May 25, 2023 • 58 mins
In episode 1490, Jack and Miles are joined by host of Black People Love Paramore, Sequoia Holmes, to discuss... Nikki Haley’s Transphobia Not Poppin Off in New Hampshire, But People Are Pushing Back On This Wave of Hate, Orcas Are Sinking Boats off Portugal In Unprecedented Coordinated Attacks and more!
- Nikki Haley’s Transphobia Not Poppin Off in New Hampshire (Clip)
- But People Are Pushing Back On This Wave of Hate
- Target becomes latest company to suffer backlash for LGBTQ+ support, pulls some Pride month clothing
- Orcas Are Sinking Boats off Portugal In Unprecedented Coordinated Attacks
- First orca found washed up on coast of Britain in 20 years as scientists say it had plastic in its stomach
- Five dead after boat ‘flipped over by large whale’
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season two eighty eight, episode.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Four of Nally's Guys Say production of iHeart Radio.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
This is the podcast where we take a deep dive
into america shared consciousness. And it is Thursday, May twenty fifth,
twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
National tap Dance Day, All my Gregory Hinz fans Unite,
National brown bag It Day, National Wine Day, Towel Day,
Geek Pride Day, which looks like it's just like if
you like video games of Star Wars rise up internationally,
International Plastic Free Day, among many others. So's there you go, stack,
this is tap dancing gonna come back.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
I feel like every time I see tap dancing in
an old movie and they're really like doing it, well,
I'm always like, man, that shit is cool.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Did it every goay?
Speaker 1 (00:45):
I don't know if it yeah, maybe it just never
went away. But like tap dancing and movies, Yeah, it
was the last movie that had like a real where
they just solved the conflict with some tap dance.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
La la land are there tap dancing a little bit
of tap dance?
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Yeah? There was price in tap dancing. That's why that's
why I want to war. I mean, it's i think
it's on TikTok. I've been watching there's like this black
girl who's an amazing Irish step dancer and like killing it,
like to the point where you're like, oh no, it's
like you're changing the game of Irish step dancing. So
it's it's it's alive. Well, I was saying there for
the fancy footwork.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Is it'sing in the NBA, why not on TikTok. You know,
my name's Jack O'Brien aka whoa never let the Zeit
Gang down? That is it was just in my head
this morning when I woke up collect I'm so real
to be joined as always by my co host, mister
Miles Grad.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
You know what I'm aka that also, I just thought
up in my twilight of half waking up this morning
and here we go. I've been thinking about you way
star roll Roy Coole. I just wanted to merge you
with my go Joe. Yes, I'm Lucas Madson. Oh you
heard about Let's Field, do you do?
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Oh you're not think so far, because I just send
my blood to Ever thinking of is I just sent my.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
Blood to Ever?
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Oh man, what a weird plot point for that character.
But anyway, I know, shout out Frank Ocean and that
had to have come from some weird CEO behavior, you know.
Oh yeah, I'm sure that came out of someone's like
like autobiography.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
And I just thought it would be funny if I
started freezing blocks of my blood and sending them out
in the mail.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Yes, man, you we were just listening.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
We were listening to an a cappella version of that
song yesterday, and they didn't go for it. They didn't
go high. They were cowards, And I was they were cowards.
You nailed it. I'm so impressed.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
I Look, that's one of the few things I can
do sometimes is a falsetto. And I think hearing those
cowards in that college a cappella group and not go
for the falsetto for that's absolute spineless cowards. That's a goward. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Fu well, Miles. A little house keeping up top. We're
gonna keep telling people that we are trying a new
publication schedule out for the summer.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
First time in the history of the show.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
We're going to scale back to a mere eight episodes
a week, use that extra bandwidth to try some new
episode formats out.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
To kind of keep things fun. You know, you might
you might hear a musical episode somewhere in the future.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Yeah, maybe we'll see. But for you the listener, the
difference will be one episode on Friday, one episode on Monday,
and then yeah, we'll be doing some different things on
Tuesday's episode.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
It's gonna be fun. I think you guys are gonna
like it. You're gonna love it.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
And also we are using these new formats to try
and hear a little bit more from the listeners. We
have great relationships with you guys on Twitter in the discord,
so we want to hear from you on the show
and of course in the akas where you know, the
true stars of the AKA section are the listeners. But
(04:07):
we want to hear about your jobs. We want to
hear what's what's something interesting about your job, what's the
craziest thing that ever happened to you on your job?
With something most people misunderstand about your job?
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Hit us at.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter in the discord, let us know,
can keep it anonymous, can.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Or or not?
Speaker 1 (04:25):
We'll use your full name and social Security number whatever
you want, whatever you want. Yeah, so that's a lot
of housekeeping up top. Thank you to our guest for
sitting patiently by. Well, we do all of that. We
are thrilled to be joined by a hilarious pop culture
expert who hosts the show Black People Love Paramore.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
It's so quoil.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
Is such a stretch. I don't even want to set
that expert. I was listening to some episodes you, but
thank you very I do appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Thank you for joining us. Yeah, we're happy to have you.
When did you get that? I got to ask you,
when did you get the idea for the podcast? Because
I remember there was like a Nylon article years ago
that was like, you know, black people love Paramore and yeah,
I'll tell you black and these people love Paramore too,
because I fucked with Paramore heavy. You know, yeah, I.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
Got the idea after that Nyline article. I'm aware of
it now, but I got the idea when my roommate,
a white woman who I've lived with for ten years.
We don't live together now for the first year, but
we did ten years ago. She said that she hated Paramour,
and personally, I felt like that was anti black, and
so I decided, you know what, I'm going to give
us the representation we desire.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Yeah, yeah, you love Paramore. Yeah, and on the podcast,
you don't you talk about many other things, so it's
not always specifically like Paramore I saw it.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
It's almost like never Paramore. Honestly, we talked about a
whole bunch of other stuff. Yeah yeah, yeah, Anime.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
The Hills, the Hills, yea, the huge for Tony Hawk,
Tony Hawk. Yeah, yeah, Haley too. You know I started
off a Haley fan. I think also that what misery business.
It just it started off in a way that I
was like, what, this is a rock song and then
let's go.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
It has a little group to it. You get into
it like oh okay, yeah yeah, exactly exactly Phil Collins.
I was surprised by Phil Collins. Yes, yes, yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Yeah, yeah yeah. Cool amazing.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Well, we're thrilled to have you. We're going to get
to know you a little bit better in a moment. First,
we're going to tell the listeners a couple of things
we're talking about in the news section. Nicky Haley's transphobia
is not working everywhere, work in some places, yeah, but
kind of a specific take that doesn't doesn't work with independence.
(06:39):
So we're gonna listen to some audio from a Nicky Haley.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Yeah, yeah, just working material.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
We'll talk about Moms for Liberty, which you'll be surprised
to learn is fascist organization that is attacking school boards.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Is like astro Turfs.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
You know, bunch of dark money going into this, and
how people are actually fighting back against this bull working.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Yeah. Some good news people fighting back and it's working.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Some other good news whales are fighting back or dolphins
orcas are sinking boats off Portugal and unprecedented coordinated attacks.
The New York Times is calling them sail boats, but
there's a lot of yachts at yachts going down. Yeah,
New York Times doesn't want anybody to get any class
consciousness involved with us. But yeah, they're sinking big sailing
(07:33):
vessels sometimes known as yachts. So we'll just talk about
all of that plenty more. But first, Sequoia, we like
to ask our guests, what is something from your search history?
Speaker 5 (07:46):
Okay, so about a year ago, there was a moment
that went viral that was very old. It was Elmo
on Jimmy Fallon right. He was cooking and the person
who voice acts Elmo slipped into the New York accent
by accident. That resurface on my Twitter timeline, but it
wasn't the actual clip, it was just a reference to it,
(08:08):
so I had to go search it because it truly
had me on the floor for about five days straight.
When I first saw it, I thought I was gonna
pee my pants.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
I beg you fucking breathe.
Speaker 5 (08:20):
And if I really think about it too hard right now,
I'll I'll actually ruin this podcast. And sorry laughing. So yes,
if you have not seen that Almo clip, the black
Elmo clip, hilarious, the funniest thing. Balsamic vinegar. It's so funny.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Oh is that okay? Just how to dismiss me pointed out?
Or is he he just keeps it moving.
Speaker 5 (08:44):
Almo notices it and says, that's a big word for Almo.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
It's by I see someone Wait if someone just doing
the voiceovers onions extent from vinegar. Okay, you heard you know,
(09:10):
Jimmy word to I need that bosomic vinegar very much.
Speaker 6 (09:15):
That.
Speaker 7 (09:16):
How do we get here? How did Elo get here?
The garlic already started off a little garlic, it was garlic,
and then it gets into balsamic vinegar and it's just hilarious.
So yes, that was my most recent search.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
I love the I love this one lip sync lip
dub of it on TikTok where this woman is like
Saint running it down and when it gets a balsamic vinish,
she got a bubble goose jacket on Yeah got on Sudden? Exactly?
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Is the Elmo voice somebody like from New York, like
from the Bronx.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
I think he was from Billy if I'm not mistaken
at the time, I think Elma was voiced by a
man from a black man.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
From Philly that. If I'm wrong, he's actually from Baltimore.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
Okay, right, m gotcha?
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Gotcha? Yeah? What is something you think is overrated?
Speaker 5 (10:09):
This one's very divisive. People hate me for it. Cheese cheeses,
cheeses discussion and constantly I've had enough, let it go.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
I love the power of this take. If it's everywhere.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
If you can't cook your recipe without an abundance of
cheese on top of it, you simply cannot cook and
we can leave it at that.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Wait can be very fine. Oh no, walk me through this.
So what are you encountering out there where you're like,
what the fuck is this cheese?
Speaker 5 (10:32):
I go to a restaurant I'm like, oh, can I
have the broccolini? You bring me broccolini with cheese on
top of it? Why is there cheese on top of
my vegetable?
Speaker 2 (10:38):
That I didn't want?
Speaker 5 (10:39):
That very good point, like I wanted a vegetable, Like
I wanted a vegetable. Why is their cheese on top
of it? You bring me truffle fries. Why is their
cheese on it? Because they didn't say that. I just
had truffle Why why is there? Why is there cheese
on my trouble fries?
Speaker 2 (10:51):
I want that? Yeah, got to be in the mood.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
I will, first of all gladly admit I can't cook,
and that's why I do a nice layer of cheese
on at like cereal in the morning.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Yeah, my god, just American cheese. Like he's putting over
a dead body.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
He's like, okay, if we really want to talk about
cereal to putting the milk first actually makes the most sense.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Sorry, wow, talk to me about that too. No, I like,
I love this. Wait, why milk first? And I love
the just if.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
We just want to talk about science, okay, it allows
the cereal to stay crisp longer because all of it
is not getting super wet. You throw the milk in first.
It's cold, Okay, it has to be cold. You put the.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Cereal on the top, corn milk out at your house.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
I mean, you can't even put ice and if you want,
that's that's a little great, just what you could put
ice in if you want, and you put the cereal
on top. Also cold. I keep the cereal refrigerated so
that it stays crisps a long time. Don't wet it. Yeah,
you know how much milk because you've done it for
your whole life. If you're meat.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Man, and then you're doing little scoops of the milk
as you like pull the cereal off the top.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
That down, you get it. You got the you have
the drop everything this like the dry pile up top.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
Basically I don't like the way that you you said that,
but yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Ye just very just trying to help the listeners because
it's very visual. So the base layer which is contacting
the milk, do you ever do you scoop from the bottom.
Do you take from the bottom so it slowly like
moves down, you know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (12:36):
You stab the cereal at an angle so that it
goes straight down. Most of perpendicular and misses. Most of
the cereal gets into the milk and you pick it
back up.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Okay, and you're just taking the wet layer with each bite,
but it's newly wet.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
And you're taking the newly wet moist layer with each
bite and putting your mouth for the most desirable experience
that you can have with cereal.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
And what is your cereal of choice?
Speaker 5 (13:05):
Captain crunch but no crunch berries.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Wow, someone's an adult.
Speaker 8 (13:10):
You know, no cheese, nothing but the sea.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Yeah, keep okay, okay, okay, I see the crunch berries.
All right. I feel like we've learned a lot that
I I totally agree with you. Like, I am a
huge cheese fan.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
I love a lot of cheese on everything, but the
broccolini really fucks me up. Like it broccolini does not
need it. And when when they put it on, it's
just it does. It's usually a sign that it's not
going to be that good.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
Oh my gosh. I had clam chowder recently, which one
of my favorite foods that also puts cheese, but like
it had like Manhattan, Manhattan.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Okay, that makes little more.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
No no, sorry, the white, the white, it was like
all there were cheese in it. I asked, because I
could taste it, and I asked and they were like, yeah,
they put a little.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Why for what? I've never heard of that at all,
Like what kind of cheese, like yellow cheese, like.
