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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of The
Weekly Zeitgeist. Uh These are some of our favorite segments
from this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment
laugh stravaganza. Uh yeah, So, without further ado, here is
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the Weekly Zeitgeist. Really well, we are throwed to be
joined in our third seat by the hilarious and talented
Kyle Air. Thank you, thank you. You know it's Christie.
I'm a Gucci Maine. That's art. That name is art. Yeah,
it's I mean, I would expect no less from that.
I would be so happy that I will wouldn't do
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anything the rest of that day. I've done, I've done
some stuff that he persists. The hustle. You gotta admire it.
How is your week? How is that Super Bowl for you? Kyle?
Oh it's bad, you know, as far as like one
isolated game. I'm Chiefs fans. Remember it was fun to
answer the question does football have to be a team sport?
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We all got to answer it, and it turns out, yeah,
you need a team because can one man do it? No?
Will that stop him from trying? Absolutely not. Man. That
was like as bad as that game was for the Chiefs,
like just some of the throws he was making, uh
Patrick mahomes like as he was like there there was
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one throw. You know, he was just running around for
his life behind the line of scrimmage. But he was
like making throws like with his head like almost on
the greatest ever seen. And it sounds dumb to be like,
what a great incomplete but had he had that were dropped,
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that's what the most always straining parts. Hit a man
in the face mask in the end zone while throwing
the ball while he's parallel to the ground. Had he
caught that, the highlights still would have kind of disappeared
because they lost. But I don't think it's hyperbole for
me to say that might been the greatest throw I've
ever seen in my life. And it doesn't matter because
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you know how like you always hear like like the
best This the funniest thing that's ever been said was
probably not during a stand up show. The greatest basketball
shot that's ever been made was probably a backyard horse shot.
None of us saw that was the greatest throw I've
ever seen in my life, and it got dropped. It
hit a dude in the face, It was hit a
guy in the face, hitting people in the hands and
the face mask and they were dropping it. It is
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like if all of the catchable balls he threw had
been caught, I don't know that you guys would have
lost the game. Maybe goes in a different path. Too
many things went wrong to say that, Like, there were
a lot of bad penalties that I disagreed with for
the first quarter and a half, but then they did
not have an offensive line, which you need, you need. Yeah,
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it felt like have you ever played a video game
against someone who knew the buttons right? This is like
if I've never played Madden, but I picked the best team,
I'm gonna get some weird plays by just hitting you
know what I mean? What's going on? That's kind of
what it felt like, and it was not fun to watch,
but I'm still you try and keep things in perspective.
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Sports fandom is such a bizarre thing if you think
about it, like it's a reality show. I've been watching
my whole life, and they finally rewarded my character last
year after thirty years of them not you know, Susan
Lucci Emmy win. It felt more like the Peter Otool
Oscar win where we were a hundred and forty years
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in and they were like, he might not be here
next year, and so this is I still have to
be like I could. I can't believe that guy's the
quarterback of the team I watched. He's the most fun.
Kansas City has never had the most fun player in
any sport. Now they have Steph Curry, which is like
he's probably the best, and he's by far the most fun. Yeah. Absolutely,
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So I just gotta be happy to be there. I'm
just I am tired of Tom Brady and that's not
even his fault, well it is, but a negative thing
to him. What is something you think is underrated? Okay? Good?
Both of these are in honor of the twenty one
anniversary of Jim Varney's death. I'm gonna say underrated, Ernest
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scared stupid, Okay, overrated. Ernest saves Christmas, and I love
Christmas and Christmas movies, but I don't know, it's not
I think I think, honestly, maybe Earnest Goes to Jail
would be the my favorite. But Christmas gets a lot
of shine, and I feel like Halloween really is earnest
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true holiday, and that's scared stupid as a Halloween Philip
that's the one, like the Pumpkin cover. I just know
every Earnest film just had Jim Varney just given that
full like I grin. I can't imagine um how delicately
they handled the carceol system of the United States in
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their analysis to the Ernest Goes to Jail prism from
the year. This is why I think it needs more
credit because Ernest, across all of his properties, you would
think would would go a little bit more racist, and
he doesn't like at any point. No, yeah, that is true.
I feel like that was the thing that my first
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assumption about a like Earnest thing because I'm like, hey,
I'm like, you talk like the scary people from the
movies my grandpa shows me right right, and then you're like,
oh wait these are more kid friend, then you really
like he's like he was like a good guy, right, Yeah,
he's a really he was a very good guy. Yeah,
and like pretty diverse casting and yeah, he just never
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goes this like sort of ignorant hillbilly route that he
could have. Uh but yeah, all right, pee man, Yeah
I missed. That's an amazing story that that started as
a radio advertisement and then yeah, it's really crazy is
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he He was like the local commercial guy. It seemed like,
so he was advertising like a million different places, like
in these small towns because you're just like, oh, you
want a commercial, get Earnest. He's the commercial guys. So
you know you could be like dueling pizza restaurants have
the same guy in their commercial essentially because he just
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had such a good idea, I should I should do
this for the neighborhood restaurants, commercial bucks, just some food. Yeah.
