Time Has Been Altered, Catastrophic Miscalculation? 10.31.19

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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My name is Jack O'Brien ak. We ain't go in nowhere,
We ain't don't know where. We can't be stopped now
because where Jack O'Brian here to see if Hannah saultis
and I'm sure to be joined as always by by
co host Mr Miles Greg moving into another country if

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they don't do this impeachment, moving into another country, if
they don't do this speech min move into another country,
if they don't do as apeach Mint. Time to impeach
this man. He should be put into a can in
Guantana Motown. And if I had my little way, he'd

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have been impeached on the first day in and ormous
jump shoot his face the same ship and we'll leave
it there. President the United States of America. Ironic to
uh And that is from Jamison Bruce had jameson Bruce,
thank you for that aka the Bombless Double A K
A H. Because I guess they were broken, or maybe

(01:36):
maybe he just didn't think we deserved it. I'm not
going to speculate, but the mixing room smells like alcohol, right, yeah,
but you know it's he says, he says, it's screen
cleaner that he spilled. Right, I don't know. I don't
know when the screen creeners clean. Screen cleaner smells like
so rock Berry. Now he's just accidentally hitting buttons. He
just hit the conspiracy one guy has wasted. Have you

(01:58):
ever threatened to leave the country based on the outcome
of an election before? I think I did during Bush
when that when that first came up, when it was
like I've already been shown like that, I have already
not about that lightouted myself that I was like, I'm moving,
I'll move, Tod not move, I'll move no matter what,

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to Canada because I just love British Columbia just in general. Yeah,
in Montreal, hell of the town. Uh well, we are
thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the
hilarious comedian one of the very faces on Mountain Zeitmore
and he looked suspiciously like a dog eating spaghetti. Today

(02:40):
he is Mr Billy Wayne Davis. I just look happy
that Yeah, you just described happiness. Yeah, you're eating fruit
by the foot in the most aggressive way of just well,
I thought we only had a certain amount of time
while you were doing the break, so I just started
eating and it just kept You know, there's a couple
of feet of man, it's three long feet of fruity
fun foot to just kids, is that three That ship

(03:03):
used to be three ft. It's bigger than the foot. Yeah,
that's your three feet. When when it came out, I
remember the jingle was something like three long feet of
fruity fun too. I bet they could get away with
a foot just say, well, that's not fun. Man. You
were to like your mom to have a panic attack
when she sees you into eating like a never ending
tape of sugar. The way watching you, you were slinging

(03:25):
the end of the fucking fruit by the foot around
like David fighting Aliath or some ship. Yeah, I was
literally thinking like I'm glad this stuff is going to
come back. But then I was but then you really
never sugar. I don't know why in my hand I
was like, no, it's good for you. You've got that fruit.
You've got your serving of fruit for the day. I
think we can, yeah, we can mark off your food Pyramidum,

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but you just the way you were doing. Have you
ever seen a dog eat spaghetti or try to eat spaghetti?
I don't probably because that's where is that worth watching?
Is that like an activity people engage in. It's like
you want to go and wat some dogs eat spaghetti.
It's just just a social media south video. I did
see an interesting thing where people were putting dried spaghetti

(04:11):
things through cut up hot dog and then and then
cooking the pasta all together, so then your noodles are
already through pures through these hot dog bites. It looks
like hell on Earth but delicious. That's so like hot
dogs and spaghetti those already you know that's a very
acquired taste. Yeah, but hey, do you that's we ran

(04:31):
out of spam. That's when I was like five. I
was like, really, hot dogs, hot dogs and you're spaghetti sauce. Well, hey,
looks well, I'm going to Cincinnati next month and they
spaghetti over chili and people don't get mad I say this,
but I should wait, I have to try to go there,

(04:53):
but I just I don't like it, don't care for it.
I don't it. Would you like the Coneys that we
get the chili dog? It's fine. I don't like messy, right,
So like a chili dog has always been like that's disgusting.
But you've gone to like the Cincinnati Cincinnati chili spots. Yeah,
because when I first went there, you know, that's what
everybody's like, Oh, you gotta go to Scott or gold

(05:15):
Star or whatever. Yeah, either one the regularly spaghetti for
liking gold Star, Like this is spaghetti spaghetti and this chili,
isn't it good? Like no, oh, I like it? You
don't like a bologne? It doesn't go? Sorry that was raised.
I probably was, well, what's interesting, actually, Jack is the
Bolognese which comes from the town of Bologna. Act myself.

(05:38):
It doesn't actually it's not a red sauce. And like
this the whole show because I brought this on myself.
That's why you travel so you can be a dick,
that's right, So I can say, ah, bolognes Yes, Bologna's lit.
That's that town is like everybody, Yeah, they're like of

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like a c a V thrown up on the walls
and ship. I was like, Oh, they're fucking there out here.
Do they throw it? That's awesome. I was like, it's
like a university town, very liberal. It's like, oh ship,
very cool, very cool. All right, Billy, when we're going
to get to know you a little bit better in
a moment. First, we're gonna talk about a couple of
the stories we're covering today. The New York Times is
reporting that whoopsie, we underestimated how much of the map

(06:26):
is going to be underwater during high tides by about
a hundred million people. So that's not u grand scale. Yeah,
it's a lot, a hundred millions a lot. Uh, Like, well,
what one thing that? Um, so all of South Vietnam

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will no longer exist at high tide? Uh, or it
will be you know, a bunch of trees in ocean water.
There's one lost general from the Vietnam War, just just
like we did it nice. But yeah, So we're gonna
talk about that and what was behind that mistake is
a very simple mistake forgot to carry the one on

(07:10):
a couple of things. We are going to check in
with a whistleblower scandal, because back to basics. Remember that transcript, Yeah,
that quote unquote transcript. Turns out there was a reason
that we kept being warned and warning that it wasn't
a transcript, it was a memo. Uh. Turns out that

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was not complete encapsulation, a complete Yeah, and some important
texture was left out. We're gonna talk about what that is.
We're gonna talk about Pelosi releasing the rules for impeachment.
We're gonna talk about I just broke it. Yeah, we're

(07:54):
gonna talk about Netflix's latest feature, which made me think
about a buzz Feed article that's pretty good about how
two thousand and ten broke time. So we're gonna talk
about that, just all the ways that are the zeitgeist
is being mediated by our phones and our media, all

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of that and plenty more. But first, Billy Wayne, what
is something from your search history that's revealing about who
you are? I'm still trying to fix that battery from
my Ford ESCP. I've got two of them in my
house right now. Really yeah, wait, so you have last
time you were looking for it to identify the battery,
you got the battery, now a new battery, and now
you got installed. But now yeah, well no installing it

(08:37):
was easy. But what happens is if they sit for
too long, then they got to get they get below
a certain percentage. Yeah, so now I have to get
them charge up. And I'm looking at the right places
around town that'll just help you out. Other people are
just like, no, we can make a ton of money
off this. Wait, so what do you need to charge?
I may have to. I have to figure that out

(08:59):
exactly once I figured that out exactly. But right now,
I've got a scanner coming. I get it this afternoon.
I'm gonna put it and it's gonna tell me exactly
what's wrong with it, because it could be a fan
issue inside the battery, and that's what it is. It's
pretty easy, well, automotives that gang. If you know the
hacks to charge a battery without getting it's there, they've
already sent it to me. I just have to do. Yes,

