Sheriff Gangs Still A Thing, Drones For The Home? 7.16.21

In episode 952, Jack and Miles are joined by investigative journalist Cerise Castle to discuss LASD gangs, the US Military having trained the Haitian presidents assassins, drones for the home, the old hot dog scam, and more!

FOOTNOTES:

1. Support Knock.LA!
2. UPDATE: LA County Democratic Party Calls for Sheriff Villanueva’s Resignation
3. The LASD Wants to Sweep Venice, but Councilmember Mike Bonin has Other Ideas
4. U.S. military once trained Colombians implicated in Haiti assassination plot, Pentagon says
5. Why were Colombian ex-soldiers in Haiti? Experts say they are popular mercenaries
6. Amazon’s Ring now reportedly partners with more than 2,000 US police and fire departments
7. Ring Always Home Cam: Everything you need to know about the flying indoor camera
8. Heinz Hot Dog Pact
9. Heinz Ketchup Brokers Hot Dog Negotiations Between Wiener and Bun Companies, Demanding a Solution for Unequal Packs
10. Kraft Heinz’s nightmare is far from over
11. The New Shortage: Ketchup Can’t Catch Up
12. WATCH: Father of the Bride - Hot Dogs/Hot Dog Buns
13. Hot Dogs: Baseball Fans' Convenience, Traveler's Salvation
14. Why Are There 10 Hot Dogs to a Pack But Only 8 Buns?
15. Hot Dog Fast Facts
16. LISTEN: IDK with MF DOOM, Westside Gunn, Jay Electronica - Red (Visualizer)

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Episode Transcript

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Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season one, nineties three,
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But Jen hass Well, Miles, We are thrilled to be

(01:31):
joined in our third seat by a brilliant and talented
writer and reporter who's currently exposing the shockingly blatant and
out in the open gangs of the l A Sheriff's
Department for not l A her in depth fifteen part
report A Tradition of Violence is basically mandatory reading for

(01:52):
anyone who cares about justice and civics and sociology in
America anywhere. Really. Welcome back to the show series, Cassa.
What's up? Thanks for ding me back? Hey, thanks for
coming back back. How are you thinking? What's new? What's

(02:13):
what's the how's how's the weather? How are you? What's
What's a good question to ask people these days? That
isn't how are you doing? The weather is hot? The
sheriff's are busy abusing people, and I am busy on
their tails. Yeah, okay, so things are things are moving
as they should be at the moment. It sounds like

(02:35):
pretty much. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we definitely ask you a
little bit more about what's going on since the piece
that you dropped with knock l A came out, because
I from my standpoint, I feel like it's a lot
has been happening um ever since, with especially with like
the increased awareness around the gangs in the Los Angeles
Sheriff's Department. And I love that hashtag too, or whenever

(02:56):
weople saying google l A s D Gangs, that's just
the thing we want to say to everybody listening to
the show, Google that L A s D gangs when
you have a second, which should be right now, Yeah,
go read the piece. Go read the piece. All right, Well, series,
we're gonna get to know you a little bit better,
catch up on all that in a little bit. First,
we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of things we're

(03:17):
talking about. In addition to the L A s D Gangs,
we're gonna talk about the revelation from the Pentagon that
some of the Haitian president's assassins were trained by US military.
They said a small number of the assassins, which was
still probably too many. So we're gonna talk about that

(03:37):
and talk about just the general atmosphere of mercenaries like
a world run by mercenaries that we're kind of looking
looking at in the future. Will talk about drones for
the home, another way that you can buy your way
into like military supremacy. Uh, hey, did you want to

(04:00):
crowdfund surveillance. Yeah, And we'll talk about hines trying to
even things up, to bring some some sanity to this
world by making it so that hot dog buns and
hot dogs come in the same number container or packaging. Oh, okay,
that's always something I think about. There's a few places

(04:23):
that the number of buns matches the number of francs
that you get, and when they do, it's always eight
francs to match the eight buns. It's never ten buns
to match the ten hot dogs. Five packs that eight
to get to forty and then you have a number
divisible by ten, and then you see and that's how

(04:44):
they get you. That's how they get you. And see
the matrix already all of that plenty more. But first series,
we like to ask our guests, what is something from
your search history. The last thing that I searched for
was l A County election filing. Very exciting l A
County Election FI. What is this in relation to specifically

(05:05):
what what races. Well, we do have the race for
sheriff coming up in June of two. We just had
a candidate announced last week by the name of Cecil Rambo.
Mr Rambo is alleged to be an associate of at
least three different deputy gangs. So I was checking in

(05:26):
to see what other gang affiliates of throwing their hat
into the race, right, Is it just Alex Llanueva? Is
it this Cecil Rambo not just a clever name? I
guess god given name? Yes, that really his name because
that is his name? Wow? Hell yeah? Is Villaneueva up?

