TikTok Causing Tics? Brave Director Legitimizes Conspiracies 9.7.21

In episode 983, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian You Can Tell Me Anything host Teresa Lee to discuss Gen Z developing tics from the internet, how to help women in Texas, the movie Moonfall, and more!

FOOTNOTES:

1. Help Crowdfund Teresa's Short Film!
2. Was It an Invisible Attack on U.S. Diplomats, or Something Stranger?
3. Gen Z Is Developing Unexplained Tics After Going Online, And Doctors Are Concerned
4. ‘They’re Hunting Us’: Texas Abortion Mutual Aid Fund Prepares For Effects Of New Law
5. Fuck it. Let's get nuts.
6. Abortion funds and beyond: Here are the best ways to help Texans
7. Moonfall: Exclusive Official Teaser Trailer (2022) Halle Berry, Patrick Wilson, Roland Emmerich
8. Moonfall is a disaster movie about the Moon falling
9. Moonfall Looks Like Roland Emmerich's Loudest, Dumbest Disaster Movie Yet
10. Midway: A Conversation with Director Roland Emmerich
11. What If a Large Asteroid Were to Hit the Moon?
12. LISTEN: Little Simz - Two Worlds Apart (Official Audio)

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season two oh one,
episode one of at Least Like Guys out the production
of My Heart Radio. This is a podcast where we
take it deep to have a New America's share consciousness.
It is Tuesday, September seven one. My name's Jack O'Brien.
A k drank some do today to see if I

(00:24):
still feel salt shaker of cocaine. The only thing that's trilled.
The needle tears a hole, the old familiar sting, try
to kill covid away Now my comes not worth anything

(00:48):
that is courtesy um Lex Lugi little reference and you
know what what is with this ship man? The market
is collapsed anyways? Uh that that's a reference to the
conspiracy theory that if you get the baccy and you're

(01:11):
come won't be worth as much as if you don't. Yeah,
the new crypto, new Crypto, unvaccinated Come. I'm thrilled to
be joined as always buy my co host Mr Miles
Grass host Knee the producer, She the ruler. You want
these heads, She'll give him to you. Oh Jack, he's
the boss blast on top. He's getting great views on

(01:34):
his Havannah TikTok. Miles Gray make the funny. See Miles
Gray gets the four twenty bike and here I go
eating like I know, drift on my shoes, in my back,
and I'm a virgo because we are the tv DC. Okay,
that's the Aquitine Hunger Force theme song. All that No
shout out the ink Skipio came in real quick after

(01:54):
the trending episode. He said, Oh you we'll talk about
with team how about a whole fucking a k So
love that one and also shout out to school E
D who's the original artist behind it. Yeah, yeah, well, Miles,
we are thrilled to be joined by very funny comedian
and writer who has written for Good Mythical Morning Crack
Productoris and on season three at rock Meyer In She

(02:17):
created the show comedy Quarantine, which ran over two hundred
shows in ten months and raised twenty thousand dollars from
Mutual Aid and was voted social distance comedy show number
one by Time Out l A. She co wrote the
short film I Think She Likes You, which played at
Tribeca Film Festival. She hosts the great podcast You Can

(02:38):
Tell Me Anything. Released her debut album We're Still Doing
This in April, recorded live on zoom. She's just one
of our favorite guests on t d Z. One of
your favorite guests. Please welcome the brilliant and talented Teresa Lee.
Oh my gosh, that was mortifying. Um, you reading my website.

(03:00):
But I do have an a k A. So all right,
brand here we go. Okay, alright, it's to recently a
k A mid Philadelphia. Since Tuesday in the hotel, I
potted most of my stay filling out emails, no time
for the pool, keeping my mask on because those are
the rules. When a couple of texts told me there's
a flash food started by a tornado in the Tri

(03:20):
State neighborhood, this textas a fortune log, got my feeling
all scared. I'm tired of feeling my government is way
beyond repair. Okay, wow, okay, Also, don't don't do that.
Don't be so you know, humble that you can't handle
people digging up your accomplishments. You know what I mean reading.

(03:43):
I didn't read that off your website. I didn't read
that off your website. That's just word on. I just
asked some people asked it was, and that's what I
got from them. So head out the window, he said,
he I'm the knowledge. Alright, alright, thank you so much, Jack, Welcome, Welcome.
How is phil Philadelphia? Did you see any tornadoes while

(04:06):
you were there? Did you look at the we did? Well,
this is I'm traveling with my dog and my boyfriend.
And I was supposed to do the punchline on Wednesday
night and and and then like a random bar show
and like we got these warnings on my phone that
all of our phones were like flash flow, tornado all this,
and I was like, hey, maybe we should head out soon,
and he just gave me the weirdest look, like, uh,

(04:28):
did you see the warnings? Like it's probably gonna be
like I don't think people are going out at all.
And I was like, oh, this is when you realize
comedies a disease. Because at no point was I like, oh,
maybe I should cancel. It was like, oh, then stay
didn't cancel. I better get going, And he was like,
I thought the plan was everyone stay inside. We gotta
beat that tornado traffic. Dude. We did the show. The

(04:53):
Pencheline Toe did get canceled. I did end up going
to the bar show too, because my friend, actually Blake,
who's been on the show. Blake Wexler, very funny run
that show. We did walk through quite a bit of rain.
It was fine, everyone's safe, but I did realize, like
this is not worth it. What are we doing, you know,
with our lives? But fortunately you did not get lost
in the tornado. Okay, well, we are happy to have

(05:16):
you here, safe and sound in the indoors. We are
going to get to know you a little bit better
in a moment. First, we're gonna tell our listeners a
few of the things we're talking about. We're talking about
something called functional disorders that maybe behind the TikTok tick
that people are coming down with, as well as Havannah syndrome.

(05:36):
We're gonna just ask the question what can we do
for women in Texas. We'll talk about the new trailer
for the movie Moonfall. Yeah, we got to talk about that.
Hell yeah, all of that plenty Moore. But first, TERSA,
we like to ask our guests what is something from
your search history? Well, okay, this is gonna be for

(05:56):
you know, people who know me. I say confusing things
every time it comes, so I'm maybe I don't even
have to explained this, But is the Umbilic accord, the
Tower of Babel yeah, now that's self explainatory. Okay, well
I won't get too into it. As you know, I
like to fall asleep to edibles. But this became a

(06:18):
very clear thought in my mind, and I thought, surely
this must be like I'll google it and I'll be
you know, at the very least a human on something
you know, but it's not. It's not like common knowledge.
But it just feels like it makes sense to me
because you're born speaking. Okay to be on that, don't
judge me. But I started doing this thing not on purpose,
but I like, in half asleep state, like I go

(06:39):
into baby talk. I don't like it. Okay, I've never
been a fan of adult who do baby talk, but
it's like when I'm almost like half asleep, you know,
when you're like almost drunk because you're so sleepy, you're like,
I started talking like a baby, and I was like,
I wonder if babies when they're born they speak the
universal language, and then we start learning so much that
we change what we oh. And that's why we think

