The NRA Is Racist, Don Jr. Needs Cash 6.4.21

In episode 923, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian and Bitchuation Room host Francesca Fiorentini to discuss Biden's new strategy in Senate, the Trump's joining cameo, the truth behind the constitutional right to bare arms, athletes' mental health, and more!

FOOTNOTES:

1. Biden tries new strategy with moderates as frustration grows
2. Sinema on why she skipped vote on Jan. 6 commission: 'I had a personal family matter'
3. Donald Trump Jr. joins Cameo
4. Was the Constitutional Right to Bear Arms Designed to Protect Slavery?
5. Naomi Osaka's withdrawal throws athletes' mental health into sports spotlight
6. LISTEN: The Gap Band - Outstanding

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season one, eighties seven,
Episode four up to Daily SI Guys to production by
Heart Radio. This is a podcast where you take a
deep dive into Americans share conscience. Says it is Friday,
June four. My name is Jack O'Brien aka I'm California
Pizza Kitchen Man. I hope you folks enjoy the food

(00:26):
bom bom bomp bomb that is courtesy of Cult Brew,
Kenny and the Beatles. Yeah, that's my and my favorite superhero,
the California Pizza Kitchen Man who was bit by radioactive
California Pizza Kitchen. Shout out to Caitlyn Durante uh and
I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co host,

(00:47):
Mr Miles Grag. You don't start season one, night seven
of the motherfucking pot the seasons not from where you
when you cut that murder charge, but anyway, Shout out
to mean scientists on Twitter for that. It's a wonderful.
It's deep cover inspired a k It's beautiful and we

(01:10):
got it on just under the wire. This is the
season finale. That was a good song, was a good song,
underrated Miles. We are thrilled to be joined in our
third seat once again by a correspondent, a stand up
comedian who you know as the host and head writer
of the series News Broke, the MSNBC special Red White,

(01:32):
and who correspondent on That Geo's Explorer, and as a
regular commentator on Young Turk's network, Thebituation Room podcast. She's
been on Love It or Leave It, and it's just
a very funny comedian Francesco. Yeah, you don't interrupt my
my intro, Miles, And this is part two of a

(01:57):
Francesco Fiorentini. Hi, Hi, Francesco Fiorentini. Francisco Fiorentini. How are you?
Oh'm good? Yeah, this is a little bit of a
part two because my fiance was on yesterday Matt Le
Matt Leave, and I know he told a lot of
just just put out all the dirty laundry, yeah, of

(02:17):
our perfect engagement. And I'm not going to go back
and choreographic re choreographic correctly and hire a photographer. So
I'm gonna need some reshoots, a little extra budget for
the reshoots on this one. Um, this time you're gonna
ask that he not proposed to you with a blue

(02:39):
raspberry ring. Pop is that correct. I really wish he
had it because it would have been far less expensive.
He sounded so stressed. Yes, O, man, I gotta, I
gotta figure out what to do with this thing. Here's
the thing when you buy a ring. First of all,
don't consult sex in the city, because I know he
did that like fifteen years later. And then number two,

(03:04):
don't ask my brother. Don't ask the only man you
know of my fa like my brother wraps Christmas gifts
in newspaper still like at the age of thirty six,
you're heard forties forty now, like this is the kind
of like he was like, oh, so you know you
imagine the jeweler, imagine the jeweler just like the door

(03:27):
opens and you see matt Leeb's face just like all
dumb and in love, and you're just like, yes, buddy,
did your brother at least wrap it in the comics
section of course tasteful? It's not like, yeah, it's like
the international news, you know, like drought. And I remember

(03:48):
like one of the first birthdays where my like you know,
because of heteronormous, my mom was wrapping the gifts when
I'll go to a birthday party, like you know, like Okay,
take your gift. This is the gift for the party. Yeah,
where my mom was out of town once and my
dad had to wrap a gift and he did in
the in the Funnies, you know, the comics, the newspaper,
and I was so bummed out. This looks like drash, Dad,

(04:09):
this is newspaper. He's like, it's the Funnies. Man. At
least it's not the Auto Trading section or whatever. And
I was Look, I was just so mortified at like
seven years old, pulling up to Pistol PiZZ pizza place
with this jankie as gift. But anyway, was it for
a child? Yeah? He was for another kid. Oh I
see you man, it was for Pistol Pete Marivitch. I
thought you were. It was like it was like a

(04:32):
Chucky cheese type place. We had a Pistol PiZZ Yeah.
Where did you grow up, Arkansas? Like, oh yeah, that's
yeah my favorite Sivalley shotgun show because that sounds like okay, okay,
l A has been Eli's a mess. Okay in a
place that was a kid's restaurant in the early nineties,

(04:55):
you know, I wasn't expecting anything remotely close to relevant
or culture be sensitive. I I really want kids to
understand the kinds of birthday parties and the plate the
jan Kee ass places that we had our birthday parties,
you know, like Rocky and bowl Winkles with like the
animatronic like like how scary and haunting get like somehow

(05:16):
we loved it. At least that's I love Rocky and
Bowli Winkles. Um wait, where Where's Where's Rocky and Bull?
It was up in the Bay Bay area and it
doesn't exist anymore. I don't know. I think some of
them got canceled. I don't know who it iss. No,
I meant like some shady ship. Francesco. We're going to

(05:39):
get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First,
we're gonna tell our listeners. Oh boy, a couple of
things we're talking about today. We're gonna talk about the
radical in the White House, Joe Biden. He's gonna get
things done with some loving stretches strategy. We're gonna talk
about Don Jr's how he's what's on what's that site

(06:01):
called cameo? Cameo? Right, he's on Cameo. I'm acting like
I haven't already paid the money to get. Yeah, we're
gonna talk about why the Second Amendment is a white
supremacist tool. We're gonna talk about Naomi Osaka. We're gonna
talk about how nobody knows how to act parte million

(06:22):
fifty five. We're gonna talk about our treats economy. We're
gonna talk about movie theaters now being cool with you
just not wearing a mask, all of that, plenty more.
But first, Francesca, we like to ask eric guests, what
is something from your search history that is revealing about
who you are? Yeah? See we do this. People forget

(06:45):
about that I didn't do. Yeah, but see this is
this makes it more honest because you can't even prep
You gotta just tell us what is actually in your
search history? Okay, this is and I think I deleted,
but I was just double checking that truffle butter actually

(07:08):
means the thing as gross as I thought it meant,
and as inappropriate and sexual and unpleasant. And then I
was like, why did Nicki Minaj have to do a
whole song about this, Like why you didn't have to
go there? And I'm not going to get into a
Nikki versus Cardi, but card team Cardi obviously, And I

(07:30):
know some people think that they're different, but like you,
it's um And so I was that I did the
boomer thing, which is for sure a lot of us
are like, what does this mean? Again? I thought I
knew truffle butter. You know, it's just very like, what's
truffle butter made of? Yeah, I water isn't so so yes,
I did that. I literally just looked that up last night,

(07:52):
a propos of nothing, just me. I don't know why
I thought about it. Also, yes, it's a very dangerous
practice to have anything remotely like trouffle butter happening. Please
please read up. Please be safe out there. Wait why
is it danger? All right? So I'm just gonna read off.
I'm just gonna stumble headlong into this. As you wanted