I wonder like if there's a someone has an archive
of the Jim Varney local adsumentary that needs to be
made there on a Latimore on YouTube on YouTube, okay,
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because I'm curiously see like what because it's such a
specific flavor, because like the whole hey vern thing was
him breaking the fourth wall? Wasn't it like about like
Verne was the person on the other side of the camera,
wasn't it Verne was all of us smiles. Oh my,
Verne is like really stupid, Like he's way dumber than Earnest.
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So yeah, as a kid, you're like, I guess I'm verned,
I'm burned, I'm Verne. Was Verne? Did we ever meet
Verne in the films. I mean you see his hands
and stuff like he you know, he's like Claw from
Inspector Gadget. It's like a very dumb version of Claw,
you know what I mean. Verne, Yeah, he trademarked that thing. Yeah,
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shout out to him. Uh and and the Earnest films,
which none of which I saw for some reason that
missed me. Um So I need to I need to
do my work. I'm yeah, I'm interious to see because
it's funny that I know. The last thing, the last
Jim Varney thing I sought out to watch was the
Beverly Hill Billies. Right, it was like two years ago.
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A lot of people's like introduction to him and then
they were like, oh, he's got all these other right, yeah,
but in the South, you know, it was a superstar
for him. He's like Killer Bees. Do you guys know
that comedian? Oh no, I thought you were talking about
the actual phenomenon of Southern comedian name Killer Bees. And
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his tagline is save up, you better save up. It
is just like solid conservative financial advice pretty much. Wait,
what did Killer Bees look like? Did he dress like him? Like?
He had to have dressed in black and yellow? Right? No,
he just looks like an old white guy. I don't know,
he's really funny. I can't. I didn't. Killer Bees is
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just the comedian's name. Yeah, it's pretty tight, right, Like
he's not a rapper, he's b E A Z Killer Bees. Okay,
I mean that's that is like one of those nicknames
that like, yeah, that that's his name is like bees,
his last name is Bees something. They're like, hey, it's
killer Bees. Hey it's true. At S. Beasley Jr. Just
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started killing so hard people started calling killer Bees. Oh yeah, yeah,
that dude crushes. Yeah. They say it stemmed from an
incident in his childhood where a friend went into anaphylactic
shock after a series of beastings. Beasley then threw his
epinephrin pen into the river. Uh, and then his friend died,
giving him the name Killer Bees. Up. I'll leeg you.
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I just made that up on a joke podcast. Okay.
That was so it was, Oh, that's amazing for anybody who,
like I was confused why they thought they could make
a TV show out of the Geiko cave Man. They
trying to recreate the magic of earnest, you know, just
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that that's but that's the next level. That's the next
level talent. I mean it's also hot. Kind of a
hot young dude. Uh back in the day, like obviously, Oh,
I think he's very attractive. Oh yeah, when he was unverned,
You're like, okay, Jim Varney, Yeah, exactly what I said. Yeah,
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there's a young there's a picture of him as a
young man, just like, you know, making love to the camera,
uh and through his eye, not literally, just like you know,
he's given the camera look. That's like, damn. When I
knew was vern were a yeah, I wish we were burned.
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Vern Verne always kept his hands visible, so we know
he wasn't touching. Yeah, we were talking about Mike, but
we were talking about the fact that the Wiggles keep
give the thumbs up and all their pictures because they
want uh people, the parents to know that their hands
are not up to any shenanigans. They're not doing anything,
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which is important. Yeah, good policy. Winger around children constantly
for a living, right and then just any and like
and just there will always anything that could look improper untoward.
You never want to be in a situation where you're like, no,
I I just had my hand in my pocket and
they're like, we don't know, buddy, yeah, and you're like, okay,
this is why I do this all the time. Now.
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It's always thumbs up, Like, but what's in their palms? Yeah? Exactly?
What is something you think is underrated? So I I think?
I I asked this morning while I was eating breakfast.
I asked my girlfriend both underrated and what are things
I think are underrating? Overrated? She goes, oh, you think
everything's overrated? And I was like, okay, what's something I
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think I was underrated? She goes, oh, you think everything
is underrated. It's like, I can't be both. And then
I was like, give me a specific example of either.
She goes, I can't think of any and I was like,
this sounds like a youth thing. That sounds like something
that projecting on to me. No details, But I think
comedy acting is so underrated, yes, actual art form. I
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think that acting in a comedy is hard, and I
think it is underrated because people are like, look at
the funny person being funny, I think, and I will
I say to this day often. Rachel McAdams deserved an
OSCAR nomination for Mean Girls, and there are ten equivalent
performances every ten years in comedy that no one else
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could do. It's so funny too, because it's it's even
the thing that actors acknowledge is harder than the thing
they're constantly like lauded for. You know, when people are like,
oh my god, the dramatic forms like I'm gonna be
honest with do comedy is way harder than It's so
much harder to be funny than it is to pretend
to be Lyndon Johnson or whatever. It's actually hard to
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pretend to be Lyndon Johnson and that not be funny.
