The Right’s Even Tired Of Fox News, Lena Dunham To Go Full Lohan? 10.31.18

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season fifty five, episode
three of their Daily Fright Guys Halloween, Wednesday, October thirty one,
two thousand eighteen. My name is Jack O'Brien, a K
Hack food dyan uh, and I'm thrilled to be joint
as always by my co host Mr Miles. Yes, it's

(00:20):
Miles a K A gay slimer. That's an anagram and
slimmer from Ghostbusters. Also bring back actol cooler high see uh.
And now let me just do a singing one for
y'all two because I have to sing because with the
Zack Gang it's less dangerous. Here we are Miles and
a Danas. We're so stupid eggod dangerous. Here we are

(00:42):
Jack and a Danas with the blazing and potato. We're
the zag Gang. Here we are yeah yeah. So that
was from Sweetwater a Sweetwater under score nineteen eight one.
I'm guessing you were born nine day one. Well done,
Thank you Water and Miles. Well, we're thrilled to be

(01:04):
joined in our third seat. It's a very funny improviser
and writer. Heyes, Devenport, Hi, guys, thank you for having me.
I don't have any Halloween stuff geared up. Are you
dressing up for Halloween? No, for the first time. We're
gonna be home and I'm gonna put out a CBS
battery powered pumpkin U just in case like a kid comes,

(01:28):
so it's a little friendly for them. But no, no
dressing up this year. In past years, uh brag. But
I've been invited through a friend to Maroon Five's Halloween
party they have every year that's like a very serious,
like dressing up event. This it's been I don't know
if I used to be used to be at Hollywood

(01:50):
Forever cemity. Oh it was awesome, but I never got
it together enough to like compete with like celebrity costumes
with like stylist. It's been like any thousand dollars and
just suddenly they have a costume. It's like really incredible
and dressing like a Pikachu suit or whatever you just
get like the store bought like I'm green man, it's

(02:11):
a green body suit. So this year, yeah, we're opting
out which just too tired. Yeah yeah, yeah, a candy
given one that's some Reese's thing. Crowd plaser can't go wrong,
do you like as someone now as an adult who's
on the giving outside of candy? Do you ensure that
you You're candy is a kind of ship that you
wanted as a kid. I think that away from the
ship that you hated. Yeah, and so I guess it's

(02:32):
probably bad because as we were kids, we're going to
adults houses giving out right the shitty candy that they
liked when they were growing up. Now are probably like
they just want whatever, a vape cartridge or that's what
we're giving up, jewel cartridge, Like king size snicker. What
the is a snicker? Yeah? No, Actually that's one thing.

(02:57):
That's one thing I noticed in past hollow weens is
that kids are more into like not chocolate candies. Chocolate
candies are not as popular as they were in my day. Yeah,
like us growing up, those dusty candies that adults would
always give out when we were kids, like eco or whatever.

(03:18):
We're yeah gross, now that's chocolate. Yeah, for kids, chocolate
was the flex because I remember, like, oh, fucking starbursts.
Yeah no, they go all starburst all like the gummy
candies and ship. That's that's what these kids go create
the values of the chocolate morons because they're used to
having like CBD gummies exactly they eat like what the

(03:42):
fund dude is this TC or Man, I'm sucking with
them and giving them Circus peanuts because non chocolate candy.
I'll be like, oh you like non chocolate. I'm gonna
writele coming to write Bible versus on the packing peanuts
loose circus peanuts. Alright, Hey, is We're going to get
to know you a little bit better in a moment.
But first we're taking our listeners through what we're talking

(04:04):
about today. Uh, the goal of our shows to tell you, guys,
what our country is thinking and talking about today, what's
on our mind, hiding in our unconscious using the headlines,
box office reports, TV ratings, what's trending on Google and
social media? And today we're talking about I want to
go back in psychoanalyze horror a little bit more and

(04:26):
specifically asked the question why do horror movie villains never
have guns? Like? Why are we not scared of guns?
We're gonna talk about how Matt Drudge has had it
and the weird brand of having had it that Matt
Drudge has. We're going to talk about this case being
brought against three right wing militia members who were planning

(04:47):
to bomb an apartment complex that was housing Somali refugees.
We're gonna talk about Shep Smith, who's like just losing
his mind at Fox News, just being like, what the
fuck is happening right now? And Trump's announcement that he's
gonna end birthrate citizenship, ummm, just like that. Halloween costumes.

(05:07):
Just check in any Halloween costumes we saw. And finally
we're going to retire a trend. But first, Hayes, we
ask our guest, what is something from your search history
that is revealing about who you are? Last couple of days,
yesterday especially, I spent all day searching the air quality
index of l A. I don't know if you've noticed,
it's been like filthy outside, like visibly like pictures you

(05:30):
see of l A in the seventies where it's like
you can see brown like smog everywhere. Uh. And I
see now Apple has updated its weather app so you
can see what the air quality indexes in the city
at any given time. And I don't know if you notice,
sometimes it says at the top instead of like clear,
cloudy or whatever, it says unhealthy air quality, like don't

(05:54):
go outside. This is moderate. Right today it's moderate, which
is great, but it's just another I like, it's just
another thing to refresh. Life is just like finding a
new pages refreshed basically, and so now that's something that's
some new thing I can just check in on throughout
the day. That's so funny because for the past like
five days, I've been getting migraines for the first time

(06:16):
in my life and could absolutely and then I like
started hearing from other people who are like, man, I'm
getting these bad headaches. I don't know why. It must
be allergies or yeah, it might be like terrible air quality,
or it's a brain tumor. Yeah, or it's a brain tumor.
Isn't that what he says in kindergarten cocks, because like,

(06:36):
is he has a headache, because like maybe I have
a tumor. Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm still angry at
that little boy who's probably a man. Now, what is
something you think is overrated? His overrated? Uh? Well, I
work in TV mostly, I'm a TV writer, So it
goes about saying that I think every TV show that
people like is overrated, but I can't really enjoy anything.

(07:00):
But I get we're talking about CBD before. I guess
that's mine. I don't. I have never really smoked weeds,
so this is my first like foray and to like
this fun culture. It's still weird to me to go
into like a coffee shop and get one of these
like CBD drinks. I just feel like, like, you know,

(07:22):
like someone the person I'm getting from the counter is like, oh,
party time for this guy in the middle of a
day on the on a Wednesday. Uh. And it also
either has no effect on me or just makes me
feel like a little often like an unpleasant way. So
I don't know, it's just it's not like I see
it popping up everywhere now these like CBD shop in places.

(07:46):
Everything is like and we can add CBD to your soup. Yeah,
Like I don't need that. Can I smoke a boe
in here? No? Then I'm going to keep it moving.
I think if you smoke CBD, you probably will feel
it more the effects of like how CBD is meant
to feel and if you do like drinking drink. Yeah,
And because I've never had like the CBD infused drinks

(08:07):
because to me, I'm sort of like, I don't know
if that's really gonna have the intended effect. Whereas like
I was at a I was at a wedding recently
and I had a little CBD pen with me, and
that was perfect for the wedding because there's no you know,
you don't get the drug freakouts in your and you
can just chill. But I do. I do feel like
some people are like weed people who just like smoking

(08:28):
or doing anything related to weed just like improves their
experience with something, and some people just like feeling off
in not a pleasant way. It describes like eight percent
of my experiences. Yeah, you know all pens. You know
what planet you're from? Many planet chill vibes. Yeah, yeah,

(08:50):
I and I I am not immediately assume everybody at
the wedding is the wedding is about me. Yeah, I'm
not dancing enough. Yeah, that's what the bride's thinking about.
What is something you think is underrated? Underrated? Uh? Something
I've really gotten into recently is reading the print newspaper,

(09:14):
just as we like are all like consuming more news
than ever like online. I like how it organizes information
in a way that's a little like easier to know
what's important and what's not. On the Internet, sometimes everything
feels like an equally sized piece of information. But in
the newspaper, it's like here's the front page, like here's
the stupid ship. You don't have to worry about. Uh.

