April 1, 2019 • 61 mins
In episode 360, Jack and Miles are joined by writer and podcast host Robert Evans to discuss new desserts coming to Sonic and Taco Bell, Democrats keeping their mouths shut, Jared Kushner and the Saudi's being up to no good, Betsy DeVos continuing her evil plans to destroy education in America, another possible civil war in America, Game of Thrones fight scene safe words, and more!
FOOTNOTES:
1. Sonic becomes first chain to serve Red Bull, luring the “young, hungry male”
2. Taco Bell's $1 Churro Donuts Just Beat McDonald's At Their Own Game
3. Rex Tillerson stopped Saudi and UAE from 'attacking' Qatar
4. QATAR SHOCKED, SHOCKED TO LEARN IT ACCIDENTALLY BAILED OUT JARED KUSHNER
5. THE KUSHNERS ARE FINALLY GETTING THAT SWEET, SWEET QATARI CASH
7. WATCH: Betsy DeVos argues that bigger class sizes are good for students
8. In America, talk turns to something unspoken for 150 years: Civil war
9. It Could Happen Here Podcast
10. ‘Game Of Thrones’ Had A Safe Word In Case Something Went Wrong During A Battle
11. Russell Crowe Explains All of His On-Set Injuries From Gladiator to Mystery, Alaska
13. WATCH: Bibio - Old Graffiti (Official Audio)
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet. I'm welcome to season seventy six, episode
one of Dirt Daily Night Guy. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
you from the podcast where we take a deep dive
into Americans share consciousness. It's Monday, April first, two thousand,
nineteen April Fool's Day. Oh wow, whoa, I got you,
(00:23):
fucking got you. My friend used to just I think
he still does, just calls people and then says, got you, man,
fucking got you admitted. Uh uh, my name is Jack O'Brien. Okay,
I'll be jacking the Zike guyst again. All the doors
(00:44):
that opened up and opened up again, that is courtesy
of one Mitch Wheeler, and I'm thrilled to be joined
as always by my co host, Mr Miles grag Here
we go. I put on my chat, I put l
a on the mat. I was like ganging on the game.
(01:06):
They're gonna remember my name the Daily. We come with
the plame. I got the green by the sack, I
got the crunchy little rap. I'm us great. How about
that site gang site ganginging gang. That was a dirty
but I transitioned from a sap to dirt bike. Thank
you too. Michael Hill at meek slo m I c
(01:27):
s a l oh for that one. A sap dirt
bike could be a rapper like a rapper. Yeah, I
mean they funk with bikes out there. You remember what
was the past and the past over here. There's a
little a little rev up sound that actually said, yeah,
well wait, what is a dirt bike? I'm very confused. Yeah,
(01:49):
what we were saying? Your dirt bike the floor? Anyway,
I've always got dirt bikes in the office, pissing everywhere.
We're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by
the hilarious and brilliant writer journalist podcast host Mr Robert Evan.
(02:11):
How's it going to those aprifol jokes? He's all shook
from that April fool. Sorry, I just I have to
disagree with Myles about something, and so I was I
was a little bit reticent, but that was that was
clearly a chainsaw, not a dirt bike. That's just how
it sounded. Man, Yeah, what is that one? That's dirt bike? Okay, yeah,
(02:33):
weird tiny little dirt like an electric one that like
has like a little two gallon gasoline. Robert, will you
admit that I fucking got you? Yes, I did what
what happened exactly, dude up top bro, and by that
I mean give me a high five now, thank you?
(02:56):
Uh well, Robert, we're we're thrilled to have you on
and just being fascinating individual. You are the host of
the biggest hit podcast on this here network, Behind the Bastards,
and a new podcast called it Could Happen Here. Yes, yeah,
(03:16):
two podcasts, which is like having m hm uh nailed
it with Those are the sorts of comparisons you can hear.
If it could happen here. If Behind the Bastards is
like a fine Mercedes, it could happen here is like
a fine Mercedes that somebody shot with a rocket propelled grenade,
(03:39):
but not while you were in it, just while you're
watching from a safe distance. Yeah, it's true. No, it's uh,
it's fascinating. We're gonna talk about the subject matter a
little later on the show, and we're gonna get to
know you a little bit better, even sooner than that. First,
we're gonna tell our listeners just a couple of things
we're talking about today. We're gonna start off with little
(04:00):
fast food news. Sonic will be serving up Red Bull
Slushi's Taco bell maybe serving up Truro donuts. Yes, they're
testing that out. We're gonna talk about the story of
Cruella Divos because it continues. We're gonna talk about the
subject of Robert's new podcast, the possibility of a second
(04:23):
American Civil War that might look like, Yeah, to do
it for the kids, Yeah, you nailed it. We should
talk about that video, which is the local news. Yeah,
a local news team made a video for a bunch
of high school students. It seems like they were aimed
(04:46):
at high school students. Yeah, who are taking boards that week?
And holy shit. And then we're gonna talk some Game
of Thrones. But first, before you get to any of
that ship, Robert, I want to hear from you, what
is some thing from your search history that's revealing about
who you are? How to make dick candle? Nicey? How
to make your own dick into a candle? And that's
(05:08):
the goal, is how to like, how to like mold
it and like this put awake in the hole. It's
been like a lot of time with the doctors to
be it's a favorit kind of video. Yeah. Wait, so
you're trying to make a real penis impression taken any steps,
but I was curious about it how it's even made,
and so I've been looking into the process. Did you
(05:29):
see a penis candle and you're like, oh, no, I
can make one. It was just an idea. Sometimes when
I'm trying to fall asleep. That's usually when I do
stuff when I when I google things that aren't like
specifically related to my job, where it'll just be like,
I wonder, how would you do that. It's like when
I looked into how to make liquor out of blood,
Like that's that's what I google, like one thirty in
(05:49):
the morning when I'm trying to fall asleep, that you
can make liquor out of blood? Well, no, I was
just I wanted to know if you could, and I
found I found a discussion as to have it. I
want to know if you can you can out of
another human bodily functions. You can absolutely make liquor at
a poop. You can make liquor out of a lot
of things. Yeah, So hey, gang out there, keep trying,
(06:12):
keep trying shoot for the moon. So you just like
I just want to get a shoot for the poon
that I was trying to make that means something unfortunate incidence. Yeah,
really just trying to get into your mind, which is
a terrifying place to be. But you were just drifting off.
(06:35):
And then a candle shaped like a dick, like a
photo realistic dick. Like, what are we talking about? I
thought it would be funny to give as a gift
to like, particularly male friends and colleagues of mine, like
a candle that's just like my penis, but a candle,
Oh it's your penis. Yeah, that's what I was looking into.
You know, what would be involved in that process? Because
(06:56):
Christmas is just around the corner, um, and I figure
I should start like figure ringing that out now. And
I didn't learn much because I fell asleep had some
weird dreams, but I might get back into it. Well,
this is all fascinating stuff. What is something you think
is underrated cigarettes? Underrated cigarettes? I think not here first kids,
not for young people, not for like teens and millennials.
(07:19):
But I think we should really get the boomers back
on the cigarette train. Yea, we should really push the
cigarettes hard on the over forty crowd and just kind
of clear that out for cigarettes, they're good now, good
for you now, so that is a population control mechanism.
You're saying is I'm not about the population, It's more
about the next couple of elections, right right, Yeah, and
(07:43):
then it's fun. But we got to find a hook though,
if we're really going to get people like they're like,
I don't know if you saw this study at all,
I think we really drive. Wow, now we can't drive
because the ones that really needed don't believe in climate change.
This is tough. It's tough too. It's tough to figure
out the ad campaign. I feel like I think if
you said, if every cigarettes smoked brings Hillary Clinton closer
to death than people would smokes, an extra hundred and
(08:06):
fifty million cigarettes will indict Hillary Clinton. That's how we
fucking do it. Okay, I think we know how to
save this country. Guys. Yeah. If any generation is just
going to hang around way too long at the party, though,
I do think it's going to be the boomers, And
they've already puked on the floor, right if they didn't
(08:29):
clean it up or leave. I guess the seventies they
were all right. They got a good start. In the sixties.
There's a whole thing of like how grandparents were sort
of the boomer and slightly older generation the greatest generation
like that because a lot of people are not like
a lot of grandparents are having to enter childcare. That
it's like that's this other force that's completely hollowing out
retirement for for baby boomers and stuff. So yeah, well
(08:53):
a lot of people having to step in because sometimes
the parents. Man. Yeah, when you research a lot of
us to do with the opioid epidemic. Actually they say
that the millennials are actually closest to Greatest generation, like
in terms of just like being total ballers. Yeah, no,
just in terms of being more civic minded and like
socially minded. I remember when I wanted to walk with
(09:15):
some Nazis. Yeah, storms, what is something you think is overrated?
This ties into that video we were talking about the
TV news. I think it's a bad idea. I've come
to the conclusion that like, maybe there's no benefit to
daily TV news. Maybe it's it's or more toxic to
just like our national discourse and the whole country. Maybe
(09:36):
it's almost impossible to liver like like reasonable, well thought out,
accurate information in the format that TV news currently exists within.
What is it about TV? Because This is something like
I've seen really talented people have to like be forced
into a TV format and it's like they just like
funk it up something like they just make them worse
(09:58):
versions of themselves, like I've see. It's just like something
about TV that really doesn't work except for the Simpsons. Yeah,
it's the strict time constraints. I think that's part of it.
I think it's partly the ad supported thing, although you
know you have that with newspapers too. I think it's
like just the amount that they try to cover so
you can't like some subjects, like you're talking about the
(10:19):
fucking Syrian Civil War, there's nothing useful you can deliver
to people in thirty seconds, which is what you're going
to have. It's also this conventional wisdom that took over
that was just like no, you got yeah, you gotta
keep their eyes and brains buzzing, like with new changes
in bright flashing ship seconds. Wasn't that anecdote about Bill
(10:39):
Shine when he was working at Fox was just like
there was a fire at a building and he just
made all the coverage just about the fire and like
just show the fire to show that they want them out.
It's because it's really not about informing people, just about
how do you tap into their fears or yeah it's yeah,
it's one of those things like the fucking Momo thing
that like came like that was like a big TV
(11:01):
news thing. I don't think if like it was all
newspapers and online articles and stuff like, yeah, there would
have been some sensational bullshit, but like none of like
the legacy, like the legacy TV media ran with that
to an extent, like the New York Times. Any reporter
who's worth a salt who starts looking at that, it's
going to learn like twenty seconds, Oh this is nothing, right, Okay,
well that's the story that this is nothing. Yeah. I mean,
(11:21):
I think from a cultural perspective, Momo was interesting because
it was a monster face that you got to put
on something that really is out there and terrible, which
is like the children's entertainment on the internet is really fucked,
And so they were just like, yeah, oh that was
the thing that was allegedly a video that was convincing
(11:42):
kids to like murder their families, which is a thing
that people on YouTube have tried to do. It just
wasn't real with like Momo and nothing it wasn't a
weird Japanese art piece, nobody had been hurt or killed
or anything. But there is just not just heaps and
heaps of garbage that no exactly how to hypnotize two
year old and their parents are just like, yeah, here
(12:05):
you go, here's the smartphone. Yeah. That feeds into my
issue more than just TV news. It's just like the
amount of poison that people ingest via their eyes that
we're all just like, yeah, this is just the way
it is. Yeah, how else could it be? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, okay, Yeah,
your brain diet. We've talked before. We've we've talked before
about how like people think about their diet a little
(12:27):
bit more constructively now, but we should also be thinking
about our media diet. Yeah. I didn't think about like, yeah,
because I watched a lot of trash shows and I
realized too, like I'm mainlining just a lot of vapid conflict,
Like on its surface, the energy that's coming off the
screen is just negative. Yeah. That's why I was, like,
I was having starting to triage my garbage TV, and
(12:48):
I'm like I can't just keep giving it that, like
I have to balance it out with something because I
realized that I'm actually in the midst of an experiment
to see, like if I just only keep it to messes, Okay,
I like messy drama on a reality show, but ship
where just like people being like this person sucking sucks
and like that ship. I realized I'm like the more
I watched that subtly, I mean not that like I'm
(13:10):
I think I'm more stupid for only figuring this out
now or just sort of being aware of it. How
much that sort of can affect my mood a little bit,
even on a very subconscious level, even though I'm not
like fully buying into what I'm seeing, It's just that
that's what I'm giving myself. So you know, that's what
stood up. Then I watch you know, Bumpets and Ship. Yeah,
(13:31):
now I only watch Mr Rogers Neighbor Got to It
feels relaxing. Yeah, you know, but there's what you're giving yourself,
you know. Yeah, Like I I've noticed there are certain
podcasts that if I watch, I feel like you listen
to him? Uh No, I watched the Wow Just watch
(13:53):
the cursor sixth cents over here. There are certain podcasts
that if I listened to them, I will feel like
garbage after it's just yeah, it's the same thing as
fast food. It's just like you have to pay attention
to how different things you're putting into your brain like
you feel and like affect you. Because I went on
a streak of watching old Dateline episodes on YouTube like
(14:15):
like two years ago. It was all I was watching
for like like maybe three week period because I was
just like, yes, bro, more more. It had me fucking
all kinds of fun. Like I became a little more
susceptible to paranoia or just like or my confirmation bias
was a little more centered around like the really dark
ship and I was like, oh, yeah, because I'm just
eating that's what I'm eating. Yeah, I can say, like
(14:37):
people ask me all the time because behind the bastards,
I'm always reading about like terrible people, Like doesn't that
funk you up? And I joke about like yeah, so
I do a bunch of drugs. But the reality is
that like reading a good book about like a guy
like Hitler or a guy like Stalin or one of
these terrible people, that doesn't put me in a bad place.
