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November 19, 2019 70 mins

In episode 519, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Lydia Popovich to discuss Goop's absurd holiday gift ideas, impeachment updates, Trump's abnormal medical visit, Joe Biden trying to figure out marijuana, Trump begging Louisiana not to embarrass him, the vaping lobbyists getting to Trump, hip hop and politics, and more!

FOOTNOTES:

  1. The Ridiculous but Awesome Gift Guide
  2. This is maybe the funniest thing he's ever said.
  3. Live updates: Trump says he will ‘strongly consider’ providing written testimony; McConnell ‘can’t imagine’ president being removed from office
  4. White House forced to deny Trump has serious health condition after ‘abnormal’ medical visit
  5. Joe Biden is still questioning if marijuana is a gateway drug, even though research doesn't support the idea
  6. Trump begged his followers in Louisiana: “You’ve got to give me a big win, okay?" 
  7. Steve Scalise: Trump doesn’t ‘look bad’ after Louisiana governor loss
  8. Trump Retreats From Flavor Ban for E-Cigarettes
  9. Pompeo ‘Feels Under Siege’ After Hitting Rough Patch With Trump
  10. MC/MASTER OF CEREMONIES (EMCEE)
  11. The 1977 NYC blackout and the hip-hop spark that ignited soon after
  12. The History of Rap in China, Part 1: Early Roots and Iron Mics (1993-2009)
  13. 'Tasteless, Vulgar and Obscene.' China Just Banned Hip-Hop Culture and Tattoos From Television
  14. Russia’s Youth Found Rap. The Kremlin Is Worried.
  15. Why Putin is learning to love rap
  16. Putin's war on rap unites Russia's hip hop artists
  17. WATCH: Orion Sun - "Stretch" (The Key Studio Sessions)

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season one, O nine,
Episode two of Joe Daily sighte Geist, a production of
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It's Tuesday, November nineteen, two thousand nineteen. My name is

(00:20):
Jack O'Brien, a k A. Jumping Jack O'Brien loves called
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They're good seeing the best the best right now. Well,
we are thrilling you joined in our third seat by

(01:24):
the hilarious and talented Lydia Papa Bitch. Welcome back, Lydia. Thanks,
it's going to be back. It looks like we're thrilled
Lydia back. Awesome. I was thinking about you guys too,
you know, just dreaming, just like when will they call God?
How you been pretty well? Actually pretty well? Had myself
a little bit of a summer, had a good time.

(01:46):
I went to Hawaii time in h a w didn't
tell jokes, did like a real like a real, for
real vacation. Oh do you normally be like I'll do
a little half a k half yeah, because then you
can write part of it off, you know what I mean?
But I was like no, but then you also end
up like spoiling your vacation. Yeah, sure you're not saying

(02:07):
you just refused to tell jokes the whole vacation to anybody, right,
I frowned. Yeah, people like aloha and I'm like, yeah,
hollow ha ha, very funny. Yeah, really walking around like
my tie is not gonna make me happy? Sir? All right,
I dare you another MARGARITEA Let's see if I turn

(02:29):
this sunshine out. Yeah. I saw your vacation photos and idea.
It was like you like in a like nice yacht
with a drink, frowning. Yeah, miserable. Yeah, you're in a
helicopter tour of the volcano, just crying. Yeah, everyboy's in
grass skirts. I'm just gonna like, oh God, you're getting
me out here. Yeah, it was great, it was fantastic. Well, Lydia,

(02:50):
we're going to get to know you a little bit
better in a moment. First, we're gonna tell our listeners
a few of the things we're talking about. We're gonna
talk about the the only holiday gift getting that you need,
uh A k Oprah's favorite things for Affected White People,
the New Goup Gift Guide. They even acknowledge ridiculous holiday gift.

(03:12):
Oh they say it's ridiculous. I think so, yeah, but
you know they it feels very on brand for group.
Some of these items. It's like, are you a one
per center who dabts? We're just gonna brush over the
impeachment stuff. Real because I'm talking about We're gonna talk

(03:32):
about what was a scary moment for all of us
over the weekend when our dear leader made an unexpected
trip to the hospital. We're just hoping that he was
going there to just grace children and you know, who
were suffering from debilitating illnesses with his presence and cure them.

(03:53):
But apparently that's not what was going on. It depends
how you believe. If it's a liberal media, maybe it
was a health scare. If it's him, he sure someone's blindness. Yes,
Joe Hide did judge or no, sorry, Joe Hiden proved
that did not earn that nickname over the weekend. We'll
talk about that with a take older than him, literally

(04:17):
older than him. I was impressed. Actually, we're gonna talk
about Trump going down and saving the Republican Party in Louisiana.
Uh wait, that did not happen. I thought I thought
that was gonna be a bigger news story, but it's
just well, there's almost just getting common, so many else
being taken. Uh Trump is you know, he came out

(04:43):
with that, what is I still think it's probably daily
Zi's favorite SoundBite of him. Uh, just one time about
the dangers of vaping innocent children, and they're coming home
and they're saying, Mom, I want a mom, I want
to one of vape. But so apparently he is going

(05:05):
he got a big vape got to him. So we're
gonna talk about that. We're gonna talk about Pompeo feeling
the heat from Trump, and then we have a big,
long conceptual piece on rap. Yeah, because that will be
wrapped by Miles and I. Yeah. No, it's just the
idea of rap is sort of a a ethos that

(05:29):
brings about change or more in society. It's like America's
the one export that is going to other countries and
causing problems culturally, or like it's subverting hoping to subvert
a lot of well not. Yeah, it's the first of
art form. Yeah, and we're seeing it all around the world.
But first Lydia, before we get to any of that ship,

(05:49):
we like task our guess, what is something from your
search history that's revealing about who you are? I looked
at my search history this morning. Uh, three things came
up there, all hilarious. Number one was two caskets, Like
is that a rapper could be literally two caskets to discount. No,

(06:13):
because I now I was trying to remember I saw
something funny and it was like going to try to
meme and it was like something something where would they be?
And then I was like, oh, I wonder if I
can find a funny picture of two caskets. And then
it was like it didn't find It was a failed joke.
You couldn't find two caskets. I found two caskets. Could.
I realized everything I was doing was an extremely poortaste.
Like I just was like, maybe this is funny for

(06:34):
stone Lydia right now, but like the Internet and your
future career, this might be something you delete made for drafts.
So yeah, I just I let that go. Uh. And
then it was lots of land for sale Tennessee because
I am looking my favorite I'm looking. I'm looking for
some land in eastern Tennessee. So yeah, I'm really for
that legit. It's talked to Billy Wayne Davis. Property is

(06:56):
very cheap. I'm looking in Louisburg, outs into Nashville. Okay,
I want some makers. Is that to be closer to
your dear Dolly Um? Yes, and no, you know it's
just it's a peaceful place. Years and years of trips
out there for the last ten years, and I've realized
that every time I'm there and I'm in the country,
I'm extremely happy and at one with myself. But you are,
I'm remembering correctly, you're a massive Dolly head, right, Absolutely,

(07:18):
are your trips out there Dolly related? Okay, So in
a way, Dolly is the gateway complete person hoping, the
gateway to the state exactly. And I've it's forced me
to spend time there because I've gone there to see her,
and then I've tacked on another time and I've just
just a master, great a great love. Do you think
it's the idea of Dolly that is putting you at
ease or it's a combination of Dolly and the land.