Speaker 5 (14:13):
The white cheese. I don't know what it is.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
I guess like broccoli cheddar is a cheesy soup.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
So maybe they were trying to bring But that's a
that's a mess.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
I was in d deservedly so.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
So DC you have to answer for that.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Toe. Sometimes I'm looking at summers say that there's cream
cheese and a lot of clams.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
There, that it must have been cream cheese. But I've
never tasted it before, and I could.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
That's to the point where you're like, cheese.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
Cheesy clam chowder.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Why right? I get that it's creamy obviously that's what
we're gravitating towards. But the yeah, I don't, I don't
know cheesy fish. Keep it cream cheese, and I'm disgusting.
You know, it's like like the fish sandwich. You know what,
that's cheese?
Speaker 5 (14:56):
People people people say, that's that's with cheese.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Oh yeah, gotta have that. Look again, look different strokes
for different folks. Yeah, you have it. I appreciate you
fighting back your your desire to vomit from him saying
that you're I'm happy for you though, thank you, thank you,
very diplomatic answer. I appreciate that. And are you anti
cheese across the board or just like on certain.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
Foods across the board anti cheese. I do like fake
cheeses though, like a nacho cheese sauce that you get
from a movie theater, Cheetos cheese dust. You know, I
like that. I love it.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
I'm just look at you're like, hey, I brought out
a little cheese board for y'all, and you're like, okay,
over here we have our cheese. This is some loose
cheeto dust. You can just get that.
Speaker 5 (15:46):
I should do that for my birthday. I'm gonna host
like a little thing for my birthday. I was gonna
have a arhooery board. Maybe I'll put fake cheese on
it just to troll people.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it'll bring it'll bring the
elitist out of somebody, Like somebody's gonna be caught.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
This is not cheese, and it's not it's not a
lactose thing. Because you are one of the foremost experts
in how to consume milk with cereal.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
So it's you don't have a problem with lactose.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
You're out here in New England clam chowder with my
cereal if not an almond.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
But I'll take a one percent if you have it.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Yeah, okay, yeah, keep your milk eleak.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Yeah. What is something you think is underrated?
Speaker 5 (16:27):
Magnesium glyconate for sleeping?
Speaker 2 (16:31):
That is so specific? God, magnesium? Sorry what glyconate?
Speaker 5 (16:38):
Magnesium glyconate? Specifically, magnesium comes in different forms. You can
get a bunch of different little endings. The glycier one
for sleeping in particular.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Magnesium when the the number one auto complete for magnesium
space and Google is glaconate. So it is it is
us who are wrong, followed by magnesium and cheese, which
is and cheese.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Yeah, mag and cheese. Wait, so what is what? Yeah?
Tell me where where did you hear about it? What
is is it? Is it for helping? Is it like
a sleep aid or what's going on?
Speaker 5 (17:14):
It is a sleep aid. I heard about it from
the journal, the very scientific journal that I always consume
TikTok and it helps you sleep, but it doesn't help
you get to sleep. It helps you get into a
deeper sleep once you are asleep. So my whole life,
I was like, I don't really dream that often. I'll
like have dreams sometimes, well like not super often, maybe
(17:34):
once every couple weeks. Turns out, I'm just not getting
into rim sleep where dreams happen enough, or staying in
m sleep long enough, and magnesium glyaconate allows me to
stay into rimsleep for a long time. So once I
started taking it, I started having these really intense dreams
that I thought were like hallucinations. Turns out that's normal
and everybody has them. I just wasn't dreaming like that
(17:55):
before because I wasn't sleeping like that.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
So, wait, would describe one of your dreams. It's like
very like, Okay, I had this one. I was I
had to give a speech at school.
Speaker 5 (18:01):
And I'm doing No, it's nothing like that. I had
a dream. Oh my god. Okay, I had a dream
that one of my friends who had just gone to
Europe for his birthday for a month, I was watching
his location on Find my Friends, and I told him
to come to where I was, and so I'm watching
him cross like the boot of Italy on some some
(18:22):
it's so random on some bridge he's going through the
boot of Italy to get to me somewhere also in Europe.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Yeah, yeah, and it's like dark out.
Speaker 5 (18:31):
There's like a lot of stars around. I'm with some
person I don't know who they are. Stuff like that.
Very just super random, but very vivid.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Dream Yeah, okay, I'm to look into that. Yeah, we're
big dream heads on this podcast. There. I feel.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
I feel like there are insights in there if you
just like, you know, keep track of them and like,
don't be too specific, don't be like, oh so I'm
going to see my friend on a bridge on the boot,
but like there's you know, I think there's power are
there coming from the unconscious.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Part of our minds? That?
Speaker 5 (19:03):
I agree?
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Yeah, I think that's the most powerful thing the humans
have access to if you know how to use it.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
So that's cool. Magnesium glaconate against dreaming. Combine that with
my th HC.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
That will always Now that's the thing. I'm scared of
forming a dependency, so I won't do it more than
two nights in a row, So the other nights I'll
do my magnesium. But yes, definitely felt.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Now the combo.
Speaker 5 (19:31):
Yeah, yeah, anything I'm like, oh, this is like anti coomactic.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Yeah, magnesium and th A C.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
Now I am not a doctor, so take this for
what it's worth.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
But whiktok, you know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (19:52):
Naturally an osragonda supplement plus magnesium glacinate plus a little
th HC will actually have you in a student.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
You might not wake up on that.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Well, I'm seeing already like people are talking about combining
actual GANDHA and magnesium gli. Oh, there's all kinds of
stuff going.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
Okay, so it's a little crazy.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Let us know, let us know if that's how you
get downsik yeah, yeah, all right.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Uh, let's take a quick break and we'll come back
and talk about Nicki Haley. We'll be right back, and
we're back and Nicki Haley. The Republican primary has kicked off,
(20:38):
and all of these people are in just lose lose
situations because yeah, they're they're they're all going to lose.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
I think they're all lose people to start off with.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
But so they but they gotta they gotta get out
here and try and rally the base, even though they
don't believe any of this shit. I don't think for
the most part, and and then but then also try
and become like media darlings, and it's just it's dark.
It's dark out there.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
The primary is basically, though, who can be the bigger
asshole contest right now? To prove to the base that
you are an absolute evil doer. And like as Nicki Hayley,
the former South Carolina governor, towards the country to try
to make her case that she is also an inhumane monster,
she's also had some time to see like what material
works with certain crowds. You know, got to workshops and
(21:32):
jokes some material. But it's clear, right like, just like
to your point in Jack, that no one is going
to get the nomination unless you take a couple of
these boxes. First, are you a homophobe? Transphobe? Okay? Are
you racist? Okay? Do you also believe that bud Light
is the true enemy of the American people? If you
answered yes to these questions, then you can move to
the next round. But now, so all of these talking points,
(21:54):
along with like the anti woke shit, they do well
when you talk to a room full of people who's
brains have been malformed by chronic Fox News viewing. And
so I just want to. I just want to compare
two audiences where Nicki Haley was just trying some material out. First,
she's with a she's with some Republicans in New Hampshire. Uh,
and she decides to evoke Dylan mulvaney, the trans influencer
(22:15):
that recently collaborated bud Light. And we are we already
know about the outrage around that. So let's let's hear
Nicky Haley first of all, like completely misgender Dylan mulvaney
while also just going on this attack, and just see
how the audience receives this, this this material.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
I guess I'll call it and have any of y'all
seen Dylan mulvaney?
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Do you know who that is on the beer?
Speaker 8 (22:38):
Let me tell you something.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
I know that there are transgender people out there. That
is not a transgender person. That is a guy dressing
up like a girl making fun of women.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Every one of.
Speaker 5 (22:57):
You women have seen that.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
So that audience was fully on board with that nonsense.
What what the fuck?
Speaker 5 (23:07):
She thought she was doing a stand up set.
Speaker 9 (23:08):
She thought that's what they all think they're doing, right,
And you can tell because now now okay, now we're
just we'll juxtapost that with a with a room full
of independence in the same state in New Hampshire and
goes along with this same nonsense transphobia and.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Just just just check out, Like is that one audience
the second Nikki Haley said Dylan mulvane, people like, yeah,
we know, just listen to this group of independence right now.
This is her doing the same thing everybody know about.
Speaker 6 (23:36):
Dylan mulvaney bud life right, Make no mistake. That is
a guy dressed up like a girl making fun of women.
Women don't act like that.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Hold for applause, nothing, she looks confused.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Nothing was the loudest silence, like the room tone Oh yeah,
video was deafening.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Oh yeah shit. You could hear like someone's wristwatch, Like
I know, it was like super wild. So you know, again,
this is just just showing you kind of like when
you're in a room full of like you know, an
unaffiliated independent voters, like they're not all they're not clued
in on this like culture warshit like these like the
MAGA room was, and it's just it just shows you,
(24:27):
right Like this is like I think the hard part
about the GOP trying to win a national election, the
base feeds off of the hateful rhetoric and they need
to hear that bullshit in order for a candidate to
register as like a Republican in their frame, you know
what I mean, Like, oh, they've evoked like the three
Hateful truths, Now I know what room I'm in. But
like appealing to their base isn't enough, and so they
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also have to court independence, many of whom are not
aware of like the woke wars happening on Fox News,
and also believe in things like body autonomy or LGBTQ
rights and so. And it's funny because Nikki Haley in
some rooms tries to be like, obviously, like abortion is
an important topic. She's smart enough to never She's smart
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enough to say like, well, obviously on pro life, but
also smart enough to never say what the cutoff is
for whatever kind of abortion band that she would potentially
enact as president, because that's just like sort of this
weird middle space that they're having to occupy in terms
of like, you know, the party platform. But again, I
think this is all part of why we're seeing just
like this very stark turn towards fascism, because when they
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don't like something, they cry about it and use every
tool to intimidate people and incite violence, like they did
this with the election results. And as they see that,
like man, our chances are fucking getting slim. If we
keep saying this shit to get the base out, it's
at the cost of getting a majority of people to
vote for us. So now we see now we see
more and more of this same pattern beginning to play
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out in other places, not just like with respect of
maybe school boards and things like that, but also consumer goods,
right like with bud Light and now fucking Target because
they're selling pride clothed, like pride clothing in kids sizes,
like with stuff that says cure transphobia, not trans people,
or I'm meant to be here, stuff like that, and
people are now completely the right wing's completely lost and
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been like it's they've caused a Satanic panic. They said
the person designing it is was wearing like a Satan
shirt because it said like Satan respects pronouns. Is like
one of the pictures this person's wearing, and they're like,
they're a Satanists, And this is what they're trying to
do through Target, where they are saying things like they
are selling like tuck friendly bathing suits for kids, when
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they're just pointing out like extra fabric that's like in
the like the bottoms of like a bathing suit.
Speaker 5 (26:43):
Oh my god, it sounds like middle school conspiracy theories.
It's embarrassing.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Yeah, yeah, and it really Yeah and for like all
this shit that you know Niki Hayley's talking, but I
was saying like because later on in that in that
room in New Hampshire, she tries to pivot to say
and it's no wonder why do we have like these
rates of attempted suicide increasing amongst adolescent curls and trying
to connect trans people to that as if like because
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they are making fun of CIS women and that's and
it's like, no, it's because of the other ring, Like
what you're doing with trans people and other groups like that,
that's what leads to people being falling into despair to
the point that there they have that kind of ideation.
So it's just yeah, again.
Speaker 5 (27:25):
I couldn't even find it, Like I didn't know what
you were implying when you were trying to explain what
she was saying, because like it was such a leap
I didn't know what she was trying to say at all.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Right, because it's so I think, because it's such a
terrible distillation of just people being like, well they're they're
biologically not that, so they're making fun of us. Yeah,
and that's why I'm hateful, right, I think. I don't know,
I don't know. I'm not sure.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
I mean, it's like there, this is a form of
something that the right has been doing for a long time,
with like the you know, screaming, you know, being not
the majority of the country, but being also the loudest
whenever anything offends their delicate sensibilities has worked for them,
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you know, when it comes to like the FCC and
making sure that there's no bad words said on TV,
you know, they'll fucking send a massive letter writing campaign
and like that has worked for a long time. It
fucking ended Janet Jackson's career, like in a.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Lot of ways, I mean had a lot to do
with that, right and also less but I mean.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
That's the thing is, like the these corporate CEOs are
not going to be brave and stand up, Like Target
removed their displays, like removing some items from its stores
and making other changes to its merchandise nationwide ahead of
Pride month, after intense backlash from some customers who confronted
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workers and tipped over to displays.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
It's like, that's but I mean, I think the other
thing too, is I mean, I get the position targets
into because they said, right now the employees are the
ones having to bear the brunt of like getting threats
get So it is a difficult balance because at one
point you don't want to put the worker there to
be the fucking defender of your corporate values and your
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capitalists pursuit of like never ending dollars. But like, at
the same time, I know to your point, it doesn't
help to fucking cave to these people either. Like why
we just talked about this with the Dodgers. The Dodgers
are about to have the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence, which
they're like, you know, these like drag performers who like
raise raise money and you know they fucking lampooon Catholicism,
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because yeah, why not. And then they they said, actually,
we don't want to have them because there's too much
right wing pressure. And then they finally got their shit together,
like actually, no, we're going to have them back fucked
that became to our senses. But I don't know how
many I don't know how many times we're going to
see that be the norm, right because once it happens,
like it's just easier for them, like, oh well, just
because like a few hundred people are sending like all
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kinds of violent emails and stuff where we have to cave.
