All Episodes

March 31, 2021 22 mins

On this edition of Trendy and the Zeits Miles and Joelle Monique discuss International Transgender Day of Visibility, Delta's CEO backpeddling on praise for Georgia's new voter suppression law, the 2 year anniversary of Nipsey Hu$$le's death, and Trump's plan to start a social media platform.

Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Mark as Played
Transcript

Episode Transcript

Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
Everybody, it's time to talk. Well, let's knock. Let's give
you the episode name first, Welcome to this edition of
The Trendy and the Zights t T Trendy Heavens eight. Okay.
Shout out to Pat P five five on the discord
for that one. Sir Elton John inspired a k a uh.

(00:26):
I'm I'm Miles and I'm I'm joined by the wonderful
Joel Monique here to co host. You know what I mean, Like, look,
things got dodgy with the last T Jamie Loftus looks
you quit because she said I was too checked out.
I apparently smoked too much weed for her to think
I'm a serious teacher and I anyway, j B only
says people know that. People at this point you don't.

(00:50):
If you didn't know that, welcome well and then if
you didn't know that, welcome new listeners or people who
just started listening. Thank you for being here, Joel. Also,
thank you so much for being here. Thinks you have
of me. I'm excited to talk today's trans with you.
It's yeah, it's a mix of all kinds of things. Well,
today is the trans Day of Visibility, so that is
a huge, huge, I couldn't have come at a greater

(01:10):
time considering the number of anti trans bills that are
being filed all over. I believe Arkansas now has the
I guess fucked up title of being like one of
the most inhumane states to trans people. Um and the
sports ship. I don't know how many times I'm gonna
be saying this. And I know, Dike Gang, you get

(01:31):
this ship, and you can tell everybody else it's this
is not a problem that has so many trans people
already competing. It's not like just as themselves loving their sport,
loving putting the time in successful but not necessarily dominating
like it is just you could just let trans people
live their damn lives and we could all just be

(01:53):
happy together. It is wild to me that we would
knowingly revoke chilled rights and access to health care because
somebody else is worried about what's happening. That's that child's
body between them, their doctor and their parents. Leave them
the hell alone. Yeah, but again it's and it's such
a slippery slope because again, this is another thing that

(02:15):
that you're gonna it's just gonna invite all kinds of
gender policing that is only going to cause more problems
and more oppressive policies. Uh. That is just you know,
fucking absolutely antithetical to Yeah, trans kids consider suicide of that,
I think it's like have attempted. Um, it's it's it's

(02:40):
upsetting that we can't just support people with them live
their lives how they want to live them. But this
is Translate visibility, which is you know, it was kind
of created in two thousand nine as a counter to
Translate remembrance trance. To rememberance is like here of the men, women,
genderless folks we have lost because of their trans identity. Um.

(03:02):
But Rachel Crandell in two thousand nine, who's a Michigan
based transgender activist and the executive director of Transgender Michigan,
with like, listen, we need a day of just visibility
of of like just being able to see each other,
see ourselves and other people and and be able to
you know, sort of have the same day like the
LGBTQ community has and like we have coming out day. Um,

(03:23):
this is sort of a transgender specific coming out day
or or just acceptance Day, which is like a beautiful idea.
But vays Reads wrote this really interesting piece on junkie
dot com. And since neither Miles nor myself our trans
I wanted to kind of give some breath in space
to an actual trans writer talk about their experience. The
title is called When trans Visibility Comes at the Cost

(03:45):
of trans Safety. They quote the Undying Poet and Boyer's
Exoneration of Cancer narratives um and basically it is visibility
and Boyd explains doesn't reliably change the relations of power
or to who or what is visible, except insofar as
visible prey are easier to hunt. So and I kind

(04:09):
of want to talk to you about this idea of
like obviously, and the author, Yves goes on to explain
that they think that trans visibility is like a great thing. Look,
it's really awesome being able to see other people come
out as trans to help Eves recognize their trans nis
and it helped them to transition. But like, there's also
it's safety. It's an issue. Not everyone can come out.

