Roy Moore Disappears, Trump’s Insane Media Diet 12.11.17

In episode 45, Jack & Miles are joined by comedian Caitlin Gill to discuss Trump's diet & television intake, Mario Batali & treatment of restaurant workers, Trump accusers, Silicon Valley, the NY terrorist attack, Golden Globe, Roy Moore, & more

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season ten, Episode one
of Dust Daily See Guys for December eleven, two thousand
seven tea. My name is Jack O'Brien, a K. Potatoes O'Brien,
and I'm joined by my co host, Mr Miles Gray.
Yes it is I Miles. Don't lie to the FBI?
How was everybody? And we are thrilled to be joined

(00:20):
by We're the second time the hilarious stand up and
hilarious podcast guest with one of our audience and our
favorite first time around, Caitlyn Gil. Hey mess with the
Gil You get the whole piranha. That's pretty good. Ready
to shine, Let's get the whole piranha, which she says

(00:41):
anytime she enters the room too. Oh man, I should
open the door. You messed with the Guiltperana. I don't
know well how popular dinner guest them. I feel like
after the second time, feels like she's broken three doors
and now he can't have me. That's one of those
jokes she push Pats I'm funny into really funny, But

(01:03):
I don't. I don't. I don't want to invest that much, okay,
but I would actually would like to see that joke
of off over. Yeah, eventually the absurdity of it will
turn into that what's something premier search history that is
revealing about who you are? Oh man, I definitely looked
up a lot about the difference between dry skin and

(01:24):
flea bites, both for myself and my dog. Um again
that I'm speaking very naturally. That is the first piece
of revealing information that came into my mind to tell you.
I'm sure there's grosser things in my search history, like
step families doing things to each other, but I just
like to explore America's fantasies anyway. Uh, yeah, both my
dog and I roach, and I was trying to determine

(01:44):
if it was our skin attacking us or other animals.
Did you have anything like visually to suggest like it
was still up in the air, because I feel like
flea bites are like little little red bit they are
little in red I found out when I was in
Atlanta for a couple of months, and I am allergic
to fire it's and now I'm afraid of every insects
biting me. Ever, so there was some cross research with
the possibility of being allergic. I just wanted to know

(02:07):
what my dog was a chat and then I rubbed
her with oil and now she's not anymore. Yeah, fish
oil is great for dogs. Yes, I used to vitahim
in e based oil thing. She's anyway so hot tips
Daily sit guys, listeners, got a nitchy dog? You just
rubb that ship with oil? What kind of oil you
can use? Anything? Motor oil? I mean i'd refrain, but
if you want to run right, you fill it up
with motor oil everything thousand miles followed up with palm

(02:29):
olive to wash it off like they do those ducks. Kitlin.
What's something that you think is overrated? Can I give
you my underrated first? Because I have a here. They're
a little bit related. Thank you for letting me shake
up your ears. If anyone shake up underrated night drives.
I just took a night drive last night. I came
back to l A from San Francisco because I wanted

(02:49):
to be here with you for this podcast. This morning,
no traffic, no sun, beautiful moonlight. I don't have to
look at the fields on the five because there's nothing
much to look at. Not trying to insult you, Gustine,
but honestly, honey or not that pretty from the outside. Uh,
it was just how I shouldn't have called out a
specific town, Gustine, I said that name because I routinely
used the gas station outside of your city. I respect you,

(03:10):
and I'm glad you're there. Now. They're gonna be checking
for you next time you go to on my five spot.
I just love a night drive for its speed, and people,
you know, underrated because it's like, guess, nighttime when you'd
rather be sleeping. But babe, you just sleep in as
long as you can and then you hit that that
great American highway in the nighttime, just you and truckers.
So by night drive you just mean like sort of
traveling by car at night rather because I know some

(03:30):
people like to just go for a drive. I'm not
one of those people. And I thought, for a second,
you just meant like, you know, it's great, just blowing
some steam off. That's great. Yeah, I think that also
might be underrated. A little stressed, can't sleep, just take
yourself out first bit and make sure you can't sleep.
But I've never gone to this extent, but some people
will take their children who they can't get to sleep,

(03:51):
into the car and drive around because children fall asleep
pretty easily in cars. My friend Chris does that with
his son over that, and he'll call me from a
van and be like, yo, Oliver sleeping, but let's talk
right now. The only time I'm like, all right, cool,
we're just chilling in the driveway right now, alright and overted.
Finally the eagerly awaited overrated sleep. Who needs it? Man?

(04:13):
Right now? I feel great. I definitely didn't you one
extra B vitamin gummy before I came here, just depending
on the surge of power. Uh No, I feel wonder
sleep because just because your body demands it, what just
because if you don't, you will actually die. I don't
understand what the hell, lou No, No, I don't know
about this, this sleeping thing. I mean, wow, you can

(04:36):
do B vitamins and B like wired. That's great. Oh
I don't know if that actually works, but it's what
I've told myself that we're calling speed now yea to
be one of those things like as catalog. We look
at it now and it's like you drugged out weirdos,
like fifty years they're going to look back at my
medicine cabinet, like can you believe she took eight thousand
percent of her b twelves on purpose this later track. Yeah,

(04:58):
that's all right, let's get in format. We're trying to
take a sample of the ideas out there changing the world,
trying to take the temperature of the shared consciousness of
the human species or the nation at the very least.
What do you what do we think in the temperature
like ninety nine point five? I feel like we're a
little cold right now, all right, cold core temperature maybe

(05:20):
a ninety seven point eight. We're not quite at that
ninety point six, but you know what do I know?
And the way we like to open up is by
asking our guest what something is that the zeitgeist that
the national shared consciousness has wrong? And from their experience, Well,
I'm the one who thinks sleep is overrated, so maybe
don't believe me. Uh, but cocaine is perfectly healthy? Yeah? Yeah,