And it's just not a good sign. When that becomes
like the mainstream response to people voicing their homophobia and
hateful rhetoric.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Yeah, this would be the time to you know, it's
that it is now like that sort of loud response
anytime their sensibilities are offended, Like is now you know,
connected to a hate campaign that has like an actual
violent political movement attached to it, that is conducting like
domestic terror and openly saying hateful things out loud That
(30:42):
used to I guess they used to probably just say
like in country club locker rooms. But like, there there
is a momentum to this, and we would need a
corresponding strengthening of resolve. And you know, as we're about
to talk about, I think we're seeing it with some people,
but looking for it from corporations. I think we're going
to be disappointed because corporations are always going to triangulate
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to try and find like the biggest consumer group they
can by not offending anybody and becoming a story.
Speaker 5 (31:15):
And what we're saying here is that collective action works.
So what's the best counter response to collective action? It
is collective action, right, yeah, so we could all, you know,
we could all get up in arms and do something
that would be great.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Yeah exactly. I mean I think, yeah, it's like it's
it's interest. Like on Charlie Kirk's show, he was talking
about the Target thing, and he's like, this CEO of
targets me he's a groomer or whatever, because look, it's
projection at its finest, all right, Yeah, just just going
after the CEO of Target because Target has been like,
you know, they've done the bare minimum to like just
to support all of their employees. And to the conservatives,
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that's like they're trying to they're trying to come after
our kids, the ones that I don't have because I'm
so vile no one wants to procreate with me.
Speaker 5 (31:56):
The ones that you don't give a fuck if they
get shot or not.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Yeah, right exactly, And and but it was interesting to
watch him begin to be like, you know, bud Light
was like a one off, Like he was sort of
starting to like throttle off the bud Light outrage to
be like that was like a one time thing with
an influencer. But Target, they've been doing this, They've been
want to get this. I know it's it's but again,
I don't know like what they always talk about, like, well,
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we have to stop giving them our dollars. You won't.
You won't because at the end of the day, none
of this is actually like wrapped up in some real
principled argument or like worldview that you're like philosophically, I
can't let this happen. Y'all are just addicted to the
outrage cycle to be like what who oh, fuck those guys.
I'm not going to Target. Where am I going right now?
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Just in the Target to get something, but after that.
Speaker 5 (32:46):
Just to get something right quick?
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Yeah, really quick. I mean it's it's convenient. It's right there, obviously,
because I live in an area where big box stores
are the only place for me to shop. It's kind
of been a weird bind anyway, But like that's what
you're they honestly like they're saying like, oh, we took
victory over bud lighter these other things. I don't know,
maybe because you saw them not be as vocal, sure,
but again, like they're basically terror campaign continues like.
Speaker 5 (33:11):
It's about winning. It's not about any more on high ground.
Like you said, it's about winning, Yeah, exactly. And here's
whe wins say that I don't appreciate you think I'm stupid,
don't lie to me right.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Well, because that's the thing is like their hypocrisy is
all over the place that everyone's like, y'all are so dumb,
like you don't believe in any of this shit. You
just want to feel like you have you can get
one over on people, and you just pick the weakest
groups out there to do that over and over and
over again.
Speaker 5 (33:33):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Yeah, but yeah, it's it's it's disheartening, but there is
a response. There are responses to things like this, because
I don't want to just end this story by saying
like what the fuck, man, look, what the fuck is
going on? So you probably heard of this group called
Moms for Liberty. They're the ones you see like organizing
at school board school board meetings, like arms of Kimbo
with like proud boys, you know, because they can't believe
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some words have the word queer or sex in them. Right. Well,
they've now become a national organization with over one hundred
and fifteen thousand members as they say, and dark money
funding because they are a five OZHO one C four
nonprofit where you do not have to disclose where none
of your money comes from. Shout out to the Supreme Court.
Shout out to them. But it's also every political party's
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favorite tool. But they were founded in Florida by this
woman after she lost a school board reelection in like
a very red district in twenty twenty and then just
like got in her hate bag and started this group
that now has like deep ties to the GOP and
has been like, you know, behind a lot of book bands,
Like they're the people that you really see turning up
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at these like school board meetings and also helping Deronda
Santis with the don't say gay nonsense. So they've they've
flexed their muscle over the last year two years or so,
and many other parents have noticed an uptick in this
group's aggressive tactics, which is basically NonStop harassment, dosing physical
threats of violence to school board members, faculty, or other
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parents that decide to speak up for their kids who
are not like white, cisgendered, or just don't agree with
this hate group. And there's one group called Our Schools
was actually formed as a response to the Charlottesville Unite
the Right rally by a group of moms who felt they're, like, man, like,
we can't just sit and watch and like tell our
kids we did fuck all while all this shit was happening.
So they like, we just want to be able to
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push back on whatever we're seeing, like all this ignorance
popping up in our own communities. And like again, they've
been able to slowly build a group, and then once
Moms for Liberty came on the scene, they've been able
to actually start fighting back. So this group Our Schools,
they were doing a lot of stuff, like prior to
Moms for Liberty showing up, they were able to like
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get all kinds of more like laws passed or standards
for schools for like more inclusivity and things like that.
But once Moms for Liberty pulled up, a lot of
that shit has been clawed back. And they were noticing
too that like in these meetings of parents that were
speaking out against some of these like more inclusive policies.
They're like, I've never even seen this person before. They're like,
yeah they have. Like some people they said, okay, they
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just were not involved at all in like school board
politics until this group. But then other people saying like
they're people were coming in from like way out of
town who are like, they don't even have kids in
the district and are speaking up as if they are.
These people, like as if they are a concerned parent,
which leads a lot of people to be like this
is just fucking AstroTurf bullshit. But yeah, it's caused like
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a lot of pushback. And there's another group that called
Defense of Democracy who they again saw these Moms for
Liberty people showing up and being like Christ is king
over at all our children. They're like, oh, not to know, no,
not going to do that. And they began just very
simply organizing other parents that they saw who were like
this is kind of fucked up and like scary, and
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I don't like this shit, but I don't know where
to start. So they started doing house meetings and then
they were able to like once the a wave of
school board elections happened in November. They were able to
get a ton of these Moms for Liberty candidates defeated
because they just drew attention to what they were going
on about, even though they said, I'm here to protect
our kids. This is a quote from one of the
founders quote. We treat Moms for Liberty like the KKK.
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If you knew that a KKK meeting was happening in
a church down the street from your house, everyone would
be alarmed. We would be picketing, we would be protesting,
we'd have a petition, and that was exactly what we do.
Nice there, it is nice, Yeah, just showing up and
guess what. As a result, this has actually made an impact. Now,
Moms for Liberty like they're they're like they're on the
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defensive now, trying to be like, no, we didn't say that,
We never said any of that, because they know how
extreme they look when people are just like have you
heard what they say? And they began to lose a
little bit of influence. Not to say that they're defeated,
but more as more parents are informed about their endgame,
like it's gotten to the point where the main sort
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of headquarters of Moms for Liberty are telling all these subgroups, hey,
tone down the fucking the hate shit, try to be
say the thing that we keep saying, be respectful, please,
please please. And that's just from other parents organizing enough
to be like, wey' all need to know what these
people are actually about, because it's not protecting our kids.
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They're on there. They have a fascist agenda that they're
trying to bring into our schools and not just not
just come after like non CIS kids or whatever. They
don't even want white kids to learn about the history
of the United States because you know, we don't like
the truth around here. Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
It feels like this is a bad look for the
Republican Party being affiliated with the shit, and like it
just it feels like this is, like you said, AstroTurf.
There's a lot of money behind it because this is
where like the right wing and where like the billionaires
actually like want things to head is in a more
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authoritarian direction because they don't like anything that's going to
take away their power and so there's a ton of
money behind it. But I feel like there aren't people
that many people behind it, Like they don't have the
numbers and we kind of saw that in the midterms.
I'm hoping is kind of what we saw at the beginning,
like the beginning of a movement to just treat this
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the way that like it common sense, Like most people
are just like that is fucking crazy. We don't want
to be against this like hateful bullshit where we have
to like learn which corporations we have to like pick
it and you know, not use because of like some
intricate ideology that you guys are creating on the fly
(39:36):
that like comes from a place of hatred, you know, right, Yeah,
it's I don't know, but there's so much money, and
money is important in this country the thing.
Speaker 5 (39:45):
Until we kill the money being the be all and
all in this country, everything's going to continue going to
shit unfortunately.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
Because what's happened is right groups like our Schools, which
is the group fighting Moms to Liberty, now they are
starting their own five oh one c four basically to
fight fucking fire with fire, Like okay, bet we can
get donors too, and we can also obscure that too,
so they don't get harassed and shit in a way
to start a pack and they can start putting money
into campaigns and actually like identifying school board candidates that
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need to be elevated and pushed back against the Moms
for Liberty nonsense. And it's wild too, because lawyers for
Moms for Liberty have tried to stop the activities of
these grassroots like counter movements by like hitting them with
like thumb cease and desist orders where they're like, you
are defait. You were actively defaming Moms for Liberty, and
they're like, we are, Actually, I'm sorry, by pointing to
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other parents to their own documented statements like right, I'm
just faming us with direct quotes.
Speaker 5 (40:42):
Right, I forgot what the end game is supposed to be.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
Right, do you don't even know how the do you
know what defamation is? Okay? But and so a lot
of them are like, okay, miss me with these like
spooky like legal letters because at the end of the day,
they feel that they're on a path rightfully to combat
this hate. But it's like but again, I think the
big thing too to notice is a lot of these
other groups, like Defending Democracy, they lack funding. They don't
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have the same kind of funding, and that's what they're
having to contend with is a lot of like well
funded astro turf people who again are able to court
real life parents obviously, because that's how all this shit works,
is to be able to counter that is like really tough.
But the good thing is a lot of parents have
been reaching out to them from across the country asking,
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I got this shit going on in my county? How
do I fucking like, what do y'all do? Like what
is the playbook here? And that message is beginning to
spread like bit by bit, so you know, just a
bit of more heartening news to know that, like while
a lot of the attention goes to these like these
the loudest, most hateful like stochastic terrorist groups, there are
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plenty of people like in this country that are still
just terribly fucking disturbed by what they're doing and are
organizing themselves against it. And that's what it seems to
be the effective thing is you know, collectively fighting back.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
Yeah, they've had this insurgency set up for a while
because they have been you know, the extreme right. So
they have the donors like they have, they have the
money channels and all all the like dark money set up,
and I feel like people who want to fight back
against it, just like are too used to just being like, well,
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the Democratic Party is going to do this, and it's like, no,
we never fight like an insurtent.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
They did not, they did not. We need to fight
like a insurgent, an insurgency and you know, get grassroots
and yeah, because correct action. At the end of the day,
it's it's it's it's it's gonna boil down to class.
Like as much as you think they got a D
by their name that they're going to stand up for you,
I've seen it for decades now. Yeah, where it's a
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it's a fucking shell game of oh yeah, we got
your back. Oh whoops did we say that? Nah? Nah
not bad. A vote for us though, or else these
fascists might take over. You don't want that, right, Okay.
Speaker 5 (43:05):
That's the whole thing. Like, I feel like everything has
to crumble before anybody gets the point, whether it's more
modern Republicans or Democrats, everything kind of has to crumble.
Everybody has to suffer or if there's no consequences and
people don't actually see things taking place that are affecting
them and people they directly know, and so nobody does
anything right, hate it. Let me know when the revolution starts.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
Right, I mean it's true, Like, I mean, that's I think,
especially America, right, It's like we have to get fully
burned on the stove to realize, oh, it's hot, fucking children. Yeah,
it wasn't enough that everybody's been telling you this and
you know, like and it's it's sad though too to
see like to your point, right, until that shit comes
to your doorstep, A lot of people don't fucking get
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the picture. But even like with the recent like the
recent shootings, you saw governors who knew victims in these
mass shootings and they were still like, yeah, I don't know,
that's right. Kind of suck though, But I'm I'm so
entrenched in this like ideology of like guns being like
second to God that I'm just gonna kind of sit
on my hands, even though I know first hand of
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the violence step of fel people.
