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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of The
Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from
this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment last stravaganza.
Uh yeah, So, without further ado, here is the Weekly Zeitgeist.
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Really all right, let's get into what people are thinking
and talking about right now around the world. In America
more specifically, at the end of last week, there was
another shooting in Santa Fe High School in Texas, and yeah,
we're just another round of the debate that is getting
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pretty Yeah, it's just crazy. Like as I was just
kind of writing about this up for us to talk
about how like I was kind of taking a flip
in angle or just I think it just speaks to
sort of the exhaustion that we have that we're still
just in this fucking cycle of shooting and then dumb
maass finger pointing of anything but the fucking guns, anything
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but that last time it was I don't even know
what it was the new talking point, it seemed like
on on the Sunday shows because the n r A
had to get all their people out to start spending
this recent shooting to be anything but the guns. Uh,
seemed to be mostly video games and movies. Now was
like the I guess Scapegoat Jour and Riddling? Yeah, so
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I guess the first. Yeah, Ali North, who is the
new n A president and o G gun smuggler of America.
He went on Fox and Yeah blamed Riddling in a
bunch of us. Check out this explanation. We're trying, like
the Dickens, to treat the symptom without treating the disease.
And the disease in this case isn't the Second Amendment.
The disease is youngsters who are steeped in a in
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a culture of violence. Uh, they've been drugged in many cases.
Nearly all of these perpetrators are male and their young
teenagers in most cases, and they've come through a culture
where violence is commonplace. All we need to do is
tart on the TV, go to a movie. If you
look at what has happened to the young people, many
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of these young boys have been on Riddle instance, they
were in kindergarten. Uh, that's such a hard left on.
Like it's like he even started like making a good
point of like all these young shooters are male, all
these young right that there could be a discussion about
what toxic masculinity is and things like that, right, but
then it turns into a riddlin. It's just well, later
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on he goes, well, look, I'm not a doctor, I'm
a marine, so blah blah blah, and it's almost like, well, then,
don't fucking begin to speculate as to what really one
has to do with any of this. Uh so, anything
but the guns. And then it seemed like this was
kind of a theme because then the lieutenant Governor of Texas, who,
by the way, when he was aeutenant governor was like
in a real battle to fight again to gender neutral
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bathrooms side note went on to blame I think now
it's abortions in video games. So north was writtening in
video games, and then this is the lieutenant governor of Texas.
We have devalued life, whether it's through abortion, whether it's
the breakup of families through violent movies and particularly violent
video games, which now out sell movies and and music. Uh.
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Psychologists and psychiatrists will tell you that students are desensitized
to violence. Um may have lost empathy for their victims
by watching hours and hours of video violent games. George
of teenagers, according to psychiatrists and psychologists watch video games
and eighty five or some of those are violent games.
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And then, of course, George, we have our schools that
are not hard targets. Okay, is he the guy who
then went on to blame the number of doors in
the school. Yeah, he was like, there're too many points
of entry to just be like a prison. Yeah. The
doors thing really puts into perspective how far they will
go to blame literally everything other than guns, and they're
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literally running out of new vantage points to like come
at this issue without tackling the actual issue, which is
why I feel like if we're getting into like the
b sides of shitty arguments with like rittling and then
recycling old points, it's just it's crazy. Yeah. And also
that theory that it's the media and video games, and
George Stephanopolis goes on to say, well that media is
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available all around the world, these video games are available
all around the world, yet this still seems to be
a uniquely American problem. It isn't it an access to
guns thing? And he was like abortion, like whatever. So yes, again,
blame everything but the guns. And again, if you want
to come for people's video games, then you'll see some
people fucking go crazy. Man, don't come for the games. Okay,
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I'm telling you right now. I love my games and
I'm not these are not. It's such a sort of
dated idea too, because this that video game media thing
has been studied so hard because people want it to
be video game so bad because people It's the same
way that when comic books came out, you know, there
was this governmental commission into comic books and how they
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were like corrupting the youth. Well, now video games are
the new thing. They wanted so bad for video games
to be a cause of violence or caused people to
be desensitized to violence, and statistics and studies have shown
either that there's no correlation or that it's the exact opposite.
