December 18, 2017 • 52 mins
In episode 50, Jack & Miles are joined by comedian Jacquis Neal to discuss Amtrak, the Atlanta airport, the CDC banned words list, an unidentified object spotted by naval pilots in 2004, Robert Mueller & the rumors of his potential firing, & more.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season eleven, Episode one
of Dust Daily Zight Guys for December eighteen, two thousand seventeen.
My name is Jack O'Brien a K. Jacko Brienne of Tarth,
and I am joined by my co host, Mr Miles Gray. Yes,
so I gonna do it a ka today. Just want
to shout out the Zeit Gang, Lighter Meter, food Monger set.
Y'all are fucked our lives. So many kind words and
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blessings and I see you'll out there keep the kind
words coming. It powers my ego. Thank you so much.
Maya ka was courtesy of Daniel H. Brooks and we
are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by
the hilarious jacquees Neil. Hey, uh we're We're thrilled to
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have you. Jackies is one of three hosts of the
upcoming Culture Kings podcast, which basically the first podcast that
we are spinning off from this comedy imprint of the
House Stuff Works podcast network, and we're super excited about
it too. Yeah, I'm preemptively claiming it's my favorite podcast. Yeah.
(01:05):
Just you're gonna love it if you like, just just wait,
just wait. Guys, were geting to listen to it for
a couple of weeks. Now it is awesome, and now
Jackie's here. You've heard pretty much all three people because
you guys know Edgar. Edgar has been on a bunch,
Carl was on last week, and now you got Triangle
has been completely You're about to get to know Jack
Keiths better because he's gonna tell you something from his
search history that is revealing about who he is as
(01:28):
a human being. Uh So, I for some reason this
popped in my head the Martin TV Show and I
wanted to see a clip from when he was old
and yelling at Pam saying where is mamush? And I
couldn't find it. And I Google searching it for about
an hour trying to look for this clip, and I'm
(01:50):
so disaplined. You couldn't find it. I couldn't find it,
not on YouTube, I couldn't like Google searching. I can't
even figure out which episode it. Do you remember? Do
you guys remember this? I mean I feel like I
remember flash forwards where they're aging for sure, because also,
like Martin always had different characters or looks. But yeah,
the old man version of him and Gina wait, is
(02:10):
it's him? Him? Is him and Pam because they had
Gina and Martin had just broken up, and so Martin
was thinking like oh, Pam was like your life is
going to be crap. And then he was like somebody
get the phone and like the phone wasn't ringing. He
was just like, where is my Get the Zight Gang
out there on it? Everybody out there is that gang?
Come through? Help comes find this clip please if you
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have it on if you have a box set of Martin.
Do they have that on DVD? Yet? They should? I'm all,
but it's one of the black channels. They just like
old black TV shows. Uh, it's on BT quite a bit.
Oh no, you can get the whole thing for all right? Alright?
Not doing it a definitely DVD, definitely. I don't think
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I want to see Martin and Blue Ray jackies. What's overrated? Uh?
I'm going to get some people coming at me now
A Star Wars over fucking yer with my mouth. And
I haven't seen this new Star Wars yet. And let
me just say Star Wars as a movie, there's some
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good movies, has some good storyline, some good moments, but
as this whole thing where people are like making theories
and uh, getting arguments with people, and no, Princess Lean
when she was born, she was born here and then
she grew up and she was a stroke. I'm like, man,
George Lucas just wrote a movie and you and fans
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have taken it and put it on the life of
his own. And he was like, well, so to you,
the thing that's overrated is the hype. It is the hype,
not the movie yourself, the hype the culture that's come
from it. I don't get it. So you're you don't
really fun with Star Wars at all. I don't like
I appreciated them as movies, Like a few of them
are like, oh yeah, this is actually a good movie, right,
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But the diving into like all this stuff that's not there,
just like all right, come on, well the expanded universe
is very un streaking. I'm gonta say I'm a huge
Star Wars fan, and we know it's fine. I mean,
like everyone's entitled to their opinion, and especially like after
this weekend, Jack and I both saw The Last Jedi
and we'll do a well, I think we're gonna do
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a special discussion on that later because we're not gonna
talk about it for anyone. Yeah, because we want to
get it. Not everyone's gonna watch the first week, So
get your ass out there and watch it, because pretty
soon we will be dropping something. Next week, We're gonna
drop something where we talk about it. Uh. I will
say it wasn't what I expected. I will not say
whether that's good or bad. Uh. And yeah, I'll also
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say that just based on you know, the thing that
everybody's talking about over the weekend is like, some people
hated it, a lot of people loved it. Um. I
feel like Star Wars has such a complex relationship for
a lot of the reasons You're talking about Jackies, uh,
two people and like who they are that it's like
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nobody has the same reaction. And it's not because they're
like wrong or right. It's just people are like so
personally related to Star Wars. Like I've talked to twenty
people about the last Jedi and we all had completely
different reactions for completely different reasons. And like I've heard
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people have arguments like the dough Boys one of my
favorite podcasts, they're always arguing about the Force Awakens and
Mike Mitchell, who's one of the hosts is convinced that
everybody else just likes the Force Awakens because they're trying
to like get on board with something or like for
some disingenuous reason. And I just think we all need
to accept that we all just have such a personal
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and like deep seated in our childhood relationship to Star
Wars that like our response is going to be completely different,
and it can also be totally off cthentic. It's just
not gonna be We're not watching the same movie essentially
when we see a Star because it's bigger than just film.
It's bigger than just a movie itself. Like it really
is ingrained in whatever it is, the culture of your
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friends or just how you like movies and things like that.
It's it's gone beyond that. So it's that's why you're
going to get so many different reviews because people relate
to it in so many different ways. Like I go
into films a certain set of expectations based on what
I as a fan, wish the films could be based on,
like my opinions of the early films. It's just too
complex that you can't go in and be like, oh,
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that was good, that was bad or whatever. It's so nuanced.
But yeah, it's like almost like it's like your parents, right,
Like you can't really you have a relationship with your parents.
You see them a certain way. Other people might see
them a different way because your relationship is different. It's
just it's hard to look at it, like watching home
movies and expecting like people to like them as much
as you or hate them as much as you. That's
it's just not gonna happen. Uh, I do agree. Fan
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theories can like ruin ship. At the same time, there
have been fan theories that, like the Harry Potter fan
theory that uh Neville long Bottom was secretly the chosen
and that Harry was just there as a distraction to
distract Baltimore from Nevill long Bottom was like the dopest
theory and like the coolest idea for the plot, and like,
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I'm convinced that J. K. Rowling was secretly going to
write that, and then the fan theory came out and
she was like, shit, that's so good, Like I can't,
I can't steal it. It's like and the same thing
happened with the Twilight Universe, Like the Twilight fans came
up with like a dope fan theory where like she
was secretly a werewolf and it like made all these
things that like didn't make sense in the movies start
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to make sense. And then the writer was like, no,
it's not that I agree fan theories are dangerous, but
I think it's because they're too good. They're like better
than what the writers can come up with, or like
they get to a good idea before the writer gets
to it, and then the writer can't use it, so
stop being so good at fan theories. Internet also shout
out to other people who were having straight up lightsaber
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fights in public this weekend. I saw like real fights,
well you know, like clearly just two guys who only
like once every couple of years can bring out their
light sticks and bang their plastic toys together in the
parking lot. But these guys were doing, like I saw
a clip on Twitter, full blown like choreography, like these
dud are like in the lab being like okay man
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when last Jedi comes out, like it's lit in the
parking lot, like these guys are doing spins and ship.
It was I just, you know, I just love the enthusiasm.
I let me, let me, let me just like all
of these that's about nerdy people playing swords. It's like,
I love enthusiasm, and I grew up in theater. I
love it. I'm a Disney fan. I'm wearing a Disney
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dope as jacket right now. I get it. I love that.
It's like, all right, you guys heard about the thing
where the AMC burbank. Yeah, the sound didn't come like
a national national emergency, and like people came out yelling
and cursing, and I'm like, yeah, I wouldn't have restarted
the movie either for you. Motherfucker's like, oh, they just
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turned the sound on suddenly They're like, well no, like
something happened. And then people ran out of the theater
screaming like you had one job. The sound that does
seem like viments of the internet. It is a big failure.
But it's just like if you guys would have just
came out like, hey, we just want to let you
know the movie. But see, that's what the thing is
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about Star Wars. It's not a movie. It's religion for something.
So could you imagine, you know, I could I imagine
if I went to church and yeah, preachers, microphone, you
had one job? Yeah, just flip out fight the preacher.
Uh So, what's something that's underrated? Uh, Christmas food in general.
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So here's what I mean by this, So Thanksgiving. I
love Thanksgiving, but Thanksgiving us one day. Once the calendar
turns and it hits December, You're going to so many
holiday parties where people get pot lugs and Christmas cookies
and candies. You're gonna have at least like the re
real Christmas meals. That's just as in depth as like
a Thanksgiving meal. So like, Christmas food in general is
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basically Thanksgiving for an entire month, and nobody talks about it.
Nobody brings it up saying like, yeah, this is great,
I love it. Give me some specifics. What's your favorite
Christmas holiday food? Uh? My favorite Christmas holiday food? Like
a good holiday ham? Yes, yes, I feel like you
get more of those picks and the blankets during the
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Christmas season. Uh so good. Uh. Like, there's this family
that I grew up with where they make these white
chocolate chip dream cookies only during Christmas season. It's basically
like a cookie with the shape of a dream catcher. No,
it's a shape of a cookie. Yeah, and it has
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like orange peels in it and like white chocolate chips,
so damn good. They tell orphans to imagine their best
dream and then tell them it's not happening, and they
cry and they use their tears. That's how you get
a little sweet and salt. Where do you guys fall
an eggnog? I like eggnog. I don't love it. My
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grandpa makes so well, So it's a tradition in my family.
Although I know it's it's a pretty it's a divisive issue.
It's so good, but it's it's so Also, I was
noticing on the Starbucks menu that like the eggnog latte
has three hundred more calories than like any other like
the pumpkin spice and stuff, just like eggnog is just
pure like egg yolk and cream and sugar. It's like,
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I don't know, it's like the peak of human decadence.
Uh yeah, I think it will go on, Like our
headstone as a species is like the thing that like, yo,
they inventioned eggnog. You're just mainlining this with alcohol, right, yeah?
That with alcohol? Um yeah, Christmas food is good. You
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also you had a second underrated I do what is it?
