To The WALZ! Cat Lady Quip Costly? 08.07.24

In episode 1721, Jack and Miles are joined by host of Conspiracy, She Wrote, Cristen Conger, to discuss… She Picked Walz! Could Vance’s “Childless Cat Ladies” Comment Cost Trump The Election? And more!

1. Trump Is Already Losing It Over Kamala Choosing Tim Walz as V.P.
2. Trump’s New Attack on ‘Kamabla’ Harris Is Literally Gibberish
3. Could Vance’s “Childless Cat Ladies” Comment Cost Trump The Election?
4. The Experiences of U.S. Adults Who Don’t Have Children
5. U.S. Fertility Rate Drops to Another Historic Low
6. Vance's attack on "childless" Harris becomes rallying cry for women
7. 'Unbelievably Cruel': GOP Pushes Astronomical Cuts to Education, Housing, and Food Aid
8. ‘Childless cat ladies’: Has JD Vance taken on 22 million US women?
9. Better watch out, JD Vance, Arizona has many 'childless cat ladies' ... and men
10. Which U.S. City Has the Most Cat Ladies?
11. Vance's 'childless cat ladies' comment sparks uproar from Swift fans: 'Armageddon is coming'
12. Pet Ownership Statistics 2024
13. Mount Purrnon Cat Cafe make “Childless Cat Lady” shirts in response to JD Vance comments

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:05):
Wild, how how far the little fingers can fit into
the outfits.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
You know. That's why I was telling that. I was like, well,
they used to use them world for this job. This
is why people had babies in the olden days, janky electrical.

Speaker 3 (00:17):
Babies to reach into all the electrical equipment and machinery.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
To reach into the floor furnace. Because my vape pen
slid through the grate, you can.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
Get all the way up in that fucker. Man, it's
gonna have been there. It's not gonna burn them. But
the part he touches probably not even that. Maybe that's hard.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
Oh no, no, no, no, no, get out of there, Get
out there. That might be too far from me even Yeah,
you're right, you're right. You're right, you're right.

Speaker 3 (00:52):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season three point fifty,
episode three of Dirt Alley's I Guys Say Production of iHeart.
This is a podcast where we take a deep dive
into America's shared consciousness.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
And it is Wednesday, August seventh, twenty twenty four, eight seven.
Oh what would that be? It's Purple Heart Day. It's
National Raspberries and Cream Day. Also, I don't know what
this animal is, but it says it is national sea serpent. Oh, no,
that's a snake. For a second, I was like, that's

(01:26):
a very long fish. Like, no, it's a sea serpent.
Now is that a real thing or is that a
biblical thing that you're also national? There's the ar.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
Fish that is an actual animal that they suspect was
the inspiration for the sea serpent.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
I see icy, Yes it is. It is a fantastic creature.
So yeah, hey, look, if you're on the season, you're
seeing shit. It's your day.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
If you're on the season seeing shit, congratulations today we
salute you.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
But only today. Any other day.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
You're out on the season, you see us sea serpent.
Give it to your talk to somebody else. I don't
give a fuck, all right.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
To that weirdo in the lighthouse because you both had
your day yesterday. Okay, that's right. My name's Jack O'Brien aka.

Speaker 4 (02:10):
Can't stop addicted to the catch gig swayed top. She says,
I'm gonna win big, choose not a life but masturbation
late text gloves in case my Mima comes in.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
That is courtesy of Bottles and Fans and the Red
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in fact, I think that's what bottles and fans wrote on.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
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Speaker 3 (02:45):
Yes, I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my
co host, mister Miles Gram Miles Gray k on.

Speaker 5 (02:52):
A man on a man on a man on a
really hot a man.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
He loves a hot a man, y'all. Okay, I just
thought of that in my garage because the AC is
out and everything still, everything is JD vance. We will
not let go of the misinformation because it's all about
you know, it's the vibes, and we believe.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
We could move on to eyeliner, but we're not going
to because I actually don't believe he's wearing eyeliner. I
just think he has those lashes them.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
I said that from the beginning. He's got that natural
eyeliner thing going on, you know what I mean, a
lot of people loved you know. I tried many supplements
to get my eyelashes to be that thick, and nothing works.

Speaker 3 (03:34):
Yeah, so I wear eyeliner, sorry, And that's why I
wear thick mascara.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
That's why use sharpie, because I'm a man who doesn't
know about makeup. Ye do my makeup with magic marker. Yep.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
To quote Christine and the Queens Miles, we are thrilled
to be joined in our third seat by the creator
and co host of the Awebby Award winning podcast Unladylake
and the creator and host of the new podcast Conspiracy.
She wrote, it's Kristin, Hello, welcome back.

Speaker 5 (04:04):
Thanks for having me back.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
Oh, of course, of course, it's good to have you.
It's a I know we were talking about heats in
our respective recording spaces. Is it's Is it already the
temperatures are getting up there for you too? Oh yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (04:19):
I'm I'm in an attic, in an unair conditioned attic
in Atlanta.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
Okay, yeah, you know, no, you shouldn't be there.

Speaker 5 (04:28):
That's my commitment to the pod.

Speaker 4 (04:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
I appreciate that, but get out of there.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
I am, oh my god, in an unair conditioned garage
in the valley where it is so hot. Also just differ. Yeah,
we're all contending with the elements at the moment. But
it's so funny. I was wearing a black T shirt
and then producers just as like, bro, you should maybe
put on like a white tank or something, not a
black shirt like that might And I was like, you're right,

(04:54):
you're right. I need to I need to have as
much as my skin exposed. So this is not my
normal podcasting uniform.

Speaker 6 (05:00):
Will have you know this is it's usually a full
suit and tie, right, yes, absolutely, yeah, of course, of
course we're a black tie podcast, not a basketball jersey
wearing podcast.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
That's right. Well, you have a new show about conspiracies conspiracies. No, no,
let's just yet.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
But it's about conspiracies involving women. It's about conspiracies.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
Spread by women. Yes, which I refuse to acknowledge happens. Yeah,
you're all in on conspiracy misogyny like yes, only men, yes,
only men.

Speaker 5 (05:39):
Only to come up?

Speaker 2 (05:42):
Yeah wait wait so how did you kind of like land?
I mean, I feel like conspiracy is always intersect with
the zeitgeist and things like that, but like, what were
you looking at? And You're like hold on, man, like
this is a completely like we need to be talking
about conspiracies in this completely different way.

Speaker 5 (05:57):
So what I have done basically for my entire podcast career,
I make shows about women, talk about women. I'm always
asking like.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
Where are women?

Speaker 5 (06:08):
What do women have to do with X, Y or z.
So that's my baseline. And in twenty twenty, during like
peak pandemic q andon spread, a friend of mine was
totally q pilled Oh wow, and randomly presented to me

(06:28):
as if I would be interested some very wild QAnon
conspiracy theories. And this was also when I don't know
if you'll remember hashtag saved the Children.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
Oh yeah, and.

Speaker 5 (06:45):
You know Wayfair child trafficking conspiracy theories popping up everywhere.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
And these are the theories that people were trafficking children
via like ordering furniture on Wayfair.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
Yeah, this four thousand dollars is called Natalie.

Speaker 5 (07:02):
Right right right, and Ordinatalie must be a person.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
Because it has child inside. It comes with a free Natalie.

Speaker 5 (07:10):
So that was I mean, that was in not to
be too on the nose, that was in the zeitgeist.
I was really shaken to my core when all of
a sudden it was literally like sitting socially distanced across
from me, and so I asked the question I always ask,
where are where? Like what is going on with women?

