Trump’s “Funny” Indian Voice, Has WW3 Already Started? 8.14.18

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season forty four, episode
two of The Daily Night Guys for Tuesday, August fourteenth,
two eight. Team, my name's Jack O'Brien a K. You're
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about to counter you with ghost bed is that first
of all, who as we are thrilled to be joined
by one of the great gonzo journalists and funniest, smartest
duds I know, Mr Robert Evans. I don't have a
rapt sorry, ok Matt yep oh yeah, okay, Matt hard assay. Yeah,

(01:32):
what's up man? Yeah, not much. I was at a
unite the right two point oh, I know, a good
day and a half ago. Right, and on the side
of the yes, Yes, I've been a white supremacist. He's
taking it down from the inside, right white klansman. Uh
not quite as good a title. Uh so unimpressive, unimpressed

(01:55):
with their turn out. Yeah, it's more that I was
happy and gratified to see how many people came out
to march against them. Yeah. I think the importance of
getting five thousand, however many thousand people to show up
to protest Nazis when they march is important for the
same reason why you should do pull ups in the morning,
Like you're not gonna need to lift yourself up every day,
but every now and then you'll run into a situation
where it's useful to have that kind of strength, and

(02:17):
it's protested the same thing. It's like it's building a muzzle.
That's like a Chinese proverb. Yeah, you don't have to
do a pull up every day, you might have to
pull up with that energy. Well, we're going to hear
more wise Chinese proverbs from the mouth of Robert Evans.
But first we are going to tell our listeners what
they're in store for. We're going to talk about the

(02:37):
Manifort trial where the defense just rested. We're not calling
witness uh, we call that a mic drop. We're going
to check out some of the highlights from def Con,
the hacker convention. What were they able to hack? Basically
a lot of terrifying anything with internet. Yeah, we're gonna

(02:58):
check in with the political story about how Trump doesn't
understand things like countries, time zones, just a lot of
fun details that aren't really surprising, but just about as
hilarious and embarrassing as you would expect from this White House.
We are going to introduce you to Bob Goodlot's son

(03:19):
Bobby and I was pronouncing but that is that's not
right now that he looks like it probably does not
like when it is pronounced like that. That's probably our
way to troll him in. Yeah, we're gonna ask Robert
what global conflicts he's keeping an eye because he has
always been on top of those since I've known him. Uh,

(03:41):
we're gonna check back in with Alma Rossa. We are
going to look at the weekend box office wherein the
meg dominated. We are going to have some beverage news
to beverage stories at the end of the episode. But first, Robert,
we like to ask our guests, what is something from
your search history those about who you are. I mean,

(04:01):
I've been looking a lot at ties between Patriot Prayer,
the group that was protesting in Portland's two weeks ago.
They're not a white nationalist group, they don't consider themselves
a fascist group, but they have a lot of ties
to people who are at Unite the Right. Their leader,
Joey Gibson, has a lot of ties to people who
were at the first Unite the Right rally. And Uh,
I'm essentially trying to build a case that a lot

(04:22):
of these organizations that claim to be counter to antifa
or counter to communism have their basis and fascist groups
and are in fact largely peopled by outright fascists. So
that's that's what I'm searching around these days. You find
anything interesting. Oh yeah, there's a lot of ties between them,
and a lot of the strategies that these groups are
using sort of began last year with a group called

(04:43):
Anti Calm that was heavily tied with the They were
at Unite the Right. There were a big part of
the first Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, UM. Their
discord server was taken down in September and their their
Twitter hasn't been very active since, but they pioneered a
lot of the strategies that you've seen the Proud Boys
using in Patriot Prayer using the success in it sounds
like they both anti com. You said they Yeah, Anti

(05:05):
com was the name of the first guld but they
were the first they were I thought you were talking
about Proud Boys. Well no, no, no, that's I just
didn't catch it first. But it's better than no FAP,
which is what they call it. Uh. Patriot Prayer is
a group that if you were paying attention to the

(05:27):
right wing media in the past couple of months, you
would see headlines about how, you know, different people were
protesting a religious group and it's just it's very shady,
they have some connections to, like their their agenda doesn't
totally make sense, and it seems like they have a
lot of connections to It's some of the shady or
far right groups starting almost you know, seven or eight

(05:48):
months before the first Unite the Right rally. So the
guys in the anti com chat room who were also
members of groups like the Traditional Workers Party. There's a
lot of bleed in between these groups. There's a lot
of interchange between them, traditional CRUs I mean, I can't
argue with that. What's right? That sounds good, That doesn't
sound like like national socialists, just like patriots. I like that,
I like patriot, I like prayer. Yeah, those are both

(06:11):
good things. Yeah, they're basically born out of the realization
that defining yourself as white nationalist or is fascist is
counterproductive and cannot They tried right after to make that
push that into the mainstream and that failed. But they
think they can and seem to be able to be
successful if they positioned themselves as anti communist and try
to declare anti FA a communist group. So we're not.

(06:32):
But even then, like, yeah, someone has to be so
sort of like I guess have a fucked up understanding
of what communists. Okay, I like this group. It works
the I mean you look at the you saw in
Portland last week that that protester was shot in the
back of the head by a tear gas canister, because
you have part of their strategy. But who shot that

(06:52):
was under the police? Yeah, the police shot a guy
in the back of the head. That was a counter protest, right, yeah,
who had the that was a counter protester. And it
is this is their their straightgy. You can because you
can read Unicorn Riot has leaked thousands of chat locks
between a lot of these people. It is their explicit
strategy to be polite and nice to the police because
in part they depend on the police because there's not
that many of them, and to try to get the

(07:13):
police to fight anti faugh and that appears to be
a successful strategy. And some of this is on the
anti fascist groups because you will see a lot of
the police attitudes, a lot of rage at the police
among these these groups of counter protesters, which I understand
to an extent, but also as counterproductive on a tactical level.
It brings the police in on the sides of these
the fascists it's not the wave of people who are

(07:35):
unite the right. Two point, Oh, are the fascists who
have lost because they went full Hitler too fast. The
people who are dangerous now are the ones who are
a little bit better at being cag about it. We
always stay here at the daily sye. Guys, don't go
full Hitler too fat. He's up on that Hitler fattle.
You're saying that one of the counter protesters jumped up
when the when the Nazis were walking in with a

(07:56):
flag and said called them wankers. He was a British
guy and the British gentleman and grabbed their flag and
then got like stomped out by Nazis and the police. Yeah,
he leapt over a line of police to grab this
guy's flag and then hit the ground and then was
kicked repeatedly by both the Nazi he grabbed a flag from,
and by the police around him, at least a couple
of the officers around him. Yeah, and that's I mean,

(08:18):
there have been all sorts of studies that indicate that
there are a lot of white supremacists or you know,
ideals like that in America's police force. So it's not
totally shocking, and yeah, be increasingly becoming a bigger problem
in the military about a quarter of active duty. You
to soldiers say they have met someone who has openly
identified as a white national duty. Cool. Well, what's something

(08:40):
that's overrated? Robert Um, Oh jeez, I mean marjarine? Okay, yes,
thank god, Yeah, it's time to stop big now, shout
out to my sponsors country crops. I do not believe this.
But you go on to say your piece. Well, I'm
just gonna say, if you just get some butter and
you pour some honey in that butter and get a spoon,

