In this edition of Tale As Old As Zeit, Jack and Miles discuss Rachel Maddow being too SCARED to debate Madison Cawthorn, Maya Angelou being the first Black woman featured on the US quarter, Kool Moe Dee's rapper report card, Reese Witherspoon's predictions for the future of the metaverse, the Brooklyn student walkout, and United reporting no COVID deaths after vaccine mandate.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of Tailors
Old Desight. That that that dut and trend the right
we did it? We go really did it? Johnny d
(00:20):
John Big d Avis, rent a car, get them why
you can on the discord you are Miles, I am Jack.
These are some of the trending on this Tuesday, January eleven.
Rachel Maddow was trending, Yeah, depends on depends on what
(00:40):
version of the Internet you're on. UM, if if I
think it's better to first of all, look, this is
what happened. I'm a producer. I think somehow Madison Cawthorne,
the the congress person from North Carolina who's just a
pile of shit with the worst opinions on earth about everything,
UM got somehow saw an email. All that was from
(01:01):
a producer at Madow where they were discussing him potentially
being on the show to like talk about, you know,
his hand in the insurrection and maybe that might you know,
invalidate his ability to run for office. UM and they
voiced concern worry over having him on because he is,
like he's in the same category as your Marjorie Taylor
(01:21):
Green or Bobert Gates you know that that whole thing.
So he took that as spun then like, yo, they're
shoot man, they don't want they don't want your boy
Maddie car on the fucking Madow Show just fucking pone
in her because he thinks it's like a debate style thing. Uh,
kind of questioning her educational background. Now, look, did he
(01:43):
really like straight up asking like questioning her educational background?
There is I gotta find this tweet. There's something about
like your your wits or something. It's not like you know, uh,
she can't stand stand up up to my own my
my battle of wits, my sharp sharp as attack exactly.
(02:04):
And I mean, look, it's it's a mere speculation of
just being like, yo, she's terrified or whatever, and many
people have pointed in fact, it's like, sir, then look,
you no shade to people who drop out of school,
because you do what you gotta do. But if you're
gonna start talking about like measurable things like calling out
people's education, you may want to at least enter that
(02:27):
fight with some training and so you can at least
point to a useless piece of paper on your wall
to say, yeah, I did that thing. Also. But you didn't.
And also she's a fucking Rhodes scholar. Uh, I don't
know if that the terror isn't necessarily that you are
going to best her in a debate. Um, although many
people on the right are like being like, yo, she
can't handle it, dude, she can't handle the conservative talking points,
(02:51):
as Lewen Lauren Bobert said, right, I mean I would
guess that there are plenty of people who didn't graduate
from high school who could own a many a Rhodes
scholar in a like TV debate for sure, Like, um,
I don't think Rhodes scholar makes you necessarily good TV.
(03:13):
And no, no, but I mean if you're if you're
narrowly going to just talk about edge whatever education means
in the form of like measuring your intelligence, Like don't
just ye just say she's uh fucking lib I'm more
interested in uh, you know. He he is going through
the end of his marriage after eight months, and the
(03:34):
story of how he met his wife, the person who
introduced him to his wife sounds a lot like he
is being approached by a Russian intelligence operative. Like he
was overseas and in a Russian casino and was like
approached by somebody he didn't know, and like that somehow
(03:57):
led to him getting invited to a CrossFit competition in Florida,
where he ended up meeting his wife. But the CrossFit competition,
according to him, was actually made up and was just
a set up so he could meet his wife, which
feels like not a thing that typically happens unless you
(04:19):
are like part of an intelligence agency, like faking a
a large event in order to introduce a powerful person
too a romantic partner. Seems I don't know. He he
the way he tells the story, it seems like he
thinks that's normal, um, and like he has just sort
(04:40):
of digested as an adorable thing they did because they
were like such a perfect fit. I don't know, man.
It's an interesting thing because a lot of people point
to the fact that in two thousand nine, like Russia
actually banned casinos. So for you to do that, it's
a it's a it's a smoky operation at best gangster ship.
(05:03):
It's not. It's you're not going to Harrah's because they
deaded that in two thousand nine. So yeah, it is
interesting where you're like, hey, man, come over to St. Petersburg.