As since he was about the new movie Lyndon b laughing,
he did use his aids as a pis screens. Yeah,
just like those calls. I mean, how do you do
with a straight faced say bung hole like he does,
and like try and while being sworn in? Had that
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delivered while being sworn in with Jackie standing right there,
bung hole. I'm just saying it's a funny word. Faithfully
execute the duties of this office upon my bung hole
has this entire suit pulled up over the top of
his head like Beavis Cornelio. Cornelio pulled up over his head.
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That dude is one of my Like, uh, Daniel O'Brien
from Cracked and now last week Tonight used to uh
talk about like just there's all these wild stories behind
the scenes. He would make reporters do interviews with him
while he was pooping on the toilet, like because it
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was like a power move of something sort um. He
would show people his what he called big jumbo because
I guess he had a big a big penis. He
exposed himself a lot to people. Yeah, tons, Uh what
am I? Why am I surprised at someone who runs
the United States isn't also flashing their dick. Imagine running
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a country because a guy died and not having a
weird ego exactly and then being like, well he left
me with a fucking mess up a country right now? Well,
I mean that's assuming that he had nothing to do
with it, which now you've seen the picture. Why was
he ever smiling? Um? The he's like looking at looking
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over JFK Like, uh, but sorry, I distracted from your point.
I think is a really good one. The like it's
definitely harder to pull off and like in the case
of Rachel McAdams, like that is a more lasting performance
than any dramatic performance from that year, like culturally impactful.
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Uh sorry, my son is Ramsey or take he's He's
been honestly laying on the ground and like stage yawning
during like every time I talk just being oh man, um,
oh man, you're on that one again. But it's all
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just about how like that's a youth like the audience
thing wanting to feel when when they won't nominate any
comedy movies for Oscars, that's just because the Academy voters
watching it want to feel like they're doing something serious
and therefore like it's them. It's it has nothing to
do with like the actual power or cultural impact or
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feels like uh jet, you're right, it is jealousy. I
will say that I don't I don't know what comedies
came out the year Manchester by the Sea came out,
but I bet they're a bunch of comedians who are
good at being funny and can look like sad sex
as ship and so I think that I Nope, I
don't know much about Casey Affleck. I don't care to
learn anything more about him, and I think he's been
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better in other movies. But that movie was just a
guy being sad, and he it's and his version of
sad was being quiet, and so he want to Oscar
because uh cinematographer was good at making him look sad. Yeah, yeah,
give me, give me Bill Murray and groundhog Day, which
is comedic and dramatic. Give me Rachel McAdams and Mean Girls.
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Give me everyone in Bridesmaids. I don't know, Will Ferrell
probably should have want to Oscar Francor Man. We're still
talking about it, and no one else could have done
it like that. It's people just don't value it as
as an art form. But then if they when they
try and do it, they look a fool or they're
just yeahs like using a baseball glove for cleanup, Like
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I'll take that over Manchruster by the city. Yeah, And
I wonder if it's you know, like they they're like
you're saying, Jack, Like they can't really acknowledge how significant
comedy is to culture and like how how much of
a lasting impression that leaves on the audience, Like more
people quote you know, not that it's I'm saying this
needs to get an academy where, but more people will
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quote dumb and dumber then fucking saving Private Ryan or
something like that. Like there's there's something about comedy that,
like it really uplifts us and like we can draw
upon something positive just like with a recollection of it.
And granted, of course, like dramatic acting is an art
form in and of itself as well, but art form right,
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and it's also wild. Yeah, Like so to not hold
them up and be able to say, like it's like
the Grammys saying like the only music is classical music. Yeah, yeah, exactly, No,
you idiot, what are you talking about? Like people turn
up to all this other I don't know if we
need to just do like oscars need to do what
the Golden Globes do. But then generally the Golden Globes
gives the best comedic or musical performance to whatever is
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the most dramatic thing that pretends to be a comedy
or something. Yeah yeah, the most dramatic movie that also
made us laugh this year. I also wonder if there's
something changing because like, uh not, to keep harkening back
to Cracked, I have cracked on my brain. But the
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first podcast we did on for the Cracked podcast was
about like how um comedy like ages poorly compared to drama,
and like old comedy movies aren't really funny anymore, except
for like the Marx Brothers, because they went town to
town and just like honed these jokes that were like funny,
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irrelevant of what town they were doing it in. Um.
