January 25, 2018 • 52 mins
In episode 71, Jack & Miles are joined by comedian Dave Stone to discuss the doomsday clock, a sci-fi dystopia with porn, Watergate's comparisons to today's government, a Russian viral video content, a Burger King net neutrality ad, & more.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season fifteen, Episode four,
Daily Zight Guys for January eight. Team. My name is
Jack O'Brien a K bow Jack Yellow courtesy of Dale Chaplin,
and I am joined by my co host, Mr Miles Gray.
That's right, Hi, it's me Miles. Hey. Why don't we
just go eat some hay or make things out of
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clay lay by the bay? I just may what do you? Gray?
Thank you so much because I'm pretty sure that's a
happy deep cut. Uh. And that is from Blackadive, So
thank you at Blackadive keeping it laxative but for black people.
I don't know, however you want to market that black
sative could also be an a K for me? Sorry
(00:41):
Jack sative anyway. Cool, Well, this has been fun. Uh.
We are thrilled to be joined on our third seat
by the co host of Boogie Monster with Kyle Knee
Uh and the hilarious stand up comedian Dave Stone. What's up, guys?
What's up Dave? How you doing? I'm great. I'm excited
to have you here. Are you been in air stand up? Yeah?
(01:01):
I'm still in the van. You are in the van? Yeah,
it's pretty cool, dude. That was bringing it up. Yeah, yeah,
I just had to. You know, that's one of my
favorite bits. You guys have to if I was ignorant,
I see you are, how talented you are, And it
was man, I fucking was cracking up. Thank you. I've
been kind of it's been like kind of on again,
off again residents for ever since I moved to l
(01:22):
A six years ago. I was in it for a
couple of years and I got out of a couple
of years. Now I'm back because the show businesses, uh
just wishy washing. Yeah, you can't. You can't count on
anything but dab. What's something from your search history that
is revealing about who you are as a human being? Oh?
Search history, I don't know. This week if you looked
at it, you might see how to skin a deer.
(01:45):
I've just been very curious on how to skill of
skin animals. Just uh well, I'm just u with the
current political climate, I'm preparing for the worst. So how
to be catching your own food, making your own buckskin.
You know, I'm our halfway there with a van, so
I'm already halfway off the grid. So you know, if
need be, I need to know how to kill animals
(02:06):
and skin them and eat them. You know, is skinny
a dear easy? It appears to be so yeah, I
mean it's it's a bit gruesome. Yeah, it doesn't doesn't
take a genius to figure it out. But yeah, there's techniques.
You gotta hang it the right way, and you gotta
make the incisions and then you can just kind of
peel it off. Yeah, I'm all bore you with the details.
But yeah, it's also a good thing to google while
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like making eye contact with somebody over over the top
of your phone. Skin and animal, what's something you think
is over it? Oh? Man, I just saw a Ladybird,
So I mean it's I enjoyed it. Yeah, yeah, I
don't know. Not to get all, you know, too judgmental
(02:46):
about the oscars, but like, I don't know the best picture.
I think the best picture I think of just this
grand epic film, not just white girls have and growing pains.
It's weird because yeah, you're not the first person to
come in saying Ladybird was overrated. Like everyone has the
same thing. Like I'm not saying it's a bad and
I loved Laurie Metcalf, she was great, but just best
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picture I think Schindler's List, Godfather, and then you know
there's nothing really even not to give spoilers, but like
there was not even a huge major conflict that you
can get behind. It was just like, oh, well, let's
spoiler alert, nothing happens. I do feel like they, yeah,
it's a good You feel like that's a real high
school community. I don't know, you feel it feels lived in.
(03:31):
But what do you think about the Oscars who were
talking about this with the with the nominations coming out
that sometimes like actual films that deserve to be in
the Best Picture categories don't often get nominated because sometimes
we feel that like the Oscars have to celebrate like
the most grand feats of filmmaking. If something was just
a really great, solid movie, that it can be in
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that in that consideration, or you're just sort of more
of the idea of like these have to be feats
of like real real cinema, real filmmaking. I mean, I
just think, you know, I mean, it's it's simple to say,
but just the best movies, you know, regard. I feel
like there is an agenda with the Oscars as far
as like what's your movie about or what you know,
what caused, does it promote and and and all. That's
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fine as far as like, you know, themes and stuff
like that. But I feel like some movies, some lesser movies,
because they have a good theme, you know, they probably
get the nod as opposed to another movie. I don't know,
like war movies. I know dun Kirk got nominated, but
a lot of times war movies don't get you know,
because it's a little right landing or it's a little
aggro or whatever. But I don't know, I feel like
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themes sometimes seems to be a little more important than
the actual quality of the film. So but I can't
give you an example of a movie that didn't get
nominated this year that I thought it should. But I
don't know. I just missed the days of like, oh man,
that was a freaking movie, not just so here's a
quirky little and I love indie films, a little slice
of life stuff, but like sometimes I just oh, really
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best picture that So the year that Forrest Gump, Pulp Fiction,
and Shank Redemption all came out, they were all nominated.
Who do you think should have won between those three?
Oh man, that's a tough one. I can't even remember
who did win? Did Forrest Gump, Forrest Gum one? And
I feel like Forrest Gump has that like big sprawling
(05:14):
mass appeal. Yeah, exactly, and it felt like, wow, that
that's one that in the theater, you're like, man, that
I just had an experience. Yeah, that that was definitely
that would qualify under like, well, that's an epic movie.
But pulp fiction changed the game for years to come.
And then Shaws might be the most like rewatchable movie
of all times. So it's it's tough. Those are all.
(05:36):
I think. That's a good a good Oscar race to
kind of look back on, uh, figure out where you
stand just on cinema in general. I mean, yeah, I
loved pulp fiction changed the game for me too as
far as like it it kind of and it's probably
a common thought, but like it kind of introduced me
to indie film, to independent film as far as you
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don't even though it was nominated for an Oscar, it's
still just the way it was made and yeah, and
just the stylistically obviously that was kind of a trend setter.
Oh yeah, yeah, that soundtrack to it's you know, it's
infectious when you remember the interludes on the thing that
had like the dialogue and I'm like, yeah, yeah. The
soundtrack Quiz Show also came out that year, also a
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really get great movie brought to you by Jarital Yes,
all right, and what's something you think is underrated? Well,
sticking with the entertainment theme, Uh, it just just started
season three. But I don't hear my friends talking about Baskets. Baskets.
It is so good. It's so funny, it's so dark,
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it's it's got so much heart, Like it was really
hard to be that funny and to have that much heart.
Usually shows or movies that have a lot of heart, like,
all right, that's a little hacky, right right, right? Who
gives a ship? But like, I mean, they're just hitting it,
they're just bulls eye. I didn't started season three, but
the first two. I got three episodes into the first season,
I was like, how is everyone not saying this is
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one of the greatest shows that's out right now? I
don't know why it because it's crazy, like it's exact
galvin Akis is in it, and you feel like that
would be enough for people to really like put all
the praise on it or attention on it, but I
don't know, but there's like a real sadness to it. Yeah,
there's like a sadness and yeah, there's heart to it
where it's so it's not just like him, you know.
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I think the stuff that he was doing and like
the hangover and stuff like it also appealed to like
bros Man stuff like that where baskets has you need
a little emotional intelligence. Yeah, I I agree. It's it's
at that weird cross section where you know, comedies don't
get nominated for awards like we were talking about, and
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this feels like an actual piece of art that yeah,
you know, especially Louie Anderson, that is like the most
underrated thing about that show, Like be on the show
being great, but I feel like even Louis Man I can't.
It's it's amazing. Totally forget or I totally forget that
that's a dude, yeah like his It's just it's like
the crazy, sweet old grandmother type who loves Kirkland signature everything.
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YEA loves Arby's speaking of oscars real quick. I just
wanted not to change gears, but I love to get
out is that a comedy? I know it didn't get
nominated for But the whole reason that happened is because
the Golden Globes. It was nominated for Comedy musical. And
that's only because studios with the Golden Globes they have
the option to submit a film under a specific category.
(08:28):
So they clearly saw that the dramatic film category was
way too congested. So the same thing with The Martian.
You remember The Martian few years ago, was yeah, it
was nominated as a comedy. I think they have one actually,
but yeah, that was like the studio doing that, not
the press being like, oh, yeah, this is a comedy.
And I know, like the argument is I could said
like a very dark, satirical look at society, and you can,
(08:49):
you can say that, but I mean, personally, I don't
view it as like a comedy comedy, just like an
amazing like thriller when I get the loophole there, But
I've even read reviews where people reference the comedy in
it and I can't even think of it. The only
comedic elements I can think of or was his buddy
who was cat sitting or whatever. You know, he was funny, right,
but like, there was really nothing funny about that movie. Yeah,
(09:12):
I don't think you walk out of that movie and
go fuck man, get out. It's Rosemary's Baby. It's not.
No nobody thought Rosemary's Baby was a was a comedy.
But yeah, it's a complicated cultural text that I think
different people have a difficult time figuring out how to
react to for various reasons. All Right, we're trying to
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take a sample of what people are talking and thinking
about right now, the zeitgeist, as it were, and we
like to open up by asking our guest what is
a myth? What is something that most people believe to
be true that is in fact false based on your experience.
Oh man, that's a great question. Um off the top
of my head, just because people are starting to get
(09:55):
him right now this time of year. Man, Not to
sound like some hintful hat nut job, but flu shots,
I think that's a croca Jesus. I mean, I've never
had a flu shot as an adult. I guess I
had one when I was a kid or whatever you know,
you had to, But as an adult, I've been on
my own since I was eighteen. I've never voluntarily went
and had a flu shot, never had the flu. So
(10:17):
I'm not I'm not exactly the picture of health either.
And I think my boy another side of the glass,
super producer Nick Stuff is also in the camp no
no flu, right yeah, and just I mean, and again,
I don't want to sound like I'm going off the
deep end with some of the conspiracy stuff, but I
just don't. I'm not going to voluntarily let the government
inject me with something. So your your opposition is like,
(10:39):
I don't want to be voluntarily injected by whatever the
whatever inoculations I don't give me. I don't want that,
and I don't think I need it, don't need it.
But you're putting old people in babies at risk. So
I married a doctor that I married an old baby
and she's always getting no but uh yeah. So basically
(11:02):
this is uh doctor's pet peeve because so adults think
because they don't get the flu, that flu shots don't
do anything. And what the flu shot actually does is
it protects you from being a carrier of it. And
the flu doesn't actually like kill you or sometimes won't
even make you sick, but you can pass it on
to the elderly and young people that you don't express symptoms. Right,
(11:26):
So that's some people just lucky they may be carrying
it and they don't even know. Well, I guess, look,
I don't know. I'm lazy, That's really my excuse. I'm
not even like on some like letting the man inject
me with anything. I'm just sort of like it's just
some more ship to do. I don't have time. Like
I view it as being like an anti vaxe or light.
