Weekly Zeitgeist 183 (Best of 7/6/21-7/9/21)

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of The
Weekly Zeitgeist. Uh. These are some of our favorite segments
from this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment
last stravaganza. Uh yeah, So, without further ado, here is

(00:22):
the Weekly Zeitgeist. Please welcome in a Rubinova. Hi, guys,
thank you for having me. I didn't realize this was
a singing podcast, but I am prepared to sing. Yeah,
let's do it. Yeah. What which Bernadette Peter song would
you like to? I guess your choice? Something from Annie

(00:47):
Dealer's choice? Wow, Wow, you're going from the movies. Yeah,
let's just let's Annie. Uh guys, well we'll forget I
ever mentioned it. So it's good Anna. Where where are
you coming to us from. I'm coming to you from

(01:09):
sunny Los Angeles, California, I A USA. Yeah. The palm
trees today look frizzled. The sky is a beautiful gray. Oh.
I think that means there's smog or dust or something.
It might explain a lot of breathing problems, but yeah,

(01:33):
just another gorgeous day in reality. Where did you grow up?
I grew up in New York, Okay, And then how
did you hear that. Yeah, so it's not just a rumor,
but that place, it's a real place. Huh is that?
What's what's it like being from New York and now
you know, living in like most you know, being a
New Yorker and then being California, always curious to see

(01:55):
there's always a very takes on that experience. I am
so happy I'm here, not there except for this summer.
This summer, I feel like I would have rather been there.
But we moved here in six before the election, right,
so if we had to have lived through Trump in
New York, I think we would have been in a

(02:17):
really bad and eventual place, which I mean the sun
really helped and the if you live in New York,
do you understand us, Like once winter comes, everything feels
like it's over. Like you have to you have to,
like you missed your opportunity, you squandered the year, and

(02:37):
now you have to plan for how you're going to
come back in the spring and summer and fall. In
l A, you have the benefit of patients and like, okay,
so like you know, it was a nice day to day,
it was eighty degrees. That's okay, Tomorrow it'll be a
nice day, eighty degrees. It's okay, I can, I can
have fun. Then I didn't miss out, you know, and

(02:58):
I think that was very helpful for my brain, which,
as you can tell, it's a little messed. Not at
all sounds good on my end. Great, thank you. I
appreciate that. Not a day goes by. Sorry, there is,
so you're not at the point in your l a

(03:19):
life where you start fetishizing, uh, the winter and missing
the winter and stuff like that. That usually comes around
like ten years in Oh no, it's only been five.
So when that happens, I don't know if winter will
exist in the world, but that's at that point. I
think we'll all have like really wonderful like VR air

(03:42):
pods or something that will replicate, you know, the despair
of winter accurately, and I think we'll be okay. Sorry,
there's now like yard work going out going on outside,
so that's that is perfectly appropriate. It's called texture and
we love it. On the daily ZI Gist, Miles, I

(04:03):
meant to tell you that my five year old is
now I think heading in the direction that you ended
up in where he because he's never around winter, like
just in the past couple of weeks he started like
only wanting to read stories about winter. There's like an
Avenger story with frost giants and like all it's one

(04:25):
page of like this one children's book that he has,
and he like asks me about them every day, so
like he's he's going to get the very particular type
of l a born out of this dry desert. You
all you want to do is wear jackets because it
seems like exotic clothing to you. Do you guys got

(04:46):
a big bear lake or whatever. Yeah, but that's like
for like O one off. You know, like you don't
get like sustained periods where like you have to wear
like a scarf and things like that. And every person
I know who comes from the East Coast like, you
don't want that, you don't want that, And I'm like, well,
part of me actually doesn't want to be hot all
the time either, So you know, it's too much of

(05:06):
a too much of one thing can be bad. The
other thing people forget about New York is when it's hot.
It's so hot you can't live. It's ninety degrees and humid,
and like last time I was I was back home,
I had to take a full day off for exhaustion,
which had never happened to me. I was that excited,

(05:27):
I I um, I went, I went back, and I
started like walking everywhere. You know, I was walking places
I didn't have to just back and forth, back and
forth because I could. And the next day I had
to cancel all of my appointments and I had to
lie down on a couch for a bit. So standard
New York in the summer is very bad for sweaty people.

(05:50):
I would like need to bring a change of clothes
everywhere I went. It was real, it was bad. I
swept through like entire suits, not just the shirt part. Yeah.
Not good. And you also have to have a backpack
full of bricks because that's New York. Yeah, yeah, that's important.
We like to ask our guest what is something from

(06:13):
your search history that's revealing about who you are? You
love to ask that question. I do love it, and
frankly I love to answer it. The most recent search
in my search history is it was float Tank near
me Auckland, which has turned out to be I'll say
their name at a place called float Culture and Eden Terraces.

(06:34):
They're not paying for this mention better people, lucrative Green
back during the pandemic times and so not long after
this record rep. So I'm gonna go and lie down
and salty enclosed body of water for an hour and

(06:55):
see if that is relaxing. What do you guys think?
I mean, I've I've heard of I really want to
try it because as a kid, I remember being in
the bathtub and I would kind of do the version
where I just kind of put my just my ears
underneath the surface and just always be like this is
so weird, and try and like, I don't know, I
don't know about meditating them, but I guess I was

(07:16):
doing some form of it with that. So when I
hear about float tanks and how you know, the buoyancy
essentially makes it feel you completely sort of begin to
separate your physical and mental And yeah, I have that sensation.
I've been really interested in going, but I have not
done yet. Wow, man, that is exactly my ship. So
I'm gonna go and I'm gonna find out. I'm really

(07:40):
hard to find out. I'm really excited. Yeah, because there's
also like the most probably the most relaxed and best
I feel in my life is you're lying down and
you're about to fall asleep and it's sort of it's
not quite loose to dreaming, but it's the moment between
consciousness and unconsciousness, and you're like, man, my brain is
taking me where if it once right now? Yeah, I

(08:02):
think it's I have the same thing because like, I
love floating and just in general, you find me in
a body of water. I like to float in the
in the ocean where it's calm enough. I like to
just get on my back and just feel, you know,
whatever that sensation is. But I think it's really interesting
for what they say is just like sort of this
introspective opportunity that it offers people when you're kind of

(08:24):
in this situation or in that environment. So I tried
it once, and I have to just a little piece
of advice is don't go face down. That's not at all,
not at all. And I only lasted a couple of
seconds and got stop doing. Now I've heard it's trippy.

