May 17, 2020 • 48 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of the
Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from
this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment laugh stravaganza.
Uh yeah, So, without further ado, here is the Weekly Zeitgeist. Well, guys,
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it's a very special episode because we've got another one
of the very faces on Mount Zepmore. She is the
skim Goddess. She is lazy. Move what is the guy?
Would have you been listening to a lot of podcast
or something? Yeah? The podcast? Yeah that's actually very good, lazy.
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How are you doing in quarantine? I mean as good
as anybody can be doing. I have a routine now
every day, when the sun goes down or gets cooler,
I go out and I take a walk. Um, sometimes
I get on the phone with friends. Yesterday I was
on the phone with a girlfriend on my AirPods and
this homeless man started. He just started yelling. He's like,
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you fucking black bitch, you bitch, you bitch. He's like
screaming at me, right and I'm walking past. Why was
I just like walking past like la la la. My
friends like, oh my god, who's screaming at you? I
was like oh girl, I live in Hollywood. You know,
how would be cross the street? It was like, can
you crossed the street? Why are you not afraid? I
was like, yeah, you know, it's just nice to hear
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somebody talking to you and feels nice. He knew I
was black, you know. He was saying in the past episode,
how often everyone just says hi now, Like it's almost
like you live in fucking Huville or some ship. Good day,
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good day, have a good evening. I'm okay, I missed,
I miss being yelled at in the city. That sounds nice.
Just make a podcast like that, like an a SMR
experience called getting yelled at in the city for New York.
Fucking way. Yeah, your blue shirt? Your blue shirt, blue shirt? Uh?
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What is? What's something you think is overrated? Andy? This
takes a little bit of explaining, but the concept of
genius in the twenty one century, and I'm mostly tread carefully, sir,
some of us, yes, except okay, so accepting let's let's
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pretend that I'm not talking about mensa, all right, And
what I am talking about is, uh, someone like Elon Musk,
who is what I will say, is a dumb dipshit
who got lucky. But this is the thing to be
born into a ruby mine emerald. I looked it up,
so I was born in a ruby. I wanted to
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mind by ps and cues because I didn't want anyone
to come for me on this one, because I know,
like if you if you criticize Elon Musk, a bunch
of people that will never have any money and have
no connection, have no connection, that's what his fans are called.
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They are No, I just made it. I love it,
bro fighting. I'm just thinking of that movie Tusky Airmen
with Laurence Fishburne is less seen at the fucking cockpit anyway.
I'm sorry, So, but tell me about the twenty Are
you talking about more of like a classical like in
the antiquities era idea of what genius was and that
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people had a genius versus people being a genius. No,
just the twenty like in the twentieth century. Okay, well,
think of the people that like are called genius now
it's uh dummies like Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Jeff Bezos.
These are people who like just invested money like they
were wealthy, like Elon Musk had had family wealth from
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an emerald mine. All right. Uh, he dropped out of
physics PhD program after two days and all he's done
is invest his money. I didn't I was about to say, well,
but I think he's just invested his money and got lucky.
And then he has backdated his ego, right, and he says, well,
because I'm rich, I must be a genius. And then
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everyone like agrees that, oh these people, but they must
be geniuses because they're wealthy as opposed to like they've
exploited all their labor, or they had family wealth in
the first place, or they got lucky. But like I
was thinking about, like that's genius though, that they did
that twenty century. Who do we call Geniuss Einstein, right,
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Neil's bore Um, Picasso, Watson, Crick and Franklin right, Uh,
James Joyce, like people who either scientific like change the
scientific paradigm, changed the literary artistic paradigm in some way.
Those were geniuses, um, And now it's like a dude
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who buys a ski do factory, And I feel like
that it's just all about like how effectively you managed
to mythologize yourself. Because I'm sure that there are like
some people that we have like historically labeled as geniuses
who aren't. Like there's like I feel like Edison is
a really good example of that, where like more than
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a basic snuff test reveals that he was like in
many ways a total fraud. Uh what was he, Jamie?
He's just like these ship as. Yeah. Right, So it's
just like if you're able to, if you're able to
afford to effectively mythologize yourself, you'll probably get away with it.
Edison is the on Musk of the twentieth century. Yeah,
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I was just thinking of No, just like the way
we use the term genius as compared to antiquity. When
like that concept of genius emerged is that people had
a genius in which it was something external that would
visit them to inspire this like great work out of
these people. And over time we began to sort of
coop that with our egos and narcissism and begin that
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wording became someone was a genius, that person is a
genius rather than has a genius. And I think it's
interesting just to even think about how you might create
things because people you look at somebody would be like
if you're music, like, oh I love you know, fucking
Johnny Greenwood he's a genius or whatever, like what does
he do? Or but it is Johnny Greenwood thinking that
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he's a genius, or is is it more about inspiration
that you are opening yourself and allowing yourself to create
things and that's where that's where it comes out, rather
than like I think people put this pressure on themselves
be like if I want to be a genius, then
I'm going to do exactly our first. The way we
used to even articulate this concept was that like someone
opens themselves up to some truths that they are able
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to then interpret by how open they are, rather than
like they fucking got it, this guy's got the genius.
Why do you think I took my name off a DreamWorks?
The way i've I've found that term used a lot
is just like it is like a narcissistic thing, but
it also is like I feel like, sometimes used to
remove your like remove accountability from your own behavior and actions,
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like in the case of Elon Musk and in the
case of just like a lot of the mental people
that I was talking to back in the day, it's
just like a situation of like, oh, this person is
behaving erratically, they're they're making bizarre choices, and then it's
just like, oh, well, they're a genius, so you just
don't get what they're doing. It's like, no, they could
conceivably just be being an asshole or or acting weird.
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And then but if you are able to like label
yourself as greater than you're, like, you couldn't possibly understand
why I'm exploiting my workers, You're just like, let's not
forget I mean, right now we have a very stable
genius exactly very similar situation. Yeah. Yeah. I think the
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way that American particular commodifies like and commodifies narcissism and
like makes people think that they are the genius rather
than they are transmitters of a genius is there are
a lot of American authors who just write one great
thing and our herald is as geniuses and then like
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never write anything again because there's like there's something just
like toxic and unnatural and incorrect about that. Whereas I
feel like other countries are just like I'm applying a
craft where I'm you know, a I'm channeling something higher
than myself. Does a sophomore album curse. I wonder if
that's unique to American music, or if we looked at
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is the curse of the sophomore album like globally embraced
as like a law of creativity, you know what I mean?
Because I'm to your point, Jack about this emphasis. You
do one thing, or you come out with this work early,
then the this the expectation of like the subsequent works
just becomes like exponentially higher to the point where like
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you have no way to compare it really, But I'm
but then also there are some objective sophomore efforts where
you're like, yeah, you clearly got a lot of money
and stopped giving a funk. But I'm I wonder culturally
if that's something like we yeah us and are like,
you know, it's not how you burn out. Yeah. I
do feel like it's a tendency that Americans have that
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doesn't really exist as much exceptionalism. Yeah yeah, what is
something that you think is underrated? Kate Um, I'm gonna
talk about a director that I kind of discovered this
year and I'm still working her filmography. But it's funny
to me, during this quarantine time, everybody is talking about
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like comfort food movies and especially Nancy Myers movies, but
one of my big discoveries this year is a director
named Joan Micklin Silver who made some of the best
romantic comedies I've ever seen. Um. I would say the
two best movies to start with her are a movie
called Crossing de Lancey, which is just this really low
key romantic comedy from the eighties with Amy Irving, and
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she somehow makes Peter Regert into like the sexiest man
alive in this movie. Don't ask me how. He plays
a character named the pickle Man and by the end
of the movie you're like, where is my pickle Man?
And she but you know, the flip of that is
she has another film called Chili Scenes of Winter that
is about kind of you know, uh, a hapless twenty
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something who falls in love with a married woman and
things do not go well. Uh. And that's with John
Hurd and Mary Beth Hurt and it is from the seventies.
But she's really awesome. She made movies all throughout the
eighties and nineties. Uh, some stuff that you know, on
its face looks like horn dog comedies like lover Boy
with Patrick Dempsey, and then you watch it and you're like, oh,
this is a movie about how women's sexual desires are
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not prioritized and how their emotional lives are not shown
on screen. So she's really dope. She's still alive. If
you can seek out any of her movies, highly recommend it.
During quarantine, Um, she's dope. Wow, Love Her Boy. I
didn't realize Lover Her Boy was that uh deep. I've
like seen various moments of Lover he Boy, but that
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that's the pizza delivery one right where like, yeah, yeah,
I guess it's based on a true story of a
of a guy in Beverly Hills who was like delivering
pizzas to rich ladies and was sleeping with them. But
it starts off in that sort of like eighties raunchy
mode and then like by the middle of the movie,
you have all the women he's visiting giving these like
tearful monologues about how nobody like pays attention to them.