I I just wonder if, like now, it seems like
things have, like we still think Anchorman is funny. I
don't know, you guys are younger than me, but like
it seems like people fewer I think. I do think
that fewer comedies hold up over long term than dramas
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that do. And I think even fewer dramas hold up
than like an action like die Hard is so old
at this point by movie standards and feels like a
movie that could have come out a year ago, but
comedies from that year. There's like a Naked Gun sequel,
which has probably kind of funny, but doesn't. I just
you know, it doesn't hold up as much as these
other things. So it seems to be like this, the
couple of comedies for most years that hold up, whether
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it's like Groundhog Day or Airplane or movies like that
that they'll hold up for a while, but I kind
of think blockbusters tend to hold up the best. We
still watch Jurassic Park, you know, everything that is an
avatar will still go back and watch Jaws. I think
is often cited as one of the movies that holds
up the best, and that's a whole Another gripe that
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I have is, uh, you know who, we don't acknowledge
that these movies that influence ulture more than anything else
should get any sort of nomination for this stuff, let
alone stunt people in movies, let alone acknowledging that computers
helped make movies. Now, Academy Awards could be so much
more fun. Yeah, it feels like the Major League Baseball
of of of Awards comind where like the MTV Movie
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Awards got it right where they would get super specifically
like wow, this fucking fight scene and then it actually
gave you something like really, you're like actually comparing like
from Blade two. I'm like, okay, let's like watch this
fight scene and trying to even I remember watching the
ship and like talking to my friends like you really
thought that was better from Matrix? Okay? What okay, Like
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just make some more awards. I don't know what John
Wick getting nominated for nothing. We all talked about it
for four years, right, yeah, exactly, Yeah, But I guess
that's where it's like, what, Yeah, I wonder if if
the Academy can take itself a little less seriously and
understand that, like film itself is something much larger than
like the people who call themselves the Academy can take
themselves less seriously. It's you're talking about a bunch of
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people who work in something they call the industry, and
I say they I'm part of that the industry. Maybe
doctors should be the industry that poison our brains, like
you think, because like also too, you look at a
movie like Crash, that one best picture in two thousand six,
that motherfucker doesn't hold up at of course. I mean
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for people who had half a brain in two thousand six,
you're like, are y'all seeing this? And then that you're like, okay,
so white people are in charge of everything, and like
it was hitting a little ally cord. So people like, oh,
they're so good, it's so good, so good. Yeah, yeah,
they would never make that mistake again two years ago
with Green Book. I mean, how I would be so
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much more Like they keep talking about like people aren't
as interested in the oscars anymore. Like if they just
did an award that was the best uh special effect
in movie, in any movie, and you just got to
see like how they did it, I would love that.
That would be so fun, like because they do that
with like they have the like behind the scenes costuming
and like all these things they do to honor those arts.
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But like I don't know that would be behind the
scene because you know what I feel. I feel like
we lost like we sort of lost the magic of
filmmaking too, because we don't see as much behind the
scenes stuff. I remember, like on HBO, part of the
whole marketing thing would be a fifteen minute behind inside
look at the making of a film that was coming
out and you get to see like them between takes,
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the technology being used in that. For me as a child,
like anything that was behind the scenes anything always had
my imagination going even further because I'm like, oh, wow,
like this is how you do it. These are jobs
you could have this, that and the other. And I
think because like with that content being less there, it's
like we're just focusing like the actors more and really think,
like the one thing you do is be pretty in
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front of camera and talk like the other. You always
hear stories about how those behind the scenes are what
prompted so and so to become a filmmaker or so
and so to get every time you ever see any
visual effects person there, Like, I saw a ten minute
behind the scenes about how a head exploded an evil
dead and I wanted to do this and now I'm
and I'm that's beautiful. The credits are so long, right, yeah,
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the credits are so long. All right, let's take a
quick break and we will be right back. And we're back.
We are thrilled to be joined in our third seat
by the brilliant, the talented Tests Lynch. Hello, you're back.
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Thank you for having me. Also, your son is so cute.
High Ray gonna say hi to Test and Joel Hi
Captain Joel. Yeah every time. Uh, Test, How have you
been What have you been up to? Oh my god, nothing,
I've been up to nothing. Um. Just like everybody else,
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I my main like story arc over the past ten
months or whatever. We UM. I had a podcast with
my friends Molly and Emily, and since we ended that podcast,
I have just been doing nothing. I know. Boo yes
boother we ended it the podcast was yea uh, but
I've been mostly sitting in my backyard with my kids
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while my neighbors um have been playing the Billy Jewel
album The Stranger, and it's it's taken up my entire
brain for that. However, Lost for a while has Yeah,
it's started in March, and it's at least once a week,
and they play The Stranger in its entirety, usually on
Friday nights, but they'll mix it up now. I mean,
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over the past three weeks they've played it maybe three
times a week and sometimes at random times of day.
And it's never you're never the whole album though, Jack
the whole album It's leaving Scenes from an Italian Restaurant
is the best song on that album. Yeah, I'm never
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not in the mood for that one. But I mean
then they're you know, there's a lot at the end,
the final song, which I like, forget the title. It's
also it's it's not super loud, so it's just enough
that it like makes you feel a certain way. But
sometimes you can't even like identify it. Sometimes they'll play
it super quietly and you're just like, why do I
feel like there's like a weird New York City jazz
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kind of vibe in the air, and they, ah, it's
the stranger Yeah, moving Out, Yeah, they incible Anthony song,
but you know what, it doesn't hold up as well
after like thirty plays moving Out. Moving Out was one
of my top ten Billy Joel songs, and now too,
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I'm like digging into the you know Later catalog just
to balance it out. So I'm doing like I go
to extremes, keeping the faith? Yeah. Yeah. Do you ever
find yourself just accidentally going into like like, hey, could
you turn that back to Anthony's song? Sorry, guys, I'm
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Anthony now Joel. What are you gonna say? Just that
I'm really sorry they're ruining like some of my favorite
Billy Jwel songs are on this album, like Vienna. It's great,
like Jams, And I feel like it's unfair that they
are ruining it for you, But I'm glad that you
have found a way to bring a balance to your
Billy Jewel dysmography. Also, do you think after a year
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they're gonna get tired of it? Is there any like
slowing down of the progression of their listening? No, it's
picking up it's picking up and they'll add other things
like it's book ended. It's often like they book ended
um Elton John might be a lead in E l
O might follow, but there's variation there, you know, it's
a strange anger remains the same UM. But I do
have to say I like Vienna also, and it's you know,
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I mostly associated with thirteen going on thirty where it's
employed to great effect. But it inspired an episode of Taxi.
