August 1, 2024 • 62 mins
In episode 1718, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian and co-host of The Bechdel Cast, Caitlin Durante, to discuss… So What About These VEEPSTAKES? The Weird Continue To Not Disappoint…, Netflix Greenlights Interview Show Starring Dead People and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
The water in an ice cream Pala really, Oh yeah,
it hits different folks, and that's how I took Pala.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
You sound like my baby who's starting to say car
right now, but he's mad with like he's only good
with one syllables.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
He's like, ca, yeah, Boston, your baby. Yeah, all right,
we're going to get the Cali the Pali. He also
calls me Pali for Pali. He calls me Pa.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
All right, Pa, all right, Pa, alright, twenty five dollar
twenty five for you Pa.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season three, forty nine,
Episode four of It's a production of by Heart Radio,
and it's a podcast where we take a deep dive
into America share consciousness. And it's Thursday, August first, twenty
twenty four. It's August. Shit, get it you guys. Shit,
it's already August.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
I told November to take their fucking time, and it's
fucking August.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Get your shit together, calendar. Well, August first is Respect
for Parents'.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Day, National Raspberry Cream Pie Day, Minority Donor Awareness Day,
which is actually important, National Girlfriend's Day, and International Majong.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Day for all of mine, people who played a rich day.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Lots of different important things, specifically my girlfriend who you
haven't met, but she is cool and lives in Canada.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
It's not about made up girlfriends from junior high. This
is about I think friendship between okay girl friend.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Yeah. Yeah, like the way that my mom talks about
her friends as her girlfriends. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Do you remember hearing that the first time as a
kid and you're like, dude, what, oh my god? Yeah, freak,
I'm fucking I'm seven and I only know one definition
that means romantic partner.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Yeah that's I was like, wait, Auntie, I'm like, Auntie,
Mutsie's your girlfriend. She's like, no, that's just shut up. Yeah,
maybe he's just a girl that is my friend. Shout
out Alicia Keys. Shout out Alicia Keys. My name is
Jack O'Brien. AKA, hey, I just sat here. My name's
(02:23):
j D. This glove is rubber, so fuck me. Maybe
that one courtesy of the Great Christy I'm a Gucci
Man on the discord a song sung two a Couch
from JD Vance. I like the way he's kind of
being coy in the way he's approaching the couch. Yeah. Maybe, yeah,
I just this love is here and it's rubber. In
(02:45):
case you think enough already with the jd Vance couch stuff.
He seems like he might be leaning into it or
I don't know, We're going to get into it a
little bit later, but it does seem to be having
an impact. He's certainly aware. Yeah, he's certainly aware. He
might be trying to lean into it and just you know,
in typical jd Vance fashion, doing it awkwardly and badly
(03:08):
the wrong way. Yeah, but yeah, But anyways, I'm thrilled
to be joined as always by my co host, mister
Miles Gray.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Miles Gray, A kay, but I'm a beep. I'm a
weird What the hell am I doing here? There ain't
no couch.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Shout out to Steaming Chuck on the discord. We are
a weep and we are a weirdo, aren't we, folks?
Steaming Chuck, thank you for that the stuff. What do
you yeah, how do you.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Think JD Vance's karaoke song selection changed over the course
of you know, his from when he first came onto
the national scene in twenty sixteen to now. You know,
he's probably like all Toby Keith now, but I bet
he was a creep back in the day, you know,
he seemed like he had some self loathing going on. Anyways, Miles, Yes,
(04:09):
we are thrilled, fortunate, blessed to be joined in our
third seat by a very talented writer, stand up comedian,
one of our favorite guests, co host of The Bechdel Cast,
one of the great film podcasts. They also happen to
have a master's degree in film. The most anagrammable name
in the English language, so if you've been given their
(04:30):
name in a jumble of out of order scrabble tiles,
you might know them as lorn and d Titanic or
nine tit Dracula or Latin dancer ut I. But to us,
they will always be Caitlind.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
I'm back, Yes, you are you back?
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Thank you so much. Oh my god, thank you so
much for being here.
Speaker 6 (04:56):
Oh my gosh. Nothing's up, down up, suspiciously. Yeah, nothing's
at that normal over here. Yeah, paid no attention when.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
You fucking leave me alone? Man, Next question, Urana, Yeah, yeah,
what what's good? We were talking Titanic sequels before before
the show started and were shocked. I was personally flabbergasted
to find that these obscure Titanic sequels were films that
(05:31):
you were familiar with. Well, are you really that shocked
about that? Also taken up back, calling them Titanic sequels
is a bit of a stretch because they're not sequels
to James Cameron's Titanic nineteen ninety seven, for example, But
they are. I mean, I guess if you're just looking
(05:51):
at Titanic as a cinematic universe, which you could I do.
So they're you know, they're in the lexicon, they're they're
they're in the zeitgeist. Will But the first see, the
first film that we're talking about, was called Titanic two,
so that does make it seem that implied, but it's no,
(06:17):
it's just that it's named after the ship featured in
that movie, the ship, because it's a replica of the
original Titanic. God damn, that just blew my mind. In
in universe, it's.
Speaker 7 (06:34):
Titanic too, exactly. How about that? Amazing?
Speaker 1 (06:40):
And in universe they for whatever reason called it Titanic two,
starring Leonardo DiCaprio in universe Billy Zane's Titanic two. By
all right, Caitlin, we are going to get to know
you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're
(07:01):
going to tell the listeners. A couple of the things
that we're talking about on today's episode. We're going to
get into the deep steaks, folks. That's the next big event,
is the thing that a lot of people are speculating about.
There are betting markets happening. So we just want to
talk about the stakes and who Kamala is going to pick,
(07:23):
and you know, who she should pick. We're going to
talk about it, and maybe who she shouldn't. I don't know.
We're going to check in with the weirdness. Yeah, the
just how jd Vance is dealing with being the vice
presidential candidate. Yeah, we need him cool, calm and collected.
(07:46):
He's just yeah, you know, it is now officially the
main story of the Trump campaign is like, Wow, that
was a bad VP pick, and so he is not
dealing super well with that. We'll talk about that. We'll
talk about his childless cat lady.
Speaker 6 (08:04):
Thing right here.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Yeah, I mean, along with a lot of the country
are child cats. Yeah, and fucked up. Not a good pick.
Speaker 7 (08:19):
We might talk about this Netflix interview show starring dead
people that I have a lot of questions about. Basically,
it's like we interview someone right before they die.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Oh wait, that's like the production. That means, Yeah, that's
like the thesis of the shows we present to you.
The last interview somebody did before they die. That's pretty
grim and how metal. How like the booking job. This
has to be the hardest show. Like, how are you
(08:52):
approaching people? How long does miss Lansbury have to live? Right,
we'll check back in a couple of months. We were hoping.
She was like right there.
Speaker 6 (09:03):
You know, you know those like in like retirement communities
or nursing homes, there will be like a cat speaking
of cats. Yes, they'll like sense that someone's about to die,
and then they like go into their room and like
wait for a couple of hours. Maybe they like follow
the cat.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Yeah, and then yeah, a little bit of yeah.
Speaker 6 (09:21):
And they're like, oh, they went into this person's room,
let's interview them, and then like an hour later they die.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Yeah. I like that. I like that. Yeah, I mean
that's and if they did that that would be compelling.
That would be really good TV. Yeah, So anyways, we'll
talk about that the cat of death. We follow the
cat through an old folks home and interview the person
they think will die. All of that plenty more. But
(09:48):
first Kitlyn. We do like to ask our guests, what
is something from your search history that's revealing about who
you are?
Speaker 6 (09:56):
Okay? So I googled Heaven's Gate Old, yes, because because
I was like, I let me just tell you the story.
Let me back up a minute ago.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
I bet you're wondering how Caitlin got to the search
history record scratch. There was a duop.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Group on every street court, So where do we start
this one?
Speaker 6 (10:28):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Sorry, so no, I love that search history story.
Speaker 6 (10:34):
Wow, I love that Deadpool is a verb.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (10:40):
I was watching the movie The Fabulous Four, which is
in theaters currently. If you're not familiar, it is basically
book Club, except Susan Sarandon is in at this time
in Staph Jane Fonda. It's four older women going on
a vacation. So it's it's that genre of movie which
(11:00):
I'm usually not very interested in, but I was like,
maybe I should just like give it a shot. Whatever,
So I want to go see it. It's horrible and
all of the jokes fell flat for me, and yeah,
I imagine that. Yeah, the writing was not good. And
they keep referring to this retirement community called Heaven's Gate
(11:23):
that like this one woman's daughter's urging her to like
go to even though it like nothing would indicate that
she would need to do that at this juncture in
her life. But she's like super religious and she's like, mom,
you should go to this. The daughter is who's urging
her to go, and so she's like, go to this
(11:43):
like Christian retirement community. It's called Heaven's Gate, and you
like see the broke sure and all this stuff, and
so they keep talking about it, and it's so it's
clearly setting up a joke that it's like, no, it's
a cult. It haven't you heard of the cult? But
they never make that joke. So I was like, am
I imagining things? And so like in the middle of
(12:04):
the theater, which I was in basically not exactly by myself,
but I was far enough back that I was like,
I feel okay about.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
You could have heard that the flap top and it
would have been okay, right, So.
Speaker 6 (12:16):
I pull up my phone. I was like, Heaven's Skate
is a cult, right, Like why wouldn't they like make
this connection, make this joke. Sure enough, it is a cult,
it's correct.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
So you thought they were like fucking with your sense
of reality because they weren't paying off this reference to
heav Yeah.
Speaker 6 (12:33):
I was like, well, maybe it's called something else. Maybe
I'm confusing it with another thing, Like yeah, so that's
how much this movie was trying to gaslight me.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (12:45):
Looks by the way, like, yeah, truly have the tracksuits right?
Speaker 1 (12:50):
The tracksuits with they had to stop making What were
the nikes? Were they? They?
Speaker 2 (12:56):
They they looked like a Cortes but there but it's
not a Cortes. It's they're called decades Okay, Yeah, and
they I'm pretty sure they stopped making them because everyone
was rocked. They're like, we don't need this endorsement for
the sneaker. Yeah, total dad chew.
Speaker 7 (13:13):
So it's probably a studio note, like they had a
joke in there, and then the studio was like, this
is a little bleak for people, for an audience we're
aiming for who is about to die.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
But did the heavens like did they ever go to
the retirement home? And it had culty vibes, so it
felt like.
Speaker 6 (13:32):
Okay, doesn't end up being like a plot point or anything,
but they are talking about it enough and the movie
is attempting to be a comedy, so you would think
that they would work that joke in there, right, but
they just don't do it. Yeah, just check out something.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
But you could make the same joke and do like
Heaven's waiting room or Heaven's lobby or you know what
I mean, like something where it's like you're about to
the pearly Gates because you but you can't. You may
not call it Heaven's Gate without us expecting you to
eventually talk about Marshall apple White, the cult leader who
(14:10):
got everybody that killed themselves after castrating himself. I remember,
they're going to catch you right on hillbop, Yeah, hell bop.
Like they had such rich lore, like it was really
a fun world building.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Man, Maybe they could have taken a note from the
cult and did the little fucking world building.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Than seriously, right man? Anyways, the Fabulous Four? Is that
what we're calling what the film was that?
Speaker 6 (14:36):
Yeah, not to be confused with The Fantastic Four.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Yes, yes, did you watch speaking of those like sort
of like late in life comedies, did you watch the
one about Tom Brady.
Speaker 6 (14:48):
Eighty for Brady?
Speaker 1 (14:49):
I did not see that one, okay, because that feels
like sort of firmly in this genre.
Speaker 6 (14:53):
Yes, yeah, and Jane Fonda is in most of these movies,
so it's kind of wild that you.
Speaker 7 (14:58):
Could against fabulous. I'm fabulous for anything. It's fucked up,
it is fucked up. I do feel like eighty for
Brady did pretty well and became a like thing that
people reference in the culture and the culture of very
old people. And the studio note was like, we need
(15:22):
to put like a number in the title for this
next one, you know what I mean. Like, I feel
like that I'm seeing a lot of studio fingerprints all
over this one, right right, Yeah, feels feels cynical to me.
It doesn't feel like real art. The working title was
an ornie for tom just maybe dial that back a
little bit.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Let's dial it back. What, Caitlyn, what's something you think
is underrated?
Speaker 6 (15:46):
So imagine this. All of my things are movie related.
