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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of The
Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from
this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment laugh stravaganza.
Uh yeah, So, without further ado, here is the Weekly Zeitgeist.
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What is something you think is overrated? Okay, this may
be alarming to you guys. I think kombucha tastes like shit.
I think it's disgusting, and people have gone, no, this
one's good. Try this. They're all trash trash. Is it
the sort of vinegary aspect to it? That? Of course,
it's the vinegar tastes like shit? Yet vinegar chips, why
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oh I love so don't come after my selt vinegar
chip come in. I get in the context of some
of you drink right, you might not want that little bite,
but I get it because sour taste and a lot
of like jack and eese food. So I get it,
but I'm never seeking it. But especially when you go
out like on the East Side, have you been like
little parties or they're like it's all it's all bootch cocktails.
I'm like, no, waterfucker, I don't want jacket. Okay, that's
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something that completely missed me. They do booch cocktail out here.
Yeah it already yeah, it already tastes like something that's fermented,
like that went bad. Well, yeah, you could get a
little buzz, you know, if you got like if you
got the heavy kombuches, but not like but now they're
really making it a cocktails always. One time, when I
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was a kid, I took h orange juice on a
camping trip. It was out in the sun. It went
bad and it like turned on it. And that's what
kombouche is always reminded me of, is the taste of
when I took a big old gulp of like warm
boy Scout prune boy Scout Pruno. I understand drinking it
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for its health benefits. I don't know what those are.
Explain to me. But if that's like if you're like no,
it's you know, it's taking like a shot of wheat
grass or whatever. But when people are like no, it's good,
it's like that now you've gone too far. I'm willing
to meet you there. That they're antioxidants or something. Somebody
ruined coconut water for me by saying that it tastes
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like it's been in somebody else's mouth, and I was like, yeah,
that's true. It really does taste like it's like already
just hung around in the mouth for a little bit.
And kombucha has like a lugi in it for the
most part, like it has like a little piece of
saliva hanging it. What do you talk about? Have you
never looked at the kombucha like, man, because every time
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someone offers it, I mean, I have a sip yo
and that's it. You would look at it and think
it it is basically like iced tea. But if you
pour that ship, there's like, yeah, it's fucking gross, nasty. Though.
People on the rest of the country like what are
they talking where? Planning about bad? First class? And you
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know what this is getting You're pleased and this is
what it's like. Yeah for people, I don't. I'm sure
it's everybody drinks it around the country in some places. Yeah,
it's it's just it's I'm sorry, it's just the cocktails.
That's what I had to draw the line for me.
I'm like, no, do not try and make this. No
but mixing as a mixer that's disgusted. Are you SERI?
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Let's talk about Papa John finally. Okay, So do you
remember in August we talked about that quote unquote secret
video it took when he went to like a board
meeting of pop corporate room meeting, and it was the
most produced thing that you've ever seen. And clearly there
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was a thing that they were alluding to called a
papa dia or like, what the fuck is this now?
Hark and behold death it is papadilla has arrived. And
it looks like I don't have flat bread it looks
like a soft taco moulita kind of thing. It looks
like a taco bell. Uh. Just they wanted to know
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off top, this is not a rip off of the casida, Okay,
it's actually it's called the papadilla. Yeah, but it's not
a take on that, Okay. It's actually inspired by the
pia dina, an Italian flat bread sandwich from the historic
Romagna area of northern Italy. Okay, So even though it
sounds phonetically more like case idia, God forbid, Papa John's
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associate themselves with Mexican quisine. They're just getting over a
racism pr problem and they're like, it's not it's from
the old country. Wouldn't it be papadina papadina now, because
then they're gonna be like that, maybe that didn't test well,
you know how they fucking you know how they It's
meant explicitly papa pe yea, the alliterative quality of that name,
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that word, I think really papapilla, pia, papa whoa, that's
the thing, Mama Mia, papapilla. Yeah, diarrhea, that's a thing.
That's the thing. And we were saying, like folks folk
song from the old times. Yeah, So they're offering it
like they're they're offering it in four different varieties. There's
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Italian with Alfredo, spicy Italian sauce, Solami, mozzarella and banana peppers.
Good thing that chefs kiss and she came out for
the Philly cheese steak. That one makes more sense. When
Philly sauce. What's Philly sauce? Jack? Yeah, probably was I guess, yes,
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I would. If I had to guess, I would say
it is mayonnaise, it's Philly sauce. Well, just based on
every execution of Philly cheese steak that I've had from
a mass chi Papa John, I was like, and here's
the and here's the mayo. Here's like hot steak, like
hot wet steak, some manner of cheese and mayonnaise which
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the heat just turns into translucent grease film like anyway,
then there's if you're lucky, then they have grilled chicken
and bacon, chicken onions, bacon, montrol barbis. Okay, that's straightforward
meat pat Pepperoni spicy, that's the only one that makes sense.
