In this edition of Trend Z Says Instagram Likes Are Microcheating, Miles and special guest host Chris Crofton discuss instagram likes = microcheating?, the Supreme Court allowing emergency abortions in Idaho… oh, and bribes, Kevin Costner's new movie 'Horizon', Ruben Ostlund's next film 'The Entertainment System Is Down' and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello everybody, and welcome to this Thursday edition. Oh trend
Z says Instagram likes are micro cheating. When I'm Miles
Gray and I'm here joined by my guest co.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Host Chris crofton Illo pleasure to be here.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Look this first story, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
It sounds like younger people are now trying to describe
liking a micro cheating. Now. This is an intern as
the Washington Post describes, an Internet era term for small
act of betrayal.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Now, this is something to do with something like, you know,
maybe liking a bikini photo of someone else. Is it harmful?
Is it harmless? Who knows?
Speaker 1 (00:47):
But I think because we're all in this new era
where you can interact so much digitally, we have a
new way of I guess we got a new term now,
micro cheating, which is.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Oh, okay. This is interesting, Miles, because some times, you know,
when you can see your friend's likes, like on Instagram,
you know what I mean, and you suspect some you
meet somebody and like you meet their husband and you
think he seems like a creep, and then you are
also being a creep. But you're single, so it's okay.
So you're like so you're like, like me, like, I'm single,
(01:19):
So I'm like looking at like some bikini lady has
like one hundred billion followers, you know, right, and then
you see the sad fuckers that put a like on
their shit, like hoping that she will pick.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Their like to like be like I want to have
sex with you or whatever.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
They you'll see.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Some guy you're like, oh, people will like.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
This, and it's like a billion likes, and then it
says people you know, and it shows that dude. It's
like that dude, and it's like those dudes are so
horny and desperate, and so I think I don't know,
I don't know if it's cheating, but I think it's
an indicator. I think if you see somebody putting their
like on some.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Yeah, it's first, especially.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
When they're sixty thousand likes and you picture this guy
was a family being, like I like this.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
I Also I see people though, too, like scroll Instagram
and they like it. I know, people just like everything
like on the thing, which is so too yeah yeah,
and not even defending them. Like I remember catching a
frame like are you just liking every photo you see?
It's like, yeah, man, my friends and stuff it's like.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Living on like honey, that's why. That's why I thought,
you know, that's why you think you have a career,
and then you find out you don't when you go
on a tour, You're like, fuck this many likes, I'm
gonna book fucking Carnegie.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Hall, I'm too fucking Stintyre, or I just don't like.
I just never thought of like the feedback loop of
like reward of like or whatever. Anyway, uh So, micro cheaters, beware,
there is a new term for you liking thirst trap
pictures or you know, leaving comments with the most part
et cetera. Next thing, Supreme Court one of your favorite topics, Chris,
(02:48):
Uh Well, So as it stands, I know they shot
down on an EPA measure that would have kept the
air clean. I haven't fully dove into what that was,
but the main things that we saw as they wrap
up their last session, they are allowing emergency abortions in Idaho.
But the only reason is they said they're not actually
(03:09):
going to rule on the merits quite yet, So that's
not We're not fully out of the water with that
case where you know, they were saying that someone has
to be on the brink of death in that state
before an emergency abortion could be performed. But another thing
they also were seemingly gave the green light to our bribes.
There was a yeah, local mayor who basically bought a
(03:31):
bunch of trash trucks for about a million dollars, and
then that company gave him a nice little thirteen thousand
dollars donation after the fact. People are like, that seems
like a tip for tet interaction there. He said, it
was a gratuity, much in the same way you know
that people are given plaques for their service from interest
groups and things like that. Well, Kavanaugh, writing for the
(03:54):
Conservative majority, said that the question in the case was,
quote whether federal law makes it a crime for date
and local officials to accept such gratuities after the fact.
He wrote, the answer is no. So yeah, I've been
talking about it.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
If you follow my social media, I tend to not you,
but just in general, you know, I talk about I
mean the Supreme Court at this point, to report on
the Supreme Court as if it's like a legitimate organization,
is I mean, if they put it, if they put
it like a little asterisk on like this is COVID
(04:35):
misinformation and they should always have an asterisk on every
Supreme Court decision from now on that this court is illegitimate,
because that's not like up for debate, it's it's been proven.