(08:47):
I'm trying to figure out if that's like the one
episode of Joe Rogan that I listened to and I
always talk that I listened to, unrepeat, repeat every day episode.
I couldn't brisk commuting the waters with any of the
other one, but they were talking about that and it
made it very intriguing. And then there's the Simpsons episode

(09:10):
where he like, basically it's like tripping right, Like, is
what the most extreme version of it that I've heard?
I like anything. I'm into anything that can like put
you in touch with sort of the vast realms of
your unconscious mind. So I'm this is me saying I'm
going to do that too. I'm gonna I I don't

(09:32):
know why I haven't to this point. I'm very interested
and it sounds great. I'm gonna do it too, and
I'm gonna do it on my back if I can.
I can't wait to see the huge spick in traffic
that float culture eating terraces having right now. Oh yeah,
And you can say you're welcome when you arrived today,
even though the episode may not be how you can
just say you're welcome and I and I will see

(09:55):
and I'll say, man, this guy's got a bad attitude.
He needs to float immediately. They do like clear clean
the water right in between floats like that is a
little drn And is I understand you've got to wash
yourself for fifteen minutes before and after that's good. Yeah,
which is yeah, laying in some someone else's soup, like, yeah,

(10:19):
get your infection in there. Yeah, I don't know that
it's going to be a brand new soup, right Yeah.
I think it's a ship I think it's a ship souper.
I think it's like you're at the restaurant and you
trust the other. If you're running a tank business, how
many how many floats you do before you switch out
the soup? If it's my tank business, Yeah, I'm trying.
You know, it's like running You don't want to change

(10:41):
that oil. That's where the flavor is. Oh yeah, all
the Revelations Iron Skillet, Yeah, all the revel guns are
keeping the same water over and over. Mix everyone else's
hallucinations up with your own. Yeah yeah. Like Jacinda was
just in there, you want to switch he'ld be honored

(11:03):
to be in there. She was in there. Jermaine Clement
was in there. I think one time, you know New Zealand,
he got that great cricketer, the you know, the one
you know, the what we're talking about, you know, because yeah, yeah,
I'm honored that I've made your New Zealand celebrity lists.
Oh yeah, absolutely that's every every person. I asked that.

(11:23):
I mean that's from New Zealand. I said, you know
Gataman coming right, that's the homey right there. But that
that is such a like when when you know the
the airlines we found out don't clean anything in between
and they're like taking garbage with you and that's why
we all got sick on airlines for so many years. Yeah,
so Keith Urban New Zealand or Australia. You know, damn,

(11:47):
there's a good question. I think he's Australian. Is he
married to? No way to know? Yeah, I think he's Australian. Okay.
There there are a few that are contentious that we
sort of um. He seems to be in this list
with like Rush little Crow too. Yeah, Russell cries contentious.
Both countries claimed him and in both countries were like
you you have him. But I think he's Australian. Okay,

(12:13):
Well he wasn't in the soup, so don't worry crowded
houses New Zealand. But Australia climbs him is throwing got you?
Got you? What is something you think is overrated? Derek
Elon Musk Hell yeah, that man, I get hey, he has.
I get that he has you know, tons of stands

(12:34):
on Twitter or whatever, but like, like objectively, the dude
is not like a smart person and he's not a
good person. Like objectively, we can just like look at
like lay everything out on the table, bar any of
the the excuses. Yeah well what about yeah, but what
about it was like the dude didn't invent anything. He's

(12:55):
not Tony Stark. We can stop calling him Tony Stark
because he's not. He's a dude who has been backed
by blood money his entire life. We can just like
own that and if you want to stand him for that,
then just say that, but you need to own it.
I stand the blood money. Yeah, my blood money gang. Yeah.

(13:15):
He I think is probably if we had an official
Overrated as a podcast, or at least if I got
to like choose it, Elon Musk would be would be mine.
Just the amount of cultural just energy that goes towards
just loving on whatever whatever thing he's promoting, whatever bullshit

(13:39):
scam he's got going, whatever relationship he's in, Like it's
just yeah, I mean, ultimately, like you know, Bitcoin, we
we can go back and forth on it all day,
like it's it's bad for the environment, and the dude
is ultimately only looking for himself, Like, yeah, he's going
to try and turn a profit. The whach point is
what it is because of him. Yeah, he's not in space.

(14:01):
He's not gonna be in space anytime soon. So do
you even call yourself a billionaire? He got that contract though,
you know what I mean. I remember Bezos is real
tight about that because he was like, well I should. Also,
you can't just have one billionaire. You should share billionaires.
You know that concept. Yeah, we're great at sharing. I
love that. This is the dystopia. It's it's like we

(14:22):
still have does I mean, there's still a raging pandemic.
There's still like global poverty on a on a on
a level that I hasn't been seen in a long time.
But then for these three guys, they're like, you know what,
I think it's time we go to space. Yeah again,
global poverty for you. Yeah, I don't know if you've
seen my ship. I fucking cash out on doors right

(14:43):
before I hit the stage on SNL. Baby, I'm all good,
But yeah, that's a it's it is again. It's just
like that deal Scott Hearing. You know, White He's on
the Moon. Yeah, from from the sixties, basically saying we've
got all these problems down here, but white he's on
the moon. Okay. Yeah, and just the and like not
just like covering ship for this show, but just like

(15:04):
just ambiently like people who I encounter on a day
to day basis, like the amount of respect they put
on Elon Musk's name is just well, you know, because
I think at the end of the day, like because
we don't realize that the underpinnings of our whole society
is that is basically surviving. It's not really that like
you're living your life not in this country, it's like
you have to survive because if you if the revenue

(15:27):
thing shuts down, you're fucked. So like looking at these
people who don't have the stress of survival is like
they're like, oh my god, that's the life. That's the life,
without really considering everything that's tied to that, which is
we're stuck in a rat race where you're not being
paid what you should be And meanwhile you're like you're
you're big enough the people that are siphoning your wealth.

