January 17, 2023 • 61 mins
In episode 1402, Jack and Miles are joined by writer, comedian, and co-host of The Bechdel Cast, Caitlin Durante, to discuss… What DeSantis and the GOP Get Wrong About the Culture Warzzz, The Rick and Morty Guy Was Arrested For Domestic Assault... 2 Years Ago, Twitter Employees In Singapore Were Thrown Out Because Elon Stopped Paying Rent, Ben Affleck Is Apparently Working For Dunkin’ and more!
- What DeSantis and the GOP Get Wrong About the Culture Warzzz
- The Rick and Morty Guy Was Arrested For Domestic Assault... 2 Years Ago
- Twitter Employees In Singapore Were Thrown Out Because Elon Stopped Paying Rent
- Twitter Employees Escorted Out of Singapore Office
- Twitter sued for $136,000 in overdue rent at San Francisco office as Musk's wealth shrinks
- What’s Gone at Twitter? A Data Center, Janitors, Some Toilet Paper.
- Ben Affleck Is Apparently Working For Dunkin’
- Why Were Ben Affleck and J. Lo at Dunkin Donuts?
- WELCOME TO DUNKIN'... Can I Take Your Order???
- How Ben Affleck became an accidental Dunkin' influencer
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to seventy one,
episode one of DIR Days I Stay production of I
Heart Radio. This is a podcast where we take a
deep dive into America gets shared consciousness. It's Tuesday, January
seventeen three. Oh man, that's cool. What's up? But just
(00:20):
that day, I'm I'm stalling because I so you just
like saw something problematic. Yeah, it's International Mentoring Day National
Classy Day. For some reason, the image for National Classy
Day is of the late pit white Uh, National Bootleggers Day,
and National Hot Letter run Day. Hot butter that's just
(00:45):
rum and butter day. Is that I always know that
of Like I've heard the term, but that's just what rum,
butter and hot water. I do not need to do
all that for an excuse to like so many of
the drinks back of the day. We're like, but this
one's healthy. It's like just an excuse to drink rum
(01:06):
in the morning. This one has clarified milk in it.
You're like, have you ever seen that I had one?
Like good for your proteins? Oh yeah, no, clarified milk punch.
It was like a real it's a real thing. The
clarified milk. Just like when the milk curdles and separates,
you pulled the clear part out. There's like a process
to clarify the milk. It's kind of wild like it's
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it's a very in depth. It did a milk clear
before pepsi did pepsi crystal pepsi. That did a crystal
milk in a way, crystal clear pepsi was biting off
the clarified milk punch trying damn yesteryear think about it. Well,
my name is Jack O'Brien, a K potatoes O'Brien, a
k tater's obing bung and I'm thrilled to be joined
(01:48):
as always buy. My co host Mr Miles Grad said,
don't speak. It's raised, is what you're saying. Pop, please
stop while it's playing in don't tell me your diverse.
Don't speak is raised is what you're saying. And your
foods and season don't tell me your diverse. Okay, thank
(02:14):
you so much. Southcore jolly to that. Don't speak so
jolly killing it as of late. You know, people, this
is this is there's so much energy in this discord
with these listeners. You know what I mean that I
planned to join soon, okay, waiting, it's in the plans.
Good good, good Miles. Enough fucking around. We're thrilled to
(02:34):
be joined in our third seat by one of the
great t DZ guests. A very talented writer, stand up comedian,
podcast host of I Don't Know The Backdown Cast, which
takes down the patriarchy one movie at a time. Also
happens to have a master's degree in film and the
most anagrammable name in the English language. So depending on
(02:56):
whether you've been given their name in an assortment of
scrabbled tile, you may know her as Latin dancer U
T I nine tip Dracula, but in our hearts she
will always be the Durantula. Caitlin Duranta. What an introduction
that I have to ruined by saying I do not
(03:17):
have a new alagram this time we to Durantula. Yeah, sure,
what do you think of the So that was a
nickname that everybody wanted to give to the NBA player
Kevin Durant and he was just like, no things. Oh
he I thought that that name stuck. I mean people
say it, but he he was like, I'd rather not
(03:37):
if you don't, Because he was like Caitlin much better.
I don't even have a fucking associates degree in watching TV?
How am I going to step into that? Yes? And
I give off such spider like vibes. What are what
are those arachnid vibes you give off? I'm trying. I'm
(04:00):
trying to pinpoint him. Prickly silence, prickly exterior, prickly interior.
Everything in my house is covered in cobwebs. So many eyes,
so many just up in a corner, just chilling in
the top corner of the room, just like to the corner. Yeah,
and when you start moving, I do get goose flesh,
(04:22):
just like the way. There's something uncanny about the way
you move that gives me goose bumps. It's like a
video that's called that track. I like the way you move,
but it's just a highlight tape of spiders moving. Yeah,
I don't know, that's just for us. You don't like spiders. Wow,
you had a reaction right there. I I picked. I
(04:42):
just pictured a bunch of spiders moving, like spiders are
the coolest thing to like re remember exist and like
watching nature documentary on and like you know, or like
I guess another way to put that would be get
(05:03):
high and watch a nature documentary about but like just
just hitting your brain all over again, and it's like, wow,
it's so weird that these like if if they didn't exist,
like it would take the greatest mind in horror film
to to invent conceive it. So they're like such great hunters.
(05:24):
Why do they have so many eyes? Why so many legs?
But yeah, they're so good at killing things. They're like,
pound for pounds, the best at killing things in on
the planet. And they're also the scariest looking thing. I
love that. I love that for them. I love that
for them. It's just there is there's a limit some
somewhere too freaky and you gotta be like, I'm sorry,
(05:45):
you can't be in here. Others I'm like, let it rock,
such as tarantulas, because little spiders are creepy enough, then
you have ones that are the size of your hand.
You did you know kids that had pet tarantulas. I
felt that was like a specific kind of kid, Like
I need two kids that were like tarantula havers, and
(06:05):
they were they were both boy scouts and like one
joined the military and the other almost joined the military. Right, Yeah,
I only knew my man Buzz from from Holone Home Alone. Yeah,
well in real life, but Daniel Stern, the scene where
he has a tarantula put on his face, Yeah, you
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could not pay me any amount of money. Like he's
the best actor in Hollywood for when the Eyes Crossing.
That really gets from me, and like living in that one,
he's never been the same since. I wonder if, like
anyone who went into like read or audition for that
role they were like, Okay, just so you know you
(06:49):
you're going to have a tarantula put on your face,
and they like that's how they evaluated, right, or if
they're just like you're hired. And also by the way,
a tarantula is going on your face, and then he
had to come to terms with that role. Was originally
cast as Daniel day Lewis, then it went to de Niro,
then it went to Pacino and they all said no
to the tarantula. So that's how they ended up with Stern. Yeah,
(07:11):
the bottom of the list. I mean, I wonder if
that's something you have to be upfront with a certain
people that are like, look, I'm cool with full frontal
nudity or whatever, but I don't funk with spiders. I
do not do spiders. I do not do spiders. Don't
even send me on a spider audition. Yeah, I don't
care how much money they make. All right, Caitlyn, We're
gonna get to know you a little bit better at
the moment. First, we're gonna tell our listeners a couple
(07:33):
of the things we're talking about today. We're going to
talk about Ronda Santis and just the latest on I
think after he was the one big part the highlight
of the non existent red wave the mid terms, everyone
was like, this is the future of the Republican Party
because he gets the culture war right. He does it right,
(07:56):
this guy. So we're gonna just look look at that,
check the record on that one. We are going to
check the record on the Rick and Morty guy, justin Royland,
who is a predator and horrible person, and we've known
that for a couple of years, but they're like just
now reporting it, it seems like. So we'll talk about that.
(08:18):
We'll talk about what's going on at the Twitter office
and Singapore. We're gonna talk about Ben Affleck working for
Dunkin Donuts like at the drive thru. We'll talk about
that plenty more. But first, Caitlin, we do like to
ask our guest, what is something from your search history.
I just googled mythological sea creatures, specifically creatures question mark
(08:45):
three questions. Please don't be real, Please don't be real.
We already have spiders I can't deal with because I'm
writing a pie. It Wow, so brave, so cool of
me to do, and um, it's a fantasy show because
(09:09):
they're all the rage right now. And I realized I
know a bunch of mythological land creatures. But I was like,
what about the c one you got Mermaids? Okay, hold
let me try and think. Okay, mermaid I'm trying to
even think. But also like mermaids are like half humans,
so I don't even know if I would count that
like a cracking I think is the only thing I
(09:31):
could crack. And I got like, I know, there's like
the sea serpent that is like the it was basically
an oar fish. They saw on ar fish and we're like,
that's gotta be a fucking monster, right basically correct. Yeah,
this is the episode where I just repeatedly tell you
that I believe in monsters. They're and then I'm blown
(09:55):
away by nature documentary. Wait, so what are the what
are the other ones? Yeah, because I too would have
to google this. Well, sirens, yes, but don't sirens kind
of take on a human form or do they? Yeah? Right? Um,
so I wouldn't specifically like very animal like ones. And
(10:17):
there was a small list. I didn't recognize any of
the names except for the crack In and then I
didn't look into it further because I decided, wait a minute,
this is fantasy. I can make my own ship. So
then I just invented a bunch of mythological sea creatures.
Man imagine like a trans medium spider. No, I don't know,
(10:40):
but that can like get that can be like yo,
I could get down here, I can get down on land.
It doesn't matter. I don't have to be in one
place like spider. Do not like, do not recommend? They
look like spiders that have been dead for a long time.
Oh like, they're kind of like they're kind of like wormy. No, uh,
(11:01):
spiders with wings? I think, is what? So what are
there are you thinking of any cool stuff? Yeah, it
turns out it's not that important to the show. I
was just being so thorough. Hell you got a world
build that part of it, right, But I did. I
did invent several land critter and you'll just have to
watch my upcoming show. It's definitely going to be made
(11:25):
and go on for eight seasons at least, so be
on the lookout. And you got to catch the first
one because that's yeah, there there is a lot of
lower to these creatures. Yeah, if you jump in episode two,
you might as well just don't bother. It's dense, m
scariest sea animals for me, since you just asked, you
(11:50):
ever seen one of these crabs that are top monsters
number five? Have you ever seen one of these things?
What is? But? What is it? Spider? A small suv? Yeah,
that ship is wild. Also coconut crabs they again, sci
fi monsters exist on Reddy And I saw a clip
(12:12):
of a hermit crab that had used an old abandoned
dolls head as its shows. It was the freakiest picture. Yeah,
like this little dollars. Second, like I am seeing a
photo of an adult man holding a Japanese spider crab
and it's enormous. It's too big, right, The legs are
(12:35):
like six feet long at a minimum, fully extended It's
like Victor Wending Yama Lynx on these sons of bitches,
but is not a basketball player. I only know he
is a Yeah, this is actually helpful because he's going
to be like the most famous person on the planet
in three years. But he's currently seventeen and a French
(12:58):
basketball player who is like seven ft five and pretty good.
All right, what is something you think is overrated? Caitlin?
I think that almost every Oscar Buzz movie of this
season is overrated. M hmm, okay, did not care for
(13:19):
all the things that are getting awards Buzz your Fableman's
I didn't think it was that good. Yeah, Babylon wasn't
a fan Babylon, Sorry about it. Yeah, I didn't like Babylon.
Babylon hurt me. It was just painful. It was painful.
(13:39):
Uh you got Tar? I was I was it just?
