Voter Referendums SCARE The GOP, IDGAF ABOUT THE QUEEN 09.14.22

In episode 1330, Jack and Miles are joined by host of When The People Decide, Jenna Spinelle, to discuss… Michigan Ballot Referendum and the Importance of Text Kerning, Hannity: DEMS ARE OUT OF CONTROL LOOK AT ALL THESE CHARGES, The Soft Power Of Expecting You to Give A Shit About the Queen’s Death, The MTA Launches World’s Worst Covid Safety Poster and more! 

1. Michigan Ballot Referendum and the Importance of Text Kerning
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3. The MTA Launches World’s Worst Covid Safety Poster
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5. Meet the Mask Force, the MTA’s way to get you to wear your damn mask
6. Sign of the times? MTA removes COVID-era yellow subway mask posters
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8. MTA Will Spend $249M On New Cops to Save $200M on Fare Evasion
9. New York Transit Agency Intentionally Slowing Buses to Punish Riders for Fare Evaders

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to fifty four,
episode three of production of I Heart Radio. It's a
podcast where we take a deep dive into America's share consciousness.
And it is Wednesday, September four, two, Yes, Miles, Birthday
Eve for everybody that celebrates. You know, I just gotta

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dust my soldiers off. But it's also National Parents Day Off,
National cream field doughnut Day, National eat a hoagie Day, alright,
go to Uncle's. Yeah, National Sober Day, National Virginia Day,
National lot Live Creative Day. There we go, got it all.
Shout out to all of those things, and especially Birthday

(00:45):
Eve for the Yeah, are you is that your plans? Yeah?
I don't you know. I love a hog, you know,
I love a big grinder, substance whatever you want to
call and grinders nice. That's a song. You're just making
that up. Yeah, there's a Adam sandlerch song that I

(01:05):
believe going grinders. Oh he's grinders, Yeah, snappy Joe's uh,
lady rands. Come on, man, aren't you an elder millennial?
But yeah, you know, look it's sometimes because I'm getting older,
I like to pretend I don't know old ship and
I'm like, I don't know what that is. Adam Sandler,

(01:26):
the guy from Huby Halloween. That's the only thing I'm
familiar with him. I don't Oh he did other things
before that. Huh. Yeah, I'm I'm nineteen, so I think
I follow one of his kids on Twitter. Yeah, yeah, okay, okay. Anyways,

(01:46):
my name's Jack O'Brien a K. Has been a while
since those like gang referenced my milky thighs, and it's
been a while since I drank Mountain who not true.
And it's been a while since y'all's I wanted to
bite my feed again. And it's been a while since

(02:09):
I ran cracked too. Uh. That's Curtsey a T. DZ
Burner A little bit a while. It's been a while
since we did have been a while a K, so
we appreciate that. Speaking of the royal we in honor
of the queen who shots the Libby shots, the Libby
inspiration inspiration. Truly, you know, I'm just following the movement

(02:32):
of her body around with bated breath. I'm just following
everyone on Twitter being like my mom's surgery got canceled. Yeah,
I'm like, what is that soft power. We might get
into that today. No, it's just it's just they're just
they're just like they're a concept, massive, amazing truly. Anyways,

(02:55):
I'm throwed to be joined as always by my co host,
Mr Miles grad. Oh it's Miles Gray a K eight wa.
Actually we find the key. When my whole life spending wait, oh, like,
let me just actually let me let me find the
key right here, let me need my pitch pipe. Okay,
when my whole life spending money stolen from the pool

(03:19):
decades of ascension, I'm without a job no more. Now
I get to sit on the prone. Now, look, get
all this ship out. Mommy always said that I get
to big king someday. Now all of my subjects have

(03:42):
to do whatever I say. Now I get to sit
on the throne. Bring me stoling ancient bones, all right,
Shout out to King Charles Cavalier or whatever you call yourself. Bro, Bro,
you're there. That's all I think of whenever I hear him,

(04:04):
Whenever they say King Charles, and my mind to go
King Charles Kavlier. Oh yeah, I didn't even think about that.
Charles the third, he's ruining a great dog breed exactly Anyways,
Miles Weird thrilled to be joined in our third seat
by most of the new podcast. When the people decide
it is Jenna Spinelli, Oh, thank you both. I am

(04:27):
so excited to be here. I hope I don't have
to sing. Oh, I could not follow either of those
love in the love in the early odds vibes on
the show already. Login's voice is a little hard to do. Oh,
shout out, wopple House. That was That was Christie. I
was people. People don't know. The street continues when it's

(04:48):
that on point, and it's a it's that on point,
both timely and the lyrical. The words are all right
on beat. I gotta guess it's a yamagoch special. Shut up,
big Willie. H Jenna, where are you coming to us
from State College, Pennsylvania? Happy, Happy miney Lions? Huh indeed?

(05:11):
Oh man? Do you go to the sporting events, the
football or do you just kind of is that like
a monsoon season that passes by your window mostly? I
mean literally, I could see the stadium from my house,
so yeah, it mostly does pass by my window. But
I was in the marching band for a couple of years,
and I was an undergrad, but I would come home

(05:33):
and like barely even know if we want or not
or what the score was. So yeah, not not the
world's biggest football fan. Saxophone Okay, yes, okay, just got
to make sure I think I might. I think the
hand line from like the next strap like just went away,

(05:54):
like yeah, from those summer like grind sessions before that was.
I played in Bantu and I hated when like that
right before the school year starts. It's the football team
and the band who are like, damn, we're at school
before the ship he starts. Anyway, but laser saxophone tan

(06:15):
line removal? Did you have to get that? Or where
were you know? I mean no, I I wish I
would have thought about that, which previously would have would
have thought about that. Or you like mask your skin
off very specifically with sunscreen so you can you're just
accurately filled back in where yeah, make it looks like
a bathing suit tan line. Yeah, yeah, I get some

(06:37):
like convoluted like harness thing. Right. Amazing. Well, we're thrilled
to have you here. We're excited to talk to you
about ballot referendums and your your new show We're gonna
get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First,
we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of things we're
talking about. We're going to talk about about referendum Michigan's
about referendum and the importance of text earning yes, among

(07:01):
among many other things. But it apparently could mean the
difference between having rights or not depending on how someone
chooses to litigate that. Yeah, bad faith arguments from the Republicans, Yeah,
which I know nobody saw coming. We're gonna talk about Hannity,
how he's dealing with the many legal challenges to his
god Emperor. We're going to talk about the soft power

