The Metaverse...SUCKS? Logan Paul Takes Expensivest L 1.07.22

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to eighteen, Episode
five of DI Dailies. Like Guy used to production of
My Heart Radio. This is a podcast where we take
a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. It's Friday, January seven,
which of course means that it is National bubble Head
Day and National temper a day. Can temper or fry

(00:22):
your bubbleheads and just really really do it up? Why
do you have a bubblehead? Miles? I have? The only
one I have is like uh Challa, like black Panther one. Yeah,
it's like I don't really I got it for free.
I'm not really into bubbleheads, but I get it, you know. Yeah.
I feel like, uh, Marie Condos show is anti bubble

(00:45):
heads propaganda? What do you mean? What if it brings
you joy? Though? I feel like there's a lot of
bubble heads out there that people are just like, oh, yeah,
I still have a bubblehead. But maybe maybe maybe they're
out there. I mean I feel like you either called
you either fun head you with bubble heads, or they're
an afterthought. Yeah. I don't think there's like a name.
But I don't know if someone's like casual with it

(01:06):
because people I know, like our Dodger fans who are like,
I have to get all the fucking bobble Heads this season,
or other people who are really into like a certain
niche like Animal Show. They're like, you know, like that
kind of stuff. Heyways, I am team bubble Head. I'm
team Tempuro. My name is Jack O'Brien a k. When

(01:26):
the zie has come and the trends are dark and
the zoom is the only let will see Jacoby, Jackoby.
Oh my names Jacoby. You can hear hear me on

(01:47):
those guys. That is courtesy of Paul gar Venta. Did
man he had this one out yesterday, didn't he do too?
He came so close to it for this like Blake
and then me, g man, that's my bad. That's on me.
I mean he should take that hanging right there for you,
that was coming right there. Didn't didn't pick it up

(02:11):
user error honorary. There you go. Well, I'm thrilled to
be joined as always by my co host, Mr Miles.
Yes it's Miles Gray a k d O NoHo straight
off blanker sham with the fake Nikes on. Good to
see everybody here to day. What a what a guest

(02:33):
we have. I'm just get the family relighted, double LP,
just so excited, double double well miles. Speaking of which,
we were throwed to be joined in our third seat
by a brilliant and talented podcast producer, E sports commentator.
Uh some fucking guy on Twitch DJ and music producer,

(02:55):
one half of the DJ production to a gladiator, one
of the super producers here at the Heart Podcast Network.
You've heard him on Fake Doctor's Real Friends. You've heard
him on this podcast where he used to be the
engineer and producer of this show. That superproducer justin assassinated
in order to take a spot. But he is back

(03:17):
from the dead to fuck your ship up. DJ Daniel
go man, wow, full regalia right there, Thank you so much.
That is that it? That is a full ass honor.
Yes it is I DJ Daniel a K A DJ
Underscore Daniel forgot to ask on Twitter for an a
K and here we are. I'm know happy to be here. Okay,

(03:37):
well you know a K Daniel h either of Okay, Yeah,
there it is, Daniel. You got more going on in
your zoom frame than I am comfortable with. It's understandable
he got us from full twitch mode he's using his
O b S camera to really give us this sick

(04:00):
layout game, the sick green screen game. Indeed, and Jack
and are just so distracted because we we're typically just
like at normal zoom screens, but usually it's someone's background,
but instead I have this a beautiful mountain range behind me.
Currently it'll soon change to a to a cloudy area
of some kind. It's just wouldn't and out starting to
sterious and spooky like that. Yeah, I finally figured out

(04:21):
that I could use my O b S virtual camera
to do zoom calls. And I have been waiting for
the appropriate opportunity, and here we are. I can't believe
I knew something about O b S before you. I
like kind of fox with my head. Yeah, I just,
you know what, never experimented with it, And now here
we are, and now I'm way too into it because
that's how he's inside of a TV that has been

(04:41):
abandoned on Hollywood Boulevard precisely thank you for some reason,
and this is a podcast, yeah, that we're describing, so
sorry to everyone. Yeah, yeah, I'm glad you thought that
this was an appropriate use of the technology. Yeah, yeah,
be surprised that either of you know what obs cameras are,

(05:03):
because I mean, I've known so long, but I don't know.
But why don't you just explain to the listeners. It's
open Broadcast software is a way that people, indeed and people,
uh you basically how people broadcast onto streaming platforms like Facebook, Twitch,
YouTube and stuff like that. And think of it like
a photoshop file that you can just layer stuff onto

(05:26):
but on you know, put on video, put on pictures,
put on whatever you want, and uh, with the help
of a handy green screen, you can do all sorts
of dumb ship and it's been great. M Thank you.
Speaking of dumb ship, you referred to meta as Facebook bro.
Come on, wait fucker, all right, justin we gotta cut
that cut that don't everybody will make fun of me

(05:47):
before we get to know you a little bit better, Miles.
Should we tell the people a couple of things we're
talking about today? Yeah, alright, we got some good news
on the pandemic front, because is too non shitty. American
doctors are developing a free vaccine. You know, my my
Facebook groups or meta groups have been telling me not

(06:10):
to trust American doctors, so this is news to me.
But Yeah, apparently they've been developing a free vaccine. The
world we're gonna talk about. I just wanted to take
a quick survey of the January six coverage from yesterday.
It seems like there was a lot of talk of division,

(06:30):
America more divided than ever, and so I just wanted to,
you know, get way in what. Yeah, yeah, I mean, guys,
we all just need to come together, right, we're a team.
We're gonna talk about metaverse. Uh, we're gonna talk about
is it Jake No, Logan Paul or for someone I

(06:52):
don't know, Man, Miles, You're gonna have to explain that
to me. It's just it's it's like it encapsulates everything
that's wrong with us right now, that Logan Paul paid
millions of dollars for Pokemon cards that ended up being
fake or are probably fake. So no, it's got it all.
It's got hyper consumerism, hype beast culture, fucking reckless spending.

(07:13):
You love to see it, all of that, plenty more.
But first, DJ Daniel, sir, what is something from your
search history that reveals something fucked up about you? Man?
Oh man, you want to hear something fucked up? Man?
I got a couple. I'll give you a quick one
than the longer one. First one is new computer sending
too many notifications. I recently got a new laptop and

(07:35):
for whatever reason, it's now sending me five five emails
anytime something on my calendar comes up, and it's not
from five independent locations, it's just alert Sparklet sky arriving.
It's like, yeah, why am I getting five emails about this?
And I definitely please how did that happen? What is
that scheduled in your calendar? Yes? I I got so.

