year fell, where
I was like, oh, we're done because every day was
a nightmare. Right, It's just NonStop. You just don't know
what just happened. Are we going through like the like
the stages of grief to like year by year, Like,
what's the first one? Is it denial? I thought anger?
Anger and denial is probably the first one. Yeah, where
(04:44):
we none of none of that is accurate, by the way,
what the stages of there, they're like everybody deals with
it and exactly I just don't talk about it and
internalize everything. Let it fester and no one ever really
dies and he knowns ever dead. But we like to
start off by asking our guest what something that's out
(05:08):
there in the share consciousness that they know to be
not true? Uh, they know to be a myth based
on their personal experience. M hm. That what we as
a society define as justice is not necessarily the universe's
definition of justice. That's a that's a big one. I
(05:32):
think dealing with the court system on the light level,
I have good and bad or it's been like, oh okay,
this system is not it's not it's not balanced. Yeah, yeah,
that's a myth. I think that a lot that you know,
the way our court system is and you know, a
(05:56):
prison system functions will be the thing that you know,
our great grandchildren look back on us and they're like,
well they didn't know everybody was okay with it back.
You know, the way that they just put humans in cages.
We have to talk about our founding fathers. Will you
even look on Twitter, everyone's like they should be put
in jail. It's like a joke. They're like, yo, we
(06:18):
got a chill on that talk as a whole, because
that is not a real solution. And most people said,
like you ever spent I mean I've spent like twenty
four hours in jail a couple of times, a couple
of times, three years consecutive. No, no, no, no no.
It was just enough to be like, oh this okay,
I get it. Okay, I get it enough to be
your own version of scared straight. I will not do
(06:39):
this again because I can't leave, can I can't go outside?
Oh when I want to, I get it. So when
people are like, just put people in jailmen, that's not
a solution. It's like throwing your clothes in your closet
and being like I cleaned it. It's out of you. Yeah, yeah,
or like throwing perishable food in your closet and being like, yeah,
(07:04):
well then I ate it. Exactly what did you expect
was going to happen in there? All Right, we're gonna
open up talking about the continuing to evolve fallout from
the Fire and Fury book. No, I can't get my
hands on it. I mean I could get I could
(07:26):
get an e book first. I was gonna be like,
you have that thing, I can hirate it. I can
get a PDF. But yeah, no, I've not. I mean
I've been reading a lot of excerpts. I don't know
if I want to read it quite yet because I'm
just getting all the juicy stuff. I feel like I'm
just gonna like roll my eyes so hard into my head,
like I just I injure myself. Um. But yeah, So
(07:46):
it's by Michael Wolf. We talked about last week, how
you know, not the the most trustworthy source of information
based on his track record. Um, but the president is
certain responding to the allegations in the book in a
way that suggests he's taking them very seriously. Um, he
(08:08):
telegraphs things. It's not a great poker, he is not. Um,
he spent the weekend bragging about how smart he was
after um, you know, last week. So the book came
out and people were shocked that Steve Bannon uh talked
open ship about the president and his kids and just
(08:29):
how stupid it was for them to uh commit treason
and not have other people just do that for them.
And uh, I know he was even like, if you're
gonna do it, yeah, yeah, man, He's like, that's where
going to meet my prostitutes exactly. Uh. But so so
Trump responded to that by calling him sloppy Steve, and
(08:52):
you know, just that's the kiss of death. You got
him nickname, bro, when you get the nickname, you bet.
I bet that got Steve too. I bet Bannon was like,
did you call him sloppy? He like looks in the
mirror for the first time in years. Amazing. It just
(09:12):
it took that nickname for him to have a moment
of like self awareness and pity. Son of a bit,
He's Jim blossom gin blossom face looks terrible. I think
I know why I feel tired a lot. I think
his entire face is basically a Jim Blossom at this point.
Oh yeah, somewhat impressive. Feel like people on Twitter, also
said it looks like I just a rotten can of
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spam too. It's just it's not it's not a it's
not a good look. I tweeted that he is phillipsy
Moore Hoffman's corpse playing Steve Bannon's is what he looks like.
He's like they dug him up and I let him
do it. He's a good actor. That's what he is. Actually,
(09:55):
I tweeted, I was like, he is, and it made
me mad because no one it didn't get his men
as I liked. And then I got mad and retweeted.
I was like, if Patton would have tweeted this, everyone
would be asleep from coming so hard. All right, everyone
give people to date so you can retroactively, like to
retweet that ship. All right, we'll, we'll, we'll retweet. That's
(10:18):
all I really care. But a perfect tweet, but so um.
Bannon has since then responded to the President's name calling
by UH five days later, apologizing and saying his quotes
were taken out of context. Apparently UH. Some of his
financial backers, the Mercer family are you know, are like,
(10:40):
we haven't talked to him in months, and we're not
funding him. Anymore bullshit. Yeah, so uh, he don't know
they're telling the truth now. It's but it's it was
pretty evident that he was on the losing end of
that exchange. So he seems sort of contrite now, which
(11:00):
is an interesting look for the guy who basically had
been on I think, speaking of adderall, I think he
was on like a a three year long adderall binge
and like it's just now coming down from it. What
have I said? No, a friend of mine who's like
one of those anion guys, like he lives in the
(11:21):
wood and like anonymous kind of ann whatever. Um, I'm
not wait what is that? It's just like it's a
Reddit type anonymous kind of people who are like anonymous. Yeah,
he's like a hacker and does others. Oh. I was
like crazy. I was like, whoa you know someone that
I was not putting it together that you know someone
(11:42):
an anonymous or the type of probably all do right
because we all yeah, which makes it interesting. But he
was in on Bannon like really, he was like hip
to him, like really early, and he sent me all
this stuff and I was like and it worried me
because I was like Trump, I have towards the country
(12:03):
enough to recognize like Trump's got what he's saying, hate
is hateful enough to work because I've seen it and
it's more of the country than people realize. And then
watching Bannon, he's very open about who he is, and
people don't listen. Right, he's a he's an anarchist capitalist,
(12:23):
so he he'll just tear everything down to make himself
more money. So he just wants chaos, which is what
he's doing. So he's the one that you're like, we
need to watch him right right right, because he'll just
like he like he said, he's like, I don't know
why you would do it yourself. You get other people
to do it, right there you go like that. The
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most fascinating part of the Expert I read was the
dinner between Ales and Bannon. That was fascinating just how
they think about stuff and how they talk to each other.
That was something that Michael Wolfe was present for, the
author of the book, and it was, Yeah, Roger Ailes,
who was like the founder of Fox News, and Bannon
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and they just kind of sat back and talked about
people like they were, you know, pawns on a chessboard,
as they are to them. That's that's how they work. Um,
and uh into like kind of further twist the knife. Uh.
President Trump sent Bannon Accolyte Stephen Miller onto the shows
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over the weekend to sort of talk about how brilliant
the president is, and um, he got like kicked off
of CNN literally like stopped Jake, Jake, He's like this
is over. And then apparently afterwards that he wouldn't leave
and the security had to escort him off the set
(13:51):
because he was like, no, I'm not going. He's like
if a muppet was evil, he really Uh. And so
one of the things he said to defend President Trump
was that in twenty minutes he would dictate ten paragraphs
of new material to address an event we just saw
on the news, which that that was like the closest
(14:12):
he came to giving a detailed account of like here's
why I know the president is a genius. Uh. That's
not even a compliment. He's just saying he talked a
lot minutes about the news, which is something we know
he could do. It's not like he said he spoke
completely lucidly and like had like all these organized thought. Yeah,
the guy can just like watch the news and then
(14:35):
speak for ten paragraphs. Go to any local open mic, right,
just sit back and watch people talk about the news exactly. Yeah,
it was so clear that like the White House was
being total chaos because clearly Trump is feeling real tight
about this book. Like a lot of that stuff was
especially like knowing that like nobody can change the sheets,
(14:56):
but me like a lot of the embarrassing ship in
there to then have someone out and basically like fulliate
him on TV and be like, this man is a genius.
He could he would deliver this material flawlessly from the
ten thousand people. Like it was so clear, and I
think even Jake Tapper says that he goes, yeah, and
I'm sure your boss is watching, and he look audience
of one, like, I know you're doing this for an
audience of one, and uh yeah, then had to be
(15:18):
physically restrained, uh and taken out of the studio. Oh.
So when you were saying earlier that Trump, what's the bed,
you were talking about the fact that he's the only
one who can change his sheets. Yeah. Yeah, and like
remember that expert I think where they were saying, yeah,
none of the housekeeping staff can change the sheets. He
and he's the one to remove the sheets himself. That's strange,
(15:42):
so you know what that's about. Yeah, I mean, and
again it's only little kids. Yeah alright, yeah, family's not
who we think you. Ums just like a little worse.
I do not pay the bed. I mean other fle
fish and big Max Man. They trips to the bathroom
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and I just wish our president would just piss the
bed and stuff like a normal weirdo. Um. A maybe
more interesting insight into the Trump White House is a
Axios article that just came out. They got their hands on.
So there's the public schedule that the past few presidents
(16:31):
have released that's like, here's what the president's day looks like,
and it has like vague stuff like meetings, you know,
phone call with this country. And then uh, there's the
actual schedule that you know, journalists have to work really
hard to make good connections to get their hands on.
