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In episode 1005, Jack and Miles are joined by host of the Money Rehab podcast Nicole Lapin to discuss Texas Federal Judge ends the abortion ban...for now, The Underrated, Underreported, Undercounted Deadliness of Heatwaves, Tall Zoom Energy, Google has entered the HALLOWEEN CANDY GRAPHIC FIGHT and more!

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2. The Underrated, Underreported, Undercounted Deadliness of Heatwaves
3. Tall Zoom Energy
4. Google has entered the HALLOWEEN CANDY GRAPHIC FIGHT 
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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season two oh five,
Episode five of Days Like Guys to production of I
Heart Radio. This is a podcast where we take a
deep dive into America's shared consciousness. It's Friday, October eight,
so you know what that means. It is, of course
National Fluffer Nutter Day to the day we've all been

(00:23):
looking forward to. We will be off by the way
on Monday for International Indigenous People's Day. So don't don't
blow us up. Say where's the episode? What happened? We'll
be back, We'll be back, don't be back. Don't worry,
don't worry. My name is Jack O'Brien a k so
king time. One last call for bed Jumper so we

(00:47):
can stop Jesus his tears, so king time. God don't
want us to bone. And hey bro, my eyes are
up here. I know who I want to help me bone.
That is courtesy of Chris Harvey at Real Chris Harvey,

(01:09):
not the fake one, and I'm thrilled to be joined
as always by my co host, Mr Miles Crag. I
saw a Lanis morrisset last night, so in honor of
that is Miles Gray a k A. You're getting slammed
in a Twitter debate because you listen to Facebook and

(01:30):
ate some horse paste. You hate ten thousand books because
it points out that you're white. It's like meeting Ben Shapiro.
It's been realizing he doesn't even have a wife. The
cell phony seems ironic, don't you think? But I'm smoking
too much chronic to really let that sink a Miles Gray. Okay,

(01:54):
let me just tell you. Alanis Morrissett twenty five year
anniversary tour, Jackie Little Pill, She's still I could not
believe how good her voice it was. It gave me
my spine almost shot out my body. It was I
don't even I don't know I was to describe it.
And also Shirley Manson from Garbage also killed Garbage and
a whole lot more. Yeah, the year was last night,

(02:17):
you know. And was was it like the Kanye eight
to eight show where he she just did the album
straight through or no she no, she kind of she
needed it. Yeah, a little bit, a little bit from
here and there, you know, But it was I, I
honestly I couldn't believe, like how how her She's maintained
her voice for this long and it's it was really like,

(02:38):
I felt like there's it's it was still so I've
rediscovered my fandom. Wow, well, Miles, we are thrilled to
be joined in our third seat by a suspiciously first
rate guest to be on our second rate podcast that
opens with us singing about floating. She is the New
York Times best selling author of the book Rich Bitch,

(03:00):
TV news anchor, businesswoman, philanthropist, and most impressively of all,
of course, a podcaster. She's been an anchor on CNN, CNBC,
and Bloomberg, was the money saving correspondent for The Wendy
Williams Show, and it hosts the very informative podcast Money
Where we had with Nicole Lappen on the I Heart
Radio podcast network. Please welcome the brilliant, the talented Nicole

(03:24):
lapping How are you doing good? How are you You know?
I am better now that I'm hanging with you guys
in my pod closet, which I spend many many hours
in during the day. How many hours ran talking in
that pod closet. Well, I'm doing my audio book now

(03:45):
by myself, so I'm talking to myself basically all day
and all night long. And I never want to hear
the sound of my own voice. So during Indigenous People's Day,
I'm just not talking to any people. Just yeah, going
on a valve silence for that, talking to yourself, your
own words that you wrote a while ago. Yeah, very meta,
and that would that would make me a little bit crazy.

(04:10):
Do you think you would start second guessing? Like does
that process ever be? Like? Oh man, I think I
can reward that. But then you're like, but this is
already locked. So do I deviate or you find it
very easy? Just trust what you've written. It's a good question.
I for the first book I wrote, I'm on my
fourth book, which is Bananas. I need to take book
birth control immediately. If you know where to find that,

(04:32):
let me know. For rich Bitch, I thought nobody was
going to listen to it ever, so I just basically
had a little party with myself and made jokes that
were not funny. Maybe they were just funny to myself,
which most of my jokes are. Um And then audio
books became a thing and they became more and more popular,
so I kind of have to take it seriously. But no,

(04:54):
I can't second guess anything, because, as you guys know,
there's this crazy supply chain issue with all products, furniture
and chips and everything and books included. So I got
a spot in the printer and I cannot get out
of the spot, or my book is not gonna come out,
Oh my god. But if I want it out in January,

(05:15):
MoMA's got to read with On the page, he wrote,
I've never done right. Amazing book birth Control, by the way,
I think is just listening to podcasts, just clearing your
brain of any good ideas. But what was the podcast

(05:35):
festival or something? Yeah, which sounds like a whole other thing. Yeah,
a podcast movement, Yeah, exactly. Alright, Nicole, We're gonna get
to know you a little bit better in a moment. First,
we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of things we're
talking about. We're gonna talk about a Texas federal judge
has ended the abortion band for now. We're gonna talk

(05:56):
about the underrated, underreported, under account, a deadliness of heat waves.
We might even get to Andrew Cuomo's book. We will
definitely get to Tall Zoom energy. That's a thing, all
of that plenty more. But first, Nicole, we do like
to ask our guests, what is something from your search history.

(06:17):
So the most recent thing on my phone search history
is Birds of Paradise dog. So my puppy Penny, and
her name is very un brand for a money person.
Of course, she is the mascot of money Rehab. You
can follow her at docky coin. I know you guys

(06:39):
are already doing that. Who else would you be following?
But she eats all the things and she ate Birds
of Paradise and as a protective dog mommy, I wanted
to see if she was allowed to eat those, and
apparently she's not. So that's when I took Penny to

(06:59):
the dog. It's like, actually is poisonous or just starting
like dad, they're better not off eating that or the articles.
I get to a vet now it was like somewhere
in between. But Penny like noth on all the birds
of Paradise, so she really like inhaled them and yeah,

(07:20):
they induced vomiting and five dollars later and that's what's left. Yeah,
sarch history. Yeah, I regularly have to search things about
what I can give my dog. The last thing I
searched was cash shows because wow, man, it is adorable
and looking about you as actually looks like you're waking

