August 29, 2025 • 71 mins
In episode 1923, Jack and guest co-host Blake Wexler are joined by co-host of Stuff They Don't Want You To Know and Ridiculous History, Ben Bowlin, to discuss… R.I.P. CDC, Gwen Stefani And Blake Shelton Remaking The Wizard Of Oz Isn’t Going Over Well With Anyone and more!
- ‘Total implosion’: How Trump firing of CDC chief Monarez sparked an exodus
- Monarez would not cross ‘red lines’ before she was fired, confidant says
- Tough to swallow: The Trump administration’s approach to food safety gets even worse
- Contemporary ‘Wizard Of Oz’ Series ‘Dorothy’ In Works At Prime Video From Gwen Stefani, Blake Shelton & Creator Gina Matthews
- Gwen Stefani Praised a Tucker Carlson Interview and Now People Think She's MAGA
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Uh speaking of power moves. Uh, my girlfriend is going
to require me to remove this mustache after we record.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Oh yeah, you just grew up for the for the record.
Yeah yeah yeah, sorry, baby, I gotta show you.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
I gotta show up. Guys. You knows.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Exactly of all. Thank her for her sacrifice.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Yes, oh wow, yeah, ultimate sacrifice.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
For your service.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Thank you for your man ma'am, Thank you for your service.
I will stand up when she enters the room, so.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
We should take these hats off.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Sorry, I'm geez sorry.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Yeah, yeah, in the presence of greatness? How long has
it been going on? Are you a fast grower?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Thank you?
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Yeah, like we said, thank you, thank you for Uh
how does why does that sound like the weirdest goddamn euphemism? Yeah,
I'm a fast grower, babe, you fast grower mustache. I
can just focus real hard and have a mustache. By
(01:19):
the end of this episode.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
That's all the veins popping out of your head.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Oh my god, Hello the Internet, and welcome to season four,
oh three, Episode five of Dirty Guys. Ha ha ha
h this production of iHeart Radios Podcasts. We're taking deep
to have into American share consciousness. I was just talking
(01:46):
about how my voice was like failing me this week.
I've noticed, and if I get whatever RFK has from screaming,
like they're just like, oh. The only thing that could
explain this is if every day you just screamed in
a weird German accent for like a couple of seconds.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Except what you're screaming is probably a different type of
German scream than what gave it to him.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Right, that's right, Yeah, we're happening in private meetings. Yes, yes,
it's Friday, August twenty ninth, twenty twenty five, last episode
of August. I would assume, yeah, I don't think we're
recording this weekend, and then it's a long weekend, so
(02:32):
it's gonna be fucking March second, is that right?
Speaker 3 (02:36):
We come back, it might be March March second in
like a lion out like a ham.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
My name is Jack O'Brien AKA. Now I'm not trying
to be rude, but these vaccines be killing you the
way Big Pharma trying to shoot whip feet us up
and you it's the RFK, A mission hot and fresh
pox transmission disease is coming from Bobby. Got every man
in here twitch and that one courtesy of Charles on
(03:08):
We Fromage on the Discord, and courtesy of Kylie Airs
and paulvi Ganalon and our conversation yesterday where we somehow
landed on the uber problematic character of R. S. Kelly.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
Sorry sorry, that's so good. Yeah, I'm so jealous of that.
It's crazy Kelly is Yeah mine as well. Might as
well throw them together. Also great name, Charles on Wei Fromage.
I love the idea that the Ian French chuck e
cheese stands for on whe or n y as I
once pronounced that word on this show.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Anyways, I'm thrilled to be joined as always, uh not
as always thrilled to be joined. We made a personnel change,
we made a that's right, I hit my right arm.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
You're mighty right.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Oh yeah, yeah, I could tell. I could tell. We
ran into each other at the Open. I'm wearing a
US Open hat that I bought there and a big
foam finger that you are I bought there.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
You type so slowly now, because that's stupid.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Finger throw to be joined in our second seat temporarily
by a brilliant comedium writer, actor Coiner of the phrase
plumpers to describe his jacked thighs. Autocorrect keeps trying to
change it to plumbers because it knows that the word
plumpers shouldn't exist. But it's like a curse from another dimension.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
Please welcome by and eyed Phil keeps coming through my
screen every single type that word in.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
The brilliant, the hilarious, the riding of retcumbent bike in
short shorts. It's Blake wax Lis. This is.
Speaker 6 (04:55):
I can't hear anything, all right, well, good, good, good good.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
It was a tear mar getting surgery without an anesthetic.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Voice.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Yeah, it was our Kelly. Yeah it was Kelly. It
was r F Kelly. Blake can explain what it was.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
I kind of want to know. Well, I'll sing it later,
all right.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Cool, It was just piano man. I was started playing
Billy Joel's piano man.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
We can't clipped for the right, Yeah, we got Joel
is all over it.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Billy Joel is a time cop. He can come back
from the future and.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
All he listens to this show to make sure we're
not playing piano man.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
That's what he does.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
He does.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
And finally, and he, by the way, has like spoam
fingered sized fingers on each every single one of his
fingers and that's how he plays the piano so well.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
He does have there's a new documentary about Billy Joel
that is very long and also like it's it's kind
of amazing how much it's like, you know, in like
bad move like bad musician biopics where they'll be like,
and I came to a crossroads, and that's when I
(06:13):
wrote the song Crossroads. I'm I'm referring, of course, to
the Bone Thugs and Harmony, a biopic which is way
Billy Joel, though he keeps being like, so I was,
you know, going to New York on the Hudson river line,
and I wrote It's just like the things are so autobiographical,
(06:36):
just like so directly ripped from his life. He's just
like looking around him writing songs and he's like, so,
I was at this bar where I was the man
who played the piano, and he took some poetic license.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
And someone looked at me and said, what are you
gonna do with that piano? Man?
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Man, man, man, what are you doing here? It turns
out they said that because I was there on the
wrong night. Yes, anyways, I thought it was a good line,
so I just recorded it into the song. But he
does have in addition to giant foam fingers, he has
a vape that is in the shape of a giant cigar.
(07:18):
Did you notice that he's vaping the whole time? But
like with a giant cigar that is just I don't know,
like he's like, you know, what would actually be way
cooler than vaping is smoking a cigar that is essentially a.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Builda but with vape juice in it, not tobacco exactly,
not the thing people smoke cigars because, you know it,
like cigars are only enjoyed because of how thick and
brown they are.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Yea, you know, act like yeah take that freud.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Yeah. It's like sometimes a cigar is just a cigar,
but like sometimes you're going out of your way to
like make it a cigar even though it doesn't have
any like it doesn't need to be a cigar at all.
You just like want a big brown dick shaped thing
in your mouth. Anyways, who does not among who among us?
Blake who among us? We're thrilled to be joined in
(08:11):
our third seat Blake by a writer, one of the
best podcast hosts and executive producers doing it. You know,
I'm from stuff they don't want you to know, you know,
from ridiculous history missing in Arizona. It's Ben Bully.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
You got Ben bull I don't know how long we're
going to go, but thank you for segueing to the
intro from talking about smoking cigars, right, thank you. Yeah,
speaking of big things in your mouth, I guess I'm
a guest for today.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Yeah, whoa the original, big big brown dick shaped thing
in your mouth. It's Ben Bullers.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
That's what my mother always said.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Actually.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
To wake you up.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Yeah, she would shake me as a child. What's up
you guys. It's It's fantastic to hang out. It's phenomenal. Uh,
to see you all again. I was running a little
bit late, which Jack you described as a power move,
and thank you. It was on purpose.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Yeah, of course, and growing and being a grower fast we.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Are, ye, So this is something that we should just
talk about, you know, in the room. Right. Ben has
a very impressive mustache right now.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Oh my gosh. That yeah, how's it going? Oh my god, Blake, Blake.
I thought Jack was doing a bit while we were
off air. No, you're serious about this. Okay, We're going
on the air with it.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Yeah, so I, uh, you don't want to talk about
If you don't want to talk about it, I didn't
like you, you know, if you I just am very
curious how long it took, because very fast. I doesn't
want to do this, but this is the eleventh time
I'm asking. Okay, yeah, yeah, a journalistic trick where I
will just sit here in silence and wait for you
to answer my questions. Love that trick.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
I think it will always work. And what could go wrong? Yeah?
I just got back from some time on the road
and I did that thing that every grown man does
when you have a beard, and I went through while shaving,
I went through all the different pursuonas I could be. Yeah,
the permutations perfect defining facial hair. So this probably took
(10:47):
about a week and a half.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Okay, very very impressive. That is really that is really
a really strong week and a half.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Unfortunately I can't grow chest hair. I have like three
So you think it all just goes through your face.
I think it all goes through the face.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Got rerouted all through your face, all your chest hair growth.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Yes, it's a hair transplant from your upper chest.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
But then in the exact pattern of the upper mustache.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Well, thank you for sharing it with us. I know
you said that going away very soon, but you know
you're a hero, and so is your girlfriend for letting
you like keep it for this length of time.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Oh right, negotiation facial hair negotiations are ongoing, right.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Yeah, take would never cook, Yeah, I would really. Yeah.
I've been married for seventeen years and it is exclusively
because I haven't. I haven't gone back to you know,
my interest in growing mustaches early days.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
If I may, like justin let us witness Jack O'Brien here,
no offense, man, my guy, you look like you get
a four thirty PM shadow after shaving. Yeah, yeah, you
look like it grows pretty quickly.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Yeah, it's a it's a lunch lunchtime shadow. It grows,
it grows fast. Yeah I can. I could focus really
hard and have a mustache by the end of this recording.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Just a vague popping out on and Blake. You've got
the you've got the scientifically proven best form of facial hair,
which is stubble. Right, you got like you got like
the generous stubble which yeah it guys.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Remember, Yeah, it's the facial hair that like I feel
like every famous guy has, like in a movie. Yeah,
it's like I like, kind of I guess I haven't shaved,
but it's like so metigulous and it's like long and
very tight. Yeah, exactly, Like, huh, that's interesting. You haven't
(12:52):
shaved like one part of your face in a while
while other parts. But is that a natural growth?
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Okay, figure I wax my f laser. There's there are
lasers and wax, and that's sick.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
It's all right, that's h well, but we'll see.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Well, we'll get a letter from the Serbian Wax Guild
and they'll be like, guys, yeah, s w G is
a centuries old organization. We do not appreciate being uh
mis portrayed this way. However, if Blake Wexler would like
(13:40):
uh to get you know what I'm thinking now, I've
talked this into free tickets to Serbia.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Blake waxl Yes, great basketball team, great Waxler.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Blake Waxler is what I said. All Right, you win,
always win. I just want to make sure you heard that.
Then we're gonna get to know you a little bit
better the moment. First, we're gonna tell the listeners about
some of the fun news that we're gonna be talking
about today. Hey, speaking of R F. Kelly, things not
going well for Old America. Uh. From our Canadian writer
(14:16):
Jam McNab, I feel like this could have only this
description of this story couldn't have been written by someone
in America because he just opened it up with well
that's not good ellipses. Yeah. Just weeks after being confirmed
CDC head Susan Minaras has been fired for being too
(14:36):
vaccine friendly, So we're gonna talk about that. There's also
some stuff happening with food safety. Have you guys do
you guys do that?
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Do you eat food?
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Because yeah, yeah, yeah, Why is there something if you
leave it out for a while or don't go to
something food that.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
People look out for that, right, Like don't isn't there
people who are supposed to make sure we're.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
There is an invisible network that we hadn't paid much
attention to up to this point, constantly monitoring food and
then like when there is an outbreak of equal I
they would address, they would go out and take it
off the shelves. They would also tell us about it
in a way that I always found I'm like, yeah,
I mean, I'm not going to pay attention, but like
(15:21):
it sounds like you guys are taking care of it,
then you.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Guys got it.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
It's the same thing with the FAA planes, where it's like, right,
I never really thought about planes until this administration. There's
just things that we keep taking for granted that seem
fucking simple and givens, but it just keeps coming up.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
All right, well, so we can't givens.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Robin I like to call it the I like to
call it the worst good news situation, where you know,
you get that official announcement that a thing you haven't
heard of has decided there will be less than four
grams of rat feces in cereal that are now on.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Guys, we've made a big, big break. Oh you know
all that rat shit you've been eating.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
We'll talk about Gwen Stefani and Blake Shelton because they're
remaking The Wizard of Oz as we've been begging them
to do, so we'll talk about that and just uh,
you might not realize it, but Gwen Stefani is kind
of full mega. Now I don't know, like full mega,
but she's like a straight up conservative and apparently has
them for a while all that plenty more, But first, Ben,
(16:28):
we do like to ask our guests, what is something
from your search history that's revealing about who you are?
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Sperm, whale, phonetic alphabet?
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Uh huh? I like you just you stopped listening. You
you're listening, but you stopped after sperm based on your right,
based on the noise you made you creep? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Yeah, yeah. So do you guys have pets? Do you
like animals or are you monsters? Or what's going on?
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Like you're coming at us like you're introducing the concept
of animals to you.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
You can own an animal.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
That sucks? Yeah, well, I love whales specifically, and I'm
becoming more interested in animals and what's going on there?
What's that with them? As I get older?