And you know, uh, they finally got their hands on
Trump schedule. And apparently the people around him are worried
(16:55):
because his work day is shrinking. Uh he used to
start his work day at nine. Yeah, I'm good, right,
you want to call him sick again? Yeah, no problem,
stay up there. So he's not starting his work day
till eleven. But the bad news is that he is
(17:15):
spending those first two hours just watching Fox and Friends
and tweeting. Uh, so that's that's not good because he
left to his own right. Um, just to for comparison, uh,
George W. Bush used to arrive in the Oval office
(17:36):
by sixty five. Obama would arrive between nine and ten,
but then he would work until eleven. You know, he'd
take a break to hang out with his daughters and
then work till eleven. And Trump checks in at eleven,
checks out at six, and you know he's not checking
out to spend time with his family. No, he is
(17:56):
in bed eating cheeseburgers six thirty, which is wild. Um,
so yeah, that's that's where we're at. It's wild to
think that. God, remember when everyone hated George W. Bush
and then you know this guy was taking the job
seriously like he was in there like acting like, oh,
he he got that it was the presidency, or at
(18:16):
least he got what his gig was. He knew Dick's
in charge, right exactly, he gets it. But I'm supposed
to look like I'm the decision maker like that when
he said that. I was like, well, that's they have
told him that, and then explained it to him, like, no,
you're the decider, George. He's like okay. And then Dick
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comes in there, he's like, is it this one or
this one? And it's just spelled different, and George is like,
I like that one, and I decided I like that.
Strategical strategic. All right, we're gonna take a quick break.
We'll be right back, and we're back. So we wanted
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to talk a little bit about the Golden Glows. The
go Glows didn't hear anything about um Miles was there.
I was there, yes, because dress to Impress, Dressed to impress, Uh,
you know, nothing but the best. Uh. We're internationally known
and locally respected. Uh. Sadly Santa University was snubbed on air,
(19:28):
but we did get our award. Check the Twitter feed
because it's real. Uh. And but yeah, I was there
just being a social barnacle on the whole of my
mother's career. Your mother is an esteemed member of the
Highwood for Impress. Yeesh, she's been doing it for a second.
So every now and then I'll say like, hey, got
an extra ticket, and then she'll she'll be gracious enough
to uh allow me to join. And this year, yeah,
(19:50):
it was pretty crazy. I mean everybody was. It was
a very much a monumental occasion. I mean, first question,
fly on the wall, view of op a speech which
is being called, uh the speech now eclipsing the I
have a dream speech and the Getty's very good dress.
It's just the speech while it was happening. Yeah, it
was electric. The room was electric. Where were you? I
(20:14):
was at the bar. I did not see. I did
not see the speech live. I caught the tail end though,
because I was like, yo, it's still going on. So
I was like, I went out. I got the very
last part. But that's how the golden globes are. It was.
I walked out when she was walking up to like
(20:34):
Tyke do some garbage stuff, and I literally answered a
couple of emails and came back in and she was
still and I was like, okay, I knew the award
was coming up. So I went to the bar really
quick because the only time you can get up is
during the TV breaks and then like it's a mad
dash to the bar, especially like for the people who
are in that main pit, like they have to be
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real quick with it because like they don't want to
they don't want to have empty seats or anything like that.
But for all the scumbags who are like on the
periphery of the show, I mean like people were like
just like laying down, like just not anyway, so we
were I was at the bar and that was happening.
It sounded like I mean, look in retrospect after looking
at the video, it was a great speech. Uh. And
a lot of people are you know, they they're really
(21:17):
um there. They really want Oprah to be president now right, Uh?
And I don't. I don't agree because I feel like
we need to kind of right the ship and have
like real people that are politically minded, maybe policy minded
coming to these positions. But also, hey, if we're gonna
go you know, TV star for TV Star, then yes,
if it's like Pokemon of of presidential candidates, then Oprah,
(21:39):
I choose you. I'm not I'm not rolling anything out.
Show me who the other candidate is, because I haven't
heard like a great Democratic candidate. And uh, I think
it's an underrated advantage that Trump had is that he
got to project a very stylized, like cleanly edited version
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of himself that was like came directly out of his
imagination of like, you know, a child's idea of a
rich person, and you know that was poor person's idea
of right, and he got to broadcast that to the
entire country for you know, ten years. Uh, and you
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know that that has some power. And so I mean,
if that's what people are going up against, I I
don't know, let's let's see who else we could put
out there. Well, I feel like people they want a
simple solution, and I think last night she can speak right.
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I mean we all know that, and she's powerful when
she's very rehearsed. We've also seen her not rehearse She's
not great, because no one's wonderful. Not rehearsed, you're not
going to be as eloquent. But she gave us a
moment where we're like, mama, fix it, right. And now
today people were like, get put her in the White
House today because she would fix it. But it's like,
(23:04):
m hmm, I don't know. You don't become a billionaire
making friends, right, And people forget that, and we're we're
literally we're actually having conversation where we're talking about do
we want Oprah to take over the presidency from Donald Trump.
That's a conversation we're having that still blows my fucking
mind that we're saying that, Like what That's why I'm
(23:27):
a little concerned, because I'm like, that's how far the
pendulum has swung that we're like, these are like legit
people are writing actual articles about this, which is fine
because like what she said was very inspirational, was something
you know, like the people needed. But they're still at
the end of the day, I'm like, wow, we're talking
about two TV billionaires, like like over who would be
a better president? Right? I mean, yeah, it depends on
(23:49):
how you know, symbolic you want to view the office
of the president. And like, if you just think that
it is about getting a figurehead who can be the
leader out in front, while a very competent team behind
the scenes, does you know, the smart stuff, then maybe
it could work out. But I mean there have been
(24:10):
all all types of presidents. Reagan used to say, if
you can't explain it to me on a postcard or
in a single paragraph, uh, then I don't want to
hear about it and google and you know, he he
was at least effective at getting his ideas past. So um, yeah,
(24:32):
I don't know. Well, we'll see, well I do. Reagan
was a corporate shield his whole career. He was a
commercial and then these all these corporate corporations looked over
and like what about that, dude, And he was like, yeah,
I can do it, and they listened to it. And
it's just all I mean, we're losing the whole conversation
to me, which is it's about rich and poor. And
(24:55):
guess what, Oprah is rich. She's not even rich. She
is wealthy. She's a billionaire, so whether we realize it
or not. And even though the things she does appear
to be really good, most of the things she does
is really really great overall. But when you're a billionaire,
(25:16):
you mean giving that upright, you worked your whole life
to become a billionaire. You're not giving that up. So
you're a business person. So who I want in there
is someone that has been giving for us, like speaks
for the majority of Americans. And by that I don't
mean black, white, whatever, I mean poor people. And that's
(25:38):
it's class. It is rich versus poor, and it's very clear,
and that's what we need to fight at that level.
We need someone that's gonna fight for poor people every day,
and it's not a business person because they don't want
to be poor. So it's got to and to me.
And I know his fans aren't great, but the only
person that's been doing his whole life and said it
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and lived it is Bernie Sanders. I thought you're gonna
say Kanye, but that's what I want Kanye to be
his vice president scare people, not well, we can't kill him.
Then Kanye has been charged. Um yeah, now that's that's
all definitely true, like having having a billionaire I don't know.
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And you're talking about the pendulum swing too. Here's the thing.
In a capitalist society like this, we've swung all the
way to the right. We need some socialism to correctly.
We don't need communism, but we need some socialism. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
because that there are no policies coming out of this
White House to advocate for working poor or people who
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are struggling at all. And that's true, like when you
have if it's rich verse poor, because we clearly are.
That's what America is right now. It's rich and poor.
There's barely a middle, and you have rich people at
the helm constantly. Then there. I mean, no wonder the
situation is only getting better for them and worse for
the other party. So it's I think it's pretty simple logic.
You're you're presenting here, Billy and I agree and advocate conversations.
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It's a very that's what we need to focus on, right,
It's like funk who should be present? Like what about
all like you know, their schools in Baltimore that don't
have heat and the kids are wearring like mittens in
their classes. They don't have electricity. You're you're absolutely right,
So yeah, but I mean back to the golden clothes,
Who were it best? Who wore it best? It'll have
to be me. I just want to add a couple
(27:32):
of things, a couple of observations. Thank you so much,
Thank you so much. Kid Harrington from Game of Thrones,
John Snow, this man is so short that has scared me.
I could not. I thought I was walking up on
a dude who was trying to look like Kid Harrington
from behind. I was like, the short as Kid Harrington
(27:52):
want to be, and then he turned around like Kid Harrington.
He is a little man's five five five five six.
Maybe we're just whispered, Yeah, he's just but yo, that
head of hair. My god, if somebody who's losing their hair,
and my you look at this man's fucking head of hair.
It's like luxury. And I'm telling you, when you are
(28:15):
lacking in the falc little hair department and you look
at somebody with beautiful hair like that, it's like looking
at the ring of power. Like I was like, it
was like calling you, like, I haven't noticed that. That's funny,
you said, I've been noticing Indian women lately because their
hair is amazing. It's like thick and just like wow,
that's great. Yeah, it's like yeah, it's like being poor,
(28:35):
but with hair. You know what I mean. It's like
it's like, wow, that persons hair writ ever noticed that?
That is awesome? I am hair homeless, and I see that,
I'm like, goddamn, like something crazy with their hair, Like yeah,
have fun with it, have fun with it. Yeah, because
I got one look it's called shave it off. Just
don't make me look crazy. But yeah again, and then
(28:56):
you know again, it was a very interesting show because
everyone is wearing black, Like the me Too movement was
was there in full effect. I forget who brought um.
Oh no, Michelle Williams brought Toronto Burke, who is the
actual woman who's who is credited with starting the me
to campaign. UM. And it was interesting, like there was
a lot of times up pins being worn by men.
(29:19):
Some were like I overheard the most BROI agent conversation
at a bar, like from behind me, like, dude TJ.
Like the guy literally said those words. Dude t J
from work screened it across the bar and I look.
Another guy from a cross room throws his hands up,
like what kind of thing? And they come over like, bro,
we're getting fucking wild tonight. And he's like, yeah, we're
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getting dude, it's gonna be fucking crazy. You know how
we do every year, dude, blah blah blah. And I
turned around they all got times up pins and I'm like, wow,
you're gonna respect the ship at Yeah. I was just
like wow, like this it's it's funny because like it
was like the hottest accessory. And I'm glad, you know,
because it's good to see celebrities use their platform a
(30:00):
bit more to actually to speak up on these kinds
of issues. UM. But at the end of the day, right,
like the red carpet is. I was reading this article
of this article in The New Republic that was kind
of talking about how the red carpet is. Basically, it's
hard to make a statement on the red carpet because
the red carpet is not a place for speech. It's
a place to like as they put, it's a space
(30:22):
for visual merchandising, right, like like who looks good, who doesn't? What?