(07:58):
You know, part of being in a relationship is that
we both need to know a little every little thing
about what's happening. And so h Stephanie and I have
a shared calendar. Yeah, exactly doing right now? That's I mean, honestly,
sometimes I think that's better. Stephanie and I have a
shared calendar, and the Sparklets guy is on it, as
is my stream and several other things, and any time

(08:18):
tracking software that tells you when the Sparklets guy arrives
right precisely, so I can run out there and go
thank you. Well, no, I remember, because Danny, You're tell
me you kept finding those Apple tags like in your
pockets and ship when you need the house. There's one. Yeah,
Stephanie kept hugging me goodbye and like really reaching into
my pockets. Clearly. I was like, what's this about? What
are you doing? Good? You good? I like how I

(08:42):
like to flex though too. New computer sending wait, freaking
new computer notified me that my bottled water delivery twenty
five dollar brand spanking new. I annoying me. Uh wait,
did you find the explanation? No? No, I kind of had. Well,

(09:04):
it's it's that it's that the calendar app on the
Apple defaults to sending you two notifications per thing. But
I don't understand where the other three emails are coming from,
and I'm actually still trying to figure that out. So
that's one thing, and it's annoying. The other thing that's
way more exciting is the James web Space telescope. And
apparently you guys have not talked about this on the
podcast yet, which excites me. So yeah, Well, because we

(09:25):
think that space acknowledging that astronomy isn't affront to Christ
our Lord, well that's completely understandable and hopefully with it,
what were you going to say that my perspective it's
is that it sounds like some nerd ship. But go
ahead tell us, well, it's definitely you're first of all,
you're both right, um, but the Space Telescope is basically

(09:46):
the new Hubble telescope. They just launched it in on Christmas,
actually Christmas this year, and uh, we're gonna go to
the TV and desk screen so I can show you
a picture. So this is the new James Web Telescope.
And for those who are obviously not watching right now,
of worse, because this is a podcast, imagine like a
hexagon of small mirrors that are on top of a

(10:08):
diamond shaped piece of tinfoil that's flying through space. And
this telescope is basically a hundred times more powerful than
the Hubble telescope. The more specifically it can pick up
stuff that is a hundred times more faint, so like
darker ship out in space, it can actually pick up.
It has made it into space, and over the past,

(10:29):
like you know, week, they have been reporting how each
stage of its basically unfurling has been going because it
didn't go into space looking like this, Like what what
you're seeing here is you know, it's completely you know,
in shape, but it went, yeah, deployed, thank you, that's
probably a better word for it. But each part has
been deploying over the past couple of days, and each

(10:49):
you know, deploying section has its own failure points that
could have basically made the whole thing moved. Like first
the actual the actual mirrors had to deploy, than the
secondary mirror where the actual light shoots into and then
shoots back into the censor had to deploy. There's a
heat radio that had to deploy that would have like
you know that better temperature controls the whole thing. And
each day they've been releasing updates as it's been you know,

(11:12):
unfurling and deploying, and it has almost completely deployed successfully.
We have this awesome new telescope in space. We're gonna
get our first images back in June. And just in
terms of like oh, now looking at something else, but
either way, it just no wrong button either way, just
in terms of like what we are going to get
in terms of the information from the telescope. I'm so excited,

(11:33):
Like it looks so fucking cool and we're just gonna
get you know, every crazy picture that we've seen from
the Earth, every really like wild picture that we've seen
from the Hubble telescope. We're going to get a hundred
times more crisp, clear things of the universe we've never
seen before, and that is very exciting to me. Is
notably mostly dark ship, so that we'll be able to

(11:56):
seek a little bit exactly much darker ship precisely. Yeah,
we're basically going from like dig Garrett type photography to
like eight K cameras quite literally, when you're like, bro,
you thought we thought we were looking at space truly
because even like the even like the infrared cameras that
I feel I've seen recently that have sent back images
that you're like, oh, this is this is truly like

(12:18):
the heavens. This is like these celestial bodies the things
that we're going to see with this. Yeah, I'm I'm
I'm I'm looking forward to it. So Daniel was showing
us on his screen like a picture, but it was
like small and shrunk down, and you know, just generally
a bad job by him showing displaying it. But then
I went to to look at it because I was like,

(12:39):
it can't look like ship like this, and it actually
does kind of look like ship, which I kind of
respect like it. It looks like something that would be
inside a computer, and they just like pulled apart out randomly,
which is kind of cool because there's not a lot
of like I feel like they usually take the time
to make technology look kind of cool, like and this

(13:00):
just looks like ship. But I love it. Yeah. Yeah,
it's just so it's it's it's deficient, you know, it's like, yeah,
this ain't getting Joe, We're not. This is gonna be
car and driver. It's a fucking space cares you wrap
your head around that. The tinfoil aspect of it is
very interesting to me. There's a there's a documentary phenomenon

(13:21):
that's about like alien UFO encounters that you know, it's
a bunch of interviews with like astronauts who encountered a
UFO or you know, just very like straightforward, trustworthy people
who are not like and then it told me that
I was a king from a past life, but like,
you know, people who And one of the people they

(13:43):
interview was somebody I think I think they were a
military official of some sort who was at who actually
witnessed what happened at ground zero, like the Roswell incident,
and one of One of the things they described was
a like three foot long piece of tinfoil that was
like you couldn't bend it with a hammer, and it

(14:06):
was light as a feather and like the strongest ship
that they've ever seen. And it was just basically a
piece of tinfoil that was unlike anything that exists on
the planet. So does make me wonder are we utilizing
technology that crashed on the planet. Okay, I thought you're

(14:29):
talking about the nineties six film Phenomenon with John Frovolta,
and yes, when your first time about that, I'm like, well,
because I do talk about that movie a lot. Yeah,
I mean, how did he become a genius with telekinetic powers?
It's because every time I have a headache, I'm like,
I think I have that tumor that makes you super smart?
And then I tasted it out by trying to do
a math problem and quickly disabused of the notion. Daniel,

(14:51):
what is something you think is overrated? Overrated? And this
is gonna be you know a little round it coming
from me, but food trends and their lasting effects throughout
the city of Los Angeles mainly, and I just think
all over the place. But overrated, because it would appear
in my experience that most food openings these days are
now either very nice restaurants or a singular purpose restaurant,

(15:12):
whether it's a new smash burger joint, a new hot
chicken joint, a new ramen place, a new donut place,
whatever it is, media media exactly, a new media spot.
It's either just this one thing or you have like
an opening like B. C. Clat or something where it's
a very very nice ass restaurant. And I'm hark, I'm
missing the days, the halcyon days of diners, Like I

(15:36):
miss a restaurant where you could go get breakfast, or
you could go get a burger, or you could go
get you know, just a litany of meals, where now
it just feels like every restaurant opening either has to
be one thing that you're absolutely nailing or a supernict
restaurant where they offer more than three things on the menu.
Because I feel like we're diners are like you know,

(15:57):
we saw do Pars vanished before. I is classic spot
I used to go to in the Valley all the time,
and Bob's Big Boy and to look like that ship
is still rocking or Burbank whatever. It's something boring there
that one still and I do like going there, but
it's weird when I go. I really only go from
I only I love a diner for breakfast, and I
want to open my heart to the diner possibly having

(16:19):
other things. But I don't know, And I think, but
but I think. You know, what they bring in is
with with your regulars. You know, people that are regulars like, oh,
I come here for my coffee. Oh I come here
for the burger. I come here just for breakfast. And
you get this, you know, you get a mismash or
a mix of mishmash whatever the world before is. You
get a bunch of people. You just get a diverse

(16:40):
group of people who are coming to a place to
eat a bunch of different things. Whereas the only people
who are going to a smash burger joint are you know,
burger nerds, like exactly precisely, and and you know they're
reluctant girlfriends like, isn't this the same spot you like, No,
it's no, it's different. These are sliders this time. This

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is in the back of like a store that was
in the back of a liquor store. We're in the
back of what used to be a salvation army precisely,
And you're saying the lasting effect being that it's just
changing the landscape or just changing the landscape of of
of like food opening. So it's like opening a restaurant