(09:03):
that's delicious. You make some honey butter. But if you
stir honey into margarine and try to eat it with
a spoon, you're gonna be vomiting all of just eating
vegetables vegetable oil. Also, is that true? You just eat
honey and butter with will you stir it together? But
honey better? Wasn't the question? Usually I'll put I'll get
bread in it. But you, I mean, look, let me
tell you something. I love butter. I remember as a

(09:24):
kid my parents had to regulate my like pad usage,
like a pad of butter at the rush because I
would take one pad and just put that on one
bite of bread, and they're like, hold on, you look crazy.
You're making us look bad as parents. But now in
my adulthood, I'm just eating that mac. I'm immediate with
better sauce. It just makes it better. Yeah, make it
better with butter. Salted butter or unsalted butter, different situations

(09:45):
for both. Yeahh yes, and that we were going to
cover that the Great Chef's debate about salted or unsalted butter,
And it really is contextual unsalted as good as an ingredient.
As an ingredient, I personally prefer salted on for everyday use. Yeah,
I'll on a nice run and just eat a stick
of butter while I'm jogging. Put it in like a
power gel packet. I can't do that with margarine. Uh Like,

(10:10):
other than not being able to stir honey into it,
are there like bad things about margarine? Is it worse
for you or just for you? I don't. I don't
read about what's good. It's more upset about the honey aspect.
What is something you think is underrated? Um, besides honey butter,
besides honey butter, I think the danger of fascist activists

(10:31):
is underrated because I think people look at the tiny numbers,
and people look at the fact that most Americans don't
identify with them out right, and they don't look at
the fact that, like Laura Ingram was on Fox News
recently saying that immigration is changing the nature of America
and we didn't vote for that ship. Like the ideas
that these people who are outright fascists have injected into
the conversation has pulled everybody further to the right. Um,

(10:55):
And I think the threat of that is generally underrated
at this moment. Yeah, yeah, But we're gonna talk a
little bit later about how they're all these you know,
Amarossa's has a recording of Trump and says there are
recordings of him using that word. And you know, there
are people who have worked at the White House who
say that if you heard how Trump talked behind closed

(11:16):
doors about black people and women, people would want to
burn the White House to the ground. But there are
people saying basically espousing the same ideology, just not saying
the bad words, Like on Fox News every fucking night,
Tucker Carlson is openly a white supremacist. Oh yeah, uh,
And the Laura Ingram thing. People do not accidentally make

(11:38):
the hell Hitler gesture to accidentally make she went full
she locked her arm locked her it wasn't away and
she's like, no, that was my tennis elbow. Yeah, that
is full on, uh Nazi. Well, you know, I don't
know what we can get enough of a like a
boycott against their advertisers to like to to full formed,

(12:00):
to actually put some kind of pressure, because, like we
talked about it last week, that Laura Ingram thing was wacky,
like they turned up white supremacy to eleven on on
that episode, and then the next day that half pass
defense was it even worse. I don't like these shook
Nazis who are like, yeah, I'm gonna say this ship,
but they're gonna get called, don't you because they're harder

(12:20):
to defeat because they just bend with you. You know,
all right, then what do we do? We're not I'm
not buying Volvos anymore. Still, I don't think I know
they used to, but I'm curious to know who's even
advertising and luring pets dot Com Sleeping Giants was interviewed
on one of the Cricket Media podcasts and they were
saying that they've only had like three advertisers who have

(12:43):
just come back to them and been like, no, we're
still going to advertise we're good. So it's just like
people who they haven't gotten to yet. Apparently I'm gonna
watch closely because I just feel like the Fox really
does have to take some responsibility. They need to be broken. Yeah,
broken financially, and I think that when you talk about
sleeping giants, that's some of the most effective activism anyone

(13:03):
in the country is doing right now. Um, I'm a
big supporter if they're what they were doing what and
just for the listeners, they are doing what they are
Essentially when people do stuff like what lor Ingram was doing,
when they're outright racist or white supremacist or whatnot, they
are contacting these people's advertisers and trying to get other
people to contact the advertisers who advertise in these these
platforms and get them to pull their money, because that's

(13:25):
how you hurt these people. Yeah, it really hurt bright
Bart over the past year. And that's the funny thing
about capitalism is it's so easy to kneecap something because
you know, money is the fucking answer to everything and
this fucking thing. So it's like, oh yeah this, Uh,
you just get rid of the advertising, right. Uh. And finally, Robert,
what is a myth? What's something people think is true
that you know to be false. I think the idea

(13:47):
that if a tape were to leak tomorrow where Donald
Trump says the inn word, I think it's a myth
that it would hurt him in any way, shape or form.
I don't think he loses a percentage point of his
popularity from that. Um yeah, I think about their den
of the country is fine with using that word. They
would not say they're fine with using that word as
a description for all black people, but they'd probably bring
you some variation of that old Chris Rock bit like that.

(14:10):
That's the difference. And I think about America honestly feels
that it would definitely depend on the context. Like if right,
if it was Papa John's style, I'm sure he wouldn't
lose too many points. But if it was you know,
like some of the things that have been reported that
he has said in the past, Uh, from people who

(14:32):
heard it with their own ears, it's really dark, Like
he's a huge like dark racist, like not the type
of racist that you know, a soft racist is going
to agree with, you know, like a full blown hardcore racist.
There's that guy who tweeted and whose tweet gets back
into virility every now and then, who was like leading

(14:53):
some sort of team onto a yacht that Trump owned,
and Trump told him not to send one of his
like mechanics or something was a black guy and Trump
said he'd and wan him on the boat. And they
sued Trump over that and one and like that's that's
a thing that happened. Donald Trump didn't want a black
man on his yacht because rent apartments to them. Yep.
So it's just that's the other thing, too, is I

(15:13):
think the pressure has to be even harder on the
Republicans and even fucking Democrats. Man, that you need to
also be just as vocal about this dude's bullshit. And
I don't care if it hurts you because you're in
a swing district. I mean, at some point, the game
of of becoming re elected and staying in office is
keeping us from having like real, unambiguous discussions about his behavior.

(15:34):
Because if you're a vulnerable person up for re election
and you're a Democrat, you're not really gonna go out
there with your chest out about how the bullshit that
the president is doing because you got a worrying about
staying in office. And at some point, I think we
we need to demand that our leaders have a little
bit more of a backbone. Yeah, on it on all sides.
I mean there's still just there's only a few Democrats
who are consistently always coming out with, you know, the

(15:56):
kind of commentary that's necessary. But I mean politicians with
no back learned their lesson from the Access Hollywood tape
when I mean it was like full on, He's like, yeah,
I'm a rapist, so that's what I'm about. And yeah,
and this is not a locker room. And people were
still on board after that, and in fact there was

(16:16):
and yeah, focus groups like Women for Trump launched the
day after some politicians without backbones is a bit of
it's a little redundant. Yeah, I don't know. We'll see,
all right, guys, let's get into the stories of the day.
The man of Fort Defense has rested, They have dropped
the mic. They were like done and done. I think
we've made our point. I think it goes like this,

(16:37):
the prosecution rest then the is like Okay, now little
the defense be presenting in case. Ah, we're good. Yeah.
So there's two weeks of prosecution calling witnesses who testified
that man of Fort did like all the money crimes
basically and did them like flamboyantly, like he thought people

