Weekly Zeitgeist 177 (Best of 5/24/21-5/28/21)

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of the
Weekly Zeitgeist. Uh These are some of our favorite segments
from this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment
last stravaganza. Uh yeah. So, without further ado, here is

(00:22):
the Weekly Zeitgeist. Miles. We are thrilled and fortunate to
be joined in our by one of the very faces
on Mountain, Zepemore the Mountain, featuring the phase of our
fan favorite Daily Zeitgeist guest that's being built in my
garage out of Legos and Plato and spit. He is

(00:43):
the hosts of the podcast The Worst Idea of All
Time and which he watched Grown Ups two Sex in
the City to once a week for a year until
death do Us Blart, which is going to be going
on for the rest of his life. I believe it's
the year he will be watching Paul Blart too until

(01:03):
he expires. Um. He is the hilarious stand up comedian
who you've probably seen making fun of American accents on
his comedy CenTra. What the fuck the funk is up
with that brouh. He is the billion and talented guy Montgomery.
Oh wow, it's it's so true. I just think you

(01:23):
guys talk funny. Obviously obviously not to you, but to me,
what's the fun what's the funniest sound Americans make? I? Uh,
you're always like, oh, I don't know, I don't know. Oh.

(01:45):
I love about ki accent is saying like when chips
kind of becomes chops. Yeah, like any of that ours
that you know Australian kiwi sort of sound. Yeah, those
are my favorites. But I guess it's just our Oh
we swap a lot of eyes for us. Yeah, we
don't even know we're doing it. And when we do it, no,

(02:05):
one don't here police is it. We'll just sort of
we know what each other is saying. Get it doesn't
sound odd to the I hadn't. I hadn't thought about it.
But without traveling and our borders being close, there's been
a lot less um sort of teasing about our hilarious cadence. Right.
You know, we've all been striding around the country talking confidently,

(02:28):
and I get an email. It says you want to
come in the Daily's like guys, And I say, sure,
that sounds nice. I'm sure that won't be damaging for
my self esteem. Right out and here we are We've
had enough of your confident speaking. You built out here
nice cock. Wow. That's why people get New Zealanders to

(02:56):
say nice dick. The belief is that we're describing apion
so pish, that's all. That's all Americans, were you joking
or now you're saying, like tourists come and and clown
your accents on your land or not your but you

(03:17):
know where your people settled, uh people? Yeah? Yeah. Australians.
Obviously Australians are like, um, they're high school bullies. They're
like Australia to Canada, so like, so it is kind
of true, like that relationship that they showed in Flight
of the Concords. Yes, they love to ruffle out here

(03:38):
and tell us it's all okay, and it was all okay,
comes over. Yeah, yeah, before they ruffled out here, it
was fine. We like to ask our guests, like, what
is something from your search history that is revealing about
who you are? I was searching the Clippers because I
was trying to find a way to watch the game

(03:59):
and I don't have cable or whatever. This Valley's network
is that apparently bought all the Clippers games last Yeah,
that like bought Fox sports or whatever. Yeah, I have
no idea what's going on. I learned all of this
very quickly last night when I realized that a national
playoff basketball game I couldn't watch because I live in
the city that the team plays in and I don't

(04:19):
have the right wires coming into my house. Right. Yeah,
there were a lot of people talking about like how
they ran the the NBA scheduled the Lakers game and
the Clippers game at the same time, same damn time.
It's pretty ridiculous. Yeah, it's pretty And I know there's
a lot of puzzle pieces with stuff being on the
West Coast and you know, all the moving parts with

(04:39):
all the games. Was the first round, so there's like
all of these series happening once. But you you figured
they wouldn't even be on the same day at the
same time. And this is game two of round one. There,
this was unavoidable. It's not like this is you know,
they're one teams in the first round Game seven and
the other teams that like, this is just straight up

(05:00):
this was the plan all along, Mike, you the Clippers, Man,
I think so, or I thought I was. Now I'm
I'm just confused, man, I'm just confused. I have no
idea what's happening. They seem cursed. Yeah, And it's like,
I feel like it's too dangerous to root for them
now because who wants who wants heartbreak that it's for

(05:21):
sure coming right, and for people who don't know it
might not be interested. You know, one of the big
things going into this postseason with the Clippers is that
they tanked because you know, some they tried to manipulate
their records so they wouldn't have to face the Blazers.
They didn't want They wanted to avoid stronger oppositions, so
they wanted to face the Mavericks. And now they're down
to nothing in the series handed to him by the

(05:42):
people who they who they chose right, and and and
and that's weird because I was talking to Jack earlier
off Mike, I was like, psychologically, you don't want to
go in like strategizing if you're if you're intent is
to say no, Actually, I believe this is the team
that's the best in the league. It shouldn't matter who
the funk you play, because at the end of the day,
you're going to prove that through your wins. But too
then strategically avoid oh tylu come on now, sorry buddy,

(06:08):
but you know, maybe he's just a he's an undercover
Laker in disguise. It's so it's so wild, like the
fact that the Clippers are down to oh To to
the Mavericks to like a team that I think I
think most people had the Clippers winning that series. It
really does make you ask questions about like the psychology
around both that, like the team that you're playing, realizing

(06:31):
that you wanted to play them because you didn't respect
them enough, right, and then the psychology around like playing
for what is supposedly a cursed franchise. Well, if you
watch the last dance, I think what we should all
take aways. You don't make people angry on purpose, right,
don't do it? Yeah, because they will athlete have some
good job of turning that into fuel. Yeah, yeah, like they.

