July 26, 2020 • 47 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of The
Weekly Zeitgeist. Uh. These are some of our favorite segments
from this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment
last stravaganza. Uh yeah, So, without further ado, here is
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the Weekly Zeitgeist. Really uh, Eves, what is something that
you think is underrated? Hm? So I had to think
really hard about this. Um, But I think that's saying
I don't know is underrated. Um, this is big. This
has been a new trend yet. Yeah. Yeah, I think
it is. And and obviously it's really true that there
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is a world of info like at our availability that
we have a media access to, Like that's definitely true.
A Google is a click away, like we have all
of that at our hands. And I feel very fortunate,
you know, to be able to look up whatever I
want to, including exercise induced or to carry it. Um,
to figure that out. But I think that when you know,
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it's definitely important when it comes to when we're uninformed
on something like being able to say I don't know,
it's just I don't know. I mean it feels kind
of freeing in a way where it's like I do
I would say that I feel a lot of the
time the pressure to know everything because I know that
I do have all of that information at my fingertips.
But I also think in a larger way in a scope,
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just saying I don't know, it's kind of freeing because
there's so much that there is uncertainty around right now
when it comes to the future, like and I think
about that specifically around abolition, Like we have we have
a lot of ideas about what we want to work,
how we want it to work, the kind of future
that we want to build, and the kind of world
that we want to see. Um. But I think that
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there is something very valuable in being able to say
I don't know around I have no fucking idea if
those ideas are going to work, I have no idea
how long they'll take to or I have like, I
have no idea of what I'm saying right now is
the right thing, if it's the wrong thing, if we
want to put things in the binary like that. But
I think that there is a way in which, yeah,
saying I don't know around specific issues right now is
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so important because there are so many people fucking talking
who don't need to be, And then there's so many
people's voices who who need to be hurt that people
aren't listening to and yeah, um, like making sure that
those voices are uplifted is important and saying I don't know,
but it's also envisioning is being able to envision and
being able to assume risk, which I think obviously as
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black people, I and if I can speak for the collective,
we are so risk averse for so many important reasons.
You know, we want to survive and we want to thrive.
But I think that saying I don't know, it's like,
you know, we can open ourselves up to risk, and
we can open ourselves up to uncertainty, and that's so
that like that's okay, that can be okay, and we
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can tell ourselves that that that's okay because right now
we have a lot of information that we do know
that we don't want. Uh. And in a way there's
comfort and saying like, well, I know how this system
is operating already, all that data has been there's centuries
worth the data and on top of it, to your
point of the idea, especially around a lot of racial justice,
like this has been a field of academia for decades, uh,
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and there have been many people putting their life's work
into these into you know, theorizing these things and uh
and investigating them and trying to figure out what is
a tangible way to dismantle these systems of oppression. And
but then, and I've said I think I said this
very earlier on, that's where there's another layer of racism,
that this form of academia runs into another like form
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of gate keeping about sort of like what are these
black and brown people are gonna tell me about how
the justice system and there's things get held up and
we don't know that message doesn't reach the people it
needs to at you know, I think at the moment
they needed. And now I think with a lot of
this renewed enthusiasm or new and musiasm from new people
who are joining this movement, yeah, it really is important
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to say, hey, you don't have to commit. No one's
asking you to come in here a fully formed ally
who knows every dimension of oppression and how to just
like dismantle it. The first thing is that you show
your enthusiasm for it. You're and then you're all open.
You are open to hearing things and you are open
to learning new things, just like everybody else is because
I think the way we get to where we are
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is at a certain point, motherfucker's go already know everything,
So I don't need to keep I know what's best.
I will keep going down this path and just funding
the police and law enforcement and let the budgets keep
getting bigger and bigger and bigger, and you know, no
support for social safety nets, etcetera. Uh for sure. Yeah.
And I think that we often operate in the way
where we say we don't know so easily. Like we
we care a lot about science and about the parameters
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that happen around science and know that it is a
thing that it's infinitely changing, and we know that that's
the foundation of science is something that will never know everything.
And the reason that we have science and that we
have experimentation and that we have continued with learning is
because we know we don't know everything. And like, just
applying that to this, I thought, what, everything can't tell
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me anything new. I already heard everything. I've already seen
every episode of Law and Order. So conversation is over. Yeah,
And I think what's also interesting too is, you know,
smart people especially I think, actually have the hardest time
saying they don't know anything, especially if your self perception
is like oh, people come to me for information or
I'm I've been told, I've been of like I'm sharp
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or whatever. I find that that is a thing, even
for me, like I found, you know, through years of therapy,
being able to be able to say, yeah, I don't
know that even though like you have. I know, for
me personally as a child, like trying to know everything
or get good grades, like started a habit of like
trying to know everything, but it didn't give me to
the healthy place of like actually the pursuit of knowledge
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and wisdom, which is to then put your ego in
the fucking trash and say, bring me all of the
information so I could just blow my mind open. Yeah,
I feel like, oh no, I was just gonna say, yeah,
I agree with m I was like, I want to
say that I'm totally implicated in that as well, and
thinking like I'm a black woman, I know about blackness,
and like, you know, my experience is mine and really
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getting caught up in my singular perspective and like really
having to unlearn and learn things in terms of like okay,
I'm staying from my specific worldview a transperson's life a
black life is nothing like my black life is. And
a person who is like from a different part of Georgia, like,
even if it's that small um than I am because
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I grew up in the suburbs of Atlanta, like their
life is going to be very different than mine, even
if they're a black woman as well, and just like
snapping myself out of that. M Yeah, I've I've felt that, like,
and I wonder if it is connected to like how
we are programmed to learn in America, where I think
that there are times where if you don't know something
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and someone tells you like that's not right, or like
I don't think you understand what is being said here,
that there is like a tendency to take that very
like personally and be like, what, I don't know something?
You know, It's like there is a tendency to take
it personally. I've felt that in in the past as well,
and it's like just unlearning that mentality of like if
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someone tells you that you don't like first of all,
if you're not able to say you don't know something
and you get it wrong, like you have to not
make it this like battle of the ego to just say, oh, okay,
I'm listening, um, which a lot of people true is
for sure. I mean, yeah, that's just the I think
that's the other thing, too, is that it's so much
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it's a lot harder actually to say you don't know,
but it's actually the best thing you can do. I
think you know that actually is a demonstration of higher aptitude,
because you can learn anything the second someone tells it
to you. But it's hard to put that ship aside
and say I don't know what you're talking about? Would
you mind telling you about that? I think can be,
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you know, depending on how you look at yourself, a
difficult thing, especially when it comes to the politics and
people's identities. Repped m boy, What is something you think
is underrated? Okay, honestly, I think the damaging or delatorious
effects the callousness of people on social media. And I
never thought I would be a hardcore advocating for something
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like this. I'm not a mental health expert or something.
I know probably talked about it on Daily Zeitgeist. But
the Kanye West presidential bid, for example, like the guy's
actually filing paperwork. You can see it. He's filed for
Oklahoma and stuff and people are you know, I think
we easily forget that's uh, even celebrities or whatever, real people.
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I think it's like we have to remember we don't
know these people, and it's it's very close to shooting
on someone with mental illness. I get it roast people.
I'm all a roast everybody at some point, but I
think that we're not giving due deference to the fact
that these are real people at the other end of
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the hands. So that's me making up for the falcon
fucking hat. Yeah, I mean, well, now that's we have.
I mean it's clear he is uh in a state
of distress, like he that that clip of him in
South Carolina whatever that rally or stumps whatever you want
to call that. It was really um unsettling, like it was.