I mean, I know what it is? You know, I
had too. Yes, cruises. Oh, if you have not been
on a cruise, yes, you are missing out on some
of the best times of your life. I don't want
to hear this. So you just on the boat the water,
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shut up like it's amazing. You get free food. I
mean you pay for it. You don't have to pull
your wallet. I have to pull your wallet out. You
get to go different places like yeah, you know you're
only there for a day, but you get to experience
little slices of life. It's sample or place and you're
worried free right like you wake up. First of all,
I'm the biggest fan of breakfast buffets of any human
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being on the planet. You're like, I will fucking cry
in front of breakfast buffet and cruise ships every morning
it's Christmas because you go to the crazy breakfast buffet.
I went one on one cruise. They had you could do.
You could do a full blown like English breakfast, American breakfast.
They had like stuff like like when they say continental,
like different continents were represented. That you can get drunk
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and you're not paying. You just give them your card
and you don't have to drive anywhere, just walk back
to your room. And and and and like I don't
day drink often, but when and I've never felt like
extremely hungover on the cruise's im. It's just like this
is life is and you get to walk out on
the deck, like especially if I went on Alaskan cruise
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where you look out and you're seeing like beautiful nature
and then you can just chill with your martini. It's
like the fourth one before ten am and just looking
out there and you're arguing with people. It's just great.
You know. Also, super producer Nick just held up a
thing just to ran on our prey. It just said norovirus. Thanks. Yes, show.
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They're like big cess pit Petrie dishes. But look, make
it work for you, young people, I'm telling you. Think
it's the old people think go with all your friends.
It's like, all you're only paying like a set amount.
You're not gonna pay more, and you're gonna love it
because you'll all be together anyway, just the best I know.
Dan and Cody and Michael at cracked like at one
point went on like a cruise for people under like
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thirty or something, and they said it was like the
best time they've ever heard man. I go on ones
with people over eighty and everybody's so nice. Yeah, it
feels like all the world problems, like, you know, it's
crazy all he was. I went on one basically in
the lead up to the election last year. It was
right when the National Convention happened and Trump got the nomination,
and it was like it was interesting because they were like,
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I'm with my family were all very liberal, and then
we were seating next to like these people who were
like all about Trump, which is fine, but like even
then I heard the conversation. I overheard their conversation. I
was like, Okay, we're probably not ideologically a match. But
then they're just kind of like, hey, this cruise ship, huh,
and like looking at my black family, like okay, see,
like they're just they kept it on the cruise. They
didn't like, hey, how'd you get on here. It's like
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it pretty people. It brings people together. Yeah, all right,
we're gonna get in format. Guys. We're trying to take
a sample of the ideas that are out there changing
the world, trying to take the temperature of our global
shared consciousness as a species. Uh. The first thing we
like to do before you get to the news stories
is ask our guests. If there's a myth that the
national global shared consciousness, the zeitgeist has wrong, uh, like
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in our movies or just the things we generally believe
to speak truth right now, speak truth. Uh. Chicago wands
do not go around eating deep dish pizza as their
only piece of dish on a regular basis. Chicago pizza
is not deep dish pisa. It is a Chicago thing.
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But when you ask the Chicago and what Chicago pizza is,
it is the thin crust tavern style square pizza that
they cut up into squares and it has like a
different flavor to it than just like a regular big
slice of pizza, like if you get from New York.
But that's what we mean by Chicago. If we say
deep dish, we are talking specifically about deep dish. If
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we say Chicago pizza, we're talking about our thin crush version.
That's interesting. I read an article that Minnesota was trying
to claim that that like that's soda pizza, Minnesota pizza,
Solda pizza. But no, no, no, was the square cut
thin crusts. It can be, but not always. It can't
be soft pizza. I will debunk that because I was
(16:28):
a tour guy in Chicago for three years Chicago's history,
literally an ambassador and it was created in their tavern
in the Chicago Land area. Which makes sense because Andrew
zimmer And, who does bizarre foods, He's from Minnesota and
this food writer hit him up. I was like, hey,
what do you know about this? He goes, that's fucking bullshit. Yeah,
so he was being a Minnesota food guy. He was like, no, no, no,
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that's not a thing. But it was interesting because that
came up. Wait, so then, but if you say pizza
in Chicago, if you just say let's get pizza, that
means that pizza. Yes, It's not like let's go to
Luma nat. Deep is a specific thing. It's a specific thing. Yeah.
If that's like it, I love it. I have a
love hate relationship with Deep Dish pizza because I love
to eat pizza like in volume, but Deep Dish I
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cannot get more than three p like on my third piece,
I'm fucking horizontal. I think that is the human record
is three pieces of Deep Dish pizza hardly hurt unless
you are shrunk. Yeah right, yeah, yeah, in which case
you eat an entire piece of Well, I'm glad. I'm
glad we cleared that up because yeah, it's true. I
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think especially in l A. It's funny. I meet people
from Chicago and then I'm like, hey, have you had
a have you had massa out here? Which is like
our like the best version of deep Dish we have,
Like that's like the thing people always just think of
for food wise is deep Dish, and I know and
be like tavern style. Yeah, Chicago, Yeah deep If if
we're going out like a year, I'll probably go get
(17:52):
Deep Dish four times, right, five times? Maybe a year
in Chicago, That's not what we're eating for pizza meal.
I love it changing the game, changing the game, dropping off.
So let's get into stories, guys. Uh, first we have
there there was an Amtrak train that derailed outside of Seattle. Uh.
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We we still don't know what happened. Uh. There are
reports that it might have been caused by an object
on the track. And al Qaeda, I think in August
put out in their al Kaedo Weekly or whatever their
magazine is just instructions on how to derail trains in America.
(18:33):
I think they specifically we're focusing on the East Coast corridor.
But this seems like the sort of thing that they
were talking about. So again, we don't know the details, um,
but that's something that makes train travel seem much more
fragile and prone to accidents than you would expect. So
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you know, we'll we'll keep an eye on that. And
I mean the events of this morning and the weekend
sort of reminded us of how fragile infrastructure is in
this country. Of course, the derailment we're just talking about,
and then over the weekend there was a power outage
in Atlanta International Airport for a couple hours that caused
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huge uh sort of cascading uh you know, delays and
you know, things to just go all sorts of hay
wire across the world. But yeah, I mean we've been
talking about how we need to invest in infrastructure for
a long time. Trump laid out his vision for a
one trillion dollar infrastructure package back in May, but that
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did not happen, right, Yeah, so, uh but I'm sure
all those corporations who are getting a text rebate are
going to invest that in fixing our train tracks and
roads and power infrastructure. Uh so yeah, well we'll see
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how that story develops. But yeah, you know, thoughts are
with the people who are on that train and who
are on the highway that it drailed onto. UH. And
then just briefly wanted to talk about the c d
C who released a list of words that were not
to be used in any papers or you know, reports
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that they filed this year. And it's it's interesting the
sorts of words that you would think so offensive that
would they would need to use. Really, I thought they
were very offensive. They made mice when I read the words,
I'm like, good, let's do away with these. So on
the list, diversity, Oh I'm leaving fetus. Fuck No, transgender, vulnerable, vulnerabable,
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that's just a word because I'm a man. Yeah, exactly,
Vulnerability nowhere near here. Man, that's so like transparently insecure.
We will not talk about vulnerability the pound ways right now.
The craziest one science based and evidence based may not
be used. We're legit in the post truth era. And
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for science based and evidence based, uh, in addition to
a couple others, they gave examples of what you should
say instead. And for science based, they suggested CDC bass
it's recommendations on science in consideration with community standards and wishes.
You know why, because science is so true that they
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have to obscure that because it's almost like a trump card.
You're like, well, science based evidence shows because like you
can't argue with that. So now it's like let's make
it all weird. So it's like nebulous. Now let's make
it like it's an opinion. Well, what's crazy too, is
like when you think about like the kinds of ship
that the CDC works on, Like, for example, like, uh,
the National Center for HIV, AIDS, Viral Hepatitis STD and
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TB Prevention, they're working on ways to prevent HIV among
transgender people and reduce health disparities, so that's gonna complicate
their work. Uh. And also the CDC's work on birthday
effects caused by zekea virus includes research on fetuses. So,
I mean a lot of people are saying like this
is more of like a win for the evangelical community
because it completely like obscures this idea. Like they're apparently
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they're anti choice sites that have started pushing like a
theory that zeka doesn't even cause microcephali or other birth
effects because they don't want women to have abortions, it's
fucking wild. But apparently the CDC, the head of the
CDC came out and basically said didn't deny that these
like words were banned, but just sort of said like,
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look will always be like science will be the foundation
for all of our research. Blah blah blah. I mean
she she kind of came out and directly gave a
funk you two, like in the face of this memo,
she said, the CDC remains committed to our public health
mission as a science and evidence based institutions. Yeah, she
said it. She used the she used the bad words
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in her memo to her staff. I I don't like
all right, science, science based, evidence based, as fucked up
as that is, like that tracks. I can see how
some ignorant people was like, all right, don't say I
don't get how diversity tracks more vulnerable tracks Like that
means it would favor like the majority of the country,
(23:17):
which would be white, you know what I mean, Like, yeah,
you vulnerable communities typically are you know, marginalized troops vulnerable
you know, like in diversity would mean introducing other Yeah.
So I mean it feels like a c Jackie's if
you understood that there was a white genocide place, then
you might understand the situation we're in here. Your your
white genocide tattoo is healing really nice, must say, it's
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really the shading on that is beautiful. All Right, we're
gonna take quick break. We'll be right back. I have
to get this covered up a little bit more, and
we're back. So we're to talk about something that we've
generally steered clear of on the daily zeitgeist because it's controversial.
(24:07):
It is controversial, and it also kind of makes you
sound like a crazy person. What do you what do
you mean? Uh, we're talking, of course about science based No,
we're talking we're talking about UFOs. Uh there. Yeah, So
we're just gonna have to keep this playing. That's my
conspiracy theory music, and you're just gonna have to let
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it ride for this entire segment because, Uh so, there
was a New York Times article and a political article
over the weekend, uh that we're basically reporting on the
same thing. This dude who used to run a very
secretive branch of the Department of Defense due to the
(24:48):
Advanced Aviation Threat Identification Program, right, which, Yeah, that sounds
great that we're studying. We're studying Russian stealth bombers or
something like that. But no, they were, We're actually just
studying all these examples of you know, military aviation pilots
who were seeing things that just could not be explained
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by not just you know, our current technology, but just
our understanding of aerodynamics and like how things move through air. Uh.