Blah blah blah. And it's true, like, yeah, it's hard
to really get a point across in that way. But
you know, shout out to them for for bringing the
a lot of these activists on. But another thing that
kind of struck me as odd is like like the
hottest successory for a lot of these white actresses was
like a woman of color activists, Like and I was like,
(30:43):
but I see what you're doing. I like it visually,
it's it's a it's a little interesting, it's a little
but I'm glad that we are. You know that at
least there's starting to be a shift. And I don't
know if you guys saw Seth Meyer's opening, Yeah, but
when he started doing jokes about Harvey Wins seen in
Kevin Spacey the room got real like it was triggering,
(31:04):
you know, because I don't know, I get you gotta
do joke triggering or some guilt and I don't know
that's the thing, and like, but the joke were just
like the jokes felt like unnecessary in the sense of
like bringing up like just by saying Harvey Weinstein's name,
like you know, Ashley Judd was there, and like at
the awards, like there are people in that room who
like have probably had fucked up people who might not
(31:27):
even be published. Most people in that room have had
their own experiences with that, right, and it's too involved
with everything, right exactly. And someone tweeted an Oprah picture today,
I said, and it's a picture of her giving kiss
on the cheek. Oh yeah, And it was like the
(31:48):
first one of the first things I saw this more
And I was like, that's pretty funny when you when
you say that you've seen Oprah unscripted and she's not
that great or are you referring to anything in particular,
Just like, Okay, do you remember when Tom Cruise jumped
on that thing? She wasn't great in that moment, right,
And not that anyone would be great, but I mean
if your job is every day to be on that thing.
(32:12):
It just to me, it's like with Letterman, if if
she went awry, that's when it got really funny, right,
But with her, it was like it was just very
aware things are in control, and if they're not, it
ceases to do you know what I mean? Interesting? And
I have seen behind the scenes things and interviews with
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her where it seems you just get the impression, Okay,
she left Earth a long time ago. She's been in
her bubble of oprah nous and like, yeah, her name
is one word, right, and there's not anything that she
can necessarily do because she's running a business that is
(32:53):
about oprah nous. But like when you see stuff behind
the scenes, and yeah, just the way she kind of
talk sometimes that it does raise the question of how
in touch with reality she is. But then there's a
question of how in touch with reality do we need
the president to be? Very Yeah, I think Barack Obama
was a great example someone with their foot firmly planet
(33:17):
on the right, and he was a community organizing. And
if we can go back to the Fire and Fury book,
there was a there's a brief little paragraph between Ails
and Bannon with a mentioned Obama and they talked about
how foreign he was. No one in the business world
knew him, No one in this place knew him. I
(33:39):
just found that fascinating and it to me, it opened
my eyes. I was like, Oh, that's why the Republicans
stopped everything he tried to do because they didn't know
what he was really trying to do, so that he
scared the living ship out of all those people out
like industry because they didn't know who he was. And
then it was an eye opening I was like Hillary,
(34:00):
they all know Hillary where she's at? Right? Um, back
to the important stuff, the golden globes. Um. I have
seen the reaction of Okay, Hollywood is being a little
bit self congratulatory for having just been outed as the
(34:21):
work Hollywood is being a little self right. Um. Super
producer Anna Hosnier came in and this morning and said
she was a little bit over the whole Hollywood jerking
itself off thing, uh and illustrated with uh really vivid
visual pantomimes that were quite frankly working appropriate. But I
(34:46):
don't know it so we have no record in this climate. Um,
but I I don't know. It did seem like there
was a mixture of we're addressing this problem and look
how amazing I am. For look, I'm just in timber Lake.
I've got a uh times up pin on and like
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hashtag this is why we protest or this is why
we stand up. But then like he is there because
he was in a woody and uh, you know, I
don't there there were people wearing times up pins who
have there There are people who are both openly have
some issues in their past and people who, you know,
(35:27):
just being out here and talking to a lot of
people in the industry are probably the movement is coming
for at some point who were up on stage wearing
times Up pins. Uh So we're not gonna say specific
names because nobody has made specific allegations about these people yet,
but just you know, keep an eye out for people
(35:49):
who are up there on stage rocking the times up
pin who might have problematic stuff. All of Hollywood has
a is problematic right because I'm not ah taken away
from the women's issue here, but Hollywood is a weird
(36:10):
one to come after because this whole town is based
around fucking. If we're being honest about it, there's a
sexual thing to this whole town. They're selling this whole
town is selling sex. So the whole thing is weird,
right that the conversation is it's just weird. So I
don't know what. Yeah, I mean, it's just like and
(36:31):
it's an industry based on like selling illusion too, and
it's like yeah, there's it's all intrigue and you don't
know what's what and and it's not a normal they're
not normal job. It's just the whole thing is not
It's like, it's an interesting time to watch people try
to regulate an industry that's they've been trying to regulate
(36:52):
for hundreds of years and they can't really because it's
like a wait, hundreds of years. I think they've been
trying to like since wait, what are we talking about?
The film industry? Not hundreds but I mean if i'd
be like, yo, wait, what do you know about? Yeah? Oh,
you guys have never seen this ancient Yeah. I got
(37:14):
in back to a party in the hills one time.
It was they showed me tapes. I was the only
one not wearing a mask. Um all right, uh yeah
see I just brought up a problem where there's no solution.
It's just like that's this the whole problem is this
town is based on well, it's like a bunch of
unchecked egos. It's power, it's it's it's a deception. It's crazy. Yeah,
(37:38):
Like how do you regulate a fucking madhouse in that way? Like,
people's motivations aren't the same. Some people are here just
to sell one person in their hometown can eat it,
you know what I mean, right, right, And then other
people came here so they could get power and get laid.
And then other people are like actual actors who just
(37:59):
want to act. Yeah, people like to be an artist
because yeah, I have to make money doing that, and
this is one of a few players you can do that, right. Yeah.
So I mean hopefully addressing some of this stuff is
going to move in a direction to make it easier
to weed the talent out from the and the people
who are interested in art out from yeah, you know,
(38:20):
the people who are here to just Yeah. I mean,
despite like my own misgivings about some of like the
you know, activists kind of stuff, I think it is
good now now that it is just commonplace to begin
calling out the like these kinds of things like sexual
abuse or harassment or uh like wage inequality, or lack
of representation between like people of color and things like that.
(38:44):
I think it's good now that that those are things
you can just blatantly just you say them out loud
now and it's not like a hot take. It's like, yeah,
we're gonna we just need to be in just put
it all out there, put it all out there. So
hopefully it's not just a fucking moment, you know what
I mean. And that's that's the one thing is that
that's why everybody's like, that's great and all to where
the pins and where black is like, but until you
start putting like women in positions of power and hiring
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more women of color, hiring more women to direct, I mean,
like the director was there. I don't think there was
one win director, right. Nataliemportmans specifically said it was like
right after the Oprah speech and she was like, fuck it,
we're gonna, yeah, we're gonna say and now here are
the nominees for the here the all male nominees for
Best Ye. And it's good because it makes it makes
(39:28):
people like this, but you need that discomfort to begin
to open your eyes a bit. So let's hope that
this moment is a movement. Right, all right, we're gonna
take a quick break. We'll be right and we're back. Uh.
(39:49):
So we have two stories still left to talk about
on our spreadsheet. We have the fact that two hundred
thousand uh people from El Salvador are losing their protected
status today. Uh. They were given protected status after devastating
earthquakes in their home country UH made it basically uninhabitable.
(40:16):
It has one of the highest murder rates now of
any country in the world. And today the Trump administration
announced that they were choosing this time to basically lift
the protected status and kick all of these people out
(40:38):
of the country, which is Sarah and El Salvador. Like,
I think even people in El salva are saying, the
country is not prepared for the return of two hundred
thousand people. It's already it's not even good for the
residents that are there now. It's just in shambles and people.
And like his whole obsession with M. S thirt team,
(40:58):
which he saw on a Fox thing when track that
back down where when he started talking about MS thirt
was from some Fox segment. What he doesn't understand is,
like people think it started Nel Salvador started here because
of what we did, they can. It's why any gang
starts is to protect your community. So apparently there are
(41:20):
a bunch of Salvadoran people who are helping rebuild America
after these huge super hurricanes that came through um that
they are rounding up and you know, sending back, and
I mean, that's that's a no win no matter what
side you're on, really, right. And then the other story
(41:41):
we have is football, guys. Yeah, thank god, yeah, you've
you've been so bored this whole show. The NFL playoffs
for this weekend, and the college football Championship is tonight,
and that's a game now that actually determines who the
(42:02):
winner is, because the last time I paid attention to
college football, it was like a bunch of fucking algorithms
that said, oh no, this team is the best one.
It still is, but they break it down to four
instead to now and then the four? Do people like that,
what's the best way to have one of the four?
They love it right right, right right, but it's what
(42:22):
do you mean, what's the best play? I mean, like
it would it the best way to just have like
a like a march madness type of thing where like
people go into like an actual playoff tournament and the players, right,
I mean I was a college player and they were like,
let's add some more games, and I was going to
and I wanted to go to the league and like
go funk yourself, right, I mean, I got recruited play
(42:45):
college football and I got Uh. I was interested until
I went to some and saw them practice and then
their games, and I was like, oh, they hit hard
every time. No, right, right, right now, these are the
best guys from high school and they're all all on
the same team. Oh that trying to kill you in
practice every day for fun. The NFL player who retired
(43:07):
after I think his rookie season, I forget his name
now because he was just worried about you know, CTE
was on I think the Bill Simmons podcast fairly recently
and talking about how uh that's one of the main
things that he once changed, is just people like beat
(43:28):
the ship out of each other and like destroy each
other's brains in practice, right, because we only see what
happens on game day, Like imagine the dark, like fucked
up injuries that are I mean, when I was in
high school, the reason I went to play baseball and
college and not football was the way I looked at
it was like, okay, at two fifteen during the fall,
I would look and be like, oh, no practice football
(43:49):
practice right, and in baseball but like hurry up. Baseball
practice is fun, Like, oh, I want to go do that? Yeah,
not like school sanctioned violence. Yeah. And I was like,
I don't want to professional sports? Which one do? I
want to go baseball? Yeah, because I can play for
fifteen years if I'm good or not. Yeah. And you
can basically be overweight and still a professional exactly the
(44:10):
most American ship can see. If you've got good handout
co ordination, it doesn't matter how big you are in
that mid six exactly. David Wells like let himself go
at the peak of his career. It made him better.
