The Real AI Singularity Already Happened, Hallmark Not MAGA Enough? 11.21.22

In episode 1377, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian, Steven Wilber, to discuss… Oh no!!! Same SEX AND INTERRACIAL MARRIAGE?! Hallmark-style Christmas Movies... But MAGA, FTX Collapse, Effective Altruism And How Money Controls The Truth In America and more!

1. Hallmark-style Christmas Movies... But MAGA
2. Candace Cameron Bure faces backlash after announcing ‘traditional marriage’ project
3. GLAAD and ‘Full House’ Star Jodie Sweetin Condemn Candace Cameron Bure Over LGBTQ Exclusion
4. The Gays Have Been Banned From Christmas (Movies)
5. Candace Cameron Bure Opens Up About Fight With Raven Over Anti-Gay Controversy
6. Commentary: A new TV network wants to make Christmas great again. Why its message is a harmful one
7. FTX Collapse, Effective Altruism And How Money Controls The Truth In America
8. A New Cable Channel Wants to Make Christmas Movies ‘Safe’ Again

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to sixty four,
Episode one of Dirt Day. Yeah, it's a production of
I Heart Radio. What do you say about the white screen?
They tried to Dean scream again and the marstream media
has lost their powers of assassination. They couldn't they couldn't

(00:25):
quite get betterman taken down more like the lame Dean media. Yeah,
lame Dean media. It was funny because like Howard Dean
was like this the first outsider candidate and then he
just like went on to be the head of like
the d n C. He was like the most the
most mainstream of democrat. Anyways, Hey Miles, this is a

(00:46):
podcast where we're taking deep to have a new American's
share consciousness, is it now? That's fun right? Yeah, I'm
like that idea. It is Monday, November one, two, first
day of Black Friday Week. Happy first, Happy first night
of Black Friday. Thank you, the only holiday we celebrate
around here. Yeah. It's also a World Television Day. World

(01:10):
Television went wrong there, World Hello Day, National Gingerbread Cookie Day,
National Stuffing Day, I can get behind that, and National
Red Mitten Day for Canadian Olympic Pride. M m I guess, Okay,
is that really what it is? Yeah? Apparently it's probably
like some marketing thing because like, how is this I mean, look, no, no,

(01:34):
shade of Canada. I mean fantastic people, fantastic winter. Looking.
It wasn't Hello Day very recently or international Hello Jay.
Probably like there's so many fucking different ones. It's probably
like national Hello Day. Nationals say Hello Day. You know
what I mean, Like there's permutations of the name concept,
which is just engaged with other human beings on planet.

(01:56):
What if that was like a really fit triolic take
against the use of the word. They're They're like, no,
funck Hi, you gotta be the full word. I don't
get high, I get hello. That's right. My name is
Jack O'Brien, a k white thigh soggy fries, lace x,
fixed miles eyes, over rated, under rated guests. There justester
restated twiddlers, red Vine, sweet tarts, ever Mainard hates farts.

(02:20):
Liz trust is a Twitter free jack Hsnel on Twitter.
Kanye West is in saying Christy Yama, Gucci Mane, Subway tune,
I might have turtles r H C p K. How
am I get to Lambo? I think that you're a
tough guy. Ever asked yourself? Why here on the Daily

(02:41):
Zai Geist, things are pretty great, but it's second rate.
I rate. I'm ray that's crazy right to post and
he gave it to me on Twitter, that old, that
old format still holding strong might no longer exist as
part of me suspects the whole thing of like Twitter's

(03:03):
gone tomorrow is a little overblown, but maybe not gonna
it seems like everyone doesn't work there anymore. We'll remember
when you get the whale screen back in the day.
It's gonna be a lot of that to start off.
You know, I don't think you're gonna go and like
sudden it's like, oh, your phone doesn't support this app.
Who knows if he's trying to shield himself bankruptcy, whatever, it's.

(03:26):
It's a whole fucking mess out there. It's a whole
fucking mess out there, and I'm thrilled to be joined
in here by my co host, Mr Miles Miles Gray
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subway to know has got him? Can't ride a dirigible
fork free? How are you get to a level? Ghinea

(03:49):
White Queen that now with skinned bagg Is King and
in now Frince Rise, no for limping. Go ask that
punk if he's a tough guy. I'll bet anger management
made him cry okay out out to Fighter of the
night Man on the Twitter or no, that's a discord
for the r h c p K. That's too Fighter
of the night Man r c p ks. I see

(04:10):
more in the line. But thank you for that. Oh yeah,
get ready, get ready, motherfuckers. People I can't stop just
seems to have the easiest like cann't stop. Yeah, the
Cadence works people are like, yeah, yeah, I can work
with that. It's not too offbeat or anything like that.
So yeah, we found you got the voice down well.
Miles Weird throwed to be joined in our third seat
by very funny writer, graphic designer, illustrator, one of the

(04:33):
funniest stand ups doing it. His album sixteen Bits is
available wherever fine comedy albums can be streamed. And we
don't usually do content warnings, but I got a warning you.
This guy's it's a little twisted. His brain is pretty
I don't know, it's not like it's not your grandpa's brain.

(04:53):
This guy's a little I don't know if you've ever
heard of the joker? This guy's this gout have been
Joker five. Please welcome brilliant, the talented Stephen Wilbur. Let's
try nice, try guys, and uh see what you're have
to do. Pump me up with that whole kilker stuff.

(05:13):
We want to see how I got these emotional scars.
Want me to do something fun like that. But it's
been not too long since I've been on the show,
and I wonder why that is. You've been You've been
interrogating us ever since you got on, asking like who dropped? Why?

(05:36):
Why am I back? Can it just be that we
really like you. We want the mayor of We want
the mayor of Rocu City here. I wish, I wish
it was that simple. I wish I could come in
here and talk about Roccu, the Roccus City, Abo sity A,
about sy I wish I could. I wish I could
do system of the Down parodies. But no. The fact

(05:57):
is the last time I was on here, we had
a fun little riff session. About that time Aaron Carter
beat Shaquille O'Neil at a game about one and then
a few days later, who passed away? Spoiler. It wasn't
shock and I don't want to be a part of

(06:22):
your little like sick audio version of death note where
I come on and use five powers to eliminate people
on your poop list. So I'm just gonna I'm just gonna.
I know I talked a lot already, but I'm just gonna.
I'm not gonna go anything anywhere. I'm not gonna talk
about anything. If I talk about anything, it's only gonna

(06:44):
be about let us just superrated Elvis, underrated Aliyah. Like
that's what That's what I've people on today's episode evoke
JFK Jr. Saw the people that went to Deely plot
again for off the strength of the Q are going
to be like, he's back. What if we have the

(07:05):
reverse power? Yeah, let's try to bring people back this episode.
Let's do a fun riff about Junior. Yeah, I've already
spilled my blood in accordance with the blood decrees that
we signed. So you spit your blood. I gotta say,
man that you you brought up the shack Nick Carter

(07:26):
thing to end to the point there. I didn't even
Aaron Carter. Yeah, Aaron Carter My back to the point
that I didn't even know his fucking name just then,
just now. But also I didn't I didn't know about
that song. I had to go watch the video. So
I don't know if this is I don't know if
this is some attempt to lay the groundwork for your defense.

