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May 3, 2019 70 mins

In episode 384, Jack and Miles are joined by Natch Beaut's Jackie Johnson to discuss Taylor Swift's Billboard Music Awards performance, a Scientology cruise chip being quarantined over a case of the measles, William Barr ditching the House Judiciary Committee hearing, the salary you need to make in different cities in the US to be able to buy a home, Stephen Moore withdrawing his name for Fed nomination, Jacob Wohl coming for Pete Buttigieg and making up more stuff, the teachers strikes in the Carolina's, the Thai cave story coming to Netflix, the story of a manipulative man Larry Ray, and more!

FOOTNOTES:

1. Taylor Swift’s Billboard Music Awards Performance Raised Some Eyebrows

2. St. Lucia health authorities say cruise ship reportedly owned by Church of Scientology has confirmed case of measles

3. William Barr skips House hearing on the Mueller report

4. Mapped: The Salary Needed to Buy a Home in 50 U.S. Metro Areas

5. Stephen Moore out of Fed contention

6. ‘Make Sh*t Up’: Inside Jacob Wohl’s Bonkers Investment Plan

7. Thousands of North and South Carolina teachers are protesting -- but not just for the reasons you might think

8. Netflix & ‘Crazy Rich Asians’ Team Pact For Thai Cave Story

9. The Stolen Kids of Sarah Lawrence What happened to the group of bright college students who fell under the sway of a classmate’s father?

10. WATCH: Cid Rim - Control feat. Denai Moore (Official Video)

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season eighty, episode five
of Dirt Daly's Eyed Guys production of I Heart Radio.
It's Friday, May third, two thousand. This is a podcast
where we take a deep dive into America, share consciousness,
and say officially off the top coke industries and fuck

(00:20):
Fox News off. My name is Jack O'Brien, a k
oh Jack O'Brien. Yes, Jack O'Brien, Old Jack O'Brien, up
t dazy. Oh how I'd love to give an over
under to Jack O'Brien up t Deezy Jenner, and I'm

(00:44):
sure to be joined as always by my co host,
Mr Miles Brand. Oh yeah, bab, how was I supposed
to grow? The Zeke gang stands my problems? Old baby

(01:05):
and baby, I couldn't just lay you go And now
I'm out of dick. It'll show me how to cure
my e d Tell me Miles Gray what I need
to know about it, because my horning nous is killing

(01:28):
me and her majesty she can't believe that's when I
touched her. I shoot my load, give me a side
detail and helped my as a gray one more time.
Whoa oh, just such such a detailed peek into what

(01:54):
I'm in your world between the hours of five p m.
And nine A yeah, shout out to I mean, god, damn,
I just saw a bunch of like showing up and
was like, what the one? I said, Oh boy, I
think we have to show that one in some respect.
I mean that was that was beautiful. Thank you so much.

(02:15):
It was like and also, you know, just to clarify,
my problem isn't being a premature jacculation. It's the right
cost function. So I was a little bit of mash up,
but look for hims were still available if you want
to buy some ads with us, yeah, you know, but
maybe not for Roman whoever. Whoever. You know, you still
be problematic what we are sure to be doing in
our third by the hilarious comedian and podcast host and

(02:37):
beautiful singer. I just found out before we started rolling
the first time. Even Jackie Johnson, thank you for having
me bad. I was here in September. Yeah, you were,
and now you're just change. My hair is got way longer, right,
looks great? Yeah, thank you? What are you using? What's
your secrete? Honey? First of all, I host a show

(02:59):
called Natchbute all about beauty, skincare, makeup, self care. We
talked about hair a lot, but Jonathan Vanesse was on
attribute and really changed my life. Basically, I don't wash
my hair as much, huh. I sleep on a satin pillowcase.
I sleep with my hair on top of my head
in a satin scrunch at night to keep the heat
from your body off your hair. I started taking probiotics

(03:20):
and all the combination of those things. My hair grows
so fast and my hair never grew. It was it's
like that hair that just never grows. Honey, Yeah, I say.
I was like, she's got grown, has remy virgin in
And I was like, no, that's all hurt. No, this
is no. Yes, now not having like having hair that

(03:46):
grew slow? Was was that challenge that you wanted to
deal with, because that would be that would just the
way I would view that is saving money on haircuts
and coloring, because if I'm being honest, the grays are
coming for me. So that is part of it. It's
my cross to bear now. But it's fun to have growth,
you know, It's so why not change up that look?

(04:06):
And also, if Jonathan van Ness is out here giving
you the secret yeah, just do it. You can experience,
that's for sure. Well, I'm going out to get my
satin pillow case immediately after this recording. Is that what
it was said? Yes, well it's supposed to be silk,
but I don't use silk. So sounds fine. Yeah, so
does silk kill any animal? No, but it's a product

(04:28):
of they boiled. They boiled them alive and that kills them.
I mean, they're bugs. It's just where do you draw
the line. I don't know best. No, even though like
some people are coming down trying to say oysters are
vegan since nervous system, right, I mean, I just am
not a fan of them. Really, that's fine. I'm just curious.

(04:49):
Maybe I should just try one. I used to make
them when I worked at Accasion restaurant, Like I would
prepare them and they just always gross me out. Yeah
I would. I would pour the salt on them and
prepare them and put it on the little ice trays.
Maybe I should just eat one and see what if
it's like the best thing I've ever eat. You know what,
what's good? If you don't like them on the half shell,
grill them up right and just put a little barbecue
sauce on there, or a little what I like to do.

(05:10):
I mix saracha butter and lime juice. I know you
don't butter, So we can figure out. We've got a
lot of alternatives, a lot of alternatives, and then put
that on when the shell opens up, drop that in there,
and then I like any food that answers the question,
what if the Arctic Ocean came in your mouth? Yeah,
and that's what I feel like. Oysters are. Um, you've

(05:30):
been to the Arctic? Oh yeah, this is just I
was thinking of a cold I could have said the Pacific,
but I was gonna say I'm like, damn, they all cold. Now, Yeah,
I know by the Equator a little warmer than you
get the little tropical water climates. Yeah, but I mean
we all know that global warming is bullshit, right, So okay, yeah,

(05:54):
uh okay, Well we'll talk off, we'll figure it out,
all right, Jack. We're going to get to know you
a little bit better in a moment. First, we are
going to tell our listeners a few of the things
we're talking about. Miles. I love this first headline, wanting
you read it since you wrote it. I mean, this
is a phrase that's used a lot uh in black
media when talking about white people, but the caucacity of

(06:16):
it all. Indeed, Uh, Taylor Swift Man, I like her,
you know, I don't have anything inst to her, but
she really tried something at the Billboard Music Awards that
the internet was like, suck, Taylor, this is not It's
not happening. Uh, isn't it. She tried her best. Did
you watch the performance? Once I saw that little clip,
I was like, I am interested because when you see

(06:37):
a drum line and a pop star, you think, oh,
beach ella right uh, and it was not that. But hey, look,
you know I don't I'm not here to drag her.
I'm saying, look, you tried it, but unfortunately you you
did uh not the hottest version of the performance you
could have done right. So it was an homage, I'm
sure as how she would descritch. Yes, yes, that's what

(06:57):
I would think of it as. Yeah, the Scientology slave
yacht is being quarantined. We'll talk about that. That's a
real thing. But with Scientology you don't like you you
say something is a slave yacht and that that's real,
just literally. Uh. William Barr didn't show up to the
House Judiciary committee, Uh hearing. So we're gonna talk about