They were just like that that shouldn't be possible. We
actually have audio from one of the transmissions. This is
a pilot just being sort of awe struck at this
(25:32):
thing he witnessed. They call it the tic tac because
it's shaped like a tic tac. Is like flying with
another pilot or something, you're tracking this object. So they're
flying and they just see this object that's the shape
of a tic tac. Like on the outside, you don't
see any like windows or anything. Just it's just a
smooth se It's just a looks like a giant tic
(25:56):
tac moving. Like when you look at the video, it's like, yeah,
that seems weird, but you can't quite appreciate how weird
it is because you know, you're it's being shot from
a also a moving plane. But then at a certain
point it just like turns and it's like, what the
funk was that? Like that that can't have existed in reality.
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But yeah, let's play let's play the audio real quick.
There's a whole fleet of a look on the oh
my god, oh going against the wind the win oh.
Like these are military people. They're like, look at that thing, dude.
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Well the first it's rotated. Yeah, it just starts rotating.
That's the that's the part where they where you go,
look at that thing again because it just starts rotating
in the middle of the air. When he's like, my god,
that you could tell that someone dealing with like trying
to process, like am I just I think we're straight
up looking at the UFO. Yeah, these are people who
like usually community kat and like Bravo niner, like you know,
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just like technical dargon because you're not supposed to say
ship like my god on the air like a fucking
like you're you know, a teenager or something. Um. So
this dude came out and it was like there's a
lot of ship like this. There's you know, one time
pilot saw something off the coast of San Diego. It
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was just hovering above the ocean, and the ocean seemed
to be boiling underneath it and uh, they couldn't explain
what it was. And these things just like flit off
like at a speed that seems impossible, and like you
can't say anything about it. Um, what's a while too,
Like when you think about why he came out like
with it too, because he felt like it was being marginalized,
(27:46):
like this research wasn't being taken seriously, but like by
the Department of Defense, right, and then when you have
that many pilots like seeing it, you know, I think
you're saying, like in the in the Daily this morning
on the podcast, was saying, like, you know, it's reasoning
like a tipping point with like eyewitnesses. Now hard to
just be like nine, I ain't nothing out there, right,
They can't. They can't just say no nobody, he's crazy.
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Don't worry about They gotta get the neutralizer out now
and nealizer. The thing he was saying is, you know,
if we were seeing Russian aircraft or you know, any
other nations aircraft doing the things these these aircraft are doing,
like just hovering over apparently they seemed to hang out
around nuclear facilities. Uh, if we were seeing enemy or
(28:31):
just foreign national like aircraft doing those things. It would
be all over the news. Everybody would be freaking out.
But because you know it's classified, and because I guess
they don't want people to freak out or something, uh,
you know, they have just been completely ignoring it. He
was like, you just hear crickets um. And it's interesting
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because so usually the thing that was really different about
this was usually the people who I hear to talk
about UFOs are people who wouldn't have any cause to
know any better than me. Like they're just like, oh,
you just don't know. Man. It's like, well, I lived
in the desert for four years and like this. So
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we've got this guy who headed up a branch of
the Department of Defense and obviously, like he wasn't just
recruited from coast to coast, am Like he's a he's
an actual you know, like military professional who Uh. By
the way, during his interview with The New York Times,
he like sat with his back to a wall to
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make sure nobody came in and was like looking over
his shoulder the whole time. Uh. But you also have
just all these pilots who apparently it's like sort of
an open secret in the aviation industry. So there's this
aviation billionaire who I guess because he's spoken to enough
pilots or maybe because of personal experiences, like, yeah, there's
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definitely aliens. They're definitely visiting us. And you know, again
a person who is more trustworthy than anyone you usually
see on the news talking about UFOs being out there,
and he convinced uh, former Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid
at the time he was the Senate Majority Leader to
you know, get this program started. And it ended up
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sort of fizzling out according to the Politico reporting. But
uh it it's pretty remarkable, and it seems like it
fizzled out more uh from want of you know, people
acknowledging what was going on more than from want of
like they're actually being evidence. Why is it that the
Navy pius always get to see the coolest ship? I
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feel like every like from even my earliest like times
reading conspiracy theory books, it's always someone like, you know,
these pilots something right. I guess because you're in the air.
You're in the air, so see you see I guess question,
But I guess in my thing was like why can't
I just be at North Hollywood rec Center shot in
the gym. So I mean, I like you both. So
the things that make sense to me about these like
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if I if I'm thinking from the aliens point of view,
which please sentence that I never thought any saying, uh,
you know, it's always people in super you know, fast
military aircraft or you know plane, so they're up above
where you know, it would be easier to see things
that were hiding from people on the surface of the planet. Um.
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You also hear a lot of sightings happening out in
the deserts, which again would be easier to get away
with because fewer people out there. So if you had
to do ship, you would want to do it there.
And then the other thing you you saw a lot
of UFO reports during World War two and so like
if you were monitoring a species from a distance, like
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that would be a flare up that you would want
to keep an eye on. Is like, oh, these people
might just market Yeah, they're just this might be it. Um,
And I just wonder like if it's World War two
and then now they're like interested in our nuclear facilities,
like yeah, I don't know, or they're just like do
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they know what They're just having that near where they live, right,
clearly we haven't learned our lessons. So you're saying you
think there are like aliens above the level where our
eyes can see, just watching us, or like yeah, they
have like really sophisticated monitoring. You know, the question I've
always heard that I still haven't heard a satisfactory answer
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for is, you know, we had all these reports of UFOs,
but now that every single person has a camera with
them at all times, like we haven't seen any perfect
evidence of a UFO. That seems weird to me. But
I mean if if these people are saying they're seeing
things like from planes and like aviation people are the
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only ones who notice it, then maybe like that's just
where they hang out, is like in the upper atmosphecause
that that the video from that sort of transmission we
heard from those those fighter jet pilots that definitely looks
like some weird shit like that's sort of oddly just
kind of floating through the sky like it just moves
how it wants to, which is and yeah, and I
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guess that really brings I mean, I it's crazy that
this comes out because I think most people believe if
you look at science enough that you know, how could
the Earth be the only planet that has life on it,
intelligent life on and considering that the universe is constant expanning,
there's like some however many sextillion stars observable that one
of those could be the son of another solar system.
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I mean, just to see that we're reaching a point
where like people are leaving the d O D to
talk about this, it it kind of makes my skin
crawl a little bit because I'm like, oh God, like
I knew I always wanted to hear this, but now
I'm like, it's getting close. We're beyond the point of
just me being like the cool dude who's really high
at the party, to be like, you know how many
stars are out there, you think we're the only ones.
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So I I don't understand why, like and in terms
of like media and like new is traveling fast, It's
a very small amount of time in our humanity. Uh
So I can only imagine when people were seeing before
like news traveled as fast as it, David, But I
don't understand why, Like, because I believe it too, we
can be the only life in this universe. Why are
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they hiding? I don't get why they're hiding. Like, if
you want something that will bring everybody together, white people,
black people, Americans, Russians, put some ship from out of
space on this plane and everybody, like, you know what,
we together, but their interests, their interests wouldn't be uniting us,
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Like they don't give a shit about they come up
off that water, right. I still like the star Trek
theory that they're just waiting for us to achieve a
sophisticated enough level where they're like, all right, they're ready. Okay,
so there's like twenty different pieces of us, like you
guys weren't ready before, but now you seem sophisticated enough
to they want to fight or yeah, or what a
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fair fight? Yeah? Yeah, they're just like now we don't
have to worry about these people. I mean this is
also like the one thing I feel like that is
a distraction enough for Trump that he could really legitimately
hide behind this. He's like, well, Russia probe my man,
we got aliens. Don't worry about alien Could you imagine
if this is when the aliens decided to come find us,
like come on, please know? Uh yeah, I mean I've
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always it's interesting because our existence as a species. When
you hear about people talk about it like scientists talk
about it in terms of the universe's lifespan. It's just
a blink. And so I've always had a hard time
wrapping my mind around the idea that, you know, our
blank would overlap with the blink of another species that
was like reaching up like high enough level that they
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could travel wherever they wanted. But I mean, our our
engineer Nick was pointing out that that assumes that their
species hasn't been around for you know, two million years
and figured out technology for sustain inning life. And you know,
so my theory is bullshit. I've I've always thought first
contact would happen with like us encountering like a a
(36:10):
record of a civilization that has died off or something
that but that used to live here, right that, No,
not that used to live here, that lived somewhere else,
and just like sent something out into verse. Yeah, yeah, exactly,
like a pompey of another species, because like, I don't know,
it's harder for a life form to survive than record
of a life form. But that's also assuming that you
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know that they're as prone to funk ups as we are.
Like if they're coming over to see World War two.
Maybe they're just like, why are they doing this? Are
like killing? Are we like the Real Housewives of the
Universe where people just watching the Yo, y'all want to
see a mess about to go to Earth watch? These
people not know how to act up their own planet.
It's crazy. You thought we have problems on wait to
(36:57):
go to Earth? Turn the channel millions? Atomic bomb? WHOA
Howard is crazy? So hopefully you guys don't think we're
crazy at this point. But go check out the New
York Times article, Go check out the political article. Uh
it's it's really compelling stuff, even if you don't believe
(37:18):
in it. I mean, especially like I I woke up
this morning not thinking that we had had contact with
an alien species, and now I'm at least less certain
of that fact. So it's probably worth checking out regardless
of what you believe. I could you imagine that this
is like just the most classified ship that like, because
they I refuse to believe that only our pilots are
(37:39):
seeing it, you know, like you know, like some like
a Russian fighter will be like, yo, shoot that ship down,
like let's see what's up like our other do other
countries have their versions of these programs too, where they're like,
don't tell anybody, like, we can't tell anybody, right, it's
and if they would, if they've reverse engineered it more
than us, like that, that's a question that I think.
