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November 18, 2019 73 mins

In episode 518, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Classic Black Dude podcast host Clark Jones to discuss witness intimidation in the impeachment inquiry, Pete Buttigieg's plan for Black America, Roger Stone's guilty conviction, Donald Trump Jr.'s new book, and more!

FOOTNOTES:

  1. Fox News Reporter Grasps at Straws: Constitution ‘Doesn’t Say Anything About Witness Intimidation’
  2. Mayor Pete’s Big Announcement About Black Support Cited People Who Aren’t Black and Don’t Support Him
  3. Trump bemoans 'double standard' in Stone conviction
  4. The Idiot’s Guide to the Roger Stone trial
  5. Roger Stone Leaves the First Day of His Trial Early Over Alleged Food Poisoning
  6. DOJ Presses Judge To Allow ‘Godfather: Part II’ Clip At Roger Stone Trial
  7. Prosecutor says Roger Stone lied because 'the truth looked bad for Donald Trump'
  8. Insults, threats and ‘Godfather’ impressions: Feds parade Roger Stone witness-tampering evidence
  9. Donald Trump Jr. Calls Trans Athletes ‘Mediocre Men’ in New Book
  10. Donald Trump Jr. Likens Sacrifices Of Fallen Troops To Those Made By His Family
  11. DONALD TRUMP JR.: MY DAD CAN’T BE RACIST BECAUSE HE LET ME HANG OUT WITH MICHAEL JACKSON
  12. Republican Party Reportedly Pumping Up Sales Of Donald Trump Jr.’s New Book, $50 Gets Donors A Signed Copy
  13. Donald Trump Jr walks out of Triggered book launch after heckling – from supporters
  14. WATCH: DJ Shadow - Kings & Queens feat. Run The Jewels [HQ Audio]

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season one on nine,
episode one of Joe Daly's Eight Guys production of I
Heart Radio. This is a podcast where we take a
deep dive into America's shared consciousness and say, officially, off
the top, fuck the Cooke Brothers and fuck Fox News.
It's Monday, November eighteen, two nine ten. My name is

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Jack O'Brien ak. These jacks are made for lifting. That's
literally what they do. One of these days, Jack is
gonna lift your car up to an assault to somebody
said that you're giving out sympathy bombs. D J Daniels.

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He was ready for that, Yeah, but tell me lost
his voice in that rollerblading accident. Thank you for Hannah
saultas bringing attention to the true meaning of my name,
un implement for lifting up cars when you get a
flat and I'm thrilled to be joined as always by
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body were in here? What's the man? It's so much one.
I don't even know if the news and man is
able to keep up between which I'll send me last
night and right now is different? Oh my goodness, nothing

(02:09):
is the same. That's why we have to do two
shows a day. That's why we need four people in
the booth and one overseeing us. One man in the
booth of the back, the man in the back with
noble voice, oh man starting five. Yeah. I wonder are
there people that have Stephen Hawkins disability that just use
a soundboard instead of like one of those typing machines.

(02:31):
That would be like a gen Z move. They're like
they don't want Yeah, like with the with the exactly
just a Schwartzenegger soundboard, a bunch of dropsy Netflix need
that special. I got everything else. Stephen Hawking with an
MPC on stage, hitting them up. Uh, well, Clark, we're

(02:56):
going to get to know you a little bit better
in a moment. First, we're gonna tell our listeners a
couple of things we're talking about. We're gonna tell you
where we are with the impeachment inquiry. I'm talking you know,
we're a little bit behind you guys, but uh, we
are where we are, and it's important for you to
know for frame of reference. We're gonna talk about we

(03:18):
are we are so whatever, whatever, whatever. We're gonna check
him with mayor Pete. We're gonna see what he has
to say. I'm really pitching the funk out of these stories.
Roger Stone's going away, yeah, how long unless he gets

(03:41):
pardon my interruption, We're gonna look at his defense. What
what he uh? What his defense had to say? He's
losing strategy. Also, just he was doing some he was
doing what I believe is known in legal circles as
the most during his trial. So we're gonna talk about that.

(04:02):
We're gonna talk about the number one New York Times
bestseller with a dagger, which means a lot of bulk purchases. Uh. Yeah,
I love the New York Times. This petty like that, like,
we can't let these people lie. It's actually not a dagger.
It's a needle. Dick in the bottom of the needle.

(04:22):
Jake represents bulk purchases, not a legit number one. Uh.
And we're going to say r I P to milk
nine million b C. I don't know when. When is
the first I guess milk, Well, probably the first humans.
Well look, we don't need to figure out, right, But
that's breast milk. You mean cow's milk. I guess, yeah,

(04:44):
the moment we started using milk from other animals. Did
you'll ever watch the the documentary, like the a documentary
about the Got Milk campaign. No, it's it's great. It's
on um. I shouldn't do free advertising, but it's one
wanting your streaming that one of those whichever one you got,
used it from your ex um. But yeah, the whole

(05:05):
Got Milk was just like I don't know. We just
need people to buy milk. It was just nothing because
it wasn't for a company. It was just like, it's
just something we needed to do. And it's also to
get this milk off these cows out here just frolicking
and put the word right now, no free, no free rents.

(05:27):
That's also why they were giving away cheese and fast
food during the eighties and nineties is because they had
excess milk fat because everybody started buying skin milk. Very
strange story. They had a cave, a cold cave. They
still have milk fat. We were talking about now that
the cheese deposits are getting too much. Now we have
too much. People aren't eating cheese like they used like
they used to, Yeah, I like eat damn eating. Is

(05:50):
the cheese from yeah from Berlin? I think it's Eastern European.
I'm fancy. I don't know if you can tell the
Nike Corti, but so I know I know what y'all
be eating there you go. Is that like a milk

(06:11):
cheese or is that like it's a Semihart cheese from
Holland from Yeah lequer as they say, oh man on
a brioch bun would like, yes, sandwich oil, pepper, a
little halle jard Rat Yeah, yeah, I think Jardin Aaron

(06:33):
makes pretty much anything better I buy at the store
like Vienna, like that company makes like a prepackaged one,
because aren't they the ones who does. Yeah, that's why
I think I bought it, because the Midwest person was like,
if you got to buy the store about one, don't
buy your new fangle come yard go home. Yeah yeah,
the yard they come, they come. Uh Clark, we like

(06:59):
to ask, I guess what it's from your search history?
That's really about who you are. Oh ship. I was
just looking up the career David Hyde, Pierce, David Hyer. Yeah, man,
because they got the Frasers coming back, they're saying, and
I don't know how they're gonna do. Um John the Dad,
I'm sorry, I probably Fraser Twitter, do not coming at
do not coming Frasier Twitter is rough. But yeah, I

(07:27):
was just looking up all the things that he did, man,
and like like just his history so that's just a lot.
Yeah he was. He's a theater guy, so like yeah,
and I love theater. So like I was just looking up, um,
you know, just his career and like how he got
to Frasier and different shows he was on it. I had,
I didn't. I never watched Fraser, but I respected him
when he was in wet, hot American summer, yes, and

(07:49):
he said, oh, fuck my cock, and I was like,
what he's He's just a he's a master turned in
a singular phrase. There was a There was the episode
of Frasier where he was trying to get back into
the dating the scene and it was like this mixer
and he got rejected by a woman and Fraser Axson
what happened? He was like, her lips said no, but
her I said, read my lips. That's like the greatest

(08:15):
line history to me. In the way that he said
it was just like love just nailed that. It's amazing
because those shows just had the same premise for like
ninety percent of their jokes, but they were just good
every time. They just like new writer's rooms turning over
if people just making the same like low status smart
guy jokes over and over. The beautiful thing is that

(08:38):
it covered everybody because the pompous smart crowd they were
like Frasier Niles and then the the International was Daphne,
and then the the you know Joe Shmo American was
was dead so and dogs loved you know Eddie so
like it was they worked it in and what if
you were what if you weren't white? That one Space

(09:06):
Needle episode, woman with her hands on her knees, trying
to look like yeah like this just watching a Fresh
Prince run. I've been to Seattle, man, it should have
been way more Asian representation or Fraser Northwest. I didn't even,
like you really get to find out, um where the
poor people of any type of race are if you
go to the greyhound station in that city, like I didn't.