If it's really good work, like it's it's it's edifying
you learn something, I feel better after it. I feel
(14:59):
bad on Twitter right in YouTube and stuff like those
make me feel like shit. Like nothing has convinced me
to go buy more guns than like bad Twitter benches
where I'm like, oh my god, everything's falling apart right
right right, And that is sort of your vice or
one of your that is definitely one. No gun buying,
I mean, shooting is a relatively healthy hobby. Consider it
(15:22):
like it's it's like a technical skill. You get out
of the house, you do something. Um, gun buying is
debatably healthy, but like the actual act of getting better
at a physical task, I think he's usually a good thing.
But the fact that like your backyard looks like that
bunker from terminator to that the people have been building up,
well you ready for the coming of They haven't found
(15:44):
the mailman. So technically no one can connect that to
anything I may or may not have fired on in
the night. Uh you know, there you go. I have
no idea what you're talking about. But what is a myth?
What something people think it's true? You know to be
false that you just have to let the cops arrest people.
You're about the story from Chicago were like to Chicago
PD officers wore trying to arrest this guy for drugs,
and all of his friends came out in the street
(16:06):
and forced them to let him out and give him
back his drugs. Don't. Yeah this like crowd surrounded these
cops and we're like, no where in fucking Chicago. I
think it was Chicago. Yeah, like Chicago, Like crowd forces
police to let suspect go or something like that. Should
bring it up. It just read about it like yesterday,
and uh yeah, I think people have this. That's the
(16:30):
version of the sovereign citizen thing that actually works. Yeah,
a horride of angry people being like no, guys like
this ain't happened today? Yeah, is it? I see it
on a Blue Lives Matter. Oh wait no, let me
go to the Chicago the Chicago Tribune. Yeah, drug suspect
escapes after group threatened Chicago couple. Right, get that fucking great.
(16:51):
They were searching for a drug suspect who escaped arrest
when a group of men threatened to harm the officer
taking him into custody on the city's most side. Wow. Yeah, Jesus,
just do that. Don't let him arrest your friends. Also,
don't get shot, don't get shot. But if there's more
of you than there are bullets, simple math. Wow. That
(17:11):
is so, I mean, had a great story. That's just
the kind of ship that you see in a movie
where I mean, look, I think they're just trying to
get this guy because they saw him do a little
hand to hand drug transaction and all part of the
drug war. People were not having that ship. And I
think it's great. It's like the end of training day.
You know. Yeah, he thought he could get keep bad
coping it out here, but his whole neighborhood was just
(17:33):
waiting for him. I'm kind calling you king, No, but
isn't there some where he's like shot and he's like,
you motherfucker, there's some Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's something great movie.
Let's talk about red bull slushes. He reminds me of
when I was interviewing for this job and you're like, oh, wow,
so I didn't know you'd like to get wet. Sure
he's smoking. I don't understand any of this guy. He
(17:59):
like forces Ethan Hawk to smoke fucking PCP and he
says it's some other ship when he smokes, Like what's
going on? He goes, I don't know you like to
get wet tricked him and his smoking uh. And then
on The Chappelle Show Wayne Brady episode two, Yeah we
should we should do an episode of the show on PCP. Yeah,
you know what, just just a side note and Derek,
(18:20):
I don't know if you remember Dare Uh and Dare
the cops would always be like, Man, PCP, I see people,
they're so strong. This guy lifted dumpster over his head
and threw it through a squad car. Can I tell
you since YouTube fucking came out, even live leak, I
have been searching for PCP Superman videos. Cannot find. The
closest I've come is that clip of the Bachelor jumping
(18:40):
over that sense Yeah, and that I don't think he
was on PCP. I think that was just pure embarrassment.
It's you know, that is PCP pure commitment phobia. And
that has been my time. There needs to be an
award for what you like, a trophy or something. It's
called my mom going still doing that? How's that? Working
(19:04):
on winning it fourteen years in a row? Now? Alright,
let's talk about Red Bull slushies. Sonic will start serving
them to young hungry males is apparently what the language
and if if we're going to serve this poison to
young people, why not try to get old people back
on cigarettes. That's all I'm saying. You red Bull slushes like,
(19:26):
oh wait, and your boomer, here's your pack of free
Marboro yeah, filterless reds uh so. Yeah, Apparently they're really
trying to what they say. There's like a so called young,
hungry male demographic that is the one that's is basically
the most loyal to like the fast food industry as
a whole, and they're realizing weight the caffeine heavy drinks too,
(19:47):
because a lot of people, if you're doing drive through
a long road trips or something, yeah, you maybe want
to pop in for a Red Bull slushy is the
one part that gets me a little odd or puts
me off a little bit. It's going to taste like cancer. Yeah,
that is the red Bull FLA red Bull already doesn't
taste pleasant to me, Like it's fine, it's palatable, but
it's not like I'm like, oh, it's medicine. It tastes
(20:10):
literally like medicine. Every Red Bull I've ever agreed to
drink has tasted like the only way in the scrip
is necessary. What about the ones you didn't agree to
drink because somebody water boarding with red Bulls? Oh yeah,
she actually just made us pound red bull and Vodkas.
It was Yeah. I used to drink the diet ones man,
(20:30):
and my chest would just be just rocking, rumping, the
umping up. I think that's a fun way to describe
a heart attack. It's only easy to drink if you've
just read something about climate change and then you're like, yeah,
why not something you're doing like metal blast beats with
your heart anyway. So this is kind of part of
(20:53):
the Sonics whole thing. They're doing what every other fast
food chain isn't doing, and they're leaning in the opposite
direction of health. Like everyone is down trying to be
like here's you know, we got wholesome ingredients or whatever.
Sonic is like, fuck that. Right now they have like
your health, yeah, funk your health. Fuck you were coming
for your throat And you don't come to Sonic because
you want to live long. Of course you can come
(21:14):
here to Sonic can get fucked in the hard anyway. Um.
So they because right now they have an all day
like bacon and fried egg top they called a brunch burger. God,
there's a double stuff Oreo waffle cone. They're working on
broccoli cheese tots. How is that not murder? I don't know.
But like when the vice president of when they asked
(21:38):
when they asked the vice president of product that Sonic
about it, he was like, I don't know why we
would do a salad, but we can do some tots.
And it's like, yeah, but I guess that's the thing
because prior to people you know, becoming we're fucking cholesterol
or sodium and ship fast food was a race to
the bottom, like who can make the wackiest fucking food,
who can fit the most foods in the smallest prey area.
(22:00):
And I think that's sort of on one side of it,
you have health conscious people, but then there are people
who are out here who absolutely love or why don't
you try, like me, the grossest stuff because that's the
fun and fest. It's it's for the rolling cold demographic,
the people who like modify their cars to put out
extra smog. That's that was my first job with Sonic,
at least I was there for a week before I
(22:22):
got a job at Barnes and Noble, and I never
even picked up my paycheck, Like it was so bad.
Sonic went to Barnes and Noble and you were one
of the roller skating waiters, right, No, no, I was
one of the commercials inside guys, it was it. Yeah,
just because working in fast food in general, Yeah, I
(22:43):
think it might be particularly bad. But in terms of
the quality of food or think transgressions you witnessed, it
was just inside of a sonic. You can't trick yourself
into thinking it's not poison because the smell is very
clearly poison Like the inside of a sonic smells like death,
like from aaldehyde. It smells like the inside of a sonic,
(23:04):
like active war zone smell less toxic, and you know
you've spent some time in the active war zone. I
prefer that sense you. Also, just briefly, Taco Bell is
testing out a truro doughnut that looks kind of delicious.
That's a great idea. That's a great idea. That's just
a palate cleanser for us going into the break because
(23:25):
I have something that we want to eat. I'll even
eat those cinnamon twists. Well, this seems like a doughnut
made of the cinnamon man, the caramel apple and Panada. Yeah,
no shade on Taco Bell. And you know what, in
a way, that's what I'm saying. I'm kind of take
my hat off to Sonic because they know there's a
group of people who are willing to go there, and
(23:45):
they're in Sonic is for those people. Yeah, unless they
want to give us a lot of money, in which
case Sonic is for everyone, is for the people. Alright,
we're gonna take a quick break. We'll be right back.
(24:05):
And we're back, and we spent the break superroducer on
a Hosnier informing Robert of where he could get a
I guess a screen accurate rendering of your penis for
Candle proposes, Yeah, or bespoke Penis candles spoke Penis candles. Yeah,
there you go. You just because the name of our
(24:27):
new box company. Every month a new different person's day
in just a different persons, not famous people. It's just
like great, here's a picture of him like on his
front porch, his hands Tis pro David from Coral Gables
(24:50):
vcs out there. If you give us what six million, Yeah,
weird dicks of America like that would be a special series,
guys with kind of weird Dicks. Yeah, but what's weird?
You know what I mean? Yeah, Dick and the candling
process teaches us all that. Yes, uh, we mentioned the
(25:12):
Betsy Divos thing. But in addition to defunding special Olympics,
she also was testifying about her theory that fewer teachers
and bigger classes are actually a good thing. Yeah, because
all her budget, they're like, you're cutting so much money,
Like what, how do you explain this? And she was saying,
(25:34):
you know, like in her written testimony before she went
to go basically try and defend her hideous budget. Uh,
there was a quote from her written testimony said there's
no evidence that the federal taxpayer investments in existing professional
development programs or class sized reduction have meaningfully improved student outcomes.
And people were like, what, in fact, students may be
better served by being in larger classes if by hiring
(25:55):
fewer teachers, a district or state can better compensate those
who have demonstrated high ability, the and outstanding results. So anyway,
the chairwoman, I believe astor can you run me through
that again? And then asks for a thing that Republicans
aren't used to presenting, which is some kind of study
or facts to back up their assertion. In your testimony,
(26:15):
you stated the following and I quote, students may be
better served by being in larger classes if by hiring
fewer teachers, a district or state can better compensate those
who have demonstrated high quality and outstanding results. Uh, and
U quote. This is contrary to decades of long standing
(26:36):
credible research, like the student teacher achievement ratio that actually
recommended on average student teacher ratio to be fifteen to one.
So what evidence based research do you have to back
your statement? Uh, well, that must be in my written testimony.
And I would just comment to the fact that given
(26:56):
uh you know, given education freedom initiatives, Um, there are
different kinds of environments in which students learn well. Some
students can learn better with larger classes, with more students
to collaborate with to learn with other smaller de site.
What research you're using to make that there's there's plenty
(27:19):
of research that will under undergird the fact that mandating
a specific class size doesn't deal results. I would be
happy to have if you submit a question for the record,
I will be happy to do do so. If you
said that's what she's asking right now, like way to come,
prepare to ask a question again? Eventually I will not
(27:43):
have it. Okay, I'm gonna have to punt on this on.
Can you just put it on a post it for
me and I'll come get it at the end and
I'll try and get back to you. But you know
that the idea that they're going to collaborate with that
you're like, what your other fucking eight year old friend
is going to teach you some ship that you didn't
know without the teacher. Yeah, but the teacher will be
so good and so well paid, but we're also cutting
(28:03):
them if you don't need as much money because we're gosh,
it's you guys really aren't getting this? How this? Um? Yeah?
I guess the logic is get rid of the shitty teachers,
get the superstar teachers, give them their money, and then
let them teach seven kids at once, right, Yeah, just
a big school house. Go back to the days where
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it was one teacher and then the entire kids in
one room. Yeah, what you all doing over here? Hear
me out? Fellas, Oh boy, now that's skyping. Skype exists.