(07:20):
that how people are responding. Uh. We're gonna ask the question, Hey, Millennio,
I'll want to buy some home and the answer won't
surprise you. We're gonna talk about how the Daily Zeigeist
has claimed another scalp, Stephen Moore has withdrawn his name
from a consideration to be fed nominee. We're gonna look

(07:45):
at the just the wonderful world of Jacob wool Uh
shout out to the teachers of North Carolina, South Carolina
who are on strike, and Amazon's latest media venture. And
we will close out talking about an upcoming movie that
is shockingly it's shocking that it's already here. Yeah. Uh,

(08:07):
And just the wildest magazine story I've read in a
long time. Uh, New York Magazine's cover story about like
basically a real living, like active supervillain who has the
power to like brainwash people. It's pretty crazy. But first, Jackie,
we like to ask our guests, what is something from
your search history that's revealing about who you are? Well, first,

(08:29):
I'd like to say I was back here in September
and I had mentioned that I was looking up um
things to help with my plants because I was having
issues with some of my house plans, and one of
y'all's listeners, Melissa, sent me a product. So I just
want to shout out to her real quick. Her instagram
is Wormy Queen and her company is called Let It Rot,

(08:51):
so let it Rot, yes too, And she sent me
some wormpoop in a bag. What's more poop, it's fertilized
your plans. Yeah, I didn't even know that you could, Like,
how do you cultivate where she does? She has a
whole system you can farm worms. There's but I'm just thinking,

(09:12):
look and my dumbass mind, it's like, Okay, go to
the toilet, keep collecting. It's a litter box. It's like
a worm litter box, and then you scoop it. But anyway,
I just wanted to say that real quick. But um,
it's not just Melissa, she's our listener. Oh wow, I'm
gonna leave now. Yeah. Yeah, can you we need to

(09:34):
add a police siren? Yeah, so it's terrible. Although actually,
whenever I hear that in podcasts, very jarring when you're driving,
especially personal, so maybe not. Yeah, I don't like weird
um non diagetic sounds okay my search history of late
Blink Win eighty two set list, what's going on? Well,
just leoking back at some all time great counts. I

(09:54):
think that phrase just really sums me up as a
person um number one. I'm super UPTI so I like
to know what I'm getting into before a concert. So
I'm like, Okay, what what what's gonna be the encore?
Do I need to leave early? Like I like to
know what's coming? But I just sobblingly too. On Saturday,
Play at the Beach um the Back to the Beach

(10:15):
fest in Huntington Beach and uh, I googled the set
list and it wasn't up because this was an off show,
you know, they didn't have like a planned set list.
I was like, what are they gonna play? They played
Enema of the State front to back and it was awesome.
Damn that lineup, the used Golden Real, big Fish. I'm

(10:35):
telling you it was fine. Aquabets, yeah, damn, m should
have been there, Yeah it was. It was right. Okay,
back to the beach. That's right, I see you. Back
to the Beach. So in your mind, if you hadn't
known the set list, what what's the anxiety that you get.
I mean I saw them in November when they were
in Vegas for the residency, and they played a lot

(10:56):
of their new stuff, and you know, i'd say the hits,
and so I assume that's what they would do, and
I was just kind of curious if they were going
to pull something crazy, if they were going to go
with just their rehearse set list from their Vegas show.
So they blew my damn mind when they started up
playing it Don't Leave Me, you know, like they played
Animals Stay all the way through Matt Scheba play with

(11:17):
Yes from alcalin Tria. Yes, so they're what two thirds
of the original? Yes? Yeah? Tom is gone? Yes, well
he bankrupted his space academy, so yeah there's yeah, you know, listen, Tom,
You'll always be my boy. But they've parted ways and
I respect that, you know. Matt Skiba does great. Yeah,

(11:37):
I don't know any of these songs or people's names.
Matt from Alcalin Tria bro oh right, yeah, of course,
my bad. But anyway, if you sliced me open right now,
pop punk would flow out and flood this beautiful table.
So what happens with like when aliens exist? Happens. Matt
Skiba sang it, which felt a little uncomfortable if I'm

(12:00):
being honest. I was like, this is Tom's feels like
a little bit of transgression. Yes, it did that. That
did kind of bother me. But no, he sings all
the Tom songs, which is interesting, but he doesn't do
like a Tom impression, which I kind of wish he did. Yeah,
especially like when you're hearing the band something similar, not
because then it starts sounding like a cover band, right

(12:20):
with just Travis and Mark? Right, do you ever take
advantage of the fact that you know the set list
ahead of time and like the second the first note
like strings plus out the name of the song, don't
it's super fan. I don't do that. But it's because
I'm not an asshole. But there's so many concert assholes,
that's all it is. Now. This guy was filming the

(12:42):
whole thing on his phone, and I was like, you're
never gonna fucking watch that. Put the phone down, enjoy yourself.
I always wonder about people who like will record the
whole show. I'm like, are you with your little blown
out microphone gonna like put just go? Yeah? I remember,
I think that's like an x esstential, like they're having
a philosophical issue with existence where they're like, I must capture. Yeah,

(13:05):
I think it's an unwillingness to acknowledge the transience of like,
but it's also like this guy was putting it on
his instat story and I'm like, nine people are going
to watch this. Dude, cut the phone down and listen
to Matt Skiba saying aliens exist to modify something that
he's enjoying. I know, right well, that was that was
me when I saw like three eleven and motherfucking Third

(13:29):
Eye Blind and s at that wacky as concert. Like,
but I mean, did every band have a three in
the name? Almost Yeah, going to that concerts all about flexing.
I mean that's yeah. You just Pilot's Third Eye Blind,
fucking ever Clear. Oh the singer broke doesn't have cancer?
The singer ever Clear? Yeah, I think I think Art

(13:51):
said he has uh, he was diagnosed with cancer. Ship
I love them. I saw them last year. They did
so much for the afterglow MS. No he said he
has MS ship Man, Yeah, you are yeah out the art.
What is something you think is overrated? Jackie overrated? Um?
I have bath bombs bath bombs. Y'all know about bath bombs.

(14:15):
Fox with those bob bombs. Look across you, superducer anasnated
a bath bomber over here, the BA bath bomber. Bath
bombs for people who don't know they're round, well, they
don't have to be round, but they're made of oils
and yummy things and you drop them into your bath
and they make colors and foam and they moisturize your
body and they smell nice and to soak in it.

(14:37):
You're supposed to soak in it and enjoy yourself. It
looks like a cake pop kind. Yes, they're very they're
pretty expensive. Does not taste like But my thing is
they're supposed to be relaxing, right, But once you drain
the water, your bathtub has a ring complete garbage going
around it, oily gross like little pedals and like your

(15:00):
pretty skin cells a layer on your fucking bath And
like this wasn't relaxed me. Now I gotta scrub this
bathtop out my hands. I mean they're like six box
having boxed ten box. It depends on where you get them.
But I'm like, you know what, this was not relaxing.
I gotta call it down made if it's all like,
has all these oils and ship in it. When you're done,

(15:20):
do you then have to rinse yourself off again? Or
can you just pull up straight out of the bath?
I could pull straight out though, and then the bath
is slippery, so if you don't tell anybody and then
they get in, they can fall in. Yeah, bath mombs,
you're not relaxing. So what do you use? I mean,
it's well, I've been doing a coffee scrub lately. That's

(15:43):
been exciting. Coffee, Yeah, scrubbing it on your body. Well,
there there's other things mixed, but yeah, coffee scrub. I've
been using this like Japanese body brush. I've been trying
to like because I feel like I'm all about the
neck up as a woman in my thirties, neck up.
But now I'm trying to focus more on the skin
everywhere else, even it out, give it more love, you know.