This is a proven fact that we have a bunch
of corrupted justices that have no right making these decisions.
And so it's like very difficult for our sort of
(04:56):
both sides journalism or just even like norms, like the
idea that the Supreme Court is compromised as not something
that like the New York Times or the Washington Post
are prepared to deal with because there are certain things
that they expect to be givens that the Supreme Court's
not corrupted.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
So they don't kind of discuss it, well.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
They do it in this sense where they bring up
how send it like someone else is concerned with it,
rather than like as a statement of fact, you're like,
this is like such a politicized body.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Now it should be the headline every day they make
the decisions for this whole fucking country.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Yeah, there's no sense of objectivity.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
They're not just you know, like trying to make decisions
based on the law as they see it. Like, especially
when you see things with Samuel Alito and his wife
or Clarence Thomas or just all the conservative justices who
have all these question marks and murky shit behind them,
and you're like, yeah, they were all put in there
by the Federalist Society and they're here to do the
bidding of the conservative movement.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
And yeah, it should be the top story.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
That's the thing is like there's a couple top stories
that should be every day, and then everything else should
be underneath because they all follow from that. That's like
Citizens United and and and you know, declining tax rates
for the wealthy and the Supreme Court being corrupted as
a result of those two aforementioned things, and then everything
(06:16):
else should be under that. And that's why everybody feels
crazy because they've.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Read those things.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Yeah, those things explain so many of the things, even
like with Jamal Bowman losing his primary race, I mean,
I mean that is millions of dollars all Citizens United.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
That's such a disaster, and so just fucking the fact
that Hillary Clinton is mixed up in that God damn
like just that Centrists are fascists and we need to
get our heads around that.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Yeah, because insanity, the status quo is violent, it's death
for people. It's not it's not something we need to
be embracing, we need to be moving away from.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
But again, that's why both sides doesn't. Both sides only
works if both sides are like you know, you know,
years and years ago, when both sides were sort of
working toward once I was working toward. That doesn't matter
that everybody knows this.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
We're like, man, I'm just about to explaining cluck.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
We have to cut all the shit out, all right,
but I get the frustration.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
We're gonna take a quick break and we will be
right back, and we're back.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Kevin Costner has.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
A new movie coming out, and it sounds like it's
like this Western epic. It's called Horizon in American Saga
Chapter one. It cost one hundred million dollars to make,
a Costner grew in his own money. Apparently right now,
it's only projected to make between ten and twelve.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Million dollars at the box office.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Now we've known that these projections, we've been like, they've
been wrong before. But it's clear here that the the
sort of strategy that the studio is going for is
like they're trying to do like a sound like they're
trying to mimic like what the Sound of Freedom did
last year, like from Middle America. They wanted to come
out fourth of July, like just kind of get in there,
(08:10):
get people out there, into the into the theaters.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
And because they saw that this.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Like indie film that was just a you know, human
trafficking topic movie.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
That's how fast Ship moves. I forgot that movie existed.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Yeah, became one of the biggest fucking like it made a.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Ton of money during the summer, although a lot of
people were just buying the tickets and you know, propping
up those numbers. But the movie might be easier to
track if it actually was a right wing polemic like
Sound of Freedom.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Because the thing is with Kevin Costner, it's like what.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
We don't really even know where he is politically, He's
quite almost he's all over the place. He's like a
red state coded regular Joe. But his work and like
what he says out cloud, yeah, like going, it's.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
So true, Kevin Costner is not just a person. He
is like a something something something something.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Yeah, you're like you know, like with even like you know,
with this film, people are even trying to figure out,
like what you guys even saying about like colonialism.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
He's a white supremacist avatar. He's the hot face of
he could be a Republican governor. It's the same old fucking.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Oh he would easily like yeah, just from the shit
he did in the eighties and nineties when people would
fucking eat his fucking just.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
The same, like the same thing is like this just
sort of idea that if you look like you could
fit on Mount rushmore than you can be the governor
of our state and then everything will be all right.
And if we just had Kevin cost I mean, he
could probably fucking beat Trump.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
You know what I mean, Like, yeah, he's still look,
he's himself was a Republican in the eighties who's friends
with Reagan, but then he donated to al Gore and Obama.