(17:22):
that that offers, you know, a bunch of a number
of things that aren't just the one hype food item.
Seems to be a riskier proposition that is only taken
on by restaurant groups and restaurant tours and big chefs
who are like I'm opening a French New Way restaurant.
I'm opening a you know, basque bask dessert restaurant exactly.
It's just like, you know, it feels I miss I

(17:45):
missed when a regular restaurant could open where a lot
of people love to cook a bunch of things. And
I feel like that now where the market is dat
is not where the market is precisely, I suppose you
not with TikTok and all that now, because I feel
like that's also having an effect on a lot of
like like what food culture is becoming, to the visuals
of food and like how we've went from like technique

(18:07):
to now like can you die within three bites of
eating this kind of food, like epic meal time looking stuff.
But I mean, look, it's all It's all a conversation. Man,
It's a cosmic gumbo, all right, Santa? Yeah, where all
the TikTok's about? How hard the the cheesecake factory at

(18:28):
the Grove keeps nailing it every time I go yelling it.
You know what I'm saying, Buffalo blast nailing. It's something
you think is underrated, underrated, And I'm almost sad that
super booster ANOHSTI is not here for me to hear
me say this. But F one Drive to Survive And
I also added a note here honestly, probably not underrated,
but I just started watching it, and it rules. That

(18:51):
show is amazing. If you have not started watching F
one Drive to Survive on Netflix, it does not matter
if you're a fan of racing or not. It is
the dopest show. And now I'm and now I'm deep
into F one. It's the battle. And the season just
ended too, and yeah, season season three just ended and
no no oh the last one season. Yes, the last

(19:13):
F one seasons contramired in controversy very much, so oh
my goodness, oh my gosh, but the show is the
show is just so well done. I also love how
they have such contempt for Netflix, Like while they're recording it,
they're like, Oh, it's you again. Okay, can you guys
get exactly can you guys get out of here? When
we're having a serious conversation. It's like, right, it's spectacular.

(19:33):
Shout out total wolf. Is there so a question I'm
hearing people in sports media talk about a lot is
whether the like whether this strategy that has worked so
well for F one of like doing a really you know,
it's something that HBO kind of did with hard Knocks,
or they would follow a team in the preseason, but

(19:54):
like doing that for the entirety of a season so
that you get not just like a single team's preseason,
but the entire season with all the players and all
the different Like is that there was a rumor going
around that they were going to do the same thing
to professional golf, and that did not sound very interesting

(20:16):
to me. Like, I mean, I feel like F one
is it worked for F one because it was a
underrated sport. It was a sport that was like very exciting,
very popular around the world and just hadn't really broken
through the way it should have in America. But I
feel like golf, you're not going to get me to
give a funk about if. I think that's the thing though, right,

(20:38):
Like golf is also clearly has enough of an audience
that it's in the you know, generating millions of dollars.
But I feel like with golf, like the joy the people,
the way people get into watching like the PGA Tours
because they golf themselves and they have a firsthand understanding
of like what they're seeing and how different like the
skill that it takes to be a professional golfer and

(20:59):
being like, oh man, how it's great. I don't know
if that translates like yeah, it maybe it can if
you can find a way for people to be like actually, like,
you know, every stroke matters. But I don't think the
cast of characters are as interesting as like Formula One,
where they can get people fully invested. Because I took
a Formula One. To me, it was like it's guys

(21:19):
in helmets driving in a circle. Yeah, and then that
was my that was my view. Then I zoomed in
through this show and I was like, oh, funk, okay,
it's it's got all kinds of fun ship going on. Yeah, yeah, again,
as I'll say, it's the embodiment of malignant global capitalism
very much frank about like what coming from the cars
emblazoned with Earth fucking companies and like human rights washing

(21:42):
races and like fucking Azerbaijan that it's it's definitely And
especially in season three, which which Stephanie and I are
halfway through right now, the way that they react to
COVID being like we just really want to get back
out there and race is all like, oh, y'all really
don't give a shit about ubernity or society or vary
or anything extremely insulated. But to your point about like,

(22:04):
uh it working for other sports, I think the fact
that it is so small that there are only twenty
drivers in the entire like sport of f one definitely
helps in terms of being able to concentrate on certain people,
Like you couldn't do this for basketball where you know,
or football or any team sport with a bunch of players.
To be a team, it would have to be a team. Yeah,
one team would be all the people you could you

(22:25):
could represent. But also and in comparing it to golf,
like you know, you're just you're right, like F one
is with for lack of better term, extremely high octane
like it's exciting. It is incredibly exciting when it gets
down to the actual like racing part of it. Whereas golf,
You're right, it would be kind of hard to get
me to give a shit about each stroke. So I

(22:46):
think F one definitely, Yeah, it fits into a very
very thin window of like not quite understood, but also
small enough to cover all of it. I'm gonna say
the n b A, if you could get buy in
from the fifteen best players in the league and you
were just following the fifteen best players in the league

(23:07):
and like their teams, and you know, usually one of
the fifteen best players in the league is going to
win the title, you know, I think that would actually
work pretty well. It would somehow make basketball and more popular. Yeah,
you know, and and you know they're they're all about
their global brands so very much. Just yeah, if they
have any eyes on, you know, not being beholden to

(23:29):
other countries with their you know, uh broadcast rights and
things like that, maybe you get a show out there.
They pull other people in, but they do it with
uh in the premier League. Amazon does a show called
All or Nothing, and this season they're following Arsenal, so
like all of the banter around, like the fans is like,
I can't wait to see that, like you know, we
have a great game or a ship game, or like

(23:51):
can't wait to see what this looks like behind the scenes,
because like they're in the locker room, they're in the
training that's like you see them eat. I think, and yeah,
it shows like that. I think I have to do
a good job of, you know, demystifying ship and getting
you to care. A Rugby one would probably be good
for the US interesting because that ship is ridiculous, super
athletic to watch, and it's adjacent enough to American football

(24:16):
that I think you'll be like, holy sh it, man,
what is this fucking ruggers? Yeah, I feel like the
NFL is probably like keeping that, like they're killing any
contract because they're like, oh, this is kind of like
a more fun version of ours. It's like an electric
car r exactly who killed the rugby drive to survive?
Who killed rugby sevens? All right, let's take a quick

(24:39):
break and we'll be right back. And we're back, and
all right, let's let's start off with some good news
for a change here. Good news. Yeah, some doctors decided

(25:00):
to develop a free vaccine. They've been developing it since
two thousand three, when Stars first hit the scene. I
have a quick question before you continue. All my vaccines
have been free, so why is this one more free?
That makes it free? Allow us to elaborate. So right
now you have Fiser and Maderna and Astra. Zeneca are
sort of like the Big Three Johnson and Johnson, who

(25:22):
have patents, and they're treating this like it's it's it's
intellectual property that they're unwilling to share with the rest
of I despite us being in a pandemic. They're saying, well,
you know, we would, but they don't have the capacity
to do it, even though those countries do manufacture some
of our other pharmaceutical drugs. But that's an afterthought. And

(25:42):
what these two doctors, Peter Hotez and Maria Lena Botazi
from the University of Baylor or I'm sorry, Baylor University.
They they're basically saying like, no, like we're trying to
Jonas sult this ship. God, here's a fucking vaccine family,
because I think more like every expert has been saying
one of the biggest issues we have with the pandemic

(26:04):
is that there's no fucking access or there's no ability
to widely vaccinate the rest of the world because these
companies are like, well, where's my fucking check at got it?
They developed nations have the money, But for the rest
of the world, like you know, low middle incombinations, it's
completely different. It. Sorry, your vaccines have been free on

(26:24):
the Daniel shut up, No, Jack, I got you the
platinum version. Okay, yeah, because he said, yeah that guy right,
Like that's so this wouldn't even you wouldn't have to
like subscribe for the next fifteen years for like access
to the vaccine. Okay, yeah, and yeah it sounds pretty cool.