And basically, by keeping people who have violent urges in
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their homes doing violence on video games, you actually cut
down on actual violence. So it's been like a national
initiative to like get that opinion to take for so
long time. I was the last time I was home,
I found an essay that I had written in the
fifth grade where it was like we were studying in
school why video games are bad for you, and like
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here's what I like. I was like, really, we've been
doing this for like, oh, like your teachers were having
you write about that. Yeah. Like it was like, uh,
it must have been some unit that we were taught
because I found an essay I wrote when I was
ten about why like video games is bad. Yeah. Yeah,
we we wanted to talk about the upcoming meetings between
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Donald Trump and North Korean Later, Kim Jong un, Miles,
you had some interesting updates from me eating about this,
and I'm it follows a pattern Donald Trump really likes,
which is spiking the football when you're on the fifty
yard line right like you scored the motherfucking touchdown and
not even in the red zone, my guy. Uh So,
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look the past few weeks he has been pumping up
his old little pep talking about I'm the real peacemaker.
I should get a Nobel prize. Uh. You know, these
guys are about to fully d nuke because of me,
blah blah blah. And now we're starting to get reports
that Donald Trump is kind of starting to get cold
feet because he's worried that this thing could turn in
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to an embarrassment. And there are a couple of things
to look at why this could possibly seem Again, we
talked about how dangerous it was for people with very
fragile egos to meet up and begin to make concessions.
So first of all, like you know, when Mike Pompey
had his secret meetings, it seemed like the news came
out of there was pretty good that North korew was
open to completely denuclearizing. And you know, again, Donald Trump
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got that football out, started raising his arm, and then
John Bolton went hunt TV and started saying buzzwords like Libya,
which are on the no no list when it comes
to North Korea, because that is the exact scenario that
Kim Jong lun wants to avoid. And then the North
Korean chief negotiator was basically kind of making clear is like,
you know, the idea of total nuclearization probably not gonna happen.
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So that worried Trump to the point that he called
President Moon of South Korean was like, but earlier he
said he was gonna do that. What's going on? No, no, no,
And so that started to add a little bit to
his nervousness because also, as we've said before that he
is so thirsty for like a real political win, like
one that even people on the left or like, you
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know what, Okay, maybe you did, maybe you did pull
that off. And just in general, he needs something to
really hang his two pay on, and he doesn't really
have that. So now this is kind of getting a
little bit more nervous because of the just desperate need
for the optics of him being an effective leader. And
then when you add to that also that he knows
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functionally fuck all about the North Korea nuclear program. It's
a little worrying too because there are a lot of
aids writing about how he just is like doesn't really
understand the complexities of the nuclear program and that how
that could hinder him when he's trying to actually negotiate
things because there's things like you know, uranium enrichment and
plutonium reprocessing and things like that that are vital parts
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of like of making these kinds of deals. And you know, meanwhile,
he was like trying to take credit or just be like, oh,
you know, well, they're they're going to close this one
test site, you know, because of the pressure that was
like a site that had like literally collapsed under the
sheer like nuclear testing induced earthquakes that was going on.
So that really wasn't much of a win. So a
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lot of these are kind of coming together to sort
of create a mood around the White House that Trump
is sort of worried that he's not going to be
able to do the thing where he flies in on
a golden Eagle to Singapore tells Kim Jong, you know,
hand over the keys to the nukes, and then he
flies back being like, okay, American number one piece achieved
level five liter uh achievement unlocked. So I don't know,
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we'll see what happens. These Again, these aren't things that
he's like actually said, oh, we should cancel it, but
these are the grumblings and rumblings around the White House
that he's increasingly kind of begin he's starting to get
a little insecure about the meeting. Well, I think I
think from his point of view, the meeting will go.
You know, he'll get there and he'll be like, Okay,
I will show you my PP, you show me your PP.
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Whoever has bigger PP wins the meeting, And maybe he's
learned getting some intel that someone has a bigger PP
than or just knows how to actually negotiate, because this
is like all part of his thing. My God, it's
like the same thing with just as an aside is
the trade war with China. Like he just announced that
he's gonna put the trade war quote on hold because
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like some not real concessions that Chinese made, they just
sort of like sort of suggested that they may increase
purchasing certain crops or whatever, and that was enough for
trying to be like, Okay, let's put the trade war
on hold. Meanwhile, the whole entire campaign, he was like, Oh,
China is screwing us. We are gonna really hit them,
We're going to punish them. And he has also just
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like completely just sort of caved at the first sign
of pressure or whatever. I don't know, we'll see what happens,
but this seems like the trend of him being Leon
let in that fateful Super Bowl match where Don Beade
comes behind him and strips the football from him before
he can even get to the zone. Right, he's celebrating
at the one yard line, and I feel like it's
actually more like that kicker who jumped up to celebrate
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a like earl least season field goal and tour his
m c L because because it's not it's he had
a small success very early in the process and celebrated
it and celebrated it so hard that he has now
sort of fucked himself in terms of confidence. Also just
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in terms of the leaking, because this is something that
just comes up over and over again when it comes
to the coverage of this White House. It's pretty remarkable
that the people preparing him for a historic summit with
North Korea are just talking open ship about him, being like,
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he doesn't know what the funk he's talking about, He's
scared about that, and he's incompetent. What the funk are
we gonna do? People who are siding with him seem
to think that this is because there's some deep state
conspiracy against him. Is that more likely or is it
more likely that he treats everyone around him like ship
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and everyone who is working with him sees up close
how incompetent he is and are scared for the future
of our country. That's exactly because the leaking is not
a single person who has some agenda. The leaking is
just everywhere. No matter where Trump is, someone's going to
be like, Uh, you're not gonna believe what the funk
this guy just said about exactly, Well, that just seems
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like long game thinking on everyone's part too, because it's
like you won't I mean, hopefully there's someone in the
White House who has uh the better interest of people,
although I'm not convinced that's true, but like you know,
like a couple of years on when the Trump thing
is ideally behind as they want to be able to
be like, well, I said something. Look remember when I
lead something I said, I'm not I'm not that bad.