(16:59):
couldn't see him, like he was invisible. And there were
a couple of weird like courtroom shenanigans that we don't
totally understand just yet, Like there was a recess that
was like a full day recess that nobody really knows
why it happened, a lot of behind closed doors meetings
with the judge and defense and prosecution, and then the
defense requested that the case be dismissed, and the judge

(17:22):
was like no, but like there's a reason the defense
thought that they could get away with that. Uh. And
then apparently that was their whole idea because then they
were like, okay, now present your first witness, and they
were like, we rest, yeah, you'd present your first witness.
I don't know what's gonna happen if that means, like

(17:42):
you know, a lot of the speculation has been some
kind of issue with the jury, whether it was a
juror overhearing something or speaking to someone, or if there
is a you know, a huge Donald Trump's abord who's
just willing to stay locked in their position and have
a hung jury. I don't know, like if to juror
who overheard any of the news for the past two years,

(18:04):
maybe he's anti maniport. I don't know. Uh, it seems
crazy that we have to have a trial where people
would be completely impartial. But um, because of you know
this touch is literally every aspect of of our country.
H Robert, you just did a Manaford episode a two

(18:25):
podcast Behind the Bastards. You did to Maniford episodes. Uh so,
first of all, explained to our listeners what Behind the
Bastards is for people who don't listen. I mean, our
tagline is we we tell you everything you don't know
about the very worst people in all of history. And
and Paul Manafort is definitely one of those. What I
say in the podcast, and what I truly believe is
that his work for Donald Trump is probably the least
objectionable thing he's ever done. That's his whole career was

(18:48):
built on. He He's the guy who helped invent the
modern concept of lobbying. There were I think a couple
of hundred lobbyists in the entire United States when Paul
Manafort started his firm, and he is like, you know,
in the late nineties you started getting jokes on like
the Simpsons about how you know all politicians are the
same Let Democrat and Republican. They're they're the same person,
they support the same ideologies. A lot of that is

(19:08):
due to the fact that the lobbying firm that Manafort
started with Roger Stone and a guy whose last name
was Black, would regularly represent both sides of elections because
they're a big part of their goal was they would
help They were the first company to put lobbying under
and like campaign advice and whatnot campaign management under the
same roof, so they would help both sides of an

(19:30):
election in a contested district, and the no matter who won,
they could then lobby to that person with whatever corporations
were backing them. Um, so there at least partially responsible
for everything bad that people hate about politics right now. Yeah,
within a decade of the establishment of Paul Manafort's firm,
they went from a situation where there were maybe a

(19:51):
couple of hundred lobbyists in the entire country to a
situation where there were more than ten thousand lobbyists. They
have a lot to do with that, And Paul Manaford
quickly stopped working in the US as much and started
working for a variety of dictators and terrorists all over
the world. Um, and that's who he spent most of
his career representing. The name of the lobby that he
invented was called the Torturer's Lobby. Like that. He's that

(20:12):
kind of guy. Now, Oh, yeah, you did a human
rights violations. Well, we're gonna rehab your image and you're
gonna put a suit on and we'll present you to
people in d C and they'll think you're a legit person. Um. Now,
your show's also great for you know, giving us weird
personal details like that Hitler was a fanboy of Westerns
and that totally informed his like military decisions, and that

(20:35):
Saddam was a romance novelist. Is there like a surprising
personal detail about Manafort that you particularly liked? Yeah? When
he started working with Ukraine's want to be dictator Victor Ynukovich,
Yanukovich had just lost an election for president. It was
Manafort who helped and get elected a few years later,
and his advice to Yanukovich was to basically dress an

(20:55):
act exactly like Paul Manafort. They got identical suits tailored together.
He may you could start doing his hair the same
way Man of Fourth did. Like that was that we
helped this guy into powers like be like me, dress
exactly like me. Is vitor. You don't have my swag, right,
that's what will put you in It apparently worked right
for a while. It's like twins could be done. All right,

(21:18):
we're gonna take a quick break, we'll be right back,
and we're back. And so def Con the Top Hacker
conference took place over the weekend in Vegas, UH, and

(21:40):
they demonstrated what they're capable of in terms of hacking.
There are a few highlights that will point out that
there was first a group that hacked an Amazon Echo
UH and they were basically they strung together like multiple
bugs and like a second gen Echo that could basically
allow hackard stream audio from a microphone remotely, so just

(22:00):
kind of listening on you. But a lot of the
you know this can The deaf Con two is also
meant for hackers to point out these vulnerabilities and then
help these companies be like, hey, you need to sort
this out. So the group of who had found this vulnerability,
they've already told Amazon about it, so you don't have
to full on worry about this and start putting your
echo inside of like a sound proof box or anything

(22:21):
like that. It also requires pretty sophisticated access to like
your WiFi network. Uh, so I think you'll be all right.
But it was just interesting enough to know, Yeah, the
thing that you thought can happen can happen without them
addressing that. And then last year that the deaf Con
conference got a huge press buzz because they did a
lot of work with voting machines. Uh, and they showed

(22:43):
how you could just hop in that thing and just
mess with the vote tylers or whatever. And this year
they have fixed that. They did they did, they totally
worked that out, except this year they supped the anti
and again there was no different. They took a lot
of the machines that a lot of states you when
they're using electronic voting. Uh. They were able to upload
their own malicious software. They could change vote talies, and

(23:06):
one of them even just pulled like the hot fire.
What's that? That one gift with the Duode just go
out with his hands on his cheeks like this. He
had that gift. Just play on the screen because you
can do anything. But the real fun part about this
one is they also had forty children between the ages
of six and seventeen attempt to infiltrate replicas of these

(23:26):
election board websites for several swing swing states. And so
what they did is just built out like the exact
architecture of these websites and just said, have added kids
if you know, like young aspiring hackers, do your worst. Uh.
And let's just say the kids are all right at hacking,
because we are fucked. They were able to some of

(23:48):
these kids were able to exploit vulnerabilities that they were
able to tamper with vote tabulations, change the names of candidates. Uh.
And one eleven year old reportedly hacked into a mock
up of the or the secretary of State's website and
change the voting results within ten minutes. But election officials
were like, hey, hey, I'm not really impressed by that.

