Queen Of The Zeitgeist, What To Worry About On Election Day 11.6.18

In episode 268, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian and host of the Alchemy This! podcast Kevin Pollak to discuss the Bohemian Rhapsody film, Trump's behavior during midterms, Brian Kemp's office investigating the Democrats, why people like death metal, the calming game of Tetris, and more!

FOOTNOTES:

1. ‘Bohemian Rhapsody’ Rocks With $50 Million, ‘Nutcracker’ Crumbles

2. ‘Bohemian Rhapsody’ Rules International Box Office With Killer $72 Million

3. Sacha Baron Cohen: I quit Freddie Mercury biopic after dispute with Queen

4. ‘Bohemian Rhapsody’ Doesn’t Straightwash, but It’s Confused About Freddie Mercury’s Sexuality

5. 'Trump has hijacked the election': House Republicans in panic mode

6. Brian Kemp’s Office, Without Citing Evidence, Investigates Georgia Democrats Over Alleged ‘Hack’

7. Psychologists are trying to figure out why people like death metal

8. TINY FINNISH TOWN WINS WORLD CAPITAL OF METAL CROWN

9. Can't Stop Worrying? Try Tetris To Ease Your Mind

10. A better distraction: Exploring the benefits of flow during uncertain waiting periods.

11. WATCH: Sudan Archives - Nont for Sale

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season fifty six, Episode
two of dir Daily eight Geist, the podcast where we
take a deep dive into america shared consciousness and unconscious
using the headlines, box office reports, TV ratings, what's trending
on Google and social media. It's Tuesday, Election Day, November six,
two thou eight teen. My name is Jack O'Brien. A KA.
I tried miles of gray, and I choke. Try to

(00:24):
Jack O'Brien and I stumble, so I try to hide it.
It's clear my world crumbles when Daily Z's not here.
A little fell apart, a little bit at the end
that was courtesy of Vader for press. How appropriate. Well,
he's already voted, guys. Do you guys need to get
out there and do it yourselves? And I'm thrilled to
be joined as always by my co host, Mr Miles

(00:46):
grass I walked to the valley of the Trump writer ricks.
I'll take a look at the month and realize we
gotta vote, because I've been miles of grave for so
long that even Jack O'Brien thinks my mind is gone.
But I never voted for a chump didn't deserve it.
I just added that but anyway, that is from Jay Copra.
Thank you for that Gangster's Paradise a K. And guys, yes,

(01:08):
to vote today if you have not already, if you're
listening right now, it's the morning, please remember to vote.
To vote is too Yeah, you sounded like a You're
going to be very profound to vote today. I've not
had any I can hear Nick. Nick's eyes rolling in
his sockets as we do these a K s. He's like, yeah,

(01:28):
you know how you guys used to try to find
songs that sounded like you they had your name in it.
But that's not gonna stop. That's not gonna stop us
at all. Well, we are thrilled to be joined by
the most famous person we've ever had in our third seats,
embarrassing for us, right exactly the stars some of my
favorite movies of all time. He has a new podcast

(01:50):
on this very network. Please join me and welcoming Kevin Pollock.
Thank you, please be seated. Thank you you You failed
to mention the recent collection of many Emmy awards. Yes,
oh that's right, that stream. I almost called it a
television show, which I assumes how most people watch it.

(02:10):
But on the TV, what's that show called The Marvelous
Mrs May's own that's right, and heard of it frequent. Yeah,
he's a writer on the show. Yeah yeah, Yeah, Well, Kevin,
we're going to get to know you a little bit better.
But first we're gonna take our listeners through what we're
talking about today. We're going to talk about Bohemian Rhapsody

(02:32):
just dominating at the box office yesterday, did you wonderful? Perfect?
We have somebody to tell us firsthand, what what the deal?
We're gonna talk about just mid term stuff and the
second block, and then we're gonna talk about death metal
music and we're going to talk about Tetris in the
third act. But first, Kevin, what is something from your

(02:56):
search history that is revealing about who you are? What
is in my church history that reveals? Okay? Sorry, I
always like backload the significance and it's not really fair.
I apologize. Where to vote early. I looked up that
over the weekend a couple of actresses because I'm castling
this movie I'm directing, so I had to look them up.

(03:18):
And you can't say who they are, certainly can't. I
don't want to jinx it. What the hell else is
in here. Are you allowed to talk about what the
movies about or anything like that? The film that I'm
allegedly directing, Uh, well, I can talk about it because
the big splashy thing was in the so called trades.
The trades, yeah, phobio. I'll let you explain that to

(03:41):
your listeners if you feel. And Hollywood Reporter, and they
use fun slang like bafo bio and ankle to New York, yes,
or Gotham. They call New York Gotham. Um, yeah, so
uh I wrote this sort of twisting turning who done.
It's a contemporary set, but it's an are sort of
classic and storytelling styles and um, you know in Fatalite

(04:04):
Detective that sort of thing, twist and turn surprises, period piece. No,
it's contemporary set, but uh, I'm very excited that it'll
have a sort of a driving indie rock sound. Bad
to spend spend the genre on. It's here a little bit,
and we're in the casting process now, allegedly shooting in
New Orleans in January. I only say allegedly because it's
been financed and fallowing apart a few times already, so

(04:27):
I'm not going to count on this. Yeah, son of
a bitch happening until I'm not the premiere. I used
to saying, till I'm on the set saying action. Nope,
it's got to be the premiere real till I see
it with an audience. Right, what is something you think
is overrated? Oh? Golly um? People's opinions? Yeah, fuck them?
But well, I just think, you know, there was a

(04:48):
time when there were a few people who had very
important opinions, and maybe arguably the we'st seeing to come
out of the entire internet is, uh, everyone is in
a very loud opinion and they seemingly matter right, matter
to them, and yeah, but their opinions stated as fact
has become a big problem. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, for sure.

(05:12):
And it's also harder to gauge what sort of information
people are getting and what what is influencing people because
opinion is just on the same level as fact, as
they stated as such. So, you know, there was a
time when you would believe people who had the facts
right and there was a certain delivery which they shared
these facts, and that same exact delivery with confidence and

(05:34):
poise is being used with with opinion and it's fucking
everything up pretty bad. Man. Yeah, yeah, it is, so
that's over it. It used to be we only had
Andy Rooney, and that was Andy Rooney at the end.
You're too young, remember that, but it's true. But now
everyone is Andy Roony. Twitter has found a way where
even if you have a like a thousand people who

(05:55):
agree with you, that elevates your voice and sudden people
like and this person is the leader of some other
thing you like, I don't know, you have an overlap
of a thousand idiots or unfortunately their opinions are about
stuff besides, lines are too long. You hate it when
when migrant caravans come up with lepers and like lepers,

(06:16):
where did you get lepers? Andy Rooney? What the hell
are you talking about? What is something you think is underrated? Underrated? Yes, sir,
M five guys. French fries al right, great stuff. Yes,
style don't even need catchup. Yeah you really don't. They're
badass motherfucker's. It's one of those fries to where when

(06:39):
I first got it, I didn't realize it was just
coming in a bag. And that's my favorite type of
fried delivery, when they're just like just here, paper bag,
yeah really just paper. But yeah, because when you say bag,
it could be the little white paper bag that most
fries come in, So I wanted to back you up
with the clear visual or they or they'll put the
cup in the bag and then just over fill the

(07:00):
entire thing where mixed in with your change. It's arguably well,
First of all, it is absolutely the best fast food
French fry okay on the planet, and it's arguably one
of the best French fries you can get. Now, are
these the ones that are twice fried? They fry them twice,
so they're a little bit extra crisp. I actually don't.
I can't call them to mind, so I must not