(09:34):
And you also have the feeling of being done at
some point, which is so much better than the Internet,
where it's like, oh, you've read everything in the newspaper,
you can throw it away. Now. Imagine scrolling to the
bottom of Twitter one day and you're like, wait, no,
I've read everything. Does the world connect? What? What print

(09:55):
publications are you subscribing to? I read the l a times.
I never heard of it. Uh, and I get it.
Um this I really love because you know, I'm worried
about it like piling up in my house and like
tipping over onto me and uh. And so I get well,
I mean like you would if you get it at
your house, it's gonna just pile up. And that's how

(10:16):
the New Yorker is to something. Yeah, so I get
it delivered to like the cafe near my house, so
I can like go get it there and like read
it there. I feel like it's a New York I'm
like trying to get the like Bodega lifestyle, like living
in New York. I didn't even know that was an
option you. I just asked. I was like, is this okay?
And they're like yeah. I guess they probably thought I

(10:40):
was setting up some weird alibi, right, I live here,
This is where my newspaper. Can can you hold this
newspaper but you take a photo right now? And also
can we point to the clock what time it is? Okay? Cool? Thanks,
I'd probably never be back out. You can keep all
the newspapers? Uh? Yeah, No, I totally feel you on
like having the information organized for you. I subscribe to

(11:03):
the Sunday New York Times and just having a front
page to like read all those stories and feel like, Okay,
those were the most important stories of that week according
to like people who are paying attention to the news
is kind of a good good tool. And you get
tea magazine. I go right to tea magazine. I love
that it weighs fifty paths. I don't know if there's

(11:26):
anything that's not an ad in it. No, yeah, why
what is Team magazine? I've only seen the cover of
it and just the binding is like like three dimensional.
It's so thick. Yeah, like when you pick up the
Sunday Times and it's so heavy. That's all Yeah, mostly
Team magazine. Finally, what is a myth? What's something people

(11:48):
think is true you know, to be false a myth?
I do a show about a l A a podcast
about like l A news and stuff called l A Podcast,
and we talk a lot about housing and home Lissennus uh.
Stuff that is like a huge deal in l A
and in pretty much every major city now. And there's
so many myths around that, uh. And the one that
I think probably comes up the most is that it's

(12:10):
really expensive to house homeless. But the alternative, like, but
the thing that's keeping the homeless people from being housed
is cost when really what's super expensive is what we
do now, which is let people live on the streets,
so they go to the emergency room every day, they
go in and out of jail. That ship is really

(12:30):
really expensive. It is cheaper to just provide homes for people. Yeah,
and we have a lot of money available to actually
tackle this problem, but we're kind of running into a
lot of neighborhoods where people are haven't quite realized that
this is actually a good solution to homelessness, and they
just see people like, you know, they've been town hall
meetings where people are screaming down homeless people who have

(12:53):
gotten back on their feet from like, uh, support housing,
and pe're like, we don't care about your story or whatever.
And they think there's like a whole there's like a
whole pushback in the city to where we have the
money to do this. Actually it's been it's all there.
We just have to find the places to do it.
And yeah, it's true, like there's no harder place to
try and recover, whether you have mental illness or something
else going on than doing that on the street, you

(13:14):
know what I mean. And it's it's such a simple thing,
but we're still trying to, you know, overcome the optics.
I think of people just the idea of their being
support housing near them, thinks, oh, it's going to breed
crime or whatever, when the alternative is people living near
you on the street. Like you're saying, but you don't,
I would think, yeah, that you would like people moving
inside instead of sleeping on the sidewalk. But yeah, like exactly,

(13:36):
like you're saying, the money is so much easier to
get than it is to spend. Yeah, yeah, well, and
and recently in the city, there's a new program that
the mayor's will, you know, saying hey, turn all your
rental rental bal units in the back of your house,
your garage or in lawsuit or whatever. Well we can
subsidize these people living there to help get back in there.
Then you know, there there there are solutions that we're

(13:59):
trying to pursue. But yeah, there's uh, it's definitely like
you say, there's this idea, this preconceived notion about what
it means to help rehabilitate homeless people or get them
the support they need. Uh, that people have all wrong.
But yeah, we're moving step by steps, but we gotta
take bear steps. Yeah. I live by u c l A.
And they have this huge like veterans campus. It's just

(14:20):
like it's like right in the middle of the city.
It's a huge campus that's just like old rotting buildings
that haven't been used for decades. They say they can't
really put housing on the they're finally starting to go
to instead they like let the Brentwood School, the private school,
like play tennis there and stuff like that. Right, yeah,

(14:41):
all right, let's get into today's zeitgeist. And uh, yeah,
I wanted to talk about horror movies the horror genre
again before Halloween is over. This is I guess appropriate
to the zeitgeist because there was another match shooting and
this one we kind of moved past the fact that
it was another A R fifteen shooting and you know,

(15:03):
all the n r A talking points that we usually
talk about, because the mentally ill shooters motivation was specifically
and literally triggered by a week long fake Fox News
fearmongering campaign about the caravan coming up towards the border.
But yeah, I want to revisit horror movies like we
we were discussing Halloween because it blew up at the

(15:25):
box office a couple of weeks ago, from the standpoint
that it's a weird and unique genre and that it's
the one where audience tracking scores don't seem to matter
and in fact sometimes have the opposite effect, like Hereditary
scored a D and was a monster hit because it
was so unpleasant to go to. But one specific convention

(15:48):
of the genre that I've always found weird is that
the villain in a horror movie like can't use a gun,
Like we have serial killers who have used guns, and
like the Son of Sam and the woman from Monster
and the protagonist we relate to in the horror movie
can have a gun, like guns exist in these universes,
but the object of our fear is not allowed to

(16:11):
use a gun, like trying to imagine Jason or Michael
Myers or Hannibal, like they're pulling out a gun and shooting.
Because we've normalized gun violence in this country to a
certain extent, and there's like a you know, like even
people who kill with guns, there's something more sadistic about
using like stabbing someone to death. It creates a much
more different profile than someone who shoots kills someone with

(16:32):
a gun. That there's another level, like the intimacy of
killing someone like that is different, and maybe that's just
that's that's something they try and underline in that sense.
This is a bit we do on the comedy show
I do called Hollywood Handbook. We talk about a slender
man like sneaking up on you and shooting you. But
it's ridiculous, I think because those movies survive on tension,

(16:54):
and there's really no tension. You don't have to be
snuck up on if you can be shot from fifty
feet away or whatever. Yes, so, I I mean, but
it is a reflection on that this thing is so
pervasive in our culture that is so easy to kill
people with. It can't even work for a horror movie
because the movie would be so much shorter. Yeah, yeah,

(17:14):
I mean I can't. Like one of the spookiest experiences
I've ever had was living in d C during the
DC Sniper thing, and just like people are just getting
like picked off at random, and you were just looking
around you not knowing if somebody was out there with
a sniper rifle, and I don't know, it was scary
in in a horror movie way. But my high school

(17:36):
canceled a trip to Walden Pond DC Sniper was going around,
really because I guess theoretically this they could have driven
up like four hours to get to pick off like
a freshman year school trip. So yeah, so we just
think it's like too easy for the killer to kill people.