(07:24):
of the mainstream media expecting us to give a shit
about the Queen's death. We're going to talk about the
mt A kind of going back on all COVID precautions
and just being liked whatever if you do. You this
is fun. This is really disconcerting. Yeah, So all of

(07:46):
that plenty more. But first, Jenna, we like to ask
our guests, what is something from your search history? Yeah?
So my search history reveals that, although I love to write,
I can't spell to save my life. I often words
like initiative, and bureaucracy and entrepreneurship that I often have

(08:06):
to write for my job. You know, autocorrect doesn't even
get them. Sometimes I'm so far off, so I'm like
googling words to make sure I spell them correctly. So
why I love podcasting. Can write all you want, and uh,
it doesn't matter if it's spelled correctly. You're not. It's
all you have to it's only you that's used your script. Yeah,
I will say I've gotten better at spelling in my

(08:27):
old age. For somehow, I think just like the sheer
repetition of getting corrected by by spell like I had given,
I was like, well, I'm never gonna like be able
to spell I've never been able to spell bureaucracy. Yeah,
and then like just via being told that I was
spelling it wrong over and over again, I am the

(08:49):
proud owner of a knowledge of how to spell bureaucracy.
And yeah, I think a word also might have helped.
Oh yeah, I'm killer at spelling very short words. I've
I just I think I'm kind of the same, but
I just more devices of how I pronounced the spelling.
Like like I'm like, like when you said initiative, I

(09:12):
go yeah, and then when you said bureaucracy, I say
bury Chrissy. Well that is like the edits on this
show are super intended. Shoutout to super producer Justin because yes, yeah,
my Miles pronounced like, can you say restaurant again? I

(09:33):
mean rest Tower Ran. Yeah, that's like, honestly how I
would get like because something if I go, I would
always go phonetically by my ear and I would always
just like end up missing a letter. And then I
was like, Okay, you gotta let's really drill down with
these words and just saying how you like, be a
beautiful you are be a beuty. But that's how That's

(09:54):
what I say in my as I type, I'm like,
and you are be a beautiful, Like that's how I
spelling misspelling ship doesn't Like, that's not a thing that
really ever reaches an audience. But the thing I feel
like the new embarrassment is that we like mispronounced words
that we've just been reading in our head incorrectly for decades.

(10:16):
You know, that's that's always rough. You know, I have
hope now after Jack, after hearing that spelling, Yeah, you're
a very young person, and uh and Miles I'm never
going to think of those words the same way again.
I'm always going to go with the don't don't trick

(10:37):
yourself saying it right, just go with what it looks
in ititi in indiative. You know, I wish I would
have known that before I made eight episodes all about ballet.
Would have made my life so much easier. Where were
you six months? Are okay with referendum? Though? Yeah? Actually okay? Yeah,

(10:58):
that is a little bit. That's that you can wrap
your around that one. You don't just like words are weird,
you just stop using it, like ballot referendums. That's so
much easier. What is something you think is an over rage?
I would have to say getting on an airplane earlier,
like being the first to board an airplane. I know

(11:18):
some people might disagree for like overhead bin space, but
I do not want to spend any more time on
the plane than I have to, especially because I feel
like you, especially recently, like there's been so many horror
stories of like, oh we're sitting there for six hours
at the gate before we take off and all this stuff.
So why had any more misery to that than you

(11:39):
have to? So what's your what's your how does your
timing work? Like do you You're like, fuck it, I'll
be in group funk out of here at the end.
I don't care, Like I don't like what's your what's
your methodology to ensure that? Like if you are if
you're an early group, you're like, you know, I'll go
with everybody else at the end. Yeah, sometimes I'll do that.
And it's also like, so we have a really small

(11:59):
air ports in my town, and so it's like there
are like the planes are so small that your bag
doesn't fit in the overhead anyway, so everybody always has
to like check it plane side, and so I'm just
kind of used to that. But yeah, I just kind
of hang out the gate. It's it's fun to like
watch everybody like jockeying to get you know, their premiere

(12:20):
status points whatever, you know, just like watch all that
unfold at the game's like it's like the equivalent of
people like dudes in the key, like when a free
throws about to beat and they're like, hold on, let me,
I'm about to get my box out, Like yeah, yeah,
the little arm thing they do where they put their
arm on top of each other. I like to do

(12:40):
that with a stranger if I'm makes them on a plane,
just like put my arm above theirs, just to make
sure they know who's who's boss. And you're like, well
group are you and they're like hey, You're like oh
my okay, my bad. Yeah, I like to I like
to get in there early, you know, fill up all
the overhead space with just every everything I have with me,
and then just to stab likesh a very wide stance

(13:01):
in my in the taking your jacket out of your bag.
I definitely like I I now, especially with like mask
off plane like riding, I'm like, yeah, I'll go. I'll
take as a few breaths in there as I need
to now. But in the before times, when bin space
was at a premium, I was fucking shameless, like Jenna

(13:24):
I would. I will command my way onto like and
if we have any armed forces, people in the military,
active duty, I'm like, yeah, right here, okay, Like i
gotta get in here, bro. I see everybody got a
bag and I'm not checking that ship. I will steal
some valor. You're like counting the rollie bags like people
card County done that. We're in trouble. We're in trouble here.

(13:48):
I've never done that. Oh I have. I well, not
like that, you know, sort of precise, but I am like, oh,
I don't like these ratios. Do you have you ever
met people who are such professional travelers, like they're like
George Clooney in up in the air, Like they're like, oh, yeah,
I like this flight because it flies in seven from

(14:08):
like this year, and like those are actually really good
and like you just want to sit in business class
and it is usually like like business people who travel
for business a lot, and yeah, you gotta know what
the configuration is up there. Yeah, yeah to too. It's
a surprise. Every time I got on a plane, I'm like, wow,
it's a big one. Wow it goes up in the air,

(14:32):
and yeah, that's that's the surprise. I look at the
people around me, I'm like, what, oh my god, are
you going? Yeah, I've never been on one of these
buses before. What is something you think is underrated? Local news?