It's like, oh, yeah, so if you're if you're cool
(11:48):
with like Jenny McCarthy's politics, and yeah, that's that's the
bucket you're in if you're anti flu shot. So okay,
all right, well then you know what I mean. My
wife does secretly control my mind, and I'm definitely like
there's some mind control ship and speaking to keeputting those
fluoride drops in your coffee. That's right, all right, Let's
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get into the stories of the day, you guys. The
doomsday clock gets closer to midnight. There's only two minutes
away from midnight. It hasn't been this close to midnight
since nine is about we are all fun. No, this
actually means nothing. This is a art project by a
bunch of scientists based on, you know, their opinions on
(12:33):
things that they aren't necessarily overly qualified to comment on
such as you know, global and international relations. Granted things
aren't great. I'm not here to tell you like leave
Trump alone. He's doing a great job. But uh, this
is just a art project. Uh, it's a convenient news
(12:55):
peg that you know, the Washington Post can be like. Up,
they move the clock again. Time to rattle off the
same story we've been putting out for the past fifty years.
Wait where did this start? So mid doomsday clock thing?
Because I always thought, like I knew it wasn't like
a real thing, But for whatever reason, I was like,
I guess I have to take it seriously. It has
a lot of cred because it did start with the
(13:17):
scientists from the Manhattan Project. So they basically put together this.
I think it's like a magazine. It's essentially a publication
that talks about, you know, threats to the human species
based on nuclear weapons and now in recent years they
have incorporated climate change. Uh. But it's drug resistant flu right,
(13:42):
because of all those flu shot Right, they just measure
how many people are saying flu shots are a myth
and then take that into it. Wait, we got up.
It is now midnight, and we are all fun. Uh
like other things. They definitely have an anti nuclear bias
when it comes to uh, you know, I think nuclear
weapons are fine. No, when it comes to nuclear power,
(14:03):
like they think that's probably a little bit more dangerous
than uh it actually is in practice. Um, it seems
like there's just an anti nuclear bias, like when it
comes to this publication. So I don't know, I just
I just this everything. No, I'm not pro nuclear everything,
but I do think like there are different stories from
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history about like nuclear power plant meltdowns that were somewhat exaggerated. Um,
and I don't know, like obviously Chernobyl, like it can
go really really badly and has in a few instant
Yeah Chernobyl, Man, I thought, is that one level and
call of duty? Right? Yeah? That's that's deep? Right, So yeah,
(14:49):
maybe I'm maybe I'll look into the two. Was it
ever in a movie or something too? Was that? Don't know,
it seems like it should be or maybe I'm confusing
it with Michael Scott's script Threat Level Midnight, which is
probably some form of a derivation on that. Right now
in some news that does seem to be bringing us
closer to some form of sci fi dystopia. Uh So
(15:13):
there there's a Reddit user named deep fakes who last
year started making porn videos that had uh famous actresses
faces like swapped onto the porn actor's body, and uh
he has since created a subreddit, uh where people are
(15:36):
sharing these videos. And it's like using algorithmic learning to
you know, swap faces of you know, actresses onto porn stars.
But it seems like the sort of thing that you know,
we've talked before on the show about how pornography generally
is like at the forefront of technology, and this is
(15:56):
probably another instance of that where, yes, the first thing
we use this technology for is making pornography with gal
Gado's face on a porn star's body. But eventually this
is going to cause the entire meltdown of society because
whoa yo, I'm sorry, I did not know what it
(16:19):
this looked like, so I'm sorry, I interjected. I was like,
what the hell just happened? I did not see that.
This yo, there, this is scary. It's it's very very,
very subtle. Like it's not like back in the day
when I was looking at Spice Girl fake news as
a young teenager on Sublime directory. This is like this
(16:42):
is whoa, Okay, hold on, I don't even know how
to show something that doesn't get us all sued. Uh yeah,
we people can check it out in their own time.
We were also watching this Bell Oh Jesus, but like
that does look like Christ and Bell. So they're just
using like celebrity still images and then using these like
(17:02):
algorithms to just project to face swap them out right,
kind of like they did with Tony Soprano's mom and
season three. But that was terrible. That was like the
conductor on Polar Express had like those dead eyes. It
was like, yeah, God, yeah, that was so bad. My
rest in peace. But yeah, that Kristen Bell video that
(17:24):
Miles just showed the room and will eventually be fired
for is very realistic looking. Um. And yeah, I mean
there's a video went around I think late last year
that had Obama saying different things, Like they had audio
from Obama saying something when he was like sixteen or
something or probably older than that. Uh, and then they
(17:47):
just like swapped it so that his face as the
President was saying that, and it you know, looked completely realistic.
And um, eventually this is going to change, how like
we won't be able to have videos like the Access
Hollywood video of Trump, you know, talking his ship, without
(18:08):
people being like, oh, it's a fake video. We'll see.
He was saying it was fake, so maybe it's Trump
is time traveling. Well yeah, He's like, you don't know
what I've seen. His problem was that he didn't say
it was fake until a year later. He spent a
year saying it was real. Billy Bush was like, yeah,
I know it's real, and then after a year he
was like, you know that video might have been fake. Hey,
(18:29):
can I say it's Billy Bush was like, yo, that
was but that's scary. Yeah, if you haven't even seen that,
Like they basically have photoshop for your voice, you know,
and like combining that with this kind of machine learning.
I mean, I don't want to predict this, but I'm
sure at one point there will be some kind of
massive hoax that like is very, very troubling because people
are gonna like this software get very sophisticated, and you're
(18:51):
gonna think you're seeing somebody saying or doing something that
they absolutely didn't. Oh yeah yeah. Our writer Sam Rabman
h quote an expert from the Electronic Frontiers Foundation who said, uh,
you can make fake videos with neural networks today, but
people will be able to tell that you've done that
if you look closely, and some of the techniques involved
remain pretty advanced, so like it's hard to do, but
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that's not going to stay true for more than a
year or two. So in a year or two, like
around the next election, there's going to be the ability
for everybody, like you won't need to be an expert,
like look, Bernie smoke and crack, right, a lot of
explaining to do, yes, uh so heay, But that could
work in the other way too, because people can make
(19:36):
wild videos of Trump to and weird ship too, so
you know, it'll probably be a very fun smear campaign
for everybody. The difficulty is there probably are wild videos
of like, for instance, there's supposedly this video out there
from the set of The Apprentice where he would just
say wildly racist things like during the taping of the
Apprentice parts like in the boardroom, Yeah, in the boardroom,
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just like in the tween shots and uh those you
know videos, those audio tapes exist somewhere, but by the
time they get released, he'll be able to be like
those are those are fake? Not me? Yeah, all right,
We're gonna take a quick break and we'll be right back.
(20:27):
And we're back. And you guys, I've been binging for
the past couple of days. Uh, and I am just
feeling great. Actually, it's yeah, thank you. I feel on
top of the world. Uh. No, I've been binging. This podcast,
slow Burn, that is from Slate Media and it's about
the Watergate like basically the unfolding of the Watergate news story,
(20:52):
which you know, I knew the basics of the Watergate story,
but this basically looks back at news story reason as
they were happening, and you know, audio from the story
as they were happening, and talks to people who were
there about like what the experience was like has lived
because it's really easy to look back at huge news
(21:14):
stories and be like, well, that was, you know, a
big deal. It was momentous when those burglars were caught.
But when the seven people were arraigned in a courtroom
in d C, like the day after they were caught
breaking into the Democratic National headquarters with tape recording material
(21:34):
and bugging material. The only reason Bob Wood was there
was because he was covering the local news desk and
like picked it up on a police bladder. Like nobody
covered it for the first few months, and even the
Washington Post, which was like on the trail, was widely
believed to be just doing a liberal hatchet job on Nixon.
(21:54):
Nobody believed that Nixon had anything to do with it. Yeah,
they basically thought that because most of the story, like
it happened months before the election, so a lot of
the reporting on it people thought was them trying to
help McGovern the guy that Nixon was running against. Didn't
force Gump snitch on them, yes, and yeah, good old
(22:17):
boy from Bayou La Battery, right, that wasn't that the
Yeah didn't he wasn't he like looking across because like
Nix was like, and then he saw the people with
the flashlights me some flesh, all right, anyway, we can't
escape him. The reason that they actually got caught is
they kept taping the door handle so that it wouldn't
lock behind them, and like the security guard was like, weird,
(22:39):
that's weird, there's tape there. And then he came back
by for like his next round, and there was like
tape there again. He was like what the fuck? Like
they weren't even they were just like bad at their job,
even though like one of them was a CIA agent. Uh,
what were they looking for specifically? So they weren't looking
for anything they were changing out like surveillance material. They
were tapping the Democrat at National Committee. So the other
(23:02):
thing that I hadn't fully appreciated. So Nixon ends up
winning that next election that he was tapping them like
in preparation for uh, in a landslide by like I
think twenty three percentage points in the overall vote. Uh,
McGovern won a single state. So it was just this
like all out as kicking, and I had always taken
(23:24):
it as Nixon was this like crazy paranoid guy who
did this despite the fact that he was going to
win regardless, like there was no stopping him, obviously because
of how much he won by. So he wanted McGovern
to win the Democratic primary because he knew he would
destroy him. McGovern had like he was sort of the
Bernie of his day, but even less broad support, and
(23:46):
his legacy still haunts Democrats today the mcgoverned effect, don't
go too far left now, And so he wanted McGovern
to come out of the primary. The guy who was
favored and who Nixon really didn't want was this guy
edm Usky from Maine. And the reason ed Muskie didn't win,
and he was like definitely more centrist and had a
(24:07):
much better shot at beating Nixon. The reason he didn't
win is because the Nixon campaign, the Committee to re
Elect the President, which was acronym does creep. Uh. The
reason that Muskie didn't win was because the Nixon campaign
like fucked with him. They did like all sorts of
you know, shady ship in addition to you know, tapping
(24:29):
the d n C headquarters and like knowing everything they
were about to do before they did it. Uh, They
would like go through the hotel hallway of where the
Muskie campaign was staying, and you know, back then you
left your shoes out to be shined by the hotel
and they would just pick up all their shoes and
throw them in a dumpster. Like so the guys would
(24:49):
just like not have shoes the next day and be
late for ship. The night before the New Hampshire primary,
they called like everyone in New amp Sure at midnight
as and like spoke with black sense and talked to
the people about how Ed Muskie was gonna like help
bring black people like rights back and stuff that they
(25:13):
knew would scare white New Hampshire voters and it was
successful um in the election. And then they sent a
letter to the editor in a New Hampshire newspaper that
was like really shady and like talked about his wife
being like a loose woman when who like you know,
(25:33):
smoked cigarettes and was like unladylike and just like really
shady ship and so Muskie like, I was so pissed.