Speaker 5 (44:11):
I knew how scary.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean now that active shooter drills
are part of most schools in the country because they
have to be. I think again, you're going to see
some natural people kind of voting against this bullshit. But
I think it's not enough to just vote against it,
especially when the only two options are Republicans and Democrats.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
There needs to be direct action at some level. Yeah,
there's either like you can either vote status quo or regression. Right, yeah,
that's really it. No one's offering a path forward, right,
And someone.
Speaker 5 (44:48):
Was, but they just couldn't get past of.
Speaker 2 (44:50):
Course, right. Yeah, yeah, because again the status quo will
do whatever it has to to form arms against anything
that looks like progress. And then you know, that's why,
and that's why this year's Democratic primary is starting in
South Carolina to stack the deck for Joe Biden already
and scare off anybody who might challenge old Joe branded.
But but it's like wild though too. Like it's I think,
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just like with Republicans who are so out of touch,
they're like, well, these people love this shit and they
think it's a platform, ye like, but it's really just
like you got these people really turned up for whatever
the fuck. Like in the same way, Democrats are completely
unable to understand what the stakes are for normal people.
And like I say this all the time, I think
the poorest person a Democratic senator knows is one of
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their aids that works in their office. Yes, right, and
that's that's their view into the fucking real world and they're.
Speaker 10 (45:43):
Like, oh god, and the aids are poor, yeah, which
is which is why you see it like, because that's
why a lot of people of color are actually unable
to be congressional aids because they make nothing.
Speaker 2 (45:56):
It's just like same thing with unpaid internships that naturally,
well healthy people are the only ones that are going
to take those jobs because they'll be like, Okay, I
got your rent while you're working on the hill. Don't
worry about that. It's just very difficult. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (46:08):
I've worked in Washington, DC for a little bit, and
I think I was making like thirty thousand dollars, right,
I was doing it, and that was twenty sixteen. What
was I supposed to do with thirty thousand dollars in
twenty sixteen?
Speaker 2 (46:18):
Not exactly. I think, Yeah, if anything, force you out
of the job, be articulate. Right here we are. Yeah,
that's why they're Hey, that's why they're also trying to
unionize as well, you know, because even congression lads, you're.
Speaker 5 (46:31):
Like, what the fuck is this collective action? I'd love
to see it there you go?
Speaker 2 (46:35):
All right, Well, speaking of direct action, let's take a
quick break and we'll come back and talk about some
whales or I guess large dogs. They were taking some
collective action, for sure. They were taking yeah, all about
it all.
Speaker 1 (46:47):
Yeah, we'll be right back, and we're back, and there's
a story making the rounds. The levels of detail and
implied agency by the killer whales and like motive are
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different from article to article, like the New York Times
weighed in yesterday morning with their take on it. So broadly,
what broadly it's Orca's fighting boats is a pod of
workAs continues to attack and ram and fuck up sailboats
that they encounter, and the behavior is kind of what
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that All the articles emphasize the behavior just came out
of nowhere, like as if we should have expected a
note from the Orcas giving fair warning. But it kind
of can't started. Nobody's seen this sort of behavior from workAs,
but it started in twenty twenty. So far three boats
have been sunk in the last year, and the New
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York Times basically gave this the nothing to see here,
They just play too much. Take like literally, they were
like they're just playing so that they referred to the
crafts as sailboats, even though a bunch of them are
yachts and said there's no explanation, but quoted people saying
it's probably not payback for a boating encounter, which it
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had been something that scientists had suggested, and that it's
unlikely to spread further than this pod. They're like, yeah,
they're teaching each other, but they're probably not gonna like
teach orcus elsewhere in the ocean. So it almost felt
like it was an article like trying to calm down
people with yachts, which.
Speaker 2 (48:38):
Got to keep right. Yeah, and this article is sponsored
by orcer Proof Boats. The article was.
Speaker 1 (48:46):
Actually it did have an article that was like propane
a huge step forward in the path to zero carbon emissions.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
It's just the New York Times. Man. There they are
so just hand in hand with the energy industry.
Speaker 5 (49:02):
This is currently payback for warming the oceans. They're mad,
they aren't going to read it. I know how they
know that they're not going to read it. We don't
know that they're mad.
Speaker 2 (49:10):
So, yeah, there are some of the most they're pretty intelligent,
like they'll get on whatever Discordica or Twitter or whatever
they use to Yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:22):
Yeah, I mean the thing that they're not denying is
that some of the behavior is being taught between the Orkapod,
which is crazy, and the behavior is attacking yachts, is
attacking large sailboats. The Telegraph, who I tend to trust
more than the New York Times because they're not inside
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the US and inside the oil industry as much as
the New York Times. But they gave a more exciting
rundown that I appreciated. They were like, there's this one girl,
White Gladys, and she is on the one because she
fucking hates boats, because they fucked with her. Probably at
some point I'll just read from a quote from again,
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this is the Telegraph, not like the Daily Mail or
one of the Sun tabloids. The Sun avengeful killer whale
called Gladys is teaching gangs of orcas to attack yachts
around Gibraltar, and has already struck three boats, sinking two
of them. It may read like something out of Mobi Dick,
but in this case the truth is stranger than fiction.
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Researchers believe that a female orca called White Gladys is
seeking revenge after being traumatized by a collision with a
boat or being trapped in illegal fishing nets. Her attacks
are now being copied by the rest of the nearby
killer whale population, which has learnt how to ram vessels.
Speaker 2 (50:44):
From their ring leader. Wow, that's that's how you tell
that story. Wow, let them know. Yeah, I like this.
Speaker 5 (50:53):
White Gladys who came up with that?
Speaker 2 (50:55):
Gladys? Yeah, I don't think. Yeah, I want to know
which science just like that's white gladdye right, white Gladdice Lady,
that's that's Gladys. White in the pods with the quote.
Speaker 1 (51:15):
So they actually quote the same people from the New
York Times article, but they like us better parts of
the quote, like one of the people's Like I kept
reminding myself we had a twenty two ton boat made
of steel. But seeing three of them coming at once,
quickly and at pace, with their fins out of the
water was daunting. I couldn't believe it when I saw them.
(51:36):
We were sitting ducks. Oh hell yeah, yeah, I mean yeah,
that's that's what.
Speaker 2 (51:41):
It feels like. It goes A clearly larger matriarch was
definitely around and was that was almost supervising.
Speaker 5 (51:49):
Yeah, so it's time to say we're all team Orcas,
right oh.
Speaker 2 (51:54):
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, we love yeah, oh yeah, we
stand with the based orcas.
Speaker 5 (51:58):
I would hate humans too, I get it.
Speaker 1 (52:01):
Yeah, the two little workAs observe the bigger ones technique,
and with a slight run up, they too slammed into
the boat. And then they talk about May twenty twenty
one boat getting banged up so bad by these workAs
that it sunk. Definitely feels like a trend. Yeah right,
I don't I don't know if it's like specifically they're like, fuck,
(52:24):
they're really fucking it up. We need to start taking
taking action, maybe inspire something on their part. Probably not,
but the fact that it's I don't know, it's really cool,
and it sends a clear, if accidental, nevertheless poetic message
at a time when humanity needs to start ramming yachts,
(52:48):
either literally or figuratively.
Speaker 2 (52:50):
Take inspiration from the yachts. Yeah, please my proletarians. Yeah,
we will fucking smash them. Oh man, it's it's yeah.
I'm like, really, I really need it to be that
the orcs know what time it is. Yeah, even though
it's not, I don't know. I don't Again, I don't
want to. I don't want to just like knee captain
there and and and say that they don't know what
(53:11):
they're doing. But wouldn't that be some ship like if
that Like, I don't know, this is a this is
a very interesting beginning of a movie, right yea that yeah,
I've been waiting for them all to just like get
together and turn it like like the birds, but just
all animals are just like, all right, we got we
gotta get the get these people the funk out of here, right,
(53:31):
I'm done with them fucking fucking with us, man. Yeah,
let's go. Let's go watch you up all the wires. Yea.
These crows, we know, crows communicate and teach each other's
ship like let's go. Yeah, scary right yeah, and yet
I would be watching it eating popcorn and be ye static.
(53:53):
But jack, you know any think of the yacht owners
though I know it was dawning for this woman to
see the orcas coming at full speed. We were just
trying to move our boat because we're doing some light
tax evasion. Right, I am daunted.
Speaker 5 (54:13):
I feel done a little money laundering.
Speaker 2 (54:15):
That's it. Yeah, that's it. And then oh the orca
is now look at the cops.
Speaker 1 (54:19):
Now, come on, but they're not anyways, So we'll keep
monitoring this story and hopefully has it.
Speaker 2 (54:25):
Hopefully White Gladys come on the show. Yes, tell your side,
White Gladys. I want to know if White Gladys's manager
is out there, just you know, hit us up. We
love to have on the shot. Yes, with death Row Records, Well, Sequoia,
(54:46):
such a pleasure having you on the zeitgeist. Where can people?
Where can people find you? Hear you all that good stuff?
Speaker 5 (54:54):
You can hear me on my podcast Black People Love Paramore.
You can find me across all social media platforms at Sequoia,
be Homes or at BPLP pod across all social media platforms.
Speaker 2 (55:04):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And is there a work of media
that you've been enjoying.
Speaker 5 (55:09):
I have been enjoying every single Renaissance footage that I've seen,
against my will, but very much kind of happily.
Speaker 2 (55:18):
Okay, are you are you? Are you in to see
the tour? Yes?
Speaker 5 (55:21):
I am going to the stut Temper show.
Speaker 10 (55:23):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (55:24):
Are you one of the birthday shows?
Speaker 5 (55:25):
It is not the birthday show. She put the Birthday
show on the lineup after I had already gotten the
tickets for the September, so I'm really annoyed.
Speaker 2 (55:32):
Yeah, yeah, I hear that. You think Kendrick will come out.
Speaker 5 (55:34):
I do wish think you're just gonna come out? Yes, absolutely,
I think it might be for the birthday show though,
so I don't know.
Speaker 2 (55:39):
Ah yeah, okay, okay. And also I just have to
ask you, do you think Beyonce has a burner? Because
that's how everybody flipping out about how she was doing
heated on the on the on the Club Renaissance stage.
Speaker 5 (55:49):
Hell yeah, she has a burner. Yeah, absolutely, they have to.
Speaker 2 (55:54):
I can't. I can't live in a world where these
people don't have burner accounts to know. Like, even though
I would deify Beyonce like she's above wanted to know
what the fuck people think about her, part of me
knows she's still as.
Speaker 5 (56:07):
A mom, giggling at memes on her burner account, getting
on Blue Iby's nerves.
Speaker 2 (56:10):
I know, amazing. Miles, where can people find you? What
is the work media you've been enjoying? Find me on
Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray. Also find Jack
and I on our NBA podcast, Miles and Jack Got
mad boosties or sad boosties because my Lakers, you know,
(56:31):
But that's fine. I'm very zen about it. I'm very
zen about we did very well. Actually, I got to
say I was not expecting us to do that well.
And also, if you like ninety Day Fiance and terrible
trash reality show, and catch me on my other show
with Sophia Alexandra for twenty Day Fiance, So you know
what time it is. A tweet I like is from
Hugh Moore at Hugh Underscore More, who tweeted Lebron never
went to college. He could just go play with his
(56:52):
son at USC then retire mission accomplished. Yeah, some people
like speculating what his NI deal would look like. Oh
my god, just do it? Fine?
Speaker 6 (57:04):
Why not?
Speaker 2 (57:05):
I love that. I love that movie Lebron James goes back,
goes to college, back to Yeah, just document every second
of that. Release the documentary. It's like back to School
Part two Lebron and shit.
Speaker 1 (57:18):
Yeah, oh I love that The hype tweeted Isaac Newton, Hey,
what the hell stop that me throwing apples at his head?
Speaker 2 (57:27):
What other theories you're hiding in there?
Speaker 1 (57:29):
You piece of shit?
Speaker 2 (57:32):
That one really got me.
Speaker 1 (57:35):
You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore. O'Brien,
you can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeikeeist. We're
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We post our episodes and our foot note. We link
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as well as a.
Speaker 2 (57:53):
Song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what's the
song you think?
Speaker 3 (57:58):
You do?
Speaker 2 (57:58):
You know all that UK drum and bass sound is
so super big, you know, the artist like Pink panthersts
Nea Archives, people like that. There's another artist I just
found called you Nay pink Who who is half Malaysian
half Irish and got like the you know, just just
loving this like revival of like the UK rave sound.
And yeah, this is her track called Bluff and it's
(58:21):
got great you know, great little little bounce to it
and her vocals are just like perfect over it. So yeah,
if you're into that kind of music, you should definitely
check this out. This is Bluff by you Nate pink Who.
All right, we will link off to that footnote.