(07:32):
And conspiracy theories. Surely there's a bunch here. Because my
like in my mind at the time, the stereotype I
had and it is still somewhat kind of true to form,
is that conspiracy theorists are Alex Jones types, shady Vance types,
you know, just like like angry men yelling, And it

(07:55):
turns out that it's a lot more nuanced than that.
And women and play I think a really essential kind
of gatekeeping role in mainstreaming conspiracy theories, because if we
look just at QAnon, I do not think that it
would have had the like power and spread that it

(08:18):
did if it had not captivated so many women who
then started spreading it through their Instagram feeds and their
mom groups and yoga circles and.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
All of that.

Speaker 5 (08:31):
And it really kind of shined a spotlight on these
kinds of spaces where conspiracy theories can can also thrive
in that kind of you know, spirituality wellness adjacent to
anti vaxer sort of space.

Speaker 3 (08:49):
So that's where I'm here in the right. You're just
looking to fill that hole for a woman conspiracy theorist.
You're going to be the woman Alex Jones got Okay?

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Cool?

Speaker 5 (09:01):
Yeah, Well, actually maybe more like a woman Joe Rogan,
because he's thinking a lot of money. I think Alex
Jones down financial troubles. Yeah, I want to make that
big money and get Netflix special that will not leave
anyone's screens.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
Ever. So I was to watch that to see. I
wanted to see with my own eyes. But then like
this second it started, I was like, I have so
many and I can't do this. It turns out yeah, yeah,
I did not have the fortitude for that, but I
think I might.

Speaker 4 (09:30):
I might.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
I might break later. You know, you never know.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
All right, Christ, We're going to get to know you
a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going
to tell the listeners a couple of the things we're
talking about today. We're going to talk about the deep
steaks have happened, and she picked walls. Maybe she picked walls.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
I was.

Speaker 3 (09:48):
I was relieved. I was like kind of a little
bit surprised, a little giddy.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
Were very surprising.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
We're gonna, yeah, we're going to talk about the pick
you want to win Democrats it feels like they might
want to win, Yes, okay, so we can talk about that.
We're going to talk about how the Republicans are responding.
We're going to talk about jd Vance's childless cat Ladies comment.

(10:16):
Because he made it, it's still kind of resonating out there.
His wife tried to make sense of it, and I
don't think it helped that much. All of that plenty more,
But first, Kristen, we do like to ask our guest,
what is something from your search history that is revealing
about who you are?

Speaker 5 (10:36):
My Google search history result is summer twenty twenty four
nail polish colors, which I'm sure is at the top
of y'all's search history too.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
I already knew. I go into every season knowing what
the color palette is going to be.

Speaker 5 (10:51):
But yeah, you're prepped.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
Wait, yeah, so what's the end? What's what are we?
What's what's the summer? What's the summer for the for
the fingernails?

Speaker 5 (10:59):
And this year so well the summer colors, I mean,
bold red is always in and a lot of honestly,
it's really boring a lot of like pale pinks and
neutrals and then some greens here, I'll shook it. Where's my? Oh,
I don't have my That's what I I went with
a soft green. Yeah, we're like a slightly super shade

(11:23):
than a mint. And what this says about me is
that my new podcast is launching this week. Okay, I'm
talking to you, right, and I've got you know. I'm excited,
but I'm also anxious. And what I do when I'm
both excited and anxious is I paint my nails. I

(11:45):
find a new color, and I paint my nails because
it is the one thing. I'm sure you'll have things
like this where it's like all I can pay attention
to for like ten minutes is just painting these nails.
And it's just a it's just a mind kind of
a mind release, a little a little meditative break for

(12:09):
a moment, and I get a popa color on my nails.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
Yeah, it's like it puts you in a flow state.
It sounds yeah, you know, don't like that, Yeah, yeah,
yeah I do. I mean recently I started like drawing
more and coloring more, which again I think and it's
probably similar to painting your nails because like I'm a
bit of a perfectionist, So like staying in the lines

(12:34):
is like very important. So like having an activity that's
like stay in stay within the lines. And I'm sure
like with It's funny. I remember watching like my mom
or like my grandmother paint her fingernails and like when
they mess up, I'm like, oh God, like I would
be stressed out. You're gonna have to clean that up,
like it's all over your cuticles, and like it comes
off easy, and I'm like, Okay, Well I'm a child
who doesn't know they have perfection. Yeah, ooh you fucked up? Yeah,

(12:59):
can you tay breathing down my neck? Please? But yeah, no,
I have that. And driving. I also like driving that
also a lot, because it, you know, acquires a bit
of skill and focus.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
Like I like to like do laundry fault laundry pick
up ship around the house after my kids, you know, oh,
tidying something, just a little tidying, Yeah, a little bit
of tidying.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
My mom loves doing dishes. She hates cooking. She'll always
be like if I like cooking, She's like, just let
me do the dishes. She's like yeah, she's and she's
really good at cooking too, which is wild. She's like, no,
it's the dishes. I like just like it, you know,
like if she has people over and people are like, oh,
let us help you she's like, no, I want them
all to myself. No, like truly, She's like these are mine?

(13:43):
Like you back up. So yeah, it's it's always interesting
where people find that. But yeah, it's always good to
know what brings that out of you.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
I wish mine was like carving things out of wood
or you know.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
Yeah, but listing.

Speaker 5 (13:59):
House, that's that's so helpful and productive like.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
Mine is not that I'll say that like I have
to like be like do I got to and I'll like,
I'll do it later, and then it piles up and
then yeah, I'm in there for but actually takes a
lot pretty quick to fold things. So yeah, yeah, what
is something you think is underrated?

Speaker 5 (14:20):
All right? I don't want to step on our upcoming
segment about JD Vance, but I gotta say, there's a
lot of talk going on about childless cat ladies these days. Underrated?
Can we hear it from the childless dog ladies?

Speaker 2 (14:32):
Yeah? Yeah, seriously you.

Speaker 5 (14:35):
Better say you better say yes because you're talking to one,
right and I'm here to say that, Yeah, I'm ruining population.
The population as well.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
So you have no sociopath because you have no it's
so what do you say? It's like theopathic because you
have no steak in the future country.

Speaker 5 (14:55):
I have no community. It's only me and my dog.
I don't even talk to my husband, you know, we
I'm just I'm really just stay in this attic and
I'm just waiting for my uterus to wither so that
I can no longer be a contributor to our GDP.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
I care about other people without a biological imperative. It
makes no sense.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
Truly, truly, what's your what breed is your child? We
say that sounds like some slavery shop, like this child?
Yeah something old?

Speaker 3 (15:34):
People ask me and my wife we.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
Have mixed race child? Can I see the teeth?

Speaker 5 (15:43):
I have had to ask my mom to not refer
to me as Brewster's mom, Like Mom, I I I
fully get like I'm a human. He's a dog. He
is like a Maltese poodle mutt. Okay, he just looks
like a like a little mop right right right.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
That sounds adorable that he is. And was it named
after Punky Brewster Brewster's millions.

Speaker 5 (16:08):
I don't know what the inspiration was where like where
it came from, but I like Punky Brewster. I'm gonna
claim yes that they were somehow seated there.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
Yeah, I love Punky. Oh yeah, yeah, I don't know
why I brought up Brewsters Millions often talk about.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
I don't I didn't even like know what Brewster's Millions
is about. But when you said Brewster was Buster's Millions,
like my brain just completed that as Brewster's Millions. The
eighties really wanted children and the elderly to be friends.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
Just yeah, I think.

Speaker 3 (16:44):
About Punky, Punky, mister Mayogi, Doc Brown. It was endless.
There was just special strokes, a special bond between the
elderly and children in the eighties that I don't know
why because we haven't really done it since then, have we.
Has there been like a major film where like the

(17:04):
core relationship was little Miss Sunshine that's a family. Yeah,
that's true, right, but like her and her grandpa. I mean,
it really isn't even about that, but that was like
I was.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
Like her and her grandpa. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah.
Lord of the Rings massive.