He had a press conference where he was like if
that coward publisher was next to me, he or like
he should be glad he's not next to me, because
I kick his ass, like and then he like broke
down crying because they had like so much and so
(25:56):
that like the guy who would have had a shot
against Nixon he psychologically fucked with until he broke down
in front of people. And that's like why he ended
up running against McGovern who was the worst possible candidate
for the Democrats to run and Nixon knew it. And
then the other thing that is just interesting. I mean,
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there are a lot of interesting parallels. Like during the
course of the events, the Republicans were being really obstructionists.
There were a couple of times when they almost successfully
killed the story. Like there was a Texas politician who
like immediately he had some experience with Nixon, and he
like immediately was like, you know, this seems like it
(26:39):
goes all the way to the top. When the guys
were arrested, and so he put together an investigation. They
had all the leads that we were in Bernstein Head
and Republicans and the Nixon administration successfully shut it down
by just like some bullshit excuse saying that like it
wouldn't be fair to the seven robbers because their case
was still being prosecuted. And then there was like a
(27:01):
Senate hearing that Republicans tried to like make about all
the things that like Democrats did that were like unfair
to Republicans, exactly what about is ms. The only reason
that Watergate ended up becoming a thing is because the
head of that Senate committee was like this respected Democrat
(27:24):
who was also sort of a conservative racist, and so
he had like both sides kind of supporting him, and
he was able to like keep it on track and
like block the Republicans from you know, making it about
you know what about this. Well, they also did that
so like aggressively just pivoting away from like the facts
of like, well there's all this time, like can I
(27:46):
talk about something Democrats did? So there's a lot of
details that you know, as it's happening people. Uh. There's
also uh episode about people who are standing by Nixon
like during the investigation or like the liberal media is
just trying to take him down, like he just wants
to be like, you know, be the law and order president.
(28:09):
Was there his term for, you know, basically being racist? Uh?
And a lot of you know, blue collar, working class people,
white people were all about that and thought that the
whole Watergate investigation was just a conspiracy cooked up by
(28:29):
the left wing media. And then they thought that until they,
you know, the facts became too much. So it's interesting
to see as somebody at the time would have viewed
it and wonder how like the modern climate would have
reacted to some of these things, like is there a
possibility that something in the Russia investigation could be too
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much for Trump supporters to ignore? You know, here's a
dumb question. Was Gerald Ford Nixon's vice president? His vice
president for most of the time was Spiro Agnew, but
he got caught up in the whole scandal and had
to resign and then Gerald Ford took over. But Ford
like pops up a couple of times in the story
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of Watergate, just kind of being a an apologist for Nixon,
but uh, you know, being a little bit more outside
of the Nixon administration than some of the other people
who got taken down. So speaking of you know, our
present day Watergate, Uh, there's been not not that many developments,
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but a couple, right. Trump yesterday said he's willing to
talk to under oath. He was leaving John Kelly's office
and like there were some reporters out there and they
caught him like that with a little impromptu, a little
back and forth conversation with the press where he clearly
just was freestyle into and Trump Jet a s which
(30:01):
is very frightening to all his handlers because you don't
know what tune he's gonna play. And Yeah, when he
was asked about the MoMA investigations, like, oh, yeah, I'll
speak to them, I'll speak to them under oath. Yeah,
He's like, I'll speak to f behind oath. Clearly there's
a couple of things he's mistaken here. Uh. First, I
think he just doesn't know what testified under oath means
that you can't lie, but also that there's even a
(30:21):
distinction of being under oath and lying versus lying to
the FBI. They're still felonies. Uh, there's just different statutes.
So you cannot lie to the FBI even if you're
not under oath, And if you were under oath, that
means you would be probably most likely in this case,
in front of a grand jury. So I don't think
he wants to be in front of a grand jury
with like Bob Mueller, who is a very seasoned prosecutor,
(30:42):
like asking the questions, because as we know, I don't
even know if this guy can keep his fact straights,
like in his own head. So like, and you think
about too, like the the amount of preparation like Trump's
lawyers would have to do just to be like, okay,
if the line of question goes this way, like this
is what we're doing. He doesn't have the mental bandwidth
to be like okay, okay. So if you if you
starts talking about George Papadopolas, like we're do this, nah,
(31:03):
I think he's just gonna say whatever the funk he wants,
and it could be a real problem. Um. The other
thing is that, like I think right after ty Cobb
was having to like just clean up the mess and
was like, oh he's he said all that in a
very hurried state, so you know what we do what
we don't know, and that's not exactly what we want
to do. So it was basically a very odd moment.
And then along with that, he also kind of made
(31:25):
reference to that he thought of a path to citizenship
for some of the people under DACA, uh, like ten
to twelve years. I mean, I think that's probably most
likely coming out of the immigration plan that he's gonna
unveil on Monday. But really, I think what was interesting
is just the fact that he was kept talking like, well,
I bet Hillary wasn't under oath with the FBI or whatever,
Like he's still obsessed with her that I'm sure if
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you if Robert Muller was just like, you know, Obama
and Hillary Clinton uh had some of the best relationships
with the Russians. I don't know if you knew that
the president of like, oh yeah, well, I'm actually I've
been talking to them since about me becoming president. Like
I feel like conbate him into this coming clean with it.
If you just use this Obama and Hillary comparison, because
he's fucking obsessed still, so it will be very very interesting.
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And I think along with what you're saying, like there's
been a lot of obstructionists sort of what about ing
and all kinds of straight up conspiracy bullshit that's been
happening with the GOP trying to discredit the FBI, because
the FBI clearly has a lot of information that could
be very troubling for for Donald Trump. Like, namely, there
was the whole release the memo thing where like Devin
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noone was like, I got this memo. I wrote that
I wrote that's like telling you about all the crazy
ship the FBI is doing. And everyone's like, released the
memo and he's like, well, okay, I'll only show it
to House Republicans and then like Senate Republicans are like,
like the Senate Intelligence Communite's like, hey, can we see it?
And he was like nah nah, And then like basically
(32:51):
he was only going to show it to people who
didn't have the same intelligence information he did to be
able to be like dude, this is all wrong, right,
I'm I've seen the same things you've seen, and you
can't draw these conclusions from that ship. So it was
so transparent that now he's kind of like totally backbeddling
on releasing the memo, which makes sense because it was
just a fucking weird distraction the whole time. Yeah, a
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distraction from the fact that there was a secret society.
So Republican Ron Johnson of Wisconsin, Yeah, uh, came out
and pointed out that there was a text message I
believe where one FBI agent talked to the other about
having a secret society meeting, and so therefore, ergo, uh,
(33:35):
they are probably had a secret anti Trump society where
they were planning the takedown of the White House. Huh,
it's all happening. Uh. So here's Ron Johnson being questioned
about that on NPR, because when you see the entire
context of that text message, it appears that they were
saying that completely ingest. Yeah. Absolutely. It was the day
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after Trump was voted like won the election, and they
were like, I guess we'll have to have a secret
society meeting, and they just went secret. Oh, here we go,
Tomic pizza. Right. So today he was or maybe early
this morning, he was on NPR asked about these comments.
That he made to Brett Bear. So first, let's just
hear when Ron Johnson came out swinging with the secret society.
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Ship we have we have an informant that's talking about
a group that were holding secret meetings off site. There
are there's so much smoke here, there's so much special
let's let's stop. There a secret society, the secret meetings
offside of the Justice Department. Correct, And you have an
informant saying that, yes, is there anything more about that? No,
(34:40):
we have to dig into not but I mean the
way he said, the way he said yes, and you
have two informants yes, yes, yeah, so yeah. Then NPR
was like, hey, do you know that that was like
a joke, right and based on a text? Y, So
this is him talking to someone that isn't on Fox
It okay. Well you also you also focused on two
(35:02):
words from one of the texts, which was a secret society.
I didn't other people brought that up. You suggest that
this could this might mean a secret group within the
FBI holding meetings off site. And you went on to
say this could mean corruption at the highest levels of
the FBI. But I was talking about that reference may
have been a joke. I'm just wondering to feel you
might have jumped to conclusions here. No, all I was
(35:22):
connecting is we you know, I have all kinds of
people come in our tour in front of our committee
giving us information. And I had heard that there were
off site meetings, so I was just connecting the dots there.
It could be a joke. Those off site meetings could
be completely harmless. Oh he didn't mention on Fox fucking
sticky your fucking chest out on Fox secret societies and
(35:45):
they're like, oh, I mean yeah, like they could be joke.
You could completely hardened listening. But that was like months later,
right Oh wait, No, No, that interview was the next
next day, so absolutely nothing had changed. And the other
thing too, I just want to bring it, like with Trump,
how quickly it was so transparent. He is something to
hide when when asked like will you know, speak to
ing like ill going to oath, like really really bluff
(36:09):
in there, you know. And that's say like the second
that his lawyers talk to him, he's like, well, my
lawyers will have to lawyer. Yeah what my attorneys? Maybe
I shouldn't do it. I don't know, I can't imagine him.
If Trump is able to actually pull off not fully
melting down in front of Robert Mueller and self perjurying himself,
(36:32):
uh like, then maybe I will believe that he has
some kind of there's some hidden mental capacity in there,
because in my mind, the way this would play out
was him just thinking he's talking to somebody that like
is under him and he can just say whatever the
funk he wants to without like understanding that he is
still this is a like criminal thing. Isn't like a hey,
like you didn't you didn't wire my unit in your
(36:54):
building for electricity, blah blah blah, Like this is like
criminal ship Like this is a very different matter. Um.
Roger Stone one of Trump's oldest and strongest advocates, who
also has a tattoo of Richard Nixon on his back
because that's the kind of guy he is. He does yeah, yeah,
of Nixon's face. I think he just thinks he's handsome.
(37:17):
That's all. Probably has my pits, but um, he any
relation by the way, Roger Stone, Um, Anyways, he has
said for a while now that Trump going in front
of Mueller and just like having a conversation with Mueller
would be a quote suicide mission, like he he knows
(37:37):
Trump well enough to be like, yeah, no, that's my friend.
He's not smart enough to handle this, Like that would
not be good. We we should not let that happen. Um.
So yeah, because he's being his handlers. This is the
double edged sword of having all these sycophants around you,
because they're gaslighting him into thinking everything's okay, everything's gonna
be okay, and this isn't really a problem. Yeah. I
(38:00):
called it our Watergate earlier. You know that it could
entirely turn out to be just him fucking himself by
not being bright or honest enough to like handle the questioning,
and it might not be a thing where he was,
you know, actually gaining all that much of an advantage
from his you know, any connection to Russia. But or
(38:23):
if it's the obstruction charts too, because that was another
interesting thing he said yesterday, because the first time he
used the word obstruction, because normally he's like, there's no
collusion and no collusion, no collusion, and then yesterday he's like,
there's no clusion whatsoever, there's no obstruction whatsoever. So clearly
someone tipped him off, like, you know, there's another thing.