Speaker 1 (58:33):
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Speaker 2 (58:40):
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Speaker 1 (58:41):
That is going to do it for us this morning,
back this afternoon to tell you what's trending, and we'll
talk to you all then fighte bye
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season two eighty eight, episode.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
This is the podcast where we take a deep dive
into america shared consciousness. And it is Thursday, May twenty fifth,
twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
National tap Dance Day, All my Gregory Hinz fans Unite,
National brown bag It Day, National Wine Day, Towel Day,
Geek Pride Day, which looks like it's just like if
you like video games of Star Wars rise up internationally,
International Plastic Free Day, among many others. So's there you go, stack,
this is tap dancing gonna come back.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
I feel like every time I see tap dancing in
an old movie and they're really like doing it, well,
I'm always like, man, that shit is cool.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Did it every goay?
Speaker 1 (00:45):
I don't know if it yeah, maybe it just never
went away. But like tap dancing and movies, Yeah, it
was the last movie that had like a real where
they just solved the conflict with some tap dance.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
La la land are there tap dancing a little bit
of tap dance?
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Yeah? There was price in tap dancing. That's why that's
why I want to war. I mean, it's i think
it's on TikTok. I've been watching there's like this black
girl who's an amazing Irish step dancer and like killing it,
like to the point where you're like, oh no, it's
like you're changing the game of Irish step dancing. So
it's it's it's alive. Well, I was saying there for
the fancy footwork.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Is it'sing in the NBA, why not on TikTok. You know,
my name's Jack O'Brien aka whoa never let the Zeit
Gang down? That is it was just in my head
this morning when I woke up collect I'm so real
to be joined as always by my co host, mister
Miles Grad.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
You know what I'm aka that also, I just thought
up in my twilight of half waking up this morning
and here we go. I've been thinking about you way
star roll Roy Coole. I just wanted to merge you
with my go Joe. Yes, I'm Lucas Madson. Oh you
heard about Let's Field, do you do?
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Oh you're not think so far, because I just send
my blood to Ever thinking of is I just sent my.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
Blood to Ever?
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Oh man, what a weird plot point for that character.
But anyway, I know, shout out Frank Ocean and that
had to have come from some weird CEO behavior, you know.
Oh yeah, I'm sure that came out of someone's like
like autobiography.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
And I just thought it would be funny if I
started freezing blocks of my blood and sending them out
in the mail.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Yes, man, you we were just listening.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
We were listening to an a cappella version of that
song yesterday, and they didn't go for it. They didn't
go high. They were cowards, And I was they were cowards.
You nailed it. I'm so impressed.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
I Look, that's one of the few things I can
do sometimes is a falsetto. And I think hearing those
cowards in that college a cappella group and not go
for the falsetto for that's absolute spineless cowards. That's a goward. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Fu well, Miles. A little house keeping up top. We're
gonna keep telling people that we are trying a new
publication schedule out for the summer.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
First time in the history of the show.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
We're going to scale back to a mere eight episodes
a week, use that extra bandwidth to try some new
episode formats out.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
To kind of keep things fun. You know, you might
you might hear a musical episode somewhere in the future.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Yeah, maybe we'll see. But for you the listener, the
difference will be one episode on Friday, one episode on Monday,
and then yeah, we'll be doing some different things on
Tuesday's episode.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
It's gonna be fun. I think you guys are gonna
like it. You're gonna love it.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
And also we are using these new formats to try
and hear a little bit more from the listeners. We
have great relationships with you guys on Twitter in the discord,
so we want to hear from you on the show
and of course in the akas where you know, the
true stars of the AKA section are the listeners. But
(04:07):
we want to hear about your jobs. We want to
hear what's what's something interesting about your job, what's the
craziest thing that ever happened to you on your job?
With something most people misunderstand about your job?
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Hit us at.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter in the discord, let us know,
can keep it anonymous, can.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Or or not?
Speaker 1 (04:25):
We'll use your full name and social Security number whatever
you want, whatever you want. Yeah, so that's a lot
of housekeeping up top. Thank you to our guest for
sitting patiently by. Well, we do all of that. We
are thrilled to be joined by a hilarious pop culture
expert who hosts the show Black People Love Paramore.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
It's so quoil.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
Is such a stretch. I don't even want to set
that expert. I was listening to some episodes you, but
thank you very I do appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Thank you for joining us. Yeah, we're happy to have you.
When did you get that? I got to ask you,
when did you get the idea for the podcast? Because
I remember there was like a Nylon article years ago
that was like, you know, black people love Paramore and yeah,
I'll tell you black and these people love Paramore too,
because I fucked with Paramore heavy. You know, yeah, I.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
Got the idea after that Nyline article. I'm aware of
it now, but I got the idea when my roommate,
a white woman who I've lived with for ten years.
We don't live together now for the first year, but
we did ten years ago. She said that she hated Paramour,
and personally, I felt like that was anti black, and
so I decided, you know what, I'm going to give
us the representation we desire.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Yeah, yeah, you love Paramore. Yeah, and on the podcast,
you don't you talk about many other things, so it's
not always specifically like Paramore I saw it.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
It's almost like never Paramore. Honestly, we talked about a
whole bunch of other stuff. Yeah yeah, yeah, Anime.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
The Hills, the Hills, yea, the huge for Tony Hawk,
Tony Hawk. Yeah, yeah, Haley too. You know I started
off a Haley fan. I think also that what misery business.
It just it started off in a way that I
was like, what, this is a rock song and then
let's go.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
It has a little group to it. You get into
it like oh okay, yeah yeah, exactly exactly Phil Collins.
I was surprised by Phil Collins. Yes, yes, yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Yeah, yeah yeah. Cool amazing.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Well, we're thrilled to have you. We're going to get
to know you a little bit better in a moment. First,
we're going to tell the listeners a couple of things
we're talking about in the news section. Nicky Haley's transphobia
is not working everywhere, work in some places, yeah, but
kind of a specific take that doesn't doesn't work with independence.
(06:39):
So we're gonna listen to some audio from a Nicky Haley.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Yeah, yeah, just working material.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
We'll talk about Moms for Liberty, which you'll be surprised
to learn is fascist organization that is attacking school boards.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Is like astro Turfs.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
You know, bunch of dark money going into this, and
how people are actually fighting back against this bull working.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Yeah. Some good news people fighting back and it's working.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Some other good news whales are fighting back or dolphins
orcas are sinking boats off Portugal and unprecedented coordinated attacks.
The New York Times is calling them sail boats, but
there's a lot of yachts at yachts going down. Yeah,
New York Times doesn't want anybody to get any class
consciousness involved with us. But yeah, they're sinking big sailing
(07:33):
vessels sometimes known as yachts. So we'll just talk about
all of that plenty more. But first, Sequoia, we like
to ask our guests, what is something from your search history?
Speaker 5 (07:46):
Okay, so about a year ago, there was a moment
that went viral that was very old. It was Elmo
on Jimmy Fallon right. He was cooking and the person
who voice acts Elmo slipped into the New York accent
by accident. That resurface on my Twitter timeline, but it
wasn't the actual clip, it was just a reference to it,
(08:08):
so I had to go search it because it truly
had me on the floor for about five days straight.
When I first saw it, I thought I was gonna
pee my pants.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
I beg you fucking breathe.
Speaker 5 (08:20):
And if I really think about it too hard right now,
I'll I'll actually ruin this podcast. And sorry laughing. So yes,
if you have not seen that Almo clip, the black
Elmo clip, hilarious, the funniest thing. Balsamic vinegar. It's so funny.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Oh is that okay? Just how to dismiss me pointed out?
Or is he he just keeps it moving.
Speaker 5 (08:44):
Almo notices it and says, that's a big word for Almo.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
It's by I see someone Wait if someone just doing
the voiceovers onions extent from vinegar. Okay, you heard you know,
(09:10):
Jimmy word to I need that bosomic vinegar very much.
Speaker 6 (09:15):
That.
Speaker 7 (09:16):
How do we get here? How did Elo get here?
The garlic already started off a little garlic, it was garlic,
and then it gets into balsamic vinegar and it's just hilarious.
So yes, that was my most recent search.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
I love the I love this one lip sync lip
dub of it on TikTok where this woman is like
Saint running it down and when it gets a balsamic vinish,
she got a bubble goose jacket on Yeah got on Sudden? Exactly?
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Is the Elmo voice somebody like from New York, like
from the Bronx.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
I think he was from Billy if I'm not mistaken
at the time, I think Elma was voiced by a
man from a black man.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
From Philly that. If I'm wrong, he's actually from Baltimore.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
Okay, right, m gotcha?
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Gotcha? Yeah? What is something you think is overrated?
Speaker 5 (10:09):
This one's very divisive. People hate me for it. Cheese cheeses,
cheeses discussion and constantly I've had enough, let it go.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
I love the power of this take. If it's everywhere.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
If you can't cook your recipe without an abundance of
cheese on top of it, you simply cannot cook and
we can leave it at that.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Wait can be very fine. Oh no, walk me through this.
So what are you encountering out there where you're like,
what the fuck is this cheese?
Speaker 5 (10:32):
I go to a restaurant I'm like, oh, can I
have the broccolini? You bring me broccolini with cheese on
top of it? Why is there cheese on top of
my vegetable?
Speaker 2 (10:38):
That I didn't want?
Speaker 5 (10:39):
That very good point, like I wanted a vegetable, Like
I wanted a vegetable. Why is their cheese on top
of it? You bring me truffle fries. Why is their
cheese on it? Because they didn't say that. I just
had truffle Why why is there? Why is there cheese
on my trouble fries?
Speaker 2 (10:51):
I want that? Yeah, got to be in the mood.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
I will, first of all gladly admit I can't cook,
and that's why I do a nice layer of cheese
on at like cereal in the morning.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Yeah, my god, just American cheese. Like he's putting over
a dead body.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
He's like, okay, if we really want to talk about
cereal to putting the milk first actually makes the most sense.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Sorry, wow, talk to me about that too. No, I like,
I love this. Wait, why milk first? And I love
the just if.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
We just want to talk about science, okay, it allows
the cereal to stay crisp longer because all of it
is not getting super wet. You throw the milk in first.
It's cold, Okay, it has to be cold. You put the.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Cereal on the top, corn milk out at your house.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
I mean, you can't even put ice and if you want,
that's that's a little great, just what you could put
ice in if you want, and you put the cereal
on top. Also cold. I keep the cereal refrigerated so
that it stays crisps a long time. Don't wet it. Yeah,
you know how much milk because you've done it for
your whole life. If you're meat.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Man, and then you're doing little scoops of the milk
as you like pull the cereal off the top.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
That down, you get it. You got the you have
the drop everything this like the dry pile up top.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
Basically I don't like the way that you you said that,
but yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Ye just very just trying to help the listeners because
it's very visual. So the base layer which is contacting
the milk, do you ever do you scoop from the bottom.
Do you take from the bottom so it slowly like
moves down, you know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (12:36):
You stab the cereal at an angle so that it
goes straight down. Most of perpendicular and misses. Most of
the cereal gets into the milk and you pick it
back up.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Okay, and you're just taking the wet layer with each bite,
but it's newly wet.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
And you're taking the newly wet moist layer with each
bite and putting your mouth for the most desirable experience
that you can have with cereal.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
And what is your cereal of choice?
Speaker 5 (13:05):
Captain crunch but no crunch berries.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Wow, someone's an adult.
Speaker 8 (13:10):
You know, no cheese, nothing but the sea.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Yeah, keep okay, okay, okay, I see the crunch berries.
All right. I feel like we've learned a lot that
I I totally agree with you. Like, I am a
huge cheese fan.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
I love a lot of cheese on everything, but the
broccolini really fucks me up. Like it broccolini does not
need it. And when when they put it on, it's
just it does. It's usually a sign that it's not
going to be that good.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
Oh my gosh. I had clam chowder recently, which one
of my favorite foods that also puts cheese, but like
it had like Manhattan, Manhattan.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Okay, that makes little more.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
No no, sorry, the white, the white, it was like
all there were cheese in it. I asked, because I
could taste it, and I asked and they were like, yeah,
they put a little.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Why for what? I've never heard of that at all,
Like what kind of cheese, like yellow cheese, like.
Speaker 5 (14:13):
The white cheese. I don't know what it is.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
I guess like broccoli cheddar is a cheesy soup.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
So maybe they were trying to bring But that's a
that's a mess.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
I was in d deservedly so.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
So DC you have to answer for that.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Toe. Sometimes I'm looking at summers say that there's cream
cheese and a lot of clams.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
There, that it must have been cream cheese. But I've
never tasted it before, and I could.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
That's to the point where you're like, cheese.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
Cheesy clam chowder.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Why right? I get that it's creamy obviously that's what
we're gravitating towards. But the yeah, I don't, I don't
know cheesy fish. Keep it cream cheese, and I'm disgusting.