What if we find the best teacher, we pay them
a lot of money, and they just teach all the
kids one teacher, all the students, one teacher to rule them,
(28:46):
one teacher to rule them all. And then you just
have little like squadrons of kids who then teach each o.
You know what, Yeah, I bet si divos or like
I could be the one teacher because all they need
to know is that am Wai is a fan tacit
to make money and this is a great way for
you to become financially in the credible opportunity. I mean,
(29:06):
I want to ask you this, ma'am um. You're a mother, right,
and you probably want to set a great example for
your daughter. What better way to than show her that's
your freedom isn't tied to your husband's and you can
do it with a fraction of the time investment that
your husband does putting in a forty hour week. I mean,
that's the type of ship Roberts, right. Kids, kids need
(29:28):
to be learning the important truth about an Amway and
that nonsense about the Second World War and how authoritarian
regimes arise and talking about slavery. Don't teach them about
that and not the opportunity is provided by Amway. Would
like to actually tell you about another form of slavery
that's being dependent on these other companies for your goods
(29:50):
when real emancipation proclamation is inside the hundred and fifty
dollar Amway starters. I like to call the am wastipation
pers Christ Hey, so yeah, emancipation proclamation. The Civil War, Yeah,
(30:10):
that was transition. Um, seems like I do want to
talk about the possibility of a second American Civil War.
This is the subject of your new podcast that could
happen here, which people can go subscribe to now on
their podcast listening platform of their choosing. But so can
(30:33):
you kind of talk I mean, this seems like a
thing that I'm hearing more and more from, like people
on both sides of the divide, like talking about Okay,
I thought it was crazy a couple of years ago,
and now like I think it's less crazy basically. Um. Yeah,
And what one of the things that jumped out to
me in the first episode is just like some of
(30:56):
the audio you have of people on the right, Like,
I don't think people literally calling to murder their political animazing. Yeah, yeah,
it's it's it's pretty wild. Yeah that's a thing. Yeah,
so much kind of did it implicitly like a week
ago when he was saying that like the Bikers for Trump,
he has the Bikers for Trump and the military, and
(31:18):
if they pushed too far, they're gonna it's gonna be very, very,
very bad. And there's just a little story behind that.
When we were going through the drafts of the first episode,
I didn't initially have a lot in there about the
potential of the president calling on militias and his armed
supporters in order to keep him in power. And you
were like, you should talk a little bit more about that,
And I felt awkward writing it because I was like,
(31:40):
this just seems like a step too far. And then
he said that, and then he did it. He said
it was like, oh, well, I guess I guess I
could just pop this all in. I guess what do
you say, right to people who are kind of like, Okay,
everything seems very stable, now, what is the road map
or what are the events that could possibly lead to it?
(32:00):
Because I think the whole point of your show, right,
like the idea of that it could happen here is
that as Americans, we tend to think of civil wars
and things like that as things that are happening like
they're developing world or and just I mean, come on,
it's it's the US. Like you know, people people like
their shipped too much to try and fight each other
in the streets. But what are the I guess the
different versions because I think a lot of people think,
like is there going to be like coastal versus whatever,
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Like you know, like what are the divisions that you see?
It would be a bunch of different small groups popping
up in different chunks of the country, carrying out attacks
with the goal of making the country ungovernable, because that's
how war works. Now, that was essentially before they seized
a bunch of territory. Um. The sort of book that
isis is whole fucking thing was based off of that,
like led to the tactics that led to them seizing
an area larger than England in Syria and Iraq. It's
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a book called The Management of Savagery, and the idea
is that you don't try to oppose a national military
by just starting off by trying to raise an army
and fight it in the field like the South did
back in eighteen sixty one. You try to render the
country ungovernable so that order breaks down and then you
can seize control and like that actually works pretty well.
And I think the United States is in a situation
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where as stable and as much money as we have,
we also have a lot of ingredients that could lead
to a really ugly insurgency that could render the country ungovernable.
Like they try to think about, like how munch of
guys would air fifteens could fight the U. S. Military,
And like, my answer to that is what a fucking
Afghanistan and not think about Appalachia. Think about what a
couple of thousand guys who are really committed to fucking
with the government could do just in that one chunk
(33:29):
of the country, And how hard it would be to
root them out, how much money it would cost, how
many civilians would die, What that would do to people's
faith in the federal government, their ability to trust it,
Like the repercussions that would have around the country, the
other groups that would inspire. They just arrested forty neo
Nazis in Florida with a rocket laundry, Like there's groups
of people who have that, like the the physical infrastructure
necessary if other people in the country were doing it,
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And yeah, I was just gonna say, if people were
talking about white supremacists as like a unitary block the
way they think about Islamic terrorists, then I feel like
they would sort of recognize them as a bigger danger
than than they are. But because the American media and
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the American brain has a tendency to just be like, oh,
a white terrorist, well that's one of clearly just a
random guy that happened, right exactly. It's always treated as
a as a one off instead of vanilla isis and
great great term. Wow, oh that's even y'all, Kata Yeah,
(34:46):
um oh, but we're here real quick though. I do
want to hear because, like you have some quotes in
here from people who like the right is openly saying
they will kill liberals if they try to impeach Trump.
And I think we have a clip of that. Yeah,
we have a clip of one of the more extreme
people on the right. Yeah, Alex certain, Mr Alex Joness,
(35:09):
you're trying to start the civil war with people. You're
taking our kindness for weakness. Do you understand the American
people will kill all of you if you want a
real war A seventeen seventy six. I'm not the one
that's called pro violence you're gonna get wrecked. Bads. I
don't want a war. I don't need some you know,
(35:29):
coming of age deal to kill a bunch of liberals.
I just can't. But I also feel like I'm in
dereliction of as a citizen of my duty not saying
we have to start getting ready for insurrection and civil
war in that instance? What are the sides the diametrically
opposed sides that Alex Jones like, is it liberals that
he's just thinking people with their MPR bags are gonna
(35:50):
just pull up and try and you know, bore him
to death with. I think he's talking about like the
potential of like what if they try to impeach President
Trump or try what if you know, they he voted
out of office and what surely the far right would
consider to be an illegitimate election. You know, I think
one thing even more than Alex Jones, because his popularity
is a little bit on the wayne, although he still
(36:10):
speaks to hundreds of thousands of people every month. I
think one thing you have to really take seriously is
the growth of the Q and on conspiracy. The journalist
called Bill ben Collins, who's been covering it pretty heavily
who just posted pictures from outside of a Trump rally
where they were like a hundred someon people all in
Q regalia out there. And the easiest thing in the world,
Even more easier than finding Alex Jones talking about wanting
(36:31):
to kill liberals is finding Q and On fans talking
about wanting to murder people like wanting because they believe that,
like everyone against Trump is part of a vast pedophilic
conspiracy that's also like the reason why they're not rich.
Like it's it's this whole multifaceted weird cult, but like
it's growing, it's not stopping, it's spreading outside of the
United States. I have friends in London who are talking
(36:53):
to me about seeing fucking more que stuff at protests,
Like it's this this new kind of cult that like
we haven't really dealt with before, where there's like no
head and no organization, but like these groups of people
radicalizing each other. I just found my neighborhood papered and
like Q and On flyers um, Like it's fucking scary um.
(37:13):
And I will guarantee you all of those people own guns. Yeah,
well not I think we even I don't know if
we spoke about it. But there was that one Q
and On conspiracy theorist who was really getting frazzled over
the lack of arrests that were happening because they were like,
we were promised like things were going to happen, and
and her worry was like, if I'm afraid, if these
(37:35):
arrests don't come, we're gonna have to go and knock
down John Podesta's door. So they think that Robert Mueller
is going to come in and arrest was able to
definitely these people, and John podest is part of it.
I think that's what they're saying. Like, so she was saying,
if Robert Muller doesn't start arresting the Clintons and the
(37:56):
Obama's and John Podesta not, I will therefore realize my
conspiracy theory is insane. It is I will then have
to go start killing people myself. It's like that guy
who blocked one of the numerous now terrorists or attempted
terrorist attacks that almost ended in bloodshed was a guy
who like parked his armored vehicle on the Hoover Dam
(38:17):
filled with guns and tried to block off access to
the Hoover Dam until President Trump unleashed the sealed indictments
he believes exists, and the President retweeted one of these
people a couple of days. It wasn't about a Q
and on thing, but it was a and it's like
that was on that weekend where you like, he's playing
with buddy. Did you just not notice it? Or are
you fucking playing with something really goddamn dangerous? Like I
(38:38):
don't I don't know what that dude, right. No, I
think he is perfectly willing to like create a huge
civil war sized conflict or like you know, a civil
insurrection if he thinks it's an existential issue regarding his
claim to power. And I really think I mean Michael
(39:02):
Cohen during his testimony specifically said he does not think
there's any chance that there will be said, give my
experience working for Mr Trump, I fear that if he
loses the election in that there will never be a
peaceful transition of power. Yeah, I mean, who knows him
better than that? And like, I don't know, that's a
(39:23):
thing to be scared of. And it's part of were
when people like Elizabeth Warren says stuff like I don't
know even know if will be a freeman because it's
like like fucking Nixon, I'm sure he deserves to be
in prison, but like that's why we don't do that
in this country. We don't. We don't jail or even
when they commit crimes. And like you can argue that
maybe we ought to, but also like part of why
(39:44):
we don't is because that's why we've had so many
peaceful transitions of power, because we know we're not going
to go after you even if you do commit a
bunch of war crimes. Like that's just and like it's
fucked up, but maybe maybe it's better than having all
the civil wars that the Romans he us to have
when they would do ship like that. Like I I
don't know, but there's an argument to be made. And
(40:05):
like I think everyone, like right now, we're all hanging
out and like a warehouse filled with gasoline soaked rags,
and everybody's playing with matches and yelling at everybody else
we're playing. Stop playing with matches, as they like, as
they together, Hey, you stop it, right, So yeah, and
you get into a lot more detail, and like you
(40:25):
know what the various versions of a civil war could
look like in America, because it wouldn't look like you've
spent time in active war zones in other countries, and
it doesn't look like one side versus the other, right, No,
I mean mostly it just looks like a bunch of
people trying to go about their day and sometimes things explodes. Explodes, yeah,
and like or that, you're just there's always shooting going
(40:46):
on nearby, and you're just like, well, it's been pretty
nice in my neighborhood for a while. I hope that continues.
I gotta go pick up ship from the store, like yeah,
Like it's just life for most people. And like, unless
you've got some sort of like hardcore plan and desire
to go go out shooting, like most people will probably
just try to keep their ship together, like keep your
eyes low, yeah, don't make a big thing and hope
(41:07):
it ends um, which is why so many civil wars
and with a dictator in charge, like in Syria, where
eventually enough people are like I just wanted to be over,
Like yeah, they're like find this guy promised no more shooting. Yeah, right. Look,
when I listened to the episode the trailer, I was
freaked the funk out. I mean not because it's a
very very troubling idea to try and have to wrestle
(41:30):
with that, like that level of instability and violence could
actually just break out in the United States and your
I know your intention is not to freak people out
of just be necessarily fear monger me, but I think
it's it's a what is sort of your goal? I
think in presenting people with this information, I'm trying to
think of it's sort of like a like a vaccine
in the hopes that like if you if you talk
about this enough and get this out enough to people
(41:51):
and like get this idea in people's heads of like
how much of it and rather than just talk about
a civil war and like this like yeah, and you
should buy you should buy this, you should buy that.