Something I think is if you want to see a
movie about an old person that's really good and fun,
go check out Thelma. And I say that it's like,
I feel like I put it in the underrated category
just because, like I think a lot of people haven't
seen it or aren't talking about it. It's a movie
(16:09):
about an old woman. She's like ninety one or something
played by someone whose name I should already know.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
June Squib Yes, oh joom squib.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
I m j Yeah, and it's about It's like she
gets kind of duped by a phone scammer and then
decides she's gonna get her money back, so she goes
on this like quest to get her money back, and
(16:43):
there's like a lot of mission impossible, like spy espionage type.
Speaker 6 (16:51):
Yeah, it was super fun and highly recommend people go
see Thelma.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Okay, yeah, and uh, the late Richard Tree is also
in it.
Speaker 6 (17:02):
Did he recently die?
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (17:04):
Oh my goodness.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Yeah rip, Yeah, this is getting incredible reviews. June squib
one of our finest. June Squib was like kind of
not discovered late, like she was a working actor, but
like is having her big breakthrough kind of later in
the Squibs Squibs. Yes, we were all living through the Squibbistance. Yes,
(17:26):
I love that. What else has June squib been in
my Internet? Has stopped working for anything except this?
Speaker 2 (17:33):
I remember she was definitely in Hubie Halloween because she
was Hubie's mom.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Okay and hub Halloween. I remember that part we can
stop it, Hue that was what her fine work in
uh Nebraska? Yeah? What was she in about Schmidt? She
was yes, okay, yeah, yeah. I think that was like
one of her early roles. But she wasn't an animal Kingdom,
(17:58):
was she? I didn't.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
I don't think, Yeah, the most unsatisfying it. I'm not
gonna look it up. But if you feel strongly about it,
I won't push back.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Sure, go with it. What is something, Caitlin you think
is overrated?
Speaker 6 (18:25):
Another movie?
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Long Legs, Long Legs.
Speaker 6 (18:29):
Sorry, everyone, but.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Here's the thing, back to back Long Legs takes on
the show this week?
Speaker 6 (18:36):
Oh wait what what? What else was saying?
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Yesterday's guests were like it just check it out.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
It's fine, it's fun. Don't look into it too much.
If you like horror, great watch it.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Boom.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
It wasn't like sort of like a like a full
endorsement like this is the greatest thing. It's like, but yeah,
it's fun, it's just watch it.
Speaker 6 (18:53):
I mean, I think it is worth the watch for
some of the things.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
And don't got ajust, you got your own do you
know your own opinion? Is it fucking bullshit?
Speaker 6 (19:07):
I thought it was really good until about the midpoint,
and then it lost me, but I thought, I mean,
it's an effective horror thriller. I was, I was feeling
on edge the tensions there, but I think it gets
really goofy world building wise about halfway through and then
(19:27):
it completely lost me. So it was I was just
trying to do too much. So I feel like it
didn't live up to the hype.
Speaker 7 (19:37):
What.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Yeah, I just remember I felt like everyone was like,
oh I saw it, more than like, oh, it's the
best movie I've seen. Like, I felt like a lot
of people were just like yeah, I saw it, and it.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Was like, yeah, it was cool. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (19:48):
I guess now like when the early reviews were coming out,
you were I was like hearing things like I ship.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
My pants, get ready ship your pants. I know how
to move to change them. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (20:04):
Part of the marketing was the lead actor, whose name
I also don't.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Know, Nicholas Yep, forgotten. I got this one, this one
Micah Monroe.
Speaker 6 (20:21):
Yes, yes, there was this clip of her approaching Nicholas
Cage's character for the first time in the scene like
she hadn't seen him in his makeup like in character
until she was like as long as long legs. And
also my letterboxed review for this movie was like, his
legs weren't even that.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Long, misleading. It does play into your favorite format of
film review about radioactive Yes, but he was named after
a dang spider, you know.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Oh but in the trailer, yeah, they are being like
one hundred percent on rotten tomatos. They are definitely needing
it to be like flawless Victory, And I would.
Speaker 6 (21:05):
Say that is incorrect in my humble, yet expert film opinion.
Speaker 7 (21:10):
Your victory long legs just fucked your whole ship up.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
It made you, made you ship in your pants and
we're not paying for new pants. Guys being so mean
to us wick at you you ship your pants and
everybody himself? What what? Why are you? Are you so freddy?
(21:39):
This is like already already horror film. Yeah, but I'll
tell you one thing. It has long legs. At the
box office, I had to say, still earning, still earning.
It's neons top top film of all time.
Speaker 6 (21:59):
So oh okay, yeah, all right, good for well, I
mean good for that for them, it's worth seeing. I
just don't.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Yeah, it's not.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
It deserves quite all the hype that.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Flawless score. Go watch Blake Wexler's stand up special daddy
long legs and yeah, okay, yeah, how about that? Support
local artists?
Speaker 7 (22:18):
How about that? Okay, you want to support local artists.
You want to support long legs.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Yeah, you want to support long about a daddy is
daddy too with long legs, not some NEPO baby named Nicholas.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Yes, right, I'm gonna hear your uncles.
Speaker 8 (22:35):
Really making a scene on set to the nick. Oh
did you read that report?
Speaker 2 (22:41):
I remember when we were first talking about Megalopolis and
how he was like being fucking like he was touching
women and trying to kiss them during like the block
and all type scenes. Wait, yeah yeah yeah, And now
like more reporting has come out to be like, yeah,
I think a video is coming, he has sex grip gross,
I'm just trying to get him in the mood.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
You're like, dude, this isn't sixty two, right, and that
also wasn't appropriate. Yeah, yeah, but that's how we did things.
You're like, yeah, well, you know we've moved along. He's like,
dear lord, I sold a whole fingyard for this.
Speaker 7 (23:16):
All right, right, let's take a quick break and we'll
come back talk about deep steaks, and we're back. We're back,
and what's going on?
Speaker 1 (23:35):
So there's presidential's going on president you know, and while so.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
My question is call me Marvin Gay because I'm about
to ask, what's what's going on? Exactly one of the
great albums, flawless album actually.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
But the polls, look, here's what's going on. Just made
you ship your whole love this. The polls look much
better for Harris than Biden.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
There's that the numbers seem to show that she's closing
the gap between her and Trump. She also had a
pretty enthusiastic crowd in Atlanta on Tuesday night, like an
actual arena, was like was filled with people that real
hear yeah, that were real people that were cheering sincerely,
and there was a speech that had full sentences and
(24:25):
no meandering and no sundowning. So comparatively, I'm like, wow,
this is they got something going here. So the vibes
are up, but they can be destroyed just as quickly,
since the VP pick is sort of the last step
to cementing the ticket and so there's a lot of like,
who's it going to be? Is a Jamie Pritzkers, Gretchen Whitmer,
is it Secretary Pete Buotages, is it Governor Tim Waltz
(24:47):
of Minnesota, Governor Joshapiro of Pennsylvania, or Senator Mark Kelly
of Arizona.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Those last three seemed to be the ones that the
media is really.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Kind of dialing in on, and they all offer different
things to the camp PA, Like Waltz gets you a
lot more young people and progressives, and he's got like
a you know, a style of speaking to people that
appeals to like, like from what they see like swing
state voters.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Mark Kelly has like border and immigration cred on top
of being a yes and astronaut.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
And Shapiro has a sixty percent approval rating in one
of the more important swing states that Harris needs to
win the electoral college and one of the states that
she's performed underperforming in that is I think they're looking
at like, oh, that could help shore things up. And
there's a lot of chatter now about Shapiro because it's
sounds like Harris will be announcing her pick.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Next week in Philadelphia, so a lot of people are like, oh,
maybe the maybe.
Speaker 8 (25:43):
That means the governor of that state where you're gonna
be announcing the pick.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
But apparently the aides have told the press like don't
look into the location too much. It's just like just
like a focal point to begin this tour of you know,
some of the swing states that they need to hit.
But this is all just on paper. So, you know,
is Shapiro going to clinch it?
Speaker 1 (26:03):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
If you look at the electoral college mac right, Pennsylvania
has four more electoral college votes than Michigan and nine
more than Wisconsin. So if Democrats win Pennsylvania those other
two states, they can lose and still have a plausible
electoral college victory path. The research, though, shows that VP
picks seldom actually translate to any kind of advantage in
(26:27):
terms of home state turnout and support. So while a
lot of people seem to be applying the logic of
Harris is down in Pennsylvania and Shapiro is popular there,
so he should be the pick, so she wins Pennsylvania,
there's no real merit to that argument, Like it's not
really born out in the data that you see, like
historically when it comes to presidential elections. So that's really
(26:49):
like the only first tier argument I hear for him
like that, you know, like that's the only I'm sure
there are other are you like I guess the whole
mainstream media is doing their thing where they're like she
needs to tack even more to the center, okay, like
to the right, and he is the probably forthest right person,
(27:10):
but right it, I don't know. He seems polished in
a way that I think doesn't work that well or
doesn't like add much to because she's already fairly like
polished in a way that I think some people find
unappealing in like Democrats, and then like his politics seem
to be the worst, and then the Yeah, the only
(27:30):
positive argument I've heard is like beloved in Pennsylvania. Yeah,
and they've been they I was watching MSNBC this morning,
like they were talking to like potential Latino voters who
are there, like I don't like. They were saying like
I don't know, but I like Shapiro, so that might
help me. And sure that's one person. But they were
presenting it as if like, see that person said they're
more interested if it is Shapiro. But again, this isn't
(27:54):
something that's supported by data. And again, if you're trying
to look more moderate, then yeah, Shapiro definitely helps with
that because there are people like you know, there's like
saying that Kamala Harris is like two left wing and
are like folks, sure, but no, let's be real here.
And like you said, his politics could definitely affect support
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among younger and progressives, younger voters and progressive voters because
he's a staunch supporter of Israel, like he attacked like
as attorney general, he was like coming after Ben and
Jerry's because they're like, we actually don't want to like
sell Ben and Jerry's in like illegal settlements.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
And he's like the BDS movement is out of control.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
He called student protesters who are protesting the genocide and
goaza like white supremacists and compared them to the KKK.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
He's like, down for school about your stuff.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
It's not great policy at all. And I think Harris
seems to understand, I guess somewhat. I mean, like when
net and Yahoo was in town, she didn't meet with him.
She had another engagement, but apparently was going to meet
in private. So a lot of people are like, well,
at least it sounds like visually she knows what how
to not appear because of this very delicate situation considering
the plight of Palestinian people at the moment, and that
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needs to be handled delicately, and I think especially now
because if you look at the news recently, Net and
Yahoo seems to be escalating things to a potential regional war,
like there have been a Hamas like and other Iran
proxy people who have been assassinated in the capitals of
Lebanon and Iran.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Okay, and getting.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Further embroiled in armed conflict is the last thing I
think most people. I mean, I think most people are like,
what the fuck? What?
Speaker 1 (29:29):
What? What do you need to know?
Speaker 2 (29:31):
We don't want to fucking get involved in another war.
So everyone's calculus isn't the same. But this is also
why I think it's important for the Harris campaign to
really begin articulating her policy positions on things like you know,
Medicare for all or like pathways to citizenship Because while
Mark Kelly gives you immigration cred because he's like in
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a border state, that might not play well with people
who are a little bit disappointed to hear like what
about pathways to citizenship? Like where we with that? What
are these other things that are gonna really bring out
more and more support?
Speaker 1 (30:04):
So is Kelly like tough on crime, border guy actually yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
he's a border hawk. Some might say fun.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
So that I think that's why there's all this kind
of like what are we gonna do?
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Like who's going to be the best?
Speaker 2 (30:18):
And I don't know, I mean I feel like from
what I've seen, Tim Waltz offers a lot. He seems
pretty relatable. He's really popular in Minnesota too. But then
other people were like, but he was the governor during
the George Floyd stuff that was happening in twenty twenty,
and like what can you do against those It's all
everyone's got their reason to not or to support, but yeah,
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it's there's you know, the Democrats could make the right
decision or one that doesn't seem to fracture the support,
because right now it feels like people because Kamala isn't
quite fully tied to Biden's policies, obviously she is by
being vice president, like there is this honeymoon period where
people can pretend like, I don't know, she might be
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completely different than what's happening right now, and so a
VP pick may kind of reinforce the thing as like, oh,
this is basically this is the Biden campaign all over again.
Or is this something different to have a bigger coalition
of voter support.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Yeah, all right, So the mainstream media takes I've read,
and this is gonna shock you guys a little bit
if you've paid attention to the mainstream media ever over
the past thirty years. They think she's gonna need to
tax center on this one. No way, I know, righty.