(07:49):
But did I Heart Radio tell you in a memo
to gaslight me today that the gaslight special for wilbur
Let's that is how they start off every day. It's
just streets with this gas light him the gas like
spend show night. Great to have you back. All right, Well, Stephen,

(08:16):
we're going to get to know you a little bit better.
We're gonna tell our listeners a couple of the things
that we're talking about today. We're gonna talk about the
right wing response to the Senate moving to defend gay
marriage and interracial marriage. And they are like what there.
They think they're like big mad in a way that

(08:38):
suggests they think everybody's with them on this one, even
Ben Shapiro. We're gonna get to. It's the rare treat
where we get to hear from Ben Shapiro, so we'll
check in with him. Rare treat. We're going to check
in with the effective altruism movement, which is starting to
get a lot of attention after the collapse of f
t X. Effective altruism is this like philosophical utilitarian system

(09:04):
of ideas that like really started from a good place.
It was all about like how do we do the
most good? And it started with likely using analysis, yeah yeah, yeah,
and then it got infected by capitalism, and so I
just want to talk about that, talk about how FTX
is collapses being covered first of all, and then just

(09:25):
talk about the all corrupting influence of of capitalism. And
then we're gonna talk about some Hallmark Christmas movies because
there's there's been a schism. No, what do you mean
making a Hallmark Candice Cameron Burr. You don't have to

(09:47):
mention her, but I'm going to she she made headlines
for like saying, nah, Hallmark is to woke for me.
So we're gonna talk about that play more. But first,
Powerful Steve, we do like task our guests, what is
something from your search history corn flower smell? Corn flowers smell?

(10:12):
What's like this this like the scent of a corn flower?
I just wanted to know if it had one, what
is that like it grows from corn, Like we're talking
about the flower the like cooking flour made from corn,
I'm talking Are you talking about the you are or

(10:34):
f l O W E R? Or are we talking
about centaurya syanis? I'm talking about the perfume made by
Jonathan Davis. No, I'm talking about the So, dude, what
would that? What would Jonathan Davis? Is corn inspired? Fucking

(10:55):
coloone smell? I don't know, but I'd call it recon
a wesh ago there we go. No, the flower, I
don't know why it's called Oh it was a weed
in Cornfield. I guess wikipedia, did you are? You like
walking past them pretty frequently and you never had the

(11:15):
courage to smell it, So you're like, let me try
the Internet before I stick my nose in another flower.
That's gonna make me sneeze. I think, just as a
creative type, when I think of a flower like corn flower,
something about it. It's got a very cellar door quality
to me, Like, I love just corn flower as a

(11:35):
as a word. So I just kind of want to
know if I were to drop that in something saying
that it had a smell. Damn, I right, my right
was saying and I saw that there were some corn
flower like perfume things, so I assume it must have
some sort of unless the corn flower served as some

(11:55):
sort of binding agent for the perfume. Yeah, I can
see that being in a novel, like a art novel
like corn the the color of the sky painted the
color of corn flower or something like that, you know,
the corn Flower Murders. A Jack Gray Mystery You written

(12:18):
by Stephen Wilber forward by Norah Roberts right the end
of the end of Cornflower Road. This sounds of sounds
like another one too, a memoir. There's a news splash.
Mont Santo is just taking out all corn flowers. Holy shit,
that's crazy to lind up like that. Mmmm alright was

(12:41):
too close to the Yeah, like what you did, like
what you did with your powers again, this is like
the time I was on Rogan and talked about bees that.
I feel like that could be a like shitty Stephen

(13:02):
King short story is like person who goes on podcasts
because he just had that one where it's like magic
cell phone that kills people when you leave a voicemail.
Four dead guy like right right, yeah, death curse, death
Caste and death cast for cutie. Yeah, what is something

(13:28):
you think is overrated? Let's be honest. Twitter m hm
oh go wow wow hit him with it, Stephen, what's
going on over there? Oh you want to hear some realty? Yeah,
between you and me and the wall. Uh, it's not
looking so great. Watch by the time this comes out,

(13:51):
you might have actually killed I know, like you've really
you're really flying close to the sun right now. Man, y'all,
if this comes out Monday and you are getting the
whale ship on your on your browser phone, Stephen, is
there like a po box that can send you veiled threats? Uh?
Not just a tweet tweet? Okay, okay, okay, there you go. Yeah.

(14:12):
Are you are you looking at the like, how are
you experiencing the end of Twitter? Or like the Twitter
freakouts that are happening on the platform. You're just like watching?
Are you? Do you feel compelled to say things? Because
when I look at Twitter, it reminds me of like
having senior itis in high school, where I'm like, yeah, man,
a lot of these people are getting like sappy about
this ship. I'm ready to go, you know, and I'm

(14:34):
high every day in class and because I don't give
a funk if the teacher's catch me this time. But
I do feel like it is sad though, because I'm like, well,
I don't want it to go away, but also I
don't have the energy to express any of it. Like
my Twitter feed is. Most times something happens, it is
all just comedians doing their jokes about it and anything

(14:57):
I could possibly think of to say funny somebody on
the East Coast, Yes, yeah, yeah, I'm like that would
have been good growing down, like, oh that's funny. Yeah,
I mean that's not funny. One thought I had was like,
if it's really going down, just changed my avatar and
just go mask off a o L chat room troll

(15:19):
like on ignorant people like when I used to have
that kind of energy. But I was like, I don't.
I don't need a dabble in that. But I just
see some I'm an old man. I'm an old man
now I've learned. You know, it's not it's not worth
what what what would you do with your I don't
even know, man, I I don't know. Like I look
at my drafts and ship and I'm like wow, wow, yeah.

(15:40):
Times I've withheld like fucking atomic blasts on on threads
and ship. But it's like again, I think it's mostly
to do with the fact that the dangerous part for
me was getting too caught up in like it being
uh purely like for my ego expression on Twitter, and
I was like, yeah, I like larking. I'll do that
healthier me. Very larking, Yeah, very larking. What Stephen is

(16:04):
something you think is underrated? Honestly betraying Twitter? No? Um,
vodka mm hmm uh huh. A lot of people ride
on vodka, and I think we should appreciate it a
little more. It's like the blank canvas for a lot

(16:24):
of great drinks. Like it's like turkey. Turkey, you can
seize in turkey with everything. It's like delicious and like
it's like turkey your chicken. Yeah, you just like you
put anything on it. It's like a turkey. Do I
eat a lot of turkey? Yeah? I'm a sleepy boy,

(16:47):
old baby ball. A lot of people, a lot of
people like buy expensive tequila so it will taste like vodka. Like, bro,
it's so all this clean good. It tastes like drinking nothing. Yeah,
that's the most vodka guy, right, are you big like

(17:09):
drink connoisseur. You like cocktails and things like that. Oh god, no,
just pulled that one out of thinner. I love I
love a Moscow mule. That I mean, who did it
twelve years ago? Rude? Wow, I'm a guest. I'm a guest.