(16:05):
So just cream up and as I said last months here,
everybody wears on screen every day. Up, cream up, cream up,
honey neck down, cream up. Yeah. I think that's a
country song. Yeah. What is something you think is underrated?
Washing your hands properly as underrated? Yes, I feel as

(16:25):
a society, nobody is washing their hands long enough. Because
I'm in the bathrooms, I see everybody gone YouTube and
type in how to wash your hands because no one's
doing it right. You just get them wet, put some
soap on it, get get them wet enough to get
the soap off, and walk out. Right is you get up,

(16:47):
you're done doing your business the toilet, you turn the
sink on, you wait for whatever the time you think
the people outside the bathroom believe it takes for you
to actually wash your hands, turn the water off, and
then just kind of go like this on the way out,
so they think you wash your hands and that's how
you do. Okay, you joke, but that's how everyone probably doesn't.
And no, we we must wash our hands better. You know,
colden flues or at an all time high. We're all

(17:10):
worried about getting all these things going around. So I'm saying,
everybody just be more careful and take more time to
wash your hands properly. Look it up. I'm telling you
not to brag. Okay, I haven't gone sick in two years.
I haven't gotten a cold, I haven't gotten a flute.
And I attribute it to the fact that I washed
my hands properly. Okay, give us some pointers, like I

(17:31):
know that you're supposed to, uh get it for the
length of Happy Birthday to you or something twice Happy
Birthday to you, whole song out loud at the top
of your lungs. It's sort of like going to read
the Franklin version, like draw it out, milking this Happy
Birthday to you, ye exactly, yeah, yeah, and they get

(17:58):
the thing I poke up. I don't get it really
high up my arms. So that's people. But the one
thing I did pick up is when I used to
be at the orthodonist, I saw how my orthodonist would
wash his hands and he would always rub his fingertips
like this, and I was like, as a kid, because
I just you know, you kind of do like the
just rub your palms together type ship like that, and
I was like, how can you do this? He's like,
because it's your fingertips and that's you touch everything with these,

(18:19):
and he's like really, and I was like, oh shit, right,
And I know this sounds like germophobia, but it's you
gotta get underneath your nails, your nail beds, between your
fingers between if you have jewelry on in between your rings, like,
twist your rings, get about get those jewels out? Yeah? Rings? Right, baby,
you know what you do? Someone should make a track
that you play to wash your hands. Yeah, the timer

(18:43):
app could be a lot more lit. We're trying to
we're trying to sell a new product. Okay, Jackie got
the voice. Okay, I'm so down. That's great idea. Um, yeah,
we can do a different notable person whose birthday it
is each day? Oh shit, okay, and that that could
be an app. Yeah, I'm all right, Well everybody write

(19:04):
that down. So then for today it would be God,
there's no one with good Oh it's James Brown's birthday,
and you would say it like James Brown. What is
a myth? What something people think is true? You know?
To be fault? This is again a naturribute specific everybody

(19:24):
suffers from chap lips. What are we told? How are
we told to solve this? We put lip bomb on? No,
that makes it worse. It does. But here's what I'll
tell y'all. Lip bomb doesn't do ship. Really, the only
way to get your lips unchapped is to stop putting
lip bomb on. Really, Yes, lip bomb trains your lips

(19:49):
to be more chapped, so you keep using it. It
supplies things that your body isn't naturally used producing. Right,
So if you want to stop the chap lips, leave
your lips tough funk alone. So how do you keep then?
How do you get them ships past chat? You leave
them alone? You suffer. You sit there and just say,

(20:10):
my lips hurt. They're burning and slowly, but surely they
will heal themselves. Really, Yes, I've done so many experiments, man,
because as a kid, I would always I would be
that kid with like the chat room, because I already
be like stuck in the top lip because I'm like
ship burns. But how chap were your lips all the time?
It would it would come in waves like the weather.

(20:30):
Then it would really suck me up. But then I thought,
but that's true because the second the ship starts wearing off,
it immediately comes back. I'm telling you, put the lip
bomb down. So what there's a natural healing process. I
just think, I just think, leave, let your body do
its thing. Sometimes you don't need to intervene, but you
should be drinking more water. That's probably. And at night

(20:53):
I'm okay with putting an oil on or you, but
fuck lip bombs, So then you use coconut oil or
something if you're to just get a little quick moisturize
at night. But you don't, you got to get off it.
How many people we all know that guy with the
chap stick that literally every five minutes, he's got a problem.
He needs he needs to It's an addiction, yes, but

(21:14):
it's the product. The product is going on prompus. You
know what I mean? Right, My my little home remedy
is I use other people's lip moisture. I just do
a lot of kissing, cute gross in the winter months.
That's why I miss a lot of shows. I'm not

(21:37):
gonna make it any Yeah, you all have great lips,
So do you all use chap or lip ball? I
try and drink water, not at all, That's what I'm saying.
I do in the winter, man, because sometimes just fuck
my ship. But then that is a good point, because
it's weird. You do become dependent. So I think I'm
gonna switch to coconuto because I have a shipload of

(21:58):
that in my house and I've been using that more
on my body. Yes, coconut oil is like that. People
are using that for everything now right, I mean everything? Yeah, everything,
I mean everything. I mean no, I don't get it. Anyways,
We're gonna take a quick break. We'll be right back
with Taylor Swift. And we're back, and let's talk about

(22:31):
Taylor Swift performance. Yeah, you know, what do you think?
I her new single just in general, this me song? Wow,
I like panic at this go Yeah, But I'm not
really I don't care. It's like whatever, I've ceased to
get angry by pop music. I'm like, I'm at that
age where I'm like, you know what, list what you want? Man,
Like I'm gonna yeah, because I've i think from doing

(22:53):
this show too, I have a million things I can
be angry about, right or upset by or offended by.
And so I'm like, I remember, for I used to
have a real hard line against Taylor, like man funk
Taylor Swift, I don't give a ship. Yeah, but now
I'm just like, yeah, whatever, dude, you know to try
and do Beachella two point though, right, do your thing.
Some people different. I'm like, I don't care. I'm not

(23:14):
just not Like, how could she think after that Netflix
special that she could get out there on stage with
her weird. You know, uh Johnson and Johnson's baby shampoo
colored outfit on or whatever that pink is. What's that one?
Yeah pepped up anyway, So uh yeah, I look, you know,

(23:34):
drumline cool. They were playing that. They were doing their
thing and not even close to as funky as the
buzz from Beachella's ship. But you know, I think, I look,
is it is there? The homage? Is it her being
like planning this for months and then the thing comes
out and she's like, Oh, I'm gonna look fucking dumb
out there because it just came back to remind people
about this drumline aesthetic. But you know, it was more

(23:57):
fun to see the bee Hive come out and just
be like, how dare she? She just got ripped up
on social Oh yeah, people running may. I think she
did it on purpose to get people to tweet about it.
That's everything is contrived. It's like, oh, I know what
I'll do. I'll do something and then everybody we'll talk

(24:19):
about it, and then my album's coming out and everybody's
gonna want to hear this song. I mean, it's all
part of the machine. Sure does I think the song
is good? Like what really I actually liked the video.
Somebody somebody showed it to me and they were like,
this is so offensive, and I was like, it's like

(24:39):
so extra everything that I don't mind it. I mean,
it's cute, it's a cute song. It's weird because I'm
just such a purist when it comes to Taylor Swift,
like I love a country tailor. I love I love
the Tim mcgrawl. You see Tim, I hope you hear that? Wow?