(15:48):
But I've heard people quote the Elon Musk like he's
a philosopher. Well, hold on, let me clarify. I only
said that because I thought it was really poignant. What
is something you think is under the thing that's underrated
is just is that is sort of a contemplation you
get reading a book. We'll just published Tarzan Economics, giving
him a shameless plug for that, but you know, reading

(16:10):
and engaging with content. I think podcasts are the same thing.
When you when you feel as if there's there's a
conversation that you're part of. I think that's fascinating and
and way underrated because you feel a connection. And I
think this sort of bite size, constant flow of distraction
in social media is is really damaging. Yeah, I can

(16:32):
build on that a couple of points. So just one.
I always reminds me when I hear Richard talk about
this of what Gratual Mark said, which is, you know,
back then he said television is a fantastic invention because
every time I switched it on, it reminds me to
read a good book. And I just wonder what he
would say about Twitter and Facebook and the like today.
And I often look at a lot of that social

(16:53):
media's junk food and keep him with that food theme
of a colleague of ours Newami Drew. She said to
me once, what Twitter? There is this ability to You're
sitting at a big dining table, lots of guess and
everyone's broken off into private conversations, and Twitter allows you
to eavesdrop into all those private conversations. I thought somebody
doesn't tweet. It's a nice illustration of what it might

(17:15):
actually mean to us. But then you have to step
back and say, well, why would you want to eavesdrop
into all those private conversations. We don't have a deeper
one with something you can reward yourself from as opposed
to all these distractions. So yeah, it does come across
as junkard to me. So I'll little Richard's point there.
But but Myles, I'll something that hopefully you're aware of,

(17:35):
is that about a month ago, the entirety of UK sport,
every sport, rugby, cricket, tennis, football, all said complete ban
on social media for four days over a bank holiday
weekend because the original sin of Twitter is allowing people
to be hashtag raving racist or hashtag of you know,

(17:58):
I love abuse, uh, And it's just absolutely shocking these
and I say this in all seriousness, I think it
is the id of Western civilization. All the things that
we you know, in classic psychoanalysis or psychology, you'd never
say to people in polite company, All the terrible thoughts
you have in your head that you would never voice
directly to somebody. People say them all the time on Twitter,

(18:21):
and and you you know, you have someone who's who's uh,
you know, an icon and just deserving of the highest
of of respect, like Marcus Rashford in in the UK,
with all the stuff he's done with school lunches and
so forth, and he just gets the most unbelievable invective
of abuse, and you don't know where it's coming from.
And of course no one is gonna walk up to
him in the street and say these things, and and

(18:43):
and and and Yet the entirety of sport, it wasn't
just one sport, It wasn't just a few athletes. It
was everybody said, this has gonna stop. We gotta take
a break here, because we're not going to contribute to this,
this constant bubbling up of of an invitation to take
potshots at us. Yeah, no, I totally yeah, it's it's

(19:04):
there's the amount of especially with the racial abuse. Hurld that,
like the athletes is gob smacked is the word I
would use when I look at some of the things
that I read. And Yeah, that even forced one of
my sporting idols, Tierrian Reid, to like deactivate his accounts,
and he's saying, I'm not I'm not I'm not gonna,
I'm not working with this at all. If this is
what people come here for and the companies allow this

(19:26):
to just run rampant, what is the point? Yeah, And
that's why I think a lot of you know, our guests,
even who are comedians, come on to say, like, like,
you know, we can't stand social media because there is
a there's a certain level where, especially for comedians, like
it's a place to get their jokes off. But on
the other side of that, it allows for a lot
of people to just come at them and say all
kinds of ridiculous things that again, like you're saying, Richard,

(19:47):
you would never hear someone say that to your face.
And so we've had to like we've built up these
weird callouses emotionally to even engage in social media that
you know, I'm sure resonate in many other ways. So
so I had a UK UK member Parliament say to me,
you know, how can it be correct? That's something that
you would be arrested for telling someone in the street
to their face. You can say every day on social

(20:09):
media and will will tell you the the the the
language that's been hurled at Nicolas Sturgeon as Leader Scotland
the Scottish National Party. You know she she gets all
sorts of rape threats or what have you on a
daily basis, and you know you you can't callous yourself
entirely to that stuff. It's just no one can but

(20:31):
on interpreting it, like when when Richard just mentioned it
was what was inside people's heads all along, but now
it's pouring out. That reminds me of like one there
you are normally of crime stats is a good reminder
for how do you interpret all this activity? So it
goes like this, if crime stats are up, what do
we know what has happened? You know a crime is

(20:51):
on the up, or be we're getting better at catching criminals,
or see we've changed the definition of crime, or d
a combination of all of the above. The doesn't necessarily
mean crime is on the up. It means now we're
seeing what people had inside their heads all along. I
think that's an important contextual point about trying to make
sense of this madness as well. Yeah, that's a really

(21:12):
good point. I mean, the the neutering effect that banning
Trump from social media had is something that we talked
about a lot on on this show. But like that's
truly that. That was a moment when I really had
to like sit back and be like, wow, they we
we haven't figured this out yet, and like that what

(21:35):
he did, the way he used social media, Like hopefully
I'm assuming years down the road, like that won't be
possible in one way or another because it was just
so so damaging. Neither worried for Scotland. Is he's kind
of done his time in America. Is he're gonna come
back to Scotland and open more golf courses because we
got rid of him for a few years while he

(21:57):
was making a messy years place. Yeah. Maybe, I mean
it's it seems like the Scots are are are definitely
more united and giving him a hard time than the
people of the US. So I don't know, he who
knows if if there's maybe a little maga contingent in Scotland.
Maybe he'll find it there, but it seems like Florida
is the place for him at the moment. Florida, scot

(22:19):
better Weatherland, Scotland. Scotland. We have two seasons, winter in
June and that's your lot. So winter was amazing. Alright, guys,
let's take a quick break and we'll come back and
talk about the news. And we're back, and so are

(22:43):
the Olympics. Apparently they're still happening, still coming up, no
matter what. Doesn't seem like it, but yeah, the Olympics.
Taxes and death, the things that we will never escape.
But the Olympics are coming and probably the ass I
think most people were expecting to be like the Michael