(07:47):
up a dog like you wake up a dog like what,
but Penny looks like, h yeah. Recently I searched cash
shows because I was eating them. And then do you know,
like the other like earlier this week, there's just that
wild thunderstorm that hit the City's like lightning every so
my dog was losing it. But my dog will not
bark or get startled by fireworks or lightning, like if

(08:10):
I have treats, It's very interesting, like he will just
focus immediately be like yes, I will sit down and
have my ears up at attention. Please give me this treat.
And I only had cash shows at the time, and
I was like, is this okay? Turns out it's okay,
But don't put your dog in a cash you diet either.
It's okay. We'll say yeah exactly, just like you know, fine,
but just don't think that's you can just start giving

(08:31):
your dog cashus all the time. Guys. I have a question,
we're all in l a and with dogs, why did
we not do a podcast doggie date. I know, damn
pandemic um, but yeah, I definitely want to meet Penny
in person. She's looking straight in like camera, just amazing

(08:53):
eye contact. She just made like very intense eye contacts
with me and then did a stage yawn at me.
So do you do you have birds of paradise that
or do you no longer have birds of paradise like
at your abode? So it wasn't at my abode. It
was at a hotel in San Diego that was really

(09:17):
build as a dog friendly hotel, I know, And so
then I was really pissed because Penny was just out
in the terrorists doing her thing like at her dog
friendly hotel, and they can't have things that dogs can't
eat at a dog friendly hotel. So I got really

(09:38):
pissed at them. Dog friendly except for these delicious looking
flowers that are chocolate bars like a baker and chocolate
fondue fountain that is at knee level, not for the dogs.
So very leethful Baker's chocolate. It's lethal, but I guess

(09:58):
love it. Birds of Paradise though one of the best flower,
best named flowers in my opinion, I think I really
nailed that name. It does look like a bird. Kenny
doesn't think it's paradise though to that botanist, shout out
to whoever named that flower. What is something you think
is overrated. I think leasing a car is overrated. I know,

(10:22):
we live in l A and everybody does that. I
think what's underrated is buying a used car four years
old or older because that's the greatest appreciation period and
then running that gelope into the ground. You don't have
to flex with your ride if it takes you into
financial prison. Right now, we're getting that money rehab, notledge.

(10:43):
I'm like that, I just paid off my car good
and I'm you know and now and but my plan
is run that ship into the ground, which I've done
with every other car prior to that. But yeah, I
know many people who get caught in like the vanity
of leasing, like having a new car constantly, and there
are also just like constantly complaining about how expensive their car.

(11:06):
Least isn't like this just so you can have a
Mercedes that shoots a light on the ground, that has
a logo on it. Okay, now this is your area
of expertise. But something you haven't addressed is I just
have been renting a Dodge charger for the last three
years from Avis. Do you recommend that? Is that smart financially?

(11:30):
I mean one expense one the household expense. It does
not have the light on the bottomen not approved. If
it had to light be a different story, right is
it projecting a Dodge logo from the onto the ground
so people know even more what kind of car you drive?
But okay, so leasing overrated? I like that scam. It

(11:52):
truly is a scam. I'm not even in midst worse
about it. Why do you think the car companies came
up with it to make money, to make more money?
Right to be like that here's a car because I
remember when I was about to pay my car off.
I've never been contacted more from the dealership like, hey man,
we got the two is about to roll in. You

(12:13):
want to we can. I know you're one payment away
from straight up owning this vehicle, but what if we
got you to come in and test drive this other
car that's slightly better than the one you have and
get you in another lease or into it just to
lease itself. But yeah, right, what you're paying new car
price for a used car by the time you turn

(12:34):
it in, and then you turn it in, you don't
even own the car, right right, right? And four years
or older is when it depreciates. But it's not that's
not reflective of the value, especially like new cars are.
Really they do a good job with these cars these days,
as I understand it, right, like the last Yeah, they
lasted pretty long time, don't they. Yeah, I think a

(12:57):
source to say they do last. They are very very expensive,
and they lose value the second you drive them off
the lot. And so before your old car doesn't look
that different, like the interface probably the same, and the
light is still probably there. I'm not talking about like
getting a Pinto or something, you know, get something that

(13:19):
was gently used. Yeah, I'm all about that. You know,
you do always want to trust a used car salesperson,
so that that's the reason they have that reputation of
being trustworthy, right, unless it was me when I used
to sell used cars or on the lot when I
worked on a Dodge a lot. Everyone's like, you gotta
sell the use man, that they're gonna kill They're gonna

(13:39):
make money, man. So I'm used, and I'm just like
so bad at I'm bad at like aggressive sales, Like
I'm good at like you know, finessing my words and
you know, the rhetorical mastery of it all. But the
part where it's time to get somebody to be like
throw your money away on this. Now that with all
apart right, you can't lie. You're a good man, honest

(14:00):
to Yeah, you know, we'll see that that could all
change once AULT starts up. What what's something you think
is underrated? Underrated is buying a used car or you know,
a step or a simple or a bunch of retirement
accounts that aren't super sexy. I love the people who

(14:21):
did the marketing for a four oh one K. Four
o one K is like the darling, but I think
that's overrated. There are a ton of other retirement accounts
that I think are underrated. And the more of the
merrier when it comes to retirement accounts, I think a
lot of folks think the four oh one K is
like the only girl at the dance. She's not. There
are others mm hmm. And does your company need to

(14:41):
like participate in the other like retirement accounts or you
can just kind of pick and choose. If you have
a four o one kit, well, so you can have
a four oh one K and an Ira. I know
you guys are staked and Ira love that roth Ira life.
You just go to the bank and you can open

(15:02):
up an ira, a traditional or a rath, and the
only difference is taxes. With a roth you pay taxes.
Now with the traditional, you pay taxes when you take
it out. And so that's like a whole other category
of retirement accounts. Then the four oh one K, so
you can have a four oh one K and you
can have a roth ira and a traditional if you want.

(15:23):
And then sebs and symbols are like other variations of
iras in that family. If you own your own business, wow,
I'm so it's how did you become so financially literate?
Because I grew up in the most pretty financially illiterate
home or like one where a lot of those things
were not communicated to me, So there was a lot

(15:45):
of trial and error once I got out of college.
So I would always meet people with their financial ship together,
like how did you get there? I lied? True story.
I grew up in an immigrant family, so in first
generation American super oken home. My father died of an
overdose when I was young. My mother saw pieced out
and I just needed to work, so I needed to

(16:06):
get a job. We talked about this before we went
on the air roll in l A. I went to
an arts high school. I wanted to be a dancer,
and then I went to college to be a poetry major.
So like, I'm the least likely person to be a
finance expert or whatever. I never thought I'd even be
in business or talking about business. But then I started
in journalism and I auditioned for this small station group

(16:31):
in Chicago. I went to Northwestern and I wanted to
get like a local news job, and they said, well,
you don't get this job, but do you know anything
about business? And I was eighteen at the time, and
I just said, yes, I just want love business. This
voice on Sunday. Like I had a boyfriend in high school.

