Schrodinger's Couch Guy, Amazon's Kryptonite? 10.13.21

In episode 1007, Jack and Miles are joined by host of Alison Rosen Is Your New Best Friend Alison Rosen to discuss how Amazon "really cares" about their workers, Seattle Cops are in such a "terrible position", IS COUCH GUY CHEATING? OR ARE WE PATHETIC AND BORED?  and more!

FOOTNOTES:

1. Amazon: Oh Y’all care about workers kinda? NVM we out…
2. Seattle Cops are in such a terrible position OMG OH NO HALP THEM PLEEEZ!
3. IS COUCH GUY CHEATING? OR ARE WE PATHETIC AND BORED? 
4. LISTEN: Mr Jukes - Vibrate

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season two, Oh Sex,
Episode two up ur Days like guys, the production of
My Heart Radio. This is a podcast where you take
a deep dive into America's share consciousness. And it's Wednesday,
October one. Of course it is take your Parents to
Lunch Day National, Take your parents to Launch Day International,
no broad Day, so you know I'm observing one of

(00:23):
those two. My name is Jack O'Brien, a K. And
I think it's gonna be a long long time till lie.
Look my three year old and the I don't know
the difference between fruit and veg Oh no, no, no,
I'm a foolish man, foolish man, been lied to my

(00:45):
whole life. Man, fuck these seeds. That is courtesy of
Pod Moran talking about my inability to differentiate between fruit
and vegetable or as I wouldn't even all it, my
realization that vegetables are all conspiracy and it's all fruits. Uh.
And I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my

(01:05):
co host, Mr Miles Grag all the fall things, pumpkin, spice, drinks, apples,
let's pick. I have the ships. Then comes thus no,
this ship is so called skiing, skating, falling, pass breaking.

(01:31):
My balls are froze. This is so old. I am
passed off, stuck in my home and that's a risky
Yamagucci Mane who decided to take us down a little
trip link two. All the small things but the part yeah,
all the fault. Oh, I get it. Okay, see what
I see? What do you do that? That was awesome though.

(01:55):
I saw that on Twitter and uh and liked it
by clicking the heart underneath it. Well, Miles, we are
thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a
very funny and talented podcast or author and TV personality.
She's the author of the book Tropical Attire, Encouraged and
other Phrases that Scare Me and host the podcast Alison

(02:16):
Rosen Is Your Best Friend and Childish, which is a
podcast for parents and people with parents, so a very
limited demo that they're going after their Please welcome the hilarious,
the brilliant Allison Roses. Hello. Hello, I am honoring no

(02:36):
broad day, but I have been honoring that for the
whole time we've been in our homes. Fantastic, I'm observing it. Yeah,
it's my personal holiday. Actually not, it is my personal holiday.
But also I think most people with boobs out there
are also celebrating it. Yeah, apparent it started because it's
also a National Metastatic Breast Cancer Awareness Day. I think

(02:58):
that two of them are one sort of after the
others to bring more awareness around you know, Okay, we'll
see I was going for a funny light thing and
then you really harsh. And I was trying to because
your facts sometimes cancer with the cancer fact, because sometimes
you'll see, like like on this little national day calendar thing,

(03:20):
you'll look at it and sometimes it's like a group
of friends decided what better day way to honor it.
But this very specifically, I think because obviously because October
is also breast cancer Awareness month, so it's probably right,
that's right. See I didn't even know that, and they
didn't even put that in your fall Things song. It's
the one time NFL guys are wearing pink. What's happening.

(03:44):
It's October, that's what's happening. Yeah, it's why it proves
that they are kno quests. They don't give a ship.
Breast cancer is pink? Oh, variant cancer is blue? Do
you know the other colors? No? I don't think I
do either, but I do think that they have different
colors are assigned to the different types of cancer. See

(04:06):
prostate cancer is light blue. They kind of have one
for everything. All cancers is lavender, so if you wear
a lavendar one, you kind of got them all covered. Apparently,
quit chart particular is purple, which is interesting. Thyroid is blue, pink,
and teal, which is a lot of different colors. But

(04:29):
that that's cool to like have a combo, like a
color way for your Oh man, I feel that the
term color way is kind of ridiculous, and I tweeted
something about that, like why do we need like when
did we start referring to things as color as a
color way? And then a lot of people responded saying
that this is used in sneakers a lot, And then

(04:51):
I just went deleted my tweets. I'm like, Okay, this
is potentially culturally insensitive. So I took it away that
you can possibly about Okay, probably the most vocal in
your mentions, you know, Yeah, do you feel the term
color way is necessary? Can't you just say color? I mean,

(05:11):
I get that it's a few colors. I think because
I'm a sneaker obsessed person that I grew up without
saying as a kid, I'm like, oh, that's adult color
way for that shoe, because typically it was never just
like one color. It's like, oh, it's the it's the
Carolina blue with the white and the gray or whatever
that comes together. So I've just I think as a

(05:33):
habit just brought that phrase with me. But I understand
because a lot of people, like I've said it before,
we were like color way like the combo of never mind.
I'm just think I was one of those people because
I hadn't really heard it until I started really thinking
about sneakers, like, you know, really thinking about them. I
didn't want people to know that that that I have

(05:54):
a blind spot when it comes to sneakers. I guess
I want them to think that I know, I don't
Why why are you? Why are you off the ground?
And I see nothing more? How do you do exactly how?
I legitimately have never used color way to refer to
anything but a sneaker. I thought I was using poetic license.

(06:17):
And you you came for me, Allison. You're sorry they came.
They came for me, and I'm just paying it forward. No,
I have Now I see it in ad copy for
like podcast ads, for all sorts of products. Colorway is
coming for all of us. We're all going to be
Colorways bitch. And I didn't even ask for that, you know,

(06:40):
we can. I was fine, just lit me need to
sneakers don't need to see it in decks. And I
do get most of my poetic inspiration from ad copy,
so we all past women did too. All right, Allison,
We're going to get to know you a little bit
better in a moment. First, a few of the things

(07:01):
we're talking about. We're going to talk about Amazon. They
have a very specific way of doing business, which involves
if there's any legislation looking at for workers or laws
protecting workers, they're out. So we're gonna talk about why
they pulled out of alcohol in California. We're going to
talk about the Seattle cops. Please feel for the Seattle cops.

