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In episode 561, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Steven Wilber to discuss the new 'Papadia' from Papa John's, Trump's Iowa rally, the gig-economy, Taylor Swift getting political in her music, Elon Musk's new EDM track, and more!

FOOTNOTES:

1. Papa John’s debuts Shaquille O’Neal-approved flatbread sandwich, ‘Papadia’
2. In Iowa, Trump threatens his fans that their farms will “go to hell” if he isn’t re-elected.
3. “You’re going to make so much money” — This is the language of a mob boss, not a president
4. TRUMP: "They want to kill our cows. That means you're next."
5. The Help
6. Taylor Swift’s New Song ‘Only the Young’ Encourages Fans to Get Political
7. Elon Musk just dropped an EDM track on SoundCloud
8. Don't Doubt ur Vibe - Emo G Records
9. WATCH: KAYTRANADA - The Worst In Me (Audio) ft. Tinashe

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to the season one nineteen,
episode one Up Thursday. Yeah, a production of I Hear Radio.
This is the podcast where we take a deep dive
into the America's share couch this. Oh man, guys, this
is off to a bad start already, but we do
say officially off the top, fuck the Coach Brothers and

(00:20):
Buck Fox News. It's Monday, February three. Happy February everyone.
My name is Jack O'Brien a k oh Brian oh
oh oh oh. It's courtesy of Emelio Gomez and the
Who which is what that was supposed to be? Uh?
And I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my
co host Mr Miles Right crow, It's like show to

(00:47):
sen up the box seat, taken up seat, eats off
this Collie wet It's a podcast, plunt Okay. I wish
there was a whole backing band to that, but I
think we all know that was blitzcreen Op. Thank you too,
Han Soul. Sorry it froze up. I was going to
do the whole percussion section and are you gonna done
air guitars or something. Just don't leave me out there

(01:07):
in a sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry anyway, Shout out
to you Hannah for that one. And uh yeah, shout
outs everybody who came to the Portland show. We still
we're still living off the vibes off that show. Still
on Monday, we are still living off that was That
was a great shows, live show we've done. And also
Happy Black History Months. Yes, yes, and then we also

(01:30):
got more live shows, so we got more live show.
You don't want to be like people. Also shout out
to the woman Veronica who got scammed on Facebook someone's
soldier like fake ticket, fake ticket show. Also thank you
though printed on a cracker like in the Simpsons. Yeah,
well there's no such thing as the spun goes h Yeah.

(01:52):
We still have shows in Brooklyn at the Bellhouse on
February twelfth, Washington, d C. February at the Miracle Theater,
Minie Bliss February at the Parkway Theater, Chicago February seven
at Sleeping Village, and of course Toronto the Grand Finale
February at the Great Hall. Uh as they all, as

(02:14):
all Toronto locals know it as the right, Yeah as
you guys, like, do they even call it Toronto? Do
you even know it as Toronto in Toronto or is
it all just hey man? Whatever the six is Toronto.
We've reduced an entire city to one rapper, the most
authentic representation of Toronto. U yes, uh yeah. Free tickets.

(02:37):
Go to Daily Zeitgeist dot com and go to live
appearances tab, which is hard to find, but you can
just scroll down look for it. It's in the main nav.
If you mean it, if you love us, you'll find it.
You will find it. We are thrilled to be joined
for the first time on the Daily Zeitgeist. But one
of my favorite guests from the Cracked days. He's a

(02:59):
very any comedian. He is Mr Stephen Wilbur Um Uh
cut my life into Stevens. This is my last Wilbur
was amazing. Man h Graham. I'm Grandpapa Road, Grandpapa Happy Roach.

(03:23):
And you were saying, you're saying before, you're saying before
we start recording. That isn't even your favorite song. That
song is just for like the people, but like the
real heads. No, you're like Papa Roach, the deep cut
Papa Roach, I love man Uh blister um sun scorched scar.

(03:49):
Are those real things? Sure? Probably? Uh, Stephen, you live
in Portland, Yes, Land of Lincoln. It's known how you've
been up here for a couple of years. Now, how's
it going? That's going? Okay? One of my favorite K

(04:09):
pop superstars was at Blazers game the other night and
I didn't know about it, and I'm kind of missed
about that. But other otherwise I'm doing okay. Who's the
K pop superstar? G Dragon from from Big Bang Damn? Yeah,
and I'm missed. Are you a big Blazers fam just

(04:30):
Big Dragon? Yeah? Black Pink was in the lobby earlier today.
You just missed him. You're probably kicking what He just
burst into tears, just burst into flakes. All Right, we're
gonna get to know you even better in a moment. First,
we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of things. We're
talking about. Papa John's has a new a new innovation,

(04:52):
uh that post post check innovation, shack Era, Finally Big
Pop Energy. We're gonna talk about Trump rallies. They're just
basically him threatening people now. It seems like the equivalent
of wagging of fish and anger at a room full
of people. Right, We're gonna talk about the gig economy,

(05:16):
which I mean can't be beat. We're all big fans.
We're going to talk about Taylor Swift. Who is the
new Zack de La Rocca de Larosia Rocca. How do
you kim Taylor Swift the new Zack de La Rocca? Uh,
Elon Musk has a new E d M track. Um,