(14:58):
This is like the soap fuck the other soapbox I
have besides ballot measures is people knowing and following and
subscribing to their local news, Like whatever is happening in
your city, your town, whatever I can guarantee you is
probably far more consequential to your daily life than like

(15:18):
some congress person from a state you don't live in,
and like what they're tweeting about. Yeah, that's fine to
look at that stuff. That's that's great. I do it too,
But try to try to balance your reality. How are
you following the local news, because so Los Angeles local news. Like,
when I hear local news, I'm picturing, you know, a
person with a lot of hairspray in their hair reading, Yeah,

(15:41):
talking to me about violent crimes that have happened in
my town. And then according to my friend the cop,
he said, it's really bad and we shouldn't really delve
into that statement much more. Yeah, it's really bad out there, folks.
And then and then you know, a puppy or something
at the end to keep keeping feel good story, maybe
who like turns a hundred or something like that. So

(16:03):
you're saying that is the best thing for us to be. No, well,
that has its place, but no, I like, I'll recommend
to organizations. UM One is called the Institute for Nonprofit News.
It's a listing of like new like mostly online nonprofit
news sites. And the other one is called lying publishers.

(16:24):
That's also like a directory of local news startups across
the country, So they're in big cities, rural community suburbs.
Like people are starting these things up like crazy. So
that's exciting to see. And which one of these does
Jeff Bezos? Yes, I mean yeah, and how can I

(16:45):
trust it? I want him? So these like nonprofits are
like coming in and filling the void of all the
you know, local papers and just outlets that were shut
down by corporations or TV stations that are all like
all three of the TV stations in my market are
all owned by Sinclair Broadcasting. Yeah, and every every anchor

(17:11):
is giving some same version of like a op ed
that was forced down their neck hours before a yeah
for sure. Yeah, that's that's good that people are actually
like filling that gap, because it does feel like Facebook
is the way that a lot of people have filled
that gap. And and then you know those neighborhood apps

(17:32):
that are just like the store and like, yeah, they
weren't white. I'm scared this This person's car was loud.
I think it rattled my window. Should I call police? Yeah? Yeah, alright,
let's take a quick break. We'll come back and we'll
talk about some of the stories and we're back and

(18:06):
let's talk about this Michigan. Michigan ballot referendum. Three words
that I can spell and the importance of text Kerning. Yeah, So,
ballot initiatives, referendums, they've got a lot of attention, especially
since the Dab's decision, because you know, it's the process
that allows the voters to propose new laws if you

(18:27):
get enough signatures saying like hey, I got this idea,
there's enough support from the voting from the voting populace,
but now let's create initiative to vote this in and
say have the people have their say. We've seen this
work in a couple of ways. Sometimes it's for the
good of like working people. Other times it's like uber
being like hey man, we're chill and like look at
these people we put up to saying that like we're

(18:48):
a good company, and we'll pretend it's them putting this
together rather than us. The corporations that are exploiting drivers
put this ballot initiative together. They spent million dollars like yeah, yeah, yeah,
a little bit here and there away. Yeah, and currently
in the US or in California that is pitting local

(19:11):
indigenous tribes against draft Kings, and like it's like the yeah,
every NFL game has ads that are like, hey, come on, bro,
you want to bet like your friends and other states
sucks that you can't. Well now you can thanks to
Draft Kings. And then like a very you know, straightforward

(19:35):
ad being like, hey, this really fucks us, and like
you've already been sucking us for so long, so could
you not Yeah, well you can use the fucking apt
to vote on Aaron Rodgers. Okay, no things, but yeah,
this has been like it's been part of the political
discussion for a minute. And in Kansas we saw, you
know this, the like ballot referendum deployed a new, very

(19:56):
cynical way because Republicans in the state proposed this constitution,
the amendment that said the right to an right to
an abortion is not enshrined in our fancy state papers constitution,
and if we vote this in, we can say that
it doesn't have no one has this right. And they
thought that they would have a voter turnout advantage. Unfortunately,
they didn't factor in the idea that this is just

(20:19):
really like not palatable for people who care about their
fucking rights. So, uh, they tried to sneak it through,
but oh they lose one, and it was a huge
win for securing healthcare for people in Kansas and the
surrounding states where people do not have safe access. So
it's like it's also these results that have the GOP
realizing how unpopular their policies of forced birth are. So

(20:40):
it makes sense that giving people a reason to vote
to secure health care for people would be a terrifying
prospect for them. That's one of the reasons why Lindsay
Graham is trying to get ahead of it and be like,
I'm proposing a federal ban at fifteen. We'll get to
that later because talk about not being able to read
the room. So this is where Michigan comes in the state.
Is he balanced in terms of like their political representation

(21:02):
right Democrat governor GOP state legislature, The congressional reps are
split split pretty evenly between both parties. They voted Obama
twice Trump in like they're just it's it's a good
sort of bell Weather. I guess to see like where
the middle of that like curve is in terms of
support for safe access for abortion care and voters are

(21:24):
able to get a referendum on the ballot that would
enshrine abortion rights up until fetal viability. So they were
able to get seven hundred fifty thousand fucking signatures for
this thing. You only need four thousand in Michigan to
get something on the ballot, so a good indicator of
the kind of support for this. And this has made
the anti abortion crowd very nervous, and they did their

(21:45):
best to try and get it taken off the ballot because, drumroll, please,
the text was too close together, so no one knows
what this referendum even means. Guy, And they described this
very legible text or this bill as being quote groupings
of letters that are found in no dictionary and are

(22:06):
incapable of having any meaning. So please take this off
the ballot. And they kind of got the request, but
then it went to the Supreme Court and Supreme Court's like,
no funk out of here, put that ship back on,
Like that was such a such as wack as reason
to have this taken off. So if you look, there's
a sort of excerpt from the bill, and look, I'm
not gonna lie. We're looking at like the text is

(22:28):
the letters are funking so close together it is wild,
but not to the point where I go, yeah, like
there's a whole very legible paragraph explaining like what what
the initiative is, and then like three lines down there's
one that has like sort of a weird thing happening
where they've tried to cramp too many words onto the
same line and end. It's a mess, but you know,

(22:51):
bad curning, but probably does not invalidate anybody voting for this.
I don't think anyone was like thrown off, like I'm
just voting for Google. That's yeah, that's kind of my
thing that I'm passionate about. Giving me off with this
ninth line here, so waiting. There's also like a voter
guide that goes out to people, And I have a

(23:15):
friend who was just in Michigan on vacation and he
was like, yeah, I mean this is everywhere. You can't
like drive down the road in Michigan or turn on
the TV or anything without seeing this. So yeah, if
you are relying on this one particular block of text
is your sole source of information, I find that a
little hard to believe. Right, where does your passion for

(23:36):
kind of talking about bout initiatives and referendums, Like what
what what is your interest in them? Because I think
I'm mostly familiar with them for from things like uber
like forcing something through or something like that. Yeah, yeah, so,
I mean I I really like that it gives like
everyday people a voice in politics. Now, as you said,