(07:20):
have had them. They're not necessarily extra crisp, but they
are twice fried. Yeah, they're still uh, I'm gonna say
lucy goosey body shape. Yeah, I think crisp. I think stiff.
Definitely not that they don't snap man. Yeah, underrated under
good texture. I suppose I should have talked a lot

(07:42):
of reading. No, no, no is underrated. You nailed it.
Awareness of your surroundings also underrated. I find that to
be a real fucking problem. Almost every day, people walking around, Yeah,
just completely oblivious to their surrounding. Like, am I the
only one who's watching where they're going? Yeah, either in

(08:03):
my car or on foot. It's astonishing. I see a
lot of people reading and walking a lot more now,
not even on their phone, like full on books. Like guys, Yeah,
just listen to podcasts for God's an audio books the
very least. Yeah, well, you had multiple, underrated, but they
were all good. What is a myth? Finally? What is

(08:25):
something people think is true that you know to be false? Um? Well,
I get asked this every now and then, and it
won't seem to go away no matter how many times
on a wildly popular podcast, I straightened the record, so
I'll try once more. Um, those of us who were
in and called the usual suspects never received a script

(08:48):
where it wasn't clear to us who kaiser, so I
was by the end. That's a myth that people really
invested in and think it's true. There was a time
when you guys didn't know either write who CAUs while
you were shooting? Yeah, well we read the script knuckle ahead,
and the screenplay that went on the win the Academy
would did in fact include the ending, right, Yeah, so

(09:10):
we always knew and the amazing nous of the script
had something maybe to do with the fact that you
guys wanted to do the movie in the first place. Exactly. Yeah,
you kind of need to know what that ending is. Yes,
maybe what a movie. So those are just like fans
trying to like sort of project their fantasies and be like,
it's a legitimate urban legend that I've been I've been

(09:33):
asked by allegedly intelligent people like, what was it like
when you actually found out exactly, Well, I was reading
the premier or something. Yeah, we went to can Exactly.
There is some like if you do actual research, you
can find movies where that's true, where they like didn't
tell people on set, even like the sometimes they shoot

(09:56):
two endings right and then you definitely don't. The act
on set in the Darth Vader costume said, I didn't say, Luke,
I am your father. That was added obviously when James
Earl Jones added it, But that was like a thing
that they like kept super under wraps. I want to
say Powers. His last name is Powers, the physical actor

(10:17):
inside the Darth Vader. Yeah, can somebody look that up
out there and get back to it. Where would they
write to us peel Box, David Prowse, There we go,
David Prowse, Prowse powers. I had a lot of the
same letters and order. He was a bodybuilder, so let's
not forget that. Have you seen the cut of the

(10:38):
first Star Wars when it's just him delivering the lines
before they add James James Earl Jones. It's amazing because
he kind of like has a like sort of pretty
angry delivery, and and it just it just changes everything.
It's just so clear how much every single aspect of
that movie like contributed to it being great, because it's

(11:00):
just you know, and I mean it's obviously they didn't
think they were going to do that. It was just
you know, a placeholder, but it was just interesting to
see that's what the actors were responding to. PRIs intensity, right,
Priss Intensity. I would point you towards a wonderful YouTube
channel that a great comedian and comic actor, British guy

(11:20):
Peter Sara Finnowitz, does a thing called Sassy Trump where
he takes video Trump speaking and replaces the audio with
you know, there's drunk version and there's slowed down version,
but he does one where it's just slightly sassy, slightly
sassy Trump. Oh yeah, he did like illegal space aliens, right,
was like the one over the summer. D Yeah, it's

(11:42):
funny because both Darth Vader and Trump are both kind
of like messy bitches a little bit sometimes like they
are like very likely he's kind of constantly having a
tantrum sort of thing. That's right. It does make a
sort of sense both the original Darth It her actors
performance and Peter Sarafinwitz is YouTube channel. Guys, let's talk

(12:05):
about Bohemian Rhapsody. I feel like this is one of
those stories that was in the Zeke, just like in
the Firmament. I didn't see it this weekend, but I
took my two year old to Chipotle and we had
just been listening to the song Bohemian Rhapsody in the
car and he was singing MoMA Me and Mama Mia,
and the person Apole was like, oh, did you see

(12:27):
the movie, and like it was just like one of
those like organic conversations that just struck up. And she
was like a twenty two year old and she was like, oh,
Queen's my favorite band, Like I can't wait to see it,
and she was like so excited two year old would
have Queeners their face, well, since at all. I love
just great singing, like if you're like a rock opera

(12:47):
kind of you know. But I think that's what we're
finding out because it dominated at the box office. I
think we're finding out that their reach is and I
kind of found it like it's the band that most
connects with my two year old son, like they're song.
There was a second coming, don't forget, and it was
possibly even bigger than the first. That's when I first
found out exactly it was that Bohemian Rhapsody in Wayne's

(13:11):
World and then on my tape player for the next
five years, just constantly, and that was still not I
remember because when I demanded my mom take me to
Music Plus when that was still a place to buy
music in l A, to buy the tape of the
Waynes Rold soundtrack for that song, she was like, you're
listening to Queen And she was like I used to
tour with them. As her translator, I was like, well, yeah,

(13:34):
it's backmoun but just some classic great pop songs that
we're finding out are even more timeless than maybe was
widely agreed on. But this it seems like, based on
what people have told me and Kevin, I'm interested to
hear your take that it is sort of Queen's greatest hits.
The movie sort of thing. Well, they show how a

(13:58):
lot of their biggest, most successful songs came to be,
you know, how, how they were either written or rehearsed
or recorded or performed in various stages, which is one
of the better storytelling devices to tell the story of
a famous band is to actually show how the fund

(14:20):
did you get to this song or this moment and
even in the high note, you know that craziness. There's
a moment the film where they show the recording of
the song and in that that one singer who was
the drummer according to the movie, is in the booth
trying to hit that higher note. And uh, it was

(14:43):
just spectacular. How Freddie Mercury just kept saying higher, amazingly
high higher. Yeah, the movie was spectacular. I assumed that
those vocals were like affected or like tuned up or
sped up or something, possibly by chemicals, but I don't think. Yeah,

(15:06):
this movie has an interesting backstory because so at first
Sasha Baron Cohen was connected to play Freddie Mercury, he
actually looks more like him if you think, yeah, he
looks a lot like him. Yeah, totally. And he ended
up having some issues, some clashes with the surviving band members.
He really wanted to go like full you know, just

(15:29):
hard our version of the story where you know, you
see all of the debauchery that like there. He had
a scene in his vision for the movie where little
people were walking around with plates of cocaine on their head,
because that was apparently a party that Freddie Mercury once attended.
Um but he said the uh he said this on

(15:52):
I think the Howard Stern Show that the moment he
realized he couldn't move forward was a member of the band.
This is a quote a member of the band. I
won't say who said, you know, this is such a
great movie because it's got such an amazing thing that
happens in the middle. And I go, what happens in
the middle of the movie, and he goes, you know,
Freddie dies, and I go, what happens in the second

(16:14):
half of the movie, and he goes, we see how
the band carries on from strength to strength. And I said, listen,
not one person is going to see a movie where
the lead character dies from aids and then you see
how the band carries on. Uh, and that isn't what
happens in the movie. Is that correct? That's not at
all what happened. That's not all so somebody So that's
what Sasha Baron Cohen was saying when he was going