But you might even be worried about is the fact
that you may have obstructed justice when you fire James
(38:43):
call me right, he said, is it obstruction for me
to fight back and fight back against this investigation? Like?
And it's like, yes, how was that not obstruction? He's
working out the definition of ruction, like in public for
all of us to see. Oh, what I can't do
(39:04):
by any means necessary to get the heat off my friends,
So stay tuned, sty but in true Trump fashion, like, oh,
when do you think of me with him? And we
all know what the preloaded answer for any duration of
time with him two to three weeks. Everything is two
to three weeks with him. So yeah, that was probably
a total lie to the other big difference. I'm pretty
sure the Democrats held at least one of the houses
(39:26):
at the time of the Watergate uh investigation, and they
are kind of completely powerless. So I'm not holding my
breath for anything interesting to happen with this investigation or
with Trump's uh you know, actually status until that changes.
But we shall see. All right, We're gonna take a
(39:49):
quick break, We'll be right back, and we're back. We're
just looking at Roger Stone's back. Dave actually told us
that it's actually his dad. He didn't pop put him
in an awkward position. Wait, he looks like you know
(40:10):
when you fly in the magazine that's in the front
pocket of the thing. And there's always that one old
as doctor who's like, I look like I'm twenty six
years old, shirt off, Like that's like what Roger Stones
like that weird airplane magazine buff doctor. Yo. Of course
that's Trump's best friend. Yeah, there's a picture of him
shirt let's smoking a cigar. He's definitely hd h ng up.
(40:34):
It's funny. The other elderly conservative who loves to be
photographed with his shirt off is the Dilbert guy, Scott Adams,
and like he doesn't doesn't look that. He like he's like, yeah,
well do you think fifty five year old would look
like this? And it's like, yeah, that's about what a
fifty five year old who works out would look like.
Uh but anyways, this a little nerd Yeah, um, dude,
(40:59):
Scott Adams is fascinating. He like, at a certain point
lost his voice, not like a physical thing happened, he
just stopped being able to speak, like neurological or I
don't know, like nobody has explained it. Really, he just
like stopped talking. Uh, he's a he's a very strange guy.
(41:20):
He also his house is built to be shaped like
Dilbert's head. Um it is. Yeah, no, Scott Adams is
we should just do maybe we should do a whole
week Gilbert week, Dilbert Week. But first, before any of that,
we need to talk about what's going on in Russia
right now. They are trying to you know, take down
(41:41):
our democracy right Uh. That and they're also filming some
pre dope viral videos. So uh, you know, we generally
the the image of Russia that we get is that
everybody is loyal to Putin and it's this you know,
a bunch of hat cker is doing the bidding of
(42:02):
their iron fisted leader. Um. And you know, another thing
that we hear about is how homophobic Russia is. Uh.
I know people who visited there who you know, it
was a Friday night and Putin's biker gang, who like
is like secretly his paramilitary force was going around like
rounding up and beating up gay people in Russia. Just
(42:25):
like that's how publicly homophobic the culture is over there. Well,
apparently like they don't get buy in on that culture
from all generations and uh, you know, younger Russians are
actually sane and they're like, well this is crazy, like uh.
(42:46):
And so a group of flight students at Russian Pilot
College aviation college, uh, the Olyanovsk Institute of Civil Aviation
filmed themselves as like a bunch of dos uh in
their underwear, like twerking, and one dude was like deep
throating a banana over and out of champ um and uh.
(43:14):
It went viral immediately, and you know, the public outcry
from the you know, totally not state controlled media was
like these people should be ashamed of themselves. They're disgrace
to the aviation industry. But then like like they're probably gay, right,
But then all these other colleges started filming their own
(43:38):
version of this video and like so now this is
like the hot ship to do in Russian college, right,
It's the Harlem Shake of Russian colleges, which, by the way,
I suggest you watched them just because they're fun videos,
but also because uh you get an image of like
what Russian college looks like. Yeah, the dorm of the
(44:01):
nearby agricultural college that are uploaded The second twerking video
looks like a haunted, abandoned hospital. It looks like the
set of The Ring. It really does. It's like, damn,
that's that's college in Russia. Um. But it's just wild
though two Like, you know, because he's like they were
wearing like bondage outfits, like a couple of people had
(44:23):
like gear that you're like, oh, okay, this might be
your thing. But like the because Russia is so homophobic,
Like I can totally see why this kind of thing
is going to happen because it's it's treated such a taboo,
such a taboo that suddenly you get all these dudes together,
like the one of the guys like rubbing each other
with shaving cream. Like some of the videos do a
really funny job of like escalating like how homo erotic behavior.
(44:46):
Yeah yeah, just shout out to you guys doing your
things and young men figuring it out, having a good time.
I'm always amused by like frat boy culture, like how
far they're willing to take the joke, right yeah right, ah,
we're not gay video kiss some more tongue though, man Dick,
I don't exactly got him. This is just so funny
(45:09):
to be that it starts off being like this is
unbelievable and then just spreads like they're like, you know
what we're gonna do the satisfaction challenge. Memes in Russia
don't funk around. There is a a meme from probably
like five to ten years ago that we covered un
Cracked about like there was some photograph of a guy
(45:30):
hanging out his window by one hand because the husband
had just come home and found him in bed. So
that was like an actual photograph that got taken, and
then like it became a meme to be photographed hanging
out of windows like by one arm, and like that
was like the cool, like fun meme to be taken.
(45:50):
They're pretty pretty hardcore. I will play with my life
for the likes um. And finally, so we we don't
hear much about cool sponsored content. Uh. In fact, the
Intercept podcast today talked about how the brands are going
directly to the journalists and they're submitting articles without telling
(46:14):
the publications that they are sponsored by these things. So
the journalists themselves is getting like the sponsorship money and
it's just being published by like the Huffing and Post
or you know, Fast company and outlets like this that
are just you know, in the bulk publishing business. Um.
And you know then when you google like whether that
(46:36):
product is good or not, you go to you get
the result of this article that looks for all intensive purposes,
Like it's totally not sponsored. And don't they have to
disclose that it's sponsored content? Who the journalists? The journalists? Yeah,
I mean ethically yes they should, but because journalists don't
make any money, like because the Huffington Post was like, yeah,
(46:58):
we don't pay our journalists. It's like, but we give
them a great outlet for lots of people to see,
and they cut to every person. You went to college,
is like, you know, I was in I wrote for
the Huffington Post, right and I'm in Wikipedia bro um. Yeah,
so that's an example of bed sponsored content. But uh,
Burger King just created a video that I'm actually okay with. Uh.
(47:19):
It's about net neutrality and it uses whoppers as a
metaphor for net neutrality and how net neutrality works. Where
basically like they had people who ordered whoppers like wait
twenty minutes for their whopper while other people were getting
faster whoppers and they were like, oh, they paid for
the high speed whopper package and then guys like so
(47:42):
there's like fast lanes for the food or something, and
he's like yeah, yeah, yeah, and he's like, well how
much to get mine now night? And they're like what
the amazing thing is? Like they're a couple of people
who my favorite kind of person someone who gets upset
at a fast food restaurant, Like at the people. This
one guy there, like he's like, well, how long did
you have to wait? He's like about fifteen twenty minutes
(48:03):
for the package you got And he's like he's like
mimes like ripping his hair and he's like, I don't
this is not good. Like a few people you get
fucking pissed about hearing that their whopper is not coming
in time. Yeah. One one guy that says this is
the worst thing I've ever heard of, which he apparently
is a holocaust denier or something, because this is the
(48:27):
worst thing I have ever heard of. Right, Um, But
it's a good video. I think it makes sense of
what a world without net neutrality could look like. Uh.
And it ends with a shot at our boy, edgy Pie,
who at the very end of the video, it has
the King drinking out of an oversized Reese's peanut butter
cup mug. That's like his trademark. Yeah, so Edgy Pie
(48:50):
for people who haven't listened to every single one of
our episodes, is the FCC chairman who uh is basically
killing net neutrality, but he fancies himself a comedian and
his funny thing that he does is he pulls he
brings out a coffee mug that is like jokes, it's
like jokes sizes, it's like a huge coffee mug and
(49:11):
like takes a sip out of it, and it's like,
that's pretty funny. Yeah, it is funny, but yeah, he
does it as a reveal, like he'll come be talking
at a party like yeah, I'm blah blah blah, and
then just be like, look how big my coffee and
damn man, where I'm glad prop comedy is back. I
got some other ideas to exactly. Yeah, that's his giant
all right, that is going to do it for today's show. David,
(49:33):
it's been a blast having you. Thanks for having me, guys. Yeah,
where can people find you? Follow you? Twitter is at
Dave Stone Comedy and uh yeah, Boogy Monster Podcast, Me
and Cocanane. New episodes every Tuesday, And what's the show about. Uh,
It's supposed to be about conspiracy theories and paranormal and
supernatural like big foot, aliens, stuff like that, but usually
(49:55):
we just wind up talking about fried chicken and beer.
Uh yeah, we we. We attempt to tackle a new
paranormal topic every week, but sometimes little we don't really
get to it. Sometimes. What's your favorite chicken product that
is made by like a national chan for our national Well,
first of all, I won't get into my disdain for
(50:17):
talk about conspiracies. How like Big Chicken is trying to
convince us that white meat chicken is somehow premium. I'm
a dark meat guy, thank you. The leg and the thigh.
That's where it's at. This whole all white meat. Who
gives a ship gets dry dry Take your dry ass
hormone ridden breast elsewhere. Uh that's a weird sentence. But
I'm a I'm a big Popeye's guy around here. Um,
(50:40):
they don't have it out here, but in the Southeast
where I'm from, there's a regional chain called the Bojangles.
Is insane, really good chickens, good biscuits, breakfast, all day zax,
be solid. Yeah, I like nswers get around here, probably
Popeyes as far as national. Yeah. Sorry, see I took
his outro into full chicken conversation because I love Yeah.
(51:02):
People need to know. People have to know. Miles Where
can people follow you? I might be following Dave to
uh man the weight is under an hour. You know,
I have I have nightmares about that place because I
wanted so bad. But everyone I know has to go
for hours, you know, I have no and I just
everyone comes back and like it's worth it, man, Like
they look like they saw Coig really good. But anyway, Yeah,
(51:25):
if you're interesting social media, you can just find me
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(51:47):
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we used for research for this episode. And that is
going to do it for today's show. We will be
back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast. Talk to
you guys then bye. M
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season fifteen, Episode four,
Daily Zight Guys for January eight. Team. My name is
Jack O'Brien a K bow Jack Yellow courtesy of Dale Chaplin,
and I am joined by my co host, Mr Miles Gray.
