June 17, 2022 • 60 mins
In episode 1271, Jack and guest co-host Jacquis Neal are joined by comedian, producer, and co-host of I'm Sorry, Mohanad Elshieky, to discuss… NASA Is Joining The Hunt for UFOs … Kind Of, Hollywood Blames Hollywood For Gun Violence and more!
- NASA Is Joining The Hunt for UFOs … Kind Of
- Hollywood Blames Hollywood For Gun Violence
- 6 Handguns, 2 ‘Assault Weapons,’ 2 Submachine Guns, Shotgun, Grenade Used in HBO’s ‘True Detective;’ Produced by, Starring Matthew McConaughey
- Hollywood and Gun Violence
- Gun violence deaths: how the U.S. compares with the rest of the world
- How Hollywood Made the Gunmakers’ Day
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to forty one,
Episode five of Dirt Dailies Like Guys Stay, production of
I Heart Radio. This is a podcast where we take
a deep dive into American share constitionness. And it's Friday, June,
which of course means that it is Global Garbage Man Day.
(00:21):
I'm being told that's Global garbage Man Day the profession,
not just like garbage men and National Eat your Vegetables Day,
which don't tell me what to do. You know, I
have a successful podcast. You're a made up holiday I've
never heard of. Why don't you worry about yourself? National
Eat your Ventuable's everybody each Yeah that I I will
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allow it from my esteemed special guest co host, but
but not from some made up, bullshit holiday. I will
not have it. I will not countenance it. I've always
wanted to say that it's always the last weekday before
June tenth, so happy Juneteenth. We are taking Monday off,
so we'll see you guys on Tuesday. That's right, black people,
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you got the day off, so does everybody else. But
do something special for it. Go punch a white person.
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Violence is not I'm sorry, you can continue. My name
is Jack O'Brien aka. Do I need to work? Okay?
(01:26):
Guess well? I need food also need to work, Okay,
to sleep below a roof. So pay me, employ me,
pay me, employ me. But I'm not working for more
than four days a week. That is courtesy and no clue,
(01:47):
you know on that four days, four day work week ship,
which we advocate for on this show. I advocate for
it even even more after we had a recent episode
where someone pointed out that, like, one of the reasons
there's not revolutionary energy in America is because we're all
working constantly. We don't have we don't know in the
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second that America stopped working constantly because of the pandemic.
We looked around and we're like, whoa fuck the cops,
what what is happening here? This is terrible? So yeah,
just uh four days a week, let's let's let's do it. Also,
most of our jobs are bullshit reading David Graber's bullshit jobs. Alright, well,
(02:31):
I'll tell you about a couple of guys whose work
isn't bullshit. First of all, I'm thrilled to be joined
by a very special guest co host and award winning
podcast host or writer, producer, actor, voice artists, one of
my favorite singers. It's the brilliant in town to Jakisnia.
Oh Gang, I'm hot just like Oven. You can't tell
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me nothing and baby me my eight k a's all
getting stronger and you getting longer. So when I get
that feeling a neat jock, he's healing jockeys healing baby.
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Oh what up? Knee grows? How you doing? Everybody? We
are back? We are here after start taking layers off.
Holy ship. I know you're sweating, man, I see it,
I see it. How is everybody? How are you? Joe good?
I'm good. I'm thrilled to heppy back, thrilled to be
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back as always. I love it. I love the fam,
love the sight Gang. We gotta we gotta dopas guests.
We gotta get to that. Yeah, we do have a
dopas guests. We're thrilled to be joining our third seat
by a hilarious stand up comedian hosted the podcast I'm
Sorry from limon Nata, digital producer for Full Frontal with
Smith and b and just very funny. Just google his name.
(04:03):
And watch his stand up. He is fucking hilarious. It's
mohanned el Chiki. Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello, how's it? What's up?
What's up? Man? How are you today? I am. I'm
doing great, having a great time. I love it, love
being love being a life. You know, every day it's
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a beautiful thing. You know, it's a beautiful thing to
be alive. You know, Um, I don't know. I don't
know the alternative, but I'm gonna assume that it is
a beautiful thing to be alive. I just love that
you said that you don't know the alternative. I just
feel like it's there's one. There is only one alternative.
But I haven't experienced yet, so you know, yeah, you
know that's what I mean. I it may be a
(04:44):
beautiful thing to be dead too, but I can't. I
heard no reviews, So I've heard no reviews. I heard
no reviews. Yeah. Yeah, that is a weird thing that
we just kind of buried. But like my I have
a four year old and a six year old, and
it's all they asked me ab out. They're just like, so, like,
what does your dad believe? What does like mommy's dad believe?
(05:06):
What does everybody like that. Does anybody believe that we
just come back like that? All they wanted to talk
about is the afterlife. I'm like, you guys are freaking
me the fuck out. Stop it some spooky asks, jack,
but it but it makes sense to me, Like that
is the like if you know, if my brain hadn't
been if I hadn't done the work of blocking that
(05:28):
out with just you know, TV and alcohol for many years,
I probably that's all I would think about as well. So, mohanad,
where are you coming to us from? I'm in New
York City right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's been around. Yeah,
broke around for a little while. Yeah. Uh. If I
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was to ask you, you know, because I maybe coming
to New York and a couple of months. And I've
been to New York a lot, but I always like
to get get the locals recommendations. What's what's your favorite
what's your favorite food spot? What's your favorite food spot
in Brooklyn that you would you would take a brother too?
You know what. There's a place called home Fright that
I keep ordering from. Uh huh. It's a burger place
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and I think it's the best I've ever had. There's
also Yemen Cafe, which I highly recommend. I've been to
that place maybe twenty times so far. Yeah, I mean,
I'm there, main source of forevenue. I'd say, I love it.
I love it, and we'll give him some coin. I'm
gonna give him some coin then when I get there.
Super producer Becca, who is a gang knows from training episodes,
(06:35):
just found out about that. She's gonna try it out.
She's also in Brooklyn. So how long you been in Brooklyn?
Because because I know you, you were in Portland at
one point, Is that right? Yeah? Yeah, I was. I
was in Portland and then I moved to New York
in October, of which, if you ask me, perfect timing
to move to New Yil City really really nailed it. Yeah.
(06:58):
I had good five months of being outside. It's all
I needed. Really. All Right, Well, we're going to get
to know you a little bit better in a moment. First,
we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of the things
that we're talking about. We're gonna talk about another one
of the one of those things that I would only
talk and think about if I if I was just
allowed myself to be like just all let myself go
(07:22):
and just thought and talked about the things that I'm
curious about and want to know about, which is UFOs.
It's kind of a big question, are we alone are
what what the funk is all that stuff that we
keep seeing that the that the top Gun people keep
seeing because all all those videos are from naval aviators,
so it's they left that out of Top Gun to
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all the UFO sightings. But we're gonna talk about because
NASA is joining the hunt for UFOs in a way
that like in theory promising to have somebody officially like
bringing back information on this subject that isn't part of
the military industrial complex. But on the other hand, they
have given it the whopping budget of a hundred thousand dollars.
(08:09):
That's that's when you when you look at like what
government budgets are, like, I think that might be the
lowest budget I've ever heard of for anything. That's like saying, bro,
they give black people more than that. So we're gonna
talk about that. We're gonna talk about Hollywood coming out
(08:30):
with a strong blame Hollywood stance on gun violence, which
just misguided. But I don't know, I think there's a
way they can correct themselves here. So what we'll talk
about that all of that plenty more. But before we
get to any of it, mohammedd we like to ask
our guests, what is something from your search history? Oh h,
(08:55):
I literally I looked at up right now on my
Google and mostly the western I have are related to cats. Well, yeah,
one of them is just like, can cat drink cow milk?
And then do my cat? How do I know that
my cats love me? It's truly so setting that I'm
looking at it now that I'm just looking at my
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cats and just trying to read their minds and make
sure that they continue to be alive. And other than that,
the third search the thing I have is my own name.
There you go. Yeah, I don't know what that says
about me? No, no, no, it says you're normal, man,
it says that's what we all do. I sart. I
google my name every about a couple every couple of
weeks probably, I don't know. You just gotta see what
(09:38):
you have to see what the what the streets are
talking about. I get that, true, true, yeah, it's it's
it's usually nothing. But I'm just like I just keep
I keep going at it. I mean, maybe I'll find something.
Maybe maybe you'll find out something. You're on page seven
of the Google results, like progress making progress, Have you
(10:02):
ever Googled your name? And then so like unless you
have like a straight out Wikipedia, but like generally, like
people within the industry who don't have wikipedias have some
type of like WICKI something like depending on where you
are or what you do. And some of them are legit,
you know, depending on what it's from. But then there
will be some of them where they're clearly written from
(10:25):
people from another country, uh, just riddled, and then the
most inaccurate fucking information. But those are like some of
my favorite ones because it'll say I had one. It
was like Jacky's Neil is an amazing stature. Uh. I
was like, thank you, I'm thank you. I'm only five mate,
(10:45):
but I will take amazing stature. Uh. And then it
was like algorithmically generated. Yeah, it's crazy. And then it
was like, oh, when I was with my girl before,
and it was like and he has a partner who
he seems to love. It doesn't talk too much about
Oh my god, I do want to say mohaned like
(11:07):
I was. I wasn't implying by the way that you
were only on the seventh page of Google search results.
I meant to say that, like in your quest, you're
you're like digging deep and you're now on the seventh page.
Like what are they saying about me on this obscure
reddit threat? But you do have a Wikipedia, which is
you know that that's a big deal. It's a big flex. No,
(11:28):
Like I do have a Wikipedia, but I also find
myself on those sites and it says that my net
worth is five million dollars. You want to know where
that money is. I could just tell that your net
worth is five million dollars based on your stature, and
just like you, I know, I know. Man. So whoever
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whoever got Mohanned's you know, you know, five million, give
it to him he wanted, you know, want even even
half of it. I'll take half, you can take the
other half. Please. What is something that you think is overrated?
Cooking for yourself? Because a lot of people tell me
that it's it's great for me and it's also a
(12:11):
great way to save money and to be healthy, and
I keep hearing about it, and because I talked to
one person about it, Instagram will not stop showing me
like you know, like metal prep stuff and and whatnot,
and and I tried it, and I'll tell you this,
I don't like cooking. And after doing it for two
weeks just trying to cook for myself and whatnot and
(12:31):
being told that this will make me feel good, now
I hate cooking so much. Like with passion, this ship sucks.
It's not fun, Like stop lying to people like you
can just buy stuff outside of good food delivered and
it cost me the same amount. Because I don't know
how to cook it. I just keep sucking up and
then I just have to recook it again or I
(12:51):
cooked too much and then I just don't know how
to save it. Anyway, it's a mess. It doesn't make
me feel good. And I cook for like forty five
minutes and it didn't takes me takes me what ten
minutes to eat it or less? Ye fair, that's the
that's the thing that makes me upset with cooking is
you'll you'll like, sit down, you'll make a meal. You'll
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do all the prep. First of all, the prep and
cook time never correlates when the actual time it takes
you to prep. It would be like ten minutes to prep,
and I'll look up and it'll be thirty five minutes later.
And you do all this cooking, all this preparing, and
then you sit down and you get a plate of
food to eat. I like to eat and wash TV.
And then like, I'll sit down with the hour show
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and I'm done in like five minutes, and I'm just like,
all right, well two hours to make this for five
minutes and I still got fifty minutes of the show left.
I feel like I feel like someone needs to create
like a i Q test, or like something that involves timing,
that involves like something that can tell us if we're
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good or not a cooking because there there are people
like my wife is doesn't cook a lot, but when
she does her the prep time says ten minutes. She
does it in like ten minutes, and when I do it,
it is three hours. My brain does not work that way.