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Their read on the situation is that her campaign fell
apart in twenty twenty when she tried to embrace her
twenty nineteen when she tried to embrace like left leaning
policy positions, and of course by embrace we mean may
hollow gestures and speeches without like having any ideologically coherent
like you know, grasp and so almost feels like very
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centrist to me after all, to not actually embrace it
but just like make gestures and not have actual ideological
content in your platform. But I don't know she's.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Got again, there's an opportunity to really firm up support
by you know, having things that people want, policies that
people want, and for all this like tack to the center.
I'm like, the most Democrats and most of the people
you're trying to appeel to want things like like universal
health care right, want things like pathways for citizenship, want
things like a ceasefire, and with what I mean, Nen,
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Yahoo's completely really change the playing field here, because like
you're you're negotiating with Hamas for a ceasefire, but you're
going after like you're assassinating they're the heads there, and
like how do negotiations go forward in that instance? It
feels like that it's really doesn't know, it's it can
only go downhill from here. Yeah, so yeah, a lot
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can be a lot can change, but I can also
like you know, we also see this habit constantly come
out from Democrats, which is like don't yeah, don't too
too much progress because it scares imaginary people that we
made up to maintain the status quo.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Yeah, the political analysts and strategists are no fan of
stack like sticking to or like going with a strong
take on a policy that's popular because.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Yeah, like I don't know how many people grown with
a Tim Waltz VP pick right. People will start groaning
about Josh Shapiro right just because you know, like his
politics are all there for people to see and considering,
like the how fractured Biden's support was over things like
his support for Israel.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Can she figure out a way because.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Like again, like I said, the people, the vibes are
good because people are still kind of like defining in
their own mind what this campaign can be before it's
actually articulating what those positions will be. So it's like
it's definitely a very there's an opportunity to either do
something that will really shore things up or cause more
you know, finger pointing and disagreement.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Yeah, the content of the speech in Atlanta seemed to
be playing from the playbook of like keep the focus
on Trump and also like play defense on places there
attacking me, like the border stuff. Like she specifically brought
up the border thing, so I could see her going
with Kelly because of that being a place where she
feels like she needs to play defense. So the betting lines,
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by the way, like Shapiro and Kelly lay out in
front plus one thirty seven for Shapiro, which means you
bet one hundred dollars. If she picked Shapiro, you win
one hundred and thirty seven. Kelly, you win one hundred
and sixty two. Tim Wallt you win five hundred. So
they're pretty they think that one's unlikely. Roy Cooper, you
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win fourteen hundred, those odds should go up. Now that
he's dropped out of the race, he's taken his name
out of contention. Andy Basheer is way back at eighteen hundred.
So I don't know, I feel like it.
Speaker 7 (35:10):
You know, the betters seem to the thing and they
are way out.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
In front on Shapiro and Kelly.
Speaker 7 (35:20):
So yeahs what like in the world of politics, what are.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
The VP success stories? Like, I feel like I only
have VP like horror stories where it's Sarah Palin, it's
jd Vance. I guess the success stories would be like
Pence not totally fucking Trump's first campaign up and Biden
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like giving making old white people feel okay about Obama.
But it's never like flashy, right, It's always like.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
And if you look at the people who the last
VP picks from, like the the elections, we remember, they
were all coming from states that weren't competitive at all,
like Dick Cheney's from Wyoming. Yeah, like Pence is from Indiana,
Kamala Harris is from California, So like, yeah, these aren't
these aren't necessarily like because I think if it were,
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if it were that easy then everyone would be deploying
this strategy to be like, what's the swing state we
need to win, that's the VP pick. It's just like,
while sometimes there are there are a few people who
make the arguments that it does matter, but like people
who've done deeper analysis on it, like now, the premise,
the premise that these sort.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Of research papers are based off over flawed, and yeah
they can you remember Tim Kane, Yes, holy shit, what
a strange energy that guy was working with exactly not
what Hillary Clinton needed, but that felt like one where
they were like we got a hold like shore up
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a battleground state, Virginia is important. And he was bilingual.
There was that. I think that was a oh yeah,
I didn't I didn't know that. Yeah, a lot of
people like he speaks Spanish.
Speaker 6 (37:05):
Was that Hillary's VP pick?
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Yeah, Hilary yeah, twenty sixteen.
Speaker 6 (37:10):
Yeah, I don't remember this dude at all.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
He was very not memorable and just had this really
weird energy where he would like, you know, say a
thing and then like translate it into Spanish with but
it was just like his facial facial energy. It was
all like cheerleader, you know.
Speaker 7 (37:31):
It was like you know when a cheerleader has like
a plastered smile where it's.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
Like I'm giving you enthusiasm all the time.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Yes, but yeah, the thing was even then, I remember
there were like poles that they're like even like Spanish
speaking voters like that's okay, not like impressed, you know
what I mean? Yeah, no, grass, yeah, because he was
doing like speeches too, like like in Spanish, and we're like, yo,
this ship is pretty impressive.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
But it just it wasn't enough. So again, it stands
to reason that it can maybe do more potentially to
hinder than to help. But I don't know. We have
to see how JD. Evans plays out. That'll be an
interesting test case.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Because this is someone whose favorability keeps fucking going down
sky right.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Well, I'm sorry, I guess I'm out of the loop
on those I thought that couch thing was gonna really
should we talk about JD? Because he continues to so
it's he's become a major story for the Trump campaign.
The fact that the narrative is now this has backfired.
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He is he was the wrong choice when you Google
I googled has VP ever, and the Google auto complete
has been replaced because a lot of people are thinking
that on the Republican side, like how do we get
out of this? So he had to come out and
just calm everyone down and be like, look, we're good here. Yeah,
(38:55):
I just I know it looks weird because they made
up that line and every almost like that lie makes
me see you in a new way. But I am
secretly a riz god and get ready to be blown
away and melt in my hands.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Yeah, man, it's his He he gave a stump speech
in Nevada, and it started off like fucking terribly, like
just from the beginning of the speech. Let me just
play it the fucking just the beginning of JD. Van's
giving a speech, just so you understand where this guy,
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where he's coming from.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
They're excited. Now I have seen the consequences. Mike just
went out.
Speaker 7 (39:43):
Now he's tapping the mic, still talking, he's talking, he's
hand now doing a fake.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
Something about this Mike again, all dead air right now,
and then it comes back up there it is.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
So that's how the speech fucking started, you know what
I mean. Then he's got real like Ronda Santa's energy,
where like when he's smiling, you're like he's gonna kill someone. Yeah, exactly,
he is planning someone's demise. So again, his speaking ability
is second to many. But listen, this is this is
part of this is just again because he is a
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fantastic orator. This is this is him getting a little
momentum in his speech. Do we want to defund the police?
Do you wanted to do you want to ban fracking?
Speaker 8 (40:34):
So?
Speaker 9 (40:35):
Do we want a dangerous level liberal like Kamala Harris?
Speaker 1 (40:38):
What he's like doing a Kyle Mooney bit? Do I
do a little bit more? Yeah, he's he's not. Again,
he's not the smoothest. He's supposed to be the coherent
anchor to Donald Trump's electric motor boat. That he has
(40:59):
to is between sharker electrocution.
Speaker 8 (41:02):
You at a little baby belt Jesus wait, liberal, please,
can I start over?
Speaker 1 (41:07):
Guys? My time out? Time out? You can't do a
timeout during a live speech. Then listen to this one.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
This is where he's just trying to talk about, like
you can thank Kamala Harrison Joe Biden for your high
gas prices.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
This is how he lands the plane on this one.
So when you fill up your pump, huh, when you fill.
Speaker 9 (41:23):
Up your tank at the gas station, maybe you should
send a bill to Kamala Harris.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
When you fill up your pump.
Speaker 7 (41:33):
He's just he's the everyman, you know, when you fill
up your pump on your.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
Car tank, gas fill up tank at gas station.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
I would give Kamala bill. I don't know, time out
defeated by the end of the sentence.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
Yeah, so he's he's not again, the Grand Wizard of
the KKK is not quite giving us the charisma that
is needed to power this white supremacist campaign.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
Unfortune for them.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
But then the part that really got a lot of
attention was again this guy.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
Everyone says you bang couches, and he says this, he's.
Speaker 2 (42:13):
Talking about people like people want, people want my wife
to come up and say something.
Speaker 7 (42:18):
This is him talking about two big like stories that
have been like circulating the mainstream media that have crossed
over from memes to like the mainstream meter or like
that he had that interview where he talked about his
wife and seemed apologetic that she was a person of color. Yeah,
and to like he was like, white supremacists don't like it,
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but I love it.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
I love her.
Speaker 7 (42:40):
And then the other one is the made up story
that he fucks a couch but he just like has
sluch couch fucking energy that it won't go away. And
here's how he tries to kill two birds with one
stone or.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
Or sideshow bob breakfest. Yes, he just another rake to
the face. Let's see.
Speaker 9 (42:59):
Now I would call her up here to come and
speak that. Then I think I'd have to sleep on
the couch tonight.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
So alone, there's like groans in the audience.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
I know they're like, what, like, so you so you
want to Cody Johnson retweeted that he's like, in fact,
why don't I ever come up here? That actually sounds
all right to me. Yeah, yeah, another night on the couch.
Speaker 1 (43:29):
But I don't know.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
Again, he's not leaning into it like someone who has
like a good command of irony and humor.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
Its just like it also comes off as like, dude,
you did you know? Did you mean to do that? Yeah?
Was he trying to be like maybe I can be
self deprecating about this, But he did it in a
way that like he bailed on the bit like immediately, And.
Speaker 6 (43:52):
So does it strike me as someone who has any
like the capacity to have a sense of humor about
himself or to like acknowledge So I'm like I think
he just was like, Oh, my wife's always his wife
is always curious with me, right, so I'm used to
sleeping on the couch And he didn't even make the connection,
which how embarrassing is that? That's my theory though.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
He and then on Wednesday he went to a diner.
I didn't put this one in the dock, but he
went to a diner and like with his wife and
two kids, and he didn't even like introduce her to anyone,
Like he just was like talking and like people were
just like, oh, hi, nice to meet you the wife.
Like in this he's like feigning family man stuff at
this diner counter while his kids are drinking chocolate milk.
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And it's like, again very awkward. There's like video of
like campaign aids like setting up the chocolate milk for
like this photo op of like kids just enjoying chocolate milk.
And then this is how this entire sequence interaction went
at a diner.
Speaker 9 (44:51):
Oh right, here she's just sucked down a full day
serving a chocolate milk.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
Here is this our bill here? Okay Roles right, yeah, okay,
I'm paying for these with money. I got it actually,
Yeah all right, now here's what we're gonna do. Thank you.
All those are big sentindoles. Those are big He's so
worried about he can't not start talking about nutrition the
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second he's around food, like she's just sucked.
Speaker 7 (45:21):
Down in days. We're serving worth of chocolate milk.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
Cool that you're gonna have a your your kids are
gonna have a very normal relationship to food when you're
like and she has taken her protocol of chocolate milk
for the day.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
This is actually what he says after he references the
chocolate milk again outside of the diner.
Speaker 1 (45:39):
So I'm doing great, man, I'm having a good time.
My family's here. They're hopped up on chocolate milk. So
it's gonna be a wild plane ride home. But look,
we're we're having a great time and I'm enjoying it.
Speaker 6 (45:51):
It's gonna be a wild played rendhod because they're gonna
ship the fun.
Speaker 1 (45:56):
We're gonna watch long legs, dude, They're gonna ship they're
fucking little pants, dude, of those chocolate milks. He is
so rotten, like he is so disanta's brained, like he
is exactly run to say it, like all of his
energy is like rond DeSantis. His relationship to food and
sugar is run to say, like they they had him
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do we we covered this on a previous episode, but
they had him do like a direct to camera like
behind the scenes of the campaign. This is what's fuel
in the campaign. It's junk food. I can't eat it
or I'd explode, blow up like a tip. Yeah, Like
it's just like God, what damn man? Like why you
like couldn't leave that out?
Speaker 2 (46:36):
Yeah, but these are also buddy if for some guy
who's like again, he really rich. He showed his ass
and he said, I'm drinking diet mountain dew, like, bro,
just yeah, just elect yourself, let yourself rot on the
inside like the rest of us, and drink the full
blooded mountain dew and then coming after staple American foods
like Lays and Snickers and be like, ah.
Speaker 1 (46:56):
I can't eat that garbage. That's for you.
Speaker 2 (46:59):
I'm an everyman anyway, So we're going to Peter Luger's
after Anyway, my kids are in big trouble for all
that chocolate milk they just conssumed.
Speaker 1 (47:08):
But soilent for them. I'm a man of the people. Yeah,
it's it's a tough one.