(07:38):
Do you think just objectively that land is speaking to you? Objectively?
It is beautiful and it's definitely speaking to me, But
I wouldn't know what it was unless it was for
Dolly Parton, So for sure, like it's intrinsically built into that.
I feel like we're going through a Dolly part tonaissance,
as somebody who's been you know, a day one, a

(07:59):
day one singing the praises, but the Johnny apple seed
of Dolly partoners. So how does that make you feel? Like?
I'm filled with joy because it's so wonderful to see
her get the reverence in her, to have the opportunity
to shine all of the serious lights on herself, of
all the different aspects of how wonderful she is. And
I feel like it's helping people open their eyes and

(08:19):
see beyond the stuff that I'm always talking about. And
it's interesting because I have so many people that know
me and know that I love her. So I've getting
so many messages, so many texts, and so many damns
like oh my god, like I kind of understand while
you're like, I didn't get it before, but now I
get it. So it's nice to you know, I mean,
I could give a ship if anybody knows or cares
how much I love her, because I love her and
I know what she thinks me. But it's it's nice

(08:41):
to say people see how great she has. Whatever in
the last eighteen months has been, it's because of her.
That's the power of Dolly Parton. This is a bit working.
She has so many projects coming out. It's not an accident.
She's a freaking genius. I'm thinking it must be one
of those moments though, for all those iron she had
in the fire are like or you know, the seeds
she's putting down there now starting to all bare fruits simultaneously,
like what she's on a NASCAR exactly because she knows.

(09:05):
She's like, I'm seventy two. I'm going to make this matter.
She's doing all this visual stuff, so it's like a
lot of work up front and then it's just pressed
tours and it rallies all in it. She's still on
her two year cycle like she It is so masterful.
It's I don't even know what to do, but I
feel like she needs to hire you. Oh my god.
She's building her own film and TV studios right now.
So I'm like plodding in my head. Right she needs

(09:27):
to hire me. I'll get coffee, I don't care. Whatever
you need, bitch. I'll organize those wigs. I am here
for you. I'll be walking around with wig tape and stuff,
gaffer's Tapelet's do this ship. I'm ready. I'm ready. I
have the knowledge, have the tenacity. What is something you
think is underrated? Staying at home? I love staying at home.

(09:48):
I love it so much. I don't know. I was
trying to remember what I said last I was here,
and I might have said the same thing. But even so,
I really want to stress to people, don't leave your
house for what. Why do you have to go The
people are all excited about, like the weed cafe. Can
go smoke weed at this place? You know what I
can do at my house. You can smoke weed at
my house. Yeah, I can go to the bathroom at
my house. I can order as many snacks as I
want at my house and not have to pay thirty

(10:08):
five dollars to rent a ball. This exactly. The idea
of renting a ball is straight bonkers to I can't
the second it was so Engineer Daniel went to that
cafe and I was like, just tell me how many
people are taking dumbass selfies in there? Not as many.
But when we looked at the menu, I was like,
this is this is antithetical to my time being. The

(10:28):
idea of everything rubbed me the wrong way. Yeah, to
bring your own weed, but everybody at the table has
to pay thirty bucks. We'll get the funk up on
out of here for what for? For white maybe literally
in this parking lot watch outside right now, right in
front of your face. Not gonna like my weed cafe bunkers.

(10:50):
I say it's stay in the house. It's underrated, staying
at home. Stay at home. What is something you think
is overrated? Leaving the house? Leaving the houses? Do it?
I promise you, um, leaving the house is true? But

(11:10):
I say overrated is a complicated coffee order? Like I
know everybody likes what they like, but like, if you're
out in public and you're ordering a coffee, keep it simple, stupid,
like don't maybe don't go crazy? What do you think?
What's what is the Is there like an ingredient like
three modifications and you while now it? Or is it?
I think I think three or four? Like I think
you can I specify a milk. I think in this

(11:31):
day and age, that's totally fine, very acceptable. I think
you should be able to specify a sweetness totally fine,
Like if you like your coffee sweet or not sweet.
If it's that situation, although honestly you're a grown up,
get some sugar packets, handle that ship in your own bit.
Why are you down for everyone? But like, hey, I
get it. Maybe you have a syrup, you know, I'm
a syrup lady, so like, you know whatever, discussing how many?

(11:56):
I mean, I just don't want to ever talk about
it never just scussion point note that nobody should ask
ever anytimeing um yeah, and I think that's kind of it.
And if you want it hot or cold, right, so
what's the superfluous ask? Like light ice? No ice? Room?
Like can I have room like leave room for more

(12:19):
milk or like I wanna I wanna grande and venta cup.
I wanna like complicated stuff like that, like specifications of
like too hot or too like like I want the
milk hot but like not foamy, but like but in between,
like place like this multiparate like multiple syrups right right right?

(12:39):
Are you okay with sprinkles? Sprinkles? Right, sprinkles like like
like cinnamon sprinkles or like sprinkles on your own actual
literal sprinkles. Literally, because people were straight up of using
all the free Coco powdern ship that here. They're like, yeah,
we're making mocus on here. Literally, I'm like, yo, just

(13:01):
give me water, I'm gonna mix it up with this
Coco powder. I got it, I got it. See I
wish I I only I just drink cold brew. If
I ever drink coffee and it comes out of a
Kirkland signature can so I keep it pretty. But he
actually when he goes to Starbucks, he demands that they
put it in Kirkland and they're like, we don't have,

(13:22):
like I said, in a fucking cold roof and just
hands them an empty one. Yeah. When I go, you know,
it's like, just let me get that nitro sweet cream.
Boom done. That's the one word. I'm cool. Yeah, that
seems that it's like a thing that's on the menu.
You're not in the bucket I brought right. What would
you say with fair trade milk? Would you say with
extra ice? Do you think that's too much extra ice?

(13:44):
I mean, I think that's too much, Like what's wrong
with you? Well, you're also you're doing yourself a disservice
by getting extra ice. The volume of liquid that's going
to fit in there, cheating. I like to get an
ice cream headache just drinking, you know what. I'm kind
of that with espresso though, I like really ice cooled
espresso with no sugar and no milk, and I will
just take it to the head. That is a kind

(14:06):
of a great rogen. Yeah, just like like other than
like inhaling it where it's the best way to really
get yourself jacked up. But so would you make an
exception like all all of these things on their own
as one thing would be okay, But people who come
in and are like three pumps dusting of nutmeg? Yeah,

(14:27):
fu put it right in the face. I want a
small an eventI yeah, because then if you would never
say small though, he would say yeah, tall and event.
But I still feel like that's you're trying to exhibit
some sort of power over the person taking your order.
Like at some point it becomes like, okay, did you
know how many brothers and sisters did you have? Like
what did your mom never pay attention? Like did you

(14:47):
always get it cut into squares when you really wanted
it in triangles? Like what are you working out right
now that you'd have to be so effing special? Do
you watch people at Starbucks? And then like, so, can
I actually get you involved in a quick survey trying
to find out was your what was your child? How
little were you touched as a child? Contact hours? Never
heard of him? Contact contact I got from my mom

(15:08):
a lot? Is this triggering holding this single key on
a chain or shoelace, is this is this it all
triggering old dirty Adidas lanyard. That was Mikey. I feel
like those people are also like they want to beat down,
like really bad with the Starbucks people, so they like
adopt the lingo like Starbucks people adopt that lingo because
it's shorthand for work. It's work efficiency. But like when

(15:32):
you do it, it's just yeah, I gotta believe that.
They're like alright, buddy, thanks, like it's that's what I mean,
Like it's meaning enough that they don't have to like
you can say that, but I bet you won't even know,
or like I've heard so many things to like telling
like what is it when they pulled the shot long
you know, there's like dopio something or like like the

(15:54):
fancy words or something, and he's like, I want to
al freggio freaking blabby blah, And I was like, and
we and the bristo were like, you want what sir?
We looked at each other like what is he talking about?
And then he was like, I want the long pool
and he's like it's Starbucks. It's a machine. It pulls
And I was like I love this guy so hard. Right, fam,

(16:15):
it's a machine. I can I'll press the button for
a long time. Long shot. Done, got it? Got it?
In what is a myth? What's something people think is
true you know to be false. Um, here's two not
such a myth as a misnomer. Legalization of marijuana and
do criminization of marijuana are not the same thing and
are not synonymous. Uh. And then the second thing is

(16:37):
is that people think that Dolly Parton's arms are covered
in tattoos and that's why she wears long sleeves all
the time. They are not. In truth, she does have
tattoos that are along her torso. She's got little flowers
and little butterflies which covers scars and other things that
she didn't really want to have. But she does have
tattoos just on her torso. She recently confirmed that in
Good Morning America like a week and a half. Did

(16:57):
she show the tats or she did not? Although there
was a pick here on Instagram this year where she
was wearing a mess shirt and she was on a
nail salon in the valley and you can see him
through the shirt in the valley out here. Yeah, what
is she doing in here, She's been going back and
for she's putting all this stuff on Netflix. She's different things.
This is around Grammy's time to part in the valley.
Who are you telling in my kingdom and my queendom?