(26:47):
Hell yeah, I wish I hadn't signed that contract, Miles.
You know what I'm saying, Hey, I'm telling you, in
the long run, in the long run, you're saving money.
You're saving money. Don't don't don't judge it now for
three years, wait seventeen, baby, then getting to me. Okay,
I'll be too rich by the will drag away. Perfect.

(27:08):
But yeah, this so this vaccus, our vaccine is called
Corba VACS and like you're saying, Jack, they started in
when Stars came out and then Stars went away, so
they're like, oh, no, need to really pursue this much
further because it's not presenting a health problem for the
countra for the world. Then once COVID popped back up,
because like they're they're starting off as a very similar viruses,

(27:29):
they're like, oh, ship, let's let's just dust this thing
off and see and if we can adapt it to COVID,
And with some tweaks. They began trying it, and there
is an unpublished study from India where it has been improved.
In India. They found that it was effective against the
original variant and then against delta, So they've got something here.

(27:50):
The one I think drawback is like they can't alter
it as quickly as an m R and a vaccine.
But again, long term here, if we're talking about like
getting something that can be widely distributed at a very
low cost, that should be the fucking emphasis here. And
it also feels like you could just somebody needs to
just focus on like creating an online or some some

(28:13):
sort of resource where people can just open source help
help with this ship and help put together the because
I mean, it's kind of crazy that this hasn't happened yet,
and like, hopefully this will give people something that's sort
of gravitate around as like, hey, we're we're going to
all just spend a lot of time trying to help

(28:34):
create the story of situation where we can update this
quickly because yeah, I mean I get I get that
it's it requires a ton of resources. But yeah, but luckily,
I mean they're talking a dollar to a dollar fifty
is a dose very very like you know, it doesn't
get much cheaper than that, according to them, which is

(28:55):
a great thing to hear. And also like when we
talk about the need, like why it's not just about well,
we need Americans vaccinated or we need to this part
vas is like no, because in the other parts of
the world, where the virus can just you know, go
from person to person, that's how these mutations start popping up.
And the quicker we can get as many people inoculated,
we can slow that down. Because you know, there's plenty

(29:17):
of headlines that are saying, like, you know, potentially there
will be a variant that is only the worst parts
of every single variant we've seen already, like the transmissibility
of omicron with like the lethality of delta then like
and then adding a new thing like immunity of evasion, Like,
that's the thing that is. That's I think that's the
thing that a lot of people lose sight of as

(29:38):
to why we need to slow this whole thing down
as quickly as possible, and why it's absolutely ridiculous for
companies like Fires or Maderna and the rest to just
insist that's like, well, where's the fucking money yet? Yeah,
it's like extra frustrating that the people who don't understand
that are than the ones who are, like, see, this
is never ending. Whenever a new strain like comes and

(30:00):
fucking ravages their community, it's like, yeah, motherfucker, that's we've
been trying to tell you anyway to get another shot. Yeah,
guess what, You're a life form on a fucking planet.
I'm sorry that you wear clothes and that makes you
think that you're not some biological organism here. But that's

(30:21):
the fucking the deal here, my man. Anyways, a huge
couple of months for Baylor, I just gotta say it.
I mean, first, and probably more importantly, sup producer Becca
getting hired on Daily Zeitgeist. Huge, she's a Baylor grash
And now now you know, lesser but still probably pretty significant.
Is this news so too too big? Big feathers in

(30:45):
their cap? Sick hum, she said, which I guess is
hook the oh I think get him sick. Yeah, I
don't think she might get him sick. That's what I
thought at first. That is uh the phrase You're supposed
to take your hand and cut your knee and then
you rip out the heart of your competitors and you

(31:06):
throw it to God. As it is a Baptist university.
So you go a sick compars wow, and there are
your opponent's heart is in your knee. No, that's how
you create the cup for your bare crawl, the metaphorical heart,
the heart of the vo the longhorn. And and thank

(31:30):
you for not getting I quickly changed the order, I said, university.
That could have been really embarrassing. Not not quick enough
for Becca not to have thrown her computer at the wall.
Think of the story to Lums from Baylor r G three,
Angela Kinsey from the office puppet Master Jeff Dunham. Yeah,

(31:55):
I mean Beck immediately turned off when you mentioned gains
Chip and Joanna you know Chip Do. Yeah, that's the
love story of the generation. That is why Magnolia has
now taken over Wake Up Texas. It is now it
should be called Magnolia Texas. Honestly, with anything they're doing

(32:18):
over there, it is true to his stomach wherever he is, uh,
definitely still alive, just saying uh, let's talk about let's
talk about speaking of sieges. Let's talk about the January
six coverage reactions. Just like, one overarching quibble I had

(32:44):
was that a lot of people were talking about how
America is more divided than ever, and just like really
like both sides and the ship with the rhetoric, even
though every time, like as they described what was happening,
it was all about you know, Republicans moving further and
further towards the side of the insurrectionists and that. But

(33:05):
then they would be like, We're more divided than ever.
There was a op ed by Jimmy Carter. It was
a guest column in the New York Times where you know,
at points he sounded like Robert Evans Circueen, like he
was America's teetering on the edge of a gaping abyss.
But then you know, when it comes to identifying the

(33:28):
problem there pointing to division, and you know, Carter calls
for Americans to come together, which like I get like that,
that's I get why that's a habit that they have,
but it is actually like offensive and like counterproductive and

(33:49):
incorrect to say that, you know, the problem is that
people need to come together with the side that is
you know, rapidly you know, hurtling towards just open authoritarianism
and what supremacy and fucking violent anti democratic values. Yeah.