(05:43):
well right right? I mean, can't that just be my myth? Uh? Dill?
I guess I think last time I was here, my
myth had to do with the ability of people of
size to make adequate love. Again. I don't know why
I went to that, but but there it is. Um,
I don't know. I think I'm stuck with the road,

(06:04):
and I guess, uh, the myth is that highways are
full of America's best serial killers. And I'm gonna say
that maybe not. Uh, maybe they've sought other jobs. I
felt very safe on the highway in the past two nights.
I'm going to say that America's highways are largely free
of serial roaming serials. We're declaring it right here and now.
Uh we at cracked. We once interviewed a UM trucker

(06:25):
and they told us that from that high vantage point,
you can like see in other people's cars, and people
are masturbating and having a lot more sex than you
would think while driving whilst driving on America's highways. Oh,
maybe this is a myth we need to talk about,
because honey, yes, yeah, that's happening. Masturbating while driving seems wild. Yeah,

(06:46):
that's way more dangerous than drawing the I'm gonna say
that it's not. I'm gonna say for a fact, God,
am I the only person in the room who's done it.
Unin I feel it's less. I mean, maybe people assume
that it's rare for women. It's not. It'll really clear
your mind. I well, I'm one of these people who
has orgasms where I have no motor skill control at

(07:08):
any point, Like, I can't. I couldn't just be cool
and like hold the steer. I mean, there's no way
I would crash the car and probably kill myself. We
don't need to focus on this for long, but I'm fascinated.
There is no degree of severity or intensity for your orgasm.
You have a one note, high pitched, super allpowered orgasm
every orgasm, Yeah, I guess certain, man I have, Yet

(07:29):
I would jerk the wheel. It's not a thing that
I can control. Like how I can't be like I'm
gonna have a one right now? Okay, this would be
a time. So like, what if I tried to have
one wild driving? I think I think everybody around me
would be in some trouble. Yeah, So shout out to
the people who have the steely nerves to masturbate while driving,

(07:50):
because maybe you guys are the real heroes out there.
Whatever you know, whatever it takes. Yeah, I just need
that danger, need to be flying in through the air
at seventy miles per hour to uh get things going
to It's like the cousin of Otto Erotic exactly. Thank

(08:14):
you very much. For all right, Nick, we can cut recording.
We got we got it. Um, all right, let's get
into the news of the day. Uh, there was a
terror attack this morning, but that was not our president's
first tweet of the day. Rather, it was his response to, Uh,

(08:34):
this amazing New York Times article that came out over
the weekend might have come out on Friday, but it
was actually printed it. It was their front page article
yesterday and the Sunday Times. Uh, in the actual paper
paper version. Because I was on vacation, I read paper
paper versions of the newspapers and I'm on vacation, and uh.
In the paper it was called President versus the Presidency,

(08:55):
but that's I don't think what it was called in
the online version. But it was just sort of a
run through of like a day in the life of
Donald Trump during the first year of his presidency. And
he wanted to let people know that he doesn't watch
that much TV. This morning and his first tweet of
the day. But because because that's where the president started,

(09:18):
that's where we're going to start. We'll get to the
terrort tack a little later on. Um. But so among
the highlights, uh, he drinks twelve diet cokes a day, uh,
and watches anywhere from four to eight hours of TV
a day. Um. There's this great moment where they talk
about not just the rumor that he watches a lot

(09:39):
of TV, but his response to the rumor. So during
his trip to Asia, Uh, he was handed a fact
check sheet that mentioned, uh, you know this fact that
he watches four day eight hours of TV a day.
And so during like the press grum where the media,
he goes back and sits with the media on air

(10:00):
Force one or they come up and hang with him. Uh.
Somebody asked him a question about Roy Moore, and his
response was, believe it or not. Even when I'm in
Washington and New York, I do not watch much television.
People that don't know me, they like to say I
watched television people with fake sources, you know, fake reporters,
fake sources. But I don't get to watch much television,

(10:22):
primarily because of documents. I'm reading documents a lot. I
actually read much more. I read you people, much more
than I watch the TV. I haven't been able to
devote very much time to it. Uh. Hey, I read documents.
I'm too busy reading these dot documents well, I'm reading PaperWorks.

(10:45):
They put words on the pieces. I don't watch the
electronic flipbook. Um. I love. It's like the press is
asking him, sir, did you get a d in history? Sir?
Did you get a D minus in history? I did
not get enough in algebra? Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, asking
you about a separate failure. And the question we were
asking you was about a separate fault. Uh. My favorite

(11:06):
quote from the article is uh. Is not not a
quote that he said, but just the way the article
is written. They say uh to an extent that would
stunt outsiders. Mr Trump, the most talked about human on
the planet, is still delighted when he sees his name
in the headlines, and he is on a perpetual quest
to see it there. One former top advisor said Mr

(11:26):
Trump grew uncomfortable after two or three days of peace
and could not handle watching the news without seeing himself
on it. So you know when it seems like, wow,
we're actually having moments where Trump isn't dominating the headlines,
and then he suddenly like surges back to the headlines
by doing something crazy that is by design. He is
like whoa Trump has not been making people completely terrified

(11:51):
or angry on a like daily basis for a while.
So and is it his addiction to it? To Twitter?
Basically in like social media, that feedback loop of like
do the thing and then I get likes or retweets.
It's permeated into like, Okay, now I've conquered Twitter. Now
go another level. I guess world News, which is like
the ultimate Twitter, and I can just be like, I'm
gonna say one thing. Oh now look at me, I'm

(12:12):
back on back on the pages. What's interesting too about that?
There's another line from the article about how he'll even
call people up when he thinks he has a fire tweet,
and one of it says in June, according to a
long time advisor, he excitedly called friends to say he
had the perfect tweet to neutralize the Russia investigation. He
called it a quote witch hunt. They were unimpressed. Oh

(12:33):
my god, can you imagine if a comedian friend did
that to you. I got a fire take. Oh god.
It's funny that it's you know, people politically, unless I
have been talking about Trump, uh with you know, he's
using this strategy that every time the news gets serious
about Prussia or another scandal that could harm his presidency.