Speaker 2 (47:14):
So yeah, I think also alongside just all of this,
I do want to just touch on Jesse Waters too,
because the weird stuff is still continuing to like rock
their brains, like they don't know how to squirm out
of this, and now Jesse Waters is just now coming
up with like weird pseudoscience takes on why like you
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shouldn't vote for a woman and like why this whole
thing's a sham or whatever this is. Jesse Waters on
what this means to vote for a woman.
Speaker 10 (47:45):
Now, I don't see why any man would vote Democrat.
It's not the party of virtue, security, it's not the
party of strength. It's definitely not the party of family.
And to be a man and then vote for a
woman just because she's a woman is either childish, that
person has mommy issues or they're just trying to be
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accepted by other women. And I heard the scientists say
the other day that when a man votes for women,
he actually transitions into a woman.
Speaker 7 (48:14):
Oh is that right?
Speaker 1 (48:15):
Yeah, that's what the science's science.
Speaker 7 (48:16):
That's so is that one of the shows where he's
with like Democrats or something, Yeah, token Democrats who are yeah?
Speaker 1 (48:27):
I mean, and she's pretty.
Speaker 2 (48:28):
Good on the five is she Yeah, she actually typically
like fires right back in a pretty Jessica Tarlov.
Speaker 1 (48:36):
Is the woman who goes on there to represent like liberals.
Speaker 2 (48:39):
But yeah, anyway, he managed to full transphobia into that
fucking weird take of like shattered Masculinity's so fucking again weird.
Speaker 1 (48:50):
That's like weird. It's such a fifteen, like a fourteen
year old thing to say.
Speaker 2 (48:54):
Like dude, don't pick the don't pick the girl character
or you're the girl in the video game, Like what
And that means what what are we saying?
Speaker 6 (49:04):
None of what he said made And also like no
one's voting for her just because she's like men certainly
aren't doing that.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
Yeah, where's that? Yeah? Where is that group?
Speaker 2 (49:15):
I will only vote for a woman, that's my thing. Yeah,
and I do that to impress other women, that's why.
Speaker 6 (49:21):
Yeah, because men are obsessed with getting the social approval
of women famously.
Speaker 2 (49:28):
Right right right, So I live in such a utopia
of of equality.
Speaker 1 (49:34):
It is. It is a narrative that I'm seeing a
lot of places, like there's been this headline where it's
like the gap, the gender gap, and how it defines
this election more than any election ever, so I see
what they're trying to do with the data to be
like and that means you're not a man if you
vote for Democrat.
Speaker 2 (49:53):
Well, because with younger people it's definitely going that way,
Like younger men are like definitely ingesting more more and
more like sexist, misogynistic type content that is sort of
being more like into this like you know, trad wife ship,
but also like but with women and like women identifying voters,
they they're moving to the left. So there is this
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like gender divide with younger people for sure, but to
the point where like you can just say, like, yo, dude,
your peep is gonna fucking go poof if you fucking
vote for Kamala.
Speaker 1 (50:26):
Now, I don't know how you know.
Speaker 6 (50:28):
Affect scientists say?
Speaker 1 (50:31):
Is that which scientists doctor pepper them? Okay, okay, the
scientists on YouTube are saying doctor Jordan Peterson, I ever
heard of him? All right, let's take one more break
and we'll be right back and we're back. And yeah.
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So Netflix has this new show to remake of a
Danish show Downish called The Last Word, where you interview
people when they're about to die and then once they
are dead, you release the episode seems to be the idea,
and now Netflix is going to do it to American
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nearly dead celebrities.
Speaker 2 (51:25):
I guess I I only know Okay, okay, I know
Stephen Sondheim is.
Speaker 1 (51:30):
I know who Angela Lansbury is? Who's the screenshot of
this already exists on the New York Times. The New
York Times has a like segment called The Last Word
where they interview like they do this already.
Speaker 2 (51:46):
So oh so the screencap I'm saying it's from the
New York Times already doing this item already existing.
Speaker 1 (51:52):
Netflix is like, We're gonna go even bigger. The competition
for nearly dead people interviews is going to be out
of control. I see.
Speaker 2 (52:02):
I mean there's I get the interest in something like
that because someone I remember having like very interesting conversations
with like my older fan, like my older relatives as
they were sort of on the brink of passing away
and like the sort of clarity that sometimes people have.
But yeah, okay, sure, I guess I need to see
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it to know, like, am I that.
Speaker 1 (52:26):
Interested in what Stephen Sondheim has to say? Or is
he going to say something that's like truly.
Speaker 6 (52:30):
Are they going to say, do they say, like, here's
what I regret not doing or doing so that people
can be like, oh my god, right, I have to
follow my dreams or.
Speaker 2 (52:43):
Like because like they're just you know, sort of at
the end of their lives, like they just start saying
shit they really believe the whole time, or we got
to put all that on the cut and room floor.
I've never even heard that slur before.
Speaker 1 (52:56):
Is that a word? Even? It's just like a really
the the interviewer is like, so, spill bitch, what who
did you really hate? Andrela Lansbury right right, what do
you think Andrew Lloyd Weber Steven.
Speaker 6 (53:11):
That's good television? Actually that would be right right right?
Speaker 2 (53:14):
So on deaths door Step that's yeah, but not like these, Yeah, sure.
Speaker 1 (53:20):
I could see. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (53:21):
I'm just trying to think of who I'm really that
interested in because it's also like, for I guess this
also has no appeal to me generationally, like I when
I'm in my sixties or seventies. Then if when it's
like this, this is Jay Z on his deathbed or something.
Speaker 1 (53:36):
They like, what does Sean Carter have to say? Yeah? Yeah,
it does seem like it's fairly. It's the elderly right there.
I don't see a version of this where they're like
getting people who are young and on death store right,
But maybe, I mean that would be interesting if like
we had the Chadwick Bozman like interview that rite or
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something like that.
Speaker 2 (54:02):
And I think, but for so many people, that's such
a private thing, like you know, obviously you struggling with
cancer privately and didn't tell people, so like, I think
it probably makes more sense for people who are like, yes,
I'm getting on in age, I don't mind doing this interview,
and so I'm like, hey, we heard like you might
be really sick, right, yeah, do you want to do
(54:23):
an interview?
Speaker 1 (54:24):
Like I guess that the producing style. I'm curious producing
like behind the scenes because they're you know, they're every
news outlet has their oh bits that are on deck,
you know, for very famous people who they think might
die soon. But they they don't like reach out to
(54:46):
the celebrity to be like, hey, could you fact check
this oh bit for us real quick? Because we think
you're about to die. So just reaching out to somebody
and being like, hey, you're about to die, right and
have them be like no feels like, I don't think
someone how far along they are, come on, don't they don't? Honey?
Speaker 6 (55:09):
Yeah, that's why they need this cat producer who just
can sends people are going to die and they just
then they blame everything on the cat.
Speaker 2 (55:16):
Right, easy, exactly exactly, that's smart to Yeah, I mean
I'm really curious to know like who the who the
episodes are going to be on before I can truly
be like, oh that might be interesting, but yeah, I
don't know. I've also, we live in a world controlled
by people about to die.
Speaker 1 (55:34):
So I'm like, I can't do they have the Biden
interview recorded already? You know, like that that would be
the intriguing thing, is like the making of this show
or you see the listening, like these people are all alive?
Wait right they have presumably they have a bunch of
shows banked with people who are still alive that we
(55:58):
might not realize or like out to die. So like
that they just need to make a website with all
the names like interested list, and then like have already
interviewed you know, Jimmy Carter? Is have they done the
Jimmy Carter interview? Did they do the Henry Kissinger interview?
Jimmy Carter is still fucking alive hanging around. Yeah, all right,
(56:25):
Caitlin Dorante, what a pleasure having you on the daily Zite.
Speaker 6 (56:28):
Guys, gosh, thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (56:30):
Where can people find you and follow you and hear you.
Speaker 6 (56:34):
You can hear me on the Bachtel Cast. It's available
on all the freaking platforms and podcasts listening places that
I co host with Jamie Loftus. And we are doing
a We're like introducing a screening of the movie Chicken
(56:57):
Run in Los Angeles, So if you live in the area,
come to the Los Felis three Theater. It's American Cinema
Tech has is like sponsoring a Friend of the Fest
podcast festival where they're having podcasters introduce screenings of movies.
So we're doing Chicken Run. It's on August twenty fifth
(57:20):
at four pm. Tickets for that are on the Bechtel
Cast link tree, so link tree slash Bechtel Cast. And
uh yeah, I'm pretty excited about that.
Speaker 1 (57:32):
Is that one of you?
Speaker 6 (57:33):
It's one of my faves. It's yeah, it's have you
seen it?
Speaker 1 (57:36):
I saw when it came out. I mean that was
just by the same people who may the sheep and
yes and yeah, yeah, I don't know if I've seen
Chicken Run specifically, I've seen a lot of their work.
Speaker 6 (57:50):
Well, come to the screening on August twenty fifth, bring
your kids. It's a family friendly.
Speaker 1 (57:56):
That's a Sunday too.
Speaker 6 (57:57):
It's a Sunday exactly four pm. Not a reasonable hour anyway,
So there's that, And you can follow me personally on
Instagram at Caitlin Durante. And then I have some screenwriting
classes that I'm teaching coming up in September, so I
(58:17):
have my intro class, so if you're like brand new
and fresh to screenwriting, that's the one for you. I
also teach workshopping classes, so if you already have a
bit of a background in writing for the screen and
you're working on something and you want to bring it
in and workshop it and get notes from your fellow
students and from myself, you can take that class. And
(58:41):
all of that is on my website Caitlindurante dot com
slash classes.
Speaker 1 (58:48):
Wow. Wow, amazing. And is there a work of media
that you've been enjoying.
Speaker 6 (58:56):
I saw the movie DD a couple days ago, and
I I'd recommend that it's a coming of age Story.
It's technically a period piece because it's set in two
thousand and eight.
Speaker 1 (59:09):
Okay, oh my god, right, how did they remember?
Speaker 6 (59:14):
How did they do it? But yeah, it's very much
in the vein of like eighth grade. If you enjoyed
that movie, so I'd recommend dd I liked it quite
a bit.
Speaker 1 (59:25):
D d I amazing Miles. Where can people find you
as their work media you've been enjoying?
Speaker 2 (59:31):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, find me on Twitter and Instagram at
Miles of Gray. If you like basketball, I just saw
that Anthony Davis got.
Speaker 1 (59:38):
Injured during the Team USA game.
Speaker 2 (59:41):
He did by as we record this on Wednesday, I'm
a Laker fan in disarray at the moment. But if
you want to hear us talk about the NBA and
basketball in general, you can also find that on Miles
and checkot mat Boosti's And if you want to hear
me talk about ninety Day Fiance, that show is called
for twenty Day Fiance.
Speaker 1 (59:58):
I'm just dealing with just seeing that trending on the
Internet and I'm like, that's not good. I don't know
what the extentive is of a one piece of media
you didn't enjoy.
Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
Let's see a couple of tweets I like. One is
from at kunt Fried. Rice tweeted my body is not
a temple, It's a World trade center and every day
is nine to eleven and at a Shikhupar tweeted, Hey guys, I'm.
Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
Hearing it's weird to approve arms shipments to Israel. Yeah.
I think I think that is weird too. I think
we need to look into that as well. Amazing.
Speaker 7 (01:00:32):
You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien
tweet I've been enjoying. Terran tweeted parentheses driving stones. Wow,
this should not be legal. That was my.
Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
Experience of driving stones. Very scared.
Speaker 7 (01:00:52):
You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're
at the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook
hamdpage on a website where we link off to the
episodes and our footnote no, which is where we link
off to the information that we talked about in today's episode,
as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles,
(01:01:14):
what is a song that you think.
Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
The people look I'm all about just having some nice
vibrations because it's already August and I told fucking November
to tickets.
Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
Sweet Time November.
Speaker 2 (01:01:26):
But this is a really dope track from this composer,
Giuliano Sergini, who is like one of these like iconic
sort of Italian composers who made a lot of move
like like theme songs and scores for like Italian television.
Speaker 1 (01:01:39):
This track is.
Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
Called Lavoro cerebra l A v O r O c
E r E b r A l E. And it's like,
just got this, like you feel like it's you're the
like it's the opening theme song for a movie about
you and you're driving a convertible like in eighties Italy
or something. It just feels like it's like feels good
(01:02:01):
when you listen to it, You're like, I can't get
stressed listen but having this playing right now, and so
I extend this opportunity to you, the listener to check
this track out by Giuliano Orgini Lavoro.
Speaker 7 (01:02:13):
All right, we will link off to that in the footnote.