I've tried. I've been trying to cook for you know, decades.
Now I suck at it. It is stressful. It falls apart.
(14:19):
I had like some people over to my house from
from the t DZ team, and I like cooked chicken
for them on the grill, and it was the most
stressful experience of my life because I like, yeah, I
I fucking hated it. It was bad. They were like
parts that were pink. I I just I blew it.
(14:39):
Bro you're giving people salmonilla, yeah exactly. And I'm like
they were like, dude, chill out. But I was like
just hovering over them, like sweating beads, just being like
try it, just try to try. Okay, okay, no, and
then like pulling it out of their hands and putting
it back on the grill. I'm not good at that.
Not good. It's not done that. That's like, gracious host,
(15:01):
Get you a host that won't let you eat raw chicken.
That's what I always say. Mahan, all right, Mahan. And
I know you. I know you don't like cooking, but
everybody has the thing that they can cook and that
they like to cook and that tastes somewhat good, even
if it's like a damn grilled cheese sandwich. Do you
have that at the very least? Do you have something? Yeah, alright,
(15:24):
I know it's a good pasta. I'm just like I'll
make a pasta and it was good. Yeah, and and
and that's that's as far as it can go. Do
you do you have a secret tier pasta. It's just
something that my mom used to make a lot, and
he sent me the recipe, and like I did it
so many times that I know how. Like it's it's
one of those things where like I know how to
(15:46):
do it. I don't have to look at something at
the thing in order to remind me. Yeah, So that's
that part is good. But other than that, I'm like
absolutely not. Like I have a couple of things I'm
good at, and it's all because they're very basic, and
I know, like one trick that makes them good. Like
scrambled eggs. I add more water than most people would
(16:06):
expect to more to scrambled eggs. Yeah, I had, Well
if you don't add water at all, Yeah, scrambled eggs
with water in it. Like I have this Korean like
egg Souflay thing that was where they do like fifty
percent water fifty percent eggs and then the eggs just
come out like it's it's not even let like they're
(16:27):
halfway between a liquid and a solid. But they're so
good and so soft, and like you can you can't
really overcook them when you have water enough water in them.
So that's why I've been leaning on that you forgot
the words who play Becca just type. I was about
to say I me too, But when you add a
souflay in there, I was like, Okay, that makes that
makes sense, that makes sense. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah Korean.
(16:50):
This obscure Korean dish. It's called a sou flay. I
don't think anyone's ever heard of it. But I went to, yeah,
that's how bad I am at cooking. I didn't even
know there was. That's what a flay was. What is
something that you think is underrated? Mohammed, something is underrated?
That's a that's a hard one, man. I just I
just feel like I'm in the because of social media.
(17:11):
I look at everything as overrated. That yeah that I have.
I think my my brain is poisoned right now that
I do not enjoy the small things in life. But
I say something underrated, like it's not really special, it's
very basic. But lately I literally have been doing absolutely
nothing and just laying on my couch and playing FIFA,
(17:34):
and that that feeling of happiness that gives me absolutely amazing.
Everyone was like, oh, just goes to the park in
New York is the summertime. It's no, it's not. No,
it's not. Absolutely everyone is doing it and I get
sweaty in my apartment. I don't get sweaty. I just
(17:54):
I just played this one game and get really good
at and no one gives a funk that I'm good
at it except the love that I'm sure amazing. Yeah,
you know, you got some room. I'm seeing some sun
in that room, so you get some light. Yeah, yeah,
it's great. Yeah everyone should you know, everyone trying to
(18:15):
make plans and go outside. You doing this summer? Like,
just stay at home. It's perfect. Yeah, you're not gonna
pay a pressure of me into enjoy the company for others.
I agree with you, man, I agree with you because listen,
I for the longest time, for most of my adult
life from thirty five now, most of my adult life,
I would have guilt like staying in the bad past,
(18:39):
like nine am, you know, like even if I wanted to,
I would be laying in bed and be like I
gotta get up. I gotta get up, and you know,
and then you know, in our professions sometimes we do
I have to be on set sometimes I like six
am or you know, so like if I have I
have to get up. But if I don't have a job,
I would still have that guilt. Lately, over the past
like two months to three months, I've been letting that
(19:02):
guilt go and saying, if I'm still fucking sleepy and
I don't have to be nowhere and there's eight thirty nine,
I will stay my as in bed until I feel
like I am not exhausted or tired anymore. And it's
such an underrated thing to let go of just relaxing
we've had. Yeah, the I think that's because of the pandemic, man, like,
(19:26):
because it was like at the time of the lockdown,
like you're just like, man, a lot of the suffer
that I thought matters that much, it does not really
so well, that's the you know, I guess it's silver lining,
but yeah, somewhat, Yeah, no, man, taking care of yourself
and video video games are underrated, and I know you
know that just sets some people off. I know some
(19:50):
people are like, what you mean underrated? Video games are
one of the most highly rated things of all time. Yeah,
to you, But there are some people. There's some people
who big video games are a waste of time. And
to those people, I say to them, it's an underrated
thing to sit down because you'll be thinking that you
you have to strategize. You feel happy when you win.
(20:12):
You get some anger, you're not directing it at anybody,
you know what I'm saying. It teaches you not to
throw your controllers across the room, so you learn anger management.
It's a lot of ship that video games can do
for you. It gives you a thick skin, especially when
a ten year old yells at you when you play online.
You know, you're like, wow, might have a six skin now,
(20:33):
because these kids are assholes. That's Jack. That's Jack Jack
be yelling at people online. I usually claim that I
stopped playing video games that when I was you know,
I gave up at stage of and sixty four. But
I'm really I just really went underground and now pretend
to be a ten year old who's really mean to people.
(20:54):
But you're you're exactly right, Like the I am definitely
one of those people who has that voice in my head,
the like video as a were waste of time, Like
don't you know? That's why I quit playing video games,
and it's I don't know now now my kids are
like if they grow up, if we continue to be
a household without video games like that. That's weird, right,
(21:14):
that's like the being the family without a TV in
your household. Now like that's yeah, get him a switch,
get him a switch, you will start playing. Yeah, I
hear good things. Miles and I had a thing yesterday
where we got to see each other in person, which
was lovely and both ubered over give give ourselves a
(21:35):
little break. And he pulled up with a switch with
him to to a work thing, which was I loved it. Yeah,
all right, let's take a quick break. We'll come back,
we'll talk to UFOs, we'll talk about maybe why Joe
Biden shouldn't run for president again, all that plenty more,
be right back and we're back. And one of the
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early episodes, one of my favorite early episodes of this
show was one where where the guest was one Mr
Jakise Neil and we talked about UFOs and I was like,
this is a dumb thing, but it's a slow newsday
and my brain cannot take any more conversations about Donald Trump,
and people seemed to respond well to it. So it
(22:29):
was I think an important episode that taught us just
how dumb we could be on this show. And so
you know, anytime Jakis is back on, I like to
just do a quick search for what's going on in
the world of UFOs for old time's sake. And apparently
NASA has joined the fight. They announced that they're going
(22:51):
to launch an independent committee to investigate, like what's going
on with all these U A p S. The Pentagon
has spent the past couple of years being like, Okay, yeah,
we acknowledge you guys aren't crazy, We just don't know
what it is. We don't like to not know what
things are, so we're gonna we're gonna do an investigation.
(23:15):
And they announced their findings and they were pretty underwhelming.
It was a nine page report and it was very
short on specifics, did not draw any definitive conclusions. Like
they did say, Okay, some of these we can explain
away weather balloons, like just like seeing weird things at
(23:36):
a weird angle from a weird distance, looks like you know,
U A P or UFO. But they also were they
were like, there there are dozens of these that we
have absolutely no explanation for. And they also added at
the end there there was no evidence that they came
from extraterrestrial sources, which was like yeah, I don't. We
(23:59):
we kind of had a sense that you weren't going
to bury the fact that you had evidence of extraterrestrial life,
like in the sixth paragraph of this report. But throwing
throwing in that last sentence is so perfect and just
glib and fulish. I I don't ever mistake myself for
(24:19):
someone of high intelligence, Like I'm not stupid, I'm I'm educated,
I got a degree, I read. But I am flummixed
at the fact that NASA is just get like, who
the fuck else was into UFOs before the Space Administration, Like, like,
(24:43):
doesn't it seem like they would be the ones who
were always like in the fight. I don't know what
other government entity was handling I mean, well, I guess
the answer was no, none of them were, but nobody
was because there was this massive stigma around it. And interesting, Yeah,
(25:04):
it's but that that's a really good point, like that,
That's what this really lays bare for me, is like
how much mistakema around it there is? Right, NASA meanwhile,
has been like you know, focused on proving that like
there might have been ice on Mars once and like
ice means there could have been life, and just ignoring
(25:24):
the ship out of like all these like UFO like
findings and like official like videos that nobody can explain,
And yeah, I don't know that. That's the thing that
like this report, I was like, Wow, they're so scared
of taking this seriously, like in the in this report,
(25:45):
it's a Washington Post story. But in in the report,
NASA Administrator Bill Nelson said he had seen the classified
ui P report when he was serving the Senate and
the hair stood up on the back of my neck,
so that that's signific Again. At the same time, they
also said the study, to begin in the fall, will
last about nine months and cost no more than one
(26:07):
hundred thousand dollars, which, uh I could have gave them
that that's that's ridiculous. I love that that's how much
they are getting. A hundred K. That is so embarrassing,
to be honest, it is. It's just like like, what
(26:27):
do you deal with a hundred K? I like, I'm
just like the just there's a bunch of iPhones just
like pointed to the sky. Just picture, Yes, with a
hundred K, you buy five hundred iPhones and like five
hundred tripods and just like station them in areas where
nobody can see them. And that's your hundred k right there.
(26:49):
And then what you give is what you get, you know,
that's what you get. That's so funny. All right, my hunted,
let's cute. Let's cute the conspiracy music. Go ahead, throw
that music there. What do you believe? What do you believe?
Do you? Yeah? I do think there are aliens, and
but I do believe that they do not want to
(27:13):
hang out with us. They just don't want anything to
do with us. I think it's so embarrassing how long
we've been just like, you know, sending the messages, just
like they literally just like ghosting us at this point,
and they're like this, like you guys are just like
you guys just sucked, just like like we see what
you're doing. We're not into it. We're just gonna live
(27:33):
here in peace. It's fun here. Everything that you're going
through now, we have figured this out a thousand years ago,
and we have no interest in helping you here, so
we need to stop. I guess what do we think
their motivation is? Assuming that they're like some of these
U a p S are life from another planet and
(27:54):
they are here and they're just looking at us like
zoo animals and you know, something like going going diving
through the ocean because like the animals down there are
really cool. I'm assuming that's like part of the thing.
We always see them around the ocean. During the Cold War,
they were they seemed very interested in nuclear weapons because
I think they were like, we don't want these dip
(28:16):
ships to you know, kill themselves. We want to I
feel like they're rooting for us, but yeah, they're just
like they're like that they can't handle this ship right now.
I think they're they're they're rooting for the show to continue.
I feel like we're in some kind of like the
whole earth is stuck in in in like some kind
of the Truman Show scenario was that I've watching us
(28:39):
do it like every move and stuff like that, and yeah,
they're saving us because they're just like, yeah, we literally
stopped looking for a bit and we lost dinosaurs. So
you can't let these guys do whatever they want. So
this is this is my theory. Yeah, I love that.