(17:17):
I guess now, yeah, I lost my ship. That's like
the first time I like really lost my ship exactly.
I was like, I will put these bitches faces into
like I'm gonna call that dude from Catfish that can
google faces and find out where these bitches work and
just make appointments anytime. I know she's intw like, what
do you want to? Just do my nails over and
over all day? Just keep doing the sets over. I

(17:40):
can clean up at night if you want Renee these
like redo these polishes like gotch got you? I'm here
all right? Well, speaking of queens, guys, it's time to
talk about my queen. Geth Paltrow bless up. That would
be a sick T shirt like the like the candela
as they have for like saints, but you have one
Gwyneth Pouch. Oh my god, Actually not that coolest, cause

(18:03):
somebody who wear them, Like my coolest cousin was in
a band called kill Gwyneth Paltrow. Yeah, yeah, shout out
to everybody on that band. Alright. So Gwyneth's website Goop
put out the Ridiculous but Awesome Gift Guide. Uh, and
it's it's something. There's prefab homes in there. But I

(18:28):
want to read one of them to you. One. Uh,
the Journey to Nature's Edge Expedition. It's an expedition. It's
in the Polar Bear on it Polar Bear a journey
to It's a expedition. I want to read the description
Momentum adventure from one point three million dollars for twelve

(18:52):
months of trips, so starting it one point three so
it's basically a hundred thousand dollars per trip per Sure
it seems like a great price. It's like they thought
you were going to say, sure, that seems like a
great price, but they lure you in with the extras

(19:12):
and it's not just one million dollars. What's wild to
me says twelve endangered species focused trips to be spread
out or taken all at once, So you're gonna massively
expand your carbon footprint to like get to one of
these places and be like, yeah, man, it's fun. Up
this polar bear probably gonna die. All right, let's get
out on this jet. Like when the book is that?

(19:34):
And are you going to travel for twelve continuous months
or is it like one week in a month that
you're slowly like being part of the problem. This is like,
this is literally the kind of travel website the fucking
the Roys from Succession look at because you know there's
like levels to travel and ship and I'm like, i
would never have heard of anything like this. But when
you look at this website, free Picture does to miles

(19:55):
point have like a big gas guzzling, like non energy
efficient vehicle. It's just like big four wheeler. What's that
a helicopter with all the gas sucking up ancient cacti
with your big gas tire. Here's pristine nature. Wouldn't you
want to fuck it up? Awesome four wheels? Well, when

(20:16):
they talk about it, Momentum Adventure specializes exclusively and bespoke
luxury adventure travel. We only run a limited number of
experiences a year, guarantee a personal level of service from
beginning to end. I'm like, I've never even read a bit.
We can only find a few humans that are willing
to participate in the manhunts who have completely compromised their
dignity in the name of profit. We got caught last year.
We got caught for letting our people kill a polar

(20:37):
bear just for ships. Now, I don't want it to
seem like all of these gifts are okay and reasonably expensive.
They have a really cheap one for dollars a dehydrated
caviar bar uh we for it looks like a candy bar,
but black brick of coke or something, but it's actually caviare.
And then just a line below that, they're like, you're

(21:00):
not really gonna want that. They have special reserve caluga,
who's a hybrid petro Russian sixteen thousand for one of caviar,
Get a brick of cavear? Right, wow, just fucking moving
bricks like a tastin this So wait, this isn't a joke.

(21:22):
This is she's acknowledging that it's ridiculous. But it's anesome
meaning like overprices, right, because then you go to like
the one for men and it's like check out this
bespoke muddler or four thousand dollar Rolex. I mean it's
still I feel very much if you are in this
mindset of like, I have so much disposable income, Like, sure,

(21:42):
what's a what's a hundred dollar water bottle? That's also
a foam roller from my bespoke muscle classes. On the
real though, if a bit bought you a muddler, what
would you say? Myles? I would be like, fuck you man,
you think I'm that corny? A medal, A muddler. I
can't even say, I like it keeps on coming up meddler,
because I'm just like, I know this is from a
metal So I guess you have to really, I guess
if my whole thing was mixology or something, I get it,

(22:06):
but it isn't. So then I would be like, do
you think I am right? I do not. There's some
guy out in the door right now. I was like,
what's up? It sounds great? I actually haven't in a way.
If that's your ship, go ahead, you know what I mean?
As a person, you know, there's also like a joint
rolling machine in there. I just don't look. I don't
respect you. I don't don't do that. They're already taking
our tops. Don't keep somebody keep that homey employed in

(22:29):
your circle, who does all the role unless you have O.
C D and you want them to all be perfectly round,
in which case, like, in which case you know, I'm
a perfectionist and it took me years of rolling, so
then master it and then you like then then that
becomes the process you fall in love with. That's how
you have the feeling of being alive that nourishes your soul.
New booty smokers going to Lowell's trying to roll cigarettes

(22:50):
by themselves and success and like, I've tried, and do
you ever do that? You got so frustrated you start
tearing it up midway like that before it's like almost perfect,
and it starts ripping, like you sort of don't do it,
and then it's like half have you ever tried to

(23:10):
like been through that? And then try to glue it
back together like pat typically, I just gonna sucking fuck
it and I just put it back in the grinder
and I'm like, here we go, the whole thing, including
the paper. I don't care. Yeah, I think it's really
terrible when you roll it too tight because it looks
good and you're like, oh, this is it, and then
you're like at the back, okay, cutting the back off,

(23:32):
thinking like just trying and roll it in your fingers. Listen,
it doesn't work. Super Squishy from that episode where Barton
Millhouse trying and drink the Super Squishy and he's like
sucking on its cement glasses fall off. One thing that
made me realize like how much less cool I was
than my dad is one of his friends told me

(23:54):
that when he was a teenager, he was known for
being able to drive while rolling a joint with the
other hand, like an amazing joint. Yeah, it's super dadlowd
like every seventies dad. Like my dad said that too,
until I actually watched him do it and was like,
oh ship, They're like Edward scissor Hands would have done

(24:15):
a better job. But it's so true, Like every family
has like that one guy where like that was the dude. Man,
that was the dude that had the most sauce in
your family. And it was like and now you're like,
who the sauce has dried up? Yeah, stuck to the
bottom of the pan. It's been on too long. And
if you've you've ruined the pot. That's right, get that water.