(16:37):
back and forth with the band. The band member, one
of the band members was like, then it's about us
for the second half, and we move on from Freddie
and our attempt to find a singer who can replace
him and failing to do that. He was like, I
don't think that's gonna work so well. But somebody got
to the band, and that's not at all how the
movie is structured. One of the criticisms that's coming out

(16:58):
because this, despite being, you know, a big commercial success,
critics are kind of mixed on it, and the treatment
of Mercury's sexuality has been kind of panned a little bit,
for like, his first homosexual encounter comes when they're manager,
who is sort of the movie's villain, suddenly kisses him

(17:20):
and then the manager drags him quote unquote into a
world of drugs and gay sex parties. And that's kind
of part of Mercury's demise. Do you see that kind
of criticism, Um, I would say that's a pedestrian review.
A pedestrian review in the sense that the story ultimately

(17:41):
reveals when the love of his life, a woman he
was married to, I gave her a ring. I don't
think they showed an actual wedding common law wife. Yeah,
it was always referred to you had the love of
my life all the way through the film story. And
then at one point when he says to her in
a private moment, I think I might be bisexual, she says,

(18:03):
without hesitation, Freddie, you're gay. So is this? So that
helps us to understand that she always knew what was
fairly clear from the first time you meet him. In
the film, he's played I wouldn't say completely effeminine, but
but with a flair. And that flair is not just
dramatic or even melodramatic. It's camp the way that a

(18:30):
gay person who's out and open behaves in public. Right.
So Freddie in the film anyways, is portrayed as someone
who's sort of lived his life that way from the beginning. Interesting,
and then it's kind of clear to everyone that he's gay.
And then when but when he when it is shown
in the story of the film of having that kiss,

(18:50):
I think there was a moment before that actually where
he gets eyed up by a man and they exchange
expressions and Freddie doesn't act on it. Got it okay?
So I would I would say that's a very myopic
review of maybe for someone who's looking for something to
not like you have to remember, well you don't have

(19:12):
to remember, please consider that. Um Again my issue with
everyone having an opinion on the internet. It also is,
you know, film review used to be people who wrote
essays and they were learned individuals on the matter of storytelling.
So now that everyone has a blog or a or
an opinion on film, you're going to get fairly pedestrian

(19:36):
points of view or very personalized points of view. I
find like, like, I don't want to jump into that
person's life, but if a if a gay person saw
the film and felt like his homosexuality wasn't represented strong enough,
then they would take it as a personal affront because
they would say, have an invested interest, if you know

(19:58):
what I'm so, while I want to appreciate and empathize
with what that person experienced when they saw it, you know,
I think the film represents a larger picture. Yeah, I mean,
And the good thing about sites like Metacritic is that
it's sort of a democratization where you can see like
a whole spectrum of voices and choose the cure that

(20:21):
maybe you identify with. And I did hear that reviews
were mixed, totally mixed, And you know, it's it is
a film that elicits a great deal of excitement and emotion,
and um, you get caught up in the swirl of
what the band went through from total unknowns Cretti was
working baggage at the airport unloading off of a plane,

(20:43):
rise up through uh, you know, the formation of the band.
You really get caught up in their whirlwind lives and ultimately,
you know, the demise of happiness that comes with over
the top success. Totally yeah. Yeah. One other just a
thing that people pointed out about it that we probably

(21:03):
don't have too much time to get into, but they
were saying that his wife, his common law wife, Mary,
is somebody who he remained with like through his death
and who like nursed him, and he left most of
his things, most of his belongings and wealth to her,
and they were saying that he was more he identified

(21:25):
as bisexual, And so the whole like gay versus bisexual
thing is that that is something that I feel like
is in in the future or in other cultures will
look back at the idea that you're either gay or
straight as somewhat missing the mark in terms of how
people's sexuality actually operate. It seems like a very individual choice. Yeah, totally.

(21:48):
The rest of us need to put a title on
it so we feel better about our Exactly what box
are you in? Right? I don't like this fluidity of
a spectrum, which if it's a train, look are you
that's right? Uh, we are going to take a quick break.
We'll be right back and we're back. And as we

(22:17):
mentioned it as election day, get out there and vote.
Please vote, Please vote, please vote, whatever your viewpoint is,
just let's take back the country from these maniacs. Whatever
your viewpoint, or if you're one of the maniacs, there's
your chance to solidify your footing. Yeah, but you can
say at home, that's right, Yeah, you're one of the maniacs.

(22:40):
Make sure you're passed in front of a reflecting device
before you vote. So Trump has been closing out his
sort of roving pep rally for Donald Trump Trump tour
with some you know, usually the party in power will

(23:02):
point to, you know, the things that are working well
about their position. It'll be you know, look how good
things are going because we are we have all the power,
we have all the pets continue, let's continue having the power.
But that's not how Trump generally rolls, so he has
continued to sort of, you know, fight against people. Well, yeah,

(23:24):
I mean, I think the thing is though everyone was saying,
you know, the one thing that Republicans have a really
good economy, even though it's inherited from the past administration,
but the economy, and normally, you know, he's out there
saying I created the strongest economy or whatever, and they
like that because it's a thing people can kind of
latch onto. But Trump, again, he's in Steen mode where

(23:47):
he just is trying to get the base fired up,
which means xenophobia and racism. So it's been constant migrant
caravan talk at like really bizarre TV ads that are
so aggressively racist, like even Fox News had to say,
We've actually reconsidered airing this because it's too racist for

(24:07):
even Fox News, which should be telling you something. And
you know, the thing is that works for your base
because you know they're there, and if you're just trying
to turn them out, that's a good strategy. But this
is an election where a lot of people who may
have voted for Trump in or having second thoughts, or
other people who may be encouraged to vote might not
be convinced. And a lot of Republican congressmen or people

(24:27):
who are running for office right now don't like that
messaging because when you just hit the racism button over
and over when they go out to campaign, then people
come up to them and say, well, what do you think?
Is this your position too? And that puts them in
a very very awkward place because they don't want to
speak against the president, but they also might not actually
be that racist, so they don't want to. You know,

(24:47):
it's it just puts them in a bad place. So
Paul Ryan, I guess on Sunday called to beg the
president to just focus on the economy because that is
just less divisive. You already have a slew of incidents
that have occurred, whether it's the says our say ok
bomber or the shooting in Pittsburgh. There are numerous things

(25:08):
like this rhetoric is just not good. It's it's it
reminds me of all these other things. And he was
begged and Trump just said no because I really like
he's like, this works with the base. And I'm sorry
he said that, but this works with the base. All
he knows how to do is pander. Yeah. Yeah, it's
to use the sports metaphor for our sports fans. There's
like the multitool athlete who can do, who's versatile and

(25:30):
can be put in lots of different positions, and he's
just very he's not he's like got one. He's a
home run hit, power hitter, power hitter who strikes out
a lot, and he just seems very valuable in the
right circumstances, which it seems now that two thousand six
team was. I think this is going to be a

(25:53):
referendum on whether his sort of anger and divisive campaigning
work across different situations. It seems like it it shouldn't
by traditional political logic, it should not be uh something
that translates. But he's also a one of a kind

(26:13):
hate monger who is very good at that thing. So well,
we'll see how it translates. Yeah, I mean, it's a
lot of like GOOP operatives in this political article. They
were just sort of resigned to the fact that they're
just saying, well, he hijacked the election, and all the
work we've done to try and shape messaging to avoid this,
it's like, we can't, we can't do anything. His voice
rounds everything out, so fingers crossed. But I mean, I

