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March 13, 2023 20 mins

In this edition of Saturday Zeit Fever, Jack and writer JM McNab discuss notable moments from the 2023 Oscars, the Silicon Valley Bank collapse, and the Buffalo Wild Wings lawsuit!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of Saturday
Zight Fever. I am Jack and that short show title
is courtesy of Johnny Davis short show title Spice Sst. Spice,
as he is affectionately known, and I'm thrilled to be
joined by our writer, mister J. M mcnow. Hello. Thanks

(00:24):
for having me, Oh, thank you for being here, Jam.
What a time the oscars happened last night. We're all still,
you know, just getting over the mayhem. You know, the snubs,
the flubs. We'll talk tomorrow about the in memorium section,
leaving leaving out some big names. The big viral moment

(00:49):
didn't even happen during the ceremony, happing on the red carpet.
I did catch it live. It did cause me to
turn to my wife and exchange a look of concern.
What just happened? Why is this person behaving? Thus Lee
and I am talking, of course about Hugh Grant, who

(01:11):
was I think the technical term is an asshole on
the red carpet. So Ashley Graham was working the red
carpet interviewed Hugh Grant and it was just one of
those awkward you kind of get the sense that she

(01:33):
was told two minutes before that that's who she was interviewing.
These are chaotic events where you're just trying to grab
anyone famous who's walking by. She chose Hugh Grant and
to quote the old guy at the end of Indiana
Jones at the last Crusade, she chose unwisely. It did

(01:56):
not go well. So he described the event as a
vanity Fair. She thought he was referring to the Vanity
Fair after party, which is totally a totally acceptable misunderstanding
since that is there at the Oscars and that is
the main after party and it's the thing that people
are talking about. Oh yeah, for sure. But he took

(02:19):
that as an opportunity. She was like, oh yeah, the
Vanity Fair afterparty, Like great time, are you looking forward
to that type thing? And he took that as an
opportunity to be like, uh, I'm dealing with a moron,
and like she asked what he was wearing and he
said my suit, which is like that is a question.

(02:41):
You know you are going to be asked on the
red carpet. So yeah, after that point, all bets are off.
You know. It's funny to give like funny answers, like
I remember I think it was like bobcat Goldthwaite went
with Robin Williams to an award show once and someone
asking him who he was wearing, and he said sears like, yeah,

(03:03):
that's funny. Fun my suit is a fine answer, but
he was giving nothing, like I don't know my tailor's name.
It was. It wasn't quite Billy Bob Thornton on that
Morning Zoo Talk interview where he's mad at the person
interviewing the whole time for acknowledging that he's an actor,
but it was bordering on the dark matter level energy

(03:29):
that Billy Bob Thornton gave off. It was just like
I have completely left my body and now you will
be forced to interview the husk of Hugh Grant. So
I would say, like, I agree with you. I think
he was being a dick with the whole my suit thing.

(03:49):
But then I think like she tried and you know,
to be fair, Like like I said, she was given nothing,
so she had to quickly pivot to a new quest
totally and she chose a bad player. Yeah yeah, which
is also again something I totally identify with. I had
what my first job out of school was being a

(04:09):
Butler at the Soho House in New York City when
it had just opened up and they didn't know what
they were doing. First I was poolboy. Then I worked
my way up to Butler, which is basically a British
way of saying Matri d um or not Matri d uh.
What's the what's the person who works at the front

(04:29):
desk and like helps you with your bags and bellhop
occasional murderer um. And I had to make conversation with you, Grant,
and he really yeah, yeah, one time I helped him
to his room with his bags, and he has one
mode which is charmingly befuddled. And I'm glad that I

(04:51):
was not on national television having to be like, yeah,
so New York, huh, crazy weather. I had to actually
holding an umbrella over his head. That a lot was
made by his team of you know, protecting him from
the paparazzi, which I think was more of a problem
for him at that time. But he probably like tested

(05:13):
you with some old literary reference you got, so he's like, Okay,
I'm gonna be nice to see you. I'll allow it. Um.
But anyways, she then said like, oh, it must have
been fun. To work on glass Onion, which you were on. Um.
Hell she also she was like, oh I love glass Onion.