(17:29):
People with my voice. Okay, never mind, never mind, never mind. Yeah, yeah,
Moscow mules, real good, real good. Vodka, vodka, vodka, Twitter,
Moscow mules, those copper mugs, they've vanished. Go look in
your cabinets. They're gone, folks, They're gone. Were you sent
by the CIA to destabilize Russia? Do you think? Is that?

(17:50):
Is that? What this is coming down? Anywhere? This is
all just over zoomed. Could I caught an email They
were like, hey, wako for I'll cover to the computer
rag on Russia a little bit. You don't even need
to put on pants. Cool, and then we'll send you
an Amazon gift card. Yeah. It's like the idea stranger

(18:12):
things are just always about, like eleven would actually grow
into what Stephen. What we're saying Stephen is is a
person who goes on podcasts and can kill people. That's
the whole That's what the whole lead up to Stranger
Things is really about preventing eleven from being able to
go on podcasts and get those takes off that kill people.
H h, I'm actually I'm twelve. Oh okay, it's cute,

(18:36):
um because it says it's a Stephen number. All right,
let's go on, get on to the Yeah, that's good stuff.
Yeah twelve. Sure you don't want to tweet that? Man?

(19:03):
Yeah it get it in under the wire a somebody
already did three hours ago. Alright, let's take a quick
break and we'll be right back. And we're back. And

(19:34):
so is same sex marriage even in a racial marriages
back in the spotlight like it nevertheless, it's back. Yeah,
there of it over here. That's how I expressed that,
Like I'm having marital troubles is I'm like, uh, interracial

(19:54):
marriage guys, not great. I'm the poster boy that they hire.
I'm like, I'm telling you, guys, you don't to do it.
My life is terrible because my parents so reckless, not
sticking with their own. But yeah, the ever since the
Senate moved the Respect for Marriage Act to a vote, uh, like,
it's just been full freak outs on the right. I

(20:15):
feel like the last ten days or so, has been
just a lot of like Republicans and like people in
the mainstream who are like, wait, the status quo as
we saw it isn't what what what? What's happening here?
They're like utterly confused. The first guy, Brian Brown, who's
like the head of this hate group, the National Organization

(20:36):
for Marriage, is so angry about what happened. He wrote
this email to like all of the people who are
you know, supporters of this hate crew said, quote sadly
and tragically, the United States Senate, with the collusion of
twelve turn quote Republican senators who portrayed their party platform
and the votes of fifty million Americans who enacted state

(20:57):
constitutional amendments defining marriage as the union of one man
and one woman, have voted to impose same sex quote
unquote marriage on the nation. This is a very confused.
A couple m dashes, but that's a run on sentence,
my friends. Yeah, well that's look when you come when
when you're here, that mad I guess. Yeah, grammar goes

(21:18):
out the window when you're so filled with hate. Now,
this isn't the Brian Brown, Australian actor who played Tom Cruises,
sense in Cocktail, right, you know, I don't think it's
the same. It's not. It's not the guy from fx
F F X two. No, no, no, I thought that
was Michael Caine in both of those cases. Yeah, he

(21:40):
does look like to crack Michael Kane. He's like, yeah,
he's the kind of guy owns up on Nathan for
you saying he's a Michael Caine impersonator and you're like, yeah,
and this guy is kind of weird. He was an Aussie.
But it's all good. That is Steven. Like for somebody
who came on and say, you're not going to get
me to talk about people who might die, Wow, Brian

(22:04):
Brown is alive if I talk about older people. Yeah,
it's like that wasn't me. Okay, uh, well we'll see
bucks like Aaron Carter. It's like, oh yeah, that's right.
Great responsibility. This letter goes on to say this is
a very disappointing development. It feels like a punch in

(22:24):
the gut from people who regularly portrayed themselves as conservatives
and people of faith, yet who have voted with the
radical homosexual lobby and the most extreme elements of the
Democrat Party that we intend to hold them accountable. At
the end, he's like, we need donations to man and
there's like a thing like at the bottom says donate

(22:46):
crypto too, really, but it says you can donate in crypto. Yeah,
the sign off it's like donated, donate and he says
donate crypto here, It's like, wow, like I stam on
top of a scam if to have a paper trail, right, yes,
that the is that I haven't donated crypto in a

(23:09):
long time. Like, is that who's still mainly in the
crypto is like people being people who are like, yeah,
you'll probably be ashamed by this. So I don't even
know what what the point of that is. I think
it's just sort of like they're they're going all out.
Also think because a lot of the thinking is look,
usually when this many people, like you know, get it

(23:29):
to a vote, it means they got the votes to
pass it for the final vote. Unless we can get
to enough people in the House of Representatives, please give
me a hundred thousand dollars because you hate people getting
married to who they love anyway, then one of the
like televangelist, former spiritual adviser to Donald Trump has just

(23:50):
been like I think just seeing everything whither away from
like the abortion SmackDown to the then like the Senate
pushing through, the respect for mayor of Jack going just
guns blazing against Donald Trump, just saying it's just everything,
Like I think this version has had enough and said quote,
if Mr Trump can't stop his little petty issues, how
does he expect people to stop major issues? Uh? And

(24:12):
goes on to just talk about how he acts like
an elementary or elementary school child, and you know, his
focus on like these smaller issues completely betrayed, like the
momentum that the evangelical movement had, etcetera, etcetera. So you know,
I think it's, yeah, they're having a little bit of
a hard time, and his it sort of boils down
to he's just feeling like if he wasn't such a

(24:34):
piece of ship, they would have been able to do
more harm. Denonsis head Christians, what does it take to
call yourself an advisor for a president? You like a meeting?
A single meeting. Yeah, That's why I like, there's so
many people who are yeah yeah, put that on, put

(24:56):
that on their CV. It's like, what did you here
next to them? Is there a red phone? On his desk,
or I feel like it's like that lie I would
hear like jen X or boomers say, like in the
early two thousands, or they're like I used to be
a roadie for this band back in the day, and
they'd like tell you some lie and you're like, how
do we like, I can't even verify that, and something

(25:16):
like dude, that guy's was never a fucking roadie for
or like Bran who are brands who are the official
yarn of Nascar. Well they do that because they're the
they get exclusivity as a sponsor, and then they can't say, yes,
we're the only yarn who bothered to be like we
know our customers. Yarn Gang loves Nascar, of room from

(25:38):
they love Earnhardt's cars. It's just it again, the confused.
It's like a lot of confusion around what you hear
these conservatives say, like when it comes to what happened
with people actually you know, voting for an increased body
autonomy or the idea that like Republicans were also willing
to say, yeah, man, you can get married to whoever