(38:00):
You know, they mentioned the idea that we're trying to
reverse engineer some of that ship and it's just not
possible based on what we know, because because all ufl
stories are that we know are from people who live
here in the US. Right, Yeah, let's feel like that
it's all or at least, I mean, they're probably just
more in our consciousness because it's in our country. But
I'm sure to our international audience hit us with alien
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stories from whatever your country is, so we can start,
you know, cross referencing. I mean, there's that picture of
the Madonna from the Renaissance Italy where there's just like
a UFO in the background that I'm not gonna lie,
kind of looks like a tic tac you guys. Uh
wait what Yeah, there's a painting of uh not Madonna
from the eighties miles uh No painting of the Virgin Marriage,
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and then there's like a tiny little speck in the
back that when you zoom in, it looks like it
looks like, yeah, it's weird, like Celia or something just
flying through the air. Um, so that's that's one Italian
UFO sighting potentially. Uh okay, cool, So so check that out,
(39:12):
check that out, and uh, you know, get put your
tinflow hat on. Yeah, and get ready for let's let's
ride into this next break on our conspiracy theory music
and we'll be right back. And we're back now for
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some problems that are more clear and present. We have
so that this weekend was sort of boiling with rumors
that Trump was getting ready to fire Muller. I still
pronounced it as Mueller, Mueller whatever. However, the Mueller is
(40:03):
in the eye of the beholder. But so, where where
do these where did these theories come from? Miles? So
it looks like it's a very coordinated attack from like
some gop hack congressman uh and a lot of Fox
News personalities that are really trying to fucking push all
these kinds of things, whether it's the media wing of
(40:24):
the Trump exactly, or state run media Fox News or
your massive propaganda channel to point out that like one
of the things is like, oh, the Clinton four I
think there was like an attack ad going out on
Fox of like these like agents that worked on it,
who are talking spicy about Trump like in the election,
not during like this probe, trying to discredit a lot
of the investigation to basically like so the seeds and
(40:47):
build some kind of wave or sentiment that Mueller should
be fired and the probe and special counsel should be ended.
Um like especially this weekend. One of the biggest ones
was the idea of like all these emails from the
transition team that Mueller got ahold of and like suddenly,
like I guess the Trump team didn't know because like
during the questioning they brought up emails and they were
(41:08):
kind of like, oh, you all got those emails, and
now they're trying to be like you need to give
those back, like you got those illegally or whatever attorney
client privilege that keep calling attorney client privilege. It's like,
is that the only thing you know about the law
right exactly? Or even when it's like, oh, you know,
the biggest thing is that most people in the government
saying like this is part of public record, like you
there's no expectation that these are private. Be he got
(41:30):
all those uh emails with the permission of like all
the appropriate you know, parties involved, use the appropriate criminal
processes to get them. Uh. And then another person would
be like, oh, well, you know, there's like executive privilege
because there's a transition team. But it's like fam executive
privilege applies when you become the executive, not the transition
Barack Obama is the executive during that time. You all
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are just the transition team. So there's not even that
like they have a lot of real these arguments don't
really stack up. Yeah, and I mean Trump's lawyers have
been up to this point super confident. It's been the
one thing that I've been like, well, maybe there is
nothing there, because you know, Ty Cobb is sitting there
twiddling his weird mustache and just being like, you know,
there's there's nothing here. Sure we'll give you everything. The
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fact that that that they were like, oh you have
those emails, like, but um, we didn't mean everything. Yeah.
I mean I've heard this described by a media analyst
as sort of the Trump administration putting out weather balloons
to see like how people will respond to the idea
(42:35):
of him firing Mueller. Uh. And you know, that this
seemed like, you know, he's done that in the past,
when uh, I think ging Rich and a couple of
other stooges like came out and were like, yeah, we're
he should fire Muller. And it was just like a
little blip, like three different people who were Trump supporters
came out and like put that out there on Fox
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and then you didn't really hear about it some more
that m because it was like not taken seriously. And
now it was just like a barrage of that same thing,
and I feel like it's them once again just being
like is this okay? Are you guys gonna free because
and you know, look, we pointed this out a couple
of weeks ago, we said that the radic was getting spicy,
and now like again this weekend, it was full frontal
(43:19):
attack on this thing. Uh. And we we have a
clip of just some of like Think Progress put together
like a sort of montage of Fox News and GOP
lawmakers that are really trying to stoke the flames of
the fire Mueller movement. So we kind of picked some
of the better bits out of that. No one on
Muller team likes Trump. We already knew that. I don't
know if any experience in American history where you have
(43:41):
the skin abusive power that we're seeing right now. This
is disgusting, unaccountable, biased. Robert Mueller has assembled the most
partisan special counsel in history. It needs to be cleansed
of individuals who should not just be fired, who need
to be How would straight face can you say that
(44:05):
this group of Democrat partisans are unbiased and will give
President Trump affair shake. But the real investigation should be
into the highly corrupt and highly politic sized d O,
j FBI and even our intelligence community. It's a smoking
gun proof that Mueller's probe is a total political sham.
It's a witch hunt. It needs to be shut down
(44:25):
immediately if we believe in the rule of law and
our constitution. Okay, I've never heard so many like their
voices even sound like there's some lion races pieces of ship. Uh,
this is crazy. By taking out in handcuffs, she of
course means putting handcuffs and shot in the back of
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the head right right, summarily executed. I mean, look, Judge Pierro,
you know, just keep speeding on the highway, like you know,
don't stop. Stop commenting on the rule of who is
that again, Judge Janine Pierro the one who uh you
know she tried to prosecute Robert Durst back in the day,
but now it was like a TV judge. And then
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it's like now the biggest Trump writer ever like saying,
just like, I think he can I think he's just
d m. She's so far out there that she had
a November first meeting with Trump in the White House
and uh, she was talking about I think uranium one
or whatever, the Hillary Clinton conspiracy theory where she supposedly
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gave Russia control of part of the US uranium. That
was what she was purportedly going to talk about. And
then she's launched into stuff about Muller and Komy and
even Trump like after an hour was just like, just like,
can somebody get her out of here? Really? Yeah, she
she gets private conversations with the President like she's like
(45:52):
anybody from Fox News who he watches. I'm sure, but yeah,
it's it's wild to think that, you know, they want
to use this rule of law argument when this whole
investigation is going to boil down to like if the
rule of law will be respected in the country right,
because this is all about whether the president is higher
or above the law, which he is not. And by
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beginning to like meddle with this investigation that is time
after time like showing new things that at very least
are very troubling, like no matter how intense you want
to look at it. But the fact of the matter is,
like foreign country was fucking with our democracy. It's just
very scary because if he does dismantle this special counsel,
that step one of us like really kind of losing ourselves,
(46:34):
losing the country about he's banking on the fact that
we as people have as short of an intention span
right that he does uh like the fact like when
when the whole like uh with with the whole grab
him out a pussy thing came out and then like
recently he was like he's flowing the idea that well
maybe those tapes were altered. A year ago you were
(46:57):
like yes, at it, I'm sorry, and now a year
because he's just like, well maybe they forgot Well maybe
everyone is senile like me. Yeah, it's insane. So if
he fires Mueller Mula whatever his name is, uh Mula,
if he fires the fabulous Mula, Uh, he's banking on
the fact that they might be outraged for a couple
(47:20):
of weeks, but they'll get over it, kind of like
they got over it, comey because you know what you're
talking about? That no more? Yeah but that, but see
that led to this mess. So now he's got that.
That's the response. And then again luckily like he can't
fire him like illegally, right, Rod Rosenstein is the only
person who could technically fire him, So he would have
to fire Rod Rosens. Do you have to do a
(47:41):
Nixon style Saturday Night massacre? Ways like you're gonna fire Muller.
He'll be like, no, I'm gonna resign. And he's like,
all right, I'm promoting you. You're in the game, your
point guard, you're starting. Can you fire Mueller? And they're
like no, I'm gonna resign. And again, this happened with
Nixon when he tried to kill the Watergate ship and
it just ends up like you'll he'll eventually find some
hack be like yeah, hell yeah, does it mean I'm
like the new attorney general? Uh? Nixon tried to stop
(48:02):
the water Get investigation, and that's actually what got him
impeached was basically people be im like you know, that
just makes you so guilty. Um, And I do think that,
I mean, I have enough respect for the intelligence of
uh people who don't work at Fox News but who
are on the right that I think, even if you
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don't believe that there's anything there that for this investigation
to uncover, you still want to see it go to
its conclusion to prove that you don't you don't want
to question see it killed and make everybody think. I mean,
at the same time, if it does. See, it does
seem like the people who support Trump are mainly motivated
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by seeing him do anything that will enrage the left,
and this would be like the number one thing he
could do to enrage the left. So I don't know,
let's let's see. Uh. The one thing I heard over
the weekend that made me think he might not fire
him as somebody asked him, are you planning on firing Mueller?
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And he said no. And even though he isn't always
uh completely truthful, Uh, it does seem like the sort
of thing he wouldn't say if he was planning on it,
just because he hates to be wrong so much, like
you know, he would never be like, oh, I just uh,
you know, I guess I changed my mind like that,
(49:26):
that seems like too much for him to admit that
he had time. And I'm not gonna put anything past
this too, because it looks like it's getting hotter and hotter,
and like the rumors of Jared is up next to
get a little indictment. So what do you think would happen? Like,
what would there be riots? What do you how some riots?
I mean I think if he fired Mueller, if he
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fired Mueller, I mean there again this weekend, like everybody
was like, this is what we need to do because
this will trigger a constitutional crisis and we need to
go into the streets and make people loud, like know
that we were out here and we see what's going on,
which is true. I mean I would go out there
and be like, uh, we see what's happening. Um, I'm
not going to really speculate. I don't. I'd rather not
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live in a reality where I have to think about
him like completely acting like he's a dictator that's above
the law, because that would be more like troubling to
me than like whatever the fallout is. I'm like, oh wow,
like this dude, because like his favorite list of leaders
are like Ji jim Ping, uh urdwan and uh fucking
putin do tete like he like the posters on his
(50:29):
walls are not basketball players. There's like authoritarian Yeah, like
they're just dictators. So, I mean he wants unilateral power
like yeah, even in the beginning of his presidency he said,
And a lot of people probably forgot about this. He said,
you know, I'm exploring maybe I can pardon myself. Remember that. Yeah.
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Like so he he wants the complete power, unaccountable, unaccountable.
He's just looking at those other guys like, damn, y'all
get to just fucking tell everybody what to do in
your country? How do I do that here? Guys? How
do I do that here? It's a great white hope.
All right, this has been a blast Jackies having Yeah,
(51:12):
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Hello the Internet, and welcome to season eleven, Episode one
of Dust Daily Zight Guys for December eighteen, two thousand seventeen.