(08:14):
to know, oblivious, so off Urban Dictionary. It is a
combination of fluids from having anal sex and intercourse, referencing
to the color and texture of thick substance that forms
after having both anal sex and the direct penetrate. Okay,
I'm a very serious correspondent. I want everyone to know
I've covered really important issues from fracking in Oklahoma to

(08:38):
abortion rights in El Salvador and I am employable. Uh,
but Israel is still in apartheid state. But also I
do not look up things like truffle butter and Jack.
Why did you have to read no? But you know no,
Miles is correct, Like you should be very be careful
because there's a lot of pH balance in you know

(09:00):
that that cannot be disrupted and there's a there's a
delicate ecosystem. Is what I'm saying going back and forth
is the health danger? Ye? Okay, okay, Ten out of
ten doctors would say do not you don't don't, don't
not do that? Okay? What is what something you think
is overrated? Francesca um urban fictionary is overrated. I'm embracing

(09:26):
I am. I love that. I love that my career
is overrated. Um overrated. Chris Hemsworth's body, Uh huh, you
like why it's again too much? Too much thing, Like
it's just he's huge, And he was like he he
posted the instagram you know of him on the set

(09:48):
of Thor and he was like kind of joking that
he wasn't flexing, And I was like, I don't even
know what that body would look like, not fleck like
it doesn't. I don't even know if you can't not
flex when you're that huge, And how do you get
how do you move? How do you take a shower?
How do you do anything? I believe in you know,
a healthy work I mean workout regiment, you know, you know,

(10:11):
get right with your body, get some whatever, do you know,
do what you need to get some muscles. But like
that's a little much, well too much. Four arms are
the size of my calves. It's like alarming when you
look at this photo. But this is what you're talking about,
the one with him and Tyke Away. Yeah, he looks
like he looks like Gaston from you know, Beauty and
the Beast. He has straight up Disney proportions, which is

(10:33):
a little okay cool. Um. I hope that he's got
non consensual Disney proportions that that, but that we've god combo.
I've always thought that like Arnold Schwarzenegger in the eighties,
Sylvester Stallone like those, and this Chris Hemsworth built like
it's more for the guys than it is for Like

(10:54):
it's like dudes who don't want to admit that they
like looking at that, but they're like it's very much
for men for sure. Yeah, I for men to not
want to go to the gym ever again. People people
are looking at them, they're like, oh man, I gotta
work out. At what point could you even look like that?
You know, you know how much work it would take.

(11:17):
Are you fighting fanos later at the fucking barbecue? Why
do you? Why do you need to get that size?
But hey man, I love seeing those videos too where
people funk with people with muscles that big because they
can't reach certain spots in their back because of their
muscle mass. So like they'll do this thing, or they'll
put like a post it that says some ship and
they're like, yeah, to be completely defeated by a kick

(11:38):
mason right, And you're like, yes, you see, you're not
flexibly too massive, and you do prefer the beasts body.
That's that's more in the beasts, the for beauty and
the beast. You're talking a yeah yeah. I was just
wondering if it's going to mean yeah, yeah beast. When

(11:59):
he he became a human, it was like the first
time I felt like feelings as a as a thirteen
year old, I was like, oh my god, he's really hot,
Like you know, no, other Prince really did it for me,
but he was just like damn, like his body gets
like carried all limp because he's just like he's all
tired because he's about to die. Anyway, I love the Beast.

(12:21):
I don't know what the I am post beast body.
I don't need, you know, just just a little chisel.
You don't need to be huge. I don't really get
what you do with all that muscle mass other than
lift other weights, Like do you just is that your
if your life is just lifting heavier and heavier things
and that's your job. I get I guess I get it,
but just on a day to day level, that feels

(12:43):
like too much and unnecessary. Yeah. I was always a
fan of the Ron Perlman Beast right then that that
Oh my god, that poster so much Main just like
eighties Main. Yeah, it looks like he was like a
roadie for Poison. Like the way the hair is like

(13:05):
sort of you know, feathered and tees. It's very hair metal.
He's always in the front row like, yeah, you guys,
you know our groupie. Yeah, Beasts, he's really chill. Every
hair metal band should have a groupie named Beast, for sure.
I remember when Tyson came out of prison and like
had the second act of his career and people were like,

(13:28):
he's actually two jacked, like he lifted too many weights
in prison, and like it's not good for his boxing career.
My brain has gone to that multiple times as a reason,
like I don't need to work out. Yeah, you don't
want to get too big. I wouldn't exactly, it's a
perfect excuse. I don't want to scare anybody. You can't
Kevin Durant can't put on all that weight. It's gonna

(13:49):
suck his gangs long and slim. It would suck my
game up of sitting on the couch exactly. It seems uncomfortable.
What is something you think is under did Hot in
sower soup is underrated? It? I just got really into
remembering how good hot and sour soup was, and then

(14:10):
I made finally tried to make some last night, which
was really good. It was complicated and all this, but
it's always seen as like it's like a appetizer or
side or whatever, and or like it's free with the
with the lunch menu, the hot and sour soup, But
it's so fucking good. Love and I like vegetarian hot
and so our soup, but just like the bamboo shoots

(14:32):
and the tofu and it's just so good on top
finish it off. How where does the viscosity come from
when you make it? It's definitely corn's uh meal, corn
starch kind of make a little slurry type thing. First.
I didn't do it for this one didn't call for it.
I think it was it was out of like a
you know, modern cookbook or whatever, but it definitely felt

(14:54):
I was like, man, I need the gooey, like, where's
the but it was the flavor was there, the labor
was very much there. I think I order it whenever
it's on a menu. That's just how our roll like.
It's something it's a flavor that if it's available to me,
I want to engage in. But there's nothing worse than
getting some whack ass hot and sour soup where like
it was phoned in it's not sour enough. I feel

(15:15):
like that happens a lot where it's not a vinegar,
because that's giving. Yeah, it's the vinegar, and they put
lime juice in it also, and apparently tamarind, which I
couldn't find, but it was still really good. Yeah, like
there's no tofu in it. It's just kind of slop
and you're like, this is Whispy's this is the bottom
of the barrel. But yeah, everyone, yeah we should. It's

(15:35):
just very good. That's a very random one. But yeah
it's underrated and you made your own and it was successful.
It was good. But I don't ever check how long
recipes are gonna take, so we ate it like eleven o'clock.
I am the world's slowest cook. You just like triple
any recipe time, and yeah, that's very adorable. You should

(15:56):
be a sux chef. My wife is like, oh, you're
gonna tonight, Okay, great, you're I'll order. Yeah. Yeah, it's
just she she knows she's not gonna eat during normal
waking hours. But I tend to sometimes overestimate my ability
to pull off the recipe and like the time that

(16:16):
it says, like in the things like yeah I should
take about two hours, I'm like, okay, and then I'm
to find myself being like, all right, so dinner is
gonna be in about forty five minutes, and I'm saying
that at but yeah, I just would I don't read well,
I'm the person that's like, uh, it's like if tech support.
I'll read something and I'm like I got this, and
then I'm like, I don't got this. And when I
watch the YouTube video, can't watch the YouTube video. I'm

(16:38):
two board, Like I'm impatient. So I just skipped the
part of the recipe that's like let it simmer for
forty five minutes. You know, I just don't like I
have the ingredients, but no time anyhow, right right, yeah,
speed it up. All right, let's take a quick break
and we will be right back. And we're back, and uh,