(17:58):
I mean, for the same reason, like if you imagine,
you know, Jason just shooting a dude, then it's like,
all right, like a shot. If you're like, oh, I
fucking hacked, you know what I mean, Like, there's there's
just something darker about that form of being killed than
merely just an efficient gun shot, and maybe it's too
realistic to be fun. What they kind of use that

(18:21):
for is like cop thrillers like Dirty Harry is about
a sniper, Like the bad guy's a snipper, Jack Reacher.
Uh that opening sequence, Jack Reacher is a sniper, And
so that's about like the cat and mouse between a
cop and a criminal, but like but not about like
the actual heart and like fear of being attacked by

(18:42):
this person. That would just be like maybe too scary
and uncomfortable for people. It's funny to think about, like
if you match the cat and mousing up with the
horror genre where it's it's like a grizzled detective trying
to get Freddy Krueger or something like, just how that
that plays out that relationship. Yeah, because we're we seem
like pathologically incapable of being afraid enough of guns, like

(19:08):
as a culture, based on like the laws and the
way we react to news. I was wondering if it's
something like that or if it's like a deeper cultural thing,
like we aren't scared of guns because that's what cowboys used,
but we're scared of Indian burial grounds because they're the
ones we like fucked over and have like a reason

(19:30):
to get revenge on us. It's literally the guilt of yeah,
manifest destiny playing out where you're like, oh, yeah, we
shouldn't be here. But it's a gut like it's it's
a good rule. I mean, it's the same reason that
they don't use, like a horror movie creatures don't use
like a nuclear weapon or like because it would be
too easy to kill you. Anything that is too easy

(19:53):
for a horror movie script shouldn't be legal to own that.
That would be a great and a great rule. If
it's a hurdle for a writer to be like, oh
it's too easy because I would just kill everyone immediately,
that should be something that you are allowed to have
a Hollywood Handbook Act Horror Movie gun legislation. All right,

(20:13):
we're gonna take a quick break and we'll be right back.
And we're back, and Matt Dredge has had it. He
has taken with Fox News is foolery, yeah, sense, Yeah,

(20:35):
it all happened because there was a segment on Fox
where they were discussing the shooting, and some moment came
up where they like the anchors were having a laugh,
and he just sort of captured these screenshots of some
of the host is kind of yucking it up, but
like the chiron underneath was about like the horrible racist
attacks that were happening in the country, and they're like

(20:56):
have a little spect here, respect on their names. Uh,
And it was just sort of like, you know, I
think he couldn't believe the optics of just sort of
saying it and saying like, is this really funny and
then having like another caption of someone laughing saying, oh,
it's hysterical. But yeah, it was just sort of one
of the things his his tweet was a segment on
Fox News Morning where host laughed and choked their way

(21:17):
through a discussion on political impact of terror. Was bizarre,
not even forty eight hours since Blood floated the synagogue
Check your Soul in the makeup chair, Yeah, which is
a odd odd for Drudge, who was typically marches lockstep
with the Fox News arm of the GOP. But you
do see more and more of these Republicans kind of

(21:37):
breaking rank as Fox News and the party moves farther right, uh,
and making appeals to like sanity or whatever. Some of
the most popular Twitter guys are like David Frum and
Max Boot, people that were like hardcore w devotees that
are now become like never Trumper's. I think it's kind
of a mistake to ascribe any like, uh sincerity or

(22:00):
like genuine conscience to any of these people. But I
think if you're just if you make your money this
way and you feel like the ground shifting under your feet,
you just run to the place where people will be
receptive to what you're saying. I think that's happened to
lots of people that joined the alt right that just
like wanted to be famous. Yeah, and like that's where

(22:20):
the standards are so much lower for celebrity. So like
Candice Owen's or Baked Alaska like runs over there because
people and then oddly enough they will have nothing. It's
like doing reality TV. It's like, yeah, well it's easier
to reality TV, and then you try and cross over
and people like, yeah, you're a reality person, stay over there. Yeah,

(22:43):
but you know, Jack, you said when you watched it,
it wasn't necessarily that they were joking around it. So
it's a little little he's not totally representing what happened,
sort of it's just it's weird because of all the
just horrible things that are happening on Fox News. This
was the one clip I've seen from the past couple
of weeks where I wasn't immediately outraged, Like they seem

(23:06):
punchy while talking about very dark news, like you know,
almost like it's very uncomfortable, and so they're kind of
laughing to break the tension. So like performatively as newscasters,
I'd maybe give them bad marks, um, but it's I
don't know, it seems like a case of transference where
like some part of Matt Drudge knows that they're in

(23:28):
the wrong and that they cause this ship and so
like like this is something I notice a lot with
him because I pay attention to his front page just
to like kind of keep an eye on what conservatives
are thinking. And I feel like he does this a
lot where he'll say the right thing, but then he'll
link to the wrong thing. Like he'll say Fox News
is wrong, but then his example won't be the right example.

(23:51):
And I feel like it's a way of both like
having a valid point of view while also undercutting that
valid point view because it conflicts with your like Jeff
flaking it right, because I'm sure that that segment where
they were laughing was probably book ended by discussion about
the caravan, ring disease or whatever in the country. The

(24:14):
most like naked racist appeal, like probably of the Trump
presidency so far. What's funny is all the laughter was
set up by Kennedy from MTV making a quip at
the end of the segment which was sort of like,
broke the tension is what they're laughing at. Another great
example of someone who's fifteen minutes ran out and just
went scrambling to I mean, the easiest way to run

(24:37):
a fame grift, Like yeah, you got conventions, you're on
TV all the time, you can just stretch it out
and if you're a person of color, you will literally
be All Star overnight. Yes, that's the thing. Like I
think Candice Owens worked for like an Upworthy or like
something like that during the campaign and would write like

(25:00):
Larese Bay articles and stuff like that. Yes, yes, and
then as soon as that ran out, I mean, you
find a place where people are so much more receptive
to what you're doing. And look, I don't know, she's
best friends with Kanye West, so are things really going
that African right. I mean, she's crushing it. We can
all aspire, But the risk I think, like what happened
with Megan Kelly, is if you start on the Ray

(25:22):
and you moved to the center and you lose your
place in the center. Now you got nowhere left and
you can shift really hard right and go to like
what wherever Info Wars or whatever it is now, but
like at some point you just kind of run out
of real estate. You can have a show on the Blaze. Yeah,

(25:42):
what was the Glenn that was the Blaze? It might
still be. I don't know. Yeah, I think he like
basically flamed out at Fox News and went and started
his own network and he tried remember for a minute,
he was like can try and he tried to move left. Yeah,
and that one just kind of didn't take. It's funny
when your politics are like that's the thing you commodify