In twenty twenty two, he showed up wearing a T
shirt with the phrase I'm for Liz Cheney, and you're like, oh,
because she was like she was like the first Republican
to be like yeah, vehemently opposed it, frum outwardly.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
He's actually a crusader for freedom.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Yeah. Yeah. The Emperor Balpatine's daughter is so cool.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
We love her, We love her, but even like, look
at like Field of Dreams, right, like, it's about a
farmer in Iowa who loves baseball, but like the opening
scene is like like they're at a PTA meeting where
him and his wife are opposing book bands, and then
the villain is his yuppie brother in law who's only
like about money rather than like the wonders of like
(10:25):
our universe.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
If these ghosts are playing baseball and feel.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
To us needing to do a podcast where I watch movies. Yeah,
me and you doing it because I've never seen Field Dreams.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
But anyway, but then it ends where like Kevin Costner
keeps his farm because he's like, he's like monetizes the
fact that these like ancient baseball ghosts are playing baseball
in this field.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
And then so like the moral of the story ends
up being like follow your dreams, man, and think outside
the box.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
You know, as long as you know how to fucking
commodify that shit and and generate revenue off of it.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Okay, you're like, what is this?
Speaker 2 (10:57):
What this makes me think of? It makes me think
of fucking the Bike Riders. I saw The Bike Riders,
that movie that's out now, you know, sure, and it
was a fun movie.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
I enjoyed it.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
A female actor who runs it, or's the main character. Basically,
she's great in it. But it's sort of a make
America great again kind of message. It's another one of
these like white you know, biker gangs were better and
less violent when they were all white and it was
the fifties, and it's it's like this hispanic guy shows
up and takes over the biker gang, and it's like
about the decline of biker gangs. I mean, it's like, really,
(11:29):
I can't it's not supposed to be and I guess
the real truth of this is supposed to be based
on a true story and maybe the guy was hispanic
who took over the club, but it's ends up being
fee you can't. I don't know how you can be
so klutzy to make a movie like that and not
see what you're what you're going to, how it's gonna
be perceived. It took me out of the movie. It
made me not enjoy the movie because I was like,
this is actually like kind of I get like, maybe
(11:52):
based on a true story, but it ends up being
another one of these things where it's like, don't we
wish like, man, we're in charge again. I mean, it's
really what it is, and it's all you know. And
that's what Kevin Costner represents. He represents the fetishization I
cannot say fetishization, and I love to say it. The
fetishization of white daddies, of white American fetishization of dudes
(12:17):
with big fucking heads. And I want to know, the
main thing I want to know about fucking Kevin Costner
is justice, justice. What the fuck is on top of
his head? And why has it been that same fuzzy
wuzzy wispy shit since.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
All the way back? Like what is that? Like?
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Did he for semi ball like realistic looking somewhat lost hair?
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Yeah? Was his hair?
Speaker 2 (12:42):
I want to know, Like I wish I could get
rich and get some hair, but yeah, Kevin Costner, Man,
Kevin Costner needs to fucking stop making cowboy movies because
he doesn't understand that he is a whether he knows
it or not, he's the right wing here, like.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
He has all these like other like water World. Know,
you probably didn't even see water World, you know.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Water World is like do you know what it's about?
Baguely like the polar Ice caps melt and it's all water. Yeah,
it's like totally about climate change. They never mentioned climate
change once in that film. Just about the politics of
his film. Then in two thousand and eight, Chris just
to put bringing down memory lane, I know you were
loving the movies and there was a film called Swing
Vote that he was in that's literally about like the
(13:24):
election coming down to this one guy and what his vote,
like what direction the country is gonna go in?
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Yeah, yeah, money, It's.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Just it's like off the walls. But like again, a
lot of people are like, what's the message here, because like
we were, we were grappling with the fucking Iraq war
and shit, and it's like nothing's like, bro, we're not
saying anything about fucking anything. And he even said like himself,
he's like the good thing about this is like there
isn't a message and you're like, oh okay. So it'll
(13:55):
be interesting to see what happens with his new film
that's about the West but has no take at all.