Speaker 5 (17:28):
Of Punky Brewster fans, and Lord of the Rings.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
Twighlight, the Ultimate one because of the Age of the
Vampires's age.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
Yeah, it's just more. Yeah, we're still doing age gap relationships.
You're just making them more fantastic. What is something that
you think is overrated? Christmas?

Speaker 5 (17:47):
Okay, controversial take, But Noah Lyles is one hundred meter
Olympic photo finish yesterday I believe to win the gold.
I'm calling it overrated, specifically the photo finish of it
all because it took me too damn long and too
much Google imaging to figure out how how he was

(18:08):
the one who won.

Speaker 7 (18:09):
Because the video of it, yes, yes, and I had
to Google too long to figure out because I'm not
a runner and I didn't know that it's who's ever
chess crosses the line first?

Speaker 2 (18:24):
Not photos of the finish that I've seen don't show
his chest crossing first. I'm like, what the fuck is
happening here? Which of the lines is the line we
are supposed to determine? You know what I mean? Like
it's the I guess what they're saying is like, here's
the first line. This is when Noah Lyles crossed. Okay,

(18:46):
so that's why his is first. This is where Cashane
Thompson's crossed was there so truly like, but it's so
close that it becomes a philosophical question of like what
is chest and like is it the center of your chest,
is it? The shoulders could be seen as top of

(19:09):
chest like the tip of the nip right exactly? Yeah,
what like do we had to put like sensors on
everyone's nipples now to like do you have an agreed
upon can you game it? If you rare your bib higher?
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (19:23):
It is tone some kind of.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
Madonna style, but it's like it's actually very aerodynamic too,
just like you bra, Like what if you just like
padded a sports bra and went out there? Like I
think they do have rules about things like that, but yeah,
well I don't know. Look, it takes someone that.

Speaker 3 (19:44):
I've known, I've learned, and I'm kind of an expert
on this.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
It takes a Donald Trump of Track to really bend
the rules to see what our what our limits are
for folks, what's even happening here?

Speaker 3 (19:53):
But even is a chest exactly when you guys watched
it was there like they cross the line and then
he says Jamaica has it, and then silence for thirty seconds.
Because I saw a replay and there wasn't silence, and
so it made me think that I like got some
sort of defective feed the first time around, but what

(20:15):
do you mean really? Like it was like the guy said,
Jamaica has it, and there were maybe maybe there was
like a sentence or two after that, but it was
like total silence until Noah Lyles like took his thing
off and showed it to the camera and then we
were like, oh, so he like they didn't say he won,

(20:35):
like you had to like put that together. It was
and I was like, oh, did they cut the guy's
mic because he said, did you watch it live?

Speaker 2 (20:43):
Yeah? I watched it live. That's weird. I I didn't
think the feed went out. I just remember that. I
remember hearing commentary in between about how they're now looking
waiting to see like this, Like this must have been close.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
Maybe it was just so tense it shut up like no,
like is there no sound coming in?

Speaker 5 (21:02):
You're asking what is chest?

Speaker 2 (21:04):
Yeah? What what is chest? What is chest? What is chest? Yeah?
It is wild though too to think of just how
close just everyone else behind them was too, Like Red
Curly was also right in there also, and it's like, yeah, dude,
that's sorry, that's a bronze medal and you're like I thought,
I I don't say I felt like I maybe beat

(21:25):
the fastest guy on earth. Maybe not No, you're the
third fastest. Now go sit down.

Speaker 3 (21:30):
It all feels a little it all feels a little arbitrary.
Like there there was a gymnastics floor routine did you
see the gymnastics floor routine medals, where like they gave
what what an American like a score that put her
him forth and then the like as they were getting
ready to go on the podium, like the US coaches

(21:51):
appealed and they were like, actually she's in third now
like this like Romanian girl just got kicked off the podium.
What weeping devastated? Yeah, oh wow, it was high drama
in the Olympics.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
Oh yeah, that's how Jordan Child's got Oh I didn't.

Speaker 8 (22:11):
I didn't even know that. I did not know that.
Wow wow wow wow. Okay, but yeah, it all seems
somewhat arbitrary. But hey, always happy to have a jingoistic
USA medal being more.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
For sure, for sure.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
Yeah, let's take a quick break and we'll come back
and talk about.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
Walls and we're back.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
We're back.

Speaker 3 (22:44):
And word came early yesterday morning that Kamala Harris had
chosen Walls and not Shapiro.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
And yes, big, big, upside, Kelly, it sounded like too
that Shapiro was in third after.

Speaker 3 (23:02):
From sources inside the Harris campaign. That's what people from
the news. Yeah, yeah, that Kelly or.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
But yeah, I think we're all shocked because I think
most of the time, when it comes down to like
the stretch and election years, with something high stakes of this,
you're like, and when will the terrible miscalculation occur? Where
everyone was like, I'm not an expert, but I think
the freaky guy in the Jason mask isn't the best
VP pick. And they then the Teddy Bear, uh, and yeah,

(23:35):
they went with Tim Walls, who again, like a lot
of unions were saying like this is that we like,
we prefer this guy, and a lot of people came
out to sort of voice there really like more came
out to really support their support for Walls and saying
like we don't want Shapiro. But I think it was
interesting to see it's like, oh, so is someone on
the Harris campaign like on the ground of earth, like

(23:58):
talking to regular people and not consultants all the time.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
I was just I was so.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
Fully convinced it was gonna be Shapiro, just based on
you know, a lifetime of seeing the Democrats like be
on their Clintonian triangulation thing, you know, where it's just
always attack to the right to offset any hint of
progressive policy, because progressive policy is a monstrous liability in

(24:29):
the eyes of the mainstream media. And so that became
like there was a lot of energy behind Shapiro. Obviously
he was like the betting favorite. He was the mainstream
media's like chosen pick, or like the one that they
seemed to be like, this is the one that makes
sense because Harris needs to apologize for her sins of
being progressive in the twenty twenty election, right, and it

(24:53):
just feels like the Democratic Party almost always falls for that.
And yeah, just seeing them fall for that year after
year after year, it was it was a big It
was surprising to see them. It's like, are they letting
them do more than like the right thing more than

(25:14):
once in a row?

Speaker 2 (25:16):
Yeah, it seems to be the take of some many
people on Twitter, like two good decisions from the Democratic
Party in a month straight.

Speaker 6 (25:23):
It does feel weird not to like, you know, use
fantastic word already.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
Yeah, yeah, I think these guys are weird. They're doing
the right thing. Over another.

Speaker 5 (25:35):
I really thought that it was going to be Kelly.
I mean partly because of he has some name recognition
and the astronaut factor. But after I listened to an
interview with Walls over the weekend, and now I'm not
surprised at all, because it was I think the first

(25:57):
time that I have ever heard plain spoken progressivism, like
that mix of like midwestern kind of Minnesota nice. But
he's talking about like fully left wing policies, but in
that kind of in a way that I would usually

(26:20):
hear from like a GOP candidate.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
Do you know what I mean? Yeah, right, Like yeah,
really like it's talking about policy without like you're sort
of getting to the heart of policy, without getting into
the wonky bits of policy where I think a lot
of people this is what's also interesting is like the
labeling of like progressive or radical, because like Tim Wallas
is doing a lot of great progressive stuff, Like is
he radical? I wouldn't say he's radical, but again I

(26:43):
think that's what I think. What's good about his appeal
is that he puts a very normal face on stuff
where people like school lunches and he's like, yeah, so
kids can have a full belly so they can learn, like,
you know, like that's his response to attacks like that.
He's like, yeah, so if that's it's like wacky, then sure, dude,
Like I'm fucking wacky because I believe these things. And yeah,

(27:06):
I think that along with his like very just like
laser focused articulation. Even though many people like like have
been talking about how odd and weird the Republicans are,
it was his way of saying it that just stuck
in a way that still has like Republicans on the
defense or they're still like, we're not weird, okay, but
my daughter's objectively the hottest woman on earth right like,

(27:31):
uh huh, okay, go on on.