(17:09):
let's talk about Joe Biden. He is going to get
things done with this whole obstructionist Joe mansion, Kristen's Cinema
arm of his own wing or of his own party. Yeah,
he's he's got a plan. I don't know who these
people are or what version of America they're rooting for,
because they don't want fifteen dollar minimum ways, they don't

(17:30):
like most policies that benefit like anybody except their donors.
Kursen Cinema was like shell skip Town when they were
voting on the forming of the January six Commission, and
I was like, I had a family thing to go
to and you're like, oh, okay, what what are we doing? Now?
We're gonna let these two people continue the minority rule

(17:50):
that's just blocking everything in the Senate. So again, I
just read this headline. It says Biden uses new strategy
to convince and moderate Dems. And I was like, okay,
I wonder what kind of pressure we're talking? What's going
on here? This is apparently what he did. Put a
statement out that just said this, and I I think he
tweeted this out in the third person, which was quote,
Biden only has a majority of effectively four votes in

(18:12):
the House and the tie the Senate with two members
of the Senate who voted more with my Republican friends.
Hold on, Biden, why are you why are you switching
it up to first person? Then? Okay, whatever, I mean
that came from his account, not that's why he said,
my Republican friends, anyway, how do you open PDF? But
his whole thing is, you know, the filibuster reform could

(18:36):
go a long way, you know, in situations like this
when you're not just saying, hey, can you get to
two thirds? Can you can you hit that number? Or no?
Because then we can just let this small group of
Republicans just completely stall everything out from voting rights to
any anything on Biden's agenda. And so I'm just really
curious what he thinks he's gonna achieve with this new

(18:57):
tactic of essentially just going like, guys, come on, when
the stakes couldn't be fucking higher, when everyone's like, you know,
if you funck this up, like, chances are you're gonna
lose everything in the mid terms if you don't come
with real results, because the people who held their noses
and voted for you were expecting it, you know, at
least maybe a modicum of the things that you said

(19:18):
you do to you know, come to fruition. And now
just sort of like, I don't know, man, fucking legal
weed and d C. I don't know if I'm for
that anymore. Jack, And You're like, what the fool the
fun what are you doing? And so, yes, we're finding
ourselves in a very frustrated position where now Kirsten Cinema
is coming out and saying the filibuster quote protects the
democracy of our nation and is meant to create comedy

(19:39):
and encourage committee, encourage and encourage senators from both parties
to work together to those who say that we must
make a choice between the filibuster and X, I say
this is a false choice. First of all, the tool
is not to protect democracy. Have you read any of
the cool fucking BuzzFeed or Vox, any fucking articles it's
like the buster. Yeah, how racist is the filibuster? But

(20:02):
I guess you know, go off, Yeah, I love the
idea that the filibuster is fine. It just we need
to be better. It's like the idea that like, oh yeah,
like the look, the justice system in this country is fine,
all right, Yes, it's designed to marginalize poor people and
black people. But just make sure that you're not poor
or black. Just you. Yeah, no, no, very simple. You

(20:27):
alter your behavior, slash skin color, and uh you know,
everything will be hunky dory with you. I don't need
to reform anything. The old guns don't kill people. I
kill people absolutely, philosophy absolutely no. And and the real thing,
I mean, the Senate. This is when you realize just
how fuck the Senate is. The Senate is the most

(20:47):
undemocratic body in this country. It is not representative, of course,
and that it can get like undone by this bullshit
old rule and held up by two pp pole who
do not represent the majority of the country. That like,
you've got Raphael Warnock in their elected you know, trying
to make good for Georgians and like pass something like

(21:10):
HR one the in the Voting Rights Act or um
whatever it is, the For the People Act. Yeah, And
meanwhile in his own state, they're like passing all these
rollbacks to voting rights. I mean, and this is this
is that like bind that is total b s. And
so I'm happy that Biden is at least saying naming
He's not naming people by name, but he's kind of

(21:31):
naming mansion in cinema. But it also is a sense
of it's from a place of powerlessness when I think
he does have more power than that. He absolutely does, um,
whether it's campaigning, whether it's in those states, whether it's
executive orders. I mean, come on, just there is an
argument to be made to just go forth with something
like the For the People Act and then fight it

(21:52):
in the court. Are we gonna have courts standing on
the side of voter suppression. I don't know, Like maybe not,
Maybe the courts will actually be better than the Senator
is at this point. God, you can only it's it's
it's also really difficult to fathom, right, like when you
see all the states enacting all this aggressive voter suppression
that they can't even see like if even if they

(22:14):
gave a ship about partisan politics, like you're gonna let
them play like this, like you're cool with that, Like
what what version of reality are you operating? When you're
just like, yeah, that's fine if you know one can vote.
I mean, I don't, I don't care, Like is that
is that really what your worldview is? Because that's what
it seems like. And then when you see that kind
of whatever cynicism or nihilism or whatever these people are

(22:34):
going through, or just the fact that they don't care
because they just want to be the most famous person
in Arizona and West Virginia, respectively, that it's just like
what I could do something, or I can just fucking
I don't know, just say what I need to get
some more corporate donations and stay on this another six years.
All right, Let's talk about where the Trump family and

(22:54):
the Trump Org are at the moment, a k A cameo.
They're on cameo saying I'll read whatever you want me
to four or yeah, I feel like, that's a lot
of cameos to pay off the millions in legal fees
that they are probably incurring a lot of birthdays. Yeah,

(23:17):
that's what I said that even on Tucker Carlson. Do
you remember in Arrested Development when Carl Weathers showed up
and there's that fight at the bar and they cut
to like a new sequence and Carl Weathers is clearly
like a con man type guy and he's like, Yo,
I'm like, I'm looking at fifty dollars in legal expenses
and he holds up like an aluminum foil to go
swan of food and it's like, you're just like, this

(23:39):
guy is just a con artist. This is the way
Don Junior one on Tucker Carlson. He was like, we're
looking ahead millions in legal fees. I mean, come on, Tucker,
it's like we're being prosecuted legally or something. Yeah, So
cut to our man on cameo looking all kinds of unhealthy.
I'll leave it there and I'll feel with everything you

(24:00):
could hope for in a greeting from Don junr has
bad improv negging, lib slander, taking shots at CNN ages
um like I'm not it almost feels like a Stefan
sketch because this has everything and I'm going to play
one of them where uh, you know, try to keep
up with wherever this is headed, Peter, this is Donald

(24:22):
Trump Jr. I'm told that you're turning older than dirt,
and I'm not that sorry about that because I'm also
told that you're a serious lib. Fortunately for you, at
least you have a family that has the sense to
not be a lib and that they're full of Trump supporters,
so that's pretty awesome. I've also heard about some of

(24:42):
your fetishes, so you may be as sick as some
of the people in the Biden family. That's just me.
Who am I to judge? But I hope you have
a good birthday regardless, and I hope your family rides
you like sea biscuit, have a good one. Man. Uh huh.
He's got that puffy look of like either a body

(25:07):
that's been floating face down in a pool of water
and has discovered like a week later, or somebody who's
got a three day bloat. He's definitely or a cocaine bender.
But you know, we alleged who knows if they he
has that kind of money, if he's out here begging
for five It's something else to see. Again, I really