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I'm complisite, but I'm not bad. I was that anonymous source. Yeah,
I was source from this New York Times article. There
were people are going to come back and claim that
they where the source, like when this Nightmar's well, that's
kind of like how those suspicious activity reports that Michael
Avinadi got his hands on with Michael Cohen, that was
someone at the Treasury Department, I think or SEC. I
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forget anyway, someone there who was monitoring that gave it
to him because he's like I felt that some of
the activity reports are being like suppressed and not coming out,
and they were like this is fucking bad and just
was like here and check this out. So I feel
like at many levels there are people who yeah, who
have been like lifelong servants of certain departments and are
just like this cannot stand. There was a article towards
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the end of last week. I think it was from
the Washington Post. I need to find that and we'll
put it in footnote. But the journalist went and asked
these people who are sources on the Trump White House,
why do you leak? And what is it like being
a leaker in this White House? And it was interesting.
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The reasons they leak are basically what you would expect
then for the few the country and you know. But
then the ways they leak are really interesting too, because
they will study quotes by people who they work with
and use vocal ticks of the people they work with
to cover their tracks to make it seem like they're
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not the leaker and that the other person might be
the leaker. So they'll look at quotes from somebody and
then use that voice, that voice essentially to give direct
quotes to the White House. Well wild Adam Sandlery approach
to leaking information. I don't think they do an exact
like you know, I am it's met. One of the
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podcasts I was listening to, I think it was The
Ringer Weekly podcast with David Shoemaker where they do a
media deep dive. I think they were speculating this could
be somebody who realized they betrayed themselves with a leaking quote,
and then we're like, yeah, I cover my basis by
pretending to be that other guy. Yeah. So I don't know,
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but it's an interesting time to Leak culture is fascinating.
Weird hacker culture is fascinating. I think that you know,
we should just if if you're leaking, you're hacking, just
visually identify yourself by getting frosty tips and wearing tiny,
tiny little sunglasses and only way easier for us to
break these stories. But the other amazing thing is that
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all almost a lot of these people who are leaking
have to have been put there by the president himself.
And this is something that we're also seeing, and I
want to move on briefly to the Mueller investigation. We
keep seeing the conservative base sort of assuming that people
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who Trump has appointed, who were high aired by him,
given the job by him, are in a vast conspiracy
to take him down for reasons that nobody is clear on.
I think I've now heard that Mueller is out to
get him. Because Mueller is friends with Komey and he
wants to get back at him for that. But it's
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not clear why Rosenstein is out to get him because
Trump hired him and pointed him. And you're saying the
sort of conservative people are spinning that like these appointees
are Actually I thought you were saying that there is
this concerted effort. No, I'm just saying, yeah, the conservative
take on this. In order to explain away all of
these sourced leaks that are pointing to just vast incompetence
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and corruption, they're having to formulate this quote deep state
cover up, that is this vast conspiracy that is all
out to get him and coordinating to create this narrative.