(05:47):
Like is he not running? He is running? Yeah, he's
running for reelection. Cecil Rambo is like that dudes to
left wing let me get out here and uh really
reped the gangs. Cecil Rambo actually and his announcement video,
he said that he is one of the only people
that has stood up to deputy gangs, which is a
common refrain of people that are actually alleged to be

(06:11):
a part of the gangs themselves. How do they square
that when they're like, when you're like, um, it looks
like there's documentation to indicate you're involved. In the gang,
but you stood up to be like the one day
You're like, hey, let's not do too much gang stuff today.
So like, I don't what what what? What is sort
of the logic that they apply to be able to
sort of say something like that a lot, or it's

(06:32):
just merely an empty talking point. Um, It's something that
I want to dive more into. I'm planning to speak
with c. Soul in the coming days, so I'm really
interested to see, you know, how he sort of squares
the allegations that have flown around him for the past
ten plus years, as well as various lawsuits that have

(06:54):
been filed um with him being named as an associate.
It's a question that I have than I'm looking for
the answer to. M M yeah, yeah, good luck. I
wish you lucky in trying to get a clear answer
from someone who kind only mags to be very evasive
when asking answering a direct question like that, are there

(07:14):
any are there any like reform candidates at all possibly running?
I mean, how do you run for sheriff and even
make it far enough when your your platforms like, yeah,
I'm trying to actually make this better and not as
oppressive as possible. To my knowledge, at least five of
the candidates are from within the Sheriff's department themselves. Of

(07:37):
those five, three are associated with deputy gangs, and there
is one candidate that is outside the department. She is
a former Long Beach Police, school resources officer and parole employee.
She also ran for Board of Supervisors inteen for District one.

(08:00):
And the other guy, um, the sixth candidate. I really
can't find anything out about him, so I don't really
have too much to say on him. And if she
is anybody like going strong on the reform, like taking
your reporting seriously. So how do they even differentiate at
this point, like in terms of what their appeal would

(08:22):
be to an electorate? Potentially, It's like when when I'm
reading their platforms online, to be honest with you, it's
it's they're really not that different from each other. It's
a lot of political buzzwords, but as far as like
policies go, uh, there's not really a lot. You know,
Someone's like, I'm the one for more money for drones,

(08:44):
and someone's like I'm the one for more money for
armored vehicles, and that that's where we differ in how
we want to spend our increased budgets. And it looks
like mustaches might be another thing that maybe differentiating. I'm
the one with a mustache. Well, yes, I well Vienuev
is the only one without a mustache. So little controversial

(09:08):
are you? Even as sheriff Sir? You don't have a
pushbrew mustache like our boys, Cecil rambow here or even
Eli Vera. What is something you think is overrated? Gosh?
I think the Loki show is overrated. The whole Marvel
universe I think is overrated. I have not seen it.

(09:29):
I've I will. I don't know. I mean, were you
a big Marvel Universe fan and then you watched it? No? No,
I I got into the Marvel Universe and Lockdown, we
got Disney Plus and we've been watching Loki and people
are always talking about and I don't know. I just

(09:51):
don't get it, Like I'm not insuited at all. People
are so into these movies and this television show, and
I just I really don't get it. You know, I
started it, didn't finish it the same reason. I just
didn't get the appeal. It's just not something that I

(10:13):
just don't understand. Do you like it? I know. I
I famously have not watched any of them because I'm
like a just like a completionist. And and I've said
this before the show, like the tick at which these
films came out was too much for me to keep
up with, and so I was just like, no, I'm
not I can't do this. This is too many films
to like understand the other films. So a lot of

(10:35):
listeners have been like, just watch these six in this
order and it'll make sense. And I'm like, it's just
a huge time investment and it's too mud. It's it's
a little bit hard for me, but yeah, I get
it people. You know they're they're really caught up in them,
see you. I feel like they'd just be baking them
up as they go along. It's like, y'all, y'll have

(10:57):
twelve movies like two TV shows I gotta watch to
make it all makes sense, Like, oh man, wait to
the new shows Sandal, Oh my god, what do you
see the storylines about that? Just his foot where it's like,
are we we got all kinds of threads that we're
going down. But yeah, I like Spider Man into the
Spider Verse. I thought that was cool. Have you seen that, right,

(11:18):
I like that I haven't seen that, So that one,
I feel like I'm hearing a lot from the low
key reactions about like the multiverse and the idea that
like all the Marvel different movies are part of like
some multiverse that's going to intersect and like that that
movie interacts with that in an interesting way. I'm starting

(11:41):
to get excited about the Marvel cinematic universe just from four,
my three year old, because he's like now real into
like all these characters even though he's like never all
he's seen is like pictures of them, and so I'm
just like imagining when he can like finally watch the movies,
like how how much it's going to make his brain

(12:03):
melt and leak out of his years? Yeah, Or he's
gonna be jumping off ship. Yeah he's a super because yeah,
me watching like a few superhero things, I had a
bad habit of jumping off of ship thinking I wouldn't
get hurt, like when I was four, but I would
try and put enough couch cushions below me to not
shatter my ankles completely, like the you know the versions

(12:25):
that we had like when I was a kid and
into superheroes were like a Hulk TV show and uh
and Batman the sixties TV show, and like I was
just I was into it. That was good enough for me.
The greatest American hero, which was like a joke, but
I I took it seriously. What is uh something you

(12:46):
think is underrated? Seriously? Police violence, man, police violence is
hella underrated. Just now, while I'm talking to you, Um,
I see that the Los Angeles Police Department has potentially
killed some one. They have just shot someone down the
street from my house. And I'm watching the police cars
go and the helicopters overhead filming this, and yeah, really

(13:12):
harsh in my vibe. But yeah, police violence is really underrated,
Like this is horrible. Someone like I can't believe that
just happened just now, jeez, just outside your window. Yeah,
oh my god, it's okay. Uh, like that all just
transpired in like the last couple of minutes. Yeah, while
we were asking about the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Uh huh okay,