(07:01):
about the Tower of Babel being this like tower that
gets knocked down, But actually, when your baby, you're connected,
and then it gets cut and then you're like cut
away from the source. So that's where that came from.
I was trying to like explain to myself and feel
better that I wasn't like deteriorating into Benjamin Budget. But Alas,

(07:22):
I think that might just be one of those weird,
unhinged Theresa thoughts because I didn't really see a community
of believers out there. Yeah, you're like good going, like
somebody else has thought this, right. I feel like the
symbology is I mean like and the Noah's Ark, the
water breaking, I mean, come on, it's all but the
but the Babbel's post flood civilization. Yeah. True, but after

(07:46):
your here, after you're out of the womb, the cord
gets cut right, right, And so that was that was
the post flood world trying to get to God by
building the Yeah, you can't go back into you can't
go back up your mom's vagina. You've got to keep
living dangerous quote. Um, Yes, I think this is something

(08:10):
very interesting And I love this kind of thinking where
you're really taking to the point where you're like, na, like,
there there could be like this universal thing that we
were all in touch with, but then the second we
enter the physical outside of the womb world, that that's
the confounding moment where God confuses us scatters us across
the world. I will say, as weird as that sounds,

(08:34):
if you look up pictures of astronauts floating in space,
they do look like they got that. Yeah, yeah, I
like how you're doing it. You're basically doing a landscape
check that someone does before they start a colt. You know,
you're like, all right, who anybody else? Oh nobody's okay,
I got this one. Then come one, come all to
my new babolography. I call yeah, I call this cult.

(08:57):
So this one is all about building people up. And
there's no Ponzi scheme which is going to fail. It's
sails could Yeah, yeah, you gotta have a scheme. Come on, Teresa.
Guys would rather spend their entire life becoming an astronaut
and float in space than fix their relationship with their mothers.
Am I right. I mean I've said it before. We're

(09:20):
just all little sperms trying to go to space. You know,
it's like, just wait, it'll happen. Don't be don't pre
ejaculate Earth. You know, you don't need to be the
precome of Earth. Yeah, Jack Bezos, who actually looks like
a sperm Bezos is the pre come of Earth. Yeah.
I can just see you now, people laying flowers at

(09:40):
your feet and you're just sitting there like in a
big throne, like not speaking, and then like above you
is a banner. He says, don't be the pre come
of Earth, and like, yeah, it's honestly, Yeah, I like
this vision you have mild you said it, not me. Yeah,
that's fine. And I'll be like, what was the other
woman who was really running Homeboy ship in Wild Wild Country?

(10:02):
There was the woman behind the scenes that was really
poland stunts and that could be our relationship too. We'll
talk off. I know you remember that because I was like,
We're like, she's the goat. Yeah, and then the other
guys just got to be a junkie and like chill
and be high the whole time. So who really won that?

(10:22):
Oh yeah, maybe we should switch that. You know what,
I'm gonna go on record and say I'm anti cult.
I'm you know, because these days everything is taken. I'm
anti told and I'm definitely pro non cult. Okay, anyway
you want to spend that, but I am pro giving
me money. I'm pro give me money and think for yourself.
So I'm yeah, I'm pro cult money. Yeah yeah yeah.

(10:44):
If on your own you want to give me money
and follow everything I say, that's on you. Yep. Babies
apparently cry in different languages, and I don't know if
it's like the second they come out or if it's
like an adaptive behavior, but like, acoustic analysis of baby
cries find that newborns whose mother speak tonal languages such

(11:07):
as Mandarin tend to produce more complex crime melodies. Swedish
newborns that have pitch accent have more sing song he cries,
and then American cries are just you know, flat and
fried and McDonald's greene. It's akin to rob zombies, dragula.

(11:30):
That makes me feel good because like I want to
be like I'm not like most babies. I'm complex. I
cry tones missed me with that sing song? You cry?
What is something you think is overrated? You know I
don't have one today. I thought about this and I'm
on this like new not new, But lately I've been
like trying to just like rechallenge in the binary in

(11:51):
my head, like things aren't good or bad, black or
white which we know. But I really actually often do
have things I'm like thoughts overrated, and this time I
couldn't think of once. I was like nothing, everything is rated,
like some things I don't like, but in my head
they're not overrated. They're just like rated poorly and that's right.
So I got none today. I'm happy with maybe overrated
for me, you know, weird meat away is just like
needing to find the bad and anything. Some things are

(12:14):
just fine, I think, so just don't come the whole show. No,
I think that I'm on a different you know, maybe
I'm speaking a different language. I'm just being on a
higher plane than y'all. For you, you know, I'm not
judging y'all was twisting my word. Look, that's how I

(12:35):
started my cult, you know, That's how That's why I
get them. What what something you think is underrated? Okay,
here's where I'm going to lose the audience because I
don't think because because I've been so aptly for so
long against crowdfunding, I just started a crowd funding companie
and I was so like ready to just hate it

(12:56):
and like be biting my teeth through the whole thing
that I like did everything to prepare myself like almost
like I'm you know, preparing for like a colposcope or something.
I'm like, it's gonna suck, but I have to do it.
But it started this week and it's been really positive experience.
So I feel bad for all the times I just
judged people for doing it. For crowdfunding, yeah, I'm crowdfunding

(13:18):
my short film that I'm directing. And I talked to
friends who have done like successful campaigns and asked him like,
tell me the truth of like what's the shittiest part,
and most of them were like, it really is just
getting over your shame. And I'm like, all right, we'll
get over the shame. And then the part that I
didn't realize that was great is being able to build
your audience before the film is out. So I'm already

(13:39):
building like followers who liked my stuff. Whereas with my
last store, we I really was like, keep it under
wrapped until it's being a festival, then announced it and
that seemed cool at the time, but then we were like, oh,
scrambling to, you know, figure out how to get people
to come see it and get it out there, and
there's I don't know, I think that my I had

(14:00):
to just squash it. And now I realized the benefits
of crowdfunding aren't just to get it funded, but it's
to find community and like actually create an audience together.
So I don't know. I like it so far. We'll
see if I actually make my goal. I might be
crying in four weeks. You'll be fine. We're gonna we'll
We'll put the information so we can all contribute obviously, Yeah,

(14:21):
thank you. That is why I'm here, and I'm just
kind of yeah, every story we talked about after this,
you might yeah, yeah, yeah. But here's the thing about film, Yeah,
did you put your put the script out there? How
much are you giving to people versus like holding withholding,
because I'd imagine that's like a balance, right. Yeah. So

(14:41):
I did take a look at other people's campaigns and
went through its. I do doing it through Student's Park,
and they do a really good job of like they
have a very inclusive filmmaking community, and they also have
like these like online videos, which at first I was like,
I don't want to watch it, but then I did,
and they're great and they give you tips on like
best practices. So I didn't I didn't put the script out,
but I kind of explained the story pretty much through.