(06:54):
I think there's a reason that the team that broke
the curse for the Boston Red Sox were affectionately known
as the Idiots. Like there's like something psychologically complex in
sports about like playing for a cursed franchise and you
just have to either like stupid your way through that
or just like through sheer tyranny of will like, I'm

(07:16):
sure Lebron would be able to do that. I mean
he did that with the Calves, but not to piss
off Clippers fans even more. But I mean, come on,
what is something you think is overrated? The Los Angeles Clippers.
I think they're overrated. So we don't have we don't
have to stay on him. I just we have three

(07:38):
basketball fans talking right now, and this is what's happening
right now. I'm I'm on the other side of that
lifelong Laker fan, so I I love it. Uh, this
is when I become my most toxic because a lot
of the times I am I love the relationship between
like a franchise that defines themselves based on someone else,

(08:00):
and I just love to see it backfire. But part
of me also like on paper, I'm like they I'm
like scared of the Clippers until I see the results
and then I'm like, hmm, let's well, it's up and down.
They should be like really good. I'll be surprised if
they lose the series still because I just feel like
k While put it together. But man, it was the

(08:20):
last person to go to games down, yeah, right and
then come back win, So you know, see are you feeling.
I mean, what do I mean you, Mike, you look
lost as we talk about this, and just I feel
like you're watching like old Darius Miles highlights playing well.
I mean I did have to watch the game in
my own mind last night, that is, that is part
of I couldn't actually see it. So I'm just like

(08:41):
watching Google for information and live score coverage. I don't
even know how to pirate stuff anymore, so I didn't.
I didn't know. But also a z Gang holler, holler,
I Mike on Twitter with some info because there are
plenty of ways, because it's the same thing like Spectrum

(09:01):
Sports or like kan in l A, what do you
want to watch your team where Yeah, you have to
just work around these greedy broadcasters. Yeah I got and
I got caught out there yesterday. I didn't know what
to do, so yeah, yeah, I mean I only caught
I caught like highlights. And then at the end of
the Laker game, they like cut to you know, they
started watching it on the t N T brow or

(09:23):
the whatever the broadcast was. Yeah, so you could got
like the last couple of minutes where like Charles Barkley's like,
oh man, and they weren't even It was funny because
they were they were just watching and they weren't really
giving commentary, but it was commentary, and that this is
what it sounds like when the four of them are
watching something passively Lakers fans. Miles, you said you were

(09:45):
a lifelong Lakers fan, and that that's true. You had
to live through those tough times when they were where
Kobe was still putting up like eight one and no
stop stop stop. I was here. I was there that
one year when Magic Johnson like was Lakers. They know

(10:06):
my history, man, like fucking down, I've I've held ashes
in my hands and be like, what is happening? And
then yeah, the pensions on the other way, and now
you know, I'm using this to completely become an insufferable fuck.
So I'm a Bulls fan, So I have no sympathy
for you at all. We haven't won anything in my
adult life. Yeah, the one loss in the playoffs. The

(10:29):
Lakers lost their first game of the playoffs, and I
was getting the texts from Lakers fans being like, what
is Vogel doing right away? People passionate context of what
a postseason even looks like. It's like we only did
a couple of times. I think it was like against
that one series against Iverson where we like went winning

(10:52):
every single game on the way to the finals, and
then when we lost, like but yeah, that one lost
again like one of those hard things that Lakers fans
had to live through when they lost that one game
to Diverson. That was hard, man, that must you swept
everyone else that year. But yeah, I mean, these are
the same people who were texting me last year being

(11:13):
like Vogel should be fired, like halfway through a run
to the playoffs where they won the championship and they're
like back, They're like this guy, what the what is
he doing? It's like you think that it would build
up faith. But I don't know, Lakers fans, I don't
call for heads like that, like that's any anytime somebody's
coaching Lebron, like part of their job description is to

(11:35):
take all the blame for everything, because you know, we
all think that Lebron's really coaching the team and that
guys just standing there board that's right, Tyler. That one
picture he's like outside the huddle dumping on someone's back.

(11:56):
What is something you think is underrated? I think it's underrated.
And this is again Gray's Anatomy related and that is
all you will be getting for me today is graze
a nomy content. So I hope you like it. It
is underrated that I really like that men have to
be hot. Now, Um, that's nice that that standard has
now been applied to all genders. It's just that everybody

(12:18):
has to be hot, because it used to be that
if you were watching a movie and they introduced a guy,
you couldn't tell if he was supposed to be hot
until you heard the music cube or saw the main
character's reaction, because a lot of the time they would
present you with like a really average looking guy, not
an ugly guy, just a regular looking guy. Yeah, But

(12:41):
then the characters would be like, oh, he's fine or whatever,
you know, and you'd have to see that to know
because they were just like, yeah, we can't find any
hot guys. We just don't know where to find them.
Or the white guy who like the white cis heterosexual
guy who like was directing the movie just like didn't

(13:02):
give a ship, was like that guy's probably hot, right,
Like I can't be hotter than me because I want
to think I can funk these people in my mind
also like where would we be without this move? Someone
lowering their glasses to excuse him, glasses just pulled, pulled

(13:23):
some shades. I've got all kinds of props, you know,
around here. If we can, we can, we can do
a terrible improp scene. If now he has giant scissors,
what are you doing with those giant scissors out? I
felt like on Sex in the City though, too. That's
when I would always see like norm core as dudes

(13:44):
and they're like, oh fuck, and I'm like why yeah
talking about Yeah it was, but it took their repection
for me to say like, oh, that's what's hot, and
then for you to understand what's supposed to be hot. Actually,
now that you say that, I think about the confusion
that overcame me as like a pubestan boy being like
this is what they're feeling, like, this is what's hot.

(14:07):
I'm like, oh, I'm in trouble then, because I'm not.
I don't look like some fucking little league coach. Well,
sometimes I would see that and I would be like,
am I hot? Because I'm harder than that guy. You know,
I don't think I'm hot, but like, if that's the standard,
but there was a completely different standard for girls and guys.
And now, because you know, now we have YouTube beauty tutorials,

(14:31):
nobody has an excuse to not know what to put
on their facebody has an excuse. Yeah, how to alter
your face with paints, how to moisturize your skin, how
to dress. All this information is on the internet now.
And uh it's also thanks to a lot of people
working very hard. There's more people of color on TV,
so you don't just have to go with the best
looking white guy. Now you can go with the best

(14:53):
looking any race guy, which really widens your field to
the hottest of the hot. Yeah, I mean Reggae Jean
from Fucking What's I remember getting a fight with her Majesty.
I was like, yo, like you think I could be
I could be in a show like him? And she's like,
hell no. I was like, thank you for keeping it.