Yeah he was, he says, drunk when he pitched a
perfect game from the night before. Uh yeah, he's like hungover,
(44:31):
hungover drunk. My favorite John Kruk quote is that the
ladies like, you're not an athlete. Hell now I'm not
an athlete, lady, I'm a baseball player. Um but anyways,
I mean, I mean, I don't hate the playoff. I
like it better than when it was just you know,
they decided, Okay, this game is for the championship and
it's between maybe the one and two team. I like
(44:54):
that there's a four team playoffs. I wouldn't mind them
moving it up a little bit so that you know,
you had one less regular season game and it was
eight teams playing each other, so that you know they're
some of these teams like Central Florida or something like
that like got in like a couple of wild cards
like that, and then whoever wins the major conferences and
(45:17):
just add a couple more games and then then it
would have some of the feel of you know, March Madness,
which is I think the gold standard of you know,
college sport playoff or just any sort of playoff because
it's single elimination and you've got these huge, you know,
juggernaut franchises of like North Carolina and Duke going up
(45:39):
against you know, small schools. George Mason's yeah, um, so
different sports though different sports, that's for sufferent. How many
times has Alabama been the championship recently? Like, aren't they
don't They spend the most out of everybody in the
NUBLE or like nearly the most far. I mean they
also make the most the most I've seen, the funniest
(46:02):
place I've ever seen. I grew up in the SEC.
I grew up forty other menus from Knoxhill, Tennessee, Neeland stadiums.
You know, I didn't go to Tennessee, but I love
Tennessee football, you know what I mean. But Tuscaloos is
something different. You go down there is a tiny town,
like I'll go. I went this summer. I was rolling
through and I did stand up and it's empty. But
(46:24):
then I drive to the middle of town and that's
where the stadium is. So the whole town is built
around the stadium. Even the university is built around everything
about that town the nucleus. And not even like in
metaphor an aerial view, which the way they've done it,
everybody looks. I mean, we went and there's a Starbucks
(46:47):
across the street from the stadium, and we went in there.
All the women looking like, all the dudes look like
I mean, it is a cult. A lot of under armour,
camel hoodies. It is what you think, exactly think it
would be right in all year round. It is crazy.
It's crazy. And then people are like, well, how can
(47:07):
all these crazy politics happen because people don't care, right right, right,
right right, they don't care, and that's the stadium is
the most important. Um, so I was wrong. University of
Alabama is only the sixth most valuable college football team.
Their current value is ninety three million dollars just because
(47:28):
people in all of them are poor. Probably that's it, right,
And they as a team, they have certain advantages. Like
Nick Saban started hiring all these analysts. So you're only
allowed to have a total of nine coaches on your bench,
but he would have like thirty like analysts who were
(47:48):
actually former head coaches in college football, like huge franchises.
It's like he has a consultant, a hedge fund up
in like behind him, up in the coach's box, just
like feeding him and for me, and so like nothing
is left up to chance. Um and Billy, weren't you
saying that your dad? Oh yeah, my dad's met My
dad's a high school football coach. Um. So he goes
(48:10):
to these coaching clinics. He went down the Alabama and
he was like, Saban walks in and there's not a
hair out of place. Everything is just just everything has
its place and it is order everything is order, and
then he was like the next day Rex Ryan walked in,
He's like cut off sweats on, He's like a catchup
on his cheek. He's just saying for no reason. He's like,
(48:31):
he's like, say, football is a totally different game, Like
two very successful coaches, two totally different styles. He's like
during he's like, Saban knew the answer to every question.
He's like during the Rex Ryan, they asked him about
like what this lineman does, and Rex Ryan's like, I
don't know. As the fucking line coach, I'm the head coach.
So tonight it's Alabama versus Georgia. Georgia. I think everybody
(48:55):
who's not part of that cult is part of that cult.
Down on Tuscaloosa, he said, is probably rooting for Georgia
just because Alabama has become the Yankees of college football,
and so you kind of want to see the underdog.
And I think Trump's going down there too, right, He'll
be there. Yeah, And he's a big college football man.
(49:16):
He's a big Actually that isn't it Like the first
time they've had a halftime performance like out of college football.
It's crazy that he's not performing at the super Bowl,
But I think this is all in Well, it's Alabama
versus Georgia, so I think like they might be receptive
to it down in Georgia, Right, that's my theory. But Atlanta, right, No,
(49:37):
and their stadium is fucking insane. That I that, like,
whatever the technological term is for that thing, it is dope.
And I totally failed to describe it like sort of
looks like the aperture of like a camera, Like how
it like the way a camera shutter opens like spreads out,
and that's how they open their ship. It's a retractable roof.
(49:57):
But yeah, but the way it's sort of like opens
up is very poetic. It's visual poetry, poetry. And the
way the guys you can't see this, but the way
Billy is doing it with his hands is exactly what
it does. That's amazing. Uh. And the NFL playoffs were
this weekend. Uh, did you guys watch it? I watched
the Rams just because I was like, oh, cool, like
(50:20):
a l A team, and then I was like no,
and then I turned it off pretty quickly. The games
everybody said we're gonna be bad, We're good, and the
games that everybody said we're going to be good. We're bad.
But I was, for some reason bored enough to be
watching the Titans game. Titans, who are they playing Chiefs?
Chiefs Tennessee Titans versus the Canada destroyed? They are going
(50:43):
to get destroyed. But that was a great game. Yeah,
So next week the game's probably get worse because you
have teams like Tennessee going up against the Patriots. But
there was a quarterback, Marcus Mariotta from Oregon is like
quarterback for the Tennessee Titans, and he was a lot
of fun to watch in that game. Stat that he
(51:04):
threw himself a pass through himself a pass through. He
threw a pass that got batted up and he caught
it and ran it in for a touchdown. It's pretty dope, yeah,
because someone was just showing me on their phone. They're like,
you know, look at this stat and I was like,
Mary had a throw to himself for a touchdown. That
makes sense. And once again the Buffalo Bills UH coach
brought in a white backup quarterback when it counted and
(51:28):
the guy through an interception. Now, granted, Tyrod Taylor did
not have a good day, but on the final driver,
maybe the last couple of drives. I only saw the
final drive. He brought in a a backup quarterback. This
is this is the team where the Buffalo coach, after
Tyrod Taylor had had like an okay beginning to the season,
(51:49):
he benched him in favor of this young quarterback who,
uh you know, like more fit the profile of what
an NFL pocket passer's supposed to be. And he threw
like seven interceptions in his first game. It was it
was like some sort of record. Uh So, once again
at the end of the game, they're down by a
(52:09):
touchdown and he brings in I don't know, it couldn't
have been the same backup quarterback because I think that
guy just quit football. But the guy had a bad
had a bad series. Once again. Hey, NFL sounds cool though, Yeah,
so much sounds bowl man, And I'm just there for
(52:31):
the commercials there It is all right, that's gonna do
it for today. Billy Wayne, Thank you for having it.
Thank you so much for coming on. We love having
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If you google Billy Wayne Davis, all that stuff comes up.
Are you the only Billy Wayne Davis? No, there's a
dude in Australia, and then there's a dude in Arkansas.
They're pretty cool, um, just normal dudes. And then there's
(52:52):
like a of course, there's like a like some inspirational
church person named Billy Wayne. So do people ever confu
use you with him? Okay, yeah, right one, they have it.
They realized their lives. This isn't the same guy, Miles.
Where can people follow you? You can follow me, I
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comedian Billy Wayne Davis. Hi, everybody, Hey, good morning. Never
know how to come in and hello Billy Wiam what
(01:03):
is uh something that you have searched in the not
too distant pest. That is revealing about who you are
as a human. Ding I looked up how to spell
something so I could win an argument the other day.
I think that defines who I am. Where I was
like this, fucking I don't know how to spell it either.
I had to look it up. What was it that
(01:23):
was adderall? Was ada? I looked up how I don't
use adderall or drugs? And what was the debate using
ts or d s or a number of rs or
l d's and the els and then there's two each.
There's two d s, two ls to dose, two ls
and two rs. No, that would have gone two rs. Yeah,
that's what I was confused about. And then like, so
(01:45):
then how do you get an argument over how adderall
is spelled? It wasn't. That wasn't what I was thinking about.
How I was looking up a joke about it was
a picture of Johnny Cash and Bob Dylan on Twitter
and they just looked like just out of their minds
spad and I just tweeted. I was like, oh, this
is when they used to call adderall speed and I
(02:08):
need to know how to spell it. It really gets
the boom. Yeah, capitalize it because it's a proper, proper drug. Yeah,
that stuff spending the kids for a while. They just
keep renaming like exactly m D M A. It's like
it's ecstasy. No, it's called molly. You used to have
to get it from biker gangs and truckers and now
kids get it from their child psychologists exactly everywhere. Right, Uh,
(02:35):
what's something that's overrated? Billy? Just generally overrated opinions? Alright,
what's something that's underrated? Who were talking about Louie Cats?
Talk about Louie Cats earlier. I think he's very underrated.