And I don't know, maybe if you really leaned into
like the right wing shit, maybe you could get that
sounder freedom bump.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
But we will see. Time will only tell.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Well, that's that's a lazy thing to say. Everything's political
right now, whether it wants to be or not. I mean,
that's the thing. It's like, it's like, you can make
a statement.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
You're making a statement.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Yeah you can, it's not.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
It's not.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
I understand. There was when things are stable, there's a
there's a chance you could be doing something apolitical. But
now everything's political because we're under attack from the inside.
So it's not. I mean, that's not and that's not
an overstatement. So it's like I get you know, he
has to understand, like whether or not he knows it,
he's a white icon and that means something, whether he
(14:41):
doesn't want it to. And then to make a cowboy movie,
I mean, come on, he's making a statement whether he
unless he's an idiot, and he's definitely not an idiot,
or he wouldn't be he wouldn't have such a nice
hair system.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Yeah, hair system.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Seriously, I'm fascinated by that, tought Chris.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
I know you're on the internet. Have you saw you've
seen the trend about raw dot ugging a flight? I
have not seen what's that r so broad.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Dogging a flight is when people go on a flight
of an airplane flight with in the entire time with
zero entertainment, like not not watching.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Anything, not listening to anything, not.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Reading, just fucking turning your brain off, eyes straight ahead.
Some people even brag they don't go to the bathroom
or even drink water the whole time. They're like, I
just sit there and I'm zoned out, straight ahead. Have
you ever seen someone do this on a plane?
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Really, I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
I don't. I fall asleep when I'm on.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
The plane, exactly, I know.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
And like you're like mostly in your own world, where well,
this is like a whole thing people were talking about
the Internet and now an on deadline, it looks like
they're a twenty four maybe making a movie about this.
It's called the Entertainment System Is Down, and this is
the guy who directed A Triangle of Sadness, it says.
Described as a social satire, the movie takes place on
(15:57):
a super long haul flight think more than twenty hours.
While passengers would usually have access to digital entertainment, the
protagonists of the movie find themselves in a situation in
which the entertainment system is in fact down, and they are,
as Ustlin put it in an early interview, quote doomed
to deal with their boredom.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
So, I mean, I think that doesn't.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Sound like a good movie. I'll tell you that. I
don't know what I said about that, except that sounds
like a horrible movie and it sounds like A twenty
four has been infiltrated by morons. I mean, that's not
a good movie.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
I saw.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
That's a common movie unless it's like, unless it's a
commentary on the fact that like people are just unable
to even be in the stillness, because I think that
is a thing.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Like they make it deeper than like just being like,
you know, there must be a deeper Hopefully they're going
to do like that. You know what that means that
you can't sit through some I mean, yeah, yeah, I'm
interested in I'm not interested. Also, everybody knows this. I
don't care about it. Being example, everyone knows that they're
over entertained and can't be by themselves. I don't need
(16:58):
a twenty four to like illustrate it. Yeah, like, okay,
you know, I mean, oh, you know, like I.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Mean a twenty four.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
They're not I mean, they have a decent batting average,
so I'm sure they know what they're coming from.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
And I was mad about iron Claw.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
I just thought iron Claw.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
I know you should have been cast. I know you
were talking, you were salty about that. You messed up
that audition.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
They didn't even ask me or anything.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Yeah, I know they didn't.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Auditions, Man, that are so ridiculous. I'm surprised I didn't
get that. That's why I stopped doing auditions. But anyway,
they send you crazy. I'm like, I'm not gonna what
Vernon Presley, Elvis's father.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Wow, I did that.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
I have the video. I should send you the video
audition for Elvis's dad.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Oh my god, we're gonna.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Video where we break down some of your self tape auditions. Anyway,
that's the most exciting thing I've ever heard going into
this weekend.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
So I appreciate you putting that into my brain.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
I'll send you a couple. I'll send you a couple
of these things. They're they're really funny.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
I mean, it's really funny.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Next time around, we gotta I want to watch them
with you, Okay, I want to have that experience.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
I've got a bunch of them I didn't get. I
didn't get a single part.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Zegang stay tuned.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
When we do dive into the crofton audition chronicles in
an upcoming episode.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
We promise you that is coming.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Chris, thank you so much for joining me on the
strending episode.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
So much fun.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Guess what we're going to be back tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Uh Jack is on a wonderful trip away rejuvenating, recharging
his batteries.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Uh so you know you're stuck with the substitute teacher
for a little bit, but we're gonna have a little fun.
