The Great Regret Psy Op, Imposter Syndrome Or Just Bad Civilization? 07.27.22

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to forty seven,
episode four of Jo Daily's stay production of I Heart Radio.
This is a podcast where we take a deep dive
into America's share consciousness. That Thursday, July, which of course
means it is Yeah. Also Buffalo Soldiers Day. Okay, if

(00:26):
you're not familiar with the black like black regiments in
the Civil War, the Buffalo Soldiers, this is a day
to celebrate the the irony of having them fight for
their own liberation in the Civil War. But yes, heroes,
no less. Also National water Park Day, National Chili Dog Day.
I don't know if those two go together, because I

(00:46):
feel like, yeah, I mean those two go together, and
so like could go together on a good day, on
a bad day not so yeah, that was that like
potential disaster. But and also on National Milk Chocolate Day.
This is pretty pretty solid milk chocolate, not chocolate milk. Yeah,
I'm getting no thosen't key holidays. I love a water park.

(01:09):
I just date a chili dog this past weekend at
Griffith Park at the snack Park Griffith Park adventurous and
I didn't I didn't get sick from it, So I
count that as a win I had I'm not joking
for hot dogs last night at the Dodgers. Oh yeah,
you went to the Dodgers game. Did they win? By
the way, because now that I wear a Dodgers hat,
people will like wow, just look at me and be

(01:30):
like dah the fucking Dodgers. Right yeah, yeah, man about
those about that? You know, it's we we lost. That
was it was. It came close, but then fucking I
think it was like want soda or something like this
took us, took us home. But anyway, I had a

(01:51):
ton of g lizzies. So called me glizz Elda because
it's just NonStop glizzies over here. Were not even a day. Ok.
That was an a K A up Harrisif al right, Well,
my name is Jack O'Brien, a K Mike Breen, Mike Breen,
Mike Breen, Mike Breen Curry hits the three and you

(02:13):
yell bang cursie of Schwitz at Schwitz eight on Twitter,
and I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my
co host, Mr Miles grad And I said, did you
go see anger management? He said, I did, but then
I walked out and as I recall, I equipped you're

(02:37):
a real tough guy. Then I put him in a
rear naked joke and Christie, I'm a Gucci mane at
Walpole House, just very accurately describing the tale of mile
high school classmate guy because they walked out of a
movie you hadn't seen. I don't know like and I

(03:00):
still can't speak to what in my weird We're all
going through some ship and adolescence. It just happened, you
know what I mean. I'm not gonna blame it all
on nine eleven, but it certainly didn't help. Thank you well.
We are thrilled to be joined once again by a
very funny comedian, actor, presenter and host of the podcast

(03:23):
Probably Science. You know him from such things as TV.
It's Matt Kersion. Hello, Hello, Matt, how are you doing. Hey?
I'm good. I'm very good. I'm happy to be on
back on the show. How are you guys good? It's
I had no idea what a National Water Park Day.
I nearly went to a water park last week and
then decided against this, and now I feel like I've

(03:44):
let the side down. What happened, Well, I was in
Vegas and I was looking for things to do. During
the day and I couldn't. I couldn't muster enough support
from the other comics. And going going to water park
by yourself is suspicious at best. Yeah, or just always
be like, just like call out for a child, kid,

(04:09):
I wonder if he's halfway down this right? Yeah? Have
you seen have you seen a kid? Just go down here?
I'll just look myself, man. Yeah, I'm just gonna write
a single writer, single writer. Yeah. Did you find your
go to a water park with goggles on? That's a

(04:31):
crazy yeah, goggles on a snorkel, snorkel, Yeah, if don't
wear a scuba mask. We did doubly screw up though,
on that same note, because so we we didn't go
to the water park. What we ended up going to
was an American Ninja Warrior contest. It was at the
That's what I thought it was at the Orleans Arena,

(04:52):
and it wasn't televised, So I figured, like, some of
them will be great and that will be amazing, and
something would be less great and it will be doubly amazing.
And then we get it there and all those Ninja
warriors look young, they're all pretty small. We got into
the box office and like what's the deal And he goes, yeah,
they're all kids. Yeah, and we go it's ticketed, and

(05:14):
he goes, yeah, thirty dollars and uh, and we were like,
I think if you pay thirty bucks to watch children exercise,
you end up on a list. Yeah, for sure, and
deservedly so probably. Yeah, me and the other comics we
sort of well, like, I think we should leave you. Yeah,
we should definitely leave right now. Not even just being

(05:35):
in this building is a step too far. And yet
I think that would be kind of fun to watch
children just like dominate and like do things that I
could never dream of being able to do if it
was free entry. If it was free entry, I think
we would have gone. If it was like five bucks
as well, we would have maybe gone in, got some
drinks and started like yelling at kids. But I think

(05:57):
thirty dollars is a suspiciously high amount to pay, right,
especially if you don't exasizing children that we are not
in any way related to write for, having no relation
to any of the contestants. Spending thirty dollars signals to
the world that you think it's worth the money, you know,
and that's where you have to defend yourself. You're like,
but thirty dollars, You're like, you know some of these

(06:17):
kids I've been following for a while, and I'm really
excited about some of these guys. Yeah. Yeah, I guess
it would be like really impressive kids and then like
wildly dysfunctional families they're supporting them. Oh, they were like
they were adults going in with teath with like wearing
things like sweaters that said like ninja mom and stuff.

(06:41):
They are they are competitive parents. I didn't even know
it was a thing, but it's enough of a thing
that there are competitive parents about it either. Did I
didn't realize about the ninja warrior industrial complex that we're
even like getting them young, like being like, hey man,
you make sure your kids are like competing young or
else they're not going to have a shot ninja word stuff. Yeah,

(07:02):
they don't develop the muscles, right if you don't get
them ninja ing by the like you hear that in
other sports, right, like football or like soccer, right where
they say like, look, if you're not like playing in
a some kind of academy set up by the time
you're twelve, like you don't even bother like think you're
playing professionally. When I guess I wonder if like there's
some con artists Ninja Warrior guys like look, man, your
kid looks look like they love the Jungle gym. Man.