(26:36):
mean he subtly had even hinted even Trump didn't wasn't
fully confident that they the Republicans, could keep the House.
And he's like, who knows, we might lose that there
are a lot of houses, There are a lot of
there are a lot of seats the housing crisis, So
that's right. But yeah, it's yeah, this it's it's just
that's you know, the closing argument for the GOP is
a racism. So I guess vote accordingly all Yeah. Um,

(27:00):
Brian Kemp, who this has kind of become the marquee
matchup between Brian Kemp and Stacy Abrams in Georgia. So
Stacey Abrams has been pulling really well lately and Brian
Kemp has been pulling out all the stops of voter
suppression uh, he is the Secretary of State, so he's

(27:20):
in charge of a lot of the laws that make
it possible for him to suppress the vote. And he
has come out and accused the Georgia Democrats of hacking
the Republican Party. Can you explain what I actually happened, Well,
it's just weird. They're Okay, you can get into all
the moving parts, but you can boil it down to
a very simple narrative. A volunteer on the Democratic side

(27:42):
received an email from someone who had just done a
simple analysis of the information systems for the Georgia voting
system and found vulnerabilities and sent it to this volunteer
and said, uh, you know, some of the most basic
computer knowledge could probably begin stealing data from here, and
this is how it could be done. Just just so
you know. That person took it to their superior who

(28:02):
then took it to cybersecurity experts that they had employed,
just to be like, can you assess this threat of
like how vulnerable the Georgia voting system is from hacking?
And there they said, oh, yeah, it's actually very vulnerable.
So then that those cybersecurity people reached out to Brian Kemp,
who as Secretary of State that would be pretty relevant
to him since he has to watch over elections in

(28:24):
the State of Georgia. And he then basically took that
information to then say that the Democrats had information on
how to hack the systems and they may have been
trying to hack the system because they had noticed some
attempt to breach the system. So he used this very
weird logic of the fact that they pointed out to
him how vulnerable system was, that there are probably a

(28:46):
suspect in possible hack, because that's what thieves do. They
go to the police and say, just so you know,
here's our tools that we use to break into that house,
right exactly what any good ahead of the big heist,
by the way, ahead of exactly how lnerability. Yeah, just

(29:09):
so you know there's a vulnerability at the safe we're
trying to break into. We thought we'd share with you
all the information we gathered about the safe just in
case something I wouldn't want this to be. And this
is the thing is that this isn't They aren't the
first or the only group to warn Brian Kemp or
the State of Georgia that there are so many ways
that the voter information or voter files could be tampered
with or accessed, and a lot of people with their

(29:30):
hair on if I've been screaming at him and this
whole time too. His response to those people initially has
always been, Oh, that's impossible. The system is safe, it's impenetrable.
We don't have to worry about these things. Yet in
this instance, he's saying, Oh, the people who even brought
this up are probably suspect number one. The really, the
wild thing about this entire story is the fact that
his team went out and then parades this as a victory,

(29:52):
like they stopped like the second nine eleven from happening.
So his spokesperson for his campaign said in a statement
that they threw an effort to expose vulnerabilities in this
voter system. That was an act of desperation by Democrats. Quote.
This was a fourth quarter Hail Mary pass that was
intercepted in the end zone. Thanks to the systems and

(30:13):
protocols established by the Secretary of State Brian Kemp, no
personal information was breezed. These power hungry radicals should be
held accountable for their criminal behavior. That is some banana republic. Really,
this is it's I mean it's a that just shows
you how I mean if we're getting that desperate, because

(30:33):
I mean if when you look at the amount of
registrations or like mail in ballots that they've been trying
to put on ice to try and keep from going
Stacy Abrams, where it's likely that those votes would go
to Stacy Abrams. I mean, if he wins, you would
think that there would be massive cries for some kind
of investigation because they've pulled out all the stops, and
not just in Georgia, like all over the country, like Kansas,

(30:56):
North Dakota. There's been all kinds of really horrific stories.
It's too easy, um that it should be the takeaway
from the two thousand sixteen election that we need to
go back to the most archaic forms of voting. It
all needs to be physical. It all needs to take
a couple of days to count. No computers can be used.
I mean, it really does need to grind to a

(31:17):
halt in terms of technology to make it not vulnerable
other than human air, which you can I think police
even better by having a multitude of counting physical bodies. Right,
this person counts and then that person recounts those and
so on yeah, I mean computers. Yet it's just so

(31:38):
easy to either misdirect voters. But I will never be
the same. Right, the Russian Guard Service has started using
typewriters again just to go to what you're saying. Right,
They're just like, yeah, funk all that everything is vulnerable,
you dummies. Well even it's funny. And what was it
when their elections happened in Russia recently and there was
like that footage of one of the counting sites and

(31:59):
they were just like throwing votes. I think those are
for Putin probably just like yeah, it's all good. Yeah,
I mean I do wonder how I think it would
be extremely difficult for if the Democrats, you know, have
a bad election day to day. I think it's going
to be very difficult for them to then say, well

(32:20):
there were security issues, because I mean, look how difficult
it's been for them to say that about two thousand
and sixteen. Well, and that's but in the Republicans have
done a good job to put their people in positions
like this as secretaries of state or attorney generals or judges,
so they have a way to ensure minority rule no
matter what happens. And I think That's the other thing
is they've they took a queue when Obama became president,

(32:42):
like Okay, we're gonna have to load this deck on
whatever way possible. And now this is what's happening, Like
you're seeing the product of that. All right, So what
races are we watching tonight? Guys? What are you keeping
your eye on. We've got bet oh obviously, and that's
you know, leaning crews. It would be a huge upset
if better were to pull it off. And then you've

(33:03):
got Gill him Abraham's both looking good ish for democ Yeah,
I mean very Hey, these are the kinds of races
that I think will really help people understand what direction
a wave is moving. If there's a wave, if there's
a I don't know, what's a smaller wave, a bit
of a ripple, ripple. Yeah, And then I know John
Tester and Montana's one Republicans are we're looking at to

(33:25):
try and turn red. Claire mccaskell is barely hanging on
in Missouri. Uh, Heidi height camp might Uh that's yeah.
That one's basically a loss. Ye. But one one that's
really interesting is Abigail Spamburger, who is in Virginia's seventh district,
which is Eric Cantor's old seat, who was unseated by

(33:48):
this guy, Dave Bratt. And this has been a pretty
solid red district for a long time. But she is
a very interesting candidate. She has like an insanely like
credible national security background. She's a CIA operative, so she's
not she's not any novice when it comes to national security,
and she has really been closing in on this seat too.