We'll see you tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Like we say, take care of yourselves, take care of
each other, get the vaccine. Uh you know, don't do
nothing about white supremacy, and we will see you tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Bye, Thank y'all.
Hello everybody, and welcome to this Thursday edition. Oh trend
Z says Instagram likes are micro cheating. When I'm Miles
Gray and I'm here joined by my guest co.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Host Chris crofton Illo pleasure to be here.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Look this first story, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
It sounds like younger people are now trying to describe
liking a micro cheating. Now. This is an intern as
the Washington Post describes, an Internet era term for small
act of betrayal.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Now, this is something to do with something like, you know,
maybe liking a bikini photo of someone else. Is it harmful?
Is it harmless? Who knows?
Speaker 1 (00:47):
But I think because we're all in this new era
where you can interact so much digitally, we have a
new way of I guess we got a new term now,
micro cheating, which is.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Oh, okay. This is interesting, Miles, because some times, you know,
when you can see your friend's likes, like on Instagram,
you know what I mean, and you suspect some you
meet somebody and like you meet their husband and you
think he seems like a creep, and then you are
also being a creep. But you're single, so it's okay.
So you're like so you're like, like me, like, I'm single,
(01:19):
So I'm like looking at like some bikini lady has
like one hundred billion followers, you know, right, and then
you see the sad fuckers that put a like on
their shit, like hoping that she will pick.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Their like to like be like I want to have
sex with you or whatever.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
They you'll see.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Some guy you're like, oh, people will like.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
This, and it's like a billion likes, and then it
says people you know, and it shows that dude. It's
like that dude, and it's like those dudes are so
horny and desperate, and so I think I don't know,
I don't know if it's cheating, but I think it's
an indicator. I think if you see somebody putting their
like on some.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Yeah, it's first, especially.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
When they're sixty thousand likes and you picture this guy
was a family being, like I like this.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
I Also I see people though, too, like scroll Instagram
and they like it. I know, people just like everything
like on the thing, which is so too yeah yeah,
and not even defending them. Like I remember catching a
frame like are you just liking every photo you see?
It's like, yeah, man, my friends and stuff it's like.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Living on like honey, that's why. That's why I thought,
you know, that's why you think you have a career,
and then you find out you don't when you go
on a tour, You're like, fuck this many likes, I'm
gonna book fucking Carnegie.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Hall, I'm too fucking Stintyre, or I just don't like.
I just never thought of like the feedback loop of
like reward of like or whatever. Anyway, uh So, micro cheaters, beware,
there is a new term for you liking thirst trap
pictures or you know, leaving comments with the most part
et cetera. Next thing, Supreme Court one of your favorite topics, Chris,
(02:48):
Uh Well, So as it stands, I know they shot
down on an EPA measure that would have kept the
air clean. I haven't fully dove into what that was,
but the main things that we saw as they wrap
up their last session, they are allowing emergency abortions in Idaho.
But the only reason is they said they're not actually
(03:09):
going to rule on the merits quite yet, So that's
not We're not fully out of the water with that
case where you know, they were saying that someone has
to be on the brink of death in that state
before an emergency abortion could be performed. But another thing
they also were seemingly gave the green light to our bribes.
There was a yeah, local mayor who basically bought a
(03:31):
bunch of trash trucks for about a million dollars, and
then that company gave him a nice little thirteen thousand
dollars donation after the fact. People are like, that seems
like a tip for tet interaction there. He said, it
was a gratuity, much in the same way you know
that people are given plaques for their service from interest
groups and things like that. Well, Kavanaugh, writing for the
(03:54):
Conservative majority, said that the question in the case was,
quote whether federal law makes it a crime for date
and local officials to accept such gratuities after the fact.
He wrote, the answer is no. So yeah, I've been
talking about it.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
If you follow my social media, I tend to not you,
but just in general, you know, I talk about I
mean the Supreme Court at this point, to report on
the Supreme Court as if it's like a legitimate organization,
is I mean, if they put it, if they put
it like a little asterisk on like this is COVID
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misinformation and they should always have an asterisk on every
Supreme Court decision from now on that this court is illegitimate,
because that's not like up for debate, it's it's been proven.
This is a proven fact that we have a bunch
of corrupted justices that have no right making these decisions.
