October 16, 2017 • 47 mins
In episode 6, Jack & Miles are joined by Daily Zeitgeist writer Alison Zeidman the 25th Amendment, the weekly tabloids, Stevie Wonder is faking his blindness, & more. Plus producer Anna Hossnieh gives a quick sexual harassment in Hollywood update.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to The Daily Zeitgeist for Monday,
October sixteenth, two thousand seventeen, episode one of season two.
My name is Jack O'Brien. I am joined as always
by my co host Mr Miles Grave. Hello. Always shout
out to UH, that one guy on Twitter who said
I was mad funny. Thank you so much. You kept
me from weeping last night. All right, And in our
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third seat today is Adam Runs Everything writer and uh
a writer for The Daily Zeitgeist. Alison Zeidman. Hello, Hey,
what's up are you guys? We're I'm good, We're great.
We're excited to have you. Yeah, wow, you guys kiss
(00:45):
use her eye contact game right now. We don't make
eye contacts in the studio. I'm sorry, it's something new.
I'm just gonna look at my cuticles for the rest
of the show. Never looked at any of these people's
cassore Jackson had to look at another woman mothers in
the back. That's right. Let's get into your over under
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what what's something you believe is overrated? Alison? Okay, I'm
going to come out real, real strong, real hot, um
bacon overrated. I will add that I've only ever eating
bacon once. It was not a great experience. Wait, what's
so explain your relationship to pork with us that you've
(01:30):
only had bacon once. Okay, So I I grew up
Jewish and like we mostly kept kosher, and then as
an adult, I'm pretty much a vegetarian. But I did
try bacon once. Some friends had some bacon and they're like, um,
I think it was pretty crispy. Okay, yeah, was it
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an applewood smoked I I don't know. It was like
it was probably like bodega bacon. It was a New York. Well,
we should have you back for a maybe a bacon bacon. Yes,
there are many like bacon, but that makes sense. I was.
I was just not impressed. Yeah, I can't get mad
at that. If I've been that, I'm missing out all
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the If you're not a meat eater and then you
try it, like, I can see how. But if you
were like the most meat, yeah, exactly, the most meat meat. Um. Yeah,
I can't disagree. But that bacon might have been overrated.
I still can't say it's over it. I think it
has it's earned its spots. Bacon and my favorite. I
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don't think it's overrated though, but I understand. I understand
where you're coming from, so I can't really hate on that. Yeah, alright,
what's underrated? That was very that was very understanding of
you guys. Okay, um, yeah, we're not like the internet.
That's like watching get some angry tweets. I hope, so
hopefully there's gonna be a whole comment thread about this
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feminist anti bacon screw. Um. Okay, what's uh underrated? Underrated? Um?
I would say celebrity gossip, which I know we're gonna
be talking about later on the show, and I love it.
I can't get enough. I'm not really sure why. I've
tried to intellectualize it, Like there is someone who did,
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like this Ted talk about how you know, so the
tendency to engage in gossip, in particular celebrity gossip, it's
like an anthropological lens for how we view society and
how we relate to one another. And it's like or
I just kind of can't get enough of the Kardashians
for some reason, like the schadenfreud of it too. It's
like they're broke. Love that Tori Spelling take that well,
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I thought you were successful, but you're saying underrated in
that I think people don't take it take it, and
I do. I do kind of believe that it like
it does in some ways start conversations about society and
about how we relate to one another is human beings,
especially as more gross stuff comes out, Um, like take
the Kardashians like rob and Black China sparked some discussions
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about domestic violence that maybe people wouldn't have had otherwise, right,
or like revenge porn? Right? Yeah, yeah for sure, Um so,
I guess And from an anthropological standpoint, like don't don't
they think that gossip is like how human language evolved
in the Yeah, like hiero like ancient Egyptian hieroglyphics. Apparently
a lot of it was like this bit. Yeah yeah,
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it's like can you believe this this pharaoh was working
with this pharaoh pharaoh s? I don't know, can you
believe this snake scarub a Nubis head first? And then
like the hieroglyphic for an air horn? Right? All right?
I forgot to ask you, what's the weirdest thing you've
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searched on Google in the past week? Oh? Um, I
should have looked, I should have checked about what I've
what I've been up to. It's probably some like dumb
skincare thing that's not weird. It's just like, why do
you think about this so much? Noticing? Wow, what's your regiment? Um,
I'll do a little plug for the ordinary. I'm a
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big fan of that line, Well your skin is anything
but being hey skincare, it's I think that's underrated to
all the listeners out there. I want you to know
that I am an actual bridge troll and Miles is
being very kind. She has a sheet over her. That
paper bag looks amazing. Is that recycled? Is that all
(05:33):
post consumer? Or maybe we could try the segment whack
as person in your social media or weirdest person on
your social media if you have an example, which I
know you do. Um. You know we talked about this
a little before, and I just want to reiterate them
not judging, I'm not shaming. I'm just fascinated. Um, we're
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not calling out names anymore. So. There's someone that I
know in real life if and also follow on Twitter
who a few months ago, me and a few friends
started noticing that he was constantly tweeting about the new
planet of the Apes movie and retweeting like every piece
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of news, marketing, promotions, everything about the movie, and it's like,
what's going on? Like is he working on this film
in some capacity? Which I didn't think? So? Is he
friends with someone who works on the movie? Is he
just that big a fan? And after you know, some investigation,
which is basically just like dm ng other people that
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know this person on Twitter and be like, do you
know what's up with this? And like now I've been
trying to figure out too. Some people asked him directly
and uh, he just like evaded the question and just
like ha ha, yeah, who knows. I was just like, what, like,
if you are like a big fan, just say I
don't know. So, yeah, where is he like one of
these bots paid by the studio to enthusiasm about the film? Yeah? Honestly,
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it looked like his account was hacked. But then like
one of the people that I was, I was like
dm NG with like three different people at the same time,
all about this situation. Because I had tweeted, like without
like naming a name or anything. I was just sort
of like tweeting about how I wanted This is like
the great mystery of my life. And I feel like
I want to know what's behind it. Um. So someone
sent my screenshots of like his Facebook account where like
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people were asking, like he's also posting the stuff on
Facebook and people were asking like in the comments, and
he's engaging with them, So it seems like it's not
just like an account hacker bots. He just is so
down with the Planet of the Apes movie. Yeah, and
has anybody tried trolling him and just being like, Yo,
that movie sucks. I know what I'm doing this week.
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This week you should because now he's at it again.
He's apparently at it again because now it's coming out
on DVD, So he was like tweeting about like how
excited he is for the DVD. Only people who work
for movie studios talk about dv released, but like he
definitely doesn't. He definitely like he's not even in this
isn't someone I know from LA. I'm not gonna get
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like two specific because again, like I don't if you know,
on the off chance that they are listening, I don't
want I'm not making fun of it. I'm just genuinely
interested and wanted me for the job you want, right,
Maybe what they say he wants to be An eight.
He wants to be a right. Maybe it work, but
it's too Like everyone I know, people who like work
at Universal and they're like, man, Fast Fast Furious eight
DVD just came out, can't wait. I'm like, motherfucker, do
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you even have a dvd? FLA, what are you doing
looking blu ray? Like, okay, anyway, I found Andy Circus's
performance over the top end Hendy as excuse you. He
touched my heart, like literally nobody got excited about that.
But like it was in the nineties on Rotten Tomato,
I think, or like, uh, you know, eighties nineties on
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Rotten Tomatoes. By the way, we need you're talking about
my rotten tomatoes conspiracy theory at some point, but you
can't just tease that and then Jack's conspiracy themes conspiracy
theory themes. So that's how excited everybody on the show gets. Uh.
I find it weird, like it seems arbitrary at certain points,
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whether they give something a rotten or fresh, Like when
you look down to the individual reviews, like sometimes it
will seem like a negative review and it will get
a fresh, and sometimes it will seem like a positive
review and I'll get a rotten and so I think
there must be like some payment going on, like because
and also like when you compare Metacritic scores to Rotten
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Tomato scores, like there will be movies that are like
in the nineties on Rotten Tomato that when you actually
look at the Metacritic score, which is more detailed and
takes the actual like star ratings and like number ratings
into account, like, it's way lower. So I just think,
I think something's going on there. I I want to know, Yeah,
you should, you should follow this threat. I want to
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know what the process is for determining whether like a
two and a half to three star review gets a
rot no refresh. I'm coming for you. We're gonna go.
But let's let's move to less important things, uh, like
potential nuclear war that we're all facing. Um, yeah, exactly. Uh.
(10:21):
So I did want to talk about the fact that
the fate of the universe hangs in the balance right now,
is in the hands of somebody, the tiny, tiny trembling
hands of Donald Trump, who uh you know, there has
(10:43):
been speculation by Republicans uh that General Kelly and Maddie
uh are have probably had conversations about you know, whether
they would physically tackle and physically restrain Trump were he
to try and like take the nuclear football. And I
(11:04):
don't know how football work, but I'm pretty sure they
just have the launch codes. Right. So there are four
things in the football. There's the black book containing the
retaliatory options, a book listing classified site locations, a Manila
folder with eight or ten pages staple together giving a
description of procedures for the emergency alert system. And a
three by five inch card with the authentication codes. Okay,
(11:27):
So knowing all that now, I feel fine because Trump's
not going to read that much. He's not. He's he
can't read. He can't he can't read. He doesn't like reading.