(05:38):
all of that and plenty more. But first, Stephen, we
like task our guests, what is something from your search
history that is revealing about who you are? Everything? That's
a talking point today because I'm freaking out over over
all of this, uh, doing the podcasts and stuff. So
I I furiously like am on my phone like the

(06:00):
Trump said, what like? Because I am? I am not
normally a a current events fellow current events fellow. Like
the first rule of being on this show is you
gotta love cake first the band. Yeah, okay, well, thanks
Hannah for telling me that. Recite the first lyrics, the
first lyrics of the distance, please or you have to

(06:21):
get out reluctantly. Craft I have gotten that is he gonna?
What's something you think is over it? What's overrated? Okay?
Welcome to Hot Take Corner with ste You and Wild.

(06:43):
We're French fries are overrated overrated. Go on, they're not
The juice is not worth the squeeze. With French fries,
I think they're their vessels. They're they're catchup vessels basically,
and they're they get cold way too fast, and it's

(07:03):
it's never worth it for me. If if those if
those brain boxes at CERN can invent a French fry
that stays warm over over five minutes, then we can
loop back. But they're they're not worth it. It's a
it's a location based food. You know that they don't
travel well. They know the best moments are when you're

(07:25):
at a location eating them. As someone who sadly had
to eat a Filetl fish sandwich at one in the
morning last night and it got older fries. Yeah, look,
oh my god, that was really out here, Like I
need this filet fish bro never postmates a burger and fries. Yeah,
that's like the never it never holds. And yet I

(07:50):
disagree with that take. The French fries are over It
actually probably compelling kids, like are you like, think about
the greatest French fries you've had, and then think about
all the French fries you've had. What's the percentage of
great French fries is just this is filler for my meal.
Fries at barbar were pretty good. Yeah, they weren't bad.

(08:11):
I'm going to shout out to ladies, Night Barbar. It's
bad bar Night Barbar. What is something you think is underrated?
Spiders go off, go off? Please go okay, tell me

(08:35):
about it. And when I get a when I get
a spider on me, I freak out. I like your scrint,
like I jump, but I would rather for how infrequent
that happens. I would rather have that happen than like
constant buzzing of flies or a little mosquito knocking on
my nose, and and spiders help prevent that. Yeah, I

(08:59):
appreciate you're versionship to mosquitoes, by the way, different than
mine because never knock all my nose. Yeah. They just
one of the people who acts as the like you're
the distraction for other people because you're getting all the bites.
Well I'm not. My wife was actually, oh that's me.
They like people are like, hey, mole's come over here,

(09:20):
and just all the mosquitoes bite me instead of them.
My wife and my firstborn are both the like just
complete mosquito magnets, and me and my youngest are just
like over here partying. Yeah, you swap your wife's perfume
with sugar water. Yeah, that's right. It's like it's like
the equivalent of using someone as a human shield from mosquitoes,

(09:43):
Like why do you just keep sucking those jolly ranswers
and spitting into that bottle? Just eat up and I'll
tell you what. Spiders just because they kill pests, Yeah,
I think they look creepy, sure, but I think they're
went a lot of good behind the scenes. Don't appreciate

(10:03):
they're also just ingenious, Like they're one of the most
amazing things in nature. Like it, if I had to
watch a three hour nature documentary about any subject, like
made by a really good documentary filmmaker, spiders will probably
be the subject. You think about that if you go
if they're good as it's brought up. But I'm saying,

(10:24):
but now you say, like I need a what what about?
Just like the webs at Cracks we wrote about the webs,
we wrote about a lot of different animals and parts
of nature, and spiders are just ingenious killing machines. They're
like so amazingly advanced and like engineered just to hunt.

(10:48):
And there's like it's really easy to just like put
uh to anthropomorphize them and be like, so, what blows
wind up your skirt about spiders our ability to murder? Well, yeah,
I think I think you know, as somebody who was
raised on slasher movies, like, yeah, I I who like

(11:13):
grew up watching Jason movies and was like generally, genuinely
I am jealous of kids now for having like the
internet so they can just watch all the Jason Kills compilations. Right,
you would have just rather watched that then, Yeah, I
mean it's sick, Like, I don't know, it's not a
good thing. American culture has fucking destroyed me. But uh,

(11:38):
with the movie a recnophobia, uh not really weird? Yeah yeah,
I don't know. We Uh it seems like a bit
of a tourist tourist, Yeah, but watching them close up
really terrifying and cool. University of Richmond Spiders fan. Oh yeah,

(12:00):
now that now you're talking about language. Brother, I only
have a T shirt. I say this all the time.
I wanted about I need the jersey because their their mascots,
the spiders. So like just seeing a basketball jersey that
says spiders on the front is just fucking amazing to me.
What what's the Australian term. I'm not here to fox
not here to fox spiders. It's true, I'm not yeah spiders.