(24:38):
All right? Wait, they have a yoi Kusama pumpkin you
could buy on here, like a fucking original artwork. I
just don't understand. I don't understand how anything that much disposable.
I think it's just it's like, you know, like when
people look at the rab report and ship being like,
this is how the wealthy do it. Meanwhile, I will
and this is why I will continue to defend the
wealthy one day. I want to. This is why we

(25:01):
need Michael Bloomberg. Guess otherwise where where who's going to
buy these things? Yeah? And I mean, look now that
he gave that really tepid apology for stopping first, I
guess I was forgiven. Right, all right, we're gonna take
a quick break. We'll be right back, and we're back

(25:28):
and miles impeachment. Uh. There's some rumors going around that
Trump might might getting beast might speak. I don't know, man. Well, yeah,
he was saying, you know, think about it very deeply,
and then maybe I'll do something written a lie with
words because I don't know how to talk them. I
will be caught in all my contradictions. I mean, obviously

(25:49):
I think that's just total nonsense. He won't do it.
I think it's just good because that adds another log
to the fire. So we cannot look directly into the
impeachment flames. Um. But because right now out today Tuesday,
we will have heard the testimony of Lieutenant Colonel Alexander Vinman,
who is like the NSC's Ukraine expert, like the dude

(26:10):
who is like everything the US government is doing that
relates to Ukraine. I know about because that is my
fucking gig. So he will probably have a lot to say. Um.
And then Williams is an aid to Vice President Pence
who also listened to the call and said it was unusual. Yeah,
but I'm told that she's a total hack who should
go back to her. Maria Ivanovitch got a standing ovation

(26:33):
at a jazz club over the weekend. I know that
sounds like an absurd Also like shout out to her,
I like, she's at a jazz club. Yeah, she's like
this smoking room. And listen to something up a backward
real quick. I can't deal with this. I need to
listen to giant steps. Um. And then Wednesday, so I think,
you know, and then Kurt Vulker and Tim Morrison will

(26:54):
also be speaking. But I think Vinman is going to
be a really big person to watch. And then Sandland
Gordon Salon on when day, because he's a dude who's
been like, whoops, see Daisy lying like crazy type ship
all the time. I mean, he's had to correct himself
a couple of times. Yes, and then with Bill Taylor saying,
my staffers heard this motherfucker on the phone with Trump
talking about these investigations. He's gonna have to answer that

(27:16):
or will he? I mean, so Tim Morrison is like
the Defense is key witness, right, Like that's the dude
who uh I think said that he didn't think the
call was inappropriate, and like that's the best the Republicans
have to they have a dude's opinion opinion, and it's

(27:38):
and it's not like I thought it was totally innocent.
It was at the time like it didn't really free
me out. Yeah, it seemed whatever that right, Oh hell no,
I would never do that. That's sucked up. But then
he did confirm like other things though, so aside from
his opinion, it lines up with everything else. He just
it's just they're really reaching, they really need a win,

(28:00):
and I feel like, yeah, and then we have Laura
Cooper David Hale, it's another deputy Defense secretary. And then
Fiona Hill will be Thursday. It's gonna be a busy week, guys.
Uh so we will be double publishing again this week.
That sounds weird too, Yeah it does. Yeah, it was

(28:21):
more of a basketball phrase that got weird. Yeah. Double
pump three sixty win Man, double pump three sixty will
men will That's what that's actually my order at Starbucks.
I'm like a double pump three and then all you
do is you take the drink and then you do
that into the garbage. God damn dominique. Yeah, they're like,
we could have given you an empty cup. All this

(28:42):
frapacino everywhere. What is that drink? But let's let's talk
about the other concern regarding the president. His health. Apparently
made an unexpected trip to the hospital on Saturday to
uh yeah, visit someone who wants through a surgeon. He
says he was, like, I visited someone from Iraq who's

(29:04):
going to a surgery, and also phase one of my
annual physical Like, first of all, phase one phase this
screams something was wrong with his dick and he was
too embarrassed. That's the only reason why men go to
the freaking hospital as a surprise. And then are weird
about it and try to make it sound like it's normal, Like, yeah,

(29:24):
you normally go for the first part of your physical.
What happened to your dick over the weekend? Sir wasn't working.
He's like, he's a surgeon. I'm not gonna have a
look at my balls and tell me if these are infected.
Doesn't doesn't the President like have doctors who come to
the White House and just like give him his physical
While he's like, no, they do it at Walter Read
they do, Yeah, because they wanted to be official or whatever.
So the thing that's interesting is like it was completely

(29:47):
if it was his physical, it's completely out of like
it was not falling protocol. He just had his other
his annual nine months ago. I'm telling you, I mean
I would like also to to like he would ignore something. Really.
Terri was like, I get this weird pain in my
right and my chest feels tight and it's black, but
hold on, hold on my dick though, it's well, what
about the other thing you're saying, I don't care about that.

(30:10):
What's wrong with it? Doesn't normally shrink like this. It's
stuck inside me. Normally, when I'm excited it comes out
a little just a little bit. I have not seen
the tip, not even the tips he has gone for.
You know, they were saying, if you went um to
the hospital for two hours, that's got to say something.
Because his last physical was three hours, so a lot.

(30:31):
You know, this has caused all kinds of speculation. If
you listen to the White House, they're like, oh my god,
he's so healthy. He actually shamed the doctor for not
being healthy enough, and he was like, actually, I need
to go because if this is how you treat yourself,
I can't trust your medical opinion to make rib is
available somewhere. The doctor actually called him in because he
wanted to learn things from his exact physical specimen. It

(30:53):
was an emergency consultation with a doctor, your secret man's
heart um and then you know, one democratic political strategist. Again.
Everyone started speculating. But he's like, here's what I think.
He's going to resign and use a health reason to
do it so it feels like an out that doesn't
have to harm his ego. And then he can also
claim betrayal from within his own administration through this impeachment thing.

(31:16):
And that's what it's like. Look, I can't do it.
They're trying to bring me down. Also, my dick, My
dick is so sad it making me considered looking weak.
I don't think so. I think he'd rather honestly be
like no till the freaking wheels. Like. I think people
assume that he is like other people and that like
sound flicked wears him down and being this at the

(31:39):
center of like this, uh and this is like hard
on him. But I think he goes towards like he
craves that ship. He craves being like up at three
in the morning just writing me and emails about an
intern for Pence like I'm gonna burn that she's gonna
go through of things exactly. Uh, all right, Joe Biden

(32:05):
or next press probably uh oh my god. Uh. He
was at an event in Las Vegas, uh where by
the way, weed is legal, and he decided to let
everyone know, you know, how how he felt about Marijuania
with it. He is, Yeah, he's up, think about it,
think about kids, think about a kid. This is what

(32:27):
he says, because they're asking about him. You know a
lot of other candidates like I will legalize that ship
of day one, Like let's just fucking let's just end
that there. He is saying the truth of the matter
is there's not nearly been enough evidence that has been
acquired as to whether or not weed and I just
editorialized there is a gateway drug. He goes on to say, quote,
it's a debate, and I want a lot more before

(32:49):
I legalize it nationally. I want to make sure we
know a lot more about the science behind it. I mean,
I think that's the world's greatest play at just getting
free weed. He's like, I don't know, gotta dosearch. He
just sends some of this free weed my way. I
can sit down and get to the bottom of that,
and like, do I want heroin or do I want nacho?
And what's the difference between shatter butter, sauce sugar. I

(33:13):
don't know. Just tell me about it. I don't know.
I just need to do some research. Send it over.
But he does say he's he's open to decriminalization, and
then also goes on to just say, like the states, look,
if they want to figure out what they want to do,
then do it. But at a federal level, he sounds
high he's not making any sense. Yeah, Well, I mean, look,

(33:34):
there's plenty of research that says they cannot find a
connection as if weed is like the gateway to suddenly
listen to jazz music and becoming a communist, which I'm
surprised he didn't say, yeah, pretty much. That's yeah. He's
like the next thing, you know, your daughters in Harlem,
the pamphlet that's been in his pocket since. Right, He's like,
the Latinos are smoking the devil weed, the scariest invader

(33:59):
from the Southern Order. Yeah, Mary Jane, the kids call it.
But also by polyester, these hemp ropes are pretty strong.
But we're working on polyester too. But I mean the
main thing is decriminalization, right, Like that's what needs to happen.
Is there anybody who's like, decriminalized but don't legalize it?
Is that? Like that's true, That's what I mean, that's