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Okay, all right, guys, this is the thing working on
a couple of recent recent episodes about the question of
can people talk with animals? You know, we know humans
are animals. They're just kind of stuck up, right, But
instead of talking at or two, your pooch, your dogg o,
(17:52):
your furd feathered or scaly friend, can you speak with them?
Can there be an equal peer to peer conversation or discourse?
This turns out to be pretty crazy because a lot
of the research is under fire, right, Like Coco the
Gorilla is a famous example, or Alex the African gray parrot. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
I thought we were like having conversations about Coco with
Coco the Gorilla.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Right this podcast, right right, Yeah, because uh, you guys
bumped to Robin Williams, I think, and mister Rogers is.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Robin Williams Coca the Gorilla finding out Robin Williams.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Dot Yeah, that's apparently a bit of a confirmation bias
on the behalf of the very well intentioned scientists. No, honestly, however,
I'm waving my hand like I can just sort of say,
these are not the droids you're looking for. Whatever. What
(18:58):
we did find was that in recent quite recent years,
researchers have leveraged large language models algorithms AI per will
Smith to analyze the communication of different types of cetacean,
(19:19):
specifically sperm whales, and it turns out that they might
have a language. So my search history is fucking rocked
and ruined because I had to put the word sperm
into all these research to things and our buddy somewhere
at the n Essay is like, okay, sperm whale, sure, man,
(19:41):
all right, but whales might be able, might have a
language that humans can translate and maybe maybe talk with them.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
Yeah, sperm whales must be even harder to study because
they live so deep in the ocean, right, Like, it
must be hard to listen to them. I'm saying that
as if I'm concerned. God, this is gonna be so
much work going into this.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Well, they got to come up sometime. That's what I
always say. I'm a whaler, I should say that I whales,
and so I just sit there at the surface with
a harpoon saying the sometime brother Millville.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Of podcasts, Yeah, they call you.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
That's so, that's wild that the so when the apes
were doing sign language, was it like the uh like
sign language interpreters who will go behind a speech and like,
actually not no sign language and just be doing like
(20:42):
and we just assume they're actually doing it when just
because we don't speak sign language or happen.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Those folks who are on the forefront of comedy, yes cough,
they could never.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Exactly. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Secondly, you are absolutely correct. The controversy goes into the
concept of interpretation, right like clever Hans, the world's most
famous math horse.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
The math horse, I've heard is purely just like they
were looking at their owner or like the human that
they knew, and like interpreting their faces. That's what they
want me to say.
Speaker 7 (21:23):
Clop clop clop clop. Ver, Clever, I've never heard of
this thing. You never heard all my favorite things. Clever
Hans the math horse is like a drug, Like you
just gave me a hallucinogenic drug by saying those words.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Sorry, Clever has the math Horse?
Speaker 1 (21:43):
All right?
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Yeah, I gotta tap out of this one, got it,
It's too much for me.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
That'd be a great nickname that like for a boxer. Yes,
Clever Hans the math Horse. It can be Clever Hans
or math Horse.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
You can't be so greedy that you have Clever Hans
math hords.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Yeah. I mean you would have to be very good
at boxing to support that moniker.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Iron Clever Hans the math.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
Yes, this boxer keeps kicking us with his hind legs.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Guys, do you think he knows that he's boxing or
is he just looking at his trainer for ques? Uh so? Yeah.
The controversy, as we learned with Coco in particular and
with other primate experiments, was that people thought she could
understand something like two thousand spoken words in English and
(22:45):
communicate them through some version of sign language that I'm
making up here. And the idea then became that she
was able to connect words to make concepts, which is
a very human type of communication. So she might know
the word for trash and then the word for cat,
and then you'd show her a raccoon and she would say, oh,
(23:07):
trash cat, and people are like, that's you're fucking amazing.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
That's so smart. She's basically a poet. That's actually what
we should call raccoons.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
And well, the the that's the search history. It's ruined.
Sperm alphabet. Yeah, it's it's over for me, you guys.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Sperm alphabet done.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
I've heard I've read like studies Okay, I listen to
them on the podcast about like prairie voles being or
prairie dogs, one of the prairie animals having pretty complex
or like easy to decode languages, and like that they
were able to like figure out that one of them
was like for color, so like somebody they'd be like, okay,
(23:50):
yellow guy coming and red guy coming. And it's all
chirps does Yeah, it's little chirps. But they they were
able to record an off of them and get a
sense of like they had words for, like attack from above,
and you know red shirt got attack from red shirt guys.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
From red shirt guy attacked a shirt guy.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Yeah, the scientists maybe should have stopped attacking them. I
feel like not good science. All right, let's take a
quick break. We'll be back to talk overrated, underrated, and
why we're all gonna die.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
We'll be right back.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
And we're back. I still that still goes. It started
start a zoom call with a friend or maybe a
new acquaintance or yeah, always it still still works. The
(24:54):
great podcaster Matt Appadaka, who we now work with, has
really shown me them he's gonna I'm making it sound
like he was the first person to do I think
I started doing it, but he approved it, and that's
that's huge. I don't want to just smirch his good name.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
That guy's name sounds like a spell.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
It is it is it is, actually, yeah, he is.
It's a it's a Harry Potter. I don't know Harry
Potter well enough to make a reference, so I just
said it's a Harry Potter.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Then maybe shut your mouth, maybe shut your your muggle mouth.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Water you don't swim well enough to tread or somebody
ben what's something he thinks underrated for right now?
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Mustaches? We uh we scooped ourselves a bit in the beginning. Uh,
but we spent some time pissing off our producer off
air because I have a mustache that my girlfriend is
clowning me so hard about. I did the grown think,
you know, I shaved and went through, as you said, Jack,
(26:03):
the permutations, and I got a oh I got I
got told that I look I get roasted heart. So
I got told I look so Belgian that I might
do like Belgium. I have specific opinions about chocolate, French
fries and King Leopold.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Uh and worst of all, Yeah, and it's kind of
a wide mustache. It does. You could be wearing a
like old timey one piece bathing costume in that mustache.
I feel like and lifting like a bar barbell then
has round weights on the edg end of it. Yeah,
(26:46):
or triangle it, you know what I mean. Like it's
that's that's kind of what I'm picturing. It does. It
does like kind of change your vibe in a fun way.
I do like it. I like I like non mustache Ben. Also,
you know I don't.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
That's kind you know, next time I'll go whatever the
old Old Testament thing is where it's the beard without
the mustache and it's just like the what's that what's
that called the chin strap thing? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Yeah, chin strap neck beard, old chin strap neck beard.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
I feel like there's a specific Amish or Mormon name
for it. Yeah, that sounds fancier. You've come to the
right place if you want the name for the Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Yeah, gonside general.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Side.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Yeah, yeah, it does feel it feels civil worrying that one.
What is something, Ben, do you think is overrated?
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Le boo boo? Are you guys familiar with those.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Boo they're making the greatest leboo boo? Yeah, we're we're
familiar as people who have a podcast about the zeitgeist. Yeah,
we've been aware of this one.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
So I was. I was overseas recently, and uh, the
the l booboo thing was again, like, you know, let's
be honest with this mustache. I look at the guy.
I look like the guy who has a cop at
the protest trying to be cool, you know, like, hey, guys,
(28:18):
you would be you would be really kick ass if
we all exchange names, addresses and you know, like places
we go routinely.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Yeah, and so with that tricks.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
So he's he's uh, he's real plugged in. Uh, I
am very plugged out. I learned about the Boo boo
like anybody else who was uncool, by getting yelled at
about it by people cooler than me. And I realized
there is this global conspiracy of people carrying around the
(28:56):
boo boos and they're like fucking freemasons.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Man.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
They just nodded each other. They have a hanging from
like their bags or their backpacks. And then and I
don't know if they have a secret handshake, Like I
don't know how deep this goes, but I do think
it's overrated.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
And you said the pronunciation of it in particular.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Oh no, I added pronunciation as overrated because you said
you one time pronounced on we Oh yeah, so that's
another thing I think is overrated. Pronunciation. Yeah, pronunciations, pronunciation
in general over it.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Yeah. By the way, we have learned from super producer
Catherine that the beard no mustache is called the whaler
appropriately and the Whaler Melville. So I guess I gotta
see what that looks like. I think that that was
a type of facial hair that I experimented with a
young No, Mike, yeah it was, it was.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
It was more.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
It was like pre when I could grow a full beard.
So it's just like sha Shaggy with whiskers. Shaggy Whispers
is what I.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Wanted to Shaggy Whispers versus the math Horse.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Okay, yeah, Shaggy Whispers is my uh slash fiction about
the Scooby Doo universe. Yeah, yeah, a tell all book.
Shaggy Whispers. That's all right, let's uh should we get
into the the old Well that's not good. Update of
(30:36):
the day.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Well that's what I yeah, but.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
What you want to hear from a doctor and also
you know the opening line of a news story written
by a Canadian about your country. Well that's not good. Yes. So,
just weeks after being confirmed CDC head Susan Mineraz has
been fired. She was initially asked to resign but refused
and was fired by HHS, which I guess she was like,
(31:05):
I can't really be fired by them. I would need
to be fired by the president and he was like, okay, right,
and I don't know if you remember who the president
iscause it's kind of my thing. It's my favorite thing.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Now, yeah, lebbye.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
So she was fired because Susan Minariras is not aligned
with the president's agenda of making America healthy again. And
this was because she wouldn't quote rubber stamp vaccine recommendations.
That quote flew in the face of science, which is bad.
Like we we had a centeni it might be coming.
It's it's just going in a real worst case scenario direction.
(31:47):
With RFK Junior as the head of we had a sense,
maybe I don't know, putting this, putting a guy who
was a vaccine skeptic kind of famously that was what
he was famous for, putting him into are of healthcare
for the entire country, that that could go badly, and
it seems like things are going very badly. Several other
(32:07):
CDC senior officials have resigned as a result this. I'm
somewhere between can't these fucking idiots do a single thing right?
And can't these fucking idiots do a single thing that
isn't exactly the wrongest thing you could possibly do? At
that moment, you know, like it's like I'm not even
asking that they do it right. It's like just that
(32:29):
they not be fucking like just exactly wrong seeking missiles.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
That's the issue, right, How at what threshold, past what
threshold does incompetence become intentional malevolence?
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Right?
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Like? How randomly can one fandom?
Speaker 2 (32:51):
That's my reaction to this.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
This is so random, you guys, This is random.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
We are winning the lottery of bad choices.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
You know, in college, a lot of the girls I
do would like to refer to things as random, and
I think that is the funniest way to possibly refer
to this whole Oh my god, this presidency is so random.
Randy Randosa, one of them, would say, and that person
is a gene Whoever came up with Randy Randosa is
(33:25):
a genie?
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Gin, but uh yeah, I don't know that. We also
learned this week that they're scaling back food safety monitors
finally for food born diseasing. You've been pushing for this
for a while. Then talk on that about that.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Yeah, you upped in Sinclair. Yeah, you know how it
is you walk through a grocery store. Why shouldn't it
be a casino. You know what I mean. I'm an
Isle twelve. I'm in Isle eleven. We got some canned stuff?
Is it beans? Let roll the goddamn dice.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Yeah, splash guards are fucking constricting. I want the food
sitting out.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
I want nothing to stop my spit, my clean American spit,
from getting on this food that I don't know how
long it's been out for. It's none of my business,
that's right.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
If we needed to guard the food, let's put the
National Guard there.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
We guard this clear plastic yes, more National Guard.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
That National Guard the only, uh, the only protection against
the salad with a bad with some con it's a
National Guard member.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Sound good? Sound good?
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Justin? Please fix that in post.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
Right, That's easily fixable. Right, heyst could you make me
sound smart and sane? Thanks very much? Could you sound
like less like I'm on the verge of just buckling
under the pressure of our collapsing society? Thanks Justine, Justin.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
Thanks Justin. CDC is in Atlanta. So this is uh,
this is a matter of local import right with with
I would argue, of course national, but indeed global consequences right.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Whipples replacing it with a bass pro shop Yeah, another
feeling they could like redesign the CDC to like have
more of a bass pro shop vibe to live there.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Now, Ye when you guys have him on the show,
he'll be like, fun fact about me my house used
to be. Do you guys remember the Center for Disease
Control and Prevention.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
Remember back then?
Speaker 2 (35:55):
So just a little bit more on the food, the
food stuff, because this is one of those things that
is like fairly invisible. Like a lot a lot of
the jobs that are being taken away and like you know,
the government spending that's being cut. Are these things that
are like just don't get any attention, and like Donald
Trump is only cares about things that get ratings, and
so these are the invisible you know, scaffolding behind the
(36:20):
scenes that like saves people's lives. And it just under
a Trump administration where you know, as we talked about
in the run up to the election, like the scary
thing about this second administration the first administration he like
you remember that first meeting with Obama where he was
like what the fuck just happened? And he seems scared,
(36:41):
and he was like, I'm gonna let the professionals handle
this one. Like I kind of did this as a joke,
and it took him a while to like ramp up
his indignation about not being able to like, you know,
do whatever he wanted. And now he is doing whatever
he wants, and it's he's not meant to lead a
(37:02):
complicated government that is saving many people's lives in very
boring ways. He's just like he doesn't have the attention
span for it. So, you know, the doctor Jay Glenn Morris,
whose name I don't know, never wanted to know, the
director of Emerging Pathogen Institute at the University of Florida,
(37:23):
is you know, making sense of this and has said
that he helped create food Net in nineteen ninety five
and we've been benefiting from it unknowingly for the past
however many years it's been since nineteen ninety five, I've
got to think at least fifteen fifteens. Anyways, he said, essentially,
CDC is backing off one of their best surveillance systems.