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It was kind of upsetting to see because he was
sort of all over the place and you could tell
based on the way he was talking, was almost as
if everyone was telling him to not go and he
was like, no, I know what's best for me. Don't
tell me what to do, because he's like, if Kim
divorces me for doing this, I don't care. And it's
like that almost sounds like she may have said, please,
don't do this, or you're putting our marriage at risk,
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and he still went out and did it. And that's
the other sort of toxic scited. The equation is like
on one hand, people look at and they're like, wow,
it's the TV because I've been you know, sort of
inoculated with this idea, this message that like to be
a celebrity means like the perfect existence where everything is
manicured and like, you know, stresses of the world don't
reach you. But then we lose our ability to just
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look at him and say, this man is in he's
like in pain. And it could also be that there
are many people around him who are not really taking
that seriously and just want to keep this thing going,
like of being around him and saying like enabling him,
and there's a lot of talk to that he's seriously
like there he's going to seriously put a lot of
his businesses in jeopardy too with this um the whole
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campaign and everything with it. What is something from your
search history that's revealing about who you are? I recently
looked up Public Access TV. Yeah, a project I'm working on,
and I forgot the particulars of public access TV. But
it was so important to not just society, but I
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guess to me too, just like watching weird stuff on
public access TV was part of how I spent most
of my free time when I was a kid. Um,
anybody could be a TV host. Anybody could could sign
up and have studio time and cameras and be put
on television. It reminds me somewhat of of being on
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a podcast. Uhbody could do it. Uh no, just but
but seriously, like I missed public access TV. I miss
that you could get perspectives from outsiders where people weren't
necessarily trying to be just famous or follow trends. Because
public SSTV shows existed in a bubble where there was
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no commentary, there was no feedback. It was just like,
I'm gonna make this thing because it seems good to me,
but nobody could like immediately instantly tell you you suck
with your TV show came out, So a lot of people,
you know that ended up being successful and doing cool
things started on public access TV. M Green's TV show
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was on public Access TV. And I don't know how
people feel about Tom Green, but I mean he's a
big deal for me when I was a kid, I
thought he was hilarious. Some of the hardest laughs I
I had at a very developmental period of my life. Yeah,
I remember my mother just really realizing something was wrong
with me because she's like, there's just ship on a
microphone and that's funny to you. And I'm like, but
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he's just putting it in their face and he's not
saying you did you think about it? And nothing made
me a laugh partner than when he sent the cow's
head to his parents. Uh, the statue that he put
on his parents lawn of his dead hitting his mom
probably wouldn't fly these days. But the other thing I remember,
like in public Access was sort of like the way
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I saw like some like raw like adult content that
you could not really find anywhere else, and it took
like you know, older kids would be like, I don't
know if you watch public access, man, but like it
goes down late at night and you can see a
titty if you try hard enough. Yeah, Like it was
that was like the I remember the Promised Land. At first,
when I was even engaging with it, it was like
that's like the dark web of content basically. Yeah, it
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was like YouTube before YouTube for people. I'm sure there's
a lot of our younger listeners who don't even realize
like what we're talking about, but for a long time
they're like Channel three. I think where I where I
lived was public access and it was just you know,
video tapes. I remember once I saw uh and watched
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the entirety of a slasher movie made by people with
absolutely no experience, and uh, it was a blast. I
would get my stalker content or slasher content anywhere I could, um,
But the Channel three, because where I grew up, Channel
three was the channel had to be on to play
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Super Nintendo Yes, yeah, or the VCR or something. It
was eiven three or four. Yeah. I don't know why. Yeah,
it changed based on like I guess maybe some some
are has kept one channel sacred, Like there's no Channel
three in the l A market, so that was ours
because four was NBC. But I'm guessing other places three
was a channel four was anyway. Yeah, No, three was
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definitely my channel for the bc R And that actually
shows how poorly thought out everything was back in the eighties,
because you'd think that Channel three would have been like
a really hot one to get because people would go
to turn it on that channel to watch a movie
on the BCR and like be you know, there's just
a lot of traffic going through that station. But instead
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it was always like public access and just bullshit. Um,
so bad job by you, Cable. What is what's something
you think is underrated? Underrated? Well? You know, um again
trying to to start with the lighter stuff. I'm I
prefer to to start off with the what's overrated things? Right? Yeah, yeah,
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so you know something that I think is overrated? Maybe
this is a little controversial, right, but mmmm, I would
say sharing a bed with your spouse on a nightly basis.
Like when you say something like that, automatically your thought
is like, uh, you know, what's what's wrong? What's going
on there? You guys doing yes? Yes, yes, I say
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I say no no, no, no no. Totally on the contrary, um,
you know, having your own space, um, and being able
to say, look, I'm more I love you very much,
but I also need really need a good night's sleep,
and you know I'm going to take it. As you know,
maybe one of you is a night owl and the
other one is a morning person, or maybe one of
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you wakes up in the middle of the night and
has some brilliant idea, has to turn on the lights
and you know, jot it down. Yeah, I keep waiting
for that to happen. That's only a movie's monica. Yeah,
it's yet to happen to me. Um but but but yeah, no,
I think it. It's and this, this is something I
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want to talk to talk about a little hopefully in
the show. Is these gender roles that that that we
that we play and how we can um redefine them.
And you know, it's nice to have on a daily basis,
your own you know, I'm going to take a step
further and not just say, you know, you should have
your own bed, but you should have your own bedroom
if you know, if you can, if you're not living
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in New York or San Francisco where you can barely
afford a studio, your own space, right, Yeah, you have
your own It's you know, it's about having your own space,
having some independence. Um and uh and and yeah, I
think that strengthens you as a person, and it strengthens
you as a in a relationship, and you have a
better night's sleep. And if that doesn't mean you can't
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like have sleepovers and visit and such, so it makes
it a lot more fun. Yeah, yeah, that's the bed.
I totally understand because, uh, you know, my partner, her majesty,
she likes to have pets in the bed, and I'm like, a,
I don't like to inconvenience people. So I sleep very
like in a very thin sliver of the bed because
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I don't want to wake her up. Then I'm like,
I don't want to. I don't want to wake my
pets up. I don't know why I'm going there's thought
you were going to say that you sleep in the
dog create I'm working on my great training right now.
But yeah, like so from that point I realized too,
I'm like, you know what, I'm gonna sleep somewhere else
because that way, like you can get down and I
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don't have to feel bad about not disturbing anyone and
get my own night's sleep because I think everyone has
different sleep styles. I sleep next to a sprawler and
I'm very much like the it's just so weird, Like
I don't advocate from my my own sleep when I'm
in bed because I'm like, but the other person sleep,
and then you gotta you gotta take care of yourself,
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even that means getting awake night bed for a little bit.
A good night's sleep is crucial. It'll make everybody happier.
I say, give it, give it a try, Give it
a try. My two year old was up at two
in the morning until four in the morning this morning,
so I did not get a good night's sleep, and
I have witnessed my brain malfunctioning, like I'll see the
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wrong word coming out of my mouth as I'm as
I'm speaking. So I yeah, just a fair word of
warning there um that I'm about to show you the
value of a good night's sleep in the negative. Playing
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musical beds is also also an option, especially when you've
got kids. All right, guys, let's take a quick break
and we'll be right back. And we are back eaves.
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What is a myth? What is something that people think
is true you know, to be false or vice versa.
So I don't know if this is an overall myth,
but it's something that it's a sentiment that I've been
seeing a lot lately on the Internet that's been floating around,
and that's that black women shouldn't be told or don't
need to be told that we're strong um, And I
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definitely understand the sentiment because it's coming from a place
where so often our oppressors specifically are the ones who
are telling us that, like, we don't experience pain, and
that's in a very established way, you know, when that
comes to UM, the medical industry, UM just always saying that,
and I know so many of us have had personal experiences,
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but saying that are we don't experience pain, that we're strong,
that we're tough, that we can make it through this,
that we can make it through that there's the superhuman stereotype, uh,
that we can do all of that. And I think
that yes, in that manner, like our oppressors don't need
to tell us that we're strong because if we take
it contextually, we know their intention behind that, and we
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know that so long, what public health has meant for
black women and black people in general is death. Like
public health equal death when it came to black people.
So UM, I think, yes, all of that is true.
And I just wanted to preface it with that because
obviously that's the case. And I also can't speak for
anyone specific black woman wanting or not wanting to be
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told that she's strong because that's her preference and it's
up to her, and it's it's that's one how that
makes her feel. But I can't speak for myself and
that I want. I want black women to tell me
that I'm strong because I feel like in a way
telling telling black women that are saying that we shouldn't
be told that we're strong is kind of affirming the
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idea that we are by by nature strong, like it's
affirming the it's affirming the oppressor's language and saying that
we should assume we're strong. But I often need affirmation
and confirmation from other Black women to tell me that
I am strong because there's some sometimes I don't feel
like I am and sometimes I need somebody to tell
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me that I um And that feels really good when
it's coming from other black women and from other black
women who I know that I love specifically and and
close to specifically. And I think that there there are
like caveats to the statement like black women shouldn't be
told they're strong. Well, yes, and it's like a both
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and type of situation. They're some's just there. I think
everything is really like loaded like that too. I've had
discussions with some like professors who you know are like
so in sociology and a lot of black history, and
I've even heard from them just sort of like the
nature of the kneeling and how that is even viewed
for like from a historical context problematic to see that
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as like kneeling in front of the oppressor as a
form of protest has all of this historical context behind
it of the subordinate servant, uh and blowering themselves to
the master and things like that. So at every turn, right,
there's all everything. There's every there's so many dimensions to
the ways that we can either protest or find strength
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in our existence, but there's always this other historical backdrop
to it that I think everyone we always have to
be conscious of because there's all these roots, like to
the point of you know, this fallacy or this like
medically perpetuated myth that like yeah, black women we prescribe
less painkillers. Um, that that is all going back to
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this idea of you know, uh, the slavery and the
idea that these black bodies are used to create revenue
and are efficient at doing that, and that continues. Yeah,
let's just check in with the king. Let's check in
with the b K real quick. Um, there was a
video that came out with Mason whatever his the the
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Walmart yodeling boy. I believe that was him because there's
yodeling in this video, y and so he's out here yodling.
But we were so young, Yeah, I know, right, he's
out here, um yodeling his little butt off to like
a fun commercial talking about how you know, methane is
a huge, huge problem in terms of like our agriculture
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because cows are releasing a lot of methane, a greenhouse gas.
And the gist of it is sort of like, well,
Burger King knows methane bad, So what we're gonna do
is make a new burger that will solve the methane problem.