Pepperoni pizza, sauce, mozzarella Talian seasoning. They have spicy meatballs.
I'd work with that one. Actually, you think it's really
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gonna be specie spicy though probably not. No, no, because
it's boardroom spicy, which just means like, oh my god,
did you crack some pepper over this hot hot hot
for one second? Yeah, I mean, you know, I think
all credit due to like every great American company knowing, look,
we have a racism pr crisis, will hire a person
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of color to be the new face, and all is forgiven.
The shout out to check forgetting the bag. Oh yeah,
yeah uh. They definitely definitely enough grade from from what
the sweaty man, he's just a wet what was large
bloated racist what was his static and he's like at
forty pizzas and thirty days. Yeah, yeah, I've been having this. Yeah.
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It was something like I went to college to what's
your point? But he was like talking about how as
like he's been evaluating them. He's been doing that as
like part of his like overall commitment to Yeah, it
was like the world. Yeah, he's a part of his job.
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He just does it as like a it's a calling. Yeah.
I think that's what he was trying to establish. Yeah,
just to keep an eye on like our pizza offerings
like that that we have as fast food and does
he eat does he eat just Papa John's branded pizza
or is he I think he's doing deep recon and
all the well that I've had fifty pizzas and thirty
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days thing was a run up to him criticizing the
Papa John's pizza. So he was trying to act like, look,
I'm not just taking shots because I'm an angry guy
who you know, fired for good reasons. I had fifty
pizzas in thirty days and it gave me diarrhea. Something
needs to be done. What's going on? Papa crisis? Much? Uh?
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And he also in that same interview, talked about how
a day of reckoning is coming, which is it was
like that it should be keeping any out. He's sweaty,
pizza bean, He's gonna walk out at the super Bowl
and after like the field and being like, yeah, your
day is up here has arrived. I've had forty pizzas
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in terrible diarrhea in my weird coat. I was building
to forty pizzas in three days. We need to keep
an eye on Papa but shout out to Shack and
the new Papa John's. And somewhere in this this article
they talk about how it's because it's not a flatbread thing.
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They say, we use Papa John's classic crust that everybody
loves to make this abomination and so that's just pizza.
Come on, we were doing so good man. I guess Pop,
what are they gonna do now? Don't don't bring this
truth out into the light for everyone. I mean, I
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wonder if they're making it on a panini press. I
don't know either way the marks on. Yeah, maybe maybe
I big grill it. Then it would be a little
bit different than the toaster conveyor belt that they send
other pizzas throw Yeah, a little more nuance to this idea.
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Don't just say it out truly, there might be something different,
different traditional pizza's life. Let's talk about Wendy's breakfast. Okay,
thank god, let's switch gears to something really invigorating. I
love a good fast food breakfast. Okay, Mickey D's is
still in my number one, but Wendy's is out here.
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As they say, they are unleashing new breakfast materials I
did not know about. Now, some people apparently may have
been in limited markets, but this new ship. Um, I'm
just looking at this bacon eader breakfast sandwich. It looks
like a guaranteed heart attack by bite three? What about it?
Makes it a breakfast sandwich? The bacon eader breakfast because
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it has egg and a sausage patty, but then everything
else bacon no, no, no no. And it's on a
burger bun though, yeah, huh. What about the So that's
a biscuit that has fried chicken on it? Did I hear?
Because it has bacon, it's breakfast. Yeah yeah, yeah, Well
it's like a chicken biscuit, you know. That's that's how
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that's that's that's how we navigate that one? Love the context?
Did I hear they were going to be doing frosties
with cold brew? Yes? Did Frosty? That is what? Oh? Wait?
Actually no, the bacon eader is has a bacon burger
patty in it. Pardon me, pardon it just has an egg,
And they're like, breakfast. That's breakfast, bro, blow it out
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with that. But then the other ones you can use
traditional breakfast meats. But yeah, the frosty Chino. Yeah. I
I found out about Wendy's Breakfast because I had a
friend who auditioned to be the voice of it, and
she was like, I'm auditioning to be the voice of
Wendy's Breakfast, And I was like, what the funk? Why
didn't I get us to audition? So Wendy's Breakfast is
like started off on a bad foot with me, not
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that secret hater. So you're someone's secret hater. Do you
want to? Bacon aid like, I'm clearly not the voice.
I don't know a Frosty with coffee, you dumb piece
of ship. I'm sorry, Megan. Can we try that one
more time and just stick to what's in the sides there? Okay,
Bacon had a great Do you wish that the frosty
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would make you have to ship incredibly immediately speed home? Yeah?