(12:26):
What I'm here that not fox spiders and chew gum
and I'm all out of so uh And finally, what
is a myth? Stephen? What's something people think it's true,
you know, to be false or vice versa, something people
think it's false you know to be true. What's the
thing Icarus? Okay, that it didn't happen, that is you're

(12:49):
the second person to point that out. Kind of a
weird story. Hard to believe at me. I don't give
a funk. Don't at me. I don't want that smoke.
I'm not into icarous erasure. Um. You know it didn't
have smoke that wax wings. Alright, let's talk about Papa

(13:11):
John finally, okay, so do you remember in August we
talked about that quote unquote secret video she took when
he went to like a board meeting of Papacy chef
I'm in the room meeting and it was the most
produced thing that you've ever seen. And clearly there was
a thing that they were alluding to called a papa dia, Like,

(13:33):
what the fuck is this now? Hark and behold death
it is the papadilla has arrived. And it looks like,
I don't a flat bread it looks like a soft
taco molita kind of thing. It looks like a taco bell. Uh.
Just they wanted to know off top, this is not
a rip off of the Casa dia, Okay. It's actually

(13:57):
it's called the papada. Yeah, but it's not a take
on that, okay. It's actually inspired by the pia dina,
an Italian flatbread sandwich from the historic Romagna area of
northern Italy. Okay. So even though it sounds phonetically more
like case idea, God forbid, Papa John's associate themselves with

(14:18):
Mexican cuisine. They're just getting over a racism pr problem,
and they're like, it's not from it's from the old country.
Wouldn't it be papadina, pa papadina now, because then they're
gonna be like that, maybe that didn't test well, you
know how they fucking you know how they It's meant
explicitly papa papilla. The alliterative quality of that name, that

(14:44):
word I think really papapilla, Pia papa. Whoa, that's the thing,
Mama Mia papapilla. Yeah, that's the thing. That's the thing
that we were saying, like folks folk song from the
old times. Yes, they're offering it like they're they're offering
it in four different varieties. There's Italian with alfredo, spicy

(15:07):
Italian sauce, solami, mozzarella and banana peppers. Good thing that
chefs kiss and came out for the Philly cheese steak.
That one makes more sense when Philly sauce. What's Philly sauce? Chack? Yeah,
probably is, I guess, yeah, I would. If I had

(15:28):
to guess, I would say it is. Mayonnaise is Philly sauce? Well,
just based on every execution of Philly cheese steak that
I've had from a mass And here's the and here's
the mayo. Here's like hot steak, like hot wet steak,
some manner of cheese and mayonnaise which the heat just

(15:49):
turns into translucent grease film like anyway. Then there's if
you're lucky, then they have grilled chicken and bacon, chicken onions, bacon,
montro barbis. Okay, that's straightforward meat. Pepperoni's spicy. That's the
only one that makes sense. Pepperoni pizza sauce, mozzarella, the
Tian seasoning. They have spicy meatballs. I'd work with that one. Actually,
you think it's really gonna be speci spicy though probably not. No, No,

(16:12):
I mean because it's boardroom spicy, which just means like,
oh my god, did you crack some pepper over this right? Hot?
Hot hot for one second? Yeah, I mean, you know,
I think all credit due to like every great American
company knowing, look, we have a racism pr crisis, will
hire a person of color to be the new face,
and all is forgiven. The shout out to check forgetting

(16:34):
the bag. Oh yeah, yeah uh. They definitely definitely an
upgrade from from the sweaty man who's just a wet
what was large, bloated racist? What was his static and
he's like at forty pizzas and thirty days. Yeah, yeah,
I've been having this. Yeah, it was something like I
went to college to what's your point? He was like

(16:58):
talking about it, how as like he's been evaluating them.
He's been doing that as like part of his like
overall commitment to Yeah. It was like, yeah, he's a
part of his job. He just does it as like
a it's a calling. Yeah. I think that's what he
was trying to establish. Yeah, just to keep an eye

(17:20):
on like our pizza offerings like that that we have
as fast food. Does he eat does he eat just
Papa John's branded pizza or is he I think he's
doing deep recon and all the well that I've had
fifty pizzas and thirty days thing was a run up
to him criticizing the Papa John's pizza. So he was
trying to act like, look, I'm not just taking shots

(17:40):
because I'm an angry guy who you know, fired for
a good reasons. I had fifty pizzas in thirty days
and it gave me diarrhea. Something needs to be done.
What's that Papa John crisis? Much? Uh? And he also
in that same interview talked about how a day of
reckoning is coming, which is it was like that it

(18:02):
should be keeping an out. He's sweaty pizza bean, He's
gonna walk out at the super Bowl and after like bombing,
being like, yeah, your day of reckoning is up here.
It has arrived. I've had forty pizzas in terrible Dia
in my weird coat, I was building to forty pizzas
in three days. We need to keep an eye on Papa.