And you're gonna you're gonna be able to eat so
many burgers you you don't even know what to do. So, yes,
methane is a huge issue. Uh. And the logic of
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this Burger King campaign is that they are going to
offer low methane beef patties, meaning that by adding lemon
grass to the diets of like the cows, that they
can reduce the methane emissions by about one third. I
think on paper that sounds pretty interesting. I'm like, oh,
that's all I have to do. You can cut down
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methane missions by one third by just giving people are
these cows a little bits? Yeah? Go go on, Mason,
tell me more. Um. Now, there's a couple of things
about this. First of all, these beef patties are only
for a limited time and like, are only available in
a handful of cities, So if you don't live in Miami,
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New York, Austin, Portland, or l A, you're not gonna
see this ship. Even though this like campaign was meant
to be like burger King has solved the greenhouse gas
problems in our like with our red meat consumption. The
other thing was that the fart stuff, right, this whole
idea that you know, the farts are causing the methane,
that's actually not true. Many agricultural scientists and people who
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are like researching this, like this is so fucking lame,
this commercial because six of the methane actually comes from
their burbs uh, and not from their their manure comes
from manure uh. And this one scientist was saying, it's
not the cow farts. Nearly all ter methane from cattle
is from belching suggesting otherwise turns this serious climate topic
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into a joke. And it's it's funny how the commercials
really like they really want to talk about farts. Like
the commercial has like a that that kid going into
like a cow ass, Like it's like they are really
hyper focused on the farts. They want to make sure
that you got the like the farts are part of
the conversation. They definitely as someone's like when you at
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the context that it's not even really about the farts,
the farts not even the big problem, that becomes even
more weird. It's even more weird of a choice. I'm
absolutely I mean this this is just like a miss
on so many levels because it completely misunderstands what it
doesn't know what it's talking about. It's using this like
you know, kind of like irony poisoned aesthetic that was
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really popular five years ago to give this misinformation to everybody.
And it's not funny. I think that they think it's
funny and it's not. I just, oh god, I mean
these this trend of I feel like we've been talking
about this ony guys for years at this point of
like cool brand, It's like it's we the curtain has
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been pulled aside, like it's not funny, it's not cool,
And in this case, it's just like not even accurate.
The science, the scientific part of it is really fucking
just so lame. So you know, they're claiming they're like, yeah,
hundreds of fucking just a hundred grams of dried lemongrass
is reducing it by the methane emissions. So a lot
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of people who are looking at this like, Okay, can
I see your scientific receipts please? And here's where it
becomes a fucking issue. The study that they're sighting hasn't
even gone through any kind of peer review, which I
think is important because that's usually when your peers go,
what the fund is this? Bro? This is not no?
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Yeah yo, the not this bro, get go back um,
which you know is very important with any sort of
scientific study. So all the claims are relying on like
it was like I think a cooperative of study with
like a lab in Mexico and one in the US
that they're saying, oh, we're going off to the results
in the Mexican lab because the US part of this
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study when they concluded there is they said, quote the
research was inconclusive and so far showed no methane reduction
from lemon grass end quote. So like, okay, shut the funk, Okay,
don't talk about that part. Uh that, let's us get
away with this just like ridiculous claim. And you know,
I think while that's interesting to talk about methane, I
mean like there's like you know, there's like restorative agriculture
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that's used for raising cattle. That's like an actual way
to like look at how destructive that kind of uh,
this certain aspect of agriculture can be. But you know,
they make it a fart joke with the yodeling kid
and then it's just like kind of rich coming from
burger King too. I've just like, are you really going
to make this like standing on a pedestal style like
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we get it kind of joke when it's like no,
you're burger king like you've done fun. No, that's like
their m oh do you guys remember back in nineteen
when they had they released their real meals, so it
would be like instead of a happy meal, it's like
you get kissed meal or like yes meal. Like I
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think that yeah, Like I think that they often like
swing for the fences and I guess I kind of
I kind of like respect that, but often it's like,
you know where this goes based on this logic. So
if we had mental health last time, big swing on climate,
what's what's been one of the bigger stories this year
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in society that Burger King could wade the not racial justice,
I mean they might wade in the wall or racial justice.
Thank you Burger King. I know, like the like the
like um yeah, like the like they're gonna have like
burgers named after slain civil rights icons or something like.
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You don't have like, it doesn't always have to be
this cringe to be part of the conversation, a part
of the solution. It doesn't always have to be some
sort of like point top cringeing to your part campaign,
Stop trying to be part of the fucking conversation just
to be part of the fucking solution. I don't give
like this doesn't you wasted millions of dollars for what
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to just like get I don't know what that does
for your sales and in their minds like it's actually great,
like sort of like sort of earth restorative justice kind
of thing we can do with this. Why don't you
just commit to becoming carbon neutral as quickly as possible,
because it's not I mean, but again the cynicism of
like all this marketing and yeah, but it only ever
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results in negative blowback. But I guess that that just
end up being a second wave of you know, a
second press cycle for them is the fact that they
did it and the fact that everyone hates it. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
And I guess it's just like more greenwashing. This is
like what companies do they? There are there are things
like corporations have so much they can do to combat
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climate injustice, but it's so much easier to be like, oh,
we have a little campaign with the yodeling kid about
cow farts. Boom boom done. Hi, we're chlorox. We may
have destroyed the earth with our chemicals. Can we give
the Sierra Club a ridiculous donation so we can put
their logo on our new green products and then you
can completely forget what this company has been about since
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time in memorial like that kind of cynical it's do
you remember like when BP was coming with their greenwashing ads,
like right after the oil spill in the Gulf, I
was like, wow, we're really acting like you guys are
part okay, but that's I think for the most part though,
people look at what's going on the TV and take
that like a lot of this like marketings be like, okay,
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well that's the reality. I guess they're thinking about it,
so I don't have to and I can just can
just eat my Mason yodelburgers um, you know, and just
a pivot And it's not a it's not a real
bad tangent. But I thought Mason's career would be a
little bit further along than it is right now because
he came. He was you know. I think that's the thing.
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When you go viral real quick on Twitter, it's it's
hard to take that, you know, to the next level.
But worry about me. I hope Mason has good parents.
I don't. And every time I see Mason, there's just
kind of an I start to feel a little concerned
of like, is he okay? Are people looking out for him?
(31:22):
Making me do a Burger King commercial? He's like, he's
a little this is the thing he's doing that. I
was watching that show Biz Kids documentary. He's entering that
age where like he's he's losing his baby face and
is now becoming like a pubescent child. And that's when
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like the industry goes, oh, look bro, like calls back
when you grow in your face. Kid. You see what
happened with Frankie Munez from Malcolm in the Middle, Yeah,
pit you out. I hate to see it, but I
hope we'll see what happens to Mason Ramsey. You know,
it's how far he's come, how far he has come?
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Final bridget what's a myth? What's something people think is true?
And you're like, that's false, that's that's not's not true.
I'm gonna keep with my um celebrity sort of theme here,
And something that people think is true is that Monique
the comedian is that she's like a complainer that she like,
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you know, it's difficult, blah blah blah. But just today
she got a major win on her gender and racial
discrimination lawsuit. So I feel like the common idea about
the comedian Monique is that she I don't know, folks
remember this. This is something that like I remember quite well.
She spoke out when she got a Netflix special basically
that like she was offered a lot less for her
Netflix special and she alleged that it has to do
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with race and gender, and people were like, actually, she's
hard to work with, Actually, like she's unprofessional, And I
guess today a court that says otherwise, a court agreed
that she has that her case has merit. So that
is a myth that she is like just a difficult
black woman. Actually it sounds like she's got a point. Well,
I think that shows you, how, you know, in Trench,
these stereotypes are that very just reflexively accompanied like Netflix
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or they're you know, surrogates allies, and the business can go, well,
she's actually difficult to work with, and people go, oh, okay, right,
angry black woman. Who's who's probably making it really difficult
for people just they're just trying to do their jobs.
And if she was so angry, maybe we could come
to some kind of consensus. Yeah, it's just so fucking lazy.
So I'm glad that she's wait so wait, that there
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was a judgment made. I didn't I didn't realize there
was a movement on her legal case or that, or
did they try and get it dismissed or something. So
this was just yesterday. This is a Deadline article from
twenty hours ago. Netflix loses move to ax Monique sex
and racial discrimination suit over comedy special. So essentially it's
not it's it's it's an incremental win for her because
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Netflix was trying to have it thrown out and a
judge said, no, there's there's there's a case here to
be heard. Yeah, they just all she did was show
me what Amy Schumer got paid and what she got paid,
and I'm like, okay, sums up here. Even there, even
if you wanted to, the comparisons really hard, which is
something that like people getting specials like that should be doing.
Is like I mean you have like if male comics
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who are and white comics who are getting specials would
just be more forthcoming about like here's how much I
would pay. You don't lose anything by doing that, and
you're helping. Like it's just like how much did fucking
Chris d'eliah get paid for his piece of ship special?
Like almost certainly more, but he's a piece of ship
and then there's no financial transparency in that community. It's
(34:41):
just like that the stigma around that needs to stop
because yeah, like yeah, like I feel like in a
in a corporate zoom call, like your salary should be
like in your next to your name. Yeah, it's immediately accessible.
You're like, interesting, Okay, that's your title. Yeah, wouldn't I
thought you were worth that much just and I also
think that like the idea that you know, if you
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and I and Jamie, I would actually be raicurious to
here your thoughts as a comedian, as someone who was,
like you know, in this in the industry as well,
Like I feel like there is a stigma, as you said,
around getting offered something and then questioning or pushing back.
