December 30, 2019 • 51 mins
Jack, and Miles go over all the most memorable parts of the 2016 and 2017 years.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to this very special episode
of jur Daily Zeitgeights, product of I Heart Radio. This
is a podcast where we take a deep dive into
America's share consciousness and say, officially, off the top, fuck
the Koch Brothers, Fuck Fox News. Welcome, especially in today's
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episode because it's sometime after Christmas two thousand, nineteen, uh,
and we're looking back at the year's sixteen and seventeen.
Uh some pretty pretty remarkable years, this duo of years.
Really wow, quirkers, it's really the fucking I mean, it's
the beginning of the end. Yeah. Well, my name is
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Jack O'Brien ak pottoes O'Brien in honor of the fact
that this is also the Daily Zeitgeist came into existence
is when we first started doing a game. Uh. And
that was my first a K. And I'm thrilled to
be joined as always by my co host, Mr Miles
and my original a K a k A your boy Kusama.
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Yeah y'all don't know about her art yet? Come on, guys,
how do you not know yet? Uh? For those who
don't know, you know those big giant pumpkins with the
spots on it. Oh, hell. Yeah. Uh, well, let's let's
get right into the year two thousand sixteen. Obviously, this
year kind of split in two. Uh as I think
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for a lot of people, Uh, they did not see
that election coming. So there was the previous part prior
to the two thousand sixteen election. There was January two November,
there's January November. You're saying, so November is where the
year was split. Yesh. Yeah. There's a feeling that there's
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like sort of a anger and smug superiority felt by
both sides leading in at the election, and then the election,
and the sudden cultural realization that, uh, hey, nobody knows
anything in the media. We live in two separate realities
or yeah, many many separate realities. We've been ignoring the
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ship out of a whole bunch of them. Uh, there's
the realization that Donald Trump is going to be our
president for the next four years. All the racism that
have been boiling up that we've been seeing and police
shooting videos, and that people of color had been telling, uh,
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those of us who are not people of color about
for years. Uh that you know, we believed, but we didn't.
It hadn't really come to our doorstep to the to
the point that yeah, and then and then November rolled around,
and suddenly it was extremely real to them, and it
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was the only reality that mattered for a lot of
liberal white people who have spent their time refreshing the
New York Times palometer or whatever the funk they called that,
it was like they woke up in a new world.
The morning after the election. Yeah, I hate to say,
we told you so. I know, people of color and
Trump supporters were like, yo, welcome, welcome, motherfucker, come on down.
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I mean I think too. Also with Obama in office,
it really a lot of people just kept their ship
inside their racism. So we'll get to the movie Get
Out in two thousand and seventeen. But you know that
that line, I would have voted Obama third term if
I could have that. That is I think a lot
of white people who were just patting themselves on the back,
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just being like, we did it, we did it, We're good.
Now everything's like the media we consume. Yeah, but let's
let's get into what just the general guest stalt the
generals like guyst of the time with the movies of
the year two thousand sixteen. Uh, it was, So I'm
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just gonna read them off in the order that Google
gives them to me. La La Land number one for me,
they think I am a a douche bag. That's that's
what Google told you. Yeah, Google is like, hey, straighten
out your Fedora La La Land is your top movie
of the year two thousand and sixteen. You didn't you
take piano lessons right after that movie? Yeah, because I like,
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I don't know, there's something about when when Ryan Gosling
invented jazz in that movie? Really uh yeah, I wonder
how many people legit, not that they thought invented jazz,
but we're like, man, the music in there was really cool.
I'm gonna I think I'm gonna listen to that. I'll
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be interested to see what this movie's legacy is like
twenty years down the line, because it's there was such
a backlash. I think deserved deserved backlash a little bit.
It that like some people are just way too into it,
and then people were like, yo, this movie, like this
main character, there's just a lot of ship that's whack
about this movie. I think it also encapsulates how a
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lot of like white people were like taking in reality
right of all the movies you could have got behind.
You're like, la la la, what about sucking moonlight? Right? Yeah?
Like no, no, no, no no no. Some Moonlight is like
happy Dance Dance, Happy Dance Dance. Yeah. I don't want
to hear about what it's like to be all come
on to say that white people were living in La
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la land before the two thousand and sixteen election might
be two on the nose, but I'm gonna go ahead
and say it. Doctor Strange is my second movie. I
never even saw that ship. I saw part of it
on the plane just to see what's her face? Be
an Asian person? Uh, Tilda Swinton was like the ancient
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one or something incient One. They were like, nah, the
the ancient one, who is a martial arts expert should
not be a person of Asian descent. That should be
should be Swinton, who, honestly, I think she's from her
own planet, her own type of human. Yeah. She got
a DNA test and it was like, you are the
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ancient one, Tilda Swinton. Zootopia is my top five from Google.
They're just like, can you do the same naming? Yeah, yeah,
just do goog I just do movies. Two thousands sixteen,
and that's what it gives sixteen. My first one is Zootopia,
Damn Son, and my second one is La La Land. Okay, okay,
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what's number three? This is how so my so my
first is La La Land, my second is Moonlight, my
third is Utopia, and I get Manchester by the Sea
because I'm a sad boy. It's I didn't get Doctor
Strange so much later arrived. I didn't either on this time, like,
I don't know how these localized results were right, but
I got a rival. On the top five. I get
Deadpool is up there? Uh Captain America Civil War? Which
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makes sense? What was hell or high Water? Is that
anywhere for you? That was the bank heist one? Yeah,
I watched it. I like that. I didn't like. I didn't. Uh.
I mean the fact that I even sat down put
the DVD in means that I was invested in seeing
it like anything. Because most of the time I don't
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go to the movies a lot. I'll I just watched screeners,
so that's when it gets very selective. But I did
watch that because my mom was like, I like it. Yeah,
I'm like, okay, well, all y'all y'all take that to
the bank. Mohanna is way up there for me. Uh
not where it's not. It's not Zuotopia level, but it's uh,
you know, to find the zeitgeist apparently that year. Remember
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when we started the show and I was like, man,
Mohanna is a big deal for these kids. Yeah, where'd
that go? I think it's still there. I just think
it's been you know, Frozen is its. I was claiming
Mohanna was the new Frozen because like all kids under
the age of ten knew all the words to Mohana.
But uh, turns out Frozen is the new Frozen because
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I can't even say I know that Frozen is let
it go. I can't off instinctively say what's the mahana?
Yeah you need a song? Yeah? Um what for you?
Of these movies? Did you actually like person? Because I
know we're saying that's number one for me for people
who are confused. That's what Google is serving us as
a result, not our rankings. I mean Moonlight I think
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is actually I'm gonna go La La Land. Moonlight was incredible.
I mean that's just like a towering piece of art. Yeah.
I would probably go with Finding Dory finding just good
finding Dory, and I mean it speaks to the collective
amnesia of our culture. Thank you, That's exactly that. And
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then and then in second Suicide Squad, right, yo, Suicide
Squad came out this year. Also Batman Verse Superman. What
were they thinking? What what a run Man from from
the d C universe? Yeah? What did The Accountant? What's
that's Ben Affleck. That's Ben Affleck. That movie completely disappeared.
So some movies that completely disappeared from the national consciousness.
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I mean, Sully didn't completely disappear, because that story is
still a big deal. But like I feel like that
nobody's quoting that, nobody's quoting Sully. Nobody's saying I'm the
Sully now. Uh, I mean they should be. Yeah, but
uh yeah, I would say the The Accountant is one
of those movies that just completely disappeared. The BFG, the
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Big fucking Giant. Uh, Jason Bourne, I forgot there was
a new born movie, Star Trek Beyond Out. Yeah, there
was a Star Trek movie and it was a flop.
I remember people were like, like a Chris Pine Star
Trek movie, not that one. Yeah, there was a Crisp
Pine Star Trek movie that I think it was the third. Uh.
Warcraft is one of those movies I think we've talked
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out before. Was a big hit overseas, this big deal overseas,
and nobody watched it here I went at the time.
I was just starting to work at Conde Nast and
we did a like a like a junket for Warcraft,
And there were some interactions between the cast members that
were so there was something going on between those cast members.
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They didn't like each other, they didn't like each other
or there were a lot of her It was weird,
like it wasn't like anything else where people were just
talking about their film. There was a lot of passive
aggressive energy being okay, and then people like can you
got this stuff out? Only to be only to be
revived on a podcast years later. Uh. There was a
new Born movie that I think has completely disappeared from
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people's memory. Uh, sing completely. I remember the posters. Yeah,
that's that's a big one with kids. What singh Street?
Sing Street is from the dude who made once I
think okay or maybe did you watch Sausage Party? No?
I did good. No. I like the idea that what
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wasn't there like something where you people only had access
to the reality that their food was alive when they
were high or something like that. Could I honestly, the
second I realized like it was just like a weird
adult thing with like lame Dick jokes, I was like,
all right, I'm gonna mosey on out. Um. So, I
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don't know, those are the movies of the year. Nothing
really jumps out to me other than Moonlight, Like nothing
is like a lasting thing that people are gonna be
talking about decades from now. Maybe Finding Dory Finding Door
is a great sequel. I loved this out that I
liked that before I even had kids, and then I
just watched it with my son recently, and it was
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a blast. Uh in terms of like kind of what
people were searching, what was trending that year? Uh, Pokemon
go number one, man two above Donald Trump in your face.
I remember when like there were videos of people like
running through Central Park on just the strength of rumors
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certain creatures being there. I'm like, Yo, what the funk
are y'all doing? And then I remember being at Comic
Con that year, nobody was like the fucking bank. Cellular
bandwidth was diminished from all these people just pokemon it up. Yeah.
I I took exactly one walk through a city with
somebody who was like doing the Pokemon thing. I was like,
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I can't, I can't be friends with people. Well, I
think it's one of those things like we I think,
I think it's safe to say I can speak for
you that we both don't really funk with Pokemon in that,
like we don't know anything about it aside from maybe
a couple of characters. And then they like that I
didn't play the game Boy game, and I feel like
for those people who really who who funk with the universe?