(26:04):
for fame, like out like, yeah, well what am I
going to be today? What bit am I gonna this?
Isn't this opinion that I have is not working anymore? Right?
Like what's my new one? That? And it's sad too
because some people look at those people and think they're
actually like their sincere actors and like these discussions and
you're like no, no, no, they say, what is whatever
will benefit them most. All, right, let's talk about this

(26:27):
bombing plot. Another incompetent bomber on the right foiled by
their own incompetence. Yeah, it was one of those things
where this guy Patrick Stein here got convicted like two
other sort of right wing militia guys who basically set
out for the plan to bomb a mosque and an

(26:48):
apartment complex where there were a lot of Somali refugees
where they were worshiping and living um. And you know,
it's one of those things where like the FBI caught
wind of it and we're just like, okay, let's hand
hold you to the end. High were the FBI. Now
you're under a rest. You're trying to pull some wild shit.
So on Monday, his attorneys were basically trying to argue
about his sentencing and essentially using the argument that Donald

(27:09):
Trump made him do this, because if it weren't for
all the rhetoric and things going on around the campaign,
it wouldn't have pushed him so far to these extreme measures.
But what's like really weird is the way that request
for lenient sentencing is written because it's like written very colloquially.
For example, so this is when they're talking about how

(27:30):
the president's like racism and Islamophobia was sort of like
the catalyst for all this. This is quote from the
legal document was quote lit the court cannot ignore the
circumstances of one of the most rhetorically mold breaking, violent, awful, hateful,
and contentious presidential elections of modern history, driven in large
measure by the rhetorical China shop bull who is now

(27:51):
our president. And then they go on with a really
sick reference to spinal tap. It says a person normally
at a three on a scale of political might have
found themselves at a seven during the election. A person
like Patrick, his client, who would often be at a
seven during a normal day, might quote go to eleven.
See spinal tap is written in here. I don't know

(28:13):
if because their audience, I don't know if the lawyers
normally right with this kind of casual swag, but it's
just really odd to because then they're also trying to
dismiss like what they were trying to do is sort
of being they literally said, their knuckle heads who were
and this was just locker room talk when the guy
called himself the organ man and he was looking for
cockroaches to exterminate. I mean, you're gonna have a tough

(28:36):
time I think, convincing this judge otherwise. But you know,
it goes to show you note that there are now
people who are actually facing like actual legal repercussions for
trying to be terrorists and they're using the Donald Trump
made me do it defense. It feels like the audience
is I guess the public like hoping to get this
case out in like the shorter public opinion and have
people be able to point to Trump for basically brainwashing people.

(28:59):
You've seen kind of the said of this, I think
with um after the Cosby conviction, like the lawyer talking
about that was like this is there's a war on men,
fake news, all these things, and that was clearly directed
at Trump and like people that like him, like maybe
even like pushing for a pardon. Uh so, Yeah, I
think so many of these now, like media so pervasive,

(29:22):
you're not just writing something for a judge or for
like a courtroom, like your gets out to some wider audience. Yeah,
I mean it's gonna be tough because that argument maybe
like a liberal person may be sympathetic to they would
see the optics like, yeah, I can see how the
rhetoric drummed this up. But you're not gonna then be like, oh,
I know, you just tried to bomb a bunch of

(29:43):
people out of mosque in an apartment building, so we'll
give you a mulligan on that one. So, like, I
don't know what how much real support they can drum
up with this. It might not work in this case.
But if you fast forward whatever four years, when people
are looking back at this era and like the Paul
Ryan's of a world are like forced to kind of
reckon with it, this is what that's the kind of
thing you're gonna see. Like everyone was swept up in

(30:06):
this movement. The rhetoric was awful. I'll say, like I
said many times that he went too far. They'll try
to absolve themselves for like having like collaborated for so long.
He's like, and now I'm running to be your present.
Right if at the time, on a normal day, I
might be a three ship bag politician, at the time,

(30:28):
I was cranked up to a seven. But yeah, I
guess is it working Because I mean, we're talking about
it on the biggest news show in America. Yeah, I
mean I think it's just more fodder for people like
us to discuss, Like, Okay, they're trying that as a defense,
but when it's a defense for trying to bomb refugees,

(30:48):
it's like, uh, I don't know about that. Yeah. I
mean it's crazy that this is what they have to
resort to to get people to talk about it, because
it is if it were the other way around. Hit
were you know, three Islamic people who were planning to
bomb a apartment building full of white people and like

(31:10):
their white white celebration, uh, the every day Yeah, like
that would be the biggest news story Oh yeah on
Fox News. But it's the defense might be kind of
the same that they were radicalized by, you know and
basically brainwashed by this like larger movement. So I think
it is notable that we could sort of say the

(31:30):
same stuff about like fundamentalists terrorism like in the Islamic
world as we can about what they're They're very similar.
It's just one gets actually covered by the mainstream media
and one doesn't. Yeah. Well, they also make the point
though they're saying because Trump won that was actually going
to make them less likely to follow through on their plan,

(31:52):
because these guys were operating in a world where it
was a foregone conclusion Hillary Clinton was gonna win. It's
gonna be on election day, right, or like yeah, because
they didn't want to do it before because the optics
they thought would help Hillary or something of that happening.
So they're going to do it after and they're like, well,
you know, if, but since he won, they actually you know,
it released some of the tension for them, blah blah blah.
But yeah, I mean, right now they're one of the

(32:13):
guys just looking at like up to life in prison,
but his attorneys are hoping with this argument that maybe
it'll be closer to fifteen that they feel would addeically
reflected the seriousness of the offense. The last thing the
synagogue shooter posted on gab was like, screw your optics. Yeah, So,
I mean you wonder how many mass murders are being

(32:33):
held back right now just by people being like the
optics are just brutal. Yeah, I mean, we're nearly guaranteeing
the blue wave, right, And I mean it makes you
on the same side of that coin. You're like what
happens after the election day, like, you know, if this
this mindset is still out there. Yeah, so don't vote.

(32:53):
We were wrong when we told you guys to vote.
Don't don't vote, don't vote, hide in your house, play
video games and just eat RB. Yeah. We wanted to
talk about Chep Smith over, Yeah, the Voice of Reason. Yeah,
I mean it's not an act necessarily, but he's sort
of there, I think, just to give Fox cover to
be like, it's not all fucking psychos on our channel,

(33:16):
you know, like Chep Smith come on and you know
they used to use Alan Colmes, right, and so now
because of all the caravan talk and how you know,
every day there's something new, Trump saying something wilder and wilder,
and you know recently on their network they're having people
coming on claiming that, you know, there's there's big strong
men coming in here, and that people who have smallpox

(33:37):
and fucking leprosy, like someone actually said they're lepers in
this It's like I'm still wrapping my head around claiming
you got lepers in the caravan anyway, So that's sort
of what's going on at Fox. That Shepherd Smith used
his time slot to try and pump the brakes a
little bit because everyone who's watching that channel is getting
fed this diet. And this is what he broadcasted to
his viewers. The migrants, according to Fox News report, are

(34:00):
more than two months away if any of them actually
come here. But tomorrow is one week before the midterm election,
which is what all of this is about. There is
no invasion, no one's coming to get you. There's nothing
at all to worry about. When they did this to us,

(34:21):
got us all riled up in April, Remember the result
was fourteen arrests. We're America. We can handle it. But
like I said a week to the election, and Jennifer
Griffins on it from the Pentagon, yeah, I mean is
not even like, yo, please calm the funk down. Which
is sad because on either side of him you have
people like Sean Hannity's and the Tucker Carlson's the world

