September 16, 2022 • 24 mins
In this edition of The WomTrend King, Jack and super producer Becca discuss Bad Bunny's new music video, the Right's inability to see asylum seekers as humans, the new Jeffrey Dahmer show, the new SNL cast members, and the NYT's 'Don"t Worry Darling' review!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of the
One trend King. The new Viola Davis movie that is
getting incredibly good reviews is also incredibly violent the then
diagram of movies. I am going to watch the ship
out of Um. I am Jack and I'm thrilled to
be joined today by super producer That Karama. Hello. Hello,
(00:25):
I would like to say I did not put it
in the show Knows yesterday and that is my bad.
Happy Latin X Heritage Month started yesterday, so uh yeah,
for all those who celebrate, give money to your local
Latin X friend, give them oparations for the colonization of
their countries as well. Uh, donate to Latin X causes,
(00:48):
Go see an art exhibit, go listen to Bad Bunny,
or learn more. Happy LATINX Herriage Month. Let's get into
Bad Bunny. Uh Bad Bunnies. Official video for the song
Lapagon came out today. Um and yeah there there's it's
a cool video and also there's a learning to be had. Yeah,
(01:10):
there's a mini documentary at the end of the video
that's giving context to all the issues and atrocities happening
in Puerto Rico right now. When the stream came out live.
It was like very clear people were dipping off after
uh they hit the end of the video in the
beginning of the documentary, which is fucked up during Latin
(01:30):
X Carriage Month. But you know, I think this is
so incredible for Bad Bunny to do. He's always been
very vocal about what's going on in Puerto Rico, being
a voice and a face in the atrucities happening in
Puerto Rico and being there for the people in a
very real and productive way, which I love that about
(01:52):
him as an artist, especially with the truly like number
one artists in the world global platform he had, as
I feel like he's really put like what's going on
in Puerto Rico on the map in a way that
nobody has been able to do before. So super love
and appreciate that. Watch the video, go learn some stuff. Uh.
(02:14):
And on top of that, there is a hurricane coming
I think it was. I don't know if that was
planned or not, but he posted that, and then now
there's been an announcement that Hurricane Fiona is potentially coming
for Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands and that it
will be catastrophic winds and rains. So pray for Puerto Rico,
(02:34):
you know, you know, if you are religious or whatever,
just like put your heart out there for the people
of Puerto Rico. They still have not recovered from Maria.
That was five years ago. So like talking about you
kind of just briefly referenced the bad Bunnies, like the
biggest artist in the world, but that truly I haven't seen,
you know, since Peak Drake, I haven't seen Like I
(02:57):
I'm a loser and I pay attention to what is
what are the top hundred most played tracks on Apple Music,
like on a day, day to day basis, and this
whole summer it's been songs off his album, Like the
whole top five is basically bad bunny songs. Like truly
just dominance. He really has the country just broken records
(03:21):
globally and like and US side of like I think
really being able to put like international music on like
American scale. They're like the crossover has always been like
America global, and very rarely do especially Latin X artists
get that, like Latin X to American crossover. I feel like,
(03:42):
you know, Rosalia started doing it, but Rosalia has a
lot of her colonialization issues anyway, she is a Spanish
artist in reggaeton, like Spain Spanish artists in Spanish complicated relationship.
But Bad Bunny he is like breaking down queer barriers
for the community. He's breaking down with chismo and he
(04:05):
is just so incredibly talented. And I am so humble
to like be growing up in a time where like
someone like Bad Bunny can be dominating like the global
Like it's like only the representation I ever dreamed of,
you know, growing up, Like I feel like growing up
listening to any sort of Spanish music was like so
made fun of, like so frown upon. And now you
(04:26):
have people like at parties at clubs like purposely blasting
Bad Bunny. That would never happen like ten fifteen years ago.
You'd have to go to like specifically like Latino clubs
to like hear that kind of music. And now you
can go anywhere or like be in Miami, Like now
you can be anywhere and like listen to that kind
of music. And that is like you have so many
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white people they're staying after Bad Bunny and playing and
like using it as like you said, Drake Captions, like
that is like that Bunny has taken over that kind
of spotlight and it's so cool to see it's bangs
going here. M hm al right, well, uh, let's let's
talk about how the GOP is dealing with migrants and
(05:08):
that is treating them like props and that. So we
talked on yesterday's training episode about this kind of media
stunt where they are sending um, I think Venezuelan migrants,
uh to you know, far flung regions of the United
States that are you know, blue states and being like
(05:31):
how you deal with it, see how you like it?