(34:20):
what Biden saying. That's what Biden said. Think you shouldn't
go to jail for possession that shouldn't be a crime,
then it should be legal. It's like, what are you
talking about all day? Like do you know what you're
talking about? Well, yeah, hey, we're gonna make you a
loopy and spooky. Well that's also like the decriminalization is like,
is it like retroactive and that's what you really need?
That's the dangerous that's why people are against decriminally, are

(34:41):
you okay with freeing all those people you put in
jail through exactly? And then he it's funny because that's
an opportunity for him to be like, yeah, I love
the war on drugs, but like, let me you have
a moment here to be like, Yo, that was so
fucked up. We shouldn't have put generations of men away
and women like somebody who needs to come extra correct
about like you know, like Berg and be like read

(35:03):
from a fucking sheet of pair and be like, I
realize for black and Latino communities, stopping frisk was bad,
and you know what I'm I'm I'm I'm sorry. I
don't know it was you know, he even he took out,
he took a moment to try and reverse a negative.
But you know, Biden, he's still here. Oh man, he's

(35:26):
still looking good in the polls though. Yeah, he's still
up there. Trump, Yeah, he's the president. Apparently he is.
I just actually want to say the whole thing when
we were talking about why he may or may not
quit like he does have a pattern right where he
knows when it's the jig is up. He doesn't like
to take else like that really doesn't and so he
will find ways to be like, well that's really not

(35:48):
what that was, or like I actually had to I
actually had to rage quit because of this. And Louisiana
was kind of looking at this thing that he's been
doing the last couple of governors elections. So in um
uh was a Kentucky with Matt Bevan running for governor.
Trump showed up and was like, they're gonna say it
was it was the worst last ever. And then sure,

(36:10):
sure enough, motherfucker lost. And then he said, well, the
whole thing was he actually he was down. I got him.
I got him like twenty points that's what happened. But
it's like, no, the race was just a little bit
more competitive. I don't know if you could say you
did that. L is still you know um. And then
last week Louisiana, he was stumping for Eddie Rasponi, who

(36:33):
was like, I think twenty two points down or something,
and then Trump came through and did the same thing
where he was begging the people don't embarrassing me, and
this is what he said. We elected everybody. The governor
got brought up in a few short days. Nineteen points.
I went, we made a speech, the whole ticket was there,

(36:55):
everybody one big. Governor is a really good guy. But
nineteen points is a big thing. And he lost by
just a few thousand votes. And the headlines the next
day Trump took a loss. I lift him up a lot.
So Trump, you gotta give me a big win please. Okay, okay, okay,
spanked me with the Forbes magazine. I mean, is it

(37:19):
true that the dude was losing and then Trump focused
his energies. Well, it's not. You can't it's the math
is different. You can't say, like because he was this
far behind in a poll that him being there gave
him a twenty two points. It just doesn't work like that.
But I think that's sure. It was a competitive race.
But at the end of the day, you could you
can hang your hat on or you hang your to
pay or a wig or whatever on some ship like

(37:41):
I went there in motherfucker one being points down. That's
how strong the brand is. Yeah. And the thing that
everybody keeps saying about Kentucky and everybody by everybody I
mean Donald Trump Jr. And Donald Trump is that well
everybody on the ticket one, And it's like, yeah, no,
that is the baseline. Is a republic cans win in
the South, that's all Republicans win. And the one dude

(38:05):
that you were stumping for did not win, right, same
in Louisiana. So I don't know, I don't know that
it necessarily means anything other than that, like these dudes
are incredibly unpopular politicians or slash popular politicians. Well, and
also when you look at it, those losses all came
because the suburbs have abandoned, so it might be a

(38:25):
part of a bigger trend. It's so yeah, exactly, and
I think that's really what it. Those people came out
for him in twenty sixteen, but now through the mid
terms and these other lections were saying like maybe not,
but still everybody needs to get the funk out and vote. Um.
The thing that Steve Scalise went on Fox to basically
try and nurse, you know, tend to the president's ego
wounds and just said what he said was he'd made

(38:48):
was he'd be made to look bad whether he came
in the state or not. Basically and Eddie Rasponi made
up a twenty two point disadvantage over the last month
because of President Trump's involvement. Clearly, president involvement made a
big difference at helping close that massive gap, just not
enough to get uh you know majority of yea, yeah,
that's cool. You know, we did a good job. Yeah,

(39:11):
we mean almost almost. Um, but it's at least appeared
at a rally in it was at that rally with Trump,
by the way, oh great, yeah, so he saw it
firsthand how little energy was in that room except for
the beginnings. I mean, shout out to those political objects,
those fans, Like the first ten minutes he got, he's

(39:31):
got y'all hooting and hard. And then when you realize, like, oh,
this man is just gonna talk at us for another
ninety minutes. Yeah, and then people go but she gets
less and less, and then he has to get him back.
He's like, but what about the media back there? I
can't believe it. Also, what's wrong with my dick? Anybody anyway?
Doctor here? Um, So when you talk about the suburbs, though,

(39:52):
you know, the big thing is that he's losing suburban women,
and this vape thing was possibly a way to do
well with concern mothers who live in the suburbs, because
there was a lot of concern about jewels and vase
and these little kids. So because little kids are coming
home and they're saying, mom, you know and if I mean,

(40:12):
let's just let that echo an attorney one more time,
what do you say? Innocent children? Innocent and they're coming
home and they're saying, Mom, I want a vape, and
that's what. And back then he had that energy to say,
and you know what, maybe we need to get rid
of some of these flavored vapes until people got to him. First.
They were his own supporters who were like, President Trump,

(40:33):
we supports you, but we also vape motherfucker. So don't
get me fucked up and dog that Blueberry Hayes's my ship.
I need that Yankee blue dream or whatever that is. Right.
Uh So they say a few lobbyists got to him.
It says allies working for the vaping industry have told
Mr Trump that battleground state polling of his own voters

(40:53):
showed the issue of banning vapes was going to cost
him support. One such poll was commissioned by John McLaughlin
of Trump Campaigns. Posters for the Vapor Technology Association, and
they looked at the poll coming from Big Vape. Yes, yep, okay,
sponsored by Big Vape, and they are telling him, hey man,
you come out anti vape, you're gonna lose like I

(41:16):
don't know half of America, Like I don't know, like everything.
It says that if you get rid of vapes, it's
like someone might pull your hair off and you'll go
to jail. Right, Yeah, there could be like you know,
like ghosts might haunt you forever. I don't know. I
don't know if you want to know. And yeah, quick
sharks might like end up in your toilet if you
do this. But yeah, I think again he was shown

(41:39):
them from that that industry. This is gonna cost you.
But it's funny. I'm sure there's a lot of astro
turfing going on. But their world. There was a thing
where they were interviewing piste off vape users who are like,
get your don't come from yeah, oh my god, So
hey man, make vape America vape again. Damn aping community

(42:01):
coming strong. Who knew they had so much power? Who
the industry? I'm curious to know how much ground swell.
I'm sure people like if you're that's your ship because
you see people walk around those gigantic batteries and I'm like, Oh,
that's that's you. That's then say like the whole like
vape modification. People are like really into building those things.
It's like a lightsaber. Yeah yeah, and then like conventions
and stuff like all the comical like how vape? Can

(42:23):
you vape? Right? I want? Can I get? I think
I can get a big cloud going. I see those
cloud contests. Have you watched those videos? Yeah, it's frightening.
It looks like like like a v M A performance,
Like the amount of fogs and that's what are these
kids vaping? And how tiny are their lungs? I know,
well they're probably doing excess. They're cheating. But one thing