(13:35):
well that's that would be properly underrated, uh, considering the
harsh reality that's out there, you know, as you navigate
this whole sort of ecosystem of you know, police gangs
and like sort of the mechanisms that are set up
to like obscure their involvement or activity. What do you think,

(13:56):
you know, what's the perspective. I'm sure like when you
go to these sort of junk its or press conferences,
when you're like next to maybe like people from like
Fox eleven or like kt l A or the local news,
do they do you think they have a semblance or
understanding of what's at stake or do you think sometimes
they're sort of as part of the media apparatus, willing

(14:16):
to turn a blind eye to sort of keep the
relationships going for the sake of like their reporting. Oh yeah,
I know that's what they're doing. You know, in my experience,
the average you know, television reporter doesn't have a clue
about what's going on in the city and the realities
that people are facing. And yeah, I mean that is

(14:38):
the thing. There are a lot of stories that most
mainstream outlets won't do because they don't want to damage
their access to different agencies, whether that be law enforcement,
a city council member, the mayor. There are a lot
of questions that they just won't to ask your stories
that they won't do because it's going to rock the boat.

(14:59):
And that's you know, one of the reasons that I
published my series at Knock because this this wasn't a
story that a lot of with more name recognition, Um,
they just weren't interested in doing something like this, yeah,
and like this sort of I guess the way that
the relationship there works is what that they'll the police

(15:21):
will give them sort of tidbits of information that they
can then run with stories or um. The police don't
really they don't really give they give the information that
they want to give. It's just about will you be
will you be invited to the press conference? Will you
be called on in question and answers? Are you going
to get a call back on your story? Are they

(15:43):
going to do the bare minimum right? And then for
the in exchange, they'll just be like, and we'll obscure
your crimes and act up to us about everything. So
it's not even really it's not even like an understandable transaction,
like well then they did scoop on they got a
scoop on this thing. It's just are like, we won't
call on you, and that's it. And that's enough for

(16:03):
them to Because I mean, when you're at these things,
are you, as someone who has completely gone against the
grain in terms of how more mainstream reporting about this
stuff has been. Are you finding it that you'll never
get called on, that you have to sort of aggressively
find your opportunities to to ask a question, or how
does that work for you in terms of navigating this environment. Well,

(16:25):
the last press conference that I had tended in person,
I was almost arrested. I was detained for fifteen minutes
by a group of three shareff's deputies who refused to
let me back into the press conference until another member
of the scrum who I had been standing with, a
white guy, vouched for me, and then they were willing

(16:45):
to listen to what I was saying. So I I
don't attend in person anymore. When I do have to
go into the field to work, I have to bring
a bodyguard now, which it's really weird because I'm a reporter. Jesus,
I don't I think I should have a bodyguard. But
that's just sort of the reality of it. It's not

(17:06):
that I'm not allowed to ask questions, It's that I'm
physically prevented and potentially even you know, facing criminal prosecution
for trying to do my job, and what would they
allege you're doing that's criminal? Essentially. The person that was
also detained and later arrested was told he was trespassing.

(17:28):
But again, this is a press conference in a public
building where I had RSVPD and was in contact the organizers,
So it it doesn't make these allegation to then sort
of justify entertainment, but then later won't be an arrest
because that's just sort of foul. They'll not go fully

(17:49):
a foul of the law or whatever the law is, right, Yeah,
I mean and they Yeah, it just seems like I
don't even when we're talking about the local local news,
like just just having to interact with them on a
regular basis, you know, because they're like any time they

(18:11):
show up to a crime scene, they're gonna interact with
probably the same like handful of police like every once
in a while, and those are people who are legally
allowed to shoot you like this. They like that based
on your reporting, like that's all they need is the
flimsiest like explanation for for what went down, And like

(18:32):
it's just it's a very terrifying situation to be in
to like try and talk about the police openly in
in Los Angeles, are really in any community with the
militarized and like very you know, emboldened police police force. Yeah, Ship, Well,
amazing what you're doing and the bravery it takes and

(18:54):
couldn't be more thankful for what you do it for
this community and I think just the country in general,
because this is not just l A obviously. All right,
let's take a quick break and we'll come back and
talk a little bit more about l A s D
gangs and we're back. So, the last time you were

(19:24):
on we kind of you. I think it was the
day that your series of reports published a traditional violence.
But you know, we we were talking right before we
started recording about this most recent sort of use of
double speak where aut Villaineueva is now saying that there

(19:44):
there are clicks but not gangs, Like what is that
a concerted effort? Like how how they're talking about this?
Like how how are they like just dealing with the
fact that there behavior has been so overt and out
in the open and now somebody's just kind of laying
it out for people to see. Well, they don't really

(20:07):
acknowledge my reporting by name, but what they do say
is that people are selling the notion of gangs to
make a name for themselves or push an agenda. Vienueva
has said both that he is the first person to
do anything about deputy gangs, and yet deputy gangs don't exist,

(20:32):
and yet they exist in every police department, and that
they're nothing to fear, so, in short, a bunch of
uh nonsense, right, And is that like in for some
way to sort of acknowledge like, Okay, we can't we
can't say no that it's all nonsense, because it is.