(34:42):
who then go on and just have someone being like, oh, yeah,
they're bringing like polio like diseases where everyone's gonna be paralyzed.
You know, it's tough because on one hand, I want
to be like, yes, great, I'm glad someone is saying that,
But when you look on Twitter, especially after Shepherd Smith
has these moments. A lot of the viewers like get
this guy off Fox, like this guy a liberal or whatever,
and they don't like I guess that's so offensive to

(35:03):
them that someone would be like, Hey, you know, I
know you're worried. How about you not worried, but don't
tell me to fucking not worry. Yeah, I mean it's
good right for him to say this, but part of
you is still like, I mean, quit your job, like
this is how you really feel, like how can you
be still working at a place like this? But also
I can't help but wonder if if that clip is

(35:27):
circulating a lot more among like people on the left
the right. I mean it was like ten seconds of
of the broadcast for people to see live. Uh, And
if he you know, the same as these guys that
like every once in a while will say something against
Trump because it plays so well among like centrists, Like

(35:49):
if if people like Chep Smith know that this is
a way to like get goodwill and heade your bets
of everything like goes really sound. Uh, it's just hard
to take really serious when you're still getting money from
from from that which, Yeah, the kind of nonsense. They're
speeling it's better than not doing it. Yeah, well, I'm

(36:09):
glad there's at least someone on that channel to make
people angry and want to change the channel, because if
you get you know, like it helps you realize that
there are other viewpoints that much in the same way,
like if you're in your progressive bubble, you're hardly going
to interact with people who are coming on to be
like there's lepers coming and then you're gonna be like,
get this ship off, you know. But I guess for

(36:29):
this because his argument isn't as sensational. He's just like,
it's okay, the numbers are it's going to take two months.
Even we reported that remembers the equivalent of the mad
As health speech from Network everyonect no one's coming to
get you or your lake house. But it lets it's

(36:51):
like you're saying it, let's Fox say we are a
balance network. He provides them so much cover, so he's
kind of a useful idiot totally, And that's why I'm like,
it's funny when you see like people like Adam Schiff
and all these other politicians like hold this clip up
on Twitter and be like, yes, you know, I'm glad
someone is saying something level and you're like, yeah, that's
good for you to retweet, But I don't think that

(37:13):
has any effect. That's not going to move anyone who's
a truth you know, just mainlining Fox News all day. Yeah. Yeah.
If anything, it just proves that there is somebody, there
is at least one voice that they are actively ignoring,
or I mean, if you didn't think that they were
at least partially aware of what they were doing, which
I mean I think it's pretty clear they know exactly

(37:35):
what they're doing. But then it's also funny too because
an you will meet like some elderly people who are like,
I love Shepherd Smith. Yeah yeah, okay, so you're then
then you realize and there's some Fox like maybe if
they're on a spectrum, maybe ten or of the Shepherd
Smith ilk yeah, and then the rest are kind of
like whatever in between that. But they like to say,
you know, all their advertising they imply that there's like

(37:55):
a firewall between the daytime stuff and the nighttime like
Tucker and r Ingram stuff. There was that billboard up
in Silver Lake for a really long time that was
like real news and real honest opinion, and so it
was like Brett Baer is like the news guy. Uh,
and then like Hannity and all them are the opinion guys.
But the reality is they get so much of the

(38:16):
really toxic shit off in the daytime that seems more
legit because like every once in a while they do
stuff like they do the thing where they just allow
and quote unquote expert to come on or someone who
is a former ice agent and then say wild ship
and don't challenge it and move on. And that's how
they get away with like okay, and I didn't say

(38:36):
I didn't say I agreed. I just let him say
that wild stuff. And now we're moving on to a
story about a lost puppy. Yeah, okay. I mean there
are people who watch ESPN who enjoy both Stephen A.
Smith and Scott Van Pelt, and it's like, you know,
they have wildly differing takes, but it's just you know,
different sort of flavors, but they're still you don't have

(39:00):
to always watch and enjoy watching things that have a
coherent worldview, you know. Yeah, it's like an off speed
pitch watching Shep Smith. It's like they're they're downer to relax. Alright,
real quick, Trump says I'll end birthright citizenship. Alright, real quick,
No big deal. Uh, we're almost out of time before

(39:21):
the break. Well, I mean again, this is another thing that,
along with Shepherd Smith saying this is all happening a
week before the mid terms, this is Trump's attempt to
try and neutralize a news cycle that is very bad
for him right now. You know, like his pollings even
like is going steadily down, especially after this weekend. And yeah,
now he's trying to take over the news cycle by saying,

(39:43):
all fucking alter the Constitution with an executive order. Okay, buddy, dude,
that's not even possible, my man. But again, there are
people who want to argue that there are many ways
to do this. And he even said in the Axios
interview and what's his face, Jonathan Swan, who was like,
just shut the funk up. Yeah, that was the thing
that really disturbed me about it, because that the whole

(40:05):
conversation is set off by Jonathan Swan being like, so
they say that you can't like you're allowed to remove citizenship,
that that's something okay for you to do. That's my
aunt fair lad, like pretty good, like he's offering up
that this is okay for Trump because he knows that
Trump will say some crazy ship like he's trying to

(40:27):
get a sound bite out of it, but you're also
emboldening him to actually try to do this. That's the
thing about Axios is they just they love to be
around it and do whatever they gotta do to stay
close to this administration, on top of doing fake journalism
like this weird interview was yeah, when Trump says, most
people don't think I can do this, but now they're

(40:47):
saying I can. Like, how do you not just say
who who is? And who is they? He just swan
says right after, well, that's under dispute whether you're allowed
to do that, And it's like, dude, you just told
him that he could just like heavily implied that to
get him to start talking, but he you know again,
And so most people were scoffing, especially like when people

(41:10):
look at like even a lot of people even on
the conservative side, are having trouble saying like, I don't
even think this Supreme Court would be willing to like
try and just overturn the fourteenth Amendment like that. But
as that happened to Lindsey Graham, who's in a downward
spiral that continues. He was saying, well, you know, because
it has to also be you know, legislatively, is another

(41:30):
avenue to try and attempt this. He was like, well,
I'm going to introduce legislation to to end birthright citizenship too,
said that today. Yeah, but he said that yesterday. But yeah,
that was his attempt to do to try and give
legitimacy to this other weird claim that Trump was making.
But again, it's like, my man, even to do that,
they would have to get what two thirds of majority

(41:50):
in Congress and three quarters of the states to ratify
that kind of thing that every every attempt to do
this is just like a really it's it's a head scratcher,
which is why everyone's like, please, let's not talk about this,
because this is just causing a debate about us talking
about well can he because the answer is no, and
at best it would be very, very laborious, and when

(42:13):
really we're talking about, wait, what's going to happen to
entitlement reforms and things that what's really at risk for
people who are voting against Republicans right now? You know,
like thinking about protecting preexisting conditions or the state of
the president's rhetoric, you know. So that's why most people like,
let's not get too caught up on this thing. Yeah,
that's the danger of it is crazy. Obviously, the process

(42:35):
is ridiculous that it would take to have it happen.
But the danger is the conversation about it will move
the window so that you find yourself defending birthright citizenship,
and then the compromise becomes something much more awful than
what we have now. It's like, Okay, well, you know,
we're not going to remove birthright citizenship, but we are
going to stop people from having children in this country. Uh,

(42:55):
and this more like draconian way. So I mean, I
don't know, I don't know what you do about it,
because I think it's a mistake to ignore it in
some way like it like it is like an electoral ploy.
I think he said last week then on Tuesday that
he was going to do some big announcement or something,
and today it hasn't really come. I don't know. If
it was moving troops to the border, they were talking
about shutting the whole thing down another another great sensational distraction.