(25:02):
Wow do you see zy gang? See how terrible her
voice was? Why you keep tuning into our show before?
She's right in my range? But I love a country tailor,
and I you know, when she got all spooky with
her like look what she made me do, It's like
I appreciate a woman, you know, evolving with age and
the experience. But this was an interesting turn the like

(25:23):
cheesy happy Taylor. You know that's overly cheese. But just
in the in the pop music playbook of rolling out
an album, your your single, it's gotta hit fucking every dimension,
you know what I mean, it's gonna be broad as possible.
Well this does that lure them in and then you're like, okay,
now album and maybe only three songs are for you.
But and this is like a genre of music that

(25:45):
I now have to be into, which is like just
the happy song that's for everyone from age like one
to ninety and like, so this is like you know
that justin Timber, like the kids at the feeling. Yes,
it's like that. That's my son's favorite. Yes, my for
and Happy by Farrell Happy like this fits right in there.
And there are a lot of songs that try to

(26:06):
do that. This will be a wedding song. People are
gonna sucking grind to this. It's gonna be embartments for videos,
Botts for videos. Look What You Made Me Do? Song
was terrible. Look What You Made Me Do? I liked
the reputation album a lot, did you? Yeah? I didn't
even listen to it all the way through. I have
an opinion. So yeah, Taylor's for some people. All right. Well,

(26:26):
I am a woman in her thirties who's white. So
Taylor is my you know, I'm her target demo. So
I I can appreciate a lot about nine. Yes, take
that an episode the best about Honey, Welcome Taylor, Hey girl,

(26:47):
cream up down, better wear your screen, Taylor, better foot
on every fucking day, let's talk about Zen News measles
yacht Yeah as they were great at yes, right, so
that is right A a cruise ship called the Free

(27:09):
Winds that is owned by Scientology. It's currently docked in St.
Lucia with its passengers and crew being quarantined. Yeah, quarantined
because one of the crew was diagnosed with measles. So
let's talk about who who the crew is on this
because crew kind of suggests a paying john. Yeah, you're like,

(27:31):
oh wow, probably got like seasoned people who work yacht
season and the good benefits. Yeah. So these are people
who signed a billion year contract to be part of
the Sea Org, oftentimes when they're younger than eighteen, and
they work three hundred sixty five days a year for

(27:52):
little or no pay, uh, doing things like shining Tom
Cruise's motorcycle. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah and cleaning this ship. Yeah.
I guess what, man, They're becoming more clear every day,
you know, and toil and this weird Earth dimension I'm
hanging out with dreadlocked aliens from Battlefield Earth. Yeah, so

(28:12):
I mean, yeah, the Seaquark is running that ship, and
you know, when you kind of look at the culture
around Scientology, and l Ron Hubbard's distaste for acknowledged science.
You know, the Church doesn't have a stance on vaccines,
so I think we know where this is going a
lot of people in scienceology happen to also be anti vaxers,

(28:33):
so you don't it doesn't surprise me that their little
ship of fools turns into a possible contagion. Maybe this
these two problems take care of themselves. Yeah, we'll see.
I mean apparently like there are people speculating that Scientology
was really trying to cover this up because they were
just in Curasal, I think before and in that port
they had found out that the crew member had measles.

(28:56):
But they're usually so transparent. Yeah, so how do you
get on this yacht? Like is it is it like
a vacation? It's like for the high higher up, David
mis Cabbage, Tom Cruise, like the level the level eight
s sir, Yeah, yeah, like O T three s. Yeah
that was what it was trying to remember how it operating?

(29:17):
Even so, no sps allowed, No, definitely, no squirrels, no, no, nothing.
I'm surprised Tom Cruise even needs a yacht because can
you just like walk above the water like doesn't. Isn't
that how he's caught on that broke boy? I think
he's because he's even higher than the highest you know

(29:38):
what I mean. So do you think Tom uh, let's
talk about you. What's your daughter? William Barr? Yeah, had
a interesting showing with the Senate yesterday. The Republicans were
out here caping for him, just being like case closed,
case closed, this guy. This is a smear campaign, yes,

(29:59):
and then the real thing we need to investigate is
Hillary Clinton. They're still on Hillary Clinton. Man, they still
love to bring her name. They need a new angle.
She is a unemployed senior citizen. Yeah, but living her
best life. Yeah, No, she's fine. But just let her
read her paperbacks and you know, retire, hang out with

(30:19):
her grandkids and Pete Davidson. I don't know if you
saw that photo. No, we'll talk about that later. Um. Yeah,
we're hanging out. And didn't you get a tattoo of her? Yes?
But Kamala came for him, and I think that left
a bad taste into his mouth. Well, he had always
been saying, I'm not going to come to the house
because you're gonna make lawyers talk to me. And this
has never happened, which is a lie. Uh. There were

(30:41):
Republicans on the committee were also like, it's unprecedented. I've
never It's like, what are you talking about? You had something,
you had a lawyer cross examined Christine Blasi Ford. I
don't act like this isn't some this is some new
This is totally appropriate and there's nothing untoward about this,
aside from having counsel there to actually give like a
proper record and effective line of questioning. And the Republicans

(31:03):
are welcome to and use their counsel as well to
you know, ask Bill Barrson questions. So he was shook,
and yes, when you look back yesterday, we hadn't quite
seen what Kamala what she did with her time, but
she shook the man down and basically had him admit
that he had not even looked at any of the
underlying evidence of the Molar report that he oh, I

(31:25):
gave of one of the worst answers when she asked,
just directly, has anyone at the White House or the
President himself asked you or suggested that you investigate something
or someone suggest He's like, I'm can you repeat the
It was bad. Corey Booker was trying to laugh. Sir. Yeah,
he just like went they talked about it's like, okay, inferred, well,
I don't know, suggested, I'm just trying to think of

(31:49):
and then she was moving on to the next question.
He was like, you know, I mean, she was like, sir,
I'm asking questions here. She's just she's so good at
being a cop. Is a cop, which is my favorite
thing for somebody to be, but she is good at it.
She makes it look easy. Yeah, and it's a ski
and especially with that like black woman sort of like
iron steely look, because she just had them bored eyes

(32:10):
when he was trying to like's like, so you don't know, okay,
next question. Yeah, so exactly the uh southing today he
clearly he said he was gonna show up because he
doesn't want to talk to legal counsel. Obviously that there
are threats of a subpoena, but I mean, I don't know,
that's just gonna be a thing that's probably gonna play
out in the court and not necessarily mean like instant results.