(23:59):
like that doesn't all aways happen and there you know,
the tool itself is doesn't discriminate that way as to
like who can use it. But I think that in
situations where the legislature is disinclined to act, but there
is something that has broad public support, like we've seen
with you know, marijuana legalization, minimum wage, expanding voting rights

(24:20):
and now you know, reproductive rights, it it seems like, um,
I just love that. Like it's not about like Team
Read and Team Blue, or like this candidate and that
candidate or just a lot of the tropes that tend
to dominate our politics. It's like people out there like
doing stuff and actually like fighting for the Chaine that
they want to see and building new coalitions in the process. Right,

(24:43):
Because it's never stuff like we think we should actually
have some red redistricting going on that will help Democrats.
That's my ballot, And like my proposal. No, like you're saying,
it really is just like you know, like with like
a lot of people are looking at this referendum in
Michigan right because both parties are very anxious to see
the results of this and kind of understand where the

(25:05):
country is on this, even though the polling is very
clear on where most people are. But it's just also
you know, it also allows for our leaders to just
kind of sit back and not do the right thing
that is obvious and be like, well, let's wait for
this so then we can try and triangulate, which is
why I think sometimes like these ballot initiatives do help.

(25:27):
Like people say, we're way ahead of you, so you
know what, maybe we just need to maybe we need
to do something to sort of have a catalyst for
the kind of reforms we're looking for. Yeah, and I
think we we're definitely seeing that now because the other
big thing on the ballot this fall are you know,
several states, particularly like states with Republican legislatures, are trying

(25:48):
to make it harder for people to use the initiative,
like they're upping the signature requirements, they're changing the number
of votes it needs to pass, and so they're trying
to like crack down on this because it has been
used to pass you know what what can might be
seen as as progressive. I'm pointing out an air quotes
policies of minimum wage, medicaid expansion. So they're trying to

(26:11):
take back some of that power that they feel. They
fust has it been used to like institute higher minimum
wage and think, oh it has. Yeah, Medicaid expansion passed
in Idaho, minimum wage passed in Florida, and I believe
one or two other states. Yeah, these things kind of
catch on and it has teeth like that changes too,

(26:33):
like that causes That's that's great, well, and that's why
it's so dangerous, right because you can enshrine these things
into law, and then on the other side you can
have cynical, wealthy groups of people or industries be like
what if we don't use clean energy, you know, and
like and what if we wear this in a very
confusing way. That's also kind of the insidious thing about

(26:54):
them attacking the Kurning and how confusing the like writing
on three of the lines is that the way that
the Ubers and you know, the Republicans and Kansas try
to convince people to vote their ways by making it
extra confusing, Like some of the California ballot initiatives that
I've voted on since living here are you know, just

(27:18):
triple negative, like just a mess, and you really, you know,
you do need that voter guide to tell you what
what's what? Yeah, it's like like verbal jerrymandering or something
like kind that in written form. Yeah, And it's always
like when I when I was doing a lot of
ballot initiative stuff in California and my political days, I

(27:40):
remember very like when I first started, like and I
was very naive and optimistic and I was like, what
about this? But they say it's bad and like one
of these like surly like grizzled, like you know campaign veterans,
like look at the fucking print at the end of
the ad define print that says paid for by. It's
probably gonna have some weird name him, but it's going

(28:00):
to be pretty clear who they sighed with there, and
then you can get an idea of who this helps.
And I was like, oh, thank you, thank you. And
also even then I need to scratch paper to keep track,
and they're saying no on this, so they mean yes,
on marijuana cage. But what also reveals how underhanded you
can be when you have a ton of money, you

(28:21):
can just create these like sham advocacy groups. Like in Michigan,
they the group that was going or trying to repeal
this ballot referendum was called Citizens to Support Michigan Women
and Children. And you're like, that's what that does. But then, yeah,
I guess that's what my question. Is there a bias
towards lay masses, Like has there been a bias towards

(28:44):
like the bad guys to this point or is it
just like the big famous cases from the last few
years have been used for bad purposes. That's you know,
I think like any political tool, there's there's there's both
for sure. Yeah, yeah, And it is hard to get
these things repealed in in some cases, especially if it's

(29:05):
something that the legislature and the courts want to keep,
like we in the in the series. One of the
episodes is about three Strikes in California, Like that was
an ball measure pass in the nineties and they've been
trying to get rid of it ever since. There's something
on the ballot this year. There's something else planned for
twenty four, like they're still trying to reform it or
hopefully get rid of it all together. Yeah, and you know, meanwhile,

(29:30):
Lindsey Graham is out here talking about now he's not
talking about he is saying he's going to introduce a
federal abortion band bill when Republicans take the Senate, and
most people are like, have you not heard how fucking
unpopular that staying, I don't what are you talking about?
But since most decisions at the highest levels are made
by dudes, so that think they are not intergalactic levels

(29:52):
of out of touch, they believe that this bill helps
the GOP. And what they're doing, what they insist on,
is that they're operating from this framework that they believe it.
It's like by us saying we want a fifteen week band,
we're gonna sort of we're going to show how we
counter the Democrats rat quote unquote radical policies of the

(30:12):
always used words like late term abortions or abortion on
demand to try and be like they'll do anything. They
don't care about anybody, and they fail to recognize that
their stance is basically, you don't have say over your
own body. And there's really no way to lighten that up,
but and I think it was Axios. They were saying, quote,
Graham's bill is designed to present Republicans as being more

(30:35):
mainstream on abortion by pushing a partial band over either
a full band or what they characterize as democrats quote
abortion on demand position. So they're like, hey, we're fine,
this a little bit of a band, Like we're not monsters,
wink wink wink. We are Okay, We're um and that's

(30:55):
this is all just it's all tactical, just piecemeal ship
because at the end of the day, what they want
is a total band. Yeah, so hopefully I mean that.
It seems like that's a bad strategy, like a bad
by him. So well he he looks so nervous at
this press conference. He was like yeah. They're like, have
you talked to Mitch McConnell about this fam And he's like,

(31:19):
I talked to these ladies, these ladies behind me about it,
and they were like, yeah, yeah, we talked to him.
It was like very odd. I don't know what's going on.
But it's again not a good look. But like we see,
like time and again, like the decisions that are made
by politicians, like on either side, like people failed to
realize how fucking out of touch they really are, and