(34:09):
And it's the kind of race that I think is
indicative of like you have a solidly red seat, but
you're seeing a democratic challenge or really performed like overperformed
really in the district. Uh, And we'll see how a
lot of these suburban like excurb voters go. But I
think that's when to look out for and could be
an indicator of other things to come. But I mean

(34:30):
it's tense, and I think just like over the weekend,
SNL kind of summed it up with that like fake
video about the blue wave coming and everyone is like
through Clent's teeth like smiling, like super nervous. Yeah. I mean,
because you know, traditional wisdom failed us last time, or
what we were relying on to try and indicate with
the six Team, we were complacent. Yeah, exactly. So I

(34:51):
like the idea that we're nervous, yeah and doing trying
to do something about it. Um, this seems like a
perfect time to mention I have an all new comedy podcast. Yes,
it has a relief It's called comic Relief for a
for a reason. Uh, the general terminology. Uh, I'm getting it.
We'll get to it whenever you guys want to talk about. Yes,

(35:13):
and then Steve King very funny coming off of comedy
Steve King Open White Supremacists is you know, has been
slated to win. But the guy who's running against him,
who's a complete political newcomer, J D. Scholton, former professional pitcher,
He's making a run at Steve King's I was fourth

(35:34):
congressional district and you know the Cook. This is one
of those ones where the Cook Political Report, which you know,
as Miles has shared back in his political days, that's
the report that you checked every morning, even to the
point that I was like, what's going on with Cook
Political Report? And he was like, oh, it's always there's
always long lag time because all the political consultants are
checking it that are just their servers right, yeah, well

(35:57):
a little bit of both, I think right now, especially
though because it's getting so tight, everyone looks to Charlie
Cook too. Yeah, look at the read the tea leaves. Yeah,
and they do a good job. And this is the
King Chulton race is one where it's going from you know,
solid our solid Republican to likely Republican to now just

(36:17):
a lean Republican. So it's moving to the left. It's
moving democratic, but it's just a question of whether it's
going to move yeah far enough. Well, there's always so
many ways to look at polling, and it truly is
I've noticed like a lot of the reporting on poles
comes out really it is sort of if you are
a half empty or half full kind of person, because
for example, like the Democrat lead in the generic ballot

(36:41):
is something people go, well, it's tightening or it's widening.
And you can look at it in a few ways,
like if you look on an arc right from June
to September, the lead that the Democrats took on a
generic ballot just like shoots up, so it's searched, and
then in September it like dropped slightly. So depending on
who you are, you could say that the Democrat has

(37:02):
grown substantially, like over time in the summer months, or
you can say that since September it's waned a little bit,
but the fact of the matter remains like it's been
a pretty consistent upward trajectory and then sort of a
leveling off. And yeah, but I think it's a lot
of people who write on this stuff they don't want
to fall into the same sort of mistake of be like, oh, yeah, solid,

(37:24):
it's moving the right way, Everything's going to be fine.
But I think in the end, there's the only way
to guarantee that is everyone gets their ass to the
polls if you haven't already. Now there's no excuse to
vote if you're if you're allowed to have an opinion,
which we've been talking about how everyone is forced now
to listen to all the fucking opinions, then that would

(37:44):
be a good law, right. You can't can Twitter account
unless you fucking vote and we can verify that vote
or shut your Yeah, and there is So we talked
last week about how millennials are becoming the largest contingent
of adults in the United States and how their voting
records has suggested that they are just not politically engaged,

(38:05):
not interested. While they may be the most opinionated of
members of the internet, they are not the most politically motivated.
There are some early indicators that suggests that maybe that
is changing in this election, because millennial turnout for early
voting compared to two thousand fourteen is up to a

(38:28):
pretty ridiculous degree across the country, especially in states that matter, Yeah, Arizona, Georgia. Well,
when those high school kids across the country protested and
had marchers on, they couldn't seem more motivated. And that
they're all coming of age to vote is one of
the more exciting things for the Democrats. Absolutely, and that's

(38:50):
could be the thing that the polls don't can't measure too.
And I think that's what a lot of people on
the betto or rock side are saying. It's like it's
in the same way how Trump was sort of this
insurgent campaign that it's hard to sort of quantify. That's
that's sort of the same feeling because when you look
at some of the numbers right in Georgia, for example,
it's four hundred and fifteen percent higher than the last

(39:10):
mid terms. Tennessee, that's just a ridiculous, astounding. Yeah, Tennessee,
it's seven hundred and sixty seven percent higher, which people
Republicans have been like, Okay, we don't care what Taylor
Swift says. She can shut her mouth. It's like, well,
Taylor Swift might have driven a little bit. And I
know there's just but again, there's been so much grassroots

(39:32):
and an organizing effort from at every level to do this,
so it's hard to pin it on any one thing.
But yeah, Texas fo percent increased, Virginia increase. It's it's
just skyrocketing. And when you look at the amount of
you know, we were saying last week, I think something
close to of millennials will definitely vote or we're saying
they're very close to voting, right, they look at now

(39:54):
like sort of the kinds of things that they care about,
and percent of these people surveyed was saying they supp
or to federal jobs guarantee with fifteen dollar an hour
minimum wage and family and paid you know, sick leave,
and you know, increasing support for Medicare for all and
more public university tuition funding and things like that. So
these are like, you know, you're starting to see what

(40:14):
the values are of this generation. It's more about you know,
being able to have a decent wage, have access to healthcare,
have access to education, and it's not like, hey, we
need to gut social Security or something some other stuff
like that, which is more the existing establishment conservative ideology
that's in the White House in Congress. Yeah, and you
are a Shahiti, the actress from Blackish who just turned

(40:38):
eighteen in February and has been out there registering people.
Her age to vote is another kind of inspiring story.
So maybe it's just like the people younger than millennials
are about. Yeah, we've got to come up with a
new name because gen Zah. Yeah. Yeah. And when I
would saying come up with I mean, tell me what
the name or just stop calling them millennials because they

(41:03):
aren't the millennials seem to be the ones we made
fun of five eight years ago being lazy. No good, Yeah,
well not you, because you're clearly not representing the generalization
I'm talking about. But this gen z Um is exciting

(41:23):
as hell quite frankly. Yeah, no, absolutely, all right, we're
gonna take another quick break and we didn't talk about it,
and then we'll talk about and we're back and miles.

(41:45):
We're talking black metal music for metal, not metal for dark. Yes,
have you ever been to a UK record store where
just like Rapp and R and B are just titled
black music no swear to go, I mean back in
two thousand, oh cool, but the entire section of record
store was called over at the h MV. Yeah, well no,

(42:09):
there was a researcher who was trying to figure out
like what the appeal was of black metal music because
it's sort of the same thinking of like how violent
video games people like, well, these are gonna make people violent, right,
so if you're listening to black metal, you're probably an
agro murderer because that's what the thematically, what the music
is around. So you know, he decided to kind of
do a not the most scientifically sound study because it's

(42:31):
a lot of self reporting, but he got a group
of non black metal fans in a group of black
metal fans, uh self described black metal fans to take
a listen to some tracks and see how they felt after.
And some of the tracks that they were listening to
where songs like Slowly We Wrought by Obituary, Waiting for
the Screams by Autopsy and obviously the cannibal corpse fucking

(42:52):
classic hammer smashed face. If you remember in ace Ventura,
the first movie, when he goes to a concert when
he's meeting the dude where he has to do with
a New England clam chowder code. He's at a he's
at a metal show. That's cannibal corpse plan. Yeah. Anyway,
so he found that after these people listen to the
music that you know, the non fans are like, it
just sounds like people screaming because they're whiny and hate

(43:14):
their parents, sort of like they were put off by
the music, where the actual fans they report experiencing feelings
of empowerment, joy, peace, and transcendence. Uh. And so he
was and it wasn't like it had nothing to do
with anger attention. They never felt like that at all.
And he was sort of scratching his head and was wondering, Okay, then,
like the appeal of it must be sort of that

(43:34):
the fact that the lyrics are so aggressive and pronounced
that it's very divisive, so you're either going to love
it or you're gonna hate it. And he found that
a lot of the fans of black metal already nonconformists,
so the fact that people who like it helped sort
of self define them a bit more like they can
wear it as a badge of honor. It's like, yeah,
this music appeals to me, and I'm not interested in
that music. And to him, that's what he thought the

(43:56):
appeal was of metal. I mean, it's just just heavy music,
you know, wants your head to explore, something about a
numbing effect that might bring on a peaceful feeling. That
the music is more aggressive, loud, and angry than you
could ever be. So therefore it sort of calms you
because you thought you were aggressive and angry and now