(23:05):
Johnson of these Olympics. Shicari Richardson, Like she's a track
and field superstar from America who was like, you know,
top two, top three favorites to win the hundred meter
dash become the fastest woman in the world, and she
has now been suspended from that race because she smoked weed. Yep,

(23:31):
she tested positive for th HC in a in a
test that she took a few days after the qualifiers.
And you know, again, according to the World Anti Doping Agency,
it's banned during in competition periods. These are the laws
and the time frame that begins at eleven fifty nine,
the day before the competition starts. And like they say,

(23:53):
like you have a certain amount, but up until that window,
the rules change. And this so she popped on this test.
And now, because you know the the US Track and
Field Association goes with the same their signatories to the
World Anti Doping Agency like Charter and Ship that they
enforced these laws as well, so that for the U
S side, the penalty can be anywhere from one month

(24:15):
to a two year ban. But so in the most uh,
if she doesn't appeal, and let's say they give her
one month, her band would technically end right before like
the track events start. But the thing is, because she
tested positive, that means her qualifying time is negated, so
she is not going to be running in the just

(24:37):
individual race, So that means alternates, the people who are
now the fourth place finisher has moved on to the team.
In the fifth place person has now become an alternate
from the qualifiers and the best right now as it stands,
the only chance she has is to participate in the
four by one relay because the track association is able
to select people to participate in that. So this is like, really,

(25:00):
this is just completely fucked up. The things that I
think a lot of people remember from her qualifying win
was just her words about everything she had gone through
to arrive at this moment. I'd been having the support
of her family that her biological mother had passed away
days before. The thing is, she was told by a reporter,
a reporter that her biological mother passed away. That's how

(25:22):
she found out, and that was when she went and
you know, enjoyed some weed or whatever, just to you know,
deal with hearing this from some other person, just out
of the blue. And now she's looking at completely losing
her shot at at participating the Olympics. And it's just
so fucking dumb. Like I get that the rules are
the rules, but this is just such this like anti

(25:44):
weed stuff. It's like our prohibition on marijuana is just
so built around this pseudo scientific, racist nonsense, because let's
be real, it's not a performance enhancing drug. The only
fucking performance it's enhancing is like you watching a clip
of Santana on YouTube for some ship, or like if
you play a guitar, it's not, you're not you're not
You're not seeing the matrix in a track race and

(26:07):
now you're fucking muscles are working over time. So it's
just like really disheartening and just sort of underlines just
how behind we are in so many ways. Or if
you're hosting a podcast about nine D fiance, I should
I should chime in on your behalf there, But that's
an Olympic event, mhm. It Yeah, it's truly baffling. Like

(26:28):
alcohol is not a like if I guess you can't
test for alcohol, but it's not a band substance and
other than your coach probably telling you not to do
it because it's not going to make you faster, And
I would assume marijuana is the same way. That's it's
really strange, but not strange, I guess to be expected

(26:50):
based on like the history of racism around marijuana and
the present racism around marijuana. Yeah, I mean it's we
were aways talk about it as as past tense of
you know, why marijuana was banned in the first place,
you know, anti black, anti Mexican sentiments and all that,
and it's like where we have not even scratched the

(27:12):
surface of you know, the constant stigma that's still associated
with it. I watched a short clip of her saying,
you know, like this isn't I'm still young, I'm gonna
I'm gonna figure it out. I still have a lot
of races ahead of me, you know, to that effect,
and I'm just gonna I'll be back, you know. Yeah, gosh,

(27:36):
I it's so fucked up in every single way. And
I just constantly feel like everyone who speaks out about
it says a thing, and then nothing happens, you know,
like we'll, we'll weigh in, we'll we'll throw in our
two cents and go like, yeah, this is like this
is clearly you know, discrimination, and they're and they're picking

(27:57):
on people and and it's but then nothing happened. Like
we we all know, we all know the facts. We
all know this isn't a performance enhancing drug. We all
know why it was banned in the first place. We
know why alcohol was unbanned, you know, or maybe not,
Like sometimes I get smurky, you know, like prohibition ends

(28:17):
because of you know, pressure from probably some corporate shit
and there's just not enough of it here, or it's
cultural different people, right, like it's it's just funked up,
and everyone, I'm sorry that I'm ranting, and all I
can do is curse about it. But well, no, I mean,
it's just it's frustrating because you look at somebody who
is performing to the best of their abilities, you know

(28:38):
what it means to them, and then for them to
just get caught up in these relics of racist just nonsense,
to funk up your chances to represent the fucking country.
You think like that, this country is so focused on winning, Like,
shut the funk up cares that you're smoking weed. This
person is gonna win the fucking gold medal in the
one and that's what we're about to put our best

(29:00):
athletes out there. But you still there's still this like this,
we're still so intertwined with these backwards laws and I
don't know why. You know, again, we're not having I mean,
we are having this conversation, but the powers that be
aren't because I think at the end of the day,
you realize that they're not interested in understanding what is
equity or what is actually fair or not. They're probably

(29:21):
taking They like having mechanisms of suppression, they like having
that in place, They like have they like playing that
dumb game of chess that they think they're playing where
they're out smarting everybody and we all can see through it.
It's just that they're still in power and they could
still make they make the rules and change them at will.
So you know, if a certain person is caught, you know,

(29:43):
having an affair, it can be a huge scandal. If
if Trump, well, I mean I don't know the whole
cosmy thing. It's like, oh, thirty five women came out
against him and still it was overturned. So like it's
the rules app is, Yeah, Trump is in the choice,
Like the rules just don't fucking apply as long as

(30:05):
long as you have the money to support or or
the or just the power structure, it makes absolutely no sense.
The Olympics are are also just you know, straight trash. Yeah.
And and also to have that reporter question this athlete
and go like, you know, are like are you gonna apologize?