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Then they're just like trapped in these mansions and you're like, Okay,
one movie am I watching? Um, but she's I don't
know her movies all kind of do that. You think
you're getting one thing, and then by the end you're like,
this is very different than I thought. It was going
to be, isn't it, Christie Ally, you think that you
ever had notes are like after these women, I don't know,
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like when they say these long winded things, can Patrick
Dempsey's be like, Hey, so we're gonna funk or what
or something kind of lighten it after that? I don't
know what's going on here. It is funny because in
the movie you have those scenes and then it's like
back to the pizza parlor work amazing. I realized that
he that Patrick Dempsey was in in eighties Round com
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makes me realize I have no idea how old Patrick
Dempsey is, right, I thought he must be very well
well preserved, because I wouldn't have guessed. Yeah, I think
he was like a teenager at that point, like the
point he was a lover boy and not a lover man.
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The one thing I remember that from that is lover man.
It's just about a guy who has sent uh, this
is about guy who fox. The one thing I remember
is that extra anchovies was the order right that they
used to signal that he was because they knew it
was like so gross that nobody else would order that. Anyways,
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A little lover boyfriend. What a time to be alive
the eighties. Fun fact Jack always orders extra anchovies. That
is where my order comes from. Ye, just hoping that
maybe this will come back and fash him. What is
a myth with something people think is true that you
know to be false or vice versa um. Maybe controversial,
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but I think Napoleon's personal life is way more interesting
than his military career or dictatorship. His family dramas just
over the top Kardashian level type ship and give us
some hits. Well, my favorite is his love letters to Josephine,
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Like he explicitly states he can't wait to frolic through
her little black forest. So that yeah, yeah, so there's that.
I mean pubes hit, Yeah, her pubes Napoleon went down.
He was a generous lover. I thought he was tigned
with the drink at Coffee Bean. They did that after
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I thought about the ham button. Wasn't he really into
uh like body odor? He was? He was very pheromone sensitive. Yeah,
I guess he didn't shower very much. Like. He had
very slick and oily hair, almost in cell level when
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he met Josephine because she was actually part of uh,
the upper middle class and almost died in the Revolution
but missed the guillotine by a couple of days or something.
So he hooked onto her for her class status, but
he hadn't had a partner before her, and like totally
was into it, totally was in love with her. Then
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had a messy breakup so he could date I want
to say, a Princess of Austria. And then after that,
that's when his family comes in and they want titles,
they want land. They were bickering over who has the
better status, and it's just a mess. And I I've
come down a lot of rabbit holes. So the military
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Waterloo whatever, Rosetta Stone fine, but personal life he muff
dives dive. King Napoleon he did go down, So yeah,
I feel like his that's one of the great unexplored
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like historical docuseries that we we still need the great Napoleon.
Like the only example we have is from Get Shorty, right,
the fake um oh Danny that it was like, don't
get Shorty so much Laterly, I don't even know. I
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don't even know why. I think about Renee Russo a lot,
and not even because Outburt, but just written general had
a Renee Russo she popped into my dreams, like as
a ticket taker somewhere. I was like, okay, you work
at AMC because I was going to a movie and
I think it was get I don't know these choir dreams.
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I had a dream that Johnny Depp was my chiropractor.
I don't know where that came from, but I was
okay with it. I woke up feeling all right, new
day and yeah, and you realized you were wearing one
of his turquoise bracelets, Like how I beat Shock? You're like,
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I like every time you have a dream about a celebrity,
you have to wake up with like a piece of
their clothing on, and then you know it wasn't actually
it really happened. You were just wearing one of shocks shoes.
Aaron Carter really beat Shack in the game. He couldn't
have gotten that jersey otherwise you wake up sleeping inside
checks shoe. Alright, Kim, guys, everyone, let's take a quick
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break and we'll be right back, and we're back on
the subject of why we shouldn't want to go back
to driving. Uh, let's talk about the roads and who
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is out there on them. This is a great This
is a great news. Yeah, yeah, why do you not
drive much? I don't have a driver's license. I've never
passed the test. Oh well, then this is great news.
This is a big day. I listen, Jack, I know
you've seen me drive, but that doesn't mean that I
had an okay riding dirty. That's back when I had
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my O one Corolla. Pull up my O one Corolla
and not have a license. It was kind of like
it was a fun summer pull up to the scene
when my license missing. So the Georgia Department of Driver
Services or their d m v uh. You know, a
lot of bureaucratic institutions have just like tremendous backlogs of
like applications and paperwork when legal cases, liquor licenses, whatever.
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It's just because it's not moving right now and no
one's out there. But so to deal with their backlog
of people. Yeah, thanks to the Green New Deal, there's
a lot of teenagers that had their permits and they're like, yo,
I'm trying to get this fucking license. I want to
take my driver's test. Let me get in there. On Wednesday.
Last Wednesday, the state's Department of Drivers Services said that
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they had upgraded nineteen thousand, four hundred eighty three teen
permits to full on licenses without a test, without a test,
They just waived the test. I love it, and I
think goes from like needing your parents in the seat
next to you, like slamming their foot on an imaginary
break because they're terrified and think you're driving too fast,
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to just being able to drive on your own whatever
you want. You know what, Some people don't test. Well, okay,
those driving tests are culturally biased. Here's the thing. Sometimes
when someone says don't hit the curb, I hear something
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a little different. And I never passed the test that
I don't know. This is a great idea, y'all. I
slipped through the cracks, right, Really, I scared my license.
I've never took a driver's test. I've been drinking taking
a driver's test. No, I know you. I know you
do have a license. I know, and I drive terribly. Okay, Well, hey,
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we don't have to make it hot for you on
that terribly every day I get i'd be like, thank
the Lord we made it again, because it'd be touch
and go on the road for me. But no, I
went to driver's edge school, but my sister went to
drivers at school and she did have to take a
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driver's license test. At the end of Drivers at School,
my driver's at teacher was like, you really need to
practice more, and then I got my license. O God.
So I sympathized with these nineteen thousand kids. I hope
that they'll be all right. They're mostly do a rural driving,
and I have like such I have like such a
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boom hers like college debt being canceled. Take on this.
I'm like, hell no, I had to fail that ship
fucking twice. I had to go to like two spooky
d m v s that were not near my house
because those are like the d m v s and
I that's that was what wasdale. I'm never gonna pass.
Like did you give these ships out parallel park till
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I moved to l A. I was like, yeah, yeah, okay,
I don't even hit people's cars anymore. Major. I guess
the licensing process is not the dragnet that we're we're
making it out to be because I also basically failed,
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but because the woman giving me the test was my teammates,
and I just got through. You got nepotism. I got nepotism.
Like that, Like that she gave me an eight. She
gave me the worst score you could possibly give somebody
without failing them. And like she she would have failed
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me if she didn't feel bad for me. I like
that the personality angle you get in there, sadness, cute,
you're probably working some little cuteness to Like I was
crying the whole time I was trying to get out
of a ticket. Very pathetic. Really turned up the pathetic.
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Oh man, I remember when I failed mine. I punched
the dashboard of the car and my dad almost fucking
his body slamming, and the he's like he's like, he's
like he's like, that's your fault, Like basically like it's
that that teacher and I hit the think I mean,
I'm sucking seventeen or eighteen or whatever. Wild now uh
and yeah, anyway, I wasn't in a good place. Yes,
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you have a lot of stress around the driver's test.
My blood pressures going up. My my watch is telling
me to take a few breaths breathes now. Yeah, anyways,
take a d drive a couple of clicks. More conservative
if you live in the Georgia area, guys, be safe
out there. What is a myth, Catherine, what what's something
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people think it's true you know, to be false or
vice versa. So the idea of a patient zero, specifically
as it relates to the HIV epidemic, the COVID bad
isn't real. Probably not one of the reasons. So there's
a couple of reasons why patient zero is a false premise.
In one of them, I think it's so interesting and
(23:31):
so basic. It's all about linguistics. The doctor who wrote
up the report about patient zero, he actually didn't write zero.
He wrote oh, as in, this is our patient who
was outside of California because they were studying people in California,
but it got misinterpreted as patient zero, which obviously is
a way cooler like branding. Right it sounds good, Yeah,
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disease within themselves? Yeah, yeah, I will make it. Because
the myth is about like a flight attendant, right, yeah, exactly,
a guy who he was a flight attendant and French
something French Canadian hum Gaiton Douga I think was his name,
And the idea was that he was just an absolute
sex maniac, going from city to city on the airplanes
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and fucking everybody, and that he knew he was sick,
but he didn't care. He just had to bang constantly.
So none of that was really true. It's just a
good story in the sense of like, all it's going
to get all the conservatives upset, but it's yeah. And
one of the reasons why he was actually incredibly helpful
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was studying HIV. It's actually really heartbreaking that he was
so demonized because the reason he was so helpful was
because he actually remembered the names of most of the
people he had sex with, so they were able to
trace from him, whereas all the other early patients were like,
I don't know, I don't know who any of these
people were. So he was like sweet enough to catch
their names, and then he got in trouble for it essentially,
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so is there he was just noteworthy because he was
so helpful to researchers, and like there was so much
written up on him because he was able to help
do like contact tracing. Yeah, that's exactly what it was.