My name is Todd I was in the army. Hey, man,
you just come to this fake CrossFit tournament. I don't
I'm not really in the CrossFit. No, you gotta come, man,
it's gonna be sick. It's in Miami. Bro, you're scared. No, man,
(05:25):
ain't scared. All right, hopes on you. I just wanted
to meet this this lady who I wanted to set
you up with, and you'll get married and divorce after
eight months. I don't know. I mean that also sounds
like some shit, some shitty married shit. Also, like some
dude introduced you to someone at a fake car, Like, yeah,
there's some red flags. Uh, you know, plant or not
(05:47):
to be Like what the funk are you? What is it? Yeah? Anyways,
Mattel maddest fun for the ages. Also, like, I can't
imagine two people I want to see debate exactly. You Like,
he's not gonna say anything interesting, She's not going to
say anything. I'm not interested in. Yeah, I'm not interested
(06:07):
in seeing her debate at all. I'd like someone who's
maybe has a slicker mouth, you know, just gonna we'll
fight fire with fire. But anyway, it doesn't matter because
those are only for the debate obsessed. Yeah, um my
Angelou is trending. Oh no, what happened? Fuck uh? The
(06:33):
US has begun shipping quarters featuring her image. They're the
first in a series of quarters honoring American women that
runs through Um. Wow, this makes her the first black
woman on a US quarter. Wow, how about putting how
about putting some non white guys on the bills? Yeah?
(06:56):
You know that, man, wasn't that gonna be a thing
with Harry Tummy tupman? Yeah? And then we just were like,
you know what, get fucking that modern American terrorists. Andrew
Jackson on there? Keep him there. People don't know the
(07:16):
trailer tears anyway, they're gonna stop teaching it pretty soon.
And Andrew Jackson is going to be like the most
moderate politician we've seen in that area or something. Yeah,
I could definitely see a future of like American education
if you know what, what's his name has his way,
Steve Bannon and his movement like takeover where they're just
(07:37):
like only people you need to know from history or
the presidents on the money and here's how much they
kicked ass. It's like, yeah, it's definitely like one of
those Yeah, you can I don't know, it's just a
very slippery slope. Um. But it feels like those things
where like I hear kids talking about hip hop and
(07:59):
like their hip hop consciousness begins in like two thousand five,
and they're like really getting in the nitty gritty and
then like they'll say stuff they're like, man, I don't know,
Biggie's like overrated, and you're like, like the funk are
you talking about? Child? Then it rap. That's when right
exactly like Little Zan has fucking bars, dude, We're pretty
(08:23):
soon like we're gonna have to be hearing takes from history,
like from younger people being like honestly like the Northern
War of Aggression, like really like kind of like we're
feeling the reverberations of that today right straight up. Well,
speaking of the old school takes on hip hop, yes,
there's the image that's kind of making the rounds Uh.
(08:45):
It is cool MODI sort of early rapper um, back
in the day when rap was not It's not my
favorite era rap. It sounds a little nursery rhymey to me,
but but you know there was the early days. You know,
we're still forming the amend that is him. He made
a report card for rappers. Um, and you know he's
(09:07):
got some spicy takes on here. Um, some really smart
ones too, was the question. I was just about to
try and figure it out. It was in the nineties,
December one, so that explains some things. Uh, for instance,
Nas instead of having an A plus as a B
(09:29):
because I guess like that was after he had dropped,
like his I mean it was written is out at
that point. No, it was written was out for sure,
but I'm assuming he is like taking into account like
what they're releasing currently, right, I guess, because you're gonna
have Illmatic. Then it was written, Oh you know what
(09:52):
it was I Am? Yeah, it was right after I
It was the year that I Am came out and
n did Nastro Damas also come out that year too? Yeah?
I think so. So he had he dropped because that
was when we realized, oh, he's in a bad record
contract and he's just trying to drop as many albums
as possible because God's son. He came back. Okay, I
(10:13):
see that it's stillmatic. I mean, yeah that was. Yeah,
he was definitely recovering, so he gets to be what
else I mean, the other pretty surprising one is jay
Z is at a B. Well, also, what's the skill,
like what they's what he's scoring on? Right? The categories,
all right, So we got vocabulary, we got articulation, we
got creativity, we got originality, we got versatility, we got voice,
(10:37):
we got records, we got stage presence, we got sticking
to themes and innovating rhythms. I mean those are great,
great categories like JA and he's pretty you know, jay
Z has a ten on records because he was dropping
great records and that Yeah, he fucked he got he
(10:57):
his lowest score came for stage presence. I don't disagree
jay Z is not the most dynamic performer in person um,
so like I'm six is a little harsh. I mean,
obviously DMX gets a ten for stage presence. I mean
we could, we could honestly do a two hour podcast
about this. It's very interesting because I'm also stuck in right,
(11:19):
so i I'm like remembering everything very bit like okay,
well this or it's right not damas and I am
came out most deaf. Yeah, the little couple of couple
of errors here. Corrupt young Attie has spelled like the
word like corrupt like corrupt police um not. I love
his A plus for Lauren Hill and Biggie, They're the
(11:42):
only A plus is on the yeah, and then Tupac
gets a. My my most questionable A has to be
Tretch from from Naughty by Nature like for sure, his
delivery was unique and like he was good at like
kind of I think, yeah, New Yorkers, all New Yorkers
(12:02):
fun with Tretch though, you know, especially rappers, like I
feel like is like a rappers rapper like, I'm certainly
not checking for Tretch, but I've one thing I've consistently
I feel like I hear from other rappers is like
they funk with Tretch, and maybe that's where it is.