And um, I've seen like a couple kind of right
wing people being like so so most people are like,
holy shit, this is horrifying. This is while that y'all
are the Party of Christianity and you're treating people like
(05:51):
and not the most literal interpretation of inhumanely. You're treating
them like not human for your own political purposes and
to like do like a political prank. It feels like
it almost feels like they prank. I think that's actually
what um one of the people who's now in Martha's
(06:11):
binger actually said they were like cool uh governor to
Santa's cool prank man, that you really really got us
because so the details that are emerging is that they
like lied to them. They were like, hey, yeah, there's
gonna be good jobs if you go on this plane,
and uh yeah, just just go on there. Well we'll
(06:33):
we'll see on the other side. And you know, they
also I think falsified, um their address records two so
that they would be technically illegal when they arrived. So
just all around, um truly wild. And so then I've
seen people responding to the news and to the people
(06:57):
who have a soul being like this is the worst
thing I've ever seen, being like, ha, see you've talked
about sanctuary like they're just going brushing past the idea
of you know, these are human beings. Are what are
you doing and being like see you don't like it now,
like just kind of yeah, they're like, oh, you wanted
sanctuary cities, And I was like, but this isn't an
(07:18):
ethical way. This isn't a sanctuary city anymore. And the
way that you did it because you purposely try to
funk with the people who are seeking asylum and make
it a point that they can't really ethically legally seek
that asylum by falsifying the records, lying to them about
where they're going X y Z. It's so it is
(07:38):
it literally gets under my skin like gross, like I
want to vomit type of feeling listening to this story
because it's not new. It is new for it to
get this type of attention. But there's so many different
ways this has already been happening from for migrants in
this country for many, many, many many years, and from
(08:00):
any different places. I feel like even back in the day,
like the Bootstrap program for Puerto Ricans to come into
this country, they were allied to where they were going
to go, where these jobs were going to be. Like
it is just such a tale as old as time
when it comes to border relations of the United States.
But it is so sick and sad and twisted to
(08:20):
see these families be you know, violated, lied to use
as props, to be you know, treated as like you said, subhuman.
And it's so ironic for these Christian conservatives to behave
this way when they truly choose to go on mission
trips to these third world countries and take pictures with
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their kids and be like, look, I'm such a good person.
I like disrupted the ecosystem of this area, and look
at me doing volunteer work. I'm doing mission work, and
I'm found back. But if they try to come here
m hm yeah. And it's also telling that so they've
already constructed the r meant that they're going to have
in their mind, right, So they sent the people, and
(09:05):
then they assumed that the communities where they were sending
them to would be equally in humane and be like,
get this garbage out of here. And they're like, see,
you don't like it now, because not only is their
mind incapable of like actually conceiving of these migrants as
human beings, but they can't conceive of other Americans feeling
(09:28):
that way. And so they just kind of like power
through to the next step in their argument. Even though
that's that's not the reaction people are having. People are
just being like, yeah, we're trying to help them, what
are you? You know, I'm sure not everybody and Martha's
fingerd is doing that. I know that. Uh, Like some
of these rich communities have very conservative, wealthy people. I
(09:49):
know one person was openly being like, what Obama should
open his house to them. I saw a tweet today
which I'm sure was in relation to this, but it
was like some con serve at an asshole was like,
why don't illegals ever go to Puerto Rico? And it
was like, I that doesn't help either, Like you can't
ship them to another place that's also disadvantaged. Like oh
(10:12):
my god, all right, so let's take a quick break
and we'll be right back. And we're back, and there's
there's a new trailer for this Netflix Jeffrey Dahmer series
(10:36):
that looks so dark and bleak and I just can't
I don't know. There there's our guests on Monday's episode
of a podcast where they were recently debating like movies
verse TV UM, which like, obviously you don't have to
pick one side or the other UM, But I do
(10:57):
feel like sometimes I am infl once by growing up
as a movie fan and like growing up in an
era when movies where art and TV was you know,
sitcoms and The A Team and Night Rider and like
just kind of shitty, shitty TV. So sometimes I like
(11:18):
worry that I'm missing out on great TV because I
I still just like get excited about movies and movie
trailers and treat movie releases as events in my mind,
and I don't have that same reaction around TV, but like,
this feels very much like one of those things that
(11:39):
I don't I feel like TV should never attempt something
something that is like so dark, And it is so
Ryan Murphy to want to take on this topic, it
is so Evan Peters to want to be a part
of it. So where do I know Evan Peters from?
Because I saw the trailer and I was like, oh,
Evan Peters waiting. He's a ry Mark Darling, so he's
(12:01):
in all of the or almost all of American horror story.
He tends to lean in this like creepy like world. Um.
He also was in kick Ass. He's like one of
the psychic friends. He also, um is Quicksilver in the
X Men series of um, the movies, I think like
(12:23):
the Course one or whatever, the new Class x Men
First Class. Yeah, um, so he's Quicksilver for that. Um.