(25:28):
hope this is a true indication of their financial desperation
and not just like him being like fucking man, like,
I just need money. If I can just create some
extra play money for my hunting trips, I'll just do
it here or whatever. But it's those those pauses, even
he's like, so, um, your your families are It's just
there's there's a there's a just a quality to it

(25:51):
that I'm I'm quite enjoying. No, they absolutely need money.
He's wearing a Trump like hotel shirt that it's all
that's left is just the boxes and boxes of lime
green um Polo shirts that no one's gonna buy. And yeah,
I mean they're probably hauling stuff away and the on

(26:12):
the like on the other side of the camera. I
love this. I love the idea that this happening. I
want now, I want us to pull resources into a cameo. Obviously,
nothing that he said is his own, like our his
own words, like riding you like sea biscuit. That was
clearly something they told him to say. You could get
him to say anything, but that was like an incest

(26:32):
thing wasn't it. He was like, you're into weird fetishes,
and I hope your family rides you like see I
think they're saying like giving him a part time Oh okay,
I think it's incest because you know, my dad wants
to ride Ivanka like right see daughter, right? Yeah, But
it does seem like they he'll he'll say anything. It's

(26:53):
good to see that his his career is in such
a good place because think about the other things you
could do for five do you know what I mean?
Is there I mean, is there a a clothing deal,
a podcast deal, a book deal? Like what? There's so
many other things you could do to get that money,
and that's not there. Like this is not really a

(27:13):
way to connect to people either. You know it's not.
But maybe it's also like, oh I am a celebrity.
That's the other way of thinking about it is like
you know, you think you're a celebrity. But like even
I was looking into not to be back to sex
in the City, but I was looking at like how
much Christopher No charges? He's big? Mr five thousand dollars

(27:34):
see knows is worth? Knows is worth? Ice cube? Whoa?
You know, some people are swinging for the fences. Carrie
Underwood charges a thousand and for someone who like a
family that is so griffty like them. I'm surprised they're
not going for that level because they're so shameless in
you know, just builking their supporters for dollars that I'm

(27:56):
surprised it wasn't like, yeah, man, this ship is like
two grand. But I maybe because the people who already
donate to them at that level have already got some
form of a cameo for being like, hey, thanks for
being a patriot and donating all that money. You know
that they don't even they're not they're not gonna come
back for this. They're in litigation right now. Dude. They
didn't They didn't get a photo with him. They got
like maybe a cardboard cut out and like a thank

(28:18):
you email and then another email and then yeah, donated
five times more than they wanted to because they didn't
un check the proper boxes, and so yeah, I guess,
uh cameo. Folks don't know about that. So yeah, it's
yeah again, I'm I'm loving the desperation. I hope that
now we're slowly speaking to see that translate into like

(28:38):
outcomes and repercussions judicially, um so waiting for that shoe.
He uh is also like turning into Jerry Folwell Jr.
Like they are becoming the same person, Like don't they
don't they look identical now, which is a weird like
person for him to hold up as like his life
goals like a disgraced son of a legend dairy person.

(29:00):
He's like, yeah, that disgraced from a disgraced person of
a disgraced Yeah, disgraced the legend. That makes sense. It
does feel like he's also doing his a dad impression. Yeah,
he does do his dad with like a hand thing,
which I'm sure he practices for hours in the mirror
every morning. He's like, I can't get that. That just
slight forward lean right that My dad nails, you know,

(29:23):
his intonation, and that just like his the way he
speaks just feels trump more trumpy than usual. He's usually
kind of like I'm just here and I'm gonna, you know,
riff on, Mr potato Head, and I'm gonna bring jokes
that someone wrote for me, and you know, and that's
like him normally, but this felt much more like you're
a great guy, blah, blah blah. Trump will be on cameo.

(29:46):
Mark my words, Mark my words. It is only a
matter of time. It'll be like seven thousand and ten
thousand dollars, maybe not even, but he'll be there. That
will That's when we know, right, we're like, oh, we're there,
We're there. Everyone's doing it. So it's bad. Everyone's gotta
be there. Everyone's gonna be there. I mean yeah, because
I mean you look at well because the other thing

(30:07):
that was interesting is that this conversation about the money
desperation came up in relation to the social media stuff
and like how well the blog wasn't doing and whether
or not he's actually going to try something that will work,
and a lot of this the reporting was that he
didn't want to lend his name to something that already existed.
But they and like they said, he had been turning
down offers, like big offers from like these conservative social

(30:29):
media platforms that really wanted Trump to be like their
marquee signing. And but the sort of reporting sort of
ended with like, but that could be changing as their
financial situation becomes more strained, and I'm like, oh, fuck,
just give me like some numbers here, Like I would
love to see an infograph of what we're talking here,
like what what the bills look like every day? Who
owes money? Because and then there's a ton of people

(30:51):
who are have been in orbit of them, who are
now in their own legal trouble and they're like, yo,
I need you to like help me too, because I'm
being investigated for a ride and with the ship so
or should I flip? Yeah, imagine the boot camp where
his dad who hates him, where Donald Trump Junior's dad

(31:12):
is trying to like turn him into a viable like
political successor to him, because that that has been like
rumored that like Donald Trump Jr. Was going to be
the second coming. But I I can just imagine like
Donald Trump like working with him on his hand gestures

(31:33):
to try to make him into like a clone of himself,
but he hates him so much and also probably like
you know, is such a narcissist and like hate you know,
secretly hates himself. So it just seems like the worst
toxic environment that I wouldn't wish on my own worst enemies,
but I would definitely wish on them. Yeah, that's cocaine

(31:55):
face also kind of looks like I've been crying all night,
you know, And I don't doubt that the Don Jump Jr.
Has done that. And no, it is very much like
if he were ever groomed to be to run for president,
Trump would be waiting in the wings and at the
very last moment he'd be like Nana, no, no, no,
I'm reading this comes out and he's like, I'm running again.

(32:17):
Like that is the level of levolence and evil and
also just like or just yeah, that's the kind of
daddy is and he will do that. There's I don't
think he's grooming anybody to be his successor. I am
if if this family doesn't fail upwards, because it's hard
to know how you can fail even farther up than

(32:38):
the presidency, right, but I'm still like, man, if they
actually don't are if they are not able to seal
another deal that isn't the White House, I will be
just floored. I will be It would be like the
first time a like wealthy white elitist wasn't able to
fail up And you know, oh, it'll be like NBC, which,

(33:01):
by the way, you should give me another job. But
like they will be there to catch the Trumps at
some point, like someone will still be there to catch
them if they can't. I think, you know that's it's
a I don't envy that position. We're like, funk, what
do we do? Weake? They'll take this shitty deal and
we'll make so much mother fucking desperate Like they're gonna

(33:24):
look dumb as fuck, and the ad it's it's gonna,
it's gonna. I don't know what to say, but we
said black lives matter, but like, oh god, yeah, but
you know what, being in the black matters too, because
this is a capitalist corporation, baby something, What then are
we gonna do? It's yeah, it's a fucking wild ride
for them, But yeah, I think when we see Trump
on there, it'll be time to have like parties were like,

(33:45):
oh we're there, We're there, daddy's out here. But to
your point of like him being at the last minute
tapping himself in would just be hilarious where he's like,
I'm like Paul Pierce, y'all thought I was done, that
came out of the locker room ready to fuck y
all up here. I am. It's fully his plan is
to my version of this is that like he's not
grooming Avanka because like she would actually be a valid,
like a viable candidate. So he's grooming like his fail

(34:09):
son who he then will uh, you know, torpedo and upstate.
He's like, so you can't do anything right, so I
have to do it myself. Should be more like your sister, Bly.
I like how your Trump is Alec Baldwin doing Trump.
It's it's it's more like just of energy than I think.
Over the years, it's just turned into a sad energy
and then occasionally just becomes very hip hop, like definitely

(34:32):
someone from Yonkers who grow up with DMX. All right,
let's talk about this new book it's called The Second
Race and Guns and a Fairly Unequal America. That really
kind of crystallized the conversation around the Second Amendment for
me in a way that I hadn't like fully consciously

(34:53):
embraced because I feel like the way the mainstream media
treats it, it's like Second Amendment conversation, the gun rights
advocate conversation. It's just like treated as a coincidence that
those people tend to also be the people who get
furious when you suggest something as simple as black lives matter.