(16:54):
He said he wanted to be a hedge fund manager,
and I thought the dude wanted to be a gardening Yeah,
so if I could do this, anyone could do this. Sure, no,
and yeah, And I mean I've I've I've gathered that
over the years. When people like try this read up
about that, I'm like, oh, right, okay, I think it's
just at a certain point there was just I think

(17:15):
my priorities are just completely off. So it took like
moments like that really is like, yeah, that's right. We
live in a very complex financial system here as well,
especially as it relates to like taxes and things like that.
So at a certain point, I think I just became
very apathetic because it just felt like, well, this is
I get it. I would have been apathetic if I
didn't need it to pay the bills. I wouldn't have

(17:37):
done it otherwise for sure. And what I realized is
that money is a language like anything else. We just
didn't have a Rosetta stone for this language. No matter
what high school you went to or growing up, no
matter what kind of household you grew up in. We
don't learn this stuff in school. We learn a bunch
of bs, like how to dissect a frog or the
Pythagorean theorem. Why why we like if we want to

(17:59):
know when? Right? Like you want to train get to
a station, but you know what the Pythagorean theorem is,
don't you. Yeah, I'm square equals squared, that's right, or
but you but then you start asking me about retirement.
I'm like, shit, Right, if I were in charge of

(18:24):
the world, we would learn about sebs and simples instead
of ice slus triangles. But I'm not yet. And you know,
I think that for me at a necessity, I just
went to school of hard knocks. And you know, if
you go to China you don't speak Chinese, you'd be confused.
If you go to Wall Street, you don't speak the
language of money, you'd be confused. But then hello, Captain obvious.
Once you speak it, you understand it. But first you

(18:47):
have to just learn this silly little language. But it's
like not complicated and so. And I think that's probably
intentional too, because I think most people, if you're not
making globs of money, you don't learn a lot of
the other tricks of the trade or like wealth accumulation
tactics that people have. And it seems like, yeah, you'll
just be like, well, then that's for someone else, But

(19:08):
then you realize, no, it's just we can educate ourselves,
maybe give ourselves a different outcome. Yeah. And then a
lot of women in particular, you know, I wrote Rich Bitch.
I either thought it was going to fail or crush it.
There was no gray area. People were gonna have feelings
about the book. But because I think women in particular
don't get their financial lives together because they think a

(19:28):
guy is going to take care of it, and listening
to you guys, case in pointake care of it out
of a spider though, yeah, you know, or I will
escort it outside because I like spiders. But I'm there.
But yeah, you start talking about college funds and stuff
like that. Like my partner I was like, what, dude,

(19:49):
should we in the college fun? Like, man, I'm gonna
sella n F T. And then you know, like that's
not a strategy. I'm like, you're right. Do you have
a like a crash course do you recommend for people
just to like kind of like, what what did you
read to first sort of learn the language. I was

(20:10):
just on the floor of the Chicago Merk, which is
like Wolf of Wall Street style, and so I learned
it there and I realized, like, when I heard people
say short, I thought it was the opposite at all,
but it's not. It's just the opposite of long in
the Wall Street world, and it's not complicated. It's like
it just means something's going in the pooper, it's going
to fail, and that's all. But nobody says it like that.

(20:32):
They say, you know, most folks who explain it don't
even understand what the heck they're saying. And so I
thought that there was an opportunity to be like, hello,
everybody is just like smoking something here? Can can somebody
just explain this, like say it plain how it is?
And so that's what I tried to do, and so
folks wanted that. Yeah, so rich Bitch would be the

(20:57):
rich Bitch would be a good place to start. Boss
Mitch would be another good place to start. Miss Independent
is the book I have coming out in January, and
not to sort of like sell my own books, but
I came up with the Money School because I kept
saying the same type of schpiel, like why isn't there
a class? And so I kept saying it so much
I was like I might as well do one because

(21:18):
and it doesn't include the Pythagorean theorem. Yeah, you're really
hard on the Pythagorean theorem. By the way, I do
have to stand up for the Pagan theorem. That's never
steered me wrong as far as I know, in the
zero times that I've had to use it in my
everyday life. You're right, let's be fair, Miles. You know

(21:39):
it's really hard on her. All right, let's take a
quick break and we'll be right back, and we're back,
and a Texas federal j has put an end to

(22:01):
the abortion band for now. This is District Judge Robert Pittman.
He issued a one thirteen page opinion on Wednesday night,
and it basically just calls out all the things that
people have been saying about this law, like from the
start that effectively it reverses, you know, the Constitution, Like

(22:23):
what what is agreed on legally as like legal president
in the country. Yeah, it's just it's as unconstitutional as
it looked. And this just judge this because his opinion
was so different than what the Fifth Circuit or even
the Supreme Court did, which was basically be like, oh,
I don't know how to if we can enforce this
is very tricky this bill that they've credit and then

(22:46):
just sort of like let things go on. But I
mean this this judge was unequivocal, he said, quote from
the moment SBA went into effect, women have been unlawfully
prevented from exercising control over their lives and ways that
are protected by the Constitution that other courts they find
a way to avoid. This conclusion is theirs to decide
this court will not sanction one more day of this

(23:06):
offensive deprivation of such an important right, people like, oh okay,
oh easy go a little bit easy on scote is there.
But you know, this law was deliberately designed to avoid
any kind of judicial review, like so that no one
could find someone to sue over this law, because what
they did was just sort of say, we're gonna basically

(23:28):
make it so private citizens are going to be the
ones that's the enforcement mechanism, not the government or the
state itself. So because of that, good luck trying to
you know, that's it's the way the bills set up.
It's not us, it's it's just everyday citizens that are
going to enforce this. So if that was just sort
of everyone just had their hands up and most people
like this is just so just so just flatly cynical

(23:50):
when you look at just how it's designed and there's
no one to sue, then there's no judicial review. And
Pittman wasn't buying this sort of blatant again legal cynicism,
and said, you know, the State of Texas very much
does have a hand in enforcement as it relates to
things like instructing judges on the penalties to assess under
this specific law. So the judge wasn't buying it and saying, no,