(04:31):
So basically, if you're trans and you're out here, uh,
you're not ready to be fully out um or you
can't safely come out, or for whatever reason, you just
don't want to go there yet. Like in the same
way that even if you're not out, you know, coming
out day is still for you. I think that trans
visibility is still for you even if you're not yet
ready to be visible. And I would definitely check out

(04:52):
you Ves's piece. It's really beautiful. As you talk about
their experience, um alarida, little quick quote here, Um, my
experience is far from you meat. Trans identifications have skyrocketed
in the wake of the trans tipping point. Uh. That
was when Times declared the tipping point and put Liver
and Cox on the cover of their magazine. In Melbourne,

(05:13):
the Royal Children's Hospital Gender Clinic has seen a significant
growth and referrals, raising from three thousand seven to two
hundred and fifty per year in seventeen. Similar trends are
evident overseas. A gallop Pole of fifteen thousand Americans released
in early twenty one found that Generation Ze bob in
tween ninety seven and is the queerest generation yet. Hey babies,
I love high queer babies. Welcome to the world, y'all

(05:35):
are beautiful. One in six identifies l g B t
q I A plus, with one point eight percent of
Gen Z specifically identifying s trans. This is a big
drump for millennials, of whom one in ten or lgbt
q I a plus and one point two percent are trans.
Among baby boomers only one in fifty. But as I discovered,
and I'm still quoting Vez here, but as I discovered,
the last December of visibility comes at a cost. Getting

(05:57):
a few trans people on the screen is not the
same as transliberation for a marginalized minority like the trans community,
who faced his proportionate rates of violence and discrimination. Visibility
alone is not an inherent good. On the contrary, it
can infect render us more vulnerable to harm as border
weren't being visible. It makes trans people easier to hunt. Um, so, yeah,

(06:17):
some things to be thinking about on this trans visibility.
And on top of that, you know, it's like allies,
you've got to think that there's another pulse saying that
only about of Americans no personally know someone who's transgender,
meaning the other three quarters are probably relying on what
they're seeing in media to inform their concepts or ideas

(06:39):
of what a transgender person is. And yeah, like so
on top of that, it's important that the representation that
we're sending out there is is actually appropriate and not
something that is going to other someone and also that
also is incumbent on other people, and knowing that only
of the country, even if you do not know someone
that is trans, like you also have to know that

(07:00):
you're because of everything we're seeing, you may intersect with
somebody who's talking some transphobic nonsense and be prepared to
be able to like sticks of people want to say no,
Like what you're saying is completely wrong, Like there's not
a world in which I need to begin saying what
is wrong with these people? Unless they are literally pose

(07:23):
an existential threat to my existence, then I mean that.
Then you understand you have to pick your battles here
and there. But short of having your life or body
physically harmed, like, definitely feel free to just be like, hey,
trance kids are not having quote unquote gender affirmative surgery
at the drop of a hat. Like this is a

(07:43):
long process. There are qualified officials who can navigate these
situations that they don't need your I'll just be frank,
your Bible or your opinion to help determine the best
health care for this individual. It's unnecessary. You're getting in
the way, and you're doing a lot more harm than good.
It's foolish. Um. I have a lot of friends. I've

(08:03):
got a lot of queer friends who were living a
very queer lifestyle who are now coming to terms with
their trans nous. There's a lot that even even in
the queer community, we're still having to learn a lot
of sis. Queers are still learning and developing and and
making amends for past mistakes. It is the whole community
that is is just now becoming visible and mainstream. And

(08:28):
in that there, you know, there's a lot of danger,
but also hopefully a lot of love and a lot
of light. So try to be the love in the
light that you want to see exactly, and try and
be somebody that you that any oppressed person would be
thankful that you were there to be an ally. And
really educate yourself. That's the biggest thing. I mean, you
can only read and so many other things, but like
really try and educate yourself and as much as possible,