I think he did a little crossover in the Wanda
Vision world and plays Quicksilver there too, kind of showing
that like X Men is gonna move over and a
Wanta Vision a hole of thing. But um yeah, So
(12:43):
I have loved Evan Peters like I've grown up with
Evan Peters and loving this creepy world. But I agree
with you where I uh. Super producer Brian put in
the chat, why do we keep doing this for sick
a serial killer ship? I'm also done with it, Like
I feel like we give especially specifically serial kill there's
way too much time of day. They're evil people like
(13:04):
they target really underrepresented like sad and this is very
much so. Yeah, we're telling the story of like just
a an alcoholic like white guy who's just like a
complete failure and then just goes around and gets away
with murdering like people of color because the police are
(13:25):
just like I don't know, man like exactly. And they've
already made a movie. They've already you know, with um
Cross Lynch is his name. He was a Disney Darling
and now and then was on Netflix's Sabrina and then
he did that movie as well. So it's like they
already in the movie. Why I think I'm good. I'm
(13:46):
kind of with you. I'm team movie. I love movies.
I like having a short like not sure movies aren't
short anymore, but I like knowing it's like start to finish,
like this is a complete story. When I'm like watching it,
I get to go and consume in this piece of
art and like feel the full It's like reading a book,
like from start to end you're like, ah, I got it.
I've absorbed that. That was beautiful. Whereas TV, it's created
(14:10):
this like constant pump system where it's like, yeah, we
can get a limited series, but if it's really loved,
will like spin it into like eight more and then
like a three spinoff shows and then like a character
ark in this and it's just like two. I feel
overwhelmed by the amount of content that's out there that
I tend to spiral into reality TV. And I used
to never be a reality TV person, but I feel
(14:31):
like it's the only thing I can consume lately that
I'm like, I don't have to like stress about where
this is going. Right, It's mindless, it's numbing. It's fun,
but it's it's not supposed to be art. And I
get people are like, we're in the best generation of TV,
but I'm tired there's too much TV. Yeah yeah, I mean,
(14:53):
you know, the Wire Sopranos all like really great and
proved that you can do serious art as as TV,
but like the Hit to Miss Ratio, like I don't
have to dig for two examples of great movies. And
this is obviously like a very controversial thing. Like I
(15:13):
think when I when I see something on TV, like
just the frame rate, I biases me against it, like
if it's at the TV frame rate versus the movie
frame rate, and like that's like there's that has that's
nothing but bias. But at the same time, I don't know.
This definitely feels like if you're going to do a
(15:35):
portrait of a serial killer, like you don't people, you
don't want to make people sit with that for to
be like all right, I'm coming back for episode two
to see what's happening. Yeah, Because it's also like Ryan
Murphy has a tendency to really blow it up right
to like it is controversial by nature on purpose, like
(15:56):
Ryan Murphy loves to like toe the line of inappropriate
and camp and with the story, like Jeffrey Dahmer, it's
like to me, is it worth telling that line? Is
it worth telling? Like I watched Glee back in the day,
I've watched probably almost anything Rhyme Murphy has made, and
I love like American Crime Story was fine, um the
(16:17):
New The Gosh. He had another show with Gwyn Paltrow recently,
and this first season was good. The second season was
too much, and like Glee, you could make a case
study for like was it camp or was it inappropriate?
A lot of times who knows. It's a different area
of television, but this story arguably does not need to
(16:39):
be told again. Yeah, everybody's clamoring for the guy from
Glee to make Jeffrey Dahmer movie. Um Well. Speaking of
tv SNL's new cast members were announced Marcello Hernandez, Molly Kearney,
Michael Longfellow, and Devin Walker. Um. He said that you've
you're familiar with their work. I'm familiar with one of them. Um.
(17:03):
I know one of them was on Conan. I really
liked his stand up. It was very funny. Um, But
otherwise unfamiliar with these three faces. One of them is
Cuban Dominican, which is cool. More representation is always loved.
It feels like it's a one it went out scenario
with um Melissamana Senor is out. They bring in Marcello Hernandez,
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but they also have the first non binary performer on
the show, which is awesome. That one is Molly Kearney.