I love that. I mean, like I do think we
are an incredibly unadvanced species, which is why you know,
(29:03):
like people forget we are as the human race a
very young species. Uh we are just started a couple
of thousand years ago. Yeah, we're We're so young and
stupid and dumb and don't know ship And that is
so true. We've been looking for all these us, all
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these aliens and all these things like that, and I've
never really contemplated the fact that maybe they just don't
want to be found because they like, oh the humans,
ugly man, I don't like these m I'm gonna go
ahead over here and uh talk to you know, talk
to these other advanced worlds and universes and stuff like that.
(29:48):
It's pretty funny. That's my other theory is that like
I think the military industrial complex like you know, not
the most trust forth. It's kind of wild, like it, Yeah,
to your point, you keeps the like NASA has not
been involved in this to this point is like crazy.
It's like, oh, wait, I guess that kind of like
the part of my brain was assuming that's who who
(30:09):
was on this ship up to this point. Um. But
also that like the least trustworthy, like biggest grifter in
maybe like the history of the modern world, the US
military industrial complex it is who we have on the
job is like not great, They're not always the most trustworthy,
not always great at being transparent, but I think they
(30:34):
like it's interesting that they have hidden anything they found
that is indicative of like life on another planet or
extra trust real life. And I think it's because like
the the fact that there are extraterrestrials and they aren't
killing us means that that would that must be like
a very like primitive idea, and like that's what their
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whole business is built on, is the idea that like, well,
you know, once you see somebody else, they're going to
kill you, because like it's either kill or be killed,
and like that's why we need to spend all the
money on having big bombs to shoot the people in
kids they shoot big bombs at us and like to
have a more advanced civilization, just like back there being
(31:19):
like all right, yeah, I mean we're we're rooting for you.
I think that's the big conspiracy. I don't know, but
I used to want. I I mean, I still want
to know if they're I mean, I know I believe it,
and I know if there's life elsewhere and aliens and
blah blah blah blah blah. I used to really want
(31:39):
to experience it, like some shipped to like really go
down here on earth see it? You know what I'm saying,
because like, even though I think they're advanced, I do
think like we could probably give a few of these
aliens hands, right, we can, we can independence damn or
a little bit, right, we can will sment them. But
I don't. But I used to also feel like it
would be the only sing the only thing that would
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unite the human race together. And I stopped believing in
it at March two thousand twenty when this pandemic showed
me that there is nothing that we won't fight about
in this country. So now I don't want no ship
to go down because if it does like we fucked,
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because we ain't, we're gonna be We're gonna be divided ourselves.
While they up here looking like I know, I know
the fact that they haven't killed us and are still
hanging out like watching gives me some hope that like
there's a further level of evolution that they're like you guys,
like aren't aren't hopeless, you know, or maybe they're just
(32:45):
like waiting for us to kill ourselves so they can
move in to the Arizona or wherever. Then the I'm
just one. The concept of killing is not something to them.
They don't understand what that means. I feel like they're
gonna come here and the first thing that especially Americans
here will do be like, let's give them guns and
see what happens. Yeah. Yeah, they will try to taste
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blood and be like, you know what, we fucking love this.
We're gonna kill each and every one of these people.
There's pretty strong evidence that there were unidentified flying objects
over d C and in the skies over l A,
like during World War Two, and we said we like
scrambled fighting planes and like shot at them, and they're
(33:30):
just like all right, man, Like it just flew away.
They were like, Okay, that's what you want to do.
If we do, if we do find aliens, you know
what's really gonna happen is we're gonna jesufy them. You know,
we're gonna we're gonna be like, oh aliens, that's an
American alien right there. Uh, that's a white hair that's
a blue eyed, blonde haired alien. Right. I think they're
(33:52):
absolutely right that we're not ready for whatever they're hiding
from us. I'm not ready, man. They were funk us
up I also think that like that the c I
A like half of the sightings that I've seen that
are I'm like, they can't be explained, are probably like
things the CIA put out there to obscure the truth,
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because that does seem to be how the CIA operates,
as they'll put like plausible fake information out so that
when you have a theory, like they can debunk like
some of the things that you point to. So I
do think there's like a lot of like you know,
security military industrial complex like bullshit that goes into this.
(34:34):
So I'm hoping NASA can help with the thirty five
dollars that they have put put towards this small project. Yeah,
and that's if you're listening. Just post your Venmo on Twitter. Yeah,
get a kick star to go on. We can get
y'all more than a hundred thousand, Like just just in
(34:54):
l A alone, we can get y'all more than a
hundred really, but like that really the takeaway is that
you're in initial point of keys. They're like NASA hasn't
been on this. NASA like is trying to find anyway
they can to get people interested in NASA again, and
like they've been doing that they've been spending billions of
dollars on these like missions to mars. I don't know, man,
(35:15):
Like you want, yeah, you want to want a generation
of kids to be like interested again like they were
in the sixties and seventies. Maybe like go with the
stuff that makes the hair stand up on the back
of your neck, Like I feel like that's that's a
good one. Maybe devote more than a hundred thousand dollars
to it. I got I got one more thing to
say about just UFOs and all this ship. I do
(35:38):
believe it. I do believe we've seen stuff. But before
the Trump presidency, I used to believe there was more
of it. And like once you got to that level,
you know, like classifying information, they kept it. Ain't no
fucking way Donald J. Trump would have kept it to
himself if he would have found out once he at
(36:00):
the presidency, aliens were real and area if it the
one got up. Man. So maybe we haven't found as
much as I used to think, because due unless something slip,
he would even just alluded to it. There's a famous
Clinton Bill Clinton speech because he when he came into office,
he immediately started he was like, all right, I want
to find out like what there is, like put put
(36:21):
together a fact finding mission. And he was like, and
I found out that, like there are some things they
don't tell the president, Like they won't tell like I
hit a wall as president where I like there's something
there and they weren't telling me. I'm like, Clinton has
like come out and just said that. So, yeah, I
don't real Illuminati ship, it's real and Bill Clinton is
(36:44):
not invited. You're like, you'll bring weird vibes. Man, you're
creeping everybody out at this Liminati sex party. Yeah, maybe
put put on the weight, put the way back on, man,
you look like the crypt keeper. Yeah. Yeah, all right,
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let's take a quick break. We'll come back, and we're back.
And so there's a bunch of big Hollywood A listers
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signed an open letter urging Hollywood to reconsider how guns
are used on screen. So presumably the letter is to themselves.
I guess it's like a lot of like very powerful
Pia Shonda, RAN's, j J Abrahams, Julian Moore, Amy Schumer.
You know people who could, if they were to really
(37:49):
like make this a full time mission, throw their weight around. Unfortunately,
the way the just the ideas in the letter are
kind of reinforce a right wing talking point which deflects
attention away from gun control towards like, well, there's too
much violence in this dang holly weird culture that they're
(38:11):
put in front of our kids. When Matthew McConaughey gave
that speech about you know you've all day, which is
his hometown, like bright, Bart put up an article with
the headline six handguns to assault weapons to submachine guns
shotgun grenade used in HBO's True Detective produced by starring
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Matthew McConaughey got him. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean wonder
woman or not, I mean, what's her name? Linda Carter
responded to that. It was like, yeah, I also flew
an invisible plane, and I still think we should follow,
(38:51):
you know, the laws of pilot tree. I don't know
which you see says something to that, and it's just
like yeah, yeah, bio dry and I'm just like, you know,
and here's the thing I do. You know, I do
think that when some people say ship like that, that
there are some people who just are missing that part
of their brain. But I do think most people who
(39:14):
say stuff like that, no, they bullshit, like you know
what the difference is, stop bullshit like, but you know
they gotta say it because they are playing to the
base that have the missing parts of their brains. So there,
that's the that's what they're playing to when they say
things that they just know flat out make no sense
(39:35):
or isn't and isn't logical logical arts. It doesn't make
any sense. Yeah, it doesn't. It doesn't make any sense
to be like, oh, but you've done this thing in
the past. Everyone does. Then you get you don't get
to complain about it. And it's just like, I mean,
guns have been around and in movies and shows and
stuff like that, and they're I mean, there's the show
(39:55):
Bary on HBO and he's an assassin. Yeah, yeah, I'm
sure he doesn't think that you should be going to
go around shooting people just because he does that on
the TV show. That's why it's fiction. I have decided
that this is my last episode of TDS and I'm
I'm going to be a trained assassin just based on
having watched the last episode last season of Barry. It
(40:18):
was like too too good argument, Like, first of all,
people have done studies and evidence indicates that like violent
crimes decreased in the wake of violent blockbuster movies, you know,
just common sense. Wise, I definitely think that I think
guns are cooler than I would have if I didn't
(40:39):
grow up like with die Hard and Rambo as my
favorite movies like when I was eight years old. But
like you know, Canada, which definitely by no means perfect
like consumes the exact same movies and TV shows at
the US plus Degrassi, but in twenty nineteen they had
eight times fewer gun related deaths proportionately. I mean, here's
(41:04):
the thing. We're at two points one, Like we were
talking about this earlier before we started recording, and I
I want sensible gun laws. I won't I'm sure you
look the guns off the street. I wouldn't give a ship.
But like you know, I'm I'm also not stupid enough
to think that that will ever happen. So like, at
(41:25):
the very least, I do think like we should get
you know, gun laws and gun control and all this ship.
But even me saying that, I'm not dumb enough to
think we should take it out of television and movies
because it doesn't do anything like where I I used
to be a tour guid in l A. And this
(41:46):
is to this point. I used to be a tour
guy in l A. And whenever I would have like
a tough day, like for whatever reason, my my tourists,
my guests were shitty, you know, the cops in the
streets were shifty, you know, locals and whatever, I would
come home. Not all the time, but sometimes I would
come home. I would fire up g T A five, which,
(42:08):
for those of you who don't know, was set in
Los Angeles, and I would make my way to Hollywood
and throw sekey bombs on tour buses and fuck people
up like and I would do that ship And in
no shape form of fashion have I ever had the
inkling to do any of that in real life ever,
(42:31):
Because I'm not a psychopath, And I know the difference
between the video game and being able to do that
there and let out that like steam or whatever, and
actually having the thirst to murder people like those are
two different things. Like it's insane, it's so insane. So
(42:51):
you know, Uly, you have just rendered yourself incapable of
talking about gun things because you did once someone in
a video game. Uh by the McConaughey clause you're not
allowed to talk about I can't. I can't. Well it's
been real everybody bless you know, somebody else has made
(43:13):
the point that, like maybe it's a good thing to target,
like because you, you guys are powerful people in this industry.
Is Hollywood like basically does product placement for gun companies
in movies and TV shows like The State, the same
way that like Stranger Things helped sales of egoes. And
(43:34):
you know that that movie The Wizard made me think
that the power Glove would fix my life. I don't
know if you remember that Fred Savage movie where like
he got the power Glove and it was just so
much better than the real thing. Yeah, gun companies like
Glock offer their products to prop houses for cheap or
free in exchange for the promotion. In two thousand ten,
(43:56):
Glock received a Lifetime Achievement Award from the website Brands
Channel for appearing in more than fift percent of that
year's box office topping films. Wow, so this is a
strategy that like you you your industry helps guns and
helps gun companies make money. So maybe make it so
(44:20):
that you're not using real guns. Maybe make it so
that you these gun companies don't have some input into
the scripting and how their weapons are used in in
your products. I'm all for I'm one percent all for
Hollywood saying we are no longer going to let gun
manufactors and you know, lobbies profit off of our industry anymore,
(44:46):
or you know, like you said, be able to have input.