My name is Jack O'Brien a K. Jacko Brienne of Tarth,
and I am joined by my co host, Mr Miles Gray. Yes,
so I gonna do it a ka today. Just want
to shout out the Zeit Gang, Lighter Meter, food Monger set.
Y'all are fucked our lives. So many kind words and
(00:21):
blessings and I see you'll out there keep the kind
words coming. It powers my ego. Thank you so much.
Maya ka was courtesy of Daniel H. Brooks and we
are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by
the hilarious jacquees Neil. Hey, uh we're We're thrilled to
(00:43):
have you. Jackies is one of three hosts of the
upcoming Culture Kings podcast, which basically the first podcast that
we are spinning off from this comedy imprint of the
House Stuff Works podcast network, and we're super excited about
it too. Yeah, I'm preemptively claiming it's my favorite podcast. Yeah.
(01:05):
Just you're gonna love it if you like, just just wait,
just wait. Guys, were geting to listen to it for
a couple of weeks. Now it is awesome, and now
Jackie's here. You've heard pretty much all three people because
you guys know Edgar. Edgar has been on a bunch,
Carl was on last week, and now you got Triangle
has been completely You're about to get to know Jack
Keiths better because he's gonna tell you something from his
search history that is revealing about who he is as
(01:28):
a human being. Uh So, I for some reason this
popped in my head the Martin TV Show and I
wanted to see a clip from when he was old
and yelling at Pam saying where is mamush? And I
couldn't find it. And I Google searching it for about
an hour trying to look for this clip, and I'm
(01:50):
so disaplined. You couldn't find it. I couldn't find it,
not on YouTube, I couldn't like Google searching. I can't
even figure out which episode it. Do you remember? Do
you guys remember this? I mean I feel like I
remember flash forwards where they're aging for sure, because also,
like Martin always had different characters or looks. But yeah,
the old man version of him and Gina wait, is
(02:10):
it's him? Him? Is him and Pam because they had
Gina and Martin had just broken up, and so Martin
was thinking like oh, Pam was like your life is
going to be crap. And then he was like somebody
get the phone and like the phone wasn't ringing. He
was just like, where is my Get the Zight Gang
out there on it? Everybody out there is that gang?
Come through? Help comes find this clip please if you
(02:33):
have it on if you have a box set of Martin.
Do they have that on DVD? Yet? They should? I'm all,
but it's one of the black channels. They just like
old black TV shows. Uh, it's on BT quite a bit.
Oh no, you can get the whole thing for all right? Alright?
Not doing it a definitely DVD, definitely. I don't think
(02:54):
I want to see Martin and Blue Ray jackies. What's overrated? Uh?
I'm going to get some people coming at me now
A Star Wars over fucking yer with my mouth. And
I haven't seen this new Star Wars yet. And let
me just say Star Wars as a movie, there's some
(03:16):
good movies, has some good storyline, some good moments, but
as this whole thing where people are like making theories
and uh, getting arguments with people, and no, Princess Lean
when she was born, she was born here and then
she grew up and she was a stroke. I'm like, man,
George Lucas just wrote a movie and you and fans
(03:43):
have taken it and put it on the life of
his own. And he was like, well, so to you,
the thing that's overrated is the hype. It is the hype,
not the movie yourself, the hype the culture that's come
from it. I don't get it. So you're you don't
really fun with Star Wars at all. I don't like
I appreciated them as movies, Like a few of them
are like, oh yeah, this is actually a good movie, right,
(04:03):
But the diving into like all this stuff that's not there,
just like all right, come on, well the expanded universe
is very un streaking. I'm gonta say I'm a huge
Star Wars fan, and we know it's fine. I mean,
like everyone's entitled to their opinion, and especially like after
this weekend, Jack and I both saw The Last Jedi
and we'll do a well, I think we're gonna do
(04:23):
a special discussion on that later because we're not gonna
talk about it for anyone. Yeah, because we want to
get it. Not everyone's gonna watch the first week, So
get your ass out there and watch it, because pretty
soon we will be dropping something. Next week, We're gonna
drop something where we talk about it. Uh. I will
say it wasn't what I expected. I will not say
whether that's good or bad. Uh. And yeah, I'll also
(04:45):
say that just based on you know, the thing that
everybody's talking about over the weekend is like, some people
hated it, a lot of people loved it. Um. I
feel like Star Wars has such a complex relationship for
a lot of the reasons You're talking about Jackies, uh,
two people and like who they are that it's like
(05:06):
nobody has the same reaction. And it's not because they're
like wrong or right. It's just people are like so
personally related to Star Wars. Like I've talked to twenty
people about the last Jedi and we all had completely
different reactions for completely different reasons. And like I've heard
(05:27):
people have arguments like the dough Boys one of my
favorite podcasts, they're always arguing about the Force Awakens and
Mike Mitchell, who's one of the hosts is convinced that
everybody else just likes the Force Awakens because they're trying
to like get on board with something or like for
some disingenuous reason. And I just think we all need
to accept that we all just have such a personal
(05:51):
and like deep seated in our childhood relationship to Star
Wars that like our response is going to be completely different,
and it can also be totally off cthentic. It's just
not gonna be We're not watching the same movie essentially
when we see a Star because it's bigger than just film.
It's bigger than just a movie itself. Like it really
is ingrained in whatever it is, the culture of your
(06:11):
friends or just how you like movies and things like that.
It's it's gone beyond that. So it's that's why you're
going to get so many different reviews because people relate
to it in so many different ways. Like I go
into films a certain set of expectations based on what
I as a fan, wish the films could be based on,
like my opinions of the early films. It's just too
complex that you can't go in and be like, oh,
(06:32):
that was good, that was bad or whatever. It's so nuanced.
But yeah, it's like almost like it's like your parents, right,
Like you can't really you have a relationship with your parents.
You see them a certain way. Other people might see
them a different way because your relationship is different. It's
just it's hard to look at it, like watching home
movies and expecting like people to like them as much
as you or hate them as much as you. That's
it's just not gonna happen. Uh, I do agree. Fan
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theories can like ruin ship. At the same time, there
have been fan theories that, like the Harry Potter fan
theory that uh Neville long Bottom was secretly the chosen
and that Harry was just there as a distraction to
distract Baltimore from Nevill long Bottom was like the dopest
theory and like the coolest idea for the plot, and like,
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I'm convinced that J. K. Rowling was secretly going to
write that, and then the fan theory came out and
she was like, shit, that's so good, Like I can't,
I can't steal it. It's like and the same thing
happened with the Twilight Universe, Like the Twilight fans came
up with like a dope fan theory where like she
was secretly a werewolf and it like made all these
things that like didn't make sense in the movies start
(07:37):
to make sense. And then the writer was like, no,
it's not that I agree fan theories are dangerous, but
I think it's because they're too good. They're like better
than what the writers can come up with, or like
they get to a good idea before the writer gets
to it, and then the writer can't use it, so
stop being so good at fan theories. Internet also shout
out to other people who were having straight up lightsaber
(07:58):
fights in public this weekend. I saw like real fights,
well you know, like clearly just two guys who only
like once every couple of years can bring out their
light sticks and bang their plastic toys together in the
parking lot. But these guys were doing, like I saw
a clip on Twitter, full blown like choreography, like these
dud are like in the lab being like okay man
(08:18):
when last Jedi comes out, like it's lit in the
parking lot, like these guys are doing spins and ship.
It was I just, you know, I just love the enthusiasm.
I let me, let me, let me just like all
of these that's about nerdy people playing swords. It's like,
I love enthusiasm, and I grew up in theater. I
love it. I'm a Disney fan. I'm wearing a Disney
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dope as jacket right now. I get it. I love that.
It's like, all right, you guys heard about the thing
where the AMC burbank. Yeah, the sound didn't come like
a national national emergency, and like people came out yelling
and cursing, and I'm like, yeah, I wouldn't have restarted
the movie either for you. Motherfucker's like, oh, they just
(09:02):
turned the sound on suddenly They're like, well no, like
something happened. And then people ran out of the theater
screaming like you had one job. The sound that does
seem like viments of the internet. It is a big failure.
But it's just like if you guys would have just
came out like, hey, we just want to let you
know the movie. But see, that's what the thing is
(09:22):
about Star Wars. It's not a movie. It's religion for something.
So could you imagine, you know, I could I imagine
if I went to church and yeah, preachers, microphone, you
had one job? Yeah, just flip out fight the preacher.
Uh So, what's something that's underrated? Uh, Christmas food in general.
(09:44):
So here's what I mean by this, So Thanksgiving. I
love Thanksgiving, but Thanksgiving us one day. Once the calendar
turns and it hits December, You're going to so many
holiday parties where people get pot lugs and Christmas cookies
and candies. You're gonna have at least like the re
real Christmas meals. That's just as in depth as like
a Thanksgiving meal. So like, Christmas food in general is
(10:07):
basically Thanksgiving for an entire month, and nobody talks about it.
Nobody brings it up saying like, yeah, this is great,
I love it. Give me some specifics. What's your favorite
Christmas holiday food? Uh? My favorite Christmas holiday food? Like
a good holiday ham? Yes, yes, I feel like you
get more of those picks and the blankets during the
(10:30):
Christmas season. Uh so good. Uh. Like, there's this family
that I grew up with where they make these white
chocolate chip dream cookies only during Christmas season. It's basically
like a cookie with the shape of a dream catcher. No,
it's a shape of a cookie. Yeah, and it has
(10:55):
like orange peels in it and like white chocolate chips,
so damn good. They tell orphans to imagine their best
dream and then tell them it's not happening, and they
cry and they use their tears. That's how you get
a little sweet and salt. Where do you guys fall
an eggnog? I like eggnog. I don't love it. My
(11:18):
grandpa makes so well, So it's a tradition in my family.
Although I know it's it's a pretty it's a divisive issue.
It's so good, but it's it's so Also, I was
noticing on the Starbucks menu that like the eggnog latte
has three hundred more calories than like any other like
the pumpkin spice and stuff, just like eggnog is just
pure like egg yolk and cream and sugar. It's like,
(11:41):
I don't know, it's like the peak of human decadence.
Uh yeah, I think it will go on, Like our
headstone as a species is like the thing that like, yo,
they inventioned eggnog. You're just mainlining this with alcohol, right, yeah?
That with alcohol? Um yeah, Christmas food is good. You
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also you had a second underrated I do what is it?
