QA-gone, PREPLANNED Vacay 7.23.20

In episode 678, Jack and Miles are joined by the Forgotten: Women of Juárez's co-host Mónica Ortiz Uribe to discuss the Republicans lack of a Covid-19 bill, Twitter banning QAnon, Trump sending Ghislaine Maxwell his best wishes, Tucker Carlson's many issues, and more!

FOOTNOTES:

1. 'What in the hell are we doing?' Senate Republicans clash over coronavirus relief
2. The Hill's Morning Report - Presented by Facebook - Dems to GOP: Where is your COVID-19 bill?
3. Twitter Is Finally Going After QAnon
4. Trump says he wishes accused sex trafficker Ghislaine Maxwell well and has 'met her numerous times'
5. Tucker Carlson's top writer resigns after secretly posting racist and sexist remarks in online forum
6. Tucker Carlson Attacks “Ghouls” Over Fired Fox News Writer Blake Neff’s “Wrong” Racist Online Posts, Announces Vacation
7. Tucker Carlson to Take ‘Long-Planned’ Vacation After Writer’s Resignation
8. Tucker’s Got Real Scandals, So He Keeps Inventing Imaginary Enemies
9. Fox News, Ed Henry, Sean Hannity & Tucker Carlson Sued In Sex Trafficking, Sexual Harassment & Retaliation Suit
10. Tucker Carlson claimed the New York Times planned to expose his address. Then his fans doxed the reporter.
11. WATCH: Daringer - Gold 97s

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season one, three, Episode
four of jar Days Eidgeist, a production of I Heart Radio.
This is a podcast where we take a deep dive
into America's shared consciousness and say, officially, off the top Funck,
the Koch Brothers, fuck Fox News, fun Rush Funck, Ben

(00:24):
Shapiro and whatever him and Barry Wice and uh Andrew
whatever from that other site are all leaving to go
do together. I'm sure. Uh it's Thursday, July. My name
is Jack O'Brien a k A. There's this guy, oh

(00:45):
Brian and his first names Jack. Oh Brian's name Jack
on the bullovard. That is courtesy of my brain. Uh
just now uh, and I'm thrilled to be joined as
always by my co host Mr Miles c. No, we're
never gonna survive less we stop being babies. All we

(01:10):
gotta do is stay inside. But no, we're stupid babies.
That's one of my favorite parts. Shout out to the
one and only Christie. I'm a Geucie Mane for that
seal inspired a k he dug that one up. He

(01:32):
retweeted it from June Twain night. He's like, I cannot
let this rot on the vine. I mean, because that
is the that is the detail that has kind of
stuck with us. The thing that America cannot get over
is being babies. We we just just refused to Yeah,
you can't tell me what to do, Dad, you can't

(01:53):
tell me what to do. But also I will rely
on everyone else to do everything for me. But I
am not a baby. So well, we are thrilled to
be joined in our third seat by the brilliant and
talented Monica or teaser. Reba Wuen is the allot to everyone. Um,

(02:14):
I'm I'm here in my hometown of El Paso, Texas
on the USA order, where the official language is Spanglish. Yeah,
all right, thank you for coming on. Yeah, we were
talking before we started recording that you don't usually come
on such second rate shows where people are just spouting

(02:34):
off at the mouth. You are a actual journalist, rum
so we don't want it. We aren't going to put
your career or your integrity at risk. I know it's
a risk for you to even be on a second
rate podcast like this, but Oz made it through and
had get time for people who don't know this. You
and Oz host The Forgotten Women of Oarez Forgotten Women
of Oares podcast together. So for those of you who

(02:56):
are like, what's what's are these like smart people coming through? Um?
You know, we know some intelligent people that we'd like
to engage in conversation from time to time. Yeah, I
hope we're not cramping your style coming. We were saying
the other day, Like when Oz was speaking, I was
just like, man, keep going please, Yeah, yeah, post our podcast.

(03:18):
He doesn't absorb quite a bit of It's impressive the
amount of information he he absorbs in his brain and
then is able to talk it out pretty eloquently. Yeah. Well,
you guys are uh making made an amazing show And
we can talk about that a little bit in a moment. First,

(03:38):
let's tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking
about today. The Republican Party has really no plan to
speak of. They're enjoying the infighting. Uh, so we're gonna
talk about that. We're gonna talk about q q is
getting banned from Twitter. But as we know where they

(04:01):
go one they go all sou we'll we'll see they
will all go to slack exactly. Um, but that like
I can't avoid like Q is just everywhere now, Like
I was talking about a doctor who went to medical
school with someone I know who is now like fully

(04:25):
on on the Q train and just posting NonStop about it,
and Tim Hidecker had to like go do an emergency
two hour episode to like defend himself against like Q
accusations because they think he and Will Farrell have like
a child eating ring or something. Anyway, we're gonna talk
about that. We're gonna talk about the president's uh first

(04:48):
Corona briefing, since he told people to inject bleach into
their lungs uh and he made it through mostly unscathed,
except when he said gelay and jis Lane is Ellen
gill Gillan. Yeah, that it was almost a flawless briefing. Yeah,

(05:09):
I mean flawless comparatively, but yeah, but then never, he
never actually not, he never disappoints. He always disappoints. Um.
So we're gonna talk about that. We're gonna talk about
Tucker Carlson, all of that plenty more. But first, Monica,
we like to ask our guests, what is something from
your search history that is revealing about who you are? Well,

(05:33):
it must have been two nights ago that I googled
um mescal old fashioned um, yes, yes, yes this is you.
You think of of of old fashions is dark in color,
made out of bourbon. This was a clear um lovely
um old fashioned that you know, as you mentioned, my
co host and I are doing this podcast and it's

(05:55):
some heavy stuff, so you got to find a way
to take the edge off every day. In fact, I'm
thinking now I should have started off the day with
one of these mess calls. Might might help me loosen
up for this this show. Yeah is that so basically
everything the same, but just I think I've had one.
But rather than like angers like the regular bidders, it
have mole a bidders. I was like taking it to

(06:18):
the next though. But it was I think that was
like a special thing where people were making it themselves
to really honor the drink. I have not even gone
that far. You are a step ahead of me. That's
just me thinking of like back you know, back when
bars and restaurants and patronizing businesses was a regular occurrence.
I heard tell of this mescal old fashioned. Yeah, well

(06:38):
I've got there's a friend of a friend of mine
who is a um tequila distiller. He's got a fabulous
restaurant up in uh in Philly called Tequilas of all
things and uh and he goes and he finds these
old school artisanal um distillers in in Mexico, um in

(06:59):
in Jalisco, in the lowlands and the highlands, which is
where tequila comes from, and he puts out these fantastic
misscals and tequilas. So I'm a big fan. His name
is David Sudo. Shout out to David Tequilas. And so
when when the pandemic began, I made sure that I