I'm one percent for that. I think that should one
percent go away. That and no more guns and movies
are two different things though, so like, but it should
just be all old shitty looking guns that are like beautiful,
like flaccid, like the guns are like soft when they
(45:07):
pick them up. Yes, no more real looking guns on
erect guns from here on out. Smith and Wesson actually
hired an actual product placement firm to help them break
into the industry. Yeah so yeah, I mean maybe instead
of modifying the content, make sure that their projects aren't
(45:29):
lighting the pockets of real life gun manufacturers. I think
would be the Well, I'm interested, I'm interested to know
what you think. Mohammed Mohammed on why like what like
even if if liberal as Hollywood is saying the same tired, well,
maybe it is the media of this leading to more violence,
(45:50):
and if we take it away, then maybe there will
be less violence. The ones who are seemingly on the
side of gun control are still repeating these tired as.
I don't even know there's whatout talking talking points. Yeah,
you know, sometimes it just feels like there's no hope.
I don't know if you have a different take, if
you have a different take or a different optimism, And
(46:12):
it's fine if you don't, because I'm right there with
you if you don't, but yeah, if you have a
different take or different optimism on yeah, I just honestly,
I think it's just yeah, like I agree with you
like that saying that, you know, taking guns from movies
is going to solve anything. It doesn't make any sense,
uh the I mean, does the media have effect on
people and like perspective changes and like make them want
(46:34):
to do stuff that they maybe haven't thought about in
the past. Sure. I mean there are so many movies
and shows TV shows out there about the military, and
I think a lot of people joined because of I
don't know, top gun. They may just looks so cool
and if that's that's one thing that maybe they can
they can tackle, just the like how many war movies
(46:56):
there are out there, because it's not it's not it's
not about guns. It's just like it's about like the
normalization of violence in general and making it look so
cool that maybe that's the thing that they need to
talk about. But the the tools being used themselves, I
don't think they are you know, the solution. Plus, I
mean one of the reasons they just you know, they
(47:18):
talk about it because this this is the easiest thing
to critique, you know, and it's it's one of those
things that you can get get so many people to
agree on. And it also means that you don't have
to do anything tangible, which is cool, you know. Yeah,
it's just like an inflated self important stuff like what
(47:38):
are like not what like I think is important. But
like some people give themselves too much weight that they
think they're carrying on people that they're actually making people
do stuff because of their you know, art creations and
and and and all of that. And I'm just like, no, man,
it's it's way more than that. It's just you know, yes,
it's TV shows, yes it's movies, but it's also you know,
(48:00):
schools and a bunch of other bullshit that maybe you
should be talking about. I'm putting your money towards that.
What you're saying, that reminds me of when uh, and look,
I love this man. He he grew up as one
of my favorite entertainers actors. Still, you know, his work
still is up there at the top for me. But
(48:20):
it reminds me of when Jim Carey was in kick
Ass Too, which, if you haven't seen, some pretty violent movie.
A lot of weapon rh in there, not just guns, knives, bats, glass,
a lot of ship keeps. Somebody got killed with a lawnmower,
you know, so it's just a violent movie. And then
something had just happened. I can't remember what it was.
(48:40):
I don't know if it was Sandy Hook or it
was some type of mass shooting or something like that
that just happened. And I apologized for not knowing it
exactly off the top of my head. But when that
came out, then he basically just denounced himself from the movie, saying,
I don't stand behind this movie anymore. I can't blah
blah blah blah blah blah, which obviously was reactionary. Um,
(49:04):
and you know, I get being reactionary to a degree,
but then you know, I go back and think of
that I'm just like bro the like whoever was involved
in that mass murder and those unfortunate souls that lost
their lives didn't lose their lives because mother phone is
like who kick as made me want to go out
(49:24):
and kill some people like stop, you know, like you
and it's not just stopped, but like you can't just
say this one thing and have an incomplete conversation after that.
That is the thing, Like the conversation was incomplete. You
can't just say I don't stand for this violence, so
I can't stand behind it anymore because violence is bad
and stopped there because you are that that gives you
(49:45):
black and white and nobody's talking about the gray in
between right to get to those black and white stances,
and like that always disappointed me. You know, that was
one that was one of the biggest instances of somebody
from Hollywood giving themselves, like you said, the overinflated ego
of like what we do matters this much and not
(50:06):
saying the conversation isn't worth having. But you can't just
stop and saying I don't but I'm not standing behind
this movie anymore because it's violent, Like they also did
it after he had shot it and like, wasn't you know,
like there was nothing he was just like, I shouldn't
have done that. I don't like this movie anymore. So
basically he just like took away his contributions to the
(50:28):
publicity tour that would have happened afterwards, because yeah, you're
you're right, he shot that movie one month before the
Sandy Hook A bunch of fucking children. And again I
get being reactionary. That was a fucking travesty, like and
and I get I get a reactionary response to that,
(50:48):
Like I don't I'm not shifting on him for doing that.
I'm just saying like the conversation was incomplete and exactly, yeah, yeah, no,
I feel like it's just a it's just a it's
just a matter of just like kind of like improbably
like yes, and okay, you said this, what what else?
What are you gonna do? Is there something that you're
gonna donate too? Is there's something and it shouldive that
(51:10):
you're gonna start? Is what are you going from there?
Because even if this movie disappears, you know, h every
mass shooter is not going to be like, well, my
own my only reference to doing this is now gone
and I do not know how to do a violence anymore. Yeah. Yeah,
they're like pointing the gun backwards it themselves. There. The
(51:34):
thing it reminds me of is and it has nothing
to do with guns, but just the same level of
like thought and intention and just like it sounds good
but actually it doesn't make any sense. Uh. For for
a couple of weeks, I was brushing my teeth in
the shower because I thought it was helping save water.
(51:55):
And I thought that because Jennifer Aiston had said that
in an ad I had seen somewhere. And it's not
like I was like, well, Jennifer Aniston is my thought leader,
and therefore I must do whatever you said. But I
it was just like an idea in a you know,
attractive package that was like put out there that stuck
(52:15):
in my brain. Is like that makes sense. I'd rather
than like going over to the sink and turning the
water on there and then like you know, you you
find out that like that waste way more water. If
because the fucking shower sprint spending so much more water
than the sink, you dun't you dumb dumb? Also, Jack,
I listen, I love that, but I my my dirty
(52:39):
body water being down in the tub whatever. Sometimes you know,
as humans, sometimes people bee in the tub. Whatever. I can't.
I can't have toothpaste juice at the bottom of my feet,
like I just can't. You don't, then you don't have
to wash your feet. They're just minty fresh right away,
just kind of like around down there. Yeah, no, but
(53:07):
but that Yeah, it's the it's that level of like, Okay,
we'll give it one second of thought and it will
appear as though we're doing the right thing. But yeah,
maybe maybe like a second ten seconds of thought would
would have been useful in this case, or the case
of Jennifer Aniston telling me how to brush my teeth. Anyways, Mohanned,
(53:31):
it's been a real pleasure having you. Where can people
find you? Follow you all that good stuff? Well, you
can find me on Twitter. I'm always there at Mohanna
del Shaky and on the Instagram same thing, Mohanna del Shaky.
Look for looking in the description for the spelling of
my name, because I know you're gonna look for a
different name. And there's there's a Mohammad al Shaky out
(53:53):
there who has so many followers, and I hate that.
M Yeah, so, yeah, I listen to the I'm Sorry
pop cast. Yeah, And is there a tweet or some
of the work of social media you've been enjoying? There
was a there was a yes, there was a tweet
yesterday it was a hold that let me look forward
because it's a news headline. Oh yes, So John Henckley Jr.
(54:15):
Sold out concert canceled by Brooklyn video It's not worth
the gamble. And I was like, this is truly one
of my favorite tweets because first of all, how did
you sell out the venue? And why did they cancel? Like,
why did they agree at first? What did they think
was going to happen? It's just amazing to me, this
whole thing, like truly the most American tweet I can
(54:37):
think of. And I don't know, why do you canceled?
I don't know who's mad. It's definitely not Reagan. He's
not around. So it's let's let the man plays music.
That's wild. I want to see that venue, Like, yeah,
I kind of now want to go see Henckley live.
Go see my Man live. It's canceled. Now you're just
(54:58):
gonna go on twitch see treatment? Where can people find you?
What's a tweet you've been enjoying. Oh well, you know
you can always find me in the streets, baby, and uh,
you know you can find me on Instagram at Jackies neo.
For those of you who remember, I am permanently banned
(55:19):
from Twitter for telling, you know, telling a white man
who said this country is still the greatest country on
the planet and everybody should be lucky to live here,
for tweeting that out after the after the shooting um
Elementary the day of hours after, and I tweeted, by
(55:41):
the way, madis like the neo lib king of the media,
and so I tweeted back to him, I hope you
stop your toe every day and your knees always hurt,
and I hope you always have a piece of hair
stuck in your throat. And apparently that was a bridge
too far for Twitter, and I permanently got banned. So
(56:03):
fucking sane, Uh so Twitter, I don't have a tweet
that I like, but I will say this, first of all,
if you're watching Physical season two, check it out. I'm
in it. Comedian Feud in l A check that out
Family Feuds Family Fu. Yeah. Uh, this coming show is
with nikolebay Or and Paul Sheer, Jamie Loftus, the queen
(56:27):
of Zeitgeist, well Paul Sheer versus Nicole Bayer. Uh, they
have their own teams, and Jamie Loftus is doing stand
up and I am the host of the show. And uh,
one wonderful night. It's gonna be a great night. It's
gonna be a great night. It always is. It's always fun.
Five people from naudi Is get a chance to play
the winners of the two main captains, and uh, I
(56:50):
just want to give a special shout out, not to
bring it down, but I'm not gonna say any names
because I don't know if they want their business out
there on like you know, the air waves. But I
have two friends, both in her early thirties, one who
just got diagnosed with breast cancer and the other one
who just found out she has a brain to humor
within a week of each other, and uh, it was
(57:11):
a pretty rough week for that friend circle. You know,
I got faith that everything will be okay, but I
just you want to say, you know, hug your friends, man,
Hug your friends. Hu, Hug your loved ones. Let them
know you care about them, because you just never know, man,
you know, So I just want to give some some
special love and some some some thoughts to those two
(57:32):
dope as individuals who just had their worlds a little
rocked um in the past week. So shout out to y'all. Yeah,
alright now, I will follow that with a very tweet
that I've been enjoying. Yeah, and not give us a tweet.
You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore Brian
enjoying tweets such as this one please be g n
(57:55):
e I s s tweeted therapy isn't enough. I need
to be allowed to bite people. And Katie at Skadi
four twenty tweeted you think Sigma and Freud's friends where ever,
like hey man, shut the funk up? Think yeah, probably right,
like constantly. Maybe that's why he had to create his
(58:18):
own discipline where he could just like talk to strangers ceaselessly. Anyways,
You can find us on Twitter at Daily zich Geist,
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we link off to the information that we talked about
in today's episode, as well as a song that we
(58:39):
think you might enjoy, Uh, super producer justin, do you
have a song recommendation that you would like to share
with the people? Sure? Um, this one's gonna be a
little bit different than the ones I normally recommend. This
is from a New York band called Wet. This song
called Old Bone. This is the Jimmy's Back remix. It's
(59:01):
a really chill song. The drum patterns will really take
you away to a place that will ease the stress
of the of the news cycle and the crushing, flaming
wheel of chaos were all in at the at the moment.