(05:34):
It was so much fun. It must have been so
much fun to make. Like right, but he'd seen it,
you know, he wasn't in it hardly. He's barely in
and so and that was what he told her. Well,
I'm barely in it, I mean about three seconds. And
she was like all right, well and you can see
the earwig in her ear being like stretch, stretch, stretch,

(05:57):
and she's like anything else, also, what else? Like, I mean, yeah,
he could have made a joke out of it. He
could have been like, well, everyone else was having fun.
I opened a door, you know, something like that. Yeah,
you don't need to openly question whether she's seen the movie.
So anyways, and then he proceeded to, like, in the

(06:19):
actual awards ceremony, compare his face to a scrotum, which
is lovably self effacing. I just think, just stick with
the self effacing even when you're not on stage. Maybe
just I get it, Like the red carpet thing is
not great. It's not my cultural like the thing that

(06:41):
I am excited about. But it just felt like I
don't know, that's another human being up there with you. Yeah,
it's like she's just doing your job. Also, like, yeah,
I didn't think he was. I mean, he was just
kind of a dick about it, like he didn't have
to be. But on the other hand, like you agreed
to be a prison there at the Oscars, you agreed
to walk the red carpet, Like there are certain hoops

(07:03):
you just kind of agree to jump through. If that's
the gig. Yeah, one of them is making shitty, dumb
small talk, yes, and interviews. So absolutely the other moments
that leapt out from the ninety fifth I believe Academy
Award Lady Gaga had this like wildly emotional performance of

(07:23):
the top Gun song and her preamble she said, I
wrote the song with my friend blood pop in my basement.
I thought she said blow pop. And I was reeling
from that point forward and didn't take much in. But
people seemed to be very taken with her performance, and

(07:45):
I don't know, not necessarily taken, but just like the seriousness,
the gravity the preamble where she said, it's deeply personal
to me. We need a lot of love to walk
through this life, and we all need a hero sometimes
there's heroes all around us and assuming places, but you
might find that you can be your own hero, even
if you feel broken inside. And then here's the song

(08:07):
from top Gun. But yeah, it's like she kept talking
about how personal the song was, Like I saw top Gun.
I just assumed this song was about Tom Cruise, like
they came to you or like we need a new
power ballot about Tom Cruise's dick from the twenty first century. Yeah,
can you write something? That's what I assumed. But according
to her, this was this was she made it into art.

(08:30):
You know, she came fully made up, like knew the
assignment for the Red Carpet looked amazing and all sorts
of Lady Gaga on the Red Carpet what you would expect,
just you know, amazing makeup and dress. And one photographer
was so blown away by her beauty that he fell

(08:53):
over and she even tried to help him up, which
was a nice little momentum. And then then it looked
like he kind of like gropture. Did you see that?
Oh no, I did not, certainly, like I don't know
if it was an accident or not, but she certainly like, yeah,
the Red Carpet is an awkward place. Oh yeah, it
turns out but yeah. And then she showed up on

(09:15):
stage looking fully scrubbed of makeup, in a T shirt
and ripped jeans, and then appeared later on in the
ceremony I believe back in makeup, and her dress was
kind of an amazing magic trick that she pulled off.
She was it was like a superhero, but instead of
a superhero costume, she changed into like one of the

(09:35):
Sonic Youth band members would wear. Right. Yeah, but knew
the assignment had a very clear vision. I mean, she
sounded great, obviously, as always. The songs were actually some
of the most exciting. Usually, you know, the songs are
like songs no one cares about and it's a chore
to get through. But we had Lady Gaga and Rihanna
and David Byrne. And it's not Rihanna. It's Rihanna, which

(09:59):
I had read. No, you said it correctly, and I
assumed that people were saying it incorrectly last night. But
the pronunciation on that was something that I think I
believe I was getting wrong all along, and now I
know that it's Rhianna. Brendan Fraser one best actor gave
a extended metaphor whale based like nautical themed acceptance speech.