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Speaker 1 (01:02:24):
That is gonna do it for us. This morning. We
are back this afternoon to tell you what is trending,
and we will talk to you all time.
Speaker 7 (01:02:30):
Bye bye bye
The water in an ice cream Pala really, Oh yeah,
it hits different folks, and that's how I took Pala.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
You sound like my baby who's starting to say car
right now, but he's mad with like he's only good
with one syllables.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
He's like, ca, yeah, Boston, your baby. Yeah, all right,
we're going to get the Cali the Pali. He also
calls me Pali for Pali. He calls me Pa.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
All right, Pa, all right, Pa, alright, twenty five dollar
twenty five for you Pa.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season three, forty nine,
Episode four of It's a production of by Heart Radio,
and it's a podcast where we take a deep dive
into America share consciousness. And it's Thursday, August first, twenty
twenty four. It's August. Shit, get it you guys. Shit,
it's already August.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
I told November to take their fucking time, and it's
fucking August.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Get your shit together, calendar. Well, August first is Respect
for Parents'.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Day, National Raspberry Cream Pie Day, Minority Donor Awareness Day,
which is actually important, National Girlfriend's Day, and International Majong.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Day for all of mine, people who played a rich day.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Lots of different important things, specifically my girlfriend who you
haven't met, but she is cool and lives in Canada.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
It's not about made up girlfriends from junior high. This
is about I think friendship between okay girl friend.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Yeah. Yeah, like the way that my mom talks about
her friends as her girlfriends. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Do you remember hearing that the first time as a
kid and you're like, dude, what, oh my god? Yeah, freak,
I'm fucking I'm seven and I only know one definition
that means romantic partner.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Yeah that's I was like, wait, Auntie, I'm like, Auntie,
Mutsie's your girlfriend. She's like, no, that's just shut up. Yeah,
maybe he's just a girl that is my friend. Shout
out Alicia Keys. Shout out Alicia Keys. My name is
Jack O'Brien. AKA, hey, I just sat here. My name's
(02:23):
j D. This glove is rubber, so fuck me. Maybe
that one courtesy of the Great Christy I'm a Gucci
Man on the discord a song sung two a Couch
from JD Vance. I like the way he's kind of
being coy in the way he's approaching the couch. Yeah. Maybe, yeah,
I just this love is here and it's rubber. In
(02:45):
case you think enough already with the jd Vance couch stuff.
He seems like he might be leaning into it or
I don't know, We're going to get into it a
little bit later, but it does seem to be having
an impact. He's certainly aware. Yeah, he's certainly aware. He
might be trying to lean into it and just you know,
in typical jd Vance fashion, doing it awkwardly and badly
(03:08):
the wrong way. Yeah, but yeah, But anyways, I'm thrilled
to be joined as always by my co host, mister
Miles Gray.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Miles Gray, A kay, but I'm a beep. I'm a
weird What the hell am I doing here? There ain't
no couch.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Shout out to Steaming Chuck on the discord. We are
a weep and we are a weirdo, aren't we, folks?
Steaming Chuck, thank you for that the stuff. What do
you yeah, how do you.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Think JD Vance's karaoke song selection changed over the course
of you know, his from when he first came onto
the national scene in twenty sixteen to now. You know,
he's probably like all Toby Keith now, but I bet
he was a creep back in the day, you know,
he seemed like he had some self loathing going on. Anyways, Miles, Yes,
(04:09):
we are thrilled, fortunate, blessed to be joined in our
third seat by a very talented writer, stand up comedian,
one of our favorite guests, co host of The Bechdel Cast,
one of the great film podcasts. They also happen to
have a master's degree in film. The most anagrammable name
in the English language, so if you've been given their
(04:30):
name in a jumble of out of order scrabble tiles,
you might know them as lorn and d Titanic or
nine tit Dracula or Latin dancer ut I. But to us,
they will always be Caitlind.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
I'm back, Yes, you are you back?
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Thank you so much. Oh my god, thank you so
much for being here.
Speaker 6 (04:56):
Oh my gosh. Nothing's up, down up, suspiciously. Yeah, nothing's
at that normal over here. Yeah, paid no attention when.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
You fucking leave me alone? Man, Next question, Urana, Yeah, yeah,
what what's good? We were talking Titanic sequels before before
the show started and were shocked. I was personally flabbergasted
to find that these obscure Titanic sequels were films that
(05:31):
you were familiar with. Well, are you really that shocked
about that? Also taken up back, calling them Titanic sequels
is a bit of a stretch because they're not sequels
to James Cameron's Titanic nineteen ninety seven, for example, But
they are. I mean, I guess if you're just looking
(05:51):
at Titanic as a cinematic universe, which you could I do.
So they're you know, they're in the lexicon, they're they're
they're in the zeitgeist. Will But the first see, the
first film that we're talking about, was called Titanic two,
so that does make it seem that implied, but it's no,
(06:17):
it's just that it's named after the ship featured in
that movie, the ship, because it's a replica of the
original Titanic. God damn, that just blew my mind. In
in universe, it's.
Speaker 7 (06:34):
Titanic too, exactly. How about that? Amazing?
Speaker 1 (06:40):
And in universe they for whatever reason called it Titanic two,
starring Leonardo DiCaprio in universe Billy Zane's Titanic two. By
all right, Caitlin, we are going to get to know
you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're
(07:01):
going to tell the listeners. A couple of the things
that we're talking about on today's episode. We're going to
get into the deep steaks, folks. That's the next big event,
is the thing that a lot of people are speculating about.
There are betting markets happening. So we just want to
talk about the stakes and who Kamala is going to pick,
(07:23):
and you know, who she should pick. We're going to
talk about it, and maybe who she shouldn't. I don't know.
We're going to check in with the weirdness. Yeah, the
just how jd Vance is dealing with being the vice
presidential candidate. Yeah, we need him cool, calm and collected.
(07:46):
He's just yeah, you know, it is now officially the
main story of the Trump campaign is like, Wow, that
was a bad VP pick, and so he is not
dealing super well with that. We'll talk about that. We'll
talk about his childless cat lady.
Speaker 6 (08:04):
Thing right here.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Yeah, I mean, along with a lot of the country
are child cats. Yeah, and fucked up. Not a good pick.
Speaker 7 (08:19):
We might talk about this Netflix interview show starring dead
people that I have a lot of questions about. Basically,
it's like we interview someone right before they die.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Oh wait, that's like the production. That means, Yeah, that's
like the thesis of the shows we present to you.
The last interview somebody did before they die. That's pretty
grim and how metal. How like the booking job. This
has to be the hardest show. Like, how are you
(08:52):
approaching people? How long does miss Lansbury have to live? Right,
we'll check back in a couple of months. We were hoping.
She was like right there.
Speaker 6 (09:03):
You know, you know those like in like retirement communities
or nursing homes, there will be like a cat speaking
of cats. Yes, they'll like sense that someone's about to die,
and then they like go into their room and like
wait for a couple of hours. Maybe they like follow
the cat.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Yeah, and then yeah, a little bit of yeah.
Speaker 6 (09:21):
And they're like, oh, they went into this person's room,
let's interview them, and then like an hour later they die.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Yeah. I like that. I like that. Yeah, I mean
that's and if they did that that would be compelling.
That would be really good TV. Yeah, So anyways, we'll
talk about that the cat of death. We follow the
cat through an old folks home and interview the person
they think will die. All of that plenty more. But
(09:48):
first Kitlyn. We do like to ask our guests, what
is something from your search history that's revealing about who
you are?
Speaker 6 (09:56):
Okay? So I googled Heaven's Gate Old, yes, because because
I was like, I let me just tell you the story.
Let me back up a minute ago.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
I bet you're wondering how Caitlin got to the search
history record scratch. There was a duop.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Group on every street court, So where do we start
this one?
Speaker 6 (10:28):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Sorry, so no, I love that search history story.
Speaker 6 (10:34):
Wow, I love that Deadpool is a verb.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (10:40):
I was watching the movie The Fabulous Four, which is
in theaters currently. If you're not familiar, it is basically
book Club, except Susan Sarandon is in at this time
in Staph Jane Fonda. It's four older women going on
a vacation. So it's it's that genre of movie which
(11:00):
I'm usually not very interested in, but I was like,
maybe I should just like give it a shot. Whatever,
So I want to go see it. It's horrible and
all of the jokes fell flat for me, and yeah,
I imagine that. Yeah, the writing was not good. And
they keep referring to this retirement community called Heaven's Gate
(11:23):
that like this one woman's daughter's urging her to like
go to even though it like nothing would indicate that
she would need to do that at this juncture in
her life. But she's like super religious and she's like, mom,
you should go to this. The daughter is who's urging
her to go, and so she's like, go to this
(11:43):
like Christian retirement community. It's called Heaven's Gate, and you
like see the broke sure and all this stuff, and
so they keep talking about it, and it's so it's
clearly setting up a joke that it's like, no, it's
a cult. It haven't you heard of the cult? But
they never make that joke. So I was like, am
I imagining things? And so like in the middle of
(12:04):
the theater, which I was in basically not exactly by myself,
but I was far enough back that I was like,
I feel okay about.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
You could have heard that the flap top and it
would have been okay, right, So.
Speaker 6 (12:16):
I pull up my phone. I was like, Heaven's Skate
is a cult, right, Like why wouldn't they like make
this connection, make this joke. Sure enough, it is a cult,
it's correct.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
So you thought they were like fucking with your sense
of reality because they weren't paying off this reference to
heav Yeah.
Speaker 6 (12:33):
I was like, well, maybe it's called something else. Maybe
I'm confusing it with another thing, Like yeah, so that's
how much this movie was trying to gaslight me.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (12:45):
Looks by the way, like, yeah, truly have the tracksuits right?
Speaker 1 (12:50):
The tracksuits with they had to stop making What were
the nikes? Were they? They?
Speaker 2 (12:56):
They they looked like a Cortes but there but it's
not a Cortes. It's they're called decades Okay, Yeah, and
they I'm pretty sure they stopped making them because everyone
was rocked. They're like, we don't need this endorsement for
the sneaker. Yeah, total dad chew.
Speaker 7 (13:13):
So it's probably a studio note, like they had a
joke in there, and then the studio was like, this
is a little bleak for people, for an audience we're
aiming for who is about to die.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
But did the heavens like did they ever go to
the retirement home? And it had culty vibes, so it
felt like.
Speaker 6 (13:32):
Okay, doesn't end up being like a plot point or anything,
but they are talking about it enough and the movie
is attempting to be a comedy, so you would think
that they would work that joke in there, right, but
they just don't do it. Yeah, just check out something.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
But you could make the same joke and do like
Heaven's waiting room or Heaven's lobby or you know what
I mean, like something where it's like you're about to
the pearly Gates because you but you can't. You may
not call it Heaven's Gate without us expecting you to
eventually talk about Marshall apple White, the cult leader who
(14:10):
got everybody that killed themselves after castrating himself. I remember,
they're going to catch you right on hillbop, Yeah, hell bop.
Like they had such rich lore, like it was really
a fun world building.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Man, Maybe they could have taken a note from the
cult and did the little fucking world building.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Than seriously, right man? Anyways, the Fabulous Four? Is that
what we're calling what the film was that?
Speaker 6 (14:36):
Yeah, not to be confused with The Fantastic Four.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Yes, yes, did you watch speaking of those like sort
of like late in life comedies, did you watch the
one about Tom Brady.
Speaker 6 (14:48):
Eighty for Brady?
Speaker 1 (14:49):
I did not see that one, okay, because that feels
like sort of firmly in this genre.
Speaker 6 (14:53):
Yes, yeah, and Jane Fonda is in most of these movies,
so it's kind of wild that you.
Speaker 7 (14:58):
Could against fabulous. I'm fabulous for anything. It's fucked up,
it is fucked up. I do feel like eighty for
Brady did pretty well and became a like thing that
people reference in the culture and the culture of very
old people. And the studio note was like, we need
(15:22):
to put like a number in the title for this
next one, you know what I mean. Like, I feel
like that I'm seeing a lot of studio fingerprints all
over this one, right right, Yeah, feels feels cynical to me.
It doesn't feel like real art. The working title was
an ornie for tom just maybe dial that back a
little bit.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Let's dial it back. What, Caitlyn, what's something you think
is underrated?
Speaker 6 (15:46):
So imagine this. All of my things are movie related.
Something I think is if you want to see a
movie about an old person that's really good and fun,
go check out Thelma. And I say that it's like,
I feel like I put it in the underrated category
just because, like I think a lot of people haven't
seen it or aren't talking about it. It's a movie
(16:09):
about an old woman. She's like ninety one or something
played by someone whose name I should already know.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
June Squib Yes, oh joom squib.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
I m j Yeah, and it's about It's like she
gets kind of duped by a phone scammer and then
decides she's gonna get her money back, so she goes
on this like quest to get her money back, and
(16:43):
there's like a lot of mission impossible, like spy espionage type.