(24:14):
you know what this is, I'm not I can't, I
can't let this stand. So he just went on to
dismantle many of the arguments about like what is even
a heartbeat at six weeks? What does it even mean
for most people at six weeks that may not even
know that they're pregnant, or and also like issues as
it relates to access and things like that. So right
now the law can't be enforced, but a lot of

(24:37):
like abortion providers are also a little bit worried about
you know, there's there is a provision in the bill
that allows for retroactive lawsuits to be brought um, so
even during this time, if it were reinstated, they feel
like that's in the wording. So they're still trying to
figure things out, and they've made it clear the State
of Texas like we're gonna appeal to the fifth the

(24:57):
fifth Circuit that already looked the other way the first
time we brought this around. So it's a very much
you know, back and forth at this point. But at
least this is a a small victory, right, I mean,
from the perspective of someone in the finance world, it's
really disturbing that the Texas Abortion Band pits people in

(25:18):
low socio economic groups against each other. So the wealthy elite,
regardless of what goes on in Scotus or the laws
of the state, are always going to be able to
get reproductive healthcare. But it's the folks in low socioeconomic
groups that can't travel to another state or miss work
or hourly work to get an abortion. So this pits

(25:40):
people who have unwanted pregnancies against people who need a
couple bucks. And you know, that's not really been reported extensively,
but I find that the most appalling. Oh just sort
of like the incentive, like how they're incentivized essentially. Yeah,
the what one of the people who brought one of
the UH first lawsuits was like, yeah, I mean I'm

(26:05):
pro life ish but or anti choice ish, but really
I'm just doing this because I need the money. I'm
a disgraced lawyer, Like things aren't going great. Yeah, it's
it's fucked. And it really is, like, I think a

(26:25):
decision that has been made, or at least a lesson
that's been learned in politics that like if everything's happening
among people who are you know, in the lower levels
of the you know, very real American cast system. People
like the mainstream media won't pay attention to it like that,

(26:47):
they won't cover it. Do you guys know how pregnancy
weeks work? I think we've talked about it. I mean,
I mean, like very in like a very from reading
articles many times and knowing like what like in terms
of gestation, like what at six weeks they're interpreting as
a heart rate, which is an electrical impulse, and there's
the fetus at that point is not even developed an

(27:09):
actual heart I mean things like that, But I would
not say I'm an expert by any stretch. Now I'm
not an expert either. I did a couple episodes on this.
I had a miscarriage earlier this year, and it was
actually only then that I figured out how pregnancy weeks work.
So they actually add two weeks on when they're talking
about how many weeks you are pregnant, so you count

(27:29):
it from you know, your last menstrual cycle, but obviously
that's not when you got pregnant, and so six weeks
in this case is technically four weeks from conception, which
is really hard for any woman to know, right And
and that's all this judge said. It's like, this is
just setting down an impossible task for someone who is

(27:49):
pregnant to even know, and for most people, like when
they even know they're pregnant, it's well past six weeks. So,
you know, a credit to this judge for build sadly
being brave enough to defend like what people had agreed
upon was a constitutional right and to not just give
like a you know, like in the Supreme Court is

(28:09):
like a like a couple of paragraphs to just sort
of explain that's complex and you know, we're not going
to really touch it. So yeah, I think I hope
that this can at least set a higher standard. And
we'll see if again this appeal, what happens with that,
because the Fifth Circuit again was more than willing to
accept these kinds of arguments the first time. But Nicholae,

(28:31):
you're saying that it's not counting back from the last
from your missed menstrual cycle. It's counting back from your
last mestural cycle that you actually had. Yeah, I actually
didn't know that until I was pregnant, right, So Obi
explained this to me, And so yeah, so let's say
you know, your last menstrual cycle was what October one,

(28:54):
and you know how we know how babies are made,
you know, happens in the middle of your cycle, right,
So say conception was around you know, the fifteen or
something like that, then you know six weeks out is
actually November, right, So even though that's four weeks since conception,

(29:17):
so they count it from the beginning. Yeah, they just
add on two weeks and so that really gives you
two weeks from your missed menstrual period, which obviously is
not always like okay, this is clockwork. It's not here,
so it must be pregnant like that. There's all sorts
of different reasons for you know, delayed menstrual periods and

(29:38):
so like that, that really gives you two weeks best
case scenario to know if you're going by you know,
the you're missing a menstrual cycle two weeks too, then
needing to get a hotel and you know, making all
those plans, it's not enough time, and it's actually you know,

(30:00):
how are you going to get time off work? There's
all these other economic issues that are embedded into this. Yeah,
and it's funny because like in Texas, they're also arguing
it's like, well we're not cutting like people can go
to like Oklahoma or like Colorado or like other places
and like and that works. But they're just like, no, no,
you don't understand. If you are allowed to have a
law that's unconstitutional like this, then every state can. So

(30:23):
it's not that this state is just in a vacuum.
So again, like you know, they're very disingenuous attempt at
doing this was like rightly observed and in a proper
opinion was like written on it. But yeah, at this point,
I think this is just something that we're going to
keep seeing them trying to test what's gonna work or
what's not. And you know, if Scotus will deliver a

(30:46):
deathblow eventually, yeah, I mean I would just say that
nobody is pro abortion, you know, nobody is. In the
episode that we did about this, I talked about a
pregnancy termination that I had when I was smith younger
and I was on birth control and I was taking
another pill that made it ineffective and it was by

(31:06):
far the worst day of my life. And so when
you see protesters, I'm always like, who do you think
you're protesting against? These are like your sisters potentially or
your coworkers. I only then opened up to friends, and
I had no idea that other so many of my
friends and other women have gone through the very same thing.