(07:19):
was well stocked with David Sudo goods in my Okay,
So is that your main is that your main beverage
of choice you like like a mescal cocktail or tequila drink? Absolutely? Absolutely,
although you know with the finer messcals and tequila's um,
they really ought to be sipped clean, not shot as
you see, You're not down like concoon spring breakers. No no,

(07:43):
no no no. You take this in a in a
little sifter glass and you just sip on it slowly
and you enjoy the very complex and smooth flavors that
come with that that are supposed to come with a tequila,
a good tequila. So I'm always sad when people when
I all for people tequila and they kind of wentz
because they had a bad experience back in college when

(08:05):
you know it shouldn't be that way. With tequila, it's
it's like the same thing. I mean, I don't want
to compare the two, but like psychedelic drugs, most people
like I can't do that, man, because most of the
time you went too far with it, or like with
tequila mescal, you're drinking it too fast and too intensely.
Take it slow, take it easy, and you know, go
let it take you where it needs to. Because I
think that was when I really got into it, is

(08:26):
when someone scolded me for like even drinking on ice
and I was like, oh, but I'm sitting there like
no, no no, no, like you have to enjoy, like this
is a real spirit, like you need to enjoy. And
then when I was I learned, I was like, Okay,
I now I respect them. When it comes to your
drug of choice, no where it comes from, knowing where
it comes from, and get the high quality stuff. Yeah,

(08:47):
that's just good advice in general. What is what something
you think is underrated? Underrated? Well, you know, um again,
trying to to start with the lighter stuff. I'm I
prefer to to start off with what's overrated things? Right, Yeah? Yeah,
so you know something that I think is overrated. Maybe
this is a little controversial, right, but I would say

(09:11):
sharing a bed with your spouse on a nightly basis.
Like when you say something like that, automatically your thought
is like, uh, you know, what's what's wrong? What's going
on there? You guys doing yes, yes, yes, I say,
I say no, no, no, no, no. Totally on the contrary, um,

(09:34):
you know, having your own space, um, and being able
to say, look, I'm more, I love you very much,
but I also need really need a good night's sleep,
and you know, I'm going to take it as you know,
maybe one of you is a night owl and the
other one is a morning person. Or maybe one of
you wakes up in the middle of the night and
has some brilliant idea has to turn on the lights
and you know, jot it down. Yeah. I keep waiting

(10:00):
for that to happen, like that's only a movie's monica. Yeah,
it's yet to happen to me. Um, but uh but
but yeah, no, I think it's it's and this this
is something I want to talk to talk about a
little hopefully in the show. Is these gender roles that
that that we that we play and how we can
um redefine them. And you know, it's nice to have

(10:21):
on a daily basis your own you know, I'm going
to take a step further and not just say, you know,
you should have your own bed, but you should have
your own bedroom if you know, if you can, if
you're not living in New York or San Francisco where
you can barely afford a student you right, yeah, you
have your own. It's you know, it's about having your
own space, having some independence. Um and uh and and yeah,

(10:44):
I think that strengthens you as a person, and it
strengthens you as a in a relationship, and you have
a better night's sleep. And that doesn't mean you can't
like have sleepovers and visit in such so it makes
it a lot more fun. Yeah, yeah, that's the bed.
I totally understand because, uh, you know, my partner, her majesty,
she likes to have pets in the bed, and I'm

(11:05):
like a I don't like to inconvenience people. So I
sleep very like in a very thin sliver of the
bed because I don't want to wake her up. Then
I'm like, I don't want to. I don't want to
wake my pets up. I don't know why I'm going there.
That's how you're going to say that you sleep in
the dog crate. I'm working on my great training right now.

(11:26):
But yeah, Like so from that point I realized too,
I'm like, you know what, I'm gonna sleep somewhere else
because that way, like you can get down and I
don't have to feel bad about not disturbing anyone and
get my own night's sleep, because I think everyone has
different sleep styles. I sleep next to a sprawler and
I'm very much like the it's just so weird. Like

(11:46):
I don't advocate from my my own sleep when I'm
in bed because I'm like, but the other person sleep,
and then you gotta you gotta take care of yourself,
even that means getting away in bed for a little bit.
A good night's sleep is crucial. It'll make everybody happier.
I say, give it, give it a try, Give it
a try. My two year old was up at two

(12:07):
in the morning until four in the morning this morning,
so I did not get a good night's sleep, and
I have witnessed my brain malfunctioning, like I'll see the
wrong word coming out of my mouth as I'm as
I'm speaking, So I yeah, just a fair word of
warning there, um that I'm about to show you the

(12:31):
value of a good night's sleep. And the playing musical
beds is also also an option, especially when you've got kids.
What is something you think is underrated? Okay, something I
think is underrated? Are immigrants, Um, coming from the US
Mexico border we have. I mean, um, you know almost

(12:55):
everyone here has close ties to their immigrant, to their
immigrant roots. And I mean immigrants often play the role
as scapegoats for all the problems. You know, pick a
problem and it's you know, an immigrant has been scapegoaded
for that problem. When you know, in reality, um, these
they they they are among the essential workers who who

(13:19):
are who the foundation of our society is built on.
I mean they're picking our They're picking our crops, our food,
They're slaughtering and packaging our meat. They're making our hotel beds,
washing our dishes. Their doctors, nurses, entrepreneurs. I mean the
guy who invented flaming hot Cheetos started off as a janitor.

(13:41):
I think at Friedo Lay and Um, and then and
and now he's this this this big shot executive in
the in the company, and he's the son of Mexican immigrants.
And there's so many other, um examples. I mean, Albert
Einstein was a was an immigrant. Yeah. Isn't there going
to be a hot Cheeto? Isn't there a like a
movie about him coming out? Yes? Yes, yes, yeah. I

(14:02):
don't know. I don't know what's the status of it,
but right it's like Gloria, I feel like was it
was going to direct because we talked about it on
the show, and I think that was when we first
or I had first understood the origin of hot Cheetos. Yeah,
he like was a tinkerer and he had like a
shed in the back. Like all these things that are
you know, straight out of a movie. Are like, is

(14:25):
like the the origin story of flaming hot Cheetos? Yeah,
he's the classic rags to riches. Yeah story. So I'm
not sure he's making a movie. I'm curious, like with
your perspective being in Texas and understanding like Mexican American
culture from the Texan point of view. You know, I
think a lot of times, especially right now, we see

(14:46):
a lot of minorities being deployed as tokens to try
and like buttress the Republican or conservative viewpoint, like, look
at these people that are here that support us. And
I'm curious, like every community, whether that's know, I'm black
and Asian, where I see black people at rallies and
Asian people, there's obviously levels of internalized racism and white