(07:22):
But if they're trying to get serious about Ninja Warrior,
like they need to be in the gym yesterday and
no four Square, no anything except they need to be
a one sport athlete. American Ninja war No four Square,
no British Ninja Warrior, no nothing else. Yeah, they better

(07:42):
not be, you know, meddling with that trash original I P.
Saske which came from Japan, which had inspired the whole thing.
It's all about American Ninja war don't do more the
original stuff. Wait, ninja didn't come from America. Oh I look,
the jury still out and I'm half Japanese and I'm
still trying to figure it out. Yeah, this is this

(08:03):
is something Miles and I always disagree on. He says
they didn't, and I'm like, come on, man, I mean
I got about thirty movies starring Chuck Norris to show
you why just Donna Tello have an American accent. All right, Matt,
We're gonna get to know you a little bit better
in a moment. First, we're gonna tell our listeners a
couple of things we are talking about today. We're going

(08:26):
to talk about the ongoing PSI up being perpetrated by
the mainstream media trying to get us all to go
back to our shitty jobs, go back to the office.
We will talk about impostor syndrome and whether that's actually
what's happening there, all of that plenty more. But first, Matt,

(08:47):
we do like to ask our guest, what is something
from your search history? So I've already given the game
away a little bit because to a couple of things
in my search history a water Part Vegas and American
Ninja Warrior Vegas. I can tell the other thing we
landed on, which was Monster Jam Vegas, because that was
the last thing I was. I was in Vegas for
full week and I was pretty bored during the days.

(09:09):
So Monster Jam, I don't even know that is. That
is a monster trucks. That is a monster truck tournament,
big trucks, huge tires, doing backflips, jumping over things. It
was also that the addition of Jam makes it feel
like they're getting to, like, you know, go off book

(09:30):
a little bit, just like j just noodle around with
the monster truck. It's just monster yeah, freestyle and at
anyone with their own truck can kind of sit in.
It's just a jam. Baby, We're just getting down at
the monster. Hey, do you mind if I brought my truck?
If do you mind if I just you know, if
I jam with you guys. I mean, I'm in the

(09:53):
famous truck called Grave Digger. But what do you got?
I got this old one Chevy S ten with a
tonnel cover. We can kind of bubb out with it.
It's it's mostly made from a cigar books uh that
made it, and Ye've been passed down for generations. It's
been through been a few jams. Wait was Grave Digger President?
Because I feel like a monster jam, I only like

(10:15):
it used to be big Foot was like the monster
truck that like the both. Yes, then it's a proper
monster jam at the Thomas and Macarina. That's exactly it's
That's the only place it can be. Something thought it
was like some like nineties hip hop remake of the

(10:36):
Monster Mash. But I'm glad. I'm glad it is what
it is. I've definitely heard from like people who I
wouldn't expect necessarily to be monster truck fans, just in
the traditional sense, being like I went to a monster
truck rally. It's awesome, and now that is something I'm into,
Like I identify as a monster truck person, you know,

(10:56):
like the I don't know if I would put myself
that far in the category, but I'm definitely someone who
gets bored on the road doing stand up around the
country and looks for things to do, and yeah, maybe
I'll get something I could talk about on stage out
of it, or maybe I'll just get an experience out
of it that I can tell people about or just
enjoy myself for a couple of hours before I go

(11:17):
back to the hotel room. For you, what's been the
most fruitful sort of like experimental event you went to,
like in the same vein and you're like, holy shit,
I got a lot of more out of this in
many levels than I thought I would. Oh, there's a
great question. I don't I honestly don't know. I I
think some of the ones that were just surprising, going

(11:38):
going to a laser tag in a bought with another
comic that was that was a lot of fun. That
was just like I was expecting. I hadn't been since
I was a kid, and I was like, all right,
let's see how we go. And then it was just
you know, we we absolutely murdered the kids. Oh god.
Now it's just like really because you know, you're doing

(11:58):
stuff during the day, and most people will have real jobs,
so if you go and do these things, it won't
be just being a couple of idiot comedians. And then
just paris like a seventh grade birthday party exactly, and
I want to grade birthday party. And I was like,
I'll let the kids have their fun, and then like
one of them shot my kid and then I was
just on a rampage after like the last year it

(12:20):
was like not doing fun stuff. I was, I like
found a good spot and then just like sniped the
hell out of like everyone. So we're first blooding it.
Were you playing at Ultra Zone? Yeah? I talked. We
talked about this. Yeah, where you get where you used
to work? Where I used to work in Dr Dre
watched me make me very uncomfortably go there to Matt

(12:41):
it was that was that where you went for for later? No,
Where's Where's Ultra Zone? Badly? Like in Sherman Oaks and
we don't even need to tell people that usually justin
you can cut that out because ultrazone is nationally famous.
Ione knows where ultrazone is. Someone surviving? Did you get
ultra Zone? Was it ultrasone then ultra Zone? No? What
is that? That's actually the first thing that Miles had

(13:04):
on his resume when we were like thinking about, you know,
bringing him on for this show was proud alumnus, alumnus
of Ultra Zone exactly and no, no follow up, just
ultra Zone. That's it. That's all you need to know.
Is is a week the longest time you've ever spent
consecutively in Vegas? And follow up? Is it the longest

(13:24):
time anyone has ever spent consecutively in Vegas? Because that
feels like a long time to be in Las Vegas.
It is a very long time, I would say. I
would say pen and Tella have beaten that amount of
time by several decades. But other than that, they have
to get out, we need travel every day. Well, they
definitely don't live on the Strip. I'm pretty sure they
live in nice houses and then commute into the Yeah,

(13:47):
I would say that is exactly five and a half
days longer than you should ever spend in Vegas. Vegas
is fantastic for about thirty six hours, and that's that's
the limits. I had to work on a Senate campaign
there for two months. And were you on the strip

(14:07):
to just like literally one block off the strip like that?
The Candlewood Extended Stays fucking hotel was strip, Matt, You
have no idea. This was like right after the subprime
like crash, so there were so many displaced people living
in this extended stay like hotel, like on Halloween, like

(14:29):
kids or trick or treating, and like I had like
a front row seat at like the financial collapse of America,
and I changed at a molecular level being there for
two months. I'm not gonna lie it. It definitely puts something,
put some pep in my step to get the funk
out of politics. Mhm alright, what is something that you
think is underrated that underrated? Well, this is gonna. I've

(14:50):
got really into the Women's euro right now, and I
don't know if it counts us underrated because it's getting
huge in the UK. It's selling out now, they're selling
out stadiums. But they were playing in front of like
fifty people recently and now they're paying in front of
tensive houses, so I don't know if it is becoming
appropriately rated as we speak, but it's been awesome. Yeah,

(15:13):
it's fantastic. A you're a England it's coming home, huh,
going to the finals, going to the finals and looking
actually good. So I'm excited about that. Yeah, they beat
they beat the breaks off Sweden. For no, I've been
watching too because I love like there's so many players
I root for from the England team and other teams.
But yeah, it's it's really really it's a great. It's

(15:34):
a great We also have we have season tickets to
Angel City, which is the team there, and it's again
just awesome. It's great. It's I cannot recommend highly enough
like women women soccer. Just firstly the game is good,
but also just it's the most enjoyable atmosphere you go
in there and it's just it's it's the most positive, supportive.