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It was fine, but also like trying to get me outside? No,
how about that? How about that? Uh? There were um
so then there was the election. Uh that I'm just
I I like looking back at the time magazine like
where they were at with this. At the end of
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it was the quote October surprises that ultimately came to
dominate the story of the election. Trump's came in the
form of a leaked access Hollywood tape, and Hillary Clinton's
came when FBI Director James Comey went to Congress updating
the status of the investigation. And it never quite disappeared.
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Uh so I'm interesting. Yeah, that's one way. I think
that's like the literally like the November ninth, take what happened,
and they're like, wait, what else there? What were the
other dimension what were the other forces at work? Because
we're still looking at this election through like the lens
of every other sort of traditional election for lack of
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a better term. Yeah, both story lines exemplify the dark
clouds that hovered over each candidate throughout the race. So
they were still covering Hillary Clinton's emails like it was
an equivalent scandal to anything that's gone on with tront
To Maggie Haberman. Now Americans are buckling up for the
political roller coaster ride that's likely to last for the
next four years. Hey said, what way to mitigate? I know,
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and just like a roller coaster ride, what a blast?
What a blast? And I think the person in front
of me vomited. And we're doing a revolution right now.
It's getting in my face. Yeah, people's earrings are falling off.
Somebody lost their lucky hat and then they went to
retrieve their lucky hat underneath the roller coaster and got beheaded.
That's actually something I do remember some guy going underneath
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and getting I think that's the only roller coaster metaphor
that we could use for that year. That would Yeah,
I think that was I think that was like the nineties.
I think that was when we were kids. Was that
like going to those urban legends? No, but it's not
in Yeah, I've forget what the park was, but it
definitely happened. I remember it's probably like over here at
six Flags Magic Mountain when Goliath came out, like I
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think a dude had a heart attack from the first drop. Yeah,
so that's kind of fitting one of those roller coaster rides.
One guy at a heart attack, the other guy got
beheaded trying to retrieve his lucky hat. Uh, and my
mom lust her earring Welcome to Flags Tragic Mountain. Uh.
They do mention the Russia hacking. Uh. That's their number
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two story of the year, the hacking of the Democratic
National Committee. But they say, but it increasingly became clear
that the larger story was that the hack revealed America's
vulnerability is to countries like Russia. So it was just
their bigger story is that this can happen at all.
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But I mean it was a opposition military targeting some
old guys Gmail. It's not like, yeah, of course they
can do that. That's not the larger story. The larger
story is that we've lowered the discourse to the point
that like candidates can just accept the aid of a
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foreign hostile power, and like people are just like but
it's just like everybody's doing everything in their power to
not look at that because they got to both sides
the ship. Or it's just like the surprise that like,
you know, not that the media would be that this honest,
but be like, whoa the thing that we do happen
to us? Right, yeah, yeah, wow, yeah, that's been happening.
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That's right. We like to do this ship all the time.
We didn't think anyone would have the call to do
it right back. I mean like looking at let's say,
because it's gonna happen Russia hacks whoever the Democratic candidates
email is or there uh you know, somebody on their
staff's email and leaks the documents, Like the media is
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still going to print that ship, right like whatever the
leaks are, Yeah, they're still gonna do what they did
with Hillary's emails, where they were like John Podesta said
this and like yeah, I'm sure I'm sure they're going
to do that. Um so, I mean, nothing's changed like that.
That's the only thing they could change is if the
media was like and we agree to never like print
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hacked material. We agree to leave an impression based ad
revenue model if that dictates how we present stories. But yeah,
the thing of this right up suggests that we are
a national front. Who was behind the net Russian national front?
Like ite'ts written from like a Cold War ethos, Like
this is the new space race. It's all about hacking.
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We gotta catch up with our hacking. Uh, we're gonna
take a quick break. We'll be back with a little
more and then get into which was a fucking quarker
of a year. M And we're back and all right.
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Twenty sixteen also like no slouch in terms of just
huge horrifying events U breggsit happened. There was a bunch
of terror attacks around the world. Um, there was the
Istanbul airport, the guy who drove a truck through a
crowd celebrating bestial Day and niece. Uh, twelve people died
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when a hijacked truck slammed into a popular Christmas market
in Berlin. Uh. And then there was the Pulse nightclub shooting,
which was amid Pride celebrations. Uh, it was the worst
mass shooting in modern US history un next year until
the next year exactly. But yeah, that and then everybody
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died and then yeah, Prince David Bowie, Alan Rickman and
Gene Wilder, Muhammad Ali, I mean, fuck, please put some
respect on Justice Antonin Scalia's name too. And so this
was right when Mitch McConnell started with his bullshit. Um yeah,
but the Conservatives lost theirs too, Scalia and Nancy Reagan.
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Scalia was what was he like some hunting lodge like
out in the probably being like had a prostitute on
top of him. Who knows we're under him when he died. Uh,
that's but that's just me speculating allegedly allegedly almost definitely, Yeah,
I mean yeah, that really that his death really kind
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of triggers this really dark shift. That's like, I mean,
McConnell was fucking around since time immemorial, but like to
completely be like I'm not going to confirm a Supreme
Court justice. It's like, oh, so the rules no longer applied,
Like it's not this is the beginning of the publicans
just not even paying any attention to any norms. Yeah,
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this is the beginning of the what're gonna do about it? Yeah?
Because yeah, what what what are you going to do?
I think we've talked about the quote before that like
people political insights are people who are experts on politics
and Washington talk about the fact that it's rules and
laws and norms, and so if you just decide, fuck
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the norms, fuck all the things that we agreed we do, Uh,
fuck you sue me. In other words, you're gonna be
you can be able to get away with some ship. Yeah.
And I think at the end of it, we were saying, like,
I guess we need to actually start like articulating these
common sense things into straight up laws. And because there's
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just too much latitude for people to you know, funk around,
the opioid crisis started really spiraling out of control, kind
of went viral with a bunch of pictures of people
odeing in public, and yeah, it was it was fucked up.
There's the police officer ambushes in Dallas and Baton Rouge.
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But also, you know, police officers shooting people of color
continued unabated, uh, And there was the sexual assault sentencing outrage,
which kind of foreshadowed what was to come in with
then too movement, because this was the year that Brock Turner,
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a good young man with a bright future, was sentenced
to just six months in jail when he was caught
based salting an unconscious person behind a dumpster. Um. So, hey, man,
look this is again we got all kinds, We got
many different justice systems to different legal systems for different
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people of different classes. Yeah, and it's just you know,
the it was totally depend it on his race, the
race of the judge, and uh bullshit. All right, let's
get into let's go right into the stories because it's
there's kind of a through line from and then we
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can talk about movies. But uh so, obviously Trump was
sworn in immediately started talking shipped to North Korea. This
was before he decided to make nice, when it was
just tightening of the screw slowly, one tweeter at a time.
I was horrified. Yeah, everybody thought we were gonna fucking die.
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Like it was the most worried people had been about
nuclear weapon killing a whole city full of Americans since
uh since the Cold War. There all maps of like
where their nukes could hit the US technically. Yeah, a
lot of Los Angeles on there, Yeah, I do, people
like well, his dad really liked Hollywood, right, But that's
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why he would have made it. Um yeah, Docca because
Trump and Sessions began openly talking immediately about their white
supremacist agenda. Hurricane Maria. This was also a year of
just massive, horrifying hurricanes, Hurricane Maria, which devastated Puerto Rico,
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and yeah, it really brought out the man like watching
them the president, his response to that show, like God
damn it. I mean, yeah, I think we're the whole time,
It's like, God, what the fund is this? Ye're gonna
look like And every every month that got like weirder
and weirder. And then the Maria ship with him just
completely trying to like shame that people of Puerto Rico
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acting like they're not Americans was so like on, like
the racism was so transparent on its face that he
was who he thought he was. I mean there was
I mean, yeah, we we thought who he said he was.
Hurricane Harvey happened just parked over Houston and uh, you know,
for like a week and just fucking flooded the ship
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out of that city. But let's talk about this one
week long stretch that I didn't realize all these things
happened in like five days. The Las Vegas shooting happened
on the night of October first, two thousand seventeen, a
shoot her open fire on a crowd of concert goers.
One thing that I hadn't there, that my memory hadn't
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quite gotten about that is I mean, so this was
sort of the nightmare scenario for anyone who worries about
guns and just how readily accessible they are and how
easy it is for somebody to build up an arsenal.
Is that you know, the person was shooting from a
great distance, so it's very difficult to locate. He was
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shooting with automatic weapons into a crowd. So I mean,
just the worst case scenario in every respect. But I
hadn't I thought that they like kind of immediately figured
out where he was and like came for him. But
they found him dead in his room an hour after
the shooting, Like they hadn't gotten to him while he
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was tolive. Like I knew that I thought he had
shot himself as they were storming his room, but it
was an hour. Yeah, it was an hour later. Like
so that's that's how like powerful these weapons are. That
like he was just often the distance somewhere and nobody
could like figure out where he was coming from for
an hour. Uh, And yeah, I remember the conspiracy theories
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were right, Yeah, because I mean it's also the perfect
storm and that he we still don't have a motive,
like we do we know that he was wanting to
do this, just he had researched different locations where there
was going to be a crowd. He had even rented
hotel rooms like above Lallapaluza above another concert in in
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Chicago and then also and I had rented and stayed
in a hotel room in Vegas for a period but
didn't carry out the attack and then just actually did.
But he he had been googling terms from mid September
such as SWAT weapons ballistics chart three O eight, swat
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Las Vegas and do police use explosives? So like he
it was super premeditated. Who the funk knows, like what
infected this guy's soul and made him just decide to
do this, But that makes it a perfect storm for
conspiracy theorists. I mean the false flagship that came out
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like immediately was like just really awful, and especially considering
like the amount of like almost people were killed, hundreds
were injured. So on the second of October, and obviously
this is an equivalent, but it's just uh kind of
a bombshell. Tom Petty died of a drug overdose. Uh.