We know that his aids have to give him like
tweet length, lots of pictures, one sheets every day. He'll
get bored halfway through and just give up. So, just
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to give some historical context, uh, President John F. Kennedy,
when he got into office, he found that the generals,
the the people who were currently counting on to like
restore order and rain Trump in. Uh, those people during
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his administration were constantly pushing him to start a nuclear
war with Russia like it didn't matter, like any chance
they got, especially during the Cuban Missile crisis in particular,
but um, they they were basically furious that America hadn't
(12:31):
used our nuclear weapons in the Korean War. They were like,
how how could we not win that war? We have
nuclear weapons and so like he basically it was like
him versus a room full of generals during the Cuban
Missile crisis and he was like the only one being like, no,
we're not like dropping bombs on Cuba, and they're like,
(12:51):
we'll get your dad's gun. We want to see it quick. Um.
So yeah, it's that's how presidencies usually work. And now
we're at a place where we're counting on those guys
to stand in between Trump and you know, bombing North
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Korea to distract people from the investigation into Russian meddling,
which is that what you're referring to is that UK
think tank, right? The UK think tank says that they
think that the natural next sort of step and the
Trump administration's actions is to start a war with Korea
(13:35):
in order to distract from the Mullayer investigation. Cool cool,
So all right, yeah, where we all move into to
avoid the black rain? Any ideas, No everyone just kind
of said, everyone's resigned to the back, Like, I guess
I'll just melt here. I guess Russia. It sounds like
they won't have their eye. They're right, probably the safest
place to be. Yeah, maybe Russia is the safest place.
(13:58):
Can you imagine the influx of elite American immigrants into Russia? Right? So,
I guess the next question is how do we get
out of this situation? And Uh, Steve Bannon, Trump's best pal,
uh confided in somebody that he thinks Trump only has
a thirty percent chance of getting through his entire first term,
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which I think is most Americans dream at this point
is that he either you know, gets impeached or they
used the twenty Amendment to you know, declare him unfit
for office. Trump doesn't even know what or maybe he
does now, but he totally didn't know what amendment? Right
(14:44):
is that? So Bannon said, I you need to watch
out for the twenty amendment And he said, what's that? Yeah?
Like I think it was something more like I think
Trump was I worry about impeachment or talking about impeachment, impeachment,
and and Bandon was like, you should also probably be
more worried about the twenty fifth Amendment, and he's like
the twenty one who Yeah, And that's how we know
that Trump doesn't watch the West wing, right, because that's
(15:08):
how I learned about the amendment. UM. And you know what,
maybe I shouldn't have admitted that I learned it in
my years of constitutional study, right, not from studying sorganisms right.
And there's some people who think that Kelly promoted his
long time lieutenant Christian Nielsen to Homeland Security head uh
(15:33):
to like build numbers towards amendment movie exactly. Yeah. So
when you look at the twenty amendent, basically what it
takes is the vice president plus a majority of the cabinet.
So that means thirteen of the twenty four cabinet members
have to declare the president unfit to invoke the amendment.
But Trump can basically push back and say, like, no,
(15:53):
I disagree, I should I should? Uh? I should I
should still be president. Uh. And if if that's the case,
then they would need a supermajority from Congress in both
houses to actually uphold the vice president and cabinets. What's
the supermajority so that means, over I believe two thirds
or three fours hold on two thirds. So yeah, a
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supermajority would mean two thirds of all House and Senate members,
So which is what they would inevitably need. Because Trump
has never thought himself unfit for anything. Kelly's making some moves,
he seems that did you guys see that? Um? The
White House press conference? Sarah Hugby basically like started the
press conference, turning it over to him, said something about, like,
(16:36):
I always loved to have marines as guests on our
press Strange, I guess it was. It was a very
strange setup. It was like, why are you doing this?
And then he he wasn't even really haking questions. He
just starts delivering this monologue about how, you know, oh
we're everybody's writing about how I'm here to control the
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president and control his tweets and I'm not here to
control him at all all. But then like also detailed
all these ways that he basically is, you know, orchestrating
things and trying to control the president. So it's like
he's saying what Trump wants to hear because that's specific.
We know Trump gets stuck on specific words, um, you know,
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and wants to shift away from that narrative. But then basically,
but I keep going back and forth between you know,
being worried that we're underestimating him and then like reading
these things coming out of the White House, and yeah,
like that that press conference, it was clear that he
was saying the thing. Like his subject line was like,
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I am not controlling the president, and he knew the
President was going to like stop there and like and
then everything he said underneath it was like trying to
calm the public. But like, because another story that came
out of the White House about Trump, out of that
same Vanity Fair article, aparently I've only read one article
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in the last month. Another story about Trump was that
he was just shouting, I hate everyone in the White House,
like it's just a like a like a fucking emo team.
Yeah yeah, like including himself. You know, it's really dark.
It started with him looking in the mirror and screaming yeah. Um.
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And then of course Quirker last week described it as
an adult day care, which, uh, we had a segment
about that in season one of The Daily Zeitgeist. Uh
last week that Allison wrote, Um, but all right, I
think we're gonna go to a break and when we
come back we're gonna get into the Bloyds. You guys
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Bloyd Watch and we're back for Bloyd Watch. H. Miles
as a way cooler than me. So basically, the premise
of this segment is that tabloids the things you see
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at the supermarkets with their salacious headlines that we all
just dismiss. Uh yeah, we all just dismiss other than Allison. Uh,
We're gonna be a little bit like the Men in
Black and in that we take we take the tabloids
more seriously. The most people here at the Daily Zeitgeist. Uh,
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the tabloids have had scoops. Uh. They were the first
publications to report that John Edwards was cheating on his
wife and had a love child with the which who No,
I'm not like saying that as an insult. She was
(19:58):
a self professor, was an actual. Yeah, she was like,
I use I use wicked powers to snag people, and
I found her I found her case pretty convincing that
she was an actual. Which did she snag John Edwards?
His wife was on her deathbed? Cool cool move, cool move.
Which they were among the first people to know that, uh,
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Steve Jobs was dying. Uh. They reported that they solved
Enis Cosby's murder. Uh. They solved a like key point
in the O J case. Oh yeah, he was like
wearing Bruno Magley shoes. They were the first people to
know that Swayze was dying. They apparently knew early last
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year that Val Kilmer head cancer, which I didn't even
realize that. They were just bragging about that. In the
addition that we were looking through um, I think they
knew it before Val Kilmer knew it. Um. But yeah,
they're they have the jump on a lot of stories. Uh. So, yeah,
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we wanna, we wanna go through the tabloids and see
see what we can find. Um. And so I get
to go into our local grocery store once once a
week and by all the tabloids off the shelf, ine
looks like a complete lunatic um. But you know, in
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addition to being occasionally right uh and knowing things before
anyone else, I also think that they are underrated in
terms of being a zeitgeist influencer. They get tons and
tons of eyeballs, like that's the one thing. Uh. No
matter how much technology changes, people still go to the
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grocery store and are still you know, passing by these headlines.
And that's significant because Trump is really tight with the
publisher who owns basically all the same company owns the
National enquire the Globe, US Weekly, Okay, National Examiner, also
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Muscle and Fitness, right, not people. No, they don't own
people people. You know, people people, So yeah, people still
of the people for the people. Yeah, but yeah, that
company can buy the people for the people people is
But yeah, they're all owned by that American Media Inc.
So the guy's name is David Pecker, who like owns
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all of these and he's just he's from Manhattan, and
like is the one person from Manhattan who was cool
with Trump prior to him running for president and was
pro Trump the whole time. That's why you see all
these like just horrible pictures of Hillary on the front
page of all these Uh. Also, we've noticed a strange
anti Steven Tyler bias and yes, the Enquirer and they're
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tabloids by David Pecker, and we were wondering why that
might be. Like, uh, last week we noticed that they
were making fun of how ugly his feet are, which,
by the way, his feet fucking they look that was
at his toes look like gangs it's crazy. That's just
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good journalism letting the people know that. But like they
also have a thing like sicko Stephen cuts and runs
that all that's about is that, like he had to
cut a vacation short because he had a medical procedure,
and like they don't say what the medical procedure is,
but they just used the fact that he had to
have a medical procedure to be like the sicko Stephen
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was on drugs all throughout the eighties and just like
bring up his I don't under are they mad at
him for ending a vacations. Miles has a theory on
this all stems back because Donald Trump was using dream
on at his rally and Steven Tyler was like, Yo,
do not do not use my music at your at
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your at your fucking crazy white nationalist bullshit rallies and
hit him with a season desists. So yeah, I think
that made him salty. And then all Trump's gotta do
is be like, hey, this is John Miller. I think
Steven Tyler's a piece sh writ which he has been
known to do. Do we actually have that audio of him?
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So this is Donald Trump calling. So Trump has a
relationship not just to David Pecker. But he he loves tabloids.
He used to call the tabloids as himself and plant uh,
you know, different like tips about him cheating on his wife.