(15:55):
It's it's families and then like every lesbian in the
greater Los Angeles area and it's just a great time.
It's it's just like really like it's just like every
it's it's really queer it's really female friendly, it's really
family friendly. It's just and but also just really competitive
and hypes up and it's it's fun, just like men's soccer, right,

(16:17):
just exactly. That's exactly exactly on the terraces in England
in the seventies, exact same exactly that. Yeah, racial slurs,
you've not even considered me, that will confuse you, exactly.
You've got to you've got to unpick it like a
cross broad clue. You're like, you have to work it
out before, you know, to be offended, you know what.

(16:38):
Oh oh, do you think that's what they meant? Yeah, yeah, okay,
that that is okay. Hey wait, so they were like
they were playing to fifty people and then I mean fifties,
like an fifties a little bit of an exaggeration, but
it has been. Yeah, they've been playing in front of
like a few thousands and in the small of the

(17:00):
stadiums and stuff, and it's just getting bigger and bigger.
And because the tournaments in England, the England Games of particularly,
they've been selling out Premier League grounds and the final
is at Wembley Stadium and it's already completely sold out.
So yeah, that's that's I don't know what women these
capacity is, but it's in the I think my fingers.
Yeah it's it's nine ninety and also shout out Beth Meade,

(17:26):
who's the top score for England and the tournament also
plays for Arsenal Women's as Just as you moved your head,
I saw the Emirates logo. Yeah, yeah, you saw, Yeah,
you saw the kid. You know, I'm I'm I'm totally
gunner brained, so I'm like like that's why I like
I'm watching everybody like, look at them all flours. I
love it. Wish the Dutch did a little bit better though, Yeah,

(17:47):
me too. I think it's a plat me too. I
wish the Dutch did better. I saw the Emirates logo,
totally know what that means, and excited about the as well.
What's something you think is over rge it? I was
torn on this one. Can I have to because I
cann't decide between Sweet Potato Fries and the Beach Boys. Um,

(18:10):
all right, let's let's I think sweet Potato Fries is
a great call and pretty self explanatory. Let's go in
on the beach Boys just just too tweet and Diddley.
I just can't do it. I can't do it. I'll
give you, I'll give you some of pet Sounds and
like and when Brian Wilson went really off the rails,

(18:33):
that was basically just Brian Wilson by that point, just
in a in an acid casualty cocoon without the beach Boy.
But most of it's just too just too deadly for me. Yeah,
even pet sounds. So I am a Beach Boys fan,
even pet sounds. I feel like you have to sometimes
pretend they're singing in a different language that you don't

(18:55):
know to appreciate it because the words are like so
it's like, what didn't eleven year old? Right? This song?
Like the like arrangements are beautiful, the instrumentation, like the
production is so incredible, and then it's like, wouldn't it
be neat if we got I'll give you that, yeah,

(19:17):
which I mean there's a sweetness to some of it,
but I yeah, sometimes I'm just like, I'm gonna just
turn the language receptors off in my brand for this one.
And sometimes that's okay, but I I do have to
defend the artistry of Mike Love not just my favorite
Beach boy, maybe my favorite artist of all time. Uh.

(19:39):
This man is responsible for Kokomo. He's responsible for telling
Brian Wilson to funk off with all his creative cleverness
of pet sounds one of He's responsible for flashing uh
thumbs up and wearing a captain's hat about the fifty
times and every performance that I've ever seen of him

(20:00):
just took being a world class piece of ship capitalist
to levels of artistry that I don't think anyone like.
He was the person who like kind of sent Brian
Wilson off the rails. He was like, that sounds sucks, dude,
sorry to tell you. We can put it out. It's
not gonna sell. And then it didn't sell, and Brian

(20:21):
Wilson was like, fuck, I'm the worst and stayed in
bed for like three years. What was the intersection with
Charles Manson? Was it like the drummer that was friends
with him or something one of the Wilson brothers. I
think maybe Dennis Wilson was just like Charles Manson was
just like a sociopath. He was like hanging around everybody

(20:43):
that was fam lifted his house for a while like that.
The family actually lived in his house for a bit.
He put him to record a couple of songs with him. Yeah.
And when you listen to Charles Manson's music, like I
do every day just to get to get myself right
in the morning show, it's it's like heavily, heavily influenced.

(21:08):
It's like if I just all of a sudden tried
to record a Beach Boys song. Alexa placed Charles Manson
on Spotify. Don't do that to people. Is there an
I Heeart Radio Manson channel? Is there? Oh? You better
believe it? Yeah? Well serious, he got to check out
Serious x MS. Right, it's just twenty four hour Manson

(21:29):
family demos. It's just old Rush Limbo episodes they play
and then just occasionally help a Skelton by the Beatles. Yeah,
just kind of spice it up. I think one of
the motivations for like the killings at like the Tate
La Bianca murders was that they were going to that
house because that's where a record producer lived who had

(21:52):
like turned down his demo. So like his whole thing
was he just wanted to be famous, and he was like, well,
hanging out with the bat Tooys didn't work. I guess
we'll go with this and to be fair, mission accomplished. Yeah. Yeah,
I mean, I I know his name. Probably I knew
his name before I knew Dennis Wilson's name. Yeah, so

(22:12):
in your face, Dennis Wilson a century later, he's still
being spoken about on a radio show. Yeah exactly, exactly. Wow.
I just like the idea that there's just this one
anecdote where it said, oh, it says when Wilson took Manson,
inspiring musician to record in his studio, Manson had a
disagreement with Wilson's producers and ended up pulling a knife
on them. Yeah, you know so, but this was also

(22:36):
this was the sixties, So yeah, that's just I don't
think that's that unusual behaving few musician, he said. They're
just like always one of those temperamental ones, right exactly.
That's how they would just settle disputes. Was always the
beat it music video style where you could try your
hands together and like do the knife dance. You think
Phil Specta didn't pull knife on recording engineers all the time, right,

(23:00):
Philli Specker stayed with his knife out, and then when
when it was a special when it was a special time,
he would start licking off shots was actually a bunch
of knives on a board that he would move closer
to the performing artists to be like, alright, Matt Miles,
let's take a quick break. We'll come back and we'll

(23:22):
talk about the news. Shall we agreed? All right, and
we're back and uh yeah, we're just checking in. We
like to we like to check in with the continued