(30:28):
Like what are you gonna do? Like how do you feel?
How do you how did you know? Tell us about
how you disappointed everybody? Whatever? Like you know, she's going
home and drinking a boxed wine after that, like everyone
more like taking whatever pills her doctors prescribed her and
because those are legal, she's fine. And this girl smoked
weed on a legal state, not on the day that

(30:52):
she's competing either, right, Like marijuana stays in your system
for a bit. Okay, yeah, and that's such a good
point and recorder like probably yeah, And it is really
frustrating to see like the way it's being covered by
the media, the ap like unquestioning Lee just be you know,
the and then it almost feels like she is She's like, Okay, yeah,

(31:16):
I owned what I did. I made a mistake, and
like I'll be I'll bounce back. But like it's just
like why why why isn't anyone saying the obvious thing
that this is fucking down. You didn't make a mistake.
She didn't make a mistake. She I would say, she's
practicing self care in a tough in a in a
tough situation and taking care of herself while she's dealing

(31:41):
with all this you know, familial and mental stress, with
all of the pressure, the full pressure of her being
this star athlete that's going to go represent a country
that barely respects her. That's a lot of pressure. And
if all you do is smoke a little weed, holy ship, Like,
how how strong are you to just you know, yeah,

(32:05):
I think and it's yeah, it's it's only a mistake
in this narrow, stupid context of being an athlete and
all these weird fucking rules that they have that let's
face it, or mostly we're seeing, you know, athletes of
color be punished for these kinds of things. So it
makes you frustrate on so many levels because at the
end of the day, this is a human being who,
like you have to allow people to have the you know,

(32:28):
latitude to fucking take care of themselves or whatever. I get.
It's and especially in the context that isn't running a
foul of local laws or putting anyone in danger. So really,
what who is this protecting? And I think that the
way that you know, Jack, like you're saying that ap
is gonna be like, yeah, well violated the laws without
being like, yeah, well hold on, what the funk are

(32:49):
these laws? Though? Like what is what are these regulations for?
And noticed she had to say that in her in
our apology, I am a person. I'm a human being, right,
Like I'm obviously paraphrasing, but she was like, remember I'm
not you know, I'm a human firstly not a superhero,
but also not you're you know, not yours to do

(33:10):
with what you please, Like I'm not. I'm only here
because someone pushed me in front of the camera and
told me I had to be sorry for this, you know,
otherwise I want to run. Yeah, Like, yeah, it doesn't
even seem legal to be honest, because you can you
really punish somebody for something for for doing something legal

(33:33):
days before a performance and answering, Yeah, I'm sure this
is going to evolve over the you know, in the
next few days, because you know, she can appeal, and
I'm sure that would be your reason to say, Like,
I don't know, what do you do? You you know,
you want to see somebody run hot, like faster because
they're high or whatever, Like I don't know what that means. Also,
I'm going through things. Can you extend some empathy towards me? Also,

(33:57):
these laws are nonsense, So what are we doing here?
But yeah, I mean I think, I mean, the public
is definitely like outraged because they see this for what
it is. And like I think for most people now,
you know, the majority of society is like, what's the
problem with someone smoking weed? Like what are we talking
about here. We're not all our you know, sixth grade
teachers from like the nineties who are like, oh, and

(34:20):
maybe the silver lighting here is that she will maybe
be a trailblazer in that way, you know, maybe she
is the test case. Maybe she will turn it all
around because of public opinion and because of the situation here.
I think I hope that she will come out of

(34:40):
the stronger and more powerful and more successful because of
her situation and how she's handling it. Right, It's still
not fair, but I hope that is the outcome. That she,
you know, gets a book deal, gets a movie deal,
gets all these statues. You know, like that might be

(35:00):
the outcome. It's just not It shouldn't have happened and
it shouldn't be happening to everybody in similar situations. So
and like that is hopefully a silver lining that people
recognize that this shouldn't be fucking rule. But at the
same time, like, this is somebody who trains their whole

(35:22):
life to compete for these nine seconds, and which is
insane that she can do it in nine seconds, but
like and and to have that taken away from them,
it's just so fucking cruel. That's unbelievable. Yeah. And what's
also this idea of like the substances being banned comes
from like these paternalistic sort of perspective like, well, we're

(35:44):
looking after the athletes to like what's best for them.
But it's like, well, they have a lot more ship
on there if you're purely interested in the health of
the athletes, because it doesn't look like that, and it
just rings hollow. So you know, I honestly I hope
that they realized they you should ry Richardson at these Olympics,
you know, even though you know, fun the Olympics, they're
such a tortured event. But uh yeah, I I hope

(36:08):
you can run to carry That's a great wrap up
of this topic. Yeah, all right. I wanted to talk
about residential schools, and this is, you know, an ongoing
story that we're gonna continue talking about on this show.
But there's been a lot of coverage of the mass
graves of you know, Indigenous people and children discovered on

(36:32):
the grounds of former residential schools in Canada, and a
lot of the coverage has treated it as a uniquely
Canadian phenomenon. I think we even were like, god, damn,
this is like evil for Canada. Well, it turns out
America gave them the idea for Indian residential schools. As
early as eighteen nineteen, the United States was institutionalizing indigenous

(36:55):
genocide in the form of industrial schools and boarding programs,
and then a canade Indian prime minister sent a journalist
down to like document it, and they basically imported it
from America. They imported the idea and the ideology from America,
which is not shocking. But this writer, Abigail Kirby Conklin,

(37:18):
directly reached out and was like, Yo, you guys should
know that this is America is very complaxit in this
I mean, America's superpower, one of them is just to
point out a problem abroad and be like, I can't
believe that's happening there. Meanwhile, you started this ship right
and just yeah and be able to put the focus

(37:39):
on something else. I mean, yeah, whenever I'd read about him,
like where are the story is about? Because you know,
the US has a terrible track record with indigenous genocide,
so I'm curious when the media here begins to bring
it up. But it takes takes a lot for you know,
corporate media here to begin to talk about history or
how it relates to other countries. Yeah, it's like if

(38:01):
we if we just if we let it pass, nobody
will know that won't talk about it. So like the
Catholic Church, we know is like just a criminal institution,
you know, from even when all of those like white
kids were getting molested in Boston, Like they're a criminal
organization that that has built an entire empire on like

(38:25):
actual human misery and suffering. And it doesn't it doesn't
surprise me that that the pope or or many of
these sort of like religious figures are like well, you know,
everybody's nobody's perfect to kind of describe like murdering children
and taking them from their families, and the fact that

(38:46):
like a few of the churches have burned down, people
like oh my god, oh these churches. So it's like
you're lucky that all that they came for was the
building when you came for their children, Like, I don't
we do so so much pro clutching over like the
protection of children, but here are mass graves of children.