And so if you want to drift away, enjoy a
nice time, put this thing on. It'll it'll really turn
(59:22):
your brain off for a little bit. So that's Old
Bone the Jimmy Stack remix by Wets, and you can
find that in the footnotes. Hell, you know, by the way,
I just remembered a fact I learned back when I
was editing that cracked that Uh, Sigmund Freud when he
was like out of his mind on cocaine, when he
invented like his talking cure as he called it, and
(59:45):
the person he like credits with like being part of
those first like talking Sessions died of a cocaine overdose,
like not not that long afterwards, so cocaine, Like it
sounds like a like cartoon version of history, but like
that is really he just got really high on cocaine,
couldn't stop talking like everybody I've ever encountered who was
(01:00:07):
really high on cocaine, and then was like everybody should
feel this way, and then we have a psychiatry. Anyways,
go check out that song. The Daily zykis in production
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Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to forty one,
Episode five of Dirt Dailies Like Guys Stay, production of
I Heart Radio. This is a podcast where we take
a deep dive into American share constitionness. And it's Friday, June,
which of course means that it is Global Garbage Man Day.
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I'm being told that's Global garbage Man Day the profession,
not just like garbage men and National Eat your Vegetables Day,
which don't tell me what to do. You know, I
have a successful podcast. You're a made up holiday I've
never heard of. Why don't you worry about yourself? National
Eat your Ventuable's everybody each Yeah that I I will
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allow it from my esteemed special guest co host, but
but not from some made up, bullshit holiday. I will
not have it. I will not countenance it. I've always
wanted to say that it's always the last weekday before
June tenth, so happy Juneteenth. We are taking Monday off,
so we'll see you guys on Tuesday. That's right, black people,
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you got the day off, so does everybody else. But
do something special for it. Go punch a white person.
There you go. You got my permission. I'm jumping everybody down, don't.
Violence is not I'm sorry, you can continue. My name
is Jack O'Brien aka. Do I need to work? Okay?
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Guess well? I need food also need to work, Okay,
to sleep below a roof. So pay me, employ me,
pay me, employ me. But I'm not working for more
than four days a week. That is courtesy and no clue,
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you know on that four days, four day work week ship,
which we advocate for on this show. I advocate for
it even even more after we had a recent episode
where someone pointed out that, like, one of the reasons
there's not revolutionary energy in America is because we're all
working constantly. We don't have we don't know in the
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second that America stopped working constantly because of the pandemic.
We looked around and we're like, whoa fuck the cops,
what what is happening here? This is terrible? So yeah,
just uh four days a week, let's let's let's do it. Also,
most of our jobs are bullshit reading David Graber's bullshit jobs. Alright, well,
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I'll tell you about a couple of guys whose work
isn't bullshit. First of all, I'm thrilled to be joined
by a very special guest co host and award winning
podcast host or writer, producer, actor, voice artists, one of
my favorite singers. It's the brilliant in town to Jakisnia.
Oh Gang, I'm hot just like Oven. You can't tell
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me nothing and baby me my eight k a's all
getting stronger and you getting longer. So when I get
that feeling a neat jock, he's healing jockeys healing baby.
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Oh what up? Knee grows? How you doing? Everybody? We
are back? We are here after start taking layers off.
Holy ship. I know you're sweating, man, I see it,
I see it. How is everybody? How are you? Joe good?
I'm good. I'm thrilled to heppy back, thrilled to be
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back as always. I love it. I love the fam,
love the sight Gang. We gotta we gotta dopas guests.
We gotta get to that. Yeah, we do have a
dopas guests. We're thrilled to be joining our third seat
by a hilarious stand up comedian hosted the podcast I'm
Sorry from limon Nata, digital producer for Full Frontal with
Smith and b and just very funny. Just google his name.
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And watch his stand up. He is fucking hilarious. It's
mohanned el Chiki. Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello, how's it? What's up?
What's up? Man? How are you today? I am. I'm
doing great, having a great time. I love it, love
being love being a life. You know, every day it's
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a beautiful thing. You know, it's a beautiful thing to
be alive. You know, Um, I don't know. I don't
know the alternative, but I'm gonna assume that it is
a beautiful thing to be alive. I just love that
you said that you don't know the alternative. I just
feel like it's there's one. There is only one alternative.
But I haven't experienced yet, so you know, yeah, you
know that's what I mean. I it may be a
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beautiful thing to be dead too, but I can't. I
heard no reviews, So I've heard no reviews. I heard
no reviews. Yeah. Yeah, that is a weird thing that
we just kind of buried. But like my I have
a four year old and a six year old, and
it's all they asked me ab out. They're just like, so, like,
what does your dad believe? What does like mommy's dad believe?
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What does everybody like that. Does anybody believe that we
just come back like that? All they wanted to talk
about is the afterlife. I'm like, you guys are freaking
me the fuck out. Stop it some spooky asks, jack,
but it but it makes sense to me, Like that
is the like if you know, if my brain hadn't
been if I hadn't done the work of blocking that
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out with just you know, TV and alcohol for many years,
I probably that's all I would think about as well. So, mohanad,
where are you coming to us from? I'm in New
York City right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's been around. Yeah,
broke around for a little while. Yeah. Uh. If I
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was to ask you, you know, because I maybe coming
to New York and a couple of months. And I've
been to New York a lot, but I always like
to get get the locals recommendations. What's what's your favorite
what's your favorite food spot? What's your favorite food spot
in Brooklyn that you would you would take a brother too?
You know what. There's a place called home Fright that
I keep ordering from. Uh huh. It's a burger place
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and I think it's the best I've ever had. There's
also Yemen Cafe, which I highly recommend. I've been to
that place maybe twenty times so far. Yeah, I mean,
I'm there, main source of forevenue. I'd say, I love it.
I love it, and we'll give him some coin. I'm
gonna give him some coin then when I get there.
Super producer Becca, who is a gang knows from training episodes,
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just found out about that. She's gonna try it out.
She's also in Brooklyn. So how long you been in Brooklyn?
Because because I know you, you were in Portland at
one point, Is that right? Yeah? Yeah, I was. I
was in Portland and then I moved to New York
in October, of which, if you ask me, perfect timing
to move to New Yil City really really nailed it. Yeah.
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I had good five months of being outside. It's all
I needed. Really. All Right, Well, we're going to get
to know you a little bit better in a moment. First,
we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of the things
that we're talking about. We're gonna talk about another one
of the one of those things that I would only
talk and think about if I if I was just
allowed myself to be like just all let myself go
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and just thought and talked about the things that I'm
curious about and want to know about, which is UFOs.
It's kind of a big question, are we alone are
what what the funk is all that stuff that we
keep seeing that the that the top Gun people keep
seeing because all all those videos are from naval aviators,
so it's they left that out of Top Gun to
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all the UFO sightings. But we're gonna talk about because
NASA is joining the hunt for UFOs in a way
that like in theory promising to have somebody officially like
bringing back information on this subject that isn't part of
the military industrial complex. But on the other hand, they
have given it the whopping budget of a hundred thousand dollars.
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That's that's when you when you look at like what
government budgets are, like, I think that might be the
lowest budget I've ever heard of for anything. That's like saying, bro,
they give black people more than that. So we're gonna
talk about that. We're gonna talk about Hollywood coming out
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with a strong blame Hollywood stance on gun violence, which
just misguided. But I don't know, I think there's a
way they can correct themselves here. So what we'll talk
about that all of that plenty more. But before we
get to any of it, mohammedd we like to ask
our guests, what is something from your search history? Oh h,
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I literally I looked at up right now on my
Google and mostly the western I have are related to cats. Well, yeah,
one of them is just like, can cat drink cow milk?
And then do my cat? How do I know that
my cats love me? It's truly so setting that I'm
looking at it now that I'm just looking at my
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cats and just trying to read their minds and make
sure that they continue to be alive. And other than that,
the third search the thing I have is my own name.
There you go. Yeah, I don't know what that says
about me? No, no, no, it says you're normal, man,
it says that's what we all do. I sart. I
google my name every about a couple every couple of
weeks probably, I don't know. You just gotta see what
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you have to see what the what the streets are
talking about. I get that, true, true, yeah, it's it's
it's usually nothing. But I'm just like I just keep
I keep going at it. I mean, maybe I'll find something.
Maybe maybe you'll find out something. You're on page seven
of the Google results, like progress making progress, Have you
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ever Googled your name? And then so like unless you
have like a straight out Wikipedia, but like generally, like
people within the industry who don't have wikipedias have some
type of like WICKI something like depending on where you
are or what you do. And some of them are legit,
you know, depending on what it's from. But then there
will be some of them where they're clearly written from
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people from another country, uh, just riddled, and then the
most inaccurate fucking information. But those are like some of
my favorite ones because it'll say I had one. It
was like Jacky's Neil is an amazing stature. Uh. I
was like, thank you, I'm thank you. I'm only five mate,
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but I will take amazing stature. Uh. And then it
was like algorithmically generated. Yeah, it's crazy. And then it
was like, oh, when I was with my girl before,
and it was like and he has a partner who
he seems to love. It doesn't talk too much about
Oh my god, I do want to say mohaned like
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I was. I wasn't implying by the way that you
were only on the seventh page of Google search results.
I meant to say that, like in your quest, you're
you're like digging deep and you're now on the seventh page.
Like what are they saying about me on this obscure
reddit threat? But you do have a Wikipedia, which is
you know that that's a big deal. It's a big flex. No,
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Like I do have a Wikipedia, but I also find
myself on those sites and it says that my net
worth is five million dollars. You want to know where
that money is. I could just tell that your net
worth is five million dollars based on your stature, and
just like you, I know, I know. Man. So whoever
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whoever got Mohanned's you know, you know, five million, give
it to him he wanted, you know, want even even
half of it. I'll take half, you can take the
other half. Please. What is something that you think is overrated?
Cooking for yourself? Because a lot of people tell me
that it's it's great for me and it's also a
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great way to save money and to be healthy, and
I keep hearing about it, and because I talked to
one person about it, Instagram will not stop showing me
like you know, like metal prep stuff and and whatnot,
and and I tried it, and I'll tell you this,
I don't like cooking. And after doing it for two
weeks just trying to cook for myself and whatnot and
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being told that this will make me feel good, now
I hate cooking so much. Like with passion, this ship sucks.
It's not fun, Like stop lying to people like you
can just buy stuff outside of good food delivered and
it cost me the same amount. Because I don't know
how to cook it. I just keep sucking up and
then I just have to recook it again or I
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cooked too much and then I just don't know how
to save it. Anyway, it's a mess. It doesn't make
me feel good. And I cook for like forty five
minutes and it didn't takes me takes me what ten
minutes to eat it or less? Ye fair, that's the
that's the thing that makes me upset with cooking is
you'll you'll like, sit down, you'll make a meal. You'll
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do all the prep. First of all, the prep and
cook time never correlates when the actual time it takes
you to prep. It would be like ten minutes to prep,
and I'll look up and it'll be thirty five minutes later.
And you do all this cooking, all this preparing, and
then you sit down and you get a plate of
food to eat. I like to eat and wash TV.
And then like, I'll sit down with the hour show
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and I'm done in like five minutes, and I'm just like,
all right, well two hours to make this for five
minutes and I still got fifty minutes of the show left.
I feel like I feel like someone needs to create
like a i Q test, or like something that involves timing,
that involves like something that can tell us if we're
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good or not a cooking because there there are people
like my wife is doesn't cook a lot, but when
she does her the prep time says ten minutes. She
does it in like ten minutes, and when I do it,
it is three hours. My brain does not work that way.
I've tried. I've been trying to cook for you know, decades.
Now I suck at it. It is stressful. It falls apart.
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I had like some people over to my house from
from the t DZ team, and I like cooked chicken
for them on the grill, and it was the most
stressful experience of my life because I like, yeah, I
I fucking hated it. It was bad. They were like
parts that were pink. I I just I blew it.