It's like this sort of ask orational thing which has
been on the far right for a while. You talk
about how much it would suck, exactly what would happen,
exactly how difficult it would be to contain once it
gets started, and when like at the end, like the
(42:11):
last episode is going to be trying to talk about
the concrete actions people can take try to make it
less likely, Like the goal of this is to inform
people of the danger, Like it's not fearmongering in the
way that like if I see that you're looking at
your phone while you're driving and you like turn a
corner and are headed towards a wall, if I say, Miles,
there's a fucking wall, Like that's the goal, Like, that's
the goal is to be like, there's a fucking wall
(42:33):
out there, and like maybe maybe look at the wall
and see if about see about pumping them brains, because
I think that's sort of the the effect it has
is because it's sort of you're able to sort of
concretely see what a reality like that could look like,
and we already do I think as Americans you try
and not to ever entertain that because it's just a
(42:53):
chilling thought. But when you look at sort of the
kind of rhetoric that's happening, it's something definitely that like
people have increasingly become you know, afraid of, especially with
the increased number of like violent attacks and the sort
of ideology of the of these people. Uh, I mean,
the the idea that this is kind of a first
(43:15):
time that somebody is really bringing up the possibility of
a second American Civil War in like sort of center
to left media is like not first time anyone's bringing
it up, but really, like it was about that cracked artist. Yeah,
but this is something that has been talked about on
the right constantly four years and years since I was
(43:36):
fucking eighteen and going to gun shows in Texas, like
they have only thing people they've been horny for a
civil war for so long. So that's also something that
your show helped me realize. And it's it's a real
win win for me from a content creator standpoint, because
if there is a civil war, then I'm I'm the
guy who called it, and if there's not a civil war,
then I get to take credit for their not being
a civil war. I saved everybody's lives. So it's really
(43:59):
it really works out great for me one way. Also
the one who's most well prepared, since you have that
stash of heavy artillery, I'm gonna say, I'm sorry, Robert,
but like, if there is no civil war, I'm gonna
have to give that up to Kendall Jenner. Yeah, she
did hand that cop of PEPSI And I'm just saying,
(44:20):
and I know you might want to point to this
podcast is maybe being there, but I see that as
the real image Llians in like fred years and that's
the point at which Earth began to heal. We're like,
we're worshiping a golden statue of Kendall Jenner and the
Pepsi commercial that did change things, man, Like, when can
you picture the Pepsi like ad executives talking like thinking
(44:43):
about like twenty years from now. Man, this is gonna
be a moment. This is gonna gonna be water. It's
like when Apple stopped Night four from happening in nineteen
eighty four by doing that at a commercial nine, we
broke the funk out. Yeah, Unfortunately, smartphones have aaved us
and made us completely impervious to authoritarian oversight and so happy,
(45:04):
super super cool utopia they brought us. Yeah, super cool utopia.
Your next podcast. All right, we're gonna take a quick break.
We'll be right back, and we're back. And a couple
(45:25):
of interesting details from the Game of Thrones from behind
the scenes. Uh yeah, if you if you've watched Game
of Thrones, you know there's some pretty intense battle scenes
that are yeah, narn kind of on par with movies
like Gladiator, Brave Heart, Lord of the Rings, except uh
(45:49):
not like Braveheart. When in the background you can see
the guys faking and like, yeah, there's a great one
where like cuts faw. Yeah. Yeah, it's like they heard
someone yelled cut or something, so they like like like
they're just dicking around. I mean, look, it's hard to
get fucking what like hundreds of actors on the same page,
(46:12):
especially in a battle scene. Well, I think that's what's
kind of interesting at those Game of Thrones ones, is that.
I mean we've heard, you know, little things from the set, uh,
and remarkably it doesn't seem like a horribly injury riddled set.
I mean, I'm sure there are injury but like you know,
for example, like a gladiator, right, Russell Crowe like broke
his entire body. He lost all feeling in his right
(46:33):
forefinger for two years because of a sword fight thing
that went wrong. He aggravated and achilles tendon injury. He
broke a footbone, cracked his hip bone, popped a few
bicep tendons out of their sockets. He was fucked up
from these scenes. And you know, like the good scenes,
they look intense and it's a great Pigo Mortenson the
(46:53):
same thing and the first load of the rings and
like he screams out but it kind of works in
the scene because they're because what they lost, Like it's
right after Boromere dies, right like kicks it and yelps
a couple of weeks of filming is what they lost. Yeah,
the producer over here they were falling behind mention. So
(47:18):
we find out from the stunt coordinator. Like Game of Thrones,
they basically, like any risky situation involving many people, like
a massive battle scene or retirement home orgy, they use
safe words to make sure that nobody has hurt because
a lot of these scenes, you know, people like like
it's just chaos, but they have a little safe word.
So according to one of the stunt coordinators, Raleigh Erlam,
(47:41):
they said that they keep the set safe by using
a safe word. When we're doing these battles and people
are screaming and crying and dying, you might not know
if someone's in trouble, he explains, So our safe word
has always been banana. So if someone started shouting banana
at the top of their voice, you know they're in trouble.
So someone just having to listen out like like set
medics and like the A D or whatever. Just like
(48:03):
that's interesting because that might be an insight that bananas
don't exist in the Game of Thrones universe, because like, otherwise,
why wouldn't they be saying banana if you're staying in
care I mean, I think it's just more to signal
to the crew they know, but like, think about it.
I want me to think about what what do you
Dying soldiers always scream on the battlefield banana exactly as
(48:24):
chillingly brought to life and saving Private Rand tell my
wife banana. Yeah, so work smart and also safe. Words
aren't just for retirement home orgies, Miles, I know, why
did you take us to a retirement I'm just I
can only use what's in my wheelhouse. Okay, so that's
your kids retirement home orgies? Yeah? Used to I will not, no, please,
(48:46):
don't all right and finally right, not with a retirement
home orgy, Miles, I I gotta ask, is it a
vasileine situation? Because you you need that extra like the
fucking the Walgreens Lue bank. Man. You ever try skiing
in a rock warry. It didn't happen, bro God skiing
(49:09):
as you said that, and that is forever. Try skiing
in a rock warry? Holy shit, what a sick fuck anyway,
all right, I gotta go. Well, Robert, it has been
a damn pleasure having you. That's always a pleasure to
be here. Where can people find you? On the twitts
(49:32):
tweet box, the twitter at at at I right, okay,
uh And I have a podcast called Behind the Bastards.
It's a podcast never heard of bad people talk about him.
And also it could happen here about how it could
happen here said the war. Hey, it could happen. Remember
Mick Worlds from the nineties. Oh yeah, it could happen
(49:56):
because it's all the fantasies. Yeah, okay, yeah, I thought
you were singing the Guns and Roses Civil War song.
Oh no, talking about my racist dream of an Irish
takeover of the planet. Wow? What McWorld? O world? Racist
against my people, against all other people? Oh yeah against
(50:19):
I've support the McWorld. Okay, okay, Hey man, is there
a tweet you've been enjoying? Uh? No, all my tweets
are are depressing anyone else's tweets you've been enjoying? I
mean I did. I found that I love this one
from the Disney Channel. I found that video of the
newsroom where the guy says yeat and it breaks your
heart on on Twitter. Yeah, let's play that for people. Yeah,
(50:42):
let me just let for this day is real quick.
That is the thing on Twitter that had like it
hit me like a bullet. Yeah, and I know again
this is kind of we're talking about some heavy stuff.
But let me just allow you to take you away
to when people act like children and really relate to
the youth. Act what they assume children say having never
met one. Right, good morning TPS students, it is testing
(51:05):
week and it's time to slay all day. Stay well,
be on, get that Gucci breakfasts say by Felicia to
that testing stress, whether it's going to be turned right
Chris yes, tolto weather gonna be v lit during testing weeks?
A hundo p chance of success. You've got weather kids best?
(51:27):
How about that traffic we look at OK, we're talking,
won't be an issue. No traffic problems around any TPS
schools to keep you from taking those tests. It's like
you get a good night's sleep, do your best. In fact,
be extra extra. We hear at W T O l
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(51:51):
it's like if in a thousand years there were a
Renaissance fair themed after right now, people like my good
man on the Hello, what is poppington tonight, sir, I'm
gonna get turned tops? And I heard my man damn
(52:16):
coming up to me Tom about like, oh my god,
Jesus Scott Amandum shoot me. I'm at Twitter and Instagram.
My handles just took over. Maybe yeah, it makes some
serious your confidence. Yeah. No, at miles of Gray, Okay, okay,
(52:38):
admit it. That's what it was. Is there a tweeting? Yeah,
it was a couple tweets. I'll be like, let me
tell you about them. One of them, actually two of
them are both from at at Dan White. One is
just a photo of this dude on a like with
one of those water jet packs, like you know what
I mean, Like it's like water power jet packs, and
it's like an action shot of a dude just flying
through the air, and the caption around is like my
(53:00):
X steps On. Colton just texted me this photo of
my ex wife's new living boyfriend Sean and wrote Sean says,
what up? Don't respond? His image though, is stupid. And
another one from at and and White talk about toxic masculinity,
perfect weather for a cabin weekend, and I just spent
six hours on the couch with horrible stomach pains after
(53:22):
my brother and his friends convinced me to do a fartboll.
Just leave it there, Just leave it there, right where
it is. And I know this will be some of
you google search tonight. Yeah, you should give it a shot.
A couple tweets type and enjoying kim Bean's at Kimmy
Monte tweeted, if Fred Flintstone uses his feet to power
(53:45):
his automobile, then why doesn't he just walk to work?
He's basically just carrying his car everywhere. Damn. That really
fucked me up. Yeah, that fucking ruins my child. He's
really just doing doing a lot of work. I mean,
may be maybe that's what they had instead of like mans,
what about what about? What about? What if the whole
(54:05):
city is angled? Said? All of the roads are downhill
because on the way back, huh, how about the way
back you're gonna have to go up hill? Well yeah,
I mean that that that does present the problem. Or
there's just nomadic they just keep it moving. They're like,
so I don't go up hill, always downhill? Just leave
your ship over there. I know someone who won't turn
left in their car, So I feel like a whole
city my friends. Grandma, Yeah, shout out to nanny. She
(54:26):
used to not ever make left turns. It's smart and
would the safest way to drive, taking like seven right turns.
UPS has a rule that you can make left turns
as UPS trust driver if you are right, right right.
If you're driving with drugs, do not take left turns,
because there's it's almost impossible to take a left turn
in some ways that's not technically illegal with cause for
(54:46):
a topical. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, what are the other
ways I gonna get you from making a left turns?
I know the I know the one. I'm personal color,
but because it's kind of up to their discretion, because like,
you never have the right of way to negotiate. If
it's an arrow, you're good, but like if it's to negotiated, terry,
don't do alright. Hustler from Robert Evans Uh. You can
(55:07):
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your Yeah, we've mentioned that super editor Dan is doing
something to this episode to prank us rent in the
right in the butt na na, al right, don't don't
stick around until later where he leaves all of our bullshited.
Uh you know there are absolutely no Easter eggs after
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(56:15):
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were you to add it? And the smokes and then
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I was just a little I would do a dumpster
you know. Uh, I guess in one in one's when
uh a lot of these people need like they noticed
up um like like I just I don't I got
taken that yeah, and things like that. And that's when
(57:19):
let's listen to her you know. Uh that's that it's
very um or the the uh she I have the
other um that it doesn't take um because it's just like, uh,
you're don't don't you know now like that what what
(57:42):
I'm sorry? People talk about how could you know? They
think again, so so um terror you might know, I
don't um it's uh there what the various like outcomes are?
It's uh um doesn't uh like they would all? Uh
(58:08):
is it? Uh come? That is a literal nightmare. You
wake up before your alarm, No sunlight peaks through your window.
It's far too early for that. You're confused for just
a moment, and then you hear another explosion. It echoes
in the night, rattling the walls in the window of
(58:29):
your apartment. This is not the first bomb you've heard,
and it sounds far enough away that you know the
danger isn't a minute. That surprises you a little bit,
the fact that you recognized it's not close. You realize
you've now heard enough explosions to have a pretty good
ear for them, and when they're close enough to worry about.
It's weird how quickly life in a war zone becomes
just life. You get up. There's no sense trying to
(58:51):
get back to sleep. As you stumble over to the
kitchen to grind some coffee, you hear the crack of
rifle fire. It's distant, too far enough away that it
sounds almost like firecrackers, but you know it's not. You
feel the grinder, put on the top and press down.
Nothing happens. You realize, belatedly, in your sleep fogged brain
that the powers at again. You wonder which of a
dozen different rebel and insurgents groups in your state might
(59:14):
be responsible. You don't even bother to get at your
phone and check the news. It doesn't really matter, and
you've got shipped to do. It's still dark outside, and
since you're already up, you might as well take advantage
of the situation and beat the crowd to the grocery store.
As you close and lock your door behind you, you
try to ignore the pop and shatter of not so
distant gunfire. There are days when you do feel like
doing something, maybe even joining your friends, but most days,
(59:36):
like today, you've got shipped to do. It's an election year.
Every candidate is doing their level best to not call
this what it is, a civil war. You hear that
phrase out on the street, though more and more every day.
You reach a crosswalk and start to step across on
the left. Your eyes are drawn to the massive bulk
of a police bear cat as it trundles across the
street parallel to you. A man sits up top in
(59:58):
the couple up, his hands on a machine gun that
for now has its nose pointed up in the air.
He stares at you, and you try not to stare back.