(09:21):
they've already blessed knowledge. The longest process of this was
finding the battery because it was just like it was
just the needle in the haystack. Because other people that
do this for a living or finding them quick and
then fix them got it. So I got this one
out of murfas Bro Tennessee. There you go, and then

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they shipped it here. Well, blessings, do you want your
battery journey? Yeah, it's fun. It's been a fun. My
wife is about tired of it. It's about tired of it.
What is something you think is underrated? Underrated? I think that?
Uh man, I I think, um, baseball is underrated? Okay,

(10:05):
Game seven was last night? Yeah? Game seven was last night?
Wasn't last night? Uh? And I just think there were
two teams that weren't necessarily had all the money and
all that. So that's what And there's always a couple
of those teams in baseball because that's what it's about. Yeah. Yeah,
I just think it's a slower, smarter game than people

(10:27):
give it a credit for. And then when people watch it,
they're always like this is like fun and you're like, yeah,
it's great. Background noise. I mean I do most of
the summer in the spring, that's what I put on marking.
I can only watch postseason, like I can only I
understand season. I understand. I'm a baseball fan, But I
do think when people it's boring, I'm like, it's not.

(10:47):
It's not boring once you that's for me, Like I
get like when the stakes are high, that's when I
really guess or football or whatever. I'm sure I've offended
the fucking world, but but I am that way too.
Like when they're like this is this means a lot,
I'm like, okay, I'll sit here for nine minutes. Yeah. Well,
and also to like when you start getting like getting

(11:08):
more interested in like like pitch counts and things like that,
and knowing, like you know, like I don't know how
much this guy's got left in him, and he started
really understanding sort of the tactically what's happening. Then I
was able to appreciate baseball a little bit even more.
Just like a chess, it's chess all the time. It's fascinating,
but it looks slow and fact people can be really
good at it, so that makes it fun too. Yeah,

(11:29):
that is great, great American. Yeah. John Kruk, John Kruk,
who's that guy's blaming on there? If you if they
walk to this room, then they're like, I'm a professional athlete,
you'd be like bullshit. David David Well has pitched a
perfect game, perfect perfect drunk, still drunk, Oh, that's right. Yeah,
he's a good time. Yeah, I think he still is.

(11:53):
All right. You know, we're so close to that riddle
there's a man running home with a man as on,
or there's a man running home and somebody's waiting for
him with a mask on on a Halloween night. Oh wow,
what's happenings so close? One day off? Um? What is

(12:14):
something you think is overrated? Billy? I think consumption is overrated.
Just the act of consuming, to consume is overrated, like
consuming consumer goods, just everything the way humans consume things.
I think it's overrated. I think that people put it
like they gamified it to a weird like the more

(12:36):
I consume, the better I'm It's like they're doing something.
That's the game, you know, that's what they've set up
for us, right because ye like wouldn't work your money
that will give to you that you'll give up right back,
right back, because it's it's weird and if you're not
doing it, something's wrong. Yeah that's the thing, Like why
are you chilling out? Because I got all this stuff? Right?

(12:58):
I think that's the battle I'm having. Yeah, you're like,
this is enough, this is I got to I got
two fourth escape batteries. What else on you do you have? That?
There was very every time I walked through my driveway,
I'm like, dundut dune it, dun dune done. I've done it, Dune,
I've dunt done. I'm like, I gotta face this. But
it's that I think that's like I have several jackets

(13:22):
that are guaranteed for my whole life. I don't know,
we'll go to distance, yeah, but I don't need that one.
So I think like looking at all that and then
like seeing like how much money we waste every year,
it's just like this seems this system seems overrted. Yeah,
that's I think the realization many people have over the years.

(13:42):
At a certain point, you're like, what is it. Have
I been conditioned to do this commercials as a kid? Yeah? Yeah,
it was just I don't know. I went camping recently.
I think that was nice too, just like kind of
stopped get away from all this ship. Yeah, And I
was like, oh yeah, I like this, and most of

(14:02):
the world is away from all the ship. Yeah yeah. Yeah,
Like you have to look to be encased in the
ship like we are on a day to day basis
encased in the ship. Yeah, you could just go in
any direction and find a place that's far far away.
What is a myth? What something people think is true?
You know to be false? That that moving the ride

(14:29):
chair pick up away from l a AX would help
improve traffic. Yeah, that was That was a myth that
people believed to be true. That I was like, uh,
you guys are lying. Yeah, I was proved right that
the videos of that waiting lot or a horrifying someone

(14:52):
that flies a lot. I watched like two seconds of that.
I have turned it off. I was like, nope, Yeah,
he's ruined my life. I mean one thing, I guess
it'll be good because it seems like the taxi line
will just be the fastest one because taxis can now
just line up and you can hop into taxi. That
might have but really, but it might actually help people

(15:13):
to to ride in less cars because you get the
flyaway is a cheap ass option too. That's like sucking
eight bucks. Well that's why I'm mad that you just
said that, because that's already what I decided to do.
And I was like, I'm just not gonna tell anybody.
I'm just gonna take the eight buck thing to Union
station and then do them popping ouber from there cheaper.
Where does it take you, Well, there's a few different places.

(15:33):
It could take the Union Station. It can take you
too van eyes. You know, they have like spots are
in a complete disaster. But my god, to see the
and the whole the whole thing was on a Tuesday
that they're saying that's one of the lightest traffic days
for l a X. And it looked like some kind
of it looked like those scenes in like Apocalypse film

(15:53):
where like everyone's like everyone must evacuate lost arangs was
and it was like everybody with suitcases in this very
tiny lot. What did it? That's what cracked me up
about it was like, look, look how clear l a
X is And you're like, yeah, but look over here.
What you did was just move all that mass over there.
That's the thing that I feel like, we've been to
an airport where they were doing this that it kind

(16:16):
of worked. But for the most part, every time I've
been at a lot that was specifically designed for rideshare
like apps, it's a fucking mess. Man. It depends. And Springfield, Missouri,
it worked really well because we could see our lift
coming from about two miles away, right, and we were
in that special the white women. Larry's like Bay was

(16:41):
like Larry, and He's like, I'm one of two lift drivers.
When when you think of how l a X was designed,
that was for the l a of motherfucking fifty years ago,
you know what I mean. And now this ship is
a whole different game, and we have the same fucking infrastructure.
That's why al X is one of the worst sucking
airports in a city not even close to where's the

(17:02):
fucking train, not evening train. You're there, well you learn
real quick. Like when you get there, you're like, okay,
and then you get to l A X very fast,
so you're like, oh, we made good time, and you're right, Nope,
no you didn't. Now we're still forty five minutes to do.
You might want to walk, and then there's always that
part where if you're stuck underneath in that tunnel, it's
moving slow. If you're at all claustrophobic. This is the

(17:25):
worst thing, well, the only thing that's funny because it
seems like a scheme to get people to pay for
the Uber Black or the Uber Suv, because those are
the only ones now that can't pick you can pick
you up, or it is the return of phone a
friend and be like, hey bro, I'll smoke you out
if you pick me up. Buy you a beer, buy
you a pizza. That's cheaper. Yeah it is. There's a
medman over there next to an in and out. That's