That's right, Hi, it's me Miles. Hey. Why don't we
just go eat some hay or make things out of
(00:20):
clay lay by the bay? I just may what do you? Gray?
Thank you so much because I'm pretty sure that's a
happy deep cut. Uh. And that is from Blackadive, So
thank you at Blackadive keeping it laxative but for black people.
I don't know, however you want to market that black
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Jack sative anyway. Cool, Well, this has been fun. Uh.
We are thrilled to be joined on our third seat
by the co host of Boogie Monster with Kyle Knee
Uh and the hilarious stand up comedian Dave Stone. What's up, guys?
What's up Dave? How you doing? I'm great. I'm excited
to have you here. Are you been in air stand up? Yeah?
(01:01):
I'm still in the van. You are in the van? Yeah,
it's pretty cool, dude. That was bringing it up. Yeah, yeah,
I just had to. You know, that's one of my
favorite bits. You guys have to if I was ignorant,
I see you are, how talented you are, And it
was man, I fucking was cracking up. Thank you. I've
been kind of it's been like kind of on again,
off again residents for ever since I moved to l
(01:22):
A six years ago. I was in it for a
couple of years and I got out of a couple
of years. Now I'm back because the show businesses, uh
just wishy washing. Yeah, you can't. You can't count on
anything but dab. What's something from your search history that
is revealing about who you are as a human being? Oh?
Search history, I don't know. This week if you looked
at it, you might see how to skin a deer.
(01:45):
I've just been very curious on how to skill of
skin animals. Just uh well, I'm just u with the
current political climate, I'm preparing for the worst. So how
to be catching your own food, making your own buckskin.
You know, I'm our halfway there with a van, so
I'm already halfway off the grid. So you know, if
need be, I need to know how to kill animals
(02:06):
and skin them and eat them. You know, is skinny
a dear easy? It appears to be so yeah, I
mean it's it's a bit gruesome. Yeah, it doesn't doesn't
take a genius to figure it out. But yeah, there's techniques.
You gotta hang it the right way, and you gotta
make the incisions and then you can just kind of
peel it off. Yeah, I'm all bore you with the details.
But yeah, it's also a good thing to google while
(02:26):
like making eye contact with somebody over over the top
of your phone. Skin and animal, what's something you think
is over it? Oh? Man, I just saw a Ladybird,
So I mean it's I enjoyed it. Yeah, yeah, I
don't know. Not to get all, you know, too judgmental
(02:46):
about the oscars, but like, I don't know the best picture.
I think the best picture I think of just this
grand epic film, not just white girls have and growing pains.
It's weird because yeah, you're not the first person to
come in saying Ladybird was overrated. Like everyone has the
same thing. Like I'm not saying it's a bad and
I loved Laurie Metcalf, she was great, but just best
(03:08):
picture I think Schindler's List, Godfather, and then you know
there's nothing really even not to give spoilers, but like
there was not even a huge major conflict that you
can get behind. It was just like, oh, well, let's
spoiler alert, nothing happens. I do feel like they, yeah,
it's a good You feel like that's a real high
school community. I don't know, you feel it feels lived in.
(03:31):
But what do you think about the Oscars who were
talking about this with the with the nominations coming out
that sometimes like actual films that deserve to be in
the Best Picture categories don't often get nominated because sometimes
we feel that like the Oscars have to celebrate like
the most grand feats of filmmaking. If something was just
a really great, solid movie, that it can be in
(03:52):
that in that consideration, or you're just sort of more
of the idea of like these have to be feats
of like real real cinema, real filmmaking. I mean, I
just think, you know, I mean, it's it's simple to say,
but just the best movies, you know, regard. I feel
like there is an agenda with the Oscars as far
as like what's your movie about or what you know,
what caused, does it promote and and and all. That's
(04:12):
fine as far as like, you know, themes and stuff
like that. But I feel like some movies, some lesser movies,
because they have a good theme, you know, they probably
get the nod as opposed to another movie. I don't know,
like war movies. I know dun Kirk got nominated, but
a lot of times war movies don't get you know,
because it's a little right landing or it's a little
aggro or whatever. But I don't know, I feel like
(04:33):
themes sometimes seems to be a little more important than
the actual quality of the film. So but I can't
give you an example of a movie that didn't get
nominated this year that I thought it should. But I
don't know. I just missed the days of like, oh man,
that was a freaking movie, not just so here's a
quirky little and I love indie films, a little slice
of life stuff, but like sometimes I just oh, really
(04:54):
best picture that So the year that Forrest Gump, Pulp Fiction,
and Shank Redemption all came out, they were all nominated.
Who do you think should have won between those three?
Oh man, that's a tough one. I can't even remember
who did win? Did Forrest Gump, Forrest Gum one? And
I feel like Forrest Gump has that like big sprawling
(05:14):
mass appeal. Yeah, exactly, and it felt like, wow, that
that's one that in the theater, you're like, man, that
I just had an experience. Yeah, that that was definitely
that would qualify under like, well, that's an epic movie.
But pulp fiction changed the game for years to come.
And then Shaws might be the most like rewatchable movie
of all times. So it's it's tough. Those are all.
(05:36):
I think. That's a good a good Oscar race to
kind of look back on, uh, figure out where you
stand just on cinema in general. I mean, yeah, I
loved pulp fiction changed the game for me too as
far as like it it kind of and it's probably
a common thought, but like it kind of introduced me
to indie film, to independent film as far as you
(05:58):
don't even though it was nominated for an Oscar, it's
still just the way it was made and yeah, and
just the stylistically obviously that was kind of a trend setter.
Oh yeah, yeah, that soundtrack to it's you know, it's
infectious when you remember the interludes on the thing that
had like the dialogue and I'm like, yeah, yeah. The
soundtrack Quiz Show also came out that year, also a
(06:19):
really get great movie brought to you by Jarital Yes,
all right, and what's something you think is underrated? Well,
sticking with the entertainment theme, Uh, it just just started
season three. But I don't hear my friends talking about Baskets. Baskets.
It is so good. It's so funny, it's so dark,
(06:41):
it's it's got so much heart, Like it was really
hard to be that funny and to have that much heart.
Usually shows or movies that have a lot of heart, like,
all right, that's a little hacky, right right, right? Who
gives a ship? But like, I mean, they're just hitting it,
they're just bulls eye. I didn't started season three, but
the first two. I got three episodes into the first season,
I was like, how is everyone not saying this is
(07:01):
one of the greatest shows that's out right now? I
don't know why it because it's crazy, like it's exact
galvin Akis is in it, and you feel like that
would be enough for people to really like put all
the praise on it or attention on it, but I
don't know, but there's like a real sadness to it. Yeah,
there's like a sadness and yeah, there's heart to it
where it's so it's not just like him, you know.
(07:22):
I think the stuff that he was doing and like
the hangover and stuff like it also appealed to like
bros Man stuff like that where baskets has you need
a little emotional intelligence. Yeah, I I agree. It's it's
at that weird cross section where you know, comedies don't
get nominated for awards like we were talking about, and
(07:42):
this feels like an actual piece of art that yeah,
you know, especially Louie Anderson, that is like the most
underrated thing about that show, Like be on the show
being great, but I feel like even Louis Man I can't.
It's it's amazing. Totally forget or I totally forget that
that's a dude, yeah like his It's just it's like
the crazy, sweet old grandmother type who loves Kirkland signature everything.
(08:05):
YEA loves Arby's speaking of oscars real quick. I just
wanted not to change gears, but I love to get
out is that a comedy? I know it didn't get
nominated for But the whole reason that happened is because
the Golden Globes. It was nominated for Comedy musical. And
that's only because studios with the Golden Globes they have
the option to submit a film under a specific category.
(08:28):
So they clearly saw that the dramatic film category was
way too congested. So the same thing with The Martian.
You remember The Martian few years ago, was yeah, it
was nominated as a comedy. I think they have one actually,
but yeah, that was like the studio doing that, not
the press being like, oh, yeah, this is a comedy.
And I know, like the argument is I could said
like a very dark, satirical look at society, and you can,
(08:49):
you can say that, but I mean, personally, I don't
view it as like a comedy comedy, just like an
amazing like thriller when I get the loophole there, But
I've even read reviews where people reference the comedy in
it and I can't even think of it. The only
comedic elements I can think of or was his buddy
who was cat sitting or whatever. You know, he was funny, right,
but like, there was really nothing funny about that movie. Yeah,
(09:12):
I don't think you walk out of that movie and
go fuck man, get out. It's Rosemary's Baby. It's not.
No nobody thought Rosemary's Baby was a was a comedy.
But yeah, it's a complicated cultural text that I think
different people have a difficult time figuring out how to
react to for various reasons. All Right, we're trying to
(09:35):
take a sample of what people are talking and thinking
about right now, the zeitgeist, as it were, and we
like to open up by asking our guest what is
a myth? What is something that most people believe to
be true that is in fact false based on your experience.
Oh man, that's a great question. Um off the top
of my head, just because people are starting to get
(09:55):
him right now this time of year. Man, Not to
sound like some hintful hat nut job, but flu shots,
I think that's a croca Jesus. I mean, I've never
had a flu shot as an adult. I guess I
had one when I was a kid or whatever you know,
you had to, But as an adult, I've been on
my own since I was eighteen. I've never voluntarily went
and had a flu shot, never had the flu. So
(10:17):
I'm not I'm not exactly the picture of health either.
And I think my boy another side of the glass,
super producer Nick Stuff is also in the camp no
no flu, right yeah, and just I mean, and again,
I don't want to sound like I'm going off the
deep end with some of the conspiracy stuff, but I
just don't. I'm not going to voluntarily let the government
inject me with something. So your your opposition is like,
(10:39):
I don't want to be voluntarily injected by whatever the
whatever inoculations I don't give me. I don't want that,
and I don't think I need it, don't need it.
But you're putting old people in babies at risk. So
I married a doctor that I married an old baby
and she's always getting no but uh yeah. So basically
(11:02):
this is uh doctor's pet peeve because so adults think
because they don't get the flu, that flu shots don't
do anything. And what the flu shot actually does is
it protects you from being a carrier of it. And
the flu doesn't actually like kill you or sometimes won't
even make you sick, but you can pass it on
to the elderly and young people that you don't express symptoms. Right,
(11:26):
So that's some people just lucky they may be carrying
it and they don't even know. Well, I guess, look,
I don't know. I'm lazy, That's really my excuse. I'm
not even like on some like letting the man inject
me with anything. I'm just sort of like it's just
some more ship to do. I don't have time. Like
I view it as being like an anti vaxe or light.