He's a funny, funny comedian. What's his what's his material? Like,
I'm not familiar Louie Cats. It's just all clever. There's
(02:55):
no wasted words. It's uh, it's never going to go
on the right in the drug and you think it
is even when it should. Okay, Yeah, I think he's
very very clever and has an interesting, honest look, even
when it's about yourself. I think that's the hardest an
honest look. Like he doesn't look like a snake oil salesman.
What you know? Like his take is all okay? You mean,
(03:16):
like because you know, some people get onto so you
don't trust him. I don't trust him. That's a joke
for everybody. I mean, with my accident, Yeah, you do
need to cleare. We will be announcing all of Billy
Wayne Davis's jokes for him exactly. And that was actually
might help my career on the stage. There's like one
(03:41):
lady like thank you, Right, that's gonna write something, all right.
We're trying to take a sample of the ideas that
are out there changed in the world. We talk about
pop culture, the news, just trying to take the temperature
of the global shared consciousness of the human species. Miles,
what's ope? It's hot. I think it's still hot. It's
getting hot, burning up. I mean, look, President pissed the
(04:03):
bed and he had all kinds of crazy stuff to
deal with. Over again, I think we're like had a
hundred I MTNA say one oh, one oh one point three.
Our mom just put a wet washcloth on her forehead exactly. Well,
didn't this year feel like like I don't know if
you guys have ever served tables, but like when you
have like a crazy busy shift, it's just over like that, right,
(04:23):
And I feel like that's what this year fell, where
I was like, oh, we're done because every day was
a nightmare. Right, It's just NonStop. You just don't know
what just happened. Are we going through like the like
the stages of grief to like year by year, Like,
what's the first one? Is it denial? I thought anger?
Anger and denial is probably the first one. Yeah, where
(04:44):
we none of none of that is accurate, by the way,
what the stages of there, they're like everybody deals with
it and exactly I just don't talk about it and
internalize everything. Let it fester and no one ever really
dies and he knowns ever dead. But we like to
start off by asking our guest what something that's out
(05:08):
there in the share consciousness that they know to be
not true? Uh, they know to be a myth based
on their personal experience. M hm. That what we as
a society define as justice is not necessarily the universe's
definition of justice. That's a that's a big one. I
(05:32):
think dealing with the court system on the light level,
I have good and bad or it's been like, oh okay,
this system is not it's not it's not balanced. Yeah, yeah,
that's a myth. I think that a lot that you know,
the way our court system is and you know, a
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prison system functions will be the thing that you know,
our great grandchildren look back on us and they're like,
well they didn't know everybody was okay with it back.
You know, the way that they just put humans in cages.
We have to talk about our founding fathers. Will you
even look on Twitter, everyone's like they should be put
in jail. It's like a joke. They're like, yo, we
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got a chill on that talk as a whole, because
that is not a real solution. And most people said,
like you ever spent I mean I've spent like twenty
four hours in jail a couple of times, a couple
of times, three years consecutive. No, no, no, no no.
It was just enough to be like, oh this okay,
I get it. Okay, I get it enough to be
your own version of scared straight. I will not do
(06:39):
this again because I can't leave, can I can't go outside?
Oh when I want to, I get it. So when
people are like, just put people in jailmen, that's not
a solution. It's like throwing your clothes in your closet
and being like I cleaned it. It's out of you. Yeah, yeah,
or like throwing perishable food in your closet and being like, yeah,
(07:04):
well then I ate it. Exactly what did you expect
was going to happen in there? All Right, we're gonna
open up talking about the continuing to evolve fallout from
the Fire and Fury book. No, I can't get my
hands on it. I mean I could get I could
(07:26):
get an e book first. I was gonna be like,
you have that thing, I can hirate it. I can
get a PDF. But yeah, no, I've not. I mean
I've been reading a lot of excerpts. I don't know
if I want to read it quite yet because I'm
just getting all the juicy stuff. I feel like I'm
just gonna like roll my eyes so hard into my head,
like I just I injure myself. Um. But yeah, So
(07:46):
it's by Michael Wolf. We talked about last week, how
you know, not the the most trustworthy source of information
based on his track record. Um, but the president is
certain responding to the allegations in the book in a
way that suggests he's taking them very seriously. Um, he
(08:08):
telegraphs things. It's not a great poker, he is not. Um,
he spent the weekend bragging about how smart he was
after um, you know, last week. So the book came
out and people were shocked that Steve Bannon uh talked
open ship about the president and his kids and just
(08:29):
how stupid it was for them to uh commit treason
and not have other people just do that for them.
And uh, I know he was even like, if you're
gonna do it, yeah, yeah, man, He's like, that's where
going to meet my prostitutes exactly. Uh. But so so
Trump responded to that by calling him sloppy Steve, and
(08:52):
you know, just that's the kiss of death. You got
him nickname, bro, when you get the nickname, you bet.
I bet that got Steve too. I bet Bannon was like,
did you call him sloppy? He like looks in the
mirror for the first time in years. Amazing. It just
(09:12):
it took that nickname for him to have a moment
of like self awareness and pity. Son of a bit,
He's Jim blossom gin blossom face looks terrible. I think
I know why I feel tired a lot. I think
his entire face is basically a Jim Blossom at this point.
Oh yeah, somewhat impressive. Feel like people on Twitter, also
said it looks like I just a rotten can of
(09:34):
spam too. It's just it's not it's not a it's
not a good look. I tweeted that he is phillipsy
Moore Hoffman's corpse playing Steve Bannon's is what he looks like.
He's like they dug him up and I let him
do it. He's a good actor. That's what he is. Actually,
(09:55):
I tweeted, I was like, he is, and it made
me mad because no one it didn't get his men
as I liked. And then I got mad and retweeted.
I was like, if Patton would have tweeted this, everyone
would be asleep from coming so hard. All right, everyone
give people to date so you can retroactively, like to
retweet that ship. All right, we'll, we'll, we'll retweet. That's
(10:18):
all I really care. But a perfect tweet, but so um.
Bannon has since then responded to the President's name calling
by UH five days later, apologizing and saying his quotes
were taken out of context. Apparently UH. Some of his
financial backers, the Mercer family are you know, are like,
(10:40):
we haven't talked to him in months, and we're not
funding him. Anymore bullshit. Yeah, so uh, he don't know
they're telling the truth now. It's but it's it was
pretty evident that he was on the losing end of
that exchange. So he seems sort of contrite now, which
(11:00):
is an interesting look for the guy who basically had
been on I think, speaking of adderall, I think he
was on like a a three year long adderall binge
and like it's just now coming down from it. What
have I said? No, a friend of mine who's like
one of those anion guys, like he lives in the
(11:21):
wood and like anonymous kind of ann whatever. Um, I'm
not wait what is that? It's just like it's a
Reddit type anonymous kind of people who are like anonymous. Yeah,
he's like a hacker and does others. Oh. I was
like crazy. I was like, whoa you know someone that
I was not putting it together that you know someone
(11:42):
an anonymous or the type of probably all do right
because we all yeah, which makes it interesting. But he
was in on Bannon like really, he was like hip
to him, like really early, and he sent me all
this stuff and I was like and it worried me
because I was like Trump, I have towards the country
(12:03):
enough to recognize like Trump's got what he's saying, hate
is hateful enough to work because I've seen it and
it's more of the country than people realize. And then
watching Bannon, he's very open about who he is, and
people don't listen. Right, he's a he's an anarchist capitalist,
(12:23):
so he he'll just tear everything down to make himself
more money. So he just wants chaos, which is what
he's doing. So he's the one that you're like, we
need to watch him right right right, because he'll just
like he like he said, he's like, I don't know
why you would do it yourself. You get other people
to do it, right there you go like that. The
(12:44):
most fascinating part of the Expert I read was the
dinner between Ales and Bannon. That was fascinating just how
they think about stuff and how they talk to each other.
That was something that Michael Wolfe was present for, the
author of the book, and it was, Yeah, Roger Ailes,
who was like the founder of Fox News, and Bannon
(13:06):
and they just kind of sat back and talked about
people like they were, you know, pawns on a chessboard,
as they are to them. That's that's how they work. Um,
and uh into like kind of further twist the knife. Uh.
President Trump sent Bannon Accolyte Stephen Miller onto the shows
(13:30):
over the weekend to sort of talk about how brilliant
the president is, and um, he got like kicked off
of CNN literally like stopped Jake, Jake, He's like this
is over. And then apparently afterwards that he wouldn't leave
and the security had to escort him off the set
(13:51):
because he was like, no, I'm not going. He's like
if a muppet was evil, he really Uh. And so
one of the things he said to defend President Trump
was that in twenty minutes he would dictate ten paragraphs
of new material to address an event we just saw
on the news, which that that was like the closest
(14:12):
he came to giving a detailed account of like here's
why I know the president is a genius. Uh. That's
not even a compliment. He's just saying he talked a
lot minutes about the news, which is something we know
he could do. It's not like he said he spoke
completely lucidly and like had like all these organized thought. Yeah,
the guy can just like watch the news and then
(14:35):
speak for ten paragraphs. Go to any local open mic, right,
just sit back and watch people talk about the news exactly. Yeah,
it was so clear that like the White House was
being total chaos because clearly Trump is feeling real tight
about this book. Like a lot of that stuff was
especially like knowing that like nobody can change the sheets,
(14:56):
but me like a lot of the embarrassing ship in
there to then have someone out and basically like fulliate
him on TV and be like, this man is a genius.
He could he would deliver this material flawlessly from the
ten thousand people. Like it was so clear, and I
think even Jake Tapper says that he goes, yeah, and
I'm sure your boss is watching, and he look audience
of one, like, I know you're doing this for an
audience of one, and uh yeah, then had to be
(15:18):
physically restrained, uh and taken out of the studio. Oh.
So when you were saying earlier that Trump, what's the bed,
you were talking about the fact that he's the only
one who can change his sheets. Yeah. Yeah, and like
remember that expert I think where they were saying, yeah,
none of the housekeeping staff can change the sheets. He
and he's the one to remove the sheets himself. That's strange,
(15:42):
so you know what that's about. Yeah, I mean, and
again it's only little kids. Yeah alright, yeah, family's not
who we think you. Ums just like a little worse.