(23:42):
PSI up that's happening and in your Bloomsburg and your
fortunes where where they're just trying to make people feel
bad about leaving their jobs and like trying to take
some autonomy over their own careers. They're like, man, people,
people don't like it. People regret that they did that.
There could coming back and saying sorry daddy to their

(24:05):
exactly where they have to crawl through a dusty like
fucking crawl space like Homer when he has to beg
for his job back from Mr Burns and he's like, yeah,
is this is this an up head fight? Any shots?
Written by Jonathan Boss Management Company by Sea Montgomery Burns. Actually,
but so like about a week ago, you know, we

(24:26):
brought up this like constant back and forth and especially
the financial news sector that kept waffling between people are quitting, help,
what do we do into? Actually gen Z hates a
remote work and that's a good thing. So people who
like remote work are dumb. Was sort of like the
gist of him, like what the fun is going on? Also,

(24:46):
Commercial Landlord of Commercial Landloading believe that people hate working remotely.
The young people do not like it as well. I
asked a group of ninth graders what they thought of
remote work. They don't funk with it, and it's like
that's not a good sample size. So in the last
two weeks now we're seeing fucking headlines like this. This
is from Bloomberg. Millions of Americans regret the great resignation. Uh.

(25:12):
Then Fortune magazine with the financial yes and comes through
with the great regret. Doesn't mean employers are off the
hook now, see this is I like to see this
balance that's coming out with pieces like this because the
first headline serves as an announcement that um, actually people
regret looking for better prospects and outcomes for their lives.

(25:33):
But keep in mind what they're when when you look
at this sort of sub headline, it says about one
quarter of job leavers rue the decision. Oh that's three
courts of people are glad they left their job. So really,
seventy five percent of people that left their jobs aren't
regretting it. Maybe that's the fucking headline, and I like

(25:55):
that they can use it because it's the American workforce.
It can sound like millions, but let's get a way
to get ahead of ourselves. You said that is higher
than I and I think most people would expect like that,
somebody leaving their job just because they're like, nah, fuck it,
like I don't really like this job and I'll find
something better. That seventy percent are like that actually worked

(26:16):
out is pretty like incredible, Like it is not what
I would expect. There's a lot of projection that also,
just like projecting desire and intention onto what's actually just
a pragmatism and expedientcly like just people who weren't being
paid for a job during the pandemic and weren't being

(26:37):
given benefits, stop doing that job and now a lot
of those benefits has been taken away. They need jobs
again and so have had to apply. It's going like, oh,
these people did this for this and did that. No,
they just they just did the normal thing that everyone
normally does, which is way up a basic pro and
con cost benefit analysis of I need to do this

(27:00):
job right now? Do not need to do this job right? Well,
look who needs rents? And so now it's actually too well.
At any given time, most people do the least bad
job that would give them enough money to be able
to survive. Like it just where that line is moves

(27:21):
up and down depending on circumstance. And that's what has happened.
That line has just moved up and down, I think, yeah,
And it's really just trying to have reckoned with the
like the fact that the initial shutdown from the pandemic
really gave people a moment to pause and like reset
their expectations for themselves. And guess what seventy percent of
those people were like I did, I made the right move,

(27:42):
and maybe the other twenty five probably fell into a
difference that you they might not be like, actually, I
actually went to a job I didn't like out of
necessity more so that I regret leaving it. So they're
still in the American workforce. It's not great. It's not
great out there, but like not at a Yeah, yeah,
it's not like everyone's just doing lu Ow's now also

(28:05):
that like, I mean, this is a net gain. People
leaving jobs they like for jobs they like more is
a net gain. And that was made possible by the
Great resignation, which was made possible by the government just
giving the least amount of assistance, just like a small
amount of assistance that would give people breathing room to
be like, all right, now I can actually like look
at my life and think about like things with like

(28:28):
some objectivity instead of just being sucking check to check
every single day. And like, I think about how much
happier that has made America overall. And the working from
home thing, Like I'm not a hunt persent advocate for
working the home. There were things that I think I
I I think writing rooms like TV writing rooms are
still better. I love being in a room with people

(28:50):
bouncing off them. I think the energy is still better
than being on zoom. But you don't need to be
in there all the time. You can do a lot
of it remotely and then have like the kind of
meetings and it's just hamming home. How much of most
jobs is just busy work and giving the appearance of working,
and how much of it is just bullshit as a result,
And I think that's what the last two years have done.
One the thing else, it's just really pulled the curtains

(29:11):
back and just shown how much of most jobs is
acting the parts and completely unnecessary and showing willing Yeah,
exactly capitalistic pantomime basically for people to be like, yes, see,
I am creating value by typing on keyboard and then
talking to my friends for the rest of the other
six hours that I'm here. Yeah, it turns out I

(29:33):
can do this job in three hours a day, but
I have to still appear to be here eight hours
a day to give the justification for this job. But no,
why not just if they're getting the job done in
three hours, pay them for those three hours what you
would pay them for day hours. And that the last
time you were on I was I was out. But
that was before the pandemic. So you don't know this
about me. But before the pandemic, I had just a

(29:54):
slick to the side, hare do three piece suit at
all times, in a pocket watch that I would check
every nine seconds, take a deep breath and just mop
my brow a little bit, and then quill and furiously
writing down notes on your parchment's paper and then second

(30:16):
that won't do that, won't do um. But then this
like Fortune article is sort of like yes, ending it,
but trying to give like this it says the great
regret doesn't mean employers are off the hook, and what
they talk about me It says like, hey, just because
some of these people fucking regret trying to better their lives,

(30:38):
it doesn't mean you the employer can just fucking skate
by with your toxic workplace and like you know expectations
of employees, which is sort of like threatening the needle
in between where sort of like yes, ending the idea
that like a lot of people are regretting it, and
I'm sure some people do, but then like sort of
giving maybe someone who's reading this the false sense of
security or like are being like, oh, okay, this this

(31:00):
sounds good because now they're sort of trying to signal
to the employer class that they have things that they
have to do in order for me to go back
to fucking toil for you know, a pittance when we're
trying to have a living wage. So it just sort
of it's interesting to see how like they all kind
of work together kind of be like all right. Now
we're in the new phase of saying people fucking regret

(31:22):
seeking better opportunities. Don't be too hard on them out there, fellas.
All right, we know they fucked up, all right, and
they know they fucked up, so just go easy, all right,
don't don't don't be trying to get them back to
work by offering better conditions and pay and then like
that because because so yeah, you know, let's let's let's

(31:43):
keep let's not let's not have any kind of inflation
of pay or a benefits or anything like that, no
better conditions, just we'll just we'll just keep everything the
same and everyone will eventually hopefully come back. There's this
other thing, right then, Fortune two weeks ago had the
this isn't the fucking same section. Many people who joined
the Great Resignation were credit and it means bosses can

(32:06):
take back power. What wow? Is that an opinion piece?
Like like, I'm really curious, Um, don't worry. What if
it's an opinion or analysis like it it's real, dude,
it's sucking real. And they go to this other thing
that they're saying, like, yeah, man, a lot of the
people who say they miss it, they miss their work family.