(32:32):
So you know, Jerry Nadler took the time to just
like read off a list of William Barr's like greatest
failures as attorney general and uh Steve Cohen from the
Great State of Tennessee to state right, it's not a
colm Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, I don't know, man.
He came in and even he brought in a bucket
of Kentucky fried chicken and like a ceramic figurine of

(32:53):
a rooster, not even Tennessee fried chicken. Yeah, Kentucky. I know,
that's how much he was trying to say, Bess Memphis anyway.
Uh he then I don't know. I guess the joke
was like you see he's chicken. Oh yeah, you know
how these democrats owning them with these dad jokes. Yeah,
it's uh cool then, like so it was. It was

(33:15):
over very quickly. Uh you know. I think people again
just be on the lookout, man, because William Bard he
needs to have his ass impeached or he needs to
resign because that I mean, good lord, he's just out.
He has no credibility. He is such an aggressive liar.
And after everything that happened yesterday, I mean, the GOP,
come on, man, like, there's got to be at least

(33:36):
one of you who's like, yeah, that was a bad look. Nope,
except for Chris Wallace on Fox News. He on Fox
one person who seems to like still have a wormhole
through to the alternate dimension that the right knows as reality,
because he seems to every once in a while just
be like, wait a second, Yeah, sometimes he'll do something

(33:56):
real Fox News, have some real Fox he takes, but
this time he really He warned the viewers on Fox
that the opinion people, some even on this network are
trying to, you, like, be disingenuous about what is going
on here. And so it was interesting to see Chris
Wallace kind of be like, yo, the other please only
listen to some of us. Maybe, but again, we'll see

(34:19):
what happens. I mean, the whole, the whole game plan
of the White House at this point is just to like,
let's not cooperate to the point that we have to
go to court, and we'll just drag this out and
maybe by the time anything happens, we'll move on to
the next candle. So I have a question for you both.
So I said, if you sliced me open, pop punk
would flow out. If we sliced open William Barr, what
do we think would be inside? Oh god, God, heard,

(34:42):
Let me really think about this I think it would
be like itchy seventies couch filling, like as best us.
You know, something that gives you definitely. Yeah, I'm trying
to think. I'm really looking at him and if I
do that, take a slice, because he kind of looks
like a corrupted Teddy ruxpin, which would probably have I

(35:08):
think like if you ever bought a bucket of toll
House cookie dough and you left that in the sun
for three weeks and then he burped it and took
a hint of that, it's like that rotting cookie dough.
I feel that would would just be like gashes. Yeah,
oh yeah, what do you I see? What I'm thinking
is a gas because he's all hot air this guy,
you know, I think it'd just be pure, pure fried

(35:33):
chicken in there, my right, Guys, he's a chicken. Uh
all right, Yeah, let's tell you that didn't go well.
I liked it. I did too. Yeah, take that thank
you good one in your face. Bar Now we won't
have to impeach him. He'll just resign. It would be

(35:53):
so ashamed after that tone that just happened on this podcast,
You'll never listen to. So guys in these United States
of America. Uh that somebody did a took a look
at how much you have to make, like salary wise
to be a home owner, and it's pretty wild. Yeah,

(36:15):
I mean, look, home home prices are rising and interest
rates are mortgage rates are also hitting seven year highs.
So it's making it's very hard to buy a home
right now, especially when you're a younger person, because we
are in a funk. We don't what then was going on. Uh.
And people are many people across the country are underpaid.

(36:36):
Uh And so home ownership is becoming a thing that's
slowly becoming more and more out of reach. But yeah,
visual capitalists, they just made a like sort of a
chart of like the major metropolitan areas in the country
to show what kind of salary you would need to
even buy a home. Uh And and it's depressing. So
let's just go from the top. Number one. San Jose

(36:57):
median home price one point two million your monthly payment
with for your mortgage payment dollars. So you would need
a salary of over slightly over a quarter of a
million dollars to be a homeowner in San Jose, San Franciscan. Yes,
that's median. Just yeah, I mean that's how much money
I make. So yeah, and yeah, you're doing great. Uh,

(37:18):
San Francisco you need to make about a hundred thousand,
San Diego a hundred thirty one thousand, l a hundred
twenty three thousand. Then it's like so once you get
out of California, then it drops one oh six Boston,
one oh five New York City, etcetera, etcetera. But the
thing that like the cheapest metro areas number one Pittsburgh

(37:39):
salary needed thirty seven thousand with a monthly payment eight
seventy dollars. I'm buying my ticket to Pittsburgh's I gang yo,
Let's do it, baby, because I want to go to
Promancy Brothers and get a sandwich and I'll just eat
that every day and I will live in Pittsburgh. Fuck it.
I'm I'm black and yellow literally black and japan Um.
And then what Cleveland, Oklahoma City, Memphis, Indianapolis, Louisville. Those

(38:03):
are both great towns man, Pittsburgh and Cleveland, great towns,
great food. Great what's that pork sandwich in Cleveland? I
don't know, man, I know there's one in that market there.
I see. I watched so much like traveling around the US,
things like I know cities by like this ship I
would eat there. I'm like, oh Cincinnati, what is it?
Diners driving and Skyline Chili gold Star Chili. Okay, I

(38:23):
was gonna Ston's choice. Where should I buy a house?
What's Vegas? Like? I feel like I could funk with
that life Vegas. That's cheap, right, I mean comparative to here,
That's not what the house costs. Austin is seventy nine, uh,

(38:44):
Miami seventy nine. One question I used to have is
like who's living on in all the homes if people
are paying this much? And we found out we covered
in a past episode about how a lot of like
hedge funds and banks are buying up the houses and
just like rent them out right because uh, you know,
like even Chinese companies are buying up a lot of

(39:06):
the real estate because you know they were when the
economy ship the bed, like the only people who got
hooked up were giant banks and hedge funds and corporations
sold market. Let's scoop up all these homes. And you
know what else, Airbnb is ruining the housing market as
well because people are keeping their apartments and illegally subletting

(39:31):
them on Airbnb and therefore creating a housing crisis, and
there's less apartments open, so then they raised the rent
more because nobody's moving in and out and they want
those damn deposits. There you go. I'm over all that
you're telling me, sister, But luckily you got that quarter
of a million dollar in right, I can airbnb anywhere? Alright?

(39:53):
Stephen Moore gone gone, Yes, we came together covered his
is hot takes, Oh god on the NZ double A tournament,
being too womany womany Yeah, and then making jokes about
the Obama's and about a black family that kicked out

(40:14):
of straight up racist What is it even funny? When
he's like, I thought, you know, the public, I think
that's funny. So like, oh so in what's funny to
you are destitute people or people without means who need
public housing. The idea of them being kicked out, it's
funny to you, even if it's not about the Obama's,
Like that as a concept is funny. Yeah, he opened
a speech by retelling a racist joke he heard and
he's like, I really love that, and even yeah, did

(40:37):
they not have somebody proof? Read before they go out there. Right,
It's it's like Taylor with this drum line, It's like,
did you not clear this with anyone? Has anyone's been
had their eyes open? Left? Yeah? Did anyone see the
people coming in and out with the drums? And? Okay?
Like actual corporations And I think like most political places

(40:59):
and political organizations like go like do a deep fact
checking on a deep like vetting process. Not at this point,
because it's all swamp ahead baby, right you know what
I mean, Like not with this, not with the Trump administration. No, no,
no no, because they can't beggars, can't be choosers. And
like everybody wants to every person who's getting nominated for

(41:20):
like a like a position that's like of any significance.
They all have ties to like the lobbying or the
industry that this body used to regulate or something. So
it's just they don't care. I mean, fucking Herman Kane.
We already knew he was trash from the get go.
So but I guess at this point, now that the
Overton window is completely blown up, they'll just sneak in

(41:41):
someone else who's just not as bad, so comparatively, they're
like well it wasn't Steven More but just equally as
unqualified and unfit to do it, which is probably this
was probably all part of the plane, all right. And
then Jacob Wall just talking about other right wing nonsense.