(39:07):
It's kind of like, yeah, well, what do you expect?
What do you want? It was a different time, right,
it's like, well, I don't know, it's kind of the
same now because we just it's it's just more technological
and now it's about separating people and families, and it's
it's it's the same energy. It's just manifesting in different ways.
And even to your point, I mean, like there's a
papal decree you know, before the colonization of the America's

(39:30):
where the pope was like, hey, Spain, Portugal, go do
your fucking thing over there. Enslave these people, convert them.
That's your right. I'm the pope. I'm out go do it.
Like that is like the all there's they go hand
in hand with each other. So I think the first
episode that I that I was here with you guys
on like I was talking about my indigenous ancestry and

(39:51):
like so that in itself like sort of touches my history.
I was I was reading and you know, like a
lot of the documentation that we have a out the
Michigan Empire, what people call the Aztecs, because the Aztecs
were like a federation. They weren't called Aztecs, that were Michiga,
and there were several different tribes and they were like
a Federation of Communities when when the Spanish came, Like

(40:13):
there's there's an account written by a Spaniard where it's like, well,
we were welcomed into Lan with like incense, miko because
they thought we were gods. And like the the ego
and the arrogance on top of that, and it's like
they didn't think you were gods. You smelled like you didn't.

(40:34):
Bay were filthy. You were filthy. They had working sewage system.
They were essentially spraying you with axe body spray on
pond entry and you didn't get the hint. They perfume
us like we are there, like we are stinky pieces
of colonizers shit and so but it's like but but
it's like that's the record that that persisted that you know,

(40:56):
because a lot of the stuff was burned, A lot
of the stuff was destroyed, and a lot of indigenous
history tends to be oral, or it tends to be
passed down through stories, storytelling. So like the the Catholic
Church giving giving Spain and giving Portugal permission to sort
of like go to town, go ham On, you know,
my ancestors was like was part of that sort of

(41:17):
that was part of that of that record keeping. I
guess it's like, you know, oh, these these people are
are savages and these people are you know, they had
to they had to come up with a story to
justify what they wanted to get done. And it's tragic
that like that is the story that gets passed down

(41:39):
in schools or just like the top surface level of
like history. So when when we talk about indigenous people
or we talk about you know, sort of the the
atrocities that happened to us, like there's just that top
soil level of like, well, you guys weren't even really
civilized anyway, and you know, well you guys were just
roaming around in the woods Thanksgiving, like everyone killed together.

(42:02):
So the problem is like I think we were just
more lit and it's just sort of all of these
all of these like colonial sort of it's like, well,
why don't you why don't you just ask any of
us like there, you know, ye go directly to the source.
It's not like it's not like we disappeared. It's wild
like that you talk about that, because I remember one
of my first like history classes in college was about

(42:23):
Iberian history. So we're talking about Spain and you know,
colonization of the Americas and things like that. And I
remember this is in college. This person raised their hand
when we were talking about Indigenous people and they're being
and then being enforced conversions and things like that. This
person was so sincerely confused in this lecture class raised
their hand and out loud asked, well, didn't the indigenous

(42:45):
people want to be converted to Christianity? Like as if
you could tell that this person's entire life was spent
believing this one thing that they didn't think it was
a hot take. They were sincerely confused in a class
about the you know, America's But then they're saying, but
I thought they wanted to And you realize, yeah, that's

(43:06):
that's a lot of the ship that we have to
spend our time overcoming is these lies that were told. Yeah,
if that's your automatic perception of of Native people pre colonization,
then nothing's a genocide, Then nothing's terrible, then nothing, you know,
a humanitarian crime. Yeah, we were doing them a favor.
And the idea that all these things are lost to history,

(43:28):
Like there are entire histories that are untranslated because nobody
bothered to learn the languages and read them. And it's
also like this idea like that that idea that they
are less advanced, that their civilizations were less advanced. Like
they they were more advanced, they were cleaner, they had

(43:49):
sewage systems. The only reason that they died is because
of like there there was a lot of obviously like
military brutality, but it was they were weakened by play,
Like it was just the luck of the draw of
the German the germ theory that basically sucked them over.

(44:11):
And it was like nine of the continent was depopulated.
And that's the reason, not it's not that there was
like better much better technology or yeah, because yeah, like
it literally they like the Michigan Empire built an island.
They built an island in the middle of a lake

(44:32):
to like the epicenter of trade. Like I don't know
how you get more advanced than that. Yeah, how about
ship in your double loom or the or you know
the folks in like Arizona and New Mexico who like
you know, built cities into the into the mountains, Like yeah,
there's there's so many there's so many sites and structures

(44:52):
and things will never know about because they were because
they were dismantled because they were destroyed, and like our
the lifestyle was forevery for every Obviously I'm not going
to speak for for every every injigious person or where
wherever they come from, but like lifestyles were just different
than you know, like these sort of permanent, massive structures

(45:14):
to like pat yourself on the back of how awesome
you are didn't exist for a lot of people. Like
you know, some people were nomadic. Some people were sort
of like oh we have we know, we go where
we follow the food. Like like just doing any sort
of actual research that like oral oral history that's been
that's been written and documented by other indigenous people, like

(45:37):
there's there's so much to learn and there's so much
like when you truly understand like how fucked over we
were in terms of like Jack was saying, like yes,
the smallpox devastated the population, but there were also government
programs both from Spain, both from Portugal and the and
the United States, like the intent really killing buffalo to

(46:01):
starve natives, you know, being able to these residential schools
literally being able to purchase Native children like for ten dollars.
Like it's multifaceted in in the way that the genocide
occurred and is still going because of because of like
I know, you know people in the Nabato Nation, like

(46:23):
who don't have clean water, Like they don't have running water,
they don't have paved roads in a lot of places,
like the US government like literally like killing them out
of neglect because it was sort of like, oh, you
want to be your own autonomous nations, fine, go ahead,
but don't ask us for anything. Yeah. Yeah, it's like sure,
we took all of this, all of us away from