But Trump would have had to hire all these various
conspirators on his own and put them in place for
that to be true. Well yeah, or they just have
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the complete disregard for the fact that, yes, many of
these people are in positions that were appointees or whatever
or lifelong Republicans. So I guess it's at this point,
you know, because the stories get worse and worse, or
just the smoke is getting more intense, and the coincidences,
if you want to call them, coincidences become more and
more frequent, it's harder to imagine a version of events
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that you know is completely benign. This weekend there were
revelations that I assumed, we're going to take the entire country,
both the fort that approves of Trump and that disapproves
of Trump, in the direction of, well, let's see this
Mueller thing out, let's see this Puller investigation now. But
instead it seems to be a case where things are
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continuing to every piece of evidence causes both sides to
accelerate in the opposite direction. Right. We've talked before about
how this is one of the key ingredients for civil war,
is when you have two separate sides of the country
and everything that each side here's takes them further and
further apart. And so this morning there was a huge
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op ed that is the number one trending article on
the Hill, that is a former Democratic Party operative named
Mark Penn who is saying it's time to end the
Muller investigation. He basically lays out the argument that I've heard,
the conservative argument is fairly consistent against the Mueller investigation,
that it's this deep state thing and that there was
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never evidence in the first place, and never evidence that
anybody can point to in concrete terms. And the latest,
you know, revelations of meetings at Trump Tower where Donald
Trump Jr. Opened the meeting with a Russian Kremlin operative
by saying, I hear you have information for us. Uh.
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That doesn't it doesn't play into doesn't add any fuel
to the suspicion that something might be going on here.
And now there's evidence of more conversations that happened at
Trump Tower. Uh. This this new meeting was between the
guy who headed up Blackwater and Prince Betsy Devas's brother
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Eric Prince the just shadiest dude in the world, and
an operative from the UAE and Saudi Arabia. This guy
George Nader and a social media expert for a firm
which employed several Israeli former intelligence officers who specialized in
collecting information and shaping opinion through social media, which is
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a fancy way of describing social media manipulation campaign. Yes,
and I literally can't keep all these people we need
like a guess who board it's really people. I can't
keep it straight. There's not enough red string, right, and
it's crazy because there's just this a abundance of information
that is like, well, that's clearly the behavior of a
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guilty person. But anyways, so it is technically illegal for
a campaign for a public office in America to work
with foreign foreign money. And these conversations have people saying,
you know, the social media expert being like, we will
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here's our multimillion dollar proposal to help your father become
president and just because then he will allow us to
continue the factory. Uh yeah, because I'm sure it's a
very clear choice. If you're like, do you want a
world where Hillary Clinton is the president and is going
to try and enforce things or some guy who's sleazy
and can literally you can just pull up to Trump
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Town and be like, hey, how much you need man,
because let's work something out. I do need the people
who are you know, thet who are critical of Trump
to just be a little bit more focused, because I
feel like you're hearing all of the information, just all
these different stories. And for instance, there was a story
a couple of weeks ago where a judge came after
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Mueller about Manafort and how how do you justify going
after man Afford It has nothing to do with the case,
And that was the last I heard of that story.
But apparently they explained their case to the judge and
the judge was like, oh, okay, I get it, and
they moved on from that. But that was a key
piece of evidence, I think because the forty two percent
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that approve of Trump have fewer pieces of evidence and
so they like cling to them and use them more carefully,
whereas the people who actually think there might be something
here in the Muller investigation are just they're just burning
through every new revelation like it's junk food. They are.
They are doing the Homeland thing. They got their wall
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set up with all the red string, right, and yeah
and on. I think on the other side, for conservatives,
if there aren't like real indictments or things like that,
they're not really paying attention to those kinds of developments
because that's again just part of the noise of this
witch hunt that they don't care about because nothing happened.
It's you're at the Mueller cook out and you're serving
up nothing burgers. And like then then making too much
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noise around any single story always works because yeah, like
are critical of Trump just get exhausted, Like if you
scream in someone's ear, about some stuff that's relevant and
some stuff that isn't. For long enough, it's like you
just get you know, like people, Yeah, you get exhausted.
And I don't know. And if you're like me, lose
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track of who's who because there's a new name every
two seconds and there are people entering the story and
people we can't accept you to keep up. I mean,
you're you're a woman on the go. You have to
do quick. You know, shallow grave barriers. I got to
take a shallow grave on my way home. The revolving
door of characters you have to keep track of is
so complex, and I understand why people get exhausted, but
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it's also like, yeah, that's what they want, and I
think I have too, especially like as we talk about
it more and more and I sort of slowly have
just adopted the mentality to kind of like, look, yes,
let's investigate this. I can't put all all of this
faith in this that this is going to correct everything,
because I don't think it will. And also I don't
I don't know if how much political will there is
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in d C to actually do anything to bring this
president in at least not until the mid terms. Yeah,
I think It's partially that because there is less evidence
on the side of the fort, they just have a
single argument that they're relying. Therefore, it becomes more coherent
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and it has the appearance of their argument being more disciplined,
whereas the left's case is sort of constantly evolving because
there's all this evidence and new stories piling in. I
also think it has to do with the fact that
we've brought up before on the show. The left doesn't
have a single opinion based outlet, that is, they're clear
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and obvious, you know, mouthpiece the way that the right
does it. In Fox News. You know, the left is
still led by journalistic institutions, and journalistic institutions just have
the mission statement of reporting facts, not coming up with
a coherent argument one way or another. And I think
that also keeps things somewhat scattered because I think also,
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I mean, even with MSNBC obviously being the most left leaning,
you'll get versions of it, but they don't quite venture
into the world of fantasy like Fox does. Uh. You know,
it's it's very raw, raw Democrats on MSNBC that and
sometimes you know, people like Laurence O'Donnell completely overlooked things
which whatever, But I think, yeah, I know what you mean.