And so it's like very difficult for our sort of
(04:56):
both sides journalism or just even like norms, like the
idea that the Supreme Court is compromised as not something
that like the New York Times or the Washington Post
are prepared to deal with because there are certain things
that they expect to be givens that the Supreme Court's
not corrupted.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
So they don't kind of discuss it, well.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
They do it in this sense where they bring up
how send it like someone else is concerned with it,
rather than like as a statement of fact, you're like,
this is like such a politicized body.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Now it should be the headline every day they make
the decisions for this whole fucking country.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Yeah, there's no sense of objectivity.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
They're not just you know, like trying to make decisions
based on the law as they see it. Like, especially
when you see things with Samuel Alito and his wife
or Clarence Thomas or just all the conservative justices who
have all these question marks and murky shit behind them,
and you're like, yeah, they were all put in there
by the Federalist Society and they're here to do the
bidding of the conservative movement.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
And yeah, it should be the top story.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
That's the thing is like there's a couple top stories
that should be every day, and then everything else should
be underneath because they all follow from that. That's like
Citizens United and and and you know, declining tax rates
for the wealthy and the Supreme Court being corrupted as
a result of those two aforementioned things, and then everything
(06:16):
else should be under that. And that's why everybody feels
crazy because they've.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Read those things.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Yeah, those things explain so many of the things, even
like with Jamal Bowman losing his primary race, I mean,
I mean that is millions of dollars all Citizens United.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
That's such a disaster, and so just fucking the fact
that Hillary Clinton is mixed up in that God damn
like just that Centrists are fascists and we need to
get our heads around that.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Yeah, because insanity, the status quo is violent, it's death
for people. It's not it's not something we need to
be embracing, we need to be moving away from.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
But again, that's why both sides doesn't. Both sides only
works if both sides are like you know, you know,
years and years ago, when both sides were sort of
working toward once I was working toward. That doesn't matter
that everybody knows this.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
We're like, man, I'm just about to explaining cluck.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
We have to cut all the shit out, all right,
but I get the frustration.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
We're gonna take a quick break and we will be
right back, and we're back.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Kevin Costner has.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
A new movie coming out, and it sounds like it's
like this Western epic. It's called Horizon in American Saga
Chapter one. It cost one hundred million dollars to make,
a Costner grew in his own money. Apparently right now,
it's only projected to make between ten and twelve.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Million dollars at the box office.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Now we've known that these projections, we've been like, they've
been wrong before. But it's clear here that the the
sort of strategy that the studio is going for is
like they're trying to do like a sound like they're
trying to mimic like what the Sound of Freedom did
last year, like from Middle America. They wanted to come
out fourth of July, like just kind of get in there,
(08:10):
get people out there, into the into the theaters.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
And because they saw that this.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Like indie film that was just a you know, human
trafficking topic movie.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
That's how fast Ship moves. I forgot that movie existed.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Yeah, became one of the biggest fucking like it made a.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Ton of money during the summer, although a lot of
people were just buying the tickets and you know, propping
up those numbers. But the movie might be easier to
track if it actually was a right wing polemic like
Sound of Freedom.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Because the thing is with Kevin Costner, it's like what.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
We don't really even know where he is politically, He's
quite almost he's all over the place. He's like a
red state coded regular Joe. But his work and like
what he says out cloud, yeah, like going, it's.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
So true, Kevin Costner is not just a person. He
is like a something something something something.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Yeah, you're like you know, like with even like you know,
with this film, people are even trying to figure out,
like what you guys even saying about like colonialism.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
He's a white supremacist avatar. He's the hot face of
he could be a Republican governor. It's the same old fucking.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Oh he would easily like yeah, just from the shit
he did in the eighties and nineties when people would
fucking eat his fucking just.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
The same, like the same thing is like this just
sort of idea that if you look like you could
fit on Mount rushmore than you can be the governor
of our state and then everything will be all right.
And if we just had Kevin cost I mean, he
could probably fucking beat Trump.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
You know what I mean, Like, yeah, he's still look,
he's himself was a Republican in the eighties who's friends
with Reagan, but then he donated to al Gore and Obama.