(09:30):
I've never seen, you know, I grew up in Chicago,
lived in New York, and I've never seen this large,
like poor Asian representation until I took a megabus to
from Vancouver to Seattle, and I'm like, oh, this is
like yeah, right right, this is some diversity. And you
don't never true story. Stop telling stories about Fraser having

(09:56):
sucked his piano teacher when he was a child. It's
the Lord. I believe that was an episode. There's at
least that's what they laugh at off. That's what scrambled
eggs and that toss out with It's all the reference
to that episode, uh scrambled eggs because never mind never
about to come. That's all will say. I'm not going

(10:22):
to pull up from that bar. Whole face is turning
to red. I love it and I wish I knew
what you were going to say. Shakes are Rosie. David
Hyde Pierce had a small role in The Terminator. Did
you know that? I did not know that. I didn't
know that either. Wait what he should have been? Was
he like, yeah, is he the fetus? And Sara he
broke the glass? No? I guess he was. Yeah, I

(10:44):
guess he was maybe like one of the punks in
the bar scene didn't see the new one? Is it
any good? I have? I hear it's bad, But that's
not gonna stop me because I've seen every Terminator film.
David Cameron's back so like they said, like that touch
is back there, but it's just like David Cameron from
the UK at The Politician, the James David Cameron had

(11:09):
on the background of what's something you think is underrated?
H John Wooders phone res in Peace recently passed, and
like if you were in a black sitcom or anything
black and funny in the nineties, really. He made it
like he's one of the few who did Martin and
Fresh Prince of bel Air, Like that's really kind of

(11:31):
like a couta time. You know, black sitcoms, most people
are split between two, which one did you like more?
But he did. He did them all the Father from
the Wayna's Brothers, and he stole the show in Boomerang
with Eddie Murphy and he was only on screen for
about three minutes, but he gave us three quotes the
Bang Bang Bang coordinate and uh I concurse on here. Yeah,

(11:56):
don't don't be pussy with He gave us three class
six in under three minutes. Yeah, he was. He was
just the best. I was watching some of the eulogies
from his funeral service. I mean, why I've never been
more like engaged while listening to eulogies because like you're
hearing so many great comedians talk about their experiences how

(12:17):
much they looked up to him. There was one where
Shaun Wayns was talking about the first time he met him.
He was like, this dude is so funny and I
don't know, like I know like when I'm when I
have something going, like I want to work with him
and he said the second him in Marlin realized that
the Wayns Brothers show was about to be something. They
were like, we're gonna get him to be Pops, like

(12:37):
he has to play our father. They tried to get
Danny Glover for the NBC tried to get Danny Glover
and they walked away because they couldn't get John with
his phone. And then he went to the w B. Yeah,
they're like, hey, we like. NBC was like we it's
either Danny Glover we walk, like, you can't have the show.
And they were like, all right to you get to

(13:01):
bed and they were like we won Johnny withersphone. And
they ended up walking and they did the w B instead,
and the rest is history. What is something you think
is overrated? Joe Biden? And it's not for the reason
people think, like, I know, there's an obviously anti white

(13:21):
male thing happened in this country. I don't know if
you're familiar with it was this article, but yeah, yeah,
one problem from who shut down. Uh he's just like
my my categorization. He's the plus one at a party

(13:42):
who stayed after the person who brought him left like that.
He like we and he went to the bathroom. We
needed him three years ago. Now he's back when he
wants to run. The ox coort like, but like, bro,
we've been listening to hoopersnank for three years. We needed
you when Obama left, and now he's like back, I
just don't. I don't And Patrick dwal Patrick, I'm sorry

(14:03):
he was jumping in Now I think he's gonna cut
into some of those votes. Are just all of these
people are cutting into him, Bloomberg Bloomberg like, yeah, the center,
the center of the media is so thirsty for a
centrist to rise that is not Joe Biden because I
think they're tired of Joe Biden. To Pete's really surgeon
and like he hasn't really surged, Like the crazy thing

(14:26):
is everything that we see, we go, what did he
just say? But like the people who are inside, they
get the even like crazier votes and they know the
in depth, off the record history. So if they're like, yo,
even Hillary is like many many people are telling me
to run again. I'm like, first of all, nobody said that,

(14:46):
but but it's like they just know that it's going
to get bad if he's he's the nominee. Yeah. Oh, yeah,
just to see the parade of people being like maybe
Herman Cain is like trying to be It's like everybody right,
there's been to to like people are coming out of
the woodworks, like damn, I ain't seeing you since that moment,

(15:07):
but he wants on the time. How like Diamond and Silker,
like you just might be there's yeah, what is a myth?
What something people think it's true? You know to be false?
Two things. Vegans get a harder time than they should
because I'm seeing someone who's vegan, and like my attitude

(15:28):
has been dope the past couple of days, like eating
just try to eat buffalo cauliflower once instead of buffalo
wing the voiceless man. Yeah, good thing. It's just like
it won't it won't you know, it's like sage, like
it won't magically make you better, but it might kick

(15:51):
out some of the negative energy that you have and
you just try try to go vegan for a day
and see, you know, sorry to the milk people, sorry
you know, to the cows, more chicken whatever, but like
just try try to try to try for a day
to try to put hormones extra hormones. Milk people are
the underrated evil industry in American history, So you don't

(16:11):
have to apologize people. Yeah, they go hand. Oh man,
we had a baby day. We got to get milk there,
had it too easy for too long before. Yeah, I've
heard people starting to like do veganism during the week
and then treating themselves on the weekends. That seems like

(16:31):
a good a good strategy. I'm like, can I give
that a shot? Veekend? Yeah, that's the new weekend album.
He's rebooting himself. Let's talk about impeachment. Yeah, oh, will
this creep get impeached? I mean, I think they got me.