Speaker 6 (16:51):
Yeah, it was super fun and highly recommend people go
see Thelma.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Okay, yeah, and uh, the late Richard Tree is also
in it.
Speaker 6 (17:02):
Did he recently die?
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (17:04):
Oh my goodness.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Yeah rip, Yeah, this is getting incredible reviews. June squib
one of our finest. June Squib was like kind of
not discovered late, like she was a working actor, but
like is having her big breakthrough kind of later in
the Squibs Squibs. Yes, we were all living through the Squibbistance. Yes,
(17:26):
I love that. What else has June squib been in
my Internet? Has stopped working for anything except this?
Speaker 2 (17:33):
I remember she was definitely in Hubie Halloween because she
was Hubie's mom.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Okay and hub Halloween. I remember that part we can
stop it, Hue that was what her fine work in
uh Nebraska? Yeah? What was she in about Schmidt? She
was yes, okay, yeah, yeah. I think that was like
one of her early roles. But she wasn't an animal Kingdom,
(17:58):
was she? I didn't.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
I don't think, Yeah, the most unsatisfying it. I'm not
gonna look it up. But if you feel strongly about it,
I won't push back.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Sure, go with it. What is something, Caitlin you think
is overrated?
Speaker 6 (18:25):
Another movie?
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Long Legs, Long Legs.
Speaker 6 (18:29):
Sorry, everyone, but.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Here's the thing, back to back Long Legs takes on
the show this week?
Speaker 6 (18:36):
Oh wait what what? What else was saying?
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Yesterday's guests were like it just check it out.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
It's fine, it's fun. Don't look into it too much.
If you like horror, great watch it.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Boom.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
It wasn't like sort of like a like a full
endorsement like this is the greatest thing. It's like, but yeah,
it's fun, it's just watch it.
Speaker 6 (18:53):
I mean, I think it is worth the watch for
some of the things.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
And don't got ajust, you got your own do you
know your own opinion? Is it fucking bullshit?
Speaker 6 (19:07):
I thought it was really good until about the midpoint,
and then it lost me, but I thought, I mean,
it's an effective horror thriller. I was, I was feeling
on edge the tensions there, but I think it gets
really goofy world building wise about halfway through and then
(19:27):
it completely lost me. So it was I was just
trying to do too much. So I feel like it
didn't live up to the hype.
Speaker 7 (19:37):
What.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Yeah, I just remember I felt like everyone was like,
oh I saw it, more than like, oh, it's the
best movie I've seen. Like, I felt like a lot
of people were just like yeah, I saw it, and it.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Was like, yeah, it was cool. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (19:48):
I guess now like when the early reviews were coming out,
you were I was like hearing things like I ship.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
My pants, get ready ship your pants. I know how
to move to change them. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (20:04):
Part of the marketing was the lead actor, whose name
I also don't.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Know, Nicholas Yep, forgotten. I got this one, this one
Micah Monroe.
Speaker 6 (20:21):
Yes, yes, there was this clip of her approaching Nicholas
Cage's character for the first time in the scene like
she hadn't seen him in his makeup like in character
until she was like as long as long legs. And
also my letterboxed review for this movie was like, his
legs weren't even that.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Long, misleading. It does play into your favorite format of
film review about radioactive Yes, but he was named after
a dang spider, you know.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Oh but in the trailer, yeah, they are being like
one hundred percent on rotten tomatos. They are definitely needing
it to be like flawless Victory, And I would.
Speaker 6 (21:05):
Say that is incorrect in my humble, yet expert film opinion.
Speaker 7 (21:10):
Your victory long legs just fucked your whole ship up.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
It made you, made you ship in your pants and
we're not paying for new pants. Guys being so mean
to us wick at you you ship your pants and
everybody himself? What what? Why are you? Are you so freddy?
(21:39):
This is like already already horror film. Yeah, but I'll
tell you one thing. It has long legs. At the
box office, I had to say, still earning, still earning.
It's neons top top film of all time.
Speaker 6 (21:59):
So oh okay, yeah, all right, good for well, I
mean good for that for them, it's worth seeing. I
just don't.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Yeah, it's not.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
It deserves quite all the hype that.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Flawless score. Go watch Blake Wexler's stand up special daddy
long legs and yeah, okay, yeah, how about that? Support
local artists?
Speaker 7 (22:18):
How about that? Okay, you want to support local artists.
You want to support long legs.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Yeah, you want to support long about a daddy is
daddy too with long legs, not some NEPO baby named Nicholas.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Yes, right, I'm gonna hear your uncles.
Speaker 8 (22:35):
Really making a scene on set to the nick. Oh
did you read that report?
Speaker 2 (22:41):
I remember when we were first talking about Megalopolis and
how he was like being fucking like he was touching
women and trying to kiss them during like the block
and all type scenes. Wait, yeah yeah yeah, And now
like more reporting has come out to be like, yeah,
I think a video is coming, he has sex grip gross,
I'm just trying to get him in the mood.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
You're like, dude, this isn't sixty two, right, and that
also wasn't appropriate. Yeah, yeah, but that's how we did things.
You're like, yeah, well, you know we've moved along. He's like,
dear lord, I sold a whole fingyard for this.
Speaker 7 (23:16):
All right, right, let's take a quick break and we'll
come back talk about deep steaks, and we're back. We're back,
and what's going on?
Speaker 1 (23:35):
So there's presidential's going on president you know, and while so.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
My question is call me Marvin Gay because I'm about
to ask, what's what's going on? Exactly one of the
great albums, flawless album actually.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
But the polls, look, here's what's going on. Just made
you ship your whole love this. The polls look much
better for Harris than Biden.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
There's that the numbers seem to show that she's closing
the gap between her and Trump. She also had a
pretty enthusiastic crowd in Atlanta on Tuesday night, like an
actual arena, was like was filled with people that real
hear yeah, that were real people that were cheering sincerely,
and there was a speech that had full sentences and
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no meandering and no sundowning. So comparatively, I'm like, wow,
this is they got something going here. So the vibes
are up, but they can be destroyed just as quickly,
since the VP pick is sort of the last step
to cementing the ticket and so there's a lot of like,
who's it going to be? Is a Jamie Pritzkers, Gretchen Whitmer,
is it Secretary Pete Buotages, is it Governor Tim Waltz
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of Minnesota, Governor Joshapiro of Pennsylvania, or Senator Mark Kelly
of Arizona.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Those last three seemed to be the ones that the
media is really.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Kind of dialing in on, and they all offer different
things to the camp PA, Like Waltz gets you a
lot more young people and progressives, and he's got like
a you know, a style of speaking to people that
appeals to like, like from what they see like swing
state voters.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Mark Kelly has like border and immigration cred on top
of being a yes and astronaut.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
And Shapiro has a sixty percent approval rating in one
of the more important swing states that Harris needs to
win the electoral college and one of the states that
she's performed underperforming in that is I think they're looking
at like, oh, that could help shore things up. And
there's a lot of chatter now about Shapiro because it's
sounds like Harris will be announcing her pick.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Next week in Philadelphia, so a lot of people are like, oh,
maybe the maybe.
Speaker 8 (25:43):
That means the governor of that state where you're gonna
be announcing the pick.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
But apparently the aides have told the press like don't
look into the location too much. It's just like just
like a focal point to begin this tour of you know,
some of the swing states that they need to hit.
But this is all just on paper. So, you know,
is Shapiro going to clinch it?
Speaker 1 (26:03):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
If you look at the electoral college mac right, Pennsylvania
has four more electoral college votes than Michigan and nine
more than Wisconsin. So if Democrats win Pennsylvania those other
two states, they can lose and still have a plausible
electoral college victory path. The research, though, shows that VP
picks seldom actually translate to any kind of advantage in
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terms of home state turnout and support. So while a
lot of people seem to be applying the logic of
Harris is down in Pennsylvania and Shapiro is popular there,
so he should be the pick, so she wins Pennsylvania,
there's no real merit to that argument, Like it's not
really born out in the data that you see, like
historically when it comes to presidential elections. So that's really
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like the only first tier argument I hear for him
like that, you know, like that's the only I'm sure
there are other are you like I guess the whole
mainstream media is doing their thing where they're like she
needs to tack even more to the center, okay, like
to the right, and he is the probably forthest right person,
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but right it, I don't know. He seems polished in
a way that I think doesn't work that well or
doesn't like add much to because she's already fairly like
polished in a way that I think some people find
unappealing in like Democrats, and then like his politics seem
to be the worst, and then the Yeah, the only
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positive argument I've heard is like beloved in Pennsylvania. Yeah,
and they've been they I was watching MSNBC this morning,
like they were talking to like potential Latino voters who
are there, like I don't like. They were saying like
I don't know, but I like Shapiro, so that might
help me. And sure that's one person. But they were
presenting it as if like, see that person said they're
more interested if it is Shapiro. But again, this isn't
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something that's supported by data. And again, if you're trying
to look more moderate, then yeah, Shapiro definitely helps with
that because there are people like you know, there's like
saying that Kamala Harris is like two left wing and
are like folks, sure, but no, let's be real here.
And like you said, his politics could definitely affect support
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among younger and progressives, younger voters and progressive voters because
he's a staunch supporter of Israel, like he attacked like
as attorney general, he was like coming after Ben and
Jerry's because they're like, we actually don't want to like
sell Ben and Jerry's in like illegal settlements.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
And he's like the BDS movement is out of control.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
He called student protesters who are protesting the genocide and
goaza like white supremacists and compared them to the KKK.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
He's like, down for school about your stuff.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
It's not great policy at all. And I think Harris
seems to understand, I guess somewhat. I mean, like when
net and Yahoo was in town, she didn't meet with him.
She had another engagement, but apparently was going to meet
in private. So a lot of people are like, well,
at least it sounds like visually she knows what how
to not appear because of this very delicate situation considering
the plight of Palestinian people at the moment, and that
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needs to be handled delicately, and I think especially now
because if you look at the news recently, Net and
Yahoo seems to be escalating things to a potential regional war,
like there have been a Hamas like and other Iran
proxy people who have been assassinated in the capitals of
Lebanon and Iran.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Okay, and getting.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Further embroiled in armed conflict is the last thing I
think most people. I mean, I think most people are like,
what the fuck? What?
Speaker 1 (29:29):
What? What do you need to know?
Speaker 2 (29:31):
We don't want to fucking get involved in another war.
So everyone's calculus isn't the same. But this is also
why I think it's important for the Harris campaign to
really begin articulating her policy positions on things like you know,
Medicare for all or like pathways to citizenship Because while
Mark Kelly gives you immigration cred because he's like in
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a border state, that might not play well with people
who are a little bit disappointed to hear like what
about pathways to citizenship? Like where we with that? What
are these other things that are gonna really bring out
more and more support?
Speaker 1 (30:04):
So is Kelly like tough on crime, border guy actually yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
he's a border hawk. Some might say fun.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
So that I think that's why there's all this kind
of like what are we gonna do?
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Like who's going to be the best?
Speaker 2 (30:18):
And I don't know, I mean I feel like from
what I've seen, Tim Waltz offers a lot. He seems
pretty relatable. He's really popular in Minnesota too. But then
other people were like, but he was the governor during
the George Floyd stuff that was happening in twenty twenty,
and like what can you do against those It's all
everyone's got their reason to not or to support, but yeah,
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it's there's you know, the Democrats could make the right
decision or one that doesn't seem to fracture the support,
because right now it feels like people because Kamala isn't
quite fully tied to Biden's policies, obviously she is by
being vice president, like there is this honeymoon period where
people can pretend like, I don't know, she might be
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completely different than what's happening right now, and so a
VP pick may kind of reinforce the thing as like, oh,
this is basically this is the Biden campaign all over again.
Or is this something different to have a bigger coalition
of voter support.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Yeah, all right, So the mainstream media takes I've read,
and this is gonna shock you guys a little bit
if you've paid attention to the mainstream media ever over
the past thirty years. They think she's gonna need to
tax center on this one. No way, I know, righty.
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Their read on the situation is that her campaign fell
apart in twenty twenty when she tried to embrace her
twenty nineteen when she tried to embrace like left leaning
policy positions, and of course by embrace we mean may
hollow gestures and speeches without like having any ideologically coherent
like you know, grasp and so almost feels like very
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centrist to me after all, to not actually embrace it
but just like make gestures and not have actual ideological
content in your platform. But I don't know she's.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Got again, there's an opportunity to really firm up support
by you know, having things that people want, policies that
people want, and for all this like tack to the center.