(37:44):
And this article that is in I think it's like
on CBS dot com, but it just keeps adding there like,
which is bad because in April, Reuter's reported that the
Food and Drug Administration was suspending a quality control program
for testing dairy product. A week before that, Renters reported
that the Trump administration was suspending a quality control program
(38:06):
for its food testing laboratories as a result of staff cuts.
That news came two weeks after, and it just keeps
going with the Department of Health and Human Services announced
wide ranging cutbacks at federal health agencies, including scientists who
tested food and drugs for contamination of or deadly bacteria.
That news came two weeks after The Times reported the
(38:29):
FDA delayed by nearly three years implementation of a requirement.
And this is kind of a harsh requirement, Like this
is anti business, all right, When I explain it, you'll
understand why they had to cut a requirement that food
companies and gross is rapidly trace contaminated food through the
supply chain and pull it off the shelves. Okay, brother,
(38:53):
let's not go crazy here.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
Wow, all right? Or well, yeah, The day.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
Before that, the Times published the newspaper ran a related
article that at the FDA freeze on government credit card spending.
They were just like they froze the FDA's credit cards
that they used to like fund their research. They froze that.
So they could no longer staff. It impeded staff members
from buying food to perform routine tests for deadly bacteria.
Speaker 4 (39:21):
So like they were they my wife freezing credit cards?
I know what the hell right, let me spend.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
That's my draft King's credit card.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Baby, Yeah, did you not think about the cash back?
Speaker 2 (39:35):
The list keeps going. The Times also reported that the
administration has sloughed or stopped some food testing of grocery
adams for hazardous bacteria, monitoring monitoring of shellfish. So so far,
the specific ones that they've stopped monitoring are dairy and shellfish.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
You got to them, those are the two.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
Those are two of the ones that I want somebody
to keep it an eye on. I feel like, you know, yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
Also, just to be clear, we are doing gallows humor.
There is no whistle like your graveyard whistle. So I
think it's safe to say that we are fans of
this kind of infrastructure. It's kind of like how if
you're a human, you don't notice that your heart is
beating all the time right until it's not, and that's
(40:20):
when you run into a problem.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
This kind of stuff is, man, you just thinking about
it your head.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
Don't get in your head about it. What's happening? I
don't like it. I don't like it.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
Anytime. If you want to know what it was like
to smoke weed with me, the answers we do and
it's going too fast.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
Think it's going to fast.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
See everything I can't tell you can deep enough breath?
Speaker 1 (40:53):
Do my hands? Are? They are? They are? They are?
Speaker 2 (40:57):
They have my head?
Speaker 1 (41:00):
But this is this is pretty pretty concerning, and I
don't I obviously, I don't think any of us want
to feel like a baton death march or whatever. But
the the stuff that is getting cut, I think really
speaks to you guys idea about incompetence versus malevolence, Like
(41:22):
how can you be that specifically bad at innocuous things
that often.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
I think I yesterday we were talking about this thing
that Trump's doing with the with environmental policy, where he's
like keeps saying, well, windmills like don't work when the
wind stops blowing, and the you know you can't have
energy proofs by women, and like really and like the
windmills are killing whales, and like these things that seem
(41:54):
really dumb and like have no scientific backing, but they
come from a bunch of research, like millions of dollars
of research being done by the smartest people, Like the
smartest Ivy League graduates all come out, and the jobs
that pay the most are like going to work for
oil companies and doing research on like how to counter
(42:17):
program like messaging about climate change, how to react, how
to redact research. I'm a professional redactor. I make nine
hundred thousand dollars a year. So like there's all this
energy and money being put into whatever is going to
make the most money in that case, like getting rid
(42:38):
of any environmental policies that stand in the way of
oil companies making as much money as they possibly can.
And I think with shit like this, where like these
policies get in the way of food companies being able
to make as much money as they want to, and
they're like annoying to food companies to have to like
(42:58):
pay attention to this shit. So all the stuff that
seems like malevolence is just them doing the you know,
taking away of any policies that get in the way
of companies, you know, getting the way of money like
flowing as quickly and you know, frictionlessly as possible to
the biggest corporations. Like I think that's where all of
(43:20):
this is coming.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
From, regularly recapture.
Speaker 4 (43:23):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. And another scary thing too at getting
back to is it Manaras Is that how you pronounced Susan's.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm going I heard a newscaster
say it that way, and that's what we're going with.
Speaker 4 (43:33):
That's what we're that's what That's what Wolfe said. So
that's that's the same who you can't stop watching. But
my favorite, that's the scariest thing is that she is
someone who's fucked up enough for Trump to be okay
to appoint to that position to begin with, and this
person E won't even this is a bridge too far.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
And what they're asking her to do a Trump appointee.
She's like, well, that's gonna like be so bad, right,
Like obviously I can't do that. And they're like, well
then you're fired.
Speaker 4 (44:04):
If this is not a holdover from like the Jimmy Carter, No, yeah,
this is fresh, this is a fresh hire. I take
a D plus at this point, like you said, like
like a heat seeking missile for like being wrong. It's
not even like we're asking for an A plus, you know,
because that's impossible it's like anything but an f minus.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
Like if you can get a deep atander, it's possible. Yeah,
But well, I think we're inside a system that has
been fucked by unregulated capitalism for decades and decades, and
so anything that is just worsening that is going to
seem like it's exactly the wrong thing, because it is.
(44:46):
It's exactly the worst possible thing that could happen to
the country at this point. But because our options are
either the existing market driven thing that everybody we now
have like three decades where people are like no more
of that, and you know, there's no opportunity for socialism
(45:08):
or like they'll find a way to like try and
fight that way. So there's no like official version of
like a left wing opposition. The only other option is fascism,
and so that's what we now have, yes, yeah, yeah,
the final resort right of fear. I think also DearS
I gained how the US slipped from descriptions of civilians
(45:33):
to consumers.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
You hear that often right? What happened to the pension?
It became the four oh one K, which comprises no
less than forty percent of the stock market. Let me look, sorry, guys,
I stumbled on this soapbox. Let me step off this.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
Yeah, get up there, careful, careful, careful, careful.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
Oh jeez, Well we're speaking to the choir while those
are still allowed right in modern day America. And how
weird is that's actually the US.
Speaker 3 (46:04):
We're going to have it's choirs.
Speaker 2 (46:08):
That's a good point, your universal basic income, you will
have to go sing in the choir.
Speaker 1 (46:13):
Oh gosh, yeah, full handmade's tale. But how could this,
how could this be a thing we cut? Like who
learns about the idea of food born illness and says,
I don't know, man kind of.
Speaker 2 (46:31):
Corporations whose jobs for whom it is expensive to not
do food born illnesses? I think those are the people.
And yeah, but that would be my that would be
my assumption, because yeah, it does. It does seem almost
like when you're just viewing it out of context, is
like it seems weird that they keep doing exactly the
wrong thing, like on purpose. But yeah, the vaccine thing,
(46:55):
I don't like that. That one's just like ideologically driven incorrect,
is going to kill a lot of people in a
way that like seems like it's pretty going to be
pretty transparently their fault but this that's not going to help.
Speaker 3 (47:11):
It seems to me where this is always to your point,
it's either business and money or quote unquote traditional values.
And I'm going to push actually back against you, Jack,
where I think this is a traditional values thing where
they want to get back to the era of getting
so sick whenever you eat, you know, like ray and
then like have a doctor travel by foot from.
Speaker 4 (47:35):
Ye blood letting, like we need to bring back blood letting,
make America a.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
Make America die from diarrhea again, exactly.
Speaker 3 (47:42):
Yeah, diarrhea death.
Speaker 1 (47:45):
By diarrhea.
Speaker 3 (47:47):
Yeah, MySpace dot com slash diarrhea death happens.
Speaker 1 (47:51):
I love it, my Space diary. But this is how it.
This is how what happens. It's never going to be
a full frontal thing. It's going to be some infra
nation management on you know whatever your local favorite Fox
news is where someone uh someone says, hey, uh this
just in toilet paper prices are through the roof, which
(48:14):
has a lot of people talking about whether diarrhea is
good for you. We're going now to the last doctor
or just the last doctor final the last doctor.
Speaker 2 (48:28):
By the way, many people die of diarrhea every year,
I should say especially young children.
Speaker 1 (48:33):
Right.
Speaker 2 (48:34):
Yeah, well there's going to be more Yeah, it should
be more common. It should be a thing that we're
all talking about. You know, that's the issue, because it's funny,
and that'll be funny. That'll make things funny, make them
and unavoidable. Can we avoid this? We're making We're making
comedy legal again, folks.
Speaker 1 (48:51):
Make America go fa again.
Speaker 4 (48:53):
You can't say anything anymore. We'll be right back. You're
listening to the Daily Zekeece on the iHeartMedia Network.
Speaker 2 (48:59):
I was waiting for it.
Speaker 4 (49:00):
Ninety three point three wm R. That's Philadelphia radio station,
who which I do get money every time I promote
the money.
Speaker 2 (49:20):
And we are back, Blake, how did it feel to
take us to break God?
Speaker 3 (49:26):
I think I made Tommy John's after throwing the commercial
so far hurt my HOPO.
Speaker 1 (49:34):
Up, I'll say it, I'll say it. I'm not I'm
not too proud. Blake. You look taller, Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (49:42):
I feel so tall. I feel taller. Have you guys
met anybody who seems like they got a lot taller
in adulthood and you think that they might have gotten
that Lake breaking surgery.
Speaker 1 (49:52):
The gattigo surgery.
Speaker 2 (49:54):
The were they one person who I met at I
saw the reunion and was like.
Speaker 1 (50:00):
What the fuck did they really? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (50:03):
They would never admit it, but they are. They went
from being I think, like a normal sized person to
like officially a full on, like tall tall person, where
like the first thing you notice is like, oh, you're
like tall. You stand out in a crowd over everybody else.
Speaker 1 (50:21):
Look at the shoes.
Speaker 2 (50:23):
I spent a lot of time looking at them. It
was all Unfortunately, it was all I talked about the
whole reunion, and everybody was like, all right, man, like
could you buddy, maybe you should start drinking again.
Speaker 3 (50:37):
See CTV footage and it's just like Jack staring at
like a clown that they hired on stilts and it's like,
for a Jack, Jesus, this person.
Speaker 2 (50:44):
You don't even know this guy.
Speaker 3 (50:45):
You didn't go to school with this guy.
Speaker 1 (50:47):
This isn't even your high school. Why are you here?
Speaker 2 (50:53):
All right, We've got big news for Wizard of Oz fans. Yeah,
who like to just Wizard of Oz fans hopefully enjoy
are like into like subdom stuff and just getting kicked
in the shins repeatedly because we talked about how the Sphere.
Their latest offering is going to be Wizard the Wizard
(51:15):
of Oz, but like remade for the Sphere. And what
they've done is they've taken the shots from the movie
and they have expanded them outward so that now like
you can see just like bare parts of the wall
in Dorothy's home and like some furniture, and like one
(51:39):
of them is like Uncle Ben or whatever her uncle's
name is, just like standing in a doorway, like looking
at his dick, just like looking downward, like the real
trouble AI has real trouble with like Eyeline. You know,
you may have noticed like that they're always like not
looking necessarily in the right direction.
Speaker 3 (51:59):
None of it's story building either. You're right.
Speaker 4 (52:01):
It's like I wonder what v Oz her grandmother would
have bought kept in that corner of the house. It's like,
we don't need this. It's just not that surprising.
Speaker 1 (52:12):
It's also Uncle Henry, who is Uncle Henry softly softly
considering masturbation on the sea just because we called it
Uncle Ben, which is from Spider Man, So and Rice, Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (52:30):
Aconomically they're the same Uncle. Actually the world whose world
is this?
Speaker 1 (52:36):
The World's yours go. So, uh that that's kind of
that head cannon stuff is cool, But now what we're
seeing with the AI reckoning is head cannon for a
head that does not exist. Right, there are too many,
they're too It sounds deep unless you think about it.
(52:58):
Nobody think about it. Yeah on that Ben, all right,
just consider it what we would call podcast true. Uh
so that's right. Wow, thanks guys.
Speaker 2 (53:10):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (53:11):
I liked you guys. Liked playing Pink Floyd and watching
Wizard of the Odds. Wizard of the Odds. Wow, plugged
me into the entry Wizard of the Odds. The So
head canon.
Speaker 2 (53:26):
Is like just like all that shit like stuff that's
like kind of made up, but like fan fiction ideas
and stuff like that. Yeah, yeah, I think it's many
times better than what like there are fan theories that
end up being better than what the writers come up with.
Like during the Harry Potter craze, people had this like
(53:48):
fan theory that it was actually like Neville long Bottom
was secretly the chosen One and like Harry was like
a distraction who like heroically was distracting Voldemort from Nevill
long Bottom and then like it was going to end
up being this and it would like be this cool
morality story of like no, just because it's not all
(54:10):
like based on lineage and eugenics, and you know, it
could it could be this surprising thing where this guy
with a name that essentially translates to long.