(07:24):
They are mad about the vac's mandate. We're gonna talk
about Greg Abbott becoming just a parody of himself, and
of course we will get to the big news that
is on everybody's mind. Couch guy from TikTok, I mean
I have my theories. You know, we are a couch

(07:44):
guy to not see it. Okay, come on, the whole
internet has agreed. These people need to wake up all
of that plenty more. First out Lison, we do like
to ask uric guests, what is something from your search history?
I recently searched kidney donor bad Art Friend? Do you

(08:07):
guys know what I'm talking about? The New York Times
piece that everyone, Yes, have you guys already talked about
that on your Actually i've been. I've been getting yelled
at from her majesty and my partner because she was like,
I need to talk to you about it. You're gonna
love it. I'm like, I know, I just it's a
long read and I have to do some other stuff,
but I will. Yeah. So I forget what day specifically

(08:30):
it came out in the New York Times, but I
just started seeing all these people tweeting about kidneys and
bad Art Friend and who is the bad Art Friend,
which I believe is with the title of it, And
I'm like, how long can I persist in not knowing
what this is about? Because I sort of when the
whole Internet is talking to or obviously not the whole internet,
but all the you know in the stuff I follow.

(08:52):
When it seems that everyone was talking about something, I
sort of enjoy that moment where it's like, I know
this is going to be dumb, and I don't yet
know what it is, Like I am, I have blissful ignorance.
But then you know, I'm like, okay, fine, I can't
take it. So I looked it up and I ended
up reading the story. It is very long, but well,
some people have said to me like, it's not worth it.

(09:13):
They're both repugnant. You don't need to read it. But
I was happy that I read it. It is I
imagine this is what her Majesty has been saying to you.
But it is interesting. There's lots of way it brings.
It's one of those stories that stays with you. So
I actually do recommend reading it and then having a
conversation about it, which I haven't. I need to call
up your lady because I haven't really had a chance
to talk about it with anyone. Yea without I'll just

(09:35):
be like, hey, the homie Allison wants to talk to
you about yeah, yeah, right now, right now, right now,
right now, I'm on a plane. Do you know, does
she have an opinion about which one is the bad friend. No,
because she wanted to save that discourse, or when I
read it, she didn't want to sully my perception of
we just have to talk about this. I'm like, yes,
fuck okay. It's well written and well crafted in that

(10:00):
there's sort of a bit of a new info comes
out near the very end, which potentially colors how you'll
see it, So that might be what she's hiding this.
There was a tweet last week that captured the feeling
though by at Sassy Black Diva. She said, I hate
when you have to read an article to understand Twitter discourse,
like why are y'all assigning a bit of homework? I
just want to because' And that's how I felt to him,

(10:25):
like funck al right, Like I will read the I
will read the assignments, Miles, we have our assignment for
tomorrow's episode. We'll read that, our friend. Can you give
us the broad strokes just to entice this is an
also interesting exercise to try and have someone describe it
to you the way they think it should be described
without selling your perception. Yeah, okay, So it is about

(10:46):
two female writers. They had both been in a lot
of writing programs and that is how they met each other.
One of them is Asian American, one of them is
white and grew up more economically disadvantaged. I'd say so
the white one, And I know it sounds like a

(11:07):
like race is a part of the story though, So anyway,
she donates a kidney, like site uns like she doesn't
know who's going to receive it. She donates it, she
starts talking about it on social media, and she gets
upset that the other writer hasn't like acknowledged she's been
talking about on social media, and she feels like the

(11:28):
other one like, did you even know that I, you know,
donated my kidney. And then it turns out that the
other one writes a story about a character that donates
her kidney, and the one who donated her kidney feels
like she had inspired that story. And so then it's
sort of this question of if you write a story

(11:48):
about like who owns that story? And then the one
who wrote it says, the story is really about like
white savior complex and I feel like I did a
terrible job explained. But this is the difference. This is why,
that's why it's hard to describe it, because it's the
I think the most version that everyone's like, you just
have to read it, but just know it's about two people,

(12:09):
and you're like, are they being petty? I don't know.
You got to read it and then you'll you'll begin
to sort of understand more like it's it was weird
because her mastery. She she was like, I don't want
to so many good lines. She's like, I don't even
want to see, right, I mean, it's it's ultimately like
the it's it is it's about female I think it
is about female friendship and it's about a communication breakdown.

(12:33):
The one who donated her kidney begins to act in
ways that I think are quite petty, Like she starts
to everywhere that the one who wrote the story is
trying to publish the story. She starts contacting them, accusing
her of plagiarism. I mean, it's like it's crazy, but
there's other But then there's stuff that makes like they
both do not come off well. I'll by Robert Kulker

(12:59):
something that is not So is there a relation between
the person who's writing the story and the two friends?
Like I don't think so. And so the two friends
named Sonya Larson is the one who wrote about the
kidney donation. Don Dorland is the one who donated her
kidney Sonya Larson has is a bit more accomplished as

(13:20):
a writer. And it's like it's become a public feud
because she was trying to publish it. And that's why
it's a story, because it does feel like the sort
of drama you would see on Facebook and not in
the page of the New York Times. Right. I don't
know exactly how it came to the attention of the Times.
I know that John Dorland had been trying to get

(13:44):
the story published for a while, but that's not that's
what sort of said is an aside, like, oh, and
by the way, she had been trying to get this published,
the story about feeling that she was wronged by the writing, okay.
And then last question, which want to like I I
don't know which of those is the bad art friend?

(14:04):
That is I have the beholder got it okay, because
I was just picturing somebody who was like that at
art as a as a friend, right, making you'd be like, hey,
dudefu bad art friend that I thought it was when
I was first asked by her message, go did you

(14:26):
read it. I was like, is this about like friends
you have whose art sucks but you support them and
like you'll never tell them that the art is bad.
And you're like, oh my god, Yeah, I love to
cree that your growth as a creator. Yeah, can I go?
Can I go? Can I go? Let's get out of here,
bad improv friend? Yeah, exactly. The specific line I believe

(14:46):
it comes because Sonja says that Dawn is being a
bad art friend, because a good art friend would never
stand in the way of someone else's storytell So now
I have to reading assignment. So I have the New
York Times article about this, and then I have to
read the short story. Correct. I don't know that the

(15:08):
short story if it's as relevant, but I know people
don't know. People have not done that as part of
the assignment. Yeah, that's extra extra credit, extra Okay that
I do not do extra credit. So that's great extra
credit because I will just I will just hound the
professor during office hours and demand they change my grade. Exactly.
Did that ever work for you? No? I never did

(15:29):
that ship because I thought that was the like just
so fucking whacked to be like, you didn't do the work,
and now you're complaining about how the ship was too hard,
and I'm like, no, no, no, just be like me.
Cheat off your classmates, keep your head low, take that see,
and then you're good. Yeah, you cheated off your classmates
to get a see. I mean well, I mean it's

(15:50):
like I'm something of the lowest and like Allison to
say that, there were some lecture classes that I don't
know if I was physically there. Apparently I was according
to the sign and cheat. But you know we all
did college indicate Yeah, I think, especially when I was like,
this is a sucking scam. Yeah, maybe all this in
high school for what for what? The worst grade I

(16:12):
ever got in college? I got a D on a
group project paper that where we were like, basically it
was a class that like the professor never changed the tests,
so it's just like, yeah, so you just always had
the answers all the tests and I had just completely
written the test off and then we got a D

(16:33):
on the things it's not good. We had our ap
europh story teacher old dude. See now, bro, he didn't
he didn't change ship. And I'll be like, yo, we
got a pop quiz, but I got the answers right
here for five, would were you outside the classroom like
to find me by the flagpole? You know what I mean?