So you know, cool, that's great. It's going to be
very interesting to see where this season goes because they
lost seven cast members this season, which is a lot,
so I don't know, they haven't even filled all of
(17:50):
them back, only Coore so well. And finally, The New
York Times has an article that is basically positing that
the movie Don't Worry Darling, which we've been following because
we thought the trailer looked good then people saw it
and the critics are like a kind of a sticker,
(18:11):
and that obviously we've been following it because there's a
lot of controversy around, like what happened on set, like
the various you know, um the director, that the key
players fighting with one another, possibly fighting with one another,
possibly spitting on one another, um. And The New York
Times has an article that I only bring up, like
(18:33):
we've we've talked plenty about Don't Worry Darling. We don't
need to talk anymore about this movie, but until it
comes out. It's like, I think this is a new
level of New York Times, like getting something completely wrong
on you know, the issue, on an issue that doesn't
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matter at all, but it's just so there. Their theory
is that the reason this movie might do bed is
because of the controversy around it, like that that is
actually bad for the movie. Um, Whereas this is a
movie that is Taylor made to like if it got
(19:14):
just great reviews, everybody would go see it. It's that
type of movie that like needs to get good reviews,
and once it has good reviews, like there's going to
be interest in it. It looked like trippy and interesting.
So if it was at like ninety percent on Rotten
Tomatoes or like The Woman King for instance, I feel
like everybody would go see it. But instead it's at
(19:36):
thirty five. But their thesis instead is but now the
thirty five million dollar production is being referred to around
town as kill your darlings. Over the past three weeks,
the ones highly anticipated movie has become a spectacle in
all the wrong ways, with its director Olivia wild self
immolating on the publicity trail. Now all eyes are on
(19:56):
the box office, as the film, one of only three
Warner Brothers is releasing theatrically through the remainder of the year,
debuts nationally on September, and then like later, they revealed
that Olivia Wilde canceled an interview with them, So I
do think it's just them. Yeah yeah, I know, like
that is probably a smart publicity move, but um, they
(20:18):
are I think probably just being a little but her,
a little little stanistic. I mean this review to me
as much as like the presses is crazy, and I
do think because like you're saying, like on in Tomatoes,
I'm sure now with like the crazy press people want
to go see it just to be like what is it?
Then like like the reviews are bad but the drama
(20:41):
is good, or like interesting good not like actually good
for anybody. Um, I think now more than ever people
want to see it. But I also think this is
like almost an unfair critique because so many men, so
many male directors in Hollywood gets to have crazy publicity
stunts and crazy failings and they get another movie and
get like the thirty five plus million dollar budget again.
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And you know, I'm not saying I am team Olivia
Wild or team Olivia Wild's character by any means. But
to me, Book Spart was a great first movie. I
don't think she's a bad director. I think she deserves
another shot at directing. And if this tanks and she
doesn't get it, I feel like Hollywood has learned nothing
from me to write, has learned nothing from like becoming
(21:26):
more progressive as we you know, probably ny of that,
but it just would make me sad to see if
like this puts more female directors behind because of it's
like perpeting its own problem. It's like, that's not Olivia
Wild's fault at that point. That is the system and
the industry's fault of like not being able to give
her the you know come back that many many, many
(21:47):
many men directors have gotten over and over and over again.
And it's yeah, it's like this is a long tradition
of directors having success with like one of their early
projects and then they get to make like their big statement,
super ambitious, oftentimes overly ambitious movie that kind of tanks.
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And that's what that is sort of the rhythm of
a Hollywood director for the most part. Um and that
the fact that this scandal is being overlaid onto that
and being like, well, there's also a level of personal
failure and you know, more moral like repugnance at the
(22:32):
core of this that will allow us to write Olivia
Wild Off is pretty frustrating. I just wonder if like
a male director were in the same scenario. Would the
New York Times have written the same article? You know,
that's like my only I want them to think about that,
you know, go back to the riding board and be like,
had I put a man? Have I put all over
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wild in here? Would I have written the same article?
I don't know. I don't know if they would have.
So yeah, I think this is just the New York
Times wanting to write a gossip column but having to
have like a news hook for it, and so being like,
is this because they do bring They're like they quote
someone is saying there's some degree of sexism in this Um.
Maybe they could have moved that to the top and
(23:15):
been like, there's some degree of sexism in this article?
Being yes, Um, anyways, Becca, such a pleasure having you
on the dailysa geist Um. Where can people find you?
Follow you all that good stuff? You can find me
and follow me at bex, b e CCS, Ramos on
all platforms. You can also find me at mel Mundo's Books.
(23:36):
I want to promote just because it is Latin X
Harrige Month. It's a Latin X bookstore. I volunteered out
on the weekends. They deserve all your love and support,
go support Latin X businesses. Uh yeah. And if you
are in New York City on September and you are
a fan of Julissa caldron Um, she is going to
be doing an event at mel Mundo's Books September twenty
(23:58):
seven from six apm. She's doing a book tour. If
you have her manifest like a hef a book she's
doing like a reading and writing like workshops him in
our thing. It's a free entry if you already own
the book and or buy book upon entry as your ticket.
So yeah, that is a meal Mundo's book, my m
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If you want to go find workout, go check it out.