(44:17):
you don't feel as much because this music, yeah, way
more intense than I'm feeling. Really just like sludge like metal,
Like that's slower and wigh, heavier. And those people at
those shows aren't like violently washing, they're more just intensely
just head binged, so you know it. And again, these
are like sounds that people are like custom making instruments

(44:38):
to hit frequencies that are just so low, so heavy
that they'll just make your chest cave in yeah show,
and I mean they're hearing, they're legitimately the sound is
hitting their brain in a different it might as well
be a different sound than the sound hitting our brand
as non fans, and like it's just they're processing it
differently because they have so much context and then know

(45:00):
all the different like they know where each note fits
within the context of all the other black metal they've heard. So, uh,
you have the same debate though about Cardi B. In
my opinion, yeah, well Cardi B. We we happen to
be fans of Cardi B. But my brain I think
that's so the it falls on either side. Yeah, I

(45:20):
think some people are like, what, Yes, I think it's
a very devisive, Yeah, very divided. I mean, how heavy
do you get Jack with your what's the heaviest ship
you listened to? I don't know. I guess like Guns
and Roses and some Metallica would probably, which is like
every fan of black metal, just like scoffed yea, Kevin,
what's the heaviest music you listen to? The heaviest you go, Yeah,

(45:45):
it doesn't really register on the playlist in any way,
shape or form. I much preferred, you know, new wave
from the eighties than the long haired metal band there. Yeah,
way a way more. I'll listen to some torch, you know,
some tar pit carnivore. I don't know, are you making

(46:05):
that up? No? They basically up that kind of says
it all. You're making a carnivore. Yeah, it's amazing song
like the Bassis has a just called the bomb note.
I mean that's evocative tar pit carnivores. I would I
would write out on it, but if you had headphones
it would. You can't even listen to this properly. And

(46:28):
it is what I like it all music. But I
just feel like before you talk about any music negatively,
just realized that everybody says the music they don't like
all sounds the same. Like basically all negative music criticism
all sounds the same. You're all saying the same ship
and it's not true in any objective sense. So like,

(46:49):
just well none of its objective, the exact the thing
about any art form, the most subjective thing. Frankly, Yeah, absolutely,
I don't think less of someone who loves a certain
music that I can't listen to a second of yeah
it's just not for me. Well you're not a shitty person,
because I think a shitty person has the attitude of like,
well you like this and you're an idiot. So fun.

(47:09):
I mean, I feel that way about Dodger fans, but
I don't know. It's nice to be Giants fan. It's
nice of you guys to suit up, yeah, and at
least go to the World Series, unlike your fans who
left in the seventh inning. But anyways, are you Giants fan?
I went to high school with Dave Righetti. We can
finish talking about my my lifelong fanship of San Francisco,

(47:31):
my hometown. Yeah right right, that's what I had, the
starting lineup of Dave Righetti when I was a kid,
because he pushed. He pitched for the Yankees at one point,
you know, hit a rookie year fourth of July. Yeah,
that's true. I had his little these little figurines that
was that popular in the eighties, the sort of photo
realistic ones in the statue, I mean kind of yeah. Yeah,

(47:51):
my Jerry Rice one looks like a fucking I don't
even know. Yeah, he had one huge eye really serving
not not real life, not real life. But the poses
were cool. Yeah. Willie Randolph like fielding a grounder, which
was cool. Yeah. Uh, these are the eighties Yankees that
I liked when I was six years old. Alright, let's

(48:13):
talk about tetris real quick, because this is something that
has It's definitely something I have gotten into to a
point at various points in my life where I closed
my eyes at night and see tetris, like you know
that feeling you get when you ever like on skiing,
or like a bunch of mushrooms. Yeah, we're done a
bunch of mushrooms and they start seeing a boat mushrooms,

(48:37):
the things where you then once you like, you feel
like you're still doing the thing. When I've had that
with tetris, when I play like Guitar Hero or something
like that too, or I'm looking at an old piano
players here in the matrix. Yeah, but this one is
about flow states, and I don't we've talked about flow
states before about just sort of generally activities that take
a little bit of skill require a lot of concentration,

(48:59):
and when you engage in it, sort of time seems
to melt because you're so engrossed in the activity. And
like they call this a flow state, because your mind
is just so in the zone and working on this
task that your anxieties melts away, time melts away. And
so they did a study where they were trying to
see if Tetris could have some sort of effect or
if that flow state had an effect on people who

(49:19):
were in like sort of a state of anxiety. So
the way they sort of did this study was they
got like three college students and said that, uh, they
were going to get like assessed on their attractiveness. Uh.
So they'd go in and they're like, okay, we're gonna
assess your attractiveness. And then while they waited for their results,
they had them play Tetris because they wanted to put
these people in sort of an anxious state to see
how it felt. And then they found that as these

(49:42):
people who were waiting for uncertain or potentially life altering news,
that this flow inducing game could help them cope. Now,
it wasn't like that every single person was like, oh
my god, I'm I'm I feel amazing, but they did
find like that the group that was playing Tetris in
a way that put them in the flow state, they
scored like a measure a few points higher than everyone
else in terms of positive feelings. Afterwards, and after they

(50:05):
told them they were ugly or what did they what
was they could have just asked me through all that trouble,
and I would have said the average brain does not
like chaos that could be and then so I think
this is sort of part of a larger study about
flow states sort of contributing to wellness. And they realized
too that you know, like people who sort of regularly

(50:27):
engage in any kind of flow activity just sort of overtime,
had better stress management skills, had more feelings of positivity,
and they just felt that like tetris was like an
easy way to kind of achieve that. And there's a
book The me Hi Chick Sent Me High is the
name of the neurologist, Yes, who wrote the book Flow
and Finding Flow, which are really great books about flow

(50:48):
state and you realize how you can get it from anything,
like he was sort of going around talking to many
people who had flow states. So some people can get
it from just driving, like some people love going for
drives and it helps clear their minds. Another person would
someone who like at a canary, like just sort of
testing the tops of lids to see if things were
properly in there, and could just tell from the tone,
like what if you had to pull a can off

(51:09):
a line and that was like a flow state where
this person was in it and his sort of his
or overall sense of well being was super high because
every day he was just in this highly engaged state.
And they show that it's different for all people, and
the sort of point was for everyone to sort of
beging to identify what that could be for you, like
it could be rock climbing or anything, or playing video games,
but that it's important to sort of keep your head

(51:30):
in that space. I got a good one. Clean your
fucking house, yeah, yeah, do the dishes, clean the counters, yeah,
re uh, structure your closet space. You will find nirvana. Right.
There's nothing like that moment when you sit down though,
after you clean a bunch of ship and you're like,
holy ship. Yeah yeah. I feel like a sense of

(51:51):
accomplishment and removing clutter and chaos is ultimately what all
humans are searching for but too fucking lazy to to
actually incorporate into their daily lots. Do you kind of
yo yo with your tidiness or you sort of always
on the ball. I love a clean counter, yeah yeah,
and I don't you don't hate the studio. I don't know.