(15:03):
It's not like there's a huge twist or anything, but
I figured, you know, a lot of people are going
to still watch it for the first time, and then
the people who want to be a part of making it,
I think they should know what it is. But yeah,
I mean it's a comedy and it has comedians in it,
so I think people know the actors like Vanessa Gonzalez,
Megan Gaily. There's a ton of great people in it.
So yeah, so people see and they know who they

(15:25):
are and they know me, so I think they're supporting
like us. But sure, yeah, very cool. Yeah, getting over
that shame though, Yeah, I can't tell you how much
my therapy goes into that ship, especially you don't. It's different.
It's all many cultures have their version, but Asian shame
is like a whole other ship. I've had to like
really navigate to be able to sort of liberate myself

(15:47):
emotionally from things that I was putting in my own
head from growing up in a very shame based culture.
But yeah, I'm glad to hear you overcame that in
order to like really embrace something that's for you and
something that's gonna it's your life. Yeah, yeah, all right,
we'll look in the show notes for a link to
uh information about Teresa's short film and how you can

(16:10):
get involved with helping her make it. We are going
to take a quick break and we'll be right back.
And we're back, Um and Miles. You brought this article

(16:31):
and vice to my attention about people who are developing Yeah,
it's sociogenic also called functional disorders. I've called them psychogenic
before because you know, that's what they're referred to in
some places because the cause tends to be located in
the brain. But it's it's basically people who are developing

(16:53):
ticks based on who they follow on TikTok who and
like people they follow on TikTok have ticks and like that.
The article also talks about people who can read an
article about someone with MS and then start developing the
symptoms of MS. So like similar kind of cognitive basis

(17:17):
for physical illnesses. And this hit at the same time
that like this is starting to become taken more seriously
in the Havana syndrome conversation. So yeah, and the whole
thing with this, like they said, like Jen's, there's a
lot of young people between like twelve and twenty five
that have developed like physical ticks. And a lot of

(17:40):
these kids may were possibly convinced that they had Tourette's
or something like that, but when they would go to
doctors who specialize in it, there like, this technically isn't Turetts.
It is a physical tick, but this wouldn't essentially be
Turette's because that would develop at a much earlier age
for someone. And these these specialists who like, as they say,
their their whole thing is about Tourette's, they've said that

(18:03):
they've seen referrals for these kind of like rapid onset
of like physical ticks. It used to just be around
one to five percent of their total cases before the pandemic.
It's now twenty to thirty percent of their cases now.
And they they the researchers they quote describe a quote
parallel pandemic of young people aged twelve to twenty five,
almost exclusively girls and women, presenting with the rapid onset

(18:26):
of complex motor and vocal tick like behaviors. They have
been striking commonalities in the phenomenology of these tick like
behaviors observed across our centers in Canada, the United States,
the UK, Germany, and Australia. Curiously, the researchers state that
for the patients they studied, in addition to experiencing pandemic
related stressors, all endorsed exposure to influencers on social media,

(18:48):
mainly TikTok with ticks or Turette syndrome. So it's like
this weird thing where they're you know a lot of
people who developed these ticks are saying, you know, people
don't believe um, or people try to like that's not
Turette's like you're faking this ship and it's like causing
a lot of distress and things like that. But these
experts are really finding this thing of like this the

(19:10):
isolation and just general stress for certain people has created
this environment in which they're now sort of like like
the content that they've been exposed to on TikTok is
feeding into that. Now. I didn't know there was a
like TikTok. But the interesting thing about that is it
I feel like there is some sort of subconscious survival

(19:32):
mechanism there, even though it doesn't make sense to us
because it sounds like would be quote unquote negative in
our sense. But if you're watching what you consider like
an influencer or socially you know, a higher up than
you are, someone you admire, and you're a teenage girl,
like one of the most important things at that time
for survival is to feel accepted. So I could totally

(19:52):
draw the line. I mean, I'm not ascientists, this would
be wrong, but my first thought is subconsciously, your body
wants to like adapt and fit in, so it would
pick that up because I remember when we were in
high school, people were staying speaking like valley girls. There
was a girl who faked her voice all through high school,
just like she It wasn't her real voice, but she
would just fake it and she would never go a
great character. But when she was younger, it wasn't like that.

(20:15):
It was just to sound like a little more like
a girly girl, like the whole thing. And it's it's
wild because it's you know, they've tried to figure out
from every level, like is it really this, but they
keep going back to the thing that they said. In
some cases, the patients specifically identified in association between these
media exposures and the onset of their symptoms. So it's

(20:36):
just this this conversation, this I don't know, this back
and forth between the psychological, emotional, and physical that are
all kind of manifesting into this other. You know, they
say like in like a mini pandemic within the pandemic. Yeah,
I guess I'm curious if it's dangerous. I mean, I
understand anything unknown is gary and we want especially if

(20:57):
it's spreading that fast. But and that definitely something abou
this is unsettling, But I'm curious why they've named it
an epidemic. Like is my understanding that there are a
lot of ticks that are harmless people, right, and some
people report ones that are way more violent and like

(21:17):
they will hit themselves or there, you know, and it
and it could be something from just some people were
just saying beans. A lot other people would just like
you know, have other things like like scrunching their nose
or other sort of physical ticks. But it ran the
entire spectrum of these sort of involuntary movements. So this
uh Havana syndrome article that kind of approaches that from

(21:38):
this perspective speaks with a lot of people who are
experts on what they call functional disorders, and there they
say that it's like not like to approach it as like, okay,
so this is expressing like some subconscious need or is
kind of counterproductive because it's really like more about approaching

(21:59):
it from the neurological perspective. And they like tell the
story of this guy who just like suddenly started having
really bad lower back pain and fever and chills, and
then like went to the hospital and like they couldn't
figure out what was wrong with him, and he like
couldn't for a year and a half, like nobody knew

(22:20):
what was wrong with him. It was like he couldn't
walk anymore. And then this expert was just like, no,
it's not like it's not a thing. It The doctors
eventually were like, it's psychogenic. It's starting your brain. And
he was like, fuck you, because that's like there's a
a stigma to it and it sounds like, oh, you're

(22:40):
making it up and that's not what's happening. What's happening.
It is something that is happening to you. You're you
have no control over it. The brain is this massive, massive,
like more massive than we can possibly comprehend machine with
like so so much happening and we only have like

(23:00):
a access to like a small little pinhole of consciousness,
and so you're not choosing anything. This is something that's
happening to you. And that that seems like basically the
scientific consensus at this point, even though like the way
that The New Yorker and some other New York Times

(23:22):
articles have covered it has been like, well, these doctors
think it's this brain injury caused by microwaves, Like anybody
who's an expert like says, like it's impossible. What you're
talking about is physically impossible. The sound waves thing. People
are still calling it ultrasound. They point out that like

(23:44):
when we use ultrasound on like a pregnant woman's belly,
like that jel is there, because if there's a single
little pocket of air in between like the ultrasound and
the thing it's trying to reach, it'll completely destroy it.
Like you can't. Ultrasound can't travel through air. Sound can't

(24:05):
travel through air in an effective way. Microwaves same deal,
Like you would basically feel like you are being cooked
in a microwave oven, not like you are have are
having a very specific targeted thing in your brain. The
other thing they point to is that with these functional disorders,
like the symptoms usually last longer than a physical injury,