(08:50):
especially like things like language, because those are evolutions that
like you know, I'm myself have to constantly we all
are going through because we're changing. So you have get
be aware, you have to keep educating yourself. Don't get
comfortable and satisfied and thinking, no, like I did my work.
You know, I'm like, well, no. Become a long way
since then. But anyway, moving on Georgia Delta, that is

(09:14):
trending because people are like action will there be um
Ed Bastion, who's the CEO of Delta, which is based
in Atlanta. Um one of the you know obviously because
of that that hearts Field Jackson is a huge travel
hub because of Delta being based out of there. Um
before in regards to this bill, he said some ceo

(09:37):
type ship of how he was like, oh, yeah, I
mean I know I've been kind of quiet with it,
but quote, the bill has improved considerably during the legislative process. Sir,
do we have to fight you? That seems unnecessary, But
you think it's all out back, Yeah, you can meet
the whole state of Georgia outside your office at some point.
So he rightfully got his ass torched because people were like,

(09:58):
what are y'all? And then on top of it, many
other CEOs of Georgia based companies have not spoken up
in a direct way. Coca Cola is heavy, heavy with
a home depot. I mean, I don't expect much from
them because they're so, but at the same time as
national businesses, you do like, where are you standing on this?

(10:19):
Because this is the most regressive, restrictive voter suppression bill
that we've seen in ages. If Colcola was a real one,
they would bring bottles of what is it designy Cocacola owns.
I just see have the mountain line. Now they don't.
They should don't disrespect them with designing, you know what
I mean. Give them Coca Cola, you know what I mean?
And if they want, maybe give them cash to buy
better water than designing. It's not disrespect people trying to

(10:41):
exercise their democratic right with bottles um. But then he
did come out and says this now quote, I need
to make it crystal clear that the final bill is
unacceptable and does not match it Alta's values. The right
to vote is sacred. It is fundamental to our democracy,
and those rights not only need to be protected, but
easily facilitated in a safe and secure manner. It's evident
that the billing clues provisions that will make it harder

(11:01):
for many underrepresented voters, particularly black voters, to exercise their
constitutional right to elect their representatives. That is wrong. The
black person who had to write that I know or
who obviously the black person who had to vet it. Okay,
is that good? I'm sorry to make you. I'm sorry
to create more labor for you in this time. But see,

(11:23):
I'm I was about to read bell Hooks, but I
don't have time, so I'm still kind of filling out
my critical race theory mind. Um. He goes on to say, quote,
I know this result in Georgia has caused frustration, anger
and pain for many members of our Delta family. That's
an understatement. I commit to you that as we move forward,
Delta will continue to do everything in our power to

(11:44):
hear and protect your voice and your rights, both in
Georgia nationwide. So what are you willing to do exactly
up end the country or up end the company and say, okay,
well we're not gonna we're not operating out of here
anymore that far, because that's what it is gonna take.
I'm pretty sure, because you're dealing with and like a

(12:04):
party who knows it's the fourth quarter with three seconds
left and they're going all in on this voter suppression
ship I it is. I would just rather you just
not say anything because it's so clear to me that
you're not going to do anything right, it's it's not
in your best interest to do anything, so you're just

(12:24):
gonna keep your money tight. It's relatively cheap to operate
out of Georgia. It's why we see a lot of
companies using to work there. Don't say anything like please
just leave black people who we don't have time to
deal with this, And you're wishy, washy blase corporate family jargon.
It's boring and it's um pulling focus from where it

(12:44):
needs to be. Uh, you we haven't here that a
prominent group of seventy two black business execs began circulating
a letter killing corporate America. They need to be unequivocal
and opposing this legislation. Not just unequivocal, but like, you
need to put your money where your mouth is. I'm
really tired of people being like, well, we stand for this.
Let me get five black people from your corporation far

(13:06):
above minimum wage, and let's hear what they have to say.
But let's like, right, when, what's your executive board look like? Oh,
give me one second of photoshop that real quick? Right? Alright? Right? Uh,
Antoine get in here and just like wait, no, actually,
can you just make my hair curlier? You know? You know, so,
I mean, look, we have all these people, professors and