Speaker 5 (27:34):
The only concern I have that I'm sure a thousand
like armchair pundits are tweeting about right now is that
they just can't it just can't make it the weird campaign,
you know what I mean? And I think I get
the sense that the Harris campaign knows that they have
to be they have to walk a fine line with.

Speaker 3 (27:55):
That, but yeah, you can't just do it over and
over and yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
I think like because I think the fully weird campaign
would have just been a slight evolution on Biden's previous campaign,
which is like democracies on the line, you fuck get
out there, where the same version is like like just
gesturing to Essentially what the Democrats have to do is
just to gesture to their right and be like see that. Hmm.

(28:22):
I don't know policy over here, not going to really
talk about it because that's so weird over there. This
at least rhetorically, is trying to at least sort of
be about values, like with her talking about freedom and
like we're not going back that it still allows them
to kind of draw from that well of being like, well,
we're not them, while also hinting at like some shred

(28:42):
of progress. And I think that's where I think a
lot of people myself include, are like, now let's hear
what these policies are, like what does this and what
is this administration going to stand for? Because that's the
next hurdle that they have to overcome. But I think
picking someone like Walls was really great. And also like
I'm just hearing him talk about like football, You're like,
oh yeah, this guy, like he could even like just

(29:04):
go on some bro podcast talking about how you turned
a high school football team around to like one of
the worst teams ever to like a state champion that
I didn't know that. Yeah, he was like a high
school football coach like before, Like he's he's got like
which is like a local version of an astronaut, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (29:24):
I mean, yeah, I mean he's Friday Night Lights coach Taylor.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
Yeah without the Yeah yeah yeah yeah.

Speaker 5 (29:33):
I only watched a couple of episodes, So you know.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
Is that not where it took place? Was it not
in Minnesota? I think I was thinking Varsity Blues where
John Voight was the coach. Oh yeah, he was a creep.

Speaker 3 (29:47):
He continues to be a creep John Boyd.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
Yeah, yeah, of course, of course. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:51):
But like the so his home town Star Tribune was like,
here's what you can expect from the Republicans. Here, here
are his weaknesses, they say. Expect to hear plenty about
walls of support and signature on a raft of progressive
policies passed by the DFL controlled legislature in twenty twenty three.

(30:13):
In one session, this legislature enshrined abortion rights into the
state constitution, provided free meals for all K through twelve students,
regardless of income, and made Minnesota a sanctuary for those
seeking gender affirming care. But those are abortion rights are
extremely popular, Like free meals for kids is extremely popular.

(30:35):
Like these are the But this is that mainstream media
sort of understanding of how politics works, where everybody is
actually secretly on the inside a centrist Republican, you know,
which doesn't really make sense because if that was the case,

(30:56):
why are none of the why have none of those
centrists for publicans remained in politics anymore?

Speaker 2 (31:03):
Why?

Speaker 3 (31:03):
Yeah, specifically been run out of the entire industry.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
Yeah, he's he's like again, I think the other good
part is that he comes without the sort of like
a lot of baggage that would take over like a
lot of the policy discussion or just administration discussion, like
Wi Shapiro given his comments, especially like with student protesters
and things like that that were protesting against the genocide
and Gaza and things like that, that to have someone

(31:30):
like that where it doesn't immediately come to the forefront
and now like activate sort of like what was kind
of beginning to fracture whatever coalition the Democrats are trying
to build, Like is just like good, Okay, you have
momentum now. I mean, obviously the questions are still going
to be asked of, like you know, what this administration's
policy will be in regards to like Israel and things
like that. But at the end of the day, I

(31:51):
think they they they at least they took a vibe
check and were like, Okay, I think I think this
is We'll keep this going. Plenty of people on Twitter
who just like, they're like, I don't like to treat
you know, uh, politicians like celebrities like, but I loved
him and I just met him four hours ago, and yeah,
And I think it speaks to how deflated a lot

(32:14):
of people felt going into this election prior to Biden
dropping at work. I mean, you know, we were pretty
resigned to being like it could go either way. But
it feels like Trump is firmly in the driver's seat
and this is definitely upended that. And I think because
of that allowed you know, the Harris campaign to look
at who the VP pick was outside of just being like,

(32:36):
we have to win Pennsylvania, because like with the polling
showed a lot of other places suddenly were like, oh,
we're in we have other paths now. It doesn't purely
have to go through Pennsylvania. Although that's obviously a big bonus.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
And also, as we talked about, VP does not secure
their home state most of the time, like it doesn't
make a statistical difference in terms of like bringing the
VP and your performance in that home state. So how
are Trump and his side dealing with Walls? They pretty well,
I'm assuming like they're probably just like, yeah, they're fucking

(33:11):
it up, dude, with how.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
Cool they are. A Kaylee Mcananey, who you know, used
to be the former Press secretary. She was on Fox
being like, oh, they're cheering in mar A Lago and
I was like, and that's where I needed here, Like
Ron Howard's voice pop in. She's like they were actually
crying because like you know, it's I think again for
like for people who hope to Nazee Donald Trump be
president and you're like, oh, this is a pleasant surprise.

(33:35):
This guy goes Like a lot of people are like,
is Comala gonna cave to the left by picking Tim Walls,
And like most you're like, this is this isn't caving
to the left in the way you think it is,
because he clearly has so much more appeal like to
other like the like larger electorate. But when the announcement came.
Trump sent out a fundraising email immediately with this subject header,

(33:57):
Tim Walls will unleash hell on Earth. That's what the
fucking subject was. It goes on it says, quote, He'll
unleash hell on Earth and open our borders to the
worst criminals imaginable. He'll rubber stamp Kamala's green new scam
and like trillions of dollars on fire. But the real killer,

(34:17):
he's already pulled in millions in dirty cash to buy
the White House. None of this makes sense, Like what
dirty cash about the White House? He's a rubber stamp.
You say that about a congress person. He has no vote,
so what is he rubber Like? That's it. That's that's
an attack you put on someone who just will vote
in whatever policies of But he's the vice Okay, sure,

(34:38):
Well it's.

Speaker 5 (34:39):
Just I like the selective use of all caps because
it is all caps hell on Earth.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
Yeah, that's it's.

Speaker 5 (34:44):
True talking about here, and it's just kind of an
ai madlibs of Fox News buzzwords.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
Right. Yeah. Some people were pointing out, I think it
was in the Daily Beast. They're like, it feels like
this truly was a mad lib or like whoever the
pick was, they were just gonna be like Josh Shapiro
will Unleash Hell on Earth, Mark Kelly will Unleash Hell
on Earth, like that was all they had. And then
you're like Tim Walls, like the guy we've seen like

(35:14):
holding like hugging a pig and like hanging out with
his dog, the guy who is like a high school
teacher and football coach. And then like you know, there's
this image of when he signed that school lunch bill,
like where he's surrounded by smiling children who are like
like genuinely excited to be near him, and you're like
this guy him hell on Earth for who? So this

(35:37):
is definitely not like the coastal like lib they were
prepared for and that they really the only VP person
that they were even prepared to talk about was Kamala
So you know, even like the latest polling from like
Republican Polsters has Trump losing more ground to Harris and
like now they're like in a statistical tie in Pennsylvania.