(16:53):
During the question, I was there serving fucking papers and tests.
Was always been you know, Alison, what is something you
think is overrated? Oh my god? Okay, so I have
a lot? I wrote down a lot. I mean, I'm
obviously just gonna give you one, but I'm just choosing.
It's hard for me to have for me to choose here,
but you know, I'm gonna say, and this is controversial,

(17:16):
but and this also shows my age. I think I
have begun to feel that texting is overrated. It's so convenient,
so of course my communication with other people has done
via text. However, I just feel I also find lately
that I'm starting to be that person who's like, can

(17:37):
I give you a call? Because it's just so much easier,
oftentimes faster, it takes more energy. But actually, oh, I
can't believe I'm this person, uh just talking to so
much is lost on text. And also it actually like
my thumbs get tired, my fingers feel fat. I just

(17:58):
I don't know. It's sometimes times, if it's if you're
trying to make plans, I find and if you're trying
to make plans and there's multiple variables a phone call
or occasionally a voice memo. It just gets it done
faster and easier and there's less chance for a miscommunication.
Yeah yeah, email, texting, I think are all Generally they

(18:20):
seem like the most convenient thing, especially for me, somebody
who has like social anxiety, and so every conversation is
built up in my mind ahead of the time, like
this is going to be hard, and then they're always
pretty painless. But this person is going to yell at
me if I are so mad, I can tell based
on their text, right, okay, I'm I'm free, Then okay,

(18:42):
I'm free. You have to wear body armor for this.
A voice call is downright aggressive in this day and age.
But I just think we're missing something by insisting on texting,
even though I didn't think there's a lot of things
that can cannot be solved efficiently over text. Like you're

(19:04):
saying like because if you're on because watch like you're
saying Alice, and you're trying to plan something, but you
know it's probably there's like three conditions may have to
be meant for this other person. That's a fucking potentially
two and a half hour conversation Twitter like a text
exchange and you're like yeah, blah blah blah, and they're like, yeah,
well if this other thing happens, okay, well then look
into that because if we can, then I can. We
can try and adjust it like this, and then you

(19:26):
do it incrementally versus hopping on the phone like hey,
I got reservations here, but if you can't make it,
we can shift to this time, except we would have
to sit here blah blah blah blah blah. Done exactly,
but exactly. Yes, last night I gotta Greg fitz Simmons,
with whom I do childish. We had our time set
for the podcast today and then he's like, oh, I

(19:47):
messed up. Can you do this time? And it We
went back a couple of times on text, and then
I just called him because I knew it was going
to get it was gonna be fo texts and also
texting like gives you permission to I think I think you,
at least I tend to give myself permission to be
like more, I don't know you could you. It gives you,

(20:11):
It grants you an emotional remove whereas if you're talking
to somebody, You're going to be more yourself and like
kind of a little bit warmer. I feel like, yeah, yeah,
I wonder if that'd be interesting experience experiment, because like
everyone has people they text with like nearly every day
or every other day, when if you're like, what if
we just caught up on the phone for fifteen minutes? Right?

(20:34):
You see, I don't even want to do that, despite
what I'm saying, but be good. Yeah, no, I'll look,
I'm trying to connect with people and just trying to
be more efficient. That's right. Thank you for seeing when
I completely misunderstood I'm saying. It's not about in connection no, no,
but saving my thumbs a little bit of energy, that's right. No,

(20:57):
I get what you're saying. You're right, No, I mean
I think it would be interesting. There's this old uh
I forget if it was. It was like a magazine
article that I must have been like trapped on a
plane without any WiFi, And because I as I was
reading it, I was like, why the fuck is the
same magazine article about like how they saved the World

(21:18):
War Z movie like it was a mess, and they
like basically brought in this fixer who's like a Hollywood
producer who they bring in anytime like something's fucked up.
And their main innovation is they refused to read email
or texts and everything has to take place in conversation
or you just like come by and see them. And

(21:40):
I don't know that gave me permission to uh stop
reading emails, just ignoring everyone's we haven't been able to
get ahold of you. Yeah, but did you hear about
the guy who saved World War z? Uh? Let's take
a quick break and we'll come back and find out
what you think is underrated? M And we're back and

(22:10):
it's time to find out als and what is something
you think is underrated? Brain teasers? I don't hear about
brain teasers ever anymore, and I don't know where they're hiding.
I don't know if I'm just people think that I'm
not a brain teaser person, but I really get a
kick out of them growing up. I feel like, you know,
you hear about the twins, one always lies, one always

(22:31):
tells the truth, and you hear about the three light bulbs,
or like broken glass water, a dead body, what happened?
I love stuff like that. I don't ever hear them anymore?
Where are they? Yeah? What the I didn't even think
about that? Now, Maybe I need to be looking at
readers digested. Do they have brain teasers in there? I

(22:52):
just googled brain teasers for adults and the number one
result is fifty eight brain teasers that will leave you stumped. Okay, Okay,
here we go. You're ready. Yeah. A man pushes his
car to a hotel, and there's ned covering up the
rest of us. A man pushes this car to a

(23:13):
hotel and tells the owner he's bankrupt. Why that's okay?
Is that a joke that feels like more of a
joke than it's similar to the one I'll give you.
Do you feel stumped? Do you feel stumped me? I'll
give you a corollary one that I heard as a
kid that might help you explain this. A guy is

(23:34):
running home. It's Halloween. There's a man waiting at home
with a mask who he's afraid of, but he keeps running.
Do you know that one he's running home there's a
there's a man with a mask that he's afraid of,
so he keeps running. So I'm guessing it's like a

(23:56):
medical mask or something not not a Halloween mask. So
it's a it's the World Series. It's baseball. He's running
to home plate and there's the guy waiting. There's the
catcher who has a ball, but he has to keep going.
So this one is he's playing monopoly. So a man
pushed his car at the hotel tells the owner's backs.