(15:06):
supremacy that people deal with. And is there is like
what sort of the makeup in terms of how a
lot of Mexican Americans and Texas sort of look at
like what it means to be American and how that
plays into conservative politics, etcetera. Well, it's a it's it's
a sticky situation. It's a messy situation in that um

(15:28):
even as um, Hispanics, Mexican Americans, UM, our opinions will
run the gamut and it and and there is absolutely racism, um,
you know among amongst us. Um. There are things that
my grandfather has told me that I will not repeat, um,
but that that really blew me away to think, how

(15:49):
can you come from a marginalized community yourself and and
then and then speak this way of others? Um. You know,
a lot of the border patrol agents. UM. A majority
there there's a there's a large majority who are Hispanic UM.
And I think it just happens to be that once
once you hit multiple general once you get multiple generations
away from the original UM immigrants, UM, you start to

(16:14):
feel comfortable and entitled, and you forget your your roots
and you maybe turn against the UM, turn against them.
I have relatives UM who vote conservatively, who who voted
for UM, who voted for Donald Trump UM, and I
have others who wouldn't dream of that right once the Gamut. Yeah,

(16:34):
I think it's essentially that it's the same experience no
matter what, for any person coming from this country from
another place that yet there's this first, you know, deep
desire to integrate and to be accepted. And then at
a certain point, yeah, things can get away from you.
And whether or not you're able to sort of see
where your roots are and the path you've taken and

(16:55):
how that relates to other people, Uh, you know, I think, yeah,
it definitely varies. And one of the things that that
hurts the most coming from UM, you know, having having
roots in another country is that often UM, your your
culture and your traditions and especially your foods are um,
are welcomed and embraced, but you yourself are not um.

(17:17):
And that that's that's one. That's one among many hypocrisy,
is that that that we experience and in the United States, Okay,
and one. And because you know, we've had people who
come on and they they stand firmly behind the cuisine
of tex mex don't even get me started on that. Well,
I gotta get you. You got to go because I

(17:41):
love food. I love Mexican food, and I love people
who are passionate about food, like their regional food. So
just tell me, tell me why it's the bits better
than what I'm eating? Wait? Wait, why why? What is
better than what you I'm just saying, okay, because sometimes
I've we've had guests come on from Texas and they say,
I love I love the food in l A, but
I'm sorry in Texas that Mexican food is better. Now

(18:04):
understand it's different. You can't really one to one compare,
but I guess for you personally, just open my eyes
because I'm so bored stuck in my house, I just
want to envision the text Mexican mouth water in Mexican food. Well,
I have to say, there is a huge difference between
text Mex, which I absolutely wins that makes me shiver,
with a couple exceptions, so p p s and Fajita's

(18:26):
being probably the two exceptions those are Text Mex. But
but but typically I abhor I do dislike strongly. Um
Text Mex food. You have this. They have this yellow
white cheese blend that I just I do not comprehend.
It's one of my four main food groups. Cut it out,

(18:49):
cut it out. There's better stuff out there. I put
it on my cereal in the morning. What's like the if?
So if I go to El Paso, like, what what
am I? What do I need to eat? Oh? Well,
you gotta go um into the UM on Texas Avenue, UM,
pretty not too far from the border. There's a place

(19:09):
called Cafe ma yepan Um which just reopened since the pandemic.
So I'm very excited to go get take out and
get my requisite um fric Refrito's refried beans and five A. Um.
They make the best five A They make great in chiladas.
You know, it really depends and and it's all it's this.

(19:30):
It's it's run by a woman's co op. Um. You know,
a while back, a lot of women who were working
in uh in uh UM almost in fabric UM UH
in the fabric industry in Texas. Yes, yes they were UM.
They worked in textile UH factories. They lost their job

(19:51):
after NAFTA UM, and so they they formed this women's
collective UM that still exists today. And you know they
used to have ops and such UM, but the longest
surviving UM component of this co op is this restaurant UM.
And then it's it's like going into your grandma's kitchen.
It's fantastic. I would steer you there. I'm like starting

(20:14):
to do this thing where I watch YouTube videos of
like people cooking in other countries and they eat like
my like noodles or something just kind of exciting. It's
like a VR experience where right I should I would
not be doing my digital diligence if I didn't mention
Elmy in downtown El Paso, which is making They have

(20:37):
the most unique UM Mexican food in El Paso in
that it's more like central and Southern Mexican food, the
kinds of tacos that they have. UM. They were featured
on UM on this UH Hulu show Taste the Nation.
I think it's called They're featured in one of the episodes,
so you should check them out there. And they also

(20:57):
carry David SUDO's tequila, so you can't go home. Yeah,
there you go. Once once we get a once we
get a vaccine, come on down to El Paso and
I'll give you the premo tours. Nothing more. Uh. Finally,
what is a myth? What's something people think is true
you know, to be false or vice versa. Okay, Um, well,

(21:20):
a myth that I would bust is happily is that
machismore only exists in Mexico or in Latin America. Byes,
machismo exists everywhere, including in the United States. Um. And
the sooner we recognize it, um, you know, the sooner
we can we can work against it. How would you

(21:41):
define machismo for people who don't aren't familiar with the term,
because I look at it just like a very like
this form of masculinity that ends up causing problems. Correct, yes, yes, no, no, no,
masculinity exactly exactly. It's a form of masculinity, of expressing
masculinity that that Dennick rates and hurts uh women, and

(22:03):
that is based on just this this unrealistic, unrealistic expectation
of of just toughness and um separation from one's emotions.
And uh, I could go on and on but um,
but you know, you just have to sit through I mean,
just the a couple of Supreme Court hearings, UM to
understand it it exists or not not not hearings. Um.