(16:54):
It's dicey man, even I like with the impeachment, I
could see it not happening and him trying to buoy
that into see I was right, you do the impressive.
But I think what's really crazy is this Texas. I
think that's the thing. Yeah, he's scared about, like he

(17:15):
appealed to like, please don't show them like Texas, Please,
Supreme Court, please change your mind. It's never They're gonna
find out I never paid anything. So I think I
think depending on which happens, first him not getting impeached
and then the Texas are released, if the Texa are
released first and then him not getting peached, I think

(17:35):
that's bad. But if he gets not impeached and then
the Texas dropped the thing with the taxes, like you know,
I think a lot of people think because if he's
losing those cases, just me, it's like, all right, go
to Trump's Taxes dot org to get the PDF now.
But really it's to be you know, for for investigators
to see it. Even so if they bring charges based
on that, we'll get to see. But it's like still

(17:56):
like another you know, there's we have so many things
down the road to think about. But I think with
impeachment we're seeing that at the very least the Republicans, man,
are their defenses are favorizing, but they are doing this
thing where like they just asked so many dumb questions
that even I'm like getting tired of it, Like I'm like, yo,

(18:17):
I get because at this point I'm like, yeah, we
get it, man, Like I did that ship. Yeah, way
to have a good I have a good one. Call
them Fred Durst because that's some bad faith man. Whoa wow, yeah,
send podcast this. I mean, this is the end of

(18:37):
the Daily ZiT guy. Close Fulfilment movie. That is the
thing that jumps out of me is that during the
Watergate inquiry, like people were like, oh, the Republicans are
actually letting this be a trial. Like they're like, they're

(18:57):
actually letting people and they're asking questions that suggest they
don't have their mind made up there trying to find
out men were still very dominant back then. Then excuse
me the mentality right, They're like, Yo, this tank is full,
you know, because everyone now is responding like fun man, like, yeah,
we got little bits and threats to hold onto now.

(19:19):
So like it seems like the calculus is different. They're like, yeah,
they're off balance. We're still on We're still on top. Baby, Yo,
what killed me? Yesterday? I was reading the news and
Clinton chimed in, um, first the first potential first man. Uh,
he was chiming in and first of all, rest in
peace to the victims of the students and was high school.

(19:39):
But he was talking about that and see it in.
But then he added advice to Trump on how to
handle this. Did you see this? He's like, you need
to be more presidential and that's what his people are
telling him to do. So Bill Clinton and Trump's advisors
just kind of agree on how Trump should be handling
all this crazy impeachment stuff and on what airlines to fly,

(20:01):
what should be running for president again, how Epstein really
did commit suicide. Were just going over notes. It's really crazy. Yeah,
I mean we've we've been there, so, I mean the
last witness that we had was Marie Ivanovich. Yeah, the

(20:25):
ambassadors Ukraine, who he was like basically intimating that he
was going to put a hit on Basically he was
like things, He's gonna go through something. So she talked
about that, actually reading the transcript for the first time,
and somebody was like, whoa, Like I just saw all
the blood drained from your face, Like she was so terrified.

(20:45):
She's talking about how terrified she was by the president's threat,
and he starts tweeting hing testimony, talking ship at her
during her testimony. It was the first like real time
witness tampering. I don't think we've ever had that because
usually like somebody can't tweet and everybody knows it at
the same time. But like this was as she was testifying,

(21:07):
she was getting threatened by the most powerful man in
the world, Like sh talked about her by the most
powerful man in the world that is like straight up
witness tampering shout out to everybody. Still like persever man
that takes strength from from Bill Taylor, especially in Ivanovitch.
They yeah, they don't give a fun but also they

(21:28):
have so much strength within them there they can look dead.
They can look these Republicans dead in their eyes, and
no matter what's bullshit they're trying to like dress up
in their questions, they just speak directly to the heart
of the matter and they're unfazed. So that's why it
looks even worse. Like Muller would get frazzled at times,
like well, what what paragraph? Like he didn't. He was
like this isn't my thing, like you guys, He's like,

(21:50):
you hired me, Like I'm here to like wrote a report.
If you're not going to read it, that's on you. Yeah,
Whereas they are like, no, this is a fucking problem.
Don't trying to ask the disingenuous questions that are trying
to make it to oversimplify things, um big volunteering ship,
Like damn, we didn't even know that right exactly? Um
So then so Trump tweets this during her testimony. Everywhere

(22:12):
Maria Vanovitch went turned bad. She started off in Somalia?
How did that go? Then? Fast forward to Ukraine where
the new Ukrainian president spoke unfavorably about her in my
second phone call with him. It is a U S
president's absolute right to appoint ambassadors. I don't know what
any of that means, absolute, right, Okay. The interesting part though, too,
is like when he says the president spoke unfavorably, there's

(22:34):
a transcript Resalency goes, thank you so much for being
the first person to tell me to look out for Ivanovitch. Yeah,
it's like where's the call? Now? Where's that fucking calls?
So it's funny because even these other transcripts the White
House releases, it like has information like wait, hold the wait,
what so there's another call that we're not saying. Where's that?
Has there been like a because I keep looking. I'll

(22:59):
be honest, I don't read a whole track script yet.
I wasn't the best high school student, But like, is
there a thing that people can point who yet that submerged?
That's like, this is the this is the most damning
thing with the with the transcripts so far, or with
the impeachment so far. I mean, the transcript is pretty
damning because it's clear that he's asking him to you know,

(23:23):
he's basically intimating this, Yeah, it's brats extortion. And then
and he's extorting. And then we have all these people
who have note like they are you know, career, they
just want to marry what's best for America's you know,
international interests. Uh, just saying that, you know, he was

(23:43):
doing the worst possible reading of that transcript. So you
have like all this, all these witnesses, you even have
the person the phone call is pretty damning that we
just found out about him on a last week where
somebody overheard him asking about investigations. What's going on with
the president. He's only focused on these investigations, like verbatim,

(24:05):
I mean, yeah, so you have Yeah, it's clear that
the aid was held up. It's clear why the aid
was held up based on all the people who are
testifying as to what the explanations were, which are sort
of like you'll lean on them to get them to
announce an investigation and they'll get their aid and they'll
get their visit because A and this is again what

(24:25):
they need to underline. The visit is very important to
President Zelinsky because as a new president, when you get
that photo op, you flick it up one time with
the president, then that communicates to the rest of the
world with them they're they're, they're, they're, they're up their
allies now. And then on top of that, when you
hold up he's like, oh, you want your little precious
uh fucking javelin missiles to fight off Russian tanks. You know.

(24:49):
Then now you're working with their safety and being like,
oh you want these, okay, well this is what you
need to do. And then the thing is, it's not
like he's just saying, Okay, we'll get the aid if
you do to research. He's basically find something, not not
just look it up, looking up find something that I
can use. They know they can read his intent, but

(25:09):
really he just wanted of he wanted a video clip
of the president saying we are investigating the Biden's literally
they said he wanted They wanted him to go on
CNN like they had the outlet in mind. They were like,
so you're going on CNN to say this, Yes, yes,
that's what you're gonna do. The Democrats kind of gradually

(25:31):
changing how they're messaging this from quid pro quo, which
was a Republican term in the first place, to bribery.
What Miles, you you have the political background. I need
you to explain this to me. Why are they not
saying he's trying to cheat at the election, the election
that's happening that people like, even the people who are

(25:52):
like yo, like don't let's let's not impeach him. The
reason they're saying that is because let's just decided on
the election. Need an actual charge they can they can
define it's just like not concrete enough. Yeah, it's too nebulous,
I think to say that that's what it Obviously that's
the intent. But there's because let's see, that's why they're
using the Latin of like the quid pro quo, because

(26:12):
in league they can say this is a legal term,
where this is a legally defined act that we can
say it's very clear. It's not nebulous. They can say
that's straight up what it is, right, And I think
that's I think they're a little too hung up on
being rigid about well, it's it's it's this thing, and
let's be very narrow because when we try to do
all the obstruction in Russia and other ship it's got