I feel like as marginalized people, as women, as people
of color. I feel like the the implication is that like,
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if Netflix is going to offer you a special, you
should have just taken it and shut up, but we
should like that doesn't do anything to protect you as
a creator, and it certainly doesn't do anything for the
creators who are coming, you know, coming after you, who
might not have as big of a profile as Monique.
And so I think it was I think it's good
that she in public is saying, like it's okay for
me to ask questions about how I am being compensated.
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Another good example is like the woman the show runner
behind the show the HBO show I may destroy you.
It was it was really there was a great piece. Yeah,
who was so phenomenally talented, but like there was a
piece about how that I was going to go to
Netflix and that she didn't want to, didn't want to,
you know, have a Netflix a deal with Netflix, because
she was like, it's not clear to me, you know
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how I'm going to be compensated, how it's going to
be treated. And I think we should normalize particularly marginalized
creators asking those questions and doing some in public and
feeling empowered to be like, well, wait, is this going
to be a good move for me? I don't have
to just say yes because Netflix comes knocking, Like I
can have some agency and push back and say I
know my word and I want to ask some questions
and I don't have to just be grateful because you
deigned to have me join your slate. That interview is
(36:30):
so fucking incredible, and like, I'm so glad that she
shared that anecdote too, because when she kept I mean,
I love how that anecdote ends where it's like she
keeps pushing on this uh Netflix exact, saying like why
can't I have a percentage of my own work? Like
what what is the point of that? And it is
kind of getting like a corporate deflection of like, oh, well,
it's really not that big of a deal. And so
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THEI Kayla Cole says like, well, if it's not that
big of a deal, then give me five percent of it,
knowing that they were going to keep saying no and
before like I think, doesn't it go that before she
you know, when MICHAELA. Cole is kind of like, I'm
not going to do this with Netflix, and the Netflix
executive on the phone, who was a woman, said good
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for you, like off the record, good for you. You're
doing the right thing. Click, like yeah, they know what
they're doing. Yes, and yah, we should keep pushing, keep asking.
A thing about that Innifloce that I like so much
is that she's like she has uh. One of her
negotiation tactics is just like continuing to ask questions even
when she already knows the answer, so that like to
(37:32):
get them to admit it. Like I just think that's
like we we have to normalize like asking these kinds
of questions and not being afraid to walk away and
not being afraid to ask them and not being afraid
to look ungrateful or look annoying or look whatever, like fine,
you think I'm annoying you, you're sick of email, and
you fine, be sick of it, but I'm gonna I'm
gonna get my money. It's like, yeah, it's a good
rhetorical strategy because you're saying I'm going to get them
(37:55):
to articulate that the reason they do it is probably
because of some kind of racist or massagy an mystic reasoning,
but they're going to couch it in this corporate speak.
But if you keep actually you know, examining it and
be like, well, can you actually explain that for that
for like at a certain point they're like, look, man,
the company just doesn't pay black people that way. Okay,
Like it's almost like that's what you know you're gonna get.
(38:15):
And then they can be like, okay, great, and because
of this, I am not interested in working with you.
Good day and that. But that that definitely changes the
tone versus what it is now, which is, you know,
we come for our scraps as creators and they're like, here,
I have a half half a chicken bone and that's
all you're gonna get because I have the infrastructure to
get your to make you famous. But no, you know,
(38:37):
it's it's about one's right, fighting for it's fair and
that and that whole you know, like mentality of like
being whatever quote unquote grateful for the opportunity of like
you can't ask any follow up questions or you are
a grateful towards this, right. Yeah, it's it's extremely manipulative.
But I mean, I don't know. I felt for it
for a long time. Sometimes I've yet to have an
(39:00):
opportunity to show that I haven't fallen for it, fallen
for you getting paid in exposure. Okay, see there, I'll
transport myself to Indiana. You can get me Twitter verified.
Oh no, okay, what about Instagram? Oh no, okay, okay,
all right, I'll check back in eight months. Okay, thank you.
It was a good experience. It was good experience. All right,
(39:23):
Let's let's take another quick break and we'll come back
to talk some other stuff after this and we're back.
What is something from your search history that is revealing
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about who you are? Oh? Man, Uh, I'm gonna be honest.
I thought about whether I should give you guys some
smoking mirrors, uh, and something amusing. These are troubled times.
But really this is a sad story. I got got uh,
I got really into the idea of falconry, and I
was like, that's a real thing, you know. Me and
(40:07):
me and my uh me and one of my close
friends were like, let's dream about what we'll do if
there's a world without a lockdown and you know, a
world to come back to. And we were like, fucking falcons, bro,
We're gonna be falcon people now. Uh So my search
history is pretty deep in uh, falconry. It's a thing
(40:28):
you can do. Uh. Turns out it's a little bit complicated. Yeah,
a little bit more more complicated than we thought it
would be. When we were a glove right right, you
can't even use a glove at home. You gotta get
it like a special glove. We took a pitch back
at Cracked from a falcon ore. Uh, somebody who's h
who falcons for living? Uh, and they were talking about
(40:52):
it's actually really fascinating, Like they use it for hunting.
They use the falcon like so anytime somebody makes the
argument like second uh second Amendment, like I need to
have my gun for hunting, Uh, you could be using
a falcon sir, which is way cooler, way more badass.
Just breed a bunch of full falcons or if you like,
(41:15):
I don't know what the term is, like a fleet
of owls because you know, like that one murder mystery
or like they thought maybe the owl got the woman
at the base of her skull and ship. We just
have these like al assassins and ship. Yeah, staircase, yeah exactly,
be a real who Done it? Here's why I'm not
going to be a falcon or sorry, Ben, I have
(41:36):
to have to retire after that. After that Who Done It?
For Miles show has peaked. Um. But yeah, the stats
I don't have them in front of me, but the
stats on uh, you know, the number of school mass
falcon ngs are are much lower than gun violence. So
(41:58):
those are just facts, Jack, And that's why I like
this show. That's right. I saw a guy like a falconer,
I know, I think l a f C the MLS team,
Like there's like a falcon or a hawk or someone
who was like part of the team. And I saw
the guy who's the handler, like walking through like the
concourse and like this like bar and the like while
he's talking the falcons like the wildest ship, like on
(42:20):
the table next to him. And it was funny because
the falconer didn't even flinch, and the woman he was
speaking to is like neck almost broke when she's like, oh,
I think and he was just bulldozing through it. I
was like, okay, the falcon's edge. Yeah, I gotta tell you, guys,
I gotta confess just real quick. Here's why I'm never
going to be a falconer. I got in over my head.
(42:41):
I got in too deep. I didn't order anything yet.
I'm not responsible for raising a falcon, thank god. Uh.
It turns out that there's a a way that people
falconers had to save some falcon species, and they basically
they invented a very specific type of hat and they
(43:03):
would have the falcon bang the hat while someone was
wearing it to help the species reproduce. And I was like,
this is not this is not what I signed up for.
I'm just having sex with the hat, like sex like
the hat. Okay, yeah, let me what. I don't wait
(43:27):
that like weird, like the hood that keeps them like
blind until it's time to attack. No, it's a hat
that the falconer is wearing. It's like the falconer helmet.
The equivalent of a football helmet for falconers is a
hat that the falcon fus. Yeah, guine falconers real headbanging stuff.
(43:48):
Wow literally okay, so yeah, well I guess, you know,
to each their own. Um that's I wish I didn't
know that, but I'm now that we're there, I mean,
what do you do? Like, you can just leave it
in the hawk knows what time it is already. You're like,
is that the hat? Okay, thank you, come back in
five seconds, Like, I don't how does it work? Like it?
(44:11):
I think? Is that right? Yeah? Yeah, to wear the
hat and it fucks the hat head on your head.
You could. You can see videos and the people wearing
the hat like make falcon noises, like the equivalent of
falcon dirty talk, you know, and oh yeah, I got
a million missions literal skull fucking oh wow. Okay. Yeah.
(44:36):
So I'm just saying I I Am not going to
judge them. Far be it for me to get someone's
yum all respective falconers. It's just anybody skill. Anybody who
says yum, well that is happening needs to be put
in prison. Just getting there, getting their hat fucked by
a falcon and they utter the words, um, well, you're
being too simplistic. I'm saying um because I know that
(44:58):
hawk is going to catch so many the yummy mice later. Okay, cool, cool.
It seems like debasing, you know what I mean, like
at that point are you are you actually in control
of the falcon? But I mean the videos and the
falcons are all very pretty ricky about it, like they're
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really just like putting in like very smooth. Uh. They
put on a little R and B and just like
give give some dramatic Uh. No, I'm just joking. I'm
not watching the video. I never will. I know too.
It looks like the hat and and this one looks
(45:41):
like a croc they turned into a bucket hat. It's
like I think a training hat or something. Anyway, this
will be a whole other episode, will do. No. I mean, sorry, guys,
sorry that you can't do a search history that deserves
to be its own, like part series. All right, that's
(46:01):
gonna do it for this week's weekly Zeitgeist. Please like
and review the show. If you like the show, uh
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Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of The
Weekly Zeitgeist. Uh. These are some of our favorite segments
from this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment
last stravaganza. Uh yeah, So, without further ado, here is
(00:22):
the Weekly Zeitgeist. Really uh, Eves, what is something that
you think is underrated? Hm? So I had to think
really hard about this. Um, But I think that's saying
I don't know is underrated. Um, this is big. This
has been a new trend yet. Yeah. Yeah, I think
it is. And and obviously it's really true that there
(00:45):
is a world of info like at our availability that
we have a media access to, Like that's definitely true.