(10:24):
But yeah, it just seemed overwhelmed by the moment, and
I appreciated the effort. So he opened it by saying
that only whales can swim at the depth of his
co star Hang Chow, and then ended the speech by
thanking his children and his best first mate, his partner
gene Ganne Moore Gene and then at the very end

(10:47):
he set it's time for me to sham move out
of here exactly. It was a strong commitment to the bit.
And then Jimmy Kimmel, I don't know sure, this was
my response to his overall performance. Yeah, l ron hubba hubba.

(11:09):
That worked for me. But I mean, yeah, I'm I'm
not a huge Jimmy Kimmel fan, but what sorry, But
I mean, I don't dislike him. He's just like I mean,
I think that's why they picked him. He's a guy
most people are like, oh, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, the
Benstein's money guy. Okay, sure we know who that is. Um,

(11:31):
I don't know. Yeah, Like, some things he did really
annoyed me. Some things he did I thought were funny.
He was mostly I guess his steady hand keeping things moving,
which is what they wanted. Yeah, knew the assignment. I
would say also for him, it's a corporate gig, you know,
like comedian to corporate gigs yea. And they're like, we

(11:54):
want you to understand that you are telling jokes to
a bunch of C suite Bank of America, get employees,
and uh, just do do that and don't offend. And
I feel I feel like he's the peak corporate gig comedian.
It feels like, yeah, yeah, totally that. I think that's
a good comparison. I mean, I thought the awards themselves

(12:16):
like we're pretty good but predictable, Like it seems like
everything that happened was pretty much predicted by all the
guild and right, yeah, it seems like kind of a
straight sporward. Yeah, there weren't really any surprises. But that
being said, like all the things, not all the things,
but a lot of things. I wanted to win one.

(12:37):
I feel like I have to shout out Sarah Pally
for winning for screenplay as a Canadian and Torontonian, we
love her. There you um and and like I said
on a last week's show, like everything everywhere, all at once.
It was it was the movie of the year and
definitely showed out at the Oscars, which was cool to see.

(12:58):
All right, let's take a quick break and we'll be
right back. And we're back. And apparently something happened with
a bank or something on Friday and the government's gonna

(13:22):
I don't know. I was too busy focusing on like
what everybody was gonna wear for the Oscars. But there, Yeah,
So I skimmed this article for Hugh Grant's name and
it didn't appear once. So between noon Eastern time on
Friday up until six on Sunday, people were wondering if

(13:46):
the government was going to bail out this bank, Silicon
Valley Bank. That there was a run on the bank.
It failed, it was taken over by the government, and
people were wondering if the people whose money was uninsured
being held by the bank, we're going to be made
whole by the government. The government ultimately did what they
do and bailed out the people who lost their money.

(14:11):
I'm not an economist, but this basically sounds like the
plot of It's a Wonderful Life, Right, am I wrong?
Bunch of well, I think the with corporations and corporations
and banks, basically the villains getting paid back. The Biden
administrations pushing back, saying that the bailout will not be

(14:32):
paid for by taxpayers. But ultimately, I don't know how
does that work. I don't know. I'm paying for it
with my own money. I'm serious, man, I'm serious. I'm
using that money I made appearing in Carmen San Diego
in nineteen ninety six. Did you hear in Carmen San Diego. Yeah,
he had a cameo. He probably didn't get paid, and

(14:54):
I don't think I'm sure PPS didn't pay that much,
but yeah, I just wanted to drop that reference in
because he was he was like they called them up
for help looking for like one of those villains who
steals monuments. Wasn't that what always happened? Yeah? Again, I've
steered this story about complicated economic problems into a discussion

(15:16):
of who of, which is definitely much closer to what
I'm qualified to talk about than complicated economic matters. But also,
I'm just getting over COVID and all my family members
have COVID and who aren't sleeping and I'm trying to
look after them, So I'm extra dumb, Yeah, which brings
you right to the perfect level to be on this