You know, it's like like the fish sandwich. You know what,
that's cheese?
Speaker 5 (14:56):
People people people say, that's that's with cheese.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Oh yeah, gotta have that. Look again, look different strokes
for different folks. Yeah, you have it. I appreciate you
fighting back your your desire to vomit from him saying
that you're I'm happy for you though, thank you, thank you,
very diplomatic answer. I appreciate that. And are you anti
cheese across the board or just like on certain.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
Foods across the board anti cheese. I do like fake
cheeses though, like a nacho cheese sauce that you get
from a movie theater, Cheetos cheese dust. You know, I
like that. I love it.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
I'm just look at you're like, hey, I brought out
a little cheese board for y'all, and you're like, okay,
over here we have our cheese. This is some loose
cheeto dust. You can just get that.
Speaker 5 (15:46):
I should do that for my birthday. I'm gonna host
like a little thing for my birthday. I was gonna
have a arhooery board. Maybe I'll put fake cheese on
it just to troll people.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it'll bring it'll bring the
elitist out of somebody, Like somebody's gonna be caught.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
This is not cheese, and it's not it's not a
lactose thing. Because you are one of the foremost experts
in how to consume milk with cereal.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
So it's you don't have a problem with lactose.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
You're out here in New England clam chowder with my
cereal if not an almond.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
But I'll take a one percent if you have it.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Yeah, okay, yeah, keep your milk eleak.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Yeah. What is something you think is underrated?
Speaker 5 (16:27):
Magnesium glyconate for sleeping?
Speaker 2 (16:31):
That is so specific? God, magnesium? Sorry what glyconate?
Speaker 5 (16:38):
Magnesium glyconate? Specifically, magnesium comes in different forms. You can
get a bunch of different little endings. The glycier one
for sleeping in particular.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Magnesium when the the number one auto complete for magnesium
space and Google is glaconate. So it is it is
us who are wrong, followed by magnesium and cheese, which
is and cheese.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Yeah, mag and cheese. Wait, so what is what? Yeah?
Tell me where where did you hear about it? What
is is it? Is it for helping? Is it like
a sleep aid or what's going on?
Speaker 5 (17:14):
It is a sleep aid. I heard about it from
the journal, the very scientific journal that I always consume
TikTok and it helps you sleep, but it doesn't help
you get to sleep. It helps you get into a
deeper sleep once you are asleep. So my whole life,
I was like, I don't really dream that often. I'll
like have dreams sometimes, well like not super often, maybe
(17:34):
once every couple weeks. Turns out, I'm just not getting
into rim sleep where dreams happen enough, or staying in
m sleep long enough, and magnesium glyaconate allows me to
stay into rimsleep for a long time. So once I
started taking it, I started having these really intense dreams
that I thought were like hallucinations. Turns out that's normal
and everybody has them. I just wasn't dreaming like that
(17:55):
before because I wasn't sleeping like that.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
So, wait, would describe one of your dreams. It's like
very like, Okay, I had this one. I was I
had to give a speech at school.
Speaker 5 (18:01):
And I'm doing No, it's nothing like that. I had
a dream. Oh my god. Okay, I had a dream
that one of my friends who had just gone to
Europe for his birthday for a month, I was watching
his location on Find my Friends, and I told him
to come to where I was, and so I'm watching
him cross like the boot of Italy on some some
(18:22):
it's so random on some bridge he's going through the
boot of Italy to get to me somewhere also in Europe.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Yeah, yeah, and it's like dark out.
Speaker 5 (18:31):
There's like a lot of stars around. I'm with some
person I don't know who they are. Stuff like that.
Very just super random, but very vivid.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Dream Yeah, okay, I'm to look into that. Yeah, we're
big dream heads on this podcast. There. I feel.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
I feel like there are insights in there if you
just like, you know, keep track of them and like,
don't be too specific, don't be like, oh so I'm
going to see my friend on a bridge on the boot,
but like there's you know, I think there's power are
there coming from the unconscious.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Part of our minds? That?
Speaker 5 (19:03):
I agree?
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Yeah, I think that's the most powerful thing the humans
have access to if you know how to use it.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
So that's cool. Magnesium glaconate against dreaming. Combine that with
my th HC.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
That will always Now that's the thing. I'm scared of
forming a dependency, so I won't do it more than
two nights in a row, So the other nights I'll
do my magnesium. But yes, definitely felt.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Now the combo.
Speaker 5 (19:31):
Yeah, yeah, anything I'm like, oh, this is like anti coomactic.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Yeah, magnesium and th A C.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
Now I am not a doctor, so take this for
what it's worth.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
But whiktok, you know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (19:52):
Naturally an osragonda supplement plus magnesium glacinate plus a little
th HC will actually have you in a student.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
You might not wake up on that.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Well, I'm seeing already like people are talking about combining
actual GANDHA and magnesium gli. Oh, there's all kinds of
stuff going.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
Okay, so it's a little crazy.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Let us know, let us know if that's how you
get downsik yeah, yeah, all right.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Uh, let's take a quick break and we'll come back
and talk about Nicki Haley. We'll be right back, and
we're back and Nicki Haley. The Republican primary has kicked off,
(20:38):
and all of these people are in just lose lose
situations because yeah, they're they're they're all going to lose.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
I think they're all lose people to start off with.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
But so they but they gotta they gotta get out
here and try and rally the base, even though they
don't believe any of this shit. I don't think for
the most part, and and then but then also try
and become like media darlings, and it's just it's dark.
It's dark out there.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
The primary is basically, though, who can be the bigger
asshole contest right now? To prove to the base that
you are an absolute evil doer. And like as Nicki Hayley,
the former South Carolina governor, towards the country to try
to make her case that she is also an inhumane monster,
she's also had some time to see like what material
works with certain crowds. You know, got to workshops and
(21:32):
jokes some material. But it's clear, right like, just like
to your point in Jack, that no one is going
to get the nomination unless you take a couple of
these boxes. First, are you a homophobe? Transphobe? Okay? Are
you racist? Okay? Do you also believe that bud Light
is the true enemy of the American people? If you
answered yes to these questions, then you can move to
the next round. But now, so all of these talking points,
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along with like the anti woke shit, they do well
when you talk to a room full of people who's
brains have been malformed by chronic Fox News viewing. And
so I just want to. I just want to compare
two audiences where Nicki Haley was just trying some material out. First,
she's with a she's with some Republicans in New Hampshire. Uh,
and she decides to evoke Dylan mulvaney, the trans influencer
(22:15):
that recently collaborated bud Light. And we are we already
know about the outrage around that. So let's let's hear
Nicky Haley first of all, like completely misgender Dylan mulvaney
while also just going on this attack, and just see
how the audience receives this, this this material.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
I guess I'll call it and have any of y'all
seen Dylan mulvaney?
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Do you know who that is on the beer?
Speaker 8 (22:38):
Let me tell you something.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
I know that there are transgender people out there. That
is not a transgender person. That is a guy dressing
up like a girl making fun of women.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Every one of.
Speaker 5 (22:57):
You women have seen that.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
So that audience was fully on board with that nonsense.
What what the fuck?
Speaker 5 (23:07):
She thought she was doing a stand up set.
Speaker 9 (23:08):
She thought that's what they all think they're doing, right,
And you can tell because now now okay, now we're
just we'll juxtapost that with a with a room full
of independence in the same state in New Hampshire and
goes along with this same nonsense transphobia and.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Just just just check out, Like is that one audience
the second Nikki Haley said Dylan mulvane, people like, yeah,
we know, just listen to this group of independence right now.
This is her doing the same thing everybody know about.
Speaker 6 (23:36):
Dylan mulvaney bud life right, Make no mistake. That is
a guy dressed up like a girl making fun of women.
Women don't act like that.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Hold for applause, nothing, she looks confused.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Nothing was the loudest silence, like the room tone Oh yeah,
video was deafening.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Oh yeah shit. You could hear like someone's wristwatch, Like
I know, it was like super wild. So you know, again,
this is just just showing you kind of like when
you're in a room full of like you know, an
unaffiliated independent voters, like they're not all they're not clued
in on this like culture warshit like these like the
MAGA room was, and it's just it just shows you,
(24:27):
right Like this is like I think the hard part
about the GOP trying to win a national election, the
base feeds off of the hateful rhetoric and they need
to hear that bullshit in order for a candidate to
register as like a Republican in their frame, you know
what I mean, Like, oh, they've evoked like the three
Hateful truths, Now I know what room I'm in. But
like appealing to their base isn't enough, and so they
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also have to court independence, many of whom are not
aware of like the woke wars happening on Fox News,
and also believe in things like body autonomy or LGBTQ
rights and so. And it's funny because Nikki Haley in
some rooms tries to be like, obviously, like abortion is
an important topic. She's smart enough to never She's smart
(25:10):
enough to say like, well, obviously on pro life, but
also smart enough to never say what the cutoff is
for whatever kind of abortion band that she would potentially
enact as president, because that's just like sort of this
weird middle space that they're having to occupy in terms
of like, you know, the party platform. But again, I
think this is all part of why we're seeing just
like this very stark turn towards fascism, because when they
(25:33):
don't like something, they cry about it and use every
tool to intimidate people and incite violence, like they did
this with the election results. And as they see that,
like man, our chances are fucking getting slim. If we
keep saying this shit to get the base out, it's
at the cost of getting a majority of people to
vote for us. So now we see now we see
more and more of this same pattern beginning to play
(25:55):
out in other places, not just like with respect of
maybe school boards and things like that, but also consumer goods,
right like with bud Light and now fucking Target because
they're selling pride clothed, like pride clothing in kids sizes,
like with stuff that says cure transphobia, not trans people,
or I'm meant to be here, stuff like that, and
people are now completely the right wing's completely lost and
(26:16):
been like it's they've caused a Satanic panic. They said
the person designing it is was wearing like a Satan
shirt because it said like Satan respects pronouns. Is like
one of the pictures this person's wearing, and they're like,
they're a Satanists, And this is what they're trying to
do through Target, where they are saying things like they
are selling like tuck friendly bathing suits for kids, when
(26:38):
they're just pointing out like extra fabric that's like in
the like the bottoms of like a bathing suit.
Speaker 5 (26:43):
Oh my god, it sounds like middle school conspiracy theories.
It's embarrassing.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Yeah, yeah, and it really Yeah and for like all
this shit that you know Niki Hayley's talking, but I
was saying like because later on in that in that
room in New Hampshire, she tries to pivot to say
and it's no wonder why do we have like these
rates of attempted suicide increasing amongst adolescent curls and trying
to connect trans people to that as if like because
(27:08):
they are making fun of CIS women and that's and
it's like, no, it's because of the other ring, Like
what you're doing with trans people and other groups like that,
that's what leads to people being falling into despair to
the point that there they have that kind of ideation.
So it's just yeah, again.
Speaker 5 (27:25):
I couldn't even find it, Like I didn't know what
you were implying when you were trying to explain what
she was saying, because like it was such a leap
I didn't know what she was trying to say at all.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Right, because it's so I think, because it's such a
terrible distillation of just people being like, well they're they're
biologically not that, so they're making fun of us. Yeah,
and that's why I'm hateful, right, I think. I don't know,
I don't know. I'm not sure.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
I mean, it's like there, this is a form of
something that the right has been doing for a long time,
with like the you know, screaming, you know, being not
the majority of the country, but being also the loudest
whenever anything offends their delicate sensibilities has worked for them,
(28:11):
you know, when it comes to like the FCC and
making sure that there's no bad words said on TV,
you know, they'll fucking send a massive letter writing campaign
and like that has worked for a long time. It
fucking ended Janet Jackson's career, like in a.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Lot of ways, I mean had a lot to do
with that, right and also less but I mean.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
That's the thing is, like the these corporate CEOs are
not going to be brave and stand up, Like Target
removed their displays, like removing some items from its stores
and making other changes to its merchandise nationwide ahead of
Pride month, after intense backlash from some customers who confronted
(28:58):
workers and tipped over to displays.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
It's like, that's but I mean, I think the other
thing too, is I mean, I get the position targets
into because they said, right now the employees are the
ones having to bear the brunt of like getting threats
get So it is a difficult balance because at one
point you don't want to put the worker there to
be the fucking defender of your corporate values and your
(29:21):
capitalists pursuit of like never ending dollars. But like, at
the same time, I know to your point, it doesn't
help to fucking cave to these people either. Like why
we just talked about this with the Dodgers. The Dodgers
are about to have the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence, which
they're like, you know, these like drag performers who like
raise raise money and you know they fucking lampooon Catholicism,
(29:44):
because yeah, why not. And then they they said, actually,
we don't want to have them because there's too much
right wing pressure. And then they finally got their shit together,
like actually, no, we're going to have them back fucked
that became to our senses. But I don't know how
many I don't know how many times we're going to
see that be the norm, right because once it happens,
like it's just easier for them, like, oh well, just
because like a few hundred people are sending like all
(30:06):
kinds of violent emails and stuff where we have to cave.