(15:20):
Manna is yelling in the chat to be hornier when
we talk about him. This is the most specific note
we've ever gotten from consistent with this one. She's like,
if we're talking Reggae Jean, get the horny nous up.
Hold on, I'm I'm going to my zoom recorder and

(15:41):
turning up called to identify with when you're talking about him,
and just not not being horny. Look, you either gonna
get horny, you're gonna get down on yourself. I turned
off my splush mike so you can't hear. Yeah, that's
it that we do usually ask that all guests have. Yeah,

(16:03):
it's a label of NFL games on the sidelines, focus sounds,
no matter what, just a mic. I shove up their
channel too, but I turned it down, turned the way
down from my production people out there. Chris, what's something

(16:29):
that you think is overrated? Celebrities? Oh? Yes, even though
you even though you have a famous Twitch show called
brew got me like, even though I myself wanted my
whole life to be a celebrity because I thought it
would solve all my problems my whole life. I thought
that I wanted to be a celebrity because it would
give me love without me having to do any work.

(16:51):
I have found out that also I used to be
an alcoholic, Joel, you don't know. So as part of
my alcoholism, I was like, what better way to be
an alcoholic than be a celebrity, because then you have handlers,
you have like a team. You know, James at his
wife that way, who did Robert Downey Junior's wife was

(17:12):
his handl There there you go, And that's exactly right
because I don't want to have to meet people. I
don't want to have to like put myself out there.
I just want my handler to fall in love with
me because I'm a celebrity. That's exactly right, That's what
I wanted it. And I'll never I'll always have love
and I'll never have to do any work and no rejection,
no rejection. Who's gonna leave that orbit? Everyone's favorite place
on earth, the land of no rejection and failure exactly,

(17:34):
the land of no action as well. It's weird how
that works, right, But I mean, no one's gonna leave
your orbit of your celebrity because it's unlimited snacks until
your Twitch show coldbrew got me like doesn't start doing
as well as they Just here's your real friends. There's
always there is always a cliff bar within reach when
you're a celebrity for free, and that's enough to keep

(17:56):
your significant other around, even if you're a monster, even
if you're a mom. You're like, he free bases all
the time. But I get free cliff bars. Yeah, and
these like backpacks we get for free out yeah and
back like cologne and stuff and like free anybody. Yeah,
I have a I have a coffee mug that you
can charge your phone by plugging your phone into it.

(18:17):
I got it, got it the Kid's Choice Awards. So anyway,
the idea that celebrities first of all, Yeah, because as
an addict, you're thinking, I used to honestly think that,
Like listen, if I get out of hand, I can
go to a you know, a mud bath or whatever
it promises, you know, and the right and then I

(18:37):
can go back to my other lifestyle. So and they're
also like I can go to the doctor or whatever
I want and they can check if I'm dying or whatever,
and then they say you're not dying, and then I
can do coke. You know, you're not dying, but your
heart can't handle any kind of ampheta means I will
say that you don't alright, but I'm not dying. Right,

(18:57):
It's not No, it's not it's a good idea, any
of it. None of it's a good idea at all.
I mean it's a terrible idea. Yeah, that I'm gonna
do coke and then find out if I'm still alive,
and then do coke again. But I really wanted if
I thought figured, if you're rich, you can have a
doctor in your house. I mean, look at Michael Jackson,
Poor Michael Jackson and his own doctor. It was like,
you know, give me propa fall and he's like, I
can't say no to the King of Pope, say no

(19:22):
at all, but put me to sleep. What did you
handle that happened? Did you come out the other side?
What's your vision now that you have this take? So
here's my take. My take is that it was seeing that.
It was seeing the Academy Awards and it was lovely
because it looked ridiculous. It looked ridiculous everyone involved in
it looks like an egomaniac. No one wanted to see,

(19:43):
Uh Glenn Close do de butt or whatever the hell
she's doing. Yeah, it's because they're fools. Celebrities are nothing
but the worst of us in a way. I mean,
you know, I'm not saying they're not talented. Some of
my love, but the culture is absurd and this pandemic
revealed celebrity used to be just what they are, which
is completely narcissistic versions of ourselves, and once they were

(20:05):
stuck at home, they just look like assholes because they
were just like kind of people. Like they were just
like kind of people. Remember when they did that. Imagine
all the people video at the top of the pan.
That's that's exactly what I was thinking in my head,
was Galdado when I was thinking that ship? Right, Yes,
it's like this person just spends too much time on

(20:26):
their makeup and their hair. This is not someone I
should be might that should be my even doing their
own makeup and hair. Listen, celebrities have far too much
time because people will eight organize their life, be there
the revenue stream for like at least six people. Once
you're like at a certain level of celebrity, and those
people are going to make sure you get to where
you need to go. Don't worry about driving anywhere. They're

(20:46):
gonna send a car for you. Your hair and makeup,
they'll do that. If you haven't showered, they might even
scrub you, or they'll just deal with your stink, whatever
is easiest for the general team. Right, they're gonna pick
out your clothes. You have to worry about that. People
we talked about this. The other day, we were offended
when a celebrity came to our office and had to
pay for their own parking. Mortified, We're like, what's happening,
Why did that happen? They can't pay, They couldn't Possibly

(21:08):
this person exponentially wealthier than any of us, And it's
the whole world opens up to you. And it's like,
on the one hand, you don't want to feel bad
for somebody because they have all of the options, right
and so of course not. But at the same time,
like that world is so preconditioned that once you, like
if you're even just a little bit talented, and you

(21:28):
somehow gets swept up into this thing, like that's it.
You're off the extra exceptional celebrity. Maybe, like you know what,
I don't like a Shenado O'Connor was like, I was
really smart to tear up that picture of the Pope
because I just got to go back home and chill
where that's where I like. She's like, I made a
smarter decision career by stepping out of canceled. She's like

(21:49):
the only person who really got canceled in the history.
Well that there's a few that, like, I don't know
if you remember Shenadoconnor, like that's a that was a cancela.
Oh yeah, she got fucked just for ripping up a
picture of the pope, which is completely righteous. There's nothing
wrong with I mean in retrospect, it's like at the
time I was like, who cares about the goddamn pope?
It's like tear picture of Queen Elizabeth. We have Congress

(22:11):
people who are like, well, they may have been seventeen
at the time, I don't know, it's a trafficking and
we're over here like I don't know trafficking for this.
But to your point about the celebrity thing, yeah, it's
you know, on some level, it's like sure the people themselves,
did they become whatever celebrity culture makes them right, you know,
because it's not that they're like on some level, yes,

(22:34):
some people who get reached that level of celebrity will
begin to really I think, switch gears into what they
believe a celebrity is. And then you always have to
look for people who try and maintain their humanity through it.
There are like versions where I'm surprised at how like
humble some people are. Not to say that, it's all