I'm like, I'm okay, I mean here we feel me
flow now, holle if you hear me, Okay, there's there's that.
(12:24):
Buster Rhymes also got A though I think that's correct
stage presence buster Buster or muster Buster Keaton actually something
about um rae Kwon B plus common B plus raz
cas B plus. I mean, let's be real. The lowest
(12:47):
scores on here a master P and Mace and too
short that's fucked up short as a performance artist. Okay,
master P come on now he's I guess that's the
problem is like we of the we have the long
view of history to look at these and be like,
I don't know, but what I guess around here you
got make him saying uh, and like was it with
(13:08):
the Last the Postman? Was that that album that he
had come out that year? I don't know what all
I know when I lived in Kentucky, Master P was
the only rapper that mattered to most of the people
I went to school with. Oh no, it was The
Last Dawn came out ninety eight. Yeah, so I think
that was the closest album to that one. And yeah,
(13:30):
I feel you like the Last Dawn if you weren't
really working with because Ghetto d was the one that
had made him saying, but that was out already by
this point. Yeah, yeah, I guess. But you know, I
don't know if people were hating on that ship too,
because that's when the South was coming up and people
were like, like outcast isn't on here, even though they were. Yeah,
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probably the most important people making rap music at that time,
with the possible exception of Lauren Hill, even though she
wasn't actively making but she was just right I mean,
not that he really needs to be, but I'm curious
what he thought a white cleft. If he's like, well,
Lauren is against the nineties seven out of a hundred,
what does white cleft get? I mean, this is right
(14:13):
after a Quemini and he doesn't have Outcast on here. Yeah,
I wonder if that's what back because remember back then,
everyone's like, I mean, actually, no five, Mike still meant
something in the source back then. Oh yeah yeah, Outcast
was like the that's a conspicuous O mission for sure,
unless I'm just missing it or he misspelled it. But
(14:33):
because yeah, because how many West Coasters we have here?
Who got snoop corrupt mac ten mac ten too short cube?
But they're they're not like scoring at the top of
the list, you know. So yeah, I mean coolmo D
was a New York rapper, right, yeah, So, I mean
it's a it's a very uh specific take on hip hop,
(14:57):
but nonetheless very interesting. I'd love to see these from
every uh every rapper, give us your give us your scorecard,
but add outcast at um a couple more people. Yeah,
I'm just actually, when I'm thinking about innovating rhythms like beats, Okay,
(15:17):
who gets a ten d MX does? Okay, I get
it because there's a lot of like early Swizz Beats stuff.
Warren Hill makes sense. He had really great production busta, Yes,
he also gets I feel like ten for the beats.
Method Man gets ten, Tretch gets ten. Yeah, that's questionable.
I mean who was producing their albums? I forget the
(15:41):
method man makes sense because that was that was like,
you know, bigg he makes sense. Uh, like we're we're
doing an impossible task by trying to enter the mind
of cool MODI understand what these all me. Uh, many
academics have tried and failed where we're uh seriously, yeah,
(16:03):
all right, let's take a quick break. We will be
right back, and we're back and uh Reese Witherspoon. So
this is, uh, she said on Twitter in the parentheses
(16:25):
near and parentheses future, every person will have a parallel
digital identity. Avatars, crypto, wallets, digital goods will be the norm.
Are you planning for this? She is about to sell
crypto to her like middle aged fans. I feel like
that has to be it, right, I mean maybe there's
an explanation already, but like, what is this exactly? Reese?
(16:48):
What are you saying here, are you announcing something? Are
you just positing? Just I'd like to just a thought experiment,
and then if you are you prepared for the digital future.
I don't know, man, people aren't prepared for fucking ten
minutes from now. Like I would be shocked if like
she's at some similar dinner parties with like Mark Zuckerberg
or whatever. Fuck off? Right, Just I tried not the
(17:12):
meta stuff. It's it's really neat. You're like me, and
I wonder if they're I think of like that metaverse thing, right,
because Apple has come out unequivocally they're like, we're not
fucking with the metaverse. We don't see our like our
headset is being remotely anything like what Mark Zuckerberg thinks,
or like you're gonna spend all day with this thing on,
(17:33):
Like we see it for very specific use throughout the day,
not an all day thing. And the idea almost seems
like what rich people think what poor people need to
not get all angry about being poor, where it's like
offer them a metaverse because they won't actually be able
to own a Jaguar, you know, whatever fucking luxury item,
(17:55):
but they can in the metaverse. Because I don't see
I don't know who, I don't know. I don't know
why these people are bigging up this whole shit. I
don't know. I mean, once once you can like walk
around in there and like they have that full body
like thing like gaming is canna be super fun in
their gaming will be fun, no doubt, but it's not
(18:16):
going to be my life. St Yeah, yeah, like it.