(22:29):
This is this is where I forget the the English words,
but the confirmation confirmation. Yeah, when I reached adulthood, I
had to like realize that I had been so steeped
in toxic masculinity that there was like I did not
give myself permission to even feel things like without without

(22:51):
getting drunk. Like I had to like be just completely
separate from my emotions because you know, that's and it's
terrefully it does a disservice to to men because when
you're hitting every an me. Yeah, yeah, when you're hit,
when you're hit with some kind of tragedy or grief,
you don't know how to handle it. And if you
don't know how to process your emotions, they're gonna end
up destroying you. They're going to have a very destructive

(23:14):
um outcome. And I want to say, um, Jack that
I don't know if yeah, it's probably you jack. Um.
I didn't hadn't done my due diligence researching your show
yet when um um, when your producer said, oh, there
was some schedule reshuffling right because because of childcare, and
like she was telling me how our host needs to

(23:34):
needs to get some get some childcare, and uh, and
I thought, I my my thought immediately that the host
is female. I thought that was my first thought. And so,
you know, just to just to you know, even machismo
doesn't have to come from from a from a from
a man. It's just these these presuppositions that we have
that we need to break out of. Yeah, it seems like,

(23:58):
you know, like is that softening a bit like outside
of the US in your opinion? I think like as
generations move on and progress, is that fading or is
it still kind of very because I know, like very
much there are people and like I have friends who
are very conscious of how they're trying to raise their
kids to sort of not be in this gender normative

(24:18):
construct of how to be or what you can do
or say or where or whatever and just be like
you'll just live. But I know that's a very that's
one part of the spectrum. I'm curious what that is
like because I know you're looking at you like this
is a problem, and many people say it's a problem.
But how is that evolution happening? I think it ebbs
and flows no matter where you are. UM. Any time
that UM and this is anytime any group of any

(24:41):
group pushes for change, whether it's workers or women. UM.
Anytime that there's a push for change to alter the power, UM,
the existing power structure, there's gonna be some pushback and
some backlash UM and UH. And that happens to women, UM,
you know, no matter where they are, including in the

(25:02):
in the US. UM. And it's certainly you can see
it in Mexico. And I was having this this very
conversation UM just yesterday with a professor at you see
Santa Barbara. Her name is Alison Brisk, and she brought
this to my to my attention, right that that these
power that a certain power structure exists, UM. You know,

(25:22):
you know, in different in different forms, including between men
and women, and then when one UM you know, tries
to upset that balance, there's there's this backlash, so much anger,
like to the point of Yeah, they're being crimes and
voting for Donald Trump. You know, it's it can justify
just about any horrifying decision, right. You know, we we

(25:45):
elected a man who who I mean who who spoke
on tape about feeling he had the license to um
to assault women because of because of his status. And
this man is our president. Muh all right, well let's
take a quick break and when we come back, we'll
talk about his grand old party. And we're back, um,

(26:20):
and so let's talk about the Republican Party. There, they're
heading into election season with no real clear plan and
on the most the thing that seems to be most
important to everybody, to the voters in our country, they
seem to be kind of split there. There's a lot

(26:42):
of infighting amazingly. Um, it's the it's easy, like the
stuff they have to vote and you think it's yeah,
do what's right by Americans who are struggling to survive
because the pandemic has completely messed everything up because of
their inability to keep people safe. Right the so the

(27:03):
Care's Act was helping Americans out with an additional six
hundred dollars a week on top of their UH states
unemployment benefits. Uh. It also had the unfortunate effect of
revealing how just grossly underpaid most workers are in the country,
because the Republican talking point came out like, well, they

(27:23):
make it more than they were on the job, so
so what are we gonna do. Why should we do?
We're gonna help them to the point where they don't
want to work. I mean it's again, this is yeah, there,
they're clearly so many camps. Like I think for us
on this show right now, we think, yeah, it's a
no brainer that you have to keep extending these benefits

(27:45):
because if you don't, you exacerbate the pandemic by forcing
people into this really morbid decision between their own safety
and having to go out and work and create money
and put food on the table and pay rent. So
the the in fighting is just like it's really really
interesting to see the stuff that even Trump is saying.

(28:07):
Is he says they're thinking about doing a seven about
seventy of the amount, like a reduction, indicating that they're
going to bring it down to only like on seventy
five to two hundred additional dollars a week. Uh, And
he said, you know, the amount would be the same,
but doing in a little bit smaller initial amounts so
that people are going to want to go back to
work as opposed to making so much money that they

(28:28):
really don't have to. I mean, I would hate for
this country for a sentiment to grow in this country
where people's focus is just on making on as much
money as possible and doing as little work as possible, uh,
and allowing others to do that work for you. I'd
hate for something like that to happen. But I think
that's just that's where we're at right now. We're still

(28:48):
under We're still in the period where people are being
covered by the six hundred dollars and the like. I
think it's easy for us to lose sight of you know,
I've been quarantining in my house for like, uh thirteen days,
like not leaving even to like take a walk or anything. Um.

(29:09):
But when I talk to people who are like working
and at churches or working at like food banks, we're
already like at depression levels of like people are waiting
in line overnight to get food handouts and like not
even the food banks aren't don't have enough food for them.

(29:30):
Like we're already there with the six hundred dollars. We're
at a crisis point um, and it's just mind boggling
to me that there's even the thought that they won't
be extending what what is already pretty insufficient for for
keeping people fed and alive. It's just really interesting, even

(29:54):
within the party, all the different takes, Like Rand Paul
is like butting heads with conservatives who want to extend
the benefit in a humane fashion. He's like, well, wow,
it's like, what's the difference between the left and the
right anymore. It's like, you guys are socialists now. And
then you have other people saying like, well, I don't
like it for the budget, although let's be clear you
you didn't if you really cared about the budget. There

(30:14):
was plenty of opportunities to address that with the bills
you've signed into law. But they're like, but you know,
we should. We do have to think about our reelection chances,
and you don't want people to get mad at us.
And the way that there's so many really morbid points
of view when really there are people who are struggling

(30:34):
and they need to be helped, because that's what that's
the whole point of having a government, is it not
this isn't that This is not why we're like to
have this social contract where we're like, yes, please tell
us what to do and you you you protect the
you know, the safety of the people who live here.
But that hasn't been happening for decades now, so I
guess it just continues. You know, the social safety net

(30:57):
in this country has been eroding for at least the
last thirty to forty years. And um And one of
the things I find encouraging, um U that's come out
of the pandemic, which is, you know, it's hard to
find what what's encouraging, but this conversation that we're having
about how about essential workers and what they're being paid?

(31:19):
Um you know it. You know it's bad when Bloomberg
magazine UM publishes a story that with the headline how
the American worker got fleeced and talks about how worker
wages haven't kept paced socialist Zene Bloomberg, correct, Yeah, then

(31:42):
you know things have gotten bad. You and you got
you gotta pay attention, um and and yeah, they're just
talking about how if the minimum wage had kept pace
with with with productivity, it would be like twenty dollars
twenty dollars and twenty five cents an hour and where
and where, No, we're near that. And you know, I
think with CEO pay would be somewhere like in the

(32:04):
forty dollars per hour range too, if you tied it
to the exponential jumps and CEO pay. Yes. Yes, the
gap between the high earners and the and the low
wage earners, um has just also become a chasm. And
I mean and you know again, um, you know, the
going back to immigrants and and their contributions. Um. You know,

(32:27):
it seems like workers, you know, workers when when NAFTA,
When when NAFTA was passed, you know, many American workers is,
certainly in the manufacturing industry, were rightly upset about it
because a lot of those jobs went to Mexico and
indeed in places like watt Is, Uh, what is the
backbone of its economy is manufacturing. And these you know,