(31:40):
they're like up and this is great, and people like
you just said the Dobbs decision was good because it
allowed states to make this decision. Now you're pushing for
a federal band. He's like, well, the Democrats wanted to.
I think, he said, the Democrats are defining who they
are with their bill, So we're defining who we are
with this one. Yeah. I mean, while other Republican candidates

(32:01):
are like furiously trying to remove abortion references from their
websites and deleting old social media posts and all this
kind of stuff. Yeah, what are some ballot initiatives like
victories in the recent past or upcoming that you that
you're kind of inspired by and covering on your podcast.
So there was there were a couple in eighteen. One

(32:26):
was the Amendment for Campaign in Florida, which restored voting
rights to formerly incarcerated people that passed with like sixties
something percent of the vote. Like we're saying, some of
the minimum wage campaigns, and there's been some really interesting
ones to curb predatory lending as well, like paid a

(32:47):
loans and all that kind of stuff. So I mean
not like the sexiest issues, right, but stuff that like
really matters to people. And and of course I'm I'm
following all of the reproductive rights measures closely, and I
think that, you know, depending on what happens in in Michigan,
if the right to abortion is upheld in the in
the state constitution, I think we could see that it

(33:10):
tried in other states. Kind of like marijuana like started
in Colorado and California. Now it's like it's on the
ballot in like Nebraska and Oklahoma and all these places.
And so I think that, you know, we could definitely
see that become part of the reproductive right strategy moving forward.
M hm nice. Alright, let's let's talk Hannity real quick. Man.

(33:32):
He was on one on his show the other night,
and yeah, he's basically trying to list all of the
crimes that Donald Trump is accused of as proof that
everybody else is crazy and that Donald Trump is like
being persecuted. He's being persecuted. Man, Like conscious pilot right now, Barabbas. Yeah,

(33:56):
and you got ponscious pilot over here. Merrick Garland just
doing whatever he wants to. But you know, this has
been a wild week, like just in the last couple
of days, right that just beyond the Mara Lago classified
documents thing, there are new subpoenas for Trump's like that
in regards to like Trump's spund raising like practices with
his superpack, potentially opening up some like wire fraud charges

(34:19):
for the dumb Dumb's got subpoena by the d o
j for their part in the fake collector's plot. Hey
dumb dumb here. Hey, hey you Bore s Epstein. Yeah,
here you go. You're dumb dumb. You've been serving out
of here. Uh. And also the Senate Judiciary Committee announced
that they would be investigating Trump's like misuse of the

(34:40):
d o J. A is like his like attack dog.
That's just in the last two days. Okay, so handed,
He's like, what's going on. They're doing everything they can,
And in this he goes down this list of all
of these fucking crimes he's being investigated for, as if
to say they they're just so obsessed with this guy,
aren't they. But it's it's like the worst cell phone

(35:02):
I guess that you could see because it's wild to
see this list of charges copin you can't fucking believe
it or is witch hunt. The emoluments clause investigation from
the House Oversight Committee, a House Ways and Means investigation
into the Trump's taxes, Another House investigation into Trump's hotel ease,
Another House investigation into far gift disclosures, a dcro the

(35:27):
Trump's inauguration fundraising, another similar investigation from the Southern District
of New York and the Eastern District of New York,
and from New Jersey's Attorney general. One impeachment investigation into
a regular phone call with Ukraine. A second impeachment investigation
into January six yet a regular phone call, just no

(35:50):
bias there. He was having a perfectly fine it was
an excellent phone Weird, you are supporting a con artist?
Does that? Maybe? Maybe, maybe that's the answer to the
number of crimes that people are No, he's not a
path someone who has used every amount of power he's
gotten to bully and commit more crimes. And he we

(36:14):
made him the president of the United States. It's but
it's bonkers. Yeah, like he he commits crimes like other
people breathe. Yeah, this is this doesn't surprise anyone except
you get over it. The emoluments clause like whatever, that
just did the wrong place at the wrong time, like

(36:35):
different times. I mean, you know, I don't even really
the John McClain of you know, the Bruce Willis and
die Hard kept showing up at these places that would
get terrorist attacked. That's like terrorists attackeded, I think is
the correct. Yeah, he got dactyl. He he just kept

(36:57):
showing up with places where people were doing fraud and
crime and then joined in on it because pressure. He's
just uh, he's just got to get new friends, you know.
I think he's a deal there. But yeah, this is
all I mean, I'm really curious to see how when
Sean hannerd Hannity begins to intersect with a lot of
these investigations. That's always interesting with like him and even

(37:19):
like Lindsey Graham earlier were like there's a lot of
smoke around, especially with Lindsay Graham where he's like, I
don't want to testify about how I may have meddled
and shipped in Georgia. Yeah, just a I don't know.
Everyone is waiting with bated breath to see, uh anything happens,
to be honest, I think that's really what it is.
It's like, oh, when's it happening. It's like, is it

(37:41):
gonna anything or like Lindsay Graham, like, look at this
abortion ban over here, so you're not looking at all
this other stuff. Don't talk about me being you know, indicted.
Maybe I don't know. Look, maybe this will be a
smoke bomb that will distract everyone, but I think at
this point it's just getting him a lot of people
just confused. And like this guy fucking stinks. This guy stinks. Yeah,

(38:05):
and he's even gesturing at a thing that is like
politically a loser for him, but just anything to anything
to make noise and you know, rile people up. But
this does the abortion band really really does seem to
be a loser for them, and they don't seem to
be able to come to grips with that. Yeah, Oh, Linda,

(38:26):
there's a just all this click went up. I don't
know what it says, but Mitch McConnell has just been
asked about Lindsey Graham's abortion bands. So maybe this will
be good, maybe it won't, But I just want to
play it to hear what Ms McConnel has to say abortion.
If you take off asked if you take the cent,
we put it entirely to the States. Well, with regard

(38:51):
to his bill, you'll have to ask him about it.
In terms of scheduling, I think most of the members
of my conference, I prefer that this we don't with
at the straight level. That's someone who listens to the
pools and also sheep in the middle of that sense

(39:11):
he's looking. I mean, look, if Mitch is sweating too, man,
he's losing control. Also, you'd love to see it. But
also it's at everyone else's expense. So I don't know
what to make of it, right, all right, do we
have anything that like leads point points to Hannity being
involved other than just the fact that he was likely
Trump's like number one advisor that oh they were mean, yeah,

(39:33):
there apparently him and many Fox people, right wing news
people come up in text messages that have been you know,
obtained by the d o J or the committee. So
I don't know, but it could just be stuff where
like we've seen he's like, hey, man, tell Trump to
knock it off. Man, it's a bad look. Or if
he's really also you know, if it gets a little