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Bro you're giving people salmonilla, yeah exactly. And I'm like
they were like, dude, chill out. But I was like
just hovering over them, like sweating beads, just being like
try it, just try to try. Okay, okay, no, and
then like pulling it out of their hands and putting
it back on the grill. I'm not good at that.
Not good. It's not done that. That's like, gracious host,
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Get you a host that won't let you eat raw chicken.
That's what I always say. Mahan, all right, Mahan. And
I know you. I know you don't like cooking, but
everybody has the thing that they can cook and that
they like to cook and that tastes somewhat good, even
if it's like a damn grilled cheese sandwich. Do you
have that at the very least? Do you have something? Yeah, alright,
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I know it's a good pasta. I'm just like I'll
make a pasta and it was good. Yeah, and and
and that's that's as far as it can go. Do
you do you have a secret tier pasta. It's just
something that my mom used to make a lot, and
he sent me the recipe, and like I did it
so many times that I know how. Like it's it's
one of those things where like I know how to
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do it. I don't have to look at something at
the thing in order to remind me. Yeah, So that's
that part is good. But other than that, I'm like
absolutely not. Like I have a couple of things I'm
good at, and it's all because they're very basic, and
I know, like one trick that makes them good. Like
scrambled eggs. I add more water than most people would
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expect to more to scrambled eggs. Yeah, I had, Well
if you don't add water at all, Yeah, scrambled eggs
with water in it. Like I have this Korean like
egg Souflay thing that was where they do like fifty
percent water fifty percent eggs and then the eggs just
come out like it's it's not even let like they're
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halfway between a liquid and a solid. But they're so
good and so soft, and like you can you can't
really overcook them when you have water enough water in them.
So that's why I've been leaning on that you forgot
the words who play Becca just type. I was about
to say I me too, But when you add a
souflay in there, I was like, Okay, that makes that
makes sense, that makes sense. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah Korean.
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This obscure Korean dish. It's called a sou flay. I
don't think anyone's ever heard of it. But I went to, yeah,
that's how bad I am at cooking. I didn't even
know there was. That's what a flay was. What is
something that you think is underrated? Mohammed, something is underrated?
That's a that's a hard one, man. I just I
just feel like I'm in the because of social media.
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I look at everything as overrated. That yeah that I have.
I think my my brain is poisoned right now that
I do not enjoy the small things in life. But
I say something underrated, like it's not really special, it's
very basic. But lately I literally have been doing absolutely
nothing and just laying on my couch and playing FIFA,
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and that that feeling of happiness that gives me absolutely amazing.
Everyone was like, oh, just goes to the park in
New York is the summertime. It's no, it's not. No,
it's not. Absolutely everyone is doing it and I get
sweaty in my apartment. I don't get sweaty. I just
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I just played this one game and get really good
at and no one gives a funk that I'm good
at it except the love that I'm sure amazing. Yeah,
you know, you got some room. I'm seeing some sun
in that room, so you get some light. Yeah, yeah,
it's great. Yeah everyone should you know, everyone trying to
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make plans and go outside. You doing this summer? Like,
just stay at home. It's perfect. Yeah, you're not gonna
pay a pressure of me into enjoy the company for others.
I agree with you, man, I agree with you because listen,
I for the longest time, for most of my adult
life from thirty five now, most of my adult life,
I would have guilt like staying in the bad past,
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like nine am, you know, like even if I wanted to,
I would be laying in bed and be like I
gotta get up. I gotta get up, and you know,
and then you know, in our professions sometimes we do
I have to be on set sometimes I like six
am or you know, so like if I have I
have to get up. But if I don't have a job,
I would still have that guilt. Lately, over the past
like two months to three months, I've been letting that
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guilt go and saying, if I'm still fucking sleepy and
I don't have to be nowhere and there's eight thirty nine,
I will stay my as in bed until I feel
like I am not exhausted or tired anymore. And it's
such an underrated thing to let go of just relaxing
we've had. Yeah, the I think that's because of the pandemic, man, like,
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because it was like at the time of the lockdown,
like you're just like, man, a lot of the suffer
that I thought matters that much, it does not really
so well, that's the you know, I guess it's silver lining,
but yeah, somewhat, Yeah, no, man, taking care of yourself
and video video games are underrated, and I know you
know that just sets some people off. I know some
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people are like, what you mean underrated? Video games are
one of the most highly rated things of all time. Yeah,
to you, But there are some people. There's some people
who big video games are a waste of time. And
to those people, I say to them, it's an underrated
thing to sit down because you'll be thinking that you
you have to strategize. You feel happy when you win.
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You get some anger, you're not directing it at anybody,
you know what I'm saying. It teaches you not to
throw your controllers across the room, so you learn anger management.
It's a lot of ship that video games can do
for you. It gives you a thick skin, especially when
a ten year old yells at you when you play online.
You know, you're like, wow, might have a six skin now,
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because these kids are assholes. That's Jack. That's Jack Jack
be yelling at people online. I usually claim that I
stopped playing video games that when I was you know,
I gave up at stage of and sixty four. But
I'm really I just really went underground and now pretend
to be a ten year old who's really mean to people.
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But you're you're exactly right, Like the I am definitely
one of those people who has that voice in my head,
the like video as a were waste of time, Like
don't you know? That's why I quit playing video games,
and it's I don't know now now my kids are
like if they grow up, if we continue to be
a household without video games like that. That's weird, right,
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that's like the being the family without a TV in
your household. Now like that's yeah, get him a switch,
get him a switch, you will start playing. Yeah, I
hear good things. Miles and I had a thing yesterday
where we got to see each other in person, which
was lovely and both ubered over give give ourselves a
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little break. And he pulled up with a switch with
him to to a work thing, which was I loved it. Yeah,
all right, let's take a quick break. We'll come back,
we'll talk to UFOs, we'll talk about maybe why Joe
Biden shouldn't run for president again, all that plenty more,
be right back and we're back. And one of the
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early episodes, one of my favorite early episodes of this
show was one where where the guest was one Mr
Jakise Neil and we talked about UFOs and I was like,
this is a dumb thing, but it's a slow newsday
and my brain cannot take any more conversations about Donald Trump,
and people seemed to respond well to it. So it
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was I think an important episode that taught us just
how dumb we could be on this show. And so
you know, anytime Jakis is back on, I like to
just do a quick search for what's going on in
the world of UFOs for old time's sake. And apparently
NASA has joined the fight. They announced that they're going
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to launch an independent committee to investigate, like what's going
on with all these U A p S. The Pentagon
has spent the past couple of years being like, Okay, yeah,
we acknowledge you guys aren't crazy, We just don't know
what it is. We don't like to not know what
things are, so we're gonna we're gonna do an investigation.
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And they announced their findings and they were pretty underwhelming.
It was a nine page report and it was very
short on specifics, did not draw any definitive conclusions. Like
they did say, Okay, some of these we can explain
away weather balloons, like just like seeing weird things at
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a weird angle from a weird distance, looks like you know,
U A P or UFO. But they also were they
were like, there there are dozens of these that we
have absolutely no explanation for. And they also added at
the end there there was no evidence that they came
from extraterrestrial sources, which was like yeah, I don't. We
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we kind of had a sense that you weren't going
to bury the fact that you had evidence of extraterrestrial life,
like in the sixth paragraph of this report. But throwing
throwing in that last sentence is so perfect and just
glib and fulish. I I don't ever mistake myself for
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someone of high intelligence, Like I'm not stupid, I'm I'm educated,
I got a degree, I read. But I am flummixed
at the fact that NASA is just get like, who
the fuck else was into UFOs before the Space Administration, Like, like,
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doesn't it seem like they would be the ones who
were always like in the fight. I don't know what
other government entity was handling I mean, well, I guess
the answer was no, none of them were, but nobody
was because there was this massive stigma around it. And interesting, Yeah,
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it's but that that's a really good point, like that,
That's what this really lays bare for me, is like
how much mistakema around it there is? Right, NASA meanwhile,
has been like you know, focused on proving that like
there might have been ice on Mars once and like
ice means there could have been life, and just ignoring
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the ship out of like all these like UFO like
findings and like official like videos that nobody can explain,
And yeah, I don't know that. That's the thing that
like this report, I was like, Wow, they're so scared
of taking this seriously, like in the in this report,
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it's a Washington Post story. But in in the report,
NASA Administrator Bill Nelson said he had seen the classified
ui P report when he was serving the Senate and
the hair stood up on the back of my neck,
so that that's signific Again. At the same time, they
also said the study, to begin in the fall, will
last about nine months and cost no more than one
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hundred thousand dollars, which, uh I could have gave them
that that's that's ridiculous. I love that that's how much
they are getting. A hundred K. That is so embarrassing,
to be honest, it is. It's just like like, what
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do you deal with a hundred K? I like, I'm
just like the just there's a bunch of iPhones just
like pointed to the sky. Just picture, Yes, with a
hundred K, you buy five hundred iPhones and like five
hundred tripods and just like station them in areas where
nobody can see them. And that's your hundred k right there.
(26:49):
And then what you give is what you get, you know,
that's what you get. That's so funny. All right, my hunted,
let's cute. Let's cute the conspiracy music. Go ahead, throw
that music there. What do you believe? What do you believe?
Do you? Yeah? I do think there are aliens, and
but I do believe that they do not want to
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hang out with us. They just don't want anything to
do with us. I think it's so embarrassing how long
we've been just like, you know, sending the messages, just
like they literally just like ghosting us at this point,
and they're like this, like you guys are just like
you guys just sucked, just like like we see what
you're doing. We're not into it. We're just gonna live
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here in peace. It's fun here. Everything that you're going
through now, we have figured this out a thousand years ago,
and we have no interest in helping you here, so
we need to stop. I guess what do we think
their motivation is? Assuming that they're like some of these
U a p S are life from another planet and
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they are here and they're just looking at us like
zoo animals and you know, something like going going diving
through the ocean because like the animals down there are
really cool. I'm assuming that's like part of the thing.
We always see them around the ocean. During the Cold War,
they were they seemed very interested in nuclear weapons because
I think they were like, we don't want these dip
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ships to you know, kill themselves. We want to I
feel like they're rooting for us, but yeah, they're just
like they're like that they can't handle this ship right now.
I think they're they're they're rooting for the show to continue.
I feel like we're in some kind of like the
whole earth is stuck in in in like some kind
of the Truman Show scenario was that I've watching us
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do it like every move and stuff like that, and yeah,
they're saving us because they're just like, yeah, we literally
stopped looking for a bit and we lost dinosaurs. So
you can't let these guys do whatever they want. So
this is this is my theory. Yeah, I love that.
I love that. I mean, like I do think we
are an incredibly unadvanced species, which is why you know,
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like people forget we are as the human race a
very young species. Uh we are just started a couple
of thousand years ago. Yeah, we're We're so young and
stupid and dumb and don't know ship And that is
so true. We've been looking for all these us, all
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these aliens and all these things like that, and I've
never really contemplated the fact that maybe they just don't
want to be found because they like, oh the humans,
ugly man, I don't like these m I'm gonna go
ahead over here and uh talk to you know, talk
to these other advanced worlds and universes and stuff like that.
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It's pretty funny. That's my other theory is that like
I think the military industrial complex like you know, not
the most trust forth. It's kind of wild, like it, Yeah,
to your point, you keeps the like NASA has not
been involved in this to this point is like crazy.