(17:49):
gonna be like the new like it is packed. You're like, yeah,
well that's the new prices, that's the new rode trip process.
I can let us know if you're if your local
airport has figured out how to deal with ride share ship,
let's have actual public transportation here about that too? Yeah,
that that's also useful. Alright, guys, let's talk about this

(18:11):
New York Times article where they basically corrected a bunch
of projected maps, uh for the year based on you know,
climate change, a level rise rise, sea level rise, and
so they were way off because what they were doing

(18:31):
and this seems like the sort of thing that scientists
I'm trusting science a lot when I'm when I'm putting,
you know, the future in their hands and bend like, well,
you guys got this, you know what we need to
do based on global warming. But so they were mistaking
uh actual like where the ground was for where the

(18:53):
tops of buildings and the tops of trees were. They
were assuming that that sea level was the tops of
trees that ground level, so ground level was the tops
of the tops of trees and the tops of buildings.
And so they're like, oh, we've got it. We got
a minute because it has to get to this height.
And then somebody was like, wait a minute, yes, and

(19:16):
then they brought it to their boss. Their boss was like,
damn it. Property there. They completely fucking miscalculated was where
the ground was. Standard elevation measurements using satellites struggle to
differentiate the true ground level from tops of trees or buildings.
That's that was the mistake. And it's the difference between

(19:39):
you know, having some flooding in Vietnam at high tide
to most of South Vietnam disappearing at high time. The
projections of the number of people that were displaced has
gone from a hundred million. I don't old. You've got
to check your work, right, yeah, yeah, right, that's more

(20:02):
important than finishing first. So uh yeah, they were off
by a hundred million. The new research shows that a
hundred and fifty million people are now living on land
that will be below the high tideline by mid fucking
thirty years. Yes, that's not that long, like like you
need to fucking begin planning for that. Now this long.
Quit telling people's stuff, yeah right, yeah, that long stuff

(20:27):
like the bus and now this we quit telling them,
right and we just moved to a mountaintop together and
take the bus there. Yes, um, it's wild though, Just
how I don't I wonder how that mistake happens. Is
that because of the way these satellites are programmed that
like at a certain point, you think, wouldn't they just
be better to have people on the ground taking those measurements,

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or because it's such a like a wild like such
a broad analysis of the entire globe, you have to
use satellite imagery. I mean, I more wonder how the
funk they get been close in the first place, because
I don't know how science works. But yeah, you're right,
you're right. It's just yeah, it seems like they need
to be uh, you know, looking at whatever the lowest

(21:11):
point is, because that's just averaging out to think just
right now, right that if if that those calculations are corrected,
a hundreds or ten million people will be displaced in
thirty years, right, Like that's a fucking start on the walls, right, yeah, exactly.
Well that you're like, how do we keep that? Actually
is they said that you know there this can be

(21:34):
combated with, you know, leaving levies like in New Orleans.
You know, the entire city of New Orleans is below
sea level. Uh, but it's I think billy men walls
to keep displaced people out. Oh sure, just like building walls.
That's right. Well, that just seems like what the that
would be the solution in a thirty year chaotic world

(21:57):
where they're like I was just making a joke out
of like how dumb people. I gotta protect my stealth, right,
We're gotta protect our stuff with the wall, And you're like,
I don't think that's gonna yeah, yeah, what's man, it's
I bet they'll float up to the top of the wall.
The water isn't just jump over there, you go. That's

(22:17):
because there's no ground on your wall. I paid I
paid sixty dollars for your DVDs, man, Thank you. I
like your teachings. Yeah, that like it reminds me of
like that that Mars orbiter, like atmospheric orbiter thing. That
crashed in the like because they didn't convert English units
to metric because still humans doing it. And by dude,

(22:41):
I mean humans. It's still people probably disproportionately meant to
be honest, without a doubt, but I think it's also
like it's Michael Crichton was kind of talking about this
before he died about how because a lot of this
not necessarily this, but sort of this idea that because
a lot of scientists that English is becoming the sort
of dominant language that's being used in the sciences, is
that it forces a lot of people to learn English

(23:03):
and begin thinking in English. And the way when you
speak different languages, you arrive at certain ideas differently based
on like linguistic characteristics, and if everyone is using English,
then people will there won't be enough varied ways of
problem solving that people are all going to see the
same solution, and it could be totally a terrible error
based on this like lack of diversity and like how

(23:25):
we're even analyzing things. So there's even a theory that
because of uh, like there are languages that have basically
no future tense, or their future tense is more connected
to their present tense. And uh, those languages are generally
better at preparing for the future, Like they smoke less,

(23:46):
they save more money, uh than cultures that speak English,
because the way we describe the future is as though
it is a uh you know, a fictional location that
will never right, right, that will never arrive. You die
tomorrow exactly, but that's tomorrow. Yeah. Um, today we need

(24:08):
to funk each other. That's right. Remember yesterday you said tomorrow,
great motivating quote, free beer tomorrow? Is that is that?
Who was that? Was that? Dave Matthews? I saw that
on Daniel Van Kirk's phone actually screen, Yeah, and I
was interesting. He said you said you said tomorrow yesterday.

(24:30):
Huh sick motivational? That is motivational. But Billy, if you
wouldn't mind taking a breather, I want to tell my
friend Miles here about my favorite suitcase right now. Miles
to me Jack from work, Uh would have been ready
for that. Yes, And my favorite suitcase is made by
a company named Away. Um. They make an amazing suitcase

(24:50):
designed to last lifetime. They give you a hundred day
trial on everything they make. So I mean, I'm telling you, man,
you gotta try this company. This is going to be
very awk word. You're not telling me anything I don't
know already. I am well aware of the Away brand, uh,
the strength of their suitcases, the ease of use for
their products, the four independent wheels that move in three

(25:11):
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to go because most planes nowadays like they're like, we're
not gonna invest in screens in the seats. So I
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speaking of travel miles. Let's travel to our nation's capital, Washington,
d c uh and the whistleblower scandal. We're taking it
back to the basics because yes, because we got some

(26:17):
testimony a couple of days ago that suggests that what
what we came to think of as a transcript, we
just it was like we reflexively wanted to describe it
as a transcript because that's how it was written. It
was like Trump and I think it was because it
was presented as such as That's why I was like, oh,

(26:37):
this is transfer and certain things were transcribed in the
technical sense, but is it a transcript full on transcription?
Turns out no, no, why yeah, So yeah, Lieutenant Colonel
VINMN during his testimony basically let them know that there were,
as he says, uh, crucial words and phrases that were

(26:58):
omitted from the White House document that the public saw.
And people are like, oh shit, okay, well we figured
that because there were so and a lot of the
reporting was like this is probably like eight minutes or
the conversation missing throughout this whole thing, And now we
found out that, no, we just didn't talk for a
little bit, right, right, right, you know how you're like

(27:19):
comfortable with somebody and you just sit there. Yeah, Like
we were both watching the same show and we're letting
we're watching for a second, and they were like, damn
you see that. Ye can believe that, actually, but first
investigate Joe Biden, homie. I would imagine that Trump, well,
on like important calls with foreign leaders, would be like
distracted by the TV laugh and be like, sorry, sorry,

(27:41):
I was watching some originally turn it to channel eleven.
That's not the same channel. The same channel eleven doesn't
exist to Well, you're missing well, so the things that
we're missing right included, uh, the President's assertion that there
were recordings of Joe Biden discussing Ukrainian corruption and an