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Tom Petty was like in his sixties. Uh. And again,
like he somebody said that they like he was always
a like basically a sober musician throughout like his heyday,
Like he didn't like get he didn't use drugs, he
didn't drink that much. And then like once he hit forty,
he was like, I'll give this a try, and like
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that's when it started, like really strange sort of progression.
But this was just, you know, he died of a
fentanyl overdose, which is what we found out Prince died
of in Uh. So you know it was that. And
apparently like almost a third of the overdose deaths from
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opioids in America were caused by fentanyl. Yeah. And then
ten five, the New York Times publishes the first story
detailing decades of sexual harassment and assault allegations against Harvey Weinstein.
So that's a I know, so this was and then
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we started Zeitgeist. The next week, October nine, the Second
Rate podcast, Gail z Guess begins, I mean and then answered,
I saw this neooze breaking, and I shot a blunt
signal into the sky at the moon. Miles saw it
came away from Canada. Yeah, I have to go. My
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planet needs me. Uh. And then ten ten the New
Yorker Story breaks, running Pharaoh's story. Uh. And then ten fifteen,
Melissa Milano writes, if you've been sexually harassed or assaulted,
rape me too, as a reply to this tweet and
kind of mainstreamed a thing that had been started many
years ago. But there there were like a lot of
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people I had missed who had been assaulted by Weinstein,
like Lena Hetty from from Thrones, Lauren Holly from Dumb
and Dumber, like all these people who he just like
cut the swath of fucking horror through, like all these
I remember the repeated Inongo right up because she had
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talked about how he was drinking like diet coke and vodka. Yeah,
And I was like, what if bombo Yeah? Uh, but yeah,
he just terrifying ship. And I think that look at
him now, because all this subtrofusion, fake sympathy props he's using. Look,
I'm in a hospital. Help me. What would a guy?
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Would an old guy who had to go to the
hospital be a just a predator? Yeah, I mean this
is clearly like he got a some pr advice, because
just a couple of months ago, I remember seeing pictures
of them walking into the courtroom and just looking like
I think he was like laughing. Just put him under
the jill, seriously, all right, we're gonna take a quick
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break and we'll be back with more news and the
movies of the year. And we're back, And so Matt
Lauer broke December one. I thought Matt Lauer was like
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a year later. I didn't realize it was like just
a month later. I think maybe it felt because we
had moved offices from October. Then by December we were
in the new spot when it was just so much
news in that period, I mean it was, well, that's
what we had, like when the Manghazi segment was non stop. Yeah,
that really did feel like it. Yeah, I guess because
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the news was so fucking dense. It felt like a
year's worth of news had happened in one month. Which
I mean that's what when people talk about how they
like remember things, remember traumatic things happening in slow motion,
it's not that the at the time you were experiencing
them in slow motion. It's that your memory starts like
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recording more and so it's like you have more things too,
and like your memories like in four case, yeah you
went from and it's almost like it's, you know, way
to record something in slow motion. You start moving the
film through the projector faster. Uh so, oh, little cinematography,
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little cinematography. But I think, I mean one of the
major stories that we can't overlook from that the year
seventeen that we're still feeling the effects of here in
the studio is the fidget spinner. Uh it was big.
I mean honestly it was. It was cracking before you know,
around twenty sixteen too. But I love the fidget spinner.
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I have the Google I have a chart in the
dock of the Google search popularity of fidget spinners in
early seventeen, And it was like in May it just
shot up and was like sky through the month of
May June, and then by July it was like backed
down to just not being really anything. It was, Man,
(31:59):
I I still stand the fidget spinner. I mean our
first merch of this show was a fidget spinner. Yeah yeah,
it was coming around the house right in front of you.
There's some of my son's favorite toys. I do have
one right in front of me. Yeah yeah, I mean
when he when he thinks to look at it, it's
yeah yeah yeah. He like ship that spins. It's fun.
(32:22):
Yeah it is. I mean I know a lot of
people were like it helps with a d h D.
I think it was just our nation needed some soothing distraction,
like something soothing to look at. Yeah, like okay, every
can I just spin? How about a nice little spinny? Yeah,
like something that was easy. There wasn't resistance. It was
just like if you have if you have like busy
hands though too, like it's perfect. Like because for me,
(32:45):
like in high school or college, I'm always doing ship
with my pen. So having like a fidget spinner that's
sound of the spinner, sound of the spinner, yeah, helped helped. No,
I don't. I don't have any I wish I had
trick skills like transferring from finger to finger. I wish
you did too, Man, did you look you know it's
we're all disappointing, really sad. Santa really fucked me over
(33:06):
for me the skills to be a competitive spin boy.
Um solar eclipse that was another big story that yeah
kind of man, we really got the shitty version of
that eclipse though down here, like obviously because we weren't
in the direct path of the eclipse, we got like
the you know, the target version when people up in Oregon,
(33:28):
we're getting like the full blown like the ship that
made the ancient people be like and then the demon game.
Can I be straight with you though? Yeah? Go ahead?
Can yeah? Go ahead? Are you sure because this is
a safe space. Yeah. I never saw a single image
of the solar eclipse that impressed me at all. Holy shit,
yeah you wait, so you just go yeah, that's how
(33:54):
I felt, man like, wait, based on what the what
the actual image was or the idea of are so
the celestial bodies? Have you ever tried to take a
picture of a cool looking moon, like, yeah, the moon
is in the sky and it looks cool, as I
did once And I remember my dad, who was a photographers, like,
it's not gonna look it's an optical illusion, Pasually when
(34:15):
it looks big. I remember, like I think back in twelve.
I don't know why it's then, because I felt like
Facebook was like, yo, the moon's so big right now,
and everyone was fresh like putting up whack as regular
sized moon photos, Like what the fun because right like
the moon is always the same size and the sky
as just like what it's near that makes it look bigger. Waits,
(34:35):
but you you would say that you could stand. You
saw the footage of people like in the people that
were like in the optimal path, and we don't think
that that even you know, but this sequence to like
be out during the day, it suddenly go to like
just nearly nighttime level darkness. I guess the coolest shit
I saw were the people who were just filming around
(34:58):
them and it was like it went a dusk, but
it was still I don't know, it was fine. It
was fine. I'm just saying suppressive more than anything, a
lesson that you can't grab anything that's in the sky,
like it's not Grandma Ball. So you just weren't people's
eclipse flex posts and I was like, oh man, this
is gonna be an event. We're going to see all
(35:20):
these cool different like well that one photo that was
like taken by like proper scientific, like real good imagery
of it. That ship looked like the Ring, right, Yeah,
and that's one for me. It wasn't that. I wasn't impressed.
I'm just like, I don't mess with demonic stuff. I'm Japanese.
I know the power of the Ring or dingu and
you know what, I'm not gonna check me with that one.
(35:40):
The best the best picture of that is still Trump
looking directly into it, straight into the fucking Rauh. We
were on a balcony asking other people with like proper
eclipse I wear because we were trying to be like
what if we just like kind of peak real quick
and they're like, please don't do that. Here look through
here and are we work that? Remember that that version
(36:02):
was definitely not impressive. That that version of when we
were l a Verton know, the l A version of
the eclipse that suck. This is this is dumb as fuck.
It was dope to like it was a cool experience
to have like just everybody coming out of there like
offices at the same time. Like that reminded me of
like my grandma used to tell me about like the
(36:23):
day uh Pearl Harbor was bombed the like people would.
People were all like just walking out of their house
and walking out of buildings just to like see other people.
Basically we're seeing this, right, Yeah, that was the closest
we got. Uh but I did see a lot of
people trying to like do the selfie in front of
the thing just wasn't working. Yeah, um if it burnt
(36:46):
out people's camera, like you also can't aim your ship
at the Also, I guess I should say that there's
just a steady drumbeat of the top trending news stories
in all these years. Is that whatever the latest iPhone
is so go year, what was like the iPhone eight
or something. I just don't put it here because that's
just some ship that we care about at the time.
(37:06):
But it's not it doesn't have any bearing on it's
just they slowly get better, slowly, but surely they do.
And uh yeah, I'm trying to think of anything else
that was interesting. And that iPhone eight, you know, I
remember one of my co workers got it and they
were really proud of themselves today. And then ye uh
so seventeen good Year from movies. I think both of
(37:30):
these actually pretty decent years from get out came out
in we suddenly realized the underrated dude from Key and
Peel was actually like one of our great directors. Uh
Dunkirk came out, Christopher Nolan back on top Wonder Woman, Ladybird.
(37:50):
This is the order it gave me, although it changes
from Google to Google apparently. Uh. Logan Thor ragnar Rock
Star Wars, the last Jedi man that has been WHOA
just very iconic for some people. And Laura shout out
to Laura during in that one when she like nine
(38:10):
elevens that ship straight up into the fleet. I was
like that boy, that was a scene. I always thought like,
what would happen if you pulled that ship? And then yeah,
Logan was I was surprised by Logan. I wasn't really
going to watch it and I saw it. That little
girl in that movie is fucking an amazing actor. Yeah,
(38:31):
has she been anything since? She's about to be like
in some really some new show. She was so yeah,
and I think her like I saw her her audition
the tape. The tape of her audition is really really impressive.
She like had that feral energy girl vibe from from
(38:52):
that Bary episode. Oh yeah, unstoppable. Oh she's in her
dark material. His dark material got it thora. Ragnarok came
out very good. Uh, the Shape of Water, I feel
like the Shape of Water. I don't know, what do
you think? You think that movie is iconic, You think
it stands the test of time? That was best picture
(39:14):
that you're betture? I I think get Out. I think
get Out as for sure, if we were giving the
Oscar out today, it would have to be get Out,
it would be get At. Yeah, because I mean, like
the Shape of Water, nobody even saw that. But again,
look you see it again. Maybe it was like, look,
Moo gave Moonlight the Best Picture last year. I think
(39:36):
that's what it'll shock the world if we started saying
that black filmmakers are going to have a run of
winning Best Pictures. But yeah, I don't like we're supposed
to win that year, because I remember Shape of Water
was like last second they were like, oh yeah, people
thought get Out. How to chance it was nominated? It
did win for Best Screenplay, right, Yeah, I think so,
But I think with I don't know, I was a
(39:57):
little bit surprised that it and I don't I'm I'm
really trying to put myself back in that time when like,
what the fucking deal was? Aside from like, yo, that
dude's dick opens up from a flap and curls out
like a little arm. The sex Fish. Yeah, that was
really the only thing I really I'm still holding onto.