It has to actually compete with what my senses and
brain are able to give me as a sensation, you
know what I mean, Like versus means big. But I
don't know about all this, Like judge, like are you
planning for it? Because you should be like this, this
(18:36):
tweet has the tone of a fucking insurance commercial, you know,
and that's why, you know, I'm curious like what people
are even saying, like in the mentions, being like what
does this mean? Is there something I should buy? I mean,
you're just leaving us hanging here. I'm already taking all
my financial planning advice from Matt damon commercials, So now
(18:59):
Reese Weatherspoon's gonna tell me what I should be doing
with my wallet. Robert Evans responded to Reese weatherspan and said,
we had digital avatars when I was twelve. They were
free and didn't burn down the rainforests, Like, oh shit, interesting, Yeah,
they're they're just haters, right, hunt, they're just haters, Like
(19:21):
down a rainforest. No, it just generates so much carbon
that we might as well forget it. And this is
a hater, right, like this person Robert Evans, Like they're
a hater, right right, Ryan phillipp E versus Robert Evans
Ship pay per view Fight of the Oh my god,
(19:43):
let's go. Uh in Brooklyn, we are counting on children
to do our activism for us. Yeah again Yeah, some
kids have walked out in protest of the in class
instruction at Brooklyn Tech. Yeah, they're just all saying, like,
why are we doing this? A macron is taking over
(20:05):
everywhere and we have to all pack into rooms. What
is this? And they just walked out again, Like we're saying,
we're it's we're having We're at this point now where
they're seeing activists being made out of people who are
merely just being like I'm not doing this ship. Yeah,
like y'all you got me fucked up if you could,
if you think I'm gonna put myself at risk or
(20:25):
these kids at risk and then uh. The United CEO
has said that the vaccine mandate appears to have ended
the weekly deaths of employees from COVID, that the company
has gone eight straight weeks with zero COVID related deaths
among our vaccinated employees. This is just I don't know.
I do feel like there is now a gravitational weight
(20:49):
to the right wing take a sphere like that. It
used to be like during Obama administration, it was like,
you know, what what is Bill O'Reilly saying? What? What's
Fox News saying? But now like we pay attention to
just like the absolutely wild dumb ship that is being
(21:09):
said by like Damn Bongino and ship like that, and
then the people who say basic facts like this, I
feel like just get sort of fleshed out of people's feeds.
Um So, I don't know, it's just good to see, like, uh,
you know, uh, a world where logic still exists, like
(21:32):
one story at least, right, it's funny, like it's something
we know is obvious, but he sounds like fucking Spock
when he says it. It's like, it seems we've gone
eight straight weeks with zero COVID related deaths among our
vaccinated employees. Jim, damn, that's okay, Yeah great, and now
think of now what will happen again? This is the
(21:54):
other thing, like we talked about yesterday, the flight attendants, like,
please make people fucking have to be vaccinated on on
a plane because I feel like a lot mostly unruly
people are not masking up. And also just for people's safety. Um,
I don't know where he'd land on that, but hey,
at least your at least your employees aren't passing away needlessly. Yeah,
(22:15):
it just seems like that that's such a straightforward uh
like it I don't know, it feels it feels like
the administration and the CDC and like Fauci have left
things like this bond where they're just like, hey, all
these people got vaccinated and they didn't die, like and
before they got vaccinated they were dying. Like just like
very straightforward like examples that like you can use to
(22:38):
tell stories to people, like I don't know, maybe they're
trying and it's just not getting any traction. But then
if it's not getting any traction, it's like that's a
that's a problem. Yeah, But about Brian just linked the
story from the New York Posts. The headline is Rolls
Royce boss says COVID deaths were good for business. Hell yeah, dude, baller,
(22:59):
that's ball straight baller ship And all he's saying is like, yeah, man,
people are scared of dying, so they were like buying
those cars because they didn't want to, like miss out
on driving a Rolls Royce. Nice cools. They should make
that their ad campaign. This guy looks like a fucking
super villain. Like he looks like Chris Hansen mixed with
(23:19):
Richard Branson in or something. Yeah, thanks Branson Hanson and
in one. But yeah, his name is Torsten Mueller Ovos.
Hell yeah, yeah, great. He put himself up by his
bootstraps and you know, self made man. Dude pulled himself
up by his fantastic bootstraps right into a Rolls Royce. Torsten, Yeah,
(23:44):
just a scrappy kid named Torsten. All right, well, those
are some of the things that are trending on this Tuesday.