I mean a lot of these things are movies that
I recognize as like well crafted pieces of cinema, but
I guess they just weren't for me. I agree with Tar,
although I feel like I need to watch Tar. Tar
is the only one that I was like, I need
to watch that again because I didn't. I just felt
(14:03):
kind of confused by it, so I need to watch it,
but that is not true top gun Maverick people, it
was all the rage I was. I was somewhat underwhelmed
by Elvis. I thought was frankly a turd. Did you
watch that with us? Did you know? I know I was?
(14:25):
You couldn't come to that? Wow? That was fun, but
holy sh it, but a nightmare. That's truly Avatar I
thought was clunky, but you were an avatar You're you're
an avatar head or no Jamie avatar hood. It's Jamie
more so than me, but I generally the first one,
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despite its many problems. And if you want to hear
about mine and Jamie's opinions on them, as well as
our guest on that episode of The Beckel Cast, Ali Naughty,
you can go over and check that out. But we
don't actually acknowledge other podcasts. Yeah, I'm so sorry. I'm
so sorry. We allow what's a podcast? Yeah, you wouldn't
(15:10):
understand then you've got oh even like Banshees of Ed Shearing,
which Caesar. It won a bunch of Gold Globes recently,
and while I liked it and it's probably my favorite
of this list, of buzzy movies. I don't. I would
(15:32):
not put it as best picture. I think the one
exception or there's a handful of exceptions. Everything Everywhere, All
At Once is probably the first movie that came out
last year, or at least my favorite, and that should
have gotten more recognition. Movie was your favorite movie of
the year. Let me tell you why, Everything Everywhere, All
at Once? Isn't that great? Talking about people who have
(15:55):
those takes where they can't just be like, yeah, man,
that was a fun That was the best thing I saw.
I'm not that everyone has to conform to that opinion,
but you see people battle like they're just embrace of
it too differentiate, but yeah, yeah, people love to be contrarian,
and so do I. Yeah, actually you don't that much.
I try. I think that was maybe contrarian here, Oh funny,
(16:22):
got your ass? Just just admit real quick that I
got your a. Uh Ever, since his kid pantsed him
at the grocery trying to reclaim his dominance, can we
just admit it and get it over with around? Okay?
Is this leading up to an underrated That? Were it?
(16:47):
Unless you have other other awards favorites that no, So
those are the main ones, everything everywhere else once good,
but everything else kind of overrated. What is something that
you think is underrated? Kate, Okay, it's another movie, Puss
in Boots, The Last Bear. I heard it was really
(17:08):
intense Rocks And every person I say that to their like, really,
are you sure about that? And I'm like, I'm I
have a master's degree in screenwriting. Yeah, I'm sure it's
well done. It is well done at least I saw
the first forty five minutes and it became too scared
from my both my four year old and six year old.
When when Goldilocks and the Three Bears get involved and
(17:30):
they are just their presence in the movie is like Antons,
sugar in no Country like that. It's just like they
they are a force of nature that is coming. And
I think it's stressed my kids out a little too much.
So is a little bit more adult than your average
(17:51):
children family movie. Yeah, yeah, but it's so it exists
in the Shrek universe. It's very Shrek fan. Yeah, and yeah,
I mean the animation style is very similar to the
animation in Spider Man Into the Spider Verse, which is
(18:11):
one of my favorite movies of all time. So it's
visually really cool. The story is just like tight and solid,
and it has good themes and messaging, and the characters
are fun and and it's put some boots What can
I say? My my kids did it left an impression?
I'll say that because we've had the conversation where they
(18:33):
make me tell them all of the ways he died.
So it's a lot about mortality. So he is on
his the premises he is on his ninth final life
miles and so he has to go to a retirement
home and like just like back away because he can't
be a cat of adventure when he only has one
one life left to live. But they do a quick,
(18:56):
very fun run through of all the ways he's died,
and that blew my kids fucking minds man there and
then they kept being like, okay, so what was the
third way? Puts in bootsie? What was the fifth? And
like they were disappointed that I didn't like have this
committed to memory immediately, So am I Jack? You got
(19:22):
one of the ways he died was that the running
of the bulls, And then I had to explain to them,
like why people do that? And then they were that
there's no good explanation for that. But you've even been
to a fun Yeah, so you couldn't even you couldn't
even lead, Like, let me tell you a little bit
about Yeah, I got I still couldn't yeah connected them
because some people, you know, they want to feel alive
(19:45):
by almost being dead, Like what what do you mean? Anyways?
Al Right, well, I'm glad to know that that has
entered the cannon with you know, I'm not I'm not
saying it's on the level of Paddington two or you know,
some of the Shrek movies, but it's history will determine that.
But it is good. I always love a good Caitlin Durante.
(20:09):
Like this movie that's being slept on and thought of
as a non serious children's movie is actually needs its
own criterion collection. Yea, yeah, all right, let's take a
quick break. We'll be right back, and we're back. So
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one of the big stories in the mainstream media, the
big assumptions that everybody's going with that I'm sure is
probably wrong in some ways, that like Trump's over and
de Santis seems to be their chosen successor, the man
who's going to lead the conservative movement going forward. Look,
how good he did in last election, and he owned
(20:59):
us in culture war the end. That's it. He knows
how to win the culture wars. He knows how to
own the Libs and that and that's that's exactly why
people vote for him because they don't care about what
their actual lived experiences. They just want him to make
Libs go like no. So you know a lot of
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it again, they say, it's this, this this strength of
picking battles of cold the culture war to engage in.
And you know the fact that he goes after public
education for being to woke, or that his policies are
meant to dehumanize like LGBTQ people is like the reason
for him doing so well in the state, and that
further resonates with the country because he's doing the culture
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war right, is kind of the thinking like and that
can extend to everywhere because this this gets everybody going.
We've seen it in these town hall meetings and things
like that. So yeah, a few things, yes, he did well,
but that isn't because he decided to be like a
vile human. If you look at some of the down
ballot races, the message that kids are being groomed to
like take a dump in a sandbox isn't like a
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winner at all, like in reality, you know, when you
look at certain areas, Like there's a school board election
result that showed just how unpopular it was to ban
books and bullying gay and transgender kids in Polk County,
where he won almost six of the vote, like, which
was five points better than in the state. But if
you when you look down in that county, four Republican
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school board candidates, including one of de Santis has chosen,
they collectively took less than forty seven percent of the
vote against their Democrat and nonpartisan opponents. So that's like
like you're starting to see like it's not quite moving
the needle in this gigantic way. And then in November,
huge like you know, with a very Republican electorate, they
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voted down this like pro censorship dark money back to
Republican school board candidate with fifty six percent supporting her
opponent who was a public school advocate. So people were like, oh,
this person who's going all in on it, were like, yeah,
maybe the person who's like, we need like properly funded schools,
so like the buildings aren't like in ill condition, you know,
(23:03):
like that kind of stuff seemed to work more even
with a heavily Republican area. And I don't want your
I don't want buildings to fall down on you and
your children. Who bring it down on me, now bury
me alive. I will survive. And you know, like you
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look even around this like the country. Right in West Virginia,
they voted down a constitutional amendment that like they're like,
these Republicans are like, look, give us to like, you know,
give us more power to enact all kinds of draconian
school policies like that. There's like a billy to be like,
let the legislature just run wild with it. They were
like nah. And then other states which are definitely more blue,
(23:48):
like there were many there were much bigger increases to
school funding that people were embracing. So not to say
that these kinds of candidates weren't winning, But it's not
like the Santas popularity. Isn't that he's found this magic
bullet of an argument or like propellant for his campaign.
You know that's going to take it there, Because at
the end of the day, there are a lot of
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people who aren't quite like living in the same existence
as maybe the people who are open mouth taking and
Tucker Carlson propaganda every night mm hmm. And it's it
should be said though too, like millions and millions of
dollars have been spent like on me, like this kind
of messaging and to back these candidates. And again that
(24:29):
like the CRT groom or gospel thing is part of
their ideology, was didn't have quite the impact. I think
many people thought that that it would. And and remember
just last week we covered a story I forget it
feels on trends of the regular episode that people like
political analysts were saying that Biden is pivoting to the
middle and they're big takeaway or like one of the
(24:53):
big bullet points for why he needs to pivot to
the middle is that voters in the mid term last
year rejected the extremes and then they listened a bunch
of right wing extreme talking points and like positions that
they rejected and nothing nothing from the left that was rejected.
But it's just it got like it it's just so
(25:17):
so weird, how you know, And anything like progressive things
like funding public schools that seemed very pular just get
fucking like funding schools, you know what I mean? Funding schools. Yeah,
that's what your communists. More money for a teacher to
teach your kid to read, your fucking weirdo like like
(25:40):
very popular and immediately just gets shut down and you know,
erased in favor of you know, everybody wants to fire
the teachers and you know, just the loudest, craziest talking
right wing talking point that they can find. Yeah, I
mean I think you know, the true power or the
thing that people are actually seeing, isn't that because he's
(26:01):
like the culture war goat. There's like a lot about
his campaign and the infrastructure in in Florida that has
massively helped him. Like in his first run for governor,
they had a gigantic voter registration drive that absolutely just
blue Democrat. There's like three hundred thousand more Republicans now,
like if they found a way to turn as many
Republicans out in Florida. And on top of that, Democrats
(26:24):
have basically seen the writing on the wall and they're like,
all right, so this is an l let's just take
our things and go like we're not gonna there's no
point in doing anything here. So not to say that
they've given up, but the amount of energy going into
registering more Republicans is a huge reason why. Like de
Santis also has an advantage, not specifically just to say
people are turning out because they hate critical race theory.
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It's like they have a numerical advantage. And at the
end of the day, some of these policies aren't quite
resonating in the same way. So this is just this
is just like education, right, the Republicans in the House
are now like wanting to go after abortion again, even
though it was very clear that this was a losing proposition,
like there's there's these lessons aren't quite connecting for everybody
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that it's like, Okay, let's see if we can kind
of start chumming those waters again to see what what
will be good there. And I think this is something
that Democrats need to pay attention to, like not getting
necessarily bogged down in these culture war battles, just be
proactive and speak to what Americans are actually worried about,
Like I think most parents aren't being like are there sandboxes?
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And are people being told about slavery? Sorry say litter boxes? Yeah,
whatever it is, And like more so, are the school
is well funded? And can my kid get a decent
education and is it a relatively safe place. Those seem
to rank much higher first for parents, even in polling
than things like parental choice to like stop like to
(27:51):
keep this kind of indoctrination out of our schools. And
it's the same way that like that's what you know,
that's a very easy thing to be saying as a
platform policy for amocrats be like, yeah, school is more funded,
you get a better education, so you have, you know,
a decent shot at surviving in this fucked up system.