(26:01):
the funk you want. It's just like the wheels are
spinning in this way that they just cannot get over
the idea that it's like it's it's always been a
losing strategy that we've only been able to stay relevant
through all the disingenuous like map fucking and things like that.
So I just want to hear from Ben Shapiro. I do,
and so we got him on the line, got him

(26:24):
Ben Shapiro's argument. He's like completely incense by this and
he's saying like, I don't know, he's just trying to
say it makes sense that only a man and a
woman assess man and assists woman get married to each other,
because fucking aliens can even see that, or I don't
hear that. Is this a new one, because I feel

(26:46):
like I've heard his arguments on the subject before. It's
that he's he's pretty in a pretty ideologically ignorant and
consistent with that ignorant, So yeah, you probably have. This
is him just screaming at Matt Wall. She was just like,
I'm not saying anything. Yeah, this recent Matt Walsh looks
like he's wearing a fake beard. So it's not the

(27:07):
Matt Walsh that it's not the Matt Walsh from UCB,
although it could end up being because this person is
clearly wearing a disguise. Okay, here, here, here we go.
I'm I'm highly annoyed by the constant derogation of non
religious arguments into religious arguments. And this is what the
left loves to do. They like to say, your prob life,
the reason your pro life is because of your your

(27:27):
crazy religion, and so yeah right, because you you you
say it yourselves when you say, why go because the
Bible sit huh? Okay? But or I I also like to,
you know, appeal to white supremacy as well. The other
thing that you seem to be would you rather that, Ben,
is that because that I do feel like the thing

(27:50):
you're railing against is actually the polite thing that the
polite mainstream media says is like, well, it's just their
religious beliefs. That's like them taking you at your Yeah,
yeah about it. Yeah, maybe we can respect your crazy
religion along the that that is not the argument from marriage.
The argument from marriage has literally nothing to do with religion.
You could be a visitor from from Mars and you

(28:12):
could see that all of human procreation relies on man,
woman child. This is not particularly difficult stuff, but essentially
boxing in the argument in favor of traditional marriage into well,
if you're a crazy religious believe or maybe we'll let
you have that. But you know, if you're if you're
baking it, if you're a cake baker, then we're not
sure about that, right, I mean, like we're not sure
how far this this religious liberty thing extends. What you're
really doing is you're setting the ground game at same

(28:34):
sex marriage and traditional marriage are completely the same thing,
and if you object to it, the only reason that
we even allow you to do that is because of
this crazy thing called religion. Anyway, there pack, but you
have to believe there completely the same thing in order
to argue against Ben Shapiro. They're completely the same thing. Yeah, Oh,
did you see Matt Walsh freaking out because the men's

(28:55):
the US men's national team for the World Cup are
like including a rain like a rain bow spectrum on
the like the crest of the men's team because cutters
so like just violently homophobic. He wouldn't believe that they
would do that. It's like just shut up full like,
you know, welcome to the mid terms. Didn't quite have
me over the edge, but now I think we can

(29:16):
officially say we've won with the with the rainbows on
the on the World Cup. I think I think we
we can just paying attention to dub you guys lost.
I saw that Target had dog toys that said yes
Queen like two years ago, and I was like, oh, yeah,

(29:39):
I can tune out. That was the tip of the spirit, Stephen,
that was the tip of the spirit. But we're it's
been a systematic movement to get to this point where
the rainbows are on the uniforms. Yeah, I just were
It's like this whole week has just been people and
like their insulated echo chambers, like actually being confronted with

(30:01):
what like like majorities look like and they're like what
the fuck, Like whether that's like Elon Musk not knowing
how any this ship works, or these be like the
fun But I thought y'all wanted the blue check I
thought the thing was you saw the blue check is
being like a college degree, and if I democratize that,
then you it would all be great. And they're like, no,

(30:23):
you're just all the people that you that are like
your suck ups just hate people, like really just hate
the journalists that have blue check marks. Rather than the
like practice of having you verified accounts. You haven't heard
from a person giving you objective facts in the past,
I don't know, fifteen years or since your dad said
he didn't love you or something like, Yeah, that was

(30:45):
the last objective because you're a bad kid man, because
you're just like a bad gross person. You're bad. Yeah,
you are bad. That. But that thing that tells you
that at the core of your soul it makes you
be this way is actually correct. But that's the one
kind of locusts of truth that you have inside your
whole being. But the the other thing that he got

(31:07):
big wrong this week was or last week was when
he was like ultimatum, put up or shut up. If
you're not on board with me, then you're out my
way or the highway by tomorrow. And then like as
it was coming and nobody had signed on with this thing,
he was like, I mean, my my bad, my bad.
Actually everybody just resigned. And now he's like, come by

(31:32):
Twitter to like tell me about code you wrote, like
it would be great if you can fly in obviously,
if you can't consume, I don't I don't know if
I'm gonna cover those costs, but get your ass in here, Okay,
of course not. Yeah, it's it's it's big bad Well
on the subject of just you know, complete and total

(31:54):
victory in the world of culture, you know, and our
long term strategy to just make it so nobody can
be a Christian ever again, and that Christmas is a
word that you can't even say punishable by death. Candice
Cameron Burr made headlines all over the world for being

(32:15):
an asshole. So this I hadn't really thought about her
for a long time because my favorite told me, they
were like, you gotta stop man your therapist Jody Sweeten. Yeah,
I didn't. So she's Kirk Cameron's sister. Is that that
like made sense of the story? You dn't. No, I

(32:35):
just had forgotten it, like I remembered it back then,
but like as this came up and I was like, wait,
oh right, she's part of that whole thing. So they're
a straight to crackle Jason and Justine Bateman. Yeah. So
she used to start in lots of Hallmark Channel holiday movies,
but left to star in movies for the newer conservative

(32:58):
Christian network Great I'm American Family, and she brought two
of her full house stars with her, including aunt Becky
herself Laurie Laughlin, and so this is this is a
big deal. You know, she's she she's a soldier in
the culture culture war. She's she's ready to put her
life and career on the line by taking a huge

(33:19):
pay day. Thank you for your service, ma'am. But Great
American Family describes itself as a channel celebrating faith, family,
and country and is owned by a company started by
Bill Abbott, who was the guy who was running Hallmark
when they refused to run an ad on their network
that had the same sex marriage in it. So okay, yeah, yeah,

(33:43):
probably the era when you couldn't have magic in Hallmark films.
That probably lines up with this guy's philosophy. Okay. So
Hallmark have made efforts to diversify their Christmas movies with
several movies featuring gay couples in recent years, and Candice
Cameron's comments were condemned by everyone from Glad to Stephanie

(34:04):
Tanner herself Jody Sweeten, Yeah, my therapist Stephanie Tanner for
her honestly, Yeah, I was like, I assumed she was
one of the ones that they had brought over. But
it seems like she she's come come around, you know, Yeah,
She did not say how rude because that wasn't her line, right,
not even that that was how rude. Okay, yeah, that's