(24:16):
See that's see that's culturally biased. Maybe they're not underrated.
Fuck these ones, I don't know. All right, let's talk
about Amazon. They were close to building a warehouse facility
in al cahoone and then they found out about a
law that San Diego County was implementing that basically makes

(24:40):
it so that you have to pay your workers a
livable wage give them oh oh they're going to cost
and also somebody taking off in a penis shaped rocket.
What prevailing union wages? Um so yeah, Also fifty six

(25:06):
hours of annual sickly for work, just you know, the basics,
humane working conditions with livel paying wages that are life
sustaining and not subsubsistence wages. And that's Amazon was like whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,
We're actually gonna cancel this. And but here's the thing.
They're a spokesperson and all of their what they're talking about,
they'll never admit that it's because of this. They said. Oh,

(25:28):
while we have decided not to pursue the side at alcohol,
we continue to assess opportunities to invest and grow across
the region. We appreciate the time and attention committed committed
by the City of San Diego, as well as local
community leaders and officials. Amazon is a dynamic business and
we are constantly exploring new locations. We weigh variety of
factors on deciding where to develop future sites to best
serve our customers, and this common for us to explore

(25:49):
multiple locations simultaneously and just and adjust based on our
operational needs, which is to pay people. Fuck all. Yeah,
we enjoyed meeting a few, but after talking with corporate,
we've decided to go a different direction. We'll definitely keep
you in mind though. That's what it feels like, right
right right, I mean, that would keep in mind that

(26:11):
was haunting that that was an amazing ability to slip
into hr speak. That was me applying for jobs in
two thousand seven. Yeah, every time there's a book good
too great about companies that like beat stock market expectations
consistently over decades, and it has this like central principle

(26:31):
called the hedgehog principle, where every company that thrives as
hard as Amazon has for like the past third years,
has like one thing that they do better than anyone
else in the world, and they just repeatedly double down
on that thing over and over. And for Amazon, that
thing is extracting inhumane amounts of work out of people

(26:52):
while paying them low wages and then hiding that process
from the consumer so that it seems like it's just
a fucking magic trick, like they're able to perform miracles
where you click a button and the thing arrives at
your house, to the degree that I feel like it
has changed how we think of the time space continuum.

(27:13):
Like I was, I was in the woods over the weekend.
Can't can't go camping without bragging about it because I
built a fire like a yeah, like a real yeah,
don't worry about it. Anyways. My five year old was
as I was sucking up dinner, you know, hot dogs
and mac and cheese over a campfire. Mac and cheese

(27:34):
apparently shouldn't have a little black things in it, and
he was like, hey, let's just order sushi and have
it appear out in the woods because Amazon has you know,
it's not it's not like Amazon is our food delivery
service of but I feel like just generally, it has
created a reality where things can be ordered on your

(27:57):
phone and magically appear, and so I like explain to it, well,
there's actually like people who do that work and would
have to drive all the way out here, and like
it's just not possible. But yeah, the the fact that
it's not just magically appearing, that people are doing backbreaking
work to make these things appear and being paid poorly.
Is that's the thing that they figured out. My kids

(28:21):
have the same well, not owing so much. He's only two,
but Elliott, his four is all about but can we
buy it on your phone? Can we buy it on
your computer? That is where everything comes. Yes, yeah, it's
literally like a magic trip. Like just even when I
order something and it takes, you know, ten days or something.

(28:43):
I'm always stunned by this because I am also so
used to just clicking something and then you know before
right when you navigate away from that page and there's
already an email thanking you for your order. And then
it arrives in a couple of days. I mean, it is,
and I think that it's so convenient that we we

(29:04):
all choose to ignore the reality of how it's happening.
It's you know, it's sort of like, uh, like buying
a piece of chicken. You don't you know, I don't
want to think about that there was a head attached
to this. I'd rather just push that out of my head. Yeah. Yeah,
I mean it's just kind of the there. Their model

(29:24):
is to break the social contract but hide that from
people so they don't have to think about it or
just or that it's like hey, I mean they're they're
breaking the social contract. But like I got this fucking
waterproof bluetooth speaker in like eighteen hours though yea the
same day delivery, right. And it's also caused me to

(29:46):
like realize too, like to actually try and challenge myself
to not rely on like that instant gratification aspect, especially
like with consumer goods, Like I'll try and go to
a store if I can, just to kind of remind
myself that there is this, like there's a process to
things still, because when it gets so obscured versus like

(30:07):
click click click, click, clicking, it's here. I'm I find
myself getting a little more like impatient, Like you know,
especially like when I was like trying to get stuff
like a move or something like having to order things
and do all this other kind of stuff. I just
became more and more impatient because I've lost touch like
the former reality, which is to be like, all right,
we gotta get in the car and go to the
store to get this stuff today. But you know, but

(30:30):
it has made things easier for other people, so to
each their own, but I'm I can see being a
slippery slope for me. Yeah. We are back and forth
between like never using Amazon and then like occasionally using
it when like something is needed. But we are generally
trying to be a no Amazon household, and it definitely

(30:50):
adds days to the process. But it's definitely the Other
thing that's good is most places that you would buy
something off of, like buy something from Amazon, Like if
you go to their website, they're usually yo, get off,
just off the rip. Because we're competing with ourselves against Amazon,
Brussel ship it pretty quickly. And when I actually kind

(31:12):
of started looking at it like that, and I'm like, oh, yes,
it's really not that hard, especially if you know, and
if I needed something immediately like band aids and ship
go to CBS. Yeah exactly, Amazon Prime that ship. Yeah,
that's good. It's good. Like our brains work better when
our feed are moving, So it's good to like go
do something instead of just making it vis CBS, Yeah exactly.