And also things like saying, you know, reproductive rights are
(28:12):
human rights. Those are winners. So to think that, like,
oh god, what do we do, just keep you know,
focus on what a regular person cares about, not sort
of getting completely caught up in like the Tucker Carlson
commentary of it all, which again sways a lot of
like the donor and elected official class, but there's a
(28:34):
lot of polling analysis of like how much those concerns
actually go down to like the working class voters in
each party. He also seems to be like in the
way that Trump is singularly able to do what Trump does,
like he seems to be able to like I think
there's a thing that happens in political journalism, where they
(28:58):
assume that some one thing that works for one person
is going to work repeatedly for And I think it
happens probably even more so in the world of like
political strategists, and that that whole massive industry that could
just as well disappear tomorrow and the world would be
(29:18):
a better place. But the the this idea that like, well,
the people are learning from De santists and then everybody's
gonna do that, And it's like, well, I think it
works for de Santis because he is somebody who is
you know, has all these educational like bona fides and
(29:39):
then pretends to believe all the crazy ship And then
with a lot of these other politicians, the fact that
the thing they're saying is objectively like suggests that they
are unstable and that that is a big turn off
for people. So like, I don't know, I feel like
he's able to pull it off better er than other
(30:00):
people because he's like has there there's something about him
that is like boring, But then he's also able to
like make it sound like it's coming from a place
that's grounded and he's lying, Like I don't like he
doesn't believe it. He's just opportunistically pretending that he believes
this bullshit. But I I don't know that always gets
(30:24):
erased from it like that that this is maybe he's
just like a singular person who's able to project the
very specific thing that is needed for these positions that
are objectively very scary because they're crazy and hateful, like
people are able to get around that with him and
almost nobody else him and Trump essentially, it makes sense
(30:47):
to me that he's able to do this and nobody
else is because he's an individual person who has a
good political campaign behind him and a lot of money
and ship and yeah, just like yeah, extremely well fund
extremely careful, and he is smart and shrewd about how
how he does it. So that that's another thing that
(31:09):
I feel like it's removed from it, And it's just
the mainstream media's interest is to create as much news
as possible around this stuff, and the information I think
is a lot simpler than they want it to be
in the long rum, which is, like like you said,
people just want the thing that's going to be best
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for them and their family, and you know they will
only support these positions that suggest that they are like,
that's suggest just a hateful, kind of chaotic, crazy world.
If the person is either you know, projecting a sense
(31:50):
of competency beyond what you get from your mtgs or whatever,
or if they are like a cult of personality like Trump.
Otherwise it's just not going to work, Like if you
just like those are two somewhat simple ideas that I
I think people aren't going to say on CNN because
(32:11):
it doesn't allow you to just like scream. And also
that there's something fun and enraging and exciting about this
idea that like everyone around you was crazy past the
country's crazy and they all want you to die. And
it's like, yeah, I think like to your point, he's
he's doing it really well because like the calm that
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he projects, and also he's at a position that's high
enough that makes the threats that he makes like tangible.
You know, you can only do so much screaming as
a candidate. You're like, oh, just wait untill I do this.
But Rond de Santis can be like here's the stop
woke act, here's this, here's that, here's that, and people
are like, oh my gosh, and not to mention too
(32:53):
like when those storms hit Florida. He was very quick
to work with Joe Biden to like get things going
back again. The people who live in the state, they're
probably responding more to like, man, all right, the storm
came through. We're starting to see clean up. People are
getting compensated for like the work they did. Like this
feels like it's functioning. But I think that's like his
appeal is that, like Trump, he he occupies a position
(33:14):
legislatively that allows him to like really make his threats tangible.
And I think that's what makes him the most like
appealing for a lot of these other people across the
country because they're like, oh, this guy talks to talk
and he's legislating that way. But I think again with
the analysis, there's a lot to say that he's in
a state that's becoming heavy, like becoming becoming red, and
(33:36):
he has a huge infrastructure advantage, and he's got a
lot of money. Those things also helped a lot to
keep you up in the polls and keep you winning. Yeah,
he's being supported by the powers of being the Republican Party,
like but behind the scenes in a way that it
makes sense to me that he's going to appear to
have a lot of things break his way in the
(33:57):
coming years and months. So and And has already been
in that possession for a while now because I think
they've given up on the chaos of what would it's
like to have Trump at the head. They don't learn,
So we'll see, we can see we've never seen before.
But all that to say, there's a lot of room
(34:19):
for people to make arguments that are just appealing to
normal people's needs and concerns. Yeah, Like I always thought
it was weird that the fact that this was wasn't
this like the deadliest storm in Florida since like in
in a hundred years, But like that didn't really get
played up that much. I feel like the media imprint
of the storm was not not that Like it wasn't
(34:44):
that big a deal. And I feel like, I don't
I don't know why that was the case. Like that.
That's always made me like wonder, like, are they is
the mainstream media just sort of kind of on board
like that that would have been an incovenient fact for
for de Santis, you know, somebody who's like a climate denier.
But I think that's where they don't. I mean, we've
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seen the media is like just woefully unprepared to actually
discuss climate change as it relates to things and connect
the dots, Like we're getting more unprepared to connect the
dots on that as it's becoming more of a reality,
because I think there's probably a bigger and bigger investment
going into making it seem like it's not the reality
(35:27):
of the situation. I have something really smart to say, Storm.
I was thinking Torrential downpours Tarantulas. There's a bee disaster movie. Yeah,
right there, Spider Storm, torrent Torrential. The only thing I
(35:49):
disagree with is that it's a be movie. I think
you that oscar bait and it would be better than
everything we've seen this year, thank you. I would probably
with the Spiders raining down movie. Did say talk about
how Florida's turning red? That did make me want to
ask the question, what do you think of that movie
which came out? Oh it did? I It came out
(36:10):
so early in the year that I keep forgetting to
associated with. I did rather like it. It was it
was very it was great, but also like didn't come
out it just it came out on Disney Plus, right,
they didn't drop it. That was in March too. I
was like, what was that January? It was March. They
really that's a good one though. That's the good Turning
(36:33):
Red and Florida the bad Turning Red. But not to
say there's you know, nothing to work for down there.
But it's just kind of I think it's just the
way the media is like, or you know, conservative pundits
are like, and it's all because he hates wokeness. It's like, like, no,
that's not that's not all it is. That's that's just
the thing that's fun for you to cover, and that
(36:53):
is the easiest to generate a bunch of stories on
and by covering it that way, you are playing correctly
into his hands. Hey, speaking of Rick the Crypt co
creator of Rick and Morty, justin Royland is a fucking
creep and a known creep for a while now, but
it's just getting picked up in the mainstream media. He
(37:14):
was charged with domestic violence, false imprisonment by menace, violence,
fraud and or deceit stemming from a arrest. He has
had like multiple court dates on this subject. And since
what's that that that's probably be in the public docket
for people you know that you've been in court for something. Yeah,
(37:37):
and since that hit and like, as you know, it's
been the subject of more than a dozen court hearings,
it was not being reported and Justin Royland continued to
thrive in the industry, making over one point six five
million with fucking n f t s. So you know,
he's cool selling a painting at South Abes, launching a
video game, and creating multiple new animated shows, presumably about
(38:01):
characters with screechy voices as yeah again, can we all
just admit that I got his ass? And then but yeah,
and then that so now that they're like, okay, so
we are acknowledging that this happened. Some of the people
that he's victimized, like dozens of people have come forward
to share their own stories about his predatory and inappropriate behavior,
(38:26):
or in some cases reshare because they'd already posted them
in the past. But bigoted behavior in the workplace and
predatory behavior like grooming of fifteen year old fans of
Rick and Morty. So cool. It's yeah, wild that it's
like something like this like two years ago, right, it's
(38:47):
that something like this happens is known. But then I'm sure,
like so many stories we've read like whether it's like
Harvey Weinstein or other people in the industry, like sometimes
like we kind of need to reach a critical mass
of victims to be able to then say it's a problem,
because if it's just a couple, then it's like and
then like the fact that that's how it's even like
(39:10):
like analyzed like in an editorial sense, is so fucked
up because in the interim, like you're saying, he's making money,
he's cooking, and he's probably continuing to who knows what
other people have been, you know. I am surprised though,
in the post me Too era, which is when the
story first broke, because it was that it wouldn't have
(39:33):
gotten more attention then that I find fascinating, And I
wonder if it has something to do with the very
famously or infamously toxic fan base of his and of
like Rick and Morty, Like I don't know, if I
don't know, but oh, for sure, this is a this
(39:55):
is fucking draft day for the right wing army, I'm
sure of, like you know, Rick and Morty fans who
have been looking for a reason to be like whoa
cultures out of control? Like you know that we've seen
it all the time, like whether it's the people that
are writing, like the writing staff two decisions that are
(40:18):
fucking Sechuan Sauce remember that ship. I was like, man,
these people, Okay, go ahead, do you but yeah, I
mean it's I feel like another moment too, where there's
I'm sure many people like you're saying, people who have
shared their account before yet disinterested outlets or whatever not
taking the time to like, you know that that and
(40:39):
actually put a story out that would allow some form
of accountability to come. Yeah, alright, let's take a quick break.
We'll come back and talk about what it's like to
work at Twitter right now. Oh no, and we're back.
(41:05):
And just a brief update because Twitter does still have
some employees and the employees who work in their offices
and the companies Asia Pacific headquarters in Singapore this week
were escorted out walked out of the building by the
landlords because Elam Musk stopped paying rent there a while back.
(41:27):
What so, first of all, shout up to the first
cool thing Elon Musk has done ever, which is like
refusing to pay landlords. I guess not the first cool
thing ever. It's electric vehicles are definitely but he didn't,
but he didn't. He just hostibly took took over that business.
But like inventing a persona where he's like the Tony
(41:48):
Stark of electric electric vehicles is probably useful in the
long run. It's just he turned that into being the
shittiest version of that possible. But anyways, he just doesn't
pay for their rent. So everybody h is now being
invited to work remotely? That's cool? Again? This how cool
(42:11):
is this guy does? Says fun the landlords, let's everybody
work remote. I may have said some wrong stuff reallier
being like you guys better get in here for some FaceTime.
But yeah, like so what what what? What? How do
how do they even what? Twitter say? That's a good
question Twitter's comment. Let me see if I can find
it here. Oh, they didn't comment on the development because
(42:32):
of course the company no longer has a communications department
to contact for comment. So dude, for d chess right there?
How can I make a comment if I don't even
have the ability to do that through formal channels? And
I think, weren't there We're like, didn't people get chased
out of another like in San Francisco or San Francisco, Seattle,
(42:54):
the landlords in San Francisco or suing him for over
a d and thirty six thousand dollars and unpaid rent
because he just stopped he stopped paying rent there. Yeah, yeah,
who's he doing it in like a baller cool way
where he's like fuck you to the man, where you know,
like these landlords who are exploiting you know, everyday people,
(43:17):
and like rents are too high for anyone to feasibly afford.
He's just doing it the way that like billionaires refused
to pay taxes, right, or just someone who absolutely doesn't
have their ship together at all? And just when is
the Guinness Book of World Records records for biggest financial
l taken in the history of mankind? Like, oh, ship
(43:37):
bills here, here's another cool baller move. He was also like,
and also fuck the janitors of the world. So the
reason this might actually come as a relief to some
of these employees is because he stopped paying janitors a
while back and just fired them all, forcing workers to
bring their own toilet paper and have to clean up
(43:58):
their own workplace at these offices where he didn't he
like when he took over, he was like everybody's coming
into the office. You're gonna show me your best code.
It's gonna be like sword Fish. I'm gonna hold a
gun to your head and make you code while you're
getting you dicks on kidding, I've never seen it. That's
(44:21):
that's the first test that John Travolta pus Hugh Jackman
under Yeah, because Hugh jack was supposed to be this hacker. Yeah,
and getting head with a gun to his head, with
gun to his head while I'm trying to hack man,
I'm trying to the version of movie hacking that's like
a cardio vascular like event where you're like having you're
(44:45):
like hacking so hard. He's like, this guy's got the
best hacking fingers in the game. Look at those suckers
who So it's like that scene from Social Network when
they're like they have the like coders around a table
and they have to like chug beer every ten minutes
or every three minutes. It's that dialed up to a
sixty nine. Yeah, hell yeah. I think we all have
(45:09):
to stop and admit that Caitlin got arrass got alright
with that one has officially gotten hasn't been gotten? Got
it all right? Let's talk about an actual cool, famous person.