(35:15):
But it's like, yeah, they're just like on the same spectrum,
but they're not necessarily like fully connected to one another.
And this new book by historian Carol Anderson looks at
both the history of the Second Amendment, like when it
was first formed and why it was first formed, but
also just sort of the present moment and the the

(35:37):
big kind of present tense news story that she looks
at is Filando Castile, who was following the n r
A guidelines for how to inform an officer you are
legally carrying a gun like to the t like it's
there's a handbook where they tell you how to do
this in the n r A. He did that and

(36:00):
was shot and killed by the cop following the letter
of the law, and he was killed for it. And
this was the perfect opportunity for an organization that is
so horny for conflict and to be like victimized, to
create a martyr who they could get behind. And they
were completely silent. They wanted no part of backing Philando Castile. Meanwhile,

(36:23):
you know, in the nineties the Branch Davidians were raided
by federal agents, and you know members of that cult
murdered federal agents. The n r A back to them,
you know the Ruby Ridge saying, um militia movements saying
they back people who murder federal agents when they are white.

(36:46):
And her argument is that this is not an accident.
The Second Amendment from the start was designed to arm
white people against potential slave uprisings. And and you know,
when they were writing the amendments, the Southern States didn't
think that the federal government would help them fight off

(37:10):
a slave revolt with the federal army. And so that's
why they created, at least partially why they created this
Second Amendment that has the everybody should have guns and
everybody should be able to form a militia, so that
they basically had the backing of the federal government to
form uh their own military. Um. And that was like

(37:33):
James Madison and all the Virginians and shipped. But then
you know they obviously heavily implied in that is that
it's only it only applies to white people. Um. And
throughout the history of the country, white armed rebellion has
been treated with a slap on the wrist like the
Whiskey rebellion, while black armed rebellion or self defense has

(37:58):
been treated with terror and state sanctioned murder. Or dropping
bombs on the whole neighborhood. Yeah, that's she didn't talk
about this in the interview that I listened to, but
the details of the Tulsa race mask her. The entire
thing kicked off when black residents of Tulsa showed up

(38:19):
at a prison with guns to protect a teenager from
a lynch mob, and a shot was fired. Nobody knows
by who, but the very idea of a black person
firing a shot stirred the mob to the organized and
systematic and genocidal violence that they enacted like the next morning.

(38:40):
It's so interesting because, like you know, Jim Crow was
established soon after the end of the Civil War, I mean,
the idea of segregation in a two tiered system, you know,
the failed reconstruction and all that. Then we have a
hundred more years of Jim Crow. And you wonder why, like,

(39:02):
like our country is so racist, why didn't they just
amend the Second Amendment, Like you would expect them to
either rein in or amend or change the Second Amendment
or just eliminate it altogether, because oh my god, what
if black people got weapons, you know, just to cover
their asses. But instead it was like now, they'll just
let everyone fight one another, and we're not going to
stop white mobs and everyone can defend themselves except for

(39:26):
if you're black. This this book sounds amazing, and I'm
sure she goes into the Black Panthers and of course, yeah, yeah, totally,
she goes deep into that and how their whole stated
purpose was arming themselves so that they could police the police,
because shockingly, the police state sanctioned murder of black people

(39:48):
goes back throughout history to when the police were founded
as like slave patrols, and the way that they treated
that was by execute woting their leaders and killing people
and arresting people. I mean, there's so many books like
this about so many specific things that just like essentially

(40:09):
boiled down to like some big American idea with an
asterisk next to it, that's the terms and conditions apply, right,
just so you know, like if for to some people,
and yeah, to even look at like, yeah, it's your point, Francisco,
like you think if they could take it off the
table at one god damn, black people won't have guns.
We don't have to worry about that. Ship. But there's

(40:29):
something about the racism in this country that's so shortsighted
and just reactionary without like really considering it, and then
like down the road and be like, oh yeah, what
was that about. Wait that was race. Oh yeah, we
didn't look. It's it's been so many years now and
it's so ingrained in the culture and we're not really
interested in again parsing through that and understanding the motivations
behind having amendments like this or the perceived rights of

(40:52):
things like this. But yeah, it's just it's yeah, even liberals,
like you're saying Jack initially that you know, they consider
this untouchable, like well, you know, in Second Amendment rights people,
and you know, and it's just it's seen as such
a quote unquote cultural almost religious, almost put in the
same category, you know, as someone who's pro life on

(41:14):
religious grounds, and that's obviously a separate bullshit issue, um,
but like this, this sort of scene as that is
super untouchable because liberals also planned to the idea that
our founding fathers were good and that they were not racist,
and yeah, maybe they owned slaves, but they were good
people and everybody owned slaves and that's exactly what they
took care of. But it's like no, and it's Okay,

(41:37):
we're just we're given speaking of you guys asked about
myths on this show all the time, and you know,
the founding myth that like this country is was founded
by good people and on good terms. It's like, no,
we have to We're told so many myths that uphold that,
and it feels, it does feel scary to unravel and

(41:58):
begin to unravel those myths we're told. You know, Polka
Hunt is totally consented to being John Smith child brat,
you know, that kind of crap that like, but it's
okay if we can replace it with like new ideas
and we can replace it with like better aspirations, you
know what I mean. I think, you know, Obama had
words the best words, Uh, he really did, and like

(42:22):
I think he began to carve out and I wish
we could have someone who has actually made good on
his promises, you know, to carve out this idea that
we're still constructing this American dream. And it is why
a lot of civil rights organizers and activists call for
what they they say they name a third reconstruction, the
second reconstruction being the civil rights movement, the first reconstruction

(42:44):
being a failed attempt but you know, of of equality,
and we still have to strive for that. But and
it's okay, we can let go of these old myths,
but not if liberals keep on conflating this ship, which
is so clearly racist, with some kind of religious or
foul additional untouchable principle of American nous that we can't

(43:04):
actually reform. Yeah, and I think it's and then I
think more people have to begin to see that unwillingness
as like an absolute red line in terms of not
wanting to vote for someone to support someone like that,
because you're like, we need representatives who are gonna look
with a sober eye at our history, see where we
came from, to understand where we need to go. Because

(43:25):
if you're already playing with this like obscure, oh, sanitized version,
you could never solve a problem. And it's like, looking
at you have a fucking X ray and ship and
it's like some crayon drawing and you're like, yeah, it
looks like that one red spot on the bone should go.
And you're like, I wish this were a real X
ray so you could actually see what you're looking at
inside my chest where it is specifically what Organs. It's