(31:37):
Don't you think of a little the little guy? Yeah, Walgreens. Well,
let's let's talk about Seattle cops. They are protesting the
demand that they get the vaccine that is that has
proven to be a bridge too far to protect themselves
from a thing that is the number one killer of

(31:58):
police in the nation. Yeah. If you go to the
officer down memorial page like website where it's there to
like honor phone law enforcement, the COVID page is so
lengthy and like it's wild when you scroll, because you'll
see like clusters of multiple deaths, like in a certain place,
like whether it's a correctional facility or like a smaller

(32:19):
sheriff's office. But even on that page that's like ran
to like honor the phone, they're like, please get the
fucking vaccine. It's the number one killer of law enforcement. Please.
But most people have looked at this as just a
culture war thing as it evolved out of the uprising.
They think of last summer, and you know, every every

(32:40):
place is dealing with a different way. In California, you've
got Alex killing Aueva. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, Alex Villan Aueva,
the sheriff. You're saying, I'm not going to enforce vaccine mandates.
I'm gonna lose half my guys and then they won't
be able to be current in their deputy gangs. Google
l A s D gangs also quick reminder, and then
also if you look in Oregon, there was state troopers
who tried to get a judge to block the governor's

(33:02):
vaccuum mandate. The judge was like, this is well within
their like per view as governor to mandate this for
public health people because they're trying to protect you and
the general public from the ills of pandemic. And with
Seattle there they have about thirty eight percent of their
like officers and staff are not vaccinated and the deadline

(33:23):
is approaching, and the mayor has been trying to do
like all this stuff like okay, well, if you how
about more paid leave, how's how's how how's it an
additional forty hours of paid leave to address any pandemic
COVID related issues that you have to address. We'll give
you that time off in addition to the forty hours
paid leave we gave you at the beginning of this pandemic.

(33:43):
So you have two three weeks just to use for
whatever you want to say, has COVID related? No? Still no,
still want to You're really gonna turn your back on
these pensions that people are paying through their teeth for. Okay,
So it's a bit of a waiting game to see
what happens with a mayor does not seem very you know,
doesn't seem quick to suddenly be like, oh, yes, religious

(34:06):
exemptions for a city that's famously not religious. And then
the New York Post, of course tied it to how
me and everybody's been to police for for a long
time now, you know, wn't you think of their feelings.
There's this quote in this article. The environment has been
pretty toxic and negative, one unnamed officer told Fox thirteen News,

(34:29):
not just from this whole mandate, but prior to that
as well. I'm not sure this would be a good
place for me to work long term for my mental health.
It has been very stressful. There's episode of Friends where
where Joey has a hernia. He's in a lot of
pain from his hernia and he doesn't have health insurance,

(34:51):
but he's like, if I get health insurance, I think
I'm gonna get lazy, And they're all like, what are
you talking? Like you you're in the midst of a
medical emergency right now. He's talking about like the you know,
elective surgeries he might get. And for some reason that
I keep being reminded of that, Like there is a
pandemic that is trying to kill all of us, and

(35:11):
people are sitting there being like, hm, but what about
my freedom to resist the DA DA DA? And I
know that in their distorted or well in view of
what's going on, like people are using the emergence, you know,
this deadly pandemic as an excuse to enforce compliance or whatever.
But I just I'm so, so, so, so so frustrated

(35:33):
by the anti bactors. I went on kind of a
social media binge over the weekend because I've become aware.
I become very aware that I have a phone compulsion addiction,
and an episode of my show. My guest was Pete Holmes,
and we were talking about it, and he kind of
held a unflattering mirror up to me regarding the in

(35:55):
in a in a gentle kind way, like regarding the
phone compulsion addiction and like not making me happy. And
so in that conversation I kind of realized, like, I
need to get a grip on this and probably be
on my phone less. So in light of that, I
felt like I went on like one last hurrah, and
just like the wheels came off and I barely saw
my family all weekend because I was just fighting with

(36:17):
anti factors online and it was such a waste of
time and it was so stupid, and I'm still irritated
that I spent my time that way, and I don't
think I moved the needle for anyone, But you know, ultimately,
I was just going back and forth with someone who's
like definitely a follower of Q who believes there's a
huge conspiracy going on and wouldn't even tell me what

(36:39):
the conspiracy is. She's like, you gotta go to this website,
make an account like this website where free speech is allowed,
and I'm like, why can't you you just tell me,
like this is like an MLM. Like she just wouldn't.
She's like, I've told you where to go to get
the information. It's called research, and it's so factual that
they have to behind it. I'm like, why can't you

(37:00):
just tell me? She's like, because you wouldn't believe, Like
you have to see it to believe it, to start
by accepting that everything you think you know is a lie. Okay, Okay,
I mean no I haven't. It's so oh my god.
But but anyway, are like, ultimately does it all come

(37:21):
down to, like, are they followers of Q do they
believe there's a huge conspiracy? I think? Are they just dumb?
What's going on? If? I mean, it's a good if
the door is creaky in a jar to to the
queue room, if you're in the lobby of anti vax
you know that's for sure. So it's easy to because
I mean, already there is so much conspiratorial thinking around

(37:44):
what this vaccine is or is not that I think
that's that's a really good right, good good soil, for
fertile soil for to be able to sprout new green
shoots of other conspiratorial thinking as well. But then there
are people who are just like you know, o G
like people who just don't like vaccines, who I'm somehow like,

(38:05):
how have how have you not gone to Q world
yet you're just still just being like no, man, it's
these vaccines just very narrowly because my whole thing is
like big pharma conspiracies. But I love Costco. Uh right,
all right, Uh maybe that's how you've justified your beliefs.
But yeah, I mean I think it's a it's a
broad spectrum, but I've definitely seen people go from flat

(38:28):
earth to Q or from flat earth to anti vaccine
to QUE. There's very there's I mean, hey, there's so
many ways you can get there. I'm just wondering what
these cops, Like, why are they It's the same with
healthcare workers who won't get the vaccine, Like what is
going on? And yet the vast majority of doctors who

(38:48):
have a greater understanding of medicine are vaccinated. Yeah, I
think there's there's with the cops. I think it's it
really boils down to the same people who had our
backs in the summer of are people who don't like vaccines,
so I think, and because there's a lot of overlap
there anyway. It was just sort of like, yeah, you know,

(39:11):
this isn't about what you say is a real vaccine
or whatever. I'm already in a sort of mindset where
I'm not going to hand Joe Biden a win or
liberals a win or anything like that. So that's how
I'm probably like looking at it, because there are cops
that are vaccinated who are just like, no, man, I've
seen so too many other cops died, So why the
funk would I do this? So even within that, I mean,

(39:33):
it's it's, you know, there it's hard to really parse
through all the differences, but I think a huge block
of these people are the same ones who are you know,
hate the a language of reforming law enforcement in any
shape or form, And because people who want to reform
law enforcement tend to also believe in vaccines, then it's
like just an athemat of them, right right. It's it's

(39:56):
also strikes me as like, hey, issue with just the
culture in police forces very much, you know it Well,
it started as with, you know, just just technologically the
stuff they were inheriting from the military was very much
like we're taking this technology of this war technology, these weapons,

(40:19):
these vehicles that the military uses in well like being
an invading force in a land where they view everybody
as an enemy. And that has always been but like
increasingly is how police forces view the communities that they

(40:41):
police in a lot like that seems to be the
mainstream way of viewing it. And so just having a
protest where there ways of operating is questioned, like I
think just I think you're right. It's just like created
this like cultural like rift in police forces where they