(34:29):
why I picture one of the Olsen twins and no,
that's you got it. She said, you got it or
you got it? Mr Yea to stop stop, don't talk
about the Olsen Twins. I went to school with them,
and yeah, you did to dance with one of them
one years. That was a huge deal. When I when

(34:52):
I was like in college and I guess you were
in high school. I visited my friends in l A.
And they were going to a party that one of
the Olsen twins were at, and it was like a
big deal to everyone. They're like, oh my god, the
Olsen twins. So you must have been Mr king ship
Man going to a dance with one of the Olsen twins.
I don't know. I think I was just like a cool,

(35:14):
like chat boy of color at the school, and you know,
it just made them look cool. I don't know, you know,
that's my own self worth. I'm working through a therapy.
Why did why did they learn with me? I don't know.
I know I think about a party, a party with
the Olsen twins, like in my head, I'm like, oh,
the met gallup, Yeah, that would be pretty cool. Or

(35:36):
it's like when it's it's like a party like you've
never fucking experienced and you don't know if it's like
fun or totally weird and boring when you was a documentary,
like everyone's wearing newspaper masks and humming this one melody
like huh, but yeah. So she issued a non apology,

(35:58):
blaming the press and painting herself was the victim of
a toxic media system which falsely sought to sob division
by reprinting the thing she said, which I let let
me did I read her quote? Let let me make
sure I have it okay. So she came under fire
because in an interview in The Wall Street Journal, she
said that Gaff's Christmas content would only feature traditional marriage,

(36:24):
the traditional family of yes, the traditional family, of course
being three kids, one dad, his former college roommate, plus
his dead wet drum playing brother, and his entire family
all crammed into an attic. I think sometimes, and I
don't know if you saw the thing. There was this
video that was kind of blown up on the internet

(36:44):
about how there's this big plot hole in full House
where Uncle Jesse talks about dropping out of high school,
but then he said he didn't like in later episodes
and this guy like his mind was blown, and for
sixteen years he was trying to contact the writers of
Full House to be like, you know, like you said
he dropped out of high school in season two, right,
and like it's like a really interesting video, but they

(37:06):
know the guys Jesse, Uncle Jesse's a fault, so you
can drop out of high school and go on to
go to college. Like yeah, yeah, well there's uncle Jesse.
Seems like the type of person that he could have
like been valedictorian and but wouldn't tell anybody because that
undercover smart guy I didn't want to, Yeah, because he's

(37:26):
got this Yeah he went to m I T. Dude,
it's like the guy from the Offspring. He's really yeah.
But anyways, like that, you know, this shouldn't be that surprising,
the act of making a bigoted Christmas movie. You should
be the Cameron family crest at this point. But you know,

(37:46):
she once defended the Oregon bakery that illegally refused to
bake a wedding cake for a lesbian couple, So yeah,
she's not she's not for the rights of very many
people or she's for the rights of a very special
of a group of people. Yeah. Yeah, and she's also
just you know with that that whole family is you know,

(38:06):
all in on homophobia, especially her brother. So the Tanners, Yeah,
the whole family has really gone to ship oh Candice.
But again it's like there was another one where she's
like posted a thing where she's like on TikTok where
she's like, am I the feeling like kind of like
trying to like troll people about like what her you know,
bigoted stance was. But it's like, you're, I don't know,

(38:30):
she's she's she's only relevant in that she was in
a seminal show for a lot of people's childhoods. Other
than that, it's not like you're talking about like a
real mover and shaker. So it's like, I don't know, Miles,
her acting talent is undeniable. I think it's kundeniably awful. Yes,
talk about her personal life all you want, But for me,

(38:50):
game recognized game and I can't was the weak point
in a cast that was not was not full of
you know, the world grace actors. Somehow two of the
cast members that were incoherent babies ended up becoming the
bigger stars on that show. And we're much more talented
and gave more convincing performance, a better fashion sense to

(39:12):
you know, way cooler when looking or when way cooler
looking when they smoke cigarettes at a young age. And
in case it's not clear to you what safe means
in this case, last year, like that their definition of
what safe and traditional family. Last year they made twelve
Christmas movies gaff and all but one centered on straight

(39:34):
white characters. So wow. The other was a white savior
story and one one of the company's bankrolling The channel
belongs to a Republican National Committee co chairman and Donald
Trump tamers fan, although that could be said about probably
every company in the country. Yeah, check out Warner Discovery Plus.

(39:57):
You know you're gonna get some interesting stuff there. They
even have a talking point about like, these are safe
movies that value quote American culture and quote heritage. So
heritage is one of those words that it's like, oh,
you're like, you're trying to disguise it, but really not
not much. Yeah. Yeah, our heritage, as you know, violent

(40:18):
colonizers are heritage of putting the Confederate flag on the
on the orangetop Hazzard car, like, hey, hey, we're not
gonna slander that beautiful vehicle on this show. American culture, heritage,
and lifestyle like those are my favorite ingredients and fashionism.

(40:43):
All right, let's take a quick break and we're gonna
come back and talk about effective altruism. What could be
wrong with that? End? We're back and ft X collapse.

(41:04):
Ft X was like a crypto exchange. It was the
it was the big boy. It was the one with
the Larry David commercial for for US crypto outsiders who
haven't donated crypto in months. Like I had mentioned earlier,
it's it's the one with Larry David commercial and they're
all getting sued Tom Brady commercial and oh did you

(41:27):
know Tom Brady supposedly had like his entire portfolio tied
up in ft X. No, yeah, I would. That was
like I think right after like they did. It could
be a liar or whatever, but they said he was
like that's where he's like, He's like, yeah, and I
got all my money in ft X. Dude. He said

(41:47):
that after after it imploded or right before. This is
like before I feel like one of the like early on,
like before the way before the collapse, around the time
of the commercial, he was like raw rang, like how
great it is now? This is also the sort of
rumor you start spreading when you're in a divorce and
trying to give as little money as possible to You're

(42:12):
you're what are you talking about? I just saw you
in a literal rolex commercial in Forbes. Anyways, it collapsed.
I want to read about it. You know. The articles
are all like they start out with some sentences that
make you think they're gonna say this is endemic and
like this is why crypto is banks without insurance, and

(42:35):
it's just a way for people to steal money from you,
and it's it's got all the same problems as capitalism,
and then they immediately turned to so like here's the
Washington Post summary of it. But like other crypto exchanges,
ft X operated outside the traditional banking system, and this
created enormous risks. Though they act like banks and broker's,

(42:55):
crypto exchanges typically are not subject to the same type
of regulation, insurance and just closure rules that protect customers
of traditional banks. So a very like pro bank way
of like highlighting what's wrong with crypto? But then the
very next paragraph is like, at some level, the fall
of FTX is not a crypto story at all, says
Adam Levitton, a Georgetown University law professor principal at Gordian