(12:53):
He strategically says something ridiculous on Twitter to descract us
all as if there isn't a day when there's not
a story about that could take down his presidency. That's
every day. There is no master plan behind his dumb
toilet tweets. He's just crapping and crapping. That's all that's happening.
I've been watching too much Twilight Zone. There's a classic
episode that you probably know as a pop culture reference

(13:14):
about a little boy who can do anything he wants
with his mind and a whole town that just appeases
him because he's terrifying. He can wish you into the cornfield,
and then you just disappeared into the cornfield where all
the other bad things went. So everything's good. Oh, that's
very good that you did that. It's very good that
you made that human being disappeared into a horrible, nameless fate.
That's very good. And I knew that episode is like

(13:36):
a cultural touchdown, but I didn't remember the ending, uh,
And I watched it recently and there is no ending.
The town just stays like that, that that shitty kid
wishes a nice man into the cornfield and then the
end of the episode is like, I guess that was great.
I guess he turns a man's head into a jack
in the box so it pops off his body, and
then they his parents begged him to wish that grotesque

(13:59):
vision into the corn field. That's good end of the episode.
That's what we're living in. It's good that you tweeted that,
Mr President a horrified cowering staff hanging around a towheaded
little idiot boy who can wish people into a cornfield
or you know, a detention center with his numb mind. So,
speaking of cowering staff, the article says during the morning,

(14:19):
aids monitor Fox and Friends live or through a transcription service,
and much the way commodities traders might keep tabs on
market futures to predict the direction of their day. If
someone on the show says something memorable and Mr Trump
does not immediately tweet about it, the president staff knows
he may be saving Fox News for later viewing on

(14:40):
his recorder and instead watching MSNBC or CNN live, meaning
he is likely to be in a foul mood to
start the day. They're like, oh, he's gonna be mad.
He's not watching his his favorite show, America's God. It's
like we're a housewife hoping we don't burn the roast
so we don't get hit again. This is ridiculous, he uh,

(15:02):
he also said before. The article also mentions that before
taking office, he told top Aids to think of each
presidential day as an episode and a television show in
which he vanquishes rivals. That's the person deeply connected with reality, right, realitysion.
But even like that's he's thinking about it as like

(15:24):
carefully plotted, unrealistic. He's like, so every one of my
days should be like movie where there's a Hollywood ending
where I like am the hero and you make me
believe that Okay, yeah, yeah, you totally kicked Kim Jong
UN's ass. Yeah. And he's like, and I wanted to
be like surprising like a TV show, you know, the

(15:44):
plot should like it should kind of come out of nowhere.
I should be blindsided by how great I am. Sir,
you're I think you're diaper's leak or or you're just
regularly urinating on stuff. I'm not sure what. Um A
couple of things. I know I was the food thing
in this article too, know, so that is just another
detail from inside the Trump administration. I think this was

(16:06):
actually from during the campaign. It was because it's from
Korey Lewandowski's campaign memoir, which is about to come out.
The Washington Post pulled out some details that are uh
just unbelievable. But obviously it has to be from his
campaign because Koury Lewandowski was, you know, fired after not
that not that much time. But yeah, there there's some

(16:29):
great details about So his diet is two big max
to filet fish and a chocolate milkshake always. And he
doesn't know how to eat pizza. No, he scrapes the
fucking toppings off and doesn't eat the dough. He just
eats like molten cheese, sauce and toppings. That's how this

(16:50):
man eats pizza. Because like in another article, like I
think it was an US Weekly or something, he's like,
I never eat the dough, right, I never eat the dough.
I don't eat the best parts. I don't need I
don't need to. I never eat the dough. It's like,
whoa dude, that's bragging. That's the scariest ship is if
I saw someone eat a pizza like that, like you
would say something if imagine if you were just in

(17:11):
a room with like eating pizza, getting someone and you
see someone just freakishly scraped the toppings off and then
just forking knife job the cheese and topping, and you're like, whoa, whoa,
that's it, that's cool. How what do you guys going there? Like,
we gotta get the out of here this dude, it's crazy.
We think of that as an independent dish because sauce,
swirl of melted sort of cheese with sliced meat and

(17:35):
kind of cooked vegetables and yeah, but that's how a
kid eats it, you know what I mean? Like it's
like I only want the good part. I'll eat the
cheese and the toppings. Actually, there is a mention of
his eating habits in the New York Times piece. They
mentioned how he always relished gossiping over plates of well
done steak salad slathered with roquefort dressing and bacon crumble,

(18:00):
tureens of gravy and massive slices of dessert with extra
ice cream? Was this article written by an alien? Because
they just said massive slices of dessert? Like they just also,
where's all that? What's all the gravy for? You know?
The steak man. I guess. I guess, like that's how
he eats steak. Is like he first of all burns

(18:20):
it to a crisp so it's inedible, but then he
softens it up with gravy. Oh my god, bless you
take a regular steak and put a little butter on it.
It's almost like what you're doing. It's almost like every
one of his meals is like a challenge, like nothing
can kill me. Oh my god. It's like that YouTube
channel Epic meal Time. It's like, how can I make
the most disgusting thing ever? Right? I just also love

(18:43):
the phrase gossiping, like who are you talking about over
that meal? Right? Someone who was horrified watching did you
do it? Did the other day? Oh my god, I
can't believe we can be like yes, yes, Mr President,
that's great, Yes, thank you. I'm almost more impressed by
him than anything, like the fact that he can put

(19:04):
away twelve diet cokes in a day, like diet coke.
If I drink one, which I do, like carring every recording,
I feel like I've poisoned myself. But it's like a
good caffeine delivery. But imagine you're a person who hates
himself so much that he's trying to poison himself. But
like he's just it gives him power already. He's powered
up diet coke position. From the last time I was here,