(18:24):
But shout out to Shack and the new Papa John's.
And somewhere in this this article they talk about how
it's because it's not a flatbread thing. They say, we
use Papa John's classic crust that everybody loves to make
this abomination, and so that's just pizza. Come on, we

(18:50):
were doing so good man, I guess what are they
gonna do now? Don't don't bring this truth out into
the light for everyone. I mean, I wonder if they're
making it on a panini press. I don't know either,
the marks on. Yeah, maybe maybe if they grill it
then it would be a little bit different than the
toaster conveyor belt that they send other pizzas. Yeah, a

(19:17):
little more nuance to this idea. Don't say there might
be something different traditional pizza slice. Um, alright, guys, we're
going to take a quick break, during which we will
surely continue to discuss this. Uh, and we'll be right

(19:37):
back hand. We're back, we are, we are everybody doing
what a break? Well, we definitely broke the toilet. Yeah here,
thinking about the policy. Looking at the photo made me

(19:57):
just start farting uncontrollably. Since there's a power to it,
I gotta admit. Uh, let's talk about Trump's rally. He
he heck, he had two rallies last week, and they're
choking me up just thinking about it. The Des Moines
rally on Thursday night. I didn't get a chance to
really look at some of the clips from it going
through it now, Oh my, it's I don't I don't

(20:21):
even know what to think. My head is so spun
from like the lack of like guardrails we have in
d C right now that to just see the president
go out to a place like Des Moines and even
early on in his speech say something like this, Okay,
this is this is gonna play. Okay, well this is
I'm just gonna read this quote first. I have other
ones will listen to his voice, but just just reading

(20:42):
this is absurd. He goes, Look, you know, I could
have made this speech really short. All I have to
do is say, hello, Iowa, you have no choice but
to vote for me. Otherwise everything you have loved in
your entire life will be gone. Goodbye, Iowa have a
good time. Instead, I worked my ass off up here. Okay,
you think this is easy. It's a little hot in

(21:03):
this room. This room wasn't designed for this many people.
What this is very early on his speech, dude, say
goodbye to everything you've ever loved? What the fuck does
that even mean? It's just his Yeah, I don't know
how much the fear based motivation is going to work
these because now it's not like I got I got

(21:25):
it in you know what I mean? But now knowing
what he's what he does with his power, that then
he's like, oh, everything could be gone. It's like I
don't even think we had everything we wanted. So what what? Yeah?
Why would it have worked better in twenty sixteen than
a will Now? I just feel like before the it
was easier to create a like a world as it

(21:46):
could be scenario when he wasn't in power, right, Like,
there's the variable there was that I'm not the president.
Let's see this is what it could be. You know
how fucked everything is? Now like I'm gonna make it better. Cut. Two,
he's empowered. Nothing's better, farm bankrupts, these are up, there's nothing.
And then so now he's like everything could be gone.
They're like, dude, what the funk are you talking about?
Like you didn't even you didn't even get us to

(22:07):
a poor stuff that I did for you because I
could go away, like would nothing happened. It's times like
this that I I would love to be a Republican
because that would have made me so rock hard just
watching him talk like that, that is Yeah, but I'm

(22:28):
on the wrong side. Not I'm on the wrong side.
I'm not on history moment so fucking cool, Like if
you believe that, you're like, yeah, and that's what That's
what terrifies me the most because history has shown that
we vote for the cooler person, right, Yeah, and what's

(22:53):
cooler than threatening you would be a like annihilation of
everything you've known and loved. Well, it's a different type
of cool. Sure, he's like he's got like that that
Don Draper and definitely not the same the Draper, but like, hey,
I'm a monster, but you're still gonna watch me, and

(23:14):
like we don't have anybody that cool. Bernie is like
the closest thing to cool, and he's as cool as
like a rapping grandma, Like whoa you know writer anthem Grandma.
I yeah, he I get it. I I do feel

(23:34):
like this is now a out of control locomotive that
we can't absolutely this is over now like our country,
So something terrible is going to happen because like he
is now officially like doesn't there's no consequences. He knows it,
he's proud of it. He's bragging about the fact that
there's no consequences and he doesn't need to do shit

(23:57):
to like keep people on his side, to continue to
be on his side and a cultural personality, and now
like that's a that's been made official. Yeah, I mean
depending on like whatever the funk is going on with you.
And now he's sort of like he's just got him
on the Dude, you better not, you better not vote

(24:17):
for you better not like listen, this is listen to
this fucking sound bite okay of him telling just tell
me if this would motivate you, and if we don't win,
your farms are going to hell. I can tell you, right, cell, cell,
don't be said sell now. We we love our we

(24:38):
love the farmers, and we love the rancher. We love
the farmers and we love the ranch. Your farms are
gonna go to hell. You know, if we lose now
they seriously love the farmers the ranch love the love
the farmers don't love their sinning farms though, then then
there's even more. Uh, this is just I don't know,

(25:02):
these promises of prosperity or another really interesting obviously great
tactic when you're trying to motivate someone for listening, for
voting for you, but very like organized crime style. You
people are gonna make so much money you're not gonna
do just you know what, Just relax, take it easy,
put it away, enjoy your life. But you're gonna make
a lot of money. You're gonna make a lot of money.

(25:24):
Put what a way? What do you tuck your wiener
back in your pants. You're gonna be fine. You're gonna
make a lot of money and then save it, put
it away, and you're gonna make a lot of money. Folks. Yeah,
I get that part. But what if you're not a
business owner? What does that mean to you? Like I'm

(25:45):
trying to actually put myself I mean, I guess the
very abstract, nebulous version to someone who is like a
worker not a business owner, like is thinking, okay, so
that my company does well maybe I'll have a job
for longer. Is that like what help sell them on
that idea? Whereas I get a business owner, like they
can at least draw like lines to this kind of thinking.