But also other times he would call as a person
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who was claiming to be Donald Trump's associate named John Miller,
named John Miller. And then and somebody recorded that this
is this is him pretending to not be himself. What
you need to get job, I guess we're gonna try
and put it straining together. We get a dead by day.
He's coming out of a you know, marriage that and
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he and his thought he can do premendously well. Frankly,
it really ate to pray and you know that he's
probably doing as well as anybody there is. And thrankly
he wanted to keep it that way. And he just
thought always to make any commitment to anybody. But he
treated his wife well, and he treated and he won't
treat well well. And you know, he held many that
(25:31):
had a lot of options. And thankly he gets called
by everybody. He gets called by everybody in the book
he kept at women and they go, well, he gets
called by a lot of people. Yeah, well what about
it just Carling Bready, how important right now? You know,
I think I think it's I think it's somebody that
you know he is beautiful but want the quickly and
he's beautiful and all. But I think that I think
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thinking smooth General Miller, John Miller. Yeah, so guys, what
scoops did you find? Okay? Well, I was going through
US Weekly see and guys, this is this is a
tool for you, guys, so you don't have to embarrass
yourselves by buying these. Let us buy them and then
just tell you the weirdest ship that we read. One
of my favorite things was Loose Talk, where they just
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take quotes from celebrities, where Kim Kardashian says, uh, this
is a quote on meeting husband Kanye West. He was
asking his friends, who is this Kim kard agent? He
didn't know what my name was. Wow. So that's a
good way to always start. That's cool that you should
buy the tabloids in the stores though, because I guess,
like we have, they have this thing where you can
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open it up and you you hear the celebrities voices.
Now exactly. That wasn't a miles impression. That was just
that was camp in the studio, it felt like, um,
what do you got? Oh wait, hold on, I gotta
have I got a couple of really stupid ones. They
were also talking about a lot of celebrities having kids,
and one was Spencer and Heidi Pratt from the Hills
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Remember them. Uh so when when he was interviewed, he
said that on the birth of their son, Gunner, he said,
officially the most lit day of my life. Oh my gosh. Wow,
this this issue that I have is actually the cover
story is Heidi and Spencer's Spiky for those in the know, uh,
their miracle baby. Um. Let's also point out that they
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named their kid Gunner Gunner with an E. The day
was the day of or the day after? Holy sh it?
Like what? First of all, why why are you naming
your kid that to begin with? But like what what
poor timing and poor taste? Yeah? I mean, as an
Arsenal fan, I like the name Gunner because our nickname
the Gunners. But yeah, I think it should be with
the A R. Right, that's the other weird things we
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say are with the gunner anyway? Yeah, level, yeah, I've
I've Spencer Prats dead eyes staring at me right now.
The cover of this magazine over it. It's just like,
really are we doing? I'm looking at the mansion that O. J.
Simpson has holed up in, apparently having sex with a
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prostitute that looks exactly like Nicole, which is weird. Wait,
they have a door of the prostitute. Yes, how do
they know she's a prostitute? Um? Because she works for
the Bunny Ranch. I think, oh, oh, so he's in Nevada. Yeah, okay, yeah,
he's still in Nevada. I think I think as Parole
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might Hi State lines. Uh. He did get an iPhone though,
which was something that I was excited about because he's
been away from the outside world since before iPhones were
a thing. So when when O J went in yet
there was just flip phones. Um. Ben Affleck is spiraling,
(28:53):
you guys, deservedly so, I think, as we've seen in
recent days. Yeah, wait, what inspiraling in what way? I mean?
It's it's such an easy thing to say someone's spiraling
like he's living on the streets literally spinning. He's just staying. So.
He was in rehab earlier this year and has been
seen like drinking into all hours of the night recently.
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His face looks very puffy. He's got he's got that
puffy face that we have when where you know, when
when things aren't going so good. And jen uh, Jennifer
Gardner is now demanding that he get drug tested before
having visitation with their kids. Well, he, I mean, he
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definitely needs help, and I feel for him in that
aspect that you know, anyone dealing with addiction. It's a
very serious issue. And but yeah, the last few days,
what we've learned about his inappropriate, to say the least,
behavior around women, and also the the apology that he
tweeted to that like former MTV VJ tweeted tweeted apology
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he tweeted it was equivalent of just being like, my bad.
It didn't even hit the character limit. You know, I
couldn't even open the notes apphot, no punctuation, barely a sentence. Well,
you know, it could be a lot of guilt off
the fact that he him and Matt Damon know that, uh,
they didn't write good Will Hunting, right Jack, That's that's
(30:28):
that's that you know, it's conspiracy corner. Yes, I believe
that they did not write good Will Hunting. They wrote
a dress of good will hunting. Uh, that was a
spy thriller in which, uh you know that part where
the Jason Bourne movies, Well, that's right. Yeah, so that
part where he's going around getting interviewed by like different
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think tanks and spy agencies. He takes one of those
jobs and like goes and becomes like an international spy.
And uh, the screenwriter William Goldman, who's like a you know,
legendary screenwriter, supposedly just told them, why don't you cut
all that spy bullshit and just focus on, uh the
(31:12):
guy in Southey being a genius amongst his friends and
that's enough movie. Uh. I think that he did more
than just give them that one sentence piece of advice. Uh.
And uh, my logic is uh that first of all,
Matt Damon's movies all seemed to have this like the
roles he picks seemed to have this like, uh inner
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angst about being a fraud. Like his first the first
big role he picked coming out of Goodwill hunting. He
could have picked any role, and he chose The Town
and Mr Ripley, in which he's uh pretending to be
a better person than he really is. Uh, you know,
the Born movies he's like trying to forget past in
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which he did something bad. These dots are really uh.
The other the main piece of evidence, I'd say is
good Will Hunting is a great, great script. William Goldman
has written Butcher Cassie on The Sundance Kid, Princess Bride.
He's a great writer who was like somehow involved in
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claims he wasn't paid millions of dollars to rewrite it
and then pretend he didn't. Uh. Matt Damon has written
what since good Will Hunting? His name on checks and
that's it. He has people to do that, come on,
but he Yeah, it's just weird that a guy who
(32:38):
writes an incredible screenplay would just be like, yeah, yeah,
now that you guys that I know how to write,
I don't have to do this anymore. Chase, you already
saw what happened. So do you think people that work
for Mat Damon are sitting around like has anyone seen him? Right?
He has anyone seen him hold a pen? Have you
seen his signature? It's a smiley. It's just it's just
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an X. What are the goths you got in there?
That that is not in the tablet? Tabletid Well Speaking
of celebrity conspiracy theories, one of the stranger ones that
I discovered in this is in the National enquire is
that Stevie Wonder can see Stevie Wonder consist what evidence,
(33:22):
what evidence do they have? He's in one video he's
reaching out to embrace somebody and they're like, no way
he would be able to do that. At another point,
he snatches a falling microphone mid air. They're like, enough
evidence that he's legit blind exactly. Well, so this is
(33:43):
the thing that UH we discovered. Back at Cracked, we
had this uh section of the site personal Experiences, where
we would like talk to people who had different interesting
life experiences. And we talked to blind guy who had
a congenital condition that made him blind, and he was
saying that a thing that he and like his uncles
(34:04):
who were blind and his father who were blind, all
dealt with is people thinking that they were fakers like that,
that's a thing that blind people deal with, like punking
him like he was like my father had a coworker
who would always rearrange the stuff on his desk to
try and like prove that he was he wasn't actually
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blind and was faking and Italy had like a whole
like run of this where they like Italians were all
like trying to prove that they're blind, neighbors were like
just collecting a check and weren't really blind. It was
like there were like national opinion pieces being written at
the time about like how Italians need to get over
(34:49):
their suspicion of blind people. Uh so that's a weird,
weird imagine like public service posters on like a subway
or something like please just believe the blind people. Can
you just just to leave them alone? Yeah, they're just
hating because to say you're visually impaired or blind is
the easiest one because it's like you're saying you are
and you get to wear sunglasses all day. Right, So
I guess if you were like salty that you're working,
(35:10):
you're like this, he acted like he blind man, I
could do that to watch I'm blind, And I guess
that fuel is like their suspicion. Again, not to seem insensitive,
but you know what I mean, like it, Well, now
you've got me thinking about would it be the easiest one,
because like, if you pretend to be paralyzed, you just
have to sit all the but you could tickle I
could tickle you, and then you'd be like and then
(35:33):
got you paralyzed. I think for any of these, if
you were to pretend to be impaired somehow, you can
rely on the fact that most people don't know that
much about medical science and then just be like, well,
I'm you know, have seventy This is so offensive. I
should just stop your impression of paralyzed people's Yeah, I
have impression of paralyzed people. Sounds remarkably like Miles is
(35:55):
impression of Kim Kardashi pard agin as as you put um,
just closing things out on the on the Celebrity Death Watch,
they think Robert Redford is not looking good. Share also
not looking good. But yeah, I mean, their guesses, but
then we'll eventually pan out and then that's when they
(36:17):
take credit. But I told you would die. Yeah, like
when when Brad and Angelina broke up and I was like,
we called it. It's like you've been saying that for
a decade. And also Share that seems like a pretty
easy choice based on her ongoing Twitter feud with Donald Trump.