I'm like, the most Democrats and most of the people
you're trying to appeel to want things like like universal
health care right, want things like pathways for citizenship, want
things like a ceasefire, and with what I mean, Nen,
(32:39):
Yahoo's completely really change the playing field here, because like
you're you're negotiating with Hamas for a ceasefire, but you're
going after like you're assassinating they're the heads there, and
like how do negotiations go forward in that instance? It
feels like that it's really doesn't know, it's it can
only go downhill from here. Yeah, so yeah, a lot
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can be a lot can change, but I can also
like you know, we also see this habit constantly come
out from Democrats, which is like don't yeah, don't too
too much progress because it scares imaginary people that we
made up to maintain the status quo.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Yeah, the political analysts and strategists are no fan of
stack like sticking to or like going with a strong
take on a policy that's popular because.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Yeah, like I don't know how many people grown with
a Tim Waltz VP pick right. People will start groaning
about Josh Shapiro right just because you know, like his
politics are all there for people to see and considering,
like the how fractured Biden's support was over things like
his support for Israel.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Can she figure out a way because.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Like again, like I said, the people, the vibes are
good because people are still kind of like defining in
their own mind what this campaign can be before it's
actually articulating what those positions will be. So it's like
it's definitely a very there's an opportunity to either do
something that will really shore things up or cause more
you know, finger pointing and disagreement.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Yeah, the content of the speech in Atlanta seemed to
be playing from the playbook of like keep the focus
on Trump and also like play defense on places there
attacking me, like the border stuff. Like she specifically brought
up the border thing, so I could see her going
with Kelly because of that being a place where she
feels like she needs to play defense. So the betting lines,
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by the way, like Shapiro and Kelly lay out in
front plus one thirty seven for Shapiro, which means you
bet one hundred dollars. If she picked Shapiro, you win
one hundred and thirty seven. Kelly, you win one hundred
and sixty two. Tim Wallt you win five hundred. So
they're pretty they think that one's unlikely. Roy Cooper, you
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win fourteen hundred, those odds should go up. Now that
he's dropped out of the race, he's taken his name
out of contention. Andy Basheer is way back at eighteen hundred.
So I don't know, I feel like it.
Speaker 7 (35:10):
You know, the betters seem to the thing and they
are way out.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
In front on Shapiro and Kelly.
Speaker 7 (35:20):
So yeahs what like in the world of politics, what are.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
The VP success stories? Like, I feel like I only
have VP like horror stories where it's Sarah Palin, it's
jd Vance. I guess the success stories would be like
Pence not totally fucking Trump's first campaign up and Biden
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like giving making old white people feel okay about Obama.
But it's never like flashy, right, It's always like.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
And if you look at the people who the last
VP picks from, like the the elections, we remember, they
were all coming from states that weren't competitive at all,
like Dick Cheney's from Wyoming. Yeah, like Pence is from Indiana,
Kamala Harris is from California, So like, yeah, these aren't
these aren't necessarily like because I think if it were,
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if it were that easy then everyone would be deploying
this strategy to be like, what's the swing state we
need to win, that's the VP pick. It's just like,
while sometimes there are there are a few people who
make the arguments that it does matter, but like people
who've done deeper analysis on it, like now, the premise,
the premise that these sort.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Of research papers are based off over flawed, and yeah
they can you remember Tim Kane, Yes, holy shit, what
a strange energy that guy was working with exactly not
what Hillary Clinton needed, but that felt like one where
they were like we got a hold like shore up
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a battleground state, Virginia is important. And he was bilingual.
There was that. I think that was a oh yeah,
I didn't I didn't know that. Yeah, a lot of
people like he speaks Spanish.
Speaker 6 (37:05):
Was that Hillary's VP pick?
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Yeah, Hilary yeah, twenty sixteen.
Speaker 6 (37:10):
Yeah, I don't remember this dude at all.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
He was very not memorable and just had this really
weird energy where he would like, you know, say a
thing and then like translate it into Spanish with but
it was just like his facial facial energy. It was
all like cheerleader, you know.
Speaker 7 (37:31):
It was like you know when a cheerleader has like
a plastered smile where it's.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
Like I'm giving you enthusiasm all the time.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Yes, but yeah, the thing was even then, I remember
there were like poles that they're like even like Spanish
speaking voters like that's okay, not like impressed, you know
what I mean? Yeah, no, grass, yeah, because he was
doing like speeches too, like like in Spanish, and we're like, yo,
this ship is pretty impressive.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
But it just it wasn't enough. So again, it stands
to reason that it can maybe do more potentially to
hinder than to help. But I don't know. We have
to see how JD. Evans plays out. That'll be an
interesting test case.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Because this is someone whose favorability keeps fucking going down
sky right.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Well, I'm sorry, I guess I'm out of the loop
on those I thought that couch thing was gonna really
should we talk about JD? Because he continues to so
it's he's become a major story for the Trump campaign.
The fact that the narrative is now this has backfired.
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He is he was the wrong choice when you Google
I googled has VP ever, and the Google auto complete
has been replaced because a lot of people are thinking
that on the Republican side, like how do we get
out of this? So he had to come out and
just calm everyone down and be like, look, we're good here. Yeah,
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I just I know it looks weird because they made
up that line and every almost like that lie makes
me see you in a new way. But I am
secretly a riz god and get ready to be blown
away and melt in my hands.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Yeah, man, it's his He he gave a stump speech
in Nevada, and it started off like fucking terribly, like
just from the beginning of the speech. Let me just
play it the fucking just the beginning of JD. Van's
giving a speech, just so you understand where this guy,
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where he's coming from.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
They're excited. Now I have seen the consequences. Mike just
went out.
Speaker 7 (39:43):
Now he's tapping the mic, still talking, he's talking, he's
hand now doing a fake.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
Something about this Mike again, all dead air right now,
and then it comes back up there it is.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
So that's how the speech fucking started, you know what
I mean. Then he's got real like Ronda Santa's energy,
where like when he's smiling, you're like he's gonna kill someone. Yeah, exactly,
he is planning someone's demise. So again, his speaking ability
is second to many. But listen, this is this is
part of this is just again because he is a
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fantastic orator. This is this is him getting a little
momentum in his speech. Do we want to defund the police?
Do you wanted to do you want to ban fracking?
Speaker 8 (40:34):
So?
Speaker 9 (40:35):
Do we want a dangerous level liberal like Kamala Harris?
Speaker 1 (40:38):
What he's like doing a Kyle Mooney bit? Do I
do a little bit more? Yeah, he's he's not. Again,
he's not the smoothest. He's supposed to be the coherent
anchor to Donald Trump's electric motor boat. That he has
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to is between sharker electrocution.
Speaker 8 (41:02):
You at a little baby belt Jesus wait, liberal, please,
can I start over?
Speaker 1 (41:07):
Guys? My time out? Time out? You can't do a
timeout during a live speech. Then listen to this one.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
This is where he's just trying to talk about, like
you can thank Kamala Harrison Joe Biden for your high
gas prices.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
This is how he lands the plane on this one.
So when you fill up your pump, huh, when you fill.
Speaker 9 (41:23):
Up your tank at the gas station, maybe you should
send a bill to Kamala Harris.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
When you fill up your pump.
Speaker 7 (41:33):
He's just he's the everyman, you know, when you fill
up your pump on your.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
Car tank, gas fill up tank at gas station.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
I would give Kamala bill. I don't know, time out
defeated by the end of the sentence.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
Yeah, so he's he's not again, the Grand Wizard of
the KKK is not quite giving us the charisma that
is needed to power this white supremacist campaign.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
Unfortune for them.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
But then the part that really got a lot of
attention was again this guy.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
Everyone says you bang couches, and he says this, he's.
Speaker 2 (42:13):
Talking about people like people want, people want my wife
to come up and say something.
Speaker 7 (42:18):
This is him talking about two big like stories that
have been like circulating the mainstream media that have crossed
over from memes to like the mainstream meter or like
that he had that interview where he talked about his
wife and seemed apologetic that she was a person of color. Yeah,
and to like he was like, white supremacists don't like it,
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but I love it.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
I love her.
Speaker 7 (42:40):
And then the other one is the made up story
that he fucks a couch but he just like has
sluch couch fucking energy that it won't go away. And
here's how he tries to kill two birds with one
stone or.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
Or sideshow bob breakfest. Yes, he just another rake to
the face. Let's see.
Speaker 9 (42:59):
Now I would call her up here to come and
speak that. Then I think I'd have to sleep on
the couch tonight.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
So alone, there's like groans in the audience.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
I know they're like, what, like, so you so you
want to Cody Johnson retweeted that he's like, in fact,
why don't I ever come up here? That actually sounds
all right to me. Yeah, yeah, another night on the couch.
Speaker 1 (43:29):
But I don't know.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
Again, he's not leaning into it like someone who has
like a good command of irony and humor.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
Its just like it also comes off as like, dude,
you did you know? Did you mean to do that? Yeah?
Was he trying to be like maybe I can be
self deprecating about this, But he did it in a
way that like he bailed on the bit like immediately, And.
Speaker 6 (43:52):
So does it strike me as someone who has any
like the capacity to have a sense of humor about
himself or to like acknowledge So I'm like I think
he just was like, Oh, my wife's always his wife
is always curious with me, right, so I'm used to
sleeping on the couch And he didn't even make the connection,
which how embarrassing is that? That's my theory though.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
He and then on Wednesday he went to a diner.
I didn't put this one in the dock, but he
went to a diner and like with his wife and
two kids, and he didn't even like introduce her to anyone,
Like he just was like talking and like people were
just like, oh, hi, nice to meet you the wife.
Like in this he's like feigning family man stuff at
this diner counter while his kids are drinking chocolate milk.
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And it's like, again very awkward. There's like video of
like campaign aids like setting up the chocolate milk for
like this photo op of like kids just enjoying chocolate milk.
And then this is how this entire sequence interaction went
at a diner.
Speaker 9 (44:51):
Oh right, here she's just sucked down a full day
serving a chocolate milk.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
Here is this our bill here? Okay Roles right, yeah, okay,
I'm paying for these with money. I got it actually,
Yeah all right, now here's what we're gonna do. Thank you.
All those are big sentindoles. Those are big He's so
worried about he can't not start talking about nutrition the
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second he's around food, like she's just sucked.
Speaker 7 (45:21):
Down in days. We're serving worth of chocolate milk.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
Cool that you're gonna have a your your kids are
gonna have a very normal relationship to food when you're
like and she has taken her protocol of chocolate milk
for the day.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
This is actually what he says after he references the
chocolate milk again outside of the diner.
Speaker 1 (45:39):
So I'm doing great, man, I'm having a good time.
My family's here. They're hopped up on chocolate milk. So
it's gonna be a wild plane ride home. But look,
we're we're having a great time and I'm enjoying it.
Speaker 6 (45:51):
It's gonna be a wild played rendhod because they're gonna
ship the fun.
Speaker 1 (45:56):
We're gonna watch long legs, dude, They're gonna ship they're
fucking little pants, dude, of those chocolate milks. He is
so rotten, like he is so disanta's brained, like he
is exactly run to say it, like all of his
energy is like rond DeSantis. His relationship to food and
sugar is run to say, like they they had him
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do we we covered this on a previous episode, but
they had him do like a direct to camera like
behind the scenes of the campaign. This is what's fuel
in the campaign. It's junk food. I can't eat it
or I'd explode, blow up like a tip. Yeah, Like
it's just like God, what damn man? Like why you
like couldn't leave that out?
Speaker 2 (46:36):
Yeah, but these are also buddy if for some guy
who's like again, he really rich. He showed his ass
and he said, I'm drinking diet mountain dew, like, bro,
just yeah, just elect yourself, let yourself rot on the
inside like the rest of us, and drink the full
blooded mountain dew and then coming after staple American foods
like Lays and Snickers and be like, ah.
Speaker 1 (46:56):
I can't eat that garbage. That's for you.
Speaker 2 (46:59):
I'm an everyman anyway, So we're going to Peter Luger's
after Anyway, my kids are in big trouble for all
that chocolate milk they just conssumed.
Speaker 1 (47:08):
But soilent for them. I'm a man of the people. Yeah,
it's it's a tough one.
Speaker 2 (47:14):
So yeah, I think also alongside just all of this,
I do want to just touch on Jesse Waters too,
because the weird stuff is still continuing to like rock
their brains, like they don't know how to squirm out
of this, and now Jesse Waters is just now coming
up with like weird pseudoscience takes on why like you
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shouldn't vote for a woman and like why this whole
thing's a sham or whatever this is. Jesse Waters on
what this means to vote for a woman.