And then this book was published a few years after
he died, called and the Band Played On, which is
pretty famous I think a documentary version, and the person
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writing it like laid all of the blame for HIV
essentially on him, And then a few years after that,
the editor of the book publicly apologized, saying that he
let the author do that on purpose because he knew
it would drum up book sales and he knew that
it wasn't true. Oh damn yeah, not worth it, No,
not at all. It's crazy. So that's another thing I think,
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like in in these times that looking for a patient zero,
and I see in the media they'll still do that,
like patient zero zero or like patient zero of this
particular outbreak in Chicago. It's like, I don't know, I
don't know we should be doing that. I don't know
what benefit there is. I mean maybe just for the
purposes of scientific data gathering, as like some way to
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just identify, like I think this is where we need
to look first, but like for the meeting, that concept
of it, I think is what you're like talking about.
It is like how we need like who do we blame? Funk?
Was it who ate? Some weird ship? What the like?
That's I think what that idea of a patient zero
helps people do is just be like, funk that person.
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It just builds up their anger. Also, speaking of which
I want to say that we keep saying wet market
in America, I think because it sounds gross, so we
get to think that it's gross. It's a farmer's market.
If we just called it a farmer's market, people would
have a clearer idea of what they were talking about,
and maybe a less racist one. I don't know, maybe
what why do they call? What? Where did that designation
of wet market? Like? What do you have to be
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to be have a wet market? I think it's the
things that they sell there. If I'm remembering correctly, that
a wet market has meat and the dry market is
like only um like grains and stuff like that. It's
a fresh meat, ish produce, imperishable goods. Yeah, the fucking
farmer's market. There's not a fish not a fishmonger there.
There's not a meat person there, there's not the every
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person selling produce. Really interesting, Yeah, Yeah, we have to
move on to some important news because Miles, you've had
a had a spiritual shift on your relationship to uh
guy Fiery. Yeah, I mean Guy Fiery. The fear of sons,
as I call it, has opened my eyes to some
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prejudices that I was holding against this man um you know,
like the last I feel like eighteen months, I feel
like the Fiery Sons has been like in full effect,
where every story that comes out is like, what, guy
Fear is not a douche bag. I truly think that
Shane Taurus shout out Shane like started the national waking up,
(27:53):
the global waking up to the fact that guy Fearing
never did anything to hurt us. Yeah, and like, I'm like, wait,
hold on, this dude is like got like he's like
a good dad and husband. I'm like what, I'm like,
what he officiated a mass same sex marriage for over
a hundred and one same sex couples in honor of
his sister who is lesbian that passed away. I'm like, so,
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I'm like okay. And then the reason I bring this
up now is that, like we found out that there
was this National Restaurant Association Education Foundation fund that was
being set up for restaurant employee relief because the food
industry has been just absolutely fucked by this whole shutdown.
It's like it's horrific um to the point where most
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rust like I don't know what to do. I don't
know how we reopened. I guess we'll just like just
go to the wheels come off at this point and
then we'll go from there. But this fund was meant to,
you know, help employees receive like a one time five
dollar check when you apply to use for whatever you need,
your bills, your rent or whatever. Turns out Guy Fieri
was on his grizzy because he was banging those phones
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and reaching out to like corporate donors. He knew he
this dude raised over twenty million dollars for this fund,
like in a matter of a couple of weeks for it,
and that means that's like when they break that down,
that's like forty people who can get this grant because
of him. And I'm like, yes, I I abandoned like
guy Fiery sucks maybe a year ago. But I'm like,
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but now, like with this one, I've I've had to
take another moment, is to just examine what my fiery
hate was. Was it that? Like it's funny because I'm
a huge Triple D fan. I love that show. I
think it's great. I love food. There's not yeah, and
creates exactly like the amount of business it's created for
these small these small restaurants is fantastic. Like there's apps
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even dedicated to be like, am I near a thing?
Guy Fiery has been to um? And now when you
but then I'm just sort of like, what the funk
is it? I'm like, was it? It was easy to
talk ship because he just looked like a dudel was
spiked tips and ship and I was just like a funk,
that funk is weird? Flame button ups. I was like
I had to take a moment and just say like,
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it was Guy Fiery merely there for me to feel
cool comparatively, and and not only now I waking up
to my own shallowness as to what my relationship with
guy Fiery actually is. I don't know. Yeah, that was
beautiful though that I love this process Like it was
just weird. I'm like, why the fund do I like?
Honestly like I like everything he does, aside from me
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being like, okay, I wouldn't dress like that. There. Yeah,
there's something to be said for like it's easy to
hate someone doing something very goofy, very confidently. I think
that it's it's very easy to pile on and then yeah,
and but it's like if you look at like, well,
what is that person actually doing? Like what are they
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doing there? Promoting a local business while looking goofy and
being confident. Then it's just I feel like it's almost
one of those like I don't know, like you're you're
sort of cringe on their behalf because they're not going
to cringe for themselves. But he's fine himself. He seems
to like himself, and I think that's no exactly like
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insecure people don't like to see secure people do their
ship because deep down you're like, why you why do
you have that confidence to look like that? But really,
I'm like, it's necessarily like I think I'm speaking for myself,
I'm speaking for himself. I'm dismansing my own insecurities visa
via my relationship with Guy Fiery. I think the way
he entered the kind of collective consciousness is as like
(31:36):
it's like Larry if Larry the Cable Guy was a
Mad TV character Guy Fiery was played by That was
just a different character played by that same like Mad
TV performer. I feel like they were like it was
just that same like vibe. So yeah, I just feel
like he got a bad break from like how he
(31:58):
came package to two people. But yeah, I mean I agree,
like judging people by their by their hair is probably
not fair. Um probably well. Also, I think also I
had a kind of chip on my shoulder because I
didn't like the name text was sabis. I was like,
fuck that, you don't know shit about anything, bro, just
(32:20):
keeping moving with the fun restaurant. And then and then
there's that New York Times review of his restaurant in
Times Square, and I was like, Oh, this guy sucks.
But it was like from this snarky perspective of like
food writers who just want to take a dump on
I'm like, yeah, the food sucks or whatever, but like
in my mind now I'm like leave. So I actually
have a different take on that article because that review
(32:43):
of Guy Fiery's restaurant in New York Times is very famous.
I thought it was very funny, like it was written
in a very funny manne. But I think people misunderstand
what the writer was trying to do because they were
saying that the writer was being a snob for caring
that the food wasn't good at that restaurant. But I
think what the writer was saying was like, people are
(33:04):
going to come on a special trip to New York
and they're going to go on a special trip dinner
to this restaurant and the food is not good and
you're charging forty tree and you shouldn't do that. And
I think that was like a different point, but every
but the way there were way Yeah. I think there
were some descriptions of the food though that I was like, oh, okay,
I mean, look, I enjoyed this, right, I mean there's
(33:27):
no doubt, don't get me wrong, But I'm just you know, again,
all this to say, I'm I'm doing all this introspection now,
uh to to you know, this is what I'm this
is the work I'm doing in choir. If I come
out of here loving Guy Fieri, then I feel like
I've done my part. You've grown person. Did you know
that he also fed firefighters and people who lost their house? Yeah,
(33:48):
he's just a fucking That's what I'm saying. Like, it's weird.
How did we just sort of reached this like threshold
where it was no longer? I don't know. I think
societally we all just begin to be like, yeah, we're
not whatever. It's Guy Fieri Like, maybe we've all grown.
I don't know. I will say also that I went
to a very fancy food event in Las Vegas at
(34:08):
Caesar's Palace in the pool area, and there's like multiple
pools there, and at all the pools it was a
bunch of dressed up people like quietly drinking cocktails. But
then when you went to Guy Fieri's pool area, that
was a party. They had like a Guns and Roses
cover band and like airbrush artists doing work and people
were in the pool like it wasn't much fun. Scene
(34:33):
is like scoffing from his side exactly. Yes, I pretty accurate.
I grew up in a very pro fiery family where
it was t. G. I Frids that carried his deal.
Because I remember we like my mom was very enthusiastic
about Fieri's output and so and she also I'm kind
of every time I hear his name, I'm wondering where
she picked this up. But she had this thing where
(34:55):
she would be like, it's not Fiery, it's Fierti. You
have to pronounce that the Italian way. You very into him.
And so we went we went to like t G.