(31:27):
So I would just underscore that this idea that this
is somehow like a birth control or a fun, you know,
excursion to Oklahoma. It's not devastating. Yeah, kind of the
off of your point, Nicole, I do I do want
to talk about this l a Times report about heat waves,
which is basically that they're saying that heat waves are

(31:49):
six times deadlier than the official counts recognize, just using
data of like how many people would normally die during
a period, and then how many people die when the
temperature is like extremely elevated. And also off of your
point earlier, is happening to the sorts of people that

(32:11):
we don't see reported on, which is the poorest people,
the unhoused, the elderly, the infirm, like people who you know,
the news is like we don't we don't really want
to see stories about them. And it's you know, way
higher than anybody gives a credit for. They point out
in the article that after a massive heatwave in California,

(32:37):
thinking there were so many deaths, and like in a
normal natural disaster, you would see like NonStop reporting and
like where did we fall short? What happened? And there
there was none of that. It was like it didn't happen.
And I think part of the problem is that these

(32:58):
deaths aren't really like easy ee to see or like
picture in your mind's eye. Like even in the article
as they described the deaths, they sort of happened like
off camera, Like an elderly man is like working digging
ditches on during heatwave and goes home feeling sick and
it's found that night in cardiac arrest and his driveway,

(33:19):
and it's like you don't see them because they're just
like not necessarily things that are happening in front of people.
That's more kind of deaths of neglect. And just like
in general, I always talk about how movies really give
us our visual like vocabulary for things, like we our

(33:41):
vision of space is mostly based on like movies that
we've seen take place in space, or you know, our
vision of countries we haven't been to, and like every
other natural disaster has been depicted in movies, like I
can picture people in floods and tsunami's like freezing earthquake,
twist or hurricane, but like there's there's nothing for really

(34:06):
like a heat death of it than like somebody and
on like a desert island and it's like a slow
dissolved to a skeleton with a pirate head on or whatever.
But they're just pointing out that, like this is the
deadliest form of natural disaster already in America and it's
only going to get worse from here until we address

(34:28):
climate change, and we're just not you know that, like
California put together a list of I think forty recommendations
for like how they could address this problem and of
heat death, of heat death yet and just like extreme
heat and like being prepared for it, and years later

(34:49):
they're asked about it and they're like, yeah, well we've
made like progress on like six of those things, which
and the articles like that's even a stretch. So it's
just something to keep an eye on because it is
like sort of this silent, invisible killer that is happening
more and more because of climate change. Right, Yeah, but

(35:10):
that's the community that climate change is affecting the most.
And you guys have seen a lot of this news
around the dead ceiling recently, and part of this, if
we don't raise the dead ceiling, then FEMA is not
going to have as much money to take care of
people that are hit by natural disasters. And of course
we've seen from these climate change reports that that's only
gonna increase. So that really scares me, right, And on

(35:34):
top of it, you have people in the Senate who
are willing to just weaponize that to be like, yeah,
like I'll trigger global recession like watch, and then that
way I can just point the finger at Joe Biden
in the mid terms, because that's how cynical we are. Yeah,
it's it's definitely, I think, just this ongoing problem. But yeah,
to the idea of like people not having the imagination,

(35:56):
I mean, I remember, like my grandfather had a story
about like the war, about how he got heat stroke
or you know, just at the time he was just
digging in a just out in the direct sunlight and
describe all these things that happened to him. And even
as a kid, I was like just from being in
the sun. And I think, because we don't have the

(36:17):
imagination for it, it it seems like this very obscure thing.
Yet every time you look at a heat wave, come.
You can just see the death rates go up, whether
it's here or like in Europe a few years ago.
Like it's it's just a very it's a very real thing.
But yeah, we just I don't know if we can
people can are able to connect it because it just
seems like an obscure way to die. Yeah. Yeah, but

(36:40):
somebody asked you something about it. You know, during the
the new cycle of the Climate change report, I saw
this really interesting quote. I was talking to my partner
about it. It It does a lot of work in climate change,
and he said that this man said to his wife,
you know, I'm scared to raise children in a time
like this, And then the women said, I disagree. It's

(37:01):
the ultimate privilege. I always love this quote. To raise
dragon slayers in a time when there are dragons just like, yeah,
I love that. I've already talked to my five year
old and three year old about like, hey, so this
is going to be the main challenge of your lifetime,
is like we we have to figure out how to
deal with all sorts of ship. But yeah, but I

(37:22):
think that's why that this These younger kids have a
much more acute form of like eco anxiety than any
other generation, you know, like they're they I think they're
it's really connecting the dots for them. That like this
is for many people who are under forty, things can
begin will begin to look very different very quickly. Eco anxiety,

(37:43):
that's the thing too. Yeah, there's like a study about
it yet, just how it's affecting, you know, just this
idea of how it seems like every day you're reading
a report about how coral reefs are beginning to disappear,
or the biodiversity of shrinking, and like the biomass is going,
like just all these things and it just feels like
a cascading, never ending omni crisis of the environment. And

(38:06):
that is like that leads to a very specific form
of anxiety around like how viable our earth is going
to be? I tried to focus on on more like
you guys get to build an entire new world, like
it's going to be actually from a lot of could
be a lot of creativity. I'm going to be a
dried out husk that blows away with yeah, with a

(38:30):
pirate hat on. I do want people to uh it's
a nice man, yeah, at a whimsy to my tragic
heat death. Yeah no, but there's a lot of money
to be made. Actually, I mean, think about the infrastructure
that we built this country on, right, the railroads and
all of that. We have to rebuild it, which is
going to create a lot of money. So when Wall

(38:51):
Street is like, oh, these three huggy people, no, no, dudes,
there's a lot of money to be built in this right.
But I guess you're like, but we're we have way
too much momentum going from the old way we do it, Like,
that's kind of a stretch. Now we've got to give
up the fossil fields and improve our grid that can
barely handle any kind of new clean energy revolution. I mean,
it's just so much to spend money on. But yeah,

(39:15):
that's a huge task and would create a lot of jobs.
Is we have to modernize the grid in this country
to even have any meaningful conversation about how clean energy
is going to be part of our climate change solutions. Yeah,
tell him, tell him Penny about the grid. Yeah, Penny
didn't like that. Last point? Is fine? Real quick. So

(39:37):
I have a in depth understanding of the debt ceiling.
You mentioned that and like I'm kind of an expert
on it, but would you mind just for the listeners,
giving like kind of an overview of your of your
thoughts on on that whole debate, because I actually don't
know shit about it, but between you and me, just

(39:57):
between us girls, I don't I don't even know to
death ceiling is, but it does. The way we've covered
it is mostly like it seems kind of like arbitrary
thing that one party starts complaining about when the other
party's empower to try and funk up the economy while
while they have power, and like I get that there

(40:19):
are actual financial dynamics at work and like eventually, you know,
debtors have to be paid. But at the same time,
like I feel like it works off of this idea
of well, the US government is just another individual that
we should think of as like a financial like a
company or a person. And it's actually like, no, they

(40:42):
are the like they can print money, Like that's a
that's a pretty big difference between them and us. But
is there anything drastically wrong? But I just said there
Now I would like to have a money printing machine
as well. So the debt ceiling is the name for
the maximum amount of money, uh, the government is allowed
to borrow to pay their bills. So right now, the

(41:03):
debt ceiling is twenty eight point for trillion dollars casual, right,
so you might be thinking that's plenty of money, but no,
the debt is over twenty eight point for three trillion dollars.
So I lift up those couche cushions. Right, So the