(32:28):
They work family. Oh my god, they're doing the thing.
They're legitimizing the CEO talking point of look, welcome, welcome
to the job. But really you're not being welcome to
a job. You're being uh welcomed to a family. We're
really a family around here, and as has been pointed out,
that means you're about to get fucked by whatever job

(32:50):
is telling you. You're a you're a family. Yeah, because
you can choose. You can't choose your family, right, Yeah, exactly,
that's a dysfunctional, abusive family where we actually don't truly
give a funk about you, but we pretend to and
you still have to like hang out with us, but
you can't. You can't really get away with the get

(33:11):
away they think too is like this is really instructive
where they say they're like the people that regret it.
This is from this that articles as bosses can take
the power back. The biggest reason workers are feeling quitters
or more is that they gave notice without another job
lined up. Yep, yeah, that sounds that's again practical. That
sounds like the group of people who would be like
I funked out up. Huh, I just quit the job

(33:34):
and didn't have any other prospects signed up. Now, I
guess sometimes you quit because there's no fucking You're like,
there's no way I can continue at this job. But
that seems like pretty spot on for someone who like, so,
did you know of the people who were who quit
a job and not having a job lined up? Do
you regret that? And yeah? What like, yeah, that was bad?

(33:54):
And then they're saying like, look at this man. Now
you've got the opportunity for what they call quote boomerang
employees who will turn to daddy and some of those
people regret having like taken a dump in the CEO's
office and then the parking lockdown. Right, those guys regret
it ship on his laptop and then closed it on

(34:14):
the ship. It's like that I shouldn't have closed it
on the ship, and we might have been able to
salvage this thing. Yeah, because there's no amount of rice
that you can put that in now the yeah, yeah,
that's pretty much useless. But yeah, like, of all those
I honestly think that one fortune one that says like
just because people don't like, aren't you know, maybe only
three quarters of people don't regret going back doesn't mean

(34:37):
you can't, you know, adjust your shitty workplace. I mean
I think that at the end of the day, that
should be the one thing that if it does feel
like usable information for an employer, is that, like, dude,
the biggest thing that most people fucking hate about a
job is the work culture or the office culture, or
if it's toxic or feels like there's no place for
them to be human. And also they're not paid enough
to have feel like they have any autonomy, right Jack,

(35:00):
you read if you're reading these other articles they say, dude,
some people don't care if they're not getting paid as much,
if the environment's chill enough and they like the people
they're around. It's like they get wild from a secession,
right from severance right right, right, it's just wild to read,
like just sort of how that's articulated to like to

(35:20):
these people to it's like, hey, dude, they'll fucking take
ship money if it's like more funzies, right, yeah, one
ping pong table is worth like year, right exactly? How
many what's your yeah, what's your bean bag? Being back
to like mono stool ratio on the office being back

(35:40):
to health insurance ratio like it also makes sense of
the fortune thing that like, they so they published the
article that was like transparently, openly and somewhat aggressively as sociopathic.
That was like employees regret quitting and now here's how
to pound and take advantage of them. And then like

(36:03):
somebody in their editorial room. Again we've talked about how
like people in journalism aren't like they they're not like
churned out by like the CIA there, you know, people
with souls and working brand. So somebody in their editorial
room was like, uh that, like that came off really weird,
like we should do something else, and like so two

(36:24):
weeks later they churn out this one that is like
the great regret doesn't mean employers are off the hook,
so it's like that's their counterbalance. But it still takes
place in a universe where it's like, oh, these little
fuckers are so screwed. Man, Well, it still takes place
in a universe that where the great Regret is a

(36:46):
sun as seemed true that people will be reading about
definitely true. Doesn't mean that this other stuff isn't also valid,
but oh man, anyway, so continue to add the cave
for better outcomes for yourself, and don't listen listening to
fucking nonsense articles that are just meant to pacify people,
especially ones in articles named after billionaires who are only

(37:12):
have a thing because they're billionaires, or named after a
euphemism for billions of dollars fortune euphemism for exploiting people's
lab Fortune magazine Soldier of m Never mind, All right,
let's say quickly, we'll be right back, and we're back.

(37:43):
So I've had this thing, uh kind of bounced around
my head about impostor syndrome for a while. I well, now,
so I read. I read a really cool article on
impostor syndrome and blood knife. This is a publication that
I highly recommend people check out. It's also the source
of that conversation we had a while back about the
complete like neutering and de sexualization of all like modern

(38:09):
blockbusters and like how the sex has just been complete
as characters and actors have gotten like more and more
buff and like indistinguishable from one another in terms of
like how what they look like in in movies. They've
just completely removed any sex from like the most popular
movies in America. Was a very interesting article. So they

(38:30):
have a new article on imposter syndrome that I thought
is it was really interesting. I think I feel like
it ties into our recent conversation on social media making
people unhappy about bullshit jobs. Yeah, about bullshit jobs. At
a conversation about Sunday scar ease. We actually had a
listener reach out after that conversation saying that like their

(38:51):
Sunday scaries went away when they went from you know,
unfulfilling spreadsheet work basically helping employers make the case for
postponing people's raises to working on behavior tech for like
children with disabilities, which that that makes sense. It's like
when I started doing something that was like fulfilling and

(39:13):
that didn't pay as much, but it was like fulfilling
at a deeper level, I stopped having existential dread on Sundays.
So anyways, the the essay on impostor syndrome basically suggests
that we feel like impostors. Like It starts out with
talking about like Tina Fey and Meryl Streep are two
examples of people who are you know, Meryl Streep one

(39:37):
of the finest living American actors, Tina Fey one of
our greatest joke writers, and they've both talked about how
they feel like the impostors, and we've always just treated
it like it's a pathology of like, you know, the
difference between how great you are and how great people

(39:58):
say you are and then like you feel like on
the inside. And this essay basically positive that we feel
like impostors when we get success in the modern American system,
because the system itself is empty and basically designed to
like make rich people richer at the end of the day.