Those fries in it is that? How will they be
dipping tater tots? Yeah, French toast. I'm sorry, I have
to just the bacon eader does have a sausage patty,
the breakfast bacon eader. So it is they're trying to
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They're trying to respect the sanctity of this is like
the Iowa caucuses you're reporting on. This is just back
and forth we're hearing. And they do predict that this
will in contribute to a ten percent growth in sales. Okay, March. Well,
it turns out we're all okay because children's books are
here to save us. So our writer j M McNabb
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has has a chick my hands off the wheel, I
can stop caring good. Uh So one of our writers,
Jam McNabb, has a son who is in junior kindergarten
and they pick a book once a week at the
school library and the one he picked was called Bully.
It was about a frog with a bunch of wilting
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flowers for hair that were are sort of orange ish,
And it turns out it is explicitly influenced by Trump,
and it's a it's a big metaphor pro Trump. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
The frog look at this frog kick every other frog's ass.
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Go with a winner. They got big frog feed are um.
But yeah, there's so he kind of did some research
and there there are a bunch of different sort of
ideologically influenced children's books being published. In two thousand eighteen,
Scholastic published a book called President Donald Trump as part
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of their Rookie Biography series, and uh it, you know,
it was just a very straightforward book that was like,
he became a president, millions of Americans are counting on
to improve their lives, and there was this and it
worked out. I mean, because if you were to be
honest about it, it would be too explicit for a
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children's books. It's like he has been credibly accused of
sexual assault kids. Yeah, what do you do about that?
They're gonna have enough time in their life when they're
like scared and in pain. Let let the children just
be children for a bit, says a poem about Donald Trump.
His buildings reached into the sky, his businesses just grew
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and grew. Then Trump became our president. People wanted something
new the end that's in the book. Yeah, wow, wow
wow wow. His businesses just grew and grew. Uh. There's
also the pumpkin and the pants suit, so that this
is a story that is wildly um but discouraging. To me,
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this is a ridiculous the cover art we're looking at
the pumpkin and the pants suit is It's just it's
really something, folks mind altering. I don't want to see
that they some how made Trump actually like a wrinkled
pumpkin with weird eyebrows. And I'm and I'm guessing they've
reduced Hillary to a pant suit. Yes, yes, look we're
still gonna be in like forty years. These kids are
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gonna have time to go through this pain. Don't do
it to them now. Let them just play for a
little bit before it descends upon them. Liza Jane and
the Dragon, where a dragon, uh with an orange Maine
is hired to be Liza's new parents, and then she
realizes that the dragon kind of sucks the lying Wait,
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I'm sorry, King was hired to be a new dragon? Yeah,
hires hires a dragon? Is that like a job opening
where you're like, all right, dragon you're hired to play
my father. You don't need like a subtle analogy to
teach children to hate the things you hate. That's the
point of having children, teach them to hate the things
that you hate. And it's very easy to tell them
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this sucks and we all hate it, and they're like, okay,
got it. They're screwed up, and then yeah, they're screwed
up her life. They spend the rest of their life
trying to undo the pres of their parents. And you know,
we have a good system. We don't need the subtle
amalogy amalogies and books. There's also The Lying King about
a word hug who lies in order to gain power,
and The King who Banned the Dark about a king
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who installs artificial son but citizens revolt when nobody can sleep.
Actually sounds kind of cool. Yeah, what is that? What's
the met Okay, because he doesn't like the dark? Yeah,
oh so it's about getting just like vilifying things we
don't know or he's that part is pretty on the nose.
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I think that too. And then a book called The Wall. Um,
it's I mean it makes sense, right, I Like people
feel very powerless to try and affect change with people
who are fully formed adults. So if you're making kids books,
you're like, well, the way I can fight back is
to have these things and indoctrinate them with these kinds
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of stories by sense. Yeah, I mean I don't. The
other thing is, I don't know how many kids are
gonna go, wait a second, the pumping in the pants
suit is about what are you trying to tell? So
in a way, you don't need to go this sort
of hard on those images if you're as long as
you're the lessons there, But what the funk do on
I'm not a child development. I want to see the
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pro Trump books. I got to be off there the
perfect phone called Daddy read me the perfect phone. A um, yeah,
I mean I don't know what. Like, there's a whole
generation of like nine to seventeen year olds who are
currently being uh you know, turned into conservatives by YouTube videos.
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So maybe this is like the the generation coming up
behind them. But if this is what progressives have instead
of YouTube videos, progressivism might be in some trouble. Yeah,
I don't. Yeah, I mean there's there's also deeper lessons
and like it's bad to be a bully, right, and
I think I'm sure, there are plenty of books that
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aren't so narrowly trying to be like I got this
kid's book in the form of a Yeah, but like
truly like like stories about empathy, which there I've read
books like that that. Yeah, Classics Giving Tree is dark
as its A lot of children's books are sucked up.