(43:20):
But to say, like I don't know. You can't delegitimize it,
but you also can't legitimize it. I don't know. I
feel kind of stuck about it, like to just not
talk about it. Then when it happens, you're like, oh,
should we have been talking about this? Well, I think
it's just when you think of other times that other
people have. You know, there was a Supreme Court case

(43:41):
in the late nineteenth century where people were talking about,
like the Supreme Court ruled that there were children born
to Chinese parents in the US were American citizens. Like,
time after time people have gone after this, and it's
always been like, no, like this is something that we
set out, especially when it came to African slaves, of saying, oh,
these slaves they didn't migrade here, but they were born

(44:01):
on US soil, henceforth their US citizens. Like it's a
very complicated matter, and it's not that's why to talk
about like, oh, can you do that with an EO
or whatever? It sucks up so much of the attention
when it's something that is not it's it's so far
beyond the realm of what is like possible in a
legal aspect that it serves him because now we're all

(44:22):
trying to talk about this when most sound legal minds
are like, that's this is not this is not possible. Yeah,
but it's it's just kind of the hopelessness of the
you know, he talks about it. He's the president, therefore
it's news, and he controlled the news cycle, and we're
fucked because whatever he's talking about, like, you have to

(44:43):
report the thing that he said, but you can at
least by the standard rules of how a media is
supposed to operate. But think of how much more severe
this is than like DOCCA, which he was seeing as
kind of being compassionate about for a while. And that
is about like children being brought into the country undocumented

(45:03):
being allowed to stay here and become citizens. Now even
unborn children that are like born in this country have
never lived anywhere else, but he's talking about them being
eligible for for being thrown out. But ONE was a
program that was legislatively done and one is part of
the constitution itself. And I think that's the biggest difference,

(45:24):
is like the hurdles you have to overcome to comp
wholesale ultra the Constitution or much it's a different mountain
to climb, I know, but it's a problem that we're
talking about that like basically saying like, well, you can't
like the process for doing that, you would have to
go through Congress and you'd have to go through the States,
and like him saying like, okay, you guys are right,
I'll go through Congress to to end birthright citizenship. And

(45:45):
then it's like, oh wait, this this wasn't a win
that we that that we got the fact that he's
going through this more legitimate process, right. But what I'm
saying is even if going even trying to go through
Congress is a fool's there and even regardless I hope
so a lot of people saying on Twitter today like,
well see you in court for that if you're trying
to do that, and it's like, I don't know that,

(46:05):
Like what do I really trust that institution anymore to
do the right thing or not just abdicate responsibility like
they did then the Muslim Band. I mean, like I
remember thinking at the time, this will never stand up
in the Supreme Court, and it did. Uh. So that's
the kind of thing that scares me, like having the
conversation about process instead of just on moral grounds that

(46:26):
this is yes, and I think. I think there's so
many other things to talk about that people can focus
on that will have some actual meaningful discussion about. But
you know, he's he knows when the new cycle is
getting out of his hands, and he does stuff like this,
and it's like, oh, we'll also send like five thousand
troops one troops to the or however many troops needed
to play on the border, and you have all these
generals coming on. They're like, that's so like why why

(46:49):
and if and if it's just for the thing of
like oh well they'll build tent cities or something, it's like,
you can do that in a much more efficient way.
That isn't just you having the optics of sending the
me to the southern border, which is that's all. It's
just a just a moment for people to hang around. Yeah,
that's true. Alright, we're gonna take a quick break. We'll
be right back. And we're back and Lena Dunham guys

(47:23):
is back in the news. She is making a movie
about the refugee experience. Um Syrian refugees. Yes, is Syria
a part of Manhattan that I'm not aware of? I
don't know what the fuck like this for J. J.
Abrams and Steven Spielberg or something there, damming it. I

(47:44):
just read the headline and I kept moving. I kept
it moving. I don't know any other details aside from that,
and that was enough for me to know what is there?
Am I missing anything here? No? I mean, like I
think it kind of makes I think Spielberg is interested
in this kind of thing because the show of Foundation
has been doing a lot of work, like can acting
the Syrian refugee experience to what happened to Jewish people

(48:05):
like decades ago, and like this is the same thing
going on now, So I understand why he wants to
tell this story, right for sure? Why it's Lena Dunham.
I mean, I don't believe that you have to have
experienced something to write about it. I don't think it
has to be like a Syrian refugee writing the script,
so we don't be writing movies about the twentieth century,
right And she look, I think the best version of

(48:25):
it is she has articulated her experience so deep, like
she's such an insular writer and like writing about her
own stuff all the time. If she can translate that
into like fully realize the human reality of being a
Syrian refugee, that would be amazing, right, but I yeah,

(48:45):
it seems unlikely given her, But yeah, I mean, Dave
Eggers was a guy who like made his name writing
uh sort of a very up his own as brand
of memoirsh writing, and then he did a pretty good
job eventually documenting like other people's experiences. He wrote a

(49:07):
really interesting book that he said was like a nonfiction
novel called what Is What or what is Yeah? And
he wrote z Tune, which he admitted was nonfiction about
a immigrant in New Orleans who goes around saving people
during Hurricane Katrina and the aftermath and then is put

(49:29):
in prison and like suspected of terrorism for just being
basically a brown person in New Orleans because Katrina was
so fucked up. But anyways, I mean, I don't know,
maybe that's like the aspirational version of this is that
she has kind of realized that she's tapped out of

(49:50):
stuff about her own life and is ready to move
on to the next thing. I mean, go write a
story about how oh b J fucking curved you, you
know what I mean. I just feel like it's something
as like so nuanced and like about the Syrian refugee
experience at the very least. I agree that she has
talent as a writer and things like that, but I
feel like this can't be the only option to to

(50:11):
do this, and not that it has it can't be
Lena Dunham, but it just it was a chin rubber
from sure. Yeah, no, absolutely, I mean but I think, yeah,
that's like the best evolution of her career is just
taking her like command of language, just being like a
good communicator and translating into someone who can adapt someone
else's story really well and effectively. But there is also

(50:34):
a catastrophically bad it just unimagined, and I feel like
that tends to be like I root for her because
I don't know, I I liked parts of Girls, and
you know, I always root for like a a young writer.
And there's just always whenever she kind of puts a
political point of view out there, it's just it. I

(50:58):
always end up with my hand on my forehead a
little bit. But those all those things have had her
at the center of them, right, all the stuff with
like whatever her dog and like the O b J thing,
it's all like her centering herself in a way that
is like kind of gross, it's gonna be hard to
do that with. So maybe it's like the best thing

(51:19):
she could be doing is how is she going to
research this? Well, the book I got, I mean right,
like the journalism i'd imagine, But if she you think
she's gonna go and like live that life or something
to try and really get that firsthand experience, because like, also,
you're writing a story about oppressed people, and I'm hard