I fried As, and my mom was like, I would
like Guy Fiertti's mozzarellistics, Like he's fun. He's like he's
fun and and The best part is that guy Fiery
(35:17):
Fiery Fiertti depending on the pronunciation you preferred, doesn't give
a fuck what we think of him, and that is
part of why he is himself. He doesn't he someone
who like you. Just if you're Guy Fieri, you can't
give a funk what people think of you, or you
can't be yourself in that way. I think also understanding
(35:40):
of what Diners, drive Ins and Dives was doing, because
I know when it started, I think I was in
my early twenties and I was like, why does he
like everything? How can he be this enthusiastic about all food? Yeah,
but now, like I'm smarter and also smarter people than
we have explained it to me. It was totally just
to keep these businesses going. That's whatever. Yeah, I mean
(36:01):
if you if you go to John taffa route where
you travel the country verbally abusing small business owners, that's like,
it's just it's it's just as fun to watch. But
you're like, this is a less noble endeavor. I mean,
I hope this is what what that article by Man
(36:22):
was talking about. How like another way that pandemics influenced
culture is by uh, you know that there was like
a peasant revolt after the after the Black Plague. And
I'm hoping that we see and maybe this is like
emerging class solidarity where like we used to identify, like
(36:42):
we used to be stratified by like well, I'm a
New York Times reader and looking down on like Guy Fierti,
And now it's more like we are we are, We're
all Guy Fiertia. Guy Fox masks, Guy Fierti masks. Yeah, dude,
Oh my god, that's there here the macconnaissance. He just
(37:14):
like got a Lincoln sponsorship. Whereas guys doing doing raising
million dollars. Uh, alright, guys, let's take a quick break
and we'll be right back and we're back. Well, speaking
(37:37):
of dreams, let's talk about Robert Pattinson. You guys, Jamie,
you read the article. I read the article. Uh this
so this is uh. I know that like celebrities are canceled,
but but they're not for real and so so Robert
Pattinson has a storied history of giving wild as interviews
(37:59):
because he doesn't like doing interviews and he's he's a
loose cannon. And I think he's really bored right now.
So I guess I will I'll before we get into
the interview he just gave to g Q, which was bananas. Um,
I'll start by prefacing my previous favorite Robert Pattinson interview stunt,
(38:20):
which was back in eleven. He was promoting a movie
called Water for Elephants. It had something to do with
the circus, uh, and he went on The Today Show
with Matt Lower and Matt Lower is asking you know,
bullshit softball morning show questions. He's like, oh, did you
ever want to join the circus when you were a kid,
(38:40):
And Robert Pattinson comes out and says, no, the first
time I went to see the circus, somebody died, one
of the clowns died. And then and then he goes
on to say the clowns little car exploded, the joke
car explode, and he just like this interview ages very
(39:03):
well because it's also fucking Matt Lower, and he just
like silenced as Matt Lower, and Matt Lower was like,
oh the worst. I mean, obviously for the reasons that
we've learned, but also just the yeah, I guess it's
just like as we don't also, but just he was, Yeah,
(39:23):
he like his personality and his presence as a media
like entity. Like I feel like just stopped making just
fell off a cliff of making sense like ten years ago,
and now it's like looking back is like, why are
we letting this smug asshole be like professionally smug and
(39:46):
professionally an asshole. Anyways, I love Robert Pattinson ever since
I saw a good time. Oh he's yeah, he's he's
like a good fun like he gets away with ship
that It almost makes me because like male actors can
get away with anything and just be called a genius.
But that's not Robert Pattinson's fault. That's the culture's fault.
(40:07):
So anyways, Robert Pattinson comes out like a couple of
years later and admits that the whole clown thing was
a lie. He's like, I made the whole thing up.
Of course it's coming back to haunt me. It was
really early in the morning. Someone asked me what my
experience with the circus was, and I was like, I
have nothing interesting to say. I don't know why I
said that. So he just lied to Matt Lowerd And
(40:28):
so in this GQ interview, Robert Pattinson has been plus
quarantine equals it's going to be a good interview, And
in the middle of the interview, he brings up that
he has this business idea. Uh so, he says, is
that rest is the interview so far up until this
point seemingly a normal interview texture pat interview. It's it has,
(40:56):
but it's like generally pretty normal. He's talking about like
the Christopher Nolan movie he's going to be and he's
talking about like being quarantined in the middle of production
for Batman. Like he says some funny things, but it's
like he's generally going with it. But then I guess
this is like the one day, one day, like three
days into this like multiple day interview process. He says, uh,
(41:19):
this is his business idea. What if pasta really had
the same kind of fast food credentials as burgers and pizza.
I was trying to figure out how to capitalize in
this area of the market, and I was trying to think,
how do you make a pasta which you can hold
in your hand? And then he goes on to say
that he has a prototype for it, and he made
(41:40):
the prototype with a panini press, and then he set
up in a meeting with I don't know if I'm
saying this correctly. Lilia Massamini, who co founded Sugarfish, like
like Robert Pattinson called them up and was like, I
have an idea for pasta you can hold in your hand,
and like Massamini confirmed this. They had a whole meeting
(42:00):
about it. It must have been he was like, it's true.
I was not interested. Uh so this isn't a clown
car vibe. This is a long bit that he's doing.
It's fucking incredible, Like it's really impressive. So he so
he goes on to describe the product. He says that
(42:21):
it's called Piccolini Cuskin. No, it's called it's called Little
Pillow Piccolini Cusino. Um, he's my little pillow guy. Yeah.
So he's like, okay, is Piccolini Cuskino. I'll pitch it
to you in this g Q interview and maybe I'll
(42:41):
get an investor. So he's like, okay, I've got a prototype.
They're like on FaceTime. He takes out a huge box
of corn flakes. Um, and he's like, oh, I couldn't
find bread crumbs at the store. I'll get corn flakes.
It's the same ship. He takes out one. He takes
out one gigantic novelty lighter to Flambay. He takes out
(43:05):
nine packs of pre sliced cheese and he's like, and
then you need sauce. And the writer is like, what
kind of sauce. He's like, any kind of sauce. Pattinson
puts on latex gloves, put takes out sugar and aluminum foil,
builds the little Piccolini cuscino and then he says, okay,
now you have to microwave the pasta. He accidentally lights
(43:29):
one of his gloves on fire and he's now so
now he's hurt. He has this giant like phony letter.
He lights his hand on fire. He's like, oh. Then
he goes back and then he burns the uh letters
P and C into the top of a Hamburger bun
(43:49):
for Piccolini cusin no Uh. Then he puts the entire thing,
included aluminum foil into the microwave at is okay, we're
gonna heat it up, and he explode the microwave and
there's like a lightning bolt that comes out of the
microwave and he like takes cover all on face time
(44:11):
and and then the microwave break. This sounds very similar
to me drunk trying to do a pizza rolls. Yeah,
and then he just goes back to the phone and
he's like, yeah, I think I have to leave that alone.
But that is a Piccolini cosino and that's like what
a fucking ender, And that is how you did he
(44:35):
just try it on the fly because you learn from
the aluminum mistake once, like he knew, he knew, I
saw the pictures. I don't know. Maybe he's until Pattinson's
the new fucking Jhon ham who's like guy who's comedians
(44:57):
no offense, but he's more talented than John Hamm and no.
But I mean like he clearly has a knack for
like he likes comedy, you know what I mean, Like
he has a sense of humor. He's a little cheeky
based on the lour ship and even this like microwave
aluminum foil bit. But I wonder if like he'd ever
truly be like you know, like they're a little more comedy.
(45:17):
You know. I think it wants to be like Joaquin Phoenix,
Like I think he wants to be a guy that
can do anything and is known for being eccentric guy.
So this is this is basically manufactured. So this is
shitty manufactured eccentricity. I don't know. I I kind of
he's been doing it long enough that I believe that
(45:38):
he's a weird guy. He did Twilight, and that's weird enough.
He did Twilight, and he was also like, if you
watch his old press interviews from Twilight, he's actively making
fun of the experience of being like there was never
a moment in his career where he was deeply sincere.
And then he's like, he's a goof, He's a weird guy.
I don't know. And it is true that like really
(45:58):
only like male actors of a certain type can like
get away with this ship and not be like dismissed
as like annoying or difficult. But I just happened to
like how he specifically does it. All right, Yeah, Piccolini Cuskino, baby,
I'd wait to see more from this comedian invest now.
(46:19):
It does really kim to your point. Sound sound a
lot like something I like my behavior when I was drunk,
And I do wonder if we'll find out that he
was just a fun drunk for most of his career
adult in twenty years, He's like, looking back, I was
(46:41):
sad at six a time. Yeah, all right, that's gonna
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(47:05):
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(00:25):
it's a very special episode because we've got another one
of the very faces on Mount Zepmore. She is the
skim Goddess. She is lazy. Move what is the guy?
Would have you been listening to a lot of podcast
or something? Yeah? The podcast? Yeah that's actually very good, lazy.