Speaker 3 (54:23):
But he got too hot was the problem he became.
Speaker 1 (54:26):
To break out? Yeah, they couldn't afford him.
Speaker 2 (54:29):
They couldn't And instead it was just like no, Harry
Potter's the show's the other Really, there was another one
with the Twilight Universe that I just like don't remember
the details of the Twilight Universe well enough to like explain,
but it was so much better. It's not I will
never forget myself.
Speaker 1 (54:49):
You're so hard on yourself. It's fine, Stop helping about Blake.
This is how it ends. Wait, but the Wizard of Oz, right,
hazard of the goddamn Oz. Yeah, respect of the damn.
Speaker 3 (55:05):
The Ohio State University.
Speaker 2 (55:09):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (55:10):
Think about it. Think about it, folks. Uh. Yeah, it's
a it's a fascinating series of young adult novels. But
like any other young adult fiction or film adaptations thereof,
I would argue it is vulnerable to being propagandized because
you're It's all about parables, right, you learn a lesson,
(55:32):
you do your little Joseph Campbell. Uh, you find adversity,
you find victory. You you you like t s Eliot said, Uh,
the essence of exploration is you return to the place
you left.
Speaker 2 (55:46):
And you know, for the first life saying it was
it was, it kind of got annoying after I never
got to s Eliot.
Speaker 1 (55:54):
Well, uh, he spent a lot of his life really
caused playing British. But but but he's definitely went.
Speaker 2 (56:02):
To the same high school as me. No, no way,
really nice, triasshole. I know where you're from from. You
fucking lose a vacation. She is.
Speaker 3 (56:24):
Sally went to that she is, But I don't know
what time anything is.
Speaker 1 (56:31):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (56:32):
I think that's the one that went to my school,
the one of what the famous fuckers used to.
Speaker 3 (56:44):
I also like Madonna. Sorry it was Madonna.
Speaker 1 (56:48):
It was Madonna. It was commonly confused. Yeah, Donna. No, like,
I have to google it too, man, I have to
look up the pictures. Just which one?
Speaker 2 (57:00):
Uh, Milton Academy is that the.
Speaker 1 (57:05):
You're still in the research for it, Milton Milton.
Speaker 2 (57:10):
Yeah, attended Milton Academy in Massachusetts. For a preparatory year.
All right, we're good here, justin it can stick, keep
all that, all right. So anyways, yes, Wizard of Oz
very powerful icon that can be filled with any meaning
that people want to put on it. Massive takes up
(57:32):
massive space and the shared consciousness, and that allows people
with power to come in and use it as they
would like. But we've got good news, folks. We're getting
a contemporary Wizard of Oz series on Amazon Prime. So
you know it's going to make a splash because shows
(57:53):
that cost a billion dollars and are based on the
Lord of the Rings just go there and like just
disappear and don't exist. So it's going to be on
Amazon Prime, and it's going to be executive produced by
Gwen Stefani and Blake Shelton, like Swish fucking way down town.
(58:16):
It's God. But okay, so now they're thinking a little
bit outside the box, you guys. Oh wow, this version
of the Wizard of Oz is going to be a
music infused Why a retelling of Wizard of Oz, which
the original movie was, I guess you could say music infused,
(58:38):
and also about a young adult.
Speaker 1 (58:40):
M'k with you?
Speaker 2 (58:43):
Okay, all right, we got another thing. In Dorothy, the
name of this Dorothy, it will be pronounced like in
The Golden Girls. The Yellow Brick Road will be quote
a metaphor for the challenges and choices facing young adults today,
whereas the original Yellow Brick Road had no metaphorical anything.
(59:07):
And this is the These are the first people who
are like, what if it was a fucking metaphor though.
Speaker 1 (59:14):
Gold Standard?
Speaker 2 (59:15):
Yes, right, it was originally that was originally What if
it was a metaphor for the gold Standard?
Speaker 3 (59:27):
It's the worst metaphor you could ever fucking imagine. The
gold Standard.
Speaker 2 (59:33):
People are a little concerned that a film franchise that
has historically been a fixture of the gay community is
now in the hands of a mega couple. And when
I heard them described as a mega couple, I was like,
all right, guys, Gwen Stefani, no doubt, was the first
concert that I ever went to without my parents six
(59:57):
years ago, the Reunion tour.
Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
I think we all have that. We all have that
moment too. Maybe it's maybe we are bubbled in our experience,
but I don't know about you, guys. I always have
that similar moment. Just off air, we were talking about
this and you guys, let me know that. Apparently when
Stefani from No Doubt is so what right wing, and
(01:00:26):
it's just always surprising to me because I'm like, oh,
you did sca though.
Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
Right, Yeah, like a thing that. Yeah, So that's what
I was about to get the fact that like I thought,
like Gwen Stefani was you know, just married to a
right wing guy and was still and also a major
cultural appropriator, but like I didn't think she was like
full full conservative. Apparently she's been pretty conservative even again
(01:00:53):
even though SKA music is at its core like anti fascist.
Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
She's very involved in one of those apps where you
can pay money to pray with her is owned by
Peter Teel. And she responded to an interview on social
media with a guy who acts in Christian like plays
Jesus in a Christian movie, saying, Wow, Jonathan Rumy, you
(01:01:17):
are a powerful, inspirational human. What an enlightening, intelligent, beautiful interview.
Thank you for being you. That interview took place on
the Tucker Carlson Show. Yeah, there's a whole hour and
a half long dive that goes into like her background
and how this actually shouldn't surprise anybody and we'll link
(01:01:40):
off to that in the footnotes. But it's anyways, it's
kind of a bummer, kind of a bummer, but Dorothy
should be. It should be a hoot that everybody will
stop and watch. And I think it's gonna finally happen
(01:02:01):
for Amazon Prime. You got this is the one. This
is the one Prime video.
Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
Jeff is right now, like he just walked out of
that uh pitch meeting we set up, and uh, he's
going to babe, this is the one. Remember how you
always told me Wizard of Oz was it propagandistic enough? Well,
we got it.
Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
There was like some metaphorical content in the Wizard of Oz.
Speaker 1 (01:02:27):
I don't know, I don't think the music's going to
be as good.
Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
You don't think so.
Speaker 1 (01:02:32):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:02:33):
You're gonna look so silly in nine years when this
movie finally.
Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
None of the other Wizard of Oz, like all somewhere
out no somewhere out there that's fible over.
Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
The rainbow, over the rainbow. Uh the if I only
had a brain.
Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
Yeah, if I had a brain, all the songs I'm
wicked skips skips in my whoa whoa? However wicked too?
You you go you go back and check out when
it's Fannie's latest country album, nary a Skip, Insight, all
Bangers from the beginning Dead.
Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
It's just that album.
Speaker 4 (01:03:13):
Yeah, it's a shame she got the same critiques that
Beyonce did when she released her I.
Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
Know A Country album the same year as Beyonce her
country album. But it's just an outright like just skipping.
Nobody even notices what what.
Speaker 1 (01:03:34):
That's why that? That's also by the way, folks, Uh,
that's what Miles is working on today.
Speaker 2 (01:03:41):
Is his country album.
Speaker 1 (01:03:42):
Yeah, he sit out to work on his country.
Speaker 4 (01:03:45):
Congrats to Miles. I listened to a little bit of
it and I yeah, it's it's great. It's it's great.
Transform Yeah, transformeriod.
Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
Some of the songs actually, like it seems like they
might be metaphorical you think of it. Yeah, that's Miles.
That's that.
Speaker 3 (01:04:01):
You expect that from Miles.
Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
Everything some metaphorical, metaphorical Miles. Yeah. Well, Ben Bolin, such
a pleasure having you on the podcast as always. Where
can people find you? Follow you all that good stuff?
Speaker 1 (01:04:14):
Oh yes, you can fine. Follow hang out with a
couple of shows. I do stuff. They don't want you
to know. Ridiculous history featuring the one and only Jack
and Miles not too infrequently to check that.
Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
Pretty frequently at this point.
Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
Yeah, I just say, like how I just guilt you
guys at the end of every show. Oh. Also, stuff
they don't want you to know is going to the
High Seas. We are part of a Virgin Voyages true
crime cruise that is happening. This is a true story.
On October tenth through the fifteenth, we're going to do
(01:04:52):
an episode about the Bermuda Triangle live in the Bermuda Triangle.
Check it out. You can a so I find me,
as Miles says, anywhere there's an at sign in a
burst of creativity calling myself at Ben Bullen.
Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
You maniac at that bully? What could it mean? I
think there's metaphorical content in there. Is there a work
of media that you've been enjoying?
Speaker 1 (01:05:16):
Ben? Yes? Absolutely? When Stefani uh no doubt, Uh come on,
come on, do soon?
Speaker 2 (01:05:27):
Do soon?
Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
For a callback? I have I have I have recently
for fans of mendanity and wholesomeness, I have recently done
some kind of like earwashing or like eye washed kind
of stuff by looking at this guy in Thailand who
(01:05:47):
just saves dogs. His name is Nil Harbison uh and
everything that he is oriented towards in his life is
just him finding with a his crew, finding street dogs
in Thailand, specifically attempting to save their lives and to
give them good homes.
Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
So that's pretty cool. That's awesome. Yeah, well sounds like
an asshole?
Speaker 3 (01:06:15):
Yeah, well, how is he making money off of this?
Speaker 2 (01:06:18):
What's his angle?
Speaker 1 (01:06:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (01:06:19):
I should have ended it with yeah, well yeah, yeah,
Well I think that's the only sunctuation I can understand
is yeah, well that's my period, Blake.
Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
Yeah, speaking of your period? Yeah, where can people find you?
Follow you in entire work media? You've been enjoying.
Speaker 3 (01:06:38):
I'm on it and people can find me at Blake
Wexler on all social media. Tonight and tomorrow I'm doing
stand up in wilkes Bury, Pennsylvania, and then these shows
tickets aren't on sale yet, but I will be in
Ashville September twenty sixth, Chicago December seventh, and a big
(01:06:58):
show in Brooklyn on January sixteenth, sixteenth, teenth, sixteenth, big
show teenth in January, and a thing to work of media.
Speaker 4 (01:07:12):
Six no, no, no, that was that was taken. I
try to do it every single year. I'm gonna be real,
I'll finally have had ten days to recover from the party.
Speaker 3 (01:07:24):
I've been doing hosting.
Speaker 4 (01:07:27):
So my wife is a is a writer and she
wrote an article for nat Geo last month speaking of animals.
Ticks are taking over city parks. Here's how to avoid those.
So yeah, that's good. So that's a thing. If you're
a dog person and you live in a city, check
your dog, even if like you're in Central Park or
(01:07:49):
whatever the city's park is, you should. I know it
sounds silly, but you should check your dog for ticks
after they're they're playing in the grass and stuff. Because
we found ticks on our dog, like you're in New York.
So yeah, so that's it's nice. Another nice piece of news.
But it's a good it's a good article.
Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
And if you're not like all the sheeople who have
dogs as pets, and if you had ticks as pets, yes,
your tick check for dogs. Got stuck on a dog
when you're playing with it in the park.
Speaker 1 (01:08:20):
Check your ticks for dogs? Jack, Jack, Where can people
learn more about you? Men?
Speaker 2 (01:08:26):
Oh man? So many places?
Speaker 3 (01:08:28):
And your rescue tick that you have dedicated it. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:08:35):
He saved me from a life without lyme disease. I'm
enjoying workimedia from David please stop, who wrote when I'm broke.
When I get paid again, I'm gonna start saving ship
for real this time, no unnecessary ship me. When I
get paid, Google, show me your most frivolous and worldly things.
(01:08:58):
I love the use of worldly there world frivolous and
worldly things is wonderful. That's at David, please stop or
a sad little man is there twitter handle? You can
find me on Twitter at jack Underscore of Brian at
Blue Sky at jack Obi the number one. You can
(01:09:19):
find us on Twitter and blue Sky at Daily Zeitgeist.
I believe it is. Yes, that's correct, we're at the
Daily Zeitgeist. On Instagram, you can go to the description
of this episode wherever you're listening to it. Open the episode,
go to where all the words are underneath the title
of the show, and underneath that description you'll find the
footnote where we link off to the information that we
(01:09:42):
talked about in today's episode. We also wake off to
a song that we think you might enjoy with Miles Out.
Super producer Justin Connor steps in and tells you a
song that he thinks you might enjoy, and also kind
of it gives you a little poetry. Well, he's at it,
justin their song that you think that people might enjoy.
Speaker 9 (01:10:02):
Yeah, So I don't usually recommend dance music on here
for some reason, but seeing as how I've started the
DJ again, I've been listening to a lot more of it.
And also it's Friday, so this song sounds like if
you put pop vocals over the start menu music in
the Sega Fighting game, and it's it's very uptempo, it's
very fun. It'll get your weekend started right. So this
(01:10:25):
track is called in Your Arms by shift key spelled
K three.
Speaker 2 (01:10:29):
Y, and you can find that in the footnotes footnotes.
The Daily Zey Guy is a production by Heart Radio.
For more podcasts from my Heart Radio, visit Yeah Heart Radio,
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That's going to do it for us. This week we're back.