Ben Affleck. Thank you to go Bro my man too, though,
isn't he he's like been kid shit Yeah, but did
(45:34):
something recently come out with him to No? I think
there's just like the thing that I know about is
like all those videos where he was like, you know,
he was drunk all day all the time, and like
going on press tours and just like being like here,
come here and sit on my lap. A lot of
like female interviewers really uncomfortable. Yeah. Mmmm, is this like
(45:55):
on his way to like the boy, like on the
way down the and he like ended up having to
go to rehab and everything like that continued. No, I think, yeah, no, No,
I think it was part of his you know, struggles
with substances, but not the other way. Those are behind
him in any you know, day at a time. Anyways,
(46:20):
one of the things that he is known for, in
addition to you know, being a creepy interview is being
a Duncan super fan. You know. I think, is he
holding a Duncan frozen Duncan drink in the sad Affleck meme?
Or is that a Starbucks? I can't I can't remember.
I feel like he has a big iced coffee in
(46:41):
the sad affle like the one where he's like in
that doorway. Oh, maybe he's just smoking in that one
that I thought, there's a I feel like where he's
carrying a giant Do you how many sad affleck memes
are there? There's one because the first one that pops
up when you just search sad affleck meme is him
sitting sitting beside Is that Henry Cavill. Oh yeah, that
(47:03):
makes sense because it's probably Batman v. Superman and he's
just like then there's the one in his towel like
looking out at the sea with his Oh okay, I
think I'm looking at the one. Okay, so it's him.
He's like grimacing, he's he's like holding way more than
(47:26):
he's able to comfortably. As far as Duncan, it's a
Dunkin Donuts. It's Duncan munchkins. It's like three iced coffees.
He has a shirt that says like believe in Boston
on it. It's the most Boston photo I've ever seen
in my life. Anyways, he's he is now creating the opposite,
(47:52):
the polar opposite of the sad Affleck means he went
and just worked dunkin Donuts drive through. We we don't
know what we're assuming this is like part of a
fucking Super Bowl commercial of some dude. There's no way
some fucking celebrities like you know what. I want to
humble myself and work a service job for a while,
(48:14):
just to see what that's like. Like I feel that
this isn't this isn't this content. It has to be
like this. There has to be content. I really hope
for him, for us as a society that it's not
and that this is just a thing that he's doing
and like out of a sense of like I don't know,
like there when when you go back there. There's that
(48:37):
book that I talked about, a Dawn of Everything that
looks back at a bunch of civilizations like in America before,
like pre Colombian America's, and one of the things that
they find that these civilizations would do repeatedly is they
would have like they would change so like one person
would be designated as like the ruler for a year,
(49:00):
but then they would spend a couple of weeks doing
like cleaning out the ship of everybody else like that.
There was there was no permanence to the status in
any of these civilizations, and like it, it feels like
they all came on this. I came upon this idea
because like that's that's a great idea, like to undercover Boss,
(49:23):
but like real actually like not for the cameras, but
like actually undercover boss the ship out of our civilization
so that like nobody is permanently anything, and you don't
get to stay and like people, people who were like
viewed as leaders were viewed inherently with distrust, and if
they tried to stay leader for like more than six months,
(49:45):
everyone's like the funk out of here, like your Yeah.
So I don't know, I think I think we need
more of this built into our civilization, where you know,
somebody who is two thousand and eight an Affleck is
now somebody you could actually just like pass in the
drive through and be like, oh ship Affleck, Yeah, you
(50:08):
were that sucked up my Coolatta Hey, asked neck, you
funked up my drink? They get back in there, got
his ass. He looks so happy in these pictures. Quick question,
Quick question, was Jlo around? J Lo was there too?
And that is why we know it is content. I mean,
(50:30):
I don't know, So it's either it's either straight up
content or it's the weirdest ship. And she's like, I
don't know, this is cool. She's like, I don't know.
I'm worried about him. I just want to keep my
eye on him. Maybe he's researching for a role. Yeah,
I think that's a that could be. And he's like, man,
so he's like playing somebody who works at a Duncan
(50:51):
drive through and and he insists that the script be
adjusted to where everyone's just like so happy to see
you every time they get to the window and they're like, oh, ship,
you're ben Affleck. I mean, I'm reading the script and
it's just not really connecting like this this guy who
works to drive to it sounds like he's he's not
appreciated by others and it and it's really a sad time.
(51:11):
But everything I've experienced was fantastic. You were so kind.
This is really connecting to react. Yeah, And like he
never gives them their money back when they try to
pay for their drink like I did when I was
because that's apparently what he was doing. He's like, Nah,
you don't not You're not paying me for their duncan order.
(51:34):
It's on it's on the house, it's on the affleck,
it's on the c suite. Yeah. But anyways, j Lo
was there too, working or just you know, we don't
know what a lot of questions would never do that,
she won't let a show fur look her in the eye,
you know what I mean. I have started to see, yeah,
(51:56):
like things on Twitter where people are like, man, every
single one of when you ask like somebody who's worked
in the entertainment industry for a while, like rudest celebrity
you've ever met, they were like the answer is always
the same. I'm not going to say who it is.
But then everyone in the comments like j Lo jo. Yeah.
One woman was like, my dad is a chauffeur, Like
(52:18):
he's a driver in Chicago and like would drive celebrities
like part of like a you know, like one of
those services that a lot of like higher up people use.
And she was saying like, yeah, you know, I know
that she doesn't look people in the eye or it
doesn't like people to look her in the eye, because
I remember my dad caught eyes with her in the
rear view mirror and he was scolded for looking at her.
When he was just like looking in his mirrors, and
(52:38):
they're like, so that's the kind of person we're talking about.
Don't even cast your gaze upon me, which thing that's cool?
That's cool. Yeah, I think that is cool that But
I do it. I do it the reverse way, which
is I'm not going to cast my eyes on anyone
because I'm just too in my own head at the moment. Yeah.
Now I'm bad with eye contact for sure. I just
(52:59):
don't get You can be in Made in Manhattan about
a working class woman who, like I don't even remember
the plot, she like pretends to be rich and then
Baltimort starts dating her and some other stuff happens. But
how could you can't be in that movie? And then
(53:24):
look what I'm saying is she should work at dunkin
Donuts Just to remember exactly, Yes, you started from humble beginnings.
You you survived a terrible trip into the Amazon looking
for anaconda where most people you knew died, and you
came back with your life and you still, Wow, there's
(53:45):
grat You've got to find things to be grateful about,
j LO. Yeah, thank you, Troy the way, speaking of
a terrible trip through the Jungle, just saw The Lost City?
Did your children get too scared forty five minutes? Yes,
my children in quotes got too scared, absolutely pissed themselves.
(54:08):
But me, Jack, I was so I was not scared
at it is a bad moment, A bad movie with
great moments. I will say that I completely agree. Yeah,
and I'm not even so so strongly in the bad
movie category. It's I don't know. Yeah, that's what I
turn on a movie for it. Give it gave me
(54:28):
all that got a three point three and the ability
to check out fifty minutes in and be like, I
probably don't need to watch the rest of this. I
think I got everything like this is Bowen Yang has
a great cameo. Petty Harrison is wonderful. There's a great cameo. Yeah,
all around good m hm alright, Caitlin Durante Durantula, thank you.
(54:54):
It's been such a pleasure having you. Where can people
find you? Follow you all that stuff? You can follow
me on Instagram, Twitter, oops, and TikTok I do TikTok now?
And what can I do on TikTok? Yeah? Is me
re editing the endings of iconic movies to to make them.
(55:20):
Let's just say I make them a little bit more
shrekky in. Oh. So that's a big project I'm marking on.
And of course you can listen to the Bechtel Cast
that I co host with Jamie Loftus and we analyze
movies through an intersectional feminist lens. One of the great
(55:41):
podcasts out there is if it does indeed exist. We're
not we're not fully willing to acknowledge that other podcasts exist,
but let's say that it does and in a hypothetical
universe where other podcasts exist, it's one of the greats. Yeah, yeah,
it's in Speaking of Ben Affleck, we are uh soon
to be releasing an episode on Armageddon in which maybe
(56:05):
Ben Afflick's greatest work of all time is his DVD
commentary Yeah, where he's just I think probably a little
drunk and just telling the absolute truth the whole time. Yeah,
like getting Michael Bay's a got his as Ben got
his ad. Yeah he is that where he tells the
(56:27):
story where he was like, so I asked him, like,
wouldn't it be easier to teach astronauts how to be
oil refiners than to teach oil refiner Like workers how
to be astronauts, and Michael's response was, then shut the
funk up. That's exactly what happened. Yeah, none of my face.
(56:47):
I'm gonna go kill a pigeon real quick. Yeah, killed
a pigeon. Anyways, is there a tweet or some of
the work of social media you've been enjoying? Oh yes,
oh yeah, this is from at Alicia Lutus Lutis. I'm
not sure how to say the last name. L U
t e s says movie pitch. Jennifer Coolidge and Owen
(57:11):
Wilson just saying wow at each other. That was the
last week. So like some are just so good because
you can picture it immediately. Yeah, wow, wow wow, really
wow fight between those miles. Where can people find you?
(57:34):
What is the tweet you've been enjoying? Wherever there's at signs?
Look up at miles of grade g R A Y.
I know sometimes people have trouble with that one. You
can also find me and Jack on our basketball podcast.
I moutain jackomen boost these and if in case I
know some people like what are they saying? The name
of the thing is because we go through it all
the time. Miles and Jack got mad Boost these. Check
(57:55):
that out. Also, if you want to hear me talk
about fiance, check out four twenty Day Fiance. Some tweets
at like first. One from Ryan Kennedy at The Ryan
Kve tweeted, funny thing about TV work. You'll have the
worst job ever and at the end they give you
a sweatshirt to remember the experience. You should throw it away,
but it's usually a pretty nice shirt from a brand
you can't afford, so it's forever just this cursed piece
(58:16):
of maddening laundry. Uh Yeah, there's always like you're like, damn,
that's a nice they gave you a north face for that.
They're like, yeah, man, worked my ask to the bone.
Another one from Eve Andrews at e f Andrews tweeted,
I just know in my heart that everyone freaking out
about gas stoves is not actually a good or habitual cook.
And you know what, that's facts. That's how I feel
(58:37):
that too. Okay, probably true, But at the same time,
I don't know, I don't know where I'm just saying
artists doesn't blame their tools, that's right. Oh, you're saying
they're freaking out about like not they're the freak out yeah,
they're like if you if you're freaking out that bad,
it's because you aren't again actually a good or habitual cook,
(58:58):
because you cook enough, you know how to it down
on whatever. Like I thought you meant that. I thought
the tweet meant stop stop hating gas stoves. You're probably
not a good cook and don't know that you need
gas stoves. But it's the opposite. Anyways. You can find
me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien uh tweet I've
(59:19):
been enjoying existential comics tweeted Why are ethics questions always
like is it ethical to steal bread to feed your
starving family? And not? Is it ethical to hoard bread
when families are starving? Yeah, it's a great question. We
should take another look at that. And then Dan just
(59:39):
an all purpose Dan White, one of the one of
my favorite follows on Twitter, that just had a tweet
where he said, so much for just text me if
you ever need anything, and then a screen cap of
a conversation with Mike neighbor Vikings looking good. Yep, hey
can I borrow your gun? It's for a YouTube video.