(42:45):
I just want to talk about. Prayers out to Pompeo. Yeah, Micrompeo,
prayers up. Just it seems like he is having a
tough time. He's always been like he got to his
position of power, uh, Secretary of State by just basically
agreeing with whatever Trump said and like the most simple, straightforward,

(43:08):
sick of fan possible, whatever you say, sir, And now
that that is sort of backfiring on him or or
now that there is sort of some adversity in their
relationship because all these people are coming out and testifying
from the State for Pompeo, like they are under Pompeo,
and Trump is not happy about that. He was saying

(43:29):
something a prey to Lunch like he's like, you gotta
reign your people in. Then, yeah, what the fund is this?
Yeah getting burned? And what the funk is it? Why?
Why is he getting burned? Does Pompeo does not give
a shit about him? No, he just keeps saying this
is what they said. This quote it says Pompeo feels
like he's getting a bunch of blame from the President
in the White House for having hired all these people

(43:51):
who are turning against Trump. Uh. And then Trump feels
that quote it's the State Department that is going to
bring him down, So it's all Pompeo's fault, and Pompeo
feels like he is just basically under fire because of this.
And it's true. I mean like it's been a NonStop
parade of State Department officials talking that part to to
Congress and just saying like, yeah, this is what it is.

(44:11):
I'm sorry, do you need you have any other questions.
I'm the most credible person you've ever had testified. I'm
going to get a standing oh at a motherfucking jazz
club later on my head out. Yeah oh man. Well,
hopefully those two kids iron things out. This is the
thing that's slowly everybody's like you said last time, they're

(44:32):
lifting their shirts showing they got that pistol on them. Andre, like,
don't funk around, Brouz, don't throw me into this motherfucking
bus too, because I got some ship I can say too. Yeah. So,
I mean again, it's a non so in this case
that's Pompeo lifting his shirt. Well, I'm just saying, like
we're starting to see everyone turn on each other. Some
people have been like absolutely not like with like we said,

(44:54):
with more by Julie, I know too much. Yeah, Julie,
I was like, I have an insurance policy. And then
his lawyer it was like he's kidding about that. Okay,
thank you, listen to him. He's geriatric. But in this case,
Pompeo is just letting it be known. You know. Yeah,
I think he's I think what he's doing first is like,

(45:14):
come on, uncle, you'se you on me and then if
it keeps it up, then he'll probably like, man, funk
that dude, right, and the one actually know, there's probably
one step between be easy on me and funk that dude.
But was we're seeing that evolution. I think that stop.
Is this motherfucker? Right? You know? Yeah? Left partners. That's

(45:35):
the whole reason he started talking, because he was like,
I don't know him at all, and he's like, is
this motherfucker? Don't funk? Okay, you say that? Yea, get
pt on the phone, right, all right, We're gonna take
a quick break and we'll be right back. And we're back,

(46:02):
and uh now it's time to talk about hip hop
rap the realist, the realist seeing djaying rap, because those
are those are two different conversations. One of them has
four elements and one of them does it what is
this one? O? Uh? Never mind? What about this group thing? Well, no,

(46:32):
we're talking about it because I've I've seen a few
document documentaries over the last couple of weeks, one or
some of the Atlantic about hip hop in China, and
another was from Vice, which you know, in this very
narrow instance, was talking about the rap like the whole
rap scene in Russia and how both of these are
becoming like like the state is now paying attention because
like these people got these kids turn't the funk up

(46:54):
on some like fuck the establishment ship and we need
to actually start figuring this ship out ak repressing it. Yeah,
and I mean there's a like Nietzsche talks about like
they're being sort of master moralities and slave moralities, and
like they're certain uh you know, structures of belief that

(47:16):
help the state like keep people in order and help
them like rule people. And then they're the ones that
are you know, subvert that. And you know, I've seen
analyzes of like Christianity being good for that because it
just teaches you to kind of uh turn the other
cheek and uh follow along. I mean I don't think

(47:37):
that's necessarily the only reading of Christianity, but that is
a reading. And I think it's interesting to read rap
and hip hop as sort of a subversion of that. Well. Yeah,
you think about a lot of the like big groups
they were first, like especially with gangster raps. This is
how it is for some people and you're like, oh

(47:58):
my god, this is vulgar. It's like this is reality. Well,
and it's seen so many different colors, right, Like rap
and hip hop has always been about storytelling, but it's
a different shade of the story that is absolutely reflective
of like the politicism of the times. So like if
you think about like how rap was born in New York,
that's very different than like or hip hop was born
in New York. Rather is very different than how gangster
rap was born in Los Angeles in the eighties and

(48:20):
the nineties. Like they're still using that same spirit and energy,
but it's focused in very different directions. It all depends
on what your reality is. And then you you sort
of molded. Yeah, like the early Ship is about just
like hey, like we're just doing this, We're having a
good time. Like it's very yeah, and it's very reflective
of like like island culture, right, And so you have

(48:41):
these people that like the whole idea of a sound
system and idea of sort of like elongated street parties
and not coming to New York, you know what I mean,
and taking that same concept and having everything be local
and just being like rapping about what you see, right,
bringing in the community. So it's kind of part preaching,
which is like kind of going to your Christianity thing
but then it always becomes a way to express yourself,

(49:02):
and then it becomes this counterculture thing because of what
it represents. It represents young people getting together that singularly
may not have a voice, but then collectively have the
ability not only to have a voice, but people to
put rhythm to that voice, which carries and then people
sing that song and sing it louder, and the next
thing you know, you have a whole motherfucker movement. So
of course that's appealing to cultures, especially cultures that are
traditionally in an area where you cannot be open and

(49:25):
like it takes a minute because people aren't listening to
music in the same way, right, And if you create
music in an under underground economy and it's black market already,
then it's like, oh, is this politicized because it's being
sold and it's profitable in the black market or because
of what it's saying? We're both right, which is like
that in China music industry is totally different. Ye. Absolutely.

(49:47):
I mean I remember when I was a kid, like
certain rap being off limits because it had the parental
guidance thing, and that is specifically a stamp of government disapproval,
like that's like we need to put this on to
pretend heck you from it, which only makes it more popular, right,
which made it so much dope. That's why I knew
I had a dope dad, because when all that stuff

(50:08):
was happening around Luke, him and my uncle who were
like record collectures and like really into music, We're like
really into this whole debate, and they went out and
bought us, me and my cousins to life Cree records,
to short records, like they came home with a stack
of everything that had the freshly minted like parental experience
explicit lyrics and like the Luke's. I remember watching Luke

(50:29):
videos with my family like as a child and yeah
and be like I'm watching like chicks and thongs working
and being like this is incredible. This is so incredible
because my parents and my dad and he felt so
strongly that like, what can you censor? Oh, this is
the government controlling you. You're not going to control my children.
So I'm gonna arm my children with like this counter message.