(41:04):
were just like all right, now now it's really on now,
like this is kind of what they always wanted to believe,
is that everybody was against them and that they were
the last good guys in a land that is like
lost its soul or whatever. And so now this and yeah,
there's a scary overlap between that and and queue, and

(41:24):
I don't know, it seems like very This was always
like one of my big concerns when like in the
kind of years of the Trump administration was that like
if they just openly got the police to join in
on whatever fucking wild conspiracy that he was going to
make up like that, that that's a pretty powerful force

(41:47):
that they have on their side. It felt like that
happened at times. Yeah, yeah, in small pockets. But it's
like one of those things like if suddenly, you know,
every every department was like, no, we're going lockstep with
what this guys saying, Yeah, then you truly have your
shock troops that are armed like on the streets to
write like remember an Oregon when when vans were picking

(42:10):
up protesters that, yeah, that felt like that was happening. Then, Yeah,
for sure, like in a in like that way where
they're like ship people are actually videotaping us. All right,
dial that back a little bit, but yeah, I mean
that's sort of I think like we've seen people feel
that based on how the president was talking when it

(42:32):
was Trump that then they suddenly they had carte blanche
to do whatever the funk they wanted. In some places,
you know, quite took it that way. But and I
get that minds. I don't condone it at all. But
like I as an observer, I understand that mindset. I
just don't know how that extends to therefore I won't
get vaccinated. Like that's the link that I don't understand.
I think because on something just and I think just

(42:53):
basic you know, psychological terms to take the vaccine would
acknowledge that you're in a situation that you're completely out
of control, like and where you're completely out of control
because they if I don't take it, and I don't,
I never got it, then I'm in control based on
my very narrow view of what control is or what

(43:16):
outside factors affect my life. But if you suddenly capitulate
and you're like, fuck, yeah, I gotta I got the vaccine,
then now you're you're fully I can imagine. I'd imagine
like if you're so afraid to like to to relinquish
your perception of what control you have over your life too,
then to be like technology, there's ship that I'm not
in control of and this is the best thing to

(43:38):
protect me. That's just, again, I think, just too much
for somebody to go there, because it's easier to just
stay in this very rigid mindset where well, if I
don't do this, then it's fine because I've been okay
and I'm in control. It's just me and my god
given antibodies and the dozens of other vaccines that have
kept me alive to the point, it's about sunlight, vitamins,

(44:01):
healthy food, natural menity, The person I was going back
and forth with told me she'll pray for me, because
clearly I've gotten the experimentally, isn't it I've gotten the
experimental job. I don't even want to find out what
I put in my body and that I probably have
about three years max. Yeah, them to pray for you,

(44:25):
isn't that so sweet? Well, at one point I just wrote,
Jesus is pro vax. I don't like, I don't know
what I was doing. Yeah, alright, where's that picture where
like you know those old like fucking paintings like of
Jesus doing yeah, exactly, like but Jesus getting vaccinated. Yeah,
that's I mean, someone should do that. They're at direct

(44:48):
cross purposes, although I guess you could when you're talking about, yeah,
the Haroin one. So there's a Haroin one where like
a junkie is like shooting up and Jesus is putting
his arm in place to be like, I'll take the
suffering for you, which actually just seems greedy if you yeah,
from the Hey look at this right, it's not like

(45:11):
Jesus is gonna have O d uh say the best
of all, but like why they could just be like that,
just label that vaccine and put that down there like
it would have the same message. Right, Oh yeah, helping
them avoid the vaccine. Right, and Christ is again once
again giving up his body so you can be free

(45:35):
in the Kingdom of Heaven. Oh my god, Jack, I
might have to I might have to switch lines here
and be like a psi op against like evangelicals. Oh man, Like,
I don't know if you really we're really thinking about this?
How Christ is you know when uh, you got the
vaccine and suddenly there was just one set of footsteps
on the beach. Why did you forsake me when I

(45:56):
got the job? Jesus was actually caring you over his
head like a w W wrestlers just about the body slam. Or.
You're a guy who says you had in your death
experience you went to the gates of heaven and they
almost sent you to hell because you weren't vaccinated. Because
you were vaccinated. Right, No, no, no, that you weren't.

(46:16):
Just to get more people on board, You're like, no, man,
I'm telling you, I've never been more frightened than when
I looked St. Peter in his eyes and he said,
I will cast you to the depths of Hell for
not getting the Maderna Johnson and Johnson or fazer BioNTech
and I'm r Ana vaccinent. Okay, yeah, all right, let's
take a quick break and we'll come back and hopefully

(46:39):
we'll have time to talk about catch. Guy. I don't
know if we've left ourselves the forty five minutes that
the subject clearly deserves. But we'll see. And we're back,
and the question on everyone's lips is couch catch cheating

(47:02):
or are we just pathetic and very bored us? Yeah? People,
I did not know. Yeah, I did not know what
this was until you wrote this compelling story. And like me,
I need I need a younger person to ask me
what I think in a text mess by what huh? Who? Yeah?
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah he cheating? But yes, the latest

(47:23):
TikTok fad is analyzing just a fairly innocuous video of
a young woman going to surprise her long distance boyfriend
at his college and she had helped from mutual friends
to pull the surprise off, and they even recorded it,
and she was just more like, this is a nice
moment and I just wanted to put it this. It's
very uneventful. I will describe it to you she enters

(47:43):
with her rollie bag. Some people in the apartment were like, oh,
look who it is there. Her boyfriend is on the
couch with two other women. He gets up slowly. He's
not outwardly, you know, like beaming with smiles or anything,
or jumping up and down or screaming or being smiling,
though he's covering his face like oh my god, like
it's but I've seen it's not. Yeah, I've seen surprise

(48:08):
party reactions though that are very similar. Like the person
just like almost feels like sheepish, like they've been tricked.
They're happy, but like they're like, oh my god, you guys,
I didn't believe it. That's the sort of ambiguity that's
generating all of this talk. Because again, he gets up,
hugs are it's over. It's kind of boring if you

(48:28):
just look at it as you know, whatever video that
you think would go viral is there's like music playing
in it that sounds like some ship that would be
blaring out of like a Karen's car to call the
cops on you because a wheely on your bicycle in
front of her neighbor's house. Okay, but yeah, so I
think we've all seen the clip. Yes, yes, and again

(48:51):
this has created so much commentary and analysis where everyone goes,
the way this dude got up is sus. The way
that the two chicks on the couch they didn't do nothing,
They weren't happy or anything, suss. Yeah, I think he
had a woman's hair tie on his wrist, sus he was.
I think he hit his he got his phone from
underneath his arm. That the young woman sitting next to