(39:54):
bit more insidious than that, not sure. All right, let's
take a quick break. We'll come back and talk about
the queen. Mm hm, and we're back and yeah, the

(40:16):
mainstream media just seems is like continues to be paralyzed
by the death of the queen, just like the number
one trending thing on Twitter, like that's all that's on CNN.
Just everything is just about where her body is right now,
Like this is where we're recording this on the day

(40:36):
that her body was being transported, and like the Queen's
body or the Queen says goodbye to Scotland for the
last time, and just this like false solemnity or maybe
they are solemn, maybe they are really like broken up
about this ship. But it's I don't know. It seems
like everybody I know is looking at this and being

(40:59):
like still they're still talking about this ship, like just
anything to talk to, not talk about what's going on
in this country. I'm sure be ready to. Like it
looked like MSNBC just took a black suit vacation to London. Yeah,
the channel round the clocks, like Katie Turr or any
of the people just all block. Oh and then we're oh,

(41:20):
this is all moral, Oh, this is this is King
Charles acting like an absolute child, losing it over a
pen every bloody time, be stinking things shut. I don't
give a fuck. Is that? What do you say? Have
you seen that clip where he had the clip where
he like dusts it away, like no, he's signing, and
he's like getting so mad. He's like, I've said the

(41:43):
wrong date? Is it the twelfth of thirteen? I can't
it's hold on, I'm gonna pull it up because he's
he is very whiny about a pen, and then like
I guess he may have gotten like ink on his
hand and Camilla is like, oh no, hold on, I'll
play it to you, and like this is on CBS,
is like a Twitter account. They're like, check out him
signing this piece of paper. Oh god, it put the

(42:06):
wrong date down. She said, you signed the twelfth prilier.
It's the pen. It's going everywhere. And then people are
rushing in to take the pen from her and help

(42:27):
him wipe his hands, like somebody just walked into the
room with a revolver, Like there, did you hear that? What?
I can't bear this bloody thing? What they do everythink
he's talking about a fucking fountain pen. Shut the funk up, dude,

(42:53):
that's the bane of your fucking existence. This bloody thing.
I'm now the fun king everything time. Every can't bear
the bloody thing. It's hiring. Yeah, it's truly exhausting to witness,
and it's it. It is interesting to see the mainstream

(43:16):
media continue to just press and press and press and
like make, you know, pretend like we give a ship
and that. Look, I'm I'm going to continue to use
the fact that the queen died as an excuse to
cancel social engagements and like play dates for my kids
or like meetings that I miss at work. That's because

(43:38):
I'm a lazy and bad person and I'm not going
to sit here and pretend like this is not a
great excuse because the mainstream media has given us license
to do that. But I it just feels so I
feel like we this story is a new level of
like out of step with how people actually feel. Because

(44:02):
we have social media, we're able to at least have
other people we we can blooe and like see other
people booing, like hear other people doing like like the
young man that was arrested for calling Prince Andrew a
sick old man. Yeah, it's not just the accidents. When
the CNN reporters like and how devastated are you, and
the woman's like not at all. Sorry, I'm not into

(44:24):
fucking and that. Yeah, okay, fair point, moving them along.
But yeah, I know, I feel like maybe the news
anchors just they've been in Ukraine with their north face
fleeces on for like six months. Maybe they just wanted
to break put on their nice clothes for a little bit,
you know, they go back there. And the story about

(44:47):
Jeff Bezos quote tweeting CMU professor Carnegie melon which you know,
Carnegie Mellon is the name of the university, so professor
dr Ujuna who said she was glad the queen was
I hope she experienced pain, and Jeff Bezos quote tweeted
that and said, this is someone supposedly working to make
the world better. I don't think so. Wow, but it's

(45:13):
just because we don't have God. I don't think so.
I think this is the thing, right us not giving
a funk. I mean, look, it's one thing for us
to be in the United States not give a funk
about the queen. That's its own thing, but like for
most people to not give a funk, especially people from
like the Commonwealth and former colonies. It's like just an
acknowledgement that's like we don't have God's like we don't

(45:33):
think this is a God, this is well right or
whatever it is God's and kings these concepts that we
have people in positions that make them fucking untouchable or
that we would never dare to speak ill of them.
A lot of these other people think they are you know,
like Jeff Bezos does probably consider himself on some level
like this exalted person and it's probably holy rationalizes why

(45:56):
has so much money because I'm doing something great And
this is how they would talk, that's how you make
the world better. No, I make the world better because
I'm making a spaceship for three people, right that I
get to ride around on and go right, and it
would be it would be really like we talked about this.
I think maybe in the trending episode that the the

(46:17):
idea that they might not be able to control their
legacy in after death is probably one of the most
horrifying things, where they're like, are people gonna see walk
on my grave? Well, it's just like yeah, even in life,
Like I feel like he's feeling panicked because this is
the destabilization of the same unspoken rules that keep him

(46:39):
cause it it away from criticism, you know, like he
is someone who has accumulated immoral wealth and spends all
his time thinking of ways to protect that wealth by
maiming people without consequence for the purposes of like purely
greed and maintaining a power. So like anything that is

(47:02):
like chipping away at the armor of people just being
like it's to have some decency, folks. And even Carnegie
Mellon University came out like disavowed her tweet, which is
very fucking frustrating, Like this is supposed to be a
a institution of higher learning and instead they're like, we

(47:23):
we're all for personal expression, but for some reason not
in this case because Jeff Bezos called it out. Could
you imagine he's like, I might have to withhold that
endowment if you don't tweet something that makes me feel
good about my little spat I had with the person
who was correct. Yeah, but I think it's like many
other things, man, like we hold these we can't like

(47:46):
America can't reckon with its like fucking foundation of violent
colonization and slavery, Like we cannot fucking talk about that,
like plainly oh, you're extreme, and it's the same ship,
like they feel that some institutions are unassailable and to
begin to deconstruct that, I think is the first steps

(48:08):
to people unshackling themselves from these fucking fake gass histories
that we tell ourselves to be like fine with everything
that's happening. The number of enslaved people is growing currently,
like that, the United Nations head set a goal to
eradicate all modern slavery by between the number of people

(48:29):
enforced labor of forced marriage grew by ten million because
we were seeing increased inequality and because of climate change,
which is again caused mainly by massive corporations being not
held accountable, like the exact same ship that Jeff Bezos
is benefiting from and worried about when he decides he's