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link off to the information that we talked about in
today's episode, as well as the song that we think
you might enjoy, Miles, is there a song that you
think people might enjoy? You? Did you? Did you read
the time stamps on those texts? Though? From the Dan
White thing. That's also what makes this so funny because
Mike Kings Looking Good is at two pm yep. Then
(01:00:43):
two thirty eight am, Hey can I borrow your gun?
Then the follow um uh, the song I want to
go out on is by Shy Girl and it's called
Wildfire Shy Girls like a d j mc lyricists. Uh
(01:01:05):
and just like if you like pink panthers and kind
of that, like you know, like light ethereal drum in
base five. This is it? So this is called Wildfire
by Shy Girl. All right, well, we'll link off to
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that day, I'm I'm stalling because I so you just
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Classy Day. For some reason, the image for National Classy
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and National Hot Letter run Day. Hot butter that's just
(00:45):
rum and butter day. Is that I always know that
of Like I've heard the term, but that's just what rum,
butter and hot water. I do not need to do
all that for an excuse to like so many of
the drinks back of the day. We're like, but this
one's healthy. It's like just an excuse to drink rum
(01:06):
in the morning. This one has clarified milk in it.
You're like, have you ever seen that I had one?
Like good for your proteins? Oh yeah, no, clarified milk punch.
It was like a real it's a real thing. The
clarified milk. Just like when the milk curdles and separates,
you pulled the clear part out. There's like a process
to clarify the milk. It's kind of wild like it's
(01:27):
it's a very in depth. It did a milk clear
before pepsi did pepsi crystal pepsi. That did a crystal
milk in a way, crystal clear pepsi was biting off
the clarified milk punch trying damn yesteryear think about it. Well,
my name is Jack O'Brien, a K potatoes O'Brien, a
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(01:48):
as always buy. My co host Mr Miles Grad said,
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Don't speak is raised is what you're saying. And your
foods and season don't tell me your diverse. Okay, thank
(02:14):
you so much. Southcore jolly to that. Don't speak so
jolly killing it as of late. You know, people, this
is this is there's so much energy in this discord
with these listeners. You know what I mean that I
planned to join soon, okay, waiting, it's in the plans.
Good good, good Miles. Enough fucking around. We're thrilled to
(02:34):
be joined in our third seat by one of the
great t DZ guests. A very talented writer, stand up comedian,
podcast host of I Don't Know The Backdown Cast, which
takes down the patriarchy one movie at a time. Also
happens to have a master's degree in film and the
most anagrammable name in the English language. So depending on
(02:56):
whether you've been given their name in an assortment of
scrabbled tile, you may know her as Latin dancer U
T I nine tip Dracula, but in our hearts she
will always be the Durantula. Caitlin Duranta. What an introduction
that I have to ruined by saying I do not
(03:17):
have a new alagram this time we to Durantula. Yeah, sure,
what do you think of the So that was a
nickname that everybody wanted to give to the NBA player
Kevin Durant and he was just like, no things. Oh
he I thought that that name stuck. I mean people
say it, but he he was like, I'd rather not
(03:37):
if you don't, Because he was like Caitlin much better.
I don't even have a fucking associates degree in watching TV?
How am I going to step into that? Yes? And
I give off such spider like vibes. What are what
are those arachnid vibes you give off? I'm trying. I'm
(04:00):
trying to pinpoint him. Prickly silence, prickly exterior, prickly interior.
Everything in my house is covered in cobwebs. So many eyes,
so many just up in a corner, just chilling in
the top corner of the room, just like to the corner. Yeah,
and when you start moving, I do get goose flesh,
(04:22):
just like the way. There's something uncanny about the way
you move that gives me goose bumps. It's like a
video that's called that track. I like the way you move,
but it's just a highlight tape of spiders moving. Yeah,
I don't know, that's just for us. You don't like spiders. Wow,
you had a reaction right there. I I picked. I
(04:42):
just pictured a bunch of spiders moving, like spiders are
the coolest thing to like re remember exist and like
watching nature documentary on and like you know, or like
I guess another way to put that would be get
(05:03):
high and watch a nature documentary about but like just
just hitting your brain all over again, and it's like, wow,
it's so weird that these like if if they didn't exist,
like it would take the greatest mind in horror film
to to invent conceive it. So they're like such great hunters.
(05:24):
Why do they have so many eyes? Why so many legs?
But yeah, they're so good at killing things. They're like,
pound for pounds, the best at killing things in on
the planet. And they're also the scariest looking thing. I
love that. I love that for them. I love that
for them. It's just there is there's a limit some
somewhere too freaky and you gotta be like, I'm sorry,
(05:45):
you can't be in here. Others I'm like, let it rock,
such as tarantulas, because little spiders are creepy enough, then
you have ones that are the size of your hand.
You did you know kids that had pet tarantulas. I
felt that was like a specific kind of kid, Like
I need two kids that were like tarantula havers, and
(06:05):
they were they were both boy scouts and like one
joined the military and the other almost joined the military. Right, Yeah,
I only knew my man Buzz from from Holone Home Alone. Yeah,
well in real life, but Daniel Stern, the scene where
he has a tarantula put on his face, Yeah, you
(06:28):
could not pay me any amount of money. Like he's
the best actor in Hollywood for when the Eyes Crossing.
That really gets from me, and like living in that one,
he's never been the same since. I wonder if, like
anyone who went into like read or audition for that
role they were like, Okay, just so you know you
(06:49):
you're going to have a tarantula put on your face,
and they like that's how they evaluated, right, or if
they're just like you're hired. And also by the way,
a tarantula is going on your face, and then he
had to come to terms with that role. Was originally
cast as Daniel day Lewis, then it went to de Niro,
then it went to Pacino and they all said no
to the tarantula. So that's how they ended up with Stern. Yeah,
(07:11):
the bottom of the list. I mean, I wonder if
that's something you have to be upfront with a certain
people that are like, look, I'm cool with full frontal
nudity or whatever, but I don't funk with spiders. I
do not do spiders. I do not do spiders. Don't
even send me on a spider audition. Yeah, I don't
care how much money they make. All right, Caitlyn, We're
gonna get to know you a little bit better at
the moment. First, we're gonna tell our listeners a couple
(07:33):
of the things we're talking about today. We're going to
talk about Ronda Santis and just the latest on I
think after he was the one big part the highlight
of the non existent red wave the mid terms, everyone
was like, this is the future of the Republican Party
because he gets the culture war right. He does it right,
(07:56):
this guy. So we're gonna just look look at that,
check the record on that one. We are going to
check the record on the Rick and Morty guy, justin Royland,
who is a predator and horrible person, and we've known
that for a couple of years, but they're like just
now reporting it, it seems like. So we'll talk about that.
(08:18):
We'll talk about what's going on at the Twitter office
and Singapore. We're gonna talk about Ben Affleck working for
Dunkin Donuts like at the drive thru. We'll talk about
that plenty more. But first, Caitlin, we do like to
ask our guest, what is something from your search history.
I just googled mythological sea creatures, specifically creatures question mark
(08:45):
three questions. Please don't be real, Please don't be real.
We already have spiders I can't deal with because I'm
writing a pie. It Wow, so brave, so cool of
me to do, and um, it's a fantasy show because
(09:09):
they're all the rage right now. And I realized I
know a bunch of mythological land creatures. But I was like,
what about the c one you got Mermaids? Okay, hold
let me try and think. Okay, mermaid I'm trying to
even think. But also like mermaids are like half humans,
so I don't even know if I would count that
like a cracking I think is the only thing I
(09:31):
could crack. And I got like, I know, there's like
the sea serpent that is like the it was basically
an oar fish. They saw on ar fish and we're like,
that's gotta be a fucking monster, right basically correct. Yeah,
this is the episode where I just repeatedly tell you
that I believe in monsters. They're and then I'm blown
(09:55):
away by nature documentary. Wait, so what are the what
are the other ones? Yeah, because I too would have
to google this. Well, sirens, yes, but don't sirens kind
of take on a human form or do they? Yeah? Right? Um,
so I wouldn't specifically like very animal like ones. And
(10:17):
there was a small list. I didn't recognize any of
the names except for the crack In and then I
didn't look into it further because I decided, wait a minute,
this is fantasy. I can make my own ship. So
then I just invented a bunch of mythological sea creatures.
Man imagine like a trans medium spider. No, I don't know,
(10:40):
but that can like get that can be like yo,
I could get down here, I can get down on land.
It doesn't matter. I don't have to be in one
place like spider. Do not like, do not recommend? They
look like spiders that have been dead for a long time.
Oh like, they're kind of like they're kind of like wormy. No, uh,
(11:01):
spiders with wings? I think, is what? So what are
there are you thinking of any cool stuff? Yeah, it
turns out it's not that important to the show. I
was just being so thorough. Hell you got a world
build that part of it, right, But I did. I
did invent several land critter and you'll just have to
watch my upcoming show. It's definitely going to be made
(11:25):
and go on for eight seasons at least, so be
on the lookout. And you got to catch the first
one because that's yeah, there there is a lot of
lower to these creatures. Yeah, if you jump in episode two,
you might as well just don't bother. It's dense, m
scariest sea animals for me, since you just asked, you
(11:50):
ever seen one of these crabs that are top monsters
number five? Have you ever seen one of these things?
What is? But? What is it? Spider? A small suv? Yeah,
that ship is wild. Also coconut crabs they again, sci
fi monsters exist on Reddy And I saw a clip
(12:12):
of a hermit crab that had used an old abandoned
dolls head as its shows. It was the freakiest picture. Yeah,
like this little dollars. Second, like I am seeing a
photo of an adult man holding a Japanese spider crab
and it's enormous. It's too big, right, The legs are
(12:35):
like six feet long at a minimum, fully extended It's
like Victor Wending Yama Lynx on these sons of bitches,
but is not a basketball player. I only know he
is a Yeah, this is actually helpful because he's going
to be like the most famous person on the planet
in three years. But he's currently seventeen and a French
(12:58):
basketball player who is like seven ft five and pretty good.
All right, what is something you think is overrated? Caitlin?
I think that almost every Oscar Buzz movie of this
season is overrated. M hmm, okay, did not care for
(13:19):
all the things that are getting awards Buzz your Fableman's
I didn't think it was that good. Yeah, Babylon wasn't
a fan Babylon, Sorry about it. Yeah, I didn't like Babylon.
Babylon hurt me. It was just painful. It was painful.
(13:39):
Uh you got Tar? I was I was it just?
I mean a lot of these things are movies that
I recognize as like well crafted pieces of cinema, but
I guess they just weren't for me. I agree with Tar,
although I feel like I need to watch Tar. Tar
is the only one that I was like, I need
to watch that again because I didn't. I just felt
(14:03):
kind of confused by it, so I need to watch it,
but that is not true top gun Maverick people, it
was all the rage I was. I was somewhat underwhelmed
by Elvis. I thought was frankly a turd. Did you
watch that with us? Did you know? I know I was?
(14:25):
You couldn't come to that? Wow? That was fun, but
holy sh it, but a nightmare. That's truly Avatar I
thought was clunky, but you were an avatar You're you're
an avatar head or no Jamie avatar hood. It's Jamie
more so than me, but I generally the first one,
(14:48):
despite its many problems. And if you want to hear
about mine and Jamie's opinions on them, as well as
our guest on that episode of The Beckel Cast, Ali Naughty,
you can go over and check that out. But we
don't actually acknowledge other podcasts. Yeah, I'm so sorry. I'm
so sorry. We allow what's a podcast? Yeah, you wouldn't
(15:10):
understand then you've got oh even like Banshees of Ed Shearing,
which Caesar. It won a bunch of Gold Globes recently,
and while I liked it and it's probably my favorite
of this list, of buzzy movies. I don't. I would
(15:32):
not put it as best picture. I think the one
exception or there's a handful of exceptions. Everything Everywhere, All
At Once is probably the first movie that came out
last year, or at least my favorite, and that should
have gotten more recognition. Movie was your favorite movie of
the year. Let me tell you why, Everything Everywhere, All
at Once? Isn't that great? Talking about people who have
(15:55):
those takes where they can't just be like, yeah, man,
that was a fun That was the best thing I saw.