(00:51):
How are you doing in quarantine? I mean as good
as anybody can be doing. I have a routine now
every day, when the sun goes down or gets cooler,
I go out and I take a walk. Um, sometimes
I get on the phone with friends. Yesterday I was
on the phone with a girlfriend on my AirPods and
this homeless man started. He just started yelling. He's like,
(01:12):
you fucking black bitch, you bitch, you bitch. He's like
screaming at me, right and I'm walking past. Why was
I just like walking past like la la la. My
friends like, oh my god, who's screaming at you? I
was like oh girl, I live in Hollywood. You know,
how would be cross the street? It was like, can
you crossed the street? Why are you not afraid? I
was like, yeah, you know, it's just nice to hear
(01:35):
somebody talking to you and feels nice. He knew I
was black, you know. He was saying in the past episode,
how often everyone just says hi now, Like it's almost
like you live in fucking Huville or some ship. Good day,
(01:58):
good day, have a good evening. I'm okay, I missed,
I miss being yelled at in the city. That sounds nice.
Just make a podcast like that, like an a SMR
experience called getting yelled at in the city for New York.
Fucking way. Yeah, your blue shirt? Your blue shirt, blue shirt? Uh?
(02:27):
What is? What's something you think is overrated? Andy? This
takes a little bit of explaining, but the concept of
genius in the twenty one century, and I'm mostly tread carefully, sir,
some of us, yes, except okay, so accepting let's let's
(02:47):
pretend that I'm not talking about mensa, all right, And
what I am talking about is, uh, someone like Elon Musk,
who is what I will say, is a dumb dipshit
who got lucky. But this is the thing to be
born into a ruby mine emerald. I looked it up,
so I was born in a ruby. I wanted to
(03:11):
mind by ps and cues because I didn't want anyone
to come for me on this one, because I know,
like if you if you criticize Elon Musk, a bunch
of people that will never have any money and have
no connection, have no connection, that's what his fans are called.
(03:31):
They are No, I just made it. I love it,
bro fighting. I'm just thinking of that movie Tusky Airmen
with Laurence Fishburne is less seen at the fucking cockpit anyway.
I'm sorry, So, but tell me about the twenty Are
you talking about more of like a classical like in
the antiquities era idea of what genius was and that
(03:54):
people had a genius versus people being a genius. No,
just the twenty like in the twentieth century. Okay, well,
think of the people that like are called genius now
it's uh dummies like Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Jeff Bezos.
These are people who like just invested money like they
were wealthy, like Elon Musk had had family wealth from
(04:16):
an emerald mine. All right. Uh, he dropped out of
physics PhD program after two days and all he's done
is invest his money. I didn't I was about to say, well,
but I think he's just invested his money and got lucky.
And then he has backdated his ego, right, and he says, well,
because I'm rich, I must be a genius. And then
(04:36):
everyone like agrees that, oh these people, but they must
be geniuses because they're wealthy as opposed to like they've
exploited all their labor, or they had family wealth in
the first place, or they got lucky. But like I
was thinking about, like that's genius though, that they did
that twenty century. Who do we call Geniuss Einstein, right,
(04:57):
Neil's bore Um, Picasso, Watson, Crick and Franklin right, Uh,
James Joyce, like people who either scientific like change the
scientific paradigm, changed the literary artistic paradigm in some way.
Those were geniuses, um, And now it's like a dude
(05:21):
who buys a ski do factory, And I feel like
that it's just all about like how effectively you managed
to mythologize yourself. Because I'm sure that there are like
some people that we have like historically labeled as geniuses
who aren't. Like there's like I feel like Edison is
a really good example of that, where like more than
(05:42):
a basic snuff test reveals that he was like in
many ways a total fraud. Uh what was he, Jamie?
He's just like these ship as. Yeah. Right, So it's
just like if you're able to, if you're able to
afford to effectively mythologize yourself, you'll probably get away with it.
Edison is the on Musk of the twentieth century. Yeah,
(06:04):
I was just thinking of No, just like the way
we use the term genius as compared to antiquity. When
like that concept of genius emerged is that people had
a genius in which it was something external that would
visit them to inspire this like great work out of
these people. And over time we began to sort of
coop that with our egos and narcissism and begin that
(06:26):
wording became someone was a genius, that person is a
genius rather than has a genius. And I think it's
interesting just to even think about how you might create
things because people you look at somebody would be like
if you're music, like, oh I love you know, fucking
Johnny Greenwood he's a genius or whatever, like what does
he do? Or but it is Johnny Greenwood thinking that
(06:47):
he's a genius, or is is it more about inspiration
that you are opening yourself and allowing yourself to create
things and that's where that's where it comes out, rather
than like I think people put this pressure on themselves
be like if I want to be a genius, then
I'm going to do exactly our first. The way we
used to even articulate this concept was that like someone
opens themselves up to some truths that they are able
(07:10):
to then interpret by how open they are, rather than
like they fucking got it, this guy's got the genius.
Why do you think I took my name off a DreamWorks?
The way i've I've found that term used a lot
is just like it is like a narcissistic thing, but
it also is like I feel like, sometimes used to
remove your like remove accountability from your own behavior and actions,
(07:34):
like in the case of Elon Musk and in the
case of just like a lot of the mental people
that I was talking to back in the day, it's
just like a situation of like, oh, this person is
behaving erratically, they're they're making bizarre choices, and then it's
just like, oh, well, they're a genius, so you just
don't get what they're doing. It's like, no, they could
conceivably just be being an asshole or or acting weird.
(07:56):
And then but if you are able to like label
yourself as greater than you're, like, you couldn't possibly understand
why I'm exploiting my workers, You're just like, let's not
forget I mean, right now we have a very stable
genius exactly very similar situation. Yeah. Yeah. I think the
(08:16):
way that American particular commodifies like and commodifies narcissism and
like makes people think that they are the genius rather
than they are transmitters of a genius is there are
a lot of American authors who just write one great
thing and our herald is as geniuses and then like
(08:37):
never write anything again because there's like there's something just
like toxic and unnatural and incorrect about that. Whereas I
feel like other countries are just like I'm applying a
craft where I'm you know, a I'm channeling something higher
than myself. Does a sophomore album curse. I wonder if
that's unique to American music, or if we looked at
(09:01):
is the curse of the sophomore album like globally embraced
as like a law of creativity, you know what I mean?
Because I'm to your point, Jack about this emphasis. You
do one thing, or you come out with this work early,
then the this the expectation of like the subsequent works
just becomes like exponentially higher to the point where like
(09:22):
you have no way to compare it really, But I'm
but then also there are some objective sophomore efforts where
you're like, yeah, you clearly got a lot of money
and stopped giving a funk. But I'm I wonder culturally
if that's something like we yeah us and are like,
you know, it's not how you burn out. Yeah. I
do feel like it's a tendency that Americans have that
(09:43):
doesn't really exist as much exceptionalism. Yeah yeah, what is
something that you think is underrated? Kate Um, I'm gonna
talk about a director that I kind of discovered this
year and I'm still working her filmography. But it's funny
to me, during this quarantine time, everybody is talking about
(10:05):
like comfort food movies and especially Nancy Myers movies, but
one of my big discoveries this year is a director
named Joan Micklin Silver who made some of the best
romantic comedies I've ever seen. Um. I would say the
two best movies to start with her are a movie
called Crossing de Lancey, which is just this really low
key romantic comedy from the eighties with Amy Irving, and
(10:26):
she somehow makes Peter Regert into like the sexiest man
alive in this movie. Don't ask me how. He plays
a character named the pickle Man and by the end
of the movie you're like, where is my pickle Man?
And she but you know, the flip of that is
she has another film called Chili Scenes of Winter that
is about kind of you know, uh, a hapless twenty
(10:48):
something who falls in love with a married woman and
things do not go well. Uh. And that's with John
Hurd and Mary Beth Hurt and it is from the seventies.
But she's really awesome. She made movies all throughout the
eighties and nineties. Uh, some stuff that you know, on
its face looks like horn dog comedies like lover Boy
with Patrick Dempsey, and then you watch it and you're like, oh,
this is a movie about how women's sexual desires are
(11:12):
not prioritized and how their emotional lives are not shown
on screen. So she's really dope. She's still alive. If
you can seek out any of her movies, highly recommend it.
During quarantine, Um, she's dope. Wow, Love Her Boy. I
didn't realize Lover Her Boy was that uh deep. I've
like seen various moments of Lover he Boy, but that
(11:36):
that's the pizza delivery one right where like, yeah, yeah,
I guess it's based on a true story of a
of a guy in Beverly Hills who was like delivering
pizzas to rich ladies and was sleeping with them. But
it starts off in that sort of like eighties raunchy
mode and then like by the middle of the movie,
you have all the women he's visiting giving these like
tearful monologues about how nobody like pays attention to them.