I did not know this, yeah, and it's in the Wikipedia,
and I was like, oh, now I should like go
back and watch that episode of Taxi. But then I
was like, no, I've had enough. I don't need to
do this to myself. Degrees by j Yeah, totally take
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over someone's life with by just playing a Billy Joel
album over over. It is a method of control, absolutely
psychologically at war with your neighbors. See gang helpful hints
here for you just start playing that album. It's torture,
it is. But have you ever thought about how like
sometimes you look in the mirror and the person looking
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back is a stranger to you. The stranger is yourself. Yeah,
like we're all like we all and this is gonna
blow your mind. But it's all it's almost like we
all wear masks sometimes. Oh man, but that does seem
pathological At this point, I don't think they're going to
be like, yeah, okay, we've had enough. It seems like
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it's no. Now it's a whole. Now it's a lifestyle.
It went from like a fun thing to like, now
it's a joke, and now it's like we were jumping
the shark and now it's just an earnest commitment. Yeah,
there's no turning back. We'll speaking to of white supremacy.
Let's talk about the uh, you know, long term trend
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but recently even more troubling trend of anti Asian racism
in America. Um. Yeah, there's you know, I hate crime
that happened recently in the Bay Area. Uh, and it's
part of a broader trend to uh, Asian American actors
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got involved with, um, you know, offering a reward to
solve the case and like, so it's finally getting some attention.
But this has been a long term issue. It's it's
just anti anti Asian racism is really it's wild of
being black and Japanese American. Like I've it's weird to
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kind of reconcile what it means to even be American,
like looking through the lens lenses of the collective experiences
of like Asian Americans and African Americans. Um, you know, obviously,
like we had been saying at the beginning of the pandemic,
when motherfucker's are out here calling ship wuhan flew or
China virus, that racist rhetoric was just helping to laser
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focus all that hatred into what we're now seeings like
just record year of hate crimes against Asian Americans. And
you know, it's nothing new, but it occupies a very
unique blind spot in American society and media, just because
especially through like the evolution of like the the model minority,
the Asian model minority that was was emerging in like
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the middle of the last century. But like you know,
well we kind of have to start at the gold
Rush because you kind of gotta see, you're not gonna understand,
like you can't understand anti black racism. We're not talking
about slavery, right, So you can't talk you can't understand
anti Asian racism without understanding the beginnings of immigration from
from Asia into into America. So in the beginning the
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gold Rush. Okay, that's when it all kicked off. Everybody
was trying to get to California in the forties and
fifties to fucking strike gold. That was one of the
first significant influxes of Asian immigrants and Chinese people specifically,
they were about one fourth of the miners during the
gold Rush. But obviously because you have a white majority
or dominant class, they looked at these perceived intruders and
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started engaging in violent, terroristic acts of racism to base
to oust them from the mining, and that relegated a
lot of these Chinese immigrants to lower wage jobs, which
is the l road and farming and things like that.
And then then slowly they began codifying these into like
Chinese Exclusion Act and saying, you know what you can
if you want to kick a motherfucker out because they're Chinese,
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go to do you, honey, because this is a law now.
And that sort of momentum evolved. So once there was
a smaller population of uh Chinese workers to work farms
and things like that, the Japanese came in and that
was the next and then that's the next group who Okay,
they're gonna work the farms, Like damn. They did a
lot with all that little bit, and now they're starting
to succeed a little bit. Okay, well, now we need
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new laws to kind of make ship hot for them.
And then Filipino Americans came in, and they liked that
better because Filipinos were part of a country that was
annexed by the United States and felt like there was
a little bit more of a parallel crossover to work
in the United States from the Philippines. So all this
like moment, it's it's been happening since, you know, the
beginnings of of Asian immigration, and that essentially leads to
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fucking what we saw during World War Two. Japanese people,
Japanese Americans literal early put in concentration camps for years
because of Pearl Harbor. Yet Italian and German Americans you know,
do your thing, you know what I mean, because because
you're white, um, and that's just how that's just how
it goes out here. So it's just like this, you know,
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looking through all of this, you're like, it's always a
thing that has existed, but we don't teach it, so
we don't really think of it as a huge part
of our American cultural history. But it's also like this
evolution of like the model minority in the sixties because
a lot of people were pointing at Asian Americans who
are succeeding as a way to sort of funk up
the dialogue or conversation around the pursuit of civil rights
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for black people, because they're like, well, these Japanese people
are like they have their own businesses and are going
to colleges and they're doing so well, like minorities are
able to succeed in this country. Like as this count
fucked up counterpoint, and I think that has also led
to this very weird, you know, monolithic perception of what
an Asian American person is, which is typically like, oh,
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there are people who can make money, who are maybe
uh achieving hot higher levels demographically academically or higher incomes.