(42:02):
So first we have the pee boota judge trap that
he tried to set, where not really a trap, just
he was trying to pay gay Republicans to lie and
say that peep boota judge sexually assaulted or harassed them. Yeah.
I don't even know if someone were even gay, but
I think there were going after them, and even just
like anyone to be like, hey, well anyone willing to

(42:22):
just say peep bout judge assaulted them, right, And the
fucking way they were trying to sell people like look, man,
once you come out with your story, then all the
other people will come out of the woodwork too. That's
just how it works, rather than like not thinking like
because they must operate in a world where they truly
believe that accusers of like anyone who's accusing somebody of
assault is just lying, right, So they're like, yeah, that's

(42:44):
the game you lie about, And then other people will
lie to to kind of create this wave and it's
not that actual people are going through our victims of anything.
I can't that's too Yeah, no, I'm sorry to even
say something like that, but that's really the feel that's
the logic I think is being applied, because it's so
fucking like it's devoid of any kind of reason or
logic or rooted in reality. That simply the idea like yeah,

(43:07):
once you do it, the other people just come out
right and that or they are just they can't conceive
of a man who hasn't committed like serial sexual less
and they're like, yeah, well we'll just find the people
who he's sexually assaulted. Obviously, I'm he can't fall with
my boy Pete. Yeah like that. Really, he seems much fundraisers,

(43:33):
A lot of fundraisers. Google it, sweetie. Everybody's going to
be here. Everybody's fundraiser. But another Daily Beast report Daily
Beast I think, uncovered the first story, and they also
then uncovered a pitch he made to investors in the
spring on a scheme to use fraudulent news stories to

(43:55):
manipulate political betting markets. Um so, basically, he would and
and he claimed the way that he would do this,
that he claimed the way he would do. This would
be to quote and this is quoting him make ship
up to profit from bets on political races. He just said, yeah,
we'll make shut up. So it's like they're just not

(44:18):
they're not good at this, and they're not even trying
to not be the bad guy. It reminds me of
the guy from fire The Firefest guy right right just
would make shut up and lie. And but I feel
like he got two points where like maybe for a
couple of hours each day he believed his own bullshit,
whereas like these guys I think are just like, yeah,

(44:39):
we're evil. We're evil, bro like high five in each
other and like, you know, I mean it's sad when
you like you you actually are someone who has no
ideas and you're trying to keep your career moving or something,
so you just keep going down the ladder to like
the lowest common denominator and eventually just end up at evil. Right,
He's like a fucking my brand was just literally, can

(45:00):
you pay me money to quote and make ship up?
You know what do you think you are? An improviser? Hey?
Look at that um And then we're locked in right now.
I mean, we've all taken uz yeah, I think he
would be better ground links because I think he likes
to wear wigs. Yeah, he can't play it real. See

(45:20):
that's a difference. You gotta keep it ground, you of
your intelligence and come in on on eleven, not even
a ten. Don't come in on a three. No one's
gonna notice you entering the scene. Uh. And then real quick,
we want to give a shout out to the teachers
of the Carolina's North and South North and South Caliphonic
who are on strike. Yeah, and their demands are just outrageous.

(45:47):
I don't theirs. Their demands are like, wait, you guys
don't already have that? Yeah. Look shout out to Joey
on Instagram why I'm so great, because he was like, Yo,
can you cover this? Because yeah, normally we talk about
all the teacher strikes and I do want to mention
this again because God, it's the same ship every time, right,
it's not you know, for the people who don't want

(46:08):
to pay them, they want to act like, oh, well,
you know, we're giving them the opportunity to like have
input on the bill when their demands are very clear
and there's nothing they're asking for that is too much,
especially when you consider they're taking care of our fucking
children and in most cases making sure they aren't totally
dumb as fun in most cases, but in because first

(46:30):
of all, South Carolina they hate unions. Okay, so the
teachers can't really strike, but they the teachers are asking
for a ten percent raise. Great, so they're so they're
closer to the national average right now, they're not the
ranked thirty eight and teacher pay which like they couldn't
even buy a house exactly does that go back to
the Civil War? Them hitting unions because I don't know,

(46:50):
all right, what else I just now got that? Can
I get a bomb? Just for how long it took
me to ye? Like, oh, you know, yes? Uh. Then
they're also banning They also want to ban retaliation against
teachers for making public policy comments because they feel that

(47:12):
there's been a lot of things where lawmakers were retaliating
when teachers would speak out publicly. They want more mental
health counselors. They feel like they're there's just not enough
support for children there. They're like, oh, what do you
think this is club men socialism? Uh? And then North
Carolina it's more of the same, you know. They want
more librarians psychologists like support staff to make their jobs easier.

(47:32):
Fifteen dollar minimum ways for all school employees, you know,
five like just just the basics. It's not with librarians.
I mean, who's ever. And then also that every um,
every teacher who has been teaching for over five years
gets a brand new Bugatti. Right, Yeah, that's like, okay,
maybe that was a little a little bit of but
I mean this is the ship that like if you like,

(47:55):
I grew up going to public schools and like we
had a librarian like that, Like that was pretty standard.
I don't think I knew of any school that like
didn't have a librarian. My librarian was also the lunch lady.
And I'm just kidding. They would double dip a little bit.
My theater teacher was my biology teacher too. Yeah, but
they do. But I get that because they're probably they're like, well, look, Bill,

(48:18):
you're only teaching two classes on right, can you can
you feel in? But the you know, conservative movement has
basically strip mind all public you know, institutions. Yeah, and
they want to privatize everything so they can just bleed
the cork strive. You know, we go over this all
the time. Man, baby, can we eat shout out our
favorite teacher of all time? Yeah, oh yeah, Mine was
Mrs Bridgewater, my fourth grade teacher. I went to public

(48:40):
school all the way through to shout out to the
public school kids. Huh. Mine was probably Miss McDonald, my
seventh grade writing teacher. Um, my biggest crush crush was
Mrs Schultz sixth grade. I didn't ask that, but I
also love her too because she used to say the
most cutting ship to us, like not in a bad way,

(49:01):
like you know in your sixth grade you'll be like,
this shows it's not fair. And she would always be like,
let me tell you you guys, something life is not
and like she hammered that into the point by like
halfway through the year, like when people started to say,
we're like, your life isn't fair, keep it moving. So
that was a good lesson teacher that had a really
good impact on me. Though Mr Woolory, my history teacher,

(49:23):
probably the reason why I got into history or even
acknowledging history as a worthwhile topic to understand the present.
A lot of good teachers, Yeah, and that's why I like,
I think when you're when you're someone who actually has
experienced like teachers that have put their time and energy
into you and your development. It just makes it very
upsetting that I don't understand. I mean, I do understand,

(49:44):
because the conservatives are all about not giving anything anymore
than is already out there. But jeez um crow guys,
we gotta fucking the teachers. The teachers are the fucking
they are helping us what we do without them. You know,
the people who choose this career a path, they should
be more compensated for what they're doing, you know what
I mean, because we're all in here doing improv and ship,

(50:06):
you know what I mean, Like these teachers actually did
something to serve the community, serve the world. So yeah,
pay up, motherfucker's so yeah, supports your teachers. Man, if
you if you're in a position to pay a teacher
more or something fucking doing, and hook it up with
the holiday gifts you're a parent, hook it up. Give
them those big that good good okay, like think above

(50:28):
the Starbucks card, Okay, get those teachers some face shows,
Get massages coming in Okay, what else that would be
an excellent gift honestly, of like a pack of five
because we should be changing our pillow cases once a week,
and I feel like we probably don't do that. People
don't realize a lot of your skin ship can come
from Yes, I'm out here. How does how is that

(50:51):
in terms of temperature? I meantest that earl Oh, I
don't know. I think that's the whole point. So you
know we're what ninety point six degrees? So if you sleep, yes,
so if you sleep up against your head your hair,
you're putting like a ninety eight point six degree flat
iron up against your hair, right, yeah, so souvied hair
so that it helps with regular temperature, got it? Yeah? Okay,

(51:13):
because I like a cold pillow. There's I saw some ship.
There's like a new bed that has like ventilation built
into it, like a fucking mattress. But I was like,
that's what I need because I get so fucking hot
in bed. I have a weighted bank. Yeah yeah great. Yeah.