That didn't be like, yeah, Shares dying, She's dead, He's dying.
All the time. So uh, and not to pull a
(36:38):
card out of the Enquirer's book, but I what one
of my conspiracy theories that I told you guys about.
I knew I've been saying that Dolly Parton has tatted up,
sleeved up, and she finally admitted to having tattoos, I
think many years ago. And I just didn't notice, but
(36:59):
became like you you were someone that like had this
suspicion you didn't know that she just did having tattoos. Yeah,
it was my story, my scoop. That's why. That's why
she wears like long sleeve shirts just to hide her tattoos.
And also she wears like a weird little like fingerless
skin colored glove because she's hiding her hands tattoos. So well, yeah,
(37:25):
and and she said, you know she she has keylloy
tissue from scars, which is why she even gets a tattoos.
She said, not because she's trying to like flex on
people and be like you almost tied up, crazy person.
She just wanted to cover up some scars. Yeah, likely story.
And now she's covering up the cover ups. What else
is she covering? What else does Dolly Parton have to hide?
But she's behind rotten tomatoes. We'll connect those dots at
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a later episode. Uh, and we'll be right back after
these messages and we're back. Uh. We don't have a
lot of time left. But in that time, I did
want to bring on our Harvey Weinstein expert. Uh. Never
(38:19):
have time for me. And Uh so you've been following
the Weinstein story and the fallout and sort of the
uh yeah, the the chain reaction that this has caused
in Hollywood. Yeah, I've gone very deep into sexual harassment
claims and now I'm following everyone and I'm gonna start
smoking people out myself. Yeah, you smoked me out this morning. Yeah,
(38:45):
uh yeah, No. In my research, Um, you know, I
looked really deep into Alfred Hitchcock and I'm sorry, excuse
Alfred yeah Crow said Alfred Hitchcroc. Alfred Hitchcroc. He was
(39:06):
really terrible to the women in his movies. Yeah, and
tippy hedgrin, I say with a smile in my voice.
For some reason, like he was usually the best. I'd
just be in terrible. Yeah, God, what a classic. You
know what a Hollywood classic? Ledge? Um? Yeah, they apparently
one of the shots and the birds he the way
he got it was by tying an actual bird to
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her face and the bird just like scratched the ship
out of her. And apparently because Tippy turned him down
the night before, we tried to kiss her. Oh no,
and he's like, you'll kiss these birds, you'll kiss me,
you'll kiss my I mean, I didn't even tie a
(39:50):
bird to someone's face. Also one of the mechanics. Yeah yeah,
why is no one talking about the abuse towards the bird?
Come on? Whoa birds writes birds? Right? Birds? Its activist? Ah? Yeah?
And Amazon Studios head was just put on leave Mr
Roy Price for making inappropriate comments to a TV producer
of The Man in the High Castle. And this woman
(40:13):
came out about it in the summer and they didn't
do anything, so she came out again when the Weinstein
stuff happened. Was finally, oh maybe they'll take keep noticing
this stuff now. Yeah. Yeah, So the zero tolerance is
starting to become a thing now that Weinstein has been ousted. Yeah,
and I think, I mean, I think we're seeing you know,
there was the O'Reilly thing. There have been rumors about
(40:35):
him for a long time and then finally like he
was like there was enough smoke, and also people boycotted
the advertisers enough that they finally fired him, and then
Ales came right behind him. So like, I do think
that there's sort of a snowball effect where these predators
(40:56):
are being kind of smoked out. Yeah, And and to
to a little bit of that, Bloyd news Um I
was reading something about Holly Madison, a former Bunny who
was on the Girl's Next Door Show, talked recently a
lot about how abusive Hugh Hefner was like mentally and
what a rough time she had living in the mansion. Yeah,
(41:19):
the heir legacy is sorted that. I've been in the
mansion a few times and you can just like the
energy in certain places it's just like fucking bad. It's weird.
It's like like there's like a game room where like
there's a bunch of arcade machines, and then like there's
this other side room that has a like a temper
pedic floor essentially with like mirrors all around, and like
(41:42):
we were shooting a video and they're like had to
set up like some gear in there, and I was
just like this just Yeah. Myles used to work for
Playboy for the Boy as a model, as a model. Yeah,
and they told me I was too thick. You have
to tell that story that I was too thick guys. Yeah,
my Instagram, the story is just too thick. Just check
(42:06):
out check out my body. Um. Yeah, on Instagram, I
posted a picture like where like it was a bit
I did on some some video I was. I had
like goth makeup on and my mom texts me and
she's like, oh, I saw it and I'm not being
This is my mom Japanese voice, like, I saw a
picture of you we makeup on pretty. I said, yeah,
I'm experimenting with my sexuality. Her response is ha ha ha,
(42:29):
You're too thick. So I guess my mom was saying,
I am too thick bodied to even experiment with my sexually.
I don't attract men. Yeah, shout out to uh spooky Yuki.
Is that your nickname for Yeah, we call it spooky.
Your name is Yuki, but we like to it sounds
like a slur. Yeah, it's fun It's funny because I
used to live in the back house of like the
(42:50):
little guest house in uh like where my my mom's
house too. She was like, you're too thick to live
in the house. Score to the back, and like everyone
we would just be like, I don't know, smoking weed
back they're playing video games. And sometimes my mom's just
a fucking ninja dude, like it's creeping, just like, what
are you doing in there? And spooked U out? So
spooks spooks to the U. It's a term of ent,
(43:11):
dear man. I love you mom. Oh yeah. So anyway,
it's a good time for women to start coming out
about sexual abusers and hopefully more people in power who
have been abusing their power, if you will. The real
test will be when we see it happening to people
that are universally liked. Um. I mean, it took years
(43:31):
for anything to stick with Cosby, and then even like
when he was finally on trial, you have these depositions
where he's being like basically being like, yeah, I did it,
and then the jury's like and then yeah, and then
there's a miss trial. So I feel like, yeah, I
feel like it's kind of I don't know, like I'm
glad that this is happening, but it's also kind of
(43:53):
like you get a little bit of a piling on
because like nobody really liked Harvey Lenstein and I was
just afraid to say it. So it's like, in some
ways now it's like publicly okay to ship on Harvey Weinstein.
I think, like, you know, I don't know when we
find out that someone that we all love is a
huge monster, it's more like, oh I can't Maybe we
should hear both sides, Like I feel like that'll be
(44:15):
the real test, not even an example where they're telling
us to shut it down right now. I know people
are still defending Hitchcock. They won't give in to that.
They won't They claim Tippy's Lyne and like they won't
(44:36):
give would you Allen and Roman Pilantea. Its just like, well,
you know all these people that still do Wouldy Allen
movies and are just like I separate the the artists,
And it's just like, yeah, well I don't know if
those women can separate the assault from the artist. But
uh well, thank you Anna for coming on our Harvey Weinstein.
(44:59):
Every buddy, don't see me all right, We're gonna go
out on just a happy story. Uh These this couple
who got released by the Taliban Um and apparently had
three kids while in captivity, That is, how the fuck
(45:20):
are you going to have three you're in the Taliban
cave prison and you're like, you know, I can't imagine
how that's an environment where you're thinking, like when are
we going to get on? And are you trying to
fun distraction? Just give my mind off some ship. But
that poor woman, like I can't believe that the stressful
environment of being a Taliban prisoner and you're pregnant on
(45:42):
top of that, maybe she's into it, don't you know?
You don't victimize her when she's I mean, she's a
victim of the Taliban. But like in terms of relations,
you know, maybe some people have their like five year
plan and it's like I got I got this window
prime child barring years. We're not going to let a
little kidnapping get in the way. My biological clock is ticking.
I don't care where we are. They probably you know,
(46:05):
they asked the Taliban, like, can we like fry you guys?
Mindly just swick freezing her eggs while we're here. They're
just like nope, all right, I guess we'll like we
actually have a fertility claring a great prenatal care to
the Taliban, little note, tell your friends that you know
that that story doesn't get out enough about us the Taliban.
All right, that's gonna do it for us for episode
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one of season two, Season two, coming at you, Alison,
thank you so much for joining us, Thanks for having me.
Where can people find you? Um, you can find me
on Twitter at Alison L. Sideman and uh yeah that's enough.
Probably miles. Where can people find you? You can find
(46:49):
me probably a Chick fil A No wait, mat, maybe
it's the chicken is really good. I'm not gonna lie.
And you can find me at Jack Underscore. O'Brien. You
can follow the podcast at Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter. You
can follow us on Instagram at the Daily Zeitgeist. And
we have a Facebook page too, so go there. Like,
(47:10):
we're still working on getting the website up and running
so that we can get you guys foot notes. Yeah,
these are just lies that we're trying to push, right exactly.
Most of this is based on fact. The air sourcing.
All right, until tomorrow
Hello the Internet, and welcome to The Daily Zeitgeist for Monday,
October sixteenth, two thousand seventeen, episode one of season two.