You got an episode tomorrow that's uh, you know, the
highlights from this week's season. And on Monday, we're trying
(01:10:51):
a new thing. We we have it. We have a
thing called oops all over rated, Underrated where we just fun. Yeah,
we just through and highlight some of our favor overrated,
underrated for the past couple of months. So we'll be
dropping that. We might be dropping our very weird US
open episode at some point. All of that, plenty more
(01:11:12):
and we will talk to y'all on Tuesday. New episode
dropping Tuesday. Talk to y'all then bye right. The Daily
Zeite Guys is executive produced by Catherine Long, co produced
by Bee Wag, co produced by Victor Wright, co
Speaker 3 (01:11:27):
Written by J M McNabb, edited and engineered by Justin Connor.
Uh speaking of power moves. Uh, my girlfriend is going
to require me to remove this mustache after we record.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Oh yeah, you just grew up for the for the record.
Yeah yeah yeah, sorry, baby, I gotta show you.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
I gotta show up. Guys. You knows.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Exactly of all. Thank her for her sacrifice.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Yes, oh wow, yeah, ultimate sacrifice.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
For your service.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Thank you for your man ma'am, Thank you for your service.
I will stand up when she enters the room, so.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
We should take these hats off.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Sorry, I'm geez sorry.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Yeah, yeah, in the presence of greatness? How long has
it been going on? Are you a fast grower?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Thank you?
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Yeah, like we said, thank you, thank you for Uh
how does why does that sound like the weirdest goddamn euphemism? Yeah,
I'm a fast grower, babe, you fast grower mustache. I
can just focus real hard and have a mustache. By
(01:19):
the end of this episode.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
That's all the veins popping out of your head.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Oh my god, Hello the Internet, and welcome to season four,
oh three, Episode five of Dirty Guys. Ha ha ha
h this production of iHeart Radios Podcasts. We're taking deep
to have into American share consciousness. I was just talking
(01:46):
about how my voice was like failing me this week.
I've noticed, and if I get whatever RFK has from screaming,
like they're just like, oh. The only thing that could
explain this is if every day you just screamed in
a weird German accent for like a couple of seconds.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Except what you're screaming is probably a different type of
German scream than what gave it to him.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Right, that's right, Yeah, we're happening in private meetings. Yes, yes,
it's Friday, August twenty ninth, twenty twenty five, last episode
of August. I would assume, yeah, I don't think we're
recording this weekend, and then it's a long weekend, so
(02:32):
it's gonna be fucking March second, is that right?
Speaker 3 (02:36):
We come back, it might be March March second in
like a lion out like a ham.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
My name is Jack O'Brien AKA. Now I'm not trying
to be rude, but these vaccines be killing you the
way Big Pharma trying to shoot whip feet us up
and you it's the RFK, A mission hot and fresh
pox transmission disease is coming from Bobby. Got every man
in here twitch and that one courtesy of Charles on
(03:08):
We Fromage on the Discord, and courtesy of Kylie Airs
and paulvi Ganalon and our conversation yesterday where we somehow
landed on the uber problematic character of R. S. Kelly.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
Sorry sorry, that's so good. Yeah, I'm so jealous of that.
It's crazy Kelly is Yeah mine as well. Might as
well throw them together. Also great name, Charles on Wei Fromage.
I love the idea that the Ian French chuck e
cheese stands for on whe or n y as I
once pronounced that word on this show.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Anyways, I'm thrilled to be joined as always, uh not
as always thrilled to be joined. We made a personnel change,
we made a that's right, I hit my right arm.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
You're mighty right.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Oh yeah, yeah, I could tell. I could tell. We
ran into each other at the Open. I'm wearing a
US Open hat that I bought there and a big
foam finger that you are I bought there.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
You type so slowly now, because that's stupid.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Finger throw to be joined in our second seat temporarily
by a brilliant comedium writer, actor Coiner of the phrase
plumpers to describe his jacked thighs. Autocorrect keeps trying to
change it to plumbers because it knows that the word
plumpers shouldn't exist. But it's like a curse from another dimension.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
Please welcome by and eyed Phil keeps coming through my
screen every single type that word in.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
The brilliant, the hilarious, the riding of retcumbent bike in
short shorts. It's Blake wax Lis. This is.
Speaker 6 (04:55):
I can't hear anything, all right, well, good, good, good good.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
It was a tear mar getting surgery without an anesthetic.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Voice.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Yeah, it was our Kelly. Yeah it was Kelly. It
was r F Kelly. Blake can explain what it was.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
I kind of want to know. Well, I'll sing it later,
all right.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Cool, It was just piano man. I was started playing
Billy Joel's piano man.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
We can't clipped for the right, Yeah, we got Joel
is all over it.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Billy Joel is a time cop. He can come back
from the future and.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
All he listens to this show to make sure we're
not playing piano man.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
That's what he does.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
He does.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
And finally, and he, by the way, has like spoam
fingered sized fingers on each every single one of his
fingers and that's how he plays the piano so well.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
He does have there's a new documentary about Billy Joel
that is very long and also like it's it's kind
of amazing how much it's like, you know, in like
bad move like bad musician biopics where they'll be like,
and I came to a crossroads, and that's when I
(06:13):
wrote the song Crossroads. I'm I'm referring, of course, to
the Bone Thugs and Harmony, a biopic which is way
Billy Joel, though he keeps being like, so I was,
you know, going to New York on the Hudson river line,
and I wrote It's just like the things are so autobiographical,
(06:36):
just like so directly ripped from his life. He's just
like looking around him writing songs and he's like, so,
I was at this bar where I was the man
who played the piano, and he took some poetic license.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
And someone looked at me and said, what are you
gonna do with that piano? Man?
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Man, man, man, what are you doing here? It turns
out they said that because I was there on the
wrong night. Yes, anyways, I thought it was a good line,
so I just recorded it into the song. But he
does have in addition to giant foam fingers, he has
a vape that is in the shape of a giant cigar.
(07:18):
Did you notice that he's vaping the whole time? But
like with a giant cigar that is just I don't know,
like he's like, you know, what would actually be way
cooler than vaping is smoking a cigar that is essentially a.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Builda but with vape juice in it, not tobacco exactly,
not the thing people smoke cigars because, you know it,
like cigars are only enjoyed because of how thick and
brown they are.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Yea, you know, act like yeah take that freud.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Yeah. It's like sometimes a cigar is just a cigar,
but like sometimes you're going out of your way to
like make it a cigar even though it doesn't have
any like it doesn't need to be a cigar at all.
You just like want a big brown dick shaped thing
in your mouth. Anyways, who does not among who among us?
Blake who among us? We're thrilled to be joined in
(08:11):
our third seat Blake by a writer, one of the
best podcast hosts and executive producers doing it. You know,
I'm from stuff they don't want you to know, you know,
from ridiculous history missing in Arizona. It's Ben Bully.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
You got Ben bull I don't know how long we're
going to go, but thank you for segueing to the
intro from talking about smoking cigars, right, thank you. Yeah,
speaking of big things in your mouth, I guess I'm
a guest for today.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Yeah, whoa the original, big big brown dick shaped thing
in your mouth. It's Ben Bullers.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
That's what my mother always said.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Actually.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
To wake you up.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Yeah, she would shake me as a child. What's up
you guys. It's It's fantastic to hang out. It's phenomenal. Uh,
to see you all again. I was running a little
bit late, which Jack you described as a power move,
and thank you. It was on purpose.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Yeah, of course, and growing and being a grower fast we.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Are, ye, So this is something that we should just
talk about, you know, in the room. Right. Ben has
a very impressive mustache right now.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Oh my gosh. That yeah, how's it going? Oh my god, Blake, Blake.
I thought Jack was doing a bit while we were
off air. No, you're serious about this. Okay, We're going
on the air with it.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Yeah, so I, uh, you don't want to talk about
If you don't want to talk about it, I didn't
like you, you know, if you I just am very
curious how long it took, because very fast. I doesn't
want to do this, but this is the eleventh time
I'm asking. Okay, yeah, yeah, a journalistic trick where I
will just sit here in silence and wait for you
to answer my questions. Love that trick.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
I think it will always work. And what could go wrong? Yeah?
I just got back from some time on the road
and I did that thing that every grown man does
when you have a beard, and I went through while shaving,
I went through all the different pursuonas I could be. Yeah,
the permutations perfect defining facial hair. So this probably took
(10:47):
about a week and a half.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Okay, very very impressive. That is really that is really
a really strong week and a half.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Unfortunately I can't grow chest hair. I have like three
So you think it all just goes through your face.
I think it all goes through the face.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Got rerouted all through your face, all your chest hair growth.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Yes, it's a hair transplant from your upper chest.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
But then in the exact pattern of the upper mustache.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Well, thank you for sharing it with us. I know
you said that going away very soon, but you know
you're a hero, and so is your girlfriend for letting
you like keep it for this length of time.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Oh right, negotiation facial hair negotiations are ongoing, right.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Yeah, take would never cook, Yeah, I would really. Yeah.
I've been married for seventeen years and it is exclusively
because I haven't. I haven't gone back to you know,
my interest in growing mustaches early days.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
If I may, like justin let us witness Jack O'Brien here,
no offense, man, my guy, you look like you get
a four thirty PM shadow after shaving. Yeah, yeah, you
look like it grows pretty quickly.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Yeah, it's a it's a lunch lunchtime shadow. It grows,
it grows fast. Yeah I can. I could focus really
hard and have a mustache by the end of this recording.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Just a vague popping out on and Blake. You've got
the you've got the scientifically proven best form of facial hair,
which is stubble. Right, you got like you got like
the generous stubble which yeah it guys.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Remember, Yeah, it's the facial hair that like I feel
like every famous guy has, like in a movie. Yeah,
it's like I like, kind of I guess I haven't shaved,
but it's like so metigulous and it's like long and
very tight. Yeah, exactly, Like, huh, that's interesting. You haven't
(12:52):
shaved like one part of your face in a while
while other parts. But is that a natural growth?
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Okay, figure I wax my f laser. There's there are
lasers and wax, and that's sick.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
It's all right, that's h well, but we'll see.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Well, we'll get a letter from the Serbian Wax Guild
and they'll be like, guys, yeah, s w G is
a centuries old organization. We do not appreciate being uh
mis portrayed this way. However, if Blake Wexler would like
(13:40):
uh to get you know what I'm thinking now, I've
talked this into free tickets to Serbia.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Blake waxl Yes, great basketball team, great Waxler.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Blake Waxler is what I said. All Right, you win,
always win. I just want to make sure you heard that.
Then we're gonna get to know you a little bit
better the moment. First, we're gonna tell the listeners about
some of the fun news that we're gonna be talking
about today. Hey, speaking of R F. Kelly, things not
going well for Old America. Uh. From our Canadian writer
(14:16):
Jam McNab, I feel like this could have only this
description of this story couldn't have been written by someone
in America because he just opened it up with well
that's not good ellipses. Yeah. Just weeks after being confirmed
CDC head Susan Minaras has been fired for being too
(14:36):
vaccine friendly, So we're gonna talk about that. There's also
some stuff happening with food safety. Have you guys do
you guys do that?
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Do you eat food?
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Because yeah, yeah, yeah, Why is there something if you
leave it out for a while or don't go to
something food that.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
People look out for that, right, Like don't isn't there
people who are supposed to make sure we're.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
There is an invisible network that we hadn't paid much
attention to up to this point, constantly monitoring food and
then like when there is an outbreak of equal I
they would address, they would go out and take it
off the shelves. They would also tell us about it
in a way that I always found I'm like, yeah,
I mean, I'm not going to pay attention, but like
(15:21):
it sounds like you guys are taking care of it,
then you.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Guys got it.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
It's the same thing with the FAA planes, where it's like, right,
I never really thought about planes until this administration. There's
just things that we keep taking for granted that seem
fucking simple and givens, but it just keeps coming up.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
All right, well, so we can't givens.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Robin I like to call it the I like to
call it the worst good news situation, where you know,
you get that official announcement that a thing you haven't
heard of has decided there will be less than four
grams of rat feces in cereal that are now on.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Guys, we've made a big, big break. Oh you know
all that rat shit you've been eating.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
We'll talk about Gwen Stefani and Blake Shelton because they're
remaking The Wizard of Oz as we've been begging them
to do, so we'll talk about that and just uh,
you might not realize it, but Gwen Stefani is kind
of full mega. Now I don't know, like full mega,
but she's like a straight up conservative and apparently has
them for a while all that plenty more, But first, Ben,
(16:28):
we do like to ask our guests, what is something
from your search history that's revealing about who you are?
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Sperm, whale, phonetic alphabet?
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Uh huh? I like you just you stopped listening. You
you're listening, but you stopped after sperm based on your right,
based on the noise you made you creep? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Yeah, yeah. So do you guys have pets? Do you
like animals or are you monsters? Or what's going on?
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Like you're coming at us like you're introducing the concept
of animals to you.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
You can own an animal.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
That sucks? Yeah, well, I love whales specifically, and I'm
becoming more interested in animals and what's going on there?
What's that with them? As I get older?
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Okay, all right, guys, this is the thing working on
a couple of recent recent episodes about the question of
can people talk with animals? You know, we know humans
are animals. They're just kind of stuck up, right, But
instead of talking at or two, your pooch, your dogg o,
(17:52):
your furd feathered or scaly friend, can you speak with them?
Can there be an equal peer to peer conversation or discourse?