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It's just a metaphor for being a parent that is
like passive aggressive about how selfish children are and then
they die at actually a good lesson, it's just darking
for parents. I don't know if it's a good lesson
for children. It's like, if you have kids, they're just
gonna use you up and then you're gonna die. But
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what do the kids get out of that? I don't understandable.
Maybe children and it'll it'll help with overpopulation, don't. That's
a lesson here? All right, we're going to take a
quick break. We'll be right back. Yeah, and we're back.
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Candy store dot Com, which is a blog, has released
a list of America's favorite Valentine's candy. Is it by state? Yeah?
By state? One thing I just want to say, right
They start off saying the projected spend uh for like
Valentine's Day. I don't know if this is the year,
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but they this is the this is the the wording
as Valentine's Day indulgences go. Candies are relatively inexpensive one.
It's also become a tradition and is a nice and
easy gesture to make. That could be why people are
expected to spend over two point four billion dollars this year,
up six hundred million from last year. I'm not spending
that much, are people? I mean, I know if Valentine'sday
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candy to be a thing you panicked by it a
CVX just to give to somebody, how is the massive argument?
And it's just candy hearts and chocolate there there's more.
So apparently Eminem's is on the come up. It's moving
up very closely. So In California, third place goes to
chocolate roses. Second place. Roses is not a thing that
I have ever given or really even considered, like chocolate
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dipped roses or like their shaped. Yeah, this is what
they look at the bulb. They're they're like plastic stends
with chocolate candy in the shape of a rosebud and
then wrapped in like cellophane. Conversation for the environment, because
the other one that makes sense that's a state. And
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then conversation hearts is funny. I've never thought of them
being in conversation because I love you. What a vapid
conversation I will um. Yeah. And then number one heart
shaped box of chocolates, which seems to be the one
for everyone. Uh, Jack wars the state you live. Let's
go look at what's popular in Ohio? Shall we in
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Ohio third place? Conversation hearts second places? Oh, I mean,
I guess it's candy corn, but it's pink and red
instead of very yellow and orange. Yeah, you got him exactly. Uh?
And then heart shaped box? All right? No, no no? Then yeah,
heart shaped box of chocolates. Is there one state where
there's just something really like it's not even a can't
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It's like it's like grain alcohol, It's like one bean. Um.
Chocolate hearts is as kind of out there as it.
Guess that's man's number one chocolate hearts. So main um,
Hershey's kisses are also big. Pennsylvania makes sense. Eminem's you
think our Eminem's also Mars? Yeah in Pennsylvania. Yeah, Pennsylvania's
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got Eminem. So does Texas. Uh they kisses Texas kisses. Um. Yeah,
cupid corn is the one thing I see on here
that I'm like surprised. Is a consistently coming up because I, well,
this is where maybe I'm an outlier, but I have
always said I cannot see the candy corn. Alaska's number
three is something I've never heard of. Cinnamon bears, Oh
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the funk? Are those made with real bear? Yeah? What
is a cinnamon bear? Florida, We've gotta we've got to
change last year's winner conversation hearts, but this year heart
shaped box of chocolates has overtaken. Man, we are not original.
I mean, I guess this is typically a holiday where
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men are buying gifts for everyone. Number one whatever is
on sale at CVS Alabama coming with the surprise. Number
one candy necklaces. Alright, Alabem, what is that? But that's
for like kids? Right? Can imagine those ship like that?
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That should will get you in trouble if you're an adult,
you're like, I got you just candy necklace? Like the funk.
They probably put it in like one of those fancy boxes,
like in a like felt covered box. Yeah, cinnamon bears
are just basically gummy bears that are just chock full
of that cinnamon spice um Arkansas. Number three is Geared
Delli gift box. Fancy damn look at Arkansas, k Arkansas.
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Kenny Nicholas is big in West Virginia. Wes Gardelli gift
boxes are also third place in Iowa and Kansas also,
so people like the in the second place in Maine.
I guess that's like if you're classy, you know, like
I think Geared, that's that fancy ship that's Italian. Yeah,
from San Francisco, Utah. It's just whole milk. Hell yeah. Interesting,
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I'm gonna take it down a percentage, frisky. I think
the most creative Valentine's Day gift I ever bought for
her Majesty was a hanging plant. Okay that I crushed
it that year because everyone was like before that, I
was like flowers, which were appreciated, but I was like no,
Like I was like, let our love grow like this
hang plant still have it to this day. Chocolate bears,
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Isn't that a thing? No? Did I just make that up?