(43:21):
Crypto Advisors. So it's like they say very clear thing,
very clear problems, and then back it up with some
expert from inside the world of crypto being like, crypto
is still a safe bet, folks, don't worry. It was
just this guy and the fact that he was in
the Bahamas, that like literally that his quotas people invested

(43:44):
billions in an unregulated financial institution based in a Caribbean island.
How could this end? Well, so it was the Caribbean.
Why yeah, the Bahamas, dude, Like think of the fire festival.
That's all that stuff happens there, right, you know, Jeff
for Epstein's island. So we know also that like first
paragraph you read, it's like it's amazing how it's like

(44:08):
it's so euphemistically describing a terrible fucking place to put
your money at any in any way like possible. It's
like it's like, imagine if you described a fucking hospital
like that. It's like, you know, although it comes with
enormous risks, they're not subject to the same regulations as
a hospital or safety guard. Right, You're like, hold on,
why don't you say this place is a fucking hell

(44:28):
escape that is just is basically a place to lure
people into getting swindled. But then no, but it's not
a great thought problem. So another big part of the
story is the Sam Bankman Freed's is that Yeah, did
I get that right? He So he's like the main
character that the media has settled on. He was like

(44:50):
the CEO, and he was like only twenty something, twenty
nine or thirty when he became the youngest billionaires. Yeah,
so he became a billionaire. He was like that. They
were like, he's leaps at the office because he's just
about his grind and that's the most American thing of all. Look,
he barely combs his hair. This guy is the best
and forget forget. The other part of his identity kit

(45:15):
was that he drove like a regular as Toyota Corolla. Yes,
and every single person was like, oh my god, dude,
this guy's a fucking billy and he's got a fucking
Corolla dog. That's the other big part of the story
is he was big in this movement. He was the
primary funder. I think we're the large one of the
fun of this movement called effective altruism, and the idea

(45:37):
is so it started with this like young philosophy professor
at I think Oxford, one of the colleges in the
UK that is the equivalent of Harvard and Stanford in America,
and that it is like, has a reputation as like
this super independent, left leaning learning institution, but it is

(45:59):
uh said, as a reputation as Hogworths. It's like Hogwarths. Yeah,
it is like yes, yes, but anyways, it also apparently
has a big, you know, contingent of people who immediately
go into investment, banking and finance. And so this dude

(46:20):
starts out and he's like he has this utilitarian philosophy.
That's like, okay, so the thing that we need to
do is get as many of the wealthiest people in
the world as possible to do as much good with
their money as possible. His first instinct was good. He
was like, okay, so I'm gonna look at all the
different funds that help people in poor and developing countries,

(46:44):
and you know, for like, his argument was basically like
you could go become a doctor and save hundreds of people,
or you could go become an investment banker and fund
like these funds that save thousands, hundreds of thousands of
people with donations, and like that that's where his mind

(47:05):
was at, and like you can see where he's at
in the early stages, and he gets Sam Bankman Freed
onto his side, which is why Sam Bankman freed like
drove a shitty car. Like everybody involved in this like
personally donates like almost all their money and but but
they're also very like finance brained. Yeah, well because a

(47:29):
lot of the people that go into there's like a
schism in the movement where a lot of people were
just thinking, Okay. The classic example is like mosquito nets
and how investing in mosquito nets can actually have widespread
effect in preventing like like uncounted deaths, like untold death
and by saying, hey, this is a cheap thing we
can do. It's scales and it helps a lot of people,

(47:51):
then it turns into this thing where people can either
be like you either got to be the only way
you get into it now is you gotta have some
kind of fucking dis run grass industry level like business
or something, or you earn to give Like, then your
mindset is make as much fucking money as you can
by any means possible, so you can put it into

(48:12):
effect of altruism is like, then that's when it starts
getting like, oh, so now we're rationalizing making a lot
of money. That's what this is now becoming yeah, and
then giving it away, which like, if you can convince
all these very wealthy people to give all their money
away to like things that actually help rather than to
like them thinking because like a big problem with like this.

(48:36):
This is similar to the philosophy of like a lot
of like billionaires in the United States where they're like, okay, well,
like I'll just become a billionaire and then I'll give
the money away rather than like letting the country text me.
The problem with that strategy is like rich people like
money the most. They like money more than anyone has
ever liked anything. And they once yeah, well they stand it.

(49:00):
Even so once they once they get a lot of it,
they are they actually become much less likely than they
thought they were at the beginning to give any of
it away. And to like in this case, you know,
with Sam Bankman Freed, like you're a dipship twenty nine
year old crypto billionaire who made billions of dollars off
of finding a way to defraud people like you have

(49:21):
absolutely no authority, no moral like structure at all, no
way of knowing where that money should go. You are
the product of a system that is predatory. You're going
to be surrounded by predators, so like you're not the
person to decide that. This movement, at least initially was like, well,
we you give our your money to us. I am

(49:42):
a smart philosopher who has like run the numbers. I
will take that money and put it in the smartest place. Unfortunately,
that philosopher king guy who originally like convinced him, he
spends like the next decade of his life with crypto
people and finance people, and he like just becomes very

(50:04):
I don't know, Like you can just see the way
that money infects the truth that are like you. Like,
for instance, they keep skipping over climate as a thing
to be worried about, and like his justification is like,
well a lot of climate groups aren't for cap and trade,

(50:25):
which is like, you know, you treat the climate crisis
like a stock market and it'll solve itself. Essentially. That's
his like first argument against it, and then the second one,
which is fucking wild they're like talking about. So eventually
they moved to this like near term its stuff like bednets,
And there's even a part where sand Bankman Freed is like,

(50:47):
I never really went through the bednets phase of this,
like because because that's all in motion how to use
your money efficiently for the greatest outcome, which that's all
emotionally driven miles and more with a long termist mindset, right,
And so he fun, what would I say, It's it's

(51:09):
like so fucking mind boggling and infuriating. Well, I mean,
you can't really care about the environment and be super
into crypto at the same time with how much damage.
But the idea too of being into long term is
m and ignoring the health of the planet, Like how

(51:29):
long is this term exactly that you're considering. Well, so
they start they're like now like, well, actually, when you
have like these small threats over a long enough time,
because the population is going to grow, investing a small
amount and a small threat now will actually have the
greater impact like years and years from now, but they
just have they have this outsized opinion of their own

(51:53):
ability to like know what the problems are going to
be in the two hundred years they so they fixate
instead of being fixating on climate change, they fucking fixate
on AI and like the terminator of Pucklyse, that's what
they're focused on. That's what they're like putting a lot
of their money into the So like this part in

(52:14):
the New York article that they say, this is a quote.
The major contributor to existential risk, according to them, was
not climate change, which even in a worst case scenario,
is unlikely to render the planet wholly uninhabitable. New Zealand,
for example, might be fine. Instead, he singles out engineered
pathogens and runaway artificial intelligence. And then I also want