A Google is a click away, like we have all
of that at our hands. And I feel very fortunate,
you know, to be able to look up whatever I
want to, including exercise induced or to carry it. Um,
to figure that out. But I think that when you know,
(01:09):
it's definitely important when it comes to when we're uninformed
on something like being able to say I don't know,
it's just I don't know. I mean it feels kind
of freeing in a way where it's like I do
I would say that I feel a lot of the
time the pressure to know everything because I know that
I do have all of that information at my fingertips.
But I also think in a larger way in a scope,
(01:30):
just saying I don't know, it's kind of freeing because
there's so much that there is uncertainty around right now
when it comes to the future, like and I think
about that specifically around abolition, Like we have we have
a lot of ideas about what we want to work,
how we want it to work, the kind of future
that we want to build, and the kind of world
that we want to see. Um. But I think that
(01:51):
there is something very valuable in being able to say
I don't know around I have no fucking idea if
those ideas are going to work, I have no idea
how long they'll take to or I have like, I
have no idea of what I'm saying right now is
the right thing, if it's the wrong thing, if we
want to put things in the binary like that. But
I think that there is a way in which, yeah,
saying I don't know around specific issues right now is
(02:13):
so important because there are so many people fucking talking
who don't need to be, And then there's so many
people's voices who who need to be hurt that people
aren't listening to and yeah, um, like making sure that
those voices are uplifted is important and saying I don't know,
but it's also envisioning is being able to envision and
being able to assume risk, which I think obviously as
(02:34):
black people, I and if I can speak for the collective,
we are so risk averse for so many important reasons.
You know, we want to survive and we want to thrive.
But I think that saying I don't know, it's like,
you know, we can open ourselves up to risk, and
we can open ourselves up to uncertainty, and that's so
that like that's okay, that can be okay, and we
(02:55):
can tell ourselves that that that's okay because right now
we have a lot of information that we do know
that we don't want. Uh. And in a way there's
comfort and saying like, well, I know how this system
is operating already, all that data has been there's centuries
worth the data and on top of it, to your
point of the idea, especially around a lot of racial justice,
like this has been a field of academia for decades, uh,
(03:19):
and there have been many people putting their life's work
into these into you know, theorizing these things and uh
and investigating them and trying to figure out what is
a tangible way to dismantle these systems of oppression. And
but then, and I've said I think I said this
very earlier on, that's where there's another layer of racism,
that this form of academia runs into another like form
(03:42):
of gate keeping about sort of like what are these
black and brown people are gonna tell me about how
the justice system and there's things get held up and
we don't know that message doesn't reach the people it
needs to at you know, I think at the moment
they needed. And now I think with a lot of
this renewed enthusiasm or new and musiasm from new people
who are joining this movement, yeah, it really is important
(04:04):
to say, hey, you don't have to commit. No one's
asking you to come in here a fully formed ally
who knows every dimension of oppression and how to just
like dismantle it. The first thing is that you show
your enthusiasm for it. You're and then you're all open.
You are open to hearing things and you are open
to learning new things, just like everybody else is because
I think the way we get to where we are
(04:25):
is at a certain point, motherfucker's go already know everything,
So I don't need to keep I know what's best.
I will keep going down this path and just funding
the police and law enforcement and let the budgets keep
getting bigger and bigger and bigger, and you know, no
support for social safety nets, etcetera. Uh for sure. Yeah.
And I think that we often operate in the way
where we say we don't know so easily. Like we
we care a lot about science and about the parameters
(04:49):
that happen around science and know that it is a
thing that it's infinitely changing, and we know that that's
the foundation of science is something that will never know everything.
And the reason that we have science and that we
have experimentation and that we have continued with learning is
because we know we don't know everything. And like, just
applying that to this, I thought, what, everything can't tell
(05:11):
me anything new. I already heard everything. I've already seen
every episode of Law and Order. So conversation is over. Yeah,
And I think what's also interesting too is, you know,
smart people especially I think, actually have the hardest time
saying they don't know anything, especially if your self perception
is like oh, people come to me for information or
I'm I've been told, I've been of like I'm sharp
(05:33):
or whatever. I find that that is a thing, even
for me, like I found, you know, through years of therapy,
being able to be able to say, yeah, I don't
know that even though like you have. I know, for
me personally as a child, like trying to know everything
or get good grades, like started a habit of like
trying to know everything, but it didn't give me to
the healthy place of like actually the pursuit of knowledge
(05:55):
and wisdom, which is to then put your ego in
the fucking trash and say, bring me all of the
information so I could just blow my mind open. Yeah,
I feel like, oh no, I was just gonna say, yeah,
I agree with m I was like, I want to
say that I'm totally implicated in that as well, and
thinking like I'm a black woman, I know about blackness,
and like, you know, my experience is mine and really
(06:16):
getting caught up in my singular perspective and like really
having to unlearn and learn things in terms of like okay,
I'm staying from my specific worldview a transperson's life a
black life is nothing like my black life is. And
a person who is like from a different part of Georgia, like,
even if it's that small um than I am because
(06:36):
I grew up in the suburbs of Atlanta, like their
life is going to be very different than mine, even
if they're a black woman as well, and just like
snapping myself out of that. M Yeah, I've I've felt that, like,
and I wonder if it is connected to like how
we are programmed to learn in America, where I think
that there are times where if you don't know something
(06:59):
and someone tells you like that's not right, or like
I don't think you understand what is being said here,
that there is like a tendency to take that very
like personally and be like, what, I don't know something?
You know, It's like there is a tendency to take
it personally. I've felt that in in the past as well,
and it's like just unlearning that mentality of like if
(07:20):
someone tells you that you don't like first of all,
if you're not able to say you don't know something
and you get it wrong, like you have to not
make it this like battle of the ego to just say, oh, okay,
I'm listening, um, which a lot of people true is
for sure. I mean, yeah, that's just the I think
that's the other thing, too, is that it's so much
(07:43):
it's a lot harder actually to say you don't know,
but it's actually the best thing you can do. I
think you know that actually is a demonstration of higher aptitude,
because you can learn anything the second someone tells it
to you. But it's hard to put that ship aside
and say I don't know what you're talking about? Would
you mind telling you about that? I think can be,
(08:03):
you know, depending on how you look at yourself, a
difficult thing, especially when it comes to the politics and
people's identities. Repped m boy, What is something you think
is underrated? Okay, honestly, I think the damaging or delatorious
effects the callousness of people on social media. And I
never thought I would be a hardcore advocating for something
(08:26):
like this. I'm not a mental health expert or something.
I know probably talked about it on Daily Zeitgeist. But
the Kanye West presidential bid, for example, like the guy's
actually filing paperwork. You can see it. He's filed for
Oklahoma and stuff and people are you know, I think
we easily forget that's uh, even celebrities or whatever, real people.
(08:49):
I think it's like we have to remember we don't
know these people, and it's it's very close to shooting
on someone with mental illness. I get it roast people.
I'm all a roast everybody at some point, but I
think that we're not giving due deference to the fact
that these are real people at the other end of
(09:09):
the hands. So that's me making up for the falcon
fucking hat. Yeah, I mean, well, now that's we have.
I mean it's clear he is uh in a state
of distress, like he that that clip of him in
South Carolina whatever that rally or stumps whatever you want
to call that. It was really um unsettling, like it was.