So it also like what that also does, is it
it sort of erases the nuance of what the Asian
American community looks like. It's like Nepalese Americans face all
kinds of high levels of of poverty and unemployment, same
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with Hmong people. Like it's it's not just Chinese, Japanese
and Indian Americans, which I think everyone's just like see
Asians are good, They're good. You see them, their doctors
they got and so it when we have all these
acts of racism, it's it's not quite registering for people,
like it's like, oh, oh, that's awful, but it's not
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sort of I don't think seen as the same uh
level of violence or the sheer terror it causes for
a community because of these other examples, it's not part
of the narrative of what the experiences for an Asian
American person. So I mean when you look at like
what's happening, especially with in the Bay Area, Um, you
know in San Francisco, eighty four year old man from Thailand,
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he died after being attacked on his morning walk. There
was an Oakland a few people in Chinatown and Oakland
there we're getting shoved, attacked, robbed. You know that people
were taking cash out for Lunar New Year. So people
were like they're gonna get got Like that's just the
thing people were thinking. Because people have are walking around
with more cash. Um, and all of this is still
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happening even when you look at what's happening like in
our schools, because there is this report that came out,
um that like Asian American Pacific Islander students in California
were the group that were most likely to experience bullying.
And on top of it, uh, like a majority of
students when they were talking about what kind of racist
rhetoric is normalized, it seemed to be that a surprising
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amount of students are like, it seems like Asian jokes
are like, are not as offensive even though it's the
same territory of it as a racial joke. Um, so
we're having to have this real reckoning with what it
what this what the conversation has been between America and
Asian Americans because no one is actually I think because
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for me, I wasn't taught about any of this ship
in school and I grew up in California. It took
my parents to be like, do you what what you
said in the gold Rush? What they're saying about Asian people?
Huh what that they like to do laundry? Yeah, okay, No,
But I'm saying like, because we don't have these uh,
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real conversations about our history, our history as a nation.
For the mistreatment of any group, be it Indigenous people,
Latin x whoever, like we're only we're only doomed to
keep repeating these sort of things. And I feel like
it's really happening again right now because this isn't This
isn't it's not a conversation that's had enough about like
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observing anti Asian racism and what that means and what
everyone's part is in trying to come back that. Um
so yeah, it's there. Just seems to be better. I
think education too across minority groups, right, like because if
you want to take a look back and you you're
talking about the Japanese tournament camps, right I think it's
something I didn't even know until I was in college
and actually kind of like really diving deeper and studying
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different things. And one of the things that I studied
in college, I have a degree in Latin American history,
and one of the things that I had no idea
about until I literally took Latin American history was something
called the Brossero program. The Brossero program happened around the
nineteen forty ninety five, which is coincidentally the exact same
time that we are in turning Japanese Americans, who at
that time were the primary source of agricultural labor. So
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the United States government had to figure out a way
to pick all these crops because they had put people
in internment camps they were picking these crops. So what
they did is they made a deal with Mexico to
allow workers to come north to work for seasonal portions
of time, so sort of temporary ability to come in
and primarily up and down the state of California specifically.
So you also started seeing animosity between groups because you
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were seeing Mexican people coming in taking work from Asian jobs.
You have to kind of look at how all these
pieces sort of pattern and network together, you know, And
and it's important because the country, you know, our governments
have done the same thing to all of these groups.
Like you said, what we've seen with Native American people,
what we've seen with Asian people, what we've seen with Latinos,
what we've seen with black people, Like it's the same playbook,
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but it's done in a way that sort of silos
and makes these communities more wary of other communities and
other minorities and white people in general. And until we
start putting this together and really speaking openly and really
start leveraging and understanding that we need to speak up
as within our own racial groups and also as racial
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groups as a whole against the government. Like we're never
going to get anywhere. There has to be acknowledgement of
the stuff. There needs to be education. And that's one example.