(43:49):
damaging because this other version of being like yeah, this bad,
we should cut it out isn't going to get to
the point and isn't going to create the sort of
forward momentum in progress that we're seeking. And yeah, it's
it's it is a hard thing, and we do need
to keep looking at it. To your point of saying like, yeah,
we don't have to just talk about how fucked up
everything is. You can pivot to that and say, yeah,

(44:09):
that was the world as it was, and this is
the world as it should be. And these are the
people who were moving to try and take our country
and our society to the world as it should be.
And this is what we're still building on. See, we
want to build on this momentum rather than like yeah,
thanks John Adams, sick bro, and then just leaving it there. Yeah,
this argument and this kind of connecting of the Second

(44:32):
Amendment to systemic white supremacy, just the anger and vitriol
and fear tied up in the Second Amendment argument and
guns rights people never fully made sense to me. It
was always I was always picturing when they said, like
they're gonna come for our guns, and like that I
need my guns to like protect my family. They always

(44:55):
talk about like the government coming for your guns, and
it's like, what are you talking about, Like that's not
even a thing that we have in our history. But
I think when you connect it to the white supremacy,
the fact that you know, we've talked before on the
show about the fact that they know white supremacy is
a lie. Like on some level, they know that they

(45:15):
know they live on a graveyard of horrific abuses that
propped them up to wherever they exist, and that black
Americans have every right to demand retribution, and they know
that this is this lie that every American has the
right to own guns is a massive advantage they have,
and that's why they're obsessed with stories about how crime

(45:38):
ridden cities are so that they can like justify their fear.
Like when when you ask people who watch Fox News
what they think a city is, like, it's it's so
outside the bounds of reality. They think it's odds that
HBO show, yes, they did, playing out in a Starbucks.
That's why, and that's why they're so outraged anytime anyone

(46:00):
criticizes police violence. But it's why they are so like
there's all that fear, all those lies, all that hatred,
like holding the idea of white supremacy in their mind
along with some part of them that has seen that
that ship is not true. Like then they're trying to
hold those together, and that creates cognitive dissonance, It creates angry,

(46:23):
it creates fear, and it just really the the image.
As I was like kind of listening to her interview
with Terry Gross's substitute teacher, I forget that David David
beyond Something's like Terry Gross's sub and then like reading
up on this book, the thing that kept hopping into
my head is that suburban St. Louis couple who when

(46:46):
Black Lives Matter protesters were walking past their home, they
stood on their front lawn holding their guns and like
waving them at them, like kind of waving their right
to own guns as a privilege in the face of
black protesters who would be killed on site for holding

(47:06):
guns that open like just being like, this is our advantage.
Fuck you like that. That is her whole argument really
kind of ties a lot of things together for me. Yeah,
and go beyond that. I mean, the entire Trump presidency
is an emblem, an homage to white supremacy, to the

(47:29):
idea that if you're rich and white enough and a dude,
you can get away with anything. Look at January six.
I always talk about this. I'm just like, man, I'm
Marshawn Washington. Many times I would be murdered. Just how
close would I have gotten to breaking a window the

(47:52):
Capitol steps had we been you know, work like protesting
a war, protesting the International Monetary Fund, protesting police murder
like or anything. It's just so like when we I
feel like, as a white person watching the January six,

(48:14):
like every white person, I don't know, I am half white,
and I so I kind of understand this, but like
must have been looking at and being like, man, white
privilege really is kind of a thing like looking at
because you know, people of color in this country where
like white privilege is absolutely look at that. Look at that, Yeah,

(48:35):
look at the way there's no accountability for that. A
few months later, absolutely and so disheartening to witness too
as a black person and Asian person living in this
country and saying, see, they can fucking go and do
that because they're upset that Trump isn't president. Meanwhile, we're
looking at real fucked up outcomes for unarmed people, and

(48:57):
you know, it's like everybody knows. I'm like, no, it's
foolish enough to come armed to something like that. As
a person class, the game is just completely different, and
the sad thing is too like on the on the
face of it, in history, marginalized people have more of
a reason to be like, no, I need these guns, man.
Have you seen what they Have you seen what they
do to us? Have you seen what they do to us? Oh?
Hell no? And how are you gonna how are we

(49:18):
gonna move forward at all? When we're just kind of
looking at these small issue or not that this is
a small issue, but we're not really looking at changing
real lived outcomes for people and just thinking like, well,
maybe if the guns are gone, that could be something. No,
how about you give people support, how about you give
them options? How about you give them upboard mobility, Because
I'm sure most people would prefer that than to live
in a you know, in a cycle of fear and

(49:40):
violence and anger, uh, and would much rather be in
a place of abundance on some level or just to
have some relief. That's why it's so upsetting. Things, you know,
instances like Philando castile, because you're absolutely right that unarmed
black people get gunned down all the time, and so
what is to whine not just be armed? They get

(50:01):
gunned down by vigilantes, um self proclaimed vigilantes. Now I'm
blinking on his name. But the gentleman who was killed,
the young kid who was killed last year, no right before,
um George Floyd u ahmat auvery yeah, I'm at auby
and former police officers and then most recently another young

(50:23):
But it's like every time the conversation if someone had
a gun, the internet conversation is, oh, but he had
a gun, but he had a gun. Oh, his hands
were up, but he had a gun. Then kill him
on site. That's not allowed, depending again, terms and conditions apply.
Like it's the number one tool for white supremacy, is
this lie and being able to just enforce this lie

(50:45):
within sort of the mainstream culture that you know, well,
really only white people are allowed to have guns, like
and if somebody who isn't white has a gun, the
police will murder them on site like that. That's unbelievable.
And like the fact that it's not set out loud
like constantly like that, that is the it's a shocking,

(51:09):
like dystopian reality that I just feel like people don't
say Asian American gun ownership soaring through the roof. I
do believe in gun control except for Asian elders. I
think we should arm Asian aunties and uncles with a
R fifteen. That's it. They're the only ones police no guns.

(51:32):
Everyone else no guns. But Asian aunties and uncles, we
arm them. They patrol. Yeah, and they tell you obviously,
like how to choose a good watermelon, and you know,
how to stay out, how to stay out of the sun.
Very very disciplined. On the triggers, that's a bust. They're
going for anything. They're like, you know, I'm gonna hit
you with it real quick first. Yeah, oh no, no,

(51:52):
I'm not gonna it's not loaded. I will smack you
over the head with this stuff. It's a big gas bat.
That's who I believe in army. I'm with their little baskets.
They can carry them in the little front portion of it.
I'm about that. Here we go, all right, let's take
a quick break and we'll be right back. And we're back,

(52:21):
and we touched on Naomi Osaka dropping from the French
Open earlier this week and just kind of connecting it
to the overall movement in the culture far too late
and far too little. But to be like, wait, are
athletes humans? Like where when labor When somebody spit on

(52:43):
Trey Young like and dumped popcorn on an injured Russell
Westbrook like that that was even treated as a thing.
It seems kind of new. But the Naomi Osaka being
the best and most famous athlete who is like kind
of breaking new ground and just being like, I need