My name is Jack O'Brien. I am joined as always
by my co host Mr Miles Grave. Hello. Always shout
out to UH, that one guy on Twitter who said
I was mad funny. Thank you so much. You kept
me from weeping last night. All right, And in our
(00:22):
third seat today is Adam Runs Everything writer and uh
a writer for The Daily Zeitgeist. Alison Zeidman. Hello, Hey,
what's up are you guys? We're I'm good, We're great.
We're excited to have you. Yeah, wow, you guys kiss
(00:45):
use her eye contact game right now. We don't make
eye contacts in the studio. I'm sorry, it's something new.
I'm just gonna look at my cuticles for the rest
of the show. Never looked at any of these people's
cassore Jackson had to look at another woman mothers in
the back. That's right. Let's get into your over under
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what what's something you believe is overrated? Alison? Okay, I'm
going to come out real, real strong, real hot, um
bacon overrated. I will add that I've only ever eating
bacon once. It was not a great experience. Wait, what's
so explain your relationship to pork with us that you've
(01:30):
only had bacon once. Okay, So I I grew up
Jewish and like we mostly kept kosher, and then as
an adult, I'm pretty much a vegetarian. But I did
try bacon once. Some friends had some bacon and they're like, um,
I think it was pretty crispy. Okay, yeah, was it
(01:51):
an applewood smoked I I don't know. It was like
it was probably like bodega bacon. It was a New York. Well,
we should have you back for a maybe a bacon bacon. Yes,
there are many like bacon, but that makes sense. I was.
I was just not impressed. Yeah, I can't get mad
at that. If I've been that, I'm missing out all
(02:12):
the If you're not a meat eater and then you
try it, like, I can see how. But if you
were like the most meat, yeah, exactly, the most meat meat. Um. Yeah,
I can't disagree. But that bacon might have been overrated.
I still can't say it's over it. I think it
has it's earned its spots. Bacon and my favorite. I
(02:33):
don't think it's overrated though, but I understand. I understand
where you're coming from, so I can't really hate on that. Yeah, alright,
what's underrated? That was very that was very understanding of
you guys. Okay, um, yeah, we're not like the internet.
That's like watching get some angry tweets. I hope, so
hopefully there's gonna be a whole comment thread about this
(02:56):
feminist anti bacon screw. Um. Okay, what's uh underrated? Underrated? Um?
I would say celebrity gossip, which I know we're gonna
be talking about later on the show, and I love it.
I can't get enough. I'm not really sure why. I've
tried to intellectualize it, Like there is someone who did,
(03:18):
like this Ted talk about how you know, so the
tendency to engage in gossip, in particular celebrity gossip, it's
like an anthropological lens for how we view society and
how we relate to one another. And it's like or
I just kind of can't get enough of the Kardashians
for some reason, like the schadenfreud of it too. It's
like they're broke. Love that Tori Spelling take that well,
(03:41):
I thought you were successful, but you're saying underrated in
that I think people don't take it take it, and
I do. I do kind of believe that it like
it does in some ways start conversations about society and
about how we relate to one another is human beings,
especially as more gross stuff comes out, Um, like take
the Kardashians like rob and Black China sparked some discussions
(04:06):
about domestic violence that maybe people wouldn't have had otherwise, right,
or like revenge porn? Right? Yeah, yeah for sure, Um so,
I guess And from an anthropological standpoint, like don't don't
they think that gossip is like how human language evolved
in the Yeah, like hiero like ancient Egyptian hieroglyphics. Apparently
a lot of it was like this bit. Yeah yeah,
(04:30):
it's like can you believe this this pharaoh was working
with this pharaoh pharaoh s? I don't know, can you
believe this snake scarub a Nubis head first? And then
like the hieroglyphic for an air horn? Right? All right?
I forgot to ask you, what's the weirdest thing you've
(04:51):
searched on Google in the past week? Oh? Um, I
should have looked, I should have checked about what I've
what I've been up to. It's probably some like dumb
skincare thing that's not weird. It's just like, why do
you think about this so much? Noticing? Wow, what's your regiment? Um,
I'll do a little plug for the ordinary. I'm a
(05:11):
big fan of that line, Well your skin is anything
but being hey skincare, it's I think that's underrated to
all the listeners out there. I want you to know
that I am an actual bridge troll and Miles is
being very kind. She has a sheet over her. That
paper bag looks amazing. Is that recycled? Is that all
(05:33):
post consumer? Or maybe we could try the segment whack
as person in your social media or weirdest person on
your social media if you have an example, which I
know you do. Um. You know we talked about this
a little before, and I just want to reiterate them
not judging, I'm not shaming. I'm just fascinated. Um, we're
(05:55):
not calling out names anymore. So. There's someone that I
know in real life if and also follow on Twitter
who a few months ago, me and a few friends
started noticing that he was constantly tweeting about the new
planet of the Apes movie and retweeting like every piece
(06:15):
of news, marketing, promotions, everything about the movie, and it's like,
what's going on? Like is he working on this film
in some capacity? Which I didn't think? So? Is he
friends with someone who works on the movie? Is he
just that big a fan? And after you know, some investigation,
which is basically just like dm ng other people that
(06:38):
know this person on Twitter and be like, do you
know what's up with this? And like now I've been
trying to figure out too. Some people asked him directly
and uh, he just like evaded the question and just
like ha ha, yeah, who knows. I was just like, what, like,
if you are like a big fan, just say I
don't know. So, yeah, where is he like one of
these bots paid by the studio to enthusiasm about the film? Yeah? Honestly,
(07:00):
it looked like his account was hacked. But then like
one of the people that I was, I was like
dm NG with like three different people at the same time,
all about this situation. Because I had tweeted, like without
like naming a name or anything. I was just sort
of like tweeting about how I wanted This is like
the great mystery of my life. And I feel like
I want to know what's behind it. Um. So someone
sent my screenshots of like his Facebook account where like
(07:21):
people were asking, like he's also posting the stuff on
Facebook and people were asking like in the comments, and
he's engaging with them, So it seems like it's not
just like an account hacker bots. He just is so
down with the Planet of the Apes movie. Yeah, and
has anybody tried trolling him and just being like, Yo,
that movie sucks. I know what I'm doing this week.
(07:42):
This week you should because now he's at it again.
He's apparently at it again because now it's coming out
on DVD, So he was like tweeting about like how
excited he is for the DVD. Only people who work
for movie studios talk about dv released, but like he
definitely doesn't. He definitely like he's not even in this
isn't someone I know from LA. I'm not gonna get
(08:04):
like two specific because again, like I don't if you know,
on the off chance that they are listening, I don't
want I'm not making fun of it. I'm just genuinely
interested and wanted me for the job you want, right,
Maybe what they say he wants to be An eight.
He wants to be a right. Maybe it work, but
it's too Like everyone I know, people who like work
at Universal and they're like, man, Fast Fast Furious eight
DVD just came out, can't wait. I'm like, motherfucker, do
(08:26):
you even have a dvd? FLA, what are you doing
looking blu ray? Like, okay, anyway, I found Andy Circus's
performance over the top end Hendy as excuse you. He
touched my heart, like literally nobody got excited about that.
But like it was in the nineties on Rotten Tomato,
I think, or like, uh, you know, eighties nineties on
(08:48):
Rotten Tomatoes. By the way, we need you're talking about
my rotten tomatoes conspiracy theory at some point, but you
can't just tease that and then Jack's conspiracy themes conspiracy
theory themes. So that's how excited everybody on the show gets. Uh.
I find it weird, like it seems arbitrary at certain points,
(09:08):
whether they give something a rotten or fresh, Like when
you look down to the individual reviews, like sometimes it
will seem like a negative review and it will get
a fresh, and sometimes it will seem like a positive
review and I'll get a rotten and so I think
there must be like some payment going on, like because
and also like when you compare Metacritic scores to Rotten
(09:31):
Tomato scores, like there will be movies that are like
in the nineties on Rotten Tomato that when you actually
look at the Metacritic score, which is more detailed and
takes the actual like star ratings and like number ratings
into account, like, it's way lower. So I just think,
I think something's going on there. I I want to know, Yeah,
you should, you should follow this threat. I want to
(09:53):
know what the process is for determining whether like a
two and a half to three star review gets a
rot no refresh. I'm coming for you. We're gonna go.
But let's let's move to less important things, uh, like
potential nuclear war that we're all facing. Um, yeah, exactly. Uh.
(10:21):
So I did want to talk about the fact that
the fate of the universe hangs in the balance right now,
is in the hands of somebody, the tiny, tiny trembling
hands of Donald Trump, who uh you know, there has
(10:43):
been speculation by Republicans uh that General Kelly and Maddie
uh are have probably had conversations about you know, whether
they would physically tackle and physically restrain Trump were he
to try and like take the nuclear football. And I
(11:04):
don't know how football work, but I'm pretty sure they
just have the launch codes. Right. So there are four
things in the football. There's the black book containing the
retaliatory options, a book listing classified site locations, a Manila
folder with eight or ten pages staple together giving a
description of procedures for the emergency alert system. And a
three by five inch card with the authentication codes. Okay,
(11:27):
So knowing all that now, I feel fine because Trump's
not going to read that much. He's not. He's he
can't read. He can't he can't read. He doesn't like reading.