(24:08):
Most elections are done in what four or five minutes? Yeah, exactly,
And they're like, you know, the environment is completely different. Yeah,
because a noisy conference hall is much different than the
empty gymnasiums being overseen by octogenarians asking you when where
do you live? Yeah, so you know, again, if the
kids are if it's that easy for you know, younger

(24:30):
people with just sort of the basic skills to do it,
I think maybe we should be looking into this a
little bit more rather than you know, passing the blame
and be like, oh, well, this is this, you know,
I'm not I'm not worried. We're not really impressed by this.
It's scary because the details of this, like they and
some of the hecks, they change the candidates names and
like the things they changed the two are like Bob
the Builder and Richard Nixon's head, So it's like a

(24:53):
mixture of like juvenile sensibilities and right they're like, so
just fucking yeah, destroy this thing. I follow a lot
of these people on Twitter, a lot of folks who
are at Defcon, a lot of hackers, because I don't
understand that at all. So I just try to listen
to what the people who do say. And there was
a big thread of people who do security for these
things and who actually have been part of coding voting

(25:13):
machines for like Divald and stuff, saying this is the
only field of coders you will find this for. None
of us think electronic voting is a good idea. None
of the people responsible for securing electronic voting machines think
that it's a good idea to vote electronically because they're
just not secure and you can't really point to hard
evidence like a paper receipt or something or like you
know how we have in California, like the ink the

(25:35):
inked up voting card we get. So yeah, they also
hacked police body cameras, voicemail. The Internet of Things is
horrifically secure. The body camera was wild because they're you know, people,
hackers were able to remotely download the footage, edit it,
and then re upload it, and they weren't like it
was untraceable, Like you wouldn't have known that someone had

(25:56):
just switched out of video filing there. So that cool. Hey,
that's pretty cool. Hey, so what else they know? They're
able to live stream footage, So they're saying, you know,
criminals could just basically tap into a feed and be like, okay,
that's where you are. Okay, that's pretty cool. It's one
of those things. It's it's weird. Because like in the nineties, um,
it's it's sort of similar to what happened with gaming

(26:17):
in the nineties, where there were all these pundits like
screaming about how dangerous video games were and it was bullshit.
And so now when people try to point to like, no,
there's actually some some things we need to be concerned
about psychologically of what like violent video games due to people,
that doesn't get any traction because we were so used
to like being bullshit, it being bullshit. It's the same
thing with hackers. Were so used to movies in nine

(26:38):
where people were hacking cars and stuff, and it was like,
that's not possible, but now it is. But now we
have autonomous cards, they can be hacked, remotely, started, remotely stopped,
whatever you mean. So are like our reflex to reject
that as a possibility is out of sync with the reality.
The voicemail one was really interesting though, because I never

(27:00):
thought of how that works. But so what they were
saying is like, you know, a lot of our mobile
carriers they were just terrible at securing voicemail because we're
still using like four digit pins. Most people don't even
know what their pin is because you can just dial
it straight from your phone now, and it's usually just
the last four it'll default to being the last four
digits of your phone number. Uh so yeah, So then

(27:22):
basically what hackers can do they can just brute force
access your ship because there's also no limit of the
number of like incorrect passwords you enter. It just locks
it down, so you can just have at it. Uh
And then once they do that, they can get into
your voicemail system. They can request like like WhatsApps send
like you know, the targets code via a phone call,

(27:42):
and if they don't pick it up and goes to voicemail,
then they can access the voicemail, get the code and
then put your ship like you know, log into your PayPal, eBay,
other ship just by using this like voicemail hack. So
that's another cool, pretty cool thing that's going well. Fortunately
we have our top minds at the top of the
government just sort of hold locking everything down as they

(28:05):
actually just pull a bunch of funding from from that. Yes, yeah, yeah,
So Politico has a new article out that reveals that
the president you know from past people who have left
the White House and are not coming with the same
energy as Amar Rosso. So they're just like dropping these
anonymous hints or anonymous quotes to journalists. But the anonymous

(28:28):
quotes are pretty scary. They say that the president doesn't
seem to grasp the concept of time zones. Uh like,
when because he always wants to call Abe, Japan's Prime
minister in the middle of the night, He's like, yeah,
let's give him a call at three in the afternoon.
They're like, oh, but it's in the middle of the
night where he is, and but he keeps bringing that

(28:49):
up like he can't it doesn't registers. And again that's
a part where I'm almost like, Okay, he could just
be impulsive and he just wants me wants in that
that he has trouble and staying time zones, but he
could also It also shows there could be something wrong
with his ability to to retain information. Where someone is saying, no,
we can't call him because eleven at night there then

(29:11):
five minutes later you say the same ship. It's another
example of like a thing if he was just a guy,
it wouldn't be because there's a lot of people who
don't really have a strong understanding of time zones. There's
a lot of people who can't pronounce Bhutan or Nepal,
Like there's a lot of He called them nipple and button. Yeah, Like, legit,
this is not a joke. This is in the article
where he's he was. I think it was because he

(29:33):
was prepping for a meeting with India and he's like,
what's his other ship here? And they're like, that wasn't
prepping for it. It was during the meeting with India. Oh,
and he's like, what's this other ship? He's like the
countries of Bhutan and Nepal, and he's like, nipple button,
nipple button, But he didn't know that would be hard
to button. Yeah, I'm sorry, go on. No. I was
just saying like if he was, if he was a

(29:54):
normal dude, this wouldn't be a problem. Would be totally
understandable because there's a lot of ship to keep track
of in the world. For of us, you pick your battles.
But he's the president. The president should know these things. Yeah,
president like reading. Even One of my favorite details from
the article is that so during a meeting with Abbe

(30:17):
at mar Lago in April, he repeatedly praised Ji Jim Ping,
according to this former n SC official, and everyone was
cringing because Japan and China are rivals, but presumably Trump
was like, oh another Asian guy. Uh yeah, but I
like the other one that I just met. Hey, your
cousin's pretty chill, right, And people are like, yo, that

(30:40):
is you're not supposed to talk about how much you
love China to Japan. That's not a good look. Why
was that? It's called diplomacy? Um. The Washington Post reported
that he sometimes puts on Indian accent and imitates the
way their leader speaks well, real quick, so, like I said.
On the gist uh Slate's daily podcast, a Republican strategists

(31:04):
said that, you know, people who have worked at the
White House say that if people heard how he talked
about black people and women on a daily basis, they
burned the place to the ground. Was the direct quote.
But one thing he does love doing is talking on
the phone. He just calls leaders of foreign countries. He

(31:24):
loves calling McCrone from France and just like chatting, and
McCrone has to be like, hey, what are we talking about?
Because he's very busy, you know, right, just like you
don't just like call to check in with someone and
be like hey, so what's up? And you know, they
try and get him to focus on like deliverables and like,

(31:44):
you know, because he's the president and the other leaders have,
you know, things to do, so there needs to be
some transaction. But he doesn't get that and he just
like hangs out like a you know, eighties teenager is like, hey,
I heard you. You guys won the World Cup? Who
do you guys are thinking of football game? The Eagles

(32:05):
or the French national team. Come on down the gridiron,
let's see what's up. Um, just like I'm sorry, what
is this call about? Right? I don't know, I'm lonely.
There's a joke with Japanese diplomats that Abbe has had
one meeting with Trump seven times because he's has to
go back over the same issues every time he talks

(32:26):
to him. Um oh man, yeah, so and then I
like how the that goes on. Abbe and his aids
have avoided telling Trump that he contacts them too often
for fear of harming their friendly relationship. Oh Japan They're
just okay, well yeah, it's it's so Japanese too, or
even like you're doing high stakes governmental business, and it

(32:47):
was just more like I get you know, I get
it for diplomacy too, but I can also see how
just being Japanese too, it's like, let's let's not call
out his shape to his face too, because it's I mean,
despite how he acts, he's still the most power our
full person on the planet. So uh yeah, yeah, it's
just probably about, Hey, how's your cousin doing. Do you

(33:10):
think about the tariffs off? Do you talk to him?
Are you? Guys? Don't? Are you? Do you have a
dinner or something to Bob good Lot? Let's talk about
this dude. Oh, Bob good Lot. I mean, look, he's
it's just a quick story because he is, you know,
he's a Freedom Caucus hack. He's mr. He loves to
grandstand for anything super right, like Benghazi. He was all

(33:31):
about it. Uh in the Russia. Uh, like the Russia hearings,
he's been grandstanding. This is just his vibe is just
he's just one of those repulsive Freedom Caucus Republicans who
is all about protecting the president and disregarding fact or
honesty or having things like pride or shame, things like that.