(50:51):
And he totally gave us tapes and was like, go
play it, play it loud with an adult yells that
you let me know. He was like waiting for you.
Let's see what happened. I mean, I will bump too short, loud, bitch, Like,
I feel like a lot of this is like stuff
that people said about rock music being like the music
of the kids and stuff, But I feel like a

(51:12):
lot of rock is also very commodified and like, I
don't know, like rap. I feel like if rap was
as easy to co modify and like change the message
of as rock than like we'd have a completely different
like hip hop landscape than we do right now. Well,
let's also think about something that's fundamentally different between rock

(51:34):
and between hip hop music. Rock is rock is largely
made by and for white people. Rip, like rapid hip
hop is done by people of color, is done by
most concernedly black people. Right, So that's probably a big
issue like that in a place in other places that
maybe a little bit more xenophobics, there are places that
are racist, like having your throngs of people also using

(51:56):
music that was like brought to light black black people.
Like that's probably another huge part of the issue, Like
would it be so subversive if it was done by
white people or what if you just teach like be like,
oh it's for the youth. Like, would people have their
hands up in arms about rap music if it was
largely done by white people? I don't think so, right, Yeah,
I mean if it was like followed the trajectory of

(52:16):
rock music, like the Beast two Boys would have come out,
and then all rappers after that would have been white people,
and it would have been like songs about like you know,
asking your girl to the school dance or whatever, or
that Miley Cyrus album. Right A Jay's on my Feet.
I went to the tour. It was great. It was

(52:37):
one of the most amazing things I've ever seen with
my eyes. It was great. But it's shame she put
the mic down. It think she's a better singer than
a rapper. So overall, though, like this is a movement
that kind of came up and like kind of grew
up outside of the system and outside of like resisted
commodification in America, and now as it's being exported, like

(53:01):
something about it seems like it just lends itself to
those same anti establishment ideals, right, So that's happening in China, right, Yeah,
with China, I mean, like it started off being like forbidden.
It's coming from the West, so already people are smuggling it.
And then from there you're like, why what do you
got that rap? Right? And in the beginning, a lot

(53:22):
of mcs apparently we're rapping in English at first, and
then they sort of like, now let's switch up the
message a little bit. Um. And I think now with
like the advent of like VPNs and things like that,
rappers are starting to get like their music out. Um.
But in this one documentary from the Atlantic, they were
talking about certain rappers who have well, essentially now like

(53:43):
it's illegal to do to be a rapper essentially, or
it's like very much frowned upon to do, like in
this one this one part of the country, they were
saying like, you know, if you're doing improvised performance, like
you will be scrutinized whatever. They're very flowery languages. But
when it comes to even Rush as well, it's been
this thing where they've noticed a young population get really

(54:04):
into it. They've tried to be like they've either tried
to stop concerts completely or both countries have also done
this thing where they're like, Okay, if we can't beat them,
let's have them join us. And that's where it's and
now like you started seeing these things where people like, yo,
that's not hip hop because you're just doing what the
state is telling you to do your their version um
where other people were like in Russia, they're like, let's

(54:25):
do a contest for rap, but talk about like places
to travel within Russia. Meanwhile, like some of these bigger artists,
there's one guy called I Think Husky. He like his
concert was like they pulled the plug on the speakers,
and the cops are like, you're not performing because you
got these kids turned the funk up on some like
I want to be a machine gun to shoot off
the face of the wealthy type ship. And so when

(54:46):
he came out there, like you stopped my show, he
got on top of a car and started being like,
well I'll do this ship acapella. People were screaming in
the streets. They arrested him for hooliganism and like this
is kind of the thing. And then Putin has also said,
you know, at like a round table like thinkers and
like the you know, protectors of culture, but for the
state was sort of like Okay, if we cannot stop them,

(55:07):
we will guide them and try to have these like
very sort of like lame attempts to try and have
like these like roundtable discussions with rappers. Most of them
didn't go because they're like, this is pr whack and
like there was that rap single that was released that
was all about how dope Russia is in Moscow and uh,
you know how cool put a stock footage and all

(55:28):
stock footage and people I hope weren't feeling that, Like
I don't think it like immediately took off. No, those
don't know they were laughing at them because there's an
option to or they've been incentivizing rappers to do more
like pro state rap, and I think and so people
are like, yo, what the fund is? No, no, absolutely not,
like not when other people are trying to get arrested.
But there's there is this thing when you look at it,

(55:51):
like whether it's them. There's another group of these young
kids who talk about all kinds of issues. They're more
like a poppy rapper rock group. UM. I think they're
called best Friends UM. And they dress up like like
just costumes and ship fun. But they're the things they're
talking about, like you know, sexual identity, gender identity, depression, suicide,

(56:12):
these things that are like they're like you know, this
is what it's like to be a kid. And these
kids come out in full force, and like even then
that you know, the Kremlin kind of looks at it
like fuck, like they've got all these kids like really
kind of getting in touch with the ills of society,
disposition of power. It's very un suddenly for the government
that used to having a stronghold. I mean, both of
these governments we're talking about. I mean China for sure,

(56:34):
you know edits and censors whatever comes into that country,
you know what I mean, Like no media, Like there's
not free media there like in any way, shape or form.
So it's like every piece of music, every piece of video,
everything that they watch, everything that's available on the internet
has to be approved. So of course having a dissenting voice,
even if it's bubbling. Yeah, and the idea that dissension
is is okay and acceptable. And it's like, you know,

(56:56):
under the guise of music that's threatening, that's super super threaten.
It's just interesting to see like how one thing, like
you know, they'll try and stop all these other things
from the West like to enter their countries. But it's
this power of like this music has people really like
thinking or ultimately because that engaging like Russia like putin
smart be like Okay, well, how can I use this
for me? You know what I mean? And I'm sure

(57:18):
there's also like local companies that are record companies that
are like, how can I monetize this? Right? How can
I package this so that it's acceptable because it does
have monetary value? Those kids, like children between the ages
of like eleven and twenty four. And I know that's
not children on the on the other side of but
like eleven eighteen, let's say, like those little motherfucker's there's

(57:39):
your streaming results right there. Like those are kids that
are just like have ship else to do besides I
just want to listen to They get into something and
listen to it all day long, a single day. Well,
it's interesting when you see like in this one documentary
they were interviewing some of fans outside of a show
where they're like, this show could get broken up that
by the police, Like I don't care. They're like because
the lyrics, like they said, are the lyrics of this artist?
Like are they representing what you believe? And these are

(58:00):
ones being like like the state fucked me, I'm dead inside,
and they're like, yeah, that's pretty much speaking for me.
And then when you look at how like even before
the show even started, like people just had their like
Bluetooth speakers and we're out their minds lid like it was,
and it's you can see, like when you see that energy,
I'm sure if you're running some kind of authoritarian government,

(58:22):
you're like, right, well, I mean, and also imagine the
power of seeing that though being like fifteen sixty and
feeling like you have nothing ahead of you, feeling like
all of your options are closed, feeling like you have
to follow exactly the path that your brother or your sister,
your mom, your grandma, you know what I mean. And
then to have this sliver of moment, the sliver of hope,
this three minutes of listening to the song where you

(58:43):
can actually that it exists and that you have access
to it, let alone being amongst other people that must
be I can't even imagine what that must feel like
to feel the power of those energies and like, oh,
there's a hundred other bodies here. If we put all
this energy together, maybe we could do something like that
is compelling back to like Putin and China, to trying

(59:04):
to like co opt the whole thing and like bring
it in line with like why don't we do a
rap that is the equivalent of one of those Russian
propaganda posters, where like people are working hard in the fields.
So that's the thing that I think is unique in
these stories. Like so in China, they created a reality
show that was like China Wraps, and it was like

(59:26):
China Wrap number one, and the person who won that
was then like national celebrity. But because his lyrics like
weren't in line with what they wanted, they like started
cracking down on him, and then that became like the
movement that ended up with them, uh making the entire
music genre illegal. And so it just seems like like

(59:50):
with when you think about like Hillary Clinton's two thousand
sixteen campaign, where there was like the like she did
like all the lit memes, like she did like the
Frozen challenge or whatever that challenge or the mannequin challenge.
You know, like that she did a mannequin challenge. Oh yeah,
they did it on her like campaign plan my spine.