(51:35):
And if you want to crush your chest like Giles Corey,
like I said that, put that ship on and you
will be like crucible mode. Yeah. And if you smoke weed,
you definitely want it. Just be sure to set your
alarm because you can sleep for like two days under
a way. I couldn't believe how I was able to
get back to sleep, Like I wasn't able to sleep,
and I just went out to the couch and I'll
put the thing on if knocked me out. Yeah, they're

(51:57):
pretty because it fell on my head and had to concut.
Could use it as a weapon, Yeah yeah, yeah, really
cumbersome weapons. I would be interested to see how Jackie
Chan used that in a fight. Yeah, oh, I would
love that. All right, we're gonna take a quick break.
We'll be right back, and we're back, and we all

(52:31):
remember those lovable scamps, the Taie soccer team that was
stuck in a cave, got out an r P to
the diver passed away. Um, well, there is a I
believe Netflix series coming about that whole story, already in production,

(52:54):
with the director of Crazy Rich Asians already attached. That
is how quickly these deals coming. Hasn't even been a
I think June twenty three is when they first entered
the cave, and we are already have directors attached. Netflix
is already has a writer attached. I bet they already
have Happy Meal toys. Oh yeah, like my first scuba

(53:17):
tank or something, and yeah, they're and like so I
guess now they're just sort of in development already, like
deep development. They're still figuring out it's gonna be a
feature a mini series. Uh and they and you know,
I think they're really trying to make it a very
like an epic thing with like you know, I think
it might be multi lingual sort of thing. They have
a tie writer attached, so they want a little bit

(53:39):
of a cultural uh, a little bit of a reality
check on the script probably, which probably means Scarlett Johansson
will miss out on the role of coach not erect Cantawong.
But you know that's sad. Never mind, I'm out, Yeah,
my bad. Uh So, I was just I couldn't believe.
My whole question is who the funk package the rights
together that quickly? Who came up to them like you,

(54:01):
I'm trying to buy the right for your whole thing.
Someone's just waiting on the shore. Someone was waiting on June. Yeah,
and they're just like, yes, first first get out high.
I would love to we joke, but that's most likely
what happened. Yeah, you gotta jump on great stories, which
is absurd when you think of like how stressful this

(54:23):
is for everybody. These are kids who would probably know
nothing about the imaginations of the film industry, and now
they have actors following them around, like getting their methods down,
like following them at school. So how do you hold
your chopsticks? Okay, okay, you choked down a little bit, Okay, okay, Yeah,
I mean it's cool that they're doing. It's a series, right,

(54:44):
not a film. They don't know. It could be feature
length or it could just be a mini series. So
they're still figuring that out. That HBO Chernobyl SI series,
Little Terror Thick. Just so, whoever is a Russian speaker?
If you can tell me what that warning sig Iron
voices saying in the trailer, please tell me. Let me
know what that is, because that is the fucking freakiest

(55:05):
part of that whole thing is when that voice comes
out and it's like, it's interesting that movie seems to
posit that they all were speaking English with Russian acts.
I thought that too. I found that interesting. Yeah, you know, honestly,
like in the post Narco's world, just keep it, keep
it fucky, Yeah, fucking speak Russian, man, because I get
to pick up new words too. Like I'll be like ble,

(55:27):
I'm like yeah, alright, cool, I'm write that one down.
But I feel like I get my reading and when
I watched Narcos, you know, like I feel more fulfilled,
more enriched, and there's something a little bit more just
I mean, for lack of a better world word, realistic.
People are speaking that the acting is so much more authentic,
you know. So yeah, I mean, I hope it's Entai

(55:48):
and probably English. I don't want it to be, you
know whatever, Look Netflix, where I gotta do. It's a
very I mean, I believe it was a Newsweek article
about it that showed the picture of exactly what happened
is true? Really crazy? Yeah, it was like how amount? Yeah, yeah,
that like cross section of what the cave was really like,

(56:08):
Oh my god. It's truly a remarkable story. So I
of course Hollywood is going to exploit it, of course. Yeah. Yeah,
But well we'll see where it falls in the hierarchy
of like true story movies, like will it be that
Peterburg oil thing exploding? Will it be that Mark Wahlberg?
One Mark Wahlberg, Peterberg, I don't know why I want

(56:29):
with the director instead of Mark Wallberg. Let's see if
they add some love stories in here. Oh yeah, what's
like the best like the high water mark, because like
they did that Antonio Banderis did the miners that were
stuck undergraduate the Chilean miners, but like that, yeah, nobody
really did, so like I feel like that's one side

(56:52):
that you could go like and then the best possible
version is like I guess you can't call the social
network one. But that was like a true story turned
around in like three years. That was pretty good. Um yeah,
I don't know. I mean, look, just keep it real.
Let me know what happened to take out the filler?
You know, yeah, don't drag it along and just keep
Scarlett Johanson out of it, right, and we gotta hit

(57:16):
oh Nicolas Cage nine eleven movie? Oh fuck? Is that
the one? What's that movie that ends that? It ends
up being nine eleven? Oh yeah, remember what if they
do it like that? And it was like it's about
the tie cave like what, uh, Scarlett Johanson the whole time.

(57:38):
It's a rom come the whole time. And then yeah,
and then real quick, I wanted to tell everybody to
go read this New York magazine cover story. Uh, and
you can find it online it's about this guy. His
name is Larry Ray. And this is just like one
of those stories that like it starts weird and then
just gets weirder and weird. So it starts out with

(58:01):
this guy, Larry Ray, getting released from prison and within
days moving into the campus housing that his daughter and
seven other women and like one guy living on Sarah
Lawrence's campus, and so like really weird that a dad
would move in with his daughter while she's in college,

(58:22):
like on the cot. Let's play this out, you guys
don't have a house meeting. What's up? My dada just
got out of prison. Is our new roommates? Yes, exactly,
we live on campus him for uh. She but she
had always talked about like how their dad was this
like huge hero who like always who got like a

(58:44):
raw deal because their mom, uh like convinced people that
he was like abusive, but like he wasn't and he
was trying to actually save them from their mom, who's
so like the girl was like, fully, like, my dad
is a hero. He walks on water, so he moves in,
he begins instituting all these like rituals, like he has

(59:05):
like a meeting every night where like everybody like talks
really seriously and like openly, and he's like, you just
gotta be honest. We've all had those roomains, right. But
he's like starts talking about people's sexuality, having these like
really intense one on ones. Uh rents an apartment over
the summer and gets a bunch of the kids to
spend the summer with him in this apartment where he's

(59:27):
like like controls what they eat, controls like it's basically
turns into like this weird like sex cult where it's
like a fifty year old guy who's like controlling all
these college kids. Um, and I don't know, man, it's
just so weird. So then it like goes into like
what his life has been up to that point, and
he just does this with everybody that he meets. He