(34:09):
I don't know. It just it's like, yeah, I mean,
I think that the media just suffers from the same
thing culturally that I think have exists in America, where
it's like it's hard to discuss the real ship, you
know what I mean, Like it's hard to just get
to it. It's like, oh, you know, they're having a
heart like you know something, Well, we will mitigate a
lot or try and describe something that's really bad as

(34:30):
something less than it is, just to make ourselves comfortable.
And I don't know, and this doesn't serve the purpose
of maintaining you know, whatever this frail like little republic
is here by saying stuff like oh, we're more divided
than ever, rather than saying these people are dragging us
into some other thing. And and and more importantly, the

(34:52):
govern the system of governance has failed people to the
point that they're down to hear fucking anything at this point.
And the the scourges of misinformation and the lack of
you know, serious confrontation around this, the spread of misinformation
is also adding to this. Like, but it's just easier
say like, we're we're so far apart. It's like, it's

(35:14):
not that, it's not that this solution is like, hey,
come here, Mitch McConnell. Ye bug you man, No, that's
what you have to say. No, man, they they're on
a fucking steady course to set all of the elections
up coming up to be easily reversed through their rat fuckory.
And that's what we're hurtling towards. And then the fallout

(35:34):
from that is going to create a situation in this
country that most people don't have the imagination for, right, Yeah,
we just can't can't imagine it. Yeah, But instead, but
I guess it's easier for everyone to sort of be like,
it's some dark of this, don't don't worry about what's
down there because we can't really picture it. But it's

(35:56):
you mean, like you know, like proud boys patrolling the
streets and the police letting them to act as like
a law enforcement group or at least turning their turning
a blind eye to their crimes because that's the state
we're in, or that the corruption is going to get
to a point where the things that you thought were
easily accessible or completely not the same anymore. There's just
so many little dimensions to this that I think, I

(36:19):
don't know that journalists would rather be like I don't
want to start, you know, speculating, but I'm really curious
to see how things play out if Republicans begin stealing
multiple elections and then that creates more conflict in the
streets leading to more violence and instability, Like what, what's
their version that they see that this isn't setting their

(36:39):
heads on fire? Well, Also the fact that we're seeing
so many more interactions in completely different areas between you know,
basically proud boys entering more spaces where they seem to
want to create conflict, like pta meetings, Like the fact
that we're seeing them being like, Okay, we need to
enter these other avenues of society to create conflict and
push our message is like another you know, a bell

(37:01):
ringing of like this. You know, we are facing these issues,
these divisions in places that are like way more than
just outside of government buildings and in the streets and stuff.
It's like they're trying to attack are the way we
teach children, and it's you know, the device, and this
is going even deeper and earlier, which is super troubling. Well,

(37:21):
the problem is just that those meetings have become too chaotic,
and we need to restore semblance of togetherness to those
PTA meetings. And the problem with o J and Nicole
Brown Simpsons marriage is that they were too far apart
and they just need to come together. What the funk

(37:42):
are you talking? O J? What no call it? We'll
call it what it is. And like even looking at
like the Proud there's a recent article about just how
the Proud Boys have completely shifted their strategy to sort
of normalize and enter American society. There's like a you know,
like a Fourth of July parade recently them were in
the Midwest where the Proud Boys had to float and

(38:02):
people like applauded them, and when they interviewed people they're like,
I've read their stuff. They just seem to be guys
who are here for like freedom. So you're already seeing
how like the the optics are changing with certain groups,
and how they're sort of ingratiating themselves with certain communities.
But on top of all that too, with the division,
you know that some people point to the factors like, well,

(38:23):
I mean, look at the polls. It says that six
of Americans think that, like, our system of voting is
like it's in peril. But then when you break it down,
you have Republicans and Democrats talking about the exact opposite thing.
It's not that are looking at going oh yeah, man,
we gotta sort this out, the jerrymanderings out of control
of the voters suppressing something else. It's that the Republicans

(38:47):
are like they steal them all through fraud, and and
Democrats are like, the rules are completely changing for people.
And that's I think another aspect that it's just it's
papered over in these discussions by just reducing like a
poll number to that rather than saying like, look, we
are rappid, like just everyone's experiencing many different realities, but

(39:09):
in arenas that need like consensus. Yeah. Biden's speech on Thursday,
I think, pete, some people were commending it for being
like forceful and like direct in the way that it
confronted who was at fault, but don't say their name. Overall,
the administrations handling of the aftermath has been, you know,

(39:30):
light on details and straight ahead explanations of what happened,
and like heavy on metaphors, like he said, the you know,
insurrectionists were holding a dagger at the throat of avery
democracy and it's just like all right, so what yeah,
what's the what's the solution? Dude? Hey, if somebody put
a dagger to the throat of some ship I gave
a funk about, I wouldn't just be like, huh, we

(39:53):
must not let them hold this dagger here. We will no,
we can no longer allow this daggery to happen. Just like, Yo,
where are the fucking repercussions? Because there's nothing, I don't think,
like you're saying. Since a year ago, we've seen nothing
in terms of new laws or regulations that are even

(40:17):
remotely meant to address this. It's just a lot of like, hey,
we got the guy with the helmet. Yeah, so that's cool,
and and like you're only going after the people that
like Google, Facebook, and like the telecoms companies are just
giving you the information to find them because they've already
they already have all the data to pin those people

(40:39):
to that place that day, and that's where like all
the energy is going into. Because I think that's another
part of America's issue is it's easier to go after
the easy, low hanging fruit than go for the actual
structural ship that caused the fruit to even fall to
the ground. You know, like it's whether it's like white
supremacy in this country or in a quality it's only

(41:01):
it's like the easy thing. It's never well, no, we
actually need to fundamentally change what minimum wages or what
working hours are, or what people are deserved, or what
our definition of a hate crime is. Yeah, it's it's
it's very frustrating, and I think the most people really
need to be doing, I don't know, prepare themselves to
understand that this is this is kind of like what
we're looking at, because it's not. It's I mean, you

(41:24):
have to be pretty disengaged to feel comfortable about the
future at the moment. Yeah, it's about to get way worse.
But but I don't know what what then do we know?
You know what, don't we know? I'm just a guy
in a big dog's T shirt. You are, in fact
got a big dog's T shirt. All right, let's take
a quick break and we'll be right back. And we're back,

(41:54):
and Logan Paul may have and this is this is
the ship that we need to be focused on. What
we're talking about, the details, getting into the details. We're
talking about the fact that Logan Paul may have wasted
millions of dollars on fake Pokemon cards. Hell Um, I

(42:17):
think most of people who listen to Show no who
Logan Paul is and Jake Paul and that whole you
know YouTube And if you don't turn off the podcast now, yeah,
because we don't want to know, you don't You don't
want to know. Also you don't want to know, and
per save yourself. But you know, I was saying that
I'm a fan, okay Inmite. All the bullshit, ignorance and

(42:38):
controversies and all that, it doesn't really matter because this
dude is balling his fuck and he likes to, you know,
because he can drop major coin on ship with these
ad revenue. Okay, he can buy cool stuff like a
Supreme dumpster okay, or maybe a fucking go Kart made
of elephant tusks. Okay, this is kind I don't know,

(42:59):
it just sounds like but honestly, I saw Supreme Dumpster
and I was like, yep, sounds right, and then yeah,
I was like, I can see that. I can see
someone be like the Supreme Dumpster. It just sounds to
me like you two and the Paul brothers are more
divided than you've ever been and need to come together.