(49:12):
him handing him suss. Why does she have his phone right?
And why are you handing it back like that like
you're doing like a you know, they like a coordinated,
coordinated body language thing. Yeah. So again I present to
you all you what is everyone's assessment is? First of all,
do you think it's so apparent that it deserves all

(49:33):
of this attention that or is it possible that he's
just awkward and was like, Yo, you're shooting this ship too.
I told you I hate this TikTok ship, but it
is I will just say at the outside, like there
are probably a hundred other examples of very similar videos
because everything has been filmed on social media, very similar
videos where the person was clearly not happy to see

(49:55):
them this, I think is only becoming a thing because
it's so like down the middle and boring that you
can kind of project anything you want onto it and
with bad art friend all over again. Yeah, it's like
so I think. I think the point is not that
it's obvious. The point is that there are so many

(50:18):
fun boys out there who are like, oh, what are
you doing here? Why? Wait? Why did you? Why did
you come? Like you know who would respond to this
like in a very shady and obvious way. But the
fact that this person was kind of subdued and that
allows you to kind of both be outraged that people

(50:38):
are making a big deal out of it, or also
outraged on the behalf of the surprise. E is you
guys lady friends? Yeah? Yeah, but Alison, I want to
hear you. My reaction was, he doesn't seem excited to
see her. He didn't. Now I if I I'm wondering
if I had just seen it without knowing that you know,

(50:58):
that it was the couch guy video, if I might
have had a different reaction because I was primed to
notice things that seemed off. But I bought. I buy
into the idea that they are not going to last
because he really didn't see he didn't pop up. I
didn't see him smiling, but maybe he wasn't. I can't
see that well anymore. But I sound like I'm like

(51:19):
years old. Was the last this is my last podcast episode.
In my day, we watched Friends and Got Vaccine one
where Joey. But anyway, to me, the whole thing was
like passing the phone. I tried to see that and

(51:39):
see if there's anything to suspective about that. I that
didn't really read to me, but my in general, my
reaction was like, yeah, he really took a long time
to get up. He didn't seem overjoyed. However, in my day,
we smoked pot in college and we would have taken
a long time to get off the couch. So if

(52:01):
the answer was they were all really stoned, that would
explain everything to me. But no one has offered that.
I don't. For me, I'm not in the camp that
he's cheating. I didn't see any cheat or tradecraft, so
to speak, occurring in the video. What would that be
over excitement? Yeah, yeah, just some some, just some. I

(52:21):
these are the things I would believe that I don't
know what year of college they're in, but trust me,
if it's the first two chances are he's checked the
funk out over a long distance relationship, and he was
probably sitting with these two ladies that who knows if
he I've been in that place. And you start being like, yeah,
you know, just not working out between us. We barely
see because really what you're doing is you're you're being like,

(52:43):
you know, I'm kind of open to ship, you know
what I mean, that's IM gonna come to you with
some of my problems right now. And it felt like
his energy may have been more like, oh, ship, she's here, y'all.
The one I was telling you a girl like how
you've been there's definitely I will give I will give that.
His his response is one that I would be a
little bit maybe upset about if I was the person surprising.

(53:06):
But I don't know if I can see cheating off
the out the gate like other people are this. Do
you see the one where like the woman was analyzing
it and she's like these two other girls in the thing,
they are not her friend and other women know this.
They weren't happy for her when she came in. They
didn't get up and embrace her with open arms. Those
aren't your friends, And chances are they weren't because maybe

(53:27):
you just popped in on him in some random, really
nice apartment because that apartment was really nice. Why would
why would why would it? Why would you think they
were her friends. She's surprised that's exactly her boyfriend out
of college that she doesn't go to. He is smiling.
I'm just rewatching it over and over again. He's kind
of beaming and just like a little bit subdued and

(53:50):
kind of being like, oh my god, like he I
can guarantee they're not going to stay together because they
are in a long distance relationship well and college. But
it has nothing, it has nothing to do with this
video and this whole thing, because people are looking at
this clip like the fuckings the Pruder film, trying to

(54:11):
be like, oh just just sprain here, like look look
going on there. No, no, no, no, no, this says everything,
even though it doesn't. There now the people that are
in the video are like so tired of all the attention.
Couch guy, he like he put out a tweet or
something he said, quote not everything is true crime, don't
be a para social creep. And then other people said
you can gaslight your girlfriends. You can't gaslight hold on,

(54:35):
hold on, hold on, This isn't even you. Y'all are
jumping into such conclusions. I cannot believe what I'm saying.
And then his roommate, couch Guy's roommate was like, people
are like putting like sneaking messages under our door, asking
about the video, and he said, well, y'all are so
fucking creepy. Sometimes I can't um he's and then just saying,

(54:55):
it's like watching a soap opera and knowing who the
bad guys. So there's just like all these weird you know,
everyone has a take. Everyone's insisting, even to the people
who are like, we're fine, that's it was just a
video I posted to be like commemorated thing, and now
we're subject of all this analysis. I wonder if all
this attention might hasten or delay there otherwise natural breakup. Though,

(55:17):
Think about what it must feel like to be them
right now, because they have to prove it's like Schrodinger's
couch Guy, like they have to you know, everyone's observing it,
and that's got to be a pressure cooker. Of course,
because if couch guys cheating for real, or if he
was going to break up, bro, you better buckle up
for the long haul here if they like that, because
in his mind, he's like like they fucking got me,

(55:40):
and I can't let him get I can't have an
update post from her, and they have read it being
like we know it, we were right. It is crazy
that this has gone viral to this degree though, because
it is such an otherwise boring video, very little happening.
There's I think a lot of people look get it,
like on TikTok, especially like people love to do deep

(56:03):
dives or like you know, anti vax or people have
been docked through like these like clever TikTok accounts, so
people like there's a language within TikTok to like get
deeply analytical. And I think it's just like, you know,
just in general, I think Americans, especially like they're just
are you know, Western culture. They're into solving ship you know,

(56:23):
like whether it's like snitching on your insurrectionist neighbors or
co workers on janius like kill let me just tell
you someone that guy was there. I've seen it on
his Facebook, or these other assholes who thought they solved
the szodiac killer case. People just I think, have this
desire to get to the bottom of stuff, and in
some cases it's like it's completely inappropriate or you have

(56:45):
you don't even have like the lightest semblance of the
facts to even begin to, you know, hypothesize about something.
But this is making me realize something. So I posted
a snippet of my back and forth in an Instagram
story with one of these anti vaxers, and she accused
me of doxing her, And I'm like, what are you
talking about that year you were commenting with me in

(57:06):
a public forum. But if on TikTok, if that's a
thing and they consider it doxing, that must be why
she said that. Or No, it'll be something where someone
will have an account that's like really popular, but it's hidden,
like you don't know who is behind it, and then
they'll sort of unmask the account. More so than just
being like people being like, hey, I have a rightful
expectation to privacy on Twitter. No you don't. You don't.