(59:50):
can just like get to manipulate everybody. It's like crazy,
It's like some ship you've only seen in like a
fictional movie. One quote that I just wanted to pull
from you. Apparently super producer around Hosny is saying that
it reminds her of Dirty Jon because that's also like
an a sociopath who's very manipulative. But this dude. The
court ordered a psychological evaluation of the family members, like

(01:00:12):
during the time when there was all this you know,
back and forth between he and his ex wife, right,
and the psychological evaluation came back and said that Larry
is literally impossible to evaluate because he is able to
manipulate and control any situation in which he finds himself,
including a psychological interview with a forensic examiner, no matter

(01:00:36):
how experienced that examiner. Maybe Mr Ray is very good
at what he does. He can be utterly charming and
one can be disarmed by his childlike simplicity and smile.
But Mr Ray is no child. He is a calculating,
manipulative and hostile man. But like so they sat down
with him for an evaluation, they were like, I can't

(01:00:57):
like he just all ready just like got into their
fucking head. I would love to see what like that
looks like, because in my mind with my arrogant asked him, like,
you get me in the room with him, Yeah, I
would love to see that. And then suddenly like next thing,
I'm like, they're naked, Yeah, can we get a tattoo
artist in here? And Larry's face on my chest right there? Exactly,

(01:01:19):
There's like a part where one of the like housemates
talks about how like she doesn't feel great about this
dude who's like a criminal and like she has like
gets weird vibes from him. And then before she leaves
to go abroad, she writes a letter to like her parents,
everybody in the house, all her teachers, like anybody being like,

(01:01:41):
I disavow everything I said before. The only reason I
said that is his ex wife told me too. He
is a genius and he like he just fucking gets people.
Another thing he does is he gets everybody to pay
him hundreds of thousands of dollars, like they like beg
their parents for all this money by saying that they
did like hundreds of thousands of dollars of damage to

(01:02:03):
his belongings. Like they'll like scrape a pan or something
while doing dishes for him, and he'll be like, look
what you did, is that my calfllon panther that's dollars,
and like so he that's how he makes his money,
and then it like ties in so uh. Rudolph Giuliani's

(01:02:23):
former driver who became the NYPD commission Bernie Carrick, like
crosses him at one point, like he's about to go
to jail for this pump and dump scheme that he's
involved with Larry ray Is and he like asked Bernie
Carrick to like write a letter on his behalf and
he doesn't. And Bernie Carrick is not a household name
anymore because this dude just tore his career the fuck down.

(01:02:47):
I mean, he found out ship that had happened in
his past or like affairs he had had, just exposed
them to everyone in the media and then also got
character to pay him a hundred thousand dollars Nokia exactly
it is. It is one of the most terrifying, like
works of nonfiction I've ever read, So shout out to

(01:03:07):
New York Magazine, but everybody should read it for themselves.
It's shout out to any arrogant person like me who
thought give me the box right fucking manipulate me, because
I'm really curious, like for someone to even for a
professional like psychological examiner to say this person isn't impossible
to evaluate because they will fucking control everything. Yeah, I

(01:03:29):
want to know how that happened? What how? It's so
interesting And you know, speaking of those teachers, they need
their money. Can we teach in school how to spot
a sociopath, just how to spot a narcissist, like what
to do because they're everywhere. Yeah, and he's active, Like
he's still some of these young women that he like

(01:03:52):
brought into his apartment still like won't talk to their
parents and like live with him, like having relationship ships
with them. Yeah, one of them he's in a relationship
with and then another one. Just to get money from everybody,
just to control everyone, to have people who do his will.
And he claims he's like helping them. Yeah, right. That

(01:04:13):
one of the people who lived in the house is
like a dude who was struggling with his sexuality. He
made him and one of the other girls like have
sex in front of him to like while he videotaped
it to prove that he wasn't gay. He's like, you're
not gay, bro, like have sex in front of me on. Yeah,
it's it is wild. Anyways, that's our next great podcast, Yeah, yeah,

(01:04:36):
called reading articles. That's true. All right, well, Jackie, it
has been a pleasure having you and your lovely dog
in our studio today. Where can people find you? Well,
if you want to see chooges Instagram, My dogs at Hello,
I'm the Chuoge spent all my lap, yes a little

(01:04:57):
while y'all can check out Natch Butte Wherever podcast New
Epps every Friday. Um if you like comedy and skincare
and self care, and I'm at Natchribute on Instagram and
Jackie Michelle Johnson on Instagram. So I post a lot
of selfies, but you know why because that's what people
hit like on I'm giving people what they want, you know,

(01:05:18):
and you get your dopamine response. That's right, and I
need it. I remember, y'all. Cream up neck down, that's right.
Cream up neck down is a T shirt. And is
there a tweet you've been enjoying? Oh yes, I just
saw one this morning that I thought was appropriate. And
I love when a tweet goes super viral from somebody

(01:05:40):
who isn't a comedian, isn't in the business. This is
a girl in Texas. Her her name is at Kurkoe Baines,
and her tweet is it's cute. If white people know
how to say Denarius Targarian, they can learn to pronounce
your name correctly. Burn that's right, myles. Work will find you.

(01:06:00):
Oh you can find me and follow me Twitter, Instagram
out Miles of Gray, check me out there. A tweet
that I like is about So there's a photo right
of Hillary Clinton. Apparently she was at thirty Rock ran
into our man Pete Davidson. Uh. And someone just put
like with the photo of and she goes, this is

(01:06:22):
from and V Clark and Victory Clark. Uh. Oh god
are they dating now? Who knows? He got the Yeah,
he's he's also very powerful man. He's he's able to
manipulate people to do whatever. And this photo is just like,

(01:06:43):
I think he's just stoned out his face and he
ran into Hillary Clinton. They both have great coats. Yea.
I think it's like a giraffe print or something. Yeah,
it looks like some kind of like fleece printed like
camo thing, and she has some kind of cool it's
not um. A tweet I enjoyed from Chris Kelly. I'm

(01:07:08):
Chris Kelly on Twitter. Tweet a picture of the other
two just a yeah, I love the other two. Just
a a billboard for Big Little Eyes with the names
of the actresses Kidman, Witherspoon, Woodley Kravitz, Dern Streep. And
then they like lined it up so downward like across

(01:07:28):
tick style. It says new lies like spelled out in
the letters of their names. And he said, what must
it have felt like the moment they realized this was possible.
Uh and then turn ran in the room and then
smash Mouth the band yeah at smash Mouth At smash

(01:07:49):
Mouth tweeted, Yo, Bryce told you not to go to Philly, jackass.
The San Francisco Giant fans never bow their own players.
You were led by money only, so swimming the sea
of booze now hot. I'm just talking shipped to this
great baseball player who went and signed for a lot
of money and uh, mambo number six or said, did

(01:08:10):
you not fucking tell all stars to get paid? That
is so funny that they're talking ship out the smash
Mouth account to Harper, the lead singer smash Mound. I
get the impression is, and you guys aren't gonna like
this a total asshole. I like that smash mouths Twitter
is still on point, though. I love that they're still

(01:08:32):
out there tweeting we should fucking goad him into some
kind of social media war, right, I'm not Actually I
don't have enough time. You can find me on Twitter
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(01:09:14):
so for this rack, this is a track called control
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your get your boot bumping. All right, we're gonna write

(01:09:35):
out on that. We'll be back on Monday. We hope
you all have a great, safe weekend. Don't get manipulated
by anyone. Bye. The ain't time to the at time

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