I do not pay the bed. I mean other fle
fish and big Max Man. They trips to the bathroom
(16:07):
and I just wish our president would just piss the
bed and stuff like a normal weirdo. Um. A maybe
more interesting insight into the Trump White House is a
Axios article that just came out. They got their hands on.
So there's the public schedule that the past few presidents
(16:31):
have released that's like, here's what the president's day looks like,
and it has like vague stuff like meetings, you know,
phone call with this country. And then uh, there's the
actual schedule that you know, journalists have to work really
hard to make good connections to get their hands on.
And you know, uh, they finally got their hands on
Trump schedule. And apparently the people around him are worried
(16:55):
because his work day is shrinking. Uh he used to
start his work day at nine. Yeah, I'm good, right,
you want to call him sick again? Yeah, no problem,
stay up there. So he's not starting his work day
till eleven. But the bad news is that he is
(17:15):
spending those first two hours just watching Fox and Friends
and tweeting. Uh, so that's that's not good because he
left to his own right. Um, just to for comparison, uh,
George W. Bush used to arrive in the Oval office
(17:36):
by sixty five. Obama would arrive between nine and ten,
but then he would work until eleven. You know, he'd
take a break to hang out with his daughters and
then work till eleven. And Trump checks in at eleven,
checks out at six, and you know he's not checking
out to spend time with his family. No, he is
(17:56):
in bed eating cheeseburgers six thirty, which is wild. Um,
so yeah, that's that's where we're at. It's wild to
think that. God, remember when everyone hated George W. Bush
and then you know this guy was taking the job
seriously like he was in there like acting like, oh,
he he got that it was the presidency, or at
(18:16):
least he got what his gig was. He knew Dick's
in charge, right exactly, he gets it. But I'm supposed
to look like I'm the decision maker like that when
he said that. I was like, well, that's they have
told him that, and then explained it to him, like, no,
you're the decider, George. He's like okay. And then Dick
(18:39):
comes in there, he's like, is it this one or
this one? And it's just spelled different, and George is like,
I like that one, and I decided I like that.
Strategical strategic. All right, we're gonna take a quick break.
We'll be right back, and we're back. So we wanted
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to talk a little bit about the Golden Glows. The
go Glows didn't hear anything about um Miles was there.
I was there, yes, because dress to Impress, Dressed to impress, Uh,
you know, nothing but the best. Uh. We're internationally known
and locally respected. Uh. Sadly Santa University was snubbed on air,
(19:28):
but we did get our award. Check the Twitter feed
because it's real. Uh. And but yeah, I was there
just being a social barnacle on the whole of my
mother's career. Your mother is an esteemed member of the
Highwood for Impress. Yeesh, she's been doing it for a second.
So every now and then I'll say like, hey, got
an extra ticket, and then she'll she'll be gracious enough
to uh allow me to join. And this year, yeah,
(19:50):
it was pretty crazy. I mean everybody was. It was
a very much a monumental occasion. I mean, first question,
fly on the wall, view of op a speech which
is being called, uh the speech now eclipsing the I
have a dream speech and the Getty's very good dress.
It's just the speech while it was happening. Yeah, it
was electric. The room was electric. Where were you? I
(20:14):
was at the bar. I did not see. I did
not see the speech live. I caught the tail end though,
because I was like, yo, it's still going on. So
I was like, I went out. I got the very
last part. But that's how the golden globes are. It was.
I walked out when she was walking up to like
(20:34):
Tyke do some garbage stuff, and I literally answered a
couple of emails and came back in and she was
still and I was like, okay, I knew the award
was coming up. So I went to the bar really
quick because the only time you can get up is
during the TV breaks and then like it's a mad
dash to the bar, especially like for the people who
are in that main pit, like they have to be
(20:55):
real quick with it because like they don't want to
they don't want to have empty seats or anything like that.
But for all the scumbags who are like on the
periphery of the show, I mean like people were like
just like laying down, like just not anyway, so we
were I was at the bar and that was happening.
It sounded like I mean, look in retrospect after looking
at the video, it was a great speech. Uh. And
a lot of people are you know, they they're really
(21:17):
um there. They really want Oprah to be president now right, Uh?
And I don't. I don't agree because I feel like
we need to kind of right the ship and have
like real people that are politically minded, maybe policy minded
coming to these positions. But also, hey, if we're gonna
go you know, TV star for TV Star, then yes,
if it's like Pokemon of of presidential candidates, then Oprah,
(21:39):
I choose you. I'm not I'm not rolling anything out.
Show me who the other candidate is, because I haven't
heard like a great Democratic candidate. And uh, I think
it's an underrated advantage that Trump had is that he
got to project a very stylized, like cleanly edited version
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of himself that was like came directly out of his
imagination of like, you know, a child's idea of a
rich person, and you know that was poor person's idea
of right, and he got to broadcast that to the
entire country for you know, ten years. Uh, and you
(22:22):
know that that has some power. And so I mean,
if that's what people are going up against, I I
don't know, let's let's see who else we could put
out there. Well, I feel like people they want a
simple solution, and I think last night she can speak right.
(22:42):
I mean we all know that, and she's powerful when
she's very rehearsed. We've also seen her not rehearse She's
not great, because no one's wonderful. Not rehearsed, you're not
going to be as eloquent. But she gave us a
moment where we're like, mama, fix it, right. And now
today people were like, get put her in the White
House today because she would fix it. But it's like,
(23:04):
m hmm, I don't know. You don't become a billionaire
making friends, right, And people forget that, and we're we're
literally we're actually having conversation where we're talking about do
we want Oprah to take over the presidency from Donald Trump.
That's a conversation we're having that still blows my fucking
mind that we're saying that, Like what That's why I'm
(23:27):
a little concerned, because I'm like, that's how far the
pendulum has swung that we're like, these are like legit
people are writing actual articles about this, which is fine
because like what she said was very inspirational, was something
you know, like the people needed. But they're still at
the end of the day, I'm like, wow, we're talking
about two TV billionaires, like like over who would be
a better president? Right? I mean, yeah, it depends on
(23:49):
how you know, symbolic you want to view the office
of the president. And like, if you just think that
it is about getting a figurehead who can be the
leader out in front, while a very competent team behind
the scenes, does you know, the smart stuff, then maybe
it could work out. But I mean there have been
(24:10):
all all types of presidents. Reagan used to say, if
you can't explain it to me on a postcard or
in a single paragraph, uh, then I don't want to
hear about it and google and you know, he he
was at least effective at getting his ideas past. So um, yeah,
(24:32):
I don't know. Well, we'll see, well I do. Reagan
was a corporate shield his whole career. He was a
commercial and then these all these corporate corporations looked over
and like what about that, dude, And he was like, yeah,
I can do it, and they listened to it. And
it's just all I mean, we're losing the whole conversation
to me, which is it's about rich and poor. And
(24:55):
guess what, Oprah is rich. She's not even rich. She
is wealthy. She's a billionaire, so whether we realize it
or not. And even though the things she does appear
to be really good, most of the things she does
is really really great overall. But when you're a billionaire,
(25:16):
you mean giving that upright, you worked your whole life
to become a billionaire. You're not giving that up. So
you're a business person. So who I want in there
is someone that has been giving for us, like speaks
for the majority of Americans. And by that I don't
mean black, white, whatever, I mean poor people. And that's
(25:38):
it's class. It is rich versus poor, and it's very clear,
and that's what we need to fight at that level.
We need someone that's gonna fight for poor people every day,
and it's not a business person because they don't want
to be poor. So it's got to and to me.
And I know his fans aren't great, but the only
person that's been doing his whole life and said it
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and lived it is Bernie Sanders. I thought you're gonna
say Kanye, but that's what I want Kanye to be
his vice president scare people, not well, we can't kill him.
Then Kanye has been charged. Um yeah, now that's that's
all definitely true, like having having a billionaire I don't know.
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And you're talking about the pendulum swing too. Here's the thing.
In a capitalist society like this, we've swung all the
way to the right. We need some socialism to correctly.
We don't need communism, but we need some socialism. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
because that there are no policies coming out of this
White House to advocate for working poor or people who
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are struggling at all. And that's true, like when you
have if it's rich verse poor, because we clearly are.
That's what America is right now. It's rich and poor.
There's barely a middle, and you have rich people at
the helm constantly. Then there. I mean, no wonder the
situation is only getting better for them and worse for
the other party. So it's I think it's pretty simple logic.
You're you're presenting here, Billy and I agree and advocate conversations.
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It's a very that's what we need to focus on, right,
It's like funk who should be present? Like what about
all like you know, their schools in Baltimore that don't
have heat and the kids are wearring like mittens in
their classes. They don't have electricity. You're you're absolutely right,
So yeah, but I mean back to the golden clothes,
Who were it best? Who wore it best? It'll have
to be me. I just want to add a couple
(27:32):
of things, a couple of observations. Thank you so much,
Thank you so much. Kid Harrington from Game of Thrones,
John Snow, this man is so short that has scared me.
I could not. I thought I was walking up on
a dude who was trying to look like Kid Harrington
from behind. I was like, the short as Kid Harrington
(27:52):
want to be, and then he turned around like Kid Harrington.
He is a little man's five five five five six.
Maybe we're just whispered, Yeah, he's just but yo, that
head of hair. My god, if somebody who's losing their hair,
and my you look at this man's fucking head of hair.
It's like luxury. And I'm telling you, when you are
(28:15):
lacking in the falc little hair department and you look
at somebody with beautiful hair like that, it's like looking
at the ring of power. Like I was like, it
was like calling you, like, I haven't noticed that. That's funny,
you said, I've been noticing Indian women lately because their
hair is amazing. It's like thick and just like wow,
that's great. Yeah, it's like yeah, it's like being poor,
(28:35):
but with hair. You know what I mean. It's like
it's like, wow, that persons hair writ ever noticed that?