(13:27):
all these people, and that it now or the other
one who was like Afro Cuban or something, oh yeah yeah, yeah,
I can't remember that person's name. But they also got
wild with it. Yeah, there's uh, this is an existential threat. Again,
there is another existence to to extinguish or to try
and and tamper cut back the access to you know,

(13:52):
easy voting and to just you know, uh fuck a
refree voting. That is truly the kind of ship. When
you keep people from voting, it allows for more racist
goon ay to occur that will just actively erase everyone's
fucking priorities, because it's not just gonna be people of color.
It's going to eventually be I mean, it's already people
of color. It's already queer people, it's already the entire

(14:13):
LGBTQ community, it's already indigenous people, it's already Muslims, it's
already Asian people, it's already Hispanic people, it's already immigrants.
So everybody, if you're if you're if you're fortunate enough
to not be in that category in this country. It
will eventually it's gonna be at your door too, in
some way or another, because the on the right they're

(14:34):
not having ship except for runaway greed and power that
is defined by their toxic Christian masculinity or whatever it is.
They do not care about your cold plants, do not
care even about your white neighborhoods. If they can make
some money off and turn that thing into a highway,
they'll do it tomorrow. Like that. You're not safe. You're

(14:54):
just most likely to vote for them right now. And
that's how they need to say in power. That's so
I use it. You know, America's a rotting you know,
a loaf of bread. Some people, unfortunately are surrounded by
the green mold, and other people think that just because
they're part of the loaf doesn't have the mold on
it yet, that they're all good. It's like, no, mother,
are you in the same thing. It just hasn't got
to you yet. They designed the build is that you

(15:18):
can't give water to people where they're lying, typically ten
hours long, get a drink, You cannot step out of line.
You and they signed it under a painting of plantation.
I with all white men in the room. It was
the most of like just brutal, blatant display of like

(15:43):
political racism and for people to not be outraged, and
the fact that what we're mostly seeing is black women
be outraged and then of course prosecuted or actually they
prosecuted but jailed and arrested and harmed over it. It's
just like here we go again. I really, I don't know,
it's very exhausting to be a black person post Obama,

(16:04):
post you know, Rainbow Coalition, post Civil rights suffrage, where
you just think like, oh, all these movements are helping.
They're just they were smoked. They were smoke bombs to
to keep the glacial pace the same, you know, because
if the if the temple got too quick, that unfortunately
the country just not with that. And that's what we

(16:26):
are have forced to face every day. Um, let's talk
just another thing. Today is the anniversary to your anniversary
of Nipsey Hustles passing when he was murdered. Yeah, and
it's just like it's a wild to think that that
was two years ago. Um, but also like it's just
the people still I'm it's wild to see how much

(16:49):
more popular he's been getting posthumously. Um, like I was
listening to last year, I was watching the latest season
The Last Chance You, and like they had his track
on there and I was like, oh my god, and
I but I it it. It was taking place in
l A. And you know, he's the l A guy.
So on top of that, just the I also just
see how many people have you know, for good or bad.

(17:10):
Obviously he's he was a you know, staunch capitalist. We
saw him do the you know, are proud to pay
thing when he sold a thousand mixed tapes for a
hundred dollars a piece out of his trunk and sold out. Um,
he knows what it is. But he also poured that
back into the community and was actively trying to improve
the areas he was from. It should yeah, it's it's

(17:30):
it's interesting to see how people are like sort of
modeling after that in other cities, to where people are
starting to feel some duty uh to their their home,
their hometown, their neighborhood, and if they can see that
there's something that they can contribute positively to that that
they are If it doesn't always have to be money.
It may just be like I have a skill or
some knowledge I want to impart on everyone and they

(17:51):
do so yeah, just restu. Yeah. Yeah, I think there's
a lot of that going around, particularly with social media
sort of allowing the local celebrity hero to reach a
global local status, which is that like, oh, you know,
this person reps of that neighborhood and a lot of
us enjoys that person. Um, And therefore movie we can

(18:11):
help their hood. And I think that's really beautiful. I
think we'll probably start seeing that Pop Smoke coming up
soon his uh first and last movie, it's about to drop. Um.
Apparently he was just stunning in it. Um. It's a
twenty one year old kid with so much promise, not
just a great rapper, not just a great actor, but
by all accounts that i've heard, like a good person. Um.