(20:54):
There's real reporting about it. So the way they sort
of navigate that is just to try and redefine or
recontiret extualized, like what even a gang is Like they're
just friends at the station that have a hand symbol
and iconography like a gang. But it's just the loose
cohort of organized armed men who like I saw like

(21:17):
a picture that you posted about a patch that was
being sold that said like our gang is bigger than
yours or something like that. And I've also seen in
like some of the and and a lot of your
posts on social media and things like where you've you've
interacted with somebody who's clearly wearing like a pin that
is showing that they're affiliated and that in those symbol

(21:37):
and like in those instances, is that with Vienueva was
trying to say, It's like, yeah, that's just like a clique, right, Yeah,
it's just the symbol. It's just a fun thing for
our deputies, nothing to worry about, nothing to worry about.
Has has that like forced has that created more activity
like with these clicks or do you think on some

(21:59):
way of the sort of spotlight that is being put
on them through the History of Violence series is like
maybe are they being less over more covert or it's no,
just no offense. They don't give a can I say,
I'm sorry tradition of violence not history of on? Sorry?

(22:21):
They yeah, I mean they truly don't give a funk
what I report on. They're gonna keep doing what they're doing,
and I mean they're I believe their belief is that
no one is going to stop them. I mean, Vinueva
has defied subpoena after subpoena, He's gone after the county CEO,
he's gone after the Board of Supervisors twice. Now saying
that they need to be beaten. He said, very explicitly,

(22:44):
the board of supervisors needs to be taken to a
shed and beaten until they do their job as he
sees fit. He's gone after me, He's gone after journalist
by name at the Los Angeles Times. And he does
all of this. He he invaded the Venice boardwalk, which
is not his jurisdiction. He does all of this and
no one stops him. There is no one that is

(23:06):
saying you cannot do this, and here are the consequences.
That hasn't happened yet. So he's been able to transform
himself into probably the most powerful political person in Los
Angeles County just by the virtue of the fact that
the powers that do exist to check him have not
taken any action. Hm. Right, And the board of supervisors

(23:28):
are all women, right, correct, really tough guy attitude. So
he's saying a group of five women need to be
taken behind the shed and beaten until they do their job.
And that's the sheriff and he and I'll just say,
all the people that he's gone after in these press
conferences are our women. The reporters at the l A

(23:50):
Times that he's talking about, there are women. I am
a woman, the board of supervisors or women like he's
advocated for violence against women again and and again and again.
The county, the county ceo a woman, and you know,
no one there are no consequences to that. And I
know recently to like the county Democrats were calling for

(24:13):
him to resign, I mean outside of them, just sort
of saying like that's what we wish. Is there anything
sort of beyond that that could have any sort of
material or fact or It's just sort of more of
a show of sort of where they how they view
how he's handling his position. It's it's largely a gesture,
but it also implies that they will not be giving
him the endorsement. In twenties two, it's believed that Vienueva

(24:37):
was able to be victorious in the prior election because
he did have the co sign of the Democrats of
Los Angeles County as well as a number of local
Democratic clubs. He did a lot of campaigning with them,
spoke at a lot of their meetings, and a lot
of people have said that it was that action that

(24:58):
convinced them to vote for him. And I think without
um that wind in his sales. Let's go around his
numbers and the polls are going to be significantly down.
How many people vote in like it? I guess two
is not necessarily an off year election? But is it?
Like how popular an election is that? Is that one

(25:21):
where like just by getting a handful of like you know,
his supporters out he can win? Or do you are
you thinking that this is actually gonna I mean, I
guess the first question, which we already talked about, is
like what are the alternatives? But you know, having somebody,
I guess with entrenched power is probably not a good thing.

(25:41):
How important do you think it is to like have
him defeated and out of office? Well, I think that
he has shown time and time again that he is
not willing to comply with the law. And yeah, I
mean I personally speaking, I mean I won't be voting

(26:02):
for Viennueva. Yeah is there? I mean, And I know
how you said, like the for the people who have
the ability to sort of check his power, that they're not.
I mean what you know obviously based on your understanding
of the situation and the dynamics that play, like what
should be happening if, for example, like just to give

(26:24):
the people of l a County, the imagination on what
what could be done or should be done? Um, what
would you say? Those things are well, I mean, the
Board of Supervisors has an incredible amount of power here
in Los Angeles County. Their nickname is actually the Five Queens,
because you know, it's really the county functions because of

(26:47):
them and the work that they do. They hold an incredible,
incredible amount of power in this county. And I think,
you know, it would be very easy to open an
investigation into just the just the cases that are on
a list that the Board of Supervisors itself actually keeps.

(27:09):
That was the foundation of my series. You know, they
keep that list. You know, it would be very easy
to open an investigation into the deputies that are on
that list and to and into the gangs. That would
be a great first stuff. I think that hasn't been
done yet. And and like sort of the thing that
prevents that is I'd imagine some level of fear or

(27:33):
intimidation that is coming from law enforcement or that the
feeling that they wouldn't be protected or or you know,
I mean like what is sort of for them the
what makes that a situation they don't want to enter.
Aside from obviously rocking the boat, because I think most
people don't would rather just keep the status quo, at
least for people who are holding very high office these

(27:54):
days in this country. But is that sort of the
main force that's keep preventing those kinds of investigations is happening?
You know, I couldn't tell you. I think that that
could be part of it. Several several members of the
Board of Supervisors have sat on the board for a
number of years before this and none of this stuff

(28:16):
was done. So yeah, I mean, I think it could
be complacency to a certain extent. And you know, gosh,
I think government just moves like incredibly slowly like most
of the time, right, which is which is unfortunate because
it doesn't really have to right right. Yeah, So then yeah,
we need to be looking at people who are willing