(24:28):
because what what's happening is it's like getting locked into
because of like stress and fear and like social conditions.
It's getting locked into like neurological pathways, and then you
can't get out of them because it's not actually a
physical thing that you're recovering from. So, like with regards

(24:49):
to Havannah, they said, one of the reasons that they
can tell that it's a functional disorder is that the
people like if all these people had just been like
hit on the head with something very heavy, you like,
that's not what happened. But like they were saying, they
had brain trauma. If everybody had had suffered brain trauma
at the time that they felt like they had been attacked,

(25:10):
they would have healed within weeks. But instead they're still
experiencing the symptoms like years later, and so they're like,
that is a text a textbook sign that this is
a functional disorder. It's just wild that they because even
as you're saying that, like there's phrases like oh, it's
in your head right, which we come to know as
like you're making it up. But then when you said

(25:31):
it in a scientific way, like it's something happening in
the brain, We're like, yeah, that's a physical part of
your body. It's actually a pretty important part of your body. Something.
It also does other things, right, like regulate your blood
flow or whatever, Like it does other things that were
not Like I can't believe you lifted your arm. It's
all in your head. It's like, yeah, no, my my
brain told me to lift my arms so that I
can answer this question. Why is that different from like

(25:53):
it's hurting my back, except in this case, I don't
know why, Like, just because it came from my brain
doesn't mean I'm all asshole, who's doing this to waste
your time? Doctor? You know, red builds are expensive. So
I find that, like it's such a strange cognitive dissonance
of our health care system. I think people get so
scared to be like seen as like hokey or like

(26:13):
veering into like any alternative medicine, that we forget that
there are a lot of old, like old ways, ancient medicine,
ancient learnings that aren't perfect, but neither are Western medicines.
And like if we just take that line away and
just look at more truth we can bridge the gap
and figure out more things. Yeah, or in this case,
just being able to not revert to like this very

(26:36):
rigid way of diagnosing things like where you know, like
really and to your point of being open and things
like yeah, this if they're saying it, it's we should
also know that it's very quite possible that they're experiencing
something that is not known to me because I might
not have an area of expertise in this place. But
take this person's word for it rather than saying like, ah,

(26:58):
yeah whatever, you're just you're fucking trip. There's a lot
more research now about like what like the MDR and
all that stuff about how you can actually re reprocess
those patterns that don't get stored correctly. And it's a
little different than this, but it sounds similar. When you
said there's like a path kind of that gets glitchy
and you repeat a glitch over and over, it's very

(27:19):
similar to add addiction therapy is like very similar. But
so this guy Jason Lindsley, who now is like openly
like I suffered from this thing called a functional movement
disorder for a year and a half. The way that
he treated it was he met with this guy who's
an expert, or actually it's a woman in Louisville, Kentucky,

(27:40):
was an expert who basically just did these like got
him to be on board with it. It's like, no,
it's not it's not a mental thing. It's a neurological
like brain thing that like you have no control over.
They like put him through these therapies that were just
about like odor retraining, designed to overcome his resistance to

(28:04):
normal movements. Physical therapists began by asking him to take
miniscule movements of his feet, and he spent part of
each day undergoing cognitive behavioral therapy and like a week later,
he walked out of the clinic like nothing had ever
been wrong with him. And so it's yeah, and he's like, yeah,

(28:24):
that's what what it was. It was a functional disorder.
That doesn't mean like I had something wrong with me,
It's just that's the thing that happens. I do think
it's interesting that we're seeing more and more of these
functional disorders at a time when we're having more and
more you know, Theresa, like you were saying, like kind

(28:46):
of having to sublimate and like deal with stress and
like use cognitive dissonance just to get through our day
to day lives, like just having to deal with the
fact that we live on a planet that is like
dying and nobody's doing anything of out it, and you know,
it just seems like there's more internal stress that we're

(29:06):
not able to address or even express in our day
to day lives than ever before. So it kind of
makes sense to me that we would be having these things,
like kind of coming out of our own conscious and
attacking our our body more than we have in the past. Well,
and the age is interesting too, because, like I think,
I'm just beyond that age where even though I can

(29:28):
be Internet savvy, most of my development years were spent
in the real world, Like you know, the screens and
apps weren't as big, whereas with the pandemic plus the
Internet age, gen z, I think virtually in their brain
don't distinguish an interaction online versus in real life like
they can tell you it is. It's not like they're
like I can't tell but in terms of like if

(29:49):
someone confesses their love, if someone bullies them, I think
that in their brain it has a semi maybe yeah,
whereas For me, it might be different because I remember,
you know, wanting to go to the school dances and
getting and flirting in person. I've had my share of
flirting online, but it's a little bit different because older,
you know what I mean, Like I didn't have it's
not like that, that like first introduction to those sensations.

(30:12):
So I feel like that must be a part of
it too, because they're online and they're developing by watching,
whereas we can just grow past thinking oh, it's just
like a character on a screen. Sure, I mean it's
just yeah, but there I mean we I mean I
was definitely like I modeled shipped off of TV when
I was younger, so there may be carry face. I

(30:32):
was going around everywhere going like some somebody stop me.
I know the tattoo, but I feel like, yo, get
that lasered off for a miles, enters every room like
Cramer kicks in the door and fled. Yeah, when I
say what's up, Jerry, and they're like, what's up, Jerry?

(30:54):
Nothing anyway? No, but this it. Yeah, these differences are
I think we're starting to see right like we're in
an age where there are people who have been interacting
with screens and apps that are designed to manipulate your brain,
and then you're adding these isolate like the isolation of
a pandemic, plus like the lack of social contact and

(31:16):
additional stress and things like that. It's I can only
imagine like that this is probably some we're seeing an
experiment basically play out on some level of trying to
understand like how all of these things may interact at
a certain age. But yeah, it's it's but I mean,
it's so the Havana syndrome. Things happening to like grown
adult bureaucrats like kind of the opposite end of the

(31:37):
spectrum from young teenage people who are on TikTok. But
it's still I I I always want to like kind
of resist the urge to blame technology, even though I
know there's like a lot of new ship happening, Like
I do think that just across the board, everybody's under

(31:58):
more stress than they've ever ever been under, and it's
like stress that nobody's acknowledging. Kind of you guys got
to shake it out, Okay, Look, I know it sounds
still in your head. I used to just like when
I get sad, I would just start like shaking my butt,
and I thought that was funny. But over the pandemic,
I started realizing that this isn't just a weird thing

(32:19):
I do. I think it's like a smart thing I do.
I think it's like those stress needs to come out
some way, So shake your butt. At home, guys, you
would say shake your butt to yourself. Okay, don't flash
in a but that's gonna be flashing when you shake
your butt? Are you like half are you trying? Like
what do you mean? Just like like this. I wish

(32:42):
my computer wasn't so because I know I could hear
you were shaking, but I could not see it. I
could just see frozen. It's like since I was a kid,
I know it sounds ridiculous. As an adult woman, I'm like,
I'm shaking my butt, but like babies literally will like
shake their butt like that, you know. And then I'm
growing up to actually dance and torque and whatever. So yeah,
I'll put on music I like and like actually start
to move around and feel myself, you know, like this