(57:30):
That's what was Yeah, that's the thing, that's like you're
we We were deep into Candice Cameron's post anti vax
post and I had left I put a comment in there,
and then she was going back and forth with me,
and yet said that by my posting a snippet of
that in a story which goes away, that's doxing her.

(57:50):
And I was like, please please, girlfriend, Oh hi, look
at this person I'm talking to who's like coming up.
You're not saying this is this person's full name, this
is where they work, this is their address. But I
guess for those people, they need those buzzwords to say, like,
I don't know, maybe they think you have some super

(58:11):
powerful harassment account and they're gonna be I think I
think she does, but yeah I don't. If you like,
check the numbers, Okay, yeah, maybe you should be scared. Okay.
Do we think this is related? Because the Zodiac Killer
is one of the kind of recent zeitgeist phenomenon that
could that I still haven't really made sense of, because

(58:33):
it's almost like a new batch of people just joined
the internet all on the same day and are like,
we found the Zoe Killer, and it's like, what's your project, right,
and like, you know, the FBI immediately came out and
said that the claim that they identify the Zodiac Killer
is inaccurate. The case remains open. We talked about like

(58:56):
the evidence they've laid out so far, like some forehead
wrinkle and his connection to a case that they the
police already said is not connected to the Zodiac was
based on a So it's like it's it's just but
it got major pick up and like that's what everybody
was talking about, how the Zodiac killer case had been

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cracked last week. Is there, like is TikTok like adding
some a new infusion of energy to like the we
solved it, like sort of thing that happened on Reddit
for so long. I think it just gives I mean,
maybe that there's another venue for it. I don't know
if it's necessarily like a catalyst for increased desires to

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do that, but I think probably just in general, like
in the last five years, with misinformation and things like that,
people are I want to be in a place where
they're like I won't get food again, and they want
to look at everything and and trying. I mean, because
it would again back to this idea of control. If
you look at even a normal TikTok video and say

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that guy's cheating and blah blah blah, and I know what,
no further questions your honor, like I don't know if
I'm not sure what that person's personal relationships might be
like out in the out in the real world, But
I don't know. I mean, it certainly gives a place
to like project that energy and like in a way
that I guess seems constructive or I guess because we're
commodifying everything in this age. Now you have a piece

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of content where you can get some clip and wait,
wait till they find out about the jfk assassination. That's
gonna really fuck some people up. That's your whole belief.
You're like, come on, zoomers, bring bring Daddy home. Who
didn't you knew it was that secret service guy who
aired shot? It was an accident. Alison as always such

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a pleasure having you. Where can people find you and
follow you? Follow me on social media? I promise I
won't get into it with you at Alison Rosen on
Twitter and Instagram and then listen to my podcast Alison Rosen,
Is you your best friend and childish? And is there
a tweet or some of the work of social media
you've been enjoying? Yes? Do you guys know Tim Calpakis

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know how that is? Have you had him on the show.
I don't think we've had him, but I'm a fame.
He was my sketch. He was my first sketch comedy
writing teacher. Really. So he's in the Birthday Boys and
the Sloppy Boys, and he's been on my podcast a bunch,
and he tweets it's at Tim Calpakis, but he like
keeps changing the personality of who he's tweeting as, And

(01:01:34):
for the longest time it was Linda Underwear, and now
it's Beverly Mysterious. And Beverly mysterious. Is it's like the
personality of someone who thinks they're breaking like gigantic bits
of gossip. Like everything is like hushed and mysterious, and

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I'm having trouble articulating the personality, but I just I'm
I'm endlessly amused by everything Tim tweets. And so an
example of like a Beverly mysterious tweet is it seems
a certain big butt rappers cousin's friend may not exactly
have the tiniest balls anymore. And then it's an emoji
of an eye. It's just like a lot of particulous
stuff like that. Yeah, Miles, where can people find you,

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what's the tweet you've been enjoying? Twitter, Instagram at Miles
of Gray. Also their show four twenty Day Fiance was
Sophia Alexandro where we talk ninety day some tweets that
I like, Man, there's there are some good ones. Okay,
I don't know if you might have to put me
onto this people who go to Trader Joe's. But this

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is again this from test Lynch past guests at Mr
test Lynch tweetd quote Trader Joe's employees have to congratulate
you on your purchase denier until today when the checkout
guy said this apple juice is so nice. And I
was like, wait, is this a thing like at Trader

(01:03:02):
Joe's that they'll comment on the things here? Because I
remember when I got spicy mango lemonade the other day.
The manager, not even someone checking out, like oh that yeah,
I see you, And I was like the fuck. And
I was like, what do you mean, like you know
I'm gonna drink this with vodka later or what? That's good?
So if that's true, I just like that idea, like

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that this apple juice is so nice. Um. And then
one more from at Fat Nudes heck Bundy is this
play name, says Megan Fox and Machine Gun Kelly are
the Angelina Jolie and Billy Bob Thornton for zoomers. Some
tweets I've been enjoying. You can find me on Twitter.
Check underscore. Brian tweets of it enjoying. Ian Carmel tweeted

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twenty year older out here with baby pictures that just
looked like a current picture of the baby and not
like a grainy still from a true crime documentary like
the rest of us. And first Mate Pray It's at
buck x Top tweeted, don't understand people who are productive
during the weekend. Weekends are for feeling weird and wondering

(01:04:08):
if your friends hate you. And then p J Evans tweeted,
Willie Wanka is so weird. I've had chocolate too, Bro,
not gonna act all weird because of it. That Willy
Wanta's back because of the Timothy shallow May picture that
we all want. All right, Wanta, You're proud of the

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the information that we talked about in today's episode, as
well as a song that we think you guys might enjoy. Miles,

(01:04:55):
what song are we sending them to today? We're gonna
go out on a track called Vibrate from Mr Jukes
and Barney Artists. This just sounds When I was listening
to it at first, when the beat dropped, I'm like,
is this like a unreleased track from like fucking Midnight
Marauders or something. So if you like Tribe and you
like that boom bap, possible J Diller type production, this

(01:05:15):
track has just just those good old nineties wrap vibes
that I love. So this is Mr Jukes and Barney
Artists with Vibrate. Awesome. All right, well go check that out.
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