(28:38):
to actually challenge the status quo and do that in
a way that is like in pursuit of was actually justice,
rather than maintaining office for as many years as possible. Right.
It feels like it's the same pattern at every level
when it comes to how like a lot of legislators
think for people who haven't read the series or didn't

(28:58):
listen to our first episod where we kind of covered
just sort of a summary of what the gangs are like.
So just you know, Vienueva called them clicks. So you
know how like you and your pals in high school
or like the mean girls in your high school all
got matching skeleton tattoos with Nazi helmets. When you know

(29:21):
you remember that, like how it because you earned them
after killing a civilian. Yeah, when you when you got
your three dots on your hand and your spider Web album. Right,
So that's that's the sort of clicks that we're talking
about here, that where they reward people with better hours
for killing as civilian. Yeah, series is anything else is

(29:45):
sort of updating or anything else you want to sort
of put on everyone's radar off things just to be
aware over to to be mindful of. I would just
say that everyone, you know, whether or not you live
in Los Angeles County, the Sheriff's department race is you know,
incredibly relevant. Los Angeles County is the largest sheriff's department
in the United States, and um, like other things we

(30:08):
do here in Los Angeles are our policies that come
down largely UM inform and dictate policies that could be
popping up in your backyard if you don't live here.
So I encourage everyone to, you know, UM, keep up
with the race on what's going on. UM, educate yourself
about the candidates. I myself and working on stories about
all of the candidates and gathering information on them for people.

(30:32):
So yeah, just stay tuned, and please stay informed and
get out and vote when it's time. Just go go
follow surist at Cerise castle c E r I s
E c I s t l E on Twitter and
follow all her reporting. It's important. It's fucking fascinating and

(30:53):
horrifying all at the same time. All right, let's talk
about Haiti. So the panic has revealed that some of
the murder squad I think the quote was a small
number of the assassins that killed the Haitian president and
attempted to kill his wife in their home were previously

(31:14):
trained rather US military. And this is not surprising. It
doesn't mean the US was involved in like planning this
particular assassination, but it does this particular assassination exactly. It
does reveal the people that do it. Maybe it's we
took a long game for d thing yeah, exactly, it does. Like,

(31:37):
I mean, this is a consequence of US policy that
the mainstream media doesn't like to acknowledge that. You know,
for decades, the US has been training killers in South
and Central America and around the world who they think
will help them destabilize a country where they need regime

(31:59):
chain or might need regime change, and yeah, just generally
like contributing chaos and violence and you know, danger into
the world. Well, it a great way to fight the
Cold War when communism was gaining any kind of traction
and central South America. It's like, okay, when then we

(32:22):
need to create a a place to show people the
skills of torture, interrogation, assassination, and we'll call it the
School of the America's doesn't that that sound nice? And
everyone can come to this school and we'll show you
how to do all the nasty things that we've been
perfecting over the last couple of decades. And then again

(32:43):
we talked about it previously in another episode, but they
eventually had to change their name to the Western Hemisphere
Institute of Security Cooperation because they need a bit of
a rebrand because everyone's like, isn't that the place where
y'all train assassins and like hit squads. And you know
when we talk, we talk aked about this and how
it relates to you know, immigration and then the flow

(33:03):
of people from places like Belize or Umnduras or Guatemalel Salvador,
and you can draw lines to people who went alumni
of the School of the Americas and the destabilization that
that's caused in the region and why people have to
flee these countries. But now it's just the Institute for
Security Cooperation, So nothing to see. Yeah, And I mean

(33:25):
this is most of the major wars of the past
twenty years have been at least partially fought on both
sides by like privately trained and organized groups who kill
people for a living. Like and the fact that that's
out there, these like private armies that are just available

(33:46):
to work for the highest bidder, it just creates, you know,
it suggests a future where the rich not only are
able to decide if they want to leave the plan it,
but also you know, can create their own political realities
just based on how much money they have and if

(34:08):
they're willing to hire the best chechens to knock over
whatever political system that they want to knock over, and
I don't know, it's it just feels like it's a
a very bleak future. Where like the the article about
the specifically says like and there's nothing illegal about it.

(34:28):
So it's like, well maybe maybe there should be guys,
maybe we love that refrain in this kind. Well it's
not illegal, show me the law. It's like, well, yeah,
it was set up so you could say this, you
fucking creep. That's why we need to address it. I
don't know. I'm not dodging my taxes. Is the way

(34:49):
the taxes are, so I'm not doing anything Like yeah, right,
we get that, but objectively this is fucked and we
have to change it. Wait, so like it's not what
is the law that they're not breaking exactly? Like you
can't hire a bunch of organized armed people to have
a Yeah, you know, the most important thing is corporations
and the rights of corporations. Uh, and so you know,

(35:12):
a corporation has to be able to hire you know,
retired Colombian commandos who and retirement ages like forty there,
So there you know, able to just create corporations where
the explicit function or at least implicit function, is to

(35:33):
have trained killers who can do your will, right right, Okay,
we're talking about yeah, just creating a mercenary company, mercenary LLC.
Yeah yeah, great, great, great, Yeah, that's fine. Just don't
have matching tattoos. Live below the poverty line. That's when
it ventures into illegal territory. If you're making under a
certain amount of money, that's when it becomes illegal. Quick, quick,

(35:57):
rorschach test. What do you see here? Do you see
an impoverished worker being exploited by a capitalist class or
do you see uh, fun guys in army suits doing
cool stuff against our enemies. It's like if if you're
fighting for the corporation, then it's okay. But again, it
seems like with this one, especially like in this instance,