There's nothing, there's nothing that's quite as aggressive as the
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sort of media machine on the right. It's a yeah,
it's and it's a lose lose because they're like oversimplifying
stuff to the point of like fantasy and forest and craziness.
And it's like, you don't want that for the left.
But what is a way to present, uh, you know,
everything you need to know and and filter out the
noise Like it's so it's so hard to do. I
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think the only way to do it is for everybody
to listen to the daily thank you, that's what we're
here for for just really unchecked. But even on the
side of dates, yeah, even on the side of MSNBC,
MSNBC is just another voice in this coophony of different
sources that people on the left to pay attention to.
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Whereas the right, it's like the whole Republican Party has
a very disciplined information architecture that is coming down from
Fox News. And you know, Fox News's loudest voice speaks
to the president every night to like decompress. And Fox
News was started by Roger Ales, who was a Republican
political operative for Nixon and was like, there's room for
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me to create a political machine and you know, make
it a key player in politics. Well, and he's sure.
Our podcast is still bigger than the Fox News podcast.
So you know we're on our way. Yeah, we're gonna
nail this. Uh yeah, Russell Limboff doesn't have ship on us.
What are you saying? All Right, we're gonna He's been
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the whole time I'm here, this handfuls of Okay, I
only I only ride the yellow submarine. Alright, we're gonna
take a quick break and we'll be right back, and
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we're back. We wanted to talk about something that sixty
minutes has covered a lot of different you know, respected
journalistic outlets have covered the possibility that the upcoming election
will be hacked, terms, the mid term elections being hacked.
There's just all sorts of evidence that points to foreign
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powers infiltrating various election security networks. And uh, the U
S agency charged with ensuring that voting machines meet security
standards was itself penetrated by a hacker after the November elections.
Um so they've been testing the fences and getting through
the fences easily and all of these signs exactly. The
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raptors are testing the fences. The Russians in this case
are testing the fences. And the really scary thing is
that a lot of states in America don't have paper
ballots that back up their electronic ballots, so that leaves
us very open to I think what we call fucory,
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in which the vote count could possibly be manipulated. And
there's been all kinds of weird stuff that has not
been really brought up in the news that is like
kind of fucking like next level sort. I don't know
if it's the next level, because I don't know anything.
But for example, like they found these cell site stimulators
are called sting rayser I m s I catchers, and
you know, it's not surprising. They then certain articles they
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say that they would that foreign intelligence groups or criminal
groups would use this kind of uh hardware in the capital.
But for the first time, the DHS sort of acknowledged
that this stuff could possibly uh intercept sensitive political communications. Uh.
There are computers. There are a pair of Princeton computer
scientists have also pointed out that these cell phone simulators
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they can like which they mimic legitimate cell towers, can
also be used for like inexpensive vote hacking. So basically
the sting ray would intercept the vote totals from the
voting machine before they're uploaded to the actual canvassing computer
or mainframe thing. So and again they're just sort of like, oh,
how these weird cell simulators show up in d C.
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There's just there are many other sort of frightening things
along with the idea that yeah, we don't have paper
records in certain states, like important states like Pennsylvania. Is
this not the number one priority of anyone who has
anything to do with running elections in this country? I mean,
this is this angers me so much that that whether
people are so cynical or lazy or a manipulative that
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they saw what happened in sixteen and it wasn't their
number one priority to look at how can we prevent
this from happening again? Whatever your party is, just if
you if you like America, if you like democracy, how
can you not want to make sure that the integrity
of the elections. But if you're hyperpartisan, you might be like, well,
this might be the only way to fight off a
democratic wavell you know, because clearly intelligence community said that
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Russia clearly favorite Trump over Hillary Clinton, and using that
information we assume that possibly that's I don't think that
people are going to hack in the name of progressive
ideals for the left, but yeah, you know, I think
even in Europe, because they were really worried about certain
elections in the last year getting manipulated by foreign actors
or whatever, that some places just did all paper. They're like,
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we don't even want to mess with computers because at
least we know, like we're looking at human beings using
a paper ballot, and we have that we're counting that, right,
So that's pretty scary stuff. And the DHS, the Department
of Homeland Security yesterday had a presentation for Congress to
which forty members of Congress showed up on the higher end,
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so that's like roughly ten percent of Congress bothered to
turn up. So I don't know if it's cynicism. I
don't know if it's people on both sides being like, well,
Trump is clearly never going to do anything about this
because it's not in his interest to plug these holes. Essentially, well,
then we've done functionally nothing about it, right. I guess
Pennsylvania is still working with electronic ballots that they got
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in that they put into a rotation in two thousand two, um,
and they are they just got funding to replace them
with new machines that will be updated in two thousand nineteen,
just in time, just in time for and then I
think had a few different like hacker conventions in like Vegas.