(52:37):
to read a quote from somebody within this movement later on,
because that this also really informs this world view. Nick
be Stead, the philosopher at the Helm of the Future Fund,
remarked in his thirteen dissertation, richer countries have substantially more
innovation and their workers are much more economically productive by
ordinary standards, at least by ordinary enlightened human humanitarian standards,

(53:01):
Saving and improving lives in rich countries is about equal
is about equally as important as saving and improving lives
and poor countries, provided lives are improved by roughly comparable amounts.
But it now seems more plausible to me that saving
a life in a rich country is substantially more important
than saving a life in a poor country. So it's

(53:22):
Jonathan Swift. Yeah, but like they're open about this ship.
They're just like because then you can make more money,
which allows you to solve more problems. But it's just
they've been fucking they've been incepted by money, and like
that's that's the thing with the like all the writing
about f t X that I was just hit by
over and over again, is that until nobody can make

(53:45):
billions of dollars off of crypto, they won't write the
truth about crypto because in our society and our version
of capitalism, like hyper capitalism, that it's not just like
that they have a bias towards what may the most money,
it's that like what is going to make the most money,
like gravitationally pools, like their perception of what the truth is. Yeah,

(54:08):
because because like that is the thing that the business
section is going to write about, and that is the
thing that the owners of these newspapers are going to
care about. It's just like we're watching this thing where
we're saying the same thing over and over again, where
we're like, yeah, crypto seems like a scam. Everybody can
kind of look at it and see it's a scam,
and yet the mainstream media just keeps writing these fucking

(54:29):
gullible articles that are like these accounts of yeah, well
we don't know what happened. Again, it seems like maybe
this guy was crazy, and then like doing the New
York Times things like let's ask the cops, right, yeah,
like you're not gonna like get a real computer scientists
there to tell you how much of a fucking sham
crypto is in general, and then start your fucking analysis

(54:50):
from there to say, like, look at disaster after disaster,
at these companies showing up and becoming as the guy said,
this thing's worse than fun and ron, you know, like,
how are you then being like, yeah, this isn't a
crypto prom it is. It's unregulated, and so much of
the market is driven by these like whales trying to
get out now and normalize crypto use so they can

(55:12):
cash the funk out. And it's also like this other
thing too, where just like crypto, even within effect of altruism,
like if you were actively questioning like they would, they
they would have open forms and discuss things. But if
you were like actively questioning, like I think it's a
better way to do it, they kind of treated how
they would people who were like crypto, like fudd people
who are like being like, oh, you're just trying to

(55:33):
fucking so dis like you know, distrust and stuff, and
like you're not, You're not actually about this, You're a hater.
And again it further insulates itself from actually any critical
analysis of what they're doing. And it's like even the
momentum of Sam Bankman Freed is like this thing where
people get so caught up in this billionaire worship they
never for a second this guy is could be full

(55:55):
of ship, like the six hundred people that came before
him on the same thing, Like I've got this great idea.
I'm Elizabeth Holmes. Oh wait, it's bullshit. I'm Elon Musk. No,
You're like, no, this this is all this is all horseship.
You know by the way, commented on that philosopher like
leader guys last book, being like this book is actually

(56:17):
a pretty close match to my philosophy. So he's going
to be on the philosopher king. Yeah, as he now
tries to inseminate the planet. So there's many people with
his d n A running around, which is his end game.
It seems like, yeah, based on his love of Genghis Khan.
So but it is like really interesting that, like I
think there's something at a subconscious level that's happening because

(56:39):
they've fixated on the singularity and like this robot apocalypse
where the robots become like out of control, so much
smarter and they're thinking faster than us, and they decided
to kill us. Because that is like, actually, what is
happening with capitalism, Like the singularity has happened with care
When you are doing an analysis of human lives and

(57:02):
you're like the ones that make more money are the
ones that are more valuable, Like that you have completely
like the money has gotten in and is doing the
thinking for you, and you are no longer like the
singularity has happened, and it's very smart. It's a hyper
like machine, like you know, nanotechnology that is everywhere, and

(57:25):
it destroys any amount of like thinking, and like this
idea that started with like let's get bednets to people
who are suffering by inviting, by inviting like fucking investment
bankers to the conversation becomes this like thing that's all
about like just denying climate change is a problem, and

(57:48):
like focusing on spending money and things that can like
disrupt their you know, disrupt industries basically to generate more money.
It's just it just becomes another money making scheme. No no, no, no, no,
no no. You so like you just gotta get on
board with this stuff. Okay, so here me out. Okay,

(58:11):
we got that, we got these nets, old news, cold potatoes. Okay,
we put vaccines in the mosquitoes, I mean, hair down
the nets and unless now now the mosquitoes are mosquitoes
for good. Yeah yeah, send me, send me a doze,

(58:34):
send me everyone out there on radio land, and I
will I'll start start pumping these skeeters for horse horse medicine.
I think at the end of the day, it's just
it's anything that billionaires are engaging in too like rationalize
their wealth is just going to be corrupted. By the
fact that they're like engaged in this like massive accumulation

(58:57):
of wealth to begin with, because so many of them
are being like, Okay, Normally, I usually feel bad that
I know I'm just sucking up all the wealth out
of it like a given place. But now, but the
thing is, I'm actually doing it for effective altruism, where
I will fight the robots, so then it's okay, I'll
make so much robot money the robots won't be able

(59:18):
to have money. Exactly where are they gonna plug in
at night? Nowhere? Because I will be in poor robot
countries and we're not going to help those rot right.
The New York article is definitely worth reading. It's like
it ends with the reporter on a walk with this
guy who's like this hot shit philosopher, Like he's the

(59:38):
youngest philosopher teacher philosophy professor ever to teach at Oxford,
and like he's the head of this like multibillion dollar fund.
And he's like walking past this park that has been
taken over as like a like in tent city, and
she's like in his eyes just kind of flicked past that,
and he like looks at the horizon and he's like,
I just I really, we're not focusing on the wrong

(01:00:01):
problems with this like AI apocalypse thing, but like doesn't
even comment on that ship, and like the New York
article doesn't even comment on the fact that he's like
not worried about fucking climate change. They're they're just like
they just take the fucking New Zealand thing like at
face value. It's like, do you think it might be

(01:00:22):
because like so much of the existing economy that is
funding his movement is tied up in fossil fuels, and
like that he just can't he can can't deal with
any reality that might so he's just he's all he's
probably buying into all the ship they're saying about, like, well,
BP actually believes in a better future, you know what

(01:00:45):
fucking knows. I mean, I think it's it's just fucked up,
because effective altruism, if you've done correctly, seems like a
quite a beneficial force on the planet. And I think
that's why a lot of critics too, are like they're
like this could either completely funk up the idea that
this is worth something doing, or like maybe they can
actually kind of get find a way to like reform

(01:01:08):
this movement a bit understanding, like these were the pitfalls
that we fell into that like a lot of critics
and people who left the movement like this is bad.
You aren't going to do the right thing by having
more of these people in here. Yeah. So no, they're
fucked by the way, like they're like I've seen those
but like you can see it in the way that
the guy, the philosophy professor, guy who heads up the

(01:01:29):
fund response to criticism and he's just like, I'd love
to hear it out, and like the person is like, well,
maybe like instead of you just deciding what's done with
the money, you like open it up. He's like, he
takes it. It's exactly like Zuckerberg. He takes it in.
And then they're like, and he ignores the funk out

(01:01:49):
of it. He seems very receptive to it and ignores
the funk out of right, right, right, Yeah, they're they're fucked,
But there there is a there is room for a
movement like this the is not centralized and does not
have the like does not have any like influence coming
in from like the world of finance and investment banks.