(35:58):
So he's there aren't a lot of wins coming for
Donald Trump, and that's probably why he had to come
up with a new terribly scathing insult for Kamala, which
feels like a bit from Arrested Development. I hate to
keep evoking arrested Development here, but he says people vote
with their stomach and food is now at an all

(36:20):
time high because Comma blah Biden incompetence, Comma blah, okay,
And you're like, what with them in charge, it will
only get worse? And most you're like, this is one
of these like adderall typos or something. What the fuck
is this? Then he goes on next paragraph, Kama Blah
has stated over and over again that she wants to

(36:41):
defund the police and without question ben fracking, no more
fossil fuel. This will quadruple the cost of energy in America.
Depression anyone, not a question, but a stag depression anyone?
Depression anyone?

Speaker 5 (36:56):
Okay, saying the quiet part out loud at that point.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
The president anyway, cammlah blah, Harris, Comma blah Harris is
afraid to debate me on Fox News. Comma blah is
the worst VP. That's what's in the tank right now
for them.

Speaker 3 (37:13):
Yeah blah commah blahs blah bloc.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
Yeah is where.

Speaker 5 (37:20):
It is so just dog whistley racist to my ears
and eyes. And I'm not surprised that this new, searing,
new attack of Comma Blah came right on the heels
of his appearance last week at the National Association of

(37:42):
Black Journalists, Right if she questioned her identity and just
lost his fucking mind on camera? Yeah, and uh yeah,
I like, what what is that even suppose is that
supposed to be like Comma.

Speaker 9 (37:56):
Blah like blah? Is that what he's trying to get across?
I think that's like such her look isn't hitting. She's
very blah. She's she's not stunning me right now.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
I mean he doesn't. It's all it really like, it's
hard to make sense of what it is because it
used to be what crazy Kamala Lion Kamala laugh like laughing,
and you're like what art Like, huh these all sound
like like cool people to hang out with you laughing. Kamala. Yeah,

(38:29):
she's crazy. Yeah, she's crazy. She's the lion. Lion actually
has more teeth to it than Comma Blah. But again,
that's why I think, you know, his worst instincts are
just going to get even worse because he's trying. He's like, Okay,
it sounds like the racist misogyny isn't doing as well

(38:49):
as I thought, So what about Kama blah? And then
he'll probably be like fuck it, I'm going I'm just
gonna go radioactive meltdown and just just continue with like
the new Birther rhythm. Shit.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
Yeah, is the food thing? Like the food thing seems
like a potentially good angle for him to not I
mean bad for Democrats, but you know, it's that that
is something that's noticeable, is that food's more expensive now
than it used to be. But he immediately dropped that
defund the police, ben fracking.

Speaker 5 (39:20):
Well you got free lunch guy now on the ticket.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
Yeah, exactly, he wants to lunch. He does look a
little bit like, uh, the Big Lebowski, like the old
old Lebowski. Real men men also crying.

Speaker 3 (39:35):
That's my that's my one concern for him. Looks too
much like old Lebowski.

Speaker 5 (39:40):
What will be Trump's nickname for Tim Waltz, because it
does I feel like that one is rich for you know,
Tim is a very rhymeable name. He got Walls Walts.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
I mean Tim, I don't know. And he's like not
a tool.

Speaker 5 (39:55):
Of a man who children like to hug Tim y.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
Oh, no, you're like Santa. What it's like, people, that's.

Speaker 3 (40:04):
Something that you still believe in in your age, in
your age, coolhort, isn't it?

Speaker 2 (40:09):
Ever?

Speaker 3 (40:09):
When he was like talking to a twelve year old, like,
that's something you're interested in.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
Right right, I'll patch you on the head like a
dog now because I know how to be around kids.
I mean, like, but to the point with the high growth,
like the food prices, the FTC, I believe yestera Or
on Monday announced that they are going to investigate food
prices at major grocery stores just to be like, what,
like what are y'all doing? Like what's going on? So yeah,
they at least, I mean, I think that would probably

(40:34):
the response from Democrats is like that is something they're
looking into. But then at the same time, would Donald
Trump said and be like, we need to rein in
these corporate profits. They are breeding us dry with these
food prices, because again, it's easier to just be like
Kamala Harris wants the food prices to be high, and
that works with most people who are not thinking critically

(40:56):
at all, and sure like it doesn't matter what he says,
because they'll always him, but to anyone else, they're like, like, well,
from but who benefits from high proof And like it's
like Kamala Harris made a bunch of money off food
prices being high. Those are the companies that sell the
food and make the food that are that are reaping
those profits. So yeah, it'll it's it sounds like it's
still a very very shaky time over there. But again,

(41:19):
this is what scares me is that this makes it
for me so much more of a realistic thing now
that they will the Republicans will do anything possible to
subvert the whatever the outcome is, Like if it if
it does end up that Kamala Harrison to Walls end
up winning, that feel like this feels like they're really
going to prepare. That's the outcome they're preparing for. It

(41:41):
doesn't matter anymore. And the fact that like all of
their usual attacks aren't working just feels like that's just
gonna put more investment in the subversion part of it,
the delaying part, the refusal to certify results part of
it that I think has like true potential to be
really fucking chaotic.

Speaker 3 (42:00):
Yeah, which, and we talked about yesterday that a democratic
election official was like, and they are somehow like more
prepared for this than the Democrats, even though the Democrats
are in power.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
They I don't think the comment was that they were
more prepared compared to the Democrats, but compared to twenty twenty,
when it was like this scattershot thing of being like,
we don't like this is someone do you know someone
there that can gum it up? Where now they're like,
we have people in place to fuck it up, right, right, but.

Speaker 5 (42:29):
Yeah, basically getting lawsuits lined up to file and to
stop yeah count.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
And I think observers are like from the Democrats side
to are just as aware of like you know, you'd think,
I don't think they're going to get caught off guard,
but who knows. Maybe the vibes are so good they're
like and they're just gonna have to accept that people
love Tim and Kamala and we'll move on. But the
way they keep talking to their audience is still like

(42:56):
we're only losing if they steal the election, and yeah
that's and plus like I it's true, like you look
at like Jared Holt, who comes on the show a lot,
who does a lot of like right wing like observing
and analysis and monitoring. He's like, he's like the thing
that's also kind of wild is like the maga world
is truly kind of like fuck yeah, like have are

(43:19):
we like behind now? Yeah? And how that manifests or
metastasizes into something more sinister. I think that is yet
to be seen, or maybe that's just part of the
playbook we have not has not been revealed to us
from the Republicans yet. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (43:34):
The statement from the Democratic election lawyer Mark Lis to
Rolling Sport, I think we're going to see mass refusals
to certify the election. Everything we were seeing about this
election is that the other side is more organized, more ruthless,
and more prepared. So whether that's in comparison to the
Democrats or in comparison the last time, it's.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
Bad either way.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
Yeah, yeah, I mean again, and this just the the
L after L that is being like taken just feels
like another reason for them to go like fuck it all,
like fuck it all, like fuck, who gives a fuck?
Like this is like we're too invested in like this
fantasy takeover that they've been that's been swimming in their
heads since last fall pretty much when and I think.

Speaker 5 (44:17):
That the all the right wing weaponizing Biden stepping down.
How it's a kamalakup. I mean that is also playing
into this, you know, denihilism, which if you know, obviously
if Democrats when because that's the other thing. The vibes

(44:38):
feel very positive right now for this hot second on
the left. But it's not like she's run away with
anything at the polls.

Speaker 2 (44:46):
Yes, yeah, exactly exactly, And we'll see what this VP
pick does and how that affects things. But yeah, like
it is true. I think that's what's also just weird
is it's been what a lot of like fuck since
like twenty fifteen, basically, you know, because like even with Biden,
it was like yeah, man, like we just got to
fucking get this fucking guy out. Man Like, yeah, fine,

(45:08):
it's Biden, whatever, you fucking stop this, yeah, pinch my nose. Yeah,
And people were fully prepared to do that again. And
now like for it to be like wait, like the
kids are fucking with this. You got like you got
more unions getting behind this. There's a lot there's just
that it. Yeah, that level of positivity has been not
I feel like it hasn't been this sort of tangible

(45:31):
in a really long time. Yeah, but I don't know.