(19:29):
you were right. I was wrong. It's you're not wrong.
I mean, you're right if you love it. But twelve
of them is definitely a lot. Yes, that is what
is that a hundred and forty four ounces? It's it's
too many. Can you imagine it's doing that shots? Oh
my god, like just tiny. Yeah, you can have the

(19:50):
power out you can think about. That's two and a
half power hours of diet coca day. God, my body,
my body, right right, more poison. He has like a
button more he does. He does have a team president. No,
it's an ass part of my um. She does have

(20:15):
a button allegedly that he presses his diet coke button.
It's that's right next to the lock the doors button. Yeah,
all right, we're gonna take a quick break. We'll be
right back and we're back. So we want to get
right into sex. Crim watch a k men guzz and

(20:46):
that's just the rest. Yeah, keep talking, boys, keep talking.
Mario Batali, how surprised are we by this not very
um Super producer Anna Josie was saying that she saw
his appearance on the untitled Action Bronson project and that
he was just all sorts of sort of out of

(21:07):
his mind, just I don't know, all over the place. Uh.
And so she wasn't surprised by it. But Miles, you
were saying you weren't surprised by it for another reason. Well, no,
I mean, I just I have I have friends at
work in restaurants, and I know how they like to
blow steam off, like especially after work. Uh. And I've
also read Kitchen Confidential, which was my first glimpse into

(21:29):
like kitchens, and these dudes fucking are wild, Like they're
doing drugs, they drink all the time. They're like not
that they're evil people, but these aren't people who are
like they're not trying to conduct business in an over
like an overly professional way. Like they're just dudes who
are in the back of a hot room all day
and like there's no rules, so consuming and making things
and yeah, absolutely, And also when you look at it too,

(21:52):
like they're like after like looking into this little bit more.
The hospitality industry has like the highest reported incidences of
sexual harassment, Like there's no one other industry that comes close. Right,
So this is interesting because I think we've talked about,
you know, is this sort of movement going to be
just a Hollywood thing? And I mean, I guess you
could say it still is because Batali is sort of

(22:13):
a Hollywood chef. But um, that's a crazy statistic that
there are industries and the restaurant industry being the top one.
There's of employees. There's an restaurant workers advocacy group that's
that has a like based on some of their research,
they found that eight percent of workers in the restaurant
industry report being sexually harassed. Eightent. That is absurd. Yeah, yeah,

(22:38):
it's like totally normal. It's like it's almost a normalized
part of our culture that we have until now, just
totally right being okay, I mean, if you want our
ancient media, like say it in the nineties or even before,
like the idea like the figure of a waitress in
pop culture, a waitress in particular is just always like
a butt to be slapped or a face to put

(23:01):
buttons on a vest and then you get to look
at her tips because there's buttons on her vet. Like
even in media, which seems to be like as a discussion,
is this this is only a Hollywood thing, Like Hollywood
portrays that industry as a demo sexual girl and the
reality is painfully, terrifyingly true and as scary as a
Weinstein is, and he's a fucking monster scary guy. Like

(23:24):
there are Weinstein's that like every Applebee's, Chilies, T g
I Friday's, and like drive in diner anywhere like it,
or at least eight of them. Right, Yeah, it's a
horrifying it's a in such an intense industry. There's a study.
I don't remember who did it or where it was,
but I believe that I remember it that the two

(23:45):
most stressful professions by just measurable stress level are like
surgeon and server. Those are the two that the the
how hard you work in the restaurant industry goes so
underappreciated that almost how hard you suck goes under appreciate.
Like nobody sees it. Nobody sees how hard you're working.
Nobody sees, uh, how dark and kind of gross it

(24:06):
can get. It's just you know, I guess tip next
time you go out, because somebody got her butt padded
or worse to bring you that ranch stressing. Well, yeah,
it seems like they're even some of the other articles
about sort of the harassment in the industry too. It's
like it's also kind of a regular story for servers
to be trapped in the walk in constantly. So yeah,

(24:28):
I mean, we'll see what how like this, Like you said,
if in the beginning we thought it was like limited
to Hollywood, and I guess, but Holly is some extension
of that. But we'll see. Like that, I hope that
this creates an actual sea change or cultural shift in
that industry, not only not just Hollywood, but Hollywood is
reflecting what's happening in the rest of the world. So
the same way, I mean, as a person in comedy,

(24:50):
this is a crazy thing to keep looking at. But
the same way, there was a machine around Louisi k
to make it okay for him to jerk off in
front of women and then lie about it. That is
a reflection of the machine. The key your garbage shift
leader there at your garbage restaurant job, even though he's
done creepy ship to every girl on staff, the same
machine is working. Don't complain. It's easier if you don't complain,

(25:11):
I don't know where a different shirt. He hate wear green.
He hates green like that. Hollywood didn't invent that. It
didn't come from here. That was the world. And then
Hollywood use that model. And there's too much light shining
here and the show biz and it shined on some
darkness and that darkness is revealing that it wasn't. It's everywhere.

(25:32):
Everywhere is darkness. And I guess the question is will
people in other other industries have a mechanism for reporting
these people, because the reason that this sort of sea
change is happening in Hollywood is because they're able to,
you know, get media attention because these are famous people
behaving like monsters. If it's your shift manager at Applebee's,

(25:52):
then uh, you know who is going to give enough
of the shunion report? Oh wait wait wait no, no, yeah,
more gravy? Those were those are bad for democracy? Uh?
And then uh, there was a press conference this morning
where three of Donald Trump's accusers. Have you heard about this?