(52:12):
I'm okay around other people's non clean and it's not
really no CD thing because I don't feel it in
any other place in life. Like when I come in here,
I hadn't even noticed the clutter until you said something.
And I still don't really see serious clutter, you know
what I mean. So in my own house, I just
I really do find myself regularly, you know, like it's

(52:36):
a daily thing that I'm I like to remove chaos
there you go. Yeah, and not just in the house,
but just in life, whether it's cutting friends that are
quicksand you know, it's another form of removing chaos. Yeah.
And puzzles are another thing that I know is making
a big comeback. And coloring books. Coloring books so much

(52:59):
that just mentioned it, I think on SNL or something
inside the lines and just just and but I think,
I guess, yeah, Kevin, you were talking about order like
being and you know those are literally puzzles or like
putting a picture in order from from chaos into order.
And I agree. So like I've had these moments where

(53:21):
I've played even iPhone games that where I've been like, well,
I just like three hours just disappeared like that, like
I had no idea where it went, and believe it, Yeah,
where my kids Sarah's left, She's left the note that
she's gone to her years. Yeah, but I don't know.
I I do feel better after I've done that with

(53:43):
something productive, like cleaning your head, Like I feel bad
after I've spent a bunch of time just playing a
game that hasn't done anything other than like just made
time melt away. You might have felt better during those
three hours when your brain drifted away, but you're saying
when you finished, ye sense, yeah, guilt and yeah, well
then you got to find something, you know, either real,

(54:04):
you know, re contextualized relationship with that game, or find
a thing that doesn't feel like empty calories right clean. Yeah, No,
I think I think cleaning is a great one. Get
yourself a swift or wet chet. Yeah, you know, feel
a little bit like click that the all time great
Adam Sandler comedy where by the way, we'll we'll talk
tomorrow about the Adam Sandler we we didn't have time

(54:25):
to get to it today, but the Adam Sandler Netflix
special is wonderful. Something else. I was there for some
of the rep because we took Tic Friends Theater. The
Donasty Typewriter he recorded I think four nights there and
we were there one night and oh man, it was magical. Yeah,
it really It's like going back twenty years and just

(54:46):
I felt like I was in high school again. But
all right, we'll talk about a little bit more about
that tomorrow. But Kevin, while we're on the subject, You're funny.
While we're on the subject of funny, h thank you
first of all for being with this and what can
you tell our listeners. Usually we ask our guests for
a tweet that they've been enjoying, but I want to
ask you to talk a little bit about your new

(55:08):
comedy podcast on the How Stuff Works Network, Executive produced
by one Chuck Bryant, who I know our audience loves.
Tell us about it. What what it is? Well, if
you've ever been to a great improv show, I say
great because they're arguably very few things worse than bad
and bad improv show. So I've been around the improv

(55:32):
and sketch world a long time. I started at as
a stand up comedian, and so I've always been I
have found more alive in a comedy situation and laughing
involuntarily and uncontrollably when people were fast, uh and and
fearless while improvising. I mean I shared the stage in

(55:54):
my early days with Robin Williams and doing that very
thing he I and Rick Overton. Rick Overton I were
the two Brownies and Willow. Um so when we were
shooting that we were up in northern California, we would,
you know, get on stage with Robin and improviser stuff.
And I always found myself sort of drifting up stage

(56:14):
while Rick and Robin soared through the universe, and I
was more witnessed than participant because they were both just
so fucking fast. So there's this place where near where
I lived, the West Side Comedy Theater on the third
three Promenade, and there's great improvince sketch shows there and
some stand up shows as well, and um so I
started sort of collecting in my mind four or five

(56:36):
of these brilliant improvisers and thinking when what in terms
I might do with them, And after experimenting in a
couple of ways, I decided finally to be the puppet
master of a podcast wherein the five of them and
I would sit around this very table and I would
have created twisted, weird scenarios, previously written them down, hand

(57:01):
them out at the last second before we set out
to bring these scenarios to life. And they're just uh
thoroughbred phenomens at fast, fearless, improvising. And it's some I
you know, challenge or beg depending on the situation. Just

(57:22):
give it a listen, give give like twenty minutes of
your life to one episode. And and I you know,
I'm very, very opinionated about what's funny and what isn't,
having spent my entire life since age ten performing in
front of people to elicit laughter. I directed a documentary
um that premiered Sundance a few years ago called Misery

(57:45):
Loved Comedy, wherein I interviewed sixty annoyingly famous funny people
with the thesis, do you have to be miserable to
be funny? What do you find out you don't? You
you have to have experienced any art painter or writer,
a novelist, you know, a musician, a poet. You have
to experience a misery. But then you have to figure

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out a way to articulate it so that it's so
personal the audience is filled with empathy, or it's so universal.
Even when Jerry Seinfeld talks about a sock missing from
his dryer. That is a form of misery in that case,
so universal literacy and goes whole ship too. So anyways,
but really the bigger overview is I'm a really hard laugh.

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It's very very difficult. I've just seen too much. So
when I'm I guess I'm just trying to lend a
little more credibility to these five performers are insanely funny,
fast and fearless. So it's called Alchemy this. It's only
been around for I think our third or fourth episode

(58:50):
just drop its every Thursday and fourth episode. We just
broke the top two hundred, which first show that's only
been around four weeks with just starting to get out
and promoted, you know, initially it's just promoted on Twitter,
Twitter and whatnot, and um just now getting around to
uh to talk about it on other podcasts like yours
and thanks for having me. But Alchemy this again. I

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set up these scenarios and these insanely talented people make
funny shit up as in the moment and it's it is, uh, dark, weird,
funny stuff totally. Alright. Well, so what we're gonna do
is we're gonna drop a trailer for the show at
the end of this episode, So guys stick around to
listen to the trailer for Alchemy this. I think one

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of them is the the Where's Jesus? And it also
involves the third Thanksgiving. I thought it would be fun
second just to go back to the second or third
where you know the Native Americans or Indigenous people were,
you know, they're just starting to Oh man, these people

(59:57):
aren't going right. They really think we want to yeah? Uh?
And where can people find you other than Alchemy this?
Do you have a Twitter hand? Oh? So? Uh? You
know at Kevin Pollock on Twitter? Uh? Super lame name
for Instagram. Kevin Pollock won to three and second season
and Marvelous Mrs masal drops in December five. We just

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as I said at the top, one a bunch of Emmy's,
including best Show first time at the big contest show
called the Emmy's and yeah one Golden Gloves and Peabody
Awards and all that. It's the creators and show owners
and writers from Gilmore Girls and they just write brilliant

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dialogue and characters and there's no way to fund this
one up. And people we used the word that you
guys are named for um and if you can tap
into the zeitgeist of what people are watching these days
with I think six hundred scripted shows now between all
the various portals and dreaming. I know, yes, the fact

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that you can get anyone to talk about a show
you're on is a mirror. You know. I'm doing another
episode of my chat show of this other podcast I've
been doing night March will be ten years old, and
I have Benley, this great Australian musician who has a
couple of songs, and Lena Dunham's new show Camping. And

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I was thinking as I was prepping for that, because
I'm on my way to do that after this. Um,
how many people are talking about Lena Dunham's new show,
you know what I mean? That's how loud the noises
Now that every new show is trying to break through,
there's no way to catch up. But people are super
excited about a show. They can't wait for it to
come back. Another show on Amazon. I'm insane fan of it. Drops.

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I think this weekend is called Patriot. Oh yeah, we've heard.
It's like Wes Anderson and the Cohen Brothers got together
and decided to do a dark, weird espie it's hilarious.
But yeah, I think a c a like just hit
man who like loves folk seeking. Well, he's super depressed

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it starts writing songs about his missions and they have
to break it and stop him, and he right and
like it has to Anyway, It's amazing because you're also
seeing him having to navigate, like lying about having an
expertise in a field where that he clearly knows nothing about,
just struggling with I had Courtwood Smith on the Chat show,
the guy that plays basically the villain from the corporation

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that makes the piping and talking about it. That was
a good episode of the Chat show recently. Anyway, those
are the things I guess I would play. All right, Well,
thank you for being with us, Miles. Where can people
find you? Follow you? You can find me on Twitter
and Instagram at Miles of Gray, g r a Y
And a tweet that I like comes from at Rain

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Guardians Lizzie McGuire. Hate account is the explain name uh
and it's just basically a screen grab of like a
YouTube thumbnail for like it has a one in in
a nun's habit uh and it says thirteen hundreds a
D A s m R. None takes care of you
in bed, and then in parentheses, you have the plague.