(40:20):
So is it kind of arguing that it's not that, say,
Tina Faie feels like an imposter as a creator of
TV and movies, of of comedic content, but she feels
like an impostor for being part of this Hollywood machine
because of her incredible talent at making TV and movies. Yeah,

(40:41):
and because like so it talks about how people who
suffer from impostor syndrome a lot of the time are
upwardly mobile. They're people who have experienced you know, They're
not the people who are like the CEO s Son
is not experiencing like impostor syndrome when the CEO makes
him ceoo because they've never known anything else. As people

(41:02):
who have like worked their way up and then they
get to that level and they're like, oh everyone is
suddenly like treating me or paying me in such a
way that like like I've like escaped the human condition.
But like I know all the people who I worked
with on the way up or more talented than any

(41:23):
of these dipshits like up here, and like I see
like how arbitrary the successes and like the you know,
the just the whole design of the system being you know,
designed to just deliver success via nepotism or via like
a college degree or something like that, like something that

(41:46):
is it's just a sense that like it delivers rewards
in a way that is like not doesn't make any sense.
And and like you can kind of take a moment
once you achieve success and be like, oh, this is
the whole thing is like bullshit. It's like, yeah, I
got here randomly like or it comes out and survivor's

(42:06):
guilt too, I know, for a lot of like marginalized
people to just like when you get up there manifests
and survivor's guilty, You're like, why me of all the people,
because I know other people who look like me or
come from similar circumstances who don't have a third of
the opportunity, and you begin to be like, well, then
what the funk do I have? Like maybe, but this
is bullshit. I've I've definitely experienced that myself, where I

(42:27):
was like felt guilt over the fact that I was
upwardly mobile and was like, well, what the fund does
that mean? And I think what's important though, to even
point out about imposter syndrome is that when that when
that the term was coined in the late seventies, the
people who did that study had they they didn't, They
didn't they never actually factored in like what like classism,

(42:51):
systemic racism, or like xenophobia, those kinds of biases, like
how that actually factors into how people experience to their
lives too, And like in the Harvard Business Review, they're
also saying like there's an interesting way to even look
at imposter syndrome, like there is that feeling where there's
like a disconnect between what value you feel you're providing
versus what you think is valuable. And then also this

(43:13):
idea that you will feel like naturally marginalized people, women
women of color will are going to feel like impostors
because they're just they're absent from representation in a lot
of these spaces, or they experience a lot of microaggressions
or just up just straight up aggression, racism, whatever when
they get to these positions. So that adds to this

(43:36):
feeling of feeling like oh shit, am I so am
I supposed to be here? And so it's like it's
very like multilayered, which is really interesting and like and
a lot of people sort of advocate for it rather
than saying, hey, what's wrong with you? Why you got
imposter syndrome? It's like, why aren't we dealing with the
environment that's creating these people who are like very unsure
about themselves too, because that's a lot of this is

(43:57):
a reflection of the environments that people are like existing
and yeah, for sure, I mean like that. And they
also point out like those who have actual jobs that
make sense and produce genuine value for society, like teachers, farmers, firefighters, cooks,
truck drivers, make significantly less money, work under more dangerous conditions,
and are generally not the people who are struggling with

(44:20):
imposter syndrome. You know, I don't know that, I know,
I know a bunch of teachers who have in posted
syndrome as well, who are like in front of but
like I don't also I know you, like they're like
idiot friends who will be up with until like three
in the morning. They're like, oh God, I gotta teach
like French tomorrow. Yeah. Yeah, and they're like, go, why
is anyone listening to me? Exactly. They're like they think

(44:42):
kind of like a responsible adults and an idiot. They're like,
I just bought a bunch of tickets to a kid's
Ninja Warrior event. Yeah. I mean, we recently talked about
like just this idea of like a lot of the
issues that we have attributed to, you know, different ills

(45:05):
coming like social media. We see a lot of stories
about social media, you know, caused people to be unhappy,
and the American workforce caused people to be unhappy. And
it's like I feel like it's all kind of part
of this modern just alt of like just you know
the condition where like existing inside a system that no

(45:30):
matter how much like you subscribe to like the Rise
and Grind and like I'm I'm on, you know, I
believe in the American dream type ship. Like there's a
part of you that can't be tricked. That might not
be conscious, it might not like be the part of
your brain that you even put language too, but like
you know it. And this article says about CEOs and

(45:54):
the marrow of their bones. They know their impostors too,
like when they're when they're like, yeah I should, I
should make like thousands times more money than like my
lowest level employee. You know, I'm definitely yeah, I'm definitely
five thousand times more important to the creation of this
car than the guy who puts the brakes on. Yah, yeah, exactly.

(46:17):
And like on social media, which I think we all
like kind of a lot a lot of us, I
would say, all I know, like some younger people who
have smartly just been like, oh yeah, I don't funk
with social media because so so toxic. But like you know,
social media, like you know, is making people unhappy and

(46:39):
the like, it's a gamable system that delivers no value
to the intended audience or the creator when you win.
Really you're competing to make the apps better at robbing
people of their free will. Like it's like I I
wish I was more online and some ways, and I

(47:00):
wish I was better at playing the game but because
it's it does have value. I've got friends who are
great comics who have found their audience through various social
media's and now people come out and see them live
and that, and they wouldn't have done otherwise, and that
makes me really happy for them. But there's upon me
that just bolts at all of that. Like I technically
have an Instagram. I post on it once every six

(47:22):
months or so when I remember to do it. I
used Twitter a lot more, and I wish I didn't.
But yeah, I love Twitter, but like it's I and
I think like part of what I like about Twitter
is it is the worst at marketing, Like it sucks
at marketing like that, I've never kicked on Twitter add

(47:43):
but like whereas Instagram, I like check Instagram once every
couple of weeks and like almost like the the only
online ads that have ever gotten me to make up
purchase are on Instagram. Like, Instagram is a very powerful
marketing tool. And I don't know, like the QBC, but
yeah it's and it's not the Facebook. And it's creepy

(48:05):
how much Facebook knows about you. It's just creepy how
much it has and how they can triangulate it's like, oh,
it's like this person likes this food and like this
kind of music. Guess what they're gonna like this cooking
product something yea. And even more more specifically, like this
person was stood next to these three people at these
three times, so that yeh wants to buy this hat.