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They were easily just penetrating like these voting machines and
like and hacked, and now I can do whatever I
want in here. So yeah, I mean, I don't know
what what it is if there, you know, I'm it
surprised me that only fifty commerce people have showed up.
I don't know if that speaks to that they felt
the briefing was skewed or whatever. But when you read
the headline that they gave a briefing on sort of
(31:30):
election security and the numbers are low, Yeah, this should
be the most important, I mean, aside from just you know,
not getting physically attacked by somebody. But it's like, what's
more important? That's what we fought for, Yeah, exactly, this
is our actual democracy. This is how we know the
will of the people. Was it that hearing though, where
someone from the DHS said that they weren't aware of
any evidence that the Russians had hacked the election, even
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though it was a publicly available report. Kirsten Nielsen, who
is the head of DHS, said something to that effect
of more like she didn't she hadn't heard of the
intelligence community's assessment that Russia favorite Trump. Maybe that was it, Yeah, yeah,
which was weird of just sort of like, oh, really,
I don't know. It's like what he's saying, like, how
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are you on one hand being like our elections are
vulnerable from who oh I don't know, but look anyway,
it says everything that they believe that if they were,
if they were a fair election, that they wouldn't win. Well, yeah,
that that's why the you know, the redistricting and all
those efforts are massively frightening to the GOP because they
spent so long completely gerrymandering the districts and suppressing votes
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that if they're like, wait, we're not gonna win a
fair one, you know, So we'll see, we'll see what happens.
I'm sure, as you'd hope, this story will pick up
some steam and they'll be some kind of more public
pressure for them to do. Is there time? Is there
time to fix this stuff. I'd imagine certainly to harden
the targets, or at the very least, like you know,
(32:55):
you just go all analog and you're like, yo, every
everywhere's paper ballot. But I don't see how you don't
do that, because otherwise, the the idea that you would
have elections and they could be compromised and we wouldn't
know it. We just wouldn't have the paper back up
to see if people's votes have been changed. That's fucking insane.
(33:15):
There's no way around that. You need to not do
that if that's your plan. Yeah, I don't know the
whole idea of like jerrymandering and now this, I I
just wonder if I know that I personally was less motivated.
I feel like in the past, the gop UH and
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the right has been way more motivated to find these
cracks that they can exploit in the system. And I
feel like a lot of people who opposed far right
wing politics were just made aware and just like sort
of activated. So that would be the possibly hopeful spin
(33:56):
to put on it is that all this fuckory is
going to be harder for them to pull off now
that people have seen how bad it can get if
if you're not actively engaged and you know, getting out
and voting and you know, monitoring and making sure that
the electoral system is protected. So we shall see. A
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brief news flash is that a sinkhole is opening up
in the White House lawn. It's growing every day. So yeah,
someone who's not very subtle is writing the news now apparently,
whether it be the Veep writing staff or just or
it's a biblical thing, you know, like Hell could be
opening up to swallow it. Yeah, the Old Testament is
(34:38):
definitely not very subtle. Yeah, yeah, but I love the Pentateuch.
You've always been a fan, so uh, let's get into
the Michael Cohen letter that would get into the Onion.
Back in two thousand thirty published this story that was, Okay,
if first of all, I've really in this show, you
(35:00):
don't know what what, then the Onion is shame on you.
The Onion is a satirical website. Is one of the
great satirical news websites publications out there. Uh and in
they ran an op ed which is fake. Let me
say that again, a fake satirical ha ha lo lo
loll jokey op ed written by Donald Trump supposedly, but
(35:22):
it's satirical, so we know it wasn't actually written by him,
called when You're Feeling Low Just Remember, I'll be dead
and about fifteen or twenty years, And it was just
a very you know, stupid, just sort of piece about
Donald Trump, you know, dying because he sucks. That's right,
and they're not very distant future. I will die and
then be gone from the world for all eternity. You
may even get to watch me in a casket on
national television being lowered into the ground, never to be
(35:44):
seen again. I bet you're smiling just thinking about that. Yeah.