(26:14):
Donald Trump, the president has been accused of inappropriate sexual behavior. Uh,
sexual behavior he could engage, it would be considerate, So
Rachel Crooks, Uh, Samantha Holvey and Jessica Leeds are three
of Trump's accusers. Rachel Crooks, who was forcibly kissed by

(26:34):
Trump at Trump Tower when she worked as a receptionist.
Samantha Holvey was a former Miss USA contestant who says, uh,
the President walked into the dressing room to inspect the women,
not just lie. So you're there to expect the A
C unit to say anything else. A C unit can
mean whatever you want it to mean. Just you could
even say likes in here where I left him in

(26:58):
here and anything. And then Jessica Leeds, who said Trump
groped and kissed her on an airplane. Uh, oh, you
can't get out of an airplane. And then right, uh yeah,
it's reminiscent of the scene in Star Wars where Han
Solo like has Princess let trapped against the like where

(27:18):
are you gonna go? Huh um. Uh. So we actually
have a clip from so we want to every time
we bring up Menghazi, just uh, you know, play a
clip of what exactly Trump is being accused of. And
we have audio of the Apprentice star Summer Servos who

(27:40):
so she met with Trump once in Trump Tower and
he kissed her and she was weirded out by that,
but was like, you know, celebrities are strange. He, you know,
was doing it almost as a greeting, and then he
invited her to a meal in his hotel room, which
we now, I don't know post meng Ghazi that that

(28:02):
is a red flag. But she accepted the invitation. She
thought they were just going to meet in his room
and then go out to dinner, but obviously he had
other ideas. I was standing in the entryway. To my
left was a bedroom and I saw Mr Trump's close
on the bed. I did not see him, but he
greeted me with hello in a singsong voice. It sounded

(28:26):
like hello. I thought the mistake had been made, and
Mr Trump thought he was speaking to someone who was
more familiar with I walked further into the living room,
away from the bedroom, and sat down. I waited for
about fifteen minutes until Mr Trump emerged. He had his
suit on. I stood up and he came to me

(28:52):
and started kissing me, open mouthed. As he was pulling
me towards him. I walked away and I sat down
in a chair. He was on a low seat across
from me, and I made an attempt at conversation. He
then asked me to sit next to him. I complied.
He then grabbed my shoulder and began kiss me again
very aggressively, and pieces placed his hand on my breast.

(29:16):
I pulled back and walked to another part of the room.
He then walked up, grabbed my hand, and walked me
into the bedroom. He then proceeded to grope her breast
and quote began thrusting his genitals on her. So that's disturbing, yep, okay,
so I left my body. Uh well, you know, thank

(29:41):
you for thank you for playing that. Thank yeah, thank you,
thank you for using your words, raise your voice. That
happened to you, happen to you, that happened to you,
And we want to remind people that that's for the
reason why we keep playing. Like on Friday, Rachel Crooks,
we had her account of her interaction with with Trump
where he tried to basically kiss her. You know, because

(30:04):
we are holding many other people accountable, and it's still
important that a man because like we say, it's so
easy to fucking forget or or just not want to
remember this other ship that you know, we also have
to remind ourselves that the fucking the person holding the
highest office is also yeah, a fucking sex crime. Uh.
And he's assaulting women. And again because of like the

(30:27):
very similar power structures that protect the Weinsteins and the
Louise of the world, they protect Trump too, because people
have a lot to lose by this man not being
in office, and that's just a shame. And I think,
you know, we have to we have to keep we
have to keep on this. I don't know who's left
that has a lot to lose. Like that's a list
of like twenty people, and they're all like the Order
of the Twelve or some illuminati conspiracy ship. I don't

(30:50):
know who's left that's benefiting. I mean, look at that
tax plant um. And yeah, so I think there's been
some some claims that she is doing this because Glory
already paid her five hundred thousand dollars. But they have
produced witnesses who came forward and we're like, yeah, I know,
she told us about this, like right after it happened.

(31:10):
Uh and before he ran for president. Because his claim
is that this is like all part of a liberal
uh you know, establishment conspiracy. It's the same Roy Moore
is using the same playbook. Yeah, you know, it's it's
it's all. It's all liberal transgendered, gay social justice warriors
who were trying to you know, ruin me, smear good
man and a proud Democrat all my life. And this

(31:32):
party is far too inept to execute such a broad,
sweeping conspiracy to you know, design and manufacture these stories
of women dating back decades that all accused this guy
the same behavior. But yeah, somehow that's cooked up by
a party that can't agree on a slogan that works
like there's this there's no world, which that's very equable

(31:56):
of weaving this whip. Yeah, who have proven time and
time again that very capable of sucking even the simplest
things up. Yes, let alone. Yeah, Jones is barely winning. Yeah,
I don't know if he is wing who knows. Yeah, Yeah,
that's one interesting thing. Fox News keeps being like Doug
Jones up by double digits. But I don't know, I
feel like it's them trying to their Republicans to get

(32:19):
out Yeah, guess, lating Republicans to get out the book.
But so on this theme of you know, non famous
sexual harassment, we wanted to talk about Silicon Valley because
Miles you have some friends who work uh in like
in Silicon Valley and and and talking to them. It's

(32:41):
interesting that because you know, Silicon Vallees and notoriously just
a very hostile place for women to work, that there
was some feeling that he wouldn't be surprised if there
was like this backlash coming because and and it's and
it's possible in many industries. And I guess that you know,
a lot of these men who are in positions of
power aren't really looking at these accusations as wait, this

(33:03):
behavior is appalling unacceptable. That is why it needs to
stop rather than uh, some people got loud enough and
they got their way, so you know, like fuck it,
Like I guess they win today. But we're not doing
anything wrong. And that's like kind of a very scary prospect,
right because like this idea of like moral licensing, we
can see the pendulum swing all the way back very quickly.
Like so you know, the idea of moral licensing is