Speaker 3 (45:34):
If Trump continues to call her coma blah, I feel
like we're in trouble. I yeah, yeah, you know, she's
not stunning, she's failing to wow with her look like
is that what he means blah?

Speaker 2 (45:47):
Like I don't know, man.

Speaker 5 (45:49):
Well, and it's kind of contradictory to how what a
what a radical she is?

Speaker 2 (45:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (45:54):
Right?

Speaker 5 (45:55):
Can you be like a radical a blah radical?

Speaker 2 (46:00):
That's right? Yeah, it's like are you a threat or
are you uninteresting? Because you can't like sort of drum
up this like these feelings of like imminent danger. If
it's like, oh, there's comma blog.

Speaker 3 (46:13):
It's such a childish it's like during while someone's talking, being.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
Like woo me me, me, me me me, Yeah, yeah,
being like you're boring.

Speaker 3 (46:24):
It's what my six year old does. Oh it's so bored. Anyway,
all right, let's take a quick break. We'll be right back.

(46:44):
And we're back and the other VP pick on the
other side of jd Vance has gotten less enthusiasm online
than I think they were hoping for. Definitely less than
walls Where where I'm looking before? Are you looking?

Speaker 2 (47:04):
So?

Speaker 3 (47:04):
His twenty twenty one comment about childless cat ladies like
Kamala Harris AOC and Pete Boudhajeg has kind of become
a rallying cry for Democrats, So he's he's like just
feels like he's constantly in damage control.

Speaker 2 (47:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (47:22):
He tried to go on Megan Kelly's show last week
or her podcast, I should say, and claimed that his
casual misogyny was only directed at Democrats, not.

Speaker 2 (47:35):
Not any other catleid. Just those three they're bad. Yeah, yeah,
they're sociopaths. Not our cat not our beloved cat ladies. Yeah,
not you guys.

Speaker 3 (47:46):
He just has the energy of someone who's been given
just endless benefits of the doubt his entire lifefe and
he's just like, yeah, no, I said that thing about
cat ladies, but not you, babe. I was like talking
about other cat laid who don't like have kids, but
not you, even though that describes you, and like, up

(48:07):
to this point in his life, it's just like worked
out for him. Yeah, so you can just kind of
ride with it. But it feels like he's kind of
pissed off a lot a lot of people. Reportedly, forty
seven percent of adults over fifty without kids say that
they're unlikely to have them, and sixty four percent of
young women who don't have kids say that they simply

(48:30):
don't want them. And this is just another example where
the GOP are clearly the hot dog meme guy just
being like somebody crashed through that window in a hot
dog truck because Republicans have been slashing federal funds for

(48:50):
childcare and education and then complaining about people who choose
not to have kids.

Speaker 5 (48:57):
Yeah, and also we have to mention the like maternal
health prenatal health impacts of Roe v. Wade being overturned
all of their policies. I mean, women are scared to
even even if they might want kids, they are probably
scared to even try because if there's a pregnancy complication,

(49:19):
like you might not be able to get help right now.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
Like I was just like hearing from like in Texas
too that because of the laws there, like a lot
of OB's are not practicing in the state, and that
is leaving a lot of like like people who are
like like thinking of pregnancy. Like, dude, there's like an
OB I can't see for like another six months because
there's like they're only one in for miles around because

(49:44):
so many people are afraid of what the laws are
going to do if anything happens under their care. That now, yeah,
like to your point, it's like prenatal care is like
coming out of premium in certain states because of just
like the lack of access to even doctors who are
like I'm the risk is just too fucking high for
me to even practice fucking medicine, which is obscene. But yeah, again,

(50:05):
please tell us about how this is the party that
you want to, you know, help families and it's not
about just going backwards in time to control people's bodies
like that that surely can't be it surely right.

Speaker 3 (50:19):
And just to like say the quote up top, this
is this is what he said. He said, we're effectively
running this country via the Democrats, via our corporate oligarchs,
by a bunch of childless cat ladies who are miserable
at their own lives and the choices that they've made,
and so they want to make the rest of the
country miserable too.

Speaker 2 (50:37):
Who are the.

Speaker 5 (50:38):
Childless cat ladies in power?

Speaker 3 (50:40):
He's claiming Kamala Harris, because she's a step mom, is
a childless cat lady.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
Right, and that kids don't count right, kids don't fucking count.

Speaker 5 (50:52):
Yeah, does she own a cat?

Speaker 2 (50:55):
Maybe irrelevant because it's like again, it's like all this
like perceptions. I don't know, dude, I don't even know
she's got I've never seen her with a baby. She's
one of these like bad people Pete buddhaj Edge because
he's gay, but he has each they have a child,
So I don't know where that goes. But again, I
think it's just merely just to be like lumping people

(51:15):
together to be like, you know, like gay liberals or
AOC types of people who think they can, you know,
go to Harvard and then talk bad about me. They're
the bad ones. They are the ones that we really
did look at. But I think, like, statistically, it is
an odd comment to make because a lot of people
are like, let's crunch the numbers real quick on the

(51:37):
cat lady thing, like does this does this have an
effect on electability, like in a measurable way. So it's
like in Arizona, where Trump only lost by ten thousand
votes in twenty twenty, reportedly two hundred and thirty six thousand,
seven hundred of the state's voters have cats, and at
least ten thousand of them are women, So what are

(52:00):
you gonna do now, Like in Pittsburgh, the second most
populous city in Pennsylvania, nearly nine percent of women have cats.
And yeah, like then there's like, well, I think we
talked about this when he first said it, like the
swifty thing, because everyone's like, our godhead is a cat
loving person without children.

Speaker 3 (52:19):
We have actual she must hate America. Yeah, she doesn't
have any reason to want the future to continue, want
America to continue into the future.

Speaker 2 (52:30):
Yeah, a kid. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I mean,
what do you think, just generally, do you think cat
people or dog people are more politically engaged if you
had to, if we had to make a generalization. I'm
just trying to think because I like, I don't want
to be like, I don't know. I feel like cat
owners might be pretty savvy.

Speaker 5 (52:47):
Yeah, as as a childless dog lady. I and this
is no reflection on myself in my own political engagement,
of course, but I think cat I think cat ladies.

Speaker 2 (52:58):
I think cat Yeah, cat people. Yeah, the cat people
would be like hold on, man, Like I'm I pay
attention to things.

Speaker 5 (53:07):
I like it, and they're like, I have this pet
because I can leave it for extended period, can poop
on its own, Like I can just leave a big
old dish of food out, It'll portion itself out. Like
you know, they they're thinking ahead.

Speaker 3 (53:22):
They're not using that freedom to just go out and
like vote constantly and get out the vote, knock on doors.

Speaker 5 (53:29):
Oh yeah, I was finny to vote, but I've gotta
have my dog.

Speaker 2 (53:32):
Yeah, if that might be the new thing. They start saying,
like dog people are the real Americans and like pitting
cat and dog, and it's like what if you have
both both? No such thing, there's no such thing. It's
in either or situation in America.