There's been so many examples of that that basically our
institutionalized racism. And it's wild because even within communities, right
because even with my black cousins, I was Jackie Chance
and you know, I was Jetly or whatever, and but
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then I don't I'm I don't let my cup what
from my fani? What? Then am I gonna say, you know,
like it's it's love or whatever. But then you get older,
you gotta actually really like we actually have. It's so
casually said, there's never a checking of it's like, you're
not gonna reduce me to this one version of a
celebrity or whatever. You you're touchstone for Asian culture. Like
it's the same ship. Like if someone comes to human
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some white guy called this, oh hey, what's up Kobe
Bryant or some fucking dumb shit about whatever black celebrity,
it's the same ship, and I think, yeah, it's it's
it's just like over the summer where you know, I
found myself imploring people to check anti black racist talk
or any kind of fucking discriminatory language, that it has
(38:49):
to start within where you were at, because you don't
want people to think you're somebody who you can say
ship like that, or you can you can perpetuate these
kind of um discriminatory respect races, fucking racism called racism,
you know what I mean? Um so, and now it's
the same thing, but I think it's now it's like
do we have to keep pointing out it's like, okay,
so the summers for black anti black racism, for Asian
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awareness around anti Asian racism when it's like racism, yeah,
and it's not again and it's not it's not always
necessarily about white supremacy, but it can because it can
happen within groups that aren't white. But in terms of
understanding like what we're seeing, like we also have to know,
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like this country was also letting Americans know like we
don't really get a funk about Asian people, you know
what I mean? And that's the thing that taste is
historically still in the you know, sort of the back
of everyone's mouths, whether they know it or not. And
you know, and in that Bay Area, you know, where
the first you know, significant group of Asian immigrants are
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coming to We're still seeing this play out centuries later,
and I think that's what's important is and even in
the United States, we're still replaying the same things because
we're not actually taking the second to be like, I
can't believe we did that as a country, and we
really should have never done that. Acknowledgment. Yeah, don't try
(40:18):
to explain it, don't try to contextualize it, just acknowledgement
and reflection. Yes, this occurred, and no, that is not good.
It is how can we make sure this never happens again? Right? Yeah,
it took like the eighties for a congressional fucking committee
to be like, I think the Japanese internment program was
(40:39):
based on racial prejudice, Like God, but that's that's the
pace at which we have these mini reckonings that you know,
at the end don't seem to have the effects that
we need them to the I mean, it does go
back to white supremacy because like even you know, if no,
no matter what group you are that's being discriminated against,
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like it's impossible not to let that poison like seep
in let that lie. Yeah, I mean I meant that,
not that it's like obviously internalized white supremacy, but not
to say that this is only occurring with white people
against whoever, you know what I mean. So, yeah, from colonialism, right,
exact concept of coming here and that now that there
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was a white person from a European country, that oh,
now we have brought civility, you know what I mean,
and and shooting any native cultures that are there to
begin with, right, and it just gets replaced. It just
gets replaced. It just gets replaced. The way is the
Germans were treated like the the go to villain of
history because they are, you know, the they symbolize evil, right,
(41:51):
like the German Nazis. The way German Nazis were treated
in pow camps. There's a pow camp in Alabama where
they were treated like a part of the community, welcomed
into the community. Uh naz POWs, you know, after the fact,
like actual like people who had roles within the Nazi
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government and the Nazi war effort were welcomed into the
US government like that. It's they make sure that you
can't miss the message. You know, it's it's like, well, yeah,
they were on some funk shoot a couple of years ago,
but they're going to help us make big bang bangs now,
so you know all is all is forgiven. But yeah,
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it's it's I I didn't really even realize, you know,
like that even California, right that groups of kids who
are most likely to experienced that were Asian American, Like,
it's yeah, And I think that's really indicative of the
work that still has to be done, because that's what
you're seeing. If if that's happening in schools now, this
ship is not going away for at least fifty years,
(42:57):
you know what I mean, Like that's you and if so,
we have to act. Actually, we have to do all
this work now to ensure a better future for ever.
You know, we might see it, we might see a
glimpse of it, but at least we got to do
something to let leave something good for the next generations
to come along and not have to deal with this ship.
All right, Let's take a quick break and we will
be right back and we're back. What is something from
(43:29):
your search history that's revealing about who you are? Honestly,
let's take a look I don't even know. I can't
even tell you. Oh gosh, what you know what? The
last thing that I searched was disposal and recycling because
I live in an unincorporated county. So I need to
(43:50):
figure out how the hell you get rid of trash
when the city doesn't come and get it. Because I've
never done that before. I'm a city girl. I'm used
to like they there's a trash can and they come
and right out here. They're like, yeah, you're gonna have
to figure that out. So I gotta I need a
line on the trash hustle out here. Man. I was
looking at various places. I need someone to come and
get my get my trash. What what are the rates
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like when you got a high you gotta come. That's
what I want to find out. I have no idea.
I'm thinking, like, I don't know. In l A, it
was like seventy bucks a month for trash. So I
figured truck, Yeah, you ran a truck once a month
and take to take the trash in. Yo. You know what, Jack,
you might be on some ship. I need to slip
(44:32):
this around. Why am I paying someone to pick up
my trash when I could buy a truck and get
your hustle and then I get free trash and you
learn all kinds of weird ship about them because you
go through the trash. Thank you drive that sick ass truck?
Are you kidding? Me? Me on yellow all day? That's
my new favorite color. Going through the trash thing is
(44:53):
like a cliche and spy movies and ship and like
eighties movies had people going through other people's trash like
when they were trying to find stuff out about them,
but that is like real deal, like they actually that's
like the way to find out ship must Yeah, does
that mean that all of the homeless people who go
through trash in Los Angeles are secretly CIA agents? Say?