(53:04):
to I need to take care of my mental health. Yeah.
Well the progression of things is so interesting, right because
the first she was like, look, just so you know,
next week when the tournament starts, I'm not gonna be
to impress um. I suffer from depression and I get
terrible anxiety before press conferences. And I'm I'm trying to,
you know, being a peak mental shape for a fucking

(53:25):
Grand Slam tennis tournament because that's what I do as
I do my ship on the court. I don't talk
to fucking somebody from NBC Sports. I serve. I hit aces, okay,
I hit the backhand and forehand. I'm not here to
fucking give you a hot take on some other ship,
and I hate that that's what happens in these press conferences.
They've meant they take me out of my zone and
I'm trying to be very conscious of that. And first

(53:46):
she was like, y'all eat the fine. I know they're
gonna find me because I'm these are mandatory appearances at
these press conferences. Then the tournament came back and said, okay,
but here's the deal, like, if you don't comply, this
could lead to suspensions from future tournaments, um and really
funck your career up. So she was essentially forced to
pick between her mental health and winning the French Open,
and she picked the former. She said, you know what

(54:07):
I'm gonna I'm picking me every fucking time. And she
talked about how again she was struggling with depression. The
director of the French Open tournament wished her, like quote
a speedy recovery because she says, you're gonna take some
time because we all know, you know, anxiety and depression.
That's just you just do a little bit of stretching
and put some ice on it and then you'll get
over that ship. That's how it works. Like and this

(54:29):
idea that they are so disconnected from the humanity of it.
I think kicked off many discussions like from what even
means from a labor perspective, right, like the conditions that
you're working under. Do you need to subject yourself to
this if you say, my primary function is to play
the tennis and that's how y'all make all your sponsorship money,
it's not because I talk at these press conferences, or
even just how sports journalism works, where you know, we're

(54:50):
in an age now where you're incentivized to ask like
provocative questions, to create some controversy and to to monetize
that because that's sort of how they game is set up.
So you know, people saying, oh, she's a millionaire, just
get on with it, become the funk on, you know
what I mean? Like this is she's a human being.
And anyone who saw that Australian Open, that first Grand

(55:11):
Slam she won against Serena Williams, that was an absolute
shit show for her. It was disgraceful how she was treated,
the ship that she went through. She was in tears
winning her first Grand Slam because all of the energy
went towards some other thing. I mean, it's it's a
terrible position to be in, but I think yeah to
to hear. Like, the other thing that's a little bit

(55:31):
disheartening is the lack of support from like other tennis players.
I know, like the Williams sisters have been pretty clear
because that there was that clip that's been going around
and I think it was a young Serena being interviewed
and this like when she was like, you know, maybe
thirteen or twelve, and this journalist was like, so you're
pretty confident that you can win. She's like, yeah, I
think I can beat anyone. And he's like, whoa, So

(55:53):
you're really confident. She's like yeah. He's like what what
makes you so confident? And her dad's like, Okay, this
ship is over. I told you you're not doing this
to my daughter. Like, if she says she's sucking confident,
let her fucking say that she's a fucking athlete and
if that's what she has to do to get in
the zone to perform, how dare you fucking try and
take her out of it? This was Serena's that sorry,
it was one of the I forget which sister was specific,
but is one of the Williams sisters and their father

(56:15):
completely interrupted the interview when they began to undermine their
confidence as a child. And you realize, like when you
see things like this, you people forget it's not just
about like, oh, they played tennis for a living, Okay,
to play at that level, It's it's a whole other
it's a whole other existence. It's very much a mind game.

(56:36):
I mean, I'm not that into sport, and uh, I
don't know that much, but you know, I generally understand
them to be team exercises. In large part. Tennis is
so in your head. It is one and fifty percent
in your mind and in your head. So like if
you're gonna need some like space and mental clarity and

(56:56):
meant and just like distance and not having to talk
to press, it's gonna be in tennis. One. The second thing,
like I she gives me hope, like Naomi Alsaka gives
me hope for the future, because this is that gen
Z energy of like, no, I'm just kind of not
going to take the bullshit and I'm gonna I'm gonna
know my own worth, I'm gonna know my own mental health.

(57:19):
I'm not being clearly driven into the ground by a parent,
which I think so many athletes are and then no,
you're just not going to own this part of me.
And I'm okay with that. And like the most power
move in the fact that like a twenty four year
old woman can pull this power move at the French
Open is just well, it's so beautiful and it really
does give me hope for for these generations. And it's

(57:41):
also interesting to see because you know, the backlash from
this is sort of to your point, is like it's
they're addressing that there's an imbalance of power by her
doing this. Yeah, and they don't like that someone could
have that kind of agency and like thwart the traditions
of this tournament. And I think it's it's it's the
same thing like this this remember when they were they

(58:04):
were coming at the Serena Williams Cats Suit the French Open.
You know what I mean. They have a real fucked
up track record of doing anything that is remotely progressive
or open to letting people do what they want for
their mental health or letting a woman of color do
what she needs to because remember she was wearing what

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wasn't the cats suit for like her circulation. It wasn't
like because she was like I'm out here to do
this like a stunt fucking fashion show. She's like, this
is actually helping me physically. I'm not what if it
was anyway, you know, yeah, but whatever. I think that's
what they were first trying to say, and it was
just you know, it's just a completely uh you see
this sort of the the powers that be sort of

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get this smack in the face, like how what they
said no to us? But we're but we're this tournament
and yeah. Again, I hope to see more tennis players
back her, because that's what they need to really start
to get. If they're going to get these tournaments to bend,
they need a they need a like a plurality of
players to say no no. I kind of agree with this,
um Like, if I didn't have to do press conferences,

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I wouldn't. I mean, I understand the nature of doing
press and things like that. So maybe we can find
some happy medium where I'm a little bit more in
control and I can engage with it in a way
that is absolutely comfortable for me and still takes into
consideration my performance. But to say for people to kind
of sit silently it is kind of a bummer because
this could this could be a really pivotal moment to

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really gain more and more momentum. Yeah, the media has
so much power over these athletes because they can start
a story about the fucking cat suit or whatever they can.
They can turn that into a controversy that becomes a
distraction that affects their ability to play, that affects their
the trajectory of their career, and then they're like, wow,

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Serena didn't have at this tournament and show like that.
So the way that they are acting in response to
the naomio saka de say as and is by being like, so,
how do you guys deal with it? Like basically singling
her out and then asking the people who didn't drop out,
so why didn't you drop out? You love us right
like this is and Venus Williams response revealed the amount

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of like disdain bordering on hatred that like is the
status quo of like that relationship. They were like, so,
how do you cope with the press? And she said,
for me, personally, how I cope how I deal with
it is that I know every single person asking me
a question can't play as well as I can and
never will. So no matter what you say, or what

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you write, you'll never light a candle to me. And
that's how I deal with it. But each person deals
with it differently. It's just like fuck all of you.
You are like just there to make their lives complicated
and difficult and then like to have an ego about
it and to like be asking follow up questions about

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like what what's her neal? Guys, everyone should watch the
Maradonna documentary on HBO. Um I lived in Argentina for
a while. I love Maradonna and the press utterly fucked
him from Italy's Pressed, Argentina's pressed to everybody, and it's
just such a good doc. But he always had just
had the best lines coming back at the media. Always

(01:01:22):
he would he would say, like, which means your dick
is on the inside, which could potentially be problematic for
other reasons, but you know he was that's like what
he would say to their faces, you know, to the
media's faces, and like, you know, his fans have like
a whole song about like, you know, news media. They