It's like, oh, wait, I guess that kind of like
the part of my brain was assuming that's who who
(30:09):
was on this ship up to this point. Um. But
also that like the least trustworthy, like biggest grifter in
maybe like the history of the modern world, the US
military industrial complex it is who we have on the
job is like not great, They're not always the most trustworthy,
not always great at being transparent, but I think they
(30:34):
like it's interesting that they have hidden anything they found
that is indicative of like life on another planet or
extra trust real life. And I think it's because like
the the fact that there are extraterrestrials and they aren't
killing us means that that would that must be like
a very like primitive idea, and like that's what their
(30:58):
whole business is built on, is the idea that like, well,
you know, once you see somebody else, they're going to
kill you, because like it's either kill or be killed,
and like that's why we need to spend all the
money on having big bombs to shoot the people in
kids they shoot big bombs at us and like to
have a more advanced civilization, just like back there being
(31:19):
like all right, yeah, I mean we're we're rooting for you.
I think that's the big conspiracy. I don't know, but
I used to want. I I mean, I still want
to know if they're I mean, I know I believe it,
and I know if there's life elsewhere and aliens and
blah blah blah blah blah. I used to really want
(31:39):
to experience it, like some shipped to like really go
down here on earth see it? You know what I'm saying,
because like, even though I think they're advanced, I do
think like we could probably give a few of these
aliens hands, right, we can, we can independence damn or
a little bit, right, we can will sment them. But
I don't. But I used to also feel like it
would be the only sing the only thing that would
(32:03):
unite the human race together. And I stopped believing in
it at March two thousand twenty when this pandemic showed
me that there is nothing that we won't fight about
in this country. So now I don't want no ship
to go down because if it does like we fucked,
(32:25):
because we ain't, we're gonna be We're gonna be divided ourselves.
While they up here looking like I know, I know
the fact that they haven't killed us and are still
hanging out like watching gives me some hope that like
there's a further level of evolution that they're like you guys,
like aren't aren't hopeless, you know, or maybe they're just
(32:45):
like waiting for us to kill ourselves so they can
move in to the Arizona or wherever. Then the I'm
just one. The concept of killing is not something to them.
They don't understand what that means. I feel like they're
gonna come here and the first thing that especially Americans
here will do be like, let's give them guns and
see what happens. Yeah. Yeah, they will try to taste
(33:07):
blood and be like, you know what, we fucking love this.
We're gonna kill each and every one of these people.
There's pretty strong evidence that there were unidentified flying objects
over d C and in the skies over l A,
like during World War Two, and we said we like
scrambled fighting planes and like shot at them, and they're
(33:30):
just like all right, man, Like it just flew away.
They were like, Okay, that's what you want to do.
If we do, if we do find aliens, you know
what's really gonna happen is we're gonna jesufy them. You know,
we're gonna we're gonna be like, oh aliens, that's an
American alien right there. Uh, that's a white hair that's
a blue eyed, blonde haired alien. Right. I think they're
(33:52):
absolutely right that we're not ready for whatever they're hiding
from us. I'm not ready, man. They were funk us
up I also think that like that the c I
A like half of the sightings that I've seen that
are I'm like, they can't be explained, are probably like
things the CIA put out there to obscure the truth,
(34:13):
because that does seem to be how the CIA operates,
as they'll put like plausible fake information out so that
when you have a theory, like they can debunk like
some of the things that you point to. So I
do think there's like a lot of like you know,
security military industrial complex like bullshit that goes into this.
(34:34):
So I'm hoping NASA can help with the thirty five
dollars that they have put put towards this small project. Yeah,
and that's if you're listening. Just post your Venmo on Twitter. Yeah,
get a kick star to go on. We can get
y'all more than a hundred thousand, Like just just in
(34:54):
l A alone, we can get y'all more than a
hundred really, but like that really the takeaway is that
you're in initial point of keys. They're like NASA hasn't
been on this. NASA like is trying to find anyway
they can to get people interested in NASA again, and
like they've been doing that they've been spending billions of
dollars on these like missions to mars. I don't know, man,
(35:15):
Like you want, yeah, you want to want a generation
of kids to be like interested again like they were
in the sixties and seventies. Maybe like go with the
stuff that makes the hair stand up on the back
of your neck, Like I feel like that's that's a
good one. Maybe devote more than a hundred thousand dollars
to it. I got I got one more thing to
say about just UFOs and all this ship. I do
(35:38):
believe it. I do believe we've seen stuff. But before
the Trump presidency, I used to believe there was more
of it. And like once you got to that level,
you know, like classifying information, they kept it. Ain't no
fucking way Donald J. Trump would have kept it to
himself if he would have found out once he at
(36:00):
the presidency, aliens were real and area if it the
one got up. Man. So maybe we haven't found as
much as I used to think, because due unless something slip,
he would even just alluded to it. There's a famous
Clinton Bill Clinton speech because he when he came into office,
he immediately started he was like, all right, I want
to find out like what there is, like put put
(36:21):
together a fact finding mission. And he was like, and
I found out that, like there are some things they
don't tell the president, Like they won't tell like I
hit a wall as president where I like there's something
there and they weren't telling me. I'm like, Clinton has
like come out and just said that. So, yeah, I
don't real Illuminati ship, it's real and Bill Clinton is
(36:44):
not invited. You're like, you'll bring weird vibes. Man, you're
creeping everybody out at this Liminati sex party. Yeah, maybe
put put on the weight, put the way back on, man,
you look like the crypt keeper. Yeah. Yeah, all right,
(37:05):
let's take a quick break. We'll come back, and we're back.
And so there's a bunch of big Hollywood A listers
(37:25):
signed an open letter urging Hollywood to reconsider how guns
are used on screen. So presumably the letter is to themselves.
I guess it's like a lot of like very powerful
Pia Shonda, RAN's, j J Abrahams, Julian Moore, Amy Schumer.
You know people who could, if they were to really
(37:49):
like make this a full time mission, throw their weight around. Unfortunately,
the way the just the ideas in the letter are
kind of reinforce a right wing talking point which deflects
attention away from gun control towards like, well, there's too
much violence in this dang holly weird culture that they're
(38:11):
put in front of our kids. When Matthew McConaughey gave
that speech about you know you've all day, which is
his hometown, like bright, Bart put up an article with
the headline six handguns to assault weapons to submachine guns
shotgun grenade used in HBO's True Detective produced by starring
(38:31):
Matthew McConaughey got him. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean wonder
woman or not, I mean, what's her name? Linda Carter
responded to that. It was like, yeah, I also flew
an invisible plane, and I still think we should follow,
(38:51):
you know, the laws of pilot tree. I don't know
which you see says something to that, and it's just
like yeah, yeah, bio dry and I'm just like, you know,
and here's the thing I do. You know, I do
think that when some people say ship like that, that
there are some people who just are missing that part
of their brain. But I do think most people who
(39:14):
say stuff like that, no, they bullshit, like you know
what the difference is, stop bullshit like, but you know
they gotta say it because they are playing to the
base that have the missing parts of their brains. So there,
that's the that's what they're playing to when they say
things that they just know flat out make no sense
(39:35):
or isn't and isn't logical logical arts. It doesn't make
any sense. Yeah, it doesn't. It doesn't make any sense
to be like, oh, but you've done this thing in
the past. Everyone does. Then you get you don't get
to complain about it. And it's just like, I mean,
guns have been around and in movies and shows and
stuff like that, and they're I mean, there's the show
(39:55):
Bary on HBO and he's an assassin. Yeah, yeah, I'm
sure he doesn't think that you should be going to
go around shooting people just because he does that on
the TV show. That's why it's fiction. I have decided
that this is my last episode of TDS and I'm
I'm going to be a trained assassin just based on
having watched the last episode last season of Barry. It
(40:18):
was like too too good argument, Like, first of all,
people have done studies and evidence indicates that like violent
crimes decreased in the wake of violent blockbuster movies, you know,
just common sense. Wise, I definitely think that I think
guns are cooler than I would have if I didn't
(40:39):
grow up like with die Hard and Rambo as my
favorite movies like when I was eight years old. But
like you know, Canada, which definitely by no means perfect
like consumes the exact same movies and TV shows at
the US plus Degrassi, but in twenty nineteen they had
eight times fewer gun related deaths proportionately. I mean, here's
(41:04):
the thing. We're at two points one, Like we were
talking about this earlier before we started recording, and I
I want sensible gun laws. I won't I'm sure you
look the guns off the street. I wouldn't give a ship.
But like you know, I'm I'm also not stupid enough
to think that that will ever happen. So like, at
(41:25):
the very least, I do think like we should get
you know, gun laws and gun control and all this ship.
But even me saying that, I'm not dumb enough to
think we should take it out of television and movies
because it doesn't do anything like where I I used
to be a tour guid in l A. And this
(41:46):
is to this point. I used to be a tour
guy in l A. And whenever I would have like
a tough day, like for whatever reason, my my tourists,
my guests were shitty, you know, the cops in the
streets were shifty, you know, locals and whatever, I would
come home. Not all the time, but sometimes I would
come home. I would fire up g T A five, which,
(42:08):
for those of you who don't know, was set in
Los Angeles, and I would make my way to Hollywood
and throw sekey bombs on tour buses and fuck people
up like and I would do that ship And in
no shape form of fashion have I ever had the
inkling to do any of that in real life ever,
(42:31):
Because I'm not a psychopath, And I know the difference
between the video game and being able to do that
there and let out that like steam or whatever, and
actually having the thirst to murder people like those are
two different things. Like it's insane, it's so insane. So
(42:51):
you know, Uly, you have just rendered yourself incapable of
talking about gun things because you did once someone in
a video game. Uh by the McConaughey clause you're not
allowed to talk about I can't. I can't. Well it's
been real everybody bless you know, somebody else has made
(43:13):
the point that, like maybe it's a good thing to target,
like because you, you guys are powerful people in this industry.
Is Hollywood like basically does product placement for gun companies
in movies and TV shows like The State, the same
way that like Stranger Things helped sales of egoes. And
(43:34):
you know that that movie The Wizard made me think
that the power Glove would fix my life. I don't
know if you remember that Fred Savage movie where like
he got the power Glove and it was just so
much better than the real thing. Yeah, gun companies like
Glock offer their products to prop houses for cheap or
free in exchange for the promotion. In two thousand ten,
(43:56):
Glock received a Lifetime Achievement Award from the website Brands
Channel for appearing in more than fift percent of that
year's box office topping films. Wow, so this is a
strategy that like you you your industry helps guns and
helps gun companies make money. So maybe make it so
(44:20):
that you're not using real guns. Maybe make it so
that you these gun companies don't have some input into
the scripting and how their weapons are used in in
your products. I'm all for I'm one percent all for
Hollywood saying we are no longer going to let gun
manufactors and you know, lobbies profit off of our industry anymore,
(44:46):
or you know, like you said, be able to have input.
I'm one percent for that. I think that should one
percent go away. That and no more guns and movies
are two different things though, so like, but it should
just be all old shitty looking guns that are like beautiful,
like flaccid, like the guns are like soft when they
(45:07):
pick them up. Yes, no more real looking guns on
erect guns from here on out. Smith and Wesson actually
hired an actual product placement firm to help them break
into the industry. Yeah so yeah, I mean maybe instead
of modifying the content, make sure that their projects aren't
(45:29):
lighting the pockets of real life gun manufacturers. I think
would be the Well, I'm interested, I'm interested to know
what you think. Mohammed Mohammed on why like what like
even if if liberal as Hollywood is saying the same tired, well,
maybe it is the media of this leading to more violence,
(45:50):
and if we take it away, then maybe there will
be less violence. The ones who are seemingly on the
side of gun control are still repeating these tired as.
I don't even know there's whatout talking talking points. Yeah,
you know, sometimes it just feels like there's no hope.