(01:02:11):
But like that's what like no Angel investors allowed but
that's the sort of thing. And what's wild is, on
top of all that, a ton of people who got
unfortunately duped into this ft X nonsense and are now
creating a more disenfranchised people who have bought into it.
The guy was just missing bednets as a phase that

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like people who want to help people like go through
because it like makes them feel good emotionally, but it's
actually not the real problem, and was giving himself credit
for like knowing what the problems were going to be
a hundred and fifty years from now. He was not
perceptive enough to see the problem in his own fucking
company that like lost thousands of people, like ruined thousands

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of people's lives. But I think there's also that. I
think there's also a lot to say that Sam bank
Men Freed was just full of it the whole time too,
you know, because like he was giving like that Vox
interview or like those d M s he was exchanged
and he was like, yeah, I was just saying, you know,
it's like I'm just saying the right ship to keep
my fucking image up, and you're like, what the fuck?
And I think it just shows again he said something
really interesting He's like, you know, you go and you like,

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you basically go and you recite like the right chibblets
and you know, show that you have your collection of
the right opinion societally and that's enough to get you
in the door at a lot of places. And I'm like,
you know, you said the quiet part out loud right
there where it's like, you say the right things and
enough people will believe that whatever adventure you're on is
noble or whatever. And then I don't know, I just

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kept going from there. It's just yeah, read those interviews
to like, especially in the fallout of it, this guy
is he doesn't know when to stop talking, although him
talking has been very illuminating. Yeah, well, Steve, truly a
pleasure is always having you. Where can people find you?
And fully, uh it's the ram for sure. Wilbur with

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any spelled out Wilber with any other platforms, TB DU Yeah, Yeah,
we'll see, We'll see, we'll see. Yeah. Yeah. Is there
is there a tweet or some of the work of
social media? You've been looking your box of ashes, you've
seen anything. I wanted to pour one out for a legend,
and I can't find it. Somebody somebody shout out of

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the comments what it was? Do you remember that tweet
from It was an account saying they were Dr Frank
further from Rocky Horror and they did the like I
bet you're trembling with Antissa and then five years later
tweetedati like Twitter. Twitter didn't get better than that afterwards.

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So yeah, out, Miles, where can people find you? What's
a tweet you've been enjoying? Ah Man, find me on
Twitter and Instagram? Just if there's if there's an ad bull,
Miles a great good chance I'm there at least having
account god And also mad Boost He's Miles and Jack
got Mad Boost East are top rated basketball podcast and

(01:05:10):
also for twenty Fiance. Check that other show out as well.
There is let's see, let's see, uh got some good
ones where? Oh? The first one from at alexis j
Report tweeted, we should have had Twitter Awards. The guy
who made that Dell Curry divorce threat deserves one. Yes, yes, yes, yes,

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that's still one of my favorite tweet threads. If you
remember when he said, but but let me tell you
something you don't want I'll just beat a little bit
said you don't want to be out here. You think
you want to be out here, because this is talking
about Dell Curry getting divorced his wife, and he said,
when you get out here, you ain't gonna want to
be out here no more. Last time you was out here,

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out here was different. You think something's better. I come
to let you know. The best you're gonna get is
what you already. He's like, I don't know why you
don't want to do the work. You're gonna come out
here and ain't gonna like it. All they do is
start podcasts and talk talking about plate fixing. Fourteen minutes
of being about being out here, you're gonna start saying,
these females, where's the other one? He said, Uh, you

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don't want to be out here learning TikTok dances and
falling off milk crates. Oh one of my favorites. No,
not at all, not at Another one was at Charlie
Sauston tweeted one thousand Twitter employees with three months severance
pray from Mexico City that feels very God, who knows where, what,

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what place They're going to go uh and get together.
And then another one, uh is from Foty. People's at
not Carton Banks tweeted just a quotas they said, Twitter
might not make it overnight. Yeah, all the family up
there now, like any phone about somebody about ye oh man,

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Twitter might not exist by the time this shows up.
But it'll exist exist. It's just gonna be. It'll probably nonfunctioning,
and then we'll trying to download your thing. Yeah yeah, yeah,
my data. I'm waiting for them to message me back
that it's ready to download. Yeah. I did that with
all my vines. Yeah, thought him. I got him on

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a Sun Drive. So I funked up so bad with that.
I have my vines are gone. My vines are gone.
I should post my vines on Twitter just in a
burst this weekends. Yep. But when when I was trying
to do the like download all my data, the it
was like, all right, you gotta do the two factor authentication,

(01:07:47):
and only one of those worked. The it only worked
over email. You can't have them text you. They will
not text you, so that that one's down. It's on it.
It's on one at this point. Yeah, and know and ghosted.
I'm old. Yeah. Everything everything's the same, like every everything's

(01:08:09):
just comments about how everything's dead at Twitter. But I'm
enjoyed like Cody had. What I'm hearing from Twitter employees
is that there aren't any that's dr Mr Cody ron
den Blaker tweeted it should have been Facebook broken heart emoji.
That is absolutely the truth. April Clark, just a good

(01:08:29):
old fashioned said my wife is pissed at me because
I discovered I'm Polly. You cheat it on me. I'm
literally coming out to you right now. But okay, So
it's funny when people are tweeting that, like it's soaked
the chaos, fucking chaos, like people are crying, people are

(01:08:54):
like giving people to tell their flowers and ship and
then in case you just someone be like, do horses
get bored? Exactly? All right, shout out to you, shout
out to you. They must write. I was going to
tweet that that's something I really think about because there's
I walk by, like when I see horses like in
their stalls all night, like they're like standing up just

(01:09:15):
like they wish they could binge New Girl or something. Yeah,
right for the new season of Emily in Paris at least. Yeah,
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you might enjoy. Hey, Miles, what's the song that we
think people might enjoy? Carries Dude Fucking Schools Out Forever
Twitter is Dead, bro Alice Cooper, Hell yeah, hell yeah,
Let's go out on this track by Smoke City. Uh.

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It's called Numbers Interlude a number one and it's like
this is like a group from like the late nineties,
but they got like it's just good Brazilian bossa nova
sound and like this vocalist it's just kind of counting
and in Portuguese and it's it's just kind of I
don't know, good, good for your Monday. You know, take
this and enjoy your Monday however you want to do that,

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