(33:51):
But his son is out here on Twitter just getting
just I don't know, just getting messy. Uh. You know
his son, Bobby good Lot. Uh he he tweeted, he
just quote tweeted quote. I just gave the maximum allowed
donation to Jennifer Lewis, a Democrat running for my father's
congressional seat. I've also gotten five other folks to commit

(34:12):
to donate the maxen is a year to flip districts.
Let's do this' basic saying I'm giving money to somebody
to get my dad the funk out of Congress. Uh.
And that got that tweet went bookoo because yeah, I mean,
Bob good Lot is just one of the most unsavory
characters in the house. And I do love this new

(34:32):
trend because it happened with Stephen Miller to people people's relatives,
like throwing them under the bus for being monsters. I
think it's probably good because in the future you'll be like, wait,
your Bobby good Lot. You're like, but the tweet though,
you saw the tweet. Oh yeah, alright, alright, gang gang.
I did my part. Yeah, I'm maxed out. Yeah, I'm
maxed out to Jennifer Lewis campaign. You think, yeah, I
may be his son, I maybe Bobby good Lot Jr.

(34:54):
But I'm maxed out to us. Yet I'm doing my best. Yeah.
I think it must be tough though, when you have
these fam real relationships to these people who are so
like you have the same name or whatever related to
Rick Santorum. Yeah, you are family relation. Wow. And he's
a real piece of ship. Yeah, hey, come on, I
mean we don't we can't say that he's a real

(35:17):
piece of santorum. Yeah, there we go. Which is that
is created? Yeah, when you when you're having anal sex
ring and the poop and the come all gets sort
of that Santorum as I understand him up, that is
uh wow, welcome to our new show. No, that's that's
what a santorum. They made that because he was such

(35:39):
an asshole to that who made that, like the gay
community made that. I can add that their term for
that foam wow. Just to make sure he is not
for he lives in infamy. You will be remembered. But
I mean to Bobby good lots credit. You know, Donald
Trump Jr. Supposedly hated his dad like his whole life

(36:02):
and was you know, kind of abused by him, and
it was just like this guy's the fucking worst. But
when it became you know, politically and socially a good
thing for him to, you know, say that he fucked
with his dad. He did that because you know, yeah, yeah,
like he's cool with his dad now. I mean, oddly enough,

(36:23):
he could be the one who brings it all fucking down,
because he's the one who, from what we see, seems
like to have had the most direct contact with Russia
repeatedly what should be what should be a fitting end,
all right, Robert, I wanted to check him with you
on just what's going on internationally. You're someone who has
been on top of ship that, like we're talking about

(36:45):
it today and the news, but you were on top
of it years ago when it was first like popping off,
Like the crimea revolution is a big issue in US
Russia relations today, and you wrote an article about that,
like as it was happened. When we work together back
at Cracked, you were like on top of it and
like interacting with the rebels like when that was first

(37:07):
popping off. Yeah, and I that was my first I
would consider my first like real piece of journalism was
interviewing a bunch of protesters at the midn Um And
in general, what I'll say is, if things go badly
in the next couple of years, like really really badly,
like like global conflict, you know, expanding to the size

(37:28):
we haven't seen in decades badly. I think historians in
the future might trace back the starting of whatever hostilities
erupt as far back as two thousands seven, like when
we're looking at like now, like we look at World
War two and you're like, when does it start? And
a lot of people say nineteen thirty eight, you know,
as opposed to nineteen thirty nine or forty. I think
they might trace this global conflict that I do believe

(37:48):
we are in a global conflict right now, and I
think the war fighting to main that it is mainly
occurred in is the Internet, but it has physical battle
fields and Ukraine, in Syria, in Iraq, in other countries
on the world. And I think we may trace the
beginning of that conflict back to two thousand seven UM
when Russia launched an unprecedented cyber attack against Estonia, which

(38:12):
was at that point and I think it's still at
this point, the most wired nation on the planet. All
of their banking, their voting, all their government work was
essentially carried out online. So it was a devastating attack
that was launched on them. Their system is actually really cool,
Like when you read about how Estonia is set up,
like it's all this really uh intuitive stuff that it's like, oh, yeah,
that is how the internet should have simplified our life.

(38:36):
But because we are sort of this corporatocracy, all the
different ways that corporateocracies are inefficient have made it so
that we're not able to take advantage of that. But
read up on Estonia. They really do a cool thing,
and they are the whole country right now is ready
and is in a semi permanent state of being ready
for mass mass national war with Russia. Um And then

(38:57):
of course in two thousand and eight we had a
war between Russia and Georgia and some people will say
it only lasted like five days, and some people will
say and in fact, the u N has said that
the actual fighting started when Georgian troops started firing on
separatist troops that then brought the Russians in. But leading
up to it, there was an internet blitz, there was
a propaganda blitz, there was a you know, arming of

(39:18):
these these sort of breakaway groups by the Russian. So
it's very complicated, but it's you can almost look at
what happened in Georgia and what happened in Estonia as
a lead up to what happened in Ukraine, because after
in two this and fourteen, basically a bunch of protesters
rose up against the government of Victor Yanukovich, who was
the President of Ukraine and had brutally suppressed with extreme
violence protests in the center of the city. That led

(39:40):
to a larger protest movement geared at unseating him. And
he was pro Russian. He was very pro Russian. He
wanted to bring pull the country out of a deal
that it had made that would bring it closer to
the EU in favor of going close to Russia, which
most Ukrainians supported going getting closer to the EU, except
for in the east. And when I went over, I've
spent a lot of time in Eastern Ukraine talking to
people who supported the separatists at first uh and talking

(40:02):
to people who lived in those areas. When because the
civil war started after that, like after these protesters in
western Ukraine unseated the president, the civil war began in
Eastern Ukraine, and that civil war was largely there were
some local rebels who started fighting, but a lot of
the first wave and a lot of the current fighters
there are Russian soldiers who just pulled off their uniform

(40:23):
patches across the border, their artilleries rushing their tanks are Russian. Um.
So the guys that you were kind of interacting with,
the men and women, I guess we're the reason that
we started writing about it. It It cracked is like it
was just this incredible scene of like they built a
snow fort. Yeah, this is protests in the middle of
the in the middle of the city, and you know

(40:46):
we're fighting government catapults and like burning tires out of
an ice fortress. It was just this crazy story. Um.
And Paul Manafort was behind a lot of that and
was apparently, according to Paul maniforts Otters, he was the
one who urged the Ukrainian government to crack down violently
on the protesters. Yes, so much blood on this. And

(41:07):
if you talk to Ukrainians about what they saw as
the lead up to that. Starting a year or two
before hostility started, there was a propaganda blitz in Russian
media aimed at creating a divide between Western and Eastern Ukraine. Um,
much as there was a propaganda blitz in the United
States and at creating a divide between the left and