This turns out to be pretty crazy because a lot
of the research is under fire, right, Like Coco the
Gorilla is a famous example, or Alex the African gray parrot. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
I thought we were like having conversations about Coco with
Coco the Gorilla.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Right this podcast, right right, Yeah, because uh, you guys
bumped to Robin Williams, I think, and mister Rogers is.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Robin Williams Coca the Gorilla finding out Robin Williams.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Dot Yeah, that's apparently a bit of a confirmation bias
on the behalf of the very well intentioned scientists. No, honestly, however,
I'm waving my hand like I can just sort of say,
these are not the droids you're looking for. Whatever. What
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we did find was that in recent quite recent years,
researchers have leveraged large language models algorithms AI per will
Smith to analyze the communication of different types of cetacean,
(19:19):
specifically sperm whales, and it turns out that they might
have a language. So my search history is fucking rocked
and ruined because I had to put the word sperm
into all these research to things and our buddy somewhere
at the n Essay is like, okay, sperm whale, sure, man,
(19:41):
all right, but whales might be able, might have a
language that humans can translate and maybe maybe talk with them.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
Yeah, sperm whales must be even harder to study because
they live so deep in the ocean, right, Like, it
must be hard to listen to them. I'm saying that
as if I'm concerned. God, this is gonna be so
much work going into this.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Well, they got to come up sometime. That's what I
always say. I'm a whaler, I should say that I whales,
and so I just sit there at the surface with
a harpoon saying the sometime brother Millville.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Of podcasts, Yeah, they call you.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
That's so, that's wild that the so when the apes
were doing sign language, was it like the uh like
sign language interpreters who will go behind a speech and like,
actually not no sign language and just be doing like
(20:42):
and we just assume they're actually doing it when just
because we don't speak sign language or happen.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Those folks who are on the forefront of comedy, yes cough,
they could never.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Exactly. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Secondly, you are absolutely correct. The controversy goes into the
concept of interpretation, right like clever Hans, the world's most
famous math horse.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
The math horse, I've heard is purely just like they
were looking at their owner or like the human that
they knew, and like interpreting their faces. That's what they
want me to say.
Speaker 7 (21:23):
Clop clop clop clop. Ver, Clever, I've never heard of
this thing. You never heard all my favorite things. Clever
Hans the math horse is like a drug, Like you
just gave me a hallucinogenic drug by saying those words.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Sorry, Clever has the math Horse?
Speaker 1 (21:43):
All right?
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Yeah, I gotta tap out of this one, got it,
It's too much for me.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
That'd be a great nickname that like for a boxer. Yes,
Clever Hans the math Horse. It can be Clever Hans
or math Horse.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
You can't be so greedy that you have Clever Hans
math hords.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Yeah. I mean you would have to be very good
at boxing to support that moniker.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Iron Clever Hans the math.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
Yes, this boxer keeps kicking us with his hind legs.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Guys, do you think he knows that he's boxing or
is he just looking at his trainer for ques? Uh so? Yeah.
The controversy, as we learned with Coco in particular and
with other primate experiments, was that people thought she could
understand something like two thousand spoken words in English and
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communicate them through some version of sign language that I'm
making up here. And the idea then became that she
was able to connect words to make concepts, which is
a very human type of communication. So she might know
the word for trash and then the word for cat,
and then you'd show her a raccoon and she would say, oh,
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trash cat, and people are like, that's you're fucking amazing.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
That's so smart. She's basically a poet. That's actually what
we should call raccoons.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
And well, the the that's the search history. It's ruined.
Sperm alphabet. Yeah, it's it's over for me, you guys.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Sperm alphabet done.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
I've heard I've read like studies Okay, I listen to
them on the podcast about like prairie voles being or
prairie dogs, one of the prairie animals having pretty complex
or like easy to decode languages, and like that they
were able to like figure out that one of them
was like for color, so like somebody they'd be like, okay,
(23:50):
yellow guy coming and red guy coming. And it's all
chirps does Yeah, it's little chirps. But they they were
able to record an off of them and get a
sense of like they had words for, like attack from above,
and you know red shirt got attack from red shirt guys.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
From red shirt guy attacked a shirt guy.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Yeah, the scientists maybe should have stopped attacking them. I
feel like not good science. All right, let's take a
quick break. We'll be back to talk overrated, underrated, and
why we're all gonna die.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
We'll be right back.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
And we're back. I still that still goes. It started
start a zoom call with a friend or maybe a
new acquaintance or yeah, always it still still works. The
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great podcaster Matt Appadaka, who we now work with, has
really shown me them he's gonna I'm making it sound
like he was the first person to do I think
I started doing it, but he approved it, and that's
that's huge. I don't want to just smirch his good name.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
That guy's name sounds like a spell.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
It is it is it is, actually, yeah, he is.
It's a it's a Harry Potter. I don't know Harry
Potter well enough to make a reference, so I just
said it's a Harry Potter.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Then maybe shut your mouth, maybe shut your your muggle mouth.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Water you don't swim well enough to tread or somebody
ben what's something he thinks underrated for right now?
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Mustaches? We uh we scooped ourselves a bit in the beginning. Uh,
but we spent some time pissing off our producer off
air because I have a mustache that my girlfriend is
clowning me so hard about. I did the grown think,
you know, I shaved and went through, as you said, Jack,
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the permutations, and I got a oh I got I
got told that I look I get roasted heart. So
I got told I look so Belgian that I might
do like Belgium. I have specific opinions about chocolate, French
fries and King Leopold.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Uh and worst of all, Yeah, and it's kind of
a wide mustache. It does. You could be wearing a
like old timey one piece bathing costume in that mustache.
I feel like and lifting like a bar barbell then
has round weights on the edg end of it. Yeah,
(26:46):
or triangle it, you know what I mean. Like it's
that's that's kind of what I'm picturing. It does. It
does like kind of change your vibe in a fun way.
I do like it. I like I like non mustache Ben. Also,
you know I don't.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
That's kind you know, next time I'll go whatever the
old Old Testament thing is where it's the beard without
the mustache and it's just like the what's that what's
that called the chin strap thing? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Yeah, chin strap neck beard, old chin strap neck beard.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
I feel like there's a specific Amish or Mormon name
for it. Yeah, that sounds fancier. You've come to the
right place if you want the name for the Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Yeah, gonside general.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Side.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Yeah, yeah, it does feel it feels civil worrying that one.
What is something, Ben, do you think is overrated?
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Le boo boo? Are you guys familiar with those.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Boo they're making the greatest leboo boo? Yeah, we're we're
familiar as people who have a podcast about the zeitgeist. Yeah,
we've been aware of this one.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
So I was. I was overseas recently, and uh, the
the l booboo thing was again, like, you know, let's
be honest with this mustache. I look at the guy.
I look like the guy who has a cop at
the protest trying to be cool, you know, like, hey, guys,
(28:18):
you would be you would be really kick ass if
we all exchange names, addresses and you know, like places
we go routinely.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Yeah, and so with that tricks.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
So he's he's uh, he's real plugged in. Uh, I
am very plugged out. I learned about the Boo boo
like anybody else who was uncool, by getting yelled at
about it by people cooler than me. And I realized
there is this global conspiracy of people carrying around the
(28:56):
boo boos and they're like fucking freemasons.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Man.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
They just nodded each other. They have a hanging from
like their bags or their backpacks. And then and I
don't know if they have a secret handshake, Like I
don't know how deep this goes, but I do think
it's overrated.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
And you said the pronunciation of it in particular.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Oh no, I added pronunciation as overrated because you said
you one time pronounced on we Oh yeah, so that's
another thing I think is overrated. Pronunciation. Yeah, pronunciations, pronunciation
in general over it.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Yeah. By the way, we have learned from super producer
Catherine that the beard no mustache is called the whaler
appropriately and the Whaler Melville. So I guess I gotta
see what that looks like. I think that that was
a type of facial hair that I experimented with a
young No, Mike, yeah it was, it was.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
It was more.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
It was like pre when I could grow a full beard.
So it's just like sha Shaggy with whiskers. Shaggy Whispers
is what I.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Wanted to Shaggy Whispers versus the math Horse.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Okay, yeah, Shaggy Whispers is my uh slash fiction about
the Scooby Doo universe. Yeah, yeah, a tell all book.
Shaggy Whispers. That's all right, let's uh should we get
into the the old Well that's not good. Update of
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the day.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Well that's what I yeah, but.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
What you want to hear from a doctor and also
you know the opening line of a news story written
by a Canadian about your country. Well that's not good. Yes. So,
just weeks after being confirmed CDC head Susan Mineraz has
been fired. She was initially asked to resign but refused
and was fired by HHS, which I guess she was like,
(31:05):
I can't really be fired by them. I would need
to be fired by the president and he was like, okay, right,
and I don't know if you remember who the president
iscause it's kind of my thing. It's my favorite thing.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Now, yeah, lebbye.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
So she was fired because Susan Minariras is not aligned
with the president's agenda of making America healthy again. And
this was because she wouldn't quote rubber stamp vaccine recommendations.
That quote flew in the face of science, which is bad.
Like we we had a centeni it might be coming.
It's it's just going in a real worst case scenario direction.
(31:47):
With RFK Junior as the head of we had a sense,
maybe I don't know, putting this, putting a guy who
was a vaccine skeptic kind of famously that was what
he was famous for, putting him into are of healthcare
for the entire country, that that could go badly, and
it seems like things are going very badly. Several other
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CDC senior officials have resigned as a result this. I'm
somewhere between can't these fucking idiots do a single thing right?
And can't these fucking idiots do a single thing that
isn't exactly the wrongest thing you could possibly do? At
that moment, you know, like it's like I'm not even
asking that they do it right. It's like just that
(32:29):
they not be fucking like just exactly wrong seeking missiles.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
That's the issue, right, How at what threshold, past what
threshold does incompetence become intentional malevolence?
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Right?
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Like? How randomly can one fandom?
Speaker 2 (32:51):
That's my reaction to this.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
This is so random, you guys, This is random.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
We are winning the lottery of bad choices.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
You know, in college, a lot of the girls I
do would like to refer to things as random, and
I think that is the funniest way to possibly refer
to this whole Oh my god, this presidency is so random.
Randy Randosa, one of them, would say, and that person
is a gene Whoever came up with Randy Randosa is
(33:25):
a genie?
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Gin, but uh yeah, I don't know that. We also
learned this week that they're scaling back food safety monitors
finally for food born diseasing. You've been pushing for this
for a while. Then talk on that about that.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Yeah, you upped in Sinclair. Yeah, you know how it
is you walk through a grocery store. Why shouldn't it
be a casino. You know what I mean. I'm an
Isle twelve. I'm in Isle eleven. We got some canned stuff?
Is it beans? Let roll the goddamn dice.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Yeah, splash guards are fucking constricting. I want the food
sitting out.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
I want nothing to stop my spit, my clean American spit,
from getting on this food that I don't know how
long it's been out for. It's none of my business,
that's right.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
If we needed to guard the food, let's put the
National Guard there.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
We guard this clear plastic yes, more National Guard.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
That National Guard the only, uh, the only protection against
the salad with a bad with some con it's a
National Guard member.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Sound good? Sound good?
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Justin? Please fix that in post.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
Right, That's easily fixable. Right, heyst could you make me
sound smart and sane? Thanks very much? Could you sound
like less like I'm on the verge of just buckling
under the pressure of our collapsing society? Thanks Justine, Justin.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
Thanks Justin. CDC is in Atlanta. So this is uh,
this is a matter of local import right with with
I would argue, of course national, but indeed global consequences right.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Whipples replacing it with a bass pro shop Yeah, another
feeling they could like redesign the CDC to like have
more of a bass pro shop vibe to live there.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Now, Ye when you guys have him on the show,
he'll be like, fun fact about me my house used
to be. Do you guys remember the Center for Disease
Control and Prevention.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
Remember back then?
Speaker 2 (35:55):
So just a little bit more on the food, the
food stuff, because this is one of those things that
is like fairly invisible. Like a lot a lot of
the jobs that are being taken away and like you know,
the government spending that's being cut. Are these things that
are like just don't get any attention, and like Donald
Trump is only cares about things that get ratings, and
so these are the invisible you know, scaffolding behind the
(36:20):
scenes that like saves people's lives. And it just under
a Trump administration where you know, as we talked about
in the run up to the election, like the scary
thing about this second administration the first administration he like
you remember that first meeting with Obama where he was
like what the fuck just happened? And he seems scared,
(36:41):
and he was like, I'm gonna let the professionals handle
this one. Like I kind of did this as a joke,
and it took him a while to like ramp up
his indignation about not being able to like, you know,
do whatever he wanted. And now he is doing whatever
he wants, and it's he's not meant to lead a
(37:02):
complicated government that is saving many people's lives in very
boring ways. He's just like he doesn't have the attention
span for it. So, you know, the doctor Jay Glenn Morris,
whose name I don't know, never wanted to know, the
director of Emerging Pathogen Institute at the University of Florida,
(37:23):
is you know, making sense of this and has said
that he helped create food Net in nineteen ninety five
and we've been benefiting from it unknowingly for the past
however many years it's been since nineteen ninety five, I've
got to think at least fifteen fifteens. Anyways, he said, essentially,
CDC is backing off one of their best surveillance systems.