(33:04):
is a fun move whatever. But I'll do that for
something like ten minutes while I'm cooking, and just, uh,
it seems silly. But during pandemic. When I was like
the most isolated, it was almost like a daily thing.
It just I'll just get the art to do it.
And I think it was literally my body being like
time to get all the news of today out through
your butts, like it out you know. Yeah, there's there's

(33:30):
your cult though you get people shaking their butts and like,
you know, but you give them that information, right they
process information but then process that do but wiggling. But okay,
I could go for that that we're gonna close to
a cold. I might actually take on so yeah, you know,
I break by brick. We're going to build this thing.
You feel sad, But I was just picturing someone like crying, well,

(33:53):
like just that's not too far off. Uh, all right,
let's talk about Texas the you know, after the Supreme
Court basically made it official that they're playing to overturn

(34:15):
Row and decided to allow this like vigilante law to
go forward. I've been surprised by the lack of just
urgency on the part of like it's not it keeps
getting knocked out of the off the like top of
news sites and the you know, eventually like Joe Biden

(34:40):
and Kamala Harris like use the word abortion in their tweet,
but at first they were like, this is you know,
using very vague language, and it reminded me of that
think that anecdote I always come back to where the
guys from Crooked Media talked about how when they evaluate
candidates for political office, the first thing they do is

(35:01):
check the person's phone and add up the amount of
money and their contact list because it's all about fundraising,
and this gives them something too fundraise on. Like, the
Democrats know that this is a salient issue where they
have the majority on their side, and rather than being like, okay,

(35:22):
it's fucking code read, let's like figure out how to
solve this problem immediately. So an entire state that is
massive that takes like fucking days to drive across has
not like functionally made abortion illegal and instead they I've
read like headlines even that are like Democrats are like,

(35:45):
you know, reeling and yet like feel like they have
a winner for the mid terms basically, and it's just
like fuck that, like that is right, It's all just
you know, getting getting to hold onto power and like
we I don't know, like why why be in power

(36:06):
if you're not going to fucking do anything when the
people who vote for you are directly attacked. Yeah, I
think they want to keep us scared, right, And there's
also just like again, there's just a whole group of
politicians who are not there to actually do anything that
helps people. They just were like, I want to win
an election, and I want to go and I want

(36:27):
to be in Congress, and then from there, I'll just
figure out like which packs and lobbyists I can like
cozy up with to keep me from having to fundraise
on the road, because they'll bundle up a bunch of
donations for me to keep me in office. And I
can just be the most semi powerful person in my
region of the country. And you can tell because it's

(36:49):
just all the Joe Biden said that law. He said,
the bill is quote almost un American, he said almost.
He's very much like even after the insurrection, what did
you say, Like that's on us. I'm like, no, that
literally is us? Like can you have to like you?
It is you. I'm sorry, but I'm not. I don't
like it either, but you can just like, yeah, I'm
just gonna pick and choose at things I want to represent.

(37:10):
And they don't, and we have all of these pressing,
fucking problems, and yet you go on fucking ABC News
right now, You've gotta scroll way down before the word abortion,
abortion shows up. You gotta scroll other websites they're talking about.
You know, granted, there's a natural disaster happening, that's fine,
but there's also this is a huge issue that's affecting

(37:32):
many people in the country and putting a lot of
people at risk, and the potential for that to multiply
across many states is a very real thing. But it's
just easier to be like, oh man, the weather is
bad and not tying it to climate change and not
tying to to how the administration is like not really
doing much in that regard either, or you know, maybe

(37:53):
you can run more headlines about how the the US
spent twenty one trillion dollars after nine eleven, you knowing,
whatever this war on terrorism was, and and think of
all of the outcomes that could have occurred for other
people had maybe if a fraction of that been invested.
Because we have people like Joe Mansion who are shifting
the bed over three and a half trillion dollars when

(38:16):
the plan is to have that paid for with taxes
and to provide people with things like you know, paid childcare,
two years of community college, things that are trying to
address really big issues. And you know, we're just I
don't know, like I don't know if the media that
clearly the media is not built to create the outrage
that's necessary. But there needs to be a lot more
people getting involved in so many things now because it's

(38:38):
clear that we can't rely on these fucking people in Decairolina.
They're on their own pace. Yeah, I think you said
what you said about them just focused on winning, Like
really speak to me because it's like the idea and
people used to be like you're not present or like
you it does not be anxious. You have to learn
how to be present. I'm like, blah blah blah. That's
some like I can't tolly ship. But I do think
it applies here because if you spend your entire you know, campaign,

(39:01):
trying to get elected, that's your goal, and then you
get elected, and then you spend the whole time trying
not to lose your seat. You never spend any time
just being a leader. And really to get elected, you
should spend all of your time in your campaign already
being a leader, right, and that's how you get elected,
instead of trying to get elected and then once you're there,
you should just continue being a leader and spit instead

(39:21):
of We have all these people who are just like,
for maybe one second their acceptance speech, that's when they
like are the most in the moment and actually get
to be like, I will do what I say, And
then immediately they're like, now I cannot lose, so now
I must focus on not losing. I'm not saying anything
too hot to not look up my poll numbers, so
I will retreat to this de facto sort of system

(39:43):
of just business as usual to not rock the boat
too much, because if you think about it, if you're
a politician, there there will be a fork in the
road where you choose to either engage with all of
the chaos that is faith that that your constituents are
facing and to have to make a good faith effort
to ryan hear those concerns and figure out how you
can help them, or you're just like, man, fucking then

(40:05):
there's so much going on, like let me just get
on the committee and like just collect money from that
industry and fucking like let the If you want to
do the heavy ship, then go beyond that committee, because
I can't, you know, you can actually swinging and missing
is better. Like I don't know, maybe we should just
put all of Congress in a like a baseball league
or something. They have to all play each other, so
every week at least somebody loses. Get them over their

(40:26):
fucking fear of losing. Make them losing basketball every week,
and then they're not going to focus on losing their election. Yeah. Well,
I mean, and I think that's why, you know, when
we're looking at this issue as it relates to Texas,
it's just it's massively important, you know, if you believe
that there's a way that we can, somehow with this
two party system arrive at a place that provides the

(40:48):
outcomes that are like, you know, actually beneficial to people
like you know you have. And then if that's the case,
then really look at the kinds of people who you
vote for. If you're going to vote and participate in election,
know who you're sent into office, because most people, you know,
you're it's like an afterthought. And I think that's why
a lot of people are saying, like, you know, if
you're gonna Sadly, they're they're stuck in this very cynical

(41:10):
game of just like winning elections and not you know,
providing for people. Then you know, then maybe the biggest
weapon Democrats have is just force a vote and put
everybody on the record on how they have to codify
Roe versus Wade. Put them on the record, and then
for them, because again everything is about what they can
use in the next election. Then you can use this