Talcolate covered gummy bears or not? That website? You damn
nailed me. I've been zinged and I love it to
quote uh speaking of us being fucked the gig economy.
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So before everything became an app we used to do
things like ask a friend to help us with moving,
which was annoying, or asking people for a ride to
the airport, especially annoying in l A. But that was
like a thing you did. You did favors for people, Yeah, easily,
and then they would do favors back to you, and
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then you would develop something. They do favors back to you,
back to you, favor at you, do a favor on me, Yeah,
do do me a favor, do favors at me, do
a favor on the small on my back. About it's changed.
I remember being like, yo, to give me a ride,
I'll smoke you out, you know what I mean. Here,
I'll give you something, help you move, I'll smoke you out. Uh,
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take care of my child, I'll smoke about it. But yeah,
like now if you know, like you know, calves and
nanny's and other things like that have existed, but they
used to be only accessible to a certain class. And
now like if you have any amount of disposable income,
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there's a way to like, whether it's an uber or
a task Grabbit people can start solving problems just by
sort of just throwing money at it. And it makes
sense too because on some level, like you would never
expect these people to just do a favor for a
stranger for free, so there is some kind of monetary exchange.
But now, what would Franz Drescher's star rating be if
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she was like a gig econo nanny? Was she a
good nanny? She was right, and I feel like she
was really there for them. She was. I mean, she
was definitely unorthodox, but I think the love was there absolutely. Um.
But there's like there's a professor on culture and media
who's like writing writing a book that's called uber Worked
and Underpaid How workers are disrupting the digital economy. It says,
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what used to be friends among favors now has a
price tag to pick up from the airport, hauling closed
to laundry, or helping to pay the apartment. And we
are now witnessing a financialization of activities that used to
be an expression of social capital, which is interesting because yeah,
like there was this helps create community, right you know,
like you knew like oh hell yeah, like that's my friend,
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let me help you, I know, there will be reciprocity
at some point, but now that we're able to just
sort of be like, I don't want to inconvenience them.
On some level, these things do help because there are
people who will take advantage of your kindness, and you
can set boundaries and be like, look, I can't do
it because you're trying to take advantage of my kindness
call this person. But at the same time, you do
lose that bit of feeling of connection where like there
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is sort of community to a certain extent. Yeah, I think,
I mean, we know our neighbor is less than we
used to, which I think is a thing that's been
happening for a while now but is probably at its peak.
So we're doing this live show that is about like
partially about the tech bubble bursting and like the thing
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that seems to be changed. Like there were these companies
like pets dot Com that we're essentially Amazon for pet products,
and now Amazon is the most successful company ever Amazon.
It's Amazon for Amazon, Amazon for pet products and everything else.
And the innovation is they've figured out that they can
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just like treat people like ship kind of like behind
the scenes, and as long as we don't see it,
they can like just make that into economies of scale
that they can just like turn into all the money
in the world. I think in the nineties, right, it
was harder to get as many people who would go
for this kind of work because there were still a
lot of jobs available to most people. And then as
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the economy began to get more and more depressed, like
like I think Amazon came about at this perfect time
where now you have people who are like, I'll take
I'll take any kind of work because they're the apps.
Like the wage stagnation and things like this is preventing
people from being able to live properly. So yeah, I
think there the thing about the like knowing your neighbors.
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In the mid seventies, there's a study they say in
the mid seventies, only about of Americans said they had
no interactions with their neighbors. Now it's like over a third. Yeah,
like in increasing more because yeah, most people are sort
of just walled off. I don't know, it's different. It's
a lot different. And even now, like I try and
make a point to talk to my neighbors because like
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there's there's something weird about just not knowing somebody. Yeah,
and if like you kind of want to know, like
you live in a community, you know, like where hey,
if you keep an eye out or something, if you
saw some ship like hollyer at me, you're like, oh,
I saw your you know, your package was outside for
two days. I brought that ship in because I don't
know somebody. You know that, Like, there's a there's a
benefit to that, but I think it's it's really easy
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to not do it. And these apps and things I
think almost make like it makes it easier for us
to forget that those are bonds we kind of need
to maintain we've taken for granted. Well, you're also like,
it's a it's a good thing to be more connected
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with your neighbors and stuff. But when you're given the
option to be in another community like on Reddit of
people that you know, it's a more vetted, more filtered, uh,
representation of your likes, You're you're naturally gonna want to
be liked rather talk to these people than these people
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who could have wildly different opinions. That's hard. Yes, that
does say, I mean that's convenience and stuff, and Uber
like you're you're yeah, I mean, Uber is definitely picking convenience.