And it's just not a good sign. When that becomes
like the mainstream response to people voicing their homophobia and
hateful rhetoric.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Yeah, this would be the time to you know, it's
that it is now like that sort of loud response
anytime their sensibilities are offended, Like is now you know,
connected to a hate campaign that has like an actual
violent political movement attached to it, that is conducting like
domestic terror and openly saying hateful things out loud That
(30:42):
used to I guess they used to probably just say
like in country club locker rooms. But like, there there
is a momentum to this, and we would need a
corresponding strengthening of resolve. And you know, as we're about
to talk about, I think we're seeing it with some people,
but looking for it from corporations. I think we're going
to be disappointed because corporations are always going to triangulate
(31:07):
to try and find like the biggest consumer group they
can by not offending anybody and becoming a story.
Speaker 5 (31:15):
And what we're saying here is that collective action works.
So what's the best counter response to collective action? It
is collective action, right, yeah, so we could all, you know,
we could all get up in arms and do something
that would be great.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Yeah exactly. I mean I think, yeah, it's like it's
it's interest. Like on Charlie Kirk's show, he was talking
about the Target thing, and he's like, this CEO of
targets me he's a groomer or whatever, because look, it's
projection at its finest, all right, Yeah, just just going
after the CEO of Target because Target has been like,
you know, they've done the bare minimum to like just
to support all of their employees. And to the conservatives,
(31:48):
that's like they're trying to they're trying to come after
our kids, the ones that I don't have because I'm
so vile no one wants to procreate with me.
Speaker 5 (31:56):
The ones that you don't give a fuck if they
get shot or not.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Yeah, right exactly, And and but it was interesting to
watch him begin to be like, you know, bud Light
was like a one off, Like he was sort of
starting to like throttle off the bud Light outrage to
be like that was like a one time thing with
an influencer. But Target, they've been doing this, They've been
want to get this. I know it's it's but again,
I don't know like what they always talk about, like, well,
(32:19):
we have to stop giving them our dollars. You won't.
You won't because at the end of the day, none
of this is actually like wrapped up in some real
principled argument or like worldview that you're like philosophically, I
can't let this happen. Y'all are just addicted to the
outrage cycle to be like what who oh, fuck those guys.
I'm not going to Target. Where am I going right now?
(32:41):
Just in the Target to get something, but after that.
Speaker 5 (32:46):
Just to get something right quick?
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Yeah, really quick. I mean it's it's convenient. It's right there, obviously,
because I live in an area where big box stores
are the only place for me to shop. It's kind
of been a weird bind anyway, But like that's what
you're they honestly like they're saying like, oh, we took
victory over bud lighter these other things. I don't know,
maybe because you saw them not be as vocal, sure,
but again, like they're basically terror campaign continues like.
Speaker 5 (33:11):
It's about winning. It's not about any more on high ground.
Like you said, it's about winning, Yeah, exactly. And here's
whe wins say that I don't appreciate you think I'm stupid,
don't lie to me right.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Well, because that's the thing is like their hypocrisy is
all over the place that everyone's like, y'all are so dumb,
like you don't believe in any of this shit. You
just want to feel like you have you can get
one over on people, and you just pick the weakest
groups out there to do that over and over and
over again.
Speaker 5 (33:33):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Yeah, but yeah, it's it's it's disheartening, but there is
a response. There are responses to things like this, because
I don't want to just end this story by saying
like what the fuck, man, look, what the fuck is
going on? So you probably heard of this group called
Moms for Liberty. They're the ones you see like organizing
at school board school board meetings, like arms of Kimbo
with like proud boys, you know, because they can't believe
(33:56):
some words have the word queer or sex in them. Right. Well,
they've now become a national organization with over one hundred
and fifteen thousand members as they say, and dark money
funding because they are a five OZHO one C four
nonprofit where you do not have to disclose where none
of your money comes from. Shout out to the Supreme Court.
Shout out to them. But it's also every political party's
(34:19):
favorite tool. But they were founded in Florida by this
woman after she lost a school board reelection in like
a very red district in twenty twenty and then just
like got in her hate bag and started this group
that now has like deep ties to the GOP and
has been like, you know, behind a lot of book bands,
Like they're the people that you really see turning up
(34:39):
at these like school board meetings and also helping Deronda
Santis with the don't say gay nonsense. So they've they've
flexed their muscle over the last year two years or so,
and many other parents have noticed an uptick in this
group's aggressive tactics, which is basically NonStop harassment, dosing physical
threats of violence to school board members, faculty, or other
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parents that decide to speak up for their kids who
are not like white, cisgendered, or just don't agree with
this hate group. And there's one group called Our Schools
was actually formed as a response to the Charlottesville Unite
the Right rally by a group of moms who felt they're, like, man, like,
we can't just sit and watch and like tell our
kids we did fuck all while all this shit was happening.
So they like, we just want to be able to
(35:23):
push back on whatever we're seeing, like all this ignorance
popping up in our own communities. And like again, they've
been able to slowly build a group, and then once
Moms for Liberty came on the scene, they've been able
to actually start fighting back. So this group Our Schools,
they were doing a lot of stuff, like prior to
Moms for Liberty showing up, they were able to like
(35:44):
get all kinds of more like laws passed or standards
for schools for like more inclusivity and things like that.
But once Moms for Liberty pulled up, a lot of
that shit has been clawed back. And they were noticing
too that like in these meetings of parents that were
speaking out against some of these like more inclusive policies.
They're like, I've never even seen this person before. They're like,
yeah they have. Like some people they said, okay, they
(36:07):
just were not involved at all in like school board
politics until this group. But then other people saying like
they're people were coming in from like way out of
town who are like, they don't even have kids in
the district and are speaking up as if they are.
These people, like as if they are a concerned parent,
which leads a lot of people to be like this
is just fucking AstroTurf bullshit. But yeah, it's caused like
(36:29):
a lot of pushback. And there's another group that called
Defense of Democracy who they again saw these Moms for
Liberty people showing up and being like Christ is king
over at all our children. They're like, oh, not to know, no,
not going to do that. And they began just very
simply organizing other parents that they saw who were like
this is kind of fucked up and like scary, and
(36:49):
I don't like this shit, but I don't know where
to start. So they started doing house meetings and then
they were able to like once the a wave of
school board elections happened in November. They were able to
get a ton of these Moms for Liberty candidates defeated
because they just drew attention to what they were going
on about, even though they said, I'm here to protect
our kids. This is a quote from one of the
founders quote. We treat Moms for Liberty like the KKK.
(37:12):
If you knew that a KKK meeting was happening in
a church down the street from your house, everyone would
be alarmed. We would be picketing, we would be protesting,
we'd have a petition, and that was exactly what we do.
Nice there, it is nice, Yeah, just showing up and
guess what. As a result, this has actually made an impact. Now,
Moms for Liberty like they're they're like they're on the
(37:32):
defensive now, trying to be like, no, we didn't say that,
We never said any of that, because they know how
extreme they look when people are just like have you
heard what they say? And they began to lose a
little bit of influence. Not to say that they're defeated,
but more as more parents are informed about their endgame,
like it's gotten to the point where the main sort
(37:52):
of headquarters of Moms for Liberty are telling all these subgroups, hey,
tone down the fucking the hate shit, try to be
say the thing that we keep saying, be respectful, please,
please please. And that's just from other parents organizing enough
to be like, wey' all need to know what these
people are actually about, because it's not protecting our kids.
(38:13):
They're on there. They have a fascist agenda that they're
trying to bring into our schools and not just not
just come after like non CIS kids or whatever. They
don't even want white kids to learn about the history
of the United States because you know, we don't like
the truth around here. Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
It feels like this is a bad look for the
Republican Party being affiliated with the shit, and like it
just it feels like this is, like you said, AstroTurf.
There's a lot of money behind it because this is
where like the right wing and where like the billionaires
actually like want things to head is in a more
(38:48):
authoritarian direction because they don't like anything that's going to
take away their power and so there's a ton of
money behind it. But I feel like there aren't people
that many people behind it, Like they don't have the
numbers and we kind of saw that in the midterms.
I'm hoping is kind of what we saw at the beginning,
like the beginning of a movement to just treat this
(39:12):
the way that like it common sense, Like most people
are just like that is fucking crazy. We don't want
to be against this like hateful bullshit where we have
to like learn which corporations we have to like pick
it and you know, not use because of like some
intricate ideology that you guys are creating on the fly
(39:36):
that like comes from a place of hatred, you know, right, Yeah,
it's I don't know, but there's so much money, and
money is important in this country the thing.
Speaker 5 (39:45):
Until we kill the money being the be all and
all in this country, everything's going to continue going to
shit unfortunately.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
Because what's happened is right groups like our Schools, which
is the group fighting Moms to Liberty, now they are
starting their own five oh one c four basically to
fight fucking fire with fire, Like okay, bet we can
get donors too, and we can also obscure that too,
so they don't get harassed and shit in a way
to start a pack and they can start putting money
into campaigns and actually like identifying school board candidates that
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need to be elevated and pushed back against the Moms
for Liberty nonsense. And it's wild too, because lawyers for
Moms for Liberty have tried to stop the activities of
these grassroots like counter movements by like hitting them with
like thumb cease and desist orders where they're like, you
are defait. You were actively defaming Moms for Liberty, and
they're like, we are, Actually, I'm sorry, by pointing to
(40:36):
other parents to their own documented statements like right, I'm
just faming us with direct quotes.
Speaker 5 (40:42):
Right, I forgot what the end game is supposed to be.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
Right, do you don't even know how the do you
know what defamation is? Okay? But and so a lot
of them are like, okay, miss me with these like
spooky like legal letters because at the end of the day,
they feel that they're on a path rightfully to combat
this hate. But it's like but again, I think the
big thing too to notice is a lot of these
other groups, like Defending Democracy, they lack funding. They don't
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have the same kind of funding, and that's what they're
having to contend with is a lot of like well
funded astro turf people who again are able to court
real life parents obviously, because that's how all this shit works,
is to be able to counter that is like really tough.
But the good thing is a lot of parents have
been reaching out to them from across the country asking,
(41:27):
I got this shit going on in my county? How
do I fucking like, what do y'all do? Like what
is the playbook here? And that message is beginning to
spread like bit by bit, so you know, just a
bit of more heartening news to know that, like while
a lot of the attention goes to these like these
the loudest, most hateful like stochastic terrorist groups, there are
(41:49):
plenty of people like in this country that are still
just terribly fucking disturbed by what they're doing and are
organizing themselves against it. And that's what it seems to
be the effective thing is you know, collectively fighting back.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
Yeah, they've had this insurgency set up for a while
because they have been you know, the extreme right. So
they have the donors like they have, they have the
money channels and all all the like dark money set up,
and I feel like people who want to fight back
against it, just like are too used to just being like, well,
(42:26):
the Democratic Party is going to do this, and it's like, no,
we never fight like an insurtent.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
They did not, they did not. We need to fight
like a insurgent, an insurgency and you know, get grassroots
and yeah, because correct action. At the end of the day,
it's it's it's it's it's gonna boil down to class.
Like as much as you think they got a D
by their name that they're going to stand up for you,
I've seen it for decades now. Yeah, where it's a
(42:55):
it's a fucking shell game of oh yeah, we got
your back. Oh whoops did we say that? Nah? Nah
not bad. A vote for us though, or else these
fascists might take over. You don't want that, right, Okay.
Speaker 5 (43:05):
That's the whole thing. Like, I feel like everything has
to crumble before anybody gets the point, whether it's more
modern Republicans or Democrats, everything kind of has to crumble.
Everybody has to suffer or if there's no consequences and
people don't actually see things taking place that are affecting
them and people they directly know, and so nobody does
anything right, hate it. Let me know when the revolution starts.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
Right, I mean it's true, Like, I mean, that's I think,
especially America, right, It's like we have to get fully
burned on the stove to realize, oh, it's hot, fucking children. Yeah,
it wasn't enough that everybody's been telling you this and
you know, like and it's it's sad though too to
see like to your point, right, until that shit comes
to your doorstep, A lot of people don't fucking get
(43:49):
the picture. But even like with the recent like the
recent shootings, you saw governors who knew victims in these
mass shootings and they were still like, yeah, I don't know,
that's right. Kind of suck though, But I'm I'm so
entrenched in this like ideology of like guns being like
second to God that I'm just gonna kind of sit
on my hands, even though I know first hand of
(44:10):
the violence step of fel people.
Speaker 5 (44:11):
I knew how scary.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean now that active shooter drills
are part of most schools in the country because they
have to be. I think again, you're going to see
some natural people kind of voting against this bullshit. But
I think it's not enough to just vote against it,
especially when the only two options are Republicans and Democrats.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
There needs to be direct action at some level. Yeah,
there's either like you can either vote status quo or regression. Right, yeah,
that's really it. No one's offering a path forward, right,
And someone.