In twenty twenty two, he showed up wearing a T
shirt with the phrase I'm for Liz Cheney, and you're like, oh,
because she was like she was like the first Republican
to be like yeah, vehemently opposed it, frum outwardly.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
He's actually a crusader for freedom.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Yeah. Yeah. The Emperor Balpatine's daughter is so cool.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
We love her, We love her, but even like, look
at like Field of Dreams, right, like, it's about a
farmer in Iowa who loves baseball, but like the opening
scene is like like they're at a PTA meeting where
him and his wife are opposing book bands, and then
the villain is his yuppie brother in law who's only
like about money rather than like the wonders of like
(10:25):
our universe.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
If these ghosts are playing baseball and feel.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
To us needing to do a podcast where I watch movies. Yeah,
me and you doing it because I've never seen Field Dreams.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
But anyway, but then it ends where like Kevin Costner
keeps his farm because he's like, he's like monetizes the
fact that these like ancient baseball ghosts are playing baseball
in this field.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
And then so like the moral of the story ends
up being like follow your dreams, man, and think outside
the box.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
You know, as long as you know how to fucking
commodify that shit and and generate revenue off of it.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Okay, you're like, what is this?
Speaker 2 (10:57):
What this makes me think of? It makes me think
of fucking the Bike Riders. I saw The Bike Riders,
that movie that's out now, you know, sure, and it
was a fun movie.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
I enjoyed it.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
A female actor who runs it, or's the main character. Basically,
she's great in it. But it's sort of a make
America great again kind of message. It's another one of
these like white you know, biker gangs were better and
less violent when they were all white and it was
the fifties, and it's it's like this hispanic guy shows
up and takes over the biker gang, and it's like
about the decline of biker gangs. I mean, it's like, really,
(11:29):
I can't it's not supposed to be and I guess
the real truth of this is supposed to be based
on a true story and maybe the guy was hispanic
who took over the club, but it's ends up being
fee you can't. I don't know how you can be
so klutzy to make a movie like that and not
see what you're what you're going to, how it's gonna
be perceived. It took me out of the movie. It
made me not enjoy the movie because I was like,
this is actually like kind of I get like, maybe
(11:52):
based on a true story, but it ends up being
another one of these things where it's like, don't we
wish like, man, we're in charge again. I mean, it's
really what it is, and it's all you know. And
that's what Kevin Costner represents. He represents the fetishization I
cannot say fetishization, and I love to say it. The
fetishization of white daddies, of white American fetishization of dudes
(12:17):
with big fucking heads. And I want to know, the
main thing I want to know about fucking Kevin Costner
is justice, justice. What the fuck is on top of
his head? And why has it been that same fuzzy
wuzzy wispy shit since.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
All the way back? Like what is that? Like?
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Did he for semi ball like realistic looking somewhat lost hair?
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Yeah? Was his hair?
Speaker 2 (12:42):
I want to know, Like I wish I could get
rich and get some hair, but yeah, Kevin Costner, Man,
Kevin Costner needs to fucking stop making cowboy movies because
he doesn't understand that he is a whether he knows
it or not, he's the right wing here, like.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
He has all these like other like water World. Know,
you probably didn't even see water World, you know.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Water World is like do you know what it's about?
Baguely like the polar Ice caps melt and it's all water. Yeah,
it's like totally about climate change. They never mentioned climate
change once in that film. Just about the politics of
his film. Then in two thousand and eight, Chris just
to put bringing down memory lane, I know you were
loving the movies and there was a film called Swing
Vote that he was in that's literally about like the
(13:24):
election coming down to this one guy and what his vote,
like what direction the country is gonna go in?
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Yeah, yeah, money, It's.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Just it's like off the walls. But like again, a
lot of people are like, what's the message here, because like
we were, we were grappling with the fucking Iraq war
and shit, and it's like nothing's like, bro, we're not
saying anything about fucking anything. And he even said like himself,
he's like the good thing about this is like there
isn't a message and you're like, oh okay. So it'll
(13:55):
be interesting to see what happens with his new film
that's about the West but has no take at all.
And I don't know, maybe if you really leaned into
like the right wing shit, maybe you could get that
sounder freedom bump.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
But we will see. Time will only tell.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Well, that's that's a lazy thing to say. Everything's political
right now, whether it wants to be or not. I mean,
that's the thing. It's like, it's like, you can make
a statement.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
You're making a statement.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Yeah you can, it's not.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
It's not.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
I understand. There was when things are stable, there's a
there's a chance you could be doing something apolitical. But
now everything's political because we're under attack from the inside.