It's like, oh, yeah, so if you're if you're cool
(11:48):
with like Jenny McCarthy's politics, and yeah, that's that's the
bucket you're in if you're anti flu shot. So okay,
all right, well then you know what I mean. My
wife does secretly control my mind, and I'm definitely like
there's some mind control ship and speaking to keeputting those
fluoride drops in your coffee. That's right, all right, Let's
(12:10):
get into the stories of the day, you guys. The
doomsday clock gets closer to midnight. There's only two minutes
away from midnight. It hasn't been this close to midnight
since nine is about we are all fun. No, this
actually means nothing. This is a art project by a
bunch of scientists based on, you know, their opinions on
(12:33):
things that they aren't necessarily overly qualified to comment on
such as you know, global and international relations. Granted things
aren't great. I'm not here to tell you like leave
Trump alone. He's doing a great job. But uh, this
is just a art project. Uh, it's a convenient news
(12:55):
peg that you know, the Washington Post can be like. Up,
they move the clock again. Time to rattle off the
same story we've been putting out for the past fifty years.
Wait where did this start? So mid doomsday clock thing?
Because I always thought, like I knew it wasn't like
a real thing, But for whatever reason, I was like,
I guess I have to take it seriously. It has
a lot of cred because it did start with the
(13:17):
scientists from the Manhattan Project. So they basically put together this.
I think it's like a magazine. It's essentially a publication
that talks about, you know, threats to the human species
based on nuclear weapons and now in recent years they
have incorporated climate change. Uh. But it's drug resistant flu right,
(13:42):
because of all those flu shot Right, they just measure
how many people are saying flu shots are a myth
and then take that into it. Wait, we got up.
It is now midnight, and we are all fun. Uh
like other things. They definitely have an anti nuclear bias
when it comes to uh, you know, I think nuclear
weapons are fine. No, when it comes to nuclear power,
(14:03):
like they think that's probably a little bit more dangerous
than uh it actually is in practice. Um, it seems
like there's just an anti nuclear bias, like when it
comes to this publication. So I don't know, I just
I just this everything. No, I'm not pro nuclear everything,
but I do think like there are different stories from
(14:27):
history about like nuclear power plant meltdowns that were somewhat exaggerated. Um,
and I don't know, like obviously Chernobyl, like it can
go really really badly and has in a few instant
Yeah Chernobyl, Man, I thought, is that one level and
call of duty? Right? Yeah? That's that's deep? Right, So yeah,
(14:49):
maybe I'm maybe I'll look into the two. Was it
ever in a movie or something too? Was that? Don't know,
it seems like it should be or maybe I'm confusing
it with Michael Scott's script Threat Level Midnight, which is
probably some form of a derivation on that. Right now
in some news that does seem to be bringing us
closer to some form of sci fi dystopia. Uh So
(15:13):
there there's a Reddit user named deep fakes who last
year started making porn videos that had uh famous actresses
faces like swapped onto the porn actor's body, and uh
he has since created a subreddit, uh where people are
(15:36):
sharing these videos. And it's like using algorithmic learning to
you know, swap faces of you know, actresses onto porn stars.
But it seems like the sort of thing that you know,
we've talked before on the show about how pornography generally
is like at the forefront of technology, and this is
(15:56):
probably another instance of that where, yes, the first thing
we use this technology for is making pornography with gal
Gado's face on a porn star's body. But eventually this
is going to cause the entire meltdown of society because
whoa yo, I'm sorry, I did not know what it
(16:19):
this looked like, so I'm sorry, I interjected. I was like,
what the hell just happened? I did not see that.
This yo, there, this is scary. It's it's very very,
very subtle. Like it's not like back in the day
when I was looking at Spice Girl fake news as
a young teenager on Sublime directory. This is like this
(16:42):
is whoa, Okay, hold on, I don't even know how
to show something that doesn't get us all sued. Uh yeah,
we people can check it out in their own time.
We were also watching this Bell Oh Jesus, but like
that does look like Christ and Bell. So they're just
using like celebrity still images and then using these like
(17:02):
algorithms to just project to face swap them out right,
kind of like they did with Tony Soprano's mom and
season three. But that was terrible. That was like the
conductor on Polar Express had like those dead eyes. It
was like, yeah, God, yeah, that was so bad. My
rest in peace. But yeah, that Kristen Bell video that
(17:24):
Miles just showed the room and will eventually be fired
for is very realistic looking. Um. And yeah, I mean
there's a video went around I think late last year
that had Obama saying different things, Like they had audio
from Obama saying something when he was like sixteen or
something or probably older than that. Uh, and then they
(17:47):
just like swapped it so that his face as the
President was saying that, and it you know, looked completely realistic.
And um, eventually this is going to change, how like
we won't be able to have videos like the Access
Hollywood video of Trump, you know, talking his ship, without
(18:08):
people being like, oh, it's a fake video. We'll see.
He was saying it was fake, so maybe it's Trump
is time traveling. Well yeah, He's like, you don't know
what I've seen. His problem was that he didn't say
it was fake until a year later. He spent a
year saying it was real. Billy Bush was like, yeah,
I know it's real, and then after a year he
was like, you know that video might have been fake. Hey,
(18:29):
can I say it's Billy Bush was like, yo, that
was but that's scary. Yeah, if you haven't even seen that,
Like they basically have photoshop for your voice, you know,
and like combining that with this kind of machine learning.
I mean, I don't want to predict this, but I'm
sure at one point there will be some kind of
massive hoax that like is very, very troubling because people
are gonna like this software get very sophisticated, and you're
(18:51):
gonna think you're seeing somebody saying or doing something that
they absolutely didn't. Oh yeah yeah. Our writer Sam Rabman
h quote an expert from the Electronic Frontiers Foundation who said, uh,
you can make fake videos with neural networks today, but
people will be able to tell that you've done that
if you look closely, and some of the techniques involved
remain pretty advanced, so like it's hard to do, but
(19:14):
that's not going to stay true for more than a
year or two. So in a year or two, like
around the next election, there's going to be the ability
for everybody, like you won't need to be an expert,
like look, Bernie smoke and crack, right, a lot of
explaining to do, yes, uh so heay, But that could
work in the other way too, because people can make
(19:36):
wild videos of Trump to and weird ship too, so
you know, it'll probably be a very fun smear campaign
for everybody. The difficulty is there probably are wild videos
of like, for instance, there's supposedly this video out there
from the set of The Apprentice where he would just
say wildly racist things like during the taping of the
Apprentice parts like in the boardroom, Yeah, in the boardroom,
(19:59):
just like in the tween shots and uh those you
know videos, those audio tapes exist somewhere, but by the
time they get released, he'll be able to be like
those are those are fake? Not me? Yeah, all right,
We're gonna take a quick break and we'll be right back.
(20:27):
And we're back. And you guys, I've been binging for
the past couple of days. Uh, and I am just
feeling great. Actually, it's yeah, thank you. I feel on
top of the world. Uh. No, I've been binging. This podcast,
slow Burn, that is from Slate Media and it's about
the Watergate like basically the unfolding of the Watergate news story,
(20:52):
which you know, I knew the basics of the Watergate story,
but this basically looks back at news story reason as
they were happening, and you know, audio from the story
as they were happening, and talks to people who were
there about like what the experience was like has lived
because it's really easy to look back at huge news
(21:14):
stories and be like, well, that was, you know, a
big deal. It was momentous when those burglars were caught.
But when the seven people were arraigned in a courtroom
in d C, like the day after they were caught
breaking into the Democratic National headquarters with tape recording material
(21:34):
and bugging material. The only reason Bob Wood was there
was because he was covering the local news desk and
like picked it up on a police bladder. Like nobody
covered it for the first few months, and even the
Washington Post, which was like on the trail, was widely
believed to be just doing a liberal hatchet job on Nixon.
(21:54):
Nobody believed that Nixon had anything to do with it. Yeah,
they basically thought that because most of the story, like
it happened months before the election, so a lot of
the reporting on it people thought was them trying to
help McGovern the guy that Nixon was running against. Didn't
force Gump snitch on them, yes, and yeah, good old
(22:17):
boy from Bayou La Battery, right, that wasn't that the
Yeah didn't he wasn't he like looking across because like
Nix was like, and then he saw the people with
the flashlights me some flesh, all right, anyway, we can't
escape him. The reason that they actually got caught is
they kept taping the door handle so that it wouldn't
lock behind them, and like the security guard was like, weird,
(22:39):
that's weird, there's tape there. And then he came back
by for like his next round, and there was like
tape there again. He was like what the fuck? Like
they weren't even they were just like bad at their job,
even though like one of them was a CIA agent. Uh,
what were they looking for specifically? So they weren't looking
for anything they were changing out like surveillance material. They
were tapping the Democrat at National Committee. So the other
(23:02):
thing that I hadn't fully appreciated. So Nixon ends up
winning that next election that he was tapping them like
in preparation for uh, in a landslide by like I
think twenty three percentage points in the overall vote. Uh,
McGovern won a single state. So it was just this
like all out as kicking, and I had always taken
(23:24):
it as Nixon was this like crazy paranoid guy who
did this despite the fact that he was going to
win regardless, like there was no stopping him, obviously because
of how much he won by. So he wanted McGovern
to win the Democratic primary because he knew he would
destroy him. McGovern had like he was sort of the
Bernie of his day, but even less broad support, and
(23:46):
his legacy still haunts Democrats today the mcgoverned effect, don't
go too far left now, And so he wanted McGovern
to come out of the primary. The guy who was
favored and who Nixon really didn't want was this guy
edm Usky from Maine. And the reason ed Muskie didn't win,
and he was like definitely more centrist and had a
(24:07):
much better shot at beating Nixon. The reason he didn't
win is because the Nixon campaign, the Committee to re
Elect the President, which was acronym does creep. Uh. The
reason that Muskie didn't win was because the Nixon campaign
like fucked with him. They did like all sorts of
you know, shady ship in addition to you know, tapping
(24:29):
the d n C headquarters and like knowing everything they
were about to do before they did it. Uh, They
would like go through the hotel hallway of where the
Muskie campaign was staying, and you know, back then you
left your shoes out to be shined by the hotel
and they would just pick up all their shoes and
throw them in a dumpster. Like so the guys would
(24:49):
just like not have shoes the next day and be
late for ship. The night before the New Hampshire primary,
they called like everyone in New amp Sure at midnight
as and like spoke with black sense and talked to
the people about how Ed Muskie was gonna like help
bring black people like rights back and stuff that they
(25:13):
knew would scare white New Hampshire voters and it was
successful um in the election. And then they sent a
letter to the editor in a New Hampshire newspaper that
was like really shady and like talked about his wife
being like a loose woman when who like you know,
(25:33):
smoked cigarettes and was like unladylike and just like really
shady ship and so Muskie like, I was so pissed.