(26:07):
But if you're just barely getting by, well, he's like
cartoon rich guys. So he's like, I have money. I'm
going to make sure you have lots of money. And
what us rich people do with our money, we put
it away and like that's the thing that most people
don't have even like the possibility of So the idea

(26:27):
that like he's just gonna, you know, make it so
you have the ability to like think three steps ahead
is like his is his cartoon rich guy promised. I
mean most people function be like, oh, I'm gonna make
so much money, so you're raising the minimum wage, You're
going to make my healthcare costs lower. So I don't

(26:47):
think you're gonna own a business. But that's the difference.
I think that's the difference in what's motivating people. Like
on some level, there are people who are in tune
with what the idea or even concept of making more
money is like functionally to you as a human being
who walks the earth, like that it's like, actually, that
doesn't happen unless my wages go up, unless my benefits

(27:08):
are better versus like this more like MTV Cribs version,
Like you're gonna be bothering so hard. I mean they're
gonna be like, wow, look at him, he's bothered. He's
a bottle. He made so much money. It's he's not
thinking any deeper than just what what is going to Yeah,
makes sense to somebody who just walked into the room. Yeah,

(27:30):
And I think, but yeah, that's just a messaging thing.
I feel like helps people to like if you can
actually yes, the idea of moment it makes so much
money is great. But like I think the candidates who
are trying to tie that to how that relates to
every person is going to Hopefully that will be the
kind of messaging that wins. But you never know, baby,

(27:51):
because because he can cheat for yeah, like legally now
there's nothing that's gonna stop him. And now, like knowing
we were talking about, there's just the waning power of
conservatives are like this is it, bro, Like, we gotta
hold the fun in here. We're all we're all in
this together, and just one last one because we just
do need to bring up death because it wouldn't be

(28:11):
a Trump rally without that. Here's this other one, you know,
just I think the people of Io who know about,
you know, how farms work, cows, this probably resonated with
them too. Wonderful cows. I love cows. They want to
kill our cows. You know why? Right? You know why?
I don't say they want to kill our cows. That

(28:36):
means you're next, and they want to wipe out totally
Iowa ethanol. They want to wipe it out. Wait, he
said that the Democrats want to kill the killer cows
in your next I don't that seemed pretty clear. Well, personally,
can try, you can. You can kill my cows when

(28:58):
you pry them from my cold dead hands, but you'll
never take our cows. I mean what I don't. I
mean that doesn't like. I guess that's why won't laugh though,
because they know they're being lied too, but they love it.
I think is sort of where we're at. I think, yeah,
there is a weird, morbid sense of humor that you

(29:21):
can kind of feel in this room, like you know,
we're like they laugh nervously too, like because there are
people who like, yeah, there are cows, but then even
though then he's like in your next you like, what
does that even mean? But they laugh because and like
the people's face in their back are like, you get
a load of the scene, now, dude, who's like our
president kind of hilarious to check out. There's like, I

(29:44):
think a meme quality too for some people that are
there also who like agree with him, but also like
they they're into the fucking just the vibes of this place,
and they said the vibes in there were very light
because there was like this feeling of like we did
it the sen trial, the Sham trial being done, or
there was like this relief in there that was if

(30:05):
he did these speeches at WrestleMania, they would have the
exact same vibe and wouldn't feel out in place at all. Right,
right right, they're gonna kill your cow and your next man. Yeah, yeah,
I mean that we should be really we should be

(30:28):
really worried. Though if he says and you're next, and
the crowd went no, fucking whack, then I'd be like,
holy sh it, that thing I brought this board in it? Yeah,
I mean literally, he is a wrestler just fucking wailing
on people with a folding chair when the ref's back

(30:50):
is turned, Like that's the ref in a wrestling match,
like where the you know that is like cartoonishly being
distracted is essentially what the Senate is at this point.
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, like they're not even trying. Well,
the Senate is the wrestler with the chair. The ref

(31:10):
with the back turned is like all of our institutions,
or like maybe more the judicial the judicial branch, right,
like yeah, yeah, we should normally be running ship, but
what do you know? Anyways, we're fucked. Uh speaking of
us being fucked the gig economy. So before everything became

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an app we used to do things like ask a
friend to help us with moving, which was annoying, or
asking people for a ride to the airport, especially annoying
in l A. But that was like a thing you did.
You did favors for people, yeah, easily, and then they
would do favors back to you. And then you would
develop something and they do favors back to you, back

(31:54):
to you. Favor at you do a favor on me, Yeah,
do do me a favor, do three favors? Me, do
a favor on the small on my back. It's changed.
I remember being like, yo, to give me a ride,
I'll smoke you out. You know what I mean. Here,
I'll give you something, help you move, I'll smoke you out. Uh,
take care of my child, I'll smoke about it. But yeah,

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Like now if you know, like you know, cabs and
nanny's and other things like that have existed, but they
used to be only accessible to a certain class. And now, like,
if you have any amount of disposable income, there's a
way to, like whether it's an uber or a task grabbit,
people can start solving problems just by sort of just
throwing money at it. And it makes sense too because