(36:19):
this there was like there's a lot of connection to
people in the United States, aren't there, Like, wasn't there
someone who was bankrolling that, who was coming from the
the US? Yeah? Doctor from who? Yeah, doctor in Florida.
Of course, there's always the Florida connection, always a Florida doctor.
But they think that he maybe may have been the

(36:41):
sort of providing the plan and the impetus in the
first place, Like his plan was he was going to
insert himself as the president of Haiti, if if his
plan had succeeded and now he's currently in custody. But
I just like going back to just the broader implications
of this sort of thing, Like we just had the

(37:03):
January six insurrection that was you know, based on like
who decided to organize in a Facebook group based on
like sort of you know, half hearted like wink nudge
commands from the president who was still like being monitored.
But like imagine like if he had hired trained like

(37:27):
Chechens and Colombian mercenaries to do that, like what like
we would be in a whole lot of trouble um
And then instead it was just law enforcement and active
military who were undercover there right to come again. I
wonder if that was like a bad look for them,
and like a mercenary groups like and you see what
happens when you hire local, see what happens. That's why

(37:52):
you want to go with us. We don't give a fuck.
We don't give a funk. Honestly, these people there, they
were all do you see, and they were all they
thought they were on a field trip when they got
in there. We get right down to it. You want
to you want to overturn election. That's one of our
you know, that's the first bullet point in our in
our deck here. I mean there's a new quote like
what in the you know, steady stream of people who

(38:13):
were around Trump during the insurrection, like the trickle of
reporting that's coming out where he was like talking about
which military leaders like he thinks would be good at
a coup and which wouldn't be good at a coup.
Like that's yeah, that we were. We were very close,
like just a small amount of shamelessness and competence away

(38:35):
from that being an ongoing crisis. When you say which
military like within our military, yes, would you get So
it's like some weird like fascist slumber party game. If
I was going to do a coupe, this is a
direct quote. I was going to do a coupe. One
of the last people I would want to do it with,
General Mark Millie. Yeah. He added that the Chairman of

(38:58):
the Joint Chiefs had no cur your skills certainly not
the type of person I would be talking que with, right,
And that's that's the same Mark Millie, who are now
hearing he was saying, like, Yeah, I'm telling everyone, this
guy's acting like Hitler. It was very like out there.
It seems like this is also part of him trying
to just sort of get the narrative back about him too,

(39:19):
because he was serving for Trump. He's like, yeah, but
here's the thing. I called him Hitler, and I and
I knew the coup could have happened, and I was
gonna fucking stop that. So we can we can we
be nice? Can I get a book? Deal? Now? All right,
let's take a quick break and we'll be right back.

(39:46):
And we're back. And the privatization of like kind of
security forces on a on a very small scale is
being delivered to Americans via a new Ring product. M yeah, baby,
yeah they I don't know why this would make anyone
feel fucking good about anything, but like, you know, Ring

(40:08):
and the entire home security industry like is built on
like scaring the funk out of people and getting them
to buy into their version of reality where like every
neighborhood in America is filled with dangerous people, and like
the only way to protect yourself is to like have
constant surveillance and apps where people can like talk about

(40:29):
their neighbors and and you know, and and get off
some of the most racist takes you've ever seen. And
you know, like we talked about how like when Ring
was bought by Amazon, then they were putting out ads
for like looking for crime reporters to help like create
content for their ads again to keep this sort of
cruel and unusual world narrative going for all their users.

(40:51):
And as if having a ton of hackable cameras wasn't
enough to make you feel safe, Ring has announced this
new product which is the Ring Always Home Cam. It's
a fucking drone that will fly around your house so
you can check all the nooks and crannies when you're
out of the house. So I'll just read it like

(41:11):
it looks so like it like looks like Wally's Friend.
It's made to look so non aggressive, but it's a
miniature quad copter with a camera on it. And they say,
the Ring Always Home Camp is a drone camera that
you can program to follow preset flight paths throughout your home. Yeah,
you'll get the most out of it when paired with
a Ring Alarm subscription, since the drone is automatically triggered

(41:32):
to lift from its base to fly preset paths. In
the ad for it, it was basically some person leaving
their house and like setting their alarm, but then a
guy with a ski mask decided to open a window
and the alarm went off, and then the drones like
like to check, and this guy's checking his phone and
it looks like this like steady cam shot going through

(41:54):
your house and it arrives to the point of entry
where this guy with the sche mask is in and
the I sees and he's like, oh no, I didn't
know it was a little quad copter. I'm gonna go,
you know what, crime over and like leaves and it
follows him home and he decided to change his life
and go to college become an engineer for ring r UM,

(42:19):
And I it's weird that, like again, as if there
we don't have enough ways for you to put cameras
in your own home, Like I guess they're trying to
be like stationary cameras are for victims, but like for
those of us that embrace the surveillance state, you can
now invite it directly into your home, and the potential
for bad ship with this just seems infinite, Like the

(42:40):
idea that now you're gonna deploy security drones within your
home it's just like such a nightmare, such a situation
for me. But I just won't also point out that,
you know, Amazon and the police are using ring cameras
to basically privately crowdfund their own surveillance networks. And it's
a little think. Not many people were of this all

(43:01):
but two states, Montana and Wyoming. This is from the
Verge quote now have police or fire departments participating in
Amazon's Ring network, which lets law enforcement ask users for
footage from their ring security cameras to assist with investigations.
And they say now, figures from Rings show more than
nine departments joined the program in for a total of