(41:27):
the right, or not creating, but further widening, because there
was also there was a divide between east and western
US was Texas and California secession. Yeah, right, so right
and left certainly hate each other. I think my point
is that you number one, and this is something the
Defense Department came out last year in the report and
said that the United States has fallen behind in the
Internet as a war fighting domain, and it is a

(41:49):
very important war fighting domain. And if you look at
it that way, this conflict has been going on for
a decade now, um, and you have to connect. So
Number one, a lot of the fighters who provided manpower
for the civil war in Ukraine were essentially propagandist on
the Internet. There's a video called I Russian Occupier those

(42:09):
few millions of times, and I've talked to at least
one pro Russian insurgeon who fought on the side of
the Russian back separatists, who was radicalized by this video,
and it used a lot of video game imagery and
it seems very similar to a video called The Lion
of Europe that's about Hitler that I've noticed a number
of right wing and fascist activists in the United States
point to is like a video that radicalized them, and

(42:29):
these the same. They're set up almost as movie trailers,
and they use a lot of like video game style imagery.
And it's I get to this point where I'm like, Okay,
am I just because I spend so much time thinking
on this, am I like have I gone crazy? Like?
Am I building this up to be more than it is?
But I do think there's a global conflict and people
social media has a death count, um, a substantial death

(42:50):
count because there were, you know, thousands of soldiers in
Ukraine who were reached out to and radicalized through the
Internet and wound up fighting there because they were convinced
to leave their homes and go fight there because of
stuff they saw on the internet. And the same thing
is true in Syria Interact twenty to thirty soldiers who
were radicalized online through Twitter, through Facebook, through YouTube. Um.

(43:10):
It's like in the past in traditional warfare, you would
go invade and then try to win hearts and minds,
And now you start out with the hearts and minds
and try and like win people over to your cause
and then radicalized them. I guess, yeah. And so that's
like I would say, in terms of where I'm looking
at right now, I think there's a possibility that we're

(43:31):
going to see more violent conflict between the Syrian government
now that the civil war is winding down and the
Turkish government. Um. And I don't know where the US
is going to fall on that or where Russia is
going to fall in that, because both the US and
Russia have you know, the US has supported the Koords
in Syria, who are now allied pretty closely and increasingly

(43:52):
closely with the Syrian government. The Russians have supported the
Syrian government, but the US and Russia have both also
supported and sold arms to the Turkish from it. Um.
So it's really hard to see what's going to happen there.
But just generally, I mean, we've talked on this show, uh,
producer Nick Stump was talking about how you know, there
there's this idea that we're no longer in a place

(44:16):
where we can understand conflicts regionally, and it's more, you know,
because the Internet has just kind of broken down those barriers.
It's just ideological conflicts that spread that aren't based on
where you live, but they're just you know, being fought
across the world on the Internet, and the actual military
power of a state, at least at this point in

(44:36):
whatever conflict is going on, matters a lot less than
their ability to project power through the Internet. Because the
Russian military on paper is very weak. Um. They they
are not on paper a threat to the United States
or Tornato. Um, there's just they They've got this tank
called the Armada that was there a bunch of viral
stories for five years back about it, about how much

(44:56):
deadlier it is than all of NATO's tanks, and the
UN are covered. PostScript of that is that Russia's ordered
less than a hundred of them and is cut back
on their orders substantially, and it's cost them something like
a trillion dollars just their equivalent of the F thirty five.
It's a big boondoggle that's expensive and not effective. The
Russian military is not effective, would not be an effective

(45:17):
war fighting force in the conventional sense. But it's been
very effective in Syria. It's been very effective in Ukraine
because they have married the use of fairly small surgical
amounts of force to the use of very successful propaganda
and media campaigns. A couple that will like some insurgency
movement and you're like boom, and the US is bad

(45:38):
at that. Yeah. Yeah, because used to be like, you know,
like raindown pamphlets of propaganda by air back in the right.
Yeah that was like that was twitter back then, and
now it's just straight up no you got it on
your phone. All right, Well that was very interesting. Thank
you for that. We're going to take another quick break

(45:58):
and we'll be right back. And we're back and I
was almost surprised that we're back in and that delivery
of that. Yeah. So, speaking of surprises, the Meg so

(46:22):
follow the Meg exactly. I mean, I know it's a movie,
what what is about. It's about a an extinct species
of shark that was like basically a giant great white
except more deadly and like more angry and better at killing. Um.
It's called the Megalodon is the full name for it. Uh.

(46:43):
And if you were obsessed with sharks, uh, like I
was when I was a kid, it's like, you know,
just this mythical creature that's like in terms of scale,
it's like to a great white shark, with a great
white shark is to a salmon. Yes, yeah, yeah, wait,
this already happened that there was like Mega Shark Verse,

(47:03):
Giant Octopus. There's been a lot of movies Shark Verse, Crocosaurus.
I'm trying to like puzzle through this because so I
I pay attention to the box office. They're usually like
on Friday, they will put out their box office prediction,
like these box office analysts, and they'll usually be between
like five and ten percent. Like sometimes they're just like

(47:25):
right on point, being able to predict exactly what something's
gonna make. The meg came out this weekend. It doubled
what box Office Mojo was predicting. It pulled in a
hundred and fifty d forty six point nine million dollars globally.
Nobody really oh yeah, oh yeah, it destroyed Solo. It's uh,

(47:48):
it might be more than Solos made Disney. Yeah. But
so I'm trying to figure out, like what about this
connected so much with people. I'm thinking there's something about
so there's been shark movies since Jaws. There's Deep bluecy Uh,
there are shittier shark movies like, uh, you know, Shark

(48:08):
Nado and stuff like that. But I wonder if there's
something to it being a singular like there's been sharks
movies like where they're multiple sharks, but not a like
singular shark movie. And I think there's like something about
one giant man eating shark that makes I don't know,
that appeals to us a little bit more. I also,

(48:29):
I mean, Jack, you and I have been making content
for people on the Internet for a very long time,
and we've noticed that it's definitely cyclical what people are
interested in. When we were both at Cracked in the
early years have Cracked, some of our most successful articles
were lists of weird prehistoric animals and monsters and in
starts that were scary, and then for years you couldn't
get people to read that stuff. And maybe it's just
that that ship swung back around and people are interested again. Yeah,

(48:50):
I mean, I yeah, they're that. I think that's definitely true.
I think people have always been interested in big prehistoric creatures.
I think what happened at Cracked was that we created
a type of article that we were the only ones
doing it, and then BuzzFeed and a bunch of other
websites like basically saw that those articles were popular, and yeah,

(49:12):
the list of well and they like flooded the Internet
with articles that were indistinguishable from hours. They weren't quite
as good as ours, but they were like easy to
confuse with it, and when you're on the internet, you
can't tell the difference. For these these fifteen teen celebs
have taken a turn from the buzzfeeds out a terrible version.