Speaker 3 (53:46):
One Taylor Swift fan chillingly claimed that jd Vance has
quote secured his own demise, which like I love, yeah,
talking like more terrifying than like an offended you know
Taylor Swift or you know just yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
Yeah. They're organized, they get organized, they get organized, and
they're vocal. But then like there's also this thing too
where obvious this had a ton of fallout because people
like what the fuck, Like this just again shows how
regressive and like one dimensional like Republicans thinking are just
like on any person that lives in this country that
his wife, Usha had to go do like a like

(54:28):
a very controlled interview on Fox because obviously, like that's
what that's there for. It's like, let's pretend this is spontaneous,
but merely this is a platform for you to rebut
something terrible that your husband said. This is her talking
about like what this is what? Lets let me just
explain JD really quick. And I don't know if this

(54:49):
makes much more sense, but again, this is Usha Vance
talking to Ainsley Earhart on Fox about what the cat
lady comment actually meant.

Speaker 10 (54:58):
There are a few comments that are out there I
have to ask you about. In twenty twenty one, j
D said, we are effectively run by a bunch of
childless cat ladies taking aim at government leaders who don't
have children.

Speaker 11 (55:10):
What was your reaction, Well, I mean I took a
moment to look and actually see what he had said
and try to understand what the context was and all that,
which is something that I really wish people would do
a little bit more often. And the reality is he
made equipment service of making a point that he wanted
to make that was substantive and it had actual meaning.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
This is such a like lawyer preamble that like my
hairs are standing, uk, I get it. Yale edged like
you're such a Yale educated lawyer that you first start
up like it's really important that like we're able to
like look at the context of like, okay, what the
fuck all everybody listening to this should be ashamed of
themselves just off off job, yeah, yeah, okay, go on,

(55:52):
go on, counsel.

Speaker 11 (55:53):
And I just wish sometimes that people would talk about
those things and that we would spend a lot less
time just sort of.

Speaker 3 (56:00):
Going through.

Speaker 11 (56:02):
This three word phrase or that three word phrase, because
what he was really saying is that it can be
really hard to be a parent in this country, and
sometimes our policies are designed in a way that make
it even harder. Oh, and we should be asking ourselves
why is that true? What is it about our leadership
and the way that they think about the world that
makes it so hard sometimes for parents? And that's the
conversation that I really think that we should have. And

(56:23):
I understand why he was saying that.

Speaker 2 (56:25):
Okay, wait, first of all, motherfuck.

Speaker 3 (56:30):
He was saying that he was like trying to big
up the welfare state, like he was trying to get
people like parents more help. That was what he was like,
we should give people more paid leave. That's just time
on child tax credits, expanding child tax credits. I did
not see that at all. We need her to like read,

(56:52):
do more readings. That was like a psychic reading level,
like stretch.

Speaker 5 (56:58):
Right.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
Actually, so here's if you look at the first letter
in each of the words and then you create a
word scramble out of those, right, then yeah, it's like that.

Speaker 3 (57:10):
That couldn't have been further from the general vibe of
what he was saying.

Speaker 5 (57:16):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm also unclear how a the childless
cat ladies, but also I'll even toss in the corporate oligarchs,
like how's that making your day to day life as
a dad really hard? Because I'm also gonna guess jd
Vance is doing minimal childcare.

Speaker 2 (57:35):
I don't think he's Oh did you hear that quote
about shut the hell up about Pokemon? No, he says, dude, yes,
hold on. He was on the fucking bro podcast, the
Full Send podcast, where Tucker Carlson was talking about his
love of fucking zin pouches. Oh yeah, oh, this shit
is wild because again jd Vance fucking sucks. So this

(57:56):
is him like surrounded by like that like weird fucking Seltzer,
like happy Dad or whatever the fuck it's called, like
happy Dad Seltzers. And he's talking about how he missed,
like the call from Trump that he was going to
be the VP because his kid just this is this
is this is how he tries to relate to some
like childless dudes.

Speaker 12 (58:17):
So hey, I'm like, oh no, So I call Trump
and I'm like, hey, sir, what's going on.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
He's like, jad, you.

Speaker 12 (58:24):
Missed a very important phone call and now I'm gonna
have to pick somebody else. And I'm you know, I
like tense up and almost have a heart attack. And
the crazy thing about it is my son, who's seven,
is in the hotel room with me, and he's really
into Pokemon cards right now. He's going through a Pokemon phase.
Are you guys into Pokemon back.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
In the day. Yeah, that's a big phase right now,
I think in general? Yeah yeah.

Speaker 12 (58:44):
So, I mean he's really into it. So he's trying
to talk to me about Pikachu and I'm on the
phone with Donald Trump and I'm like, son, shut the
hell up for thirty seconds about Pikachu. Is the most
important phone call in my life? Please just let me
take this phone call.

Speaker 5 (58:58):
So wow, such a cool guy. I mean, he's he's
so funny. All those guys are so funny.

Speaker 2 (59:05):
Yeah. Like his way to like relate to is like, hey, man,
I can be a dismissive absent father too. You can
get my kids. Man.

Speaker 5 (59:14):
Don't you know he doesn't say hell? You know, he
said shut the fuck up?

Speaker 2 (59:19):
Right? Hey, why don't you shut the fuck up about Pikachu?
Do you know how important I am? Do you know
how important I am? Go on, mister president. Yeah, I
got him to shut the fuck up about right you also, sorry, man,
he's talking about all the evolutions. But yeah, like so
you don't think he's an involved dad that guy? Can
you shut that?

Speaker 3 (59:39):
But he's just again he would you get this little
fucker out of here talking about Pokemon or whatever?

Speaker 2 (59:45):
Or you think he does a thing where he's like, hey,
your son's talking about Pokemon again and bothering dad. You
are one thousand, you know what I mean? That old
that old move that I've heard before, Like you're.

Speaker 5 (59:56):
You sound like your mother?

Speaker 2 (59:57):
Yeah yeah, talking about that or expanded child tax care
credit child care credits, or you know how difficult it
is for people to be like, it's so funny. Again,
all of these things are so much tied to quality
of life, and like the social safety nets we have
in the United States, which again the Republicans are for
destroying all of them, we need we need an expansion

(01:00:18):
on these kinds of programs, like you know, like at
a minimum, like what about a living wage? Like that
also affects people's calculus. Why would it's very difficult to
even want to have a child, to bring a child
into the world when you yourself are struggling to have your
most basic needs met. So to have that come from
a party that stands for making life as hard as

(01:00:39):
possible for everyone except billionaires, it's like you're talking absolute horseshit.
And I think that's why, like everyone just kind of
sees he just has this like vibe of like trying
to reflect like whatever he thinks that people around him
are gonna want to hear. So it's like, all right,
I don't lean back. We're talking about zim pals and stuff.
They're gonna love how I'm like, dude, shut up about Pokemon,

(01:01:01):
am I right? Guys? Yeah? And then like deep, then
like what he takes his clown makeup, but like off
at night. Every night he's just crying in the mirror
because he's like, yeah, become this aberration. I don't know
what it takes.

Speaker 3 (01:01:12):
His happy clown makeup off and there's a sad clown
makeup underneath. She has the same thing that Ivanka. Ivanka
is the daughter, right, not Ivanka.

Speaker 2 (01:01:26):
Had remember who he's married to.

Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
It's a right in which one of those Yeah, there's
like this cognitive dissonance where they just like have a box,
like a black box in their head where like horrifying policy,
like authoritarian white supremacist policy goes in and like out
comes this like weird reinterpretation that makes it a like

(01:01:50):
progressive policy that they can like live with. Like I
remember her doing that like in speeches back before she
was like distanced herself from the whole operation. But yeah,
that was that was a stretch, Yeah, to be like, Yeah,
I think what he meant was it's hard to be
a parent and the government doesn't help us enough. Well,

(01:02:12):
what do you think he wants more paid parental leave
and more support for parents?

Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
You want this to be the literal nanny state? Right? Okay,
my god, then bring it.

Speaker 5 (01:02:25):
And she's kind of just advertising him as a really
shitty communicator, because what she had to say over and
over again was well, if you if you look at
the context, what do you really meant to say?

Speaker 6 (01:02:39):
What?