(43:20):
We need to come together. And you know, he's now
been more you know, he's being more and more visible,
and he's his spending sprees are more visible to like
he's been really he's been posting a lot of Pokemon
card content, and recently he was stunting on people because
he said he spent three and a half million dollars
on a not just any kind of fucking you know,

(43:42):
uh collection of Pokemon cards. We're talking about a case
of six first edition base set Pokemon card booster boxes. Now,
I only used to collect sports cars and I used
to play magic gathering, so I'm not hating on card collecting,
but I know funk all about Pokemon cards. So Dan,
is that sick because this thing that he said he

(44:02):
claims to buy is that important to Pokemon I mean important, No,
I mean you know, but but yes, of course coveted, highly,
extremely coveted in the Pokemon community right now. And for
some reason, I'm not even quite sure why because and
I know there's some like there's definitely a path from
like YouTube, you know, when people used to share their

(44:23):
shopping spreeze and stuff like that, like here's what I
bought today and blah blah blah. I know there's a
line from that to Pokemon cards. But the fact that
they are just whole you know, twitch channels, YouTube streams,
meta streams that are dedicated to people having a camera
that's just on their hands as they open Pokemon cards
is like the ship right now. And I truly do
not understand it. But yes, having a base set of

(44:45):
o G first edition booster packs is wild, Like that
is the rarest of the rare, so we can all
so we know this is the rarest of the rare, right,
rarefied air, So sorry, can I just stop on the
that's a that's a genre of videos. Now, just have
camera in hand open it's I mean like like muck bong,

(45:08):
like buying spreeze receipt like you know, rundowns all of
that stuff. I feel like falls into the same category
of voyeurism where it's like seeing people consuming consumer voyeurism. Yeah,
where it's just like you know, people want to see
people buy an open ship because it used to be
just unboxing like that was sort of the beginning where
unboxing or just it was just like ship that like
you're like, oh, ship, that's the new this or that.

(45:30):
But now it's like sort of like look at all
this ship I bought and people like mouth a gape.
Like I used to get depressed when I saw people
eating by themselves in restaurants for some reason, like that
just made me sad to see them eating by themselves.
And the world has gone so far beyond that to
the point that I like, no longer that doesn't even

(45:53):
register at all on my like the depressed the how
depressing it is to just picture imagine someone sitting there
on YouTube just be like, oh sick, they just got
a good card watching with like dead eyes. Yeah, a
real bummer to me. Well, look, we're all we're all
finding our ways to be comfortable. Okay, the world is

(46:14):
a vampire. By the way, I love eating by myself
in a restaurant, So I'm not shamed that anybody. That
was just yea, and he watched his old clips of
him playing basketball in junior high. So I don't know, bro,
if I had them, I probably would. Um He's like, yeah, man,
I could have been a blue chip kid. But it's

(46:37):
like two seconds right here, look at that move. Look
at that that pivot. I know I don't have the ball, yeah,
but and I down. Oh my god, you must have
clicked on the Apple logo and scrolled to shut down
the way I closed that guy out kind of take
that fucking jump shot, all right, so it wos out.
Look at that. Um So a lot of people who

(47:01):
are in the Pokemon cards too, were like, I don't know, man,
this guy got one of the most like rare things
you could get in the fucking game. And and then
we're like, okay, what about the provenance? Right, so what happened?
Where is this from? And a lot of things people
were pointing to a few things that were like They're like,
I'm dubious because of the following spent three and a
half million dollars on eBay. He bought it on eBay,
not South Bees, not Christie's. Like we're typically you see,

(47:25):
like it doesn't matter how you know, Niche. The thing is,
when we're talking about millions of dollars, those are typically
the auction like venus or houses where those things are bought,
not on fucking eBay. So that was the first thing
people were like, what the fuck. The second is like
just sort of the math, right, one of these packs
can sell between seven and twelve thousand dollars, maybe fifteen

(47:46):
thousand dollars, and inside this box he had were two
hundred sixteen packs. The person who first sold who first
put this box on the market, is a guy called
number one pokemon Master on eBay. That's not a red flag.
He sold it for seventy two grand, and then that
person sold it for two point seven million, and then

(48:07):
Jake Paul bought it off this person for three point five.
Now I don't know if it's money laundering or whatever,
but whatever the funk it is. But the second thing
is that the person number one Pokemon Master like the
provenance of the of the this box that he says
he has, like the origin of it. How did he
come to obtain it is also murky. First it was like, oh,
I got it from an old person who was like

(48:28):
getting rid of stuff. Then it was like I got
it origin story, like I got it like I got
it from an old guy in a little story in
uh yeah, in the state sale. Then it was my
twelfth birthday, and that turned into I found it in
an abandoned attict. Then peoplere like, Okay, that's fucking weird.

(48:48):
Then people were looking at the facts, like the bar
code doesn't actually match what the actual product is if
you really zoom in. Secondly, a box that that's old,
that's made by Wizards of West Coast, the company that
made the cards, it would have faded like all the
other like the stock from then that's like you see
now it has like a certain patina to it. It's faded,
and this didn't have it, which led a lot of

(49:09):
people to be like, yo, this is fucking trash. And
so now he's like trying to go Logan Paul is
like I'm flying to Chicago to figure out what what
the deal is because these were authenticated. But all of
this kind of reminds me of just like it's the
exact same ship that happens in the art world. I
don't know if you saw that series on Netflix called
Made You Look about the massive art fraud that happened
in New York where this galleris was selling like roth

(49:31):
Co's and fucking who's my splatter paint guy, Paul Yeah,
Jackson Pollock, like like American abstract expressionist art, where this
woman was just coming into this gallery and being like, yeah, man,
this thing that would sell for normally for like five million,
I'll get it to you for like six thousand, and
this gallery was buying it, and and they were being

(49:52):
like considered the real deal, when in fact many of
these pieces were fake. And it's sort of like this
whole momentum that people in this world, which is You're
so fixated on the idea that I'm going to have
the fucking thing that no one else has, that that
gets weaponized and turned against you when you're like, but
you know all the other things, you're not considering the

(50:14):
problem once the fucking the act, the fact that like
they're not even gonna make you let you look at
the cards to make sure what you're buying is real.
Very similar energy you want a roth call, I'll get
you Rothko Yeah, closet, Yeah, I got a couple of Rothko's. Yeah.
I mean this is all part of capitalism and consumerism,

(50:37):
just like breaking down, like it's part of it feels
like it's of a family with like n f T
s and REP sneakers that are exactly the same as
the non rep like the actual sneakers, and it's just
like this ship has completely ceased making sense, like the Yeah,

(50:58):
it's just all telling stories to each other. But yeah,
like consumer cultures, like in this weird bubble now where
it's like, yeah, man, this fucking picture of on your
computer screens worth fucking millions, Right, You're like what the
fund is? What is the value of anything anymore? And
I think that's what's really interesting because even like you're

(51:19):
saying with like clearly people are making fake Pokemon cards
because they're like fuck it, what's they don't give Like
people think it's the real deal, don't like what the
fun saying with sneakers and like luxury items, like what
is the value anymore? Is it the fact that you
paid three and a half million dollars for it? Is
it that you like the cards? Themselves the way they

(51:39):
look or is it like you know, like most people,
it's just to say, you know, I got it because
I have this ship. We're killing the world by refusing
to make a vaccine free to them so that these
multibillion dollar American companies can continue to make billions and
millions of dollars. And then with those billions of dollars,

(52:00):
we're just basically like making various forms of money laundering
a growth industry. That's what we've done with it as
a nation is we're just fucking putting it in things
that used to be considered money laundering and are now
considered like tell something and also just as like a
side note from like the from the purpose and how

(52:22):
it's actually you know used these days, like we have
developed technology to the point where the actual physical cards
like don't matter anymore if you're trying to do with
them what they're used for, which is played the trading
card game. Right there's they're there are all sorts of
apps you can play digitally online. Owning the card doesn't
matter anymore. So like the fact that the entire market
is basically based strictly around the trading and the rarity