(41:27):
national debt is a couple billion dollars higher than what
the government is allowed to borrow. So in situations like this,
you would raise the debt ceiling or for the government,
you know what, let's just borrow a little bit more
so we can pay what we owe or print that money.
But if the government can't decide, there is the deadline looming, guys,

(41:50):
I think it's December three, do you hear Penny, she's
very excited about this the government. If they can't decide
about the dead ceiling, that would bring the conversations onto
next year's budget to a halt. So if the budget
isn't agreed upon, then some federal services can't operate, and

(42:11):
then America goes into government shutdown. So government shutdown could
mean delays or pauses in Social Security payments, which are
really important to a lot of people, child tax credit payments, veterans, benefits,
you know, funding for folks affected by natural disasters, as
we talked about, nutrition programs for kids, paychecks for federal employees,

(42:33):
like all the things. You know, you can't go to
national parks or you can't go to the passport agency,
like all the government programs won't exist. So it doesn't
mean it's a complete shutdown. You know, there are essential
things like border control or air traffic controller, law enforcement,
but a lot of those employees don't get paid actually

(42:53):
until the shutdown is lifted. Cool cool, cool cool, Yeah,
all right, yeah, and it's all it's always good for
someone to default on their debts too, you know, like
that's the bringing the credit score down and then it
costs more jobs. And yeah, it's just a it's just
total chaos. But that's what's makes that's what makes it
so just just so stupid, because the debt is accumulated

(43:17):
under presidents of both parties, you know, and it's something
that they constantly have to do. But to suddenly act
like I don't know, Joe Biden, blah blah blah, it's like, well,
now you're completely mischaracterizing what's happening for the sake of
just like winning these cynical you know, rhetorical points for
a campaign. Well it wasn't just now. I mean remember

(43:37):
two thousand and eighteen, that was the longest government shut
down in history under Trump, it was thirty five days.
We don't want to go back there again. You know, one,
nobody wants to be working for free. And so if
the United States could actually default on its loans for
the first time, that creates a whole other cascade of issues,
you know, the stock market, the global economy. Yeah, important things, alright,

(44:01):
stake Yeah, I've heard of both those things. They must
be important. Stock market and the global economy. Damn. All right,
let's take a quick break and we'll come back and
talk about some bullshit. And we're back, and it's time

(44:26):
to talk about something called tall zoom energy, which is
a phenomenon that people are coming into contact with after
you know, working remote for a long time and then
seeing their coworkers in person for the first time or
just for the first time in a in a while
and haven't forgotten how tall they are, and realizing, wow,

(44:49):
you know, you your energy is more that of a
like six five person or more that of a five
eight person, and you are either way taller or way shorter. Um,
I expected, Yeah, it's I mean, this is apparently happening
a lot as many people go from just seeing you
on zoom too in physical space and more just like that.

(45:12):
It's also kind of like a lot of people like
kind of a weird backhanded compliment or can be a
compliment in other situations, but um, this in this article,
they talked to a few different people who are just
sort of talking about like the things that they went through.
One person who was working remotely ran into like one
of their like senior people from their company on a flight,
and the person was like shorter than they were, and

(45:34):
like this woman was like, I'm shut but I couldn't
believe that, Like this person was shorter than me. She says, quote,
I'm short, so I just kind of expect everyone to
be taller than me. I think at some level you
expect people who are higher up than you in the
company to be taller than you too. Decay, and it's
very limited thinking, But I think that's just some bizarre
way humans thing probably born out of like evolutionary ship.

(45:56):
But the presidents are usually tall, right, And on this flight,
she was like she was like, I have to know
everything about all the coworkers heights. Now this like for
this specific employee. They were like, they said quote, I
was like, I can't be surprised like this again, they said,
we had our five hour flight back to d C
together so we could really run through the full list
of everyone. Now what I mean, does she need some

(46:19):
work to do? Because I have some I could offer.
Hold on, you want to know what how height? What's
we work on those CPS reports real quick. But this
whole thing is like you know a lot of people,
when you let someone know like you're just OMG shocked
that they are shorter or tallerant. That can be taken
in a lot of different ways. Like I was saying,

(46:40):
if you're you know, if you're like, oh god, I
thought you'd be tallerant, Like, so what are you trying
to say about my height? And also what are you
saying that my height being what it is? What? What?
How does that affect anything for you? It sounds like
there's no good way to to make that statement, because
if you think I'm taller than I actually am based

(47:00):
on zoom, then that's like I'm well that is how
tall I'm so I'm stuck there. And if you think
I'm shorter than I turn out to be, then it's
like I give off the energy of like I give
off small energy. Yeah, so should we guess all of
each other's heights? Well, this is an interesting thing, right.
This researcher said that people actually have a really good

(47:24):
ability to clock someone's height just from a photograph. Like,
it's just a weird thing. I just like they're like,
I know, it seems odd what they can do it.
I just want to read this one tidbit before we
do try this exercise. A few years ago, they did
a study where they showed participants photos of people's faces
and asked them to guess the heights of the people
in the photos. Quote, we found a really high correspondence

(47:45):
between people's ability to tell how tall the people actually were.
The judgments are within an inch. This is just from
a black and white photo picture of someone's face. So
this is but this I think doesn't take away from
the tall zoom energy, and in fact, I think it
lends credence to it, because, first of all, like anybody

(48:05):
who has ever like watched a movie and then found
out how tall the movie star actually is knows that
this is a thing, right that like you just expect
people to be a different size than they actually are.
And I think like it's easier with a black and
white picture, a snapshot of a stranger. You, Right, We're

(48:27):
apparently able to just like get that, like bring that in.
But if you're meeting with them for hours a day
or just you're on a podcast with them, you start
getting like takeaways and like you start getting basically moved
away from the truth that you would have gotten from
a single momentary like black and white snapshot. So it

(48:51):
does seem like there is an energetic thing that is
hard to define, but that is real, you know. So look, Nicole,
you got you have a few context clues. Okay, go ahead,
enter your your answer for how tight I just set
up my had a frame. Sorry, I gotta make myself

(49:17):
so dang small for these rooms that the normans have
to operate. And how tall do you think Jack and
I are? Are you going to guess how I am? Yeah,
we'll go and then you you say, and we will
not react to what you say, and then we will
then give our answers back to you, and then we'll
say that I'm gonna burst into tears. I can tell
you that right away. Okay, then maybe we'll get Nicole's first.
That way, Jack doesn't give it away by bursting into tears. Nicole,