That is awesome? I am hair homeless, and I see that,
I'm like, goddamn, like something crazy with their hair, Like yeah,
have fun with it, have fun with it. Yeah, because
I got one look it's called shave it off. Just
don't make me look crazy. But yeah again, and then
(28:56):
you know again, it was a very interesting show because
everyone is wearing black, Like the me Too movement was
was there in full effect. I forget who brought um.
Oh no, Michelle Williams brought Toronto Burke, who is the
actual woman who's who is credited with starting the me
to campaign. UM. And it was interesting, like there was
a lot of times up pins being worn by men.
(29:19):
Some were like I overheard the most BROI agent conversation
at a bar, like from behind me, like, dude TJ.
Like the guy literally said those words. Dude t J
from work screened it across the bar and I look.
Another guy from a cross room throws his hands up,
like what kind of thing? And they come over like, bro,
we're getting fucking wild tonight. And he's like, yeah, we're
(29:40):
getting dude, it's gonna be fucking crazy. You know how
we do every year, dude, blah blah blah. And I
turned around they all got times up pins and I'm like, wow,
you're gonna respect the ship at Yeah. I was just
like wow, like this it's it's funny because like it
was like the hottest accessory. And I'm glad, you know,
because it's good to see celebrities use their platform a
(30:00):
bit more to actually to speak up on these kinds
of issues. UM. But at the end of the day, right,
like the red carpet is. I was reading this article
of this article in The New Republic that was kind
of talking about how the red carpet is. Basically, it's
hard to make a statement on the red carpet because
the red carpet is not a place for speech. It's
a place to like as they put, it's a space
(30:22):
for visual merchandising, right, like like who looks good, who doesn't? What?
Blah blah blah. And it's true, like, yeah, it's hard
to really get a point across in that way. But
you know, shout out to them for for bringing the
a lot of these activists on. But another thing that
kind of struck me as odd is like like the
hottest successory for a lot of these white actresses was
like a woman of color activists, Like and I was like,
(30:43):
but I see what you're doing. I like it visually,
it's it's a it's a little interesting, it's a little
but I'm glad that we are. You know that at
least there's starting to be a shift. And I don't
know if you guys saw Seth Meyer's opening, Yeah, but
when he started doing jokes about Harvey Wins seen in
Kevin Spacey the room got real like it was triggering,
(31:04):
you know, because I don't know, I get you gotta
do joke triggering or some guilt and I don't know
that's the thing, and like, but the joke were just
like the jokes felt like unnecessary in the sense of
like bringing up like just by saying Harvey Weinstein's name,
like you know, Ashley Judd was there, and like at
the awards, like there are people in that room who
like have probably had fucked up people who might not
(31:27):
even be published. Most people in that room have had
their own experiences with that, right, and it's too involved
with everything, right exactly. And someone tweeted an Oprah picture today,
I said, and it's a picture of her giving kiss
on the cheek. Oh yeah, And it was like the
(31:48):
first one of the first things I saw this more
And I was like, that's pretty funny when you when
you say that you've seen Oprah unscripted and she's not
that great or are you referring to anything in particular,
Just like, Okay, do you remember when Tom Cruise jumped
on that thing? She wasn't great in that moment, right,
And not that anyone would be great, but I mean
if your job is every day to be on that thing.
(32:12):
It just to me, it's like with Letterman, if if
she went awry, that's when it got really funny, right,
But with her, it was like it was just very
aware things are in control, and if they're not, it
ceases to do you know what I mean? Interesting? And
I have seen behind the scenes things and interviews with
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her where it seems you just get the impression, Okay,
she left Earth a long time ago. She's been in
her bubble of oprah nous and like, yeah, her name
is one word, right, and there's not anything that she
can necessarily do because she's running a business that is
(32:53):
about oprah nous. But like when you see stuff behind
the scenes, and yeah, just the way she kind of
talk sometimes that it does raise the question of how
in touch with reality she is. But then there's a
question of how in touch with reality do we need
the president to be? Very Yeah, I think Barack Obama
was a great example someone with their foot firmly planet
(33:17):
on the right, and he was a community organizing. And
if we can go back to the Fire and Fury book,
there was a there's a brief little paragraph between Ails
and Bannon with a mentioned Obama and they talked about
how foreign he was. No one in the business world
knew him, No one in this place knew him. I
(33:39):
just found that fascinating and it to me, it opened
my eyes. I was like, Oh, that's why the Republicans
stopped everything he tried to do because they didn't know
what he was really trying to do, so that he
scared the living ship out of all those people out
like industry because they didn't know who he was. And
then it was an eye opening I was like Hillary,
(34:00):
they all know Hillary where she's at? Right? Um, back
to the important stuff, the golden globes. Um. I have
seen the reaction of Okay, Hollywood is being a little
bit self congratulatory for having just been outed as the
(34:21):
work Hollywood is being a little self right. Um. Super
producer Anna Hosnier came in and this morning and said
she was a little bit over the whole Hollywood jerking
itself off thing, uh and illustrated with uh really vivid
visual pantomimes that were quite frankly working appropriate. But I
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don't know it so we have no record in this climate. Um,
but I I don't know. It did seem like there
was a mixture of we're addressing this problem and look
how amazing I am. For look, I'm just in timber Lake.
I've got a uh times up pin on and like
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hashtag this is why we protest or this is why
we stand up. But then like he is there because
he was in a woody and uh, you know, I
don't there there were people wearing times up pins who
have there There are people who are both openly have
some issues in their past and people who, you know,
(35:27):
just being out here and talking to a lot of
people in the industry are probably the movement is coming
for at some point who were up on stage wearing
times Up pins. Uh So we're not gonna say specific
names because nobody has made specific allegations about these people yet,
but just you know, keep an eye out for people
(35:49):
who are up there on stage rocking the times up
pin who might have problematic stuff. All of Hollywood has
a is problematic right because I'm not ah taken away
from the women's issue here, but Hollywood is a weird
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one to come after because this whole town is based
around fucking. If we're being honest about it, there's a
sexual thing to this whole town. They're selling this whole
town is selling sex. So the whole thing is weird,
right that the conversation is it's just weird. So I
don't know what. Yeah, I mean, it's just like and
(36:31):
it's an industry based on like selling illusion too, and
it's like yeah, there's it's all intrigue and you don't
know what's what and and it's not a normal they're
not normal job. It's just the whole thing is not
It's like, it's an interesting time to watch people try
to regulate an industry that's they've been trying to regulate
(36:52):
for hundreds of years and they can't really because it's
like a wait, hundreds of years. I think they've been
trying to like since wait, what are we talking about?
The film industry? Not hundreds but I mean if i'd
be like, yo, wait, what do you know about? Yeah? Oh,
you guys have never seen this ancient Yeah. I got
(37:14):
in back to a party in the hills one time.
It was they showed me tapes. I was the only
one not wearing a mask. Um all right, uh yeah
see I just brought up a problem where there's no solution.
It's just like that's this the whole problem is this
town is based on well, it's like a bunch of
unchecked egos. It's power, it's it's it's a deception. It's crazy. Yeah,
(37:38):
Like how do you regulate a fucking madhouse in that way? Like,
people's motivations aren't the same. Some people are here just
to sell one person in their hometown can eat it,
you know what I mean, right, right, And then other
people came here so they could get power and get laid.
And then other people are like actual actors who just
(37:59):
want to act. Yeah, people like to be an artist
because yeah, I have to make money doing that, and
this is one of a few players you can do that, right. Yeah.
So I mean hopefully addressing some of this stuff is
going to move in a direction to make it easier
to weed the talent out from the and the people
who are interested in art out from yeah, you know,
(38:20):
the people who are here to just Yeah. I mean,
despite like my own misgivings about some of like the
you know, activists kind of stuff, I think it is
good now now that it is just commonplace to begin
calling out the like these kinds of things like sexual
abuse or harassment or uh like wage inequality, or lack
of representation between like people of color and things like that.
(38:44):
I think it's good now that that those are things
you can just blatantly just you say them out loud
now and it's not like a hot take. It's like, yeah,
we're gonna we just need to be in just put
it all out there, put it all out there. So
hopefully it's not just a fucking moment, you know what
I mean. And that's that's the one thing is that
that's why everybody's like, that's great and all to where
the pins and where black is like, but until you
start putting like women in positions of power and hiring
(39:06):
more women of color, hiring more women to direct, I mean,
like the director was there. I don't think there was
one win director, right. Nataliemportmans specifically said it was like
right after the Oprah speech and she was like, fuck it,
we're gonna, yeah, we're gonna say and now here are
the nominees for the here the all male nominees for
Best Ye. And it's good because it makes it makes
(39:28):
people like this, but you need that discomfort to begin
to open your eyes a bit. So let's hope that
this moment is a movement. Right, all right, we're gonna
take a quick break. We'll be right and we're back. Uh.
(39:49):
So we have two stories still left to talk about
on our spreadsheet. We have the fact that two hundred
thousand uh people from El Salvador are losing their protected
status today. Uh. They were given protected status after devastating
earthquakes in their home country UH made it basically uninhabitable.
(40:16):
It has one of the highest murder rates now of
any country in the world. And today the Trump administration
announced that they were choosing this time to basically lift
the protected status and kick all of these people out
(40:38):
of the country, which is Sarah and El Salvador. Like,
I think even people in El salva are saying, the
country is not prepared for the return of two hundred
thousand people. It's already it's not even good for the
residents that are there now. It's just in shambles and people.