Jank Ray eleven. We are back tomorrow with the whole
last episode of the show. Until then, be kind to
each other, be kind to yourself, get the vaccine, don't
do nothing about white supremacy and we will talk to
(24:05):
you all tomorrow. By H.
Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of Tailors
Old Desight. That that that dut and trend the right
we did it? We go really did it? Johnny d
(00:20):
John Big d Avis, rent a car, get them why
you can on the discord you are Miles, I am Jack.
These are some of the trending on this Tuesday, January eleven.
Rachel Maddow was trending, Yeah, depends on depends on what
(00:40):
version of the Internet you're on. UM, if if I
think it's better to first of all, look, this is
what happened. I'm a producer. I think somehow Madison Cawthorne,
the the congress person from North Carolina who's just a
pile of shit with the worst opinions on earth about everything,
UM got somehow saw an email. All that was from
(01:01):
a producer at Madow where they were discussing him potentially
being on the show to like talk about, you know,
his hand in the insurrection and maybe that might you know,
invalidate his ability to run for office. UM and they
voiced concern worry over having him on because he is,
like he's in the same category as your Marjorie Taylor
(01:21):
Green or Bobert Gates you know that that whole thing.
So he took that as spun then like, yo, they're
shoot man, they don't want they don't want your boy
Maddie car on the fucking Madow Show just fucking pone
in her because he thinks it's like a debate style thing. Uh,
kind of questioning her educational background. Now, look, did he
(01:43):
really like straight up asking like questioning her educational background?
There is I gotta find this tweet. There's something about
like your your wits or something. It's not like you know, uh,
she can't stand stand up up to my own my
my battle of wits, my sharp sharp as attack exactly.
(02:04):
And I mean, look, it's it's a mere speculation of
just being like, yo, she's terrified or whatever, and many
people have pointed in fact, it's like, sir, then look,
you no shade to people who drop out of school,
because you do what you gotta do. But if you're
gonna start talking about like measurable things like calling out
people's education, you may want to at least enter that
(02:27):
fight with some training and so you can at least
point to a useless piece of paper on your wall
to say, yeah, I did that thing. Also. But you didn't.
And also she's a fucking Rhodes scholar. Uh, I don't
know if that the terror isn't necessarily that you are
going to best her in a debate. Um, although many
people on the right are like being like, yo, she
can't handle it, dude, she can't handle the conservative talking points,
(02:51):
as Lewen Lauren Bobert said, right, I mean I would
guess that there are plenty of people who didn't graduate
from high school who could own a many a Rhodes
scholar in a like TV debate for sure, Like, um,
I don't think Rhodes scholar makes you necessarily good TV.
(03:13):
And no, no, but I mean if you're if you're
narrowly going to just talk about edge whatever education means
in the form of like measuring your intelligence, Like don't
just ye just say she's uh fucking lib I'm more
interested in uh, you know. He he is going through
the end of his marriage after eight months, and the
(03:34):
story of how he met his wife, the person who
introduced him to his wife sounds a lot like he
is being approached by a Russian intelligence operative. Like he
was overseas and in a Russian casino and was like
approached by somebody he didn't know, and like that somehow
(03:57):
led to him getting invited to a CrossFit competition in Florida,
where he ended up meeting his wife. But the CrossFit competition,
according to him, was actually made up and was just
a set up so he could meet his wife, which
feels like not a thing that typically happens unless you
(04:19):
are like part of an intelligence agency, like faking a
a large event in order to introduce a powerful person
too a romantic partner. Seems I don't know. He he
the way he tells the story, it seems like he
thinks that's normal, um, and like he has just sort
(04:40):
of digested as an adorable thing they did because they
were like such a perfect fit. I don't know, man.
It's an interesting thing because a lot of people point
to the fact that in two thousand nine, like Russia
actually banned casinos. So for you to do that, it's
a it's a it's a smoky operation at best gangster ship.
(05:03):
It's not. It's you're not going to Harrah's because they
deaded that in two thousand nine. So yeah, it is
interesting where you're like, hey, man, come over to St. Petersburg.
My name is Todd I was in the army. Hey, man,
you just come to this fake CrossFit tournament. I don't
I'm not really in the CrossFit. No, you gotta come, man,
it's gonna be sick. It's in Miami. Bro, you're scared. No, man,
(05:25):
ain't scared. All right, hopes on you. I just wanted
to meet this this lady who I wanted to set
you up with, and you'll get married and divorce after
eight months. I don't know. I mean that also sounds
like some shit, some shitty married shit. Also, like some
dude introduced you to someone at a fake car, Like, yeah,
there's some red flags. Uh, you know, plant or not
(05:47):
to be Like what the funk are you? What is it? Yeah? Anyways,
Mattel maddest fun for the ages. Also, like, I can't
imagine two people I want to see debate exactly. You Like,
he's not gonna say anything interesting, She's not going to
say anything. I'm not interested in. Yeah, I'm not interested
(06:07):
in seeing her debate at all. I'd like someone who's
maybe has a slicker mouth, you know, just gonna we'll
fight fire with fire. But anyway, it doesn't matter because
those are only for the debate obsessed. Yeah, um my
Angelou is trending. Oh no, what happened? Fuck uh? The
(06:33):
US has begun shipping quarters featuring her image. They're the
first in a series of quarters honoring American women that
runs through Um. Wow, this makes her the first black
woman on a US quarter. Wow, how about putting how
about putting some non white guys on the bills? Yeah?