(49:34):
But I but to your point about like the cyclical
nature of things. One thing we did notice in their
early days, and I think up until the end at Cracked,
was that robots were no longer scary to people. Like
in the eighties they were like a thing that the
whole world was terrified of, and they were all these
movie franchises and not included. Yeah, and then like starting

(49:56):
in about two thousand eight, two thousand nine, we just
like couldn't get people to read about robots in any
way unless it was like this, robots fucking cool and
does the thing that's going to solve a problem that
you have. We had at least exactly one article about
drones that got decent traffic, and then no one wanted
to read about drone war anymore. Right, that's right. Um.
I wonder if some of it might also be though,

(50:18):
like right now, you've got a bunch of very It's
a very political time in the country, and you've got
a lot of very political movies black Kkke Klansman or
however we're supposed to pronounce its Klansman, Sorry to bother you. Um,
and like a lot of political stuff that's dropped recently,
and maybe people were like, oh, it's just a movie
about a big gass shark. That seems like it'll be
I just I don't want to think about the that

(50:38):
is what. It's so broad. Yeah, and completely it's basically shark.
It distills Shark Weeks, the energy of Shark Week and
puts it into a movie that like they also engineered
to be accessible to China and America. Uh and I
think because put up forty six million in America, it
put up fifty million in China, right, that rarely has
really when you get that on screen dual of Jayson's

(51:00):
Stephen and Lee Bing Bing, I mean, you know that's
his money in the register, bling bling. But with these two,
I think it's just because it's so uh, it's just
easy to understand big ash shark motherfucker's are scared of
humans can understand the appeal of that. Like Star Wars,
where there's a lot of cultural things as to whether
or not you shared story interesting. Oh yeah, big shark

(51:21):
attacking people. I'm scared of sharks. I've swam, like right,
and I think yeah, because like the shallows or forty
seven down, those are a little more nuanced for films,
and they're multiple sharks. I'm telling you that has something
to do with it. One of the shallows was just one, right,
was it just? It was just it was that lady
who goes out swimming gets the ship bitten out of her,
and that was a pretty fun I enjoyed that. They're intense,

(51:41):
But yeah, I think with this one, you can just
look at a shot where like one shark is size
of like nine people and you're like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah that's shot in the trailer of like there's a
bunch of people swimming and you see the shark's mouth
and the water and big as all, and you're like, Okay,
I wanted a bunch of people. Yeah. Yeah, it's like
a Roland Emeric movie, but with a shark. Yeah exactly.

(52:01):
Um So yeah, maybe maybe we're just or maybe I
was overthinking it and it's just like, yeah, it's a
roll in emeric movie with the giant shark. Yeah, well,
I guess that's how much we're dumbing things down where
she were like, surely people's tastes have to be a
little more refined than some like such an aggressively BEV
movie or whatever. But at the end of the day,
you just want to see some motherfucker's getting by sharks
eaten by sharks. Uh suproduce around a Hosnie is writing

(52:25):
a question to me Team Field Trip, which, yes, yeah,
I think that's good to go hunt down the megludon
that lives in the Marianna's trench, right, but we we
hijack James Cameron submarine and write it down there with
a bunch of shotguns and take out that damn fish.
Hell yeah, or why don't you get meg tattoos or

(52:45):
that either? I thought that's what she meant by Team
fieldtom tattoos. I'm just get a big shark on my throat.
But I mean the first the first Jaws as a
B movie executed by like a hitchcocky great director, and
the first Jurassic Park. I'd say the same thing. And
even though the first Jurassic Park has the raptors that

(53:07):
still has this like the t Rex is like the
singular uh monster that's like lurking out there that you're
constantly aware of. It's not just like a bunch of
different Have you seen what the projections are for this weekend?
They think it's gonna double. They think the mega is
gonna double. I can see that because it's it's a surprise.

(53:29):
Something is a surprise. People start piling on another thing
in one of these articles are meaning that an analyst
did point out was sort of like it comes at
the right time where all the traditional tent pole movies
in the summer have already happened. People are right about
to go to school, so you get your last hurrah
in and it's like nothing to we like you'd not

(53:50):
really have to wrap your head around it. So they're
kind of found like a good lull. I think Crazy
Rich Asans is going to do well this weekend too, Yeah,
I think so. I hope that next year is nine
or is fifty movies about sharks in fifty movies with
Ken Jong character and it could be the sharks just
kind of are a great metaphor for the time we

(54:10):
live in now, where like we're innocent people and there
are just a few disgusting sharks out there wanting to
do the rest. Yeah, I mean the sharks clearly represents
Donald Trump, but I didn't. But I'm a spectrum cable
um because they do not, I got words for them.
All Right, it's time for beverage up date to beverage

(54:32):
related stories. For some reason, they just happened to come
across the transom at the same time. Miles, let's talk
about the old can I get a cup for water skins? Okay,
I don't know about job, but when you're in high school,
this is standard operating procedure when you have no money,
which one a little bit of a soda at a
fast food restaurant. You go up there and you say,

(54:54):
can I get a cup for water please? And they
give you the plastic sea through cup because they want
to make sure. So this is a all about a
man who took this a little too far. So this
fort eight year old man, Daniel Stein in Montana, he
pulled the same trick at Arby's and employees saw that
he just went for the sweet sweet soda. Uh confronted him,
he ran out, and then as he kept confronting him,

(55:15):
the dude tried to the man who is the perpetrator,
started like attacking him, tried to kick at him. So
the boy was just like all right, fun. This called
the cops world's most dedicated Arby's. I know the way, Like,
come on, Liam Neeson settled, then down. I'm gonna go
on to Lim and say that was not a person
of color who was working, because you'd be like, yeah,
then anyway, excuse me, sir, you have lemonade in there.

(55:39):
So the cops show up this guy, this dude data signed.
He ran into a Denny's hit in the bathroom. He
wouldn't come out. The officers tried to get him out.
They had to physically try and open the door. He
started resisting, started fighting with the officers. He had to
be tazed. And now my man is looking at so
many charges belany robbery, then four misdemeanorsal trespass, disorderly conduct,

(56:01):
obstructing a piece officer, and resisting arrest. What is the
felony robbery because you want to save a couple of pennies. Wait,
the felony robbery is just putting inside the water cup.
I don't know if you if mother, if you steal
anything and then commit a violent crime. It can be
pumped up to a felony. An assaulting an officer is
a very broad term. Yeah, you can just be like,

(56:24):
they don't touch me. Oh you an officer. I've been
covering protests. I've been shoved by a lot of police officers. Uh.
And if you shove back, that's that's assaulting. Your head
will be cracked. Yeah, that's what they're looking for. Um.
And then another beverage news. I just like that. This
is oh that oh this news story. Yeah, this is

(56:45):
a bummer. This is more of a hack. And I
saw this. Do you guys see this? This was going around,
This is going around. It's like from an old article.
But suddenly like a lot of people started writing it
up again. So we find out that there's a thing
flight attendants do not do. There's one thing that a
lot of flight attendants they just know better. When you're
on a flight, you do not do this one thing,
and that is to drink straight up coffee or tea

(57:08):
on an airplane, or drink any of the fucking tap
water on a plane, because it is disgusting. Right, So
this is any anything that does not come in a bottle,
a bottle or a can that is like where you
can see that the seal has been broken. Like doctors
even say, don't fill up a water bottle for a baby.