(32:49):
all these foreign mainly American factories set up there, and
you know, they make the stuff that goes in our
washing machines, in our laptops, probably in the microphones we're
using to to record this podcast. Um. And those workers, um,
they are earning less than ten dollars a day, get this,
not per hour per today. You know, how do you

(33:10):
survive on that? And here we are painting Mexico as
as the enemy. UM, Whereas I'm more the more I
look into it, the more similarities I see between um,
how workers, how workers are losing out in the US
and how workers are are losing out in Mexico. And
it's like, you know, if they could, they could join forces, UM,

(33:33):
because they are certainly they can see themselves as allies
because they're struggling with the same things. UM. You know,
losing government protection, union protection, for wages that they can't
live on. And there's tremendous violence that we see in Mexico,
mainly I mean due to the to the drug trade.
So one of the things I see in Watts poor
howatas um you know, because of its it suffers because

(33:57):
of its geography so close to the United States. UM.
This is a city that is its purpose really, it's
economy is based on satisfying the demand to to America,
to primary American demands, UM, the demand for cheap goods
and the demand for illegal drugs. And it's created just
this this, uh, this very toxic and dangerous environment in

(34:20):
the city where you know, it explains a lot of
the violence there and why people are vulnerable um to it.
Working these uh, these these low wage jobs leaves them
largely unprotected. So m h, I think about that when
when when I think about, you know, how how is
it possible that unemployment is more, um is worth more

(34:42):
than your actual paycheck? Yeah? Um, that's like all those
things that have been exposed. You know, like I think
many people who with their eyes on any kind of
activist space are interested in any kind of social justice equity.
Have We've been talking about these things for a very
very long time time and now like yeah, to your point,

(35:03):
I guess the this the other side of this sword
of the pandemic that cuts in a way that is
at least maybe making way for progress. Is Yeah, now
more people are kind of like oh yeah, like it
the sentiment that's sort of like, right, if the world
is so bad and dangerous, yet some people have to
continue to work, maybe that should actually pay uh in

(35:27):
in some way that is actually proportionate to how essential
that need is for their labor. But you know, I
think that's where we hope to get more of that
momentum to actually make these things laws, because we can't
count on any of these businesses themselves being like, you
know what, we're just gonna shrink our profit margins to
do right by the worker. Because that's like the anti

(35:47):
antithesis of how businesses are running this country. But that
does seem to be the Supreme Court. Going back to
the Supreme Court, Uh, their point of view seems to
be that businesses have all the rights. Just give them
all all the rights to make the important decisions. And
in the US, uh, And it's not they've been doing

(36:08):
that for I mean, the case study is ongoing and
the data is in front of us. When the corporations
are able to decide what's best for themselves, and I
don't think he's going to well, so the Republicans haven't
even started just going back to them. They haven't even
started talking to the Democrats because they're already you know,
fighting with each other about what they should do. Um.

(36:28):
And the other thing that makes it tough is the
White House is demanding that they strip funding for testing
in this next bill and adding a payroll tax cut,
like it's all okay, so strip the funding so he
can completely obscure how bad the situation is in this
country because in his mind, you know, testing me, well,
then they're gonna know how bad it is. And then
the payroll tax cut is just your run of the mill,

(36:50):
a shout out to the homies in the one percent,
get you a little break on that payroll tax. That's right.
Let's talk about another way that people are dealing with
the hell ish uncertainty that uh we currently exist in,
and that is the uh emerging fringe religious slash political

(37:11):
movement of Q and On. So we talked about how, um,
you know, these movements can start off as laughable and
then as they evolved in gay momentum, the outcomes can
be horrific. Uh. So the adherence to the Q and

(37:31):
On conspiracy are I mean, it's just spreading uh anecdotally.
We've talked about people I know, but just also you
know now that now it's acceptable for uh people in
the halls of power in d C. There's people running
for office who aren't being you know, laughed out. It's
almost like it's the Tea Party movement where it's like, yeah,

(37:54):
well that's a that's a perspective that people have. It
happens to be one that is more sympathetic to my
like really radically racist ideas, So yeah, come on in.
Another thing is TODE. There's even people in office who
are like, you know, winking at Q and on supporters
who are already seeded members of Congress, whether that's the

(38:15):
retweets or going on someone's show, there's definitely like I
think there is a they do have eyes on this too.
Is like maybe another group that can be you know,
converted into like, you know, your hardcore conservatives again. But
it's just it gets really really dark and for people
who you know, we talk about the conspiracy theory a lot,

(38:37):
but just to reiterate, you know that these people believe
that there's an insider, uh like in d C who
is basically giving the followers little tidbits and hints about
how the yeah, how the deep state is planning to
take down Donald Trump or White America, or there's so
many other issues tied to this or how like any
potential uh uh covidvaccine could be about mind control, That

(39:03):
five G has something to do with the coronavirus. That
Black Lives Matter is a complete like illusion organization that
was funded by George Soros. I mean, that's a that's
a belief held all over the political or the conservative
idea spectrum. But that's one that Q and on people
especially are interested in. So it just basically this really
fucked up kaleidoscope that these people used to look at

(39:24):
any given issue without seeing, you know, some other connection
to uh, the deep state or the suppression of you know,
the true patriots in this country. I mean, it's like
a more militant, verging on religious version of Trump is um,
like the Trump is the central figure. Q claims that

(39:47):
Trump is secretly fighting this ring of pedophiles that is
like Obama, the Clintons. Uh, you know, all these famous
people Will Ferrell, Tim hide Becker are are now implicated. Um,
the one the performance artist from the artist as present. Uh,

(40:08):
like all of these, you know, people who are somewhat
critical of the president are implicated in this wild, vast
child eating like baby eating satanic conspiracy theory straight out
of the eighties. Like this is you know, if you
ever watched any documentaries about like the eighties satanic panic

(40:31):
or read about it, this is basically that, but tied
to a worldview where Donald Trump is like the only
right person in the government. And it's also militant, like
they have killed people. Uh they have. One of their
followers showed up at Comic Pizza, the Comic pizzeria with

(40:55):
an assault weapon. It's it's really scary. It all grows
out of the Podesta email dump from Wiki leaks, and
but there's also where there you look at the situation
and there are there is such a thing where there
are there seemed to be powerful people in this world

(41:17):
who are involved in sex trafficking and child abuse, which
is interesting because they're always sort of needs to be
some element of truth to really be It's not like
out of fully thin air. There's always just there's just
enough that keeps these people into it, and the momentum builds.
And I think that's why Twitter is intervening, because yeah,