(45:17):
You said ever know? You never know? I was watching
that Um the Devil Next Store about a dude who
has suspected in Cleveland and like the late seventies early eighties,
is suspected of being Ivan the Terrible, like the one
of the prison camp cars. Yeah, and like his defense
(45:41):
just like starts getting all these documents from one of
the committees that's investigating him. And it was just somebody
going through their trash like outside of a New York
building and they were like Yeah, we taped this together.
We have all these documents and that holds up in court.
Apparently you threw it out right. So it's just street,
it's trash. It's trash. Where you're telling me as I
(46:04):
should burn all of my trash, Well, that's what I
was gonna say. That trash fires. Uh. That's when I
lived when I was very young. Uh, in West Virginian
Unincorporated area. That was how people got got rid of
their trash. Trash fires. Yeah, like you know other spots
in the world. You know, it's still like, you know,
I am the I am the trash people. I burned
(46:27):
my ship right here in my backyard. Yeah, I gotta
look at the burning trash. Yeah. So trash that gang
to holler Lydia you got you're either plug for or
you know, maybe you got a truck connect so she
could start her business there you go. I have a
little hype on the idea of driving around a garbage truck. Yeah,
(46:47):
and just the wildest vibe though if I'm not saying
you are, but you were low key going through their
trash and creating like blackmail dossiers on them and be like, no, man,
you don't get it. This trash thing paid for itself
in the first month when I started getting money payments
from Now I'm gonna need the east half of your land.
These cracker barrel receipts and these Zaxby's receipts. And what
(47:10):
this tells me is he has another bitch. When you
start going to Crystal yeah, because there isn't one in
this county. So if you go on huh. I think
I should do my own version of Snapped, but like
garbage trash based only and just try to find people
just cheating on each other. That would be a funked
(47:31):
up podcast where it's like someone goes through the trash
of a random building and then talks to a person
based on what they know from going through their trash
and just freaks him out. Probably better YouTube prank video,
but somebody's a good podcast or awful one, or just
a career as a clairvoyant you know, Oh yes, the
(47:55):
scam psychics. Oh that Lydia, that's the wave you go
through the am and then you know the little details
and like, do you want a reading that's got a
feeling from you? Please sit in my vibe corner. People
people in the South are love to believe. They they're
like Molder and Scully. They just want to believe. So
you get just give him an excuse to believe. The
(48:17):
truth is out there though. Yeah, man, it's somewhere somewhere.
It's out here. It's out here, somewhere. I'm gonna find it,
all right. Well, we're throwed to be joined in our
third seat by one of the very faces on Mount Zitemore.
He is the hilarious, the talented billy Wayne David. Hey, guys,
(48:38):
listen to that rich baritone. Hello, hey, bike expert. I
see you got a lot of bikes hanging up in
your garage. Image there you gotta I think, Okay, anyway,
we'll talk later. I need is that gang. Let me know.
I need a I need a mountain bike. But I'm
not trying to spend a lot of money. I'm I'm
a mountain boy. I don't know. I'm Oh, you have
(49:00):
like Roady your road man. It's just it's all about
I'm not like going down the mountain. I have a
mountain bike that I bought out a yard sale and
I've been told it's really good. Um, But like it
isn't that always funny when you have a thing you're
not sure if it's good, and then someone else is like,
hey man, whoa was that a Cannondale And you're like, well,
(49:21):
I don't know. I gotta are like that's a good bike.
And you're like, oh, really, I have a I have
a grill and it's like it has a smoker, has
the charcoal, and it has the propane and then a
burner on it. And I bought it for sixty dollars
on Craigslist. I knew that was pretty cheap. But my
friend who really loves meat and smoking and all that,
(49:44):
came over and he was he was like, man, that's
so nice. I was like, yeah, I got that for
sixty dollars, and I thought he was going to punch me. Oh.
He was so angry at that deal. At the savings. Yeah,
because he was like that's six That thing is six
hundred dollars and he and you paid I was like sixty. Yeah.
Like anytime heause he stares at it, anytime he's over,
(50:07):
you can see it like it eats him up. Like
one day I'll just give it to you. Catch him
using by binoculars from across the street, looking into your
back like he's still got Well, just anytime he's over there,
you just there's like there's like at least one time
anytime he comes over, I'll just catch him just looking
at it, kind of shaking his head, just like right.
Because it's one of those things too that gives you appreciation, like, oh, ship,
(50:28):
somebody who knows their ship says this is it, and
then you're then you're like, I got the deal, baby
winning all day. Yeah, And it was like it was
like I just knew. I was like sixty dollars for
that's pretty cheap. I knew that, and I was like,
that'll be fine. I needed real. He loves that. He
he's like, so, what have you smoked in it? And
(50:48):
I was like nothing, and you just say, just just
just pure rage, just just just cooking these kicking on
it sometimes for the kids. Yeah, these frozen Tyson chicken
breast patties. I just throw a couple of those on
their Yeah. I think they're reformed from like rip meat
and stuff. They're really cheap, they're great. Kids love them
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