(41:33):
this no vote for access to abortions to try and
defeat other candidates. But it's yeah, just like it's obviously like, yeah,
we're democratic supposedly, so we'll go vote. But it's tough
when an entire party is like m O is to
like spend money to make sure some people don't vote.
It's like, perhaps perhaps that might not be in any
voter's best interest, you know. And I think that really

(41:55):
speaks how far we've come when there's just the whole
Republican Party is like just trying to press voters because
they're not even trying to like they believe I mean,
they claim moral high ground, and I'm all for having
true discussions about morality, but in those ones, I think
you let the truth lead. You don't win them by
going and shut up. Like it's like if you really think,
if you really think you're on some moral high grounds,

(42:18):
I welcome that conversation. They know they're not, so then
you have to resort to so like I, you know,
there's things I don't agree with, but I wouldn't make illegal.
You know, I think parenting should be illegal for everyone,
because you know, most parents are bad except for you, Jack,
But I'm not out here proposing parenting to be illegal,

(42:41):
so you know, yeah, I mean this just the the
Democratic Party not doing anything, the mainstream media kind of
not raising the alarm here is really underlines the need
for like, you know, dual powers we've talked about in

(43:02):
recent episodes, and like just actually creating you know, finding
people who are doing things on the ground in Texas
to help women who don't have access to abortions, finding
ways to contribute directly, because yeah, waiting to vote just
doesn't We're We're voting in people who then won't do
anything because they recognize that this issue is beneficial to them.

(43:25):
It's just that whole part of the American system is
feeling more and more just fucking pointless at this point. Yeah,
and it's like anything right any most marginalized groups in
this country who have fucking screamed at the top of
their lungs for some just shred of dignity to be

(43:45):
offered to them. It's like, yeah, yeah, we're gonna get
to that. Make sure you vote in three years. Yeah,
well I'm dying now, So what about now? Oh man,
well you gotta you gotta vote. You gotta make sure.
That's why it's really important to make sure you know, well,
that doesn't help. So then you have to really think
about then what is that kid? Like what where? Where?

(44:05):
Where is the help happening? And it's and it's gonna
be in a lot of organizations that are on the
ground who are already trying to you know, like if
it's the like just numerous organsation like what's the one
I'm thinking of? Oh? Like if when? How? Which is
like the Legal Defense Fund that is just being like,
you know, you've got legal issues as it relates to
like abortion access. Hit us up, like this is this

(44:26):
is what we do, and we provide these services for
free because this is we know that this is how
we can help someone in the immediate like future deal
with something, because there are already reports that abortion clinics
outside of Texas are already seeing a surge of people
fleeing Texas to get access to an abortion. So we like,
the thing isn't to just merely be like, oh fuck, Like, well,

(44:50):
maybe Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer will figure something out,
like the age to like, activism is truly what we
need in every arena of this country we live in,
as it relates to inequality, as it relates to racism,
as it relates to rights for LGBTQ people, as it
relates to abortion access, Like, activism and involvement is truly

(45:10):
the way you're going to be able to participate in
some positive way and be able to be a part
of a cog in this larger movement that will help people.
And it doesn't mean you have to And again I
said this even last summer when people like, well what
do you what do you do about white supremacy? You
don't have to go fight some Nazis. Are you gonna
have to go to an abortion clinic and beat up
a bunch of people, But there are ways to get them,

(45:32):
Just don't stand by and watch. Like if let's say
you just you're saying, well, maybe I'm not going I'm
comfortable going to protest. Maybe you can donate some things
to the organizations that need things to provide people with access.
Maybe you can make a donation. Maybe you can organize
your friend group and say, hey, I just know that
all fifteen of us are on the same page, and
I know that we know this is a serious issue.

(45:53):
I want to make sure we are actively giving something
to this, whether it's going to be our time or
our money or our talents or whatever, that there are
ways to contribute and beat and feel and you know,
actually play an active role in something then because if
you're damn sure not going to get it from waiting
on whatever's going to happen on the hill. Yeah, I

(46:13):
think that's well said, Like it's not about because I
think I mean, as comedians were often like we will
jump into streams and radicalized. But I think there's a
lot to be said about someone who is like comfortable
saying they're uncomfortable, because that's actually how you get real
change is if everyone suddenly became extreme, then we get
that binary right, Like, oh, someone who absolutely doesn't think
it pertains to them is just going to ignore a

(46:34):
whole mob outside no matter how big it gets. But
if it's their friends actually having conversations like oh I'm
starting to think differently, then they actually get to incrementally change.
Like I think we hear about all these organizations helping
and they are doing great stuff, but sometimes you get lost,
like on the upper class, thinking like oh these all exist,
people don't know about them. Like I recently started driving

(46:54):
Uber and just put some community resources in the car
because I had learned about more during just volunteer and
more during the pandemic that I hadn't even known about.
And I like what they're doing. There's like sell out,
you know, you can get free showers things like that
around l A. And I drove to people who they
weren't like they were living in an encampment, but this
seemed like they had their own community and they saw
it and they're like, oh, this is cool. I didn't
know that, and it was like right in the neighborhood,

(47:16):
and I realized, like, to me, it's not just about like,
oh today I'm going to go do service. It's about
just constantly being like, hey, this is a community I'm
part of, and you never know when you're going to
cross paths with someone who didn't know about a resource
that someone is spending a bunch of money trying to
get out there, you know. So I think just being
open to talking to people outside of like your quote
unquote service hours is another way to look at it. Yeah. Absolutely,

(47:40):
And even like if you have like let's say you're like, oh, well,
I I don't know if I'm comfortable going and like
getting super in the faces of people and doing that.
But you can you can give a testimony at a
at a public hearing in support of these things. You
can use your voice to express support. Maybe you're an artist,
you can maybe just create some art around it, because

(48:02):
now you're trying to add something to the conversation. But
there are ways for people to be more actively thinking
about what your places in a given movement for some
kind of some form of equality. Um, and it's not
always the version that they just show you on TV,
which is people fighting in the street. Like there are
so many ways to get involved, or you're just there

(48:23):
for somebody saying hey, if you ever need childcare, you know,
like I'm there for you to do so you can
go do something there there. It's it's not just you know,
the three ways to get involved. So we'll definitely have
some links to like organizations that are on the ground
in Texas who are actively thinking of what do we do?
Is it? You know, because many people already thinking how

(48:45):
are we gonna how do we evolve our ship based
on these laws? And it's gonna take resources and its hell,
if you may have something to offer locally, you might say, hey, man,
I live in Texas and I have time to drive.
I got you know, actually have a couple of vans.
I can let you. All you is to get people around.
That's just easy. That's that's that's a that's a way
that you can still actively contribute to something. And it

(49:08):
might not be in the way you were thinking that
you were afraid of, but you probably have the heart
to say I have time to drive, someone have time
to watch someone's kids, have time to donate. And so
think of that as well. Because this is a really
harrowing time and because we're facing an omni crisis where
everything is in a state of refall, it feels like
that it's so easy to feel apathetic about things, but

(49:30):
just know that there are ways to to feel good
about this not to say that this situation is good,
but you can you can contribute positively. Yeah, there's a
Reddit thread where people are talking about just finding a
way to render the reporting system useless because this is
a publicly fueled, public reporting fueled law. So you know,