(33:25):
that sort of uh, you know, if you say you
give yourself to do something bad because you've been good
all day or you've done good enough, so like whether
it's you know, like oh well I can eat this
because I ate, you know, nothing against my diet for
the rest of the dam I can just eat this
entire cake. Or uh, you know, we voted for Obama,
so we're not racist. That means we can vote for
Trump now because I did the good thing already, and

(33:46):
so it's it's what's what's worrying is that that phenomenon
could be at work even in this sort of moment
we're at in history, if like our people actually acknowledging
what they're doing is actually an actible or some people
also kind of trying to protect their egos, their way
of thinking, their worldview by just saying, you know, paying
lip service to these things, but not actually internalizing or

(34:09):
understanding that like, wait, no, this is not the way
the world needs to be going forward, right yeah, And
I mean with Silicon Valley, I mean it's white men
are still in almost all of the positions of power.
So I feel like a lot of these cases people
are learning their lessons as much as they are forced

(34:29):
to learn their lessons. And you know, like you saw
it even with the Google uh sort of screed that
guy who wrote like a long Google note about how
you know, women don't belong in the workplace essentially and
that uh forcing women to like get jobs at Google

(34:50):
was like hurting Google. Um that that was something that
had been up for weeks apparently before, and that his
managers were aware of, and then it just broke publicly
and that's when he suddenly got fired. But uh, you know,
there's a crazy article about the sort of sexual discrimination

(35:10):
at Tesla and these companies that are beloved in America, uh,
where they will female employees will hold a company wide
meeting where they're like women are being discriminated against, and
it'll seem like everyone's doing the right thing. And then
they'll have a meeting with one of the like higher
higher ups and they'll be like, Okay, here's your severance

(35:31):
package for bringing this up. Like they because they can
get away with it, you know, right. And again these
companies too, they're dealing with massive amounts of money that
paying settlements is probably nothing to them, Like yeah, it's
like well if like it could be seen as a
cost of doing business. And it's that it's so funny
to listen to how men feel about this, because there's

(35:53):
men like it seems like you guys both are where
it's like this behavior is disgusting it's so amazing to
watch this change where people are being held accountable for it.
I assume that, like I have, you look back at
your past actions and think about, you know, situations that
you might have done something differently, and you grow, you change,
and then there's this other reaction that I see for

(36:14):
men and women, but men, uh where it's like, I
guess they're coming for me now, Like, who knows what's
page in my history? Somebody's gonna wildly misinterpreted that I
certainly shouldn't self examine. Oh, it's the witch hunt. We
better tighten up the rules because if we don't, they'll
get away with telling on us. Like, you know, we
better raise the you know money, We better get ready

(36:34):
to pay more settlements because they're gonna be coming in now.
How inconvenient. Uh. It's perspective that seems to pretty much
prevail in Stillicon Valley for a bunch of reasons, and
one of them is all that money. You know, how
could they be wrong? And the thing that terrifies me,
uh sincerely, is that a place like Google where that
very publicly had that kind of manifesto get leaked that

(36:57):
we've talked about, that's the same company that's like making
devices that recognize our faces, decide our desires, and cater
to us, that listen to us in our homes. I
don't necessarily want the people making those products that look
into my everyday life, that know everything about me and
my words orch history and whether or not I'm being
bitten by fleas or have dry skin. I don't need

(37:18):
the people making that to be dickles who think that
I can't do math because I have a vagina. I
don't need that. I would really prefer to have a
broader perspective involved in creating the technology that peers into
my innermostlife. There's this effect that I forget. I think
I read about it for the first time, like in
high school and The People's History of America the Zen
book where he talks about how the US Department of

(37:43):
Defense used to be called the War Department, and then
they changed their name to the Department of Defense the
second they started fighting offensive wars because just to like
do the opposite, essentially, to you know, cover things up.
I'm reminded of that story every time I think of
Google's motto being don't be evil, It's like be Google,

(38:05):
e right, just be don't be evil? Is like such
a transparent I don't know, is it that easy to
be evil? Right? Cool? I get to decide what evil? Right?
All right, we're gonna take a quick break and we'll
be right back. And we're back. So we wanna at

(38:34):
least mentioned the failed terror attack in Times Square in
one of the subway stations I would be most horrified
to be attacked. And the guy was walking onto the
A C when he blew himself up with a poorly built,
h improvised explosive device. This is actually the second time

(38:58):
so Time Square is always used as the you know threat,
Like what if a terrorist brings a suitcase dirty bomb
into Times Square? Then like that's that's the scary thing.
But so far we've had now two terror attacks attempted
in Times Square that have just been completely fucked up
like that. There's this one where the guy blew himself

(39:19):
up with a bomb that was so poorly built that
it didn't even kill him. Uh, and I guess it
injured for other people, so it's not funny to talk
about how poorly built it is. But and then there
was another guy who was actually funded. I didn't realize this.
I knew that there was like a failed attack back
in two thousand and ten. Apparently he was financed by

(39:40):
the Pakistani Taliban and was the guy who like left
a car on a really crowded touristy street in Times
Square and people like a street vendor was like, hey, police,
that car over there has smoke pouring out of it
and there are firecrackers going off inside of it. And
I guess they had used the wrong type of fertilizer.