(46:44):
me and told you we were gonna pay you for it.
But right, we're just gonna stick you over here and
let you do your own thing. We'll pass. We'll get
to check to you sometime. Yeah, America doesn't remember because
it doesn't want to remember, because this is the DNA
of America. Is that So they incarcerated thousands of indigenous children,
Like we still have a country that is built on

(47:09):
mass incarceration. There's the imprisonment of migrants along our border
with Mexico during World War two. Like it's just repeating
structures within American society that we don't want to examine
and fix because that's how the society works essentially. But

(47:31):
with specifically with indigenous people. It's really like just go fun,
go look up Cohokia and the they built a striped
mountain that was like made of various colors of soil
and clay that they had brought from like hundreds of
miles away in St. Louis. That like put the Great

(47:52):
Pyramid of Giza or the pyramids in Egypt to shame.
And the reason that like you've never heard of that
is because they were about to build a fucking parking
lot on it when somebody realized what was happening. Cokey
was like the biggest city in the world during the

(48:12):
twelve And America systematically and intentionally doesn't want to honor
these histories because they were erased for a reason. And
you know that there's still a lot of America's ideals
that are that are tied up in the reasons that

(48:33):
it was erased and why you never learned how advanced
indigenous civilizations were. But it's actively being ignored, it's actively
being written out of the news, out of history, and
people just aren't bothering to study this stuff because it

(48:53):
kind of contradicts, you know, the central American ideal. I
guess sceptional it can't be exceptional if you're mediocre in
comparison to the indigenous people, that you're just moved into
a like apocalyptic society and like moved into people's houses
like fucking Goldilocks and started like just pretended like you

(49:16):
did all the work yourself. Yeah. Anyways, we will continue
to cover that as America hopefully deals with its own
history of residential schools. I mean, it's wild to think
there's more of a concerted effort to not teach history
at the moment, and you know, like that's picking up
so much space, especially on the conservative side. Is this

(49:37):
whole thing, you know, like when you especially what is
it relates to critical race theory that's not even being
taught in elementary schools, but it's there. They know that
it's on the subconscious of a lot of conservatives. They
know it's like they don't talk about the terrible stuff
because then that that that sort of helps bolster the
arguments that we are backwards and we need to change. Yeah, alright,

(49:59):
let's take a quick break and we'll be right back,
and we're back, and let's talk about Netflix currently. You
know they've got well, first of all, the second season
of I think you should leave. Just dropped, so I'm

(50:22):
very excited about that. But um, when you look at
the top ten, for the most part, it's a lot
of reality shows. Our new producer DJ Dramas was pointing
out that Too Hot to Handle is constantly trending in
the top five because they just dropped season two of that,
which is the hot people try not to have sex

(50:43):
with each other reality show where where a hundred thousand
dollars is that is at risk or you know, they're
competing to win a hundred thousand dollars And yeah, Miles,
you were you were reading somewhere that it's just like Netflix,
maybe more the safe like CBS version. Yeah, which is

(51:04):
funny in this right of and wired about Netflix. Like
every paragraph whoever wrote this, I'm just gonna pack them
up by name, because they were clearly I think you
should leave now, fans, because every like opportunity there was
to talk about, I mean, the only thing to watch
on Netflix is obviously I think you should leave season two.
And then like three paragraphs later it's like, and I

(51:24):
mean we're not for shows like maybe I think you
should leave season two that's about to drop. Netflix might
not have anything, and I just love when people like
are hardcore. So Kate NIBBs, I see you you, Tim
Robinson stand I love the energy. But in this piece
was writing, you know, globally, Netflix is the dominant streamer
like that, that's just without the shadow of a doubt
when we look at the the Nielsen ratings, like that's reflected.

(51:47):
It's like Netflix is the default top ten and then
if another streamer has a like big movie or a
big show come out, they will sometimes crack the top
ten for like a week and then it goes back
to all Netflix. But now you know, they're saying with HBO,
Max and Disney plus they're finding their kind of rhythm
in terms of original of original releases and like many

(52:09):
news services coming online because it used to be like,
well at least Netflix has a lot of stuff. Now
it's becoming like if you like horror, if you want anime, like,
you're probably not gonna go to Netflix. You go to
like crunchy roll or something like that. And then in
the summer they had like a lot of the movies
are coming on HBO Max, Mortal Kombat, that Mortal Kombat
film came out, the Godzilla and Versus Kong film came out,

(52:30):
and like those did numbers that apparently made the Army
of the Dead on Netflix just seemed like a mild hit.
And so all of this together they're kind of saying, like, well,
it seems like it's sort of Netflix has definitely lost
its place in terms of like the prestige area, and
if even if you want to talk about them wanting
to be a full fledged film studio, Amazon just went

(52:51):
and bought a whole ass film studio in MGM. So
they're like, how are they going to keep up? Because
it seems like now they're real big hits, are I
think you should leave? And maybe and Sexy Beasts where
the people wearing like prosthetics to look like animals and
ship that dating showing. They're like, where has the prestige gone?
Mm hmm, Yeah, it's interesting, I mean, and when you

(53:13):
look at what like they have all these accidental hits
like that art film in quotes from the guy who
directed Into the Void, but the premise was it's a
art film where people are actually having sex. And then
there was the sixty five Days, which was just a

(53:33):
softcore porn Those were like among their top ten shows,
So I mean, they acquire a lot of content and
then just let the let the people sort it out.
And supposedly they make their programming and like what they
invest in decisions based on what people tell them they want.
So yeah, it's it's just sort of what happens when

(53:54):
you're your commissioning is done by an algorithm. Like there
are so many student dio execs or whatever it Netflix,
but it's like what do they do? They take meetings
with people, then go into a big room with you know,
a smart board with mass equations happening, and then come
back out and say, sorry, right, I don't Yeah, it's
this because even I think about it, I've looked at

(54:17):
through the prism of stand up comedy, there was that
window where if you've got to stand up comedies fecihal
on Netflix, it was this close to sort of like
getting on Carston or Letterman, you know, eons ago, where
it was like there was a certain amount of prestige
attached to that. But now it's as though it's it's
nowhere near. I mean, I don't think that they streamed
the same numbers, and it's just not like they give