(15:38):
show with me. They complete idiot. All right. The billionaire
bailout debate has begun. I think, don't bail out the
people who have all the money already, um with the
money given to you by taxpayers. But what do I know?
What I can speak about is the ongoing contract diversity

(16:00):
around boneless chicken wings. Buffalo Wild Wings is being sued
for using the phrase boneless chicken wings, and it's an
ongoing controversy. I kind of didn't understand it, but you
you helped clarify, and this, this Takeout article helped clarify
that it's all about. That's what I'm qualified to really

(16:23):
put it. Put things into perspective, and now I am
outraged about this issue. The argument is that a place
that sells chicken wings, then selling a product called boneless
chicken wings would lead you to believe that they are
the chicken wings product with the bone removed, right, it
is a different type of meat in the chicken wings.

(16:47):
Then you would get in these chicken strips, and so
basically people are like just call them saucy nugs, or
you know, call them chicken wing, sauce strips, whatever the fuck,
but it is. I can see how it's misleading. I
do greatly prefer chicken wing meat to boneless chicken wing

(17:07):
aka chicken tender meat. If this goes to trial, with
the journey go all the way to the top the
Supreme Court, Yeah yes, but I feel like their defense
could be the descriptor wild These aren't just regular wings,
these are wild wings. It's like a wild card, you know,
like this could be anything. Yeah, right, no idea what

(17:30):
you're gonna get when you when you sign on to
the wild when you walk through that door, you're you're
acknowledging that might be a fried pickle in there. We're
wild card. Um. But yeah, So the plaintiff claims the
name boneless wings leads customers believe that the product is
simply the meat of a debone chicken wing rather than

(17:51):
what they actually are, which is slices of chicken breast
meat deep fried like wings. But I don't. He claims
that this is causing him caused him financial injury. So
would this just be a series of like nine eighty
five payouts from Buffalo Wild Wings to anybody who can

(18:12):
prove that they've purchased boneless wings, which I mean, how
far did he have to drive to get there? There's
the gas, that's true point, and there's usually don't they
usually throw an emotional distress. Well, it kind of seems
like because there's that guy the same. The article also
mentions that guy in twenty twenty who went viral for

(18:35):
talking about this in a city council meeting and how
he was offered like was it a year's worth of
chicken wings, right or something? He got some kind of
dumb like, oh, let's give this viral guy something in
a speech that seemed like it was specifically written to
go viral. Yeah, it was like it and it was

(18:57):
I remember this this popping up on the end or
because it was like right smack in the middle of COVID,
like it was schools just kind of reopened. In twenty twenty,
it was still like nothing. Everything had kind of ground
to a halt, and this guy was like, I'm going
to use this opportunity to go to this like mostly
empty city council meeting and do this like pre written

(19:20):
bit chicken wings. Right. But it kind of seems like
now this guy probably saw that and was like, well
if I do something similar, maybe I'll get some some
free chicken wings out of the Yeah. The plaintive also
cites the fact that Papa John's calls it its version
Chicken Poppers instead of boneless Chicken Wings. Dominoes calls its
version Specialty Chicken. So it seems like there is some

(19:45):
thought in the corporate because boneless wings is definitely a
better title. But it feels like people are like, they're
they're gonna see our pants off if we call them
boneless wings. It's misleading. So I mean, I'm just might
be some this guy. I'm jealous of how much time
this guy has that he's like, I know, doing all
this like this. Otherwise this would just be like a

(20:07):
thought like huh, these these are more like nuggets. And
then you move on to anything else. Then you move
on to what's Hugh Grant been up to? What is
Hugh Grant take? What is his position in all of this? Well, Jam,
such a pleasure of having you as always. Where can
people find you and follow you? You can find me
on Twitter at Jam mcnapogan. All right, that is going

(20:31):
to do it for us this afternoon. We are back
tomorrow morning with the whole last episode of the show.
Until then, be kind to each other, be kind to yourself,
get the vaccine, don't do nothing about white supremacy, and
we will talk to y'all tomorrow. Fight

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