(09:31):
It was kind of upsetting to see because he was
sort of all over the place and you could tell
based on the way he was talking, was almost as
if everyone was telling him to not go and he
was like, no, I know what's best for me. Don't
tell me what to do, because he's like, if Kim
divorces me for doing this, I don't care. And it's
like that almost sounds like she may have said, please,
don't do this, or you're putting our marriage at risk,
(09:52):
and he still went out and did it. And that's
the other sort of toxic scited. The equation is like
on one hand, people look at and they're like, wow,
it's the TV because I've been you know, sort of
inoculated with this idea, this message that like to be
a celebrity means like the perfect existence where everything is
manicured and like, you know, stresses of the world don't
reach you. But then we lose our ability to just
(10:12):
look at him and say, this man is in he's
like in pain. And it could also be that there
are many people around him who are not really taking
that seriously and just want to keep this thing going,
like of being around him and saying like enabling him,
and there's a lot of talk to that he's seriously
like there he's going to seriously put a lot of
his businesses in jeopardy too with this um the whole
(10:36):
campaign and everything with it. What is something from your
search history that's revealing about who you are? I recently
looked up Public Access TV. Yeah, a project I'm working on,
and I forgot the particulars of public access TV. But
it was so important to not just society, but I
(10:59):
guess to me too, just like watching weird stuff on
public access TV was part of how I spent most
of my free time when I was a kid. Um,
anybody could be a TV host. Anybody could could sign
up and have studio time and cameras and be put
on television. It reminds me somewhat of of being on
(11:20):
a podcast. Uhbody could do it. Uh no, just but
but seriously, like I missed public access TV. I miss
that you could get perspectives from outsiders where people weren't
necessarily trying to be just famous or follow trends. Because
public SSTV shows existed in a bubble where there was
(11:40):
no commentary, there was no feedback. It was just like,
I'm gonna make this thing because it seems good to me,
but nobody could like immediately instantly tell you you suck
with your TV show came out, So a lot of people,
you know that ended up being successful and doing cool
things started on public access TV. M Green's TV show
(12:01):
was on public Access TV. And I don't know how
people feel about Tom Green, but I mean he's a
big deal for me when I was a kid, I
thought he was hilarious. Some of the hardest laughs I
I had at a very developmental period of my life. Yeah,
I remember my mother just really realizing something was wrong
with me because she's like, there's just ship on a
microphone and that's funny to you. And I'm like, but
(12:23):
he's just putting it in their face and he's not
saying you did you think about it? And nothing made
me a laugh partner than when he sent the cow's
head to his parents. Uh, the statue that he put
on his parents lawn of his dead hitting his mom
probably wouldn't fly these days. But the other thing I remember,
like in public Access was sort of like the way
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I saw like some like raw like adult content that
you could not really find anywhere else, and it took
like you know, older kids would be like, I don't
know if you watch public access, man, but like it
goes down late at night and you can see a
titty if you try hard enough. Yeah, Like it was
that was like the I remember the Promised Land. At first,
when I was even engaging with it, it was like
that's like the dark web of content basically. Yeah, it
(13:09):
was like YouTube before YouTube for people. I'm sure there's
a lot of our younger listeners who don't even realize
like what we're talking about, but for a long time
they're like Channel three. I think where I where I
lived was public access and it was just you know,
video tapes. I remember once I saw uh and watched
(13:29):
the entirety of a slasher movie made by people with
absolutely no experience, and uh, it was a blast. I
would get my stalker content or slasher content anywhere I could, um,
But the Channel three, because where I grew up, Channel
three was the channel had to be on to play
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Super Nintendo Yes, yeah, or the VCR or something. It
was eiven three or four. Yeah. I don't know why. Yeah,
it changed based on like I guess maybe some some
are has kept one channel sacred, Like there's no Channel
three in the l A market, so that was ours
because four was NBC. But I'm guessing other places three
was a channel four was anyway. Yeah, No, three was
(14:10):
definitely my channel for the bc R And that actually
shows how poorly thought out everything was back in the eighties,
because you'd think that Channel three would have been like
a really hot one to get because people would go
to turn it on that channel to watch a movie
on the BCR and like be you know, there's just
a lot of traffic going through that station. But instead
(14:31):
it was always like public access and just bullshit. Um,
so bad job by you, Cable. What is what's something
you think is underrated? Underrated? Well? You know, um again
trying to to start with the lighter stuff. I'm I
prefer to to start off with the what's overrated things? Right? Yeah, yeah,
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so you know something that I think is overrated? Maybe
this is a little controversial, right, but mmmm, I would
say sharing a bed with your spouse on a nightly basis.
Like when you say something like that, automatically your thought
is like, uh, you know, what's what's wrong? What's going
on there? You guys doing yes? Yes, yes, I say
(15:20):
I say no no, no, no no. Totally on the contrary, um,
you know, having your own space, um, and being able
to say, look, I'm more I love you very much,
but I also need really need a good night's sleep,
and you know I'm going to take it. As you know,
maybe one of you is a night owl and the
other one is a morning person, or maybe one of
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you wakes up in the middle of the night and
has some brilliant idea, has to turn on the lights
and you know, jot it down. Yeah, I keep waiting
for that to happen. That's only a movie's monica. Yeah,
it's yet to happen to me. Um but but but yeah, no,
I think it. It's and this, this is something I
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want to talk to talk about a little hopefully in
the show. Is these gender roles that that that we
that we play and how we can um redefine them.
And you know, it's nice to have on a daily basis,
your own you know, I'm going to take a step
further and not just say, you know, you should have
your own bed, but you should have your own bedroom
if you know, if you can, if you're not living
(16:21):
in New York or San Francisco where you can barely
afford a studio, your own space, right, Yeah, you have
your own It's you know, it's about having your own space,
having some independence. Um and uh and and yeah, I
think that strengthens you as a person, and it strengthens
you as a in a relationship, and you have a
better night's sleep. And if that doesn't mean you can't
(16:43):
like have sleepovers and visit and such, so it makes
it a lot more fun. Yeah, yeah, that's the bed.
I totally understand because, uh, you know, my partner, her majesty,
she likes to have pets in the bed, and I'm like, a,
I don't like to inconvenience people. So I sleep very
like in a very thin sliver of the bed because
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I don't want to wake her up. Then I'm like,
I don't want to. I don't want to wake my
pets up. I don't know why I'm going there's thought
you were going to say that you sleep in the
dog create I'm working on my great training right now.
But yeah, like so from that point I realized too,
I'm like, you know what, I'm gonna sleep somewhere else
because that way, like you can get down and I
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don't have to feel bad about not disturbing anyone and
get my own night's sleep because I think everyone has
different sleep styles. I sleep next to a sprawler and
I'm very much like the it's just so weird, Like
I don't advocate from my my own sleep when I'm
in bed because I'm like, but the other person sleep,
and then you gotta you gotta take care of yourself,
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even that means getting awake night bed for a little bit.
A good night's sleep is crucial. It'll make everybody happier.
I say, give it, give it a try, Give it
a try. My two year old was up at two
in the morning until four in the morning this morning,
so I did not get a good night's sleep, and
I have witnessed my brain malfunctioning, like I'll see the
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wrong word coming out of my mouth as I'm as
I'm speaking. So I yeah, just a fair word of
warning there um that I'm about to show you the
value of a good night's sleep in the negative. Playing
(18:28):
musical beds is also also an option, especially when you've
got kids. All right, guys, let's take a quick break
and we'll be right back. And we are back eaves.
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What is a myth? What is something that people think
is true you know, to be false or vice versa.
So I don't know if this is an overall myth,
but it's something that it's a sentiment that I've been
seeing a lot lately on the Internet that's been floating around,
and that's that black women shouldn't be told or don't
need to be told that we're strong um, And I
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definitely understand the sentiment because it's coming from a place
where so often our oppressors specifically are the ones who
are telling us that, like, we don't experience pain, and
that's in a very established way, you know, when that
comes to UM, the medical industry, UM just always saying that,
and I know so many of us have had personal experiences,
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but saying that are we don't experience pain, that we're strong,
that we're tough, that we can make it through this,
that we can make it through that there's the superhuman stereotype, uh,
that we can do all of that. And I think
that yes, in that manner, like our oppressors don't need
to tell us that we're strong because if we take
it contextually, we know their intention behind that, and we
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know that so long, what public health has meant for
black women and black people in general is death. Like
public health equal death when it came to black people.
So UM, I think, yes, all of that is true.
And I just wanted to preface it with that because
obviously that's the case. And I also can't speak for
anyone specific black woman wanting or not wanting to be
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told that she's strong because that's her preference and it's
up to her, and it's it's that's one how that
makes her feel. But I can't speak for myself and
that I want. I want black women to tell me
that I'm strong because I feel like in a way
telling telling black women that are saying that we shouldn't
be told that we're strong is kind of affirming the
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idea that we are by by nature strong, like it's
affirming the it's affirming the oppressor's language and saying that
we should assume we're strong. But I often need affirmation
and confirmation from other Black women to tell me that
I am strong because there's some sometimes I don't feel
like I am and sometimes I need somebody to tell
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me that I um And that feels really good when
it's coming from other black women and from other black
women who I know that I love specifically and and
close to specifically. And I think that there there are
like caveats to the statement like black women shouldn't be
told they're strong. Well, yes, and it's like a both
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and type of situation. They're some's just there. I think
everything is really like loaded like that too. I've had
discussions with some like professors who you know are like
so in sociology and a lot of black history, and
I've even heard from them just sort of like the
nature of the kneeling and how that is even viewed
for like from a historical context problematic to see that
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as like kneeling in front of the oppressor as a
form of protest has all of this historical context behind
it of the subordinate servant, uh and blowering themselves to
the master and things like that. So at every turn, right,
there's all everything. There's every there's so many dimensions to
the ways that we can either protest or find strength
(22:03):
in our existence, but there's always this other historical backdrop
to it that I think everyone we always have to
be conscious of because there's all these roots, like to
the point of you know, this fallacy or this like
medically perpetuated myth that like yeah, black women we prescribe
less painkillers. Um, that that is all going back to
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this idea of you know, uh, the slavery and the
idea that these black bodies are used to create revenue
and are efficient at doing that, and that continues. Yeah,
let's just check in with the king. Let's check in
with the b K real quick. Um, there was a
video that came out with Mason whatever his the the
(22:46):
Walmart yodeling boy. I believe that was him because there's
yodeling in this video, y and so he's out here yodling.
But we were so young, Yeah, I know, right, he's
out here, um yodeling his little butt off to like
a fun commercial talking about how you know, methane is
a huge, huge problem in terms of like our agriculture
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because cows are releasing a lot of methane, a greenhouse gas.
And the gist of it is sort of like, well,
Burger King knows methane bad, So what we're gonna do
is make a new burger that will solve the methane problem.