I'm not that everyone has to conform to that opinion,
but you see people battle like they're just embrace of
it too differentiate, but yeah, yeah, people love to be contrarian,
and so do I. Yeah, actually you don't that much.
I try. I think that was maybe contrarian here, Oh funny,
(16:22):
got your ass? Just just admit real quick that I
got your a. Uh Ever, since his kid pantsed him
at the grocery trying to reclaim his dominance, can we
just admit it and get it over with around? Okay?
Is this leading up to an underrated That? Were it?
(16:47):
Unless you have other other awards favorites that no, So
those are the main ones, everything everywhere else once good,
but everything else kind of overrated. What is something that
you think is underrated? Kate, Okay, it's another movie, Puss
in Boots, The Last Bear. I heard it was really
(17:08):
intense Rocks And every person I say that to their like, really,
are you sure about that? And I'm like, I'm I
have a master's degree in screenwriting. Yeah, I'm sure it's
well done. It is well done at least I saw
the first forty five minutes and it became too scared
from my both my four year old and six year old.
When when Goldilocks and the Three Bears get involved and
(17:30):
they are just their presence in the movie is like Antons,
sugar in no Country like that. It's just like they
they are a force of nature that is coming. And
I think it's stressed my kids out a little too much.
So is a little bit more adult than your average
(17:51):
children family movie. Yeah, yeah, but it's so it exists
in the Shrek universe. It's very Shrek fan. Yeah, and yeah,
I mean the animation style is very similar to the
animation in Spider Man Into the Spider Verse, which is
(18:11):
one of my favorite movies of all time. So it's
visually really cool. The story is just like tight and solid,
and it has good themes and messaging, and the characters
are fun and and it's put some boots What can
I say? My my kids did it left an impression?
I'll say that because we've had the conversation where they
(18:33):
make me tell them all of the ways he died.
So it's a lot about mortality. So he is on
his the premises he is on his ninth final life
miles and so he has to go to a retirement
home and like just like back away because he can't
be a cat of adventure when he only has one
one life left to live. But they do a quick,
(18:56):
very fun run through of all the ways he's died,
and that blew my kids fucking minds man there and
then they kept being like, okay, so what was the
third way? Puts in bootsie? What was the fifth? And
like they were disappointed that I didn't like have this
committed to memory immediately, So am I Jack? You got
(19:22):
one of the ways he died was that the running
of the bulls, And then I had to explain to them,
like why people do that? And then they were that
there's no good explanation for that. But you've even been
to a fun Yeah, so you couldn't even you couldn't
even lead, Like, let me tell you a little bit
about Yeah, I got I still couldn't yeah connected them
because some people, you know, they want to feel alive
(19:45):
by almost being dead, Like what what do you mean? Anyways?
Al Right, well, I'm glad to know that that has
entered the cannon with you know, I'm not I'm not
saying it's on the level of Paddington two or you know,
some of the Shrek movies, but it's history will determine that.
But it is good. I always love a good Caitlin Durante.
(20:09):
Like this movie that's being slept on and thought of
as a non serious children's movie is actually needs its
own criterion collection. Yea, yeah, all right, let's take a
quick break. We'll be right back, and we're back. So
(20:36):
one of the big stories in the mainstream media, the
big assumptions that everybody's going with that I'm sure is
probably wrong in some ways, that like Trump's over and
de Santis seems to be their chosen successor, the man
who's going to lead the conservative movement going forward. Look,
how good he did in last election, and he owned
(20:59):
us in culture war the end. That's it. He knows
how to win the culture wars. He knows how to
own the Libs and that and that's that's exactly why
people vote for him because they don't care about what
their actual lived experiences. They just want him to make
Libs go like no. So you know a lot of
(21:19):
it again, they say, it's this, this this strength of
picking battles of cold the culture war to engage in.
And you know the fact that he goes after public
education for being to woke, or that his policies are
meant to dehumanize like LGBTQ people is like the reason
for him doing so well in the state, and that
further resonates with the country because he's doing the culture
(21:40):
war right, is kind of the thinking like and that
can extend to everywhere because this this gets everybody going.
We've seen it in these town hall meetings and things
like that. So yeah, a few things, yes, he did well,
but that isn't because he decided to be like a
vile human. If you look at some of the down
ballot races, the message that kids are being groomed to
like take a dump in a sandbox isn't like a
(22:00):
winner at all, like in reality, you know, when you
look at certain areas, Like there's a school board election
result that showed just how unpopular it was to ban
books and bullying gay and transgender kids in Polk County,
where he won almost six of the vote, like, which
was five points better than in the state. But if
you when you look down in that county, four Republican
(22:20):
school board candidates, including one of de Santis has chosen,
they collectively took less than forty seven percent of the
vote against their Democrat and nonpartisan opponents. So that's like
like you're starting to see like it's not quite moving
the needle in this gigantic way. And then in November,
huge like you know, with a very Republican electorate, they
(22:41):
voted down this like pro censorship dark money back to
Republican school board candidate with fifty six percent supporting her
opponent who was a public school advocate. So people were like, oh,
this person who's going all in on it, were like, yeah,
maybe the person who's like, we need like properly funded schools,
so like the buildings aren't like in ill condition, you know,
(23:03):
like that kind of stuff seemed to work more even
with a heavily Republican area. And I don't want your
I don't want buildings to fall down on you and
your children. Who bring it down on me, now bury
me alive. I will survive. And you know, like you
(23:25):
look even around this like the country. Right in West Virginia,
they voted down a constitutional amendment that like they're like,
these Republicans are like, look, give us to like, you know,
give us more power to enact all kinds of draconian
school policies like that. There's like a billy to be like,
let the legislature just run wild with it. They were
like nah. And then other states which are definitely more blue,
(23:48):
like there were many there were much bigger increases to
school funding that people were embracing. So not to say
that these kinds of candidates weren't winning, But it's not
like the Santas popularity. Isn't that he's found this magic
bullet of an argument or like propellant for his campaign.
You know that's going to take it there, Because at
the end of the day, there are a lot of
(24:09):
people who aren't quite like living in the same existence
as maybe the people who are open mouth taking and
Tucker Carlson propaganda every night mm hmm. And it's it
should be said though too, like millions and millions of
dollars have been spent like on me, like this kind
of messaging and to back these candidates. And again that
(24:29):
like the CRT groom or gospel thing is part of
their ideology, was didn't have quite the impact. I think
many people thought that that it would. And and remember
just last week we covered a story I forget it
feels on trends of the regular episode that people like
political analysts were saying that Biden is pivoting to the
middle and they're big takeaway or like one of the
(24:53):
big bullet points for why he needs to pivot to
the middle is that voters in the mid term last
year rejected the extremes and then they listened a bunch
of right wing extreme talking points and like positions that
they rejected and nothing nothing from the left that was rejected.
But it's just it got like it it's just so
(25:17):
so weird, how you know, And anything like progressive things
like funding public schools that seemed very pular just get
fucking like funding schools, you know what I mean? Funding schools. Yeah,
that's what your communists. More money for a teacher to
teach your kid to read, your fucking weirdo like like
(25:40):
very popular and immediately just gets shut down and you know,
erased in favor of you know, everybody wants to fire
the teachers and you know, just the loudest, craziest talking
right wing talking point that they can find. Yeah, I
mean I think you know, the true power or the
thing that people are actually seeing, isn't that because he's
(26:01):
like the culture war goat. There's like a lot about
his campaign and the infrastructure in in Florida that has
massively helped him. Like in his first run for governor,
they had a gigantic voter registration drive that absolutely just
blue Democrat. There's like three hundred thousand more Republicans now,
like if they found a way to turn as many
Republicans out in Florida. And on top of that, Democrats
(26:24):
have basically seen the writing on the wall and they're like,
all right, so this is an l let's just take
our things and go like we're not gonna there's no
point in doing anything here. So not to say that
they've given up, but the amount of energy going into
registering more Republicans is a huge reason why. Like de
Santis also has an advantage, not specifically just to say
people are turning out because they hate critical race theory.
(26:45):
It's like they have a numerical advantage. And at the
end of the day, some of these policies aren't quite
resonating in the same way. So this is just this
is just like education, right, the Republicans in the House
are now like wanting to go after abortion again, even
though it was very clear that this was a losing proposition,
like there's there's these lessons aren't quite connecting for everybody
(27:07):
that it's like, Okay, let's see if we can kind
of start chumming those waters again to see what what
will be good there. And I think this is something
that Democrats need to pay attention to, like not getting
necessarily bogged down in these culture war battles, just be
proactive and speak to what Americans are actually worried about,
Like I think most parents aren't being like are there sandboxes?
(27:30):
And are people being told about slavery? Sorry say litter boxes? Yeah,
whatever it is, And like more so, are the school
is well funded? And can my kid get a decent
education and is it a relatively safe place. Those seem
to rank much higher first for parents, even in polling
than things like parental choice to like stop like to
(27:51):
keep this kind of indoctrination out of our schools. And
it's the same way that like that's what you know,
that's a very easy thing to be saying as a
platform policy for amocrats be like, yeah, school is more funded,
you get a better education, so you have, you know,
a decent shot at surviving in this fucked up system.
And also things like saying, you know, reproductive rights are
(28:12):
human rights. Those are winners. So to think that, like,
oh god, what do we do, just keep you know,
focus on what a regular person cares about, not sort
of getting completely caught up in like the Tucker Carlson
commentary of it all, which again sways a lot of
like the donor and elected official class, but there's a
(28:34):
lot of polling analysis of like how much those concerns
actually go down to like the working class voters in
each party. He also seems to be like in the
way that Trump is singularly able to do what Trump does,
like he seems to be able to like I think
there's a thing that happens in political journalism, where they
(28:58):
assume that some one thing that works for one person
is going to work repeatedly for And I think it
happens probably even more so in the world of like
political strategists, and that that whole massive industry that could
just as well disappear tomorrow and the world would be
(29:18):
a better place. But the the this idea that like, well,
the people are learning from De santists and then everybody's
gonna do that, And it's like, well, I think it
works for de Santis because he is somebody who is
you know, has all these educational like bona fides and
(29:39):
then pretends to believe all the crazy ship And then
with a lot of these other politicians, the fact that
the thing they're saying is objectively like suggests that they
are unstable and that that is a big turn off
for people. So like, I don't know, I feel like
he's able to pull it off better er than other
(30:00):
people because he's like has there there's something about him
that is like boring, But then he's also able to
like make it sound like it's coming from a place
that's grounded and he's lying, Like I don't like he
doesn't believe it. He's just opportunistically pretending that he believes
this bullshit. But I I don't know that always gets
(30:24):
erased from it like that that this is maybe he's
just like a singular person who's able to project the
very specific thing that is needed for these positions that
are objectively very scary because they're crazy and hateful, like
people are able to get around that with him and
almost nobody else him and Trump essentially, it makes sense
(30:47):
to me that he's able to do this and nobody
else is because he's an individual person who has a
good political campaign behind him and a lot of money
and ship and yeah, just like yeah, extremely well fund
extremely careful, and he is smart and shrewd about how
how he does it. So that that's another thing that
(31:09):
I feel like it's removed from it, And it's just
the mainstream media's interest is to create as much news
as possible around this stuff, and the information I think
is a lot simpler than they want it to be
in the long rum, which is, like like you said,
people just want the thing that's going to be best
(31:29):
for them and their family, and you know they will
only support these positions that suggest that they are like,
that's suggest just a hateful, kind of chaotic, crazy world.