(48:28):
Oh God. The whole thing is being fueled by like
the collective brilliance of a extremely under employed generation that is,
you know, smarter than any generation before. That's true of
like every new generation. And but like they you know,
all all the wealth is being hoarded by the older

(48:50):
generations and they're just you know, toiling away on these
social media projects that the wealth is being extracted to
like a handful of billionaires in a suburb of San Francisco.
And it's like that's it's not a justice system, which
in ton is ruining San Francisco right exactly. And it's

(49:12):
the whole you know, it's not that social media is
necessarily bad. It's not the people who feel like impostors
are impostors. It's that they are all feeling at some
level that they are, you know, the entire fabric of
the system they exist inside and strive to succeed in
is actually designed to make rich people and their kids

(49:34):
richer and keep other people from getting their money. And
like it's it's that simple, Like when you like more
and more, we're just seeing like, oh, that's it, Like
that's it all goes back to that, like they're affecting
the political system. And when you succeed, you realize that
probably more than you did when you were Like, we're

(49:55):
working your way up and if you've noticed the how
arbitrary and like pointless a lot of this ship is.
And I don't know. I I also feel like we've
like specifically with regards to social media, we've lost our
free will more and more because it is like brilliantly

(50:15):
designed to market to us and then in a little direction.
Yeah just yeah, and you know replace what whatever you're wants,
Like it does not want you to be satisfied. It
wants you to, you know, feel unsatisfied and feel like

(50:35):
you need to purchase something in order to like whether
that's in a broad sense of like a purchase buy
into a lifestyle. Uh, it's our whole like inside like
that I kept thinking when I was like thinking about
about this the past couple of days of that part
in Stranger Things where they like cut the kid open

(50:56):
and it's like cotton balls inside, because it's like a
rep blicka thing, and like, I don't know it. I
think that is a potent metaphor because we are like
filled with artificial like metaphysical circuitry at this point. It's
just all it's all been packed in there and it's
like circus peanuts in the inside. I feel like sometimes

(51:19):
like it's just it feels a bit like because it's
not just keeping you unsatisfied, it's keeping you constantly anxious.
And it rives me a bit of the way that
people who are addicted to cigarettes, Like cigarettes don't actually
make you calm, They just reduced the uncalmness of craving
a cigarette. That's what it like. You don't need the

(51:39):
cigarette doesn't calm you down. It just stops. It just
stops that tension and unpleasantness and anxiety you feel because
you have a craving finicotine. And then it's it's sated,
and it sort of does that same thing. It just
keeps you just on the edge of anxiety constantly, so
that it can then take away that anxiety from not
having this thing. But it's not actually bringing you joy

(52:02):
and calmness, it's just bringing you the absence of that
lack of calmness, right, And I think that's probably at
the end of the day, that's what so many people
are like grappling with, is trying to like reconcile this,
like what you're told is how the world works and
who deserves what and who gets what, And then you
experience and you're like, wait, this is so fucking weird.

(52:24):
Like I think of just how hard I've liked like
how to work, to to try and find better jobs,
to try and like be in spaces or like I
could feel like I could use all of my talents properly.
And then you get to some places and you really
you begin to question. You're like, why can't everyone fucking
just be happy? Like why can't they why aren't they

(52:46):
able to pursue what they want to do? And why
is everything so fucking finite and not that we have
to live in a utopia or if like if you
want to be in the n b A, you can
be in the NBA, but at least have the like
freedom to pursue these things, and like we look and
that sort of in turn kicks off a whole examination
of like your life's circumstances and things like that, and
you're like, wow, like if everything is so fucking arbitrary,

(53:09):
And because of that, it also feels like violence for
the people who aren't like somehow get a pull of
like a proper number in the cosmic lottery of like existing,
and then you're like, but then we're also sold this
thing of like, hey, everybody can experience happiness or whatever
or like have the living ways and things like that.
And then you look and you're like, that's not the
fucking case, So why the fund do I get it?

(53:31):
And I think that also sets off this other like
existential dilemma for some people too, as you look inward
and trying to like reckon all of these feelings, have
a reckoning with all these feelings. Yeah, yeah, I don't know.
The social media is specifically, it's just like you're taking
the sharp and spear point of capitalism and sticking it

(53:53):
in your brain. Like the capitalism has gotten very good
at marketing and social media. He is like all of
those things like brought together, and it's just constantly like
it is the most like the closest that humanity has
come to the singularity because it's just using all of

(54:14):
our collective like brilliance and like the movement of human
thought and you know, applying it to itself and using
that to just like rob us of our free will
and uh. And you can find me on Twitter at macti,
Instagram at Matt on discool cushion. But I was literally

(54:34):
about to end the show and ask you where people
can find you so guilt all this stuff. No, But
I think that's what's interesting, right, is that there are
there are many levels of people who I think are
just in touch with their own anxieties, right, Like Matt,
you know yourself well enough, you're like, I don't know, man,
Like I wish I could use Twitter like I see

(54:55):
other people use it. But for me personally, I'm just
You're you're wired in a way where like it doesn't
quite you know, you're not seeing the benefits that you
would from using it. In fact, I'll even do things
like I'll move it over a screen in my on
my phone. You know, you know, I've got I've got
social media wrapps in a folder, and I'll move onto
page four of that folder and then three days later

(55:18):
my thumb reflex has just adapted to just go like okay,
when I open Twitter and out, like I tap on
the folder and then it's just one to three yeah
swipes instead of just one swipe, and it's just it's that,
and it's just it just becomes like a new automatic.
It takes an extra two days to learn the new
automatic move. And I had the same thing too, where
I was feeling like I just a certain part of me.

(55:38):
I was like, this is like I when I was younger,
I was like, I'm just using this to like stunt
on people all the time. That was all I was
using it. So I'm like, watch me be in this place,
watch me be with these people. And I was like,
this is from my fucking ego and it's like the
most temporary fleeting ship. And I was like, this isn't
really giving me anything of substance, but I enjoy like
seeing other people do things. And I try and put

(56:01):
myself in the bracket of like a social media user
who like knows their own limits with how it can
affect them and tries to like healthily navigate that. Then
you have people who are completely off of it, and
I think you also have people who are completely immersed
in it and might not actually be seeing what it's
what's happening to them, because self awareness doesn't come easily
or cheaply, and a lot, especially not now, and especially

(56:22):
when you're in the you know, grips of the most
powerful marketing tool in the history of the human civilization.
Right that that makes self awareness pretty pretty hard to
come by, right, And that's why I think I try
and like find the positives in it, and like what
you're talking about, Matt, too is like connecting to people,

(56:42):
like being able to disseminate ideas that are positive and
things like that, versus I still I'm trying to get
better curating my Twitter as well, Like I'm trying to
sort of on follow or even block any and the
thing that isn't just someone who shares interesting stories or
someone who shares funny jokes. Like just like trying. I'm trying.
I'm not with limited success, but I'm trying to get

(57:05):
out of the kind of like so he said this,
and he said that, and like you say, and then
I'm going to dive in and just you know, don't
close someone to massage my ego just too, and then
they get angry and then like it's it's not a
healthy way to be, not at all. And I think
it's important to note to like, right, like you're gonna
we get so worked up by a fucking plastic rectangle
with glass on it, Yeah, we're not. If we put