(28:04):
explicit mentioned by President Zelinsky of Ukraine of Barisma Holdings,
which is the energy company that Hunter Biden served on.
So it's a perfect call, perfect call, very perfect. But
the apparently they're saying that there are recordings of him
saying that he was saying that that prosecutor who was
like dropped or dropped the case should be let go

(28:25):
because they're saying this dude isn't doing enough. But as
we already know, that the that that timeline doesn't match
up in terms of like what Barisma was being investigated for,
and the timeline off of Biden asking this person to
step down. It was legitimately because this guy wouldn't hold
anyone accountable. It wasn't like, hey, he should go because
don't make it hot for my hunting boy. And you know,

(28:46):
another point that Vinman was making was that if Ukraine
engaged in this like very highly partisan investigation, then they
would no longer be seen as like an ally by
both parties, which is a threat to national security. Um. Yeah,
and they're saying now there that like they're kind it's

(29:08):
a threat to the security of our name, which could
last part people killed, well, people already you know dying
in Ukraine right fighting the forces that are backed by Russia.
But it is kind of funny to think, you know,
he the White House released the memo, the fake transcript,

(29:31):
and then we're like it's a perfect call. So they
like cut the stuff that they thought was bad, only
to find out that like they just hadn't even gone
deep enough with their cuts. Essentially, I wonder if they
tried to do the thing where they're like leave enough
stinky ship that we can weather so we don't take
a full blown l of trying to hide it, or

(29:53):
they're just that dumb I don't know, but miscalcula two. Yeah,
let's say dumb dumps. Yes, because it's sort of like
when you like, if you ever like copy and pasted
ship for essay and you're like, let me change like
a couple of words, like it feels like it's me,
but really, look if they really pressed me yet, it's not.
I can tell you I do that right now. If

(30:13):
college students are listening, what you do. You find the
sources of the paper you're cutting pasting. You can't paste
those sources, so you know where they come from. You
also change the transitions from paragraph to paragraph. You have
to write those right because that's where your voice is.
All you're doing is change all your and you're not

(30:34):
even really cheating at that point. You're just taking research
from somebody else. See, and I got this, all these
from your DVDs that I bought it. I'm just press well. Yeah,
because you don't do five easy payments of sixty dollars
and you get two DVDs, you get the DVD system,
you get heaven. Oh that's right, yeah, free, Um, yeah,

(30:57):
I don't. It doesn't look it doesn't change much in
terms of like what we understand what happened on the call,
but it does give a lot of new texture to
this now because it's clear that this person he twice
tried to have them like edit what they were going
to release publicly, is like this isn't this is misleading,
and they're like, yeah, thanks for that, Vinmin. And then
they put out this ship and he's like, what the

(31:18):
funk are y'all doing? I held up out No, that's
what he was. Just No, that's not what I'm seeing
from people who are reporting on this whole The whole
progression of the impeachment inquiry is that like now it
really seems like there's not going to be any room
for Republicans to argue the facts. So now it's going

(31:41):
to be uh them arguing. They're going to have to
start arguing that it's not worth it's not bad enough
to remove him. Well, that's the thing. It was the
whole idea of like there actually technically wasn't any quid
pro quo because the aid was released and they didn't
do the investigation. The whole idea like, well, it's a
tempted murder. It was attempt We couldn't you stopped us

(32:04):
before we got to murder that guy. That's the problem.
So you yeah, which is the shittiest effense. It's not.
It's not a good spot to be in, but it is.
I mean how we've always worked, right, That's why Nixon
got away with Watergate because Watergate didn't wasn't a successful robbery, right,
And why we let Hinckley go because Reagan didn't die.

(32:26):
So yeah, I mean that's just we just let people
go if it doesn't if the explicit intended target of there,
they start going like, well, they start arguing like, well,
O J did that ship right? So what's real anymore? Yes? Exactly?
That is the world they're living in, though, What is real?
I think those guys, Yeah, well, I think there's people

(32:49):
who probably are such like lizard reptile brain that they
just need to do what has to be done, that
they don't consider it. And then I think the people
who have half a soul left are kind of being like,
what is I thought we were playing a game? Yeah,
that they just think there's some people in there. They're like,
this is some people are gonna get hurt. This is

(33:12):
just the thing we did. I just wanted to be like,
you know, get some free corn on the cob at
my state fair. And but yeah, I think the thought
I continue a lot is like those guys that are
playing power and like Donald Jr. Like someone like that,
Like who's just saying ship because of whatever? What does
he think, like is his day? Is his life getting

(33:34):
better because of this? Or is his life works? I
would imagine, so we're talking to Yesterday about how narcissists
are actually happy because they're incapable of feeling shame. I
would imagine for somebody like him, who whose life is
controlled by a narcissist, that his life is completely miserable

(33:57):
because he is compelled to like seek the affection of
somebody who's incapable of like loving, yeah, or any empathy.
So it's it's like it's almost like being addicted to something.
It's his life is just a NonStop quest for chasing
the dragon of a father's hug that handy on top

(34:18):
of them. Yeah. And I think someone put a tweet
tweet that it's like that's that is the mark of
someone who has not interacted with their children. Oh god, no, like, yeah,
just to put this hershey bar on your dome, you
absorb it for people who don't know that. At the
White House Halloween thing, they were giving out candy and
there's a little kid in a minion he wasn't Millennium

(34:42):
was given out candy. Yeah, he was there too. I
mean he did something. He was there to be like,
he stood there, come to give somebody? Can he puts
it on top of the minion head who's also had
a bag, yes, in front of him, in front of him, like,
here's where the andy goes in where all the other
candy is goes on your head? What are you? Yellow

(35:05):
mushroom wearing overalls like a decent first lady. She does
do it too, And they were like, okay, fine, right,
I think she did it just just like I just
I really feel like embarrassing all the time. My respect
for how much she is just holding this together by

(35:25):
the seams is growing. I think I think that. I mean,
unless she's got the same brain too, Yeah, maybe she does. Yeah,
I don't know she understands saying anything remotely positive about it.
It's hard to Yeah, well, I think it's like he's
so terrible, you cheer for another awful person. Yeah, that's
the situation watching Succession. You know which one of the

(35:47):
shitty people do you like? Roman? He's charming, he's starring God.
I would probably beat him the funk up if I
saw him in public, but um, you wouldn't. He's charming.
I don't know that around me. That's when I get
like my skin crawls. But I understand, like that's a

(36:08):
very real kind of person. You know, we're charming but
fucking ignorant and heartless. Um well, speaking of people existing
in separate realities and streaming media, which is how I'm watching,
let's talk about Netflix. Uh. They have decided to test

(36:30):
a feature that will allow you to speed up the
video you are watching to like one point to five
to one point five really busy if you need that
ship in half speed, which, well, they say a lot
of people. So it's on mobile only, and they say

(36:51):
a lot of people have been asking for this feature,
not me, but they say it could be for people,
like if it's in a foreign language, that could help you,
like earn, like if you're trying to learn off watching
slow down, Fine, like that's for people who do slow
down I don't mind slowed down. Speed up is where
it gets weird. It's completely betraying the intent of like