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just he hated them and it was so funny. And
it only makes it worse, obviously, because the way they
cover you only makes it worse. And same with politicians,
you know what I mean. It's like not to say Naomi,
I mean I really do like Naomi Osaka, but the
she's the same as Bernie Sanders and this is one
or whatever. But like Bernie is like this most zero
glad handy guy. He's not gonna like give you the

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fluff piece, the palace intrigue, the blah blah blah blah blah.
You know, and the media hates him also. He wants
to you know, break up giant corporations and take away
all of their donors, but and their funders, which might
have had something to do with it too. But it's
just so funny when you see people who don't play
the media game. They play their game, and they do
it very very very well. Just how um yeah, how

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fragile and how quickly that they can turn on you.
And I hope this is a turning point and so
they don't destroy a young woman's career and life like
they have so many athletes and so many people in
the public eye. Yeah, I think just whenever, even like
celebrities who don't play into the tabloid ship, they love
to fucking then be like now, fuck it, we'll do

(01:02:52):
whatever the funk we want now person. If they don't
want to fucking pose and they want to keep their
life fucking private, then we'll fucking do whatever the fun
we can to create pain and something. Yeah, it's a
really odd relationship. And even with that Venus Williams quote,
you know, you don't arrive there because you were there,
like that day one that always you've been through so
much ship already and you've already had especially when she

(01:03:15):
came out before Serena and Serena became like the IT
player and everyone's like, what happened to Vena? You know
what I mean? Can you imagine the fucking seth like
having to read all these stories like is Venus Williams
even relevant or whatever? Yes, she is, and that you
have she's just number two, like when you're just pitting
her against her sister, like yeah, and like developing having
to develop this skin already from you know, having to

(01:03:37):
already operate an environment where they're trying to create all
these wild narratives to get to whether it's to funk
with you or just because it's easier, just great commentary
around it. And I think, yeah, it's I'm curious to
see if there's any kind of evolution in like sports journalism,
especially like as it just pertains to this to see
if there is a way where they can feel like, okay,
we can we we can find a way to work

(01:03:58):
with this. I don't know if they can, and been
considering the you know, sympathy that we've seen on display
from the organizers of the French Open. I don't know,
but yeah, worth looking into. I just like, this is
no disrespect to any player we've discussed yet. But again,
as someone who doesn't follow that much sports, but when
I hear interviews with athletes, I'm always like, this is

(01:04:23):
boring and bad and like, how is it you know,
to win? Off? All good? You know, it's really good. Yeah,
how is it to lose? You know, we tried our
best out there. Anyway, leave me a lot, like what
are you getting? These are not this is not what
they do. By the smartest thing they can do is
give the most boring answers possible, which makes them look

(01:04:45):
like an idiot, which again is like it's a situation
for athletes, Like it's like, no, they very well could
be very interesting, intelligent people who have something interesting to say.
That ship will come out in their book many years
after they retire because they're not gonna fucking give you
what you want. Like no, and you but you can't

(01:05:06):
be too interesting. Just give them a little something, but
not too interesting because you have If you have big opinions,
they're gonna they will clobber you for that. We have
a little bit to say, if you have any shade
to throw, if you have any critique, don't have a critique.
Never have a critique. Which is so funny because the
sports reporters and analysts, that's all they do is critique. Yeah,
let them do it, that's what they do. Yeah, right, Yeah,

(01:05:28):
I mean the same thing. Like Marshawn Lynch was just
kind of like he had to adopt a mindset. He's like,
y'all come here and I'll fulfill the thing. But he
was very unequivalental and being like when I when I
leave here, I don't go into looking at a Twitter
or the the news to see what y'all are saying
about me. I go and I live my life at
home with the people that know me, that know who

(01:05:51):
I am, and I don't really have to explain ship
to them because they know me and I don't know
what you guys want me to say, but I'm not
gonna say it. I'm just gonna be here to whatever,
give whatever answer I want to give. But that's my
proget I showed you what I wanted to say, was
what I showed you out there on the field or
the I don't know, they were talking about the field, right, yeah, yeah,

(01:06:14):
all right, Francesca. It has been such a pleasure having
you as always. Um Where can people find you and
follow you? Oh? Hey, watch or listen to the Bituation
Room podcast We stream live every Sunday five eight Eastern.
We're having one of the Daily Zy producers, Anna has
Naya on on this Sunday and yeah, follow me at

(01:06:36):
franci Fio on Twitter and Instagram. Yeah yeah. And is
there a tweet or some of the work of social
media you've been enjoying? I really love This was by
Jake Flores, comedian who in terms of the Ellie Kemper stuff,
he writes, I have decided to address the recent revelation
that I was in a neo fascist Kincana. Hey we've

(01:07:02):
all been there. Yeah, ship miles. Where can people find you?
What's a tweet you've been enjoying? Find me, Twitter, Instagram
at Miles of Gray. Also check out the other podcast,
but you check out of Twitch dot tv Slash four
two zero Day Fiance. Um, let's see a couple tweets.
I'll like, oh, there was one, Jack, I know you

(01:07:24):
liked it too, but since I get to say my
leg first, I'm gonna say it bullshit. This is from
at Jay Zucks Trash Jones tweeting she'll text you back, man,
just screenshot in your message and send it to her
friend with the caption yikes, don't worry. And then um,
another one is from Ellie Creman Doll and my saying

(01:07:46):
that Wright's a crime and doll you know'say Cremen doll
um Eli Creman doll at Eli Cremendal tweets if God
hates queers, how come we don't have to pretend to come?
And that's a very good question. Unless when at Curtis Underscore,
cook says, because all these Spotify posts have been coming
out like where they're like, oh this is your moment,
Curtis Cooks says, Spotify is begging you all to go

(01:08:08):
to therapy. And that was a very interesting thing to
to read. Good analysis you can find me on Twitter
at Jack Underscore, O'Brien a couple tweets. I've been enjoying
tiff at It's me your mom tweeted pintrist girls be
like I'm getting married in a barn, but the barn
is made of reclaimed barnwood from a different barn um.

(01:08:33):
The uh cancel of Landsbury tweeted all people in media
do is announced their leaving jobs at websites so sad
uh and whitmer to was tweeted, why is every person
in a small town wearing a knee brace? Great question?
Oh and finally at Sarah Hog tweeted, cut my sweats

(01:08:57):
in two pieces. These are my oh merg shorts or
summer shorts actually because anyways, you can find me at
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zeke guys dot com, where post our episodes and our
footnotes where we link off to the information that we
talked about in today's episode, as well as a song
that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what is today's recommendation?
Oh man? I was just because that Spotify thing where
it is telling you like your like, this is your vibes,
and it was all over the place. It was like

(01:09:40):
Schoolboy que Pote and the Gap Band were like some
of my artists. I'll just saying, you know what, let's
let's let people know if you don't look for all
the young people out there, you gotta get into the
Gap Band. Okay, if you like Uncle Charlie, you know
what I mean, you gotta funk with the Gap Band.
You might probably know like you dropped a bomb on
me and should like that. But obviously they're big it outstanding.

(01:10:01):
It's a song that you probably have heard, but you
really need to play and it's a wonderful thing to
have played through the house throughout the weekend. So you
know what, this is outstanding by the Gap Band. Yeah,
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