Speaker 5 (44:48):
Was, but they just couldn't get past of.
Speaker 2 (44:50):
Course, right. Yeah, yeah, because again the status quo will
do whatever it has to to form arms against anything
that looks like progress. And then you know, that's why,
and that's why this year's Democratic primary is starting in
South Carolina to stack the deck for Joe Biden already
and scare off anybody who might challenge old Joe branded.
But but it's like wild though too. Like it's I think,
(45:13):
just like with Republicans who are so out of touch,
they're like, well, these people love this shit and they
think it's a platform, ye like, but it's really just
like you got these people really turned up for whatever
the fuck. Like in the same way, Democrats are completely
unable to understand what the stakes are for normal people.
And like I say this all the time, I think
the poorest person a Democratic senator knows is one of
(45:35):
their aids that works in their office. Yes, right, and
that's that's their view into the fucking real world and they're.
Speaker 10 (45:43):
Like, oh god, and the aids are poor, yeah, which
is which is why you see it like, because that's
why a lot of people of color are actually unable
to be congressional aids because they make nothing.
Speaker 2 (45:56):
It's just like same thing with unpaid internships that naturally,
well healthy people are the only ones that are going
to take those jobs because they'll be like, Okay, I
got your rent while you're working on the hill. Don't
worry about that. It's just very difficult. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (46:08):
I've worked in Washington, DC for a little bit, and
I think I was making like thirty thousand dollars, right,
I was doing it, and that was twenty sixteen. What
was I supposed to do with thirty thousand dollars in
twenty sixteen?
Speaker 2 (46:18):
Not exactly. I think, Yeah, if anything, force you out
of the job, be articulate. Right here we are. Yeah,
that's why they're Hey, that's why they're also trying to
unionize as well, you know, because even congression lads, you're.
Speaker 5 (46:31):
Like, what the fuck is this collective action? I'd love
to see it there you go?
Speaker 2 (46:35):
All right, Well, speaking of direct action, let's take a
quick break and we'll come back and talk about some
whales or I guess large dogs. They were taking some
collective action, for sure. They were taking yeah, all about
it all.
Speaker 1 (46:47):
Yeah, we'll be right back, and we're back, and there's
a story making the rounds. The levels of detail and
implied agency by the killer whales and like motive are
(47:11):
different from article to article, like the New York Times
weighed in yesterday morning with their take on it. So broadly,
what broadly it's Orca's fighting boats is a pod of
workAs continues to attack and ram and fuck up sailboats
that they encounter, and the behavior is kind of what
(47:34):
that All the articles emphasize the behavior just came out
of nowhere, like as if we should have expected a
note from the Orcas giving fair warning. But it kind
of can't started. Nobody's seen this sort of behavior from workAs,
but it started in twenty twenty. So far three boats
have been sunk in the last year, and the New
(47:57):
York Times basically gave this the nothing to see here,
They just play too much. Take like literally, they were
like they're just playing so that they referred to the
crafts as sailboats, even though a bunch of them are
yachts and said there's no explanation, but quoted people saying
it's probably not payback for a boating encounter, which it
(48:17):
had been something that scientists had suggested, and that it's
unlikely to spread further than this pod. They're like, yeah,
they're teaching each other, but they're probably not gonna like
teach orcus elsewhere in the ocean. So it almost felt
like it was an article like trying to calm down
people with yachts, which.
Speaker 2 (48:38):
Got to keep right. Yeah, and this article is sponsored
by orcer Proof Boats. The article was.
Speaker 1 (48:46):
Actually it did have an article that was like propane
a huge step forward in the path to zero carbon emissions.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
It's just the New York Times. Man. There they are
so just hand in hand with the energy industry.
Speaker 5 (49:02):
This is currently payback for warming the oceans. They're mad,
they aren't going to read it. I know how they
know that they're not going to read it. We don't
know that they're mad.
Speaker 2 (49:10):
So, yeah, there are some of the most they're pretty intelligent,
like they'll get on whatever Discordica or Twitter or whatever
they use to Yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:22):
Yeah, I mean the thing that they're not denying is
that some of the behavior is being taught between the Orkapod,
which is crazy, and the behavior is attacking yachts, is
attacking large sailboats. The Telegraph, who I tend to trust
more than the New York Times because they're not inside
(49:43):
the US and inside the oil industry as much as
the New York Times. But they gave a more exciting
rundown that I appreciated. They were like, there's this one girl,
White Gladys, and she is on the one because she
fucking hates boats, because they fucked with her. Probably at
some point I'll just read from a quote from again,
(50:06):
this is the Telegraph, not like the Daily Mail or
one of the Sun tabloids. The Sun avengeful killer whale
called Gladys is teaching gangs of orcas to attack yachts
around Gibraltar, and has already struck three boats, sinking two
of them. It may read like something out of Mobi Dick,
but in this case the truth is stranger than fiction.
(50:27):
Researchers believe that a female orca called White Gladys is
seeking revenge after being traumatized by a collision with a
boat or being trapped in illegal fishing nets. Her attacks
are now being copied by the rest of the nearby
killer whale population, which has learnt how to ram vessels.
Speaker 2 (50:44):
From their ring leader. Wow, that's that's how you tell
that story. Wow, let them know. Yeah, I like this.
Speaker 5 (50:53):
White Gladys who came up with that?
Speaker 2 (50:55):
Gladys? Yeah, I don't think. Yeah, I want to know
which science just like that's white gladdye right, white Gladdice Lady,
that's that's Gladys. White in the pods with the quote.
Speaker 1 (51:15):
So they actually quote the same people from the New
York Times article, but they like us better parts of
the quote, like one of the people's Like I kept
reminding myself we had a twenty two ton boat made
of steel. But seeing three of them coming at once,
quickly and at pace, with their fins out of the
water was daunting. I couldn't believe it when I saw them.
(51:36):
We were sitting ducks. Oh hell yeah, yeah, I mean yeah,
that's that's what.
Speaker 2 (51:41):
It feels like. It goes A clearly larger matriarch was
definitely around and was that was almost supervising.
Speaker 5 (51:49):
Yeah, so it's time to say we're all team Orcas,
right oh.
Speaker 2 (51:54):
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, we love yeah, oh yeah, we
stand with the based orcas.
Speaker 5 (51:58):
I would hate humans too, I get it.
Speaker 1 (52:01):
Yeah, the two little workAs observe the bigger ones technique,
and with a slight run up, they too slammed into
the boat. And then they talk about May twenty twenty
one boat getting banged up so bad by these workAs
that it sunk. Definitely feels like a trend. Yeah right,
I don't I don't know if it's like specifically they're like, fuck,
(52:24):
they're really fucking it up. We need to start taking
taking action, maybe inspire something on their part. Probably not,
but the fact that it's I don't know, it's really cool,
and it sends a clear, if accidental, nevertheless poetic message
at a time when humanity needs to start ramming yachts,
(52:48):
either literally or figuratively.
Speaker 2 (52:50):
Take inspiration from the yachts. Yeah, please my proletarians. Yeah,
we will fucking smash them. Oh man, it's it's yeah.
I'm like, really, I really need it to be that
the orcs know what time it is. Yeah, even though
it's not, I don't know. I don't Again, I don't
want to. I don't want to just like knee captain
there and and and say that they don't know what
(53:11):
they're doing. But wouldn't that be some ship like if
that Like, I don't know, this is a this is
a very interesting beginning of a movie, right yea that yeah,
I've been waiting for them all to just like get
together and turn it like like the birds, but just
all animals are just like, all right, we got we
gotta get the get these people the funk out of here, right,
(53:31):
I'm done with them fucking fucking with us, man. Yeah,
let's go. Let's go watch you up all the wires. Yea.
These crows, we know, crows communicate and teach each other's
ship like let's go. Yeah, scary right yeah, and yet
I would be watching it eating popcorn and be ye static.
(53:53):
But jack, you know any think of the yacht owners
though I know it was dawning for this woman to
see the orcas coming at full speed. We were just
trying to move our boat because we're doing some light
tax evasion. Right, I am daunted.
Speaker 5 (54:13):
I feel done a little money laundering.
Speaker 2 (54:15):
That's it. Yeah, that's it. And then oh the orca
is now look at the cops.
Speaker 1 (54:19):
Now, come on, but they're not anyways, So we'll keep
monitoring this story and hopefully has it.
Speaker 2 (54:25):
Hopefully White Gladys come on the show. Yes, tell your side,
White Gladys. I want to know if White Gladys's manager
is out there, just you know, hit us up. We
love to have on the shot. Yes, with death Row Records, Well, Sequoia,
(54:46):
such a pleasure having you on the zeitgeist. Where can people?
Where can people find you? Hear you all that good stuff?
Speaker 5 (54:54):
You can hear me on my podcast Black People Love Paramore.
You can find me across all social media platforms at Sequoia,
be Homes or at BPLP pod across all social media platforms.
Speaker 2 (55:04):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And is there a work of media
that you've been enjoying.
Speaker 5 (55:09):
I have been enjoying every single Renaissance footage that I've seen,
against my will, but very much kind of happily.
Speaker 2 (55:18):
Okay, are you are you? Are you in to see
the tour? Yes?
Speaker 5 (55:21):
I am going to the stut Temper show.
Speaker 10 (55:23):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (55:24):
Are you one of the birthday shows?
Speaker 5 (55:25):
It is not the birthday show. She put the Birthday
show on the lineup after I had already gotten the
tickets for the September, so I'm really annoyed.
Speaker 2 (55:32):
Yeah, yeah, I hear that. You think Kendrick will come out.
Speaker 5 (55:34):
I do wish think you're just gonna come out? Yes, absolutely,
I think it might be for the birthday show though,
so I don't know.
Speaker 2 (55:39):
Ah yeah, okay, okay. And also I just have to
ask you, do you think Beyonce has a burner? Because
that's how everybody flipping out about how she was doing
heated on the on the on the Club Renaissance stage.
Speaker 5 (55:49):
Hell yeah, she has a burner. Yeah, absolutely, they have to.
Speaker 2 (55:54):
I can't. I can't live in a world where these
people don't have burner accounts to know. Like, even though
I would deify Beyonce like she's above wanted to know
what the fuck people think about her, part of me
knows she's still as.
Speaker 5 (56:07):
A mom, giggling at memes on her burner account, getting
on Blue Iby's nerves.
Speaker 2 (56:10):
I know, amazing. Miles, where can people find you? What
is the work media you've been enjoying? Find me on
Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray. Also find Jack
and I on our NBA podcast, Miles and Jack Got
mad boosties or sad boosties because my Lakers, you know,
(56:31):
But that's fine. I'm very zen about it. I'm very
zen about we did very well. Actually, I got to
say I was not expecting us to do that well.
And also, if you like ninety Day Fiance and terrible
trash reality show, and catch me on my other show
with Sophia Alexandra for twenty Day Fiance, So you know
what time it is. A tweet I like is from
Hugh Moore at Hugh Underscore More, who tweeted Lebron never
went to college. He could just go play with his
(56:52):
son at USC then retire mission accomplished. Yeah, some people
like speculating what his NI deal would look like. Oh
my god, just do it? Fine?
Speaker 6 (57:04):
Why not?
Speaker 2 (57:05):
I love that. I love that movie Lebron James goes back,
goes to college, back to Yeah, just document every second
of that. Release the documentary. It's like back to School
Part two Lebron and shit.
Speaker 1 (57:18):
Yeah, oh I love that The hype tweeted Isaac Newton, Hey,
what the hell stop that me throwing apples at his head?
Speaker 2 (57:27):
What other theories you're hiding in there?
Speaker 1 (57:29):
You piece of shit?
Speaker 2 (57:32):
That one really got me.
Speaker 1 (57:35):
You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore. O'Brien,
you can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeikeeist. We're
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fan page and a website daily Zekeist dot com Moore.
We post our episodes and our foot note. We link
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as well as a.
Speaker 2 (57:53):
Song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what's the
song you think?
Speaker 3 (57:58):
You do?
Speaker 2 (57:58):
You know all that UK drum and bass sound is
so super big, you know, the artist like Pink panthersts
Nea Archives, people like that. There's another artist I just
found called you Nay pink Who who is half Malaysian
half Irish and got like the you know, just just
loving this like revival of like the UK rave sound.
And yeah, this is her track called Bluff and it's
(58:21):
got great you know, great little little bounce to it
and her vocals are just like perfect over it. So yeah,
if you're into that kind of music, you should definitely
check this out. This is Bluff by you Nate pink Who.
All right, we will link off to that footnote.
Speaker 1 (58:33):
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Speaker 2 (58:40):
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Speaker 1 (58:41):
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