We know that his aids have to give him like
tweet length, lots of pictures, one sheets every day. He'll
get bored halfway through and just give up. So, just
(11:49):
to give some historical context, uh, President John F. Kennedy,
when he got into office, he found that the generals,
the the people who were currently counting on to like
restore order and rain Trump in. Uh, those people during
(12:09):
his administration were constantly pushing him to start a nuclear
war with Russia like it didn't matter, like any chance
they got, especially during the Cuban Missile crisis in particular,
but um, they they were basically furious that America hadn't
(12:31):
used our nuclear weapons in the Korean War. They were like,
how how could we not win that war? We have
nuclear weapons and so like he basically it was like
him versus a room full of generals during the Cuban
Missile crisis and he was like the only one being like, no,
we're not like dropping bombs on Cuba, and they're like,
(12:51):
we'll get your dad's gun. We want to see it quick. Um.
So yeah, it's that's how presidencies usually work. And now
we're at a place where we're counting on those guys
to stand in between Trump and you know, bombing North
(13:13):
Korea to distract people from the investigation into Russian meddling,
which is that what you're referring to is that UK
think tank, right? The UK think tank says that they
think that the natural next sort of step and the
Trump administration's actions is to start a war with Korea
(13:35):
in order to distract from the Mullayer investigation. Cool cool,
So all right, yeah, where we all move into to
avoid the black rain? Any ideas, No everyone just kind
of said, everyone's resigned to the back, Like, I guess
I'll just melt here. I guess Russia. It sounds like
they won't have their eye. They're right, probably the safest
place to be. Yeah, maybe Russia is the safest place.
(13:58):
Can you imagine the influx of elite American immigrants into Russia? Right? So,
I guess the next question is how do we get
out of this situation? And Uh, Steve Bannon, Trump's best pal,
uh confided in somebody that he thinks Trump only has
a thirty percent chance of getting through his entire first term,
(14:22):
which I think is most Americans dream at this point
is that he either you know, gets impeached or they
used the twenty Amendment to you know, declare him unfit
for office. Trump doesn't even know what or maybe he
does now, but he totally didn't know what amendment? Right
(14:44):
is that? So Bannon said, I you need to watch
out for the twenty amendment And he said, what's that? Yeah?
Like I think it was something more like I think
Trump was I worry about impeachment or talking about impeachment, impeachment,
and and Bandon was like, you should also probably be
more worried about the twenty fifth Amendment, and he's like
the twenty one who Yeah, And that's how we know
that Trump doesn't watch the West wing, right, because that's
(15:08):
how I learned about the amendment. UM. And you know what,
maybe I shouldn't have admitted that I learned it in
my years of constitutional study, right, not from studying sorganisms right.
And there's some people who think that Kelly promoted his
long time lieutenant Christian Nielsen to Homeland Security head uh
(15:33):
to like build numbers towards amendment movie exactly. Yeah. So
when you look at the twenty amendent, basically what it
takes is the vice president plus a majority of the cabinet.
So that means thirteen of the twenty four cabinet members
have to declare the president unfit to invoke the amendment.
But Trump can basically push back and say, like, no,
(15:53):
I disagree, I should I should? Uh? I should I
should still be president. Uh. And if if that's the case,
then they would need a supermajority from Congress in both
houses to actually uphold the vice president and cabinets. What's
the supermajority so that means, over I believe two thirds
or three fours hold on two thirds. So yeah, a
(16:14):
supermajority would mean two thirds of all House and Senate members,
So which is what they would inevitably need. Because Trump
has never thought himself unfit for anything. Kelly's making some moves,
he seems that did you guys see that? Um? The
White House press conference? Sarah Hugby basically like started the
press conference, turning it over to him, said something about, like,
(16:36):
I always loved to have marines as guests on our
press Strange, I guess it was. It was a very
strange setup. It was like, why are you doing this?
And then he he wasn't even really haking questions. He
just starts delivering this monologue about how, you know, oh
we're everybody's writing about how I'm here to control the
(16:56):
president and control his tweets and I'm not here to
control him at all all. But then like also detailed
all these ways that he basically is, you know, orchestrating
things and trying to control the president. So it's like
he's saying what Trump wants to hear because that's specific.
We know Trump gets stuck on specific words, um, you know,
(17:17):
and wants to shift away from that narrative. But then basically,
but I keep going back and forth between you know,
being worried that we're underestimating him and then like reading
these things coming out of the White House, and yeah,
like that that press conference, it was clear that he
was saying the thing. Like his subject line was like,
(17:41):
I am not controlling the president, and he knew the
President was going to like stop there and like and
then everything he said underneath it was like trying to
calm the public. But like, because another story that came
out of the White House about Trump, out of that
same Vanity Fair article, aparently I've only read one article
(18:01):
in the last month. Another story about Trump was that
he was just shouting, I hate everyone in the White House,
like it's just a like a like a fucking emo team.
Yeah yeah, like including himself. You know, it's really dark.
It started with him looking in the mirror and screaming yeah. Um.
(18:26):
And then of course Quirker last week described it as
an adult day care, which, uh, we had a segment
about that in season one of The Daily Zeitgeist. Uh
last week that Allison wrote, Um, but all right, I
think we're gonna go to a break and when we
come back we're gonna get into the Bloyds. You guys
(18:47):
Bloyd Watch and we're back for Bloyd Watch. H. Miles
as a way cooler than me. So basically, the premise
of this segment is that tabloids the things you see
(19:13):
at the supermarkets with their salacious headlines that we all
just dismiss. Uh yeah, we all just dismiss other than Allison. Uh,
We're gonna be a little bit like the Men in
Black and in that we take we take the tabloids
more seriously. The most people here at the Daily Zeitgeist. Uh,
(19:36):
the tabloids have had scoops. Uh. They were the first
publications to report that John Edwards was cheating on his
wife and had a love child with the which who No,
I'm not like saying that as an insult. She was
(19:58):
a self professor, was an actual. Yeah, she was like,
I use I use wicked powers to snag people, and
I found her I found her case pretty convincing that
she was an actual. Which did she snag John Edwards?
His wife was on her deathbed? Cool cool move, cool move.
Which they were among the first people to know that, uh,
(20:22):
Steve Jobs was dying. Uh. They reported that they solved
Enis Cosby's murder. Uh. They solved a like key point
in the O J case. Oh yeah, he was like
wearing Bruno Magley shoes. They were the first people to
know that Swayze was dying. They apparently knew early last
(20:46):
year that Val Kilmer head cancer, which I didn't even
realize that. They were just bragging about that. In the
addition that we were looking through um, I think they
knew it before Val Kilmer knew it. Um. But yeah,
they're they have the jump on a lot of stories. Uh. So, yeah,
(21:06):
we wanna, we wanna go through the tabloids and see
see what we can find. Um. And so I get
to go into our local grocery store once once a
week and by all the tabloids off the shelf, ine
looks like a complete lunatic um. But you know, in
(21:28):
addition to being occasionally right uh and knowing things before
anyone else, I also think that they are underrated in
terms of being a zeitgeist influencer. They get tons and
tons of eyeballs, like that's the one thing. Uh. No
matter how much technology changes, people still go to the
(21:51):
grocery store and are still you know, passing by these headlines.
And that's significant because Trump is really tight with the
publisher who owns basically all the same company owns the
National enquire the Globe, US Weekly, Okay, National Examiner, also
(22:14):
Muscle and Fitness, right, not people. No, they don't own
people people. You know, people people, So yeah, people still
of the people for the people. Yeah, but yeah, that
company can buy the people for the people people is
But yeah, they're all owned by that American Media Inc.
So the guy's name is David Pecker, who like owns
(22:34):
all of these and he's just he's from Manhattan, and
like is the one person from Manhattan who was cool
with Trump prior to him running for president and was
pro Trump the whole time. That's why you see all
these like just horrible pictures of Hillary on the front
page of all these Uh. Also, we've noticed a strange
anti Steven Tyler bias and yes, the Enquirer and they're
(23:00):
tabloids by David Pecker, and we were wondering why that
might be. Like, uh, last week we noticed that they
were making fun of how ugly his feet are, which,
by the way, his feet fucking they look that was
at his toes look like gangs it's crazy. That's just
(23:20):
good journalism letting the people know that. But like they
also have a thing like sicko Stephen cuts and runs
that all that's about is that, like he had to
cut a vacation short because he had a medical procedure,
and like they don't say what the medical procedure is,
but they just used the fact that he had to
have a medical procedure to be like the sicko Stephen
(23:42):
was on drugs all throughout the eighties and just like
bring up his I don't under are they mad at
him for ending a vacations. Miles has a theory on
this all stems back because Donald Trump was using dream
on at his rally and Steven Tyler was like, Yo,
do not do not use my music at your at
(24:05):
your at your fucking crazy white nationalist bullshit rallies and
hit him with a season desists. So yeah, I think
that made him salty. And then all Trump's gotta do
is be like, hey, this is John Miller. I think
Steven Tyler's a piece sh writ which he has been
known to do. Do we actually have that audio of him?
(24:25):
So this is Donald Trump calling. So Trump has a
relationship not just to David Pecker. But he he loves tabloids.