(06:56):
You know that, man, wasn't that gonna be a thing
with Harry Tummy tupman? Yeah? And then we just were like,
you know what, get fucking that modern American terrorists. Andrew
Jackson on there? Keep him there. People don't know the
(07:16):
trailer tears anyway, they're gonna stop teaching it pretty soon.
And Andrew Jackson is going to be like the most
moderate politician we've seen in that area or something. Yeah,
I could definitely see a future of like American education
if you know what, what's his name has his way,
Steve Bannon and his movement like takeover where they're just
(07:37):
like only people you need to know from history or
the presidents on the money and here's how much they
kicked ass. It's like, yeah, it's definitely like one of
those Yeah, you can I don't know, it's just a
very slippery slope. Um. But it feels like those things
where like I hear kids talking about hip hop and
(07:59):
like their hip hop consciousness begins in like two thousand five,
and they're like really getting in the nitty gritty and
then like they'll say stuff they're like, man, I don't know,
Biggie's like overrated, and you're like, like the funk are
you talking about? Child? Then it rap. That's when right
exactly like Little Zan has fucking bars, dude, We're pretty
(08:23):
soon like we're gonna have to be hearing takes from history,
like from younger people being like honestly like the Northern
War of Aggression, like really like kind of like we're
feeling the reverberations of that today right straight up. Well,
speaking of the old school takes on hip hop, yes,
there's the image that's kind of making the rounds Uh.
(08:45):
It is cool MODI sort of early rapper um, back
in the day when rap was not It's not my
favorite era rap. It sounds a little nursery rhymey to me,
but but you know there was the early days. You know,
we're still forming the amend that is him. He made
a report card for rappers. Um, and you know he's
(09:07):
got some spicy takes on here. Um, some really smart
ones too, was the question. I was just about to
try and figure it out. It was in the nineties,
December one, so that explains some things. Uh, for instance,
Nas instead of having an A plus as a B
(09:29):
because I guess like that was after he had dropped,
like his I mean it was written is out at
that point. No, it was written was out for sure,
but I'm assuming he is like taking into account like
what they're releasing currently, right, I guess, because you're gonna
have Illmatic. Then it was written, Oh you know what
(09:52):
it was I Am? Yeah, it was right after I
It was the year that I Am came out and
n did Nastro Damas also come out that year too? Yeah?
I think so. So he had he dropped because that
was when we realized, oh, he's in a bad record
contract and he's just trying to drop as many albums
as possible because God's son. He came back. Okay, I
(10:13):
see that it's stillmatic. I mean, yeah that was. Yeah,
he was definitely recovering, so he gets to be what
else I mean, the other pretty surprising one is jay
Z is at a B. Well, also, what's the skill,
like what they's what he's scoring on? Right? The categories,
all right, So we got vocabulary, we got articulation, we
got creativity, we got originality, we got versatility, we got voice,
(10:37):
we got records, we got stage presence, we got sticking
to themes and innovating rhythms. I mean those are great,
great categories like JA and he's pretty you know, jay
Z has a ten on records because he was dropping
great records and that Yeah, he fucked he got he
(10:57):
his lowest score came for stage presence. I don't disagree
jay Z is not the most dynamic performer in person um,
so like I'm six is a little harsh. I mean,
obviously DMX gets a ten for stage presence. I mean
we could, we could honestly do a two hour podcast
about this. It's very interesting because I'm also stuck in right,
(11:19):
so i I'm like remembering everything very bit like okay,
well this or it's right not damas and I am
came out most deaf. Yeah, the little couple of couple
of errors here. Corrupt young Attie has spelled like the
word like corrupt like corrupt police um not. I love
his A plus for Lauren Hill and Biggie, They're the
(11:42):
only A plus is on the yeah, and then Tupac
gets a. My my most questionable A has to be
Tretch from from Naughty by Nature like for sure, his
delivery was unique and like he was good at like
kind of I think, yeah, New Yorkers, all New Yorkers
(12:02):
fun with Tretch though, you know, especially rappers, like I
feel like is like a rappers rapper like, I'm certainly
not checking for Tretch, but I've one thing I've consistently
I feel like I hear from other rappers is like
they funk with Tretch, and maybe that's where it is.