And you're gonna you're gonna be able to eat so
many burgers you you don't even know what to do. So, yes,
methane is a huge issue. Uh. And the logic of
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this Burger King campaign is that they are going to
offer low methane beef patties, meaning that by adding lemon
grass to the diets of like the cows, that they
can reduce the methane emissions by about one third. I
think on paper that sounds pretty interesting. I'm like, oh,
that's all I have to do. You can cut down
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methane missions by one third by just giving people are
these cows a little bits? Yeah? Go go on, Mason,
tell me more. Um. Now, there's a couple of things
about this. First of all, these beef patties are only
for a limited time and like, are only available in
a handful of cities, So if you don't live in Miami,
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New York, Austin, Portland, or l A, you're not gonna
see this ship. Even though this like campaign was meant
to be like burger King has solved the greenhouse gas
problems in our like with our red meat consumption. The
other thing was that the fart stuff, right, this whole
idea that you know, the farts are causing the methane,
that's actually not true. Many agricultural scientists and people who
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are like researching this, like this is so fucking lame,
this commercial because six of the methane actually comes from
their burbs uh, and not from their their manure comes
from manure uh. And this one scientist was saying, it's
not the cow farts. Nearly all ter methane from cattle
is from belching suggesting otherwise turns this serious climate topic
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into a joke. And it's it's funny how the commercials
really like they really want to talk about farts. Like
the commercial has like a that that kid going into
like a cow ass, Like it's like they are really
hyper focused on the farts. They want to make sure
that you got the like the farts are part of
the conversation. They definitely as someone's like when you at
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the context that it's not even really about the farts,
the farts not even the big problem, that becomes even
more weird. It's even more weird of a choice. I'm
absolutely I mean this this is just like a miss
on so many levels because it completely misunderstands what it
doesn't know what it's talking about. It's using this like
you know, kind of like irony poisoned aesthetic that was
(25:42):
really popular five years ago to give this misinformation to everybody.
And it's not funny. I think that they think it's
funny and it's not. I just, oh god, I mean
these this trend of I feel like we've been talking
about this ony guys for years at this point of
like cool brand, It's like it's we the curtain has
(26:05):
been pulled aside, like it's not funny, it's not cool,
And in this case, it's just like not even accurate.
The science, the scientific part of it is really fucking
just so lame. So you know, they're claiming they're like, yeah,
hundreds of fucking just a hundred grams of dried lemongrass
is reducing it by the methane emissions. So a lot
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of people who are looking at this like, Okay, can
I see your scientific receipts please? And here's where it
becomes a fucking issue. The study that they're sighting hasn't
even gone through any kind of peer review, which I
think is important because that's usually when your peers go,
what the fund is this? Bro? This is not no?
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Yeah yo, the not this bro, get go back um,
which you know is very important with any sort of
scientific study. So all the claims are relying on like
it was like I think a cooperative of study with
like a lab in Mexico and one in the US
that they're saying, oh, we're going off to the results
in the Mexican lab because the US part of this
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study when they concluded there is they said, quote the
research was inconclusive and so far showed no methane reduction
from lemon grass end quote. So like, okay, shut the funk, Okay,
don't talk about that part. Uh that, let's us get
away with this just like ridiculous claim. And you know,
I think while that's interesting to talk about methane, I
mean like there's like you know, there's like restorative agriculture
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that's used for raising cattle. That's like an actual way
to like look at how destructive that kind of uh,
this certain aspect of agriculture can be. But you know,
they make it a fart joke with the yodeling kid
and then it's just like kind of rich coming from
burger King too. I've just like, are you really going
to make this like standing on a pedestal style like
(27:52):
we get it kind of joke when it's like no,
you're burger king like you've done fun. No, that's like
their m oh do you guys remember back in nineteen
when they had they released their real meals, so it
would be like instead of a happy meal, it's like
you get kissed meal or like yes meal. Like I
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think that yeah, Like I think that they often like
swing for the fences and I guess I kind of
I kind of like respect that, but often it's like,
you know where this goes based on this logic. So
if we had mental health last time, big swing on climate,
what's what's been one of the bigger stories this year
(28:34):
in society that Burger King could wade the not racial justice,
I mean they might wade in the wall or racial justice.
Thank you Burger King. I know, like the like the
like um yeah, like the like they're gonna have like
burgers named after slain civil rights icons or something like.
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You don't have like, it doesn't always have to be
this cringe to be part of the conversation, a part
of the solution. It doesn't always have to be some
sort of like point top cringeing to your part campaign,
Stop trying to be part of the fucking conversation just
to be part of the fucking solution. I don't give
like this doesn't you wasted millions of dollars for what
(29:16):
to just like get I don't know what that does
for your sales and in their minds like it's actually great,
like sort of like sort of earth restorative justice kind
of thing we can do with this. Why don't you
just commit to becoming carbon neutral as quickly as possible,
because it's not I mean, but again the cynicism of
like all this marketing and yeah, but it only ever
(29:38):
results in negative blowback. But I guess that that just
end up being a second wave of you know, a
second press cycle for them is the fact that they
did it and the fact that everyone hates it. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
And I guess it's just like more greenwashing. This is
like what companies do they? There are there are things
like corporations have so much they can do to combat
(29:58):
climate injustice, but it's so much easier to be like, oh,
we have a little campaign with the yodeling kid about
cow farts. Boom boom done. Hi, we're chlorox. We may
have destroyed the earth with our chemicals. Can we give
the Sierra Club a ridiculous donation so we can put
their logo on our new green products and then you
can completely forget what this company has been about since
(30:19):
time in memorial like that kind of cynical it's do
you remember like when BP was coming with their greenwashing ads,
like right after the oil spill in the Gulf, I
was like, wow, we're really acting like you guys are
part okay, but that's I think for the most part though,
people look at what's going on the TV and take
that like a lot of this like marketings be like, okay,
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well that's the reality. I guess they're thinking about it,
so I don't have to and I can just can
just eat my Mason yodelburgers um, you know, and just
a pivot And it's not a it's not a real
bad tangent. But I thought Mason's career would be a
little bit further along than it is right now because
he came. He was you know. I think that's the thing.
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When you go viral real quick on Twitter, it's it's
hard to take that, you know, to the next level.
But worry about me. I hope Mason has good parents.
I don't. And every time I see Mason, there's just
kind of an I start to feel a little concerned
of like, is he okay? Are people looking out for him?
(31:22):
Making me do a Burger King commercial? He's like, he's
a little this is the thing he's doing that. I
was watching that show Biz Kids documentary. He's entering that
age where like he's he's losing his baby face and
is now becoming like a pubescent child. And that's when
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like the industry goes, oh, look bro, like calls back
when you grow in your face. Kid. You see what
happened with Frankie Munez from Malcolm in the Middle, Yeah,
pit you out. I hate to see it, but I
hope we'll see what happens to Mason Ramsey. You know,
it's how far he's come, how far he has come?
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Final bridget what's a myth? What's something people think is true?
And you're like, that's false, that's that's not's not true.
I'm gonna keep with my um celebrity sort of theme here,
And something that people think is true is that Monique
the comedian is that she's like a complainer that she like,
(32:27):
you know, it's difficult, blah blah blah. But just today
she got a major win on her gender and racial
discrimination lawsuit. So I feel like the common idea about
the comedian Monique is that she I don't know, folks
remember this. This is something that like I remember quite well.
She spoke out when she got a Netflix special basically
that like she was offered a lot less for her
Netflix special and she alleged that it has to do
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with race and gender, and people were like, actually, she's
hard to work with, Actually, like she's unprofessional, And I
guess today a court that says otherwise, a court agreed
that she has that her case has merit. So that
is a myth that she is like just a difficult
black woman. Actually it sounds like she's got a point. Well,
I think that shows you, how, you know, in Trench,
these stereotypes are that very just reflexively accompanied like Netflix
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or they're you know, surrogates allies, and the business can go, well,
she's actually difficult to work with, and people go, oh, okay, right,
angry black woman. Who's who's probably making it really difficult
for people just they're just trying to do their jobs.
And if she was so angry, maybe we could come
to some kind of consensus. Yeah, it's just so fucking lazy.
So I'm glad that she's wait so wait, that there
(33:33):
was a judgment made. I didn't I didn't realize there
was a movement on her legal case or that, or
did they try and get it dismissed or something. So
this was just yesterday. This is a Deadline article from
twenty hours ago. Netflix loses move to ax Monique sex
and racial discrimination suit over comedy special. So essentially it's
not it's it's it's an incremental win for her because
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Netflix was trying to have it thrown out and a
judge said, no, there's there's there's a case here to
be heard. Yeah, they just all she did was show
me what Amy Schumer got paid and what she got paid,
and I'm like, okay, sums up here. Even there, even
if you wanted to, the comparisons really hard, which is
something that like people getting specials like that should be doing.
Is like I mean you have like if male comics
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who are and white comics who are getting specials would
just be more forthcoming about like here's how much I
would pay. You don't lose anything by doing that, and
you're helping. Like it's just like how much did fucking
Chris d'eliah get paid for his piece of ship special?
Like almost certainly more, but he's a piece of ship
and then there's no financial transparency in that community. It's
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just like that the stigma around that needs to stop
because yeah, like yeah, like I feel like in a
in a corporate zoom call, like your salary should be
like in your next to your name. Yeah, it's immediately accessible.
You're like, interesting, Okay, that's your title. Yeah, wouldn't I
thought you were worth that much just and I also
think that like the idea that you know, if you
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and I and Jamie, I would actually be raicurious to
here your thoughts as a comedian, as someone who was,
like you know, in this in the industry as well,
Like I feel like there is a stigma, as you said,
around getting offered something and then questioning or pushing back.