Call Me by Your Name came out that year, The
Florida Project, which I keep hearing is great Spider Man Homecoming.
(40:21):
They started making good Spider Man's again after earlys of
no goodness. Guardians of the Galaxy Volume two, which I
think kind of was a huge hit that then completely disappeared.
Did you see disaster artists? I didn't see it. I did.
It was solid, but also completely disappeared. Three billboards outside Eving.
(40:43):
That was that everybody thought was going to be this
is about race, this could work. Yeah that was no
good Uh, but I do like that filmmaker though. I
love a fucking what's it called in Bruges. People should
check that out if they haven't. Colin Farrell gives a
(41:04):
great performance. I stand a Colin Farrell. Uh. Coco came
out that year. That was Martin McDonough. Martin McDonnell. It
took me a second ago. Yeah. It's also a big
Walkman fan. So I would always see him at Walkman show.
Really yeah, alright, go ahead. Yeah, Coco was really good too.
That was one. See I didn't watch Mohanna. I didn't
watch the other one. Coco great. I really like Cocoa.
(41:26):
Maybe I should watch Mohanna because I feel like that
as a child that would have resonated with me the most.
Is like a vaguely brown Asian child. Of the movies,
I would say Coco is probably the best of of Morianna.
I really enjoyed Coco funk. I was like this is
I like this? Yeah? I was really and this is
one of the first Pixar films I had seen in
(41:48):
a while too. Um but I think I was like,
you know what, if they're gonna they're gonna be out
here doing doing stories about different cultures and check this
one out. John Wick two came out did better than
john Wick one, leading people to suspect this John Wick
thing might be here, might have some might have some legs. Huh.
American made Justice League completely disappeared from the consciousness. Yeah,
(42:13):
the logo Batman movie did well, but I don't really
logo Batman was that it's the logo. Yeah, it was
from the Logo Network. Yeah, yeah, yeah, was that good.
That's pretty interesting. Um so, oh it came out this year.
That was like horror movie. And then remember when everyone
was vegan after oak Ja. Yeah, I'm never eating meat man,
(42:36):
never again. Then look at look at you. Now you
go back to people who told you they were done
eating meat after seeing OAKA, and tell me how many
people still have committed to meet. Tough year for Tom
Cruise man, because this is also the Mummy year when
he came out with that Mummy he was he became
the Mummy. He becomes the Mummy. Yeah, so they were
(42:58):
trying to start a cinematic universe where in Tom Cruise
was a superhero mummy like he was the Mummy. He
because at the end spoiler alert, he becomes the Mummy
spoiler alerts that nobody saw in the first place them. Yeah,
(43:20):
and then that was gonna be like because when't they're
like a Wolfman Benicio del Toro movie that nobody saw.
They were attempting to do all those universal monsters, universal monsters.
They were gonna be like the next big thing. All
the Money in the World was a movie that I
remember seeing a lot of previews. Four I thought it
was gonna be like that years you know, Award contender
(43:44):
feel Good. I don't know what do you mean, like
after Kevin Spacey was pulled out of it. I think
I saw the I think it original. Oh yeah, so
this is right when Kevin Spacey was getting disappeared from Hollywood,
And I think was it this Winter two that he
dropped that bizarre that took like a year for him
(44:06):
to drop. But I could, like a lot of these things,
I don't, uh, like my timing is all fucked up
on Oh yeah, And who could forget iconic Asian American
actress Scarlett Johansson and the show that was when she
started her run as America's problematic Bay Transformers The Last Night.
(44:27):
I can't believe a Transformers movie came out that year.
Why that just seems like the Transformers movies where like
they were done with him. Yeah, we're like most people
were lizing years ago. We're like, we're doing this well.
I suspect that was one that was made for China,
maybe because that was one that had like wild product placement.
Were like companies like no one in America had ever
(44:48):
seen or known. Oh yeah, we covered this on dailies,
I guys, because it was just Jam McNabb, one of
our writers. We paid him to go see that movie
having to do it ourselves. Yeah, I want to see.
Let's see what kind of what kind of box office? Dude?
Is six five million in America? No? Just in general?
(45:09):
Or look at the breakout though, because I bet it
was like a very small portion was American. No, No,
that's what I mean, Like, I think, even despite it
being profitable, it could only have been a sliver of
the market. The Beauty and the Beast reboots when they started,
did you watch that doing the live the live actioning.
I've seen it. Oh you've heard I've seen it on TV.
(45:33):
I did not go see it. It is this the
one with the Homegirl from Harry Potter in it? Yes, yes, Uh,
your majesty, I forget Emma Watson. Yes, right there we go. Okay,
(45:54):
see look at us, Look at us. Between the two
of us, we know everything. Good Time him out that year.
I highly recommend you'll check that out if you like
uncut gems. Good Time? Which one was a good Time?
Good Time is the Robert Pattinson movie I keep talking about.
I saw it last weekend and then you really Yeah,
you find the guys who make the Safty Brothers, who
(46:16):
made Uncut Gems. Damn m uh a year Phantom Thread.
I didn't watch that one. That was the Daniel deay
Lewis phone. Yeah, it was pretty It's worth seeing the
the performance, the character that they created as pretty pretty well,
he's just you know, it's I don't think you'll ever
I'm trying to think of a time I saw Daniel
(46:37):
Lewis perform and you're like, yeah, even if you don't
like the dialogue or the setting or the context, I'm
always in of of you know him just get going
so deep on ship. But but then then again, I'm
not watching every film. Girls Trip Dropped. That was big.
Oh yeah, uh all right, this is this one's my
(46:59):
award for completely forgotten movie. Uh like compared to what
it was at the time. Alien Covenant, Oh yeah, I
can't believe that movie came out, that came and went
that just we should, man at one point, just really
check some of these out. See if we missed anything,
you know what I mean, I hate I'd hate to
(47:21):
think that we missed out on something in Transformers The
Last Night. Yeah, all right, so that's been seventeen. Do
we miss any stories? Probably a whole ship, all right,
People like you didn't talk about Deadpool in sixteen? Okay,
Deadpool in sixteen. Yeah, Deadpool came out. That was big.
I was surprised. I was actually, I will say that
I was bracing myself for something terrible, and I'm like, yeah,
(47:45):
I mean we didn't go through all a lot of
movies in sixteen, but that was one I actually seen
and felt positive about. So yeah, that was a good one. Uh. Ten.
Clover Field Lane came out in twenty sixteen. I liked that.
I was that in the theater. Actually I did too,
And I don't know why what compelled me to it
got I think it was like wild high on rotten tomatoes, right,
(48:08):
and so everyone was like, is this like a masterpiece
and no, it was just they were giving it a
high score for what it was, right, right, you know
which it was. It did what it tried to do.
Um oh, and then we missed it did what it
tried to do. Then we missed the biggest the movie
that defined seventeen, deep Water Horizon. Oh that's right, bro,
(48:31):
that's right. You let this oil spill, bro, Come on, bro,
come on, bro knocked out there? Yeah, I fucking knocked
this oil back in the ground. Bro. Oh shit. Alright.
So like the Award for movie that I can't believe
actually happened, I think might not have maybe Fantastic Beasts,
the Harry Potter like extension. Yo, nobody isn't that to
(48:58):
do his name clue? I think again? See this is
where I'm like, I've never seen Harry Potter things, but
some names that sounds so dumb to me. It's like
nuts commander, and I'm like, what the fund is this?
And her majesty, she likes Harry Potter, and I was
annoying the funk out of her because I was like, new,
isn't it what it is? But it's something like that.
(49:20):
I I was asking. This is like one of the
first Harry Potter films I sat through, and I just
had so many questions, like if you knew what was,
if you knew the university were in, you would stop
asking where they go and how they're getting these places.
And I'm like, what it is that's a teleport? How
many people can go there? And doesn't take time? Wars
There's some issues with the metaphysics of the Harry Potter
(49:41):
Universe one also came out in twenty six. No, not
like it's just it doesn't hold together any scrutiny. Yeah,
maybe that has time travel like that, Yeah, not many
reason for the plot. Not many writers take the responsibility
of doing a time travel script and actually ranching out
what the means for other you know, parallel timelines and
(50:04):
things like that, and sort of like, yeah, and then
we'll go there and this will happen. Then they go back,
and then that happens. Not thinking they come back. And
but honestly, half the time when you're watching you're so
like in the actual narrative of it, it's hard to
be like, well, I don't know about that. Sometimes it
is so glaring that in your mind you go, oh,
I wonder what they'll do about that, and then and
then nothing. Yeah, okay, yeah, you had to get the
(50:25):
draft in. I get it. So top three movies from
these two years you said, you said, Suicide Squad, Suicide Squad, uh,
Fantastic Beasts, Fantastic Beasts, and Alien Covenant No no, no, no,
call me by your name. Okay, yeah, did you like that?
It made me interested in Italy? Okay, I will say that.
(50:47):
Uh did you suck a apercot when you were over there? No?
But I did in Northbridge? Uh? All right, that and
that does it. With that, we will leave you. Uh
that was our seventeen h all we got left nineteen.
(51:10):
Uh what are we going to find out about? Hey?
What the heck guy was that? Uh so? Yeah, well,
well we'll talk to you tomorrow, maybe maybe sometime, not
tomorrow if it's the weekend, I don't know a day
it we'll definitely see in the funny pages. Yeah, check
it in. Bye.
Hello the Internet, and welcome to this very special episode
of jur Daily Zeitgeights, product of I Heart Radio. This
is a podcast where we take a deep dive into
America's share consciousness and say, officially, off the top, fuck
the Koch Brothers, Fuck Fox News. Welcome, especially in today's
(00:21):
episode because it's sometime after Christmas two thousand, nineteen, uh,
and we're looking back at the year's sixteen and seventeen.
Uh some pretty pretty remarkable years, this duo of years.