(37:44):
And this article that is in I think it's like
on CBS dot com, but it just keeps adding there like,
which is bad because in April, Reuter's reported that the
Food and Drug Administration was suspending a quality control program
for testing dairy product. A week before that, Renters reported
that the Trump administration was suspending a quality control program
(38:06):
for its food testing laboratories as a result of staff cuts.
That news came two weeks after, and it just keeps
going with the Department of Health and Human Services announced
wide ranging cutbacks at federal health agencies, including scientists who
tested food and drugs for contamination of or deadly bacteria.
That news came two weeks after The Times reported the
(38:29):
FDA delayed by nearly three years implementation of a requirement.
And this is kind of a harsh requirement, Like this
is anti business, all right, When I explain it, you'll
understand why they had to cut a requirement that food
companies and gross is rapidly trace contaminated food through the
supply chain and pull it off the shelves. Okay, brother,
(38:53):
let's not go crazy here.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
Wow, all right? Or well, yeah, The day.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
Before that, the Times published the newspaper ran a related
article that at the FDA freeze on government credit card spending.
They were just like they froze the FDA's credit cards
that they used to like fund their research. They froze that.
So they could no longer staff. It impeded staff members
from buying food to perform routine tests for deadly bacteria.
Speaker 4 (39:21):
So like they were they my wife freezing credit cards?
I know what the hell right, let me spend.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
That's my draft King's credit card.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Baby, Yeah, did you not think about the cash back?
Speaker 2 (39:35):
The list keeps going. The Times also reported that the
administration has sloughed or stopped some food testing of grocery
adams for hazardous bacteria, monitoring monitoring of shellfish. So so far,
the specific ones that they've stopped monitoring are dairy and shellfish.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
You got to them, those are the two.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
Those are two of the ones that I want somebody
to keep it an eye on. I feel like, you know, yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
Also, just to be clear, we are doing gallows humor.
There is no whistle like your graveyard whistle. So I
think it's safe to say that we are fans of
this kind of infrastructure. It's kind of like how if
you're a human, you don't notice that your heart is
beating all the time right until it's not, and that's
(40:20):
when you run into a problem.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
This kind of stuff is, man, you just thinking about
it your head.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
Don't get in your head about it. What's happening? I
don't like it. I don't like it.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
Anytime. If you want to know what it was like
to smoke weed with me, the answers we do and
it's going too fast.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
Think it's going to fast.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
See everything I can't tell you can deep enough breath?
Speaker 1 (40:53):
Do my hands? Are? They are? They are? They are?
Speaker 2 (40:57):
They have my head?
Speaker 1 (41:00):
But this is this is pretty pretty concerning, and I
don't I obviously, I don't think any of us want
to feel like a baton death march or whatever. But
the the stuff that is getting cut, I think really
speaks to you guys idea about incompetence versus malevolence, Like
(41:22):
how can you be that specifically bad at innocuous things
that often.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
I think I yesterday we were talking about this thing
that Trump's doing with the with environmental policy, where he's
like keeps saying, well, windmills like don't work when the
wind stops blowing, and the you know you can't have
energy proofs by women, and like really and like the
windmills are killing whales, and like these things that seem
(41:54):
really dumb and like have no scientific backing, but they
come from a bunch of research, like millions of dollars
of research being done by the smartest people, Like the
smartest Ivy League graduates all come out, and the jobs
that pay the most are like going to work for
oil companies and doing research on like how to counter
(42:17):
program like messaging about climate change, how to react, how
to redact research. I'm a professional redactor. I make nine
hundred thousand dollars a year. So like there's all this
energy and money being put into whatever is going to
make the most money in that case, like getting rid
(42:38):
of any environmental policies that stand in the way of
oil companies making as much money as they possibly can.
And I think with shit like this, where like these
policies get in the way of food companies being able
to make as much money as they want to, and
they're like annoying to food companies to have to like
(42:58):
pay attention to this shit. So all the stuff that
seems like malevolence is just them doing the you know,
taking away of any policies that get in the way
of companies, you know, getting the way of money like
flowing as quickly and you know, frictionlessly as possible to
the biggest corporations. Like I think that's where all of
(43:20):
this is coming.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
From, regularly recapture.
Speaker 4 (43:23):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. And another scary thing too at getting
back to is it Manaras Is that how you pronounced Susan's.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm going I heard a newscaster
say it that way, and that's what we're going with.
Speaker 4 (43:33):
That's what we're that's what That's what Wolfe said. So
that's that's the same who you can't stop watching. But
my favorite, that's the scariest thing is that she is
someone who's fucked up enough for Trump to be okay
to appoint to that position to begin with, and this
person E won't even this is a bridge too far.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
And what they're asking her to do a Trump appointee.
She's like, well, that's gonna like be so bad, right,
Like obviously I can't do that. And they're like, well
then you're fired.
Speaker 4 (44:04):
If this is not a holdover from like the Jimmy Carter, No, yeah,
this is fresh, this is a fresh hire. I take
a D plus at this point, like you said, like
like a heat seeking missile for like being wrong. It's
not even like we're asking for an A plus, you know,
because that's impossible it's like anything but an f minus.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
Like if you can get a deep atander, it's possible. Yeah,
But well, I think we're inside a system that has
been fucked by unregulated capitalism for decades and decades, and
so anything that is just worsening that is going to
seem like it's exactly the wrong thing, because it is.
(44:46):
It's exactly the worst possible thing that could happen to
the country at this point. But because our options are
either the existing market driven thing that everybody we now
have like three decades where people are like no more
of that, and you know, there's no opportunity for socialism
(45:08):
or like they'll find a way to like try and
fight that way. So there's no like official version of
like a left wing opposition. The only other option is fascism,
and so that's what we now have, yes, yeah, yeah,
the final resort right of fear. I think also DearS
I gained how the US slipped from descriptions of civilians
(45:33):
to consumers.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
You hear that often right? What happened to the pension?
It became the four oh one K, which comprises no
less than forty percent of the stock market. Let me look, sorry, guys,
I stumbled on this soapbox. Let me step off this.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
Yeah, get up there, careful, careful, careful, careful.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
Oh jeez, Well we're speaking to the choir while those
are still allowed right in modern day America. And how
weird is that's actually the US.
Speaker 3 (46:04):
We're going to have it's choirs.
Speaker 2 (46:08):
That's a good point, your universal basic income, you will
have to go sing in the choir.
Speaker 1 (46:13):
Oh gosh, yeah, full handmade's tale. But how could this,
how could this be a thing we cut? Like who
learns about the idea of food born illness and says,
I don't know, man kind of.
Speaker 2 (46:31):
Corporations whose jobs for whom it is expensive to not
do food born illnesses? I think those are the people.
And yeah, but that would be my that would be
my assumption, because yeah, it does. It does seem almost
like when you're just viewing it out of context, is
like it seems weird that they keep doing exactly the
wrong thing, like on purpose. But yeah, the vaccine thing,
(46:55):
I don't like that. That one's just like ideologically driven incorrect,
is going to kill a lot of people in a
way that like seems like it's pretty going to be
pretty transparently their fault but this that's not going to help.
Speaker 3 (47:11):
It seems to me where this is always to your point,
it's either business and money or quote unquote traditional values.
And I'm going to push actually back against you, Jack,
where I think this is a traditional values thing where
they want to get back to the era of getting
so sick whenever you eat, you know, like ray and
then like have a doctor travel by foot from.
Speaker 4 (47:35):
Ye blood letting, like we need to bring back blood letting,
make America a.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
Make America die from diarrhea again, exactly.
Speaker 3 (47:42):
Yeah, diarrhea death.
Speaker 1 (47:45):
By diarrhea.
Speaker 3 (47:47):
Yeah, MySpace dot com slash diarrhea death happens.
Speaker 1 (47:51):
I love it, my Space diary. But this is how it.
This is how what happens. It's never going to be
a full frontal thing. It's going to be some infra
nation management on you know whatever your local favorite Fox
news is where someone uh someone says, hey, uh this
just in toilet paper prices are through the roof, which
(48:14):
has a lot of people talking about whether diarrhea is
good for you. We're going now to the last doctor
or just the last doctor final the last doctor.
Speaker 2 (48:28):
By the way, many people die of diarrhea every year,
I should say especially young children.
Speaker 1 (48:33):
Right.
Speaker 2 (48:34):
Yeah, well there's going to be more Yeah, it should
be more common. It should be a thing that we're
all talking about. You know, that's the issue, because it's funny,
and that'll be funny. That'll make things funny, make them
and unavoidable. Can we avoid this? We're making We're making
comedy legal again, folks.
Speaker 1 (48:51):
Make America go fa again.
Speaker 4 (48:53):
You can't say anything anymore. We'll be right back. You're
listening to the Daily Zekeece on the iHeartMedia Network.
Speaker 2 (48:59):
I was waiting for it.
Speaker 4 (49:00):
Ninety three point three wm R. That's Philadelphia radio station,
who which I do get money every time I promote
the money.
Speaker 2 (49:20):
And we are back, Blake, how did it feel to
take us to break God?
Speaker 3 (49:26):
I think I made Tommy John's after throwing the commercial
so far hurt my HOPO.
Speaker 1 (49:34):
Up, I'll say it, I'll say it. I'm not I'm
not too proud. Blake. You look taller, Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (49:42):
I feel so tall. I feel taller. Have you guys
met anybody who seems like they got a lot taller
in adulthood and you think that they might have gotten
that Lake breaking surgery.
Speaker 1 (49:52):
The gattigo surgery.
Speaker 2 (49:54):
The were they one person who I met at I
saw the reunion and was like.
Speaker 1 (50:00):
What the fuck did they really? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (50:03):
They would never admit it, but they are. They went
from being I think, like a normal sized person to
like officially a full on, like tall tall person, where
like the first thing you notice is like, oh, you're
like tall. You stand out in a crowd over everybody else.
Speaker 1 (50:21):
Look at the shoes.
Speaker 2 (50:23):
I spent a lot of time looking at them. It
was all Unfortunately, it was all I talked about the
whole reunion, and everybody was like, all right, man, like
could you buddy, maybe you should start drinking again.
Speaker 3 (50:37):
See CTV footage and it's just like Jack staring at
like a clown that they hired on stilts and it's like,
for a Jack, Jesus, this person.
Speaker 2 (50:44):
You don't even know this guy.
Speaker 3 (50:45):
You didn't go to school with this guy.
Speaker 1 (50:47):
This isn't even your high school. Why are you here?
Speaker 2 (50:53):
All right, We've got big news for Wizard of Oz fans. Yeah,
who like to just Wizard of Oz fans hopefully enjoy
are like into like subdom stuff and just getting kicked
in the shins repeatedly because we talked about how the Sphere.
Their latest offering is going to be Wizard the Wizard
(51:15):
of Oz, but like remade for the Sphere. And what
they've done is they've taken the shots from the movie
and they have expanded them outward so that now like
you can see just like bare parts of the wall
in Dorothy's home and like some furniture, and like one
(51:39):
of them is like Uncle Ben or whatever her uncle's
name is, just like standing in a doorway, like looking
at his dick, just like looking downward, like the real
trouble AI has real trouble with like Eyeline. You know,
you may have noticed like that they're always like not
looking necessarily in the right direction.
Speaker 3 (51:59):
None of it's story building either. You're right.
Speaker 4 (52:01):
It's like I wonder what v Oz her grandmother would
have bought kept in that corner of the house. It's like,
we don't need this. It's just not that surprising.
Speaker 1 (52:12):
It's also Uncle Henry, who is Uncle Henry softly softly
considering masturbation on the sea just because we called it
Uncle Ben, which is from Spider Man, So and Rice, Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (52:30):
Aconomically they're the same Uncle. Actually the world whose world
is this?
Speaker 1 (52:36):
The World's yours go. So, uh that that's kind of
that head cannon stuff is cool, But now what we're
seeing with the AI reckoning is head cannon for a
head that does not exist. Right, there are too many,
they're too It sounds deep unless you think about it.
(52:58):
Nobody think about it. Yeah on that Ben, all right,
just consider it what we would call podcast true. Uh
so that's right. Wow, thanks guys.
Speaker 2 (53:10):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (53:11):
I liked you guys. Liked playing Pink Floyd and watching
Wizard of the Odds. Wizard of the Odds. Wow, plugged
me into the entry Wizard of the Odds. The So
head canon.
Speaker 2 (53:26):
Is like just like all that shit like stuff that's
like kind of made up, but like fan fiction ideas
and stuff like that. Yeah, yeah, I think it's many
times better than what like there are fan theories that
end up being better than what the writers come up with.
Like during the Harry Potter craze, people had this like
(53:48):
fan theory that it was actually like Neville long Bottom
was secretly the chosen One and like Harry was like
a distraction who like heroically was distracting Voldemort from Nevill
long Bottom and then like it was going to end
up being this and it would like be this cool
morality story of like no, just because it's not all
(54:10):
like based on lineage and eugenics, and you know, it
could it could be this surprising thing where this guy
with a name that essentially translates to long.
Speaker 3 (54:23):
But he got too hot was the problem he became.
Speaker 1 (54:26):
To break out? Yeah, they couldn't afford him.
Speaker 2 (54:29):
They couldn't And instead it was just like no, Harry
Potter's the show's the other Really, there was another one
with the Twilight Universe that I just like don't remember
the details of the Twilight Universe well enough to like explain,
but it was so much better. It's not I will
never forget myself.
Speaker 1 (54:49):
You're so hard on yourself. It's fine, Stop helping about Blake.