(26:35):
it's just too desperate that they couldn't actually like really
get it focused. It's that same ship with like the
both sides, the journalism and stuff, where it's just like
they have I feel like people are holding themselves to
these technicalities and it's like just talk to people, like
intelligent people and just be like, you know, this is
what it is. You know, this is what it I think.
But it's it's easier to just say this dude is

(26:57):
abusing the funk out of his power. Bottom line, why
that's the election or not. You can obviously you can
argue what the intent of that is, because that's already
what they're doing is being like, well, it's actually not
because the election, it's because even the this is and
this is where I think this is why because they
say even during the Obama administration, there were there were
concerns raised over the fact that Hunter Biden was working
at parismas. So it's like you said, like it's a

(27:20):
it's an intentional usage of terms that and then redefine
what the term means, like that's been kind of the strategy,
like it's not a witch hunt when we know who
the witches, right, we know we're not hunting for a witch.
We know he keeps tweeting. We know exactly where the
witch is. It's it's not it's just not a quid
pro cod like trying to define the define what the

(27:42):
term is is because it's a term that you can
you can beat, you know what I mean. And I
think it's or just make the make it really clear
on how this abuse of power is too, because I
think if you're I mean, like everyone's so partisan now,
like I don't think it really even matters if you
have like a really clear way to or a metaphor
or anything. But it's like if a police officer had

(28:04):
a gun, you can use that gun correctly right to
possibly defend yourself or you could rob somebody for their
cell phone, and then it's like we'll see now you
would like, but that's your right to use the gun
as a police like none of it. There's a difference. Right,
one is actually in service of the community if we
I mean, I think it's about analogy but anyway, and
the other is to for purely your own personal benefits. Yeah,

(28:27):
And I think that's where you know, we'll see because
I think if they can get one good, like if
they can get a Multane or Bolton up there, then
it'll be it'll help. But I think, really what what's
interesting though to me is that even in the Senate,
they don't have the votes to outright just dismiss this
as soon as he gets there. So I think that's
where obviously there's a growing number of people in the

(28:50):
electorate that believe that this is terrible, and that's slowly
i think, translating to pressure into the Senate. But you know,
it's got to be a problem because they keep in
the pain. It is boring and I'm not gonna watch it,
but they don't comment on it. I'm not watching that.
But also that party, that party stupid actually didn't want
to go anyway. Yeah, what are they serving? I mean

(29:13):
that was legit. Fox News was just like this so
boring and lame and like nobody's gonna pay attention because
it's not sexy. Well, because when the facts are fucking you,
you gotta be like, yeah, but it ain't like hot.
It's not hot though, it's like spit video, it ain't
like it ain't the right thing. So and this is

(29:33):
the point though, so after Trump straight up witness tampers
in real time are intimidating in real time. Adam Schiff
was like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Just you know, this is
some wild ship um and essentially saying that, like this
could be interpreted as some form of intimidation tactic. And
then when Fox during their break in the testimony, they

(29:53):
had to talk about it. This is the fucking defense
of Trump tweeting at this witness in real time. Was
now something else that was said by Adam Schiff, of
the chair of the Intelligence Committee. He indicated that this
might be an attempt to intimidate the witness. Now, when
we look at the u s Constitution and we look
at Article two, Section four, it doesn't say anything about

(30:13):
witness intimidation. You know, it talks about high crimes and misdemeanors, bribery,
which is a theme we've heard a lot about here.
But you could see potentially that Democrats could use that
moment to try to tie into an article of impeachment. Yeah, democrats,
And you see I think this is why too. You
see how narrowly even they talk about it on the right,
It's almost like, okay, so if if this is the

(30:35):
vocabulary we're gonna restrict ourselves to then I'm gonna put
you in a box where you can't be like, well,
uh you know, uh, witness standpring is not in there.
It's like bribery is I think it's a mistake to
let the right kind of set the terms, and like
they just I think they need to get get at
the he's trying to cheat at the election, because I

(30:56):
think that is the thing that's different about this. But
I guess who do you think that would compel? It's
just it's the truth about the overall terms that I
keep seeing everybody get lost in like little like you're saying,
it's like the fucking quid pro quo versus like bribery
versus like versus extorts and versus witness tampering, and it's

(31:17):
just like overall, this is what this dude is doing,
and you guys are just losing the forest for the trees.
I feel like, here's what I think the Democrats in
the actual um trial or the hearings are actually doing that.
But the Republican publicly the pr war is what they're

(31:37):
trying to win because I don't think they're gonna win
in court, so like the pr part is right, just
like yeah, like, well people, it impeachment is boring, you
know what I mean, It is boring, especially if you're losing.
So it's like, well, let's just make it as flowery
on Twitter on social media, so people, this is public

(31:57):
outcry against it. I mean, I just think if you
really extend this thing out, it becomes about so much
like if you really take the time to like mine
every thread that they're finding, it's gonna show so like
it's a much bigger picture. Like we're looking at a
fucking ZiT on like an elephant's ass and trying to
figure out what we're looking at, and we're like, oh,

(32:19):
she'll zoom out. Actually this whole other fucking when we're
getting really caught on that. Because I think ultimately, right
we talked about this in the beginning, is that if
the you know, if the Ukrainians go to the table
with the Russians and you know, seed part of crimea
at least like the politically to Russia and there's no
more conflict. I guess on paper, that means no more

(32:41):
sanctions against Russia. If they can if they can say
that the Ukrainians meddled in the elections. That means no
more sanctions for Russia for meddling in the elections. So
there's this other element too that like these little micro
movements also reverberate in much larger ways down the road.
And when you also see that, I don't know if

(33:02):
it's going to come up about how the president did
this with the last Ukrainian president, about being like uh yo,
um you want these javelins, something like this happened before.
That's how he goes about his business. Yeah, like what
do I have on you? What do you need? How
can I use that to get what out? And I
think it's I think the Republicans are getting off easy
by just thinking that the motives are just to you know,

(33:24):
smear Joe Biden. I think that's where it's. They're like,
oh yeah, yeah, this thing is being powered by a
much different motor. But I guess right now and how
narrow it is. And I don't know, I mean that
could be because the Mueller Report wasn't as sexy as
they thought to tie all this ship to Russia. That
they're just like fun it just like let's think they're

(33:45):
just like scared and everybody's you know, just his tactics
work man like. The media is just yeah, they're they're
kind of letting them define the terms. It's frustrating to me.
But we're gonna take a quick break, will be right back,

(34:10):
and we're back. And the other biggest story, that's another
reason that I think they should talk about that. The
other biggest story is election, you know, talking about the
twenty the fact that the impeachment is about the election.
You know, there's a reason elections such a big story
because it fucking matters. Uh. And so narrowing it to

(34:35):
just Mr Pete Boudege, the centrist, the great quite hope
for centrists who just are desperate for somebody. Besides, Biden
sent out an email last week about his support from HBCUs. Right, yeah,
then well you know it's this is a clipping, right

(34:56):
they say in it HBCU Times for historically black colleges
un in universities. Again to zoom out a bit, he
Boudaja has a really big problem with getting support from
black voters because of his time as a mayor. Uh
and just relative in action or just firing his Look,
there's there's a lot of things going around that for

(35:17):
black voters are like, m I'm not so sure about
this person. Yeah. Absolutely, I mean this is where I
stepped in. Well, actually I went to an HBC U
and um shout out to Morehouse College in Atlanta, and
uh yeah, I mean Indiana has a problem with black people,
you know what I mean, Like growing up in Chicago,
it was just like I've I've gotten pulled over maybe

(35:41):
like long distances three times and it was always in Indiana.
They have a problem with it. But um, and I
don't know what there's anything he can do. Yeah, it's
like active and it's still like very popular. Um So
I don't, I don't, I don't know, I don't know
what Bouda Jay has, what plan he has, well he

(36:02):
has you know, he released the Douglas Plan that was
about reinvesting in like communities of color and things like that,
about trying to create some quine of of increased equity. Um,
and most people that just sort of came a win
because most people really aren't taking him seriously when it
comes to things like that HBC used in Indiana. So
how would you even know? Well yeah, right, just yeah, yeah. Um.