He used to call the tabloids as himself and plant uh,
you know, different like tips about him cheating on his wife.
But also other times he would call as a person
(24:48):
who was claiming to be Donald Trump's associate named John Miller,
named John Miller. And then and somebody recorded that this
is this is him pretending to not be himself. What
you need to get job, I guess we're gonna try
and put it straining together. We get a dead by day.
He's coming out of a you know, marriage that and
(25:11):
he and his thought he can do premendously well. Frankly,
it really ate to pray and you know that he's
probably doing as well as anybody there is. And thrankly
he wanted to keep it that way. And he just
thought always to make any commitment to anybody. But he
treated his wife well, and he treated and he won't
treat well well. And you know, he held many that
(25:31):
had a lot of options. And thankly he gets called
by everybody. He gets called by everybody in the book
he kept at women and they go, well, he gets
called by a lot of people. Yeah, well what about
it just Carling Bready, how important right now? You know,
I think I think it's I think it's somebody that
you know he is beautiful but want the quickly and
he's beautiful and all. But I think that I think
(25:59):
thinking smooth General Miller, John Miller. Yeah, so guys, what
scoops did you find? Okay? Well, I was going through
US Weekly see and guys, this is this is a
tool for you, guys, so you don't have to embarrass
yourselves by buying these. Let us buy them and then
just tell you the weirdest ship that we read. One
of my favorite things was Loose Talk, where they just
(26:20):
take quotes from celebrities, where Kim Kardashian says, uh, this
is a quote on meeting husband Kanye West. He was
asking his friends, who is this Kim kard agent? He
didn't know what my name was. Wow. So that's a
good way to always start. That's cool that you should
buy the tabloids in the stores though, because I guess,
like we have, they have this thing where you can
(26:41):
open it up and you you hear the celebrities voices.
Now exactly. That wasn't a miles impression. That was just
that was camp in the studio, it felt like, um,
what do you got? Oh wait, hold on, I gotta
have I got a couple of really stupid ones. They
were also talking about a lot of celebrities having kids,
and one was Spencer and Heidi Pratt from the Hills
(27:03):
Remember them. Uh so when when he was interviewed, he
said that on the birth of their son, Gunner, he said,
officially the most lit day of my life. Oh my gosh. Wow,
this this issue that I have is actually the cover
story is Heidi and Spencer's Spiky for those in the know, uh,
their miracle baby. Um. Let's also point out that they
(27:25):
named their kid Gunner Gunner with an E. The day
was the day of or the day after? Holy sh it?
Like what? First of all, why why are you naming
your kid that to begin with? But like what what
poor timing and poor taste? Yeah? I mean, as an
Arsenal fan, I like the name Gunner because our nickname
the Gunners. But yeah, I think it should be with
the A R. Right, that's the other weird things we
(27:47):
say are with the gunner anyway? Yeah, level, yeah, I've
I've Spencer Prats dead eyes staring at me right now.
The cover of this magazine over it. It's just like,
really are we doing? I'm looking at the mansion that O. J.
Simpson has holed up in, apparently having sex with a
(28:08):
prostitute that looks exactly like Nicole, which is weird. Wait,
they have a door of the prostitute. Yes, how do
they know she's a prostitute? Um? Because she works for
the Bunny Ranch. I think, oh, oh, so he's in Nevada. Yeah, okay, yeah,
he's still in Nevada. I think I think as Parole
(28:30):
might Hi State lines. Uh. He did get an iPhone though,
which was something that I was excited about because he's
been away from the outside world since before iPhones were
a thing. So when when O J went in yet
there was just flip phones. Um. Ben Affleck is spiraling,
(28:53):
you guys, deservedly so, I think, as we've seen in
recent days. Yeah, wait, what inspiraling in what way? I mean?
It's it's such an easy thing to say someone's spiraling
like he's living on the streets literally spinning. He's just staying. So.
He was in rehab earlier this year and has been
seen like drinking into all hours of the night recently.
(29:17):
His face looks very puffy. He's got he's got that
puffy face that we have when where you know, when
when things aren't going so good. And jen uh, Jennifer
Gardner is now demanding that he get drug tested before
having visitation with their kids. Well, he, I mean, he
(29:40):
definitely needs help, and I feel for him in that
aspect that you know, anyone dealing with addiction. It's a
very serious issue. And but yeah, the last few days,
what we've learned about his inappropriate, to say the least,
behavior around women, and also the the apology that he
tweeted to that like former MTV VJ tweeted tweeted apology
(30:03):
he tweeted it was equivalent of just being like, my bad.
It didn't even hit the character limit. You know, I
couldn't even open the notes apphot, no punctuation, barely a sentence. Well,
you know, it could be a lot of guilt off
the fact that he him and Matt Damon know that, uh,
they didn't write good Will Hunting, right Jack, That's that's
(30:28):
that's that you know, it's conspiracy corner. Yes, I believe
that they did not write good Will Hunting. They wrote
a dress of good will hunting. Uh, that was a
spy thriller in which, uh you know that part where
the Jason Bourne movies, Well, that's right. Yeah, so that
part where he's going around getting interviewed by like different
(30:52):
think tanks and spy agencies. He takes one of those
jobs and like goes and becomes like an international spy.
And uh, the screenwriter William Goldman, who's like a you know,
legendary screenwriter, supposedly just told them, why don't you cut
all that spy bullshit and just focus on, uh the
(31:12):
guy in Southey being a genius amongst his friends and
that's enough movie. Uh. I think that he did more
than just give them that one sentence piece of advice. Uh.
And uh, my logic is uh that first of all,
Matt Damon's movies all seemed to have this like the
roles he picks seemed to have this like, uh inner
(31:36):
angst about being a fraud. Like his first the first
big role he picked coming out of Goodwill hunting. He
could have picked any role, and he chose The Town
and Mr Ripley, in which he's uh pretending to be
a better person than he really is. Uh, you know,
the Born movies he's like trying to forget past in
(31:57):
which he did something bad. These dots are really uh.
The other the main piece of evidence, I'd say is
good Will Hunting is a great, great script. William Goldman
has written Butcher Cassie on The Sundance Kid, Princess Bride.
He's a great writer who was like somehow involved in
(32:18):
claims he wasn't paid millions of dollars to rewrite it
and then pretend he didn't. Uh. Matt Damon has written
what since good Will Hunting? His name on checks and
that's it. He has people to do that, come on,
but he Yeah, it's just weird that a guy who
(32:38):
writes an incredible screenplay would just be like, yeah, yeah,
now that you guys that I know how to write,
I don't have to do this anymore. Chase, you already
saw what happened. So do you think people that work
for Mat Damon are sitting around like has anyone seen him? Right?
He has anyone seen him hold a pen? Have you
seen his signature? It's a smiley. It's just it's just
(33:02):
an X. What are the goths you got in there?
That that is not in the tablet? Tabletid Well Speaking
of celebrity conspiracy theories, one of the stranger ones that
I discovered in this is in the National enquire is
that Stevie Wonder can see Stevie Wonder consist what evidence,
(33:22):
what evidence do they have? He's in one video he's
reaching out to embrace somebody and they're like, no way
he would be able to do that. At another point,
he snatches a falling microphone mid air. They're like, enough
evidence that he's legit blind exactly. Well, so this is
(33:43):
the thing that UH we discovered. Back at Cracked, we
had this uh section of the site personal Experiences, where
we would like talk to people who had different interesting
life experiences. And we talked to blind guy who had
a congenital condition that made him blind, and he was
saying that a thing that he and like his uncles
(34:04):
who were blind and his father who were blind, all
dealt with is people thinking that they were fakers like that,
that's a thing that blind people deal with, like punking
him like he was like my father had a coworker
who would always rearrange the stuff on his desk to
try and like prove that he was he wasn't actually
(34:24):
blind and was faking and Italy had like a whole
like run of this where they like Italians were all
like trying to prove that they're blind, neighbors were like
just collecting a check and weren't really blind. It was
like there were like national opinion pieces being written at
the time about like how Italians need to get over
(34:49):
their suspicion of blind people. Uh so that's a weird,
weird imagine like public service posters on like a subway
or something like please just believe the blind people. Can
you just just to leave them alone? Yeah, they're just
hating because to say you're visually impaired or blind is
the easiest one because it's like you're saying you are
and you get to wear sunglasses all day. Right, So
I guess if you were like salty that you're working,
(35:10):
you're like this, he acted like he blind man, I
could do that to watch I'm blind, And I guess
that fuel is like their suspicion. Again, not to seem insensitive,
but you know what I mean, like it, Well, now
you've got me thinking about would it be the easiest one,
because like, if you pretend to be paralyzed, you just
have to sit all the but you could tickle I
could tickle you, and then you'd be like and then
(35:33):
got you paralyzed. I think for any of these, if
you were to pretend to be impaired somehow, you can
rely on the fact that most people don't know that
much about medical science and then just be like, well,
I'm you know, have seventy This is so offensive. I
should just stop your impression of paralyzed people's Yeah, I
have impression of paralyzed people. Sounds remarkably like Miles is
(35:55):
impression of Kim Kardashi pard agin as as you put um,
just closing things out on the on the Celebrity Death Watch,
they think Robert Redford is not looking good. Share also
not looking good. But yeah, I mean, their guesses, but
then we'll eventually pan out and then that's when they
(36:17):
take credit. But I told you would die. Yeah, like
when when Brad and Angelina broke up and I was like,
we called it. It's like you've been saying that for
a decade. And also Share that seems like a pretty
easy choice based on her ongoing Twitter feud with Donald Trump.