(22:55):
varying depending on who you are, but that there's also
just like this thing that they also are on comfortable
with what celebrity culture is and what that means to
other people, where some like you know, you'll meet people
like no, I'm just I'm just a person, Thank you
so much, Like I can get that thanks not shout
out to all the celebrities who refused to show their kids.
I feel like that's mainly we're talking about the celebrities

(23:15):
like no, my child is not a commodity, it's a
person alone. Let them developed in private. But I think
we also are learning, like you're saying, Chris too, that
when we're all stripped down to like what we really
need as human beings, looking at celebrities like it just
feels very vapid or it doesn't have any substance to
it or nourishment, because like you're saying, it's like these

(23:37):
projections of our own egos that we wish to maybe
be or can't be. Therefore, it's easy to be invested
in this version of a person that we think, you know,
it's also to be sympathetic to them. The new media
landscape has made it so like say the oscars, It
used to be like best picture. You really were often

(23:57):
like oh wow that those people really did some work,
you know, and now best pictures like Mario Kart, you
know what I mean. It's like it's like Glenn Close.
I don't even know why Glenn Close, dude did but
I didn't even watch it, but I saw, you know,
all the takes of course, because I'm an take our
best friends. And he called her up and he was like, yo, Glen,

(24:19):
please please do this for the best friends. I was like,
that's a better version of Snoop and Martha. I'm like,
that's kind of a very elevated They're like, I'm actually
like I want to see that dinner party. So anyway,
my punch line that I wrote down was basically, during

(24:42):
the pandemic, I found out that the real celebrities are
deer and bears from hiking. From hiking, I was so
much more excited. You know, who's got more to offer?
You know, he's got more to offer than Glenn Close
doing to butt a deer, a real deer the forest.
So what I'm saying is I just realized that the

(25:04):
real celebrities are animals, like actual animals in nature, birds
and ship I'm so much more excited to see a bear.
I saw bears, Joe hell I went, I went hiking
a bunch during the pandemic for the first time, and
that was just a shift, you know what I mean?
I mean by point my I guess my point was,
you know what, who's not I don't want to see?
I love that. I'm just making this all about Glenn

(25:25):
Close doing I don't want to see I don't. I didn't.
I didn't even see it. I just saw the takes.
I never see anything. I just see the takes. Uh So,
I never watched anything at anything was looking for din
Or audio from nineteen seventy six, Man Ordering Eggs nineteen
seventy four rough audio, raw raw fortage of Man ordering eggs.

(25:49):
So anyway, I just think that for me, there was
a shift towards, like, you know, away from celebrity culture,
which I liked because I like celebrities too and I
love pop culture. But it just shifting to the woods. Literally,
you know, it was kind of fun. I'm waiting for
the first Bear Vogue cover exactly thing. I would vote
for Christian Triano to style it. Let's go, all right,

(26:13):
We're gonna take a quick break and be back with
one more because we got got a lot of runway
when we're landing the crafton plane. We'll be right back.
Stick around and we're back and let's check in with

(26:34):
our old friend Amy Cooper. I mean, she's like maybe
her face is definitely on the like Mount Karen more
like of the most famous Karen's. Yeah, I don't know.
It's kind of a weird time because she wasn't like
Barbecue Becky or some of the other ones like Lemonade Lisa,
some of the other famous white women who would just

(26:56):
sort of you know, metal and just called the police
on people doing things like having a barbecue, selling lemonade
and ship like that. I think because this ship went
down the same day George Floyd was murdered, so you know, rightfully,
so the reaction they got the reaction it deserved. And
for if you don't remember, it is Christian Cooper. He's
a bird watcher. He was in the bramble of Central

(27:16):
Park where it's posted everywhere you gotta have your dogs
on a leash, and a lot of bird watchers like
to go there, and when your dogs are not on leash,
they can chase the birds away and now you've got
the fucking day wasted because this person got the dog
off the leash. So if you remember the video, was
him just being like, hey, do you mind putting your
dog on the leash, like you're not supposed to have
the dogs off leash in this section of the park,
and she's like, oh, this black man is attacking me. Yeah,

(27:42):
And then like you know, if you remember, she was
like yanking the dog around by the leash, and people
are like yo, yo, yo, you're not even paying attention
to your dog. You're just like flinging it around. So
it led to you know, she lost her job. Believe
the dog was even taken away because a handle a
dog on a leash um. And you know, she and
she even had a kind of apology that she did publicly.

(28:03):
I'll read it just so you can, because I think
this is a good primer to understand where she's at now.
So the starts off really clear. I sin Cemilian humbly
apologized to everyone, especially to that man. Oh okay, okay,
keep on. I'm sorry to that man uh and his family.
It was unacceptable, And I humbly and fully apologized to
everyone who's seen that video. Everyone that's been offended everyone

(28:25):
who thinks of me in a lower light, and understand
why they do. When I think about the police, I'm
such a blessed person. I just I don't even need
to read anyone. She says, I've come to realize that
I'm afforded a different luxury in my interactions than with
the police than other people might be, and then ends
it with I reacted emotionally and made false assumptions about
about his intentions, when in fact I was the one

(28:46):
who was acting inappropriately by not having my dog unleash.
I'm well aware of the pain that misassumptions and insensitive
statements about race cause. Cut to she's suing her bosses
and former employee or for wrong determination and she was
discriminated against. Oh yeah, she's really the victim. Let's think

(29:09):
about it here. I mean she you know, poor thing. Yeah.
I think her lawyers are that band prodigy who are
like you, the victim. Okay, yeah, that's right. This is
in her lawsuit. She says Franklin Templeton is a company
she worked for, characterized a former employee is racist for
calling the police on a black bird watcher whom she
had had words with while walking her dog in Central Park.