I'm like, I'm okay, I mean here we feel me
flow now, holle if you hear me, Okay, there's there's that.
(12:24):
Buster Rhymes also got A though I think that's correct
stage presence buster Buster or muster Buster Keaton actually something
about um rae Kwon B plus common B plus raz
cas B plus. I mean, let's be real. The lowest
(12:47):
scores on here a master P and Mace and too
short that's fucked up short as a performance artist. Okay,
master P come on now he's I guess that's the
problem is like we of the we have the long
view of history to look at these and be like,
I don't know, but what I guess around here you
got make him saying uh, and like was it with
(13:08):
the Last the Postman? Was that that album that he
had come out that year? I don't know what all
I know when I lived in Kentucky, Master P was
the only rapper that mattered to most of the people
I went to school with. Oh no, it was The
Last Dawn came out ninety eight. Yeah, so I think
that was the closest album to that one. And yeah,
(13:30):
I feel you like the Last Dawn if you weren't
really working with because Ghetto d was the one that
had made him saying, but that was out already by
this point. Yeah, yeah, I guess. But you know, I
don't know if people were hating on that ship too,
because that's when the South was coming up and people
were like, like outcast isn't on here, even though they were. Yeah,
(13:50):
probably the most important people making rap music at that time,
with the possible exception of Lauren Hill, even though she
wasn't actively making but she was just right I mean,
not that he really needs to be, but I'm curious
what he thought a white cleft. If he's like, well,
Lauren is against the nineties seven out of a hundred,
what does white cleft get? I mean, this is right
(14:13):
after a Quemini and he doesn't have Outcast on here. Yeah,
I wonder if that's what back because remember back then,
everyone's like, I mean, actually, no five, Mike still meant
something in the source back then. Oh yeah yeah, Outcast
was like the that's a conspicuous O mission for sure,
unless I'm just missing it or he misspelled it. But
(14:33):
because yeah, because how many West Coasters we have here?
Who got snoop corrupt mac ten mac ten too short cube?
But they're they're not like scoring at the top of
the list, you know. So yeah, I mean coolmo D
was a New York rapper, right, yeah, So, I mean
it's a it's a very uh specific take on hip hop,
(14:57):
but nonetheless very interesting. I'd love to see these from
every uh every rapper, give us your give us your scorecard,
but add outcast at um a couple more people. Yeah,
I'm just actually, when I'm thinking about innovating rhythms like beats, Okay,
(15:17):
who gets a ten d MX does? Okay, I get
it because there's a lot of like early Swizz Beats stuff.
Warren Hill makes sense. He had really great production busta, Yes,
he also gets I feel like ten for the beats.
Method Man gets ten, Tretch gets ten. Yeah, that's questionable.
I mean who was producing their albums? I forget the
(15:41):
method man makes sense because that was that was like,
you know, bigg he makes sense. Uh, like we're we're
doing an impossible task by trying to enter the mind
of cool MODI understand what these all me. Uh, many
academics have tried and failed where we're uh seriously, yeah,
(16:03):
all right, let's take a quick break. We will be
right back, and we're back and uh Reese Witherspoon. So
this is, uh, she said on Twitter in the parentheses
(16:25):
near and parentheses future, every person will have a parallel
digital identity. Avatars, crypto, wallets, digital goods will be the norm.
Are you planning for this? She is about to sell
crypto to her like middle aged fans. I feel like
that has to be it, right, I mean maybe there's
an explanation already, but like, what is this exactly? Reese?
(16:48):
What are you saying here, are you announcing something? Are
you just positing? Just I'd like to just a thought experiment,
and then if you are you prepared for the digital future.
I don't know, man, people aren't prepared for fucking ten
minutes from now. Like I would be shocked if like
she's at some similar dinner parties with like Mark Zuckerberg
or whatever. Fuck off? Right, Just I tried not the
(17:12):
meta stuff. It's it's really neat. You're like me, and
I wonder if they're I think of like that metaverse thing, right,
because Apple has come out unequivocally they're like, we're not
fucking with the metaverse. We don't see our like our
headset is being remotely anything like what Mark Zuckerberg thinks,
or like you're gonna spend all day with this thing on,
(17:33):
Like we see it for very specific use throughout the day,
not an all day thing. And the idea almost seems
like what rich people think what poor people need to
not get all angry about being poor, where it's like
offer them a metaverse because they won't actually be able
to own a Jaguar, you know, whatever fucking luxury item,
(17:55):
but they can in the metaverse. Because I don't see
I don't know who, I don't know. I don't know
why these people are bigging up this whole shit. I
don't know. I mean, once once you can like walk
around in there and like they have that full body
like thing like gaming is canna be super fun in
their gaming will be fun, no doubt, but it's not
(18:16):
going to be my life. St Yeah, yeah, like it.