(36:26):
So this headline in this in this email says more
than so from the HBCU Times, more than four hundred
South Carolinians endorsed Mayor p Budhagas Douglas Plan for Black America. UH.
It says by Columbia City Council member to make a
divine South Carolina Democratic Party Black Caucus chair Johnny Cordero
UH and a pastor and state representative Ivory Thigpen. And Okay,

(36:51):
that's that's there. You're like, Okay, that's interesting, there's some
support there. The Intercept started digging in a little bit
and found that two of those three people I just named,
they never supported the plan. They said, so, this is
from Ivory thig Pen. Even though I had had conversations
with the Buddage campaign, it was clear to me, or
at least I thought I made it clear to them
that I was a strong Bernie Sanders supporter, actually co

(37:13):
chair of the state and I was not seeking to
endorse their candidate or the plan. But what I had
talked about was potentially giving them a quote of support
in continuing the conversation, because I do think it's a
very important conversation. The next person, Johnny Cordero, I never
endorsed that plan. I don't know how my name got
on there. No, that's not true. I know how my
name got on there, before explaining that Buddha Judge had

(37:34):
emailed him the plan and asked for feedback, which began
a conversation with Budda Judge's staff. Quote this is from
Johnny Cordero. I had some difficulties with it. The long
and the short of it was, they never sufficiently answered
my questions, so I never actually endorsed the plan. Also,
they also when they looked around the people they could
identify from this four hundred uh you know, the four

(37:54):
hundred South Carolinians that had endorsed it. Those people were white.
So it seems like they were trying to be a
little tricky and associate South Carolinians with black voters. Um.
And then when they looked when the intercept asked about
like you know, these people are saying that they did
they don't support it, They're like, oh, well, we sent
an email which was basically like an opt out email.

(38:18):
I was saying like this is about to print. If
you want to retract your support, please let us know
in this email so you can opt out. Wow, like
an unsubscribed exactly. Or or it's like or your free
trial has ended and we will begin with you. I
just love any quote that was like I never heard
of that. Actually, I don't know how they got that information. Actually,
it's not true got that information. I want to see

(38:42):
I want to see somebody saying, hey, wait, no, I
know how to exactly wait wait oh this is about that. Yeah.
So they started email conversation with me getting my opinion
on it, and that turned into an endorsement. So I
think a lot of people are just sort of being like,
that's a little disingenuous there, but you know, politics, politics,
it's just this this it's so dirty to just blatantly lie,

(39:06):
have the story get out there, and by the time
the correction gets out, it's already more. Ye, it's an
old story. Email is actually sent on October ago, yeah exactly,
and then only this like last week, they kind of
went through and be like, hold on, the two of
these three people you're naming is like your top line
endorsers are like I never said that he's leading in

(39:29):
Iowa though, which was shocked the ship out of me. Yeah.
I mean, I think I always seem there's still very malleable,
like there aren't as many people who are dead set,
like there are a lot of people who are still
kind of being like people who don't still not know.
I think, I think you just what you want to see.
If you're being completely holistic, you want to be like,

(39:51):
what's every person's plan, so I can put them all
on the table and then go through them like that
if you're being very, very thorough. I also think alphabetically,
Bouta is first, right, so they Biden, Oh yeah, and
then you're like, no, he's crazy. So yeah, they just
went with the next name. Yeah, it'll be Biden, Bloomberg,
budde Yeah. I don't even think like Bloomberg missed some

(40:13):
of the deadlines already. Yeah, he's missed a few. I
think he's more focused on Iowa New Hampshire. But they
have said that that's a big like plus for a
candidate being listed first on the ballot. That's why they
randomize it. Because but again, this is the thing, and

(40:34):
we said this when Bloomberg was talking about getting in
the race. Him entering the race pulls support away from
the Buddha judges, Biden's patricks of the world. Who's his
base for Bloomberg, it's billionaires. Yeah, the media apparatus. Based
on what I saw on MSNBC when he announced people

(40:54):
people with their mouths out loud or like he could
be the unifier. I was like, okay, all right, general electric, Yeah,
I feel like never Trumpers, like the Republicans who are
going to vote against Trump, like the never Trumpers would
probably go more. It's still a familiar world in which
the you know, oligarch class of this country isn't in

(41:16):
the crosshairs of more political reforms. Who had to quote
about socialism never took off because most people think they're
just billionaires who's going through a down period something like that.
I forgot who said it, but that quote just like it,
just like I'm just going for their Yeah, thanks to change.

(41:39):
Yeah yeah, you never never know. Man, you're up, you're down,
you're up, your down. So yeah, people are just you know,
it's just this optimism to to to go with. And
I don't knock anybody for having their candidates. I know,
like a lot of the tone of especially during primaries,
people were like why coming after my candidate, Like, look,

(42:01):
you're you're free to whoever back whoever the funk you want.
At the end of the day. Uh, you know, I
implore you to really look at what the the what
the reverberations are of some of these policies. And I
can the same way. I try and look at people
who support candidates I don't quite understand and be like,
what is it that that makes you feel good about
this person? And it's not even that I think, and

(42:21):
I think a lot of people apply this whole ship
of being like, oh, you don't funk with my favorite band,
you're not, and it's really like, Yo, this is not
it's it's not like everything I know. People do take
it like that on either way, coming after people or
defending their candidates. But at the end of the day,
I just the thing we have to focus on is
fucking turning up to the polls at the end of

(42:42):
the day. And I do know that, yes, for some people,
they look at some of these candidates and they have
a very specific worldview or future of the country that
they want to see play out in real time. And
that's that's what that enthusiasm, I think fight each other.
The damning the most damning thing they can come out
of the text is is people finding out he's not
as rich as they thought he was. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

(43:04):
that amongst anything else, whether he invested in Russia. You know,
he explain all that away. But if Donald Trump is
really worth like seventy dollars, that would fucking torpedo. He's
one of us, exactly right. I hate us. I mean,
based on the fact that he had scotch tape as
a tie clip and that one thing, I was like,

(43:24):
it might be worth seventy. He might have two ties total.
I've only seen to get the one without the stains back.
He's gonna flame my greasy ass tie, he said. My
ship was looking young dresser was looking young man. All right,

(43:47):
let's talk about Roger Stone real quick. The Riddler. The
Riddler was found guilty on all seven counts he was facing,
including obstruction, lying to Congress, witness intimidation. I know it's
been a while something. He was like, I was gonna
kill you, critical or whatever. Prepared I think he yeah,
he said, prepared to die. He also told him to