Really wow, quirkers, it's really the fucking I mean, it's
the beginning of the end. Yeah. Well, my name is
(00:43):
Jack O'Brien ak pottoes O'Brien in honor of the fact
that this is also the Daily Zeitgeist came into existence
is when we first started doing a game. Uh. And
that was my first a K. And I'm thrilled to
be joined as always by my co host, Mr Miles
and my original a K a k A your boy Kusama.
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Yeah y'all don't know about her art yet? Come on, guys,
how do you not know yet? Uh? For those who
don't know, you know those big giant pumpkins with the
spots on it. Oh, hell. Yeah. Uh, well, let's let's
get right into the year two thousand sixteen. Obviously, this
year kind of split in two. Uh as I think
(01:31):
for a lot of people, Uh, they did not see
that election coming. So there was the previous part prior
to the two thousand sixteen election. There was January two November,
there's January November. You're saying, so November is where the
year was split. Yesh. Yeah. There's a feeling that there's
(01:53):
like sort of a anger and smug superiority felt by
both sides leading in at the election, and then the election,
and the sudden cultural realization that, uh, hey, nobody knows
anything in the media. We live in two separate realities
or yeah, many many separate realities. We've been ignoring the
(02:18):
ship out of a whole bunch of them. Uh, there's
the realization that Donald Trump is going to be our
president for the next four years. All the racism that
have been boiling up that we've been seeing and police
shooting videos, and that people of color had been telling, uh,
(02:38):
those of us who are not people of color about
for years. Uh that you know, we believed, but we didn't.
It hadn't really come to our doorstep to the to
the point that yeah, and then and then November rolled around,
and suddenly it was extremely real to them, and it
(03:00):
was the only reality that mattered for a lot of
liberal white people who have spent their time refreshing the
New York Times palometer or whatever the funk they called that,
it was like they woke up in a new world.
The morning after the election. Yeah, I hate to say,
we told you so. I know, people of color and
Trump supporters were like, yo, welcome, welcome, motherfucker, come on down.
(03:24):
I mean I think too. Also with Obama in office,
it really a lot of people just kept their ship
inside their racism. So we'll get to the movie Get
Out in two thousand and seventeen. But you know that
that line, I would have voted Obama third term if
I could have that. That is I think a lot
of white people who were just patting themselves on the back,
(03:44):
just being like, we did it, we did it, We're good.
Now everything's like the media we consume. Yeah, but let's
let's get into what just the general guest stalt the
generals like guyst of the time with the movies of
the year two thousand sixteen. Uh, it was, So I'm
(04:06):
just gonna read them off in the order that Google
gives them to me. La La Land number one for me,
they think I am a a douche bag. That's that's
what Google told you. Yeah, Google is like, hey, straighten
out your Fedora La La Land is your top movie
of the year two thousand and sixteen. You didn't you
take piano lessons right after that movie? Yeah, because I like,
(04:27):
I don't know, there's something about when when Ryan Gosling
invented jazz in that movie? Really uh yeah, I wonder
how many people legit, not that they thought invented jazz,
but we're like, man, the music in there was really cool.
I'm gonna I think I'm gonna listen to that. I'll
(04:49):
be interested to see what this movie's legacy is like
twenty years down the line, because it's there was such
a backlash. I think deserved deserved backlash a little bit.
It that like some people are just way too into it,
and then people were like, yo, this movie, like this
main character, there's just a lot of ship that's whack
about this movie. I think it also encapsulates how a
(05:11):
lot of like white people were like taking in reality
right of all the movies you could have got behind.
You're like, la la la, what about sucking moonlight? Right? Yeah?
Like no, no, no, no no no. Some Moonlight is like
happy Dance Dance, Happy Dance Dance. Yeah. I don't want
to hear about what it's like to be all come
on to say that white people were living in La
(05:31):
la land before the two thousand and sixteen election might
be two on the nose, but I'm gonna go ahead
and say it. Doctor Strange is my second movie. I
never even saw that ship. I saw part of it
on the plane just to see what's her face? Be
an Asian person? Uh, Tilda Swinton was like the ancient
(05:53):
one or something incient One. They were like, nah, the
the ancient one, who is a martial arts expert should
not be a person of Asian descent. That should be
should be Swinton, who, honestly, I think she's from her
own planet, her own type of human. Yeah. She got
a DNA test and it was like, you are the
(06:16):
ancient one, Tilda Swinton. Zootopia is my top five from Google.
They're just like, can you do the same naming? Yeah, yeah,
just do goog I just do movies. Two thousands sixteen,
and that's what it gives sixteen. My first one is Zootopia,
Damn Son, and my second one is La La Land. Okay, okay,
(06:39):
what's number three? This is how so my so my
first is La La Land, my second is Moonlight, my
third is Utopia, and I get Manchester by the Sea
because I'm a sad boy. It's I didn't get Doctor
Strange so much later arrived. I didn't either on this time, like,
I don't know how these localized results were right, but
I got a rival. On the top five. I get
Deadpool is up there? Uh Captain America Civil War? Which
(07:03):
makes sense? What was hell or high Water? Is that
anywhere for you? That was the bank heist one? Yeah,
I watched it. I like that. I didn't like. I didn't. Uh.
I mean the fact that I even sat down put
the DVD in means that I was invested in seeing
it like anything. Because most of the time I don't
(07:25):
go to the movies a lot. I'll I just watched screeners,
so that's when it gets very selective. But I did
watch that because my mom was like, I like it. Yeah,
I'm like, okay, well, all y'all y'all take that to
the bank. Mohanna is way up there for me. Uh
not where it's not. It's not Zuotopia level, but it's uh,
you know, to find the zeitgeist apparently that year. Remember
(07:45):
when we started the show and I was like, man,
Mohanna is a big deal for these kids. Yeah, where'd
that go? I think it's still there. I just think
it's been you know, Frozen is its. I was claiming
Mohanna was the new Frozen because like all kids under
the age of ten knew all the words to Mohana.
But uh, turns out Frozen is the new Frozen because
(08:08):
I can't even say I know that Frozen is let
it go. I can't off instinctively say what's the mahana?
Yeah you need a song? Yeah? Um what for you?
Of these movies? Did you actually like person? Because I
know we're saying that's number one for me for people
who are confused. That's what Google is serving us as
a result, not our rankings. I mean Moonlight I think
(08:28):
is actually I'm gonna go La La Land. Moonlight was incredible.
I mean that's just like a towering piece of art. Yeah.
I would probably go with Finding Dory finding just good
finding Dory, and I mean it speaks to the collective
amnesia of our culture. Thank you, That's exactly that. And
(08:53):
then and then in second Suicide Squad, right, yo, Suicide
Squad came out this year. Also Batman Verse Superman. What
were they thinking? What what a run Man from from
the d C universe? Yeah? What did The Accountant? What's
that's Ben Affleck. That's Ben Affleck. That movie completely disappeared.
So some movies that completely disappeared from the national consciousness.
(09:16):
I mean, Sully didn't completely disappear, because that story is
still a big deal. But like I feel like that
nobody's quoting that, nobody's quoting Sully. Nobody's saying I'm the
Sully now. Uh, I mean they should be. Yeah, but
uh yeah, I would say the The Accountant is one
of those movies that just completely disappeared. The BFG, the
(09:37):
Big fucking Giant. Uh, Jason Bourne, I forgot there was
a new born movie, Star Trek Beyond Out. Yeah, there
was a Star Trek movie and it was a flop.
I remember people were like, like a Chris Pine Star
Trek movie, not that one. Yeah, there was a Crisp
Pine Star Trek movie that I think it was the third. Uh.
Warcraft is one of those movies I think we've talked
(10:00):
out before. Was a big hit overseas, this big deal overseas,
and nobody watched it here I went at the time.
I was just starting to work at Conde Nast and
we did a like a like a junket for Warcraft,
And there were some interactions between the cast members that
were so there was something going on between those cast members.
(10:20):
They didn't like each other, they didn't like each other
or there were a lot of her It was weird,
like it wasn't like anything else where people were just
talking about their film. There was a lot of passive
aggressive energy being okay, and then people like can you
got this stuff out? Only to be only to be
revived on a podcast years later. Uh. There was a
new Born movie that I think has completely disappeared from
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people's memory. Uh, sing completely. I remember the posters. Yeah,
that's that's a big one with kids. What singh Street?
Sing Street is from the dude who made once I
think okay or maybe did you watch Sausage Party? No?
I did good. No. I like the idea that what
(11:04):
wasn't there like something where you people only had access
to the reality that their food was alive when they
were high or something like that. Could I honestly, the
second I realized like it was just like a weird
adult thing with like lame Dick jokes, I was like,
all right, I'm gonna mosey on out. Um. So, I
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don't know, those are the movies of the year. Nothing
really jumps out to me other than Moonlight, Like nothing
is like a lasting thing that people are gonna be
talking about decades from now. Maybe Finding Dory Finding Door
is a great sequel. I loved this out that I
liked that before I even had kids, and then I
just watched it with my son recently, and it was
(11:49):
a blast. Uh in terms of like kind of what
people were searching, what was trending that year? Uh, Pokemon
go number one, man two above Donald Trump in your face.
I remember when like there were videos of people like
running through Central Park on just the strength of rumors
(12:10):
certain creatures being there. I'm like, Yo, what the funk
are y'all doing? And then I remember being at Comic
Con that year, nobody was like the fucking bank. Cellular
bandwidth was diminished from all these people just pokemon it up. Yeah.
I I took exactly one walk through a city with
somebody who was like doing the Pokemon thing. I was like,
(12:31):
I can't, I can't be friends with people. Well, I
think it's one of those things like we I think,
I think it's safe to say I can speak for
you that we both don't really funk with Pokemon in that,
like we don't know anything about it aside from maybe
a couple of characters. And then they like that I
didn't play the game Boy game, and I feel like
for those people who really who who funk with the universe?