(29:31):
Ok okay, they're saying that was the problem is that
they categorized it as a racist. Amy Cooper said the
incident was spurred by her fear of the bird watcher,
Christian Cooper, who she says had a history of quote
aggressively confronting end quote dog owners for walking their dogs
off leash. She even goes on to say that she
can even back up her scary black man claims with

(29:54):
a testimony from a fellow black man that would also
attest to Christian Cooper's scary eness for being like, hey,
have some respect for the bird. Why Like I don't.
I don't. I still don't understand what is so scary,
but yeah, that's it. I'm wondering if like part of
their strategy is to wait a year and hope that
we don't remember what we saw in that video, because

(30:16):
like she is talking to the police and being like
a black man is like, ah, I forget she says
a costing me or attacking me, but whatever it is,
she's definitely you satronizing the description of this person on
the phone to the police, which is why everyone's like,
you know, you know what the funk you're doing. You're
saying I can call police, and that's why you should
stop telling me what I can and cannot do. That

(30:38):
is not your place as a black person telling me
a white person if whether or not I shot my
dog on the leash, and that, you know, is what
it boils down to. And even her employer was like, yeah,
we're like, we don't have anything to say. The video
speaks for itself. Quote. Her lawyers sucked up because it
should have been like, we're suing her workplace for just

(31:00):
nation they were discriminating against Cuckoo for Coca Bust people,
Are you kidding me? My god? And they should have
definitely used that language to it's a mental health issue
after all. Yeah, General Mills brought you. Oh yeah. She's

(31:21):
also suing for her lost wages and like a bonus
that she thinks she would have got. Uh, okay, I'm
sure every every company is doing Bookoo numbers. And she
also says like determination caused obviously much trauma and pain
and distress as well. This lawsuit is not busting bust

(31:42):
perspect Sorry, it's so funny because she it's like we're
watching someone like find out about the internet in real time.
But I feel like this isn't even the Internet. This
isn't like a clip taken out. This is a three
minute long clip. Her actions are so clear. So she's

(32:02):
claiming that she was discriminated against by like someone showing
her behavior to lots of people like that's that's the
only thing that happened. So it's I mean, look, I'll
play the video really quick. Just you can hear she's
because a lot of in her lawsuit. He's like, you go,
you should play the whole nine one one call. The
video starts off when she starts charging at him fro

(32:25):
being like, yo, can you put the dog on a leash?
Please don't come close to me? Please don't come close
to me. Please don't come close to me. Please please
call the carts. The calling cops, and the dog is like, yo,
you're lifting me off the grounds, threatening me. Right, there

(32:52):
was an African American man just like I'm not sure
if you heard me, motherfucker threatening the dog. At this point,
she's literally holding the dog like off the ground. I
forgot about that part again. I'm sure, Yeah, you need
the whole nine one one call. But regardless, nice try,
Good luck to you. In your endeavor. You want to

(33:13):
hear my big conspiracy theory. Hot, all right, she you
know that thing happens year ago. She she gets famous,
she gets infamous. All right, that dies down. We have
other things to think about. She's like everyone's you know,
thinking like, all right, how do we make money off
this woman? She's the most infamous person, and like there's like,

(33:34):
you know, ten infamous people a year. I think she's
trying to make a podcast's keeping her name up there. Yeah.
I mean when I saw that this headline from our
outline Central Park, Karen re emerges in her final form,
written by Miles Gray, I was almost certain that she

(33:56):
was going to be speaking at like Sepack or like
some some like conservative convention. Like it's possible. Yeah, totally. Also,
super producer Justin is pointing out that she did get
her dog back, Oh thank god. Dog was like fuck
really within ten days of the incident. Okay, So look, look,
people everyone last their cool. Homi, let's just let's just

(34:18):
call it bygones. I don't know what I mean. This
is the the crescendo to be speaking at Sea Pack,
you know, just like with the mccloskeys, who were like
pulling guns on protesters, and we were predicting. We're like,
they're speaking, and I was just flippantly. I was like,
they're gonna be at sea pack and they were. I mean,
the second she starts taking it to like cancel culture

(34:39):
or like the liberal media, She's not. There's no buzzwords
like that quite yet. But I'm sure you know, right right,
her fed up talk with all the conservatives, her ted
nugent talk. Oh god, alright. I wanted to give a
quick update on Havana syndrome, like, do are you familiar

(35:00):
with what Havana syndrome is? No. When I readious outlined
his entire paragraph, fucking terrified me, just like three different
points in it. I just like broke out in tears.
So so, there were diplomats, just like the real quick
thumbnail version, there were diplomats in Havana at the start
of the Trump administration who started feeling like they were

(35:23):
being hit with a sound being. Basically they were feeling
like pressure changes in their brain. They were suddenly like
had vertigo. Like even after the fact, I've been in
between like thinking that it's like could be a mass
psychogenic illness, like basically a a mass panic thing, and

(35:44):
not because I think like people are being babies, but
because I think the placebo effect and like the power
of the mind to create actual physical symptoms in our
bodies is like highly underrated. But the so the New
Yorker differs with me. Uh and I've always said they
were hacks, but they they believe that this ship is

(36:06):
going on. They kind of wrote an article that went with,
like the CIA take on it that they're they're being
attacked by probably Russia with microwave weapons. The New Yorker
the CIA is still kind of on that path, and
they believe that it's actually spread now to being at

(36:29):
people being attacked while working at the White House, and
there's been like people suffering from similar symptoms. I still
think the symptoms are like kind of vague and weird,
and you know, it's just very diffuse, which is which
is what I think, which is why I still kind

(36:50):
of lean towards mass psychogenic. But um, so, what the
US is doing now is they're going to try to
create these weapons. Because so that's the other because that
always works, that always works out great, So that that's
the but that's the thing that is so weird here
is that science doesn't have an understanding of how a

(37:12):
weapon like they're describing could do the thing that they're
claiming it does, and so now they're going to like
build weapons that they think can do this with microwaves
and like train them on primates brains basically to try
and recreate the symptoms, which is fucked up. So do
we mean, like what do you say microwaves? Right? How

(37:33):
close is this to the thing that you know you
hate soup with in your kitchen? Like how how like
what what is what is the different differentiation there? Because
I refuse to believe we have consumer technology that has
not been tested as a weapon that that is the case, right,
I think they're much bigger. Like one of the criticisms
of any theory that this is like a real weapon

(37:56):
being used on people is that like you would need
a thing that is the side that would take up
like an entire hotel room to like create the level
of like radiation or microwaves that like would cause this
sort of injury, and after it happens, they just like disappear,
And it like happens in all sorts of places that
happens to people like while they're walking on the street.