(32:43):
on some level, like you would never expect these people
to just do a favor for a stranger for free,
so there is some kind of monetary exchange. But now,
what would Franz Drescher's star rating be if she was
like a gig Econo nanny? Was she a good nanny?
She was right, and I feel like she was really
there for them. I mean she was definitely unorthodox, but

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I think the love was there absolutely. Um. But there's
like there's a professor on culture and media who's like
writing writing a book that's called uber Worked and underpaid
how workers are disrupting the digital economy. It says, what
used to be friends among favors now has a price
tag to pick up from the airport, hauling closed to laundry,
or helping to pay the apartment. And we are now

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witnessing a financialization of activities that used to be an
expression of social capital, which is interesting because yeah, like
there was this helps create community, right, you know, like
you knew like, oh hell yeah, like that's my friend,
let me help you. I know there will be reciprocity
at some point, but now that we're able to just
sort of be like, I don't want to inconvenience them.

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On some level, these things do help because there are
people who will take advantage of your kindness, and you
can set boundaries and be like, look, I can't do
it because you're trying to take advantage of my kindness
call this person. But at the same time, you do
lose a bit of feeling of connection, where like there
is sort of community to a certain extent. Yeah, I think,

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I mean, we know our neighbor is less than we
used to, which I think is a thing that's been
happening for a while now, but is probably at its peak.
So we're doing this live show that is about like
partially about the tech bubble bursting and like the thing
that seems to be changed, Like there were these companies

(34:28):
like pets dot Com that we're essentially Amazon for pet products,
and now Amazon is the most successful company ever. Amazon
is Amazon for Amazon, Amazon for pet products and everything else.
And the innovation is they've figured out that they can

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just like treat people like ship kind of like behind
the scenes, and as long as we don't see it,
they can like just make that into economies of scale
that they can just like turn into all the money
in the world. I think in the nineties, right, it
was harder to get as many people who would go
for this kind of work because there were still a
lot of jobs available to most people. And then as

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the economy began to get more and more depressed, like
like I think Amazon came about at this perfect time
where now you have people who are like, I'll take
I'll take any kind of work because they're the apps.
Like the wage stagnation and things like this is preventing
people from being able to live properly. So yeah, I
think there the thing about the like knowing your neighbors.

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In the mid seventies, there's a study they say in
the mid seventies, only about twenty of Americans said they
had no interactions with their neighbors. Now it's like over
a third. Yeah, like in increasing more because yeah, most
people are sort of just walled off. I don't know,
it's different. It's a lot different. And even now, like
I try and make a point to talk to my
neighbors because like there's there's something weird about just not

(35:57):
knowing somebody. Yeah, and if like you kind of want
to know, Like you live in a community, you know,
like where ay if you keep an eye out or something.
If you saw some ship like hollyer at me, you're like, oh,
I saw your you know, your package was outside for
two days. I brought that ship in because I don't
know somebody, you know that, Like there's a there's a
benefit to that, But I think it's it's really easy
to not do it. And these apps and things I

(36:17):
think almost make like it makes it easier for us
to forget that those are bonds we kind of need
to maintain we've taken for granted. Well, you're also like
it's a it's a good thing to be more connected
with your neighbors and stuff. But when you're given the

(36:38):
option to be in another community like on Reddit of
people that you know, it's a more vetted, more filtered, uh,
representation of your likes. You're you're naturally gonna want to
be liked rather talk to these people than these people
who could have why oldly different opinions. It's hardy that

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does say, I mean, that's the convenience and stuff, and
the Uber like you're you're yeah, I mean, Uber is
definitely picking convenience. I think it was Jelani cub was
writing about how that, I mean writing about it. He
tweeted that, like the whole you know, policing how much
people tip and like being like, look at this receipt

(37:26):
from this famous person they like barely tipped, and just
how we like that. That whole thing is just companies
transferring the fact that they don't pay their employees enough
onto us. Like Uber was just like, Okay, now there's
a tip button, and you subsidize their wages, right, you
subsidize their wages because we don't pay them enough. And

(37:49):
also there's a incentive structure where they rate you so
like you have to tip them a lot basically, or
else you're gonna get a low rating. But I mean,
at the same time, it's like a service we didn't
used to have. What happens when you I honestly don't
know this what happens when you, the writer have a

(38:11):
low rating on Uber? Do do drivers not pick you up?
Or do they play music you wouldn't like? Or like?
What is the you're canceled? I believe just in general
that you're doesn't have to get like really low though,
and then they put a tweet out and they say
this person is just canceled. Yeah, everyone, I think it
just I think probably at a certain level you might

(38:33):
not be able to use the service. Super producer Anna
Hosny is saying that they also team you up with
drivers who have low ratings. Oh that's why. So so
if you're you're a one star guy, you get a
one star driver? Yeah? Wow. Do you think there's anybody,
either driver or a rider who has one star? Like
I think the lowest I've ever heard of it, like

(38:54):
like four six. Yeah, nobody ever gives like a I
don't don't know. Yeah, it depends, I mean, it takes
I think we've talked about in past episodes what it
takes for you to fully be like I'm gonna funk
your rating up as a driver, like this was actually
fucked up because most of us know, like there is it.
This is where I guess the sense of community does