(54:40):
out those huge deals to your Chappell's or your Signfelds
or whatever. But for for ordinary communities it's still fantastic.
But it's just there's no care or attention paid to it.
It's like, this is one of the cheapest things that
we can commission, and I guess we'll give it a
go and if people watch it, then we'll notice it
coming back, right, And they're and they're kind of and
Netflix is in a new phase. You know, they're no

(55:00):
longer borrowing money for the first time. That was always
a thing where it's like where is all what are
they doing? But you know, I think this is part
of their long term strategy. And yeah, things like Disney
Plus and HBO Max even Paramount Plus they're siphoning away
people's like watch time, Like it's funny, like I have Netflix,
but again I'm really only watching. You'll probably watch I

(55:21):
think you should leave, or Sexy Beasts or the f
One Show or something like that. It's only like a
couple of things. I feel like I need Netflix before,
whereas you know, ask me seven years ago, I was like,
oh my god, man, you're not fucking Netflix, Like what
the fund do you do? Like how do you live?
And again these analysts are looking at it as because
they're just they're so ubiquitous and now globally they just

(55:41):
have such a lion share of the eyeballs that it's
just going to be more like CBS, where they were
like the first to broadcast. But now people are just like,
I don't know, like it's it's around, but I'm not.
I don't funk with CBS because I think it's cool.
It just happens to be the biggest thing. Yeah, and well,
I mean the way that these other streaming apps are
pubbing up and qualifying their place, it's like there's only

(56:04):
so much money in people's wallets with Eventually you have
to you know, you can't just you have to choose,
and you can't just choose something because it's got one
show you go to your friends and watch it. But
like you can't just be like, I'm going to get
Netflix because they're gonna have a new season of Tim
Robinson's showing another year or two years. It doesn't make
any sense. But here I am waiting for Tim waiting

(56:28):
no more. I know you gotta out today as we
record this. Yeah, you gotta meet out your your value
you're getting from the show because there's a year's worth
of Netflix subscription distilled into six episodes. I flew through them.
I mean when the first season came out, I probably
just watched the first season three times over just because

(56:49):
like the replay value was like it was infinite for
a while, and I had to do the thing where
I didn't want to start memorizing all of the bits
like with other things I've watched, because then I just
find myself forming along with my TV rather than being
like an audience because I like it so much. I'm like,
oh man, if he tagged me and I could do
this sketch with him. It's just like it's a real
advertisement for stupidity that show, because it is the stupidest

(57:12):
show on television and also the best, and it's not
a coincidence. Well, you can't be that. That's the irony
of it, is like you have to be really smart
to be able to pull off the Ship. That's that dumb,
you know. It's not just like, oh man, look at
this bozo just falling over himself. It's like, no, like
you gotta like that's the I think that's why I

(57:33):
really loved Ship when I watched this is so it's
also but it's good it's a performance style as well,
because it's just it's such every character is so entrenched
in there, you know, in themselves. This commitment to everything
is so real. It's just like you can't look away
because it's like these these beautiful little car crashes with

(57:55):
the drivers. I mean literally in one sketch was like
the driver saying there wasn't a car crash, which is
so perfect for our country. A car crash happens like
it clearly wasn't me, even though everyone saw him do it. Yeah,
I think there's a reason that that resonates with people,
stupid people making embarrassing mistakes and then refusing to admit it.

(58:18):
For some reason that that resonates with the modern world.
I had a kind of related streaming question with regards
to so it seems like all Pixar movies from now
on are just coming out without like they're just gonna
be Disney plus products. And I feel like that's like
there's this new Luca one about like a kid who's

(58:39):
a sea monster that is apparently a metaphor for like
lgbt Q, like you know, being Yeah, it's a meta
full for Disney acknowledging that queenness exists in the world. Exactly, yes, exactly,
but it's like it's just gonna be dropped on Disney Plus.

(59:00):
It seems like and that's what happened with Soul, they
dropped it for free. And I don't know, it feels like,
do you guys feel like it's devaluing like Pixar movies,
Like it just feels like it's less of an event
now when picks are like Onward came out last year
and like that wasn't really a big thing. I think

(59:20):
that came out before the pandemic, so it hit theaters.
But I don't know. I think there's a few things
happening out. Imagine it's a response to the fact that
they're not going to pull huge numbers at the cinema.
And then also there's some element that it could be
a marketing strap. It's like Uber gave out really cheap
cab rides for a while, so everyone was, man, I

(59:41):
can't believe all these cab rides are so cheap, and
then they're like, okay, are we the only thing you
use is this how you get around? Now, Well, guess
what cab rides because seventy dollars now and you go,
what the fund is this? Oh yeah, and the drivers
were subjecting them to hell yeah, it just sucks that
they're lost. Leader is like the most artistically valid thing

(01:00:04):
that they were creating as a studio. I feel like
in in Pixar movies, like they're just like, yeah, I
will just like throw the slop out to the kiddies,
and by treating it like that, because apparently I was
listening to like an industry watcher talk about how even
though these movies could make a lot at the box office,
the most valuable thing to them is stock price, and

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the only thing that draws drive stock price is subscriber numbers.
It's not like if you have a hit at the
box office. So now they're basically all they care about
is driving like Disney plus subscription numbers. So they're going
to like not even release some of these things into
movie theaters even when movie theaters open back up. It's
so grim that the world is being run by old

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white guys who are just running around following maths right exactly,
all in the name of fucking shareholder value. Like even
now we have things, they're just like no, no, no,
what do you kid me. You're gonna put a movie
in a movie theater where people are gonna go, and
you'll make millions, possibly billions of dollars. No, no, not
fam We need to We need the subscriber numbers to

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go up so these fucking day traders and everybody else
who are in on our stock, then they can feel good.
That's what we're in the business for. We're no longer
Disney other thing to watch a movie, and he will
watch a movie once in a day. But all right,
that's gonna do it. For this week's weekly Zeitgeist. Please

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like and review the show. If you like the show,
uh means the world two miles. He he needs your validation, folks.
I hope you're having a great weekend and I will
talk to him Monday. By S.