All right, that is going to do it for us
this afternoon. We're back on Monday with the whole last
episode of the show. Until then, have a great weekend.
Be kind to each other, be kind to yourselves, get
the vaccine if you can, don't do nothing about white supremacy.
And we will talk to y'all on Monday. I
Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of the
One trend King. The new Viola Davis movie that is
getting incredibly good reviews is also incredibly violent the then
diagram of movies. I am going to watch the ship
out of Um. I am Jack and I'm thrilled to
be joined today by super producer That Karama. Hello. Hello,
(00:25):
I would like to say I did not put it
in the show Knows yesterday and that is my bad.
Happy Latin X Heritage Month started yesterday, so uh yeah,
for all those who celebrate, give money to your local
Latin X friend, give them oparations for the colonization of
their countries as well. Uh, donate to Latin X causes,
(00:48):
Go see an art exhibit, go listen to Bad Bunny,
or learn more. Happy LATINX Herriage Month. Let's get into
Bad Bunny. Uh Bad Bunnies. Official video for the song
Lapagon came out today. Um and yeah there there's it's
a cool video and also there's a learning to be had. Yeah,
(01:10):
there's a mini documentary at the end of the video
that's giving context to all the issues and atrocities happening
in Puerto Rico right now. When the stream came out live.
It was like very clear people were dipping off after
uh they hit the end of the video in the
beginning of the documentary, which is fucked up during Latin
(01:30):
X Carriage Month. But you know, I think this is
so incredible for Bad Bunny to do. He's always been
very vocal about what's going on in Puerto Rico, being
a voice and a face in the atrucities happening in
Puerto Rico and being there for the people in a
very real and productive way, which I love that about
(01:52):
him as an artist, especially with the truly like number
one artists in the world global platform he had, as
I feel like he's really put like what's going on
in Puerto Rico on the map in a way that
nobody has been able to do before. So super love
and appreciate that. Watch the video, go learn some stuff. Uh.
(02:14):
And on top of that, there is a hurricane coming
I think it was. I don't know if that was
planned or not, but he posted that, and then now
there's been an announcement that Hurricane Fiona is potentially coming
for Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands and that it
will be catastrophic winds and rains. So pray for Puerto Rico,
(02:34):
you know, you know, if you are religious or whatever,
just like put your heart out there for the people
of Puerto Rico. They still have not recovered from Maria.
That was five years ago. So like talking about you
kind of just briefly referenced the bad Bunnies, like the
biggest artist in the world, but that truly I haven't seen,
you know, since Peak Drake, I haven't seen Like I
(02:57):
I'm a loser and I pay attention to what is
what are the top hundred most played tracks on Apple Music,
like on a day, day to day basis, and this
whole summer it's been songs off his album, Like the
whole top five is basically bad bunny songs. Like truly
just dominance. He really has the country just broken records
(03:21):
globally and like and US side of like I think
really being able to put like international music on like
American scale. They're like the crossover has always been like
America global, and very rarely do especially Latin X artists
get that, like Latin X to American crossover. I feel like,
(03:42):
you know, Rosalia started doing it, but Rosalia has a
lot of her colonialization issues anyway, she is a Spanish
artist in reggaeton, like Spain Spanish artists in Spanish complicated relationship.
But Bad Bunny he is like breaking down queer barriers
for the community. He's breaking down with chismo and he
(04:05):
is just so incredibly talented. And I am so humble
to like be growing up in a time where like
someone like Bad Bunny can be dominating like the global
Like it's like only the representation I ever dreamed of,
you know, growing up, Like I feel like growing up
listening to any sort of Spanish music was like so
made fun of, like so frown upon. And now you
(04:26):
have people like at parties at clubs like purposely blasting
Bad Bunny. That would never happen like ten fifteen years ago.
You'd have to go to like specifically like Latino clubs
to like hear that kind of music. And now you
can go anywhere or like be in Miami, Like now
you can be anywhere and like listen to that kind
of music. And that is like you have so many
(04:47):
white people they're staying after Bad Bunny and playing and
like using it as like you said, Drake Captions, like
that is like that Bunny has taken over that kind
of spotlight and it's so cool to see it's bangs
going here. M hm al right, well, uh, let's let's
talk about how the GOP is dealing with migrants and
(05:08):
that is treating them like props and that. So we
talked on yesterday's training episode about this kind of media
stunt where they are sending um, I think Venezuelan migrants,
uh to you know, far flung regions of the United
States that are you know, blue states and being like
(05:31):
how you deal with it, see how you like it?