(18:32):
And so you know, it sucks that we're still plagued
by these sort of senseless violent tragedies. Um, but it's
also incredible to see with limited time how much good
can be done and how much awareness can be brought
to a community and needs. So yeah, person in peace. Yeah,
Pop Smoke, I mean that bringing that, you know, doing

(18:54):
that Brooklyn drills sound okay? Uh. And finally on Twitter,
hashtag Trump social platform rules is trending because you know
how this ship starts. You'll never find the thing where
it's like you're seeing all the positive ship on it.
It's just a bunch of people dunking on it with
all kinds of just dumb memes about what you know,

(19:15):
how Trump's social platforms is probably a hot hot clan
orgy over chat if you look at look at the
hashtag is just a barrage of horrible memes, like really terrible,
quickly put together, not very poignant memes. What a mess. Yeah,
it's the one thing you do see here. Like people

(19:37):
who are like, no, look um, I'm all this like
liberty something. They're like, well, there's no child pornography, no
censorship of peaceful, law abiding viewpoints challenging the mainstream, no race,
no New World Order sycophants eating And he's like, you
know the words not like Twitter, it's great. I mean,
it's all who knows what the hell is going on

(19:59):
over there? Trying remember anything of value and uh, there's
nothing real one. I don't, I can't. Everything seems kind
of off. Um, let's see. Nope, I do like this
like meme of where it's like it's just Trump gesticulating

(20:19):
wildly with his hands, and it's I love the poorly educated.
I don't know why that makes me love him, absolutely fantastic.
So yeah, good luck on that other whatever watering hole
for people who actually don't have any idea what how
good this country could be. All right, um, well, Joel,

(20:40):
thanks for stopping by. I'll see you tomorrow. Tomorrow's episode.
We gotta got a banger for you and might continue
the streak a few more days. We will until then, y'all,
please wear a mask, wash your hands, Please try and
be safe if you have access to a vaccination, you know,

(21:01):
let's do it. Look at that ship. Done, baby, it's amazing.
Go get it. I did it. It was totally worth
it already, let me get up. Let me let me
hold have a vaccine quick. Um. Also, yes, guys, and
do all that stuff. Be safe and more importantly, be
a good at life. Someone is on some fuck ship
discriminatory nonsense. Don't be somebody who doesn't say anything. You know,

(21:24):
you don't have to fund somebody up, but at least
speak the funk up because most people, just like we
saw where that Unfortunately, that Asian woman was stomped out
by some random attacker in New York. People stood idly
by and watched it happen, and that ship is so disgusting.
Security guard like, yeah, please do not stand idly by.

(21:44):
Uh and you know, consider your own safety, but please,
please please. That's how we're gonna fucking show people that
people of good conscious outnumber the fucking evil doopers. So
until then, peace and blessings. We love you all, Take
care of by it E.

The Daily Zeitgeist News

Advertise With Us

Follow Us On

Hosts And Creators

Jack O'Brien

Jack O'Brien

Miles Gray

Miles Gray

Show Links

StoreAboutRSSLive Appearances

Popular Podcasts

Dateline NBC

Dateline NBC

Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com

Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang

Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang

Ding dong! Join your culture consultants, Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang, on an unforgettable journey into the beating heart of CULTURE. Alongside sizzling special guests, they GET INTO the hottest pop-culture moments of the day and the formative cultural experiences that turned them into Culturistas. Produced by the Big Money Players Network and iHeartRadio.

Music, radio and podcasts, all free. Listen online or download the iHeart App.

Connect

© 2025 iHeartMedia, Inc.