(51:39):
I'm hardly seeing her experience with being oppressed and how
that translates, like not to say that you again, you
have to be on one side or the other two right,
honestly about that. But I don't know, Like we're trying
to advance a little bit, and I feel like this
is an opportunity for maybe other people to be able
to do this in a way that gets the whole
thing out. But who knows. If she's being like, no,

(52:01):
I'm going to Aleppo and I'm going to see what's
good and you know, really I'm gonna take eight months
and travel by boat and and just live with these people. Okay,
what other people are there besides Lena? Idea At the
very least, I feel like, Lena, what you have to
do is go to grease, go to the beach where

(52:22):
where where the boats are coming in, and just like
spend a week they're helping people get off the boats
and stuff. I know Hollywood people who have done this
yea and been like is this like incredible, like crazy experience.
You don't have to go to Aleppo, but you do
have to get out there in a private way to
I mean like get out not in a way that

(52:44):
is like don't Lindsey lohanded up and like I'm going
live tell the people of America what do you want
and I will give it to you. What is your venmo,
I'll get it to you. Do you want bag? And
I'm like, why are you talking about? Exit? Then we
find out that she goes over there and we realized
there's like something in the water or like a sad
has like gotten to them and it's actually like whatever

(53:08):
chemically brainwashed them to go over to their side. You're like, oh,
so that's like you just become like the same whatever
pod person that Lindsay Gillian is, right, Lena, you know,
we'll see what happens. Yeah, you know, yeah, for the best,
it's a project we'll get to keep an eye on
because it's happening out loud in public, and we know
the writer. What about Halloween costumes? You guys doing anything

(53:31):
for Halloween dressing up? I know I am going to
hand out candy, and I'm gonna I'm gonna hand him
out bygone era candy. You know my hand out squeeze
It's and Mondo drinks. Mando was like a squeeze it
but like a weird like flat top that you would
snap off. Okay, yeah, I got old frutopias on my

(53:52):
hand out. I'm just like, I don't know, yeah, so
be yeah, exactly, so beesy. So you know they carry
it one. What was the off brand? The third brand?
Not Gatorade, not Power it was Yeah, that was like
carbonated sports back. It has a little string. Yeah. The
thing about Toby was that it was unfinishable, huge, like

(54:15):
those bottles were just like so giant, and it was
kind of thick in a way that sort of made
it feel like a meal in a bad way. Uh.
And so I always was thrown out the last third
of that. So yeah, and like old Nia water bottles,
remember NYA. Anyway, I don't know, I don't I think
I'm just gonna hand out candy I got. They have
glow in the Dark candy, which I haven't opened up yet.

(54:36):
I just thought at the store and it's like glow
in the Dark Hershey's. I don't know if the candy
itself was going on the darker. It's the packaging. It's
got to be the package. I haven't opened it up,
but I mean, I'm in the dark worms like those
gummy worms for years. You know. That's so what do
I know? How about you? I'm also and I'm not
doing anything. What the idea I have now? What kids

(54:58):
seem to like more is savory stuff. They love hot cheetahs.
They like, yes, instead of candy, now it's savory snacks.
So maybe if I really want to give the kids
a thrill of this hollowing roast up a prime Ribley station, Rosemary,
They're like, would you like would you like a more

(55:18):
rare or well done? Said, okay, you're gonna love this.
This is actually Australian wagyu beef, just just loose in
the bag with all their slab of me. And you're like,
would you like some jew on their horse Radis carving station.
It's a good idea. You just watch the kids just
like go back, like not making eye cough, no, no,

(55:44):
just the really thirsty chef, just like why is no
one coming to the station? Uh ohen for you, young lad,
I have mosaka. You're gonna love this. Do you guys
see the little girl's costume, the headless little girl? Oh yeah,

(56:04):
that's what that's probably. It's a costume that I think
people have probably seen before, where the actual head is
looks like it's on a plate, and then there's like
an apparatus above it that makes it look like it's
a headless body carrying the head on a plate, but
it's just the most And then you find out this
is like a physical deformity she has, and you're like,

(56:25):
oh no, I'm sorry you had it's actually coming out
of your chest like total recolling ship. It's good for
you taking ownership of it. The proportioned body don't make
sense in the in the costume. That's what I like. Well,
I like how when A proposed nothing this morning? You go, yo,
did you see this little girl's costume? And I was

(56:46):
like no, but I didn't know what the funk you
were talking about, something like what do you mean like this?
Like I was like ships some black face nonsense or
some ship and it was the thing I had sawned.
I was like, oh yeah, and but you were sincerely
like you were really mesmerized by saying like damn like
and then they put the candy like in the neck hole.
I know, yeah, just a fan, that's it. I mean

(57:06):
that feels like one of those costumes that a parent
does to like show their kids off. The worst ones
are when they dress them up as something that they
the parents are fans of, like the favorite whatever, like
podcast host or something. Right, you see how your journey.
Do not do this any where you have people dressed
up as dress their kids up as you never never kids,

(57:29):
thank god, some adults occasionally, but I see like whatever,
some like Barstool Sports hosts, you like, dress your kid
up as that, and a kid has to grow up
and then like when you were a kid, Oh yeah,
I was p ft comment or whatever. Don't do that
to your children. And finally, I want to talk about

(57:49):
crunch cup, which is a new invention that is being
sent around on the internet. Not really, but it's mean
something that a little little kick the cup that's meant
to allow you to eat cereal on the go without
having your cereal get slaggy, so it keeps the milk
in the cereal separate. U. It's not clear at all,

(58:11):
like how it creates the bites that have both the
milk and the cereal in there. I think, yeah, it
basically has like a I don't know, Yeah, I think
it just seems like you're gonna be drinking more milk
than you get cere. Like the idea is that when
you move the cup to sip, gravity will pull the
little cereal morsels to your mouth. That's not gonna work,

(58:31):
and then the milk it is coming around the bottom
lip of the cup and then you just mix it
in your mouth and eat it. Which I get it.
It's a good It looks like something the first time
you used it, you wanna like lay out a tarp
because it's going to lobster. You put a bib on
or some ship for all of us eat lobster on
the regular. But yeah, I think with what got Jack

(58:52):
really piste off is like I was like, yo, you're
about this crunch cup because I just thought the idea
itself was sort of interesting, super intriguing. Eliminate bowl in spoon,
you know what, I mean, you just do it in
a cups and good look extra juvenile. Um. So we
go to the kickstarter page, and you know, we all
know kickstarters. The key to a six starter is a
dope fucking video. And this video is just so annoying,

(59:15):
like it's done in this eighties way. Here, I'm just
gonna show you a little bit haze just so you
can kind of get an idea of like what we're
talking about. Okay. It starts off with a VHS thing
cool to bygone air, like, oh wow, real cool eighties graphics.
A aesthetic is very big, now, I know. And then
you get they lose that eighties thing almost immediately, use

(59:36):
a fucking filter on the camera, Come on your DP.
Not know how to make this look eighties. It feels
like one of those products in the aftermath of the Blanket,
the Snuggie and the sham Wow and things where that
were like not intentionally stupid, but like millions people bought
as a joke, and now they're doing it on purpose.
Stupid crunch cup, I got you one of these. That's

(59:59):
the kind of and the video is meant to be
as sarcastic and sort of self aware is probably wacky
and it's almost specifically done. You can tell that they
looked at that Dollar Shave Club viral video and we're
just like, that is what we want from you at
agency hold On. That video fucked every like business owner