(52:44):
of them is just like it has very lost the plot,
kind of kind of ship just contributing another small note here, Yeah,
who ship the thirties are going to be sick, dude.
See is that we're out in exactly This ain't stopping, y'all.
That's what history has told me. Oh yeah, yeah, this

(53:05):
is I mean, it's just gonna It does feel like
everything is kind of consolidating in the ways that it's
just going rotten and the fruit is falling off the
tree like all over the place. It does feel like
something's coming to an end. But yeah, I will admit
to lacking the imagination for what comes next. I don't

(53:25):
think it's going to be what post apocalyptic movies tell us.
That's I think, in some ways wishful thinking. But like,
I mean, you just you can look at other countries
that are sort of further along in their path of
rampant inequality and what happens when it just truly turns
into haves and have not. I think that's that's the
more immediate example you get, like, oh, it's functioning, but

(53:45):
it's also very grim when you're on the ground, and
I don't know, I mean, and also part of me
also things like I think we're like, also, it's it's
like we're experiencing the twenties and the depression simultaneously, right,
you know what I mean, Like both things are happening simultaneously.
And I think that's what's also kind of surreal because
of the rampant inequalities that Yeah, there's a group here

(54:07):
that's spending three and a half million dollars on fucking
paper squares and then people who are buying like diabetic
test strips like off the fucking you know, someone who's
just like hustling them because even the most basic medical
like net necessities are are completely out of reach for people. Yeah. Well,

(54:28):
one possibility for where we're aheaded in the future is
into the metavers. Let's go quick. There's so CS just
kind of happening quotes because it was mostly shut down
because of the pandemic, but they a lot of tech
was debuted and a at least France twenty four, which

(54:52):
is a website I implicitly trust, uh, France twenty four
dot com says that like CS won the show, sorry
that the metaverse won the show one c yes this year,
and you know, our writer Jam was pointing out there's
this clip going viral right now of somebody. It's supposed

(55:14):
to be like, so this person, Homo digitalist tweeted, Uh,
this is how Walmart envisions shopping in the metaverse, thoughts.
And it's a video. It's actually a four year old
video like VR display from an south By thing revealed
in an effort to impress influencers at south By. But

(55:37):
that does illustrate like how lamb and unoriginal the entire
meta project is that like the thing that they are
being like, look at this crazy like new world that
we're entering is like things that have been revealed repeatedly

(55:57):
for the past, you know, to decades, three decades. I
mean the nineties were doing all kinds. We were all
in on VR, picked up and dropped like people like
they I've talked before about Michael Crichton's Disclosure novel in
which they're all about VR and they're like they have
like this thing where they're trying to steal a file

(56:18):
from someone's computer, and like the way that they do
it is they go put a VR set on and
like walk down the hallway and like open pick up
a physical file with their hand and then like walk
back down and like there's another person in the computer
like in a in this V with this VR headset on.
It's very stupid, but if you do watch this uh

(56:40):
Walmart video, it's basically that, but done for online shopping.
Like you have to pick up with your VR glove,
like a carton of milk and then like put it
into your cart. Rather than just click on a fun
rock it, you have to pick it up off the floor. Yeah. Yeah,
that's the amazing part is that? So like to show

(57:03):
like how connected everything is, the person picks up a
gallon of milk, puts it in their cart, and then
this disembodied like Walmart assistant who floats in front of
you eerily is like you had like you are connective.
Fridge is telling us you already have a gallon of milk.
You want to put it back more than normal? Get

(57:25):
out of my face, yeah milk. She's like, do you
want to put it back? Then just put it back
on the shelf. And so the person then has to
reach into the thing pick it up, but then they
like drop it and then they like pick it up again,
and they left that in there. I guess to make
it like I don't I don't know why to be fair, though,
that's four years old. Man, the technologies come those gloves,

(57:46):
they have better grip now, way far less likely to
drop the milk now, So it seems absurd, And yet
the Oculus app was the most downloaded app in the
Apple Store over the holidays. Meta hosted several big virtual
concerts in the past couple of weeks. Granted they did
not go well. The biggest crowd was less than a

(58:07):
million people, and a Fortnite concert hosted last year had
tens of millions of people there. So it's like, not
it doesn't seem like it's taking off, probably the way
that Mark Zuckerberg had imagined. But it does feel like,
in connection with the previous thing that we were talking about,
where we don't really have anywhere to go because everything's

(58:29):
breaking about our current like reality. Rather than like coming
up with solutions to build a new future and a
new organization for our society, we might just spend like
a couple of decades, like going into some virtual reality
thing would be one possibility that would be very depressing.

(58:52):
I mean, yeah, it sounds like most of the focus
is on of like running away from ship. Yeah, you know,
in confront it's everything all that see around me is
running away from ship and not confronting ship. And I
guess because confronting ship is too disruptive. Where if you
run away, now you're like, I don't know, I'm creating
a whole new thing, fucking metaverse trying to disrupt the reality. Yeah,

(59:13):
that's like, that's the new tech innovation is disrupting life
as we know it. And the other thing, too, is
what those facebol meadow what fucking Facebook concerts was that
the video is not like there wasn't anything three dimensional
about It's just like you put a headset on to
watch a fucking two dimensional video. Imagine if you will, Miles,

(59:34):
you're watching one of those Pokemon card opening videos, but
you actually it's so much realer because while it's still
a two dimensional screen, you can look to your side
and see other people are watching it and hear them
heavily breathing into the microphore. You can look to the
side and see the edges of what they've rendered exact
field of you, and you're like, what the fuss this
hard black line force. Yeah, there's also the matter that

(59:57):
people are being like groped and you know, assaulted like again,
like the with the thing of like putting the milk
back onto the shelf rather than just being like, oh,
just remove from cart by clicking this one button. Like
take that problem and expand it to dealing with online
harassment and online like bullying and online racism and online

(01:00:21):
like everything. It's just like there. It makes it that
much harder to ever monitor police like any of those things.
It's just going to be and there's no record now
because it's like all happening in real time exactly. I
was gonna say, as as as your local guy who
has been fighting for VR for a few years now,

(01:00:42):
you could go back to old recap episodes of tv Z.
At the end of the year, I'm like underrated VR.
I think I literally said it two years in a row.
My favorite you do hang out with Mark Zuckerberg all
I mean, like you know I'm gonna talk about right
now anyway, Uh, just one of my favorite games to
play in V are Offers. Before you get into it,
it's just this open lobby where everybody who's playing the game,

(01:01:04):
and that lobby is just kind of hanging out and
floating around the three D space. And the number one
problem that that game had was harassment and small children
screaming into their microphones when you didn't have the option
to mute every single person in the lobby or make
yourself invisible or anything. Like. Everything that happened was racism,
people grabbing your face and humping you with their robot bodies,

(01:01:27):
and every possible troll thing that you could possibly imagine
in this very very tiny VR game that maybe had
three thousand people that were playing it at a time,
Like trying to extrapolate that to millions of people is
going is just it is. It is truly disaster waiting
to happen. And anybody who's been using VR for more

(01:01:47):
than ten minutes could have told you that. I just
like Beat Saber. Beat Saber is great. What a great
game that you played by yourself. Yeah, yeah, exactly, Like
I see the benefits VR in gaming and like emergency yeah,
and like immersive like film watching, Like I'm totally down
to like be like whoa ship like this is this
is great, But yeah, beyond that, it's just weird. It's