(40:02):
They're trying to McVeigh it. So he just made a
big firecracker, right, he just made a firecracker in his car.
I think that firecrackers were actually the detonation device. And uh,
it's really hard for an individual to change the world,
Like it takes a lot of steps and it's pretty difficult,
and our own homegrown terrorists aren't any better at it
at Timothy McVeigh blew up the outside of the Oklahoma

(40:24):
City Building because he didn't know his truck wouldn't fit
inside of its lower parking lot. Right, So it's like
just that, I mean the rage, the I didn't rage.
Somebody has to feel to drive a vehicle full of
ready to explode ship into a public space. It clouds
your mind and it really prevents you from doing some
of your very important pre planning, right, Um, got to

(40:46):
do that pre pro you really do? Yeah, So, I
I don't know. I I can't say whether we are
just in like one very small thread of reality where
the two people who tried to attack Time Square fucked up,
or if there's something about you know, our security apparatus
that makes it hard for these people to you know,

(41:07):
build good bombs to attack you know, clearly must because
I feel like these people seem to be you know,
like they're probably they're they're definitely not sophisticated people with
experience handling explosives, Like they're just probably reading something off
the internet and then like making a mess of it.
And I also feel like if you're actually buying like

(41:27):
the kinds of things that you need to really make
devastating bombs, like there there probably are apparatus out there
to like kind of take it. You had to scan like,
oh wait, how much you know of this given thing
are you buying? I mean, look, it's it's hard to
say like you're glad that a terroristack didn't go well,
but yeah, like it's yeah, I mean they talk about
you know, after an athlete has like five amazing games,

(41:48):
they're like, well, you can expect him to return to
the average about like where you would expect things to go.
I feel like you could say the same about terror attacks,
like nine eleven went as well as like like everything
went perfect. That was like Reggie Miller in the fourth quarter, right,
that was Reggie Miller, just like making thirty three's in
a row, Like it was just al Qaeda was unconscious

(42:09):
that day. Man, they were just like nail and everything.
They didn't leave any loose change. Uhh. And now and
now we're seeing a return to the average. I think
that is very true. But it's also what makes terror
so completely effective for it because even when it doesn't
go according to horrible, destructive evil plans, it's still fucking

(42:33):
terrifying and it puts it in your mind and it
calls on individuals to rise above fear, which is a
tough thing to ask human beings to do, and we
have to do it every day and it is difficult
and scary. Yeah. And I know earlier you're talking about
like like if there's like an obsession with New York,
especially like as a target, and I don't know if

(42:53):
that's media created or whatever. That is like why terrorists
feel like New York is always a good place to
do that. But I even find myself, like being a
West Coast person, like when I go to New York,
there are times like because I used to work for
a company that was like in the Tower or at
the New World Trade Center, and like when I go there,
like you can't help. But even when you visit New York,
think of like like just the terror attacks. And I

(43:14):
think that's like a very like you're saying, Caitlin, like
a weird thing that even if an attack doesn't go
right in my even in my mid subconscious, you're like wow,
like things are possible here or they feel more real
or whatever. And that is like that where the terror
aspect comes in. Yeah, and it is the most American.
It like strikes at everything about America's ideals, like the

(43:35):
Great melting Pot, and this is where all of I mean,
if things made sense, you know, it would be the
capital of America. It's and also it's a lot of
people on top of each other, which also makes it
makes sense as a terror target. Uh, let's get into
the Golden Globe nominations, which natural transition exactly. I I'm

(44:00):
scared of um. So, you know, get Out got nominated
for Best Comedy for some reason, but uh, calling that
economic comedy is a violent act. That's also because that's
how the studios submitmitted it, right, right, So it's not
that the the the old elderly people of the Hollywood

(44:22):
Forign Press Association were like, that was a great comedy. Yeah. Um,
I just laughed and laughed at that. Poor boys. Fear
The Shape of Water was the most nominated film, followed
by I think Three Billboards Outside Having Missouri, which I
saw over the weekend. Very good. I thought it was
very good. Although I think it's criticism. People who have

(44:43):
criticized it, we're right, and I loved every minute of it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I also saw A Girl's Trip over the weekend and
I thought that was amazing. I thought like I would
have nominated that for Best Picture. That was so good.
And Tiffany Haddish it was mind breaking. Lee good her name,

(45:03):
and then watch everything she's ever done and every time
she's been on television. I don't know if there is
a more charming human being. Neither the movie or Tiffany
Haddish were nominated, which uh is insane. But again, look,
so you know, I have an intimate relationship with the
Hollywood for Impress in the front of that. My mother
is in the h f p A, and a lot

(45:25):
of the people in that vote are older, so they're
not quite as in tune with those kinds of things.
So I'm not totally surprised. But yeah, like it's tough
because you're not really getting a fair shake alert, like
a good look at everything that came out and what
could be good. There are a few things that seemed
surprising too, because even like with Ladybird got like a

(45:45):
ton of nominations, but Greta Gerwig didn't get like a
director's not or anything like that. But the Golden Globes
aren't perfect, much like most Awards shows, because inevitably, to
like these nominations will probably affect how the Academy members
vote to um, So, can I ask how Aitonia did?
I don't know. I comma don't know because I saw

(46:07):
that over the weekend and if that is playing anywhere
near you, check it out. Don't wait, go go go.
I was disappointed Logan didn't get a nomination. I thought
that was a really great maybe as good as a
superhero comic book movies have been, uh, with the possible
exception of Dark Knight and The Crazy One. For me,

(46:28):
I always pay attention to Best Screenplay because I feel
like in the Oscars at least, Best Original Screenplay is
actually the place where they I don't know if like
the old people just sit that one out or what,
but it's the one where they actually give the award to,
like the best movie or like the thing that I
actually was most impressed by. Um, they didn't nominate Get

(46:51):
Out for Best Original Screenplay and the Golden Globes, which
is insane to me because that seems to be like
one of the groundbreaking screenplays of the past decade. Yeah,
it seems like that should have been should have been
up there. Um. So hopefully that just gives the Academy

(47:11):
an example of something not to do when when they're
nominating has the writers? Has the Writer's Guild had their
nominations out for film yet I know that I don't
came out. Well, I think hopefully you think that the
Writer's Guild would at least acknowledge that much, because I
don't know. I think it's I think it's over some
of these people's heads. And HFP, a super producer, Anna
just informed me that Titania is up for Best Comedy

(47:32):
slash Musical, you know, head to head with get out Right,
two films that you could easily compare. Uh. Also, calling
Aitania comedy is a touch dismissive. I don't know what
it is. I don't know if it's a biopic. I
don't know if it's a docu slash mockumentary, because I
think they submitted Wolf of Wall Street as a comedy
too that year. This year also, it's just weird because
it's that they even create an opportunity for someone to