And um, I've seen like a couple kind of right
wing people being like so so most people are like,
holy shit, this is horrifying. This is while that y'all
are the Party of Christianity and you're treating people like
(05:51):
and not the most literal interpretation of inhumanely. You're treating
them like not human for your own political purposes and
to like do like a political prank. It feels like
it almost feels like they prank. I think that's actually
what um one of the people who's now in Martha's
(06:11):
binger actually said they were like cool uh governor to
Santa's cool prank man, that you really really got us
because so the details that are emerging is that they
like lied to them. They were like, hey, yeah, there's
gonna be good jobs if you go on this plane,
and uh yeah, just just go on there. Well we'll
(06:33):
we'll see on the other side. And you know, they
also I think falsified, um their address records two so
that they would be technically illegal when they arrived. So
just all around, um truly wild. And so then I've
seen people responding to the news and to the people
(06:57):
who have a soul being like this is the worst
thing I've ever seen, being like, ha, see you've talked
about sanctuary like they're just going brushing past the idea
of you know, these are human beings. Are what are
you doing and being like see you don't like it now,
like just kind of yeah, they're like, oh, you wanted
sanctuary cities, And I was like, but this isn't an
(07:18):
ethical way. This isn't a sanctuary city anymore. And the
way that you did it because you purposely try to
funk with the people who are seeking asylum and make
it a point that they can't really ethically legally seek
that asylum by falsifying the records, lying to them about
where they're going X y Z. It's so it is
(07:38):
it literally gets under my skin like gross, like I
want to vomit type of feeling listening to this story
because it's not new. It is new for it to
get this type of attention. But there's so many different
ways this has already been happening from for migrants in
this country for many, many, many many years, and from
(08:00):
any different places. I feel like even back in the day,
like the Bootstrap program for Puerto Ricans to come into
this country, they were allied to where they were going
to go, where these jobs were going to be. Like
it is just such a tale as old as time
when it comes to border relations of the United States.
But it is so sick and sad and twisted to
(08:20):
see these families be you know, violated, lied to use
as props, to be you know, treated as like you said, subhuman.
And it's so ironic for these Christian conservatives to behave
this way when they truly choose to go on mission
trips to these third world countries and take pictures with
(08:41):
their kids and be like, look, I'm such a good person.
I like disrupted the ecosystem of this area, and look
at me doing volunteer work. I'm doing mission work, and
I'm found back. But if they try to come here
m hm yeah. And it's also telling that so they've
already constructed the r meant that they're going to have
in their mind, right, So they sent the people, and
(09:05):
then they assumed that the communities where they were sending
them to would be equally in humane and be like,
get this garbage out of here. And they're like, see,
you don't like it now, because not only is their
mind incapable of like actually conceiving of these migrants as
human beings, but they can't conceive of other Americans feeling
(09:28):
that way. And so they just kind of like power
through to the next step in their argument. Even though
that's that's not the reaction people are having. People are
just being like, yeah, we're trying to help them, what
are you? You know, I'm sure not everybody and Martha's
fingerd is doing that. I know that. Uh, Like some
of these rich communities have very conservative, wealthy people. I
(09:49):
know one person was openly being like, what Obama should
open his house to them. I saw a tweet today
which I'm sure was in relation to this, but it
was like some con serve at an asshole was like,
why don't illegals ever go to Puerto Rico? And it
was like, I that doesn't help either, Like you can't
ship them to another place that's also disadvantaged. Like oh
(10:12):
my god, all right, so let's take a quick break
and we'll be right back. And we're back, and there's
there's a new trailer for this Netflix Jeffrey Dahmer series
(10:36):
that looks so dark and bleak and I just can't
I don't know. There there's our guests on Monday's episode
of a podcast where they were recently debating like movies
verse TV UM, which like, obviously you don't have to
pick one side or the other UM, But I do
(10:57):
feel like sometimes I am infl once by growing up
as a movie fan and like growing up in an
era when movies where art and TV was you know,
sitcoms and The A Team and Night Rider and like
just kind of shitty, shitty TV. So sometimes I like
(11:18):
worry that I'm missing out on great TV because I
I still just like get excited about movies and movie
trailers and treat movie releases as events in my mind,
and I don't have that same reaction around TV, but like,
this feels very much like one of those things that
(11:39):
I don't I feel like TV should never attempt something
something that is like so dark, And it is so
Ryan Murphy to want to take on this topic, it
is so Evan Peters to want to be a part
of it. So where do I know Evan Peters from?
Because I saw the trailer and I was like, oh,
Evan Peters waiting. He's a ry Mark Darling, so he's
(12:01):
in all of the or almost all of American horror story.
He tends to lean in this like creepy like world. Um.
He also was in kick Ass. He's like one of
the psychic friends. He also, um is Quicksilver in the
X Men series of um, the movies, I think like
(12:23):
the Course one or whatever, the new Class x Men
First Class. Yeah, um, so he's Quicksilver for that. Um.