(37:13):
the art, Like what you're watching, we're telling a story
in a certain way, yeah, you know, with a certain
rhythm to how these things are laid out, the dialogue,
everything like that. I get it with audio books, I
get it with podcasts just using your ears. So sure,
if you can absorb all that information like that, but
I don't know, there's because this ship, what we do
with this ain't art. But also if you can, if

(37:34):
you need it that fast because your brain is processing whatever,
you can also figure out how to do that. If
you're that fucking smart yourself, why do you need Netflix
to do it? If you're like I just process the
information so fast, I need to watch, like, well, then
you fucking do it, then, smart pants, you're just watching
people like jump around like it's an old timey video

(37:54):
of people the right brothers trying to learn how to fly.
Like it's just I don't I don't understand how that's
not going to get in the way of your ability
to enjoy that. But apparently, uh, Tina Fey was on
a podcast I forget Oh it was the Colnoral Brian podcast,
and she was she was talking about how NBC did

(38:14):
this ship to uh episodes of thirty Rock, Like if
if they were like a couple of seconds over they
needed like ten more seconds of commercial time, they would
just speed it up, would tell whatever. Yeah, just like
but like think about how that fus with like the
rhythm I have the whole show, especially show like that

(38:35):
is so joke heavy. What you need and joke The
kind of jokes they were telling are so timing base
and that's what made that ship. And if you're going
to spade it up like that, I would. I'm just
I was just listen to that podcast and then as
you were saying, I just got more and more livid again.
I was like I would be. Yeah. Yeah, that's why

(38:56):
they say, really is yelling into the hall Again. They've
limited this like test to just mobile because they said
a lot of creators were pushing back like do not
fucking put this on TV? Shit? Like fine, people, but
about it yesterday He's like, this is fucking bullshit. Yeah,
and a lot of people have and I think, you
know that makes sense because it's completely betraying what the

(39:17):
intent is. But hey, to like I think you're saying,
what where are we headed where? Now? We're like, bro,
I need to watch this movie at one and a
half times I needed in my veins. This isn't fast enough.
I'm not getting enough stimulation now. Like as I was
thinking through this, I was like thinking about Netflix shows

(39:41):
I watched recently and Rhythm and Flow. I was like,
it's a great reality show, but like I felt like
I was like stuck watching it. It was so good,
like I couldn't tear myself away. I could see that
sort of like reality TV like and like you want
to like find out what hap right, but that's you know,

(40:02):
he's so fast forward that ship. Yeah you can. But
I did think of one where it's like I would
love to watch the Civil War about kem Burns. There
you got out falling asleep, and I think that would
be the only way to do that. They speed it
up because his pacing is just like he wants you
to feel how long it took? Yeah, he wants you

(40:23):
to He wants to put you in that mind space
and then we had to be right net took another
four days. You're like, I gotta go. How much is
a fortnight? It's fourteen days, isn't it? No, it's Fortnite.
I don't know. I was gonna do four score and same. Yeah,

(40:49):
all right, uh cool? What have I answered? It's free,
you just download it. There's some in Matt purchases. That's
all right. We're gonna take a quick break and we'll
be back with more ways. Our reality is being melted

(41:12):
and we're back. And so there's this BuzzFeed article that
that last story about Netflix sort of allowing us to
speed up how we view their content. This buzz made
me think of there's this BuzzFeed article talking about how
the two thousand tens broke time as it exists in
our brain. And they're just talking about all the different things,

(41:36):
like you kind of hear this all the time now
right like time has melted, My brain has melted, Donald Trump,
It's melted my brain. I feel like that happened four
weeks ago, but it was only two days ago, or
you know, right when we're like, didn't the impeachment things
start like last week? It's been five weeks, right, and
in the twenty months. So they're pointing out that all this,

(41:59):
all these things that change how we just interact with
our world. Like came out in the last like since
the I guess they say. In the twenty months between
Hillary Clinton's campaign announcement and Trump's inauguration. Uh, everything from
Apple Music to HBO Now to Apple News launched or relaunched.

(42:19):
The Amazon Echo, Google Home, and Apple Watch hit the market. UH.
Publishers established the current form and tone of the news
push alerts that you received. Facebook launched a live streaming
function uh, and then d prioritized it when people started
killing people on it. UH. Instagram launched the Instagram Stories.

(42:42):
Twitter introduced the quote tweet option and has transitioned into
a like algorithmically driven version. Yeah, rather than like real time,
Rather than real time, you're getting what they want you
to read. Write what Yeah, what they think you're going
to enjoy and continue to read? Like what's the most

(43:03):
sticky thing? And this is calling what they want you
to read. There's also the thing you're saying. But and
I cynical, But yes, I think would be dumb not
to be cynical that they're also pushing certain things in there.
What do you mean, like just suppressing things that what
what do you mean? I just think like, uh, like
four or five months ago, I unfollowed everyone as this, yes, exactly,

(43:27):
and you realize, well, it's also funny. You realize who
your friends are like really addicted to it because they're like, yeah,
what the funk, dude, And you're like, well, look it
wasn't just you. But I realized that I still have
a feed showing me stuff, showing me tweets, and I'm
not following anybody. So that's when I was like, this

(43:50):
is they're telling I mean to a certain degree, they
know what I want to see and what I've liked
and stuff, but also throw it off and just like
everything sometimes it so but he likes my tweets, I'll
do like like a lot of yours. You just thank you.
Sometimes I don't lock him just because I'm like, he's
getting cocky. He's getting cocky with these one tweets a week.

(44:12):
What's he doing cool? Two weeks in a row? That
is what? So, Yeah, I'm enough cold brew my man.
The so is that sort of just sort of talking
about the idea that because because even Facebook, right that
timeline or whatever the funk it was called before timeline
your wall or whatever felt like a real time thing
of everyone posting things. And now because I knew what

(44:35):
my friends were up to at that moment. Yeah. And
then so now because that sort of melted away, that's
just has like this knock on thing of like when
is now? When is earlier? Yeah? Like when is? Yeah?
I mean the A good example they're talking about on
the press Box podcast was that Rolling Stone article that

(44:57):
everybody was up in arms about the list of the
fifty best singers singers or whatever. Uh, and everybody was like,
what the funk Bob doing is number one? This is
such bullshit And people were like weighing in, and then
somebody pointed out that the article was from two thousand eight, right,
that everybody was getting he was unquestionably the best singer.
Then it's not an argument, right, it was so, but

(45:20):
it's like it's just like people, I don't know, we well, yeah,
things pop up because yeah, yeah, we think we're interacting
with things that are happening. What's that one tweet that
keeps getting this shrimp fraud rice. It goes viral like
every week someone someone writes the same tweet, like you're

(45:41):
telling me the shrimp fried this rice. Yeah, and it'll
go dead joke, Yeah, it'll go viral. I'll see it
once awake, somebody else retweeting it into my face and
it's somebody else wrote it. I think it's become a
meme because of the fact that people keep writing it
and now I've I've heard it by like I've heard

(46:04):
like thirty different versions of it. Yeah, well, yeah that
they did, dude, some takes that were prieved. There's some
good ones. Yeah. Yeah. And it's like every time they're
at the end of a football game or something like
a championship, I always retweet Africa is getting so many
t shirts after the sports thing. And let's say everyone