(38:17):
It happens to people while they're driving in traffic. Again,
the White House, which like you would think is pretty secure,
like that it's happening to people there. There's also the
fact that what this is happening at the same time
that we're seeing things that science can't explain happening in
the sky and now apparently in the sea, over the
ocean and under the ocean like that, there's now a

(38:40):
submarine data that suggests that like similar to the flying
tic TACs, uh, submarine sonar has spotted things moving through
water at speeds that don't make scientific sense. And so
it's a weird moment where suddenly like the military is
is coming out and being like, uh, yeah, so like

(39:03):
we don't know, but the ship is weird. Uh. And
they're doing that on like a number of fronts. So
you could skeptically say like they're using this as a
ploy to make people scared, to create like another arms
race with instead of the Soviet Union, like a imaginary
threat fans, right fanos basically, but it is it's still

(39:27):
just kind of a mess, like the whole story, just
like the reporting around it. It's still scary though it's
scary scary. These words are very scary. There's something about
increased white matter in here. I don't know what that is.
What's white matter? Right? So that's the thing, Like they
talk about the people who suffered the injuries, when they
examine their brain on scans, they seem to have increased

(39:48):
white matter, which or decreased I forget one of the two,
but it's a bad one. Where like the thing that
connects thoughts is not there as much as it should be.
The no, exactly the thing you said they're trying to
we reverse engineered and tested on primates. Okay, so that's

(40:09):
the beginning of Planet of the Apes, isn't use? That's
what the is gonna happen? Like you like, you just
super charge their brains up right, I don't know what
that's just that's what I'm hoping for. Fingers crossed. It
does seem like, yeah, this would be a great origin story.
At the same time, the it's probably just going to
make those primates lives shitty from the rest of their existence,

(40:34):
like it has for the people who work in the
State Department. And again, by saying mass psychogenic illness, I'm
not saying this is something that they could just snap
out of sounds like what you're saying. You just sound
like you're saying they're whiny. Yeah, don't get it, Yeah,
stop whining, be right. I do hope though, that this
does lead. I just want to see a Silverback Gorilla

(40:56):
rip off parking meter out of the fucking sidewalk with
concrete on and just like chuck it through like an
armored sheriff's car. Yeah, you know, like when these primates
are unleashed. I'd like to see that from afar. Yeah,
I think I'm actually just I'm just thinking up things
I've seen in Planet of the Apes, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay,
so those of the Apes movies are dope. Yeah, I

(41:18):
would suggest you watch those those wait movie yeah yeah, yeah,
the What the Franco and then the other one. Those
are those are pretty cool. Alright, let's take a quick
break now that we're all suitably terrified, and we'll be
right back. And we are back and the Olympics are

(41:46):
almost here. Oh my god? Which is wild? I I
don't know. I guess there's usually like this impending media
like cloud that seems to always be looking forward to
the Olympics in America. At least I don't know if
that's how it is in New Zealand. Guy, But like
I the Winter Olympics, you realize that's happening once it's

(42:09):
started and and it's on TV and people are suddenly
talking about it. But the Summer Olympics, I feel like
it is always a big deal with like a lead
up in the media and in the sports world. Simone Biles,
the greatest U S gymnasts of all time, maybe the
greatest gymnast of all time, has been like doing this

(42:31):
routine on the vault that is like unprecedented, and that's
that's really the only piece of mainstream news I've seen
that like kind of crossed over into the zais where
I would have been like, wait, why are we talking
about gym gymnastics again? Oh, there's an Olympics coming home.
Doesn't realize how ignorant I am too a gymnastics because
like Simone Biles just does things. So after less I'm like, okay, yeah,

(42:53):
that looks normal, right right right, And then and then
I remember I think it was like Franklin Leonard, past
guests or someone was like, can someone explained to me,
like I know this is historical, this double pike your
chenko that she just busted, but like, I don't beyond
just seeing that looks like just some very cool shit.
And and and then someone's like, check out Mary lou Retton's

(43:14):
four vault that got her a perfect ten in eighty four,
and you'll see how much the game has changed. And
then you watch the tune, like, okay, right, she just
came up. Mary lou written just came up to the
vault and then did a somersault underneath it, and that's
what got her perfect ten, which is my my famous vault?

(43:34):
Is it the judges fist time seeing a gymnast? I
think that's the fist of venta holy ship. There's an
interesting experiment that if you only watch Simone Biles, then
you'd be like, god, wow, incredible what old gymnasts can do, right,
And that is kind of how it is. That's the

(43:55):
only thing that me, a non gymnastics follower like really
sees is the greatest like single acts of h Yeah,
I'm sure that's true of like all sports. I mean
it's like anything, right, Like someone might watch joke it's
just bland, a weird shot, and we're like, yo, that
is difficult to even take a shot. Like that, or

(44:15):
people who play, you know, who think soccer is easy.
Try trapping a ball that's coming from, you know, just
above your head and effortlessly just trapping the ball. There
are so many little skills that, like, yeah, that are
born out of ignorance. That's why I'm just trying, especially
with Simone Bios, to inform myself so I can truly
appreciate just how next level this ship is. What you're

(44:37):
what you're talking about's very excited to me. I was
hopefully there's some sort of large scale international platform with
the basic athletes from every country to represent themselves and
show us these different skills. Well, guys, because Japan Tokyo,
even though it's that's my favorite thing about it's like

(44:58):
I think that no one it's gonna remember COVID, Like
when we look on those games are gonna be asterisk
to hell, you know what I mean, Like when you're
looking at a do people still looking at all my
nexs like I used to when I'm playing in San Diego.
But the whole thing with this is like right now,
Tokyo is in terrible ship. Japan is in awful shape

(45:19):
in terms of the COVID situation. The vaccinations have like
stalled out. Less than five percent of people have their
first shot. Major metropolitan areas have declared states of emergency.
The Osaka hospital system, they said, is completely understrain, if
not like on the just brink of disaster because of
the amount of people that are having to be admitted.