(44:09):
pull a like named a Godfather character who changed his
testimony under a threat of death. And then he was
just like, oh no, I was just telling him to
doing impression because he does good impressions. And see the
thing that had happened was I was just yeah, he
fucked up. He he Basically it seems like he convinced

(44:32):
himself that like he was just doing a bit and
reality was like going along with his bit or something,
because there was just like he working around like the
Truman Show. Yeah, it was just like he I don't
know if he just lost touch with reality, but he
just seemed like he just kept Yeah he was so.
I mean it started when he was witness tampering doing

(44:54):
all this ship. He was arrested, was forced to apologize
for instagramming a threatening photo urging his followers to murder
the judge in his case. Well it wasn't that. It's
just had cross Arizona forehead, right, Yeah, it was just
a movie has t shirts. I feel like this is
just like a boomer who was not able to deal
with the Internet, Like he was just like, well that

(45:17):
was just funny to him. It's also, these people grew
up in a time where they were getting away with
this ship forever, so there was no reason for them
to think the outcome would ever be different. But like
he's always doing stunts. So this is the dude, by
the way, who has Richard Nixon tattooed on his back.
Nixon is full. Now it's just like a miniatch, not many.

(45:38):
It's not like Steve O's back. It's like it would
be like something that would cover like a whole pectoral,
but like on one side of his back. Alex P. Keaton,
he's the reason he's not faultless in this man. He
normalized Nixon. So during jury selection, a random guy moaned

(45:59):
loudly and collapsed on the floor, which I mean they
didn't say it was like somebody who Roger Stone like
placed there, but I mean it just seemed. And then
soon after Roger Stone left early, claiming he had food poisoning.
And then the biggest deal that his lawyers made was
about like not showing Godfather in the courtroom because it

(46:23):
would like taint people into thinking that he was like
trying to be a mafiosa. And right, but they're like,
it's relevant because he's referring to the character of Frank
PANTANGELI yeah, to say, there's like this is what that means,
you know what I mean? Yeah, Uh, it's our writer

(46:43):
j McNabb pointed out that like the Godfather is what
people were afraid the Joker would be to like this
generation the Godfather is to boomers. It's just like they
referenced the Godfather like other times in the transcript where
they're like Hillary Clinton's ugly, like Luca Brazzi like like it,

(47:07):
like they just fucking love love to just reference that.
It makes what do you think like the millennial equivalent
is going to be when there's you know, inevitably corrupt
as millennials running ship? What do we over reference? Mean
girls didn't here? Yeah, I mean out of here? Like yeah,

(47:30):
mean girls. I mean I think Joe gir will probably
work its way in there. I think for sure. Oh yeah,
liked Avengers reference. That's a new one every year. Really likes. Yeah,
there's they we have a much more complicated and varied
pop culture, rich media diet diet, whereas they're just all

(47:54):
pulling from the same movie that like guys were allowed
to like in the sixties. Well we all hit we're
watching the same movie back then. Right now, it could
be anything to any number of hundred and then it's
like some people make references to some streaming show I've
never heard of him, and I'm like, what that mean?
Somebody called Chris Cuomo Fredo and he tried to fight
him like another guy word for Italian people. No, it's

(48:19):
not good man. Haven't being a real frado right now? Yeah? Yeah.
In two seventeen it was reported Trump staffers were quoting Godfather.
This is just well, I guess in two thousands seventeen,
Trump staffers were quoting the Godfather in reference. They were saying,
we got to go to the mattresses. It's just like

(48:41):
this toxic masculinity that like, you know, France for Coppola
has come out multiple times and been like no, they're not,
like this is a bad pat Stop shut the funk up,
stop watching the movie. If you're going to take it
that way. And you know, the a nation full of
of like shock jocks on FM radio or just like

(49:03):
out here being like thinking it's the coolest sh well,
I guess, I mean sort of. The implications of the
Stone thing is basically that this proves that he was
the conduit between Wiki leaks and the Trump campaign. But
he said he wasn't. Trump said it wasn't. So now
people like, okay, so he was lying to Muller then,
because they have this evidence that like, no, sir, we

(49:23):
can tell that you knew about this and you were
in fact this sort of go between um. But then
they were saying in this article that his argument was
that or essentially in his mind that he wasn't trying
to deceive Congress, but that he believed that the stuff
around Wiki leaks just didn't fit the parameters of their investigation,

(49:44):
so he didn't need to talk about it. There's just
there's a there's an overassault of like from the right
and whatever. If you that's your if that's your jam,
but like of just seeing what sticks and if you
don't sticks, say, I was joking. Yeah, Like they asked m.
Julie Johnnie yesterday, like, um, hey, what do you think
about Trump maybe selling you out during this whole thing?

(50:06):
And he was like, oh, I don't think so. I
have good insurance, life insurance in case, you know, I
slip on a tub or something like that. And he's
like he was joking. Any time your lawyer have to
say you joking, it's horrible, like yeah, anything like one
person Dean can scream loud. Howard Dean can scream loud

(50:30):
once and it's like he's the screamer guy. But the
right they just will say absurd shit. It's almost like
the right are the mean girls. You know what I'm saying,
guys referring to snap them we all have of us
disappear snap and then you're that other movie. Um one thing.

(50:58):
They couldn't shake that one off, so being thank you
for that because um but when you look at it
to like with Giuliani being like, I've insurance right and
making Paul Vaney also said the similar thing too, and
they're like, are you worried about getting ousted? And he
was like, I know too much. So you see like

(51:20):
they have they're already showing he said that. Ye wasn't
like front Page. They're lifting up their shirts right now
and being like I got that bang, you know what
I mean? Like that's how they talked to Trump through right.
You know, he doesn't believe or like hear anything unless
it's coming at him through Fox News. Well, I'm saying

(51:42):
that's why they're like not through terminator, like they're like
test me like good insurance. Yeah, is so guilty looking like,
but how many people who work for him have been
found guilty of crimes? He has a rate. It's like
when I worked at the Gap, Like motherfucker's getting fired

(52:03):
every week more eventually at the gap on San hundred
North Michigan in Chicago, Trump administration. Yeah, but I think
again that just shows you what the meant. That's the
phase we're in right now is everyone is like readying
their insurance policies. Now him we got something. Yeah, They're like, okay,
you can work with me, but at your own detriment.

(52:26):
That's why it's like he keeps like it's been a week,
like is he gonna fire moment? Is he not? It's
like trying to figure out, Okay, if I do fire him,
what's going to be that cost? Is that gonna make
him talk? You know? And I'm sure Trump's like pulling
Mulvaney into like closed door meetings where he's just like,
you're not gonna say ship right right, And we've all
had like bad bosses were there where you're just like, yeah,

(52:53):
he's like having a closed door and he's asking incriminating,
obviously incriminating things like yeah, so you made the threat
and then the tape recorder. I feel like Trump wouldn't
even notice if the tape recorder fell out of the
It would have to be a tape recorder. It couldn't
be a phone with the recorder app on you. Yeah,

(53:17):
he'd believe that you could hold the phone like this,
aiming it at him a video and be like, you're
not recording this here. He's like, no, no, I'm just
I'm checking Twitter. It's just like unplugged Ethernet chords like
that photo right right, yeah, from the alb Dotti mission
from the assassination. All right, we're gonna take a quick break.
We'll be right back. And we're back, and it's time

(53:49):
to look as we always do. Flash have never done
at the New York Times best seller list because there's
a highly relevant book at number one. It's triggered, bitches, libs.
It's triggered by Donald Trump Jr. The Cowboy Bodyguard Romance,

(54:11):
not the Cowboy Bodyguard uh funk novel by l Jas
with the dude with sick abs on the cover. That's
the other book, number two, the true number one. I
guarantee they saw the sales for that Shoot through the
Roof with people being like, damn, don jew looks good
on the kind of this book. How many do you
think how many maga people bought the wrong triggered book?