And then so because you know Michael Cohen, he's like
number one attack dog for Trump or who knows how
this letter came about A letter, very angry takedown letter
was written by Michael Cohen in all seriousness to the onion,
and it goes like this, Dear Mr Hannah, I wish
to call your attention to an article currently on your homepage,
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allegedly penned by Donald Trump entitled when You're Feeling Glow,
Just Remember I'll be dead about ten or fifteen years.
Let me begin by stating the obvious that the commentary
was not written by Mr Trump. Secondly, the article is
an absolutely disgusting piece that lacks any place in journalism,
even in your onion. I am here by demanding that
(36:26):
you immediately remove this disgraceful piece from your website an
issue an apology to Mr Trump. I further asked that
you contact immediately to discuss this commentary goes way beyond defamation,
and if not immediately removed, I will take all actions
necessary to ensure your actions do not go without consequence.
Guide yourself accordingly yours, Michael Collins, Oh yours? Yeah, warmly,
(36:48):
crely Coco. So yeah, I mean, he clearly didn't know
what the fun the Onion was. And it turns out
when you ask people, so our writer Jam mcnaw was
ind of looking into this thing, and there have been
articles written about this moment at the Onion and what happened,
and like one of the people who used to work
there speculates that it was probably Trump himself that wrote
(37:12):
this letter and just had Michael Cohen sent it off.
They point to just sort of like the words like
this article is disgraceful and disgusting and essentially amounts to
I demand an apology. I hereby demand yeah, exactly, um,
and it just sort of like that sort of like
that just is the total Trump brand in terms of,
you know, his writing style and like the wording they
(37:32):
say is wonky is nowhere even close to being like
legal ease. I mean granted, granted went to like literally
garbage law school, so of course we can't expect him
to use like real, you know, like nuanced vocabulary. But yeah,
Trump is the one who sits around googling Donald Trump
all day every day, not Michael Cohen, or maybe it
is Michael Cohen, but if so, that's very sad um.
(37:56):
But the crazy part is when the Onion put out
this piece Michael home and then gets on Twitter to
be like, see, I knew that was you guys. It's
clearly a satirical website, so therefore my response was also satire. Therefore,
by the laws of comedy, I am the new lord
of ha has. I don't know, I mean, like, was
(38:18):
he just read his tweet? Maybe all of you hashtag
haters hashtag trolls missed the memo, But at the Onion
is a news satire organization that means dot dot dot,
it's not real, but not I think he's because they
just came out with an article today, I think, but
he was responding to where they lie. I thought the
(38:40):
story was that they hadn't responded to it, and they
just recently discovered that they So they said, they said
that this editorial saying all right, we'd like to take
you up in your offer to come and talk to
you whatever, Like, well, well, we'll take that down in
exchange for access to the president, like the quid pro
quo if you would, Yeah, yeah, that's great. So I
think he was saying that that was sad tire, or
or that that the letter itself it was. I don't
(39:02):
know either way, the fact that he would have to
come out he was like, oh, that's a joke that
I would do quid pro quo with the president who
is clicking on hashtag trolls like looking for let me
see what the trolls are trying to be the marketing
people who put out the failed animated version of the UM.
I just love the idea of him explaining to us
(39:25):
that the onion is satire. What a genius. He's just yeah, again, Trump,
you know, this is John. There's no humor. He has
no sense of humor. He is not he is incapable
of any's so thin skinned, and that's that's one of
the things that people. I think Comy wrote about it,
and I think there's other people who spend time around
him who remarked that the most notable thing about Donald
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Trump when you spend time around him is he never laughs,
never smiles, it's just all. And we spent a lot
of time looking for clips of him laughing, and I
think we found one. Yeah, that's sort of like an angry,
passive aggressive if they were also saying, like this other
piece that Donald Trump actually called the onion because there
(40:13):
was no response to that email, which would also lead
you to yea, and of course it was old Donnie. Sorry,
John Miller, you couldn't spend this one this time. And
I've talked about how when I was at ABC News,
we were creating a piece about how Donald Trump is
not as rich as he claims, and he himself called
the office maybe thirty times a day. He is don't
(40:35):
drag me, please, don't drag but yeah, except basically threatening
to sue until the ABC News legal department was like okay.
And also, if you look at Michael Cohen's writing style,
where we've seen him actually sending ship to other people.
He'll be like, what I will do to you will
be fucking disgusting, you know what I mean. Like, that's
how Michael Cohen comes at you. So there's the other thing.