(12:53):
It was fine, but also like trying to get me outside? No,
how about that? How about that? Uh? There were um
so then there was the election. Uh that I'm just
I I like looking back at the time magazine like
where they were at with this. At the end of
(13:14):
it was the quote October surprises that ultimately came to
dominate the story of the election. Trump's came in the
form of a leaked access Hollywood tape, and Hillary Clinton's
came when FBI Director James Comey went to Congress updating
the status of the investigation. And it never quite disappeared.
(13:35):
Uh so I'm interesting. Yeah, that's one way. I think
that's like the literally like the November ninth, take what happened,
and they're like, wait, what else there? What were the
other dimension what were the other forces at work? Because
we're still looking at this election through like the lens
of every other sort of traditional election for lack of
(13:58):
a better term. Yeah, both story lines exemplify the dark
clouds that hovered over each candidate throughout the race. So
they were still covering Hillary Clinton's emails like it was
an equivalent scandal to anything that's gone on with tront
To Maggie Haberman. Now Americans are buckling up for the
political roller coaster ride that's likely to last for the
next four years. Hey said, what way to mitigate? I know,
(14:23):
and just like a roller coaster ride, what a blast?
What a blast? And I think the person in front
of me vomited. And we're doing a revolution right now.
It's getting in my face. Yeah, people's earrings are falling off.
Somebody lost their lucky hat and then they went to
retrieve their lucky hat underneath the roller coaster and got beheaded.
That's actually something I do remember some guy going underneath
(14:45):
and getting I think that's the only roller coaster metaphor
that we could use for that year. That would Yeah,
I think that was I think that was like the nineties.
I think that was when we were kids. Was that
like going to those urban legends? No, but it's not
in Yeah, I've forget what the park was, but it
definitely happened. I remember it's probably like over here at
six Flags Magic Mountain when Goliath came out, like I
(15:07):
think a dude had a heart attack from the first drop. Yeah,
so that's kind of fitting one of those roller coaster rides.
One guy at a heart attack, the other guy got
beheaded trying to retrieve his lucky hat. Uh, and my
mom lust her earring Welcome to Flags Tragic Mountain. Uh.
They do mention the Russia hacking. Uh. That's their number
(15:29):
two story of the year, the hacking of the Democratic
National Committee. But they say, but it increasingly became clear
that the larger story was that the hack revealed America's
vulnerability is to countries like Russia. So it was just
their bigger story is that this can happen at all.
(15:52):
But I mean it was a opposition military targeting some
old guys Gmail. It's not like, yeah, of course they
can do that. That's not the larger story. The larger
story is that we've lowered the discourse to the point
that like candidates can just accept the aid of a
(16:14):
foreign hostile power, and like people are just like but
it's just like everybody's doing everything in their power to
not look at that because they got to both sides
the ship. Or it's just like the surprise that like,
you know, not that the media would be that this honest,
but be like, whoa the thing that we do happen
to us? Right, yeah, yeah, wow, yeah, that's been happening.
(16:38):
That's right. We like to do this ship all the time.
We didn't think anyone would have the call to do
it right back. I mean like looking at let's say,
because it's gonna happen Russia hacks whoever the Democratic candidates
email is or there uh you know, somebody on their
staff's email and leaks the documents, Like the media is
(17:00):
still going to print that ship, right like whatever the
leaks are, Yeah, they're still gonna do what they did
with Hillary's emails, where they were like John Podesta said
this and like yeah, I'm sure I'm sure they're going
to do that. Um so, I mean, nothing's changed like that.
That's the only thing they could change is if the
media was like and we agree to never like print
(17:22):
hacked material. We agree to leave an impression based ad
revenue model if that dictates how we present stories. But yeah,
the thing of this right up suggests that we are
a national front. Who was behind the net Russian national front?
Like ite'ts written from like a Cold War ethos, Like
this is the new space race. It's all about hacking.
(17:45):
We gotta catch up with our hacking. Uh, we're gonna
take a quick break. We'll be back with a little
more and then get into which was a fucking quarker
of a year. M And we're back and all right.
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Twenty sixteen also like no slouch in terms of just
huge horrifying events U breggsit happened. There was a bunch
of terror attacks around the world. Um, there was the
Istanbul airport, the guy who drove a truck through a
crowd celebrating bestial Day and niece. Uh, twelve people died
(18:34):
when a hijacked truck slammed into a popular Christmas market
in Berlin. Uh. And then there was the Pulse nightclub shooting,
which was amid Pride celebrations. Uh, it was the worst
mass shooting in modern US history un next year until
the next year exactly. But yeah, that and then everybody
(18:56):
died and then yeah, Prince David Bowie, Alan Rickman and
Gene Wilder, Muhammad Ali, I mean, fuck, please put some
respect on Justice Antonin Scalia's name too. And so this
was right when Mitch McConnell started with his bullshit. Um yeah,
but the Conservatives lost theirs too, Scalia and Nancy Reagan.
(19:19):
Scalia was what was he like some hunting lodge like
out in the probably being like had a prostitute on
top of him. Who knows we're under him when he died. Uh,
that's but that's just me speculating allegedly allegedly almost definitely, Yeah,
I mean yeah, that really that his death really kind
(19:41):
of triggers this really dark shift. That's like, I mean,
McConnell was fucking around since time immemorial, but like to
completely be like I'm not going to confirm a Supreme
Court justice. It's like, oh, so the rules no longer applied,
Like it's not this is the beginning of the publicans
just not even paying any attention to any norms. Yeah,
(20:04):
this is the beginning of the what're gonna do about it? Yeah?
Because yeah, what what what are you going to do?
I think we've talked about the quote before that like
people political insights are people who are experts on politics
and Washington talk about the fact that it's rules and
laws and norms, and so if you just decide, fuck
(20:26):
the norms, fuck all the things that we agreed we do, Uh,
fuck you sue me. In other words, you're gonna be
you can be able to get away with some ship. Yeah.
And I think at the end of it, we were saying, like,
I guess we need to actually start like articulating these
common sense things into straight up laws. And because there's
(20:47):
just too much latitude for people to you know, funk around,
the opioid crisis started really spiraling out of control, kind
of went viral with a bunch of pictures of people
odeing in public, and yeah, it was it was fucked up.
There's the police officer ambushes in Dallas and Baton Rouge.
(21:09):
But also, you know, police officers shooting people of color
continued unabated, uh, And there was the sexual assault sentencing outrage,
which kind of foreshadowed what was to come in with
then too movement, because this was the year that Brock Turner,
(21:32):
a good young man with a bright future, was sentenced
to just six months in jail when he was caught
based salting an unconscious person behind a dumpster. Um. So, hey, man,
look this is again we got all kinds, We got
many different justice systems to different legal systems for different
(21:52):
people of different classes. Yeah, and it's just you know,
the it was totally depend it on his race, the
race of the judge, and uh bullshit. All right, let's
get into let's go right into the stories because it's
there's kind of a through line from and then we
(22:13):
can talk about movies. But uh so, obviously Trump was
sworn in immediately started talking shipped to North Korea. This
was before he decided to make nice, when it was
just tightening of the screw slowly, one tweeter at a time.
I was horrified. Yeah, everybody thought we were gonna fucking die.
(22:34):
Like it was the most worried people had been about
nuclear weapon killing a whole city full of Americans since
uh since the Cold War. There all maps of like
where their nukes could hit the US technically. Yeah, a
lot of Los Angeles on there, Yeah, I do, people
like well, his dad really liked Hollywood, right, But that's
(22:55):
why he would have made it. Um yeah, Docca because
Trump and Sessions began openly talking immediately about their white
supremacist agenda. Hurricane Maria. This was also a year of
just massive, horrifying hurricanes, Hurricane Maria, which devastated Puerto Rico,
(23:15):
and yeah, it really brought out the man like watching
them the president, his response to that show, like God
damn it. I mean, yeah, I think we're the whole time,
It's like, God, what the fund is this? Ye're gonna
look like And every every month that got like weirder
and weirder. And then the Maria ship with him just
completely trying to like shame that people of Puerto Rico
(23:37):
acting like they're not Americans was so like on, like
the racism was so transparent on its face that he
was who he thought he was. I mean there was
I mean, yeah, we we thought who he said he was.
Hurricane Harvey happened just parked over Houston and uh, you know,
for like a week and just fucking flooded the ship
(23:57):
out of that city. But let's talk about this one
week long stretch that I didn't realize all these things
happened in like five days. The Las Vegas shooting happened
on the night of October first, two thousand seventeen, a
shoot her open fire on a crowd of concert goers.
One thing that I hadn't there, that my memory hadn't
(24:18):
quite gotten about that is I mean, so this was
sort of the nightmare scenario for anyone who worries about
guns and just how readily accessible they are and how
easy it is for somebody to build up an arsenal.
Is that you know, the person was shooting from a
great distance, so it's very difficult to locate. He was
(24:39):
shooting with automatic weapons into a crowd. So I mean,
just the worst case scenario in every respect. But I
hadn't I thought that they like kind of immediately figured
out where he was and like came for him. But
they found him dead in his room an hour after
the shooting, Like they hadn't gotten to him while he
(24:59):
was tolive. Like I knew that I thought he had
shot himself as they were storming his room, but it
was an hour. Yeah, it was an hour later. Like
so that's that's how like powerful these weapons are. That
like he was just often the distance somewhere and nobody
could like figure out where he was coming from for
an hour. Uh, And yeah, I remember the conspiracy theories
(25:22):
were right, Yeah, because I mean it's also the perfect
storm and that he we still don't have a motive,
like we do we know that he was wanting to
do this, just he had researched different locations where there
was going to be a crowd. He had even rented
hotel rooms like above Lallapaluza above another concert in in
(25:49):
Chicago and then also and I had rented and stayed
in a hotel room in Vegas for a period but
didn't carry out the attack and then just actually did.
But he he had been googling terms from mid September
such as SWAT weapons ballistics chart three O eight, swat
(26:10):
Las Vegas and do police use explosives? So like he
it was super premeditated. Who the funk knows, like what
infected this guy's soul and made him just decide to
do this, But that makes it a perfect storm for
conspiracy theorists. I mean the false flagship that came out
(26:33):
like immediately was like just really awful, and especially considering
like the amount of like almost people were killed, hundreds
were injured. So on the second of October, and obviously
this is an equivalent, but it's just uh kind of
a bombshell. Tom Petty died of a drug overdose. Uh.