(57:26):
that down, we can experience like more you know, substantive
deeper relationships with people and even strangers on the street.
But like we let's not get carried away. Well, I
mean I I tried. I high five strangers all the time.
A lot of times I get left hanging. But well,
I think at the end of the day, it's realizing
how much we're surrendering to like this, which which essentially

(57:47):
is a device too, I think is another was an
easier way for me to sort of contextualize what my
relationship is it is to this. It's like, oh, I'm
giving an outsized portion of my consciousness, my attention to
this like allusion that I have on my phone, when
I could be spending that time to just sort of
be more present and to be more mindful and things
that will help me, you know, actually navigate the chaos

(58:10):
of our world than feeling inadequate constantly or not having
the latest graphic jumper set. Yeah, I would just say
the only piece of media you really need is this podcast.
Thank you. That's don't worry about any anything else. You
just need to listen to us twice a day. And

(58:31):
uh yeah, and you're good, Matt. Truly a pleasure having
you on the daily zeitgeists. Where can people find you
and follow you? Well? Thanks? Yeah, it's being a joy.
Thanks for having me again. So yeah, like I said,
Twitter at Matt Kushion or Instagram, I wish I'm technically
on Matt Underscore Cushion. And then probably Science is my podcast.

(58:52):
We go through the weekend science news with comedians, so
probably Science on any all of the various podcast apps.
How you feeling the web? The web pictures and what
we're getting back from the web telescope. It's exciting. I
like it. Yeah, I mean it's it's pretty cool. There
was that worry that it might have been damaged a
bit more than they first thought by micro meteorites, but

(59:15):
looks like it's still giving some pretty amazing things. So yeah,
it's it's very cool. Is there a tweet or some
other work of social media you've been enjoying this is
uh yeah, this is this is so dumb. But this
is just a really stupid video. But it really made
me laugh. For this comic Matt Heighten, who does various
video he's just superimposed Riscie Sunach, who is one of

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the two people who may or may not be the
next British Prime Minister into an episode of Eastend as well.
He is doing a very bad job of pouring a
point on a public meeting. Great junket. It's a it's
really silly, it's really simple, and I love it. It's
it's Riscie Sunac, politician trying to do the thing where

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he goes meets the public and looks natural and for
some in Britain, by the way, this is just I
don't think they do this in America. It's just a
thing in Britain where politicians, you know, in American they
might go and like eat a sandwich in a cafe
or something like that, have a hot dog at the
exactly and one of the things they have to do
on that note if you're a British politician is stand
behind a pub and pull a pint. And that's just

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a thing. And Rishi Sunach, who, by the way, I
believe as teetotal and certainly looks out of place in
any kind of pub setting, but he chose this as
his place to do with the press. Junket is doing
an incredibly bad and slow job of pulling a pint,
and he's just inter cut it with the soap opera
EastEnders with people standing in a pub looking furious at him,
and and yeah, I'll give you the link. It's it's

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a delight, it's it's simple, it's stupid. It made me
laugh ound out. I always love those like cultural things
where like a politician like it's like you didn't fucking
kiss a baby, you didn't go to the fair to
eat a corn dog, you fucking commune, And I like you,
just like you didn't fucking pour a pint at the pub.
Yeah you did it. You did pour a pint, but

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you did it slowly. It's like a while, Miles, where
can people find you? What is the tweet you've been enjoying? Uh,
let's see. You can find me on Twitter and Instagram
at Miles of Gray. Check out the latest episode of
Miles and Jack Got Mad boost these Uh yeah, fantastic,
fantastic episode with Jasmine Watkins. Also check out if you

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like fiance, Well why don't you check it out with me?
On four twenty day fiance with Sophia Alexandra the let's
see a couple of tweets out Like first one just
feels so accurate to all the sneakers and sneaker heads
out there. Camp arm Eric at Eric J underscore D
tweeted Nike's current business model is Hey, remember the ship
your parents wouldn't buy you when you were twelve? Well

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here it is. We doubled the price, but you have
your own credit card now. Uh yeah, that's feels about
fucking accurate for me because I think as a kid,
when I whenever I wanted more than one pair of sneakers,
like a year, like for the school, your mom's like,
that's why you get a job, And that's why now
I have. That's how I justify all my sneakers. But

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I'm trying to try. I'm quitting. I'm quitting. Another one
is from at Molly Lambert. The Great Molly Lambert tweeted
A cool thing I do now is when the Internet
isn't loading fast enough, I say, come on, Jack to
it in the Joe Biden voice, and you know there's
nothing better hitting up with a good old Biden Jack.
How you open pdf? Jack? Was that the quote from them,
how do you Open pdf? Jack? And I was. You

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can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien and
on mad Boost these with Miles Gray. That shows really fun.
I have a lot of fun doing that show. Very stupid.
Go for the stupidity, stay for the fuego basketball take.
I just really like the shirts that go hard Twitter recently,

(01:03:00):
like one it was just a black shirt with white
writing that said Elvis is dead, Sinatra is dead, and
me I feel also not so good. Then there was
another one that was similar, designed single and ready to
get nervous around anyone I find attractive. You can find

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information that we talked about today's episode, as well as
a song that we think you might enjoy. A song
do we think people might enjoy? Oh man, I mean

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we were just talking about pet Sounds, right, one of
the fucking greatest albums of a well here, yeah, well
funk that we're actually gonna go out on this artist
called Not the Two's who I believe his rich what's
his real name? Something Maxie, And I don't want to
say the basketball there Tim Maxie. I know it was
a team Maxi, but I didn't want to go the

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wrong way to exactly because like I would forget you
can call Therese Maxie, Tim Maxim Maxie, I know. And
I was about to cat Tim Maxi Tyrese Maxi, but
he okay, So he started. He's a producer and collaborated
with Kendrick Lamorrow Mr Brown Big Steppers, and you've probably
heard exactly Unified in Grief and basically like a theme
throughout the entire album. He's he's about to put out

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some solo work under the name Not the Twos and
this track is called Paradise and if you you will
recognize the vocals very quickly. But he does it in
a very like his own way. He's like a multi
instrumentalist producer, and it's got this like kind of like
I get almost if if the Manson Family band had
like fucking swag, they might sound like this. Yeah, so yeah,

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check this out. This one's called Paradise by Not the
Twos had some much children ghosts in the in the
vocal arrangement and just like spooky drums the beaver. Anyway,
it's really it's a really dope track and I'm looking
very much forward to the rest of the work from
Not the Tubes. All right, Well, The Daily Zayke is
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