I think it was Jelani cub was writing about how
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that I mean writing about it. He tweeted that, like
the whole you know, policing how much people tip and
like being like, look at this receipt from this famous
person they like barely tipped, and just how we like
that That whole thing is just companies transferring the fact
that they don't pay their employees enough onto us. Like
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Uber was just like, Okay, now there's a tip button,
and you subsidize their wages, right, you subsidize their wages
because we don't pay them enough. And also there's a
incentive structure where they rate you so like you have
to tip them a lot basically or else you're gonna
get a low rating. But I mean, at the same time,
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it's like a service we didn't used to have. Right.
What happens when you I honestly don't know That's what
happens when you, the writer have a low rating on Uber?
Do do drivers not pick you up? Or do they
play music you wouldn't like? Or like, what is the
you're canceled? I believe just in general that you're doesn't
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have to get like really low though, and then they
put a tweet out and they say, this person is
just canceled. Yeah, everyone, I think it just I think
probably at a certain level, you might not be able
to use the service. Super producer Anna Hosny is saying
that they also team you up with drivers who have
low ratings. Oh that's why. So so if you're you're
a one star guy, you get a one star driver. Yeah. Wow.
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Do you think there's anybody, either driver or a rider
who has one star? Like I think the lowest I've
ever heard of it, like like four six. Yeah, nobody
ever gives like a I don't know. Yeah, it depends.
I mean it takes. I think we've talked about in
past episodes what it takes for you to fully be
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like I'm gonna funk your rating up as a driver,
like this was actually fucked up because most of us know, like,
there is it. This is where I guess the sense
of community does kick in, because you begin to be like,
I don't want to like funk up your money by
being like give you a four star or something like
and I also three star whatever. It's it's really the
decision you're making when you go from five to four?
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Is is it? Like, do I want to steer this
person's life in a different direction so that they can't
make as much money at this right, so that because
they shouldn't be driving people for a living. Like that's
the decision making process that I would have to make
to go from five to four. Four means you're you've failed, epic,
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you failed, and you need to you need to start
thinking about a different career. That's wild, that's right, Yeah,
you should get the funk off. Well that's what. Yeah,
nobody gives low ratings because we're all it's like that
Black Mirror episode with Bryce Dallas Howard. Is that a
wrestler or an actress Bryce Dallas Howard in the ring? No,
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but it's uh yeah where everyone's just like five stars
and five stars and we're all good. Yeah. Uh anyway,
it's like almost giving you like five stars five star
are good? Yeah yeah cool, that's our new social contract, right, um.
And it's where I do see that, like because it's
weird thinking about like you see, Uh, I've had like
seen like three star or two star reviews for restaurants
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on Yelp and been like yeah, but I want Chinese
right now, Like I'll go but if I see a
four star rating on Uber, I'm like three or two
star rated foods. Let's let's move on to the next top. Wow,
So you're just willing to like put actual garbage in
your body? Huh Yeah, give me that papa. Yeah, uh
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that papa. Uh. There's an aw tour in the world
of advertising whose work I didn't realize I was such
a fan of. I didn't realize these two projects were linked.
So there's this guy, Peter Arnell, who was responsible for
the Pepsi campaign the pitch dock to uh from an
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advertiser about the redesign of the Pepsi logo to make
it so that the wavy line does not go down
the middle of the circle, but it's like off to
the side a little bit. I just wanna, I do
wanna look at that? The he is ingenious, you know,
from taking it from the regular to just kind of
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off to the side. Screw my man's printer was weird.
So one of the pages I just want to read,
you guys, the header breathtaking. What is this? This This
is from the dock that they presented. They're as they were, like,
here's why you're paying US twenty million dollars and this
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is why, and we just like tilted your logo to
the side. Uh so. Header of one of the pages,
breathtaking creation of identity colon the Pepsi universe on one
side says universe expansion. Okay, the universe expands exponentially with
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and then they just like throw in a bunch of
like equation shit million miles per hour, and then they
have like a globe thing X equals one light year.
On the right side, the Pepsi orbits and it's the
old logo. It's old logo dimensional dimensionizes exponentially, Pepsi planet,
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old logo, Pepsi galaxy. Like twenty different Pepsi logos orbiting
around one another. I see what's going on here, jack expansion.
We're going now to through a three dimensional plane. Yes,
uh so. On the left side, x equals one light year,
x equals two light years, x equals eight light years,
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and it's just the same picture made bigger and bigger.
But on the right it's Pepsi planet, just the old logo,
Pepsi galaxy, the new logo orbiting around something Pepsi universe,
and it like they made it into an atom that
where all the like quirks and electrons and ship are
the new Pepsi logo. Uh, and it is it's just
(36:35):
taking bullshit. If anyone is actually familiar with astrophysics, maybe
this does make sense. But but I'm just saying maybe
like in where if you're just using the logo to
represent like electron motion or something like that, but what
does that actually But it means fuck alto why that
you change the logo. And also you're having to like
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just make up what the what the original Pepsi logo
looks like on the side, that's that's all made up.