I don't know if you have a different take, if
you have a different take or a different optimism, And
(46:12):
it's fine if you don't, because I'm right there with
you if you don't, but yeah, if you have a
different take or different optimism on yeah, I just honestly,
I think it's just yeah, like I agree with you
like that saying that, you know, taking guns from movies
is going to solve anything. It doesn't make any sense,
uh the I mean, does the media have effect on
people and like perspective changes and like make them want
(46:34):
to do stuff that they maybe haven't thought about in
the past. Sure. I mean there are so many movies
and shows TV shows out there about the military, and
I think a lot of people joined because of I
don't know, top gun. They may just looks so cool
and if that's that's one thing that maybe they can
they can tackle, just the like how many war movies
(46:56):
there are out there, because it's not it's not it's
not about guns. It's just like it's about like the
normalization of violence in general and making it look so
cool that maybe that's the thing that they need to
talk about. But the the tools being used themselves, I
don't think they are you know, the solution. Plus, I
mean one of the reasons they just you know, they
(47:18):
talk about it because this this is the easiest thing
to critique, you know, and it's it's one of those
things that you can get get so many people to
agree on. And it also means that you don't have
to do anything tangible, which is cool, you know. Yeah,
it's just like an inflated self important stuff like what
(47:38):
are like not what like I think is important. But
like some people give themselves too much weight that they
think they're carrying on people that they're actually making people
do stuff because of their you know, art creations and
and and and all of that. And I'm just like, no, man,
it's it's way more than that. It's just you know, yes,
it's TV shows, yes it's movies, but it's also you know,
(48:00):
schools and a bunch of other bullshit that maybe you
should be talking about. I'm putting your money towards that.
What you're saying, that reminds me of when uh, and look,
I love this man. He he grew up as one
of my favorite entertainers actors. Still, you know, his work
still is up there at the top for me. But
(48:20):
it reminds me of when Jim Carey was in kick
Ass Too, which, if you haven't seen, some pretty violent movie.
A lot of weapon rh in there, not just guns, knives, bats, glass,
a lot of ship keeps. Somebody got killed with a lawnmower,
you know, so it's just a violent movie. And then
something had just happened. I can't remember what it was.
(48:40):
I don't know if it was Sandy Hook or it
was some type of mass shooting or something like that
that just happened. And I apologized for not knowing it
exactly off the top of my head. But when that
came out, then he basically just denounced himself from the movie, saying,
I don't stand behind this movie anymore. I can't blah
blah blah blah blah blah, which obviously was reactionary. Um,
(49:04):
and you know, I get being reactionary to a degree,
but then you know, I go back and think of
that I'm just like bro the like whoever was involved
in that mass murder and those unfortunate souls that lost
their lives didn't lose their lives because mother phone is
like who kick as made me want to go out
(49:24):
and kill some people like stop, you know, like you
and it's not just stopped, but like you can't just
say this one thing and have an incomplete conversation after that.
That is the thing, Like the conversation was incomplete. You
can't just say I don't stand for this violence, so
I can't stand behind it anymore because violence is bad
and stopped there because you are that that gives you
(49:45):
black and white and nobody's talking about the gray in
between right to get to those black and white stances,
and like that always disappointed me. You know, that was
one that was one of the biggest instances of somebody
from Hollywood giving themselves, like you said, the overinflated ego
of like what we do matters this much and not
(50:06):
saying the conversation isn't worth having. But you can't just
stop and saying I don't but I'm not standing behind
this movie anymore because it's violent, Like they also did
it after he had shot it and like, wasn't you know,
like there was nothing he was just like, I shouldn't
have done that. I don't like this movie anymore. So
basically he just like took away his contributions to the
(50:28):
publicity tour that would have happened afterwards, because yeah, you're
you're right, he shot that movie one month before the
Sandy Hook A bunch of fucking children. And again I
get being reactionary. That was a fucking travesty, like and
and I get I get a reactionary response to that,
(50:48):
Like I don't I'm not shifting on him for doing that.
I'm just saying like the conversation was incomplete and exactly, yeah, yeah, no,
I feel like it's just a it's just a it's
just a matter of just like kind of like improbably
like yes, and okay, you said this, what what else?
What are you gonna do? Is there something that you're
gonna donate too? Is there's something and it shouldive that
(51:10):
you're gonna start? Is what are you going from there?
Because even if this movie disappears, you know, h every
mass shooter is not going to be like, well, my
own my only reference to doing this is now gone
and I do not know how to do a violence anymore. Yeah. Yeah,
they're like pointing the gun backwards it themselves. There. The
(51:34):
thing it reminds me of is and it has nothing
to do with guns, but just the same level of
like thought and intention and just like it sounds good
but actually it doesn't make any sense. Uh. For for
a couple of weeks, I was brushing my teeth in
the shower because I thought it was helping save water.
(51:55):
And I thought that because Jennifer Aiston had said that
in an ad I had seen somewhere. And it's not
like I was like, well, Jennifer Aniston is my thought leader,
and therefore I must do whatever you said. But I
it was just like an idea in a you know,
attractive package that was like put out there that stuck
(52:15):
in my brain. Is like that makes sense. I'd rather
than like going over to the sink and turning the
water on there and then like you know, you you
find out that like that waste way more water. If
because the fucking shower sprint spending so much more water
than the sink, you dun't you dumb dumb? Also, Jack,
I listen, I love that, but I my my dirty
(52:39):
body water being down in the tub whatever. Sometimes you know,
as humans, sometimes people bee in the tub. Whatever. I can't.
I can't have toothpaste juice at the bottom of my feet,
like I just can't. You don't, then you don't have
to wash your feet. They're just minty fresh right away,
just kind of like around down there. Yeah, no, but
(53:07):
but that Yeah, it's the it's that level of like, Okay,
we'll give it one second of thought and it will
appear as though we're doing the right thing. But yeah,
maybe maybe like a second ten seconds of thought would
would have been useful in this case, or the case
of Jennifer Aniston telling me how to brush my teeth. Anyways, Mohanned,
(53:31):
it's been a real pleasure having you. Where can people
find you? Follow you all that good stuff? Well, you
can find me on Twitter. I'm always there at Mohanna
del Shaky and on the Instagram same thing, Mohanna del Shaky.
Look for looking in the description for the spelling of
my name, because I know you're gonna look for a
different name. And there's there's a Mohammad al Shaky out
(53:53):
there who has so many followers, and I hate that.
M Yeah, so, yeah, I listen to the I'm Sorry
pop cast. Yeah, And is there a tweet or some
of the work of social media you've been enjoying? There
was a there was a yes, there was a tweet
yesterday it was a hold that let me look forward
because it's a news headline. Oh yes, So John Henckley Jr.
(54:15):
Sold out concert canceled by Brooklyn video It's not worth
the gamble. And I was like, this is truly one
of my favorite tweets because first of all, how did
you sell out the venue? And why did they cancel? Like,
why did they agree at first? What did they think
was going to happen? It's just amazing to me, this
whole thing, like truly the most American tweet I can
(54:37):
think of. And I don't know, why do you canceled?
I don't know who's mad. It's definitely not Reagan. He's
not around. So it's let's let the man plays music.
That's wild. I want to see that venue, Like, yeah,
I kind of now want to go see Henckley live.
Go see my Man live. It's canceled. Now you're just
(54:58):
gonna go on twitch see treatment? Where can people find you?
What's a tweet you've been enjoying. Oh well, you know
you can always find me in the streets, baby, and uh,
you know you can find me on Instagram at Jackies neo.
For those of you who remember, I am permanently banned
(55:19):
from Twitter for telling, you know, telling a white man
who said this country is still the greatest country on
the planet and everybody should be lucky to live here,
for tweeting that out after the after the shooting um
Elementary the day of hours after, and I tweeted, by
(55:41):
the way, madis like the neo lib king of the media,
and so I tweeted back to him, I hope you
stop your toe every day and your knees always hurt,
and I hope you always have a piece of hair
stuck in your throat. And apparently that was a bridge
too far for Twitter, and I permanently got banned. So
(56:03):
fucking sane, Uh so Twitter, I don't have a tweet
that I like, but I will say this, first of all,
if you're watching Physical season two, check it out. I'm
in it. Comedian Feud in l A check that out
Family Feuds Family Fu. Yeah. Uh, this coming show is
with nikolebay Or and Paul Sheer, Jamie Loftus, the queen
(56:27):
of Zeitgeist, well Paul Sheer versus Nicole Bayer. Uh, they
have their own teams, and Jamie Loftus is doing stand
up and I am the host of the show. And uh,
one wonderful night. It's gonna be a great night. It's
gonna be a great night. It always is. It's always fun.
Five people from naudi Is get a chance to play
the winners of the two main captains, and uh, I
(56:50):
just want to give a special shout out, not to
bring it down, but I'm not gonna say any names
because I don't know if they want their business out
there on like you know, the air waves. But I
have two friends, both in her early thirties, one who
just got diagnosed with breast cancer and the other one
who just found out she has a brain to humor
within a week of each other, and uh, it was
(57:11):
a pretty rough week for that friend circle. You know,
I got faith that everything will be okay, but I
just you want to say, you know, hug your friends, man,
Hug your friends. Hu, Hug your loved ones. Let them
know you care about them, because you just never know, man,
you know, So I just want to give some some
special love and some some some thoughts to those two
(57:32):
dope as individuals who just had their worlds a little
rocked um in the past week. So shout out to y'all. Yeah,
alright now, I will follow that with a very tweet
that I've been enjoying. Yeah, and not give us a tweet.
You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore Brian
enjoying tweets such as this one please be g n
(57:55):
e I s s tweeted therapy isn't enough. I need
to be allowed to bite people. And Katie at Skadi
four twenty tweeted you think Sigma and Freud's friends where ever,
like hey man, shut the funk up? Think yeah, probably right,
like constantly. Maybe that's why he had to create his
(58:18):
own discipline where he could just like talk to strangers ceaselessly. Anyways,
You can find us on Twitter at Daily zich Geist,
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we link off to the information that we talked about
in today's episode, as well as a song that we
(58:39):
think you might enjoy, Uh, super producer justin, do you
have a song recommendation that you would like to share
with the people? Sure? Um, this one's gonna be a
little bit different than the ones I normally recommend. This
is from a New York band called Wet. This song
called Old Bone. This is the Jimmy's Back remix. It's
(59:01):
a really chill song. The drum patterns will really take
you away to a place that will ease the stress
of the of the news cycle and the crushing, flaming
wheel of chaos were all in at the at the moment.
And so if you want to drift away, enjoy a
nice time, put this thing on. It'll it'll really turn
(59:22):
your brain off for a little bit. So that's Old
Bone the Jimmy Stack remix by Wets, and you can
find that in the footnotes. Hell, you know, by the way,
I just remembered a fact I learned back when I
was editing that cracked that Uh, Sigmund Freud when he
was like out of his mind on cocaine, when he
invented like his talking cure as he called it, and
(59:45):
the person he like credits with like being part of
those first like talking Sessions died of a cocaine overdose,
like not not that long afterwards, so cocaine, Like it
sounds like a like cartoon version of history, but like
that is really he just got really high on cocaine,
couldn't stop talking like everybody I've ever encountered who was
(01:00:07):
really high on cocaine, and then was like everybody should
feel this way, and then we have a psychiatry. Anyways,
go check out that song. The Daily zykis in production
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On Purpose with Jay Shetty
I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
Ding dong! Join your culture consultants, Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang, on an unforgettable journey into the beating heart of CULTURE. Alongside sizzling special guests, they GET INTO the hottest pop-culture moments of the day and the formative cultural experiences that turned them into Culturistas. Produced by the Big Money Players Network and iHeartRadio.
Crime Junkie
Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.