(57:29):
Like now we're not talking about like in the sink
in the bathroom, obviously you don't use that, but like
even the drinking water that the carry around. Yeah, so
they said, yeah, or if you're immunocompromised, don't you know
because there was a study. This is like fourteen years ago,
but still I think it still holds true. I think
they refer to some other more relevant stuff too. But
they said an a sample of hundred fifty eight planes

(57:51):
contained cauliform. Two of the airplanes are found to have
dangerous E. Coli in the water. And then another thing,
they say, the e p A study found that one
in every eight plane as fails the agency's standards for
water safety. Now, keep in mind the e p A
is the government body that they look over and they
make sure the standards for plane water isn't in their purview.
So considering where the e p A is right now,

(58:13):
I don't think I would probably worry even more whatever
the fund is in there, because I don't think anybody's
gonna be checking now. I say, roll the dice, don't
be don't be a wiss. Rolled the dice, drink the
drink the water. Drink as much as they will give you,
and you will be stronger. It's the same reason I
suggest licking the floor of bathrooms when you're at the bar,
just it just makes you strong. That my mom cannot
recommend Robert's advice on this. Uh. Robert also likes to

(58:35):
make drugs that haven't been taken by humans in a
hundred years, as a whole book about that. So I'm
just saying, when society collapses, those of us who have
been drinking the filthy airplane coffee will be the ones
who build the world. I mean, anybody who I think
had it was a dirty little kid and God just
shipped all over you like dirt and you're just eating

(58:56):
garbage or whatever like I used to. You're you got
that good, good diversity hopefully in your music. Yeah, that's
strong constitution. It's like Danny DeVito, that's why he's unkillable.
I assumed that he is the same as he isn't
always sunny, and he's trash. Your second Danny DeVito ref same.
One of the better myths that I've had busted for

(59:17):
me is, for some reason, I always assumed planes where
and we've talked about this before, but in case you
didn't hear that episode, I always assumed that it was
the air being like spit back at us through the
air filters and planes that like the air was full
of germs. And it's just that every surface in an airplane,
like they don't get cleaned everyone like how quickly they

(59:39):
go in for like five minutes they Yeah, So it's
like sitting in a you know, public restroom. Literally like
you're sitting in a bar restroom and you're putting your
face down on it and you're you know, it's really
bad for you. So like the first if you want
to avoid germs, if you just wear a biohazard suit, right,

(01:00:00):
but no, just like wipe down your seat, wipe down
everything around you. That's uh one of the best things
or you do I do. I buy a plane outfit
which is a really cheap's just T shirt and pants
from you know, a thrift store, and I throw it
away pond landing. I don't want to wear it no
publicly as I walk off like I'm wearing an oversized

(01:00:22):
tweetie bird shirt like weird sweatpants like what is He
explained about a lot about how people dress on planes.
I'm sure there are people who are that concerned about
their gramps who have like throwaway clothes. Uh, Robert, it's
been a lot of fun having you man. Thank you.
Where can people find you? Follow you online? Well, they

(01:00:43):
can find my podcast Behind the Bastards. We just had
another episode drop on Tuesday. Uh, and we'll have another
one coming out on Thursday. It's a two part series
on Charles Coke, The Luke Skywalker of rich People. So
I recommend checking that out, The Luke Skywalkers People. That's
how he views himself. He just said was a Nazi,
well not, his dad built a critical piece of infrastructure

(01:01:06):
for the Nazis, and also said that the Nazis were
the people who had the best culture in the world
in night right. Yeah, and also by a Nazi nanny, yes,
who made who measured his poop every morning, right, and
literal Nazi went and was like, yeah, hey, I've loved
being your nanny. But this Nazi things popping off over

(01:01:27):
during World War Two. I'm going to go back to Germany.
She left in nights how they're going to celebrate the
victory over France with Hitler. That's tight. And you know,
I just like Luke skyro Gary also heard his uncle
Ben and on Brew were tragically killed. Yes, yes, and
that that I'm not going to make fun of him
for that. I mean, And you know, I think Charles
cokestream was just to go to Tashi station for some
power converters. Yeah, that's that's what all of us want. Yeah. Yeah.

(01:01:50):
You can also find me on Twitter at I right, okay,
and you can find my book that Jack mentioned on Amazon,
a Brief History Advice, So that's where you can find me.
And also, do you have a tweet you've been enjoying. Yes, yes,
it's the guy who did the tweet about a genie
and he asked the genie to uh. The genie said
he had two wishes, and his first wish was to
replace every every G with a P, and his second

(01:02:12):
wish was to replace an E at the end of
every word with an S. And so the genie's name
was Penis by the end of the joke. It's a
great it's a great Twitter gag. That is awesome. H
miles where can people find you? You can find me
on Twitter and Instagram at miles of Gray, and you know,
shout out to Christi Yamagucci name who through some Reddit sleuthing,

(01:02:33):
I figured out that there is a dailis like I
subreddit that they'd be running. So shout out to guy
subreddit where you guys talk about the show. I see
you out there. I'm stalking on Twitter. Uh. And in
terms of a tweet that I'm feeling uh comes from
Alexei Alexander, which who she wrote a tweet said, shout
out to white mail critics who have trouble connecting to
crazy rich Asians and black Klansman. Does it not speak

(01:02:56):
to your experience? What's that like? I'm so lucky to
have all these movies teaching multicultural feminists or Arabs and
creative industries like myself. I can't imagine. All right, And
a tweet I was enjoying from Omar nadjom it starts
out teacher sees student sharing a note. Teacher, why don't
you read that out loud? Student reading note? Dear teacher,

(01:03:18):
this is an intervention. Your method that discipline be a
public humiliation or uninspired carbon copies of Hollywood trumps. We
wrote this letter as a class uh and you can
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(01:03:41):
for this episode in the description of the episode as
well as on our website. Footnotes are why we link
off to the information that we've talked about source that ship,
and we also link off to the song that we
write out on miles. What's that gonna be? What is
that going to be? I think I want to play
a raven lin A song and I know during four

(01:04:03):
twenty week I've played a track from her that was
called Sticky, that was produced by Steven Lacey that has
like a very sort of new R and B vibe
to it. This is a track called sleep Talking. The
production is much more you know, beady. I got that
little bit of sort of fly low extra percussion in
the background, but this is sleep Talking by raven Linna.

(01:04:25):
All Right, we're gonna write out on that. We will
be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast to
get by m h full unto the world, will not

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make a side? Where can we be like child trend?
Then she in the crowd turn to the round. Do

(01:05:37):
let's make a shid? Can we can we? Can we
be like child trend? Don't she in the crowd sleep
and side by side, our fingers intertwined. We never seem

(01:05:58):
to find or I think so, you say when we
are awake, I cannot closure. I'll cv up your hide.
Ask if for trying to hide that things will never
find out. Wish you would say that's will be open.

(01:06:18):
Our stomach is not enough normal, or maybe I'm not
everything you've got normal? Or I used to listen to
your hearts feed while you're dreaming softly. I wish you
would have told me that she do not s no more.
I wish you would have spoken before our finger's broken.

(01:06:55):
It's and their DP on your dreaming vegans with no
worries and stories of life way back when when your
sister would issue and still you she issue. I'm sorry,
I'm sorry that that hads you end love and thirty
speaking slowly, say it's only when we say you wait,
said you only I would not pretend this. I needed

(01:07:19):
that but often if we would not pretend that we
could be friends when I left it, if you when mystaying,
your peaceful answer to to be when thirty. You're so
so lucky that I do not trust me. You only
speak away if your hands can help me? How do
I understand? How do I understand? But you can't. Can't

(01:07:43):
come guy? It can we can? We? Can? We be
like child trunk speaking right to me. You people always
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