(43:23):
over two thousand. And they're saying that even if you're
a person who if the police say, hey, we'd like
to obtain some of the footage from your ring camera,
some people who own the cameras don't even have the
ability to say no. They're just like Amazon will just
go around them and be like, yeah, okay, here it is.
So this is just a very there's like so many

(43:44):
layers to this that it just like there gets spooky
and spookier and spookier when you look at it. What
are the cops doing or not doing, rather that they
need like entire cities to be on ring camera, right
Like this really, I mean this is this is all
the ads that the defund the police movement really needs, right,
Like people still need to depend on like fucking cameras

(44:08):
flying around every inch of their home and that still
maybe doesn't even prevent the crime. Like what the hell
do we have the cops for? And then then we
go step for like and then the rain camera gets
super wolke. It's like, but what is crime is? It
is a sectrum of a of a society where there's
no social safety net and people are driven to such
desperation that their only financial recourse or to commit property crimes. Hi,

(44:31):
I'm Jeff Bezos and blah blah. But it's like like
I don't know where they Yeah, I feel like the
simple question is, wait, what what about police? If I
need super drone to shoot away a suspected burglary a
burglar from my home? Right, where are the cops watching

(44:51):
my ring footage? I guess? But the cool stuff when
it's aimed at someone's backyard and they got a pool,
It's like, Okay, that's not You're not enforcing anything. Have
you have you seen any of like the YouTube videos
of people putting guns on quad copters, because that's happening.

(45:11):
I saw. I mean, I I saw a terminator to judgment. Basically,
I have an idea of what that's like. But you're
saying people are now I mean just like home homespun
homespun killer drums. Yeah yeah, okay, well yeah, I mean
that that that goes along with that, like lego glocks
that that just came out. People like they're like just

(45:35):
just just a cool gun that they glued legos on
to like make the gun more children. Yeah, that's cool,
but can end to life. And because that's because we're
talking aesthetics. But I mean, when you think about, like
one of the big arguments for gun ownership in America
is like the fantasy of like that that iconic figure

(45:56):
of guy in ski mask breaking into house and getting
to shoot someone with impunity, and like I can just imagine,
like it doesn't feel like it's much of a much
of a leap to a world where this thing rises
out of the ground with a fucking handgun and attached
to it right and again, inherently like anything on that

(46:20):
Internet connected could be hackable. So who knows what other
eventual applications they have. I don't know if anyone. Again,
I don't know who this is for, but this seems
like a very specific person who's consumed a lot of
you know, Facebook posts and like neighbor app posts to
be like, yeah, yeah, I need this, I need this.

(46:40):
The only way to feel safe is drone. Just yeah.
They make it look they make this ship look cute
as hell, and the commercial like it's not some it's
not you know, indicating what our bleak future looks like.
It really was meant to look like a fun thing
that would make someone re consider committing a crime because

(47:01):
it saw you. Let's talk about some good news in
this crazy mixed up world. A corporation bringing two groups
together after at long last. You know, this has been
years of these groups butting heads, and Hines is here
to bring the hot dog people and the hot dog

(47:24):
bun people together. It's a I think it's a Seinfeld
joke maybe about like how you know hot dogs come
in ten packs, hot dog buttons coming eight, what's the
deal with that? Yeah, and that that Hines is trying
to broker a piece here, broker an accord between the two.

(47:46):
But don't they own the fucking aren't they all owned
by the same like three companies anyway, General Food, Ors
Craft or whatever. They fucking owned the bread and the
hot dog people. Is it really reaching across the aisle
or I guess in this romantic version it is. Yeah,
the I'm pretty sure they are all owned by like

(48:08):
one of two companies. So the reason that they're said
that they have different counts is hot dogs used to
be a thing that was sold by butchers, and butchers
tend to go with like the ten pack for all
things because that's just like what makes sense, like what's
the easiest count, And but then bakers go with eight

(48:32):
because bakers, I don't know, they don't they don't play
by Yeah. Yeah, so I mean but that but that's
not an even ten. Like bakers are loose cannons when
it comes to numbers. They'll just they'll throw thirteen roles
at you. They don't give a fuck, you know, like,
is different than your dozen? Fuck the meat bread balance,

(48:54):
here's another loaf? Go But is it because maybe because
eight because it's divisible by four and twelve is their god.
The dozen is the god of the of the baker. Yeah,
so it's basically I think the reason the dozen is
the god of the baker is the reason that they
have the eight, which is that they have trays, like

(49:14):
baking trays that are like built in fours, so you
always have like like multiples of four for all baking products.
Who's making the tens exactly? So that's what out further,
that's what HINS needs to be thinking about right here.
So are they going to Is this like a real thing?
Is this like a marketing thing? They're just trying to

(49:37):
They had a bad damnit, Jack, I was hoping for
substantive change. They had a bad because they and they
were like embroidered in accounting scandal that I know we
all followed closely. Their CEO had to resign in twenty nineteen.
Profits were already falling before the catch up shortage during
the pandemic, so they're like, uh, we're back. It's not

(50:00):
really like a growth product. It's not like people are
still finding out about catch up. So I don't know,
You're like, did you hear what they did? That's the
Oh they make the red stuff. Oh so it's the
So they're acting as so the condiment maker is acting

(50:20):
as the intermediary, neutral third party to create this accord.
I see, I see, I see, I see. That's why
I buy Nathan's. They come in eight and the buns
come in eight, right, but they match up? Yeah, because
I have a terrible I have a terrible I hate
when you got extra, but I just can't handle this ship.