I mean, I know what it is? You know, I
had too. Yes, cruises. Oh, if you have not been
on a cruise, yes, you are missing out on some
of the best times of your life. I don't want
to hear this. So you just on the boat the water,
(12:27):
shut up like it's amazing. You get free food. I
mean you pay for it. You don't have to pull
your wallet. I have to pull your wallet out. You
get to go different places like yeah, you know you're
only there for a day, but you get to experience
little slices of life. It's sample or place and you're
worried free right like you wake up. First of all,
I'm the biggest fan of breakfast buffets of any human
(12:49):
being on the planet. You're like, I will fucking cry
in front of breakfast buffet and cruise ships every morning
it's Christmas because you go to the crazy breakfast buffet.
I went one on one cruise. They had you could do.
You could do a full blown like English breakfast, American breakfast.
They had like stuff like like when they say continental,
like different continents were represented. That you can get drunk
(13:09):
and you're not paying. You just give them your card
and you don't have to drive anywhere, just walk back
to your room. And and and and like I don't
day drink often, but when and I've never felt like
extremely hungover on the cruise's im. It's just like this
is life is and you get to walk out on
the deck, like especially if I went on Alaskan cruise
(13:31):
where you look out and you're seeing like beautiful nature
and then you can just chill with your martini. It's
like the fourth one before ten am and just looking
out there and you're arguing with people. It's just great.
You know. Also, super producer Nick just held up a
thing just to ran on our prey. It just said norovirus. Thanks. Yes, show.
(13:52):
They're like big cess pit Petrie dishes. But look, make
it work for you, young people, I'm telling you. Think
it's the old people think go with all your friends.
It's like, all you're only paying like a set amount.
You're not gonna pay more, and you're gonna love it
because you'll all be together anyway, just the best I know.
Dan and Cody and Michael at cracked like at one
point went on like a cruise for people under like
(14:15):
thirty or something, and they said it was like the
best time they've ever heard man. I go on ones
with people over eighty and everybody's so nice. Yeah, it
feels like all the world problems, like, you know, it's
crazy all he was. I went on one basically in
the lead up to the election last year. It was
right when the National Convention happened and Trump got the nomination,
and it was like it was interesting because they were like,
(14:36):
I'm with my family were all very liberal, and then
we were seating next to like these people who were
like all about Trump, which is fine, but like even
then I heard the conversation. I overheard their conversation. I
was like, Okay, we're probably not ideologically a match. But
then they're just kind of like, hey, this cruise ship, huh,
and like looking at my black family, like okay, see,
like they're just they kept it on the cruise. They
didn't like, hey, how'd you get on here. It's like
(14:59):
it pretty people. It brings people together. Yeah, all right,
we're gonna get in format. Guys. We're trying to take
a sample of the ideas that are out there changing
the world, trying to take the temperature of our global
shared consciousness as a species. Uh. The first thing we
like to do before you get to the news stories
is ask our guests. If there's a myth that the
national global shared consciousness, the zeitgeist has wrong, uh, like
(15:23):
in our movies or just the things we generally believe
to speak truth right now, speak truth. Uh. Chicago wands
do not go around eating deep dish pizza as their
only piece of dish on a regular basis. Chicago pizza
is not deep dish pisa. It is a Chicago thing.
(15:45):
But when you ask the Chicago and what Chicago pizza is,
it is the thin crust tavern style square pizza that
they cut up into squares and it has like a
different flavor to it than just like a regular big
slice of pizza, like if you get from New York.
But that's what we mean by Chicago. If we say
deep dish, we are talking specifically about deep dish. If
(16:07):
we say Chicago pizza, we're talking about our thin crush version.
That's interesting. I read an article that Minnesota was trying
to claim that that like that's soda pizza, Minnesota pizza,
Solda pizza. But no, no, no, was the square cut
thin crusts. It can be, but not always. It can't
be soft pizza. I will debunk that because I was
(16:28):
a tour guy in Chicago for three years Chicago's history,
literally an ambassador and it was created in their tavern
in the Chicago Land area. Which makes sense because Andrew
zimmer And, who does bizarre foods, He's from Minnesota and
this food writer hit him up. I was like, hey,
what do you know about this? He goes, that's fucking bullshit. Yeah,
so he was being a Minnesota food guy. He was like, no, no, no,
(16:49):
that's not a thing. But it was interesting because that
came up. Wait, so then, but if you say pizza
in Chicago, if you just say let's get pizza, that
means that pizza. Yes, It's not like let's go to
Luma nat. Deep is a specific thing. It's a specific thing. Yeah.
If that's like it, I love it. I have a
love hate relationship with Deep Dish pizza because I love
to eat pizza like in volume, but Deep Dish I
(17:11):
cannot get more than three p like on my third piece,
I'm fucking horizontal. I think that is the human record
is three pieces of Deep Dish pizza hardly hurt unless
you are shrunk. Yeah right, yeah, yeah, in which case
you eat an entire piece of Well, I'm glad. I'm
glad we cleared that up because yeah, it's true. I
(17:32):
think especially in l A. It's funny. I meet people
from Chicago and then I'm like, hey, have you had
a have you had massa out here? Which is like
our like the best version of deep Dish we have,
Like that's like the thing people always just think of
for food wise is deep Dish, and I know and
be like tavern style. Yeah, Chicago, Yeah deep If if
we're going out like a year, I'll probably go get
(17:52):
Deep Dish four times, right, five times? Maybe a year
in Chicago, That's not what we're eating for pizza meal.
I love it changing the game, changing the game, dropping off.
So let's get into stories, guys. Uh, first we have
there there was an Amtrak train that derailed outside of Seattle. Uh.
(18:12):
We we still don't know what happened. Uh. There are
reports that it might have been caused by an object
on the track. And al Qaeda, I think in August
put out in their al Kaedo Weekly or whatever their
magazine is just instructions on how to derail trains in America.
(18:33):
I think they specifically we're focusing on the East Coast corridor.
But this seems like the sort of thing that they
were talking about. So again, we don't know the details, um,
but that's something that makes train travel seem much more
fragile and prone to accidents than you would expect. So
(18:54):
you know, we'll we'll keep an eye on that. And
I mean the events of this morning and the weekend
sort of reminded us of how fragile infrastructure is in
this country. Of course, the derailment we're just talking about,
and then over the weekend there was a power outage
in Atlanta International Airport for a couple hours that caused
(19:17):
huge uh sort of cascading uh you know, delays and
you know, things to just go all sorts of hay
wire across the world. But yeah, I mean we've been
talking about how we need to invest in infrastructure for
a long time. Trump laid out his vision for a
one trillion dollar infrastructure package back in May, but that
(19:40):
did not happen, right, Yeah, so, uh but I'm sure
all those corporations who are getting a text rebate are
going to invest that in fixing our train tracks and
roads and power infrastructure. Uh so yeah, well we'll see
(20:00):
how that story develops. But yeah, you know, thoughts are
with the people who are on that train and who
are on the highway that it drailed onto. UH. And
then just briefly wanted to talk about the c d
C who released a list of words that were not
to be used in any papers or you know, reports
(20:23):
that they filed this year. And it's it's interesting the
sorts of words that you would think so offensive that
would they would need to use. Really, I thought they
were very offensive. They made mice when I read the words,
I'm like, good, let's do away with these. So on
the list, diversity, Oh I'm leaving fetus. Fuck No, transgender, vulnerable, vulnerabable,
(20:47):
that's just a word because I'm a man. Yeah, exactly,
Vulnerability nowhere near here. Man, that's so like transparently insecure.
We will not talk about vulnerability the pound ways right now.
The craziest one science based and evidence based may not
be used. We're legit in the post truth era. And
(21:07):
for science based and evidence based, uh, in addition to
a couple others, they gave examples of what you should
say instead. And for science based, they suggested CDC bass
it's recommendations on science in consideration with community standards and wishes.
You know why, because science is so true that they
(21:28):
have to obscure that because it's almost like a trump card.
You're like, well, science based evidence shows because like you
can't argue with that. So now it's like let's make
it all weird. So it's like nebulous. Now let's make
it like it's an opinion. Well, what's crazy too, is
like when you think about like the kinds of ship
that the CDC works on, Like, for example, like, uh,
the National Center for HIV, AIDS, Viral Hepatitis STD and
(21:49):
TB Prevention, they're working on ways to prevent HIV among
transgender people and reduce health disparities, so that's gonna complicate
their work. Uh. And also the CDC's work on birthday
effects caused by zekea virus includes research on fetuses. So,
I mean a lot of people are saying like this
is more of like a win for the evangelical community
because it completely like obscures this idea. Like they're apparently
(22:13):
they're anti choice sites that have started pushing like a
theory that zeka doesn't even cause microcephali or other birth
effects because they don't want women to have abortions, it's
fucking wild. But apparently the CDC, the head of the
CDC came out and basically said didn't deny that these
like words were banned, but just sort of said like,
(22:35):
look will always be like science will be the foundation
for all of our research. Blah blah blah. I mean
she she kind of came out and directly gave a
funk you two, like in the face of this memo,
she said, the CDC remains committed to our public health
mission as a science and evidence based institutions. Yeah, she
said it. She used the she used the bad words
(22:56):
in her memo to her staff. I I don't like
all right, science, science based, evidence based, as fucked up
as that is, like that tracks. I can see how
some ignorant people was like, all right, don't say I
don't get how diversity tracks more vulnerable tracks Like that
means it would favor like the majority of the country,
(23:17):
which would be white, you know what I mean, Like, yeah,
you vulnerable communities typically are you know, marginalized troops vulnerable
you know, like in diversity would mean introducing other Yeah.
So I mean it feels like a c Jackie's if
you understood that there was a white genocide place, then
you might understand the situation we're in here. Your your
white genocide tattoo is healing really nice, must say, it's
(23:41):
really the shading on that is beautiful. All Right, we're
gonna take quick break. We'll be right back. I have
to get this covered up a little bit more, and
we're back. So we're to talk about something that we've
generally steered clear of on the daily zeitgeist because it's controversial.
(24:07):
It is controversial, and it also kind of makes you
sound like a crazy person. What do you what do
you mean? Uh, we're talking, of course about science based No,
we're talking we're talking about UFOs. Uh there. Yeah, So
we're just gonna have to keep this playing. That's my
conspiracy theory music, and you're just gonna have to let
(24:28):
it ride for this entire segment because, Uh so, there
was a New York Times article and a political article
over the weekend, uh that we're basically reporting on the
same thing. This dude who used to run a very
secretive branch of the Department of Defense due to the
(24:48):
Advanced Aviation Threat Identification Program, right, which, Yeah, that sounds
great that we're studying. We're studying Russian stealth bombers or
something like that. But no, they were, We're actually just
studying all these examples of you know, military aviation pilots
who were seeing things that just could not be explained
(25:11):
by not just you know, our current technology, but just
our understanding of aerodynamics and like how things move through air. Uh.