(46:24):
does that joke every time, but it gets retweeted bazillion times.
I mean yeah, Like two people invented the light bulb
at the same time, like in two separate cities, completely
independently of each other, because that idea was just in
the air. So that is happening constant until no one
knew how or when people got ideas though, right, that's

(46:46):
exactly right, and then since that time, the same light
bulbs have been popping on over people's heads. I've had
a candle moment. Just I got mine when I lived
in Silver, like we got it replaced to an Adison bulb.
It's pretty cool when I get an idea, how much
is that procedure costs? Actually have been admiring that Edison

(47:09):
bulbs are everywhere too much. Yeah, it's that in the
vertical fence or the horizontal fan or the gentrifire fence.
That's that in Edithy. We're like, you know, they have
Edison bulbs in that house. The entire interior is in
Edison bulb. And there's a cardboard antler head, yes, buckhead
made out of cardboard. Yes. Yeah, So I guess I
didn't fully appreciate how much of this had changed in

(47:32):
the last decade, Like, yeah, it really is something else though, too,
Like when you realize how we used to take in
media or what we thought was even social media at
the time. I went from oh, all this is in
real time to now like, no, it could be from whatever.
And like how subtly that like affects you too, because
Instagram goes from being a thing like yo, this is

(47:54):
telling me what everyone is taking a photo of right
now too. This has been happening the last five fucking
days on Instagram. Yeah, And then I'm like, is and
you have there is a version of you that exists
on social media where they know so much about you
that yeah, like you were saying, Bill, you can stop
following everybody, It doesn't matter. They still know what you're
gonna like. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we exist in black mirror

(48:18):
more now. And they also know what you This is
the thing I've noticed. They know what you will respond
to in a negative way and put it in front
of you. Yeah yeah, because they'll know you'll that quote
tweet didn't be like you see his fucking ship right here, right,
And because that all they wants the interaction. So they're
gonna show you stuff where you're like, why am I seeing? Oh,

(48:39):
because you want me to be mad, and you know
I'll react. So that's that, that's the manipulation part I'm
talking about. Whether Yeah, no, for sure. Um alright, let's uh,
let's check in with what Bill Mary has been up to.
Oh God, God bless him. This guy is ever I think.
I think, God pretty, he's got the only form of

(49:01):
alcoholism that results in an amazing show business career. Right. Well,
you always hear these, you know. It sort of goes
along the theme of Bill Murray of like he's always
popping up at a random party, he's popping up at
this place. He's serving drinks at this bar, and now
this is the thing that the field during the Cubs game.

(49:23):
Bill Murray like, I think he's got a drinking um.
So he was on Amy Schumer's podcast recently and said
that he like he applied for a job recently. They're
like what what what what are you talking about. He's like,
like an actual job, and he said, quote, I did
fill out an application at p F Chang's at the
Atlanta Airport because I think that's one of the great places.

(49:47):
And they were like okay when they asked, like what
do you mean, Like what did you apply for? He
just goes, you know, just to work there. It looks
like the best time. So this so then like the
PF change, Twitter was like you're hired, bro, Yeah, but
I don't know if uh. It's so funny, Like when
I think about Bill Murray, like, is he's just at

(50:08):
that point he's so bored that he's like kind of
being like, yo, that would be kind of tight. Let
me just work at p F Chang's. Is this all
the stunt? Is he that lonely? Does he just want that?
Like he just likes to see the surprise on people's
faces when they're like, oh my god, Bill Murray just
gave me this orange chicken. I think he just he
does whatever he wants because there's no there's no restriction.
I think that's part of I think there is, Like

(50:30):
he's probably just a really fun drunk um. But I
also think that knowing enough famous people without even just
because they're they're also human, they start seeing what the
limitations are. That's why a lot of them get in trouble.
That's why that it's impressive when some people are just
normal and famous. We're like, I don't know what they're doing,

(50:52):
but it's evil or something, you know, sail or something,
or are you so well adjusted? Yeah, but well it's
a lot of work to be that well adjusted. But
I think he started he started pressing, like what are
my limits? Like I can go to all these secret rooms.
I'm invited to all the Hollywood ship Bill Murray, Can
I walk into? Can I walk off? Can I walk

(51:15):
over to this person's table while they're eating and grab
a biscuit from their plate and eat it and put
it back down and then say no, I don't believe you, yes,
and walk off? Without anybody trying to fight me. And
then no one tried to fight him, so it just
he just kept escalating it. Yeah, he's just gonna yeah,
he's gonna hit pedestrians with his car or something. Well,

(51:36):
probably it leaves until he hit something with a golf car.
I think he's got enough people around him and they'll
be like, you can't drive anymore, right, I think, and
he'll be like cool limitations finally, Yeah, just waiting until somebody. Yeah,
that's all he wants is I just want someone to
tell me no. It would be nice that that guy

(51:58):
in charge of the PF Change is like, hey, Bill,
you gotta put the things in. You got to marry
the He's like, thank you, Now this sucks. Yes, hey,
well before I could just do all the drugs and
everyone loved me. William William, can you come back here? Really? Yeah?
You're putting hoisten sauce on the wrong dishes man. Yeah,
you're not the guide. Is there for a reason you

(52:19):
should know how to assemble? These days? He's just like,
this is the best most fun I've had in years.
This shouldn't be fun. This is p F change. Williams.
Feel you're doing the job wrong if this is fun
so free, there's no buns. But he famously like he
doesn't have representation, right, Like he doesn't have a se
a voicemail. Yeah, I think he has a phone number.

(52:40):
You leave a voicemail and then he I'm sure there's
that's like the legend, but I'm sure there's like just
knowing how all of it works there, but he doesn't
have there's a lawyer or fucking somebody. There's a lawyer,
but has to be. But he's typically the one who
fields his own call, like he wants to call back
because he listens to the voicemails where people are like, hey,

(53:02):
we want you to play f DR things like cool
I did that, We want you to play General pfunk.
It's how he ended up in the Garfield movie because
he thought that the Joel Cohen who wrote it was
from the Cohen Brothers and not just a random dude.
Uh So he really did think that, Yeah, that's he

(53:23):
explained to somebody in an interview. He was like, yeah, there,
I really regret doing the Garfield movie. I thought that
Joel Cohen was was the Cohen brother that's an alcoholic
thing to do and someone that used to drink quite
a bit. That is, I recognize what that was, Like
I thought that was something else, and then I was

(53:46):
too far in to admit, Yeah, some people are just
really really good at being drunk and well and then
even years later that's also a drunk thing to do,
is admit it to exactly used to Like, I would
feel so much shame about that, Like I would never
tell anybody. I would quit my career. And he just
like goes and does a Rolling Stone interview with the

(54:07):
movie Is that dude wrote? Is pretty interesting? He wrote
toy Story first of all, Monster mass Movie Money Talks.
If you remember with Charlie Sheen and Chris Tucker movie
when he goes, I'm sorry your wife is fat. P
h a t pretty hot in Tempting, Um, Goodbye, Lever,
Cheaper by the Dozen, both Garfield movies, Evan Almighty, Daddy Day,

(54:27):
camp Alms, Controls the Secret Chamber. The kind of stopped
after The Last Godfather, which is a South Korean comedy film. Um. Interesting,
he got a sounds like he made his money. Yeah,
after Toy Story, I don't know how you go back
to work. Well they you see it sounds like he
had a contract that he had to feel because those