He had a press conference where he was like if
that coward publisher was next to me, he or like
he should be glad he's not next to me, because
I kick his ass, like and then he like broke
down crying because they had like so much and so
(25:56):
that like the guy who would have had a shot
against Nixon he psychologically fucked with until he broke down
in front of people. And that's like why he ended
up running against McGovern who was the worst possible candidate
for the Democrats to run and Nixon knew it. And
then the other thing that is just interesting. I mean,
(26:17):
there are a lot of interesting parallels. Like during the
course of the events, the Republicans were being really obstructionists.
There were a couple of times when they almost successfully
killed the story. Like there was a Texas politician who
like immediately he had some experience with Nixon, and he
like immediately was like, you know, this seems like it
(26:39):
goes all the way to the top. When the guys
were arrested, and so he put together an investigation. They
had all the leads that we were in Bernstein Head
and Republicans and the Nixon administration successfully shut it down
by just like some bullshit excuse saying that like it
wouldn't be fair to the seven robbers because their case
was still being prosecuted. And then there was like a
(27:01):
Senate hearing that Republicans tried to like make about all
the things that like Democrats did that were like unfair
to Republicans, exactly what about is ms. The only reason
that Watergate ended up becoming a thing is because the
head of that Senate committee was like this respected Democrat
(27:24):
who was also sort of a conservative racist, and so
he had like both sides kind of supporting him, and
he was able to like keep it on track and
like block the Republicans from you know, making it about
you know what about this. Well, they also did that
so like aggressively just pivoting away from like the facts
of like, well there's all this time, like can I
(27:46):
talk about something Democrats did? So there's a lot of
details that you know, as it's happening people. Uh. There's
also uh episode about people who are standing by Nixon
like during the investigation or like the liberal media is
just trying to take him down, like he just wants
to be like, you know, be the law and order president.
(28:09):
Was there his term for, you know, basically being racist? Uh?
And a lot of you know, blue collar, working class people,
white people were all about that and thought that the
whole Watergate investigation was just a conspiracy cooked up by
(28:29):
the left wing media. And then they thought that until they,
you know, the facts became too much. So it's interesting
to see as somebody at the time would have viewed
it and wonder how like the modern climate would have
reacted to some of these things, like is there a
possibility that something in the Russia investigation could be too
(28:52):
much for Trump supporters to ignore? You know, here's a
dumb question. Was Gerald Ford Nixon's vice president? His vice
president for most of the time was Spiro Agnew, but
he got caught up in the whole scandal and had
to resign and then Gerald Ford took over. But Ford
like pops up a couple of times in the story
(29:14):
of Watergate, just kind of being a an apologist for Nixon,
but uh, you know, being a little bit more outside
of the Nixon administration than some of the other people
who got taken down. So speaking of you know, our
present day Watergate, Uh, there's been not not that many developments,
(29:38):
but a couple, right. Trump yesterday said he's willing to
talk to under oath. He was leaving John Kelly's office
and like there were some reporters out there and they
caught him like that with a little impromptu, a little
back and forth conversation with the press where he clearly
just was freestyle into and Trump Jet a s which
(30:01):
is very frightening to all his handlers because you don't
know what tune he's gonna play. And Yeah, when he
was asked about the MoMA investigations, like, oh, yeah, I'll
speak to them, I'll speak to them under oath. Yeah,
He's like, I'll speak to f behind oath. Clearly there's
a couple of things he's mistaken here. Uh. First, I
think he just doesn't know what testified under oath means
that you can't lie, but also that there's even a
(30:21):
distinction of being under oath and lying versus lying to
the FBI. They're still felonies. Uh, there's just different statutes.
So you cannot lie to the FBI even if you're
not under oath, And if you were under oath, that
means you would be probably most likely in this case,
in front of a grand jury. So I don't think
he wants to be in front of a grand jury
with like Bob Mueller, who is a very seasoned prosecutor,
(30:42):
like asking the questions, because as we know, I don't
even know if this guy can keep his fact straights,
like in his own head. So like, and you think
about too, like the the amount of preparation like Trump's
lawyers would have to do just to be like, okay,
if the line of question goes this way, like this
is what we're doing. He doesn't have the mental bandwidth
to be like okay, okay. So if you if you
starts talking about George Papadopolas, like we're do this, nah,
(31:03):
I think he's just gonna say whatever the funk he wants,
and it could be a real problem. Um. The other
thing is that, like I think right after ty Cobb
was having to like just clean up the mess and
was like, oh he's he said all that in a
very hurried state, so you know what we do what
we don't know, and that's not exactly what we want
to do. So it was basically a very odd moment.
And then along with that, he also kind of made
(31:25):
reference to that he thought of a path to citizenship
for some of the people under DACA, uh, like ten
to twelve years. I mean, I think that's probably most
likely coming out of the immigration plan that he's gonna
unveil on Monday. But really, I think what was interesting
is just the fact that he was kept talking like, well,
I bet Hillary wasn't under oath with the FBI or whatever,
Like he's still obsessed with her that I'm sure if
(31:48):
you if Robert Muller was just like, you know, Obama
and Hillary Clinton uh had some of the best relationships
with the Russians. I don't know if you knew that
the president of like, oh yeah, well, I'm actually I've
been talking to them since about me becoming president. Like
I feel like conbate him into this coming clean with it.
If you just use this Obama and Hillary comparison, because
he's fucking obsessed still, so it will be very very interesting.
(32:11):
And I think along with what you're saying, like there's
been a lot of obstructionists sort of what about ing
and all kinds of straight up conspiracy bullshit that's been
happening with the GOP trying to discredit the FBI, because
the FBI clearly has a lot of information that could
be very troubling for for Donald Trump. Like, namely, there
was the whole release the memo thing where like Devin
(32:31):
noone was like, I got this memo. I wrote that
I wrote that's like telling you about all the crazy
ship the FBI is doing. And everyone's like, released the
memo and he's like, well, okay, I'll only show it
to House Republicans and then like Senate Republicans are like,
like the Senate Intelligence Communite's like, hey, can we see it?
And he was like nah nah, And then like basically
(32:51):
he was only going to show it to people who
didn't have the same intelligence information he did to be
able to be like dude, this is all wrong, right,
I'm I've seen the same things you've seen, and you
can't draw these conclusions from that ship. So it was
so transparent that now he's kind of like totally backbeddling
on releasing the memo, which makes sense because it was
just a fucking weird distraction the whole time. Yeah, a
(33:13):
distraction from the fact that there was a secret society.
So Republican Ron Johnson of Wisconsin, Yeah, uh, came out
and pointed out that there was a text message I
believe where one FBI agent talked to the other about
having a secret society meeting, and so therefore, ergo, uh,
(33:35):
they are probably had a secret anti Trump society where
they were planning the takedown of the White House. Huh,
it's all happening. Uh. So here's Ron Johnson being questioned
about that on NPR, because when you see the entire
context of that text message, it appears that they were
saying that completely ingest. Yeah. Absolutely. It was the day
(33:58):
after Trump was voted like won the election, and they
were like, I guess we'll have to have a secret
society meeting, and they just went secret. Oh, here we go,
Tomic pizza. Right. So today he was or maybe early
this morning, he was on NPR asked about these comments.
That he made to Brett Bear. So first, let's just
hear when Ron Johnson came out swinging with the secret society.
(34:20):
Ship we have we have an informant that's talking about
a group that were holding secret meetings off site. There
are there's so much smoke here, there's so much special
let's let's stop. There a secret society, the secret meetings
offside of the Justice Department. Correct, And you have an
informant saying that, yes, is there anything more about that? No,
(34:40):
we have to dig into not but I mean the
way he said, the way he said yes, and you
have two informants yes, yes, yeah, so yeah. Then NPR
was like, hey, do you know that that was like
a joke, right and based on a text? Y, So
this is him talking to someone that isn't on Fox
It okay. Well you also you also focused on two
(35:02):
words from one of the texts, which was a secret society.
I didn't other people brought that up. You suggest that
this could this might mean a secret group within the
FBI holding meetings off site. And you went on to
say this could mean corruption at the highest levels of
the FBI. But I was talking about that reference may
have been a joke. I'm just wondering to feel you
might have jumped to conclusions here. No, all I was
(35:22):
connecting is we you know, I have all kinds of
people come in our tour in front of our committee
giving us information. And I had heard that there were
off site meetings, so I was just connecting the dots there.
It could be a joke. Those off site meetings could
be completely harmless. Oh he didn't mention on Fox fucking
sticky your fucking chest out on Fox secret societies and
(35:45):
they're like, oh, I mean yeah, like they could be joke.
You could completely hardened listening. But that was like months later,
right Oh wait, No, No, that interview was the next
next day, so absolutely nothing had changed. And the other
thing too, I just want to bring it, like with Trump,
how quickly it was so transparent. He is something to
hide when when asked like will you know, speak to
ing like ill going to oath, like really really bluff
(36:09):
in there, you know. And that's say like the second
that his lawyers talk to him, he's like, well, my
lawyers will have to lawyer. Yeah what my attorneys? Maybe
I shouldn't do it. I don't know, I can't imagine him.
If Trump is able to actually pull off not fully
melting down in front of Robert Mueller and self perjurying himself,
(36:32):
uh like, then maybe I will believe that he has
some kind of there's some hidden mental capacity in there,
because in my mind, the way this would play out
was him just thinking he's talking to somebody that like
is under him and he can just say whatever the
funk he wants to without like understanding that he is
still this is a like criminal thing. Isn't like a hey,
like you didn't you didn't wire my unit in your
(36:54):
building for electricity, blah blah blah, Like this is like
criminal ship Like this is a very different matter. Um.
Roger Stone one of Trump's oldest and strongest advocates, who
also has a tattoo of Richard Nixon on his back
because that's the kind of guy he is. He does yeah, yeah,
of Nixon's face. I think he just thinks he's handsome.
(37:17):
That's all. Probably has my pits, but um, he any
relation by the way, Roger Stone, Um, Anyways, he has
said for a while now that Trump going in front
of Mueller and just like having a conversation with Mueller
would be a quote suicide mission, like he he knows
(37:37):
Trump well enough to be like, yeah, no, that's my friend.
He's not smart enough to handle this, Like that would
not be good. We we should not let that happen. Um.
So yeah, because he's being his handlers. This is the
double edged sword of having all these sycophants around you,
because they're gaslighting him into thinking everything's okay, everything's gonna
be okay, and this isn't really a problem. Yeah. I
(38:00):
called it our Watergate earlier. You know that it could
entirely turn out to be just him fucking himself by
not being bright or honest enough to like handle the questioning,
and it might not be a thing where he was,
you know, actually gaining all that much of an advantage
from his you know, any connection to Russia. But or
(38:23):
if it's the obstruction charts too, because that was another
interesting thing he said yesterday, because the first time he
used the word obstruction, because normally he's like, there's no
collusion and no collusion, no collusion, and then yesterday he's like,
there's no clusion whatsoever, there's no obstruction whatsoever. So clearly
someone tipped him off, like, you know, there's another thing.