(48:49):
going to come down and you know, police the speech
of somebody around the death of the queen. Like that,
it makes a lot more sense, like once you kind
of think about it in the context, like capitalist power
isn't just enforced through human caging, although that is like
the main way it's enforced, but it's also through instilling

(49:10):
in us like values that make the monarchy or you know,
jeff Bezos or presidents seem decent and pleasant and you know,
speak to us when you when you internalize that ship,
it ends up speaking to you in your own thoughts,
like when you're when you're alone, you're like outnumbered because

(49:31):
these ideas have our things we've like grown grown up around.
They're they're like showing us beautiful images of this, like
polished jet taking off from Scotland, and like that's what
we associate with this old racist woman who was like,
you know, forcing enforcing a bunch of regressive values her

(49:53):
whole life. Right, I think that's the and I think
that's kind of part of it, right, is like we
for for like sort of capitalism and inequality to keep
moving at the speed that it does. More like regular
people can't look at someone with extreme wealth and see
that that's on the that that that's that's borne out
of a ton of suffering. That it's not just like

(50:16):
I'm so rich, Wow, it's I fucked over a lot
of people to get this ship. It's fucking ugly. And
I think that's the thing that's happening right now is
like so many people like you want to talk about
the fucking monarchy, right now and people like we just
like the Disney version where there's a king and a
queen and prince and princesses, and we don't we know

(50:36):
nothing of subjugated people or stolen land, and I think
to connect them so vividly is really fucking it's sucking
up people who want to hold on to this idea
that like it's just like, no, it's like this fine,
it's like it's a ceremonial or whatever. No it's not.
It's it's an institution that's responsible for untold suffering. That's
what it is. And I think that's we're trying to

(50:58):
avoid that conversation, just talking about how she loved Balmoral
where she could get away from the press, right. Yeah,
And it is regressive. I mean the values that she
represented are regressive. They're not progressive. They are like a
part of a really brutal, dark past. And for a

(51:20):
American university to come through and be like, yeah, we're
we think you should be a nicer, darker, it's it's
pretty wild. Yeah. Also, like it's not like Bujuanya was
like I'm just firing off a hot take. She's Nigerian,
you know anything about history? Like that's the other thing,

(51:40):
people that aren't connecting to all these people, like especially
on the day of the death, people like I can't
believe people from these like from the Commonwealth would say
something like this, like you really have no idea? Really?
All right, finally, let's talk about this new m T.
A poster that is literally going up in New York
subways is up already, so for context, there was a

(52:04):
poster that went up during the pandemic that was yellow
with like black kind of smiley face stick figures that
said how to wear a mask, cover your nose and mouth.
And the first one with somebody wearing it around their chin. Nope,
then somebody wearing it around there on their nose, not
covering their mouth, not quite mouth, not nose, try again,

(52:24):
and then showing somebody wearing it. Right, that's the one, fine,
like well designed poster. Now New York has put out
a poster that is the same thing, except now it
says masks are encouraged, but optional, And then it shows
the person wearing it correctly and it says yes. Then
it shows the person wearing it with their nose exposed,

(52:45):
and it says yes over the nose but not the mouth.
You do you, And then person without a mask on
it says yes, and then it says, let's respect each
other's choices. So it's the it's this is just diversity
of opinion. We have to have a nice wide diversity
of opinion. And if my opinion is that I should

(53:08):
be able to sneeze on your elderly immunocompromised relative with
my COVID germs, because I I feel like it, because
then like, hey, you do you? That's my choice, okay,
and my and and that's why it's you can't fucking
talk to me about it because it's my choice and

(53:29):
it doesn't affect anybody else because it's my choice. Oh wait,
it does affect other people. Oh yeah. M just it's
really it's weird to make a meme like out that's
announcing we don't give a funk anymore. Yeah, it really
seems it's a parody of their own like how they
felt during the pandemic, and it just it feels dangerous

(53:53):
like on for a number of reasons, just on a
very specific like health policy level, but it also feels
like it's in a category that we've talked about of
these stories where like the right wing kind of fascist
version of the story eventually wins out quietly in the
mainstream media. In terms of like how the mainstream media

(54:14):
and mainstream culture view it, I'd put it in the
category with like cops claiming that the protests of caused
the murder rate to go up, and the idea that
giving people money during the pandemic is causing inflation. It
seems like the mainstream media is to react to public
outrage and public opinion in the moment with like a

(54:37):
lot of energy, but then after the fact to like
sort of correct the record, after our attention has kind
of moved on and there's no longer the ground swell
of energy and emotion, right, Yeah, So, like they're they're
on board with criticizing the police while there's energy for it,
but then they come back and falsely reports statistics that

(54:58):
suggest criticizing the police this is causing people to murder.
People were that they're, Hey, that's what my buddy the
cop told me. Who's my white source for my crime reporting? Yeah,
it's the mask sign reminded me of I don't know
if either of you have ever been in a sheets
convenience store gas station. It's popular in the mid Atlantic

(55:20):
region Pennsylvania, Maryland, West Virginia, and North Carolina. So they're
like a pretty right wing kind of company. But in
the like first year of COVID, they had signs up
there like yeah, masks suck, but like, we're legally obligated
to tell you you have to put this on. It
was literally like we are if we don't do this,
we're gonna get sued. That was like the subtext that

(55:41):
they're messaging to ask people to wear masks in their stores.
Are they named after what they like to wear when
they go out riding on horses at night? Yeah, I
don't know it's and and so the story with these
with the subway in particular is that like the police

(56:04):
have never enforced mask mandates on the subway, and now
especially like the police have never worned their masks on
the subway. Like those signs that were being like, hey,
could you please wear your mask correctly were the closest
we had to like actual like policy being enforced because

(56:26):
the police did not when when there was a fine
associated with not wearing a mask, the police admitted they
issued very few, quote of of these fines, despite the
fact that more than one in ten riders were unmasked
at the height of the pandemic, and the cops were
usually the ones not wearing the mask. Yeah, that was
like the meme I felt like on New York Twitter

(56:47):
was like just people taking pictures of cops like maskless
even though they're like, hm, I thought the policy was different, fellas,
but they're, well, the mask mandates were not enforced. They
continue to aggressively target fair evasion. Good good, because you
know what, Jack, the m t A is losing so
much money from people's secually, it would be cheaper. It

(57:09):
would be cheaper if they didn't do that. Okay. It
was reported that the city wanted to spend two million
on cops to say two d million in fair evasion. Okay,
so you're spending fifty millions. How about this, pay me
fifty millions, Like yeah, it's like the the idea that