(54:49):
are all big studio movies that make no sense as
like an artist. But if you're just a writer and
you're like, I wrote, Toy Story is my first one.
I could retire, but then I have to give him
the back, so now I have to cheaper by the dozen.
And Toy Story is like animated movies don't pay writers
ship because it's not a it's not a guild thing

(55:10):
animated movies. It is now it is because it wasn't
in the nine No, it was not Toy Story. And
he's like, um, and my scene. Sorry, it was a buyout. Yeah.
We talked about how the writers of The Lion King
didn't get for that movie being like a multibillion dollar
success anything for that Aladdin, they didn't get shipped for that,

(55:33):
at least they don't. There's not reminders of it everywhere. Yeah,
you know who can remember those films anyways? Um, alright,
we wanted to bring in super producer on a hose
Nier for a book report, a book she's been reading
over the course of a number of weeks, and it

(55:56):
is it's actually a far side collection of collection of
bill Um. It's uh, and I keep hearing it brought
up in the zeit guy, so I wanted to like,
once she finished, I said, let's have you on to
puce Rono, Hosnia and uh, report back to us about
Demi Moore's autobiography titled It's Love Having You on You

(56:22):
inside out, inside out. Sorry, sorry I couldn't remember because
I just remembered as that Demi bar Demi Bore, Demi
Moore memoir a memoir, yea demire love. I feel like
every day you would come in and go, oh my god, guys,

(56:44):
Demi Moore's life literally and it would be completely on
and out of nowhere. And the stories though that you
were telling us are well. Let's say if Demi Moore
did not turn out to be Demi Moore and was like,
I don't know, just an other person like just well
not even that, like just didn't basically overdosed on drugs

(57:06):
at a very young age, I'd be like, yeah, I understand.
Her life was so fucking hard. She had the toughest
life of anyone. I mean, and I I grew up
in vast privilege, so um, not like you know, but
in the sense that like I've always had like two
parents who were always there. I always knew I could

(57:28):
go home somewhere. I've always I never felt like I
didn't have anyone to turn to. So to see her
life and see she was raised by two like raging
alcoholic parents who they would divorce, breakup, divorce, breakup, divorce, breakup.
Dad was always getting beat up by mob members. Mom

(57:48):
was always using her body to get ahead, like a
lot of stuff, which you know, hey, no shame, You
do what you gotta do. People come from certain circumstances
where those that's what they end up doing. Yeah, that's
the hustle. I mean, but yeah, just to like kind
of under a line, like for our younger listeners, like
she was so iconic like in the nineties, I mean

(58:08):
it made me. I had never seen the majority of
her movies, and I watched Ghosts for the first time
the other week. It was like, well again, I was
raised by Iranian parents who are not letting me watch
movies really, so like I hadn't seen anything during her
the height of her success. Um, and they didn't let
you watch the one where they where they the ghost.

(58:34):
That's funny because like great film, Um, it is good,
he's a ghost. Well, I mean, well, let's be real,
it's Whoopie Goberg. That's I mean, it is an interesting
well we don't get into the Yeah, it's an interesting,
great film, go watch it, but yeah, I mean it

(58:56):
starts from her birth where she had like kidney problems
as a kid, so she was already kind of struggling
to finding out her father's not her real father, but
no one wanted to tell her because they were like what,
like everyone's like her mom is just like back off.

(59:18):
That's like so you're like, okay, well this isn't a
great start. Um. You know. Then it goes into how
she got into acting and a lot of her drug
abuse and kind of like Joel Schumacher made her get sober.
He was going to kick her out of her production.
So she did like a rehab program that a lot
of Hollywood producers kind of helped her deal with. But

(59:40):
of course she you know, it's it was a different
time and it sounds like she would be she would
have ended up like dead herself. She said, if they
didn't do anything I did, they identified her talent or
like you should sort yourself out or will help you. Really,
she had the support for someone to intervene. Someone stepped

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in and was like, I believe Joel Schumacher said, if
I ever if I hear of you even drinking a beer,
I will write you will never work again, or like
I will, I will do that someone with the power
that could ruin your career, right, Yeah, And and so
you know, they stepped in. They put her in rehab
and they said, if you, you know, follow all the steps,
get sober, we will um well, we'll make sure you

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go far, like we will help you if you make
the effort to clean yourself up, because you have this talent.
You're you know, I mean, And he's sad to say,
like at the time, like you have the looks, you
got it going on, you're part of the what was
it like the brat pack, the rat Yeah, yeah, I
can say. She's sometimes in the yogaga too. And first

(01:00:48):
and my wife didn't and I was like, oh that
hot woman in the middle, she's fucking gorgeous, and I
didn't realize. And she's like in her fifties, I guess now,
hottest woman in there, and there like a question marks,
but she's gorgeous, but raised all over her parents. They
she was she basically heard this is the parents had

(01:01:08):
a great hustle. They would use different names everywhere they
went so the creditors could never find them, so they
were constantly like she basically learned to hustle from her
parents who were constantly keeping it on the go, like
someone wants their rent, let's move here, like it was.
And then she did end up in l A at
one point and that's kind of where she got. Um,
those are all good l A skills. Yeah, I mean

(01:01:31):
a chameleon learning how to learning how to identify other hustlers,
what they're up to, and to avoid her team up. Yeah.
Darkest part the problem with coming to l A is
something we've kind of been discussing in the office, is
that younger women tend to be treated as if they're older.
And that's a lot of Um. Demi Moore's youth was

(01:01:53):
kind of like she may have been fifteen, but she
was treated as like an older woman and men, you know,
tend to men who were way too old to her
tend to flock to her. And she's a not She's insecure,
she doesn't know how to deal with it. She doesn't
have an idea of like structure and commitment. Yes, and
there's a situation where her mother may or may not

(01:02:16):
have basically hoard her out for five dollars to be
raped by a restaurant owner in Los Angeles. So fancy,
don't let us down. Yeah, it's it's uh. She's still
to this date doesn't know if her mom actively did it,
but she definitely gave that man the key to her
their apartment and that man paid for their next apartment.

(01:02:36):
So it's very dark. And from there it's kind of
a spiral until she gets sober. She's sober for about
twenty years, has her kids with Bruce Willis, they divorce,
gets with Ashton, and then it's a spiral down when
Ashton Kutcher says that he doesn't think alcoholism is a
real thing. Again, he was when this happened, and she

(01:02:57):
was like in her which is true to somebody in
their twenties, Alcoholism is not a real thing. We're just
talking about this just to state in mind. It's like
you go from like Yo, do Rob parties, man the
full parties, and when you get your thirties, you go
Rob is an alcoholic jet ski Yeah right, his pants
at the bar. Because when you're at that age, you

(01:03:23):
really have no context for it because culturally, at your
youth is about just fucking you know, doing the most
and ship and like, yeah, you get to a point
where you're dealing with someone who actually has substance abuse issues,
you're like, that's dude, it's chills chills. Yeah, And I
think we have to recognize that too. Yeah, as a person,
like we everyone has to be like, oh, I can't.
You can't be that guy. You can't. Yeah. And I

(01:03:45):
think she she goes in retrospect. She's aware of the
situation now, but I think at the time it was
tough for her to see outside of it because she
was like, oh, wow, like someone is showing her attention
and they're connecting on such a strong level, and she
just wants to be like cool and young for him,
which is hard because you have like a twenty year
age difference that you want so badly to be this