(01:00:21):
up because when I was like doing like digital content
for companies, so many people were like, we just need
like that Dollar Shave Club video. It's not gonna work.
It was the only touchstone. People. My whole reason for
bringing this up is I just want anybody who is
anywhere involved in the launch of a private like that
is not gonna work. Guys, that happened, it's over. It's

(01:00:42):
not gonna work for you, and you're gonna end up
fucking your product up and fucking your product launch up.
Like this specific product. They don't bother to show you,
like how the mouthful is created, so it all you know,
it could just be yeah, and they spend their time
instead like the scientist at one point has like a

(01:01:03):
horse mask on for no reason that like it doesn't
come back. The eighties thing doesn't come back, Like it's
just like throw every wacky idea at the wall. So
you've just gotten you have more notes for the people
behind this. No but it's just we've seen this before,
the desire to launch a product off like in a
wacky viral video that is trying to recapture that Dollar

(01:01:26):
Shave Club thing. Dollar Shave Club can't even recapture that
Dollar shave. But you have to do this now because
every product that we need exists, right, and so you
can't create something that people will actually buy out of necessity.
So it has to be for some joke reason, like
you can only launch like a joke product. But I
guess don't do the sarcastic guy who's walking around a

(01:01:49):
lab being like this ship is dough. It might work
on like VCS or something where you can just get
flush with VC money and just like cut and run
like dude. It was like the Dollar Shave clip video
getting in, getting in, getting sixty year old guys that
are like, okay, this is so they like this, and

(01:02:10):
that was just I don't know what they mean by
one long shot. So that was I thought it was
one video. No, no, the Cameron forget it, fucking money assholes. Yeah,
maybe maybe this is just offensive to me, and but
I think it is because the thing that upsets us
is that it's the lack of ingenuity about it, like
you're just following the mold of this other thing that's

(01:02:32):
already dated. But yeah, like you say, hey, it's like
you do need something to kind of separate yourself from
like the rest of the herd. And of course there's
there are a million ways to do a product video.
You just don't have to do the version that's a
guy talking to camera, walking around a lab and doing
all this like tongue in cheek shit pull us into
thinking Justin Bieber doesn't know how to eat a burrito,
that's how to launch And those guys, I know everybody

(01:02:54):
on the internet was like, bro, if you were listening
to the show, I said off top that it we
don't know if it was Justin Bieber. Okay, so thank you. Yes,
the YouTuber has got some of us, but I knew
his knees were too hairy. Hey, has it been a
pleasure having thank you? Guys? Appreciate it? Where can people
find you? Listen to you? So many podcasts? Now, it's sick.

(01:03:20):
Got an illness man? Yeah, l once you got that
zoom age six, it's hard to it's hard to Hollywood
handbook l a podcast and doing an NBA show now
on Patreon called the Flagrant Ones or the Flagrant Ones. Yeah,
Flagrant one. Uh in particular, those are the shows awesome?

(01:03:43):
And are you on Twitter? Yeah? I'm on it all
the time. I said, screen time to an hour a
day and I don't even see that alert come up,
where like my my thumb is just blasting it away
before I can even register that has come up. Time
is a great little thing. If it worked, it would
be amazing. I was like, Oh, this is gonna change

(01:04:04):
my life. I'm only gonna do an houtur on Twitter
to day. That's incredible. No, no, at Hayes Davenport Alright,
And is there a tweet that you've been enjoying from Twitter?
From from somebody out me, from you, from somebody else,
just any any tweet? Uh? Okay and none of them? Yes,

(01:04:28):
there you go. Oh you find me on Twitter and
Instagram at Miles of Gray, g R A Y and
a couple of things I liked on Twitter. The tweet
I like today was from Dan White that Jack first
found and then I got into and his tweets are
just so freaking funny. At Dan White A T d

(01:04:49):
N d N W H I T it's a photo
of like those little Koala bear care folding stations, like
a baby changing station. Uh, and it says r T
if you use these as a fold out bench when
you don't have to go to the bathroom but want
to sit and talk slash chill with your boys while
they blow out the bathroom stalls. There. Yeah, the guy

(01:05:12):
casually posting up, yeah, yeah, dangling off the side like yeah, dude,
I told you don't get that kunk pound chicken man
pressing the air dryer button for your friends so you
don't have to get their hands are It's like, no, dude,
I gotta I gotta do. He's my elbow. Like THEODS
tweet I've been enjoying is Adam Todd Brown tweeted something

(01:05:37):
I didn't know that. He said, they're laughing it up
on Monday Night football because Tom Brady is just now
approaching a thousand yards for his career, so this is
a great time to roll out my faith sports fact.
Dan Marino rushed for eighty seven yards in his entire career.
That's cool. That's eight seven yards full career. Stay in

(01:05:57):
that pocket, boy, Yeah, He's at Adam Brown on Twitter
And then Julian McCulla tweeted, what they don't tell you
is that they were rated out of a maroon ten.
There's a YouTube thing I like based on Dan Marine.
Have you seen Dan Marino freaks out? That's one of
my favorites, is like a fifteen second clip of Dan
Marino trying to say something on like an NFL Sunday

(01:06:19):
like panel show and like stumbling over his words and
just having like just a momentary like rage attack where
everyone else at the table is WHOA, all right, I'm
gonna watch that immediately. You can follow me on Twitter
at Jack Undersquirrel Brian. You can follow us on Twitter
at Daily zike Ice. We're at the Daily zike iceed

(01:06:39):
on Instagram. We have Facebook fan page and a website,
Daily zis dot com, where we post our episodes. In
our footnotes, we link off to the information that we
talked about in today's episode, as well as the song
we write out on You can also find that information
in the show notes, show notes and miles What song
are we going to write out? So today I heard

(01:07:00):
a track that you know, because it's fall, you know
in the seasons are changing. Being in l A, we
don't really get that so much. And we were just talking.
I was just talking to super producer Nick, who was
in New York time about how it really feels like
fall and how much I long for that feeling. I'm
like forcing on a sweatshirt already when it's like eighty
degrees outside. Uh. So this track is called eighty one

(01:07:21):
Autumn by Uyama Hiroto, and it's like a little sample
based track, but if I don't know, when I listened
to it, I feel like it's fall. I wish I
had a blanket on or something. Uh And it just
puts me in that fall mood, and that's not often
usually I'm out here saying it's gonna make your big
toe shoot up at your hoot. Well, you know what,
It's gonna make your pumpet spices all spicy. So just

(01:07:41):
take this one in. It's eighty one auto the year
eighty one. Is that what it's for. I guesserture eighty
one and that's what we're experiencing. The year eighty one
is getting a lot of run on today's podcast. Just
point out because you're a k can't from some of you. Yeah,
whoa a numbers guy over fucking Mercury Rising yeah, I'm

(01:08:02):
like rain Man, but only about the number eighty one.
I'm excited you need to fall walking around song exactly.
So mine historically is Magic by the Cars, which Patty
Mo Patrick Monahan on Twitter recommended, and it really works
in like New York and yeah, that's out here, No
it sucks, and that's brown is the area you've got

(01:08:24):
to pretend. Ye. All right, we're going to write out
on that we will be back tomorrow because it is
a daily podcast. Will ye

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