As you hurry along to the supermarket, you ask yourself
the question you've asked almost every day for the last
three years, How did it get this bad? Did that
seem far fetched? You outlandish? And if so, let me
try to show you why the preceding passage might well
(01:00:20):
be reality. For millions of Americans startlingly soon if something
isn't done. The second American Civil War doesn't sound like
a crazy distant possibility to me, and it hasn't for
a while. I'm Robert Evans, and it's my job to
help you see what I see. Two thousand sixteen was
the first year I started seriously considering the possibility of
(01:00:40):
a second American Civil War. It was the year I
reported on the major protests surrounding the most contentious election
in modern American history. I was there at the r
n C in the d n C, and at both
I saw tremendous hatred on display. I also traveled to
a Rack in two thousand sixteen to report on the
siege of Mosle. But nothing I saw there, nothing I
saw anywhere that year, scared me more than watching Alex
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Jones speak on the first day of the r NC.
These are not liberals, as welcome to It could happen
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Hello the Internet. I'm welcome to season seventy six, episode
one of Dirt Daily Night Guy. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
you from the podcast where we take a deep dive
into Americans share consciousness. It's Monday, April first, two thousand,
nineteen April Fool's Day. Oh wow, whoa, I got you,
(00:23):
fucking got you. My friend used to just I think
he still does, just calls people and then says, got you, man,
fucking got you admitted. Uh uh, my name is Jack O'Brien. Okay,
I'll be jacking the Zike guyst again. All the doors
(00:44):
that opened up and opened up again, that is courtesy
of one Mitch Wheeler, and I'm thrilled to be joined
as always by my co host, Mr Miles grag Here
we go. I put on my chat, I put l
a on the mat. I was like ganging on the game.
(01:06):
They're gonna remember my name the Daily. We come with
the plame. I got the green by the sack, I
got the crunchy little rap. I'm us great. How about
that site gang site ganginging gang. That was a dirty
but I transitioned from a sap to dirt bike. Thank
you too. Michael Hill at meek slo m I c
(01:27):
s a l oh for that one. A sap dirt
bike could be a rapper like a rapper. Yeah, I
mean they funk with bikes out there. You remember what
was the past and the past over here. There's a
little a little rev up sound that actually said, yeah,
well wait, what is a dirt bike? I'm very confused. Yeah,
(01:49):
what we were saying? Your dirt bike the floor? Anyway,
I've always got dirt bikes in the office, pissing everywhere.
We're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by
the hilarious and brilliant writer journalist podcast host Mr Robert Evan.
(02:11):
How's it going to those aprifol jokes? He's all shook
from that April fool. Sorry, I just I have to
disagree with Myles about something, and so I was I
was a little bit reticent, but that was that was
clearly a chainsaw, not a dirt bike. That's just how
it sounded. Man, Yeah, what is that one? That's dirt bike? Okay, yeah,
(02:33):
weird tiny little dirt like an electric one that like
has like a little two gallon gasoline. Robert, will you
admit that I fucking got you? Yes, I did what
what happened exactly, dude up top bro, and by that
I mean give me a high five now, thank you?
(02:56):
Uh well, Robert, we're we're thrilled to have you on
and just being fascinating individual. You are the host of
the biggest hit podcast on this here network, Behind the Bastards,
and a new podcast called it Could Happen Here. Yes, yeah,
(03:16):
two podcasts, which is like having m hm uh nailed
it with Those are the sorts of comparisons you can hear.
If it could happen here. If Behind the Bastards is
like a fine Mercedes, it could happen here is like
a fine Mercedes that somebody shot with a rocket propelled grenade,
(03:39):
but not while you were in it, just while you're
watching from a safe distance. Yeah, it's true. No, it's uh,
it's fascinating. We're gonna talk about the subject matter a
little later on the show, and we're gonna get to
know you a little bit better, even sooner than that. First,
we're gonna tell our listeners just a couple of things
we're talking about today. We're gonna start off with little
(04:00):
fast food news. Sonic will be serving up Red Bull
Slushi's Taco bell maybe serving up Truro donuts. Yes, they're
testing that out. We're gonna talk about the story of
Cruella Divos because it continues. We're gonna talk about the
subject of Robert's new podcast, the possibility of a second
(04:23):
American Civil War that might look like, Yeah, to do
it for the kids, Yeah, you nailed it. We should
talk about that video, which is the local news. Yeah,
a local news team made a video for a bunch
of high school students. It seems like they were aimed
(04:46):
at high school students. Yeah, who are taking boards that week?
And holy shit. And then we're gonna talk some Game
of Thrones. But first, before you get to any of
that ship, Robert, I want to hear from you, what
is some thing from your search history that's revealing about
who you are? How to make dick candle? Nicey? How
to make your own dick into a candle? And that's
(05:08):
the goal, is how to like, how to like mold
it and like this put awake in the hole. It's
been like a lot of time with the doctors to
be it's a favorit kind of video. Yeah. Wait, so
you're trying to make a real penis impression taken any steps,
but I was curious about it how it's even made,
and so I've been looking into the process. Did you
(05:29):
see a penis candle and you're like, oh, no, I
can make one. It was just an idea. Sometimes when
I'm trying to fall asleep. That's usually when I do
stuff when I when I google things that aren't like
specifically related to my job, where it'll just be like,
I wonder, how would you do that. It's like when
I looked into how to make liquor out of blood,
Like that's that's what I google, like one thirty in
(05:49):
the morning when I'm trying to fall asleep, that you
can make liquor out of blood? Well, no, I was
just I wanted to know if you could, and I
found I found a discussion as to have it. I
want to know if you can you can out of
another human bodily functions. You can absolutely make liquor at
a poop. You can make liquor out of a lot
of things. Yeah, So hey, gang out there, keep trying,
(06:12):
keep trying shoot for the moon. So you just like
I just want to get a shoot for the poon
that I was trying to make that means something unfortunate incidence. Yeah,
really just trying to get into your mind, which is
a terrifying place to be. But you were just drifting off.
(06:35):
And then a candle shaped like a dick, like a
photo realistic dick. Like, what are we talking about? I
thought it would be funny to give as a gift
to like, particularly male friends and colleagues of mine, like
a candle that's just like my penis, but a candle,
Oh it's your penis. Yeah, that's what I was looking into.
You know, what would be involved in that process? Because
(06:56):
Christmas is just around the corner, um, and I figure
I should start like figure ringing that out now. And
I didn't learn much because I fell asleep had some
weird dreams, but I might get back into it. Well,
this is all fascinating stuff. What is something you think
is underrated cigarettes? Underrated cigarettes? I think not here first kids,
not for young people, not for like teens and millennials.
(07:19):
But I think we should really get the boomers back
on the cigarette train. Yea, we should really push the
cigarettes hard on the over forty crowd and just kind
of clear that out for cigarettes, they're good now, good
for you now, so that is a population control mechanism.
You're saying is I'm not about the population, It's more
about the next couple of elections, right right, Yeah, and
(07:43):
then it's fun. But we got to find a hook though,
if we're really going to get people like they're like,
I don't know if you saw this study at all,
I think we really drive. Wow, now we can't drive
because the ones that really needed don't believe in climate change.
This is tough. It's tough too. It's tough to figure
out the ad campaign. I feel like I think if
you said, if every cigarettes smoked brings Hillary Clinton closer
to death than people would smokes, an extra hundred and
(08:06):
fifty million cigarettes will indict Hillary Clinton. That's how we
fucking do it. Okay, I think we know how to
save this country. Guys. Yeah. If any generation is just
going to hang around way too long at the party, though,
I do think it's going to be the boomers, And
they've already puked on the floor, right if they didn't
(08:29):
clean it up or leave. I guess the seventies they
were all right. They got a good start. In the sixties.
There's a whole thing of like how grandparents were sort
of the boomer and slightly older generation the greatest generation
like that because a lot of people are not like
a lot of grandparents are having to enter childcare. That
it's like that's this other force that's completely hollowing out
retirement for for baby boomers and stuff. So yeah, well
(08:53):
a lot of people having to step in because sometimes
the parents. Man. Yeah, when you research a lot of
us to do with the opioid epidemic. Actually they say
that the millennials are actually closest to Greatest generation, like
in terms of just like being total ballers. Yeah, no,
just in terms of being more civic minded and like
socially minded. I remember when I wanted to walk with
(09:15):
some Nazis. Yeah, storms, what is something you think is overrated?
This ties into that video we were talking about the
TV news. I think it's a bad idea. I've come
to the conclusion that like, maybe there's no benefit to
daily TV news. Maybe it's it's or more toxic to
just like our national discourse and the whole country. Maybe
(09:36):
it's almost impossible to liver like like reasonable, well thought out,
accurate information in the format that TV news currently exists within.
What is it about TV? Because This is something like
I've seen really talented people have to like be forced
into a TV format and it's like they just like
funk it up something like they just make them worse
(09:58):
versions of themselves, like I've see. It's just like something
about TV that really doesn't work except for the Simpsons. Yeah,
it's the strict time constraints. I think that's part of it.
I think it's partly the ad supported thing, although you
know you have that with newspapers too. I think it's
like just the amount that they try to cover so
you can't like some subjects, like you're talking about the
(10:19):
fucking Syrian Civil War, there's nothing useful you can deliver
to people in thirty seconds, which is what you're going
to have. It's also this conventional wisdom that took over
that was just like no, you got yeah, you gotta
keep their eyes and brains buzzing, like with new changes
in bright flashing ship seconds. Wasn't that anecdote about Bill
(10:39):
Shine when he was working at Fox was just like
there was a fire at a building and he just
made all the coverage just about the fire and like
just show the fire to show that they want them out.
It's because it's really not about informing people, just about
how do you tap into their fears or yeah it's yeah,
it's one of those things like the fucking Momo thing
that like came like that was like a big TV
(11:01):
news thing. I don't think if like it was all
newspapers and online articles and stuff like, yeah, there would
have been some sensational bullshit, but like none of like
the legacy, like the legacy TV media ran with that
to an extent, like the New York Times. Any reporter
who's worth a salt who starts looking at that, it's
going to learn like twenty seconds, Oh this is nothing, right, Okay,
well that's the story that this is nothing. Yeah. I mean,
(11:21):
I think from a cultural perspective, Momo was interesting because
it was a monster face that you got to put
on something that really is out there and terrible, which
is like the children's entertainment on the internet is really fucked,
And so they were just like, yeah, oh that was
the thing that was allegedly a video that was convincing
(11:42):
kids to like murder their families, which is a thing
that people on YouTube have tried to do. It just
wasn't real with like Momo and nothing it wasn't a
weird Japanese art piece, nobody had been hurt or killed
or anything. But there is just not just heaps and
heaps of garbage that no exactly how to hypnotize two
year old and their parents are just like, yeah, here
(12:05):
you go, here's the smartphone. Yeah. That feeds into my
issue more than just TV news. It's just like the
amount of poison that people ingest via their eyes that
we're all just like, yeah, this is just the way
it is. Yeah, how else could it be? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, okay, Yeah,
your brain diet. We've talked before. We've we've talked before
about how like people think about their diet a little
(12:27):
bit more constructively now, but we should also be thinking
about our media diet. Yeah. I didn't think about like, yeah,
because I watched a lot of trash shows and I
realized too, like I'm mainlining just a lot of vapid conflict,
Like on its surface, the energy that's coming off the
screen is just negative. Yeah. That's why I was, like,
I was having starting to triage my garbage TV, and
(12:48):
I'm like I can't just keep giving it that, like
I have to balance it out with something because I
realized that I'm actually in the midst of an experiment
to see, like if I just only keep it to messes, Okay,
I like messy drama on a reality show, but ship
where just like people being like this person sucking sucks
and like that ship. I realized I'm like the more
I watched that subtly, I mean not that like I'm
(13:10):
I think I'm more stupid for only figuring this out
now or just sort of being aware of it. How
much that sort of can affect my mood a little bit,
even on a very subconscious level, even though I'm not
like fully buying into what I'm seeing, It's just that
that's what I'm giving myself. So you know, that's what
stood up. Then I watch you know, Bumpets and Ship. Yeah,
(13:31):
now I only watch Mr Rogers Neighbor Got to It
feels relaxing. Yeah, you know, but there's what you're giving yourself,
you know. Yeah, Like I I've noticed there are certain
podcasts that if I watch, I feel like you listen
to him? Uh No, I watched the Wow Just watch
(13:53):
the cursor sixth cents over here. There are certain podcasts
that if I listened to them, I will feel like
garbage after it's just yeah, it's the same thing as
fast food. It's just like you have to pay attention
to how different things you're putting into your brain like
you feel and like affect you. Because I went on
a streak of watching old Dateline episodes on YouTube like
(14:15):
like two years ago. It was all I was watching
for like like maybe three week period because I was
just like, yes, bro, more more. It had me fucking
all kinds of fun. Like I became a little more
susceptible to paranoia or just like or my confirmation bias
was a little more centered around like the really dark
ship and I was like, oh, yeah, because I'm just
eating that's what I'm eating. Yeah, I can say, like
(14:37):
people ask me all the time because behind the bastards,
I'm always reading about like terrible people, Like doesn't that
funk you up? And I joke about like yeah, so
I do a bunch of drugs. But the reality is
that like reading a good book about like a guy
like Hitler or a guy like Stalin or one of
these terrible people, that doesn't put me in a bad place.