(49:41):
I believe you are between five seven or five nine. Um,
I was gonna go like six seven six three. I
was gonna go five seven stick. I've actually gotten that

(50:01):
a lot. When I see people I r L and
they've seen me on air or something, they say that
I'm I look taller on air, So I'm five four okay, Okay, yeah,
there it is. Maybe I have that tall. You got
that right at that between five seven and five nine
energy and a cool I don't know what it is

(50:24):
about you, but you get that's now. Okay, Now you go,
what do you think? How tall do you think Jack
and I are? Well, it's your all show, and I'm
just gonna come and I just do like you guys
are both six ft tall. That's the right that's the
right answer, that's the safe, right answer. But if you
want my honest, honest answer, yeah, Miles your five ten, yes,

(50:53):
and I want to hear Jack and Jack you're If
I say, like one of you guys taller, then it's
gonna be no. I look, we're not our toxic masculinity
comes out in very odd ways not understood. So Jack,
you're six Ah yeah, okay, okay, that that makes sense.

(51:15):
I'm gonna hold my tears in. This is so humiliating.
Miles is six to Miles is six too. And also
I always forget how tall he is when I when
I've been like yeah, and then I see, I'm like, wow,

(51:37):
he's a he's a strung six two and I'm five
ft three. No, that's not true. I'm six ft between
six ft and six ft one. So you really nailed Yeah.
Well I was gonna say yeah, I was gonna say
six across the board. Yeah no, even though you're like diplomatic,
like let me protect their fragile feelings, answer ended up

(51:58):
being right. So I appreciate it. But this whole thing, though,
it's interesting. In this other article, they talked about how
people who are really tall or really short actually appreciate
the mystery that zoom provides because it completely takes out
the oh wow, you're really tall, taller you, taller you,
or oh you're so short, oh you're so tiny, you know,

(52:20):
like that kind of ship. A lot of people like
in that sense, this sort of vague you know, uh,
sort of a nebulous concept of height that's given through
zoom actually has been an upside for these people. Like
this one woman who's a teacher was like a lot
of my teacher and a lot of my students they
don't know in five ten and so they just think
I'm the teacher or whatever, and like she's like, in

(52:42):
my mind, she's like I love it because she's like,
wait till you see me in the classroom if you
guys are talking like that, because I'm gonna tower over
your little kids. Well, you know what. I read an
article about how the zoom world has helped pregnant women
get raises more than they had before because you can't
see if somebody is pregnant, and so there's this idea

(53:04):
that once you're visibly pregnant, you know, consciously or subconsciously,
an employer things like you're going to take time off
or you know whatever, it might not want to invest
in you. But you can't see that either. Yeah, it's
just so funny. How many you know, whether it's like
zoom camera fatigue is like another thing that people experience,

(53:25):
or zoom based like body dysmorphia from like having to
stare at our faces for hours that has like plagued people.
Are you staring at yourself right now? Or no? No, no,
I might. I tracked my eyes pretty constantly. But there
are other times too where you'll I'll see myself and
then I'm like, you know, and like then it's like,
what the fun is this? Like this isn't northing used

(53:47):
to just being in a room looking at other people
without like in set screen of like what my face
is actively doing. So yeah, I mean it's just it's
this new era has given us all new ailments to
Now you usually do in person, keep a makeup mirror
going for most of the meetings just so I can
kind of have a quick quick I can. Yeah, and

(54:07):
the but but the magnified side because you like you
like you want to check your pores out and ship
do you bring a ring light? I don't always bring
a ring light, and that is on me. Yeah, opportunity. Alright,
let's talk about Google's new candy Halloween candy graphic, which

(54:28):
is bullshit as far as I can tell. Like last week,
we we talked about that map that looked at the
unique searches of candy and fifty states, or they try
to determine which candy was each quote unquote states favorite. Well,
Google just said, y'all on control the fucking data. Step aside,
and let us tell you what is the most searched candy.

(54:50):
And they said, look at this map, And they said,
I don't know why you're debating over fifty candies because
if you look at the most searched candies by state,
there are only two Eminem's and candy corn. If you're
going by what is getting the most, like that's just it.
Those are the highest searched candies, like that edge out
all the other ones. There was no variation, which is

(55:13):
really freaking me out. And where are the starbirths. They're not,
they're not, they're not They're definitely not reaching the height
of most searched candy. They're just saying, if you want
to say what the most searched candy in this period is,
in California, it's candy corn, or if it's Alaska, it's Eminem's, Wyoming, Eminem's.
Pretty much everywhere else is fucking candy corn. And this

(55:36):
this map, it's like it's more terrifying to look at
than the electoral map in when of my candy corn
has swept the nation? Or why do we think talking?
I think this is the best evidence we have that
because we are now because so much of our diet
is actually made up of corn in America, that like

(55:57):
corn has colonized our minds, and like we are now
just corn aliens who are doing the bidding of corn.
Because this makes no fucking sense whatsoever unless we've been
we have like a parasite that is telling us to
only only care about corn. I mean, on some level,
is it's showing that word despite the all the regional

(56:19):
things you think, It's like, deep down we're just these
corn based Americans no matter how you cut it, we
only think two candies exist or people just are searching
very specifically for two candies. I'm just trying to think
what would bring me to google candy corn? Candy corny

(56:40):
like candy corn. He dislike it. I've got a real
sweet too, candy corn content. It's just wax sweetness, That's
what it is. It's like, what if you like little
if you always wanted to eat a candle, this is
your chance. Oh you guys didn't see the fine print.

(57:01):
You see the small asterisks brought to you by Eminem.
We got to do something, folks. Candy corn is taking
the nation over. We gotta fight back, Patriots. And it's
like such a straw man thing, like they pick the
worst candy. Like everybody likes candy corn and not Eminem's.
I don't know, you guys, America, you're letting us. You

(57:21):
call the green Eminem's gonna be out of the job soon.
It's it's getting that buzz, that hype. Yeah, if it's
almost sold out, then folks think it's gonna be cool
and they're gonna go get it. I mean, I think
I I wonder if people search it, because also people
search it because they hate it and they're like, dude,
what's candy corn even made of? You know, because I
have this pattern I fall into every nearly every Halloween

(57:42):
where I will try a piece of candy corn, like
as if like I were a kid, being like this
is the year I will like, you know, Brussels sprouts,
like this is the year I would like candy corn
every time the hell I hate it. I'm disgusted by myself,
and but then I also search I am also like
weirdly interested in it. Like I found out that used
to call it chicken feet before they called it candy
corn in some places, So I was like, what the