(49:52):
nothing's to stop people from getting on a VPN, you know,
looking like they're from Texas and just flooding it with
false reports. I'm not advocating that because I don't know
if it's illegal. If it's illegal, but that's an example of,
you know, the sort of ship that makes sense to
me at least, because I mean, you aren't you able

(50:14):
to sue from outside the state though too? I think so.
But I'm sure they can like sift based on like
coming from and like if they see that like a
bunch of the reports are coming from l A that
are that aren't panning out. Yeah, but I mean this
is just yeah, I mean, we're we're definitely looking at
a time when we're if the Democrats don't have their

(50:36):
ship together, it's truly gonna fall on our own ability
to create community to help each other. I mean, ultimately,
we need a fucking general strike that like with with
something like this that is more popular. Like you, you
could fucking bring the country to to its knees if
you just have a general strike where everybody who believes

(50:58):
that women should have bodily outtime on me like protected
legally just refused to work until that was a fucking lot.
Like that's the sort of thing that is. It might
take to I haven't even heard nobody wants to work anymore, okay, right, right,
It's impossible to get people to work when you're I
don't know, I hate people keep saying, I'm like, nobody

(51:18):
wants to pay. What are you talking about? People want
to work? Yeah, absolutely, and it but it's even harder
to do that when we don't have we're not quite
set up as Americans enough to have those mutual aid
networks to be like, if you don't go to work,
here's how we can take care of you. Here's how
we can get your bills paid. He can't get food
because this is how we're going to shut it down.
But at the same time, you know, it's it's it's

(51:40):
it's about having the mindfulness to understand that, Like more
and more people are gonna have to get in a
place where they understand how they themselves can get organized
to ensure positive outcomes for people, because fucking waiting on
the folks over in d C is just yeah, it's
not fast enough. And they've demonstrated time them and again

(52:00):
that they don't have the will to act fast enough
because unfortunate, that's just the way this system is fucking built.
It's not gonna fucking it's not gonna get radical change
overnight like that, because there will people. There will always
be people like the Joe Mansions of the world that
are set to be obstacles to and one person somehow
has the power to slow down or perceived power to

(52:21):
slow down real progress. But yeah, it just seems like
the Internet and you know, all the social media tools
are being used for fucking organizing q and on ship
and not for organizing like general strikes and ship that
could actually help. So well, there are I mean, there's
there's definitely active campaigns. I think the problem is word

(52:43):
as Americans, people aren't quite in tune with their power,
right because we take everything for granted in this country.
And because of that, there's like this huge there for
many people, especially like you know, upper middle class people
there that's just like so abstract of this idea of
like what to do to take things back or how

(53:05):
you can exercise that power. But I think, as you know,
we see the suffering continue across the country, you are
seeing more and more people figuring out that we're going
to have to rely on each other in some way.
But I think the vocabulary might not be there yet. Yeah, alright,
let's take a quick break. We'll come back and talk
about less important bullshit. And we're back, and uh, where's

(53:38):
let's just go right to moonfall Theresa, you just watched
the trailer, Yeah, just now. Oh God, if you guys
can't see, there's a huge smile on my face. Is ridiculous.
First of all, I gotta say, nailed the name. It
does appear to be about the moon falling. Um, alright,
A plus for that. There's two points there. They did

(54:00):
not nail the size of the moon. The moon appears
to be the same size as the planet Earth in
the trailer, which I don't think is accurate. But you know,
I like to go which I don't think you could
be unequivocal that there's like, yo, that is not the
size of the fucking moon when it's next to Earth,
like that wild. Yeah, this is a what have like?

(54:21):
You know this, the trailers get cookier and Roland Emeric
hits us just with another fucking bizarro way to just
worry about how the world could end in a very
inaccurate way. But hey, that's his forte. The guy who
brought us Independence Day brought us two thousand twelve and

(54:42):
the day after tomorrow at tomorrow, which totally which got
the the science behind climate change slightly wrong. But that's
his thing though, you know, like buck science man. I'm
just here for the visuals. I feel, okay, I have
so I love the moon. I got to say, don't
love the idea of this, But what I do love

(55:04):
about it is my prediction that from the next Fast
and the Furious was either time travel or space or
they've already like kind of on a space. But I
feel like we're going to get a Jules Burn Center
of the Earth at some point with Fan Diesel, and
this is making me very hopeful for that happening soon.
So I will say, like this is like not the
movie we need want, but the movie we need, you know,
because I needed to set the stage for others to

(55:27):
be able to do that. Oh got it. So this
is gonna This is like the sort of catalyst for
for a Space or Inner Inner Core Earth themed Fast
and Furious film. Yeah, this is like the Existence to
the matrix. You know, recently watched Existence, So I mean artistic,

(55:47):
but like, what why do that? Somebody needs to check
on him? Um and uh and his son didn't make
a better show that because it's well, I don't want
to get into this. It's too obscure. But it's like
the weird matrix, these video game simulation where there's like
fucking up a belly button. It's too weird. But I
feel like this is that to whatever the next what

(56:08):
the next thing is? That's good. Take elements that were
planted in this, you know, and uh huh it makes sense?
Yoh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. I mean it's a it's
it's a domino effect essentially, is what we're talking about here.
I get it, you know. I also think the space thing,

(56:29):
this firm thing. I'm come on, I know it sounds
like a joke, but every time these movies come out,
I'm like, you guys, do see it, right, This fear
of being born, this fear of the it's like, come on,
Space is not that complicated. So there's a couple of things,
like in addition, like the moon crashing into the Earth

(56:51):
seems like it would be enough, it would be enough
for me to like keep me entertained for an hour
and a half. But for there there's some additional angles here.
They find out that our moon is not what we
think it is. Uh so it turns out to be
a cake. I'm gonna be pissed. We'll be so happy
though in that scene when it's like it don't worry guys,

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just cakes, just a bunch of cake. There's good children
or like something in the trailer. So maybe they're doing
like an interstellar thing where like love is a fucking
e like it's a it's a space constant or something.
But yeah, they got the size of the moon wrong.
They also have a character who is a conspiracy theorist

(57:37):
who like gets things right, which this also happened in
Godzilla verse. Calm, yeah, converse Godzilla and yeah, I'm very
like this. How could you still think that is a
good idea for a character, like at a time when
we are like suffering for um conspiracy theorists refusing to

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take a critical vaccine for like scientifically made up reasons.
We're gonna make a movie where like we're gonna make
movies where uh like anti mainstream media conspiracy theorists are
like secretly right all along in the heroes like funk
Off right that the Moon could crash into Earth rather
than accepted sciences. If anything were to knock the fucking

(58:26):
Moon off of its gravitational like orbit, it would destroy
the Moon and then we would just get pieces of
moonshit landing on Earth. That's how it happened. I love that,
like in this universe. In the trailer, it's like the
Moon's gonna hit the Earth, and then they zoom in
on a car, like we're gonna care about cars when
the moon is like it's like killing machines humans made.