(01:00:14):
But people were like, oh, it's so cool. Like it
just feels like a lot of other cultural forms and
media are able to be like subverted or like you know,
taken from like above and like turned to the interests
of the people in power. But something about rap and

(01:00:37):
just like it's foundational, like myth and like what's hard
to appropriate. It's really yeah, like there's something about authenticity
that like goes back to not just its origin story,
but like what is exciting about listening to it, like
the visceral experience of listening to it like that. I think,

(01:00:58):
I don't know, guys, I think hip hop has really
tapped into something. I think it's I think it's gonna
last for another couple of years. I think we might
hear about it grow up. I heard it here first
rap has got legs, guys. Turns out it's got legs.
I thought it was gonna be a rap eight. You
know what, somebody, somebody might be able to manage a career, right,

(01:01:19):
somebody might be able to do something with this thing.
You know, maybe I'm curious to see if that, you know,
what what the next evolutions are, because it seems like
it's you know, there's this there's this something about the
self expression part that people really like. I mean, as
it is, people still don't really like happy rap. Myself included. Yeah,
its like I don't really like if I can. I

(01:01:39):
say this all the time and people laugh at me
when I say it. But it's like I don't like
a rapper if I can hear him smiling while he raps,
you don't he's too happy, too smiling like my wife. Yeah, exactly,
like well adjusted, Like I just know I don't like
it issues. My only friend is a pit bull. Kevin
Gates is out of his mother love mind, but I

(01:02:01):
do like to listen to him. Wrap. Yeah, there are
some rappers out there where, Yeah, there's something you. It
helps you deal with your own ship when you like
scream wrapping someone else's verse out and I think that's
what that's the power. But now it's emo wrapped like
a lot of the young kids like the more emo ship.
But it's still kind of operating on the same thing.
It's never like, hey, my mom was pretty chill, my

(01:02:22):
dad hugged me. It's also like dark, I got all
the tapes I want it. It's still tapping into something
that is not generation going to be state sanctioned or
anything official sanctioned. It's like tapping into something that is
pain and struggle and Milania is like, I would like

(01:02:44):
to do a song with Little Zan be best I do.
I don't know, I the lab. I do want to
hear more from Freddie Gibbs, like I love. Freddy Gibbs
is one of my favorite appers. Hands down. He is beast.
Anytime he's taking a shirt off and wrapping, like I
want to be there. It's just into your head. I

(01:03:05):
don't know it's because I just pictured in my head.
I was like, oh, that's right, it's such a beautiful thing.
But the man can wrap his ass off. But his
shoutouts to his Instagram stories if you do not follow
Freddie Gibbs, especially like when you see him watching random
YouTube videos from like so long ago and you're like,
what is this dude doing and you're like this is
so good. Yeah, Like I know, I said, I don't
like to like listen to rappers. I can hear smile,

(01:03:26):
like I can't hear him smile when he wrapped. But
all he does is smile and laugh on his Instagram
stories and it makes me so happy, like I want
him to provide, like it's just it's great, need to balance.
It's so good. So shout out to Freddie for having
real for being a real one, Lydia. Speaking of real ones,
it's been a pleasure having you. It's been fun being here.
Where can people find you and follow you? Sure? On

(01:03:47):
Twitter at hater Tuesday, on Instagram at hater Tuesday. My
website is Lydia Popovich dot com. Those are the best
places to find me. Come out there, follow me on Twitter,
come see me in real life. I'm I'm all over
the world telling jokes. How many coming up? Um? Yeah,
I think so. I don't remember though, Alright, check the website. Yeah,
check that. Uh and is there a tweet you've been enjoying?

(01:04:10):
You know what? I wrote it down because I didn't
want to forget and I didn't walk through my phone.
Transposed transcript an old paper, kids, that's paper that weird
money or grandparents stairs. Um. So this is a tweet
of my friend Todd Masterson and it went viral last
week and it made me laughing, really happy. It said
this My husband, a thirty six year old adult man,

(01:04:33):
thought reindeer were a fictional animal made up for storytelling.
And he's the smartest person I've met. Trump might win again,
you guys. Shoutouts to Todd for that very funny tweet
and also shout outs to his Instagram account called gay
Fat Friend, which is one of the funniest ships I've
ever seen in a while, which basically just him photo

(01:04:55):
shopping himself into super twinkie skinny gays having great time,
and then it shows to him a fat waving in
the back like it's so fucking funny. So do yourself
a favor and look at it, because it is truly
one of the most simple and funniest things works of
art I've seen in a long time. Shoutouts to him,
He's a very funny man. Yeah, that's hilarious. Miles, where

(01:05:16):
can people find you? You can find me and follow
me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray. And
also my new podcast four twenty Day Fiance. Yes, yeah,
I'll pursume me, Sophia Alexandra. You know, we talked about
our favorite reality show, ninety Day Fiance. Uh in a
We're high. Uh So some tweets I like first from

(01:05:38):
the kid Merrow, because Kanye West tweeted a picture of
him and Dr Dre. He said yea and Dre Jesus
is King Part two coming soon, and Merrow said drop
in the same day as detox exactly. We'll see that one.
And then another one is from at Laura Fremmanny. It's
just like it's a random account, but it just tweeted
one of these videos says I'm weak l m Ao.

(01:05:58):
It's a video of these friends in a backyard just
throwing up children's play toys as high as they can
and being like, well if it hits one of us
with that's what it is. The camera's on the ground there,
they've all done the camera and then throw something behind
them and just it's like which one is it? Which
one of us? Is it going to hit? Even one
of those little tykes injection molded chairs that everybody knows

(01:06:20):
from day preschools. Yeah, it's just I don't know why.
It's just it's like stupid ass fun I had when
I was fourteen. It's like if when I was permanently
blacked out for a year in college I also had
kids at that time that You're like, this is all
these kids ship in there. I'll take a little takes

(01:06:42):
basketball hoop to the fucking dome. Uh. Some tweets I've
been enjoying. Did you give your Twitter hand? Yes? Oh yeah, yeah,
they are you know what it is. You'll know what
it is. A couple of tweets I've been enjoying. Dylan
Galula tweeted, refusing to look at my car's back up
camera as I park. It's not no, I hiss. I'm
getting angry now. Uh. Lukemans tweeted. Every flight, they're like, listen,

(01:07:05):
we built the plan for three people and eight bags.
We goofed. We need some volunteers to throw all their
stuff away. Uh. One day, I hope I have enough
time to be that hero and be like, YO, give
me that voute right now. I'm only going Burbank to Oakland,
but give me that vouchde. I used to say, I've

(01:07:25):
never been that person, and I've never been in an
airport where like I get to my concourse and it's
like right there, Like my gate is right there. It's
always like at the very very end. But then I
had a I had an experience where I was the
gate that was right there. Man, there's something I remember.
I was on a flight recently. This dude got up

(01:07:46):
so quick when they offered the voucher. I was like, you, sir,
how you must be retired. Yeah, He's like, I have
literally like I just don't want to see my family,
and I'll be like, oh, I fl I got deleted.
I can't make it. Then he's got a senior trip
money on the side that his wife doesn't know about. Oh,
gotta make another trip to San Francisco. I don't know.
Two three days this time, fulsome street fair this weekend.
I don't know what does that play September. Also, one

(01:08:09):
more let tweeted, you glance at a white girl's notebook
and class and there she is just drawing a single eye.
And I used to do that too, but do it
so well. Yeah, reflection, that little reflection. Wow. I feel
like every library I've ever been to college had that

(01:08:30):
ship going on. Wow wow wow Wow. That's one of
those one of those straight to the heart tweets. You
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(01:08:53):
the information that we talked about in today's episode, as
well is the song we ride out on miles. What's
that gonna be today? This is a track by o'rian's
son and it's called Stretch, and it's got like I
don't know, it's like it sounds like a like a
R and B song that could have been made like
ninety two, but it's clearly made now with a little
more modern swag on it. But you can just tell
from like the drum loop. It's very much like like

(01:09:17):
Eric being rock himps something. I don't know, it's got
it's got like. Look, I was feeling like I was
in the past and the future at the same time.
I think that's why I really liked this song. Uh.
And it's just you know, just enjoy it. It's called Stretch.
Orian Son also my nickname for Paul Stretch, have a
youth Stretch not not shorty. Yeah. The Weekend The Daily

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