(47:54):
submit a film. But The Martian was a comedy. Yeah,
and you do that because like best Pictures too congested,
and you'd be like, oh, well, here's a good way
to like it. We can say it has this bend.
I think it's kind of gaming the system. I feel like, yeah,
The Martian had a lot of laughs. I could like,
I didn't think that one was quite as crazy as
get Out. Get Out. Get Out is not funny, well,

(48:16):
I think, But then the people argue that it's like
satirical at its core. That's that's why it's a horror film,
because it isn't. But again, this is what how the
studio was trying to to rationalize why they submitted it
as a comedy. Uh. I saw Get Out on a plane,
and it's one of those movies that sticks to your ribs.
Wish I'd seen it in the theaters. It deserves it,

(48:36):
But I wound up catching it on a plane and
I had to like get out of my seat and
just walk around the aisle of the plane for a minute.
And I just wanted somebody else to be watching it
so we could be like, can we talk about this
right now? Nobody wanted to talk about it right now?
But that movie. I think it's brilliant. It deserves every
accolade it gets. Uh, it is not a comedy. I

(48:58):
have never risen from my seat out of physical discomfort
at anything except for me the parents. And also they
capture like some of the nuances of like the very
sort of subtle forms of racism people of felt experience,
like whether it's like man, you're so cool, like that
version to where you're like, well, the first time I
saw I was like fuck, bro, like that's some real ship.
I think it's not there. There's such good moments in

(49:20):
that film that like really are they're just so honest?
But yeah, it when told against like in the backdrop
of the story, it's it's even crazier, all right, And
we just want to go out reminding everybody, Uh, today
or tomorrow, depending on when you're listening to this is
the Alabama Senate race is uh in America. So I

(49:46):
don't know, please go vote for Doug Jones. If you
are in Alabama, if you know anyone there, please tell
them to not vote for Roy Moore. It's been a
strange final couple of days for a couple of reasons. Uh. One,
there is just absolutely no consensus on who's winning. And
like I said earlier, Fox News claims that Roy Moore

(50:06):
is down by double digits, but then you know most saying, uh,
polls are saying that very close, it's very close, and
that Roy Moore is at least up by a couple
percentage points. Uh. What's really weird though, and Miles you
can speak to this a little bit, is that so
the last four days of of an election are you

(50:27):
were saying, it's known as like get out the vote
at GOTV weekend? Right, Yeah, and that's where you really
have to go knocking doors, call it going through your
voter roles, making sure you're calling people who you have
ide to supporters to remind them to get out the
vote on Tuesday, tell your friends and family, blah blah blah.
Like it's really it's the it's the most important final
push to really make sure that you activate all your
supporters before an election. And like, yeah, when I was

(50:49):
working politics, I did a lot of campaigns to where
you don't sleep. You you start, you like wake up
like at five on Friday and you maybe sleep like
eight hours the entire or weekend until Tuesday because you're
you're just doing so many things to get this done.
And yeah, Roy Moore has been invisible since TuS Tuesday
fucking vanished. Like in most campaigns, if your candidate is

(51:12):
not in front of a crowd that is cheering, you
are doing a bad job at this point in the election.
And he has They've just hidden him. Um, which is
could be good. I mean, it could be a good move.
It might just be brilliant. It might be like very
shrewd because you know they this is tribal. You're voting
for team read you are not voting for Roy Moore.

(51:33):
Forget that you're voting for a pedophile. Um, So I
don't know, it's interesting. Uh, you know, whatever happens, we'll
probably be talking about it on Well, we'll see because
it's it's gonna say a lot because you know, the
young Republicans of Alabama are like absolutely not. There are
many people who are in the Republican establishment who are
like really having really serious doubts about the party because

(51:55):
of this, because like, wait, where the funk are we
like have we become that partisan that we're just going
to overlook these like very credible accusations against this person.
Really no one better to run for Senate and all
of Alaban this was the cream of your crop. Yes, guy,
I mean you could have had fucking Luther Strange, but
because he's not a Bannonite. That's the other thing too,
is like you have Bannon behind the scenes like leaning

(52:16):
on Sean Hannity to retract him, like his ultimatum to
get him to like explain himself, or and also clearly
leaning on Trump because suddenly the r n C and
the White House are like full Roy Moore. It's it's
it's wild. So you never know what the fun is
gonna happen. Hopefully the right fucking thing happens. Yeah, it's
gonna be really interesting also just because of Trump is

(52:38):
um and Bannonite type like uh, you know, there was
the Virginia election where the guys supported by Bannon and
uh somewhat like linked to Trump lost, but this is
a full throated like Trump is um. You know, Trump
didn't endorse him at first during the election, but he

(52:58):
was sort of the trump Ist candidate, uh, trump Ist,
the Trumpiest of the Trump Frank Rich just wrote an
article in New York Magazine and called After Trump that
is really interesting because it talks about how he thinks
Trump is Um will outlast Trump and is more powerful
than Trump. And you know, he pointed to the primary

(53:19):
where the you know, very clear candidate who represents Trump's
values and the values that got Trump elected one over
the candidate that Trump officially endorsed just based on his gut,
who was more of an establishment person. So it'll it'll
be very interesting if this will also be a test
of how powerful the sort of populist right wing Trump

(53:42):
is m is uh in terms of you know, whether
Roy Moore is able to disappear enough to get elected,
and then also then brings up what happens if he
gets elected? And then what will the GOP do if
he is actually part of the body of the Senate. Yeah,
we we we shall see. Uh, Caitlin, this was so

(54:02):
much fun, gentlemen. It is always a delight to go
out on that note. Uh. That's my My stomach is
just a stone pit, like God, just about this, vote
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(54:24):
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(54:45):
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