(45:40):
And the United States government is even telling Americans like,
don't even think about taking a trip to Japan right now.
Don't even try it, even though yeah, we're the probably
the worst place on earth to go a few months ago,
but don't even think about going there? Is that too
Americans or American athletes to Americans now that you're did
States Olympics and like Paralympics committee has said, don't even

(46:04):
think about not going some mo biles, you better get
your ass on that because we gotta work to do.
But yeah, they the obviously the people are representing the athletes,
believe that it's going to be a perfect bubble, no
problem at all, don't even worry about it. Meanwhile, the
polling shows that even the people of Japan look on

(46:25):
the other side of this. Prior to it, I spoke
to friends and family in Japan. They were like, oh,
the Olympics are coming, that that will be fun because again,
any opportunity for nationalism. Chapanese people love you know what
I mean, I think like most countries, but you know,
for Japan there's like certain sports where we really excel.
So this felt like a good moment. Now of the
people in Japan are against hosting the Olympics this year

(46:48):
want to postponement. Forty percent want a complete cancelation. So
you know, but since a lot of money has been made,
what are we going to reprint these T shirts? No?
The T shirt the T shirts become more valuable. Yeah,
I would love if these got canceled. To get my

(47:08):
hands on some Tokyo is a ticket? Who's who? Who
speads a cancelation? Is that the io C is that
the Japanese government? Like how does how would that? Actually?
I think I would have to come from the IOC
because the Japanese government has not put up any resistance
to the games. So it's gonna take the executives for

(47:29):
the i o C to wonder is this worth it?
I don't know. I don't know what their calculus is.
It probably does have to do with the amount of
fucking merchandise that's probably been produced with the number or
some ship, but I don't know, Like I mean, I
would be interesting though, too, to see how many athletes,
if any, refused to participate. They're like, yo, this is

(47:50):
just a reckless I'm sorry, this is just this seems
so reckless, and I don't know how. I don't know
if you women you want me to put myself at risk,
and other people like no, I'm off this that the
athletic cycle of an Olympic athlete is so like they've
got such a limited amount of opportunity to be the
best at what they do. And also so many of
the sports that take place at the Olympics are just so,

(48:13):
you know, like they're not there's not a light on
the shot in them in the three years in between
every ceremony. The life cycle of a sakata, it's like
you get this one chance to come out everything every
four years. And so, I mean, I can I can
understand purely from an athletic perspective, how some of these
people are like, God, damn, I've been working so hard

(48:35):
for this. I just want to go to the Olympics once,
like I might be their one opportunity. And then but
you I mean, I feel like it's it's just it's
ridiculous that it's happening, and it's it sounds like, yeah,
money drives it, and if it's going to go ahead,
then an athlete is going to be like, well, I
have worked towards us, they're putting it on. I'm not
going to not go. And then it's sort of it's

(48:57):
a similar thing happened. I don't know if you guys,
you almost diffinitely don't The i p L, the Indian
Premier League. It's a T twenty cricket tournament that is
the most expensive and cricket. It takes place every year
in India, and they in the face of what was
stens we looked at the worst COVID nineteen crisis that
had happened across all of the pandemic was raging through India,

(49:18):
and then they created this biosecure bubble and like, you know,
millions of not billions of dollars are being spent creating
this league and you're they're playing cricket and what is
a biosecure bubble? And then like it's so incongruous with
the news you're reading about what's happening in India, and
then about halfway into the tournament there was a biosecure
bubble breach and all of a sudden, that highly contained

(49:41):
the strain of COVID is ripping through the players, and
then all of them are panicking and trying to get
charter flights out of the country. And you know, I
mean that India, it didn't have the facilities to take
care of its citizens, the people who lived there, and
I just can't have it feel like you're going to
see I mean, and I don't know if the i

(50:01):
C pay attention to that. They must have because it's
the only other massive multinational sports league that's trying to
take place in the middle of a of a hot spot.
But there is a very damning warning and advertisement for
what is almost invitably going to happen if these guys
go ahead. I don't know what you can do to
prevent that. I mean, I think in their mind they'll
be like, forget that example, what about the NBA bubble

(50:22):
that works? And they're like, well don't that's not hold on.
So you're selectively thinking anecdotal to justify this, Why miles
is the number of vaccinating people stalling it under five
is their opposition to like getting vaccines or I think
it's just the distribution is just happening as efficiently as

(50:44):
it can. But yeah, I just I think just getting
it available has been the hardest part, right, yeah, alright, Well,
staying on sports in American sports over the weekend, it
was kind of a surreal experience where suddenly fans we're back,
Like the NBA playoffs kicked off over last weekend and

(51:06):
Madison Square Garden in New York City where the New
York Knicks play was packed to the gills with people
like screaming and shouting and not masked up and packed
to the main sorry not the girls. And one uh

(51:27):
there was a golf major and it went from they're
not being anyone on these courses, like watching the tournament too,
like an unprecedentedly drunk and like out of control crowd,
just like crowding the players and like pouring onto the course,
like I don't know my dad watches these. I don't

(51:47):
watch them. My parents are staying with us. And that
he was just he was like, I've never seen anything
like this. They were like running up to the guy
as he was like about to win the tournament, like
patting him on the back and like grab him and
ship and he was like, what is happening? But it's
I don't know, it's it's surreal to see that many

(52:08):
people in that small space in a world where we
know that the US is not really doing like strict
vaccine passport, like vaccination passport. You know. The New York
Knicks and the New York Nets, Brooklyn Nets, who also
had full attendance, are almost full attendance. They had they

(52:29):
said that there was like ninety percent vaccination. But I
don't think they're like checking people's paperwork. Maybe maybe they are,
but I mean maybe some level. I don't know. I'm
trying to go to Game three. Yeah, yeah, so we'll see.
I know they just say pull up with your VACS
paperwork or whatever and or like a negative PCR test

(52:50):
from within seventy two hours. But we'll see, you know.
But people, yeah, I guess they are. Yeah, but it's
just it. Yeah, but there is this energy though to
the like the Madison Square Garden game, I could not
believe what I was saying. I think it's a combination things.
It's that it's the Knicks are in the postseason again.
I think for starters mixed with just the post VACS

(53:11):
world that we find ourselves in. But yeah, it's it's
I mean people are able to switch it up real quick.
I'm like just now being like a little bit more
like yeah, fucking baby, I'm I'm feeling feeling safer is yeah,
I mean the world like I flew back east over
the weekend and everything is like fully masked up, and

(53:34):
like you know, when you're inside the airport, when you're
on the plane, like you have to be wearing a
mask the whole time. Still, somebody ordered like two drinks
in a row, and the flight attendant was like, why
don't we take a break because you need to put
your mask back on because you've had it off, like
having this drink from I think there was all I
think that was also at play, But the situation is