So it's not. I mean, that's not and that's not
an overstatement. So it's like I get you know, he
has to understand, like whether or not he knows it,
he's a white icon and that means something, whether he
(14:41):
doesn't want it to. And then to make a cowboy movie,
I mean, come on, he's making a statement whether he
unless he's an idiot, and he's definitely not an idiot,
or he wouldn't be he wouldn't have such a nice
hair system.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Yeah, hair system.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Seriously, I'm fascinated by that, tought Chris.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
I know you're on the internet. Have you saw you've
seen the trend about raw dot ugging a flight? I
have not seen what's that r so broad.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Dogging a flight is when people go on a flight
of an airplane flight with in the entire time with
zero entertainment, like not not watching.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Anything, not listening to anything, not.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Reading, just fucking turning your brain off, eyes straight ahead.
Some people even brag they don't go to the bathroom
or even drink water the whole time. They're like, I
just sit there and I'm zoned out, straight ahead. Have
you ever seen someone do this on a plane?
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Really, I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
I don't. I fall asleep when I'm on.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
The plane, exactly, I know.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
And like you're like mostly in your own world, where well,
this is like a whole thing people were talking about
the Internet and now an on deadline, it looks like
they're a twenty four maybe making a movie about this.
It's called the Entertainment System Is Down, and this is
the guy who directed A Triangle of Sadness, it says.
Described as a social satire, the movie takes place on
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a super long haul flight think more than twenty hours.
While passengers would usually have access to digital entertainment, the
protagonists of the movie find themselves in a situation in
which the entertainment system is in fact down, and they are,
as Ustlin put it in an early interview, quote doomed
to deal with their boredom.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
So, I mean, I think that doesn't.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Sound like a good movie. I'll tell you that. I
don't know what I said about that, except that sounds
like a horrible movie and it sounds like A twenty
four has been infiltrated by morons. I mean, that's not
a good movie.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
I saw.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
That's a common movie unless it's like, unless it's a
commentary on the fact that like people are just unable
to even be in the stillness, because I think that
is a thing.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Like they make it deeper than like just being like,
you know, there must be a deeper Hopefully they're going
to do like that. You know what that means that
you can't sit through some I mean, yeah, yeah, I'm
interested in I'm not interested. Also, everybody knows this. I
don't care about it. Being example, everyone knows that they're
over entertained and can't be by themselves. I don't need
(16:58):
a twenty four to like illustrate it. Yeah, like, okay,
you know, I mean, oh, you know, like I.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Mean a twenty four.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
They're not I mean, they have a decent batting average,
so I'm sure they know what they're coming from.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
And I was mad about iron Claw.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
I just thought iron Claw.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
I know you should have been cast. I know you
were talking, you were salty about that. You messed up
that audition.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
They didn't even ask me or anything.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Yeah, I know they didn't.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Auditions, Man, that are so ridiculous. I'm surprised I didn't
get that. That's why I stopped doing auditions. But anyway,
they send you crazy. I'm like, I'm not gonna what
Vernon Presley, Elvis's father.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Wow, I did that.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
I have the video. I should send you the video
audition for Elvis's dad.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Oh my god, we're gonna.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Video where we break down some of your self tape auditions. Anyway,
that's the most exciting thing I've ever heard going into
this weekend.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
So I appreciate you putting that into my brain.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
I'll send you a couple. I'll send you a couple
of these things. They're they're really funny.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
I mean, it's really funny.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Next time around, we gotta I want to watch them
with you, Okay, I want to have that experience.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
I've got a bunch of them I didn't get. I
didn't get a single part.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Zegang stay tuned.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
When we do dive into the crofton audition chronicles in
an upcoming episode.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
We promise you that is coming.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Chris, thank you so much for joining me on the
strending episode.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
So much fun.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Guess what we're going to be back tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Uh Jack is on a wonderful trip away rejuvenating, recharging
his batteries.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Uh so you know you're stuck with the substitute teacher
for a little bit, but we're gonna have a little fun.
We'll see you tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Like we say, take care of yourselves, take care of
each other, get the vaccine. Uh you know, don't do
nothing about white supremacy, and we will see you tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Bye, Thank y'all.
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