(39:14):
kick in because you begin to be like, I don't
want to like funk up your money by being like
give you a four star or something like, and I
also three star whatever. It's it's really the decision you're
making when you go from five to four? Is is
it like, do I want to steer this person's life

(39:34):
in a different direction so that they can't make as
much money at this right, so that because they shouldn't
be driving people for a living. Like that's the decision
making process that I would have to make to go
from five to four. Four means you're you've failed, epic,
You failed, and you need to you need to start
thinking about a different career. That's wild, that's right, Yeah,

(39:59):
maybe being you should get the funk off. Well that's what. Yeah,
nobody gives low ratings because we're all it's like that
Black Mirror episode with Bryce Dallas Howard. Is that a
wrestler or an actress? Bryce Dallas Howard in the ring. No,
but it's uh yeah where everyone's just like five stars

(40:20):
and five stars and we're all good. Yeah. Uh anyway,
it's like almost giving you like five stars five stars
are good. Yeah, yeah, cool, that's our new social contract, right, um.
And it's where I do see that, like because it's
weird thinking about like you see. Uh, I've had like
seen like three star or two star reviews for restaurants
on Yelp and been like, yeah, but I want Chinese

(40:42):
right now, Like I'll go. But if I see a
four star rating on Uber, I'm like, well or two
star rated food. Let's let's move on to the next top. Wow.
So you're just willing to like put actual garbage in
your huh yeah, give me that Papa, Yeah that papaia.

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All right, well, we're gonna take a quick break and
we'll be right back. And we're back and it's time
for music corner check all the hottest sounds coming at

(41:27):
you across the air way. That's spicy music, spy spicy
music radio. What we just do this for the rest
of the show, off the rails. Yeah. Uh so, Taylor

(41:48):
Swift is now our rage against the machine. I mean,
you know, she's very She was very a political up
until like maybe a year and a half ago year
in a study, like very explicitly a political. People were like, yo, huge,
you have a huge conservative fan base. Probably can you

(42:11):
say something? And well through the sixteen election she was like,
it's nothing. But it turns out it was because she
just didn't think Hillary was woken off. No, I have
no idea what I mean, she hasn't. Has she explained
that she was, like what was she thinking? I think
she was just didn't. I don't know if she knew,

(42:32):
if she felt responsible to say something, like the responsibility
of having to say something or whatever. But or maybe
they realized maybe it's better marketing. Yes, I think that's
what it was. It used to be possible to sit
this one out, and it became uh, wildly unprofitable for
her to continue to sit it. Well, she's doing fine

(42:53):
in the profit department well now, but she was I
think she was struggling. I do think this was a
smart business decision on her part to like and probably
a studied and carefully chosen decision. I'm sure in the
in the I mean it to us it did very well,
but reputation. Did not do banger, did it? Like? I

(43:17):
don't think so. I don't think so, But I think
it's more happened. I don't think it's really about album
sales anymore so much as it's about like endorsement deals, like, oh,
your their money is coming from live shows. That's that's
where all these artists make their money. Now it's from
selling out stadiums. And I think, you know, I think
she actually does believe these things. But yeah, like at

(43:39):
a certain level, it's like your brand is being managed
by so many stakeholders, like you don't know what to do.
And I think now with her new documentary Miss Americana,
she's got this song called only the Young, and it's
you know, before things had like a political tone, but
now it's the lyrics are like the game was rigged,
the ref got tricked. The wrong ones think they're right,
you were outnumbered this time? Okay, wow, a little bit more.

(44:01):
It'd be a lot harder criticize, or it would be
a lot easier to criticize that if we hadn't just
made the exact same metaphor about the refs being tricked. Yeah,
fuck god, are we stealing from I mean, it's like Simpsons,
She's also the new Simpsons, and that every joke you
try to make Taylor Swifts already made. Right. Yeah. Then
she also says like sort of about mass shootings. You
go to class scared, wondering where the best hiding spot

(44:23):
would be, and the big bad Man and his Big
Bad clan their hands are stained with red. Huh. It's all.
She's got a history of doing these flip flops and
having it go well for her. When remember when she
wasn't on Spotify and like that was a big deal.
People really were upset that her music wasn't on Spotify,

(44:46):
and then when she finally did put it over there,
it was huge. Yeah, when any other band would go
it's like anticipation and then release it. So if she's
like Switzerland on politics, you know, and then goes hard
one way that's gonna make I mean, I think I'm

(45:10):
just glad to see people with audiences try and like
let them know. It's like just so you know, like
I'll try and use whatever platform I have to like
actually have some kind of a message that isn't just
like is Trump that bad? You know what I mean?
Because they're people are could easily be doing that or
saying nothing without realizing how much their fans like care
about what they think or believe. And if that can

(45:32):
help some people, then you know, fine, so be it. Personally.
When I go on stage doing comedy my life's passion,
I I like to say, you heard about that? You
heard this Trump guy? Yeah, those guys. Those guys are
straight up fist. I try to just pepper that and
be like, wow, okay, he took a side and I

(45:54):
appreciate that. Yeah, just off top. I think Trump's a bosa. Okay,
all right, now we'll get into the car and that hair. Hello,
do you ever call him a cheetoh? Because that is funny,
because because they're right, I'd like to call him an orange?
Oh ship oranges are but a blood orange? Or conflict? Uh?