Speaker 5 (01:02:39):
You know? What I mean, like, she's having to translate
for him because apparently he is such a poor communicator,
not even off the cuff. When you are writing something
so practiced and publishing it on X that you then
need to have someone like backfill that. Right, No, that's

(01:03:00):
not really working, but it does. I mean, I do
love ano. You know the trope of the wife who
has to translate for her misogynistic husband. He is carrying
on that tradition.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
Yeah, like, which might be the most relatable thing. It's like, yeah,
I'm related, I'm married to a ship bag. Can y'all relate?

Speaker 1 (01:03:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
Am I right?

Speaker 1 (01:03:24):
Lady?

Speaker 2 (01:03:25):
All the women at the Republican rally, Yeah, she's doing
open mic ship She's like, these guys are fucking babies?
Am I right? Ladies? They're like, he can't even heat
up milk? What the fuck is wrong with this guy?
I don't know, but yeah, I mean like that's funny
the milk again.

Speaker 5 (01:03:42):
Also three word phrases calling in a three word phrase,
all of the three, you know, the different three word phrases, just.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
Like, yeah, what are the other three? I'm like, what else?
Lumping like before that is like, you guys are just weird.
Certified couch fucker, Yeah, certified couch fucker. Yeah, it's just like, yeah,
convicted sex offender. You know, these are just three word
phrases that are meant to completely rob us of any context.

(01:04:11):
And what my husband meant to say is we need
more social safety net programs or parents and we need
to actually have an emphasis on prenatal care for expecting parents.
That's all. That's all. Oh is that not on the platform? Okay, okay,
well then you got me.

Speaker 3 (01:04:27):
Well, kristin such a pleasure having you on the show.
Where can people find you? Follow you all that good stuff?

Speaker 5 (01:04:34):
People can find me? I'm gonna say follow conspiracy. She wrote, Yeah, yeah,
go listen to that brand new podcast It's conspiracy. She
wrote on TikTok and Instagram, and you can also follow
me at unladylike media. This was so fun. Thanks for

(01:04:55):
having me.

Speaker 3 (01:04:57):
Yeah, and is there a work of media that you've
and enjoy?

Speaker 5 (01:05:00):
Okay, I have a recommendation for on Tim Waltz. My
introduction to Tim Walls, if you want a really great
conversation with him, is the recent Ezra Cline Show interview
with him. This is such a dorky plug, I know,

(01:05:21):
but the episode title is is Tim Walls the Midwestern
dad Democrats Need? And I'm recommending it because I had
I really had no idea this guy was before I
listened to it, and by the end of it, I
was contemplating should I move to Minnesota?

Speaker 2 (01:05:40):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:05:42):
Minnesota is having a moment right now, like Minneapolis for sure.
Like I've been I've been eyeing Minneapolis with a little,
you know, twinkle in my eye of all the bike lanes,
all the just I keep hearing the great control the
gun for kids. Yeah, yeah, what is this bullshit?

Speaker 5 (01:06:04):
So I'd like, I'd like to recommend Minnesota. Actually, that's
the beast of media.

Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
Amazing. Miles. Where can people find you as their working
media you've been enjoying? Yeah, find me on Twitter and
Instagram at Miles of Gray. You can also find Jack
and I on our basketball podcast, Miles and Jack Got
Mad boost these. You can find me talking ninety day
Fiance on four twenty Day Fiance. Oh and guess what.
I'm on the latest episode of the Illustrious Lacey mostly

(01:06:30):
Scam Goddess podcast, So you'll catch me on Scam Goddess again.
For people, I people think we have beef Lacey. It's
gonna be for this some people.

Speaker 4 (01:06:40):
Dude.

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
I kind of message the other day it's like Hey,
It's like it's like, is everything okay with you and Lacey?
And I was like, Lacy is very busy. She's what
we call popping. Yeah. So as much as I would
like to have her be a regular guest, sometimes we
got a pencil on the schedule, but no rest a shirt.
She will be back. She's just just doing really well
and we love to see that. So a couple of

(01:07:03):
tweets I like. First one is from at Platini Underscore
nine to five four that says the craft was just
juice for goth girls and I'm like, yep, I totally
feel that. Another one is from at four to twenty
Weed Team tweeted no, babe, I like yours, you actually
have a huge advantage. At Pole Vaulting, and then at

(01:07:27):
Girl Draws Ghost tweeted nobody, and then RFK Junior I
stole screws from the Challenger. The amount of RFK junior
weird tweets that have come out are fucking next level,
all because the guy was just trying to take home
some baby.

Speaker 3 (01:07:46):
Bear, just taking home some baby bear meat. Some yikes,
you know.

Speaker 2 (01:07:50):
Young, very normal, very normal, very normal.

Speaker 3 (01:07:54):
I was showing my kids and my nephews the Challenger
video today to give further context than that. No, they
just asked me. I don't know why. I guess they
like they hurt. They're like, Dad, can we see the
Challenger disaster?

Speaker 2 (01:08:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:08:09):
And I was like sure. And then my sister got
home and your kids were like, we watched the Challenger
video and she was like, I guess that's what uncles
are for. They knew what was gonna happen. And my
oldest nephew was like, yeah, it happened seventy two seconds in,
but they knew what happened, So I figured might as well.

Speaker 2 (01:08:28):
They're acting like yo, put that Ninja Turtles tape on,
Like the kids aren't like, yeah, go go to seventy
two seconds in. Yeah, yeah, go to go to the
fifth frame, yeah right there, right rings Yeah wow.

Speaker 3 (01:08:39):
Anyways, bad bad uncle, bad dad.

Speaker 2 (01:08:43):
Well I couldn't get them to shut the fuck up
about Pokemon.

Speaker 3 (01:08:46):
I had to you want you want more of this?

Speaker 2 (01:08:49):
I'm about to be on a podcast. Can you shut
that hell up about Pokemon? For here? Watch the Challenger video.

Speaker 3 (01:08:54):
You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien.
A couple of tweets I've been in joying. Cooper Lawrence tweeted,
oh you want a gold medal at the Olympics. My
watch just congratulated me for standing up, and then David
Lynch tweeted, ladies and gentlemen, yes, I have emphysema from

(01:09:15):
my many years of smoking. I have to say that
I enjoyed smoking very much, and I do love tobacco,
the smell of it, lighting cigarettes on fire, smoking them.
But there's a price to pay for this enjoyment, and
the price for me is emphazima. I've now quit smoking
for over two years. Recently, I have many tests and
the good news is that I'm in excellent shape except
for emphysema. I'm filled with happiness and I will never retire.

(01:09:38):
I want you all to know that I really appreciate
your concern.

Speaker 2 (01:09:40):
Love David Wow. I liked the.

Speaker 3 (01:09:43):
Statement involving him just being like God smoking as great as.

Speaker 2 (01:09:48):
Yo, and I knew and I knew, I knew someone
would come with it, and it did. But I still like,
I like, how just describe it like a cigarette, lighting
it on fire, smoking repeatedly, let the nicotine be absorbed
through my lungs.

Speaker 5 (01:10:04):
Okay, do you think he's now a zen guy? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:10:08):
I know, David Zinch.

Speaker 3 (01:10:13):
There's a promo op that's right all right. You can
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Speaker 2 (01:10:26):
Our episodes and our foot Nope, no where. We link
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Speaker 3 (01:10:29):
Information that we talked about in today's episode, as well
as a song that we think you might enjoy.

Speaker 2 (01:10:34):
Miles with song. Do you think people might enjoy? This
is a track from a German band I just started
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you can nod your head to kind of vibes, and
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Speaker 3 (01:11:02):
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afternoon to tell you what is trending.

Speaker 2 (01:11:18):
And we'll talk to you all then. Bye bye