If the person is either you know, projecting a sense
(31:50):
of competency beyond what you get from your mtgs or whatever,
or if they are like a cult of personality like Trump.
Otherwise it's just not going to work, Like if you
just like those are two somewhat simple ideas that I
I think people aren't going to say on CNN because
(32:11):
it doesn't allow you to just like scream. And also
that there's something fun and enraging and exciting about this
idea that like everyone around you was crazy past the
country's crazy and they all want you to die. And
it's like, yeah, I think like to your point, he's
he's doing it really well because like the calm that
(32:32):
he projects, and also he's at a position that's high
enough that makes the threats that he makes like tangible.
You know, you can only do so much screaming as
a candidate. You're like, oh, just wait untill I do this.
But Rond de Santis can be like here's the stop
woke act, here's this, here's that, here's that, and people
are like, oh my gosh, and not to mention too
(32:53):
like when those storms hit Florida. He was very quick
to work with Joe Biden to like get things going
back again. The people who live in the state, they're
probably responding more to like, man, all right, the storm
came through. We're starting to see clean up. People are
getting compensated for like the work they did. Like this
feels like it's functioning. But I think that's like his
appeal is that, like Trump, he he occupies a position
(33:14):
legislatively that allows him to like really make his threats tangible.
And I think that's what makes him the most like
appealing for a lot of these other people across the
country because they're like, oh, this guy talks to talk
and he's legislating that way. But I think again with
the analysis, there's a lot to say that he's in
a state that's becoming heavy, like becoming becoming red, and
(33:36):
he has a huge infrastructure advantage, and he's got a
lot of money. Those things also helped a lot to
keep you up in the polls and keep you winning. Yeah,
he's being supported by the powers of being the Republican Party,
like but behind the scenes in a way that it
makes sense to me that he's going to appear to
have a lot of things break his way in the
(33:57):
coming years and months. So and And has already been
in that possession for a while now because I think
they've given up on the chaos of what would it's
like to have Trump at the head. They don't learn,
So we'll see, we can see we've never seen before.
But all that to say, there's a lot of room
(34:19):
for people to make arguments that are just appealing to
normal people's needs and concerns. Yeah, Like I always thought
it was weird that the fact that this was wasn't
this like the deadliest storm in Florida since like in
in a hundred years, But like that didn't really get
played up that much. I feel like the media imprint
of the storm was not not that Like it wasn't
(34:44):
that big a deal. And I feel like, I don't
I don't know why that was the case. Like that.
That's always made me like wonder, like, are they is
the mainstream media just sort of kind of on board
like that that would have been an incovenient fact for
for de Santis, you know, somebody who's like a climate denier.
But I think that's where they don't. I mean, we've
(35:05):
seen the media is like just woefully unprepared to actually
discuss climate change as it relates to things and connect
the dots, Like we're getting more unprepared to connect the
dots on that as it's becoming more of a reality,
because I think there's probably a bigger and bigger investment
going into making it seem like it's not the reality
(35:27):
of the situation. I have something really smart to say, Storm.
I was thinking Torrential downpours Tarantulas. There's a bee disaster movie. Yeah,
right there, Spider Storm, torrent Torrential. The only thing I
(35:49):
disagree with is that it's a be movie. I think
you that oscar bait and it would be better than
everything we've seen this year, thank you. I would probably
with the Spiders raining down movie. Did say talk about
how Florida's turning red? That did make me want to
ask the question, what do you think of that movie
which came out? Oh it did? I It came out
(36:10):
so early in the year that I keep forgetting to
associated with. I did rather like it. It was it
was very it was great, but also like didn't come
out it just it came out on Disney Plus, right,
they didn't drop it. That was in March too. I
was like, what was that January? It was March. They
really that's a good one though. That's the good Turning
(36:33):
Red and Florida the bad Turning Red. But not to
say there's you know, nothing to work for down there.
But it's just kind of I think it's just the
way the media is like, or you know, conservative pundits
are like, and it's all because he hates wokeness. It's like, like, no,
that's not that's not all it is. That's that's just
the thing that's fun for you to cover, and that
(36:53):
is the easiest to generate a bunch of stories on
and by covering it that way, you are playing correctly
into his hands. Hey, speaking of Rick the Crypt co
creator of Rick and Morty, justin Royland is a fucking
creep and a known creep for a while now, but
it's just getting picked up in the mainstream media. He
(37:14):
was charged with domestic violence, false imprisonment by menace, violence,
fraud and or deceit stemming from a arrest. He has
had like multiple court dates on this subject. And since
what's that that that's probably be in the public docket
for people you know that you've been in court for something. Yeah,
(37:37):
and since that hit and like, as you know, it's
been the subject of more than a dozen court hearings,
it was not being reported and Justin Royland continued to
thrive in the industry, making over one point six five
million with fucking n f t s. So you know,
he's cool selling a painting at South Abes, launching a
video game, and creating multiple new animated shows, presumably about
(38:01):
characters with screechy voices as yeah again, can we all
just admit that I got his ass? And then but yeah,
and then that so now that they're like, okay, so
we are acknowledging that this happened. Some of the people
that he's victimized, like dozens of people have come forward
to share their own stories about his predatory and inappropriate behavior,
(38:26):
or in some cases reshare because they'd already posted them
in the past. But bigoted behavior in the workplace and
predatory behavior like grooming of fifteen year old fans of
Rick and Morty. So cool. It's yeah, wild that it's
like something like this like two years ago, right, it's
(38:47):
that something like this happens is known. But then I'm sure,
like so many stories we've read like whether it's like
Harvey Weinstein or other people in the industry, like sometimes
like we kind of need to reach a critical mass
of victims to be able to then say it's a problem,
because if it's just a couple, then it's like and
then like the fact that that's how it's even like
(39:10):
like analyzed like in an editorial sense, is so fucked
up because in the interim, like you're saying, he's making money,
he's cooking, and he's probably continuing to who knows what
other people have been, you know. I am surprised though,
in the post me Too era, which is when the
story first broke, because it was that it wouldn't have
(39:33):
gotten more attention then that I find fascinating, And I
wonder if it has something to do with the very
famously or infamously toxic fan base of his and of
like Rick and Morty, Like I don't know, if I
don't know, but oh, for sure, this is a this
(39:55):
is fucking draft day for the right wing army, I'm
sure of, like you know, Rick and Morty fans who
have been looking for a reason to be like whoa
cultures out of control? Like you know that we've seen
it all the time, like whether it's the people that
are writing, like the writing staff two decisions that are
(40:18):
fucking Sechuan Sauce remember that ship. I was like, man,
these people, Okay, go ahead, do you but yeah, I
mean it's I feel like another moment too, where there's
I'm sure many people like you're saying, people who have
shared their account before yet disinterested outlets or whatever not
taking the time to like, you know that that and
(40:39):
actually put a story out that would allow some form
of accountability to come. Yeah, alright, let's take a quick break.
We'll come back and talk about what it's like to
work at Twitter right now. Oh no, and we're back.
(41:05):
And just a brief update because Twitter does still have
some employees and the employees who work in their offices
and the companies Asia Pacific headquarters in Singapore this week
were escorted out walked out of the building by the
landlords because Elam Musk stopped paying rent there a while back.
(41:27):
What so, first of all, shout up to the first
cool thing Elon Musk has done ever, which is like
refusing to pay landlords. I guess not the first cool
thing ever. It's electric vehicles are definitely but he didn't,
but he didn't. He just hostibly took took over that business.
But like inventing a persona where he's like the Tony
(41:48):
Stark of electric electric vehicles is probably useful in the
long run. It's just he turned that into being the
shittiest version of that possible. But anyways, he just doesn't
pay for their rent. So everybody h is now being
invited to work remotely? That's cool? Again? This how cool
(42:11):
is this guy does? Says fun the landlords, let's everybody
work remote. I may have said some wrong stuff reallier
being like you guys better get in here for some FaceTime.
But yeah, like so what what what? What? How do
how do they even what? Twitter say? That's a good
question Twitter's comment. Let me see if I can find
it here. Oh, they didn't comment on the development because
(42:32):
of course the company no longer has a communications department
to contact for comment. So dude, for d chess right there?
How can I make a comment if I don't even
have the ability to do that through formal channels? And
I think, weren't there We're like, didn't people get chased
out of another like in San Francisco or San Francisco, Seattle,
(42:54):
the landlords in San Francisco or suing him for over
a d and thirty six thousand dollars and unpaid rent
because he just stopped he stopped paying rent there. Yeah, yeah,
who's he doing it in like a baller cool way
where he's like fuck you to the man, where you know,
like these landlords who are exploiting you know, everyday people,
(43:17):
and like rents are too high for anyone to feasibly afford.
He's just doing it the way that like billionaires refused
to pay taxes, right, or just someone who absolutely doesn't
have their ship together at all? And just when is
the Guinness Book of World Records records for biggest financial
l taken in the history of mankind? Like, oh, ship
(43:37):
bills here, here's another cool baller move. He was also like,
and also fuck the janitors of the world. So the
reason this might actually come as a relief to some
of these employees is because he stopped paying janitors a
while back and just fired them all, forcing workers to
bring their own toilet paper and have to clean up
(43:58):
their own workplace at these offices where he didn't he
like when he took over, he was like everybody's coming
into the office. You're gonna show me your best code.
It's gonna be like sword Fish. I'm gonna hold a
gun to your head and make you code while you're
getting you dicks on kidding, I've never seen it. That's
(44:21):
that's the first test that John Travolta pus Hugh Jackman
under Yeah, because Hugh jack was supposed to be this hacker. Yeah,
and getting head with a gun to his head, with
gun to his head while I'm trying to hack man,
I'm trying to the version of movie hacking that's like
a cardio vascular like event where you're like having you're
(44:45):
like hacking so hard. He's like, this guy's got the
best hacking fingers in the game. Look at those suckers
who So it's like that scene from Social Network when
they're like they have the like coders around a table
and they have to like chug beer every ten minutes
or every three minutes. It's that dialed up to a
sixty nine. Yeah, hell yeah. I think we all have
(45:09):
to stop and admit that Caitlin got arrass got alright
with that one has officially gotten hasn't been gotten? Got
it all right? Let's talk about an actual cool, famous person.
Ben Affleck. Thank you to go Bro my man too, though,
isn't he he's like been kid shit Yeah, but did
(45:34):
something recently come out with him to No? I think
there's just like the thing that I know about is
like all those videos where he was like, you know,
he was drunk all day all the time, and like
going on press tours and just like being like here,
come here and sit on my lap. A lot of
like female interviewers really uncomfortable. Yeah. Mmmm, is this like
(45:55):
on his way to like the boy, like on the
way down the and he like ended up having to
go to rehab and everything like that continued. No, I think, yeah, no, No,
I think it was part of his you know, struggles
with substances, but not the other way. Those are behind
him in any you know, day at a time. Anyways,
(46:20):
one of the things that he is known for, in
addition to you know, being a creepy interview is being
a Duncan super fan. You know. I think, is he
holding a Duncan frozen Duncan drink in the sad Affleck meme?