I mean, look, you know how these meetings go, right,
you know, like you get in there, you say something
smart enough and like trippy. They some people be like,
oh my god, it's trippy ship said by people who
don't have the mind for trippy ship. So they are
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just like that's that has the sound of like something smart,
but they don't have the imagination to like hold the
idea of smart and like trippy and like sort of out.
It was like early Jaden Smith interviews when he would
just say some wild tripputy ship, Like you just overheard
some adults say that this whole pitch deck is big
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Jaden Smith energy Like, yes, super nice dude. I'm sure
I think now his intellect is catching up to him
as he gets older. I think he's going to be
our next president astro physicist, physicist president. Uh No, but uh,
I'm sure they were very nice when they presented this
deck because they got millions and millions of dollars too.
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It was like early I think. Um. So that is
from a guy named Peter Arnell. Uh he's also responsible.
Uh well, first of all, Gawker did a profile with
him where they talked about, uh, the fifteen worst bosses
in New York City, and he is apparently up there.
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The guy with the Galaxy brain. Galaxy Brain guy thought, yeah,
I'll just read some some from the from that profile.
Uh he Uh. Once he freaked out in a meeting
because the CD did not work in the CD player,
so he took the CD out and smashed it into
pieces on the conference room table. The I T guy
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who was standing behind him ended up going to the
hospital because the shards from the c D flew into
his eye. Uh. When you go to a meeting in
his office, he makes everyone wait at the door, then
directs each person where to sit by a hierarchy and
whatever mood he's feeling, which that that really resonates with
the Pepsi pitch stock because it's all about like his
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idea of like universal organisam millennial vibes like the as
as the light years expand exponentially, it's like, all right,
what's the Pepsi redesigned considered a failure or is just
like a laughing stock once people got a hold of
this material, just a laughing stock once people got hold
of them, because I think most people like, okay, I'm
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not buying more because you moved the wiggle. Yes, But anyways,
another piece of work that I hadn't realized was his
so Tropicana used to have a very recognizable carton and
it was they were the only like they were the
first to get to fresh squeezed orange juice. Really yeah,
(39:55):
they did it, by it's wild how they did it.
They created these giant vats. They look like big like
things that you would assume like gas is being held
in like natural gas, but it's actually giant vats of
orange juice that have all the oxygen sucked out, like
they can hold your orange juice there for like years
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because it doesn't like oxygen, it doesn't oxidize nothing, nothing
bad happens to it. The only bad thing that happens
to it is it stops to favor. It loses all
its flavor. So what Tropicana had to do was, so
you're still drinking fresh squeezed orange juice or it's three
years old, but it hasn't you know, it hasn't been
(40:38):
touched by oxygen, so it's fun. It just lost all
its flavor. But then they added this thing that is
like a flavoring. Uh, it's like the essence of orange.
It has nothing has nothing to do with the taste.
It's all scent based. So if you can't, if you
can't smell your orange juice from Tropicana, it won't taste
(40:58):
like oranges what like I've had, But if you don't
have your ability to breathe though, that affects your your
tasting abilities. But like I have, like I know people
whose sense of smell doesn't work, like who had like
some damage or so you're saying if you got it
and that that affects your ability it tastes things and
like it's all like all factory is like more uh
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tied to like what you think thinks taste like that?
What about the new factory? That's right? Um So anyways,
Tropicana had the game locked just with this carton that
was an orange with a straw in it. That was
that I remember. I remember trying to drink an orange
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like out of kid. Yes, they like that communicates every
fucking thing you need to know. So this dude comes
in and changes the carton to be a glass of
orange juice. That's it, like just a big glass of
orange juices on the side near wine glass. Yeah, it
looks like a wine glass, so it doesn't even look
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like the orange juice that you were used to. Uh.
And the tropicanal logo going up the side. I remember
being like did they get rid of Tropican orange? Was
like happen the Tropican orange? And then like because he
also fused with a logo. Uh, they lost thirty three
million dollars in sales and immediately had to change the
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design back. So they just went right back. Yeah. I
think they went pretty much back close to being back
to what it used to be, or at least having
like an orange on it rather than like an obscure
an obscure glass of orange juice that could be any
orange like and it could be from Concentral. Yeah. They
just went back. They literally just went back. Give me
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the orange with the straw in it. Yes, stop sucking around. Yes,
um they tried it with that like minimal design. Yeah,
what I got you points at like art Center, right,
you know, I felt like that way was happening though,
with like Unique Low and all these like minimalist type companies,
and it just doesn't work for that, right, We're not
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looking for like beautiful future forward eight x lightyear design
from our orange juice cartons. And also it wasn't even
a good design. I wonder what that deck looked like.