(01:04:07):
person for this person that you really like and they
like you, And so I think she kind of lost
herself there. But after they broke up and she kind of,
you know, you know, I'm assuming it went to a
lot of therapy based on how she writes about it,
and got sober and figure her life out. That Like
she's truly at peace now, and that's like a great way.
The book ends is like she's just like throughout that chaos. Yeah,

(01:04:28):
through all that, she finds herself. She's living in her
nice house in Idaho, away from everyone, just looking up
at the moon. Didn't when she starts with her within
herself when she started getting sucked up again, didn't she
almost like odon something that's hard to like laughing at
h No. I think what happened was she was just

(01:04:48):
in like a really bad mental place. Um, and she
wasn't eating. That's the thing. She also struggled with eating disorder. Special. Yeah,
that's because in one movie she gained like ten pounds
imagine her now. She gained ten pounds still so skinny,
and a director was like, well, you're going to be
in a bathing suit, so I really can't have you
being this fat basically, and she was like, oh cool, Jane,

(01:05:12):
everybody on earth up g I Jane. She did the special,
she did the training for it. She did she went
through the entire training, and they didn't think she would survive,
Like they were actually getting really scared that she might
die in the training and she was like, no, I
have to do it or no one will believe me. Well,
and then she was that strong, and then I think
Bruce was kind of like a girl, you're two buff
for me. Well, the meant that that's most of the

(01:05:35):
Navy's still training is elemental stuff, and it sounds like
her whole life has been leading up. She's like smoking
a cigarette. She's like, this is fucking easy. She came
out of Strip Tease to do that, So she'd been
working out for Strip Tease as well and then came
into that and I think that but she did all

(01:05:55):
the exercising and and did the whole like you know
whatever that training what do they call the Special Forces maybe?
And uh yeah, so she she went through that whole training.
And then the only thing that I didn't know this,
but apparently it's the thing where they say, like men
are stronger than women, it only applies to upper body

(01:06:16):
strength because we can't get to that certain level. Because
she said that most pull up she could do was
three after all, how both she was because I guess
that's the thing, and they told her it's like it's
not like it just is that weird fact of just
women can't get to that level of that was before
a CrossFit though, that was before a CrossFit, which is
like crossed. I know, it's kind of crazy, like I can't.

(01:06:40):
I could do like one pull up before I pass away.
Literally Welcome to the funeral of Ana. She died tragically
mid pull up. When I realized how crazy her life was.
Like just from the just going through the same yoga
was that there was like this Australian guy that are
teacher really loved, and he was beautiful. He was like

(01:07:02):
this like he had like the weird dreadlocks that pirates have,
like white people dreads. Yeah, but not in the way
that you're like that's awful. You're like, that's the cool.
This dude looks cool because it's like nearly like it
looks like you don't wash your most of his dreads. Yeah,
most of his hair was like flowing. And then there's
like a dreadlock like a pirate was having. And he
was like buff and like I remember seeing him like

(01:07:24):
I don't know who that guy is, but stay away
from my wife. I can't do anything, just stay away.
And then they slowly they started, you know, and then
they were a thing that like he was always right
next to her. And then like a couple of weeks later,
Aaron and I were at the grocery store and in
the gossip things it was her and him, and I

(01:07:45):
was like, hey, look, and you're hiding it from her,
Like don't look at that guy was just so excited.
So we like opened up and read it and it
was like yeah, and they were they were sucking in
the shower of the yoga place and it was so
loud and air. And that's true. She always says. She
talks about how much she hates tabloids in it, and

(01:08:06):
she says, there's always most of it's fake, but there's
always one thread of truth, and that's what really fucks
you up. Because the fun did they like, well, the
thing is they met at a yoga place. The rest
is kind of like exaggerating, but there's one thing that
like really fucks with your head apparently, because it's like, well,
how the funk would they ever find out that one
thing to then blow it up? And because was like

(01:08:28):
she's told them that because like you don't notice anybody
that doesn't belong in yoga. It's like, that's how good
the tabloid. That's what I'm saying, or it's just like
they know somebody was like, oh yeah, to be Moore's
dating this weird pirate dude. Now that I think about it,
I was an extra guy in the yoga class who
had a bunch of go pros on him that she's

(01:08:51):
made and cool. I really recommend the book. It's very interesting.
You also hear about like Bruce Willis's wild ass days,
like partying with Wooden Harrilson and John Goodman. Apparently they
all hit because back then, you know, no uber black,
so they were like all hanging out of their like
limos of the topping like whoa not just that imagery
of like Woody Haroldson, John Goodman and Bruce Willis just up.

(01:09:12):
Well that's before cocaine was bad for you. Yeah yeah,
yeah yeah, So they were all like just partying really hard.
But I don't know, it just brings up this like
kind of really funny nostalgic era of Hollywood with all
these dudes who were like young and just out of
their minds. But then now we're like griod actors. And
I'm really only talking about what Haroldson talking, but like
you know, Bruce Willis is an icon. Bruce noses spot. Yeah,

(01:09:37):
he's the kind of guy who like, I'll die during
doing this stunt because I need to prove I can
do it well. It's also kind of funny about his image,
like that too about him. Yeah. I so it's weird
because I didn't care about the fact that Bruce Wilson
Demi Moore were married, but they were the only two
actors who I would like go see a movie just

(01:09:58):
because they were in it. I was like, Bruce Willis
movies were my favorite genre of movies. Uh, and Demi Moore,
like I went and saw Gigan because she was in it.
I still haven't seen it. I will watch. It's good.
It's great, it's great. I think does Angels ghost aged?
While I thought, oh, yeah, well it's just the time
love story. Yeah, it's just a story. Yeah. The working

(01:10:25):
title was fucking a ghost. Joel Schumacher came in. He's like, no,
saved your career twice. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, big recommend And
I if you don't have time to read, I recommend
the audible version because Demi reads it herself. So it's
like it's like you so much, Uh, well, thank you? Anna?

(01:10:52):
Where where can people find you on dem would be awesome.
I'm at Anna Hosan on Twitter and I will just
be there for the rest of my life. Okay, don't well,
everything was going well until then. Billy, Where can people
find you and follow you? Billy Wayne Davis on Twitter

(01:11:14):
at Billy Wayne Davis on Instagram although I'm I'm locked
out of my Instagram, although I keep gaining followers, which
is pretty fun to check in on from time time. Um,
but you can follow me that. We're working on that.
And then touring wise, this Friday and Saturday, I'm in Seattle.
First show is sold out, I know that's nice, and

(01:11:35):
then there are three others. There's a late show Friday
in two on Saturday, and after that, I'm in Atlanta, Houston, Huntington,
West Virginia, Birmingham, Alabama. All that's on b w DO
b w D tour dot com. Thanks for letting me
get that out. Yeah yeah, is there a tweet you've
been enjoying? Yes? Uh, Jasey jed Uh. She said, I

(01:12:00):
didn't think anything could be stupider than giving a dog
a metal, but then Trump photoshopped himself giving a dog
a metal. It's just a wonderful way to put that. Yeah,
shout out to that dog. Miles Where can people find? You?
Find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray.
Some tweets I like, uh. First one is from Tamara

(01:12:22):
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