And like his whole obsession with M. S thirt team,
(40:58):
which he saw on a Fox thing when track that
back down where when he started talking about MS thirt
was from some Fox segment. What he doesn't understand is,
like people think it started Nel Salvador started here because
of what we did, they can. It's why any gang
starts is to protect your community. So apparently there are
(41:20):
a bunch of Salvadoran people who are helping rebuild America
after these huge super hurricanes that came through um that
they are rounding up and you know, sending back, and
I mean, that's that's a no win no matter what
side you're on, really, right. And then the other story
(41:41):
we have is football, guys. Yeah, thank god, yeah, you've
you've been so bored this whole show. The NFL playoffs
for this weekend, and the college football Championship is tonight,
and that's a game now that actually determines who the
(42:02):
winner is, because the last time I paid attention to
college football, it was like a bunch of fucking algorithms
that said, oh no, this team is the best one.
It still is, but they break it down to four
instead to now and then the four? Do people like that,
what's the best way to have one of the four?
They love it right right, right right, but it's what
(42:22):
do you mean, what's the best play? I mean, like
it would it the best way to just have like
a like a march madness type of thing where like
people go into like an actual playoff tournament and the players, right,
I mean I was a college player and they were like,
let's add some more games, and I was going to
and I wanted to go to the league and like
go funk yourself, right, I mean, I got recruited play
(42:45):
college football and I got Uh. I was interested until
I went to some and saw them practice and then
their games, and I was like, oh, they hit hard
every time. No, right, right, right now, these are the
best guys from high school and they're all all on
the same team. Oh that trying to kill you in
practice every day for fun. The NFL player who retired
(43:07):
after I think his rookie season, I forget his name
now because he was just worried about you know, CTE
was on I think the Bill Simmons podcast fairly recently
and talking about how uh that's one of the main
things that he once changed, is just people like beat
(43:28):
the ship out of each other and like destroy each
other's brains in practice, right, because we only see what
happens on game day, Like imagine the dark, like fucked
up injuries that are I mean, when I was in
high school, the reason I went to play baseball and
college and not football was the way I looked at
it was like, okay, at two fifteen during the fall,
I would look and be like, oh, no practice football
(43:49):
practice right, and in baseball but like hurry up. Baseball
practice is fun, Like, oh, I want to go do that? Yeah,
not like school sanctioned violence. Yeah. And I was like,
I don't want to professional sports? Which one do? I
want to go baseball? Yeah, because I can play for
fifteen years if I'm good or not. Yeah. And you
can basically be overweight and still a professional exactly the
(44:10):
most American ship can see. If you've got good handout
co ordination, it doesn't matter how big you are in
that mid six exactly. David Wells like let himself go
at the peak of his career. It made him better.
Yeah he was, he says, drunk when he pitched a
perfect game from the night before. Uh yeah, he's like hungover,
(44:31):
hungover drunk. My favorite John Kruk quote is that the
ladies like, you're not an athlete. Hell now I'm not
an athlete, lady, I'm a baseball player. Um but anyways,
I mean, I mean, I don't hate the playoff. I
like it better than when it was just you know,
they decided, Okay, this game is for the championship and
it's between maybe the one and two team. I like
(44:54):
that there's a four team playoffs. I wouldn't mind them
moving it up a little bit so that you know,
you had one less regular season game and it was
eight teams playing each other, so that you know they're
some of these teams like Central Florida or something like
that like got in like a couple of wild cards
like that, and then whoever wins the major conferences and
(45:17):
just add a couple more games and then then it
would have some of the feel of you know, March Madness,
which is I think the gold standard of you know,
college sport playoff or just any sort of playoff because
it's single elimination and you've got these huge, you know,
juggernaut franchises of like North Carolina and Duke going up
(45:39):
against you know, small schools. George Mason's yeah, um, so
different sports though different sports, that's for sufferent. How many
times has Alabama been the championship recently? Like, aren't they
don't They spend the most out of everybody in the
NUBLE or like nearly the most far. I mean they
also make the most the most I've seen, the funniest
(46:02):
place I've ever seen. I grew up in the SEC.
I grew up forty other menus from Knoxhill, Tennessee, Neeland stadiums.
You know, I didn't go to Tennessee, but I love
Tennessee football, you know what I mean. But Tuscaloos is
something different. You go down there is a tiny town,
like I'll go. I went this summer. I was rolling
through and I did stand up and it's empty. But
(46:24):
then I drive to the middle of town and that's
where the stadium is. So the whole town is built
around the stadium. Even the university is built around everything
about that town the nucleus. And not even like in
metaphor an aerial view, which the way they've done it,
everybody looks. I mean, we went and there's a Starbucks
(46:47):
across the street from the stadium, and we went in there.
All the women looking like, all the dudes look like
I mean, it is a cult. A lot of under armour,
camel hoodies. It is what you think, exactly think it
would be right in all year round. It is crazy.
It's crazy. And then people are like, well, how can
(47:07):
all these crazy politics happen because people don't care, right right, right,
right right, they don't care, and that's the stadium is
the most important. Um, so I was wrong. University of
Alabama is only the sixth most valuable college football team.
Their current value is ninety three million dollars just because
(47:28):
people in all of them are poor. Probably that's it, right,
And they as a team, they have certain advantages. Like
Nick Saban started hiring all these analysts. So you're only
allowed to have a total of nine coaches on your bench,
but he would have like thirty like analysts who were
(47:48):
actually former head coaches in college football, like huge franchises.
It's like he has a consultant, a hedge fund up
in like behind him, up in the coach's box, just
like feeding him and for me, and so like nothing
is left up to chance. Um and Billy, weren't you
saying that your dad? Oh yeah, my dad's met My
dad's a high school football coach. Um. So he goes
(48:10):
to these coaching clinics. He went down the Alabama and
he was like, Saban walks in and there's not a
hair out of place. Everything is just just everything has
its place and it is order everything is order, and
then he was like the next day Rex Ryan walked in,
He's like cut off sweats on, He's like a catchup
on his cheek. He's just saying for no reason. He's like,
(48:31):
he's like, say, football is a totally different game, Like
two very successful coaches, two totally different styles. He's like
during he's like, Saban knew the answer to every question.
He's like during the Rex Ryan, they asked him about
like what this lineman does, and Rex Ryan's like, I
don't know. As the fucking line coach, I'm the head coach.
So tonight it's Alabama versus Georgia. Georgia. I think everybody
(48:55):
who's not part of that cult is part of that cult.
Down on Tuscaloosa, he said, is probably rooting for Georgia
just because Alabama has become the Yankees of college football,
and so you kind of want to see the underdog.
And I think Trump's going down there too, right, He'll
be there. Yeah, And he's a big college football man.
(49:16):
He's a big Actually that isn't it Like the first
time they've had a halftime performance like out of college football.
It's crazy that he's not performing at the super Bowl,
But I think this is all in Well, it's Alabama
versus Georgia, so I think like they might be receptive
to it down in Georgia, Right, that's my theory. But Atlanta, right, No,
(49:37):
and their stadium is fucking insane. That I that, like,
whatever the technological term is for that thing, it is dope.
And I totally failed to describe it like sort of
looks like the aperture of like a camera, Like how
it like the way a camera shutter opens like spreads out,
and that's how they open their ship. It's a retractable roof.
(49:57):
But yeah, but the way it's sort of like opens
up is very poetic. It's visual poetry, poetry. And the
way the guys you can't see this, but the way
Billy is doing it with his hands is exactly what
it does. That's amazing. Uh. And the NFL playoffs were
this weekend. Uh, did you guys watch it? I watched
the Rams just because I was like, oh, cool, like
(50:20):
a l A team, and then I was like no,
and then I turned it off pretty quickly. The games
everybody said we're gonna be bad, We're good, and the
games that everybody said we're going to be good. We're bad.
But I was, for some reason bored enough to be
watching the Titans game. Titans, who are they playing Chiefs?
Chiefs Tennessee Titans versus the Canada destroyed? They are going
(50:43):
to get destroyed. But that was a great game. Yeah,
So next week the game's probably get worse because you
have teams like Tennessee going up against the Patriots. But
there was a quarterback, Marcus Mariotta from Oregon is like
quarterback for the Tennessee Titans, and he was a lot
of fun to watch in that game. Stat that he
(51:04):
threw himself a pass through himself a pass through. He
threw a pass that got batted up and he caught
it and ran it in for a touchdown. It's pretty dope, yeah,
because someone was just showing me on their phone. They're like,
you know, look at this stat and I was like,
Mary had a throw to himself for a touchdown. That
makes sense. And once again the Buffalo Bills UH coach
brought in a white backup quarterback when it counted and
(51:28):
the guy through an interception. Now, granted, Tyrod Taylor did
not have a good day, but on the final driver,
maybe the last couple of drives. I only saw the
final drive. He brought in a a backup quarterback. This
is this is the team where the Buffalo coach, after
Tyrod Taylor had had like an okay beginning to the season,
(51:49):
he benched him in favor of this young quarterback who,
uh you know, like more fit the profile of what
an NFL pocket passer's supposed to be. And he threw
like seven interceptions in his first game. It was it
was like some sort of record. Uh So, once again
at the end of the game, they're down by a
(52:09):
touchdown and he brings in I don't know, it couldn't
have been the same backup quarterback because I think that
guy just quit football. But the guy had a bad
had a bad series. Once again. Hey, NFL sounds cool though, Yeah,
so much sounds bowl man, And I'm just there for
(52:31):
the commercials there It is all right, that's gonna do
it for today. Billy Wayne, Thank you for having it.
Thank you so much for coming on. We love having
you on. Where can people follow you at, Billy Wayne?
If you google Billy Wayne Davis, all that stuff comes up.
Are you the only Billy Wayne Davis? No, there's a
dude in Australia, and then there's a dude in Arkansas.
They're pretty cool, um, just normal dudes. And then there's
(52:52):
like a of course, there's like a like some inspirational
church person named Billy Wayne. So do people ever confu
use you with him? Okay, yeah, right one, they have it.
They realized their lives. This isn't the same guy, Miles.
Where can people follow you? You can follow me, I
guess on Twitter or Instagram. Up to you at Miles
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(53:34):
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(54:18):
unlike you know who Blake Lively making reference to. Uh,
you know the fact that I think Ryan Roylands can
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I don't know why you had to be hurtful, Mark,
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