They were just like that that shouldn't be possible. We
actually have audio from one of the transmissions. This is
a pilot just being sort of awe struck at this
(25:32):
thing he witnessed. They call it the tic tac because
it's shaped like a tic tac. Is like flying with
another pilot or something, you're tracking this object. So they're
flying and they just see this object that's the shape
of a tic tac. Like on the outside, you don't
see any like windows or anything. Just it's just a
smooth se It's just a looks like a giant tic
(25:56):
tac moving. Like when you look at the video, it's like, yeah,
that seems weird, but you can't quite appreciate how weird
it is because you know, you're it's being shot from
a also a moving plane. But then at a certain
point it just like turns and it's like, what the
funk was that? Like that that can't have existed in reality.
(26:17):
But yeah, let's play let's play the audio real quick.
There's a whole fleet of a look on the oh
my god, oh going against the wind the win oh.
Like these are military people. They're like, look at that thing, dude.
(26:39):
Well the first it's rotated. Yeah, it just starts rotating.
That's the that's the part where they where you go,
look at that thing again because it just starts rotating
in the middle of the air. When he's like, my god,
that you could tell that someone dealing with like trying
to process, like am I just I think we're straight
up looking at the UFO. Yeah, these are people who
like usually community kat and like Bravo niner, like you know,
(27:03):
just like technical dargon because you're not supposed to say
ship like my god on the air like a fucking
like you're you know, a teenager or something. Um. So
this dude came out and it was like there's a
lot of ship like this. There's you know, one time
pilot saw something off the coast of San Diego. It
(27:23):
was just hovering above the ocean, and the ocean seemed
to be boiling underneath it and uh, they couldn't explain
what it was. And these things just like flit off
like at a speed that seems impossible, and like you
can't say anything about it. Um, what's a while too,
Like when you think about why he came out like
with it too, because he felt like it was being marginalized,
(27:46):
like this research wasn't being taken seriously, but like by
the Department of Defense, right, and then when you have
that many pilots like seeing it, you know, I think
you're saying, like in the in the Daily this morning
on the podcast, was saying, like, you know, it's reasoning
like a tipping point with like eyewitnesses. Now hard to
just be like nine, I ain't nothing out there, right,
They can't. They can't just say no nobody, he's crazy.
(28:06):
Don't worry about They gotta get the neutralizer out now
and nealizer. The thing he was saying is, you know,
if we were seeing Russian aircraft or you know, any
other nations aircraft doing the things these these aircraft are doing,
like just hovering over apparently they seemed to hang out
around nuclear facilities. Uh, if we were seeing enemy or
(28:31):
just foreign national like aircraft doing those things. It would
be all over the news. Everybody would be freaking out.
But because you know it's classified, and because I guess
they don't want people to freak out or something, uh,
you know, they have just been completely ignoring it. He
was like, you just hear crickets um. And it's interesting
(28:52):
because so usually the thing that was really different about
this was usually the people who I hear to talk
about UFOs are people who wouldn't have any cause to
know any better than me. Like they're just like, oh,
you just don't know. Man. It's like, well, I lived
in the desert for four years and like this. So
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we've got this guy who headed up a branch of
the Department of Defense and obviously, like he wasn't just
recruited from coast to coast, am Like he's a he's
an actual you know, like military professional who Uh. By
the way, during his interview with The New York Times,
he like sat with his back to a wall to
(29:36):
make sure nobody came in and was like looking over
his shoulder the whole time. Uh. But you also have
just all these pilots who apparently it's like sort of
an open secret in the aviation industry. So there's this
aviation billionaire who I guess because he's spoken to enough
pilots or maybe because of personal experiences, like, yeah, there's
(29:56):
definitely aliens. They're definitely visiting us. And you know, again
a person who is more trustworthy than anyone you usually
see on the news talking about UFOs being out there,
and he convinced uh, former Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid
at the time he was the Senate Majority Leader to
you know, get this program started. And it ended up
(30:18):
sort of fizzling out according to the Politico reporting. But
uh it it's pretty remarkable, and it seems like it
fizzled out more uh from want of you know, people
acknowledging what was going on more than from want of
like they're actually being evidence. Why is it that the
Navy pius always get to see the coolest ship? I
(30:41):
feel like every like from even my earliest like times
reading conspiracy theory books, it's always someone like, you know,
these pilots something right. I guess because you're in the air.
You're in the air, so see you see I guess question,
But I guess in my thing was like why can't
I just be at North Hollywood rec Center shot in
the gym. So I mean, I like you both. So
the things that make sense to me about these like
(31:03):
if I if I'm thinking from the aliens point of view,
which please sentence that I never thought any saying, uh,
you know, it's always people in super you know, fast
military aircraft or you know plane, so they're up above
where you know, it would be easier to see things
that were hiding from people on the surface of the planet. Um.
(31:26):
You also hear a lot of sightings happening out in
the deserts, which again would be easier to get away
with because fewer people out there. So if you had
to do ship, you would want to do it there.
And then the other thing you you saw a lot
of UFO reports during World War two and so like
if you were monitoring a species from a distance, like
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that would be a flare up that you would want
to keep an eye on. Is like, oh, these people
might just market Yeah, they're just this might be it. Um,
And I just wonder like if it's World War two
and then now they're like interested in our nuclear facilities,
like yeah, I don't know, or they're just like do
(32:10):
they know what They're just having that near where they live, right,
clearly we haven't learned our lessons. So you're saying you
think there are like aliens above the level where our
eyes can see, just watching us, or like yeah, they
have like really sophisticated monitoring. You know, the question I've
always heard that I still haven't heard a satisfactory answer
(32:31):
for is, you know, we had all these reports of UFOs,
but now that every single person has a camera with
them at all times, like we haven't seen any perfect
evidence of a UFO. That seems weird to me. But
I mean if if these people are saying they're seeing
things like from planes and like aviation people are the
(32:52):
only ones who notice it, then maybe like that's just
where they hang out, is like in the upper atmosphecause
that that the video from that sort of transmission we
heard from those those fighter jet pilots that definitely looks
like some weird shit like that's sort of oddly just
kind of floating through the sky like it just moves
how it wants to, which is and yeah, and I
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guess that really brings I mean, I it's crazy that
this comes out because I think most people believe if
you look at science enough that you know, how could
the Earth be the only planet that has life on it,
intelligent life on and considering that the universe is constant expanning,
there's like some however many sextillion stars observable that one
of those could be the son of another solar system.
(33:34):
I mean, just to see that we're reaching a point
where like people are leaving the d O D to
talk about this, it it kind of makes my skin
crawl a little bit because I'm like, oh God, like
I knew I always wanted to hear this, but now
I'm like, it's getting close. We're beyond the point of
just me being like the cool dude who's really high
at the party, to be like, you know how many
stars are out there, you think we're the only ones.
(33:54):
So I I don't understand why, like and in terms
of like media and like new is traveling fast, It's
a very small amount of time in our humanity. Uh
So I can only imagine when people were seeing before
like news traveled as fast as it, David, But I
don't understand why, Like, because I believe it too, we
can be the only life in this universe. Why are
(34:18):
they hiding? I don't get why they're hiding. Like, if
you want something that will bring everybody together, white people,
black people, Americans, Russians, put some ship from out of
space on this plane and everybody, like, you know what,
we together, but their interests, their interests wouldn't be uniting us,
(34:38):
Like they don't give a shit about they come up
off that water, right. I still like the star Trek
theory that they're just waiting for us to achieve a
sophisticated enough level where they're like, all right, they're ready. Okay,
so there's like twenty different pieces of us, like you
guys weren't ready before, but now you seem sophisticated enough
to they want to fight or yeah, or what a
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fair fight? Yeah? Yeah, they're just like now we don't
have to worry about these people. I mean this is
also like the one thing I feel like that is
a distraction enough for Trump that he could really legitimately
hide behind this. He's like, well, Russia probe my man,
we got aliens. Don't worry about alien Could you imagine
if this is when the aliens decided to come find us,
like come on, please know? Uh yeah, I mean I've
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always it's interesting because our existence as a species. When
you hear about people talk about it like scientists talk
about it in terms of the universe's lifespan. It's just
a blink. And so I've always had a hard time
wrapping my mind around the idea that, you know, our
blank would overlap with the blink of another species that
was like reaching up like high enough level that they
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could travel wherever they wanted. But I mean, our our
engineer Nick was pointing out that that assumes that their
species hasn't been around for you know, two million years
and figured out technology for sustain inning life. And you know,
so my theory is bullshit. I've I've always thought first
contact would happen with like us encountering like a a
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record of a civilization that has died off or something
that but that used to live here, right that, No,
not that used to live here, that lived somewhere else,
and just like sent something out into verse. Yeah, yeah, exactly,
like a pompey of another species, because like, I don't know,
it's harder for a life form to survive than record
of a life form. But that's also assuming that you
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know that they're as prone to funk ups as we are.
Like if they're coming over to see World War two.
Maybe they're just like, why are they doing this? Are
like killing? Are we like the Real Housewives of the
Universe where people just watching the Yo, y'all want to
see a mess about to go to Earth watch? These
people not know how to act up their own planet.
It's crazy. You thought we have problems on wait to
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go to Earth? Turn the channel millions? Atomic bomb? WHOA
Howard is crazy? So hopefully you guys don't think we're
crazy at this point. But go check out the New
York Times article, Go check out the political article. Uh
it's it's really compelling stuff, even if you don't believe
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in it. I mean, especially like I I woke up
this morning not thinking that we had had contact with
an alien species, and now I'm at least less certain
of that fact. So it's probably worth checking out regardless
of what you believe. I could you imagine that this
is like just the most classified ship that like, because
they I refuse to believe that only our pilots are
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seeing it, you know, like you know, like some like
a Russian fighter will be like, yo, shoot that ship down,
like let's see what's up like our other do other
countries have their versions of these programs too, where they're like,
don't tell anybody, like, we can't tell anybody, right, it's
and if they would, if they've reverse engineered it more
than us, like that, that's a question that I think.