This is how it ends. Wait, but the Wizard of Oz, right,
hazard of the goddamn Oz. Yeah, respect of the damn.
Speaker 3 (55:05):
The Ohio State University.
Speaker 2 (55:09):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (55:10):
Think about it. Think about it, folks. Uh. Yeah, it's
a it's a fascinating series of young adult novels. But
like any other young adult fiction or film adaptations thereof,
I would argue it is vulnerable to being propagandized because
you're It's all about parables, right, you learn a lesson,
(55:32):
you do your little Joseph Campbell. Uh, you find adversity,
you find victory. You you you like t s Eliot said, Uh,
the essence of exploration is you return to the place
you left.
Speaker 2 (55:46):
And you know, for the first life saying it was
it was, it kind of got annoying after I never
got to s Eliot.
Speaker 1 (55:54):
Well, uh, he spent a lot of his life really
caused playing British. But but but he's definitely went.
Speaker 2 (56:02):
To the same high school as me. No, no way,
really nice, triasshole. I know where you're from from. You
fucking lose a vacation. She is.
Speaker 3 (56:24):
Sally went to that she is, But I don't know
what time anything is.
Speaker 1 (56:31):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (56:32):
I think that's the one that went to my school,
the one of what the famous fuckers used to.
Speaker 3 (56:44):
I also like Madonna. Sorry it was Madonna.
Speaker 1 (56:48):
It was Madonna. It was commonly confused. Yeah, Donna. No, like,
I have to google it too, man, I have to
look up the pictures. Just which one?
Speaker 2 (57:00):
Uh, Milton Academy is that the.
Speaker 1 (57:05):
You're still in the research for it, Milton Milton.
Speaker 2 (57:10):
Yeah, attended Milton Academy in Massachusetts. For a preparatory year.
All right, we're good here, justin it can stick, keep
all that, all right. So anyways, yes, Wizard of Oz
very powerful icon that can be filled with any meaning
that people want to put on it. Massive takes up
(57:32):
massive space and the shared consciousness, and that allows people
with power to come in and use it as they
would like. But we've got good news, folks. We're getting
a contemporary Wizard of Oz series on Amazon Prime. So
you know it's going to make a splash because shows
(57:53):
that cost a billion dollars and are based on the
Lord of the Rings just go there and like just
disappear and don't exist. So it's going to be on
Amazon Prime, and it's going to be executive produced by
Gwen Stefani and Blake Shelton, like Swish fucking way down town.
(58:16):
It's God. But okay, so now they're thinking a little
bit outside the box, you guys. Oh wow, this version
of the Wizard of Oz is going to be a
music infused Why a retelling of Wizard of Oz, which
the original movie was, I guess you could say music infused,
(58:38):
and also about a young adult.
Speaker 1 (58:40):
M'k with you?
Speaker 2 (58:43):
Okay, all right, we got another thing. In Dorothy, the
name of this Dorothy, it will be pronounced like in
The Golden Girls. The Yellow Brick Road will be quote
a metaphor for the challenges and choices facing young adults today,
whereas the original Yellow Brick Road had no metaphorical anything.
(59:07):
And this is the These are the first people who
are like, what if it was a fucking metaphor though.
Speaker 1 (59:14):
Gold Standard?
Speaker 2 (59:15):
Yes, right, it was originally that was originally What if
it was a metaphor for the gold Standard?
Speaker 3 (59:27):
It's the worst metaphor you could ever fucking imagine. The
gold Standard.
Speaker 2 (59:33):
People are a little concerned that a film franchise that
has historically been a fixture of the gay community is
now in the hands of a mega couple. And when
I heard them described as a mega couple, I was like,
all right, guys, Gwen Stefani, no doubt, was the first
concert that I ever went to without my parents six
(59:57):
years ago, the Reunion tour.
Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
I think we all have that. We all have that
moment too. Maybe it's maybe we are bubbled in our experience,
but I don't know about you, guys. I always have
that similar moment. Just off air, we were talking about
this and you guys, let me know that. Apparently when
Stefani from No Doubt is so what right wing, and
(01:00:26):
it's just always surprising to me because I'm like, oh,
you did sca though.
Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
Right, Yeah, like a thing that. Yeah, So that's what
I was about to get the fact that like I thought,
like Gwen Stefani was you know, just married to a
right wing guy and was still and also a major
cultural appropriator, but like I didn't think she was like
full full conservative. Apparently she's been pretty conservative even again
(01:00:53):
even though SKA music is at its core like anti fascist.
Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
She's very involved in one of those apps where you
can pay money to pray with her is owned by
Peter Teel. And she responded to an interview on social
media with a guy who acts in Christian like plays
Jesus in a Christian movie, saying, Wow, Jonathan Rumy, you
(01:01:17):
are a powerful, inspirational human. What an enlightening, intelligent, beautiful interview.
Thank you for being you. That interview took place on
the Tucker Carlson Show. Yeah, there's a whole hour and
a half long dive that goes into like her background
and how this actually shouldn't surprise anybody and we'll link
(01:01:40):
off to that in the footnotes. But it's anyways, it's
kind of a bummer, kind of a bummer, but Dorothy
should be. It should be a hoot that everybody will
stop and watch. And I think it's gonna finally happen
(01:02:01):
for Amazon Prime. You got this is the one. This
is the one Prime video.
Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
Jeff is right now, like he just walked out of
that uh pitch meeting we set up, and uh, he's
going to babe, this is the one. Remember how you
always told me Wizard of Oz was it propagandistic enough? Well,
we got it.
Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
There was like some metaphorical content in the Wizard of Oz.
Speaker 1 (01:02:27):
I don't know, I don't think the music's going to
be as good.
Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
You don't think so.
Speaker 1 (01:02:32):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:02:33):
You're gonna look so silly in nine years when this
movie finally.
Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
None of the other Wizard of Oz, like all somewhere
out no somewhere out there that's fible over.
Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
The rainbow, over the rainbow. Uh the if I only
had a brain.
Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
Yeah, if I had a brain, all the songs I'm
wicked skips skips in my whoa whoa? However wicked too?
You you go you go back and check out when
it's Fannie's latest country album, nary a Skip, Insight, all
Bangers from the beginning Dead.
Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
It's just that album.
Speaker 4 (01:03:13):
Yeah, it's a shame she got the same critiques that
Beyonce did when she released her I.
Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
Know A Country album the same year as Beyonce her
country album. But it's just an outright like just skipping.
Nobody even notices what what.
Speaker 1 (01:03:34):
That's why that? That's also by the way, folks, Uh,
that's what Miles is working on today.
Speaker 2 (01:03:41):
Is his country album.
Speaker 1 (01:03:42):
Yeah, he sit out to work on his country.
Speaker 4 (01:03:45):
Congrats to Miles. I listened to a little bit of
it and I yeah, it's it's great. It's it's great.
Transform Yeah, transformeriod.
Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
Some of the songs actually, like it seems like they
might be metaphorical you think of it. Yeah, that's Miles.
That's that.
Speaker 3 (01:04:01):
You expect that from Miles.
Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
Everything some metaphorical, metaphorical Miles. Yeah. Well, Ben Bolin, such
a pleasure having you on the podcast as always. Where
can people find you? Follow you all that good stuff?
Speaker 1 (01:04:14):
Oh yes, you can fine. Follow hang out with a
couple of shows. I do stuff. They don't want you
to know. Ridiculous history featuring the one and only Jack
and Miles not too infrequently to check that.
Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
Pretty frequently at this point.
Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
Yeah, I just say, like how I just guilt you
guys at the end of every show. Oh. Also, stuff
they don't want you to know is going to the
High Seas. We are part of a Virgin Voyages true
crime cruise that is happening. This is a true story.
On October tenth through the fifteenth, we're going to do
(01:04:52):
an episode about the Bermuda Triangle live in the Bermuda Triangle.
Check it out. You can a so I find me,
as Miles says, anywhere there's an at sign in a
burst of creativity calling myself at Ben Bullen.
Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
You maniac at that bully? What could it mean? I
think there's metaphorical content in there. Is there a work
of media that you've been enjoying?
Speaker 1 (01:05:16):
Ben? Yes? Absolutely? When Stefani uh no doubt, Uh come on,
come on, do soon?
Speaker 2 (01:05:27):
Do soon?
Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
For a callback? I have I have I have recently
for fans of mendanity and wholesomeness, I have recently done
some kind of like earwashing or like eye washed kind
of stuff by looking at this guy in Thailand who
(01:05:47):
just saves dogs. His name is Nil Harbison uh and
everything that he is oriented towards in his life is
just him finding with a his crew, finding street dogs
in Thailand, specifically attempting to save their lives and to
give them good homes.
Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
So that's pretty cool. That's awesome. Yeah, well sounds like
an asshole?
Speaker 3 (01:06:15):
Yeah, well, how is he making money off of this?
Speaker 2 (01:06:18):
What's his angle?
Speaker 1 (01:06:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (01:06:19):
I should have ended it with yeah, well yeah, yeah,
Well I think that's the only sunctuation I can understand
is yeah, well that's my period, Blake.
Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
Yeah, speaking of your period? Yeah, where can people find you?
Follow you in entire work media? You've been enjoying.
Speaker 3 (01:06:38):
I'm on it and people can find me at Blake
Wexler on all social media. Tonight and tomorrow I'm doing
stand up in wilkes Bury, Pennsylvania, and then these shows
tickets aren't on sale yet, but I will be in
Ashville September twenty sixth, Chicago December seventh, and a big
(01:06:58):
show in Brooklyn on January sixteenth, sixteenth, teenth, sixteenth, big
show teenth in January, and a thing to work of media.
Speaker 4 (01:07:12):
Six no, no, no, that was that was taken. I
try to do it every single year. I'm gonna be real,
I'll finally have had ten days to recover from the party.
Speaker 3 (01:07:24):
I've been doing hosting.
Speaker 4 (01:07:27):
So my wife is a is a writer and she
wrote an article for nat Geo last month speaking of animals.
Ticks are taking over city parks. Here's how to avoid those.
So yeah, that's good. So that's a thing. If you're
a dog person and you live in a city, check
your dog, even if like you're in Central Park or
(01:07:49):
whatever the city's park is, you should. I know it
sounds silly, but you should check your dog for ticks
after they're they're playing in the grass and stuff. Because
we found ticks on our dog, like you're in New York.
So yeah, so that's it's nice. Another nice piece of news.
But it's a good it's a good article.
Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
And if you're not like all the sheeople who have
dogs as pets, and if you had ticks as pets, yes,
your tick check for dogs. Got stuck on a dog
when you're playing with it in the park.
Speaker 1 (01:08:20):
Check your ticks for dogs? Jack, Jack, Where can people
learn more about you? Men?
Speaker 2 (01:08:26):
Oh man? So many places?
Speaker 3 (01:08:28):
And your rescue tick that you have dedicated it. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:08:35):
He saved me from a life without lyme disease. I'm
enjoying workimedia from David please stop, who wrote when I'm broke.
When I get paid again, I'm gonna start saving ship
for real this time, no unnecessary ship me. When I
get paid, Google, show me your most frivolous and worldly things.
(01:08:58):
I love the use of worldly there world frivolous and
worldly things is wonderful. That's at David, please stop or
a sad little man is there twitter handle? You can
find me on Twitter at jack Underscore of Brian at
Blue Sky at jack Obi the number one. You can
(01:09:19):
find us on Twitter and blue Sky at Daily Zeitgeist.
I believe it is. Yes, that's correct, we're at the
Daily Zeitgeist. On Instagram, you can go to the description
of this episode wherever you're listening to it. Open the episode,
go to where all the words are underneath the title
of the show, and underneath that description you'll find the
footnote where we link off to the information that we
(01:09:42):
talked about in today's episode. We also wake off to
a song that we think you might enjoy with Miles Out.
Super producer Justin Connor steps in and tells you a
song that he thinks you might enjoy, and also kind
of it gives you a little poetry. Well, he's at it,
justin their song that you think that people might enjoy.
Speaker 9 (01:10:02):
Yeah, So I don't usually recommend dance music on here
for some reason, but seeing as how I've started the
DJ again, I've been listening to a lot more of it.
And also it's Friday, so this song sounds like if
you put pop vocals over the start menu music in
the Sega Fighting game, and it's it's very uptempo, it's
very fun. It'll get your weekend started right. So this
(01:10:25):
track is called in Your Arms by shift key spelled
K three.
Speaker 2 (01:10:29):
Y, and you can find that in the footnotes footnotes.
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For more podcasts from my Heart Radio, visit Yeah Heart Radio,
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That's going to do it for us. This week we're back.
You got an episode tomorrow that's uh, you know, the
highlights from this week's season. And on Monday, we're trying
(01:10:51):
a new thing. We we have it. We have a
thing called oops all over rated, Underrated where we just fun. Yeah,
we just through and highlight some of our favor overrated,
underrated for the past couple of months. So we'll be
dropping that. We might be dropping our very weird US
open episode at some point. All of that, plenty more
(01:11:12):
and we will talk to y'all on Tuesday. New episode
dropping Tuesday. Talk to y'all then bye right. The Daily
Zeite Guys is executive produced by Catherine Long, co produced
by Bee Wag, co produced by Victor Wright, co
Speaker 3 (01:11:27):
Written by J M McNabb, edited and engineered by Justin Connor.
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