But you might even be worried about is the fact
that you may have obstructed justice when you fire James
(38:43):
call me right, he said, is it obstruction for me
to fight back and fight back against this investigation? Like?
And it's like, yes, how was that not obstruction? He's
working out the definition of ruction, like in public for
all of us to see. Oh, what I can't do
(39:04):
by any means necessary to get the heat off my friends,
So stay tuned, sty but in true Trump fashion, like, oh,
when do you think of me with him? And we
all know what the preloaded answer for any duration of
time with him two to three weeks. Everything is two
to three weeks with him. So yeah, that was probably
a total lie to the other big difference. I'm pretty
sure the Democrats held at least one of the houses
(39:26):
at the time of the Watergate uh investigation, and they
are kind of completely powerless. So I'm not holding my
breath for anything interesting to happen with this investigation or
with Trump's uh you know, actually status until that changes.
But we shall see. All right, We're gonna take a
(39:49):
quick break, We'll be right back, and we're back. We're
just looking at Roger Stone's back. Dave actually told us
that it's actually his dad. He didn't pop put him
in an awkward position. Wait, he looks like you know
(40:10):
when you fly in the magazine that's in the front
pocket of the thing. And there's always that one old
as doctor who's like, I look like I'm twenty six
years old, shirt off, Like that's like what Roger Stones
like that weird airplane magazine buff doctor. Yo. Of course
that's Trump's best friend. Yeah, there's a picture of him
shirt let's smoking a cigar. He's definitely hd h ng up.
(40:34):
It's funny. The other elderly conservative who loves to be
photographed with his shirt off is the Dilbert guy, Scott Adams,
and like he doesn't doesn't look that. He like he's like, yeah,
well do you think fifty five year old would look
like this? And it's like, yeah, that's about what a
fifty five year old who works out would look like.
Uh but anyways, this a little nerd Yeah, um, dude,
(40:59):
Scott Adams is fascinating. He like, at a certain point
lost his voice, not like a physical thing happened, he
just stopped being able to speak, like neurological or I
don't know, like nobody has explained it. Really, he just
like stopped talking. Uh, he's a he's a very strange guy.
(41:20):
He also his house is built to be shaped like
Dilbert's head. Um it is. Yeah, no, Scott Adams is
we should just do maybe we should do a whole
week Gilbert week, Dilbert Week. But first, before any of that,
we need to talk about what's going on in Russia
right now. They are trying to you know, take down
(41:41):
our democracy right Uh. That and they're also filming some
pre dope viral videos. So uh, you know, we generally
the the image of Russia that we get is that
everybody is loyal to Putin and it's this you know,
a bunch of hat cker is doing the bidding of
(42:02):
their iron fisted leader. Um. And you know, another thing
that we hear about is how homophobic Russia is. Uh.
I know people who visited there who you know, it
was a Friday night and Putin's biker gang, who like
is like secretly his paramilitary force was going around like
rounding up and beating up gay people in Russia. Just
(42:25):
like that's how publicly homophobic the culture is over there. Well,
apparently like they don't get buy in on that culture
from all generations and uh, you know, younger Russians are
actually sane and they're like, well this is crazy, like uh.
(42:46):
And so a group of flight students at Russian Pilot
College aviation college, uh, the Olyanovsk Institute of Civil Aviation
filmed themselves as like a bunch of dos uh in
their underwear, like twerking, and one dude was like deep
throating a banana over and out of champ um and uh.
(43:14):
It went viral immediately, and you know, the public outcry
from the you know, totally not state controlled media was
like these people should be ashamed of themselves. They're disgrace
to the aviation industry. But then like like they're probably gay, right,
But then all these other colleges started filming their own
(43:38):
version of this video and like so now this is
like the hot ship to do in Russian college, right,
It's the Harlem Shake of Russian colleges, which, by the way,
I suggest you watched them just because they're fun videos,
but also because uh you get an image of like
what Russian college looks like. Yeah, the dorm of the
(44:01):
nearby agricultural college that are uploaded The second twerking video
looks like a haunted, abandoned hospital. It looks like the
set of The Ring. It really does. It's like, damn,
that's that's college in Russia. Um. But it's just wild
though two Like, you know, because he's like they were
wearing like bondage outfits, like a couple of people had
(44:23):
like gear that you're like, oh, okay, this might be
your thing. But like the because Russia is so homophobic,
Like I can totally see why this kind of thing
is going to happen because it's it's treated such a taboo,
such a taboo that suddenly you get all these dudes together,
like the one of the guys like rubbing each other
with shaving cream. Like some of the videos do a
really funny job of like escalating like how homo erotic behavior.
(44:46):
Yeah yeah, just shout out to you guys doing your
things and young men figuring it out, having a good time.
I'm always amused by like frat boy culture, like how
far they're willing to take the joke, right yeah right, ah,
we're not gay video kiss some more tongue though, man Dick,
I don't exactly got him. This is just so funny
(45:09):
to be that it starts off being like this is
unbelievable and then just spreads like they're like, you know
what we're gonna do the satisfaction challenge. Memes in Russia
don't funk around. There is a a meme from probably
like five to ten years ago that we covered un
Cracked about like there was some photograph of a guy
(45:30):
hanging out his window by one hand because the husband
had just come home and found him in bed. So
that was like an actual photograph that got taken, and
then like it became a meme to be photographed hanging
out of windows like by one arm, and like that
was like the cool, like fun meme to be taken.
(45:50):
They're pretty pretty hardcore. I will play with my life
for the likes um. And finally, so we we don't
hear much about cool sponsored content. Uh. In fact, the
Intercept podcast today talked about how the brands are going
directly to the journalists and they're submitting articles without telling
(46:14):
the publications that they are sponsored by these things. So
the journalists themselves is getting like the sponsorship money and
it's just being published by like the Huffing and Post
or you know, Fast company and outlets like this that
are just you know, in the bulk publishing business. Um.
And you know then when you google like whether that
(46:36):
product is good or not, you go to you get
the result of this article that looks for all intensive purposes,
Like it's totally not sponsored. And don't they have to
disclose that it's sponsored content? Who the journalists? The journalists? Yeah,
I mean ethically yes they should, but because journalists don't
make any money, like because the Huffington Post was like, yeah,
(46:58):
we don't pay our journalists. It's like, but we give
them a great outlet for lots of people to see,
and they cut to every person. You went to college,
is like, you know, I was in I wrote for
the Huffington Post, right and I'm in Wikipedia bro um. Yeah,
so that's an example of bed sponsored content. But uh,
Burger King just created a video that I'm actually okay with. Uh.
(47:19):
It's about net neutrality and it uses whoppers as a
metaphor for net neutrality and how net neutrality works. Where
basically like they had people who ordered whoppers like wait
twenty minutes for their whopper while other people were getting
faster whoppers and they were like, oh, they paid for
the high speed whopper package and then guys like so
(47:42):
there's like fast lanes for the food or something, and
he's like yeah, yeah, yeah, and he's like, well how
much to get mine now night? And they're like what
the amazing thing is? Like they're a couple of people
who my favorite kind of person someone who gets upset
at a fast food restaurant, Like at the people. This
one guy there, like he's like, well, how long did
you have to wait? He's like about fifteen twenty minutes
(48:03):
for the package you got And he's like he's like
mimes like ripping his hair and he's like, I don't
this is not good. Like a few people you get
fucking pissed about hearing that their whopper is not coming
in time. Yeah. One one guy that says this is
the worst thing I've ever heard of, which he apparently
is a holocaust denier or something, because this is the
(48:27):
worst thing I have ever heard of. Right, Um, But
it's a good video. I think it makes sense of
what a world without net neutrality could look like. Uh.
And it ends with a shot at our boy, edgy Pie,
who at the very end of the video, it has
the King drinking out of an oversized Reese's peanut butter
cup mug. That's like his trademark. Yeah, so Edgy Pie
(48:50):
for people who haven't listened to every single one of
our episodes, is the FCC chairman who uh is basically
killing net neutrality, but he fancies himself a comedian and
his funny thing that he does is he pulls he
brings out a coffee mug that is like jokes, it's
like jokes sizes, it's like a huge coffee mug and
(49:11):
like takes a sip out of it, and it's like,
that's pretty funny. Yeah, it is funny, but yeah, he
does it as a reveal, like he'll come be talking
at a party like yeah, I'm blah blah blah, and
then just be like, look how big my coffee and
damn man, where I'm glad prop comedy is back. I
got some other ideas to exactly. Yeah, that's his giant
all right, that is going to do it for today's show. David,
(49:33):
it's been a blast having you. Thanks for having me, guys. Yeah,
where can people find you? Follow you? Twitter is at
Dave Stone Comedy and uh yeah, Boogy Monster Podcast, Me
and Cocanane. New episodes every Tuesday, And what's the show about. Uh,
It's supposed to be about conspiracy theories and paranormal and
supernatural like big foot, aliens, stuff like that, but usually
(49:55):
we just wind up talking about fried chicken and beer.
Uh yeah, we we. We attempt to tackle a new
paranormal topic every week, but sometimes little we don't really
get to it. Sometimes. What's your favorite chicken product that
is made by like a national chan for our national Well,
first of all, I won't get into my disdain for
(50:17):
talk about conspiracies. How like Big Chicken is trying to
convince us that white meat chicken is somehow premium. I'm
a dark meat guy, thank you. The leg and the thigh.
That's where it's at. This whole all white meat. Who
gives a ship gets dry dry Take your dry ass
hormone ridden breast elsewhere. Uh that's a weird sentence. But
I'm a I'm a big Popeye's guy around here. Um,
(50:40):
they don't have it out here, but in the Southeast
where I'm from, there's a regional chain called the Bojangles.
Is insane, really good chickens, good biscuits, breakfast, all day zax,
be solid. Yeah, I like nswers get around here, probably
Popeyes as far as national. Yeah. Sorry, see I took
his outro into full chicken conversation because I love Yeah.
(51:02):
People need to know. People have to know. Miles Where
can people follow you? I might be following Dave to
uh man the weight is under an hour. You know,
I have I have nightmares about that place because I
wanted so bad. But everyone I know has to go
for hours, you know, I have no and I just
everyone comes back and like it's worth it, man, Like
they look like they saw Coig really good. But anyway, Yeah,
(51:25):
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(51:47):
where we post our episodes in our footnope or we
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we used for research for this episode. And that is
going to do it for today's show. We will be
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