(57:31):
I think a lot of people believe that, like this
is all to try and like make things run more smoothly.
Like the the m t A is literally slowing down
service in order to fight fair invaders by not opening
rear bus doors. So it's they're they're making everything less
efficient in order to fight poor people and you know,

(57:54):
basically make it easier to cage poor people. And I'm sure, yeah,
I mean obviously, like you're talking about how they're wing
version or like perspective on the story wins out. I mean,
it's always whatever is best for capital, right, you know,
because if if we are going to still talk about masks,
then we still have to have, you know, good faith
discussions on people who need support if they're not able
to work or if they are immuno compromised and shouldn't

(58:17):
expose themselves to something that could like terribly wreck their health.
And we would have to have that because if we
give a funk about mass, then we need to continue
that momentum. If we're like, not's all good, then you're
already operating from a position if someone says, well what
about this, like well, it's all good, you don't gotta worry,
it's all good, Like it's up to you. It's really
up to you. It's really up to you. It's up
to you. And it's every single time it's just sort

(58:40):
of like, well, what about diversity, equity and inclusion. They're like,
we said that up until like September, and then y'all
moved on the World Series or some sh it happened,
and then we got to fucking slither back into our
cave holes and act like nothing was happening, because it is,
like you're saying, the energy is like you're driving a
car and everyone's like we want to go to mcdonne
annals or like we want minimum wage. You're like, all right,

(59:02):
I'll put the car in that direction. Everyone's like yeah
they asleep, all right, We're going back to fucking home depot.
Like that's sort of the ebb and flow of these, uh,
these moments in our culture. But yeah, it's makes you
making distance disheartening England. It's it's just like like we're
reducing the risks of the pandemic and already talking about

(59:23):
how many people are having like suffering from long COVID
and how that's actually a dimension of the labor force
diminishing because of people suffering long COVID. But we're still
in you do you yeah, like phase yeah, you do
you well? And also like the like people are still
confounded by like why there's no one to fill open

(59:45):
jobs like hello, you know, it's like oh yeah, it's
like sort of like amnesia between like not connecting these
stories together. It's I don't know why there's nobody to
work because of the great resignation. Everybody they could do better,
But as this street Journal story proves, they're all sorry.

(01:00:06):
Yeah yeah, there's so many yeah, the quiet quitting war
that there's more articles keep coming back that are like
employer clap backs. You think it's like, wow, okay, okay,
this will be an ongoing story. I'm sure. I feel
like company towns are coming, like they're gonna, they're gonna.

(01:00:27):
They've got so much power at this point in the
United States that's already kind of getting near that. Yeah,
yeah there, But I think they'll probably become more and
more popular because they just get the benefit of the
doubt way too easily in the mainstream media. Jenna on
that late note, it's been such a pleasure having you.

(01:00:48):
Where can people find you? Follow you all that good stuff? Yeah,
So I'm on Twitter at Jenna Spanelli. My podcast is
When the People Decide at The People Decide Pod, and
I work for the McCartney Institute for Democracy at Penn
State Democracy dot PSU dot e d U nice And
is there a tweet or some of the work of

(01:01:09):
social media you've been enjoying. Yeah, so to take us
all the way back to where we started talking about planes.
Have you all seen the thread about the bulldog with
diarrhea on the running So I was wondering if I
might be a day a daily eight and dollar short

(01:01:31):
on that one. But that and I also I'll shout
out a newsletter I've been enjoying lately called snack Stack.
It's written by a writer that I know in Minnesota
named Doug mac. He goes like real deep on the
history of snack foods like toaster strudles and those like peanuts,

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things like candy, peanuts, all kinds of stuff. I'm not
really doing him justice, but it is fascinating. If you're
looking for a new rabbit hole, go down check out
the snack Stack newsletter. Okay, Miles work can be able
to find you. What's the tweet you've been enjoying? Man?
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if you like ninety day Fiance, come check out my
unofficial podcasts called four twenty Day Fiance with Sophie Alexander,
you know what time it is. It's lowed in there.
Um Now, some tweets are like, I like a couple good,
A couple of videos on TikTok are hitting good. First
one is from like a lot of people are showing
reactions of like little girls watching the Little Mermaid trailer.

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This one is like amazing, is this that's white girl?
The white girls watching? But what she says at the
end is just fantastic. I'll play the end. So she's
watching the whole teaser and she's just saying that fantastic
line and then she's about to look at the camera
to react at her mom. Jesus, was it gives me?

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Or was that with Whitney Houston? Is it just me? Yeah?
I mean the way she was hitting those lines, I
wouldn't be mad at you. And then this other one
is from at only zans. But he it's this guy,
this guy who's like watching domino videos on TikTok, and
he's responding to them by like just saying what his

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emotional state is as he watches the dominoes and it's
somehow as only Zans describes it, he described every feeling
I have like I was having at the exact same points.
So this is him watching a little dominoes that go around.
Please hurry, Oh, I've seen this, swow. I want to

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see someone else. It's so interesting. Doesn't happen in the
next two seconds? What's this? I swears to go. The
video has two minutes and the whole thing is just like,
come on, single lanes and he doesn't even know anything

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about don't like everything, just like, what are these? But
it's just it's on point and uh yeah, fantastic video.
All right. You can find me on Twitter at Jack
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tweet somebody today years old tweet I was today years
old when I found out, tweeted, just now finding out
that rabbits can swim. Also learned their ears going to
swim mode when they do. This is news. And then
a video of a rabbit swimming and yeah, their their
ears like kind of tucked back against their body. And
then SI tweeted, I asked my husband if he knows

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rabbits can swim and he casually says, yeah, President Jimmy
Carter was attacked by a giant swimming ra abbit. I'm
sorry what And that is a true fact that you
should go look up the story. Jimmy Carter had had
a very strange well, first of all, he believes that
he has encountered extraterrestrial life and like says that, but

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also he had a very strange encounter with a swamp
rabbit that was massive and swam up to his boat
while he was out, like canoeing, tried to attack him.
True King Jim Carter, and then Simon Sheer tweeted, I
guess there's an M plus one article on Barbara arm
Reich and tweeted a quote from her. To engage in

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political struggle is not just frightening. Frightening, it is painful
because power is not just out there, It is also
a voice in your own head. Should quote I was
thinking of when I was asking myself, why the fuck
this NonStop Queen Queen's death coverage? So anyways, so you
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This is a track off there called Mercury, and he's
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