(53:57):
so bad on airplanes. I'm surprised you didn't see some
ship because didn't a flight attendant get or or I
don't know if it was who who got the flight
attend got their teeth knocked out on a flight recently,
but that we're out of pocket, but they're still like
making everybody wear their masks. You know, I didn't I
I had a you know, a fake thing covering conscientious

(54:18):
objector card that held up sir, uh it is my right.
Uh all right, get off, asshole, Get this asshole off.
You're saying some kind of body provenance. Weird, don't talking
about It's just funny that the place that they are
letting people like finally experience the being in public without

(54:39):
a mask is like this just unhinged, like emotional environment
where like it's encouraged to just lose your mind on
the refs and the opposing players. Like the the Knicks game,
they were like Channing swears that like this young young
this guy was like really good player, young ship. Yeah,

(55:00):
and he did tell them what's it been like for
you man? Because I know you've been really quiet during
this whole section because probably because you haven't, I know,
New Zealand's in a bad place. You guys haven't had
crowds in a minute, I found fantasy. Yeah yeah, we
can only dream. I mean, yeah, we we've had crowds

(55:20):
at sports games since I feel like maybe July or
August last year, and the plan was to um, it
was elimination. It means that you know, watching these American
sports games, and stuff, and you see people like all
these people who are clearly pisted up and packed and
close proximity to people who presumably they didn't come to

(55:42):
the game worth with the masks hanging around their chin
or often air or like holding it to gesticulate, just
waving germs everywhere. Exactly. We didn't. No one's wearing masks
at the stadiums because like you have to wear masks
on public transport, you have to wear masks on airplanes,
but in the airport you're not wearing a mask, Like

(56:02):
I don't actually know what the functionality of it is,
you know, it seems crazy to me that you wouldn't
wear one all the way through the airport. You've got
this idea, but just on the plane. Yeah, But so no,
I mean there's we've even recently we've started playing um
there was a super right by alt At or competition
which was like just with the national borders. There five

(56:25):
franchises who who played rugby against each other. And then
in the last two weeks we've got an open travel
by what with Australia now so quarantine free travel between
the two countries, and we've started playing super Rugby Australasia.
I think that's what it's called whatever, And now we're
playing international matches and you're watching sports games in Australia,
where again people aren't wearing masks. But I mean, it's

(56:49):
like going to a sports game was the first one
of the first things I did when we got letter
out of lockdown, and it was like the sense of
I can viscerally remember the intensity and the relief and
the excitement and just you know, being in a crowd
and all of that emboldened and underscored by the fact
that we knew that we had to isolate like that,

(57:10):
you know, we had eliminated COVID nineteen and so yeah,
the consequence was not there. But I think it's it's
just too I mean, your guy's experience of it, in
your relationship to it so different. I can't imagine that
difficult it would be to go to an NBA game.
If you're in New York and you support the next
and you're at Medicine Square Garden for the first time,
what ten years or something, and you've just gotten out

(57:32):
of your house for the first time in two years.
You've got to remember to fucking keep a mask over
your your mouth like Trey Young probably can't hear you.
The only way that you're going to get through them
is if you can read your lips. Yeah, it's it's
a it's the assumed responsibility keeps getting passed down to
the individual like it's it's yeah. The same thing with

(57:54):
just like with the CDC is bizarre, Like mask mandates
were like don't yeah if you well, actually I don't know,
maybe if well, how old your kid? And it's like,
what are the fucking rules? What? Then forget it essentially
as a way to let businesses put it on businesses
now to say that's on you to decide, because we don't.
We don't want to be the boogie person anymore for

(58:15):
the Chamber of commerce, who is allowed like these politicians
are allowing, allowing them to put more pressure on us
and the other people who are trying to do right
by this pandemic. And also just box office continues to
be you know, it's not fully there, but it does
seem like the people who are releasing movies are getting

(58:36):
a better return than like The Wrath of Man. Jason
Statham's new movie is going to be the best performing
Jason Statham movie to date. Despite being like almost indistinguishable
from other chasing state to a Statham head. Yeah, I'm

(58:56):
not gonna sit by a while you poo poo the
filmography of the Great Jas instead, But like the you
couldn't get I could not tell you the difference between
the Wrath of Man and the Mechanic to uh like,
yeah one of them is a sequel for a stot Yeah,
my bad. But it's just I feel like people studios

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are probably realizing that they're leaving money on the table
if they're continuing to not release movies, like there's just
no competition so you can really like do well. And
Demon Slayer is continuing too. It's now made forty five
million in America alone and is the biggest movie ever

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in Japan with four hundred million dollars, and it's the
biggest grossing movie of Wait till Fast nine comes out, Jack,
then we'll start seeing you know what I mean? Because
the Family Man, when your family or whatever the funk
doudline was it all of when you're here your family,
Maybe that's all art and not Fast and Furious, but

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remarkable themetic similarity it does, like the energy around that
Fast and Furious movie, though, it is kind of funny
to see, like, even though it seems jokey, but this
does feel like a good time for a movie like
that to come out in the US, for at least
the people who want to be safe and go to theater.
But yeah, yeah, maybe that New Zealand they've been playing.

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I'm sure they're doing it in America. To you. You
can go to the cinema and much all the fast
films at the moment, they just rolling them out so
cool they haven't done that's right, damn it because you
can't really understand. Yeah, you can't understand F nine if
you haven't recently. Do I need to know the past

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material to understand this installment? Yes? What do you think
you're gonna You're gonna make sense of a flying car
and from the fucking sky? No, it's a it was
a light crescendo to this point. It's it's less about
the flying car and more about the relationships between the
people in the car in the flying cars. See you
just see your hung up on the car part. What

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about the air between the characters contained within? And if
people watch one through eight and have questions about why
someone who always talks about family Uh. The Vin Diesel
character who's obsessed with family never mentioned his brother before
this one. Yeah, you know he has a brother in
this one. Yeah, bro, John Cena. He should have also

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mentioned his brother is John Cena. That's a big deal.
That's that's an interesting casting decision. Okay. Anyways, guy, have
you is f nine out in New Zealand? Non? Not yet?
Are you just dreaming in New Zealand like a fantasy world?
Like it? It's fashion furious and already out man, And

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there's no COVID. That's cool. That's probably not as big
a deal to have flying cars there, since you actually
have flying cars in New Zealand. We do, and the
horsepower on them is something oh unfathomable. All Right, that's
gonna do it for this week's weekly Zeitgeist. Please like

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