I think he did a little crossover in the Wanda
Vision world and plays Quicksilver there too, kind of showing
that like X Men is gonna move over and a
Wanta Vision a hole of thing. But um yeah, So
(12:43):
I have loved Evan Peters like I've grown up with
Evan Peters and loving this creepy world. But I agree
with you where I uh. Super producer Brian put in
the chat, why do we keep doing this for sick
a serial killer ship? I'm also done with it, Like
I feel like we give especially specifically serial kill there's
way too much time of day. They're evil people like
(13:04):
they target really underrepresented like sad and this is very
much so. Yeah, we're telling the story of like just
a an alcoholic like white guy who's just like a
complete failure and then just goes around and gets away
with murdering like people of color because the police are
(13:25):
just like I don't know, man like exactly. And they've
already made a movie. They've already you know, with um
Cross Lynch is his name. He was a Disney Darling
and now and then was on Netflix's Sabrina and then
he did that movie as well. So it's like they
already in the movie. Why I think I'm good. I'm
(13:46):
kind of with you. I'm team movie. I love movies.
I like having a short like not sure movies aren't
short anymore, but I like knowing it's like start to finish,
like this is a complete story. When I'm like watching it,
I get to go and consume in this piece of
art and like feel the full It's like reading a book,
like from start to end you're like, ah, I got it.
I've absorbed that. That was beautiful. Whereas TV, it's created
(14:10):
this like constant pump system where it's like, yeah, we
can get a limited series, but if it's really loved,
will like spin it into like eight more and then
like a three spinoff shows and then like a character
ark in this and it's just like two. I feel
overwhelmed by the amount of content that's out there that
I tend to spiral into reality TV. And I used
to never be a reality TV person, but I feel
(14:31):
like it's the only thing I can consume lately that
I'm like, I don't have to like stress about where
this is going. Right, It's mindless, it's numbing. It's fun,
but it's it's not supposed to be art. And I
get people are like, we're in the best generation of TV,
but I'm tired there's too much TV. Yeah yeah, I mean,
(14:53):
you know, the Wire Sopranos all like really great and
proved that you can do serious art as as TV,
but like the Hit to Miss Ratio, like I don't
have to dig for two examples of great movies. And
this is obviously like a very controversial thing. Like I
(15:13):
think when I when I see something on TV, like
just the frame rate, I biases me against it, like
if it's at the TV frame rate versus the movie
frame rate, and like that's like there's that has that's
nothing but bias. But at the same time, I don't know.
This definitely feels like if you're going to do a
(15:35):
portrait of a serial killer, like you don't people, you
don't want to make people sit with that for to
be like all right, I'm coming back for episode two
to see what's happening. Yeah, Because it's also like Ryan
Murphy has a tendency to really blow it up right
to like it is controversial by nature on purpose, like
(15:56):
Ryan Murphy loves to like toe the line of inappropriate
and camp and with the story, like Jeffrey Dahmer, it's
like to me, is it worth telling that line? Is
it worth telling? Like I watched Glee back in the day,
I've watched probably almost anything Rhyme Murphy has made, and
I love like American Crime Story was fine, um the
(16:17):
New The Gosh. He had another show with Gwyn Paltrow recently,
and this first season was good. The second season was
too much, and like Glee, you could make a case
study for like was it camp or was it inappropriate?
A lot of times who knows. It's a different area
of television, but this story arguably does not need to
(16:39):
be told again. Yeah, everybody's clamoring for the guy from
Glee to make Jeffrey Dahmer movie. Um Well. Speaking of
tv SNL's new cast members were announced Marcello Hernandez, Molly Kearney,
Michael Longfellow, and Devin Walker. Um. He said that you've
you're familiar with their work. I'm familiar with one of them. Um.
(17:03):
I know one of them was on Conan. I really
liked his stand up. It was very funny. Um, But
otherwise unfamiliar with these three faces. One of them is
Cuban Dominican, which is cool. More representation is always loved.
It feels like it's a one it went out scenario
with um Melissamana Senor is out. They bring in Marcello Hernandez,
(17:27):
but they also have the first non binary performer on
the show, which is awesome. That one is Molly Kearney.