(12:00):
Then they're just like trapped in these mansions and you're like, Okay,
one movie am I watching? Um, but she's I don't
know her movies all kind of do that. You think
you're getting one thing, and then by the end you're like,
this is very different than I thought. It was going
to be, isn't it, Christie Ally, you think that you
ever had notes are like after these women, I don't know,
(12:21):
like when they say these long winded things, can Patrick
Dempsey's be like, Hey, so we're gonna funk or what
or something kind of lighten it after that? I don't
know what's going on here. It is funny because in
the movie you have those scenes and then it's like
back to the pizza parlor work amazing. I realized that
he that Patrick Dempsey was in in eighties Round com
(12:44):
makes me realize I have no idea how old Patrick
Dempsey is, right, I thought he must be very well
well preserved, because I wouldn't have guessed. Yeah, I think
he was like a teenager at that point, like the
point he was a lover boy and not a lover man.
(13:06):
The one thing I remember that from that is lover man.
It's just about a guy who has sent uh, this
is about guy who fox. The one thing I remember
is that extra anchovies was the order right that they
used to signal that he was because they knew it
was like so gross that nobody else would order that. Anyways,
(13:30):
A little lover boyfriend. What a time to be alive
the eighties. Fun fact Jack always orders extra anchovies. That
is where my order comes from. Ye, just hoping that
maybe this will come back and fash him. What is
a myth with something people think is true that you
know to be false or vice versa um. Maybe controversial,
(13:54):
but I think Napoleon's personal life is way more interesting
than his military career or dictatorship. His family dramas just
over the top Kardashian level type ship and give us
some hits. Well, my favorite is his love letters to Josephine,
(14:17):
Like he explicitly states he can't wait to frolic through
her little black forest. So that yeah, yeah, so there's that.
I mean pubes hit, Yeah, her pubes Napoleon went down.
He was a generous lover. I thought he was tigned
with the drink at Coffee Bean. They did that after
(14:39):
I thought about the ham button. Wasn't he really into
uh like body odor? He was? He was very pheromone sensitive. Yeah,
I guess he didn't shower very much. Like. He had
very slick and oily hair, almost in cell level when
(15:01):
he met Josephine because she was actually part of uh,
the upper middle class and almost died in the Revolution
but missed the guillotine by a couple of days or something.
So he hooked onto her for her class status, but
he hadn't had a partner before her, and like totally
was into it, totally was in love with her. Then
(15:21):
had a messy breakup so he could date I want
to say, a Princess of Austria. And then after that,
that's when his family comes in and they want titles,
they want land. They were bickering over who has the
better status, and it's just a mess. And I I've
come down a lot of rabbit holes. So the military
(15:42):
Waterloo whatever, Rosetta Stone fine, but personal life he muff
dives dive. King Napoleon he did go down, So yeah,
I feel like his that's one of the great unexplored
(16:04):
like historical docuseries that we we still need the great Napoleon.
Like the only example we have is from Get Shorty, right,
the fake um oh Danny that it was like, don't
get Shorty so much Laterly, I don't even know. I
(16:26):
don't even know why. I think about Renee Russo a lot,
and not even because Outburt, but just written general had
a Renee Russo she popped into my dreams, like as
a ticket taker somewhere. I was like, okay, you work
at AMC because I was going to a movie and
I think it was get I don't know these choir dreams.
(16:48):
I had a dream that Johnny Depp was my chiropractor.
I don't know where that came from, but I was
okay with it. I woke up feeling all right, new
day and yeah, and you realized you were wearing one
of his turquoise bracelets, Like how I beat Shock? You're like,
(17:09):
I like every time you have a dream about a celebrity,
you have to wake up with like a piece of
their clothing on, and then you know it wasn't actually
it really happened. You were just wearing one of shocks shoes.
Aaron Carter really beat Shack in the game. He couldn't
have gotten that jersey otherwise you wake up sleeping inside
checks shoe. Alright, Kim, guys, everyone, let's take a quick
(17:34):
break and we'll be right back, and we're back on
the subject of why we shouldn't want to go back
to driving. Uh, let's talk about the roads and who
(17:57):
is out there on them. This is a great This
is a great news. Yeah, yeah, why do you not
drive much? I don't have a driver's license. I've never
passed the test. Oh well, then this is great news.
This is a big day. I listen, Jack, I know
you've seen me drive, but that doesn't mean that I
had an okay riding dirty. That's back when I had
(18:25):
my O one Corolla. Pull up my O one Corolla
and not have a license. It was kind of like
it was a fun summer pull up to the scene
when my license missing. So the Georgia Department of Driver
Services or their d m v uh. You know, a
lot of bureaucratic institutions have just like tremendous backlogs of
like applications and paperwork when legal cases, liquor licenses, whatever.
(18:47):
It's just because it's not moving right now and no
one's out there. But so to deal with their backlog
of people. Yeah, thanks to the Green New Deal, there's
a lot of teenagers that had their permits and they're like, yo,
I'm trying to get this fucking license. I want to
take my driver's test. Let me get in there. On Wednesday.
Last Wednesday, the state's Department of Drivers Services said that
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they had upgraded nineteen thousand, four hundred eighty three teen
permits to full on licenses without a test, without a test,
They just waived the test. I love it, and I
think goes from like needing your parents in the seat
next to you, like slamming their foot on an imaginary
break because they're terrified and think you're driving too fast,
(19:30):
to just being able to drive on your own whatever
you want. You know what, Some people don't test. Well, okay,
those driving tests are culturally biased. Here's the thing. Sometimes
when someone says don't hit the curb, I hear something
(19:52):
a little different. And I never passed the test that
I don't know. This is a great idea, y'all. I
slipped through the cracks, right, Really, I scared my license.
I've never took a driver's test. I've been drinking taking
a driver's test. No, I know you. I know you
do have a license. I know, and I drive terribly. Okay, Well, hey,
(20:17):
we don't have to make it hot for you on
that terribly every day I get i'd be like, thank
the Lord we made it again, because it'd be touch
and go on the road for me. But no, I
went to driver's edge school, but my sister went to
drivers at school and she did have to take a
(20:39):
driver's license test. At the end of Drivers at School,
my driver's at teacher was like, you really need to
practice more, and then I got my license. O God.
So I sympathized with these nineteen thousand kids. I hope
that they'll be all right. They're mostly do a rural driving,
and I have like such I have like such a
(20:59):
boom hers like college debt being canceled. Take on this.
I'm like, hell no, I had to fail that ship
fucking twice. I had to go to like two spooky
d m v s that were not near my house
because those are like the d m v s and
I that's that was what wasdale. I'm never gonna pass.
Like did you give these ships out parallel park till
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I moved to l A. I was like, yeah, yeah, okay,
I don't even hit people's cars anymore. Major. I guess
the licensing process is not the dragnet that we're we're
making it out to be because I also basically failed,
(21:41):
but because the woman giving me the test was my teammates,
and I just got through. You got nepotism. I got nepotism.
Like that, Like that she gave me an eight. She
gave me the worst score you could possibly give somebody
without failing them. And like she she would have failed
(22:02):
me if she didn't feel bad for me. I like
that the personality angle you get in there, sadness, cute,
you're probably working some little cuteness to Like I was
crying the whole time I was trying to get out
of a ticket. Very pathetic. Really turned up the pathetic.
(22:23):
Oh man, I remember when I failed mine. I punched
the dashboard of the car and my dad almost fucking
his body slamming, and the he's like he's like, he's
like he's like, that's your fault, Like basically like it's
that that teacher and I hit the think I mean,
I'm sucking seventeen or eighteen or whatever. Wild now uh
and yeah, anyway, I wasn't in a good place. Yes,
(22:46):
you have a lot of stress around the driver's test.
My blood pressures going up. My my watch is telling
me to take a few breaths breathes now. Yeah, anyways,
take a d drive a couple of clicks. More conservative
if you live in the Georgia area, guys, be safe
out there. What is a myth, Catherine, what what's something
(23:10):
people think it's true you know, to be false or
vice versa. So the idea of a patient zero, specifically
as it relates to the HIV epidemic, the COVID bad
isn't real. Probably not one of the reasons. So there's
a couple of reasons why patient zero is a false premise.
In one of them, I think it's so interesting and
(23:31):
so basic. It's all about linguistics. The doctor who wrote
up the report about patient zero, he actually didn't write zero.
He wrote oh, as in, this is our patient who
was outside of California because they were studying people in California,
but it got misinterpreted as patient zero, which obviously is
a way cooler like branding. Right it sounds good, Yeah,
(23:52):
disease within themselves? Yeah, yeah, I will make it. Because
the myth is about like a flight attendant, right, yeah, exactly,
a guy who he was a flight attendant and French
something French Canadian hum Gaiton Douga I think was his name,
And the idea was that he was just an absolute
sex maniac, going from city to city on the airplanes
(24:14):
and fucking everybody, and that he knew he was sick,
but he didn't care. He just had to bang constantly.
So none of that was really true. It's just a
good story in the sense of like, all it's going
to get all the conservatives upset, but it's yeah. And
one of the reasons why he was actually incredibly helpful
(24:34):
was studying HIV. It's actually really heartbreaking that he was
so demonized because the reason he was so helpful was
because he actually remembered the names of most of the
people he had sex with, so they were able to
trace from him, whereas all the other early patients were like,
I don't know, I don't know who any of these
people were. So he was like sweet enough to catch
their names, and then he got in trouble for it essentially,
(24:59):
so is there he was just noteworthy because he was
so helpful to researchers, and like there was so much
written up on him because he was able to help
do like contact tracing. Yeah, that's exactly what it was.