It has to actually compete with what my senses and
brain are able to give me as a sensation, you
know what I mean, Like versus means big. But I
don't know about all this, Like judge, like are you
planning for it? Because you should be like this, this
(18:36):
tweet has the tone of a fucking insurance commercial, you know,
and that's why, you know, I'm curious like what people
are even saying, like in the mentions, being like what
does this mean? Is there something I should buy? I mean,
you're just leaving us hanging here. I'm already taking all
my financial planning advice from Matt damon commercials, So now
(18:59):
Reese Weatherspoon's gonna tell me what I should be doing
with my wallet. Robert Evans responded to Reese weatherspan and said,
we had digital avatars when I was twelve. They were
free and didn't burn down the rainforests, Like, oh shit, interesting, Yeah,
they're they're just haters, right, hunt, they're just haters, Like
(19:21):
down a rainforest. No, it just generates so much carbon
that we might as well forget it. And this is
a hater, right, like this person Robert Evans, Like they're
a hater, right right, Ryan phillipp E versus Robert Evans
Ship pay per view Fight of the Oh my god,
(19:43):
let's go. Uh in Brooklyn, we are counting on children
to do our activism for us. Yeah again Yeah, some
kids have walked out in protest of the in class
instruction at Brooklyn Tech. Yeah, they're just all saying, like,
why are we doing this? A macron is taking over
(20:05):
everywhere and we have to all pack into rooms. What
is this? And they just walked out again, Like we're saying,
we're it's we're having We're at this point now where
they're seeing activists being made out of people who are
merely just being like I'm not doing this ship. Yeah,
like y'all you got me fucked up if you could,
if you think I'm gonna put myself at risk or
(20:25):
these kids at risk and then uh. The United CEO
has said that the vaccine mandate appears to have ended
the weekly deaths of employees from COVID, that the company
has gone eight straight weeks with zero COVID related deaths
among our vaccinated employees. This is just I don't know.
I do feel like there is now a gravitational weight
(20:49):
to the right wing take a sphere like that. It
used to be like during Obama administration, it was like,
you know, what what is Bill O'Reilly saying? What? What's
Fox News saying? But now like we pay attention to
just like the absolutely wild dumb ship that is being
(21:09):
said by like Damn Bongino and ship like that, and
then the people who say basic facts like this, I
feel like just get sort of fleshed out of people's feeds.
Um So, I don't know, it's just good to see, like, uh,
you know, uh, a world where logic still exists, like
(21:32):
one story at least, right, it's funny, like it's something
we know is obvious, but he sounds like fucking Spock
when he says it. It's like, it seems we've gone
eight straight weeks with zero COVID related deaths among our
vaccinated employees. Jim, damn, that's okay, Yeah great, and now
think of now what will happen again? This is the
(21:54):
other thing, like we talked about yesterday, the flight attendants, like,
please make people fucking have to be vaccinated on on
a plane because I feel like a lot mostly unruly
people are not masking up. And also just for people's safety. Um,
I don't know where he'd land on that, but hey,
at least your at least your employees aren't passing away needlessly. Yeah,
(22:15):
it just seems like that that's such a straightforward uh
like it I don't know, it feels it feels like
the administration and the CDC and like Fauci have left
things like this bond where they're just like, hey, all
these people got vaccinated and they didn't die, like and
before they got vaccinated they were dying. Like just like
very straightforward like examples that like you can use to
(22:38):
tell stories to people, like I don't know, maybe they're
trying and it's just not getting any traction. But then
if it's not getting any traction, it's like that's a
that's a problem. Yeah, But about Brian just linked the
story from the New York Posts. The headline is Rolls
Royce boss says COVID deaths were good for business. Hell yeah, dude, baller,
(22:59):
that's ball straight baller ship And all he's saying is like, yeah, man,
people are scared of dying, so they were like buying
those cars because they didn't want to, like miss out
on driving a Rolls Royce. Nice cools. They should make
that their ad campaign. This guy looks like a fucking
super villain. Like he looks like Chris Hansen mixed with
(23:19):
Richard Branson in or something. Yeah, thanks Branson Hanson and
in one. But yeah, his name is Torsten Mueller Ovos.
Hell yeah, yeah, great. He put himself up by his
bootstraps and you know, self made man. Dude pulled himself
up by his fantastic bootstraps right into a Rolls Royce. Torsten, Yeah,
(23:44):
just a scrappy kid named Torsten. All right, well, those
are some of the things that are trending on this Tuesday.
Jank Ray eleven. We are back tomorrow with the whole
last episode of the show. Until then, be kind to
each other, be kind to yourself, get the vaccine, don't
do nothing about white supremacy and we will talk to
(24:05):
you all tomorrow. By H.
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