So you know, cool, that's great. It's going to be
very interesting to see where this season goes because they
lost seven cast members this season, which is a lot,
so I don't know, they haven't even filled all of
(17:50):
them back, only Coore so well. And finally, The New
York Times has an article that is basically positing that
the movie Don't Worry Darling, which we've been following because
we thought the trailer looked good then people saw it
and the critics are like a kind of a sticker,
(18:11):
and that obviously we've been following it because there's a
lot of controversy around, like what happened on set, like
the various you know, um the director, that the key
players fighting with one another, possibly fighting with one another,
possibly spitting on one another, um. And The New York
Times has an article that I only bring up, like
(18:33):
we've we've talked plenty about Don't Worry Darling. We don't
need to talk anymore about this movie, but until it
comes out. It's like, I think this is a new
level of New York Times, like getting something completely wrong
on you know, the issue, on an issue that doesn't
(18:53):
matter at all, but it's just so there. Their theory
is that the reason this movie might do bed is
because of the controversy around it, like that that is
actually bad for the movie. Um, Whereas this is a
movie that is Taylor made to like if it got
(19:14):
just great reviews, everybody would go see it. It's that
type of movie that like needs to get good reviews,
and once it has good reviews, like there's going to
be interest in it. It looked like trippy and interesting.
So if it was at like ninety percent on Rotten
Tomatoes or like The Woman King for instance, I feel
like everybody would go see it. But instead it's at
(19:36):
thirty five. But their thesis instead is but now the
thirty five million dollar production is being referred to around
town as kill your darlings. Over the past three weeks,
the ones highly anticipated movie has become a spectacle in
all the wrong ways, with its director Olivia wild self
immolating on the publicity trail. Now all eyes are on
(19:56):
the box office, as the film, one of only three
Warner Brothers is releasing theatrically through the remainder of the year,
debuts nationally on September, and then like later, they revealed
that Olivia Wilde canceled an interview with them, So I
do think it's just them. Yeah yeah, I know, like
that is probably a smart publicity move, but um, they
(20:18):
are I think probably just being a little but her,
a little little stanistic. I mean this review to me
as much as like the presses is crazy, and I
do think because like you're saying, like on in Tomatoes,
I'm sure now with like the crazy press people want
to go see it just to be like what is it?
Then like like the reviews are bad but the drama
(20:41):
is good, or like interesting good not like actually good
for anybody. Um, I think now more than ever people
want to see it. But I also think this is
like almost an unfair critique because so many men, so
many male directors in Hollywood gets to have crazy publicity
stunts and crazy failings and they get another movie and
get like the thirty five plus million dollar budget again.
(21:04):
And you know, I'm not saying I am team Olivia
Wild or team Olivia Wild's character by any means. But
to me, Book Spart was a great first movie. I
don't think she's a bad director. I think she deserves
another shot at directing. And if this tanks and she
doesn't get it, I feel like Hollywood has learned nothing
from me to write, has learned nothing from like becoming
(21:26):
more progressive as we you know, probably ny of that,
but it just would make me sad to see if
like this puts more female directors behind because of it's
like perpeting its own problem. It's like, that's not Olivia
Wild's fault at that point. That is the system and
the industry's fault of like not being able to give
her the you know come back that many many, many
(21:47):
many men directors have gotten over and over and over again.
And it's yeah, it's like this is a long tradition
of directors having success with like one of their early
projects and then they get to make like their big statement,
super ambitious, oftentimes overly ambitious movie that kind of tanks.
(22:11):
And that's what that is sort of the rhythm of
a Hollywood director for the most part. Um and that
the fact that this scandal is being overlaid onto that
and being like, well, there's also a level of personal
failure and you know, more moral like repugnance at the
(22:32):
core of this that will allow us to write Olivia
Wild Off is pretty frustrating. I just wonder if like
a male director were in the same scenario. Would the
New York Times have written the same article? You know,
that's like my only I want them to think about that,
you know, go back to the riding board and be like,
had I put a man? Have I put all over
(22:54):
wild in here? Would I have written the same article?
I don't know. I don't know if they would have.
So yeah, I think this is just the New York
Times wanting to write a gossip column but having to
have like a news hook for it, and so being like,
is this because they do bring They're like they quote
someone is saying there's some degree of sexism in this Um.
Maybe they could have moved that to the top and
(23:15):
been like, there's some degree of sexism in this article?
Being yes, Um, anyways, Becca, such a pleasure having you
on the dailysa geist Um. Where can people find you?
Follow you all that good stuff? You can find me
and follow me at bex, b e CCS, Ramos on
all platforms. You can also find me at mel Mundo's Books.
(23:36):
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on the weekends. They deserve all your love and support,
go support Latin X businesses. Uh yeah. And if you
are in New York City on September and you are
a fan of Julissa caldron Um, she is going to
be doing an event at mel Mundo's Books September twenty
(23:58):
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So yeah, that is a meal Mundo's book, my m
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If you want to go find workout, go check it out.
All right, that is going to do it for us
this afternoon. We're back on Monday with the whole last
episode of the show. Until then, have a great weekend.
Be kind to each other, be kind to yourselves, get
the vaccine if you can, don't do nothing about white supremacy.
And we will talk to y'all on Monday. I
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