Speaker 10 (47:45):
Now, I don't see why any man would vote Democrat.
It's not the party of virtue, security, it's not the
party of strength. It's definitely not the party of family.
And to be a man and then vote for a
woman just because she's a woman is either childish, that
person has mommy issues or they're just trying to be
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accepted by other women. And I heard the scientists say
the other day that when a man votes for women,
he actually transitions into a woman.
Speaker 7 (48:14):
Oh is that right?
Speaker 1 (48:15):
Yeah, that's what the science's science.
Speaker 7 (48:16):
That's so is that one of the shows where he's
with like Democrats or something, Yeah, token Democrats who are yeah?
Speaker 1 (48:27):
I mean, and she's pretty.
Speaker 2 (48:28):
Good on the five is she Yeah, she actually typically
like fires right back in a pretty Jessica Tarlov.
Speaker 1 (48:36):
Is the woman who goes on there to represent like liberals.
Speaker 2 (48:39):
But yeah, anyway, he managed to full transphobia into that
fucking weird take of like shattered Masculinity's so fucking again weird.
Speaker 1 (48:50):
That's like weird. It's such a fifteen, like a fourteen
year old thing to say.
Speaker 2 (48:54):
Like dude, don't pick the don't pick the girl character
or you're the girl in the video game, Like what
And that means what what are we saying?
Speaker 6 (49:04):
None of what he said made And also like no
one's voting for her just because she's like men certainly
aren't doing that.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
Yeah, where's that? Yeah? Where is that group?
Speaker 2 (49:15):
I will only vote for a woman, that's my thing. Yeah,
and I do that to impress other women, that's why.
Speaker 6 (49:21):
Yeah, because men are obsessed with getting the social approval
of women famously.
Speaker 2 (49:28):
Right right right, So I live in such a utopia
of of equality.
Speaker 1 (49:34):
It is. It is a narrative that I'm seeing a
lot of places, like there's been this headline where it's
like the gap, the gender gap, and how it defines
this election more than any election ever, so I see
what they're trying to do with the data to be
like and that means you're not a man if you
vote for Democrat.
Speaker 2 (49:53):
Well, because with younger people it's definitely going that way,
Like younger men are like definitely ingesting more more and
more like sexist, misogynistic type content that is sort of
being more like into this like you know, trad wife ship,
but also like but with women and like women identifying voters,
they they're moving to the left. So there is this
(50:16):
like gender divide with younger people for sure, but to
the point where like you can just say, like, yo, dude,
your peep is gonna fucking go poof if you fucking
vote for Kamala.
Speaker 1 (50:26):
Now, I don't know how you know.
Speaker 6 (50:28):
Affect scientists say?
Speaker 1 (50:31):
Is that which scientists doctor pepper them? Okay, okay, the
scientists on YouTube are saying doctor Jordan Peterson, I ever
heard of him? All right, let's take one more break
and we'll be right back and we're back. And yeah.
(51:01):
So Netflix has this new show to remake of a
Danish show Downish called The Last Word, where you interview
people when they're about to die and then once they
are dead, you release the episode seems to be the idea,
and now Netflix is going to do it to American
(51:23):
nearly dead celebrities.
Speaker 2 (51:25):
I guess I I only know Okay, okay, I know
Stephen Sondheim is.
Speaker 1 (51:30):
I know who Angela Lansbury is? Who's the screenshot of
this already exists on the New York Times. The New
York Times has a like segment called The Last Word
where they interview like they do this already.
Speaker 2 (51:46):
So oh so the screencap I'm saying it's from the
New York Times already doing this item already existing.
Speaker 1 (51:52):
Netflix is like, We're gonna go even bigger. The competition
for nearly dead people interviews is going to be out
of control. I see.
Speaker 2 (52:02):
I mean there's I get the interest in something like
that because someone I remember having like very interesting conversations
with like my older fan, like my older relatives as
they were sort of on the brink of passing away
and like the sort of clarity that sometimes people have.
But yeah, okay, sure, I guess I need to see
(52:24):
it to know, like, am I that.
Speaker 1 (52:26):
Interested in what Stephen Sondheim has to say? Or is
he going to say something that's like truly.
Speaker 6 (52:30):
Are they going to say, do they say, like, here's
what I regret not doing or doing so that people
can be like, oh my god, right, I have to
follow my dreams or.
Speaker 2 (52:43):
Like because like they're just you know, sort of at
the end of their lives, like they just start saying
shit they really believe the whole time, or we got
to put all that on the cut and room floor.
I've never even heard that slur before.
Speaker 1 (52:56):
Is that a word? Even? It's just like a really
the the interviewer is like, so, spill bitch, what who
did you really hate? Andrela Lansbury right right, what do
you think Andrew Lloyd Weber Steven.
Speaker 6 (53:11):
That's good television? Actually that would be right right right?
Speaker 2 (53:14):
So on deaths door Step that's yeah, but not like these, Yeah, sure.
Speaker 1 (53:20):
I could see. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (53:21):
I'm just trying to think of who I'm really that
interested in because it's also like, for I guess this
also has no appeal to me generationally, like I when
I'm in my sixties or seventies. Then if when it's
like this, this is Jay Z on his deathbed or something.
Speaker 1 (53:36):
They like, what does Sean Carter have to say? Yeah? Yeah,
it does seem like it's fairly. It's the elderly right there.
I don't see a version of this where they're like
getting people who are young and on death store right,
But maybe, I mean that would be interesting if like
we had the Chadwick Bozman like interview that rite or
(54:01):
something like that.
Speaker 2 (54:02):
And I think, but for so many people, that's such
a private thing, like you know, obviously you struggling with
cancer privately and didn't tell people, so like, I think
it probably makes more sense for people who are like, yes,
I'm getting on in age, I don't mind doing this interview,
and so I'm like, hey, we heard like you might
be really sick, right, yeah, do you want to do
(54:23):
an interview?
Speaker 1 (54:24):
Like I guess that the producing style. I'm curious producing
like behind the scenes because they're you know, they're every
news outlet has their oh bits that are on deck,
you know, for very famous people who they think might
die soon. But they they don't like reach out to
(54:46):
the celebrity to be like, hey, could you fact check
this oh bit for us real quick? Because we think
you're about to die. So just reaching out to somebody
and being like, hey, you're about to die, right and
have them be like no feels like, I don't think
someone how far along they are, come on, don't they don't? Honey?
Speaker 6 (55:09):
Yeah, that's why they need this cat producer who just
can sends people are going to die and they just
then they blame everything on the cat.
Speaker 2 (55:16):
Right, easy, exactly exactly, that's smart to Yeah, I mean
I'm really curious to know like who the who the
episodes are going to be on before I can truly
be like, oh that might be interesting, but yeah, I
don't know. I've also, we live in a world controlled
by people about to die.
Speaker 1 (55:34):
So I'm like, I can't do they have the Biden
interview recorded already? You know, like that that would be
the intriguing thing, is like the making of this show
or you see the listening, like these people are all alive?
Wait right they have presumably they have a bunch of
shows banked with people who are still alive that we
(55:58):
might not realize or like out to die. So like
that they just need to make a website with all
the names like interested list, and then like have already
interviewed you know, Jimmy Carter? Is have they done the
Jimmy Carter interview? Did they do the Henry Kissinger interview?
Jimmy Carter is still fucking alive hanging around. Yeah, all right,
(56:25):
Caitlin Dorante, what a pleasure having you on the daily Zite.
Speaker 6 (56:28):
Guys, gosh, thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (56:30):
Where can people find you and follow you and hear you.
Speaker 6 (56:34):
You can hear me on the Bachtel Cast. It's available
on all the freaking platforms and podcasts listening places that
I co host with Jamie Loftus. And we are doing
a We're like introducing a screening of the movie Chicken
(56:57):
Run in Los Angeles, So if you live in the area,
come to the Los Felis three Theater. It's American Cinema
Tech has is like sponsoring a Friend of the Fest
podcast festival where they're having podcasters introduce screenings of movies.
So we're doing Chicken Run. It's on August twenty fifth
(57:20):
at four pm. Tickets for that are on the Bechtel
Cast link tree, so link tree slash Bechtel Cast. And
uh yeah, I'm pretty excited about that.
Speaker 1 (57:32):
Is that one of you?
Speaker 6 (57:33):
It's one of my faves. It's yeah, it's have you
seen it?
Speaker 1 (57:36):
I saw when it came out. I mean that was
just by the same people who may the sheep and
yes and yeah, yeah, I don't know if I've seen
Chicken Run specifically, I've seen a lot of their work.
Speaker 6 (57:50):
Well, come to the screening on August twenty fifth, bring
your kids. It's a family friendly.
Speaker 1 (57:56):
That's a Sunday too.
Speaker 6 (57:57):
It's a Sunday exactly four pm. Not a reasonable hour anyway,
So there's that, And you can follow me personally on
Instagram at Caitlin Durante. And then I have some screenwriting
classes that I'm teaching coming up in September, so I
(58:17):
have my intro class, so if you're like brand new
and fresh to screenwriting, that's the one for you. I
also teach workshopping classes, so if you already have a
bit of a background in writing for the screen and
you're working on something and you want to bring it
in and workshop it and get notes from your fellow
students and from myself, you can take that class. And
(58:41):
all of that is on my website Caitlindurante dot com
slash classes.
Speaker 1 (58:48):
Wow. Wow, amazing. And is there a work of media
that you've been enjoying.
Speaker 6 (58:56):
I saw the movie DD a couple days ago, and
I I'd recommend that it's a coming of age Story.
It's technically a period piece because it's set in two
thousand and eight.
Speaker 1 (59:09):
Okay, oh my god, right, how did they remember?
Speaker 6 (59:14):
How did they do it? But yeah, it's very much
in the vein of like eighth grade. If you enjoyed
that movie, so I'd recommend dd I liked it quite
a bit.
Speaker 1 (59:25):
D d I amazing Miles. Where can people find you
as their work media you've been enjoying?
Speaker 2 (59:31):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, find me on Twitter and Instagram at
Miles of Gray. If you like basketball, I just saw
that Anthony Davis got.
Speaker 1 (59:38):
Injured during the Team USA game.
Speaker 2 (59:41):
He did by as we record this on Wednesday, I'm
a Laker fan in disarray at the moment. But if
you want to hear us talk about the NBA and
basketball in general, you can also find that on Miles
and checkot mat Boosti's And if you want to hear
me talk about ninety Day Fiance, that show is called
for twenty Day Fiance.
Speaker 1 (59:58):
I'm just dealing with just seeing that trending on the
Internet and I'm like, that's not good. I don't know
what the extentive is of a one piece of media
you didn't enjoy.
Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
Let's see a couple of tweets I like. One is
from at kunt Fried. Rice tweeted my body is not
a temple, It's a World trade center and every day
is nine to eleven and at a Shikhupar tweeted, Hey guys, I'm.
Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
Hearing it's weird to approve arms shipments to Israel. Yeah.
I think I think that is weird too. I think
we need to look into that as well. Amazing.
Speaker 7 (01:00:32):
You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien
tweet I've been enjoying. Terran tweeted parentheses driving stones. Wow,
this should not be legal. That was my.
Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
Experience of driving stones. Very scared.
Speaker 7 (01:00:52):
You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're
at the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook
hamdpage on a website where we link off to the
episodes and our footnote no, which is where we link
off to the information that we talked about in today's episode,
as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles,
(01:01:14):
what is a song that you think.
Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
The people look I'm all about just having some nice
vibrations because it's already August and I told fucking November
to tickets.
Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
Sweet Time November.
Speaker 2 (01:01:26):
But this is a really dope track from this composer,
Giuliano Sergini, who is like one of these like iconic
sort of Italian composers who made a lot of move
like like theme songs and scores for like Italian television.
Speaker 1 (01:01:39):
This track is.
Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
Called Lavoro cerebra l A v O r O c
E r E b r A l E. And it's like,
just got this, like you feel like it's you're the
like it's the opening theme song for a movie about
you and you're driving a convertible like in eighties Italy
or something. It just feels like it's like feels good
(01:02:01):
when you listen to it, You're like, I can't get
stressed listen but having this playing right now, and so
I extend this opportunity to you, the listener to check
this track out by Giuliano Orgini Lavoro.
Speaker 7 (01:02:13):
All right, we will link off to that in the footnote.
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Speaker 1 (01:02:24):
That is gonna do it for us. This morning. We
are back this afternoon to tell you what is trending,
and we will talk to you all time.
Speaker 7 (01:02:30):
Bye bye bye
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