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It's like, do you know how ridiculous a car would
look in space? I mean, I know I was talking
about the faster good, but like we are so full
of ourselves, do you know how big space is? Like
nobody cares about your cars. Her a little heart blood
cell like leaving the body and being like I'm floating,
Oh you need me. It's like, no, you don't, it's
your fucking blood cell. They crushed one of those Ford broncos.

(59:10):
Those are hard to get. N'm just Holly Berry's get
like working. I'm happy for her. I did love that
scene of Patrick Wilson looking concerned about his career. He's like,
what am I doing in this movie? Do they really
need another white man? You know? He's like he gets it,
you know that that look. It said it to me,
I spoke to me, right, But this is kind of
his thing, right. Roland Emeric is just like he makes

(59:32):
movies to just entertain conspiracy theories. It seems like, yeah,
and they're all like somewhat problematic conspiracy not always, but
like the Third Act of Independence date took place an
area fifty one. He made that Stargate movie, which propagated
the racist theory that the Pyramids must have been built
by aliens because white people didn't build them, so they

(59:54):
must have had alien help. He made the movie Anonymous,
based on the theory that a like earl, a high
born earl Edward de vere actually wrote all of Shakespeare's plays,
which is like a very like that conspiracy theory comes
from people being like it couldn't be a Shakespeare couldn't
have been a mere actor. He must have been like

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somebody who was high born. It's like started by the
fucking House of Lords at one point is going to
come back around and we're gonna get just like a
powerful black writer who's just going to write a movie
that captures all the shittiest movie like like all the
Michael Bays, all that, you know, like and it's like, actually,
I was behind this the whole time, and it's like
then we're not. It's like inception and you're just gonna
be like it doesn't matter anymore. Now we're just gonna

(01:00:36):
like just it's stupid, Like why do we keep doing this?
Like it was all a dream? You know. It's like
that being said, um no, yeah, okay, I don't I
don't even know where I was going with that. I
just think we're going around in circles of what I'm
trying to say. We are one day going to build
the Pyramids, I'm sure of it, and we're going to

(01:00:57):
think that we did it better. But what it is
going to be is just the same thing. And then
in twenty thousand years it's gonna happen all over again,
like that is what's going to happen, yeah, which is yeah,
just as as cyclical as the works of Roman Emeric.
I see we're on the path. I just say, let's
just be present, Okay, Can controlling Emeric just go to

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you know, a sound bath or something and uh fucking
catch up with himself. Well that's what the thing is.
Him and Eckhart Toll. They are working on a New World,
which is the sequel to this. So yeah, buckle your buckle,
your spiritual safety belts. I I wanna say, I almost
guarantee their role in Emeric like has just the most

(01:01:39):
problematic like beliefs and politics and ideas. Uh so yeah.
Our writer J M McNabb was pointing out that like,
at least like Shakespeare's or sorry, Spielberg, the Shakespeare of
our time, Steven Spielberg, Like at least his movies are
about how like people in power fuck up, like Jaws

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in Jurassic Park, Like John's was such a perfect metaphor
for fucking COVID and how we fucked that up. Oh,
that's right. The other thing was they said that in
the New like Independence Day, that Roland Emerick was whitewashing
stonewall too. Oh my god, it's like a white guy
was like the one kicking off Stonewall. Oh, that's in

(01:02:26):
he made a stone Wall movie. I think, Oh, is
that what it is? Yeah, he made a stone Wall movie?
Or is it? Oh? That was it called Stonewall? Yeah,
it was called stone Wall and instead of a I
don't know why that would be an it was like
I was high, but I don't remember that scene. Yeah.
I don't think I've seen that much of Roland Emeric's stuff,

(01:02:48):
to be honest. That that's the only movie that he
made that Stonewall is the only movie that he made
that was not like a massive, like blockbuster disaster movie.
And The Patriot did make The Patriot I think, so
wol Gibson, right, isn't it. Yeah? I feel like I
was so I remember that and then also remember not
watching it. Yeah yeah, because I was like, I don't care, bro,

(01:03:10):
like it's like nothing. So yeah, I'm curious to know
what is next. One is gonna be it's gonna be
about critical race theory. This way, I think it's interesting
what you said about Spielberg being like challenging power, because
in like movies like Jaws, you get even though it's
like whatever old times, like a bunch of white guys
it isn't there is like the truth comes through. There's

(01:03:32):
always like the mass doesn't believe the truth, and there's
always sort of like the money hungry person, like it
still exposes that, whereas like in these kinds of movies,
they're they're like working with the government. It's like the
authorities are correct and it's up to you to save
the world being America, because America is the world. Like
it's this weird fake reality where nobody actually exposes Yeah, dude,

(01:03:56):
scientists don't know what they're talking about this podcast or yeah, yes, yes, yes,
I love this. Shoot god well, Teresa as always such
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a tweeter or some other work of social media you've
been enjoying? Oh yeah, actually this really did make me
last last night. And it's from Alison Liby and just
just sucker for a simple pun tweet. She said, buying
an expensive candle is literally lighting money on fire. It's
pretty good like chefs kid. Yeah, yeah, well done, Miles.

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Where can people find you? What the tweet you've been enjoying? Twitter?
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A tweet that I like. First one is from Christy Careerson.

(01:05:23):
I don't I guess I don't really know who that is,
but this tweet went up. It just said Earth is
crying out for help and the government is worried about
my uterus. The math ain't math in? Yeah? That that
that tracks. And another one from Amy Miller, very wonderful
friend of the show. At Amy Miller tweeted, it's just
like Jesus said in the Bible, please kidnap anyone that

(01:05:45):
helps someone get an abortion. If you do, you will
have enough after taxes to buy a used Nissan Sentra,
and both of our abusive dad's will be proud of us.
Um alright, tweet I've been enjoying at enough, said New York,
tweeted everything and verging in named after Robert Elie needs

(01:06:08):
to be renamed after Alan Iverson which I just think
it's true and needs to happen, and then Estelle it
may and tweeted uh saying why don't we just print
more money in a room full of men just to
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you might enjoy. Miles, what song do we think people
are going to enjoy? Here? On this fine Monday Tuesday, Sorry,
on this fine Tuesday, A lot of albums came out

(01:06:51):
last week. You get Donda, you can get certified lover Boy.
But really the album that you really need to pick
up is the one the new album from Little Sims
called Sometimes I Might Be Introvert. Little Sims is one
of my favorite rappers singers. She's also was in the
last season a Top Boy. She's just like a super
talented performer and musician and her album is fucking dope,

(01:07:16):
although it also has nineteen tracks because look, the game
has changed and everybody has to get in however they can.
But this is a really, really dope album. I've gone
out on a couple of her other songs before. I
think the track Woman was one that we did with
Cleo Soul, but this one is called Two Worlds Apart,
and you get everything from her, her like melodic delivery
and even you know some of her like more you know,

(01:07:38):
just just gutter, just aggressive rap style, and she's like
a fantastic lyricist. I can't say enough about her. To
check out Little Sims with Two Worlds Apartment. Oh right, well.
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