(01:02:11):
like they keep trying to force this thing like no, man,
VR is gonna change the way you work. I'm like,
what motherfucker's don't like to work write the fun is
VR now no, so stop, Like that's not the solution.
The thing that they've you know, that Facebook and social
media is allowed is for you know, these massive corporations
to enter into our daily lives and how we communicate

(01:02:34):
and like view ourselves and portray ourselves to others. It's
like the most basic human things. And this just takes
the very last shred of that, like our ability to
like walk away from it, and makes it so that
you are like inside an actual world that they created.
Like it makes sense as the next thing that they

(01:02:55):
want to do. It just seems like it will be
horrible for every one. Yeah, and like to your point
about like all the issues that already exist on Facebook,
fuck the VR aspect, and then you want to now
put all these people in there and like the explanations,
like I mean, it's really hard to monitor this stuff

(01:03:15):
in real time. It's like then it shouldn't be, Like,
then you're fucking up by creating an environment for this
to happen, because if you already can't handle the rampant
misinformation on your platform, and you're just gonna be like
I don't know, then it or yeah or in my mind,
like don't you just have can't you just create enough

(01:03:36):
like robust server like infrastructure where you can be like
I know exactly what happened in there because I got
the whole ship. It happened in this software, like I
can record what the and I don't need fucking the
whole thing itself is snitching on you the second you
enter this ship, because they will have that, but they

(01:03:56):
won't put that technology towards anything that would make it
like their responsibility to police and monitor it. Like in
the same way that you know Facebook, you can still
go and look at like racist, hateful abuse of comments
that somebody left on Instagram account, and you know that

(01:04:16):
Facebook didn't do shit about, but they certainly like will
pay attention to anything that has said that might make
it easier to serve you an ad that is going
to be effective. M Like that's yeah, it's we really
really can't make this want to happen from the virtual
clan rally in Okay, what for what what is this now?

(01:04:41):
Like what's the what's the purpose of it all? But yeah, again,
it's like one of those things like we all been
trying this since the nineties. I look, I saw the
movie Virtuosity too, with Russell Crowe and Denzel Washington. I thought, hey,
that ship might be cool, but we're not. That's not
what this is. And it's just and I guess I
don't know, like, is it is it that we need
like a like a huge leap forward in technology for

(01:05:03):
people to be like, oh, ship, Like I'm looking at
someone's face, I could feel the wind on my ship.
I can feel the temperature like it's that immersive. I
don't think. I think that's the thing that most people like,
if we're gonna enter some like Wally Dystopia matrix type ship,
it's that this new form of quote unquote reality is
such that it's it's engaging all of your senses. Yeah,

(01:05:25):
I mean that's just dangerous. The technology is already like
pretty cool. It's just I feel like in the wrong hands.
I guess, like we're we're gonna be fucked. Yeah, because yeah,
I like the big thing is that like you can
only walk around on like a rug sized piece of space.

(01:05:46):
But I'm sure they're going to solve that in the
not too distant future. But they've got those like those
like multi directional treadmills. Democrat right, like making those more achievable, Right,
I do kind of want to try that. That does
look fun. It looks like the way that that's going
to happen probably is that like Facebook, right, you know,

(01:06:07):
has the money to invest in making cheap ones of those,
so that it makes the metaverse so cool that you
then are interested in going in there. And then they
have like fully captured you as a person. They're like, hey,
hop in your omn tread, put on your goggles and gloves,
and come to the metaverse. You like a yoga matt

(01:06:31):
sized thing, and it's just like, oh, ship that man,
I'm gonna start some still drugs in the metaverse. There
you go. They will be the only violation that they
tracked drug sales and speaking out against the government of
your country. Well, Daniel, such a preasure having you as

(01:06:51):
always your hell of a guy. Where can where can
people find you and follow you? You can find me
at all the places Instagram, Twitter, TikTok, Twitch, DJ Underscore,
Daniel d A n L and I go live on
Twitch Wednesdays, Fridays and Sundays. You can find me on

(01:07:14):
the internets, all right, And is there a tweet or
some of the work of social media. You've been enjoying.
I got a couple. I'll hit you. Hit you with
my first one, which is probably something you guys talked
about yesterday, but get friends of the show guests the show,
David or Jason Pargeon. Responding to Elmo's tweet of has
anyone ever seen a rock eat a cookie? Elmo is
just curious, Jason Pargeon writes, man, I just have no

(01:07:36):
idea what people are fucking talking about anymore. And I love,
absolutely love that. And then the other one in the
spirit of six of the six word stories, this one
only needed five from at raptor Breath first Sale Balls
never tazard on that one. There you go, Miles Where

(01:07:57):
can people find you with a tweet? You've been enjoying
Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray and if you
like ninety fiance, oh, then come home by to check
out four twenty day Fiance with Sofia Alexandra. It's ship
goes up, It's stuck. Let's see. There's a few things.
Few tweets I like. First one is from Carter Handley

(01:08:19):
at Carter Handley tweeted, you should be able to go
into the cockpit of the plane if you have something
really cool to show them. Yeah, I agreed. The next
one from Danielle Wiseberg at Danielle Wiseberg tweeted, I don't
know what you guys are talking about. The American school
system is perfect. I have no financial literacy, but I
do know how to square dance, which felt that in

(01:08:42):
my terrible, financially illiterate heart. And finally, at furtive on Anist,
Dana Cassidy tweeted a screen cap of like Google Translate
and it says, she says, are you fucking kidding me?
And it's the English is fucking in the kitchen and
the Dutch translation is nucin into kukin and the whole thread.

(01:09:11):
It's just like people putting in like nasty dirty talk
and translating it to Dutch. And it's great because like
the languages are like to your ear. It can like
if you've been into the like the Netherlands, like something.
I remember your highest fucking Amsterdam, thinking I'm not understanding
these people speak English, but they were speaking Dutch and
there's no says spank me Daddy translates to geet me

(01:09:32):
in clap papa. Oh. I just love I just love
the beauty of languages, So shout out all the Dutch listeners,
so I know you're out there. The nucan and the
kukin was was mine. But a little, uh, little little
background is that we've talked about before, but the square
dancing tradition is a tool of wit supremacy that being

(01:09:54):
taught in public schools was they turned up round kid
into a financially illiterate square dancer. I designed perfect perfect.
Oh uh, it's about tweeted the news and saying flerona
isn't a new thing, It's just the fluent corona. You

(01:10:14):
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(01:10:36):
well as a song that we think you might enjoy it.
Min what song do you think people might enjoy it?
Twit day? Oh man, you know I love a remix
and I love to stay clean, so I love using
soap take stay Clean. And if I was gonna remix so,
I'd want to do it as a Gladiator, perhaps the
Gladiator remix of the track. So but by none other

(01:11:01):
than our guest today, DJ Daniel, for people who Daniel
is a very talented musician, and we always talk about
music I'm getting. But you know what, I would be
wrong to not tell y'all to go check out DJ
Daniel's work. He's verified, verified on Spotify. Okay, be in
a powerful duo called Gladiator. So we're going out on
the soap Gladiator remix. Get it in, get it in

(01:11:24):
there we go. Alright, Well, I can't. Usually it's implied
that I co signed Miles recommendations. I cannot co sign
this one. Not a fan. Just kid out. Gladiator is awesome.
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