If it's really good work, like it's it's it's edifying
you learn something, I feel better after it. I feel
(14:59):
bad on Twitter right in YouTube and stuff like those
make me feel like shit. Like nothing has convinced me
to go buy more guns than like bad Twitter benches
where I'm like, oh my god, everything's falling apart right
right right, And that is sort of your vice or
one of your that is definitely one. No gun buying,
I mean, shooting is a relatively healthy hobby. Consider it
(15:22):
like it's it's like a technical skill. You get out
of the house, you do something. Um, gun buying is
debatably healthy, but like the actual act of getting better
at a physical task, I think he's usually a good thing.
But the fact that like your backyard looks like that
bunker from terminator to that the people have been building up,
well you ready for the coming of They haven't found
(15:44):
the mailman. So technically no one can connect that to
anything I may or may not have fired on in
the night. Uh you know, there you go. I have
no idea what you're talking about. But what is a myth?
What something people think it's true? You know to be
false that you just have to let the cops arrest people.
You're about the story from Chicago were like to Chicago
PD officers wore trying to arrest this guy for drugs,
and all of his friends came out in the street
(16:06):
and forced them to let him out and give him
back his drugs. Don't. Yeah this like crowd surrounded these
cops and we're like, no where in fucking Chicago. I
think it was Chicago. Yeah, like Chicago, Like crowd forces
police to let suspect go or something like that. Should
bring it up. It just read about it like yesterday,
and uh yeah, I think people have this. That's the
(16:30):
version of the sovereign citizen thing that actually works. Yeah,
a horride of angry people being like no, guys like
this ain't happened today? Yeah, is it? I see it
on a Blue Lives Matter. Oh wait no, let me
go to the Chicago the Chicago Tribune. Yeah, drug suspect
escapes after group threatened Chicago couple. Right, get that fucking great.
(16:51):
They were searching for a drug suspect who escaped arrest
when a group of men threatened to harm the officer
taking him into custody on the city's most side. Wow. Yeah, Jesus,
just do that. Don't let him arrest your friends. Also,
don't get shot, don't get shot. But if there's more
of you than there are bullets, simple math. Wow. That
(17:11):
is so, I mean, had a great story. That's just
the kind of ship that you see in a movie
where I mean, look, I think they're just trying to
get this guy because they saw him do a little
hand to hand drug transaction and all part of the
drug war. People were not having that ship. And I
think it's great. It's like the end of training day.
You know. Yeah, he thought he could get keep bad
coping it out here, but his whole neighborhood was just
(17:33):
waiting for him. I'm kind calling you king, No, but
isn't there some where he's like shot and he's like,
you motherfucker, there's some Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's something great movie.
Let's talk about red bull slushes. He reminds me of
when I was interviewing for this job and you're like, oh, wow,
so I didn't know you'd like to get wet. Sure
he's smoking. I don't understand any of this guy. He
(17:59):
like forces Ethan Hawk to smoke fucking PCP and he
says it's some other ship when he smokes, Like what's
going on? He goes, I don't know you like to
get wet tricked him and his smoking uh. And then
on The Chappelle Show Wayne Brady episode two, Yeah we
should we should do an episode of the show on PCP. Yeah,
you know what, just just a side note and Derek,
(18:20):
I don't know if you remember Dare Uh and Dare
the cops would always be like, Man, PCP, I see people,
they're so strong. This guy lifted dumpster over his head
and threw it through a squad car. Can I tell
you since YouTube fucking came out, even live leak, I
have been searching for PCP Superman videos. Cannot find. The
closest I've come is that clip of the Bachelor jumping
(18:40):
over that sense Yeah, and that I don't think he
was on PCP. I think that was just pure embarrassment.
It's you know, that is PCP pure commitment phobia. And
that has been my time. There needs to be an
award for what you like, a trophy or something. It's
called my mom going still doing that? How's that? Working
(19:04):
on winning it fourteen years in a row? Now? Alright,
let's talk about Red Bull slushies. Sonic will start serving
them to young hungry males is apparently what the language
and if if we're going to serve this poison to
young people, why not try to get old people back
on cigarettes. That's all I'm saying. You red Bull slushes like,
(19:26):
oh wait, and your boomer, here's your pack of free
Marboro yeah, filterless reds uh so. Yeah, Apparently they're really
trying to what they say. There's like a so called young,
hungry male demographic that is the one that's is basically
the most loyal to like the fast food industry as
a whole, and they're realizing weight the caffeine heavy drinks too,
(19:47):
because a lot of people, if you're doing drive through
a long road trips or something, yeah, you maybe want
to pop in for a Red Bull slushy is the
one part that gets me a little odd or puts
me off a little bit. It's going to taste like cancer. Yeah,
that is the red Bull FLA red Bull already doesn't
taste pleasant to me, Like it's fine, it's palatable, but
it's not like I'm like, oh, it's medicine. It tastes
(20:10):
literally like medicine. Every Red Bull I've ever agreed to
drink has tasted like the only way in the scrip
is necessary. What about the ones you didn't agree to
drink because somebody water boarding with red Bulls? Oh yeah,
she actually just made us pound red bull and Vodkas.
It was Yeah. I used to drink the diet ones man,
(20:30):
and my chest would just be just rocking, rumping, the
umping up. I think that's a fun way to describe
a heart attack. It's only easy to drink if you've
just read something about climate change and then you're like, yeah,
why not something you're doing like metal blast beats with
your heart anyway. So this is kind of part of
(20:53):
the Sonics whole thing. They're doing what every other fast
food chain isn't doing, and they're leaning in the opposite
direction of health. Like everyone is down trying to be
like here's you know, we got wholesome ingredients or whatever.
Sonic is like, fuck that. Right now they have like
your health, yeah, funk your health. Fuck you were coming
for your throat And you don't come to Sonic because
you want to live long. Of course you can come
(21:14):
here to Sonic can get fucked in the hard anyway. Um.
So they because right now they have an all day
like bacon and fried egg top they called a brunch burger. God,
there's a double stuff Oreo waffle cone. They're working on
broccoli cheese tots. How is that not murder? I don't know.
But like when the vice president of when they asked
(21:38):
when they asked the vice president of product that Sonic
about it, he was like, I don't know why we
would do a salad, but we can do some tots.
And it's like, yeah, but I guess that's the thing
because prior to people you know, becoming we're fucking cholesterol
or sodium and ship fast food was a race to
the bottom, like who can make the wackiest fucking food,
who can fit the most foods in the smallest prey area.
(22:00):
And I think that's sort of on one side of it,
you have health conscious people, but then there are people
who are out here who absolutely love or why don't
you try, like me, the grossest stuff because that's the
fun and fest. It's it's for the rolling cold demographic,
the people who like modify their cars to put out
extra smog. That's that was my first job with Sonic,
at least I was there for a week before I
(22:22):
got a job at Barnes and Noble, and I never
even picked up my paycheck, Like it was so bad.
Sonic went to Barnes and Noble and you were one
of the roller skating waiters, right, No, no, I was
one of the commercials inside guys, it was it. Yeah,
just because working in fast food in general, Yeah, I
(22:43):
think it might be particularly bad. But in terms of
the quality of food or think transgressions you witnessed, it
was just inside of a sonic. You can't trick yourself
into thinking it's not poison because the smell is very
clearly poison Like the inside of a sonic smells like death,
like from aaldehyde. It smells like the inside of a sonic,
(23:04):
like active war zone smell less toxic, and you know
you've spent some time in the active war zone. I
prefer that sense you. Also, just briefly, Taco Bell is
testing out a truro doughnut that looks kind of delicious.
That's a great idea. That's a great idea. That's just
a palate cleanser for us going into the break because
(23:25):
I have something that we want to eat. I'll even
eat those cinnamon twists. Well, this seems like a doughnut
made of the cinnamon man, the caramel apple and Panada. Yeah,
no shade on Taco Bell. And you know what, in
a way, that's what I'm saying. I'm kind of take
my hat off to Sonic because they know there's a
group of people who are willing to go there, and
(23:45):
they're in Sonic is for those people. Yeah, unless they
want to give us a lot of money, in which
case Sonic is for everyone, is for the people. Alright,
we're gonna take a quick break. We'll be right back.
(24:05):
And we're back, and we spent the break superroducer on
a Hosnier informing Robert of where he could get a
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Candle proposes, Yeah, or bespoke Penis candles spoke Penis candles. Yeah,
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(24:27):
new box company. Every month a new different person's day
in just a different persons, not famous people. It's just
like great, here's a picture of him like on his
front porch, his hands Tis pro David from Coral Gables
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vcs out there. If you give us what six million, Yeah,
weird dicks of America like that would be a special series,
guys with kind of weird Dicks. Yeah, but what's weird?
You know what I mean? Yeah, Dick and the candling
process teaches us all that. Yes, uh, we mentioned the
(25:12):
Betsy Divos thing. But in addition to defunding special Olympics,
she also was testifying about her theory that fewer teachers
and bigger classes are actually a good thing. Yeah, because
all her budget, they're like, you're cutting so much money,
Like what, how do you explain this? And she was saying,
(25:34):
you know, like in her written testimony before she went
to go basically try and defend her hideous budget. Uh,
there was a quote from her written testimony said there's
no evidence that the federal taxpayer investments in existing professional
development programs or class sized reduction have meaningfully improved student outcomes.
And people were like, what, in fact, students may be
better served by being in larger classes if by hiring
(25:55):
fewer teachers, a district or state can better compensate those
who have demonstrated high ability, the and outstanding results. So anyway,
the chairwoman, I believe astor can you run me through
that again? And then asks for a thing that Republicans
aren't used to presenting, which is some kind of study
or facts to back up their assertion. In your testimony,
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you stated the following and I quote, students may be
better served by being in larger classes if by hiring
fewer teachers, a district or state can better compensate those
who have demonstrated high quality and outstanding results. Uh, and
U quote. This is contrary to decades of long standing
(26:36):
credible research, like the student teacher achievement ratio that actually
recommended on average student teacher ratio to be fifteen to one.
So what evidence based research do you have to back
your statement? Uh, well, that must be in my written testimony.
And I would just comment to the fact that given
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uh you know, given education freedom initiatives, Um, there are
different kinds of environments in which students learn well. Some
students can learn better with larger classes, with more students
to collaborate with to learn with other smaller de site.
What research you're using to make that there's there's plenty
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of research that will under undergird the fact that mandating
a specific class size doesn't deal results. I would be
happy to have if you submit a question for the record,
I will be happy to do do so. If you
said that's what she's asking right now, like way to come,
prepare to ask a question again? Eventually I will not
(27:43):
have it. Okay, I'm gonna have to punt on this on.
Can you just put it on a post it for
me and I'll come get it at the end and
I'll try and get back to you. But you know
that the idea that they're going to collaborate with that
you're like, what your other fucking eight year old friend
is going to teach you some ship that you didn't
know without the teacher. Yeah, but the teacher will be
so good and so well paid, but we're also cutting
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them if you don't need as much money because we're gosh,
it's you guys really aren't getting this? How this? Um? Yeah?
I guess the logic is get rid of the shitty teachers,
get the superstar teachers, give them their money, and then
let them teach seven kids at once, right, Yeah, just
a big school house. Go back to the days where
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it was one teacher and then the entire kids in
one room. Yeah, what you all doing over here? Hear
me out? Fellas, Oh boy, now that's skyping. Skype exists.
What if we find the best teacher, we pay them
a lot of money, and they just teach all the
kids one teacher, all the students, one teacher to rule them,
(28:46):
one teacher to rule them all. And then you just
have little like squadrons of kids who then teach each o.