(46:24):
All right? Uh and now onto my favorite new artist.
Uh in the world of E d M. Electronic Rectile
dysfunction Music, is his middle name start with a D. Yeah,
Elon d Musk. Yeah, he changed his display name to
EAT d M. I think maybe he just did that

(46:45):
so it said E d M elon dance musk. Yeah,
he's got a new track out. Okay, what does that mean?
He never had a track before. Oh yeah he did,
remember r I P harambe that you There was that
track that came out a while back. And now he's
back because he has Emo G Records. That was like

(47:06):
his whole thing. Wait, really, I didn't know the side
of Elon Musk oh Man. He dude, this guy's he's
he's he contains most truly um. And then so now
he's got the M music as a music to E
R M. As he dropped this track called Don't Doubt

(47:27):
Your Vibe. Oh my god, it's amazing. He was like
tweeting stuff like I wrote the lyrics and performed the vocals.
And then there's like photos of him in the studio,
you know, like prove it um. And then also when
you see his bio, it says this is so born
sixty nine days after four twenty Um. That's pretty like

(47:48):
that is that true? Though? I don't know, dude, I
don't care. That's stupid. Were the wrong side of history
on this one. It's dumb. But fuck d sixty nine
days after four twenty dude. Bro, So let me just
play a little bit so we can get just catch

(48:08):
a vibe. Don't Doubt Your vibe three eleven is sixty
nine minutes before. Who would have thought, Um, I think
he's right. I think I think he's I think it's true. Wow, damn.
So it's not just clever marketing. No, man, it's not
just clever marketing. It's also true. Here's this is just

(48:28):
a little bit of don't doubt your vibe. Don't What
is that saying? Don't doubt your vibe? What now? Because

(48:50):
it's true? Because it's true, your vibe is true. This
is where it hits. Oh my god, dude, right there, Grimes, Grimes, honey, yea, Crimes, Grimes.
Come listen to this. Listen to this. Listen what I did.
The vocals are just all pitch shifted. Him just saying,

(49:13):
don't doubt your vibe because it's true. I don't even
want that your vibe is true? What if you're what
if your vibe is debilitating anxiety? That's not a good
tip to be like, yeah, that's true. What you're feeling
is real, So identified with when you think about it,
all is really like a message to himself, Elon to
ellen On. You guys have to just be listening to

(49:35):
and if it resonates, fine, if you have like depression,
her anxiety or something. Don't doubt that, Like, don't say, oh,
that's just the poppet I had earlier, you know, So
I I agree with that a little bit strong message.
But what is Grimes doing? I don like one of
our great artists is now Yeah is she? Are they

(49:56):
having your child together? Is that confirmed? That was the
rumor that Yeah, I don't know how much of that
photoshop was photoshop? Um, because she did. She did a
picture of her with a baby floating inside of her. Oh,
Grimes has confirmed pregnancy, thank god. Um. So I wonder

(50:20):
if her doctor has instructed her to stay away from
that music, because that can't be good for the baby.
Grimes is or Elon Musk's right, can't. I would just
be worried about the health of the baby if she
listens to that, because she has like good taste in music,

(50:40):
and then yeah, that child's gonna end up not liking
both their parents. Or could be a warlord. Or it
could be a warlord, a warlord with space X money
and rubies in their pockets, diamonds on the souls of
air slaves. Um, alright, you ever walk in dimonds sold chees,

(51:04):
it's printing comfy really Uh bad traction, unfortunately, Stephen, it
has been a pleasure having you. Where can people uh
follow you? I'm on Twitter at Wilbur with any spelled
that way with the with any you spell wilbur with

(51:26):
it God, I gotta chance it. Twitter and Instagram. Uh,
if you're in Portland, I run a show every Thursday
at Ford Food and Drink called Earthquake Hurricane. You should
go check that out. Uh do you use that voice

(51:46):
to free hot dogs for the kids and balloons? Um?
And is there a tweet you've been enjoying? Uh? Recently Uh,
my boy my haunted Elshiki tweeted about because Jerry Seinfeld
is writing a book and uh just mohunted wrote the

(52:12):
art of What's the Deal? I just what's the deal? Uh? Miles,
where can people find you? Twitter? Instagram at Miles of Gray.
Also on my other podcast for twenty Day Fiance with
Sophia Alexandra. Some tweets I like when is from John Milstein.
It's a screen grab of a text like conversation with

(52:35):
his mom. Uh and it says we love the Internet,
don't we folks? And it's his mom asking, am I
right that you have a tweet that went pretty viral
and he puts a sad face emoji and just says yeah.
And also another one from Blair Saki at Blair Saki Today,
my therapist told me to just quote smoke some weed

(52:55):
and chill out, and I was like, wait, are you
my high school boyfriend? Um? Jack, where can people find you? Oh?
Thank you? Can you find me on Twitter at Jack
Underscore Brian uh and a tweet I've been enjoying. Robert
Schultz tweeted the worst part of being sick has got

(53:15):
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