(41:39):
we're seeing you know, whether it was the guy with
children in his car running away from the police begging
the president to like save him, who was like very
into these conspiracies, or a woman who was on her
way to like attack Joe Biden because of videos she
had seen. It's becoming a problem. And they announced on
Tuesday that they've removed thousands of accounts of associated with

(42:00):
the Conspiracy Um, and they said they're starting off with
like first it was like about seven thousand accounts, but
it's part of this larger, larger initiative on the social
media platform to just scrub the content off because, like
we're saying, it bleeds into things like vaccines and like
public health and these other is this very very dangerous,

(42:21):
harmful ideas that people are taking on board and acting
out in real life. And in addition to purging some
of the accounts, they said they have like sort of
a three three main goals. One uh quote, no longer
serve content and accounts associated with Q and On in
trends and recommendations, because you would see they would get
trending a lot all the time, whether it was like

(42:43):
Obama stuff whoever, whether you know they said Hillary Clinton
had already been executed and she had a body double
walking around. The second thing is to work to ensure
we're not highlighting this activity in search and conversations. And
three block you r l's associated with Q and on
from being shared on Twitter or And they say all
in all, they think a hundred accounts will be affected

(43:04):
when they fully start putting this uh protocol in place. Yeah, Um,
it's really it's really, uh, you know that if I
thought this was gonna work, I'd be pleased. I I
just the you know, this is just going to lead
to Q and on coming up with the theory where

(43:25):
Jack Dorsey from Twitter is part of the conspiracy and
is uh, you know, trying to protect the child smugglers.
Like it's just that that's just the way it's going
to because all it takes is one photo of you
with somebody who's tangentially connected to anything, or one like
or tweet or follower or you're following someone, these very

(43:48):
tenuous connections. But I guess again, when you're so you know,
invested in this being the reason to explain why the
world is what it is, then these people just go
you know, came into it. So just to give a
case study of how like one of these theories just
goes and sort of spiderwebs off into a million different directions,

(44:10):
John Podesta had, who is Hillary Clinton's chief of staff,
had emailed Marina Maria Marina Abramovich, the performance artist about
a dinner that had like some weird language in it
because you know, it was an email and who who
knows why, but they used that email to suggest that

(44:34):
she was tied into some weird satanic ritual. And then
they found a example of her having a meal with
Will Farrell at one point and so them just being
at the same dinner. So they then bring in the
idea that Will Farrell is a child eating baby killer.

(44:57):
And then they find a sketch that Will Ferrell did
on the Tim and Eric Show where he's like a
used car salesman but he's selling child clowns. Just it's
like absurd and creepy, like all of the Tim and
Eric stuff is. And so then they claimed that Tim
and Eric are involved in this whole ritual satanic you know,

(45:21):
a web of conspiracy, and it's just like you can't
do anything to stop that. It's just just paying attention
to it is going to cause it to grow. Not
paying attention to it is going to cause it to grow.
And I always bring up the Taiping Rebellion in response
to this, the deadliest civil war ever in China, and

(45:43):
it was all about a silly fringe religious belief where
a guy thought he was Jesus's brother, and uh, and
everybody laughed at it and it ended up killing twenty
million people. So, uh, alright, let's let's take one more
break and we'll come back and talk about Tucker Carlson. Yeah,

(46:15):
and we're back. And the President had his first Corona
briefing and since the Lisol injection, uh claim speculation. Uh,
that made everybody really concerned about his ability to lead
the nation through the pandemic. Um. He just it's sort

(46:37):
of a desperate move. But I think he's just seeing
the poll numbers move in the wrong direction so drastically
that he's like, all right, I gotta do something to
get out. I gotta go back to the thing that
was so bad the entire party begged me to stop
doing Like that is a that is the logic baffles
me because it's like you're going back into a process

(46:58):
where eventually he it's loose with it and he starts soloing.
He does his freestyle jazz, and he's back to saying like, yo,
do the hydroxy CLOrk when intravenous lisow medicine show welcome. Um.
So that that began again two days ago, and he
started the script pretty well. Uh. It seems like he

(47:20):
somebody got in his ear and was like, yo, just
just rewards the words, will spell them phonetically. Just read
the words, um, have him, have him whispered in my
I FB so I don't like to read. I'll just
mimic whatever they say. And he boshed up by all
other politician standards, but nailed it by the standards the

(47:41):
like lol lol lo bar that has been set for
him as a leader. Um, but he because it was
phil it was riddled with more lies and yeah, totally.
It's just so people know. It wasn't like he said anything.
He off. The rip was like he called it China
virus be and lying about when he closed the board.

(48:02):
You know, he did his usual thing of things that
he tries to lie about to explain why he's actually
still doing a good job. He did that and then
some other just very pre written comments. The words he's
sticking to are still being written by Stephen Miller and
you know the racist white supremacists and ghoules in his administration.

(48:22):
But it's not. I think the thing that people in
his party fear is that he's gonna just start free
associating and you know, say something such as what he
said when he was asked a question about accused child
sex trafficker and longtime Trump friend Jis Laine Maxwell. Yeah,

(48:45):
I'm just gonna play it for you because if you've
seen you know, his interviews over the past, he's it's
he's been having trouble like coming off like cool, calm
and collected. It seems very frazzled all the time. And
this mee was the opposite of cool, calm and collected.
You know what, hot, excited and loose if it's not collected. Okay,

(49:08):
So this is the This is just a simple question.
He made it through so many other questions until he's
asked about Glen Maxwell. Um, just Lane Maxwell is in prison,
and so a lot of people want to know if
she's going to turn in powerful people. And I don't
even talked in the past about Prince Andrew, and you've
criticized Bill Clinton's behavior. I'm wondering, do you feel that

(49:31):
she's doing to turn in powerful men? How do you
see that working out? I don't know. I haven't really
been following it too much. I just wish you well, Frankly, Wait, okay,
so um, before this he he Mariah carried Jeff Epstein.
He was like, who oh, I don't know. I don't
know him. I've never you know, I used to stop

(49:52):
dealing with. But then with Glane Maxwell, he's like or
galan or however we're supposed to say it now ever
be he did, but he did not see the documentary
where everyone else who had interacted with her called her that.
Suddenly it's like, oh, you know she's a you know,
known her for a while. I guess they lived together.