(01:03:13):
That's so great, you have the plague, but it makes
your spine tingled. Yeah, uh tweet I enjoyed. Jensen Carp
retweeted Tommy Lauren, who tweeted, let's be clear, I'm not
with Taylor and I'm not with Kan yet. I'm not

(01:03:35):
for celebrities that pop off of ship they don't understand period,
and Jensen Carp tweeted, I have bad news for you
regarding the presidents, which it's just so I mean, he
didn't even need to tweet that. It's just crazy that
she tweeted that, and then a partner on Charlotte tweeted,
I wish you could mark obsessing negative thoughts as spam,
which I liked and identified with. You can call me

(01:03:56):
on Twitter at Jack Underscore Brian. You can follow us
on Twitter at daily Zeitgeis. Were at the Daily Zeitgeis
on Instagram. We have Facebook fanpage and a website, Daily's
i guess dot Com, where we post our episodes and
our foot note. We link off to the information that
we talked about today's episode, as well as the song
we ride out on my Old Blue Song. This is
a track from Sudan Archives, which is actually an l

(01:04:19):
A based us like a violinist vocalist on Stone's Throw
and her music just really interesting, has all kinds of
like African influence and just from her experience as a
violin is vocalist. This track is called non for Sale
n O nt for Sale and again it's just great vocals,
great style. Uh and yeah, just enjoy this from Student Archives.

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All right, we're gonna write out on that and then
we'll have a special preview of the alchemy this trailer. Uh.
We will be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast.
We'll talk to you guys then about you only call

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me when your knee something. I need to be free.
Time to spread out means I don't like lee. Just
all that time since gonna get back with you, don't
get time for snitches. You're pulling me down. About you

(01:05:30):
as my sister. My strings propagate through space and time
here and there at the same time. And the men
just in base crime, you ain't gotta be man like
deep go Hio when you climb to stay out of
my bed, stay out of my flame. Welcome back, to alchemy.

(01:05:50):
This on your host, Kevin poll Yes that Kevin Pollock,
what's that? Yes? I know, I said, I was ready
to buy the car. I'm just not sweet listeners. Over
the years, I've been crazy lucky to see my fair
share of true alchemy. By definition, alchemy is quote when
a person creates something through a seemingly magical process and
you lovely dingleberries. Like I said, I've been witnessed to

(01:06:12):
the stuff on several occasions. An example, you asked, okay
when separated, only fifty of Sonny and Share had undeniable
tell speaking of which, not too long ago, while having
my conscious scraped and rinsed, the idea hit me. What
if I brought together the right creative people and asked
them to make shut up based on my own twisted,
demented ideas, then offered a podcast of this seemingly magical

(01:06:36):
process and I could call it alchemy? Why can't you
be more like your brother? Well, after a bit of
title tinkering, I'm so very proud to welcome you, dear friends,
to another episode of alchemy. This take a photo. I'm
gonna get a photo of this. Hey, get away from
get back away, Please to see the tape. Photos? No photos? Okay,
what do you what do you see? What do you like?

(01:06:56):
What do you don't like about this? I don't like
anything about it? All right, Well i'll tell you what
I noticed right away. Cigarettes still lit? Yeah, that's strange, Peterson,
you've got you've got a holmesy and I for detail. Well,
I studied under the grade Sherlock Holmes. No you that
was my cigarette? Can I have that back? I misunderstood.

(01:07:18):
I thought it was in Oh no, I left it there.
Oh yeah, like a holder. He thought the dead guy's
two fingers would help hold your I was taken aback
by the whole thing. I wasn't thinking clearly. Tell us
your name again, your waitress, Well, I'm also the floor manager.
But yes, Turla, how do you how do you spell

(01:07:39):
it tu r l A H the traditional? Yes? Correct?
I'm very shaken. And do you remember this particular patron
from inside at dinner earlier? You know I do remember
that because I as a floor manager, I'm very adapted.
I remembering people's faces, remembering I interact is he wanted

(01:08:01):
his eggs over easy? I said, that's not gonna be
a problem. Unfortunately, was the problem. He's having eggs late
at night. That's correct. We start breakfast all days. A
great men. You um probabteen is good for you. You know,
uh you said it would ended up being a problem
the eggs. Well, yes, not on my problem. But Frank
in the kitchen he doesn't fucking understand things. So I

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said over easy, and he fuked it up. Frankie, want
to answer to that? You know it's oh my god,
I speaking for myself. Okay, No, you can speak for yourself.
I just want to warn them they have made the
biggest mistake of their lives. Do not get your notepads
out for this attection. You're gonna want to take show
his nose down. All right. First off, if you guys
have a hungry late night, come over to my house.

(01:08:45):
When to your house? Have alight? Alright, alright, alright? Over
statement kind of kind of move like move around, you
know what I mean? Between situations, right, A little bit
between a lot of situations, you know what I mean.
I don't feel we're getting straight answer from me, Frank
Come on, man, let me just tell you. What are
you the cook here? Yeah? Okay? And so when the

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eggs ordered, what was the problem one is very interested
to hear this. Thank you, Detective. I've been asking him
that as well. My question is always like, oval, what
you know what I'm saying? It's like over easy. He's like,
all right, but over what you know? What I mean?
You're easy? Is the answer to Peterson. Can I talk
to you by the dumpster? For sure? I like Frank

(01:09:26):
for this? Do you like Frank for this? So far? Okay?
I feel so little early. I feel like, look, I
know it's early, but I get hunches. You know me
and my hunches. You you learned under me, My friend,
you're trained done to me. There's a couple of other
fellas out there that I'd like to ask, a couple
of how many times of my hunches probably write down

(01:09:46):
it's Frank? Or how many times have we at least
frame someone based on a hunch that I have. I
want to say that sold excuse me, excuse me, officers, Yes, detective,
we're both detect My name is Bobby. This is my
twin brother, Robbie. Um, we saw some things, but we're
not supposed to not here. We can't be here. Bobby

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and Robbie, though both derivative of the name Roberts. So
we're both named Robert. Well I was, I was. They
weren't expecting twins, so they only had one name preparative
but things, but we can't um really tell you because
we're not supposed to be outso late. No, this is
way pastor or curfew. Yeah. I got the time of
death at four am. So my first question would be

(01:10:31):
what were you two kids doing? Eating? Eating eating, only eating,
just eating food in a round in the diner, outside
the diner. But it was which one is Bobby? I'm Robbie. Okay,
I'm Bobby. Sure problems excuse me? Are they giving you problems?

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These kids? Turler? Do you remember these two? Oh? Yes,
I remember them? Hello Robert. Uh yeah, they've been out
side scrounging. They're always scrounding. By that, of course you
mean scrounging. You know there's grounding grounges. We got a
good home life? Oh well, I'm very very sad to

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hear that none of us have a good home life.
Can we all agree? Peterson? Can I talk to you
about excuse excuse us? Absolutely? I like Robbie for this.
What do you think I'm writing it down? Okay, write
it down? I'm not sure which one is Robbie to
be like Robbie for this. It's definitely not Bobby. We
can rule him out.