(58:05):
funk is going with all this stuff? So I don't know.
I think we can search for the right and the
wrong reasons. Yeah, because it's not specifying if you're buying it,
you're just questions about it, Like I have questions also
about M and M's two. Yeah, like how many colors

(58:26):
are there right now? You know it's been around for
over a hundred years. Candy corn. Oh good lord, I
mean that makes sense. It's like the candy that they
came up with before they realized they could make it good.
It's like the neco wafers and like ship like the
dots that are just like sugar in various shapes and

(58:49):
forms and colors. I mean, you know, I I wonder
if this is one of the things keeping us back
from progress in the country. You know that we haven't
done away with candy corn. Like so much of our
what ailes our societally is our clinging to candy corn
still when it offers us nothing. It offers us absolutely nothing. Guys, Yeah,

(59:11):
just searched candy corn dog, sure answer do not feed
the pups at the candy corn. Really, I'm pretty sure
that's true of children and human adults too, Like, oh,
it's because it has zila tall in it. Interesting, Okay,

(59:32):
they say zilatol. It's it's in the candy corn. Not
good for dogs, all right, candy corn dollars. I want
to know the next word after candy corn that people
search right, candy corn just right, digestion, diarrhea, you know,
like candy corn, white supremacy. You know, that's kind of
what I'm looking at. Again, I'm like looking at something
just I don't know. It just doesn't make it makes sense, America.

(59:55):
Make it makes sense because it's I know, we don't
like it. Then the other map that they did was
also interesting. They were looking up uniquely searched Halloween drinks
by state, and this is like one that I like
because it's actually a bit more specific, like regionally, where
in Texas they're searching for the penny Wise cocktail. If

(01:00:15):
you live in New York, it's Halloween jungle juice. In California,
brain hemorrhage shot. I mean, these are guests, spooky things
to serve. But I like that ours has like the
most just gross fucked up like idea of it all,
like other ones. A lot of people search for blood
bag cocktails because I guess that's a big fun party drink.

(01:00:39):
But yeah, there's just a very interesting sort of mix
of things wrong with people. Yeah, there's a lot of
like you know, Harry Potter by of half blood prince cocktail.
I'm sorry they're allowing bloody mary as a as a
Halloween drink. I guess, I guess it is. I've never
really thought about that, but yeah, that is a Yeah,

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who looks so blood Tennessee, Virginia and Tennessee. I mean
that's that's the one that makes sense to me. But
I mean, which is Bruce seems right? Yeah, yeah, that
that fits. But I didn't realize that in Kansas, like
they're big on Harry Potter, Like that's the one where
half blood prince cocktail is and then South Dakota is

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the other. I guess cool j k rowing cocktail based
searches with butter beer. But that's my question, Google trends,
how do you know that what these people are searching
is for the drink version? What is there are a
bunch of crazy killers with the brain hemorrhad shot. Yeah,

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what if this is a whole other thing. How to
get how to get someone with a brain hemorrhate shot?
How to shoot someone and make it look like a
brain hemorrhage. Jello shots are just like like really like
bad nurses, like shift, They're like, I mean, fucking Arizona
is black widow? That is a deadly spider that is

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endemic to the state of Arizona. Like Miles nicely, let's out. Yeah, yeah,
oh no, a black widow. I mean if it's in,
if it's in the building, that's one thing. Yeah, But
like regular ones, you know, I will, I will, I
will escort them out very kindly. Vampires kiss in Louisiana.
I mean that just might be what what you're looking

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for on any given night. You know, a BlackBerry, lime juice, agave,
a nectar, basil leaves. That's I guess what is in
a black widow? But I don't know. Anyways, all hail
our Lord and Savior, Corn. It has been a pleasure
having you on the daily Zeitgeist. Where can people find
you and follow you? You can find me at Nicole Lapin.

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Wherever social media is served, you can listen daily to
Money Rehab, you know where to find it, wherever you
find your favorite podcast, And is there a tweet or
some of the work of social media you've been enjoying.
I have been enjoying. While we were talking about the
debt ceiling, I was thinking about one that I loved,

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asking the government if they had the audacity to give
us a credit score? Right, yeah, they are all in debt. Yeah,
m m m m hmmm. There you go, Miles. Where
can people find you? What the tweet you've been enjoying? Twitter? Instagram,
Miles of Gray. Also, if you like y fiance, check
out the other show for twenty Day Fiance with Sophia

(01:03:33):
Alexandra and I were, you know, just a couple of
immigrant kids watching this show being like kiss this, but
we love it. It's trash, So come back for that
Twitch dot tv slash for twenty Day Fiance. Tweet that
I like, there's a couple. Since we were just talking
about these weird cocktail recipes, Willie at Willie Staley tweeted
envy the younger generation that completely missed out on the

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bespoke cocktail revolution of a decade ago and knows it
only from Joe the jokes were all real. There were
really guys and suspenders who took ten minutes to make
a drink and they had mustaches. That's all true. That
was the only way you could drink a drink. I
feel like on Melrose at a certain point. Another one
which I really loved is from Jess Tom at Jess

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Tom to white people think all Asians come from either
Japan or China, which is ridiculous because as an Asian American,
I know all Asians come from either nor Cal or
so Cal. Uh and that just hit me right in
my so call Asian heart. So shout out to that tweet. Yeah,
you can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore Brian.

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A couple of tweets have been enjoying. Aaron McGuire Olson
tweeted the challenge I'm doing this month that's called October
and it's where I just try to get through every
day of October. And then Jimmy at Jimmy Infa tweeted
you're in his d MS. I'm not. I don't want
to talk to him, and I like that as the
one loves that construction. Yeah, uh, you can find us

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on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at the Daily Zeegeist
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the information that we talked about in today's episode, as
well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles,
what song are we sending people to go to? This
is uh again, we're talking about breaking genres. This is

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like an R and B future track. If it's like
as if someone was like trying to make R and
sample based R and B like in the Ashes of
an Apocalypse and all the how was scratched off th'angelo
CD to take samples from. This is called Shovel by
an artist called Fred Wave and for the t'angelo fans
of the album moo do. I say that because there's
a really spooky sample of the track Spanish joint that's

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being used throughout the track and a very like, I
don't know, very spooky way. That's the only way I
can describe it. So check this out. This is Shovel
by Fred Wade. All right, well, the Daily ze guys
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to do it for us this morning. But we're back
this afternoon to tell you what's trending, and we'll talk
to you all then. Bye. Lie,