(50:14):
So there was like a I'm guessing a vague reference
to Jeffrey Epstein and then he wishes her. The whole
commentary is is very odd, and I think aside from
just up front saying like, yes, this accused sex trafficker, abuser,
I wish them well, that is already disturbing. But then

(50:34):
when you sort of look deeper and you know that
they have a relationship, and the question was asked in
the context of like there could be some very powerful
men that could be, you know, held to account based
on the things or Gillen Maxwell may or may not
know what's your thing, and he's like, yeah, I wish
you're the best. It's like, I don't know. The whole

(50:55):
thing is it's very odd, it's unbelievable, kind of like
I is he claiming such ignorance of everything that's going
on in that case that he is just gonna be like, well,
I didn't know. I didn't. She just seemed like a
very nice lady to me. I don't know, because on
one hand, he did admit he was like he's like,

(51:15):
Jeffrey Epstein is a bad guy. He did say that.
It's like and that's why, like a fift twenty years ago,
I stopped talking to him. I kept my distance from
that man. But then when she's brought up, it's like
they were together all the time. Yet you don't know him,
but you know her and wish her well, and I think,
you know, this is just it goes to show like

(51:39):
how dark and twisted these webs can get. And also
back to that Q and on thing that it's the
same sort of way, like the sort of cycle of
thoughts begin where you're like, well, he's known them, he's
in this photo. What does he know, he's on these
flight logs. There must be something there and the you know,
we all begin our amateur sleuthing or at least ideation

(52:03):
around it. But yeah, I think after watching that documentary
and like hearing firsthand like what her role is or
role was in the Jeffrey Epstein stuff. I can't imagine,
and you could. The first thing you'd say was you
wish them well, even if you just take that very narrowly,
regardless of what the implications are, because some people speculate
is he trying to you know, signal some kind of

(52:25):
part and just keep your mouth shut. We can do
with sports something out, don't say something. Don't make it
hot for me. I don't know, but just in that
very narrow context, it's very disturbing. Monica, have you been
following this story at all, the guillen I have not, no, no,
but I have been UM. I have been following the

(52:46):
Jeffrey Epstein UM case and and certainly the cases of
many other UM powerful men involved in abuse of of women. UM.
And it I mean I listened. I listened to your
discussion of this and the Q no on is it. Yeah, yeah,
of of q no on UM and well one. It

(53:08):
gives me an appreciation, just an even even greater appreciation
for my profession, because I mean, this is the job,
this is why we have UM. Professional solid journalism is
to go in and take these UM these questions and
and and do the research, UM confirm, and and and
verify and and come to print. You know, when when

(53:29):
when there are outstanding questions in a particular issue. You know,
as as a journalist, you you go in and you
you you you turn to your reliable sources and data
and documentation and UM and rather and and and combat
um this misinformation UM through through your good work. But yeah,
this you speak about the powerful men um and and

(53:52):
and how and and and abuse of women and children. UM.
I think about this, uh, this cult, the nexium cult
um which I've been which I was looking into be
um as part of the podcast because one of UM,
Keith Ranieri's business associates was the son of of a

(54:14):
former Mexican president and uh and there was a lot
of UM, you know, UM wealthy elite Mexicans who were
associated um with uh with Ranieri. UM. And there is indeed,
UH there was a leaked recording of UM of the
former president's son, his name is Emmi Leano Selina's UM

(54:37):
you know, acknowledging that that his knowledge of that the
women were branded as part of this as part of
this cult. And you know, nothing happened to him. UM.
You know, he wasn't ever charged or um or or
or or you know, nothing, nothing happened, I mean, and
and I think this, this culture of impunity around power

(54:58):
and wealth is is p part of what is um
you know, part of the problem, one of one of
these unresolved problems that that we need to address as
a as a country. Yeah, and the comedy rougling to
have a reckoning with two like you just see even
you know, to your point of like the like the
journalist Julie Brown, I think she's the one who wrote

(55:20):
the Miami Herald piece around Jeffrey Epstein. Like to hear
all of the the roadblocks they ran into even in
pursuit of the truth, it makes it so much more heroin. Yeah, correct, Yes,
And it used to be I I would feel very
very comfortable and very safe and backed up working as

(55:41):
a journalist in this country, unlike my colleagues on the
Mexican side, who who don't have that that sense of security.
I mean, Mexico is one of the top countries where
journalists are targeted and and assassinated because of their work. Um.
And I used to feel some some level of confidence
that I was protected from that fate being an American journalist.

(56:05):
But um, in the last four years, that confidence has
um has eroded. Yeah, it's very Yeah, and that's you know,
I think the point to well, it's always meant to
intimidate those who are trying to speak truth to power.
At least share the information that will help people begin
to think differently about what's going on. Well, speaking of chilling,

(56:29):
Tucker Carlson has been chilling uh by going on vacation. UH.
So I do want to briefly talk about this because
this is the story that I had like only taken
a glancing look at, UM, but our writer j McNabb
kind of did a deep dive into it. So, Um,
there are two scandals that are hitting Tucker Carlson at

(56:51):
the same time his top writer guys complimented constantly and
talked about how he's involved in every aspect of the show.
Blake new Off we talked about this. I think last
week UH had anonymously written racist, sexist, and homophobic message
board posts. CNN kind of identified this anonymous poster as

(57:14):
Tucker Carlson's top writer because he had made it incredibly obvious. UM,
which isn't surprising. I mean, it's as Jam wrote, it's
like finding out that a writer from Seinfeld secretly posted
comedic musings about the minutia of modern life. It's like, yeah,
that's what you do. That's exactly what. Yeah, but um,

(57:39):
you know he So Tucker Carlson came on the air
and was like, uh, you know, he called Neff's actions
wrong and then immediately, like in the next sentence, started
defending him. Uh. Didn't even like wait till later in
the episode or till the next episode, just uh started

(58:01):
calling the people who criticized him uh ghouls uh and
then for them. And then he randomly announced that he
was going on vacation, which uh, he said, a long
planned vacation, which is code word for UH in the
Fox News world for letting things cool down because the

(58:24):
host fucked up in a major way. I remember this
happening a lot with Bill O'Reilly. More recently had happened
with Laura Ingram, where they would say, I'm going on
a pre planned vacation, uh, starting that Tuesday. They announced
it on Monday after the ship has hit the fan uh,
and then announced that they're going on a pre planned

(58:45):
vacation starting the next day. So uh, just before he
came back from his totally real vacation over the weekend,
Fox News was hit with a lawsuit from former producer
Jennifer k Art uh and frequent guest Cathy Array, alleging
that Fox cultivated and fostered sexual harassment and misconduct. Specifically, Uh.