That didn't be like, yeah, Shares dying, She's dead, He's dying.
All the time. So uh, and not to pull a
(36:38):
card out of the Enquirer's book, but I what one
of my conspiracy theories that I told you guys about.
I knew I've been saying that Dolly Parton has tatted up,
sleeved up, and she finally admitted to having tattoos, I
think many years ago. And I just didn't notice, but
(36:59):
became like you you were someone that like had this
suspicion you didn't know that she just did having tattoos. Yeah,
it was my story, my scoop. That's why. That's why
she wears like long sleeve shirts just to hide her tattoos.
And also she wears like a weird little like fingerless
skin colored glove because she's hiding her hands tattoos. So well, yeah,
(37:25):
and and she said, you know she she has keylloy
tissue from scars, which is why she even gets a tattoos.
She said, not because she's trying to like flex on
people and be like you almost tied up, crazy person.
She just wanted to cover up some scars. Yeah, likely story.
And now she's covering up the cover ups. What else
is she covering? What else does Dolly Parton have to hide?
But she's behind rotten tomatoes. We'll connect those dots at
(37:50):
a later episode. Uh, and we'll be right back after
these messages and we're back. Uh. We don't have a
lot of time left. But in that time, I did
want to bring on our Harvey Weinstein expert. Uh. Never
(38:19):
have time for me. And Uh so you've been following
the Weinstein story and the fallout and sort of the
uh yeah, the the chain reaction that this has caused
in Hollywood. Yeah, I've gone very deep into sexual harassment
claims and now I'm following everyone and I'm gonna start
smoking people out myself. Yeah, you smoked me out this morning. Yeah,
(38:45):
uh yeah, No. In my research, Um, you know, I
looked really deep into Alfred Hitchcock and I'm sorry, excuse
Alfred yeah Crow said Alfred Hitchcroc. Alfred Hitchcroc. He was
(39:06):
really terrible to the women in his movies. Yeah, and
tippy hedgrin, I say with a smile in my voice.
For some reason, like he was usually the best. I'd
just be in terrible. Yeah, God, what a classic. You
know what a Hollywood classic? Ledge? Um? Yeah, they apparently
one of the shots and the birds he the way
he got it was by tying an actual bird to
(39:29):
her face and the bird just like scratched the ship
out of her. And apparently because Tippy turned him down
the night before, we tried to kiss her. Oh no,
and he's like, you'll kiss these birds, you'll kiss me,
you'll kiss my I mean, I didn't even tie a
(39:50):
bird to someone's face. Also one of the mechanics. Yeah yeah,
why is no one talking about the abuse towards the bird?
Come on? Whoa birds writes birds? Right? Birds? Its activist? Ah? Yeah?
And Amazon Studios head was just put on leave Mr
Roy Price for making inappropriate comments to a TV producer
of The Man in the High Castle. And this woman
(40:13):
came out about it in the summer and they didn't
do anything, so she came out again when the Weinstein
stuff happened. Was finally, oh maybe they'll take keep noticing
this stuff now. Yeah. Yeah, So the zero tolerance is
starting to become a thing now that Weinstein has been ousted. Yeah,
and I think, I mean, I think we're seeing you know,
there was the O'Reilly thing. There have been rumors about
(40:35):
him for a long time and then finally like he
was like there was enough smoke, and also people boycotted
the advertisers enough that they finally fired him, and then
Ales came right behind him. So like, I do think
that there's sort of a snowball effect where these predators
(40:56):
are being kind of smoked out. Yeah, And and to
to a little bit of that, Bloyd news Um I
was reading something about Holly Madison, a former Bunny who
was on the Girl's Next Door Show, talked recently a
lot about how abusive Hugh Hefner was like mentally and
what a rough time she had living in the mansion. Yeah,
(41:19):
the heir legacy is sorted that. I've been in the
mansion a few times and you can just like the
energy in certain places it's just like fucking bad. It's weird.
It's like like there's like a game room where like
there's a bunch of arcade machines, and then like there's
this other side room that has a like a temper
pedic floor essentially with like mirrors all around, and like
(41:42):
we were shooting a video and they're like had to
set up like some gear in there, and I was
just like this just Yeah. Myles used to work for
Playboy for the Boy as a model, as a model. Yeah,
and they told me I was too thick. You have
to tell that story that I was too thick guys. Yeah,
my Instagram, the story is just too thick. Just check
(42:06):
out check out my body. Um. Yeah, on Instagram, I
posted a picture like where like it was a bit
I did on some some video I was. I had
like goth makeup on and my mom texts me and
she's like, oh, I saw it and I'm not being
This is my mom Japanese voice, like, I saw a
picture of you we makeup on pretty. I said, yeah,
I'm experimenting with my sexuality. Her response is ha ha ha,
(42:29):
You're too thick. So I guess my mom was saying,
I am too thick bodied to even experiment with my sexually.
I don't attract men. Yeah, shout out to uh spooky Yuki.
Is that your nickname for Yeah, we call it spooky.
Your name is Yuki, but we like to it sounds
like a slur. Yeah, it's fun It's funny because I
used to live in the back house of like the
(42:50):
little guest house in uh like where my my mom's
house too. She was like, you're too thick to live
in the house. Score to the back, and like everyone
we would just be like, I don't know, smoking weed
back they're playing video games. And sometimes my mom's just
a fucking ninja dude, like it's creeping, just like, what
are you doing in there? And spooked U out? So
spooks spooks to the U. It's a term of ent,
(43:11):
dear man. I love you mom. Oh yeah. So anyway,
it's a good time for women to start coming out
about sexual abusers and hopefully more people in power who
have been abusing their power, if you will. The real
test will be when we see it happening to people
that are universally liked. Um. I mean, it took years
(43:31):
for anything to stick with Cosby, and then even like
when he was finally on trial, you have these depositions
where he's being like basically being like, yeah, I did it,
and then the jury's like and then yeah, and then
there's a miss trial. So I feel like, yeah, I
feel like it's kind of I don't know, like I'm
glad that this is happening, but it's also kind of
(43:53):
like you get a little bit of a piling on
because like nobody really liked Harvey Lenstein and I was
just afraid to say it. So it's like, in some
ways now it's like publicly okay to ship on Harvey Weinstein.
I think, like, you know, I don't know when we
find out that someone that we all love is a
huge monster, it's more like, oh I can't Maybe we
should hear both sides, Like I feel like that'll be
(44:15):
the real test, not even an example where they're telling
us to shut it down right now. I know people
are still defending Hitchcock. They won't give in to that.
They won't They claim Tippy's Lyne and like they won't
(44:36):
give would you Allen and Roman Pilantea. Its just like, well,
you know all these people that still do Wouldy Allen
movies and are just like I separate the the artists,
And it's just like, yeah, well I don't know if
those women can separate the assault from the artist. But
uh well, thank you Anna for coming on our Harvey Weinstein.
(44:59):
Every buddy, don't see me all right, We're gonna go
out on just a happy story. Uh These this couple
who got released by the Taliban Um and apparently had
three kids while in captivity, That is, how the fuck
(45:20):
are you going to have three you're in the Taliban
cave prison and you're like, you know, I can't imagine
how that's an environment where you're thinking, like when are
we going to get on? And are you trying to
fun distraction? Just give my mind off some ship. But
that poor woman, like I can't believe that the stressful
environment of being a Taliban prisoner and you're pregnant on
(45:42):
top of that, maybe she's into it, don't you know?
You don't victimize her when she's I mean, she's a
victim of the Taliban. But like in terms of relations,
you know, maybe some people have their like five year
plan and it's like I got I got this window
prime child barring years. We're not going to let a
little kidnapping get in the way. My biological clock is ticking.
I don't care where we are. They probably you know,
(46:05):
they asked the Taliban, like, can we like fry you guys?
Mindly just swick freezing her eggs while we're here. They're
just like nope, all right, I guess we'll like we
actually have a fertility claring a great prenatal care to
the Taliban, little note, tell your friends that you know
that that story doesn't get out enough about us the Taliban.
All right, that's gonna do it for us for episode
(46:27):
one of season two, Season two, coming at you, Alison,
thank you so much for joining us, Thanks for having me.
Where can people find you? Um, you can find me
on Twitter at Alison L. Sideman and uh yeah that's enough.
Probably miles. Where can people find you? You can find
(46:49):
me probably a Chick fil A No wait, mat, maybe
it's the chicken is really good. I'm not gonna lie.
And you can find me at Jack Underscore. O'Brien. You
can follow the podcast at Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter. You
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(47:10):
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these are just lies that we're trying to push, right exactly.
Most of this is based on fact. The air sourcing.
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The Joe Rogan Experience
The official podcast of comedian Joe Rogan.