If he was saying the pepsi thing was all about,
you know, atomic subparticles and ship like that, he was
like Nazi the future people will not actually be drinking
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oranges with a straw inserted into it, but they will
be doing Yeah exactly they We will all be drinking
our our orange juice in the form of a mimosa.
So it should be a champagne flute. Yeah, that is
what it evokes, is mimosa. I wonder if the coloring
isn't even good. Yeah, it doesn't look like orange well,
I mean, I don't know if the you know, we
don't know exactly what the colors are going through a screen.
(43:53):
I just want to be fair to him from a
color processing level. But this is a courtesy of Mono
Synth on Twitter, so shout out to them. All. Right, Well,
we're gonna take a quick break and we'll be right back.
(44:15):
And we're back, and it's time for music Corner, where
checking all the hottest sounds coming at you across the airway.
That's spicy music, spicy music radio. What we just do
(44:38):
this for the rest of the show, off the rails. Yeah,
uh so, Taylor Swift is now our rage against the machine.
I mean, you know, she's very She was very a
political up until like maybe a year and a half ago.
A year ago in a studied like very explicitly a political.
(45:00):
People were like, yo, huge, you have a huge conservative
fan base. Probably can you say something? And well through
the election she was like, it's nothing. But it turns
out it was because she just didn't think Hillary was
woken off. No, I have no idea what I mean,
(45:21):
she hasn't. Has she explained that she was like what
was she thinking? I think she was just didn't. I
don't know if she knew, if she felt responsible to
say something like the responsibility of having to say something
or whatever, but or maybe they realized maybe it's better marketing. Yes,
I think that's what it was. It used to be
possible to sit this one out, and it became uh
(45:44):
wildly unprofitable for her to continue to sit it. Well,
she's doing fine in the profit department. Well, but she was.
I think she was. I do think this was a
smart business decision on her part, to like, and probably
a studied and carefully chosen decision. I'm sure in the
in the I mean it to us, it did very well,
(46:08):
but reputation did not do banger did it? Like? I
don't think so. I don't think so. But I think
it's more happened. I don't think it's really about album
sales anymore so much as it's about like endorsement deals,
like oh, your their money is coming from live shows.
That's that's where all these artists make their money. Now,
(46:29):
it's from selling out stadiums. And I think, you know,
I think she actually does believe these things. But yeah,
like at a certain level, it's like your brand is
being managed by so many stakeholders, like you don't know
what to do. And I think now with her new
documentary Miss Americana, she's got this song called only the
Young and it's you know, before things had like a
political tone, but now it's the lyrics are like the
(46:50):
game was rigged, the ref got tricked, the wrong ones
think they're right, you were outnumbered this time. Okay, a
little bit more would be a lot harder criticize, or
would be all it easier to criticize that if we
hadn't just made the exact same metaphor about the refs
being tricked. Yeah, fuck god, are we stealing from I mean,
it's like Simpsons. She's also the new Simpsons, and that
(47:11):
every joke you try to make Taylor Swifts already made. Right. Yeah.
Then she also says like sort of about mass shootings.
You go to class scared, wondering where the best hiding
spot would be, and the big bad man and his
Big Bad clan their hands are stained with red. Huh.
It's all. She's got a history of doing these flip
flops and having it go well for her when remember
(47:35):
when she wasn't on Spotify and like that was a
big deal. People really were upset that her music wasn't
on Spotify, and then when she finally did put it
over there, it was huge. Yeah, when any other band
would go it's like anticipation and then release it. So
if she's like Switzerland on politics, you know, and then
(48:01):
goes hard, one way that's gonna make. I mean, I
think I'm just glad to see people with audiences try
and like let them know. It's like just so you know,
like I'll try and use whatever platform I have to
like actually have some kind of a message that isn't
just like is Trump that bad? You know what I mean?
Because they're people are could easily be doing that or
(48:22):
saying nothing without realizing how much their fans like care
about what they think or believe. And if that can
help some people, then you know fine, so be it. Personally,
when I go on stage doing comedy my life's passion,
I I like to say, you heard that you heard
of this Trump guy? Yeah, like those guys, those guys
(48:45):
are straight up fist. I try to just pepper that
in the be like, wow, okay, he took a side
and I appreciate that. Yeah, just off top, I think
Trumps a bozo Okay, all right, now we'll get into
the calm and that hair. Hello, do you ever call
the cheetoh? Because that is funny, because because they're right,
(49:06):
I'd like to call him an orange oh ship. Oranges
are orange? Put up blood orange? Or conflict? All Right,
that's gonna do it for this week's weekly Zeitgeist. Please
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