I feel like as marginalized people, as women, as people
of color. I feel like the the implication is that like,
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if Netflix is going to offer you a special, you
should have just taken it and shut up, but we
should like that doesn't do anything to protect you as
a creator, and it certainly doesn't do anything for the
creators who are coming, you know, coming after you, who
might not have as big of a profile as Monique.
And so I think it was I think it's good
that she in public is saying, like it's okay for
me to ask questions about how I am being compensated.
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Another good example is like the woman the show runner
behind the show the HBO show I may destroy you.
It was it was really there was a great piece. Yeah,
who was so phenomenally talented, but like there was a
piece about how that I was going to go to
Netflix and that she didn't want to, didn't want to,
you know, have a Netflix a deal with Netflix, because
she was like, it's not clear to me, you know
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how I'm going to be compensated, how it's going to
be treated. And I think we should normalize particularly marginalized
creators asking those questions and doing some in public and
feeling empowered to be like, well, wait, is this going
to be a good move for me? I don't have
to just say yes because Netflix comes knocking, Like I
can have some agency and push back and say I
know my word and I want to ask some questions
and I don't have to just be grateful because you
deigned to have me join your slate. That interview is
(36:30):
so fucking incredible, and like, I'm so glad that she
shared that anecdote too, because when she kept I mean,
I love how that anecdote ends where it's like she
keeps pushing on this uh Netflix exact, saying like why
can't I have a percentage of my own work? Like
what what is the point of that? And it is
kind of getting like a corporate deflection of like, oh, well,
it's really not that big of a deal. And so
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THEI Kayla Cole says like, well, if it's not that
big of a deal, then give me five percent of it,
knowing that they were going to keep saying no and
before like I think, doesn't it go that before she
you know, when MICHAELA. Cole is kind of like, I'm
not going to do this with Netflix, and the Netflix
executive on the phone, who was a woman, said good
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for you, like off the record, good for you. You're
doing the right thing. Click, like yeah, they know what
they're doing. Yes, and yah, we should keep pushing, keep asking.
A thing about that Innifloce that I like so much
is that she's like she has uh. One of her
negotiation tactics is just like continuing to ask questions even
when she already knows the answer, so that like to
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get them to admit it. Like I just think that's
like we we have to normalize like asking these kinds
of questions and not being afraid to walk away and
not being afraid to ask them and not being afraid
to look ungrateful or look annoying or look whatever, like fine,
you think I'm annoying you, you're sick of email, and
you fine, be sick of it, but I'm gonna I'm
gonna get my money. It's like, yeah, it's a good
rhetorical strategy because you're saying I'm going to get them
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to articulate that the reason they do it is probably
because of some kind of racist or massagy an mystic reasoning,
but they're going to couch it in this corporate speak.
But if you keep actually you know, examining it and
be like, well, can you actually explain that for that
for like at a certain point they're like, look, man,
the company just doesn't pay black people that way. Okay,
Like it's almost like that's what you know you're gonna get.
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And then they can be like, okay, great, and because
of this, I am not interested in working with you.
Good day and that. But that that definitely changes the
tone versus what it is now, which is, you know,
we come for our scraps as creators and they're like, here,
I have a half half a chicken bone and that's
all you're gonna get because I have the infrastructure to
get your to make you famous. But no, you know,
(38:37):
it's it's about one's right, fighting for it's fair and
that and that whole you know, like mentality of like
being whatever quote unquote grateful for the opportunity of like
you can't ask any follow up questions or you are
a grateful towards this, right. Yeah, it's it's extremely manipulative.
But I mean, I don't know. I felt for it
for a long time. Sometimes I've yet to have an
(39:00):
opportunity to show that I haven't fallen for it, fallen
for you getting paid in exposure. Okay, see there, I'll
transport myself to Indiana. You can get me Twitter verified.
Oh no, okay, what about Instagram? Oh no, okay, okay,
all right, I'll check back in eight months. Okay, thank you.
It was a good experience. It was good experience. All right,
(39:23):
Let's let's take another quick break and we'll come back
to talk some other stuff after this and we're back.
What is something from your search history that is revealing
(39:45):
about who you are? Oh? Man, Uh, I'm gonna be honest.
I thought about whether I should give you guys some
smoking mirrors, uh, and something amusing. These are troubled times.
But really this is a sad story. I got got uh,
I got really into the idea of falconry, and I
was like, that's a real thing, you know. Me and
(40:07):
me and my uh me and one of my close
friends were like, let's dream about what we'll do if
there's a world without a lockdown and you know, a
world to come back to. And we were like, fucking falcons, bro,
We're gonna be falcon people now. Uh So my search
history is pretty deep in uh, falconry. It's a thing
(40:28):
you can do. Uh. Turns out it's a little bit complicated. Yeah,
a little bit more more complicated than we thought it
would be. When we were a glove right right, you
can't even use a glove at home. You gotta get
it like a special glove. We took a pitch back
at Cracked from a falcon ore. Uh, somebody who's h
who falcons for living? Uh, and they were talking about
(40:52):
it's actually really fascinating, Like they use it for hunting.
They use the falcon like so anytime somebody makes the
argument like second uh second Amendment, like I need to
have my gun for hunting, Uh, you could be using
a falcon sir, which is way cooler, way more badass.
Just breed a bunch of full falcons or if you like,
(41:15):
I don't know what the term is, like a fleet
of owls because you know, like that one murder mystery
or like they thought maybe the owl got the woman
at the base of her skull and ship. We just
have these like al assassins and ship. Yeah, staircase, yeah exactly,
be a real who Done it? Here's why I'm not
going to be a falcon or sorry, Ben, I have
(41:36):
to have to retire after that. After that Who Done It?
For Miles show has peaked. Um. But yeah, the stats
I don't have them in front of me, but the
stats on uh, you know, the number of school mass
falcon ngs are are much lower than gun violence. So
(41:58):
those are just facts, Jack, And that's why I like
this show. That's right. I saw a guy like a falconer,
I know, I think l a f C the MLS team,
Like there's like a falcon or a hawk or someone
who was like part of the team. And I saw
the guy who's the handler, like walking through like the
concourse and like this like bar and the like while
he's talking the falcons like the wildest ship, like on
(42:20):
the table next to him. And it was funny because
the falconer didn't even flinch, and the woman he was
speaking to is like neck almost broke when she's like, oh,
I think and he was just bulldozing through it. I
was like, okay, the falcon's edge. Yeah, I gotta tell you, guys,
I gotta confess just real quick. Here's why I'm never
going to be a falconer. I got in over my head.
(42:41):
I got in too deep. I didn't order anything yet.
I'm not responsible for raising a falcon, thank god. Uh.
It turns out that there's a a way that people
falconers had to save some falcon species, and they basically
they invented a very specific type of hat and they
(43:03):
would have the falcon bang the hat while someone was
wearing it to help the species reproduce. And I was like,
this is not this is not what I signed up for.
I'm just having sex with the hat, like sex like
the hat. Okay, yeah, let me what. I don't wait
(43:27):
that like weird, like the hood that keeps them like
blind until it's time to attack. No, it's a hat
that the falconer is wearing. It's like the falconer helmet.
The equivalent of a football helmet for falconers is a
hat that the falcon fus. Yeah, guine falconers real headbanging stuff.
(43:48):
Wow literally okay, so yeah, well I guess, you know,
to each their own. Um that's I wish I didn't
know that, but I'm now that we're there, I mean,
what do you do? Like, you can just leave it
in the hawk knows what time it is already. You're like,
is that the hat? Okay, thank you, come back in
five seconds, Like, I don't how does it work? Like it?
(44:11):
I think? Is that right? Yeah? Yeah, to wear the
hat and it fucks the hat head on your head.
You could. You can see videos and the people wearing
the hat like make falcon noises, like the equivalent of
falcon dirty talk, you know, and oh yeah, I got
a million missions literal skull fucking oh wow. Okay. Yeah.
(44:36):
So I'm just saying I I Am not going to
judge them. Far be it for me to get someone's
yum all respective falconers. It's just anybody skill. Anybody who
says yum, well that is happening needs to be put
in prison. Just getting there, getting their hat fucked by
a falcon and they utter the words, um, well, you're
being too simplistic. I'm saying um because I know that
(44:58):
hawk is going to catch so many the yummy mice later. Okay, cool, cool.
It seems like debasing, you know what I mean, like
at that point are you are you actually in control
of the falcon? But I mean the videos and the
falcons are all very pretty ricky about it, like they're
(45:20):
really just like putting in like very smooth. Uh. They
put on a little R and B and just like
give give some dramatic Uh. No, I'm just joking. I'm
not watching the video. I never will. I know too.
It looks like the hat and and this one looks
(45:41):
like a croc they turned into a bucket hat. It's
like I think a training hat or something. Anyway, this
will be a whole other episode, will do. No. I mean, sorry, guys,
sorry that you can't do a search history that deserves
to be its own, like part series. All right, that's
(46:01):
gonna do it for this week's weekly Zeitgeist. Please like
and review the show. If you like the show, uh
means the world to Miles. He needs your validation, folks.
I hope you're having a great weekend and I will
talk to you Monday. By a spot
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