And then this book was published a few years after
he died, called and the Band Played On, which is
pretty famous I think a documentary version, and the person
(25:22):
writing it like laid all of the blame for HIV
essentially on him, And then a few years after that,
the editor of the book publicly apologized, saying that he
let the author do that on purpose because he knew
it would drum up book sales and he knew that
it wasn't true. Oh damn yeah, not worth it, No,
not at all. It's crazy. So that's another thing I think,
(25:44):
like in in these times that looking for a patient zero,
and I see in the media they'll still do that,
like patient zero zero or like patient zero of this
particular outbreak in Chicago. It's like, I don't know, I
don't know we should be doing that. I don't know
what benefit there is. I mean maybe just for the
purposes of scientific data gathering, as like some way to
(26:06):
just identify, like I think this is where we need
to look first, but like for the meeting, that concept
of it, I think is what you're like talking about.
It is like how we need like who do we blame? Funk?
Was it who ate? Some weird ship? What the like?
That's I think what that idea of a patient zero
helps people do is just be like, funk that person.
(26:27):
It just builds up their anger. Also, speaking of which
I want to say that we keep saying wet market
in America, I think because it sounds gross, so we
get to think that it's gross. It's a farmer's market.
If we just called it a farmer's market, people would
have a clearer idea of what they were talking about,
and maybe a less racist one. I don't know, maybe
what why do they call? What? Where did that designation
of wet market? Like? What do you have to be
(26:47):
to be have a wet market? I think it's the
things that they sell there. If I'm remembering correctly, that
a wet market has meat and the dry market is
like only um like grains and stuff like that. It's
a fresh meat, ish produce, imperishable goods. Yeah, the fucking
farmer's market. There's not a fish not a fishmonger there.
There's not a meat person there, there's not the every
(27:09):
person selling produce. Really interesting, Yeah, Yeah, we have to
move on to some important news because Miles, you've had
a had a spiritual shift on your relationship to uh
guy Fiery. Yeah, I mean Guy Fiery. The fear of sons,
as I call it, has opened my eyes to some
(27:30):
prejudices that I was holding against this man um you know,
like the last I feel like eighteen months, I feel
like the Fiery Sons has been like in full effect,
where every story that comes out is like, what, guy
Fear is not a douche bag. I truly think that
Shane Taurus shout out Shane like started the national waking up,
(27:53):
the global waking up to the fact that guy Fearing
never did anything to hurt us. Yeah, and like, I'm like, wait,
hold on, this dude is like got like he's like
a good dad and husband. I'm like what, I'm like,
what he officiated a mass same sex marriage for over
a hundred and one same sex couples in honor of
his sister who is lesbian that passed away. I'm like, so,
(28:17):
I'm like okay. And then the reason I bring this
up now is that, like we found out that there
was this National Restaurant Association Education Foundation fund that was
being set up for restaurant employee relief because the food
industry has been just absolutely fucked by this whole shutdown.
It's like it's horrific um to the point where most
(28:38):
rust like I don't know what to do. I don't
know how we reopened. I guess we'll just like just
go to the wheels come off at this point and
then we'll go from there. But this fund was meant to,
you know, help employees receive like a one time five
dollar check when you apply to use for whatever you need,
your bills, your rent or whatever. Turns out Guy Fieri
was on his grizzy because he was banging those phones
(29:01):
and reaching out to like corporate donors. He knew he
this dude raised over twenty million dollars for this fund,
like in a matter of a couple of weeks for it,
and that means that's like when they break that down,
that's like forty people who can get this grant because
of him. And I'm like, yes, I I abandoned like
guy Fiery sucks maybe a year ago. But I'm like,
(29:22):
but now, like with this one, I've I've had to
take another moment, is to just examine what my fiery
hate was. Was it that? Like it's funny because I'm
a huge Triple D fan. I love that show. I
think it's great. I love food. There's not yeah, and
creates exactly like the amount of business it's created for
these small these small restaurants is fantastic. Like there's apps
(29:44):
even dedicated to be like, am I near a thing?
Guy Fiery has been to um? And now when you
but then I'm just sort of like, what the funk
is it? I'm like, was it? It was easy to
talk ship because he just looked like a dudel was
spiked tips and ship and I was just like a funk,
that funk is weird? Flame button ups. I was like
I had to take a moment and just say like,
(30:05):
it was Guy Fiery merely there for me to feel
cool comparatively, and and not only now I waking up
to my own shallowness as to what my relationship with
guy Fiery actually is. I don't know. Yeah, that was
beautiful though that I love this process Like it was
just weird. I'm like, why the fund do I like?
Honestly like I like everything he does, aside from me
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being like, okay, I wouldn't dress like that. There. Yeah,
there's something to be said for like it's easy to
hate someone doing something very goofy, very confidently. I think
that it's it's very easy to pile on and then yeah,
and but it's like if you look at like, well,
what is that person actually doing? Like what are they
(30:48):
doing there? Promoting a local business while looking goofy and
being confident. Then it's just I feel like it's almost
one of those like I don't know, like you're you're
sort of cringe on their behalf because they're not going
to cringe for themselves. But he's fine himself. He seems
to like himself, and I think that's no exactly like
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insecure people don't like to see secure people do their
ship because deep down you're like, why you why do
you have that confidence to look like that? But really,
I'm like, it's necessarily like I think I'm speaking for myself,
I'm speaking for himself. I'm dismansing my own insecurities visa
via my relationship with Guy Fiery. I think the way
he entered the kind of collective consciousness is as like
(31:36):
it's like Larry if Larry the Cable Guy was a
Mad TV character Guy Fiery was played by That was
just a different character played by that same like Mad
TV performer. I feel like they were like it was
just that same like vibe. So yeah, I just feel
like he got a bad break from like how he
(31:58):
came package to two people. But yeah, I mean I agree,
like judging people by their by their hair is probably
not fair. Um probably well. Also, I think also I
had a kind of chip on my shoulder because I
didn't like the name text was sabis. I was like,
fuck that, you don't know shit about anything, bro, just
(32:20):
keeping moving with the fun restaurant. And then and then
there's that New York Times review of his restaurant in
Times Square, and I was like, Oh, this guy sucks.
But it was like from this snarky perspective of like
food writers who just want to take a dump on
I'm like, yeah, the food sucks or whatever, but like
in my mind now I'm like leave. So I actually
have a different take on that article because that review
(32:43):
of Guy Fiery's restaurant in New York Times is very famous.
I thought it was very funny, like it was written
in a very funny manne. But I think people misunderstand
what the writer was trying to do because they were
saying that the writer was being a snob for caring
that the food wasn't good at that restaurant. But I
think what the writer was saying was like, people are
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going to come on a special trip to New York
and they're going to go on a special trip dinner
to this restaurant and the food is not good and
you're charging forty tree and you shouldn't do that. And
I think that was like a different point, but every
but the way there were way Yeah. I think there
were some descriptions of the food though that I was like, oh, okay,
I mean, look, I enjoyed this, right, I mean there's
(33:27):
no doubt, don't get me wrong, But I'm just you know, again,
all this to say, I'm I'm doing all this introspection now,
uh to to you know, this is what I'm this
is the work I'm doing in choir. If I come
out of here loving Guy Fieri, then I feel like
I've done my part. You've grown person. Did you know
that he also fed firefighters and people who lost their house? Yeah,
(33:48):
he's just a fucking That's what I'm saying. Like, it's weird.
How did we just sort of reached this like threshold
where it was no longer? I don't know. I think
societally we all just begin to be like, yeah, we're
not whatever. It's Guy Fieri Like, maybe we've all grown.
I don't know. I will say also that I went
to a very fancy food event in Las Vegas at
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Caesar's Palace in the pool area, and there's like multiple
pools there, and at all the pools it was a
bunch of dressed up people like quietly drinking cocktails. But
then when you went to Guy Fieri's pool area, that
was a party. They had like a Guns and Roses
cover band and like airbrush artists doing work and people
were in the pool like it wasn't much fun. Scene
(34:33):
is like scoffing from his side exactly. Yes, I pretty accurate.
I grew up in a very pro fiery family where
it was t. G. I Frids that carried his deal.
Because I remember we like my mom was very enthusiastic
about Fieri's output and so and she also I'm kind
of every time I hear his name, I'm wondering where
she picked this up. But she had this thing where
(34:55):
she would be like, it's not Fiery, it's Fierti. You
have to pronounce that the Italian way. You very into him.
And so we went we went to like t G.