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You know, they mentioned the idea that we're trying to
reverse engineer some of that ship and it's just not
possible based on what we know, because because all ufl
stories are that we know are from people who live
here in the US. Right, Yeah, let's feel like that
it's all or at least, I mean, they're probably just
more in our consciousness because it's in our country. But
I'm sure to our international audience hit us with alien
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stories from whatever your country is, so we can start,
you know, cross referencing. I mean, there's that picture of
the Madonna from the Renaissance Italy where there's just like
a UFO in the background that I'm not gonna lie,
kind of looks like a tic tac you guys. Uh
wait what Yeah, there's a painting of uh not Madonna
from the eighties miles uh No painting of the Virgin Marriage,
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and then there's like a tiny little speck in the
back that when you zoom in, it looks like it
looks like, yeah, it's weird, like Celia or something just
flying through the air. Um, so that's that's one Italian
UFO sighting potentially. Uh okay, cool, So so check that out,
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check that out, and uh, you know, get put your
tinflow hat on. Yeah, and get ready for let's let's
ride into this next break on our conspiracy theory music
and we'll be right back. And we're back now for
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some problems that are more clear and present. We have
so that this weekend was sort of boiling with rumors
that Trump was getting ready to fire Muller. I still
pronounced it as Mueller, Mueller whatever. However, the Mueller is
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in the eye of the beholder. But so, where where
do these where did these theories come from? Miles? So
it looks like it's a very coordinated attack from like
some gop hack congressman uh and a lot of Fox
News personalities that are really trying to fucking push all
these kinds of things, whether it's the media wing of
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the Trump exactly, or state run media Fox News or
your massive propaganda channel to point out that like one
of the things is like, oh, the Clinton four I
think there was like an attack ad going out on
Fox of like these like agents that worked on it,
who are talking spicy about Trump like in the election,
not during like this probe, trying to discredit a lot
of the investigation to basically like so the seeds and
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build some kind of wave or sentiment that Mueller should
be fired and the probe and special counsel should be ended.
Um like especially this weekend. One of the biggest ones
was the idea of like all these emails from the
transition team that Mueller got ahold of and like suddenly,
like I guess the Trump team didn't know because like
during the questioning they brought up emails and they were
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kind of like, oh, you all got those emails, and
now they're trying to be like you need to give
those back, like you got those illegally or whatever attorney
client privilege that keep calling attorney client privilege. It's like,
is that the only thing you know about the law
right exactly? Or even when it's like, oh, you know,
the biggest thing is that most people in the government
saying like this is part of public record, like you
there's no expectation that these are private. Be he got
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all those uh emails with the permission of like all
the appropriate you know, parties involved, use the appropriate criminal
processes to get them. Uh. And then another person would
be like, oh, well, you know, there's like executive privilege
because there's a transition team. But it's like fam executive
privilege applies when you become the executive, not the transition
Barack Obama is the executive during that time. You all
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are just the transition team. So there's not even that
like they have a lot of real these arguments don't
really stack up. Yeah, and I mean Trump's lawyers have
been up to this point super confident. It's been the
one thing that I've been like, well, maybe there is
nothing there, because you know, Ty Cobb is sitting there
twiddling his weird mustache and just being like, you know,
there's there's nothing here. Sure we'll give you everything. The
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fact that that that they were like, oh you have
those emails, like, but um, we didn't mean everything. Yeah.
I mean I've heard this described by a media analyst
as sort of the Trump administration putting out weather balloons
to see like how people will respond to the idea
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of him firing Mueller. Uh. And you know, that this
seemed like, you know, he's done that in the past,
when uh, I think ging Rich and a couple of
other stooges like came out and were like, yeah, we're
he should fire Muller. And it was just like a
little blip, like three different people who were Trump supporters
came out and like put that out there on Fox
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and then you didn't really hear about it some more
that m because it was like not taken seriously. And
now it was just like a barrage of that same thing,
and I feel like it's them once again just being
like is this okay? Are you guys gonna free because
and you know, look, we pointed this out a couple
of weeks ago, we said that the radic was getting spicy,
and now like again this weekend, it was full frontal
(43:19):
attack on this thing. Uh. And we we have a
clip of just some of like Think Progress put together
like a sort of montage of Fox News and GOP
lawmakers that are really trying to stoke the flames of
the fire Mueller movement. So we kind of picked some
of the better bits out of that. No one on
Muller team likes Trump. We already knew that. I don't
know if any experience in American history where you have
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the skin abusive power that we're seeing right now. This
is disgusting, unaccountable, biased. Robert Mueller has assembled the most
partisan special counsel in history. It needs to be cleansed
of individuals who should not just be fired, who need
to be How would straight face can you say that
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this group of Democrat partisans are unbiased and will give
President Trump affair shake. But the real investigation should be
into the highly corrupt and highly politic sized d O,
j FBI and even our intelligence community. It's a smoking
gun proof that Mueller's probe is a total political sham.
It's a witch hunt. It needs to be shut down
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immediately if we believe in the rule of law and
our constitution. Okay, I've never heard so many like their
voices even sound like there's some lion races pieces of ship. Uh,
this is crazy. By taking out in handcuffs, she of
course means putting handcuffs and shot in the back of
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the head right right, summarily executed. I mean, look, Judge Pierro,
you know, just keep speeding on the highway, like you know,
don't stop. Stop commenting on the rule of who is
that again, Judge Janine Pierro the one who uh you
know she tried to prosecute Robert Durst back in the day,
but now it was like a TV judge. And then
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it's like now the biggest Trump writer ever like saying,
just like, I think he can I think he's just
d m. She's so far out there that she had
a November first meeting with Trump in the White House
and uh, she was talking about I think uranium one
or whatever, the Hillary Clinton conspiracy theory where she supposedly
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gave Russia control of part of the US uranium. That
was what she was purportedly going to talk about. And
then she's launched into stuff about Muller and Komy and
even Trump like after an hour was just like, just like,
can somebody get her out of here? Really? Yeah, she
she gets private conversations with the President like she's like
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anybody from Fox News who he watches. I'm sure, but yeah,
it's it's wild to think that, you know, they want
to use this rule of law argument when this whole
investigation is going to boil down to like if the
rule of law will be respected in the country right,
because this is all about whether the president is higher
or above the law, which he is not. And by
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beginning to like meddle with this investigation that is time
after time like showing new things that at very least
are very troubling, like no matter how intense you want
to look at it. But the fact of the matter is,
like foreign country was fucking with our democracy. It's just
very scary because if he does dismantle this special counsel,
that step one of us like really kind of losing ourselves,
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losing the country about he's banking on the fact that
we as people have as short of an intention span
right that he does uh like the fact like when
when the whole like uh with with the whole grab
him out a pussy thing came out and then like
recently he was like he's flowing the idea that well
maybe those tapes were altered. A year ago you were
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like yes, at it, I'm sorry, and now a year
because he's just like, well maybe they forgot Well maybe
everyone is senile like me. Yeah, it's insane. So if
he fires Mueller Mula whatever his name is, uh Mula,
if he fires the fabulous Mula, Uh, he's banking on
the fact that they might be outraged for a couple
(47:20):
of weeks, but they'll get over it, kind of like
they got over it, comey because you know what you're
talking about? That no more? Yeah but that, but see
that led to this mess. So now he's got that.
That's the response. And then again luckily like he can't
fire him like illegally, right, Rod Rosenstein is the only
person who could technically fire him, So he would have
to fire Rod Rosens. Do you have to do a
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Nixon style Saturday Night massacre? Ways like you're gonna fire Muller.
He'll be like, no, I'm gonna resign. And he's like,
all right, I'm promoting you. You're in the game, your
point guard, you're starting. Can you fire Mueller? And they're
like no, I'm gonna resign. And again, this happened with
Nixon when he tried to kill the Watergate ship and
it just ends up like you'll he'll eventually find some
hack be like yeah, hell yeah, does it mean I'm
like the new attorney general? Uh? Nixon tried to stop
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the water Get investigation, and that's actually what got him
impeached was basically people be im like you know, that
just makes you so guilty. Um, And I do think that,
I mean, I have enough respect for the intelligence of
uh people who don't work at Fox News but who
are on the right that I think, even if you
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don't believe that there's anything there that for this investigation
to uncover, you still want to see it go to
its conclusion to prove that you don't you don't want
to question see it killed and make everybody think. I mean,
at the same time, if it does. See, it does
seem like the people who support Trump are mainly motivated
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by seeing him do anything that will enrage the left,
and this would be like the number one thing he
could do to enrage the left. So I don't know,
let's let's see. Uh. The one thing I heard over
the weekend that made me think he might not fire
him as somebody asked him, are you planning on firing Mueller?
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And he said no. And even though he isn't always
uh completely truthful, Uh, it does seem like the sort
of thing he wouldn't say if he was planning on it,
just because he hates to be wrong so much, like
you know, he would never be like, oh, I just uh,
you know, I guess I changed my mind like that,
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that seems like too much for him to admit that
he had time. And I'm not gonna put anything past
this too, because it looks like it's getting hotter and hotter,
and like the rumors of Jared is up next to
get a little indictment. So what do you think would happen? Like,
what would there be riots? What do you how some riots?
I mean I think if he fired Mueller, if he
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fired Mueller, I mean there again this weekend, like everybody
was like, this is what we need to do because
this will trigger a constitutional crisis and we need to
go into the streets and make people loud, like know
that we were out here and we see what's going on,
which is true. I mean I would go out there
and be like, uh, we see what's happening. Um, I'm
not going to really speculate. I don't. I'd rather not
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live in a reality where I have to think about
him like completely acting like he's a dictator that's above
the law, because that would be more like troubling to
me than like whatever the fallout is. I'm like, oh wow,
like this dude, because like his favorite list of leaders
are like Ji jim Ping, uh urdwan and uh fucking
putin do tete like he like the posters on his
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walls are not basketball players. There's like authoritarian Yeah, like
they're just dictators. So, I mean he wants unilateral power
like yeah, even in the beginning of his presidency he said,
And a lot of people probably forgot about this. He said,
you know, I'm exploring maybe I can pardon myself. Remember that. Yeah.
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Like so he he wants the complete power, unaccountable, unaccountable.
He's just looking at those other guys like, damn, y'all
get to just fucking tell everybody what to do in
your country? How do I do that here? Guys? How
do I do that here? It's a great white hope.
All right, this has been a blast Jackies having Yeah,
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