(59:11):
Carlson himself had propositioned Array when she was seeking a
full time job at Fox News, mentioning to her at
the Fox News Christmas Party, which those words send a
shiver down my Yeah. But he mentioned to her that
he would be staying alone in his hotel room without
any wife or kids. Uh. And you know, first of all,

(59:34):
thank god Fox News has battled so tirelessly against the
liberal war on Christmas. Lest men not be able to
celebrate Jesus's birthday by drunkenly hitting on women whose employment
situation is dependent on their support. Um anyways, he uh
he then when she you know, just kind of tried

(59:58):
to avoid the conversation and you know, turn him down
as politely as possible. Uh. He ended her long run
on Tucker Carlson tonight as one of the you know,
frequent guests. Um so rather than announced another fishing vacation
since this came out right as he was coming back

(01:00:20):
from his uh long planned original vacation, he created a
new controversy, very Trumpian, in order to distract from the
two other scandals. Uh. He claimed that The New York
Times was going to run a story revealing the location
of his house in order to hurt his family. Um,

(01:00:41):
and he, uh, yeah, it's very strange and like the
New York Times is just like he knows. First of all,
we're not going to do that. We the New York
Times does not docks people intentionally. Second of all, Uh,
he knew that heading into the episod, vowed he had

(01:01:01):
the writers for his show had presumably reached out to
fact check and they were like no what. Anyways, he
went live with that accusation while naming the reporter he
claimed was going to docks him and his family. Uh.
And that reporter was then docks. So he actively like

(01:01:22):
declared war on a journalist and that reporters you know,
been docks and their life has been threatened by Tucker
Carlson's fans. Uh, it's you know, but that's how this reporter.
Was this reporter selected at random or or did this
reporter have was there a reason? I think they were

(01:01:47):
writing something critical of Tucker Carlson, like there there's no
shortage of things to write negative about Tucker Carlson in
the past week, and so he for some reason latched
onto some detail and claimed that it was evidence that
The New York Times was going to docks him, and
The New York Times was like, no, that's obviously not

(01:02:09):
going to happen. What are you talking about? Um? But anyways,
that so that created a nice side show. Um. And
then he also is like beefing wished on Hannity because
he he criticized Jeff Bezos for getting making more money
in a single day than anyone has ever made. Uh,

(01:02:29):
and he's also richer than anyone's ever been in Tucker Carlson,
he liked randomly will have politically valid points that he makes.
But Sean Hannity was like, well, uh, that's America buster
when when they were doing the handoff um in between shows,
and that again just created another not a little scandal

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for us to to ignore the fact that, uh, this
family man who stands for family I'll use uh was
trying to use his position of power to um, you know,
have a sexual relationship presumably with a person who he
was in no position to do that too. Um. Yeah,

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the I mean, yeah, back to what we've been talking
about the end, we'd hope for to see the at
least a shift away from this like man acting with
impunity because I'm here, you need this from me, Therefore
I have carte blanche to behave in anyway I can.
It's just and the yeah, the planned vacation thing is

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just really fancy speak for their fucking up the advertising money.
And that's the only way we can stop the bleeding
is to get their face, like literally off the screen.
Cheesemo exists everywhere, truly absolutely. Monica Tier question on like
what the exact details were of the reporter who got

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from the New York Times. The New York Times said, like,
we don't release details of anything that we write in
future editions of the papers, so like they're being sort
of opaque about it. But I'm I'm assuming we will
eventually get some sort of insight into what exactly The
New York Times is going to write and how Tugger

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Carlson responded and interpreted all that. I'm I'm sure it's
wildly irrational. Um, but well, we'll see. Since I don't
think The New York Times has ever maliciously docked anyone
in a story. But when would they print an address
unless it was like, hey, there's this event going down
in the city at this address. Like other than that,

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I see no point that it's ever of use. Yeah,
very strange, Monica. It has been such a pleasure having
you on the Daily Zeitgeist. Where can people find you?
Follow you here? You Yeah, thanks for having me on.
I survived the did your journalistic integrity intact correct? Correct? Well,

(01:05:06):
we'll see about that, um, but um, yes, yes you can.
Well absolutely listen. Tune into to our podcast Forgotten the
Women of Hawadis and we'll have um, we'll have a
new episode out on July. UM, so we're to two
more episodes away from the end. So we're getting to

(01:05:28):
the really good stuff, um, the really important stuff. And
you can follow me on my Twitter account which is
at m and is there a tweet or some other
work of social media you've been enjoying. There is a
group of UM Latin x UH writers at the l

(01:05:52):
A Times who are coming together and advocating for bringing
more UM Hispanic let next writers on board and be
more representative of UM of the region they cover. And
I think that's that's pretty badass. Miles. Where can people
find you and follow you? And what's the tweet you've

(01:06:13):
been enjoying? Uh? You could find me follow me on
Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray. And also you
know the other podcast for twenty day Fiance if you
want to talk some reality nonsense about ninety day Fiance. Uh.
Let's see a tweet that I like is from James Third,
James three from Astronomy Club. Uh. And this it's James

(01:06:33):
Sir at James Third Comedies. Is handled His tweet is
it's a quota says I've noticed you'll say something sad
and then you laugh. It's attributed to my therapist. Ah,
that's how we deal with things sometimes. So true. Uh.

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First of all, shout out to everybody for um all
the corrections on my Old Guard review, which was a
fucking disaster. First of all, the so I said the
writer was just some dude, he's actually the writer of
the comic that the movie is based on. I'm an idiot.
I'm the opposite of journalist. I guess you could say. Uh.

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And also, most embarrassingly, I I confused u Kiki Lane
and Kiki Palmer. Kiki Lane is the actress from If
Beal Street Could Talk and who was in this movie?
And I kept calling her Kiki Palmer and before the

(01:07:37):
delivery service right, shout out to the studio Hibli. Yes,
thank you guys for for calling me out. Um a
tweet I've been enjoying. Uh. Kurtneial tweeted, I'm more of
a Lynn Manuel Samantha. Um. I loved that Sex in

(01:07:58):
the City mashup. Uh. You can find me on Twitter
at Jack Underscore. O'Brien, you can find us on Twitter
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We have a Facebook fan page and a website daily
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footnotes where we link off to the information that we
talked about in today's episode, as well as the song

(01:08:22):
we write out on miles. What are we gonna write
out on today? Okay, Well, we had a track from
darrener Est today. There's another track that I like because
it's referencing a very specific sneaker, the air Max ninety
seven and all gold and the track is called Golden
ninety Seven's and I know what he's talking about is
just off the strength of the title. I was very
intered in the track, but he's just a master with

(01:08:44):
these jazz samples. There's like a really trippy blute sample
that goes off and some strings. Again, more music to
have on the background. Do something change the vibe in
your abode if you will so change. I've been finding
your music recommendations helpful because to get Hamilton's out of
my head. For some reason, I wake up every morning

(01:09:06):
with a different song from Hamilton's stuck in my head
and it's driving me mad. And it's by the way,
my my originally a kay was from that Will Ferrell
sketch about the devil uh so thematic call forwards to
the Will Ferrell being a Satanic day eater. Uh one

(01:09:30):
of the best sketches on the in SNL history, So
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