(54:39):
No one even bought this book. If you really think
about it so well. First of all, it's funny that
he called it triggered, and like he has a bunch
of just horrifyingly stupid shit in there, Like he calls
uh trans women athletes mediocre menu. And he also compares
his family uh sacrificing running their business, which they haven't

(55:03):
done at all. And they continued to run their business
and make it more profitable from their father's presidency. But
in theory they were supposed to stop running their their
father's business. And he compared that to the sacrifice of
veterans within by not making a lot of money. Yeah,
think about it. I mean, well, there's a monetary value

(55:25):
to everything, and so if you think about these families
that are losing the earning value of a son who
they lost or you know, a husband, Uh, it's like
the N word for the Trump family, right. One of
the more questionable surprising claims in the book that I
did not see coming. His claim was that his his

(55:48):
dad is not racist, which I assumed he would say,
But the best he could come up with was an
anecdote from his childhood when he would let Don Jr.
And Eric play video games with Michael Jackson. M m complicated,
very complicated, but there's a layers but that is that's

(56:11):
where his mind went when they were like come up
with like how come up with an anecdote that like
paints your dad in a picture where like he's not racist,
and he was like I got it. Yeah, it's wild
when the selection process is made of like the black person,
we're supposed to go like, okay, we are proved like

(56:33):
wait a minute, he golf with O J. Best I
can do like who we're supposed to go like, okay,
well if he played with him, it's fine, Okay by
association not yeah, I'm not race, it's Michael Jackson. Yeah.
So the book immediately appeared on best seller list right

(56:54):
when it was released, but some people noticed that the
RNC is giving out sign copies of the book in
exchange for donations, which they claimed helps boost reported sales.
So it wasn't even like again, they don't even try.
They've been getting away with ship for so long, they
don't even try to cover that ship up there. It's
all glamoured. It's like it's like you know, it's like

(57:16):
even like when you meet even like in media companies
where people are just focused on the chart itself, not
the quality of the work, because like that's the currency
for some people. It's like, well, is our thing at
the top of a list versus like, is this thing
actually respected by peers that an industry that people were
trying to appeal to, And this is sort of that
exact same logic because they just need to be able

(57:38):
to be like number one, number one, number one, number one,
number one. But that's so funny because it has the
little dagger dick next to it the death asterisk on
the New York Times list, which denotes this is from
bulk purchases, just letting you know that this is a
bit of fuccory, as they call it on the New
York Times Bestsellers list. He just got booed too. Yeah,
it is funny that he called the book triggered because

(58:01):
he then did scheduled a book signing and book reading
at u c l A, the hot bed for libs.
Like Miles triggered libs get ready and so looking a
cigarette dipped in oil cutting out in front of the library.

(58:22):
So him and his girlfriend Kimberly Gilfoil showed up there
and there were protesters, but not the protesters. They wanted
because it wasn't liberal protesters. There were like a handful
of liberal protesters who were, you know, basically respectful and
didn't do that much, but there were conservative protesters who
thought that it was messed up that he wasn't opening

(58:44):
it up for questions for them to up to pone him,
because these are the people who are the who are
so right of even Trumpers that they're like, y'all not
racist enough. And that's what that's what was even more interesting.
But that just sort of this process of evolution of
the offshoots of ship bags on it right. So ship

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bags on the right started protesting and shouting and Don Jr.
Sorry getting triggered, and he only spoke for twenty minutes,
and then Kimberly got up and started shouting at the
people and telling them that their mothers were probably not
proud of them. And I bet you engage and go

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on online dating because you're impressing no one here to
get a dating person. Uh isn't that funny when people
trying to hit you with a burn from their generation
and you're like, what, Yeah, I don't even know what
that just meant. You probably got like three songs in
your zoom making fun of people for online dating? Is

(59:47):
that just showed like okay, what and just like as
a general online dating like that's a whole that I
actually found a meaningful match on many dot com. Right,
we matched on seventy three different dimensions of love? Yeah,
farmers only, which is made up significant? Is that true? Yeah?

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There's there. Yeah, the people who one of the dudes
who's like the face of the harmony, that gray haired guy.
I'm pretty sure he um he's in one of the
social sciences that u u c l A. And there
was like a bit of debate between people in that
department of like what you're doing isn't exactly science, Like
you're selling people a concept that based on studies we've done,
like we found correlation, but to be like the seventy

(01:00:31):
three dimensions like whatever that ship is. Yeah, yeah, anyway,
keep it down. We're making money over here. Yeah yeah, anyway, Oh, Jack,
actually time to do an ad for e harmony dot com. Yeah,
I know. I met Miles on higher a Beard. Well, Clark,
it's been a pleasure having you. Man. Where can people

(01:00:53):
find you? Follow? You find me everywhere at the Clark
Jones th h E. E. C L A r K
In Yes, but most importantly and thank you to you guys.
You guys a big influence. Classic Black Dude podcast. Make
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(01:01:15):
share Listen to a Classic Black Dude on anywhere that
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some performances too, Yes, I'll be out in um Virginia.
I'll be in Norfolk. Uh they one at the Attics Theater.
Then I'll be at the Big Hunt in DC the
twenty two and three. And now I'll be at the

(01:01:36):
Knitting Factory in Brooklyn on Sunday to boom. So it's
that game come out? Uh where? And is there a
tweet you've been enjoying? Oh? Ship? Um? Oh there this.
We didn't even talk about what happened in the NFL.
And I know I'm not supposed to step from supposed

(01:01:56):
to like somebody else's, but like they're allowed. Look of
my last one about there was a big thing where
a player hit um another quarterback with his own helmet,
took his helmet off. Yeah, smash him on the right
Miles Garrett and uh the quarterback, very much smaller white dude.
It just has so much anger in his face. And

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I was like, it looks like when they cast a
fictional superhero as a black person, and this is how
Twitter looks. It's just very angry uniform cosplay person mad
at a much bigger black person for being a fictional character.
I love it. I also thought he got off easy
because he was trying to tear Myles. He was did

(01:02:39):
you see That's how it started. Look, Myles Garrett should
be suspended for the year. But the weapon, the helmet,
it was ugly. He took his, he tried, he was
too weak to take Miles's helmet off, and he did
and he kicked him in the groin. And he took
Mason's helmet off. And he's standing there getting pushed back,
but Mason still like coming at somebody, take my shield

(01:03:02):
and I run at them. They probably gonna use the
shield on me. But that's all I'm saying. It's not right.
They both should be some some some he got he
got Scott free. Yep, Miles, where can people find? You?
Find me? On Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray
and even more importantly, on my new podcast with Sophia
Alexandra called four D Fiance Podcasts mixed up with a

(01:03:26):
little bit about for twenty You know what I mean?
Uh yeah, we talk about our favorite show. It's a
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that will be premiering this Wednesday of November, So subscribe rate.
You know, we're trying to be the number one day
fiance podcasts out there. I know it's a very specific goal,
but when you're specific, it makes goals achievable. Now, some

(01:03:49):
tweets I like, actually, just one, it's from Julia Prescott
at Julia Prescott, I have one talent and one talent only,
and that is finding out if you're divorced in three
instagram ms are less. That's incredible. Uh, let's see some
tweets I've been enjoying. Dana Donnelly tweeted, I'm allowed to

(01:04:11):
text at red lights, but the person in the car
behind me is not, as it is their job to
haunk at me when it was time to go h
Alexandria Ocazio Cortes. Uh yeah. Dave Reuben tweeted, Hi, AOC,
not sure who you bought my email from but I
assure you I didn't sign up for your mailing list. Also,

(01:04:33):
you offer no way to unsubscribe. Please release me. And
then I did a screen cap to email he received, Occazio,
Cortes and Sanders announced green new deal for a public
housing act. AOC responded, this is the official congressional press list,
not a supporter mailing list. Our apologies as someone must
have mistaken you for a journalist. That'll be fixed right away. Um.