You know what, Yeah, I bet si divos or like
I could be the one teacher because all they need
to know is that am Wai is a fan tacit
to make money and this is a great way for
you to become financially in the credible opportunity. I mean,
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I want to ask you this, ma'am um. You're a mother, right,
and you probably want to set a great example for
your daughter. What better way to than show her that's
your freedom isn't tied to your husband's and you can
do it with a fraction of the time investment that
your husband does putting in a forty hour week. I mean,
that's the type of ship Roberts, right. Kids, kids need
(29:28):
to be learning the important truth about an Amway and
that nonsense about the Second World War and how authoritarian
regimes arise and talking about slavery. Don't teach them about
that and not the opportunity is provided by Amway. Would
like to actually tell you about another form of slavery
that's being dependent on these other companies for your goods
(29:50):
when real emancipation proclamation is inside the hundred and fifty
dollar Amway starters. I like to call the am wastipation
pers Christ Hey, so yeah, emancipation proclamation. The Civil War, Yeah,
(30:10):
that was transition. Um, seems like I do want to
talk about the possibility of a second American Civil War.
This is the subject of your new podcast that could
happen here, which people can go subscribe to now on
their podcast listening platform of their choosing. But so can
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you kind of talk I mean, this seems like a
thing that I'm hearing more and more from, like people
on both sides of the divide, like talking about Okay,
I thought it was crazy a couple of years ago,
and now like I think it's less crazy basically. Um. Yeah,
And what one of the things that jumped out to
me in the first episode is just like some of
(30:56):
the audio you have of people on the right, Like,
I don't think people literally calling to murder their political animazing. Yeah, yeah,
it's it's it's pretty wild. Yeah that's a thing. Yeah,
so much kind of did it implicitly like a week
ago when he was saying that like the Bikers for Trump,
he has the Bikers for Trump and the military, and
(31:18):
if they pushed too far, they're gonna it's gonna be very, very,
very bad. And there's just a little story behind that.
When we were going through the drafts of the first episode,
I didn't initially have a lot in there about the
potential of the president calling on militias and his armed
supporters in order to keep him in power. And you
were like, you should talk a little bit more about that,
And I felt awkward writing it because I was like,
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this just seems like a step too far. And then
he said that, and then he did it. He said
it was like, oh, well, I guess I guess I
could just pop this all in. I guess what do
you say, right to people who are kind of like, Okay,
everything seems very stable, now, what is the road map
or what are the events that could possibly lead to it?
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Because I think the whole point of your show, right,
like the idea of that it could happen here is
that as Americans, we tend to think of civil wars
and things like that as things that are happening like
they're developing world or and just I mean, come on,
it's it's the US. Like you know, people people like
their shipped too much to try and fight each other
in the streets. But what are the I guess the
different versions because I think a lot of people think,
like is there going to be like coastal versus whatever,
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Like you know, like what are the divisions that you see?
It would be a bunch of different small groups popping
up in different chunks of the country, carrying out attacks
with the goal of making the country ungovernable, because that's
how war works. Now, that was essentially before they seized
a bunch of territory. Um. The sort of book that
isis is whole fucking thing was based off of that,
like led to the tactics that led to them seizing
an area larger than England in Syria and Iraq. It's
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a book called The Management of Savagery, and the idea
is that you don't try to oppose a national military
by just starting off by trying to raise an army
and fight it in the field like the South did
back in eighteen sixty one. You try to render the
country ungovernable so that order breaks down and then you
can seize control and like that actually works pretty well.
And I think the United States is in a situation
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where as stable and as much money as we have,
we also have a lot of ingredients that could lead
to a really ugly insurgency that could render the country ungovernable.
Like they try to think about, like how munch of
guys would air fifteens could fight the U. S. Military,
And like, my answer to that is what a fucking
Afghanistan and not think about Appalachia. Think about what a
couple of thousand guys who are really committed to fucking
with the government could do just in that one chunk
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of the country, And how hard it would be to
root them out, how much money it would cost, how
many civilians would die, What that would do to people's
faith in the federal government, their ability to trust it,
Like the repercussions that would have around the country, the
other groups that would inspire. They just arrested forty neo
Nazis in Florida with a rocket laundry, Like there's groups
of people who have that, like the the physical infrastructure
necessary if other people in the country were doing it,
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And yeah, I was just gonna say, if people were
talking about white supremacists as like a unitary block the
way they think about Islamic terrorists, then I feel like
they would sort of recognize them as a bigger danger
than than they are. But because the American media and
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the American brain has a tendency to just be like, oh,
a white terrorist, well that's one of clearly just a
random guy that happened, right exactly. It's always treated as
a as a one off instead of vanilla isis and
great great term. Wow, oh that's even y'all, Kata Yeah,
(34:46):
um oh, but we're here real quick though. I do
want to hear because, like you have some quotes in
here from people who like the right is openly saying
they will kill liberals if they try to impeach Trump.
And I think we have a clip of that. Yeah,
we have a clip of one of the more extreme
people on the right. Yeah, Alex certain, Mr Alex Joness,
(35:09):
you're trying to start the civil war with people. You're
taking our kindness for weakness. Do you understand the American
people will kill all of you if you want a
real war A seventeen seventy six. I'm not the one
that's called pro violence you're gonna get wrecked. Bads. I
don't want a war. I don't need some you know,
(35:29):
coming of age deal to kill a bunch of liberals.
I just can't. But I also feel like I'm in
dereliction of as a citizen of my duty not saying
we have to start getting ready for insurrection and civil
war in that instance? What are the sides the diametrically
opposed sides that Alex Jones like, is it liberals that
he's just thinking people with their MPR bags are gonna
(35:50):
just pull up and try and you know, bore him
to death with. I think he's talking about like the
potential of like what if they try to impeach President
Trump or try what if you know, they he voted
out of office and what surely the far right would
consider to be an illegitimate election. You know, I think
one thing even more than Alex Jones, because his popularity
is a little bit on the wayne, although he still
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speaks to hundreds of thousands of people every month. I
think one thing you have to really take seriously is
the growth of the Q and on conspiracy. The journalist
called Bill ben Collins, who's been covering it pretty heavily
who just posted pictures from outside of a Trump rally
where they were like a hundred someon people all in
Q regalia out there. And the easiest thing in the world,
Even more easier than finding Alex Jones talking about wanting
(36:31):
to kill liberals is finding Q and On fans talking
about wanting to murder people like wanting because they believe that,
like everyone against Trump is part of a vast pedophilic
conspiracy that's also like the reason why they're not rich.
Like it's it's this whole multifaceted weird cult, but like
it's growing, it's not stopping, it's spreading outside of the
United States. I have friends in London who are talking
(36:53):
to me about seeing fucking more que stuff at protests,
Like it's this this new kind of cult that like
we haven't really dealt with before, where there's like no
head and no organization, but like these groups of people
radicalizing each other. I just found my neighborhood papered and
like Q and On flyers um, Like it's fucking scary um.
(37:13):
And I will guarantee you all of those people own guns. Yeah,
well not I think we even I don't know if
we spoke about it. But there was that one Q
and On conspiracy theorist who was really getting frazzled over
the lack of arrests that were happening because they were like,
we were promised like things were going to happen, and
and her worry was like, if I'm afraid, if these
(37:35):
arrests don't come, we're gonna have to go and knock
down John Podesta's door. So they think that Robert Mueller
is going to come in and arrest was able to
definitely these people, and John podest is part of it.
I think that's what they're saying. Like, so she was saying,
if Robert Muller doesn't start arresting the Clintons and the
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Obama's and John Podesta not, I will therefore realize my
conspiracy theory is insane. It is I will then have
to go start killing people myself. It's like that guy
who blocked one of the numerous now terrorists or attempted
terrorist attacks that almost ended in bloodshed was a guy
who like parked his armored vehicle on the Hoover Dam
(38:17):
filled with guns and tried to block off access to
the Hoover Dam until President Trump unleashed the sealed indictments
he believes exists, and the President retweeted one of these
people a couple of days. It wasn't about a Q
and on thing, but it was a and it's like
that was on that weekend where you like, he's playing
with buddy. Did you just not notice it? Or are
you fucking playing with something really goddamn dangerous? Like I
(38:38):
don't I don't know what that dude, right. No, I
think he is perfectly willing to like create a huge
civil war sized conflict or like you know, a civil
insurrection if he thinks it's an existential issue regarding his
claim to power. And I really think I mean Michael
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Cohen during his testimony specifically said he does not think
there's any chance that there will be said, give my
experience working for Mr Trump, I fear that if he
loses the election in that there will never be a
peaceful transition of power. Yeah, I mean, who knows him
better than that? And like, I don't know, that's a
(39:23):
thing to be scared of. And it's part of were
when people like Elizabeth Warren says stuff like I don't
know even know if will be a freeman because it's
like like fucking Nixon, I'm sure he deserves to be
in prison, but like that's why we don't do that
in this country. We don't. We don't jail or even
when they commit crimes. And like you can argue that
maybe we ought to, but also like part of why
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we don't is because that's why we've had so many
peaceful transitions of power, because we know we're not going
to go after you even if you do commit a
bunch of war crimes. Like that's just and like it's
fucked up, but maybe maybe it's better than having all
the civil wars that the Romans he us to have
when they would do ship like that. Like I I
don't know, but there's an argument to be made. And
(40:05):
like I think everyone, like right now, we're all hanging
out and like a warehouse filled with gasoline soaked rags,
and everybody's playing with matches and yelling at everybody else
we're playing. Stop playing with matches, as they like, as
they together, Hey, you stop it, right, So yeah, and
you get into a lot more detail, and like you
(40:25):
know what the various versions of a civil war could
look like in America, because it wouldn't look like you've
spent time in active war zones in other countries, and
it doesn't look like one side versus the other, right, No,
I mean mostly it just looks like a bunch of
people trying to go about their day and sometimes things explodes. Explodes, yeah,
and like or that, you're just there's always shooting going
(40:46):
on nearby, and you're just like, well, it's been pretty
nice in my neighborhood for a while. I hope that continues.
I gotta go pick up ship from the store, like yeah,
Like it's just life for most people. And like, unless
you've got some sort of like hardcore plan and desire
to go go out shooting, like most people will probably
just try to keep their ship together, like keep your
eyes low, yeah, don't make a big thing and hope
(41:07):
it ends um, which is why so many civil wars
and with a dictator in charge, like in Syria, where
eventually enough people are like I just wanted to be over,
Like yeah, they're like find this guy promised no more shooting. Yeah, right. Look,
when I listened to the episode the trailer, I was
freaked the funk out. I mean not because it's a
very very troubling idea to try and have to wrestle
(41:30):
with that, like that level of instability and violence could
actually just break out in the United States and your
I know your intention is not to freak people out
of just be necessarily fear monger me, but I think
it's it's a what is sort of your goal? I
think in presenting people with this information, I'm trying to
think of it's sort of like a like a vaccine
in the hopes that like if you if you talk
about this enough and get this out enough to people
(41:51):
and like get this idea in people's heads of like
how much of it and rather than just talk about
a civil war and like this like yeah, and you
should buy you should buy this, you should buy that.
It's like this sort of ask orational thing which has
been on the far right for a while. You talk
about how much it would suck, exactly what would happen,
exactly how difficult it would be to contain once it
gets started, and when like at the end, like the
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last episode is going to be trying to talk about
the concrete actions people can take try to make it
less likely, Like the goal of this is to inform
people of the danger, Like it's not fearmongering in the
way that like if I see that you're looking at
your phone while you're driving and you like turn a
corner and are headed towards a wall, if I say, Miles,
there's a fucking wall, Like that's the goal, Like, that's
the goal is to be like, there's a fucking wall
(42:33):
out there, and like maybe maybe look at the wall
and see if about see about pumping them brains, because
I think that's sort of the the effect it has
is because it's sort of you're able to sort of
concretely see what a reality like that could look like,
and we already do I think as Americans you try
and not to ever entertain that because it's just a
(42:53):
chilling thought. But when you look at sort of the
kind of rhetoric that's happening, it's something definitely that like
people have increasingly become you know, afraid of, especially with
the increased number of like violent attacks and the sort
of ideology of the of these people. Uh, I mean,
the the idea that this is kind of a first
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time that somebody is really bringing up the possibility of
a second American Civil War in like sort of center
to left media is like not first time anyone's bringing
it up, but really, like it was about that cracked artist. Yeah,
but this is something that has been talked about on
the right constantly four years and years since I was
(43:36):
fucking eighteen and going to gun shows in Texas, like
they have only thing people they've been horny for a
civil war for so long. So that's also something that
your show helped me realize. And it's it's a real
win win for me from a content creator standpoint, because
if there is a civil war, then I'm I'm the
guy who called it, and if there's not a civil war,
then I get to take credit for their not being
a civil war. I saved everybody's lives. So it's really
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it really works out great for me one way. Also
the one who's most well prepared, since you have that
stash of heavy artillery, I'm gonna say, I'm sorry, Robert,
but like, if there is no civil war, I'm gonna
have to give that up to Kendall Jenner. Yeah, she
did hand that cop of PEPSI And I'm just saying,
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and I know you might want to point to this
podcast is maybe being there, but I see that as
the real image Llians in like fred years and that's
the point at which Earth began to heal. We're like,
we're worshiping a golden statue of Kendall Jenner and the
Pepsi commercial that did change things, man, Like, when can
you picture the Pepsi like ad executives talking like thinking
(44:43):
about like twenty years from now. Man, this is gonna
be a moment. This is gonna gonna be water. It's
like when Apple stopped Night four from happening in nineteen
eighty four by doing that at a commercial nine, we
broke the funk out. Yeah, Unfortunately, smartphones have aaved us
and made us completely impervious to authoritarian oversight and so happy,
(45:04):
super super cool utopia they brought us. Yeah, super cool utopia.