(50:42):
It really bugs me again, along with me being a
completionist and not watching a lot of the m c
U films. I don't like getting a ten pack of
buns when I only have eight francs. Just did you
watch all the low Keys? Yeah? Any anything? Well? That
that I think towards the end is when they like
revealed the large m c U like crossover possibility. I

(51:06):
only know about this because Toby McGuire was trending and
my Google alert that tells me every time Toby what
McGuire's trending? Uh, hit me up and wait, not Toby McGuire.
What Who did Toby McGuire played Spider Man? Yeah? So
people are like, finally Toby McGuire is gonna like enter

(51:27):
into the m c U. Our dreams are answered. I
don't know. People, people are weird stands Yeah, oh yeah,
the McGuire us McGuire stands and uh, yeah, that that's so.
His name was trending, which always intrigued me, and that
that was the reason because like they opened the possibility

(51:48):
of like all the different Marvel movies being connected and
like some great crossover event, which I think excites. It's
really just a scheme to remake the remakes and remake
those That's what I'm saying. Yeah, I think you mispronounced art.
It's art. It's just like so funny that like and

(52:13):
do what they even need? That is it really going
to be like Elevator everything? And then it all crossed
the verse, like they covered the idea of a multiverse
and like everything that's interesting about that, and like the
idea that all the different comics and like drawn in
different styles are just like coming from different parts of
the multiverse like this. The only thing this adds is

(52:36):
like being like, whoa, it's the actor from that one? True?
Isn't that interesting to me? Well, if if you if
you like a bunch of loose associated and affiliated acts
coming together, you're gonna love the Wu Tang discography because
they got everything freak And if you want to go outside,
you can get to Brooklyn Zoo to kill the bees. Uh,

(52:58):
if you don't, but Donna sons a man. I mean,
there's so many ways the Wu Tang cinematic universe. Are
there any Cappadonna stands? Are there any people out there
who are like more Cappa Donna? Please? I don't know
if there are, let us know because you're a very
very unique consumer of hip hop. Well series, it's been

(53:19):
such a pleasure having you on t d Z again.
Where can people find you and follow you one more time? Yeah?
You can find me online at Ceris Castle, And if
you're so able, I'd love if you could head over
to the knock l a Patreon. While I do very
much consider this my job and my purpose, I don't

(53:40):
get paid for it, Oh my god, sad um. And
I also have to pay for all the public records
requests that I make myself. So if you can help
me foot that bill for justice, I'd appreciate it absolutely.
Is there a link to that on your socials? There is? Yes, Okay, cool,
and we'll make sure we will link to that in
the footnotes notes. Uh, is there a tweet or some

(54:02):
of the work of social media you've been enjoying four fos.
I'm gripping, Oh man, what's that? How do people look at?
What serious is referencing is a video where someone is
asking somebody just a very simple question, how do you
get out the hood? And it's two black people talking,

(54:25):
and then these people start arguing over Mike and like this,
like seven foot white guy in a polo shirt enters
the frame and the question is posed to him, in
which case he rightfully admits I wouldn't know how to
answer the question because I did not grow up in
the hood, but I'm down to go there, and then
starts spitting still tipping by Mike Jones with so much
gusto and energy it's it made me believe again. Miles,

(54:50):
where can people find you with the tweet you've been enjoyed?
You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles
of Gray. Also the other show four twenty Day Fiancee,
we were talking about Hainty Day Fiancee, you know, just
to keep it light. A couple of tweets that I like.
First one is uh, someone named as Slicky William said
snow Allegra is our shot day, and then at m

(55:11):
by Venus Quotute and that said shot day is our
shot day and the nailed on facts. Don't bring other
people into this. There's only one shot day and we
we salute her. Another one is Eric Blank at Underscore.
Eric Blank just has a picture of this sign that's
posted outside of a restaurant in New York. It says, quote,

(55:31):
it's like just like one of those just printed things
on a window in a restaurant says we need chef,
dish washer, bus boy come inside and only asked for
Chris always after two. I have never insulted anyone. You
should know me. Just please notice who is talking bad
about me? And Eric Blank tweets perhaps not the most
effective help wanted sign, oh so deep into that conversation

(55:57):
in his own head, I have never insulted anyone you
should know me. Just please notice who was talking bad
about Okay, Chris Chris Chris Chris uh tweet I've been
enjoying Brodie Gupta tweeted, don't call me honey and expect
it to soften the fact that you shrunk the kids.

(56:19):
You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O Brian.
You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist for
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link off to the information that we talked about in
today's episode, as well as a song we think you
might enjoy. Miles. What song are we suggesting people go

(56:41):
check out? We have the just wonderful honor of having
many talented people on this show. Past guest ailings Worth
from Detroit, Michigan, really talented musician and producer co produced
this track that just came out with I d K
featuring m F Doom, West Side Gun and Jay electro Anica.
The track is called Red and it's fantastic. It's it's wonderful.

(57:05):
Even if you don't like hip hop, I implore you
to check it out because the sampling on it is
really cool and the beat is very very forward thinking,
not not just your usual boom bap type of hip hop.
Um and it's a really dope track. And congrats sailings
work contributing to our sonic landscape with some really fire material.
So this is I d K with m F Doom,

(57:27):
West Side Gun, j Electronica, and it's called Red. Overduced
by Eiling's work. Alright, we'll go check that out. The
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