Or is that a Starbucks? I can't I can't remember.
I feel like he has a big iced coffee in
(46:41):
the sad affle like the one where he's like in
that doorway. Oh, maybe he's just smoking in that one
that I thought, there's a I feel like where he's
carrying a giant Do you how many sad affleck memes
are there? There's one because the first one that pops
up when you just search sad affleck meme is him
sitting sitting beside Is that Henry Cavill. Oh yeah, that
(47:03):
makes sense because it's probably Batman v. Superman and he's
just like then there's the one in his towel like
looking out at the sea with his Oh okay, I
think I'm looking at the one. Okay, so it's him.
He's like grimacing, he's he's like holding way more than
(47:26):
he's able to comfortably. As far as Duncan, it's a
Dunkin Donuts. It's Duncan munchkins. It's like three iced coffees.
He has a shirt that says like believe in Boston
on it. It's the most Boston photo I've ever seen
in my life. Anyways, he's he is now creating the opposite,
(47:52):
the polar opposite of the sad Affleck means he went
and just worked dunkin Donuts drive through. We we don't
know what we're assuming this is like part of a
fucking Super Bowl commercial of some dude. There's no way
some fucking celebrities like you know what. I want to
humble myself and work a service job for a while,
(48:14):
just to see what that's like. Like I feel that
this isn't this isn't this content. It has to be
like this. There has to be content. I really hope
for him, for us as a society that it's not
and that this is just a thing that he's doing
and like out of a sense of like I don't know,
like there when when you go back there. There's that
(48:37):
book that I talked about, a Dawn of Everything that
looks back at a bunch of civilizations like in America before,
like pre Colombian America's, and one of the things that
they find that these civilizations would do repeatedly is they
would have like they would change so like one person
would be designated as like the ruler for a year,
(49:00):
but then they would spend a couple of weeks doing
like cleaning out the ship of everybody else like that.
There was there was no permanence to the status in
any of these civilizations, and like it, it feels like
they all came on this. I came upon this idea
because like that's that's a great idea, like to undercover Boss,
(49:23):
but like real actually like not for the cameras, but
like actually undercover boss the ship out of our civilization
so that like nobody is permanently anything, and you don't
get to stay and like people, people who were like
viewed as leaders were viewed inherently with distrust, and if
they tried to stay leader for like more than six months,
(49:45):
everyone's like the funk out of here, like your Yeah.
So I don't know, I think I think we need
more of this built into our civilization, where you know,
somebody who is two thousand and eight an Affleck is
now somebody you could actually just like pass in the
drive through and be like, oh ship Affleck, Yeah, you
(50:08):
were that sucked up my Coolatta Hey, asked neck, you
funked up my drink? They get back in there, got
his ass. He looks so happy in these pictures. Quick question,
Quick question, was Jlo around? J Lo was there too?
And that is why we know it is content. I mean,
(50:30):
I don't know, So it's either it's either straight up
content or it's the weirdest ship. And she's like, I
don't know, this is cool. She's like, I don't know.
I'm worried about him. I just want to keep my
eye on him. Maybe he's researching for a role. Yeah,
I think that's a that could be. And he's like, man,
so he's like playing somebody who works at a Duncan
(50:51):
drive through and and he insists that the script be
adjusted to where everyone's just like so happy to see
you every time they get to the window and they're like, oh, ship,
you're ben Affleck. I mean, I'm reading the script and
it's just not really connecting like this this guy who
works to drive to it sounds like he's he's not
appreciated by others and it and it's really a sad time.
(51:11):
But everything I've experienced was fantastic. You were so kind.
This is really connecting to react. Yeah, And like he
never gives them their money back when they try to
pay for their drink like I did when I was
because that's apparently what he was doing. He's like, Nah,
you don't not You're not paying me for their duncan order.
(51:34):
It's on it's on the house, it's on the affleck,
it's on the c suite. Yeah. But anyways, j Lo
was there too, working or just you know, we don't
know what a lot of questions would never do that,
she won't let a show fur look her in the eye,
you know what I mean. I have started to see, yeah,
(51:56):
like things on Twitter where people are like, man, every
single one of when you ask like somebody who's worked
in the entertainment industry for a while, like rudest celebrity
you've ever met, they were like the answer is always
the same. I'm not going to say who it is.
But then everyone in the comments like j Lo jo. Yeah.
One woman was like, my dad is a chauffeur, Like
(52:18):
he's a driver in Chicago and like would drive celebrities
like part of like a you know, like one of
those services that a lot of like higher up people use.
And she was saying like, yeah, you know, I know
that she doesn't look people in the eye or it
doesn't like people to look her in the eye, because
I remember my dad caught eyes with her in the
rear view mirror and he was scolded for looking at her.
When he was just like looking in his mirrors, and
(52:38):
they're like, so that's the kind of person we're talking about.
Don't even cast your gaze upon me, which thing that's cool?
That's cool. Yeah, I think that is cool that But
I do it. I do it the reverse way, which
is I'm not going to cast my eyes on anyone
because I'm just too in my own head at the moment. Yeah.
Now I'm bad with eye contact for sure. I just
(52:59):
don't get You can be in Made in Manhattan about
a working class woman who, like I don't even remember
the plot, she like pretends to be rich and then
Baltimort starts dating her and some other stuff happens. But
how could you can't be in that movie? And then
(53:24):
look what I'm saying is she should work at dunkin
Donuts Just to remember exactly, Yes, you started from humble beginnings.
You you survived a terrible trip into the Amazon looking
for anaconda where most people you knew died, and you
came back with your life and you still, Wow, there's
(53:45):
grat You've got to find things to be grateful about,
j LO. Yeah, thank you, Troy the way, speaking of
a terrible trip through the Jungle, just saw The Lost City?
Did your children get too scared forty five minutes? Yes,
my children in quotes got too scared, absolutely pissed themselves.
(54:08):
But me, Jack, I was so I was not scared
at it is a bad moment, A bad movie with
great moments. I will say that I completely agree. Yeah,
and I'm not even so so strongly in the bad
movie category. It's I don't know. Yeah, that's what I
turn on a movie for it. Give it gave me
(54:28):
all that got a three point three and the ability
to check out fifty minutes in and be like, I
probably don't need to watch the rest of this. I
think I got everything like this is Bowen Yang has
a great cameo. Petty Harrison is wonderful. There's a great cameo. Yeah,
all around good m hm alright, Caitlin Durante Durantula, thank you.
(54:54):
It's been such a pleasure having you. Where can people
find you? Follow you all that stuff? You can follow
me on Instagram, Twitter, oops, and TikTok I do TikTok now?
And what can I do on TikTok? Yeah? Is me
re editing the endings of iconic movies to to make them.
(55:20):
Let's just say I make them a little bit more
shrekky in. Oh. So that's a big project I'm marking on.
And of course you can listen to the Bechtel Cast
that I co host with Jamie Loftus and we analyze
movies through an intersectional feminist lens. One of the great
(55:41):
podcasts out there is if it does indeed exist. We're
not we're not fully willing to acknowledge that other podcasts exist,
but let's say that it does and in a hypothetical
universe where other podcasts exist, it's one of the greats. Yeah, yeah,
it's in Speaking of Ben Affleck, we are uh soon
to be releasing an episode on Armageddon in which maybe
(56:05):
Ben Afflick's greatest work of all time is his DVD
commentary Yeah, where he's just I think probably a little
drunk and just telling the absolute truth the whole time. Yeah,
like getting Michael Bay's a got his as Ben got
his ad. Yeah he is that where he tells the
(56:27):
story where he was like, so I asked him, like,
wouldn't it be easier to teach astronauts how to be
oil refiners than to teach oil refiner Like workers how
to be astronauts, and Michael's response was, then shut the
funk up. That's exactly what happened. Yeah, none of my face.
(56:47):
I'm gonna go kill a pigeon real quick. Yeah, killed
a pigeon. Anyways, is there a tweet or some of
the work of social media you've been enjoying? Oh yes,
oh yeah, this is from at Alicia Lutus Lutis. I'm
not sure how to say the last name. L U
t e s says movie pitch. Jennifer Coolidge and Owen
(57:11):
Wilson just saying wow at each other. That was the
last week. So like some are just so good because
you can picture it immediately. Yeah, wow, wow wow, really
wow fight between those miles. Where can people find you?
(57:34):
What is the tweet you've been enjoying? Wherever there's at signs?
Look up at miles of grade g R A Y.
I know sometimes people have trouble with that one. You
can also find me and Jack on our basketball podcast.
I moutain jackomen boost these and if in case I
know some people like what are they saying? The name
of the thing is because we go through it all
the time. Miles and Jack got mad Boost these. Check
(57:55):
that out. Also, if you want to hear me talk
about fiance, check out four twenty Day Fiance. Some tweets
at like first. One from Ryan Kennedy at The Ryan
Kve tweeted, funny thing about TV work. You'll have the
worst job ever and at the end they give you
a sweatshirt to remember the experience. You should throw it away,
but it's usually a pretty nice shirt from a brand
you can't afford, so it's forever just this cursed piece
(58:16):
of maddening laundry. Uh Yeah, there's always like you're like, damn,
that's a nice they gave you a north face for that.
They're like, yeah, man, worked my ask to the bone.
Another one from Eve Andrews at e f Andrews tweeted,
I just know in my heart that everyone freaking out
about gas stoves is not actually a good or habitual cook.
And you know what, that's facts. That's how I feel
(58:37):
that too. Okay, probably true, But at the same time,
I don't know, I don't know where I'm just saying
artists doesn't blame their tools, that's right. Oh, you're saying
they're freaking out about like not they're the freak out yeah,
they're like if you if you're freaking out that bad,
it's because you aren't again actually a good or habitual cook,
(58:58):
because you cook enough, you know how to it down
on whatever. Like I thought you meant that. I thought
the tweet meant stop stop hating gas stoves. You're probably
not a good cook and don't know that you need
gas stoves. But it's the opposite. Anyways. You can find
me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien uh tweet I've
(59:19):
been enjoying existential comics tweeted Why are ethics questions always
like is it ethical to steal bread to feed your
starving family? And not? Is it ethical to hoard bread
when families are starving? Yeah, it's a great question. We
should take another look at that. And then Dan just
(59:39):
an all purpose Dan White, one of the one of
my favorite follows on Twitter, that just had a tweet
where he said, so much for just text me if
you ever need anything, and then a screen cap of
a conversation with Mike neighbor Vikings looking good. Yep, hey
can I borrow your gun? It's for a YouTube video.
(01:00:00):
There's no response from Mike neighbor Vikings looking good. Yep, yeah, sure, ship.
You can find us on Twitter at Daily zike Guys.
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(01:00:22):
link off to the information that we talked about in
today's episode, as well as the song that we think
you might enjoy, Miles, is there a song that you
think people might enjoy? You? Did you? Did you read
the time stamps on those texts? Though? From the Dan
White thing. That's also what makes this so funny because
Mike Kings Looking Good is at two pm yep. Then
(01:00:43):
two thirty eight am, Hey can I borrow your gun?
Then the follow um uh, the song I want to
go out on is by Shy Girl and it's called
Wildfire Shy Girls like a d j mc lyricists. Uh
(01:01:05):
and just like if you like pink panthers and kind
of that, like you know, like light ethereal drum in
base five. This is it? So this is called Wildfire
by Shy Girl. All right, well, we'll link off to
that in the footnotes. The Daily's like I said, the
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