Your next podcast. All right, we're gonna take a quick break.
We'll be right back, and we're back. And a couple
(45:25):
of interesting details from the Game of Thrones from behind
the scenes. Uh yeah, if you if you've watched Game
of Thrones, you know there's some pretty intense battle scenes
that are yeah, narn kind of on par with movies
like Gladiator, Brave Heart, Lord of the Rings, except uh
(45:49):
not like Braveheart. When in the background you can see
the guys faking and like, yeah, there's a great one
where like cuts faw. Yeah. Yeah, it's like they heard
someone yelled cut or something, so they like like like
they're just dicking around. I mean, look, it's hard to
get fucking what like hundreds of actors on the same page,
(46:12):
especially in a battle scene. Well, I think that's what's
kind of interesting at those Game of Thrones ones, is that.
I mean we've heard, you know, little things from the set, uh,
and remarkably it doesn't seem like a horribly injury riddled set.
I mean, I'm sure there are injury but like you know,
for example, like a gladiator, right, Russell Crowe like broke
his entire body. He lost all feeling in his right
(46:33):
forefinger for two years because of a sword fight thing
that went wrong. He aggravated and achilles tendon injury. He
broke a footbone, cracked his hip bone, popped a few
bicep tendons out of their sockets. He was fucked up
from these scenes. And you know, like the good scenes,
they look intense and it's a great Pigo Mortenson the
(46:53):
same thing and the first load of the rings and
like he screams out but it kind of works in
the scene because they're because what they lost, Like it's
right after Boromere dies, right like kicks it and yelps
a couple of weeks of filming is what they lost. Yeah,
the producer over here they were falling behind mention. So
(47:18):
we find out from the stunt coordinator. Like Game of Thrones,
they basically, like any risky situation involving many people, like
a massive battle scene or retirement home orgy, they use
safe words to make sure that nobody has hurt because
a lot of these scenes, you know, people like like
it's just chaos, but they have a little safe word.
So according to one of the stunt coordinators, Raleigh Erlam,
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they said that they keep the set safe by using
a safe word. When we're doing these battles and people
are screaming and crying and dying, you might not know
if someone's in trouble, he explains, So our safe word
has always been banana. So if someone started shouting banana
at the top of their voice, you know they're in trouble.
So someone just having to listen out like like set
medics and like the A D or whatever. Just like
(48:03):
that's interesting because that might be an insight that bananas
don't exist in the Game of Thrones universe, because like, otherwise,
why wouldn't they be saying banana if you're staying in
care I mean, I think it's just more to signal
to the crew they know, but like, think about it.
I want me to think about what what do you
Dying soldiers always scream on the battlefield banana exactly as
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chillingly brought to life and saving Private Rand tell my
wife banana. Yeah, so work smart and also safe. Words
aren't just for retirement home orgies, Miles, I know, why
did you take us to a retirement I'm just I
can only use what's in my wheelhouse. Okay, so that's
your kids retirement home orgies? Yeah? Used to I will not, no, please,
(48:46):
don't all right and finally right, not with a retirement
home orgy, Miles, I I gotta ask, is it a
vasileine situation? Because you you need that extra like the
fucking the Walgreens Lue bank. Man. You ever try skiing
in a rock warry. It didn't happen, bro God skiing
(49:09):
as you said that, and that is forever. Try skiing
in a rock warry? Holy shit, what a sick fuck anyway,
all right, I gotta go. Well, Robert, it has been
a damn pleasure having you. That's always a pleasure to
be here. Where can people find you? On the twitts
(49:32):
tweet box, the twitter at at at I right, okay,
uh And I have a podcast called Behind the Bastards.
It's a podcast never heard of bad people talk about him.
And also it could happen here about how it could
happen here said the war. Hey, it could happen. Remember
Mick Worlds from the nineties. Oh yeah, it could happen
(49:56):
because it's all the fantasies. Yeah, okay, yeah, I thought
you were singing the Guns and Roses Civil War song.
Oh no, talking about my racist dream of an Irish
takeover of the planet. Wow? What McWorld? O world? Racist
against my people, against all other people? Oh yeah against
(50:19):
I've support the McWorld. Okay, okay, Hey man, is there
a tweet you've been enjoying? Uh? No, all my tweets
are are depressing anyone else's tweets you've been enjoying? I
mean I did. I found that I love this one
from the Disney Channel. I found that video of the
newsroom where the guy says yeat and it breaks your
heart on on Twitter. Yeah, let's play that for people. Yeah,
(50:42):
let me just let for this day is real quick.
That is the thing on Twitter that had like it
hit me like a bullet. Yeah, and I know again
this is kind of we're talking about some heavy stuff.
But let me just allow you to take you away
to when people act like children and really relate to
the youth. Act what they assume children say having never
met one. Right, good morning TPS students, it is testing
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week and it's time to slay all day. Stay well,
be on, get that Gucci breakfasts say by Felicia to
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won't be an issue. No traffic problems around any TPS
schools to keep you from taking those tests. It's like
you get a good night's sleep, do your best. In fact,
be extra extra. We hear at W T O l
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(51:51):
it's like if in a thousand years there were a
Renaissance fair themed after right now, people like my good
man on the Hello, what is poppington tonight, sir, I'm
gonna get turned tops? And I heard my man damn
(52:16):
coming up to me Tom about like, oh my god,
Jesus Scott Amandum shoot me. I'm at Twitter and Instagram.
My handles just took over. Maybe yeah, it makes some
serious your confidence. Yeah. No, at miles of Gray, Okay, okay,
(52:38):
admit it. That's what it was. Is there a tweeting? Yeah,
it was a couple tweets. I'll be like, let me
tell you about them. One of them, actually two of
them are both from at at Dan White. One is
just a photo of this dude on a like with
one of those water jet packs, like you know what
I mean, Like it's like water power jet packs, and
it's like an action shot of a dude just flying
through the air, and the caption around is like my
(53:00):
X steps On. Colton just texted me this photo of
my ex wife's new living boyfriend Sean and wrote Sean says,
what up? Don't respond? His image though, is stupid. And
another one from at and and White talk about toxic masculinity,
perfect weather for a cabin weekend, and I just spent
six hours on the couch with horrible stomach pains after
(53:22):
my brother and his friends convinced me to do a fartboll.
Just leave it there, Just leave it there, right where
it is. And I know this will be some of
you google search tonight. Yeah, you should give it a shot.
A couple tweets type and enjoying kim Bean's at Kimmy
Monte tweeted, if Fred Flintstone uses his feet to power
(53:45):
his automobile, then why doesn't he just walk to work?
He's basically just carrying his car everywhere. Damn. That really
fucked me up. Yeah, that fucking ruins my child. He's
really just doing doing a lot of work. I mean,
may be maybe that's what they had instead of like mans,
what about what about? What about? What if the whole
(54:05):
city is angled? Said? All of the roads are downhill
because on the way back, huh, how about the way
back you're gonna have to go up hill? Well yeah,
I mean that that that does present the problem. Or
there's just nomadic they just keep it moving. They're like,
so I don't go up hill, always downhill? Just leave
your ship over there. I know someone who won't turn
left in their car, So I feel like a whole
city my friends. Grandma, Yeah, shout out to nanny. She
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used to not ever make left turns. It's smart and
would the safest way to drive, taking like seven right turns.
UPS has a rule that you can make left turns
as UPS trust driver if you are right, right right.
If you're driving with drugs, do not take left turns,
because there's it's almost impossible to take a left turn
in some ways that's not technically illegal with cause for
(54:46):
a topical. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, what are the other
ways I gonna get you from making a left turns?
I know the I know the one. I'm personal color,
but because it's kind of up to their discretion, because like,
you never have the right of way to negotiate. If
it's an arrow, you're good, but like if it's to negotiated, terry,
don't do alright. Hustler from Robert Evans Uh. You can
(55:07):
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your Yeah, we've mentioned that super editor Dan is doing
something to this episode to prank us rent in the
right in the butt na na, al right, don't don't
stick around until later where he leaves all of our bullshited.
Uh you know there are absolutely no Easter eggs after
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gonna do it for today. We will be back tomorrow
because it is a daily podcast and we will talk
to you guys. Ben bye, I love you, you love me.
We're uh happy family with a great thing and the
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kiss from me T want you say dirt. Daily's Eyed
guys to um u um uh excuse me? Uh what
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were you to add it? And the smokes and then
looking with your all of like about a part. Uh
I was just a little I would do a dumpster
you know. Uh, I guess in one in one's when
uh a lot of these people need like they noticed
up um like like I just I don't I got
taken that yeah, and things like that. And that's when
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let's listen to her you know. Uh that's that it's
very um or the the uh she I have the
other um that it doesn't take um because it's just like, uh,
you're don't don't you know now like that what what
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I'm sorry? People talk about how could you know? They
think again, so so um terror you might know, I
don't um it's uh there what the various like outcomes are?
It's uh um doesn't uh like they would all? Uh
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is it? Uh come? That is a literal nightmare. You
wake up before your alarm, No sunlight peaks through your window.
It's far too early for that. You're confused for just
a moment, and then you hear another explosion. It echoes
in the night, rattling the walls in the window of
(58:29):
your apartment. This is not the first bomb you've heard,
and it sounds far enough away that you know the
danger isn't a minute. That surprises you a little bit,
the fact that you recognized it's not close. You realize
you've now heard enough explosions to have a pretty good
ear for them, and when they're close enough to worry about.
It's weird how quickly life in a war zone becomes
just life. You get up. There's no sense trying to
(58:51):
get back to sleep. As you stumble over to the
kitchen to grind some coffee, you hear the crack of
rifle fire. It's distant, too far enough away that it
sounds almost like firecrackers, but you know it's not. You
feel the grinder, put on the top and press down.
Nothing happens. You realize, belatedly, in your sleep fogged brain
that the powers at again. You wonder which of a
dozen different rebel and insurgents groups in your state might
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be responsible. You don't even bother to get at your
phone and check the news. It doesn't really matter, and
you've got shipped to do. It's still dark outside, and
since you're already up, you might as well take advantage
of the situation and beat the crowd to the grocery store.
As you close and lock your door behind you, you
try to ignore the pop and shatter of not so
distant gunfire. There are days when you do feel like
doing something, maybe even joining your friends, but most days,
(59:36):
like today, you've got shipped to do. It's an election year.
Every candidate is doing their level best to not call
this what it is, a civil war. You hear that
phrase out on the street, though more and more every day.
You reach a crosswalk and start to step across on
the left. Your eyes are drawn to the massive bulk
of a police bear cat as it trundles across the
street parallel to you. A man sits up top in
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the couple up, his hands on a machine gun that
for now has its nose pointed up in the air.
He stares at you, and you try not to stare back.
As you hurry along to the supermarket, you ask yourself
the question you've asked almost every day for the last
three years, How did it get this bad? Did that
seem far fetched? You outlandish? And if so, let me
try to show you why the preceding passage might well
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be reality. For millions of Americans startlingly soon if something
isn't done. The second American Civil War doesn't sound like
a crazy distant possibility to me, and it hasn't for
a while. I'm Robert Evans, and it's my job to
help you see what I see. Two thousand sixteen was
the first year I started seriously considering the possibility of
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a second American Civil War. It was the year I
reported on the major protests surrounding the most contentious election
in modern American history. I was there at the r
n C in the d n C, and at both
I saw tremendous hatred on display. I also traveled to
a Rack in two thousand sixteen to report on the
siege of Mosle. But nothing I saw there, nothing I
saw anywhere that year, scared me more than watching Alex
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Jones speak on the first day of the r NC.
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