(26:56):
Tom Petty was like in his sixties. Uh. And again,
like he somebody said that they like he was always
a like basically a sober musician throughout like his heyday,
Like he didn't like get he didn't use drugs, he
didn't drink that much. And then like once he hit forty,
he was like, I'll give this a try, and like
(27:18):
that's when it started, like really strange sort of progression.
But this was just, you know, he died of a
fentanyl overdose, which is what we found out Prince died
of in Uh. So you know it was that. And
apparently like almost a third of the overdose deaths from
(27:38):
opioids in America were caused by fentanyl. Yeah. And then
ten five, the New York Times publishes the first story
detailing decades of sexual harassment and assault allegations against Harvey Weinstein.
So that's a I know, so this was and then
(27:59):
we started Zeitgeist. The next week, October nine, the Second
Rate podcast, Gail z Guess begins, I mean and then answered,
I saw this neooze breaking, and I shot a blunt
signal into the sky at the moon. Miles saw it
came away from Canada. Yeah, I have to go. My
(28:21):
planet needs me. Uh. And then ten ten the New
Yorker Story breaks, running Pharaoh's story. Uh. And then ten fifteen,
Melissa Milano writes, if you've been sexually harassed or assaulted,
rape me too, as a reply to this tweet and
kind of mainstreamed a thing that had been started many
years ago. But there there were like a lot of
(28:41):
people I had missed who had been assaulted by Weinstein,
like Lena Hetty from from Thrones, Lauren Holly from Dumb
and Dumber, like all these people who he just like
cut the swath of fucking horror through, like all these
I remember the repeated Inongo right up because she had
(29:02):
talked about how he was drinking like diet coke and vodka. Yeah,
And I was like, what if bombo Yeah? Uh, but yeah,
he just terrifying ship. And I think that look at
him now, because all this subtrofusion, fake sympathy props he's using. Look,
I'm in a hospital. Help me. What would a guy?
(29:24):
Would an old guy who had to go to the
hospital be a just a predator? Yeah, I mean this
is clearly like he got a some pr advice, because
just a couple of months ago, I remember seeing pictures
of them walking into the courtroom and just looking like
I think he was like laughing. Just put him under
the jill, seriously, all right, we're gonna take a quick
(29:48):
break and we'll be back with more news and the
movies of the year. And we're back, And so Matt
Lauer broke December one. I thought Matt Lauer was like
(30:13):
a year later. I didn't realize it was like just
a month later. I think maybe it felt because we
had moved offices from October. Then by December we were
in the new spot when it was just so much
news in that period, I mean it was, well, that's
what we had, like when the Manghazi segment was non stop. Yeah,
that really did feel like it. Yeah, I guess because
(30:36):
the news was so fucking dense. It felt like a
year's worth of news had happened in one month. Which
I mean that's what when people talk about how they
like remember things, remember traumatic things happening in slow motion,
it's not that the at the time you were experiencing
them in slow motion. It's that your memory starts like
(30:56):
recording more and so it's like you have more things too,
and like your memories like in four case, yeah you
went from and it's almost like it's, you know, way
to record something in slow motion. You start moving the
film through the projector faster. Uh so, oh, little cinematography,
(31:16):
little cinematography. But I think, I mean one of the
major stories that we can't overlook from that the year
seventeen that we're still feeling the effects of here in
the studio is the fidget spinner. Uh it was big.
I mean honestly it was. It was cracking before you know,
around twenty sixteen too. But I love the fidget spinner.
(31:38):
I have the Google I have a chart in the
dock of the Google search popularity of fidget spinners in
early seventeen, And it was like in May it just
shot up and was like sky through the month of
May June, and then by July it was like backed
down to just not being really anything. It was, Man,
(31:59):
I I still stand the fidget spinner. I mean our
first merch of this show was a fidget spinner. Yeah yeah,
it was coming around the house right in front of you.
There's some of my son's favorite toys. I do have
one right in front of me. Yeah yeah, I mean
when he when he thinks to look at it, it's
yeah yeah yeah. He like ship that spins. It's fun.
(32:22):
Yeah it is. I mean I know a lot of
people were like it helps with a d h D.
I think it was just our nation needed some soothing distraction,
like something soothing to look at. Yeah, like okay, every
can I just spin? How about a nice little spinny? Yeah,
like something that was easy. There wasn't resistance. It was
just like if you have if you have like busy
hands though too, like it's perfect. Like because for me,
(32:45):
like in high school or college, I'm always doing ship
with my pen. So having like a fidget spinner that's
sound of the spinner, sound of the spinner, yeah, helped helped. No,
I don't. I don't have any I wish I had
trick skills like transferring from finger to finger. I wish
you did too, Man, did you look you know it's
we're all disappointing, really sad. Santa really fucked me over
(33:06):
for me the skills to be a competitive spin boy.
Um solar eclipse that was another big story that yeah
kind of man, we really got the shitty version of
that eclipse though down here, like obviously because we weren't
in the direct path of the eclipse, we got like
the you know, the target version when people up in Oregon,
(33:28):
we're getting like the full blown like the ship that
made the ancient people be like and then the demon game.
Can I be straight with you though? Yeah? Go ahead?
Can yeah? Go ahead? Are you sure because this is
a safe space. Yeah. I never saw a single image
of the solar eclipse that impressed me at all. Holy shit,
yeah you wait, so you just go yeah, that's how
(33:54):
I felt, man like, wait, based on what the what
the actual image was or the idea of are so
the celestial bodies? Have you ever tried to take a
picture of a cool looking moon, like, yeah, the moon
is in the sky and it looks cool, as I
did once And I remember my dad, who was a photographers, like,
it's not gonna look it's an optical illusion, Pasually when
(34:15):
it looks big. I remember, like I think back in twelve.
I don't know why it's then, because I felt like
Facebook was like, yo, the moon's so big right now,
and everyone was fresh like putting up whack as regular
sized moon photos, Like what the fun because right like
the moon is always the same size and the sky
as just like what it's near that makes it look bigger. Waits,
(34:35):
but you you would say that you could stand. You
saw the footage of people like in the people that
were like in the optimal path, and we don't think
that that even you know, but this sequence to like
be out during the day, it suddenly go to like
just nearly nighttime level darkness. I guess the coolest shit
I saw were the people who were just filming around
(34:58):
them and it was like it went a dusk, but
it was still I don't know, it was fine. It
was fine. I'm just saying suppressive more than anything, a
lesson that you can't grab anything that's in the sky,
like it's not Grandma Ball. So you just weren't people's
eclipse flex posts and I was like, oh man, this
is gonna be an event. We're going to see all
(35:20):
these cool different like well that one photo that was
like taken by like proper scientific, like real good imagery
of it. That ship looked like the Ring, right, Yeah,
and that's one for me. It wasn't that. I wasn't impressed.
I'm just like, I don't mess with demonic stuff. I'm Japanese.
I know the power of the Ring or dingu and
you know what, I'm not gonna check me with that one.
(35:40):
The best the best picture of that is still Trump
looking directly into it, straight into the fucking Rauh. We
were on a balcony asking other people with like proper
eclipse I wear because we were trying to be like
what if we just like kind of peak real quick
and they're like, please don't do that. Here look through
here and are we work that? Remember that that version
(36:02):
was definitely not impressive. That that version of when we
were l a Verton know, the l A version of
the eclipse that suck. This is this is dumb as fuck.
It was dope to like it was a cool experience
to have like just everybody coming out of there like
offices at the same time. Like that reminded me of
like my grandma used to tell me about like the
(36:23):
day uh Pearl Harbor was bombed the like people would.
People were all like just walking out of their house
and walking out of buildings just to like see other people.
Basically we're seeing this, right, Yeah, that was the closest
we got. Uh but I did see a lot of
people trying to like do the selfie in front of
the thing just wasn't working. Yeah, um if it burnt
(36:46):
out people's camera, like you also can't aim your ship
at the Also, I guess I should say that there's
just a steady drumbeat of the top trending news stories
in all these years. Is that whatever the latest iPhone
is so go year, what was like the iPhone eight
or something. I just don't put it here because that's
just some ship that we care about at the time.
(37:06):
But it's not it doesn't have any bearing on it's
just they slowly get better, slowly, but surely they do.
And uh yeah, I'm trying to think of anything else
that was interesting. And that iPhone eight, you know, I
remember one of my co workers got it and they
were really proud of themselves today. And then ye uh
so seventeen good Year from movies. I think both of
(37:30):
these actually pretty decent years from get out came out
in we suddenly realized the underrated dude from Key and
Peel was actually like one of our great directors. Uh
Dunkirk came out, Christopher Nolan back on top Wonder Woman, Ladybird.
(37:50):
This is the order it gave me, although it changes
from Google to Google apparently. Uh. Logan Thor ragnar Rock
Star Wars, the last Jedi man that has been WHOA
just very iconic for some people. And Laura shout out
to Laura during in that one when she like nine
(38:10):
elevens that ship straight up into the fleet. I was
like that boy, that was a scene. I always thought like,
what would happen if you pulled that ship? And then yeah,
Logan was I was surprised by Logan. I wasn't really
going to watch it and I saw it. That little
girl in that movie is fucking an amazing actor. Yeah,
(38:31):
has she been anything since? She's about to be like
in some really some new show. She was so yeah,
and I think her like I saw her her audition
the tape. The tape of her audition is really really impressive.