I fried As, and my mom was like, I would
like Guy Fiertti's mozzarellistics, Like he's fun. He's like he's
fun and and The best part is that guy Fiery
(35:17):
Fiery Fiertti depending on the pronunciation you preferred, doesn't give
a fuck what we think of him, and that is
part of why he is himself. He doesn't he someone
who like you. Just if you're Guy Fieri, you can't
give a funk what people think of you, or you
can't be yourself in that way. I think also understanding
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of what Diners, drive Ins and Dives was doing, because
I know when it started, I think I was in
my early twenties and I was like, why does he
like everything? How can he be this enthusiastic about all food? Yeah,
but now, like I'm smarter and also smarter people than
we have explained it to me. It was totally just
to keep these businesses going. That's whatever. Yeah, I mean
(36:01):
if you if you go to John taffa route where
you travel the country verbally abusing small business owners, that's like,
it's just it's it's just as fun to watch. But
you're like, this is a less noble endeavor. I mean,
I hope this is what what that article by Man
(36:22):
was talking about. How like another way that pandemics influenced
culture is by uh, you know that there was like
a peasant revolt after the after the Black Plague. And
I'm hoping that we see and maybe this is like
emerging class solidarity where like we used to identify, like
(36:42):
we used to be stratified by like well, I'm a
New York Times reader and looking down on like Guy Fierti,
And now it's more like we are we are, We're
all Guy Fiertia. Guy Fox masks, Guy Fierti masks. Yeah, dude,
Oh my god, that's there here the macconnaissance. He just
(37:14):
like got a Lincoln sponsorship. Whereas guys doing doing raising
million dollars. Uh, alright, guys, let's take a quick break
and we'll be right back and we're back. Well, speaking
(37:37):
of dreams, let's talk about Robert Pattinson. You guys, Jamie,
you read the article. I read the article. Uh this
so this is uh. I know that like celebrities are canceled,
but but they're not for real and so so Robert
Pattinson has a storied history of giving wild as interviews
(37:59):
because he doesn't like doing interviews and he's he's a
loose cannon. And I think he's really bored right now.
So I guess I will I'll before we get into
the interview he just gave to g Q, which was bananas. Um,
I'll start by prefacing my previous favorite Robert Pattinson interview stunt,
(38:20):
which was back in eleven. He was promoting a movie
called Water for Elephants. It had something to do with
the circus, uh, and he went on The Today Show
with Matt Lower and Matt Lower is asking you know,
bullshit softball morning show questions. He's like, oh, did you
ever want to join the circus when you were a kid,
(38:40):
And Robert Pattinson comes out and says, no, the first
time I went to see the circus, somebody died, one
of the clowns died. And then and then he goes
on to say the clowns little car exploded, the joke
car explode, and he just like this interview ages very
(39:03):
well because it's also fucking Matt Lower, and he just
like silenced as Matt Lower, and Matt Lower was like,
oh the worst. I mean, obviously for the reasons that
we've learned, but also just the yeah, I guess it's
just like as we don't also, but just he was, Yeah,
(39:23):
he like his personality and his presence as a media
like entity. Like I feel like just stopped making just
fell off a cliff of making sense like ten years ago,
and now it's like looking back is like, why are
we letting this smug asshole be like professionally smug and
(39:46):
professionally an asshole. Anyways, I love Robert Pattinson ever since
I saw a good time. Oh he's yeah, he's he's
like a good fun like he gets away with ship
that It almost makes me because like male actors can
get away with anything and just be called a genius.
But that's not Robert Pattinson's fault. That's the culture's fault.
(40:07):
So anyways, Robert Pattinson comes out like a couple of
years later and admits that the whole clown thing was
a lie. He's like, I made the whole thing up.
Of course it's coming back to haunt me. It was
really early in the morning. Someone asked me what my
experience with the circus was, and I was like, I
have nothing interesting to say. I don't know why I
said that. So he just lied to Matt Lowerd And
(40:28):
so in this GQ interview, Robert Pattinson has been plus
quarantine equals it's going to be a good interview, And
in the middle of the interview, he brings up that
he has this business idea. Uh so, he says, is
that rest is the interview so far up until this
point seemingly a normal interview texture pat interview. It's it has,
(40:56):
but it's like generally pretty normal. He's talking about like
the Christopher Nolan movie he's going to be and he's
talking about like being quarantined in the middle of production
for Batman. Like he says some funny things, but it's
like he's generally going with it. But then I guess
this is like the one day, one day, like three
days into this like multiple day interview process. He says, uh,
(41:19):
this is his business idea. What if pasta really had
the same kind of fast food credentials as burgers and pizza.
I was trying to figure out how to capitalize in
this area of the market, and I was trying to think,
how do you make a pasta which you can hold
in your hand? And then he goes on to say
that he has a prototype for it, and he made
(41:40):
the prototype with a panini press, and then he set
up in a meeting with I don't know if I'm
saying this correctly. Lilia Massamini, who co founded Sugarfish, like
like Robert Pattinson called them up and was like, I
have an idea for pasta you can hold in your hand,
and like Massamini confirmed this. They had a whole meeting
(42:00):
about it. It must have been he was like, it's true.
I was not interested. Uh so this isn't a clown
car vibe. This is a long bit that he's doing.
It's fucking incredible, Like it's really impressive. So he so
he goes on to describe the product. He says that
(42:21):
it's called Piccolini Cuskin. No, it's called it's called Little
Pillow Piccolini Cusino. Um, he's my little pillow guy. Yeah.
So he's like, okay, is Piccolini Cuskino. I'll pitch it
to you in this g Q interview and maybe I'll
(42:41):
get an investor. So he's like, okay, I've got a prototype.
They're like on FaceTime. He takes out a huge box
of corn flakes. Um, and he's like, oh, I couldn't
find bread crumbs at the store. I'll get corn flakes.
It's the same ship. He takes out one. He takes
out one gigantic novelty lighter to Flambay. He takes out
(43:05):
nine packs of pre sliced cheese and he's like, and
then you need sauce. And the writer is like, what
kind of sauce. He's like, any kind of sauce. Pattinson
puts on latex gloves, put takes out sugar and aluminum foil,
builds the little Piccolini cuscino and then he says, okay,
now you have to microwave the pasta. He accidentally lights
(43:29):
one of his gloves on fire and he's now so
now he's hurt. He has this giant like phony letter.
He lights his hand on fire. He's like, oh. Then
he goes back and then he burns the uh letters
P and C into the top of a Hamburger bun
(43:49):
for Piccolini cusin no Uh. Then he puts the entire thing,
included aluminum foil into the microwave at is okay, we're
gonna heat it up, and he explode the microwave and
there's like a lightning bolt that comes out of the
microwave and he like takes cover all on face time
(44:11):
and and then the microwave break. This sounds very similar
to me drunk trying to do a pizza rolls. Yeah,
and then he just goes back to the phone and
he's like, yeah, I think I have to leave that alone.
But that is a Piccolini cosino and that's like what
a fucking ender, And that is how you did he
(44:35):
just try it on the fly because you learn from
the aluminum mistake once, like he knew, he knew, I
saw the pictures. I don't know. Maybe he's until Pattinson's
the new fucking Jhon ham who's like guy who's comedians
(44:57):
no offense, but he's more talented than John Hamm and no.
But I mean like he clearly has a knack for
like he likes comedy, you know what I mean, Like
he has a sense of humor. He's a little cheeky
based on the lour ship and even this like microwave
aluminum foil bit. But I wonder if like he'd ever
truly be like you know, like they're a little more comedy.
(45:17):
You know. I think it wants to be like Joaquin Phoenix,
Like I think he wants to be a guy that
can do anything and is known for being eccentric guy.
So this is this is basically manufactured. So this is
shitty manufactured eccentricity. I don't know. I I kind of
he's been doing it long enough that I believe that
(45:38):
he's a weird guy. He did Twilight, and that's weird enough.
He did Twilight, and he was also like, if you
watch his old press interviews from Twilight, he's actively making
fun of the experience of being like there was never
a moment in his career where he was deeply sincere.
And then he's like, he's a goof, He's a weird guy.
I don't know. And it is true that like really
(45:58):
only like male actors of a certain type can like
get away with this ship and not be like dismissed
as like annoying or difficult. But I just happened to
like how he specifically does it. All right, Yeah, Piccolini Cuskino, baby,
I'd wait to see more from this comedian invest now.
(46:19):
It does really kim to your point. Sound sound a
lot like something I like my behavior when I was drunk,
And I do wonder if we'll find out that he
was just a fun drunk for most of his career
adult in twenty years, He's like, looking back, I was
(46:41):
sad at six a time. Yeah, all right, that's gonna
do it. For this week's weekly Zeitgeist. Please like and
review the show. If you like the show, uh means
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(47:05):
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Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.
Dateline NBC
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Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
Ding dong! Join your culture consultants, Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang, on an unforgettable journey into the beating heart of CULTURE. Alongside sizzling special guests, they GET INTO the hottest pop-culture moments of the day and the formative cultural experiences that turned them into Culturistas. Produced by the Big Money Players Network and iHeartRadio.