(01:04:58):
And then afterwards he was you didn't own me. Basically,
it was the energy of his next tweet was something like, oh,
that's probably like the best Honestly, that's probably the best
thing you've ever done. So like, well whatever, Like I
know I was on, but like I'm not letting you
do whatever you can. I'll settle the debate for me
real quick before we go. Um, this was a long thing.
I was having a back and forth on between Batman

(01:05:20):
the animated series and the X Men animated series. If
you had to have one of the other, which would
you go with long term? If we're going to longevity Batman,
I think you get a lot of mileage out of
But I love the X Men. I just love I
like the X Men as a concept as a franchise better.
But I watched the funk out of Batman the Animated series,

(01:05:41):
and it's tough. Man. I love the theme music and
X Man, but Danny Elfman did Batman. Yeah, no, I
know that's why. I like. That's what I'm saying, Like long,
when I think about it, like if I was watching it,
there are moments where Batman the Animated series, like even
as a kid, I was like, this ship is actually
like good, this is like can find me? Yeah? Verse
to me, I'm like, yeah, Jenosha looks fucked up. I

(01:06:04):
feel like Batman the Animated Series was the first time
people were like, yeah, this is now, this is actually
like art right, this is not just like a cartoon
that us watching. Um, you're saying that with like a pipe.
So Batman and Batman, Yeah, Batan Batman. If we're just
going a direct comparison of the series side by side,
I will say that, Yeah, I'll say Batman, but I

(01:06:25):
think is an X Men on the New Disney Plus,
so I'll come back. And then I think Batman was
coming out on HBO Max or something, so I'll have
I'll be able to come back with the fully real
people are really feeling Disney Plus. Miles, I'm not joking.
I watched the Mandalorian. I'm working with it, like I'm
not mad at the Mandalorian. I don't know if this
is a viral marketing campaign, but both Miles and DJ

(01:06:47):
Daniel are coming in just talking about Disney Plus, like
just speaking straight up super previous. Damn. But Netflix is
getting Nickelodeon, Like, you can't do that on television, but
everybody so you can't do that on television? Is is
kind of one. But also the imagineering documentary that's on.

(01:07:14):
Roy Disney is a complicated figure. But to see like
his like I didn't realize how I'm sure all the
Disney heads know that it was a real gamble to
even build Disneyland, like the way he did it, in
the amount of money that was spent on it, and
to know like that clearly just completely changed the course
of history. Is is very interesting. And then all the
people whose hands run and like the you know, the imagination.

(01:07:36):
Another conversation that I want to start real quick as
we end the episode. This is why Peo about to
stick around? Hardly know her tweeted, what was the weirdest
movie you're ever shown in class. I'm talking about movies
that have basically nothing to do with the curriculum. For me,
it was my middle school health teacher didn't want to
teach us about sex, so we watched a New Hope instead.
Uh and Jenny Jenny tweeted my ap stats teacher made

(01:07:59):
us watch cool Hand Luke. Uh. Did you guys have
any that just like had no educational value? You know,
I showed I taught U. I was a sub out
of high school in Chicago, and I taught like computer literacy,
and I just showed them City of God because yeah film, Yeah,
and it was dealing with a lot of that ship.

(01:08:20):
I'm like this, y'all about to get some some real
ship right now? Ye man, damn that great gangster. Yeah.
I don't know what compared how it relates to computer literacy,
but some of computers didn't work. But you know, you
will now be literate and talking to white film nerds.

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When I went to Catholic high school for a year,
there was a old priest who part of his curriculum
every semester was to show Braveheart m But it wasn't
a history class. Yeah, it had nothing to I think
it was math. To be honest, I had a teacher
show us a Man for All Seasons from nineteen sixties six. Yeah,

(01:09:06):
is there Jimmy Stewart, John Wayne, isn't it? It's Robert
Shaw and Paul Schofield. It's about a British statesman who
refuses to pressure the pope into a knowing the marriage
of King Henry. This. Yeah, I watched that history. This
was not in history. This is some class that was
like half you know this teacher, Mr Falls, he was

(01:09:27):
so old. I used to people smoked weed, and yes,
people smoked weed in the classroom and he didn't know it.
Fucking not vaping, hitting straight flower, fucking snow jacket again. Yeah,
like we could. I would literally stand up take ship

(01:09:47):
off his desk because he was so like out of
it and people do yo. He took the whole key
for the test and I'm like, I got the answers right. Um.
Also shout out to my other teacher who was like
a morality teacher. One day, she just didn't want to
do anything and I knew her vibes. She was kind
of lazy. And I had the screener for Lord of
the Rings the first one, and I was like, I

(01:10:08):
got the I got the new Lord of the Rings movie.
We could put that on. And she goes, oh, yeah,
I want to see that. Put that ship and we
watched that ship for like three classes. That sounds good. Yeah,
shout out to her, Mrs Roles. She used to let
me use her a motorized chair. I'm sure she's gone.
And I said, fucking smash that ship up in the room,
thank you so much. All right. Uh, she was allegedd.

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She was really kind and she looked she knew it
was fun for me. She wasn't all like, you know,
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ride out on Miles What's that Gonna be? Um? You know,
for all the old heads out there. DJ Shadow has

(01:11:35):
a new album called Our Pathetic Age UM, and in
it there's some really great collapse features on there. This
one specifically is called Kings and Queens And if teachers
run the Jewels, so DJ Shadow and run the Jewels
called Kings and Queen. Why how old is it? Sorry?
I mean when you think about like, how like introducing

(01:11:56):
came out? I think in their pathetic age Damn, when
I'm like out your apathetic age ninety six was introducing
came out? Like that? Was really when you know, like
your kids who had older brothers who smoke weed and
we're a college around the time. Oh yeah, shadow yeah,
I love it. Alright, guys, well we're gonna ride out

(01:12:18):
on that. We'll be back this afternoon with more podcast
and we'll talk to you then by grease the wall,
greening to wall, greeding stall here from the edge of

(01:12:39):
the wall up and the let's walk fall might be
the way to make sense of at all. Certainly work
for the dog. I'm talking part of my Mama's my
Mama grand my mama jumps life brusting instead then like
I gotta guests, like starting at death even less, everyone
was a badly day mess only inside of the runs
no breath or me up, I get it wrong. We
never met. This is only a song I heard at

(01:13:00):
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