She like had that feral energy girl vibe from from
(38:52):
that Bary episode. Oh yeah, unstoppable. Oh she's in her
dark material. His dark material got it thora. Ragnarok came
out very good. Uh, the Shape of Water, I feel
like the Shape of Water. I don't know, what do
you think? You think that movie is iconic, You think
it stands the test of time? That was best picture
(39:14):
that you're betture? I I think get Out. I think
get Out as for sure, if we were giving the
Oscar out today, it would have to be get Out,
it would be get At. Yeah, because I mean, like
the Shape of Water, nobody even saw that. But again,
look you see it again. Maybe it was like, look,
Moo gave Moonlight the Best Picture last year. I think
(39:36):
that's what it'll shock the world if we started saying
that black filmmakers are going to have a run of
winning Best Pictures. But yeah, I don't like we're supposed
to win that year, because I remember Shape of Water
was like last second they were like, oh yeah, people
thought get Out. How to chance it was nominated? It
did win for Best Screenplay, right, Yeah, I think so,
But I think with I don't know, I was a
(39:57):
little bit surprised that it and I don't I'm I'm
really trying to put myself back in that time when like,
what the fucking deal was? Aside from like, yo, that
dude's dick opens up from a flap and curls out
like a little arm. The sex Fish. Yeah, that was
really the only thing I really I'm still holding onto.
Call Me by Your Name came out that year, The
Florida Project, which I keep hearing is great Spider Man Homecoming.
(40:21):
They started making good Spider Man's again after earlys of
no goodness. Guardians of the Galaxy Volume two, which I
think kind of was a huge hit that then completely disappeared.
Did you see disaster artists? I didn't see it. I did.
It was solid, but also completely disappeared. Three billboards outside Eving.
(40:43):
That was that everybody thought was going to be this
is about race, this could work. Yeah that was no
good Uh, but I do like that filmmaker though. I
love a fucking what's it called in Bruges. People should
check that out if they haven't. Colin Farrell gives a
(41:04):
great performance. I stand a Colin Farrell. Uh. Coco came
out that year. That was Martin McDonough. Martin McDonnell. It
took me a second ago. Yeah. It's also a big
Walkman fan. So I would always see him at Walkman show.
Really yeah, alright, go ahead. Yeah, Coco was really good too.
That was one. See I didn't watch Mohanna. I didn't
watch the other one. Coco great. I really like Cocoa.
(41:26):
Maybe I should watch Mohanna because I feel like that
as a child that would have resonated with me the most.
Is like a vaguely brown Asian child. Of the movies,
I would say Coco is probably the best of of Morianna.
I really enjoyed Coco funk. I was like this is
I like this? Yeah? I was really and this is
one of the first Pixar films I had seen in
(41:48):
a while too. Um but I think I was like,
you know what, if they're gonna they're gonna be out
here doing doing stories about different cultures and check this
one out. John Wick two came out did better than
john Wick one, leading people to suspect this John Wick
thing might be here, might have some might have some legs. Huh.
American made Justice League completely disappeared from the consciousness. Yeah,
(42:13):
the logo Batman movie did well, but I don't really
logo Batman was that it's the logo. Yeah, it was
from the Logo Network. Yeah, yeah, yeah, was that good.
That's pretty interesting. Um so, oh it came out this year.
That was like horror movie. And then remember when everyone
was vegan after oak Ja. Yeah, I'm never eating meat man,
(42:36):
never again. Then look at look at you. Now you
go back to people who told you they were done
eating meat after seeing OAKA, and tell me how many
people still have committed to meet. Tough year for Tom
Cruise man, because this is also the Mummy year when
he came out with that Mummy he was he became
the Mummy. He becomes the Mummy. Yeah, so they were
(42:58):
trying to start a cinematic universe where in Tom Cruise
was a superhero mummy like he was the Mummy. He
because at the end spoiler alert, he becomes the Mummy
spoiler alerts that nobody saw in the first place them. Yeah,
(43:20):
and then that was gonna be like because when't they're
like a Wolfman Benicio del Toro movie that nobody saw.
They were attempting to do all those universal monsters, universal monsters.
They were gonna be like the next big thing. All
the Money in the World was a movie that I
remember seeing a lot of previews. Four I thought it
was gonna be like that years you know, Award contender
(43:44):
feel Good. I don't know what do you mean, like
after Kevin Spacey was pulled out of it. I think
I saw the I think it original. Oh yeah, so
this is right when Kevin Spacey was getting disappeared from Hollywood,
And I think was it this Winter two that he
dropped that bizarre that took like a year for him
(44:06):
to drop. But I could, like a lot of these things,
I don't, uh, like my timing is all fucked up
on Oh yeah, And who could forget iconic Asian American
actress Scarlett Johansson and the show that was when she
started her run as America's problematic Bay Transformers The Last Night.
(44:27):
I can't believe a Transformers movie came out that year.
Why that just seems like the Transformers movies where like
they were done with him. Yeah, we're like most people
were lizing years ago. We're like, we're doing this well.
I suspect that was one that was made for China,
maybe because that was one that had like wild product placement.
Were like companies like no one in America had ever
(44:48):
seen or known. Oh yeah, we covered this on dailies,
I guys, because it was just Jam McNabb, one of
our writers. We paid him to go see that movie
having to do it ourselves. Yeah, I want to see.
Let's see what kind of what kind of box office? Dude?
Is six five million in America? No? Just in general?
(45:09):
Or look at the breakout though, because I bet it
was like a very small portion was American. No, No,
that's what I mean, Like, I think, even despite it
being profitable, it could only have been a sliver of
the market. The Beauty and the Beast reboots when they started,
did you watch that doing the live the live actioning.
I've seen it. Oh you've heard I've seen it on TV.
(45:33):
I did not go see it. It is this the
one with the Homegirl from Harry Potter in it? Yes, yes, Uh,
your majesty, I forget Emma Watson. Yes, right there we go. Okay,
(45:54):
see look at us, Look at us. Between the two
of us, we know everything. Good Time him out that year.
I highly recommend you'll check that out if you like
uncut gems. Good Time? Which one was a good Time?
Good Time is the Robert Pattinson movie I keep talking about.
I saw it last weekend and then you really Yeah,
you find the guys who make the Safty Brothers, who
(46:16):
made Uncut Gems. Damn m uh a year Phantom Thread.
I didn't watch that one. That was the Daniel deay
Lewis phone. Yeah, it was pretty It's worth seeing the
the performance, the character that they created as pretty pretty well,
he's just you know, it's I don't think you'll ever
I'm trying to think of a time I saw Daniel
(46:37):
Lewis perform and you're like, yeah, even if you don't
like the dialogue or the setting or the context, I'm
always in of of you know him just get going
so deep on ship. But but then then again, I'm
not watching every film. Girls Trip Dropped. That was big.
Oh yeah, uh all right, this is this one's my
(46:59):
award for completely forgotten movie. Uh like compared to what
it was at the time. Alien Covenant, Oh yeah, I
can't believe that movie came out, that came and went
that just we should, man at one point, just really
check some of these out. See if we missed anything,
you know what I mean, I hate I'd hate to
(47:21):
think that we missed out on something in Transformers The
Last Night. Yeah, all right, so that's been seventeen. Do
we miss any stories? Probably a whole ship, all right,
People like you didn't talk about Deadpool in sixteen? Okay,
Deadpool in sixteen. Yeah, Deadpool came out. That was big.
I was surprised. I was actually, I will say that
I was bracing myself for something terrible, and I'm like, yeah,
(47:45):
I mean we didn't go through all a lot of
movies in sixteen, but that was one I actually seen
and felt positive about. So yeah, that was a good one. Uh. Ten.
Clover Field Lane came out in twenty sixteen. I liked that.
I was that in the theater. Actually I did too,
And I don't know why what compelled me to it
got I think it was like wild high on rotten tomatoes, right,
(48:08):
and so everyone was like, is this like a masterpiece
and no, it was just they were giving it a
high score for what it was, right, right, you know
which it was. It did what it tried to do.
Um oh, and then we missed it did what it
tried to do. Then we missed the biggest the movie
that defined seventeen, deep Water Horizon. Oh that's right, bro,
(48:31):
that's right. You let this oil spill, bro, Come on, bro,
come on, bro knocked out there? Yeah, I fucking knocked
this oil back in the ground. Bro. Oh shit. Alright.
So like the Award for movie that I can't believe
actually happened, I think might not have maybe Fantastic Beasts,
the Harry Potter like extension. Yo, nobody isn't that to
(48:58):
do his name clue? I think again? See this is
where I'm like, I've never seen Harry Potter things, but
some names that sounds so dumb to me. It's like
nuts commander, and I'm like, what the fund is this?
And her majesty, she likes Harry Potter, and I was
annoying the funk out of her because I was like, new,
isn't it what it is? But it's something like that.
(49:20):
I I was asking. This is like one of the
first Harry Potter films I sat through, and I just
had so many questions, like if you knew what was,
if you knew the university were in, you would stop
asking where they go and how they're getting these places.
And I'm like, what it is that's a teleport? How
many people can go there? And doesn't take time? Wars
There's some issues with the metaphysics of the Harry Potter
(49:41):
Universe one also came out in twenty six. No, not
like it's just it doesn't hold together any scrutiny. Yeah,
maybe that has time travel like that, Yeah, not many
reason for the plot. Not many writers take the responsibility
of doing a time travel script and actually ranching out
what the means for other you know, parallel timelines and
(50:04):
things like that, and sort of like, yeah, and then
we'll go there and this will happen. Then they go back,
and then that happens. Not thinking they come back. And
but honestly, half the time when you're watching you're so
like in the actual narrative of it, it's hard to
be like, well, I don't know about that. Sometimes it
is so glaring that in your mind you go, oh,
I wonder what they'll do about that, and then and
then nothing. Yeah, okay, yeah, you had to get the
(50:25):
draft in. I get it. So top three movies from
these two years you said, you said, Suicide Squad, Suicide Squad, uh,
Fantastic Beasts, Fantastic Beasts, and Alien Covenant No no, no, no,
call me by your name. Okay, yeah, did you like that?
It made me interested in Italy? Okay, I will say that.
(50:47):
Uh did you suck a apercot when you were over there? No?
But I did in Northbridge? Uh? All right, that and
that does it. With that, we will leave you. Uh
that was our seventeen h all we got left nineteen.
(51:10):
Uh what are we going to find out about? Hey?
What the heck guy was that? Uh so? Yeah, well,
well we'll talk to you tomorrow, maybe maybe sometime, not
tomorrow if it's the weekend, I don't know a day
it we'll definitely see in the funny pages. Yeah, check
it in. Bye.
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