(40:55):
When you look at his past works, you can tell
that he's this is not his usual writing style. All right, guys,
let's get into the stories of the day, and we
have to open up with some hard hitting ship because
there is a new Laurel v Yanni and a couple
actually that we want to play for you guys. So
(41:16):
first off, we are going to play some Rihanna for you.
So we're gonna play just a little segment of one
of her songs. That's not so that part right there,
I think I always assumed was because I'm a paper chase,
(41:38):
And people pointed out that if you now think about
the phrase because I'm a big fucking slut, you get
a different version. So think about that phrase as you
listen to it. That's not yeah, you can do that
one more time. That's not dame. Well, that's that's in
(42:03):
there too. I guess if you really want to listen
to because I'm a big so no, I want some
case so wait, can you play that back? Make let
me hear that one, because I'm a Finn for Cable.
(42:33):
So then there's also this piano thing that you were
playing for me this morning. Most Yeah, so someone on Twitter,
I think hit us up there, like, yo, check this
new one out. So on the same article from that website,
think is I love science underneath it? They had this
version of a Staining Alive by the Bgs, But it's
like they basically had this computer program interpret the song
(42:53):
through MIDI piano. So basically this version of Staying Alive
is only piano notes. But when you listen, you swear
you could like hear the actual vocals of the song.
It's a little trippy. Listen to this, Yeah, so I
(43:33):
know it sounds like the fucking Nightmare Health Gap. It does.
It sounds like the Begs are being drowned by piano music.
Their voices are like trying to sing, or it would
be like a trippy video where there's like an eight
bit c and they fell into it and we're drowning
in like a bit crushed world. And that's a very
deep technical dargon, but yes, but it's weird. You can
(43:57):
kind of hear the lyrics and there it was very
it's odd. Yeah, the only piano notes. So there's your
auditory illusion for the day. Because we said this show
is now all about auditory allusions. Yeah, these two remind
me of like conspiracy theories because they're like so obviously
there you can actually hear it, like you're finding stuff
hidden in the fabric of a thing that you've heard before.
(44:18):
But like once your mind starts to like put the
shape of things on it, it's like impossible not to hear. So,
like with the JFK conspiracy theory, if you talk to
a conspiracy theorist, they are like, look, man right there
and the grassy knoll, you can see it, and if
you if you look hard enough, you can kind of
see a guy there. But what about the lady with
(44:39):
the you can't see your face? Oh shit, see, don't
get Quincy Jones in here. There's so many theories on
the JFK thing, and I think it's because it is
the most analyzed like twelve seconds of film and just
of reality in the history of the world. So you're
gonna just in the same way that like if you
(45:02):
listen to a song enough, you're going to be able
to hear new things in it. If you look at
this scenario enough times, you're gonna be able to come
up with different versions that are equally there that your mind. Like,
we'll tell you for certain like that is happening right there.
But you know it's actually our minds looking to put
(45:24):
patterns and meaning in things that weren't actually intended or
weren't actually there. And don't we do that anyways? You
know in our daily lives and daily waking lives. What
do they mean by that? Exactly? What did they not
mean by that? So why would you open up this
JFK box of worms and not allow us to talk
about it? Okay, dude, uncool? Yeah, I just like to
(45:45):
put it out there. And then you know, the mob.
I think it was a MOB and the CIA together together.
I think JFK was going to some more progressive ideas
and CIA or it had other plants. Hey, we don't
I mean, look, we don't have to. Don't ask me
about it. But it could have been John Connor. I
don't know. But at the same time, as Scarface once said,
(46:06):
my mind's playing tricks on me. Okay, thank you, all right,
I guess we're gonna move on. All right, we're gonna
take a quick break. We'll be right back. I'm not
happy and we're back jackies. What is something that is underrated?
(46:29):
Let me hit you out with this, h miles. We
may know something about this the days, the days. Oh yeah, yeah,
clean your butt with water, boy. Let me tell you.
If you still just using tissue, get in the game.
You ain't in the game. And at first four years
I was like, oh, using tissues, I use baby wipes. Na.
(46:52):
If you're still using baby wipes, yo, ask ain't clean man.
So did you just get one of those seat attachments? Yeah?
Forty dollars on apmos? Sigh. Wow is it easy too?
It was like ten minutes to hook it up. And
uh and you and full disclosure, you do work for
this company? Quick, I work for this company. So let
me plug you know you're plugging real quick? No. Yeah,
(47:14):
it has changed my pooping life. Do you have the
squatty potty too? That would be the most Then you
would have the most lit fecal set up every bowel
movement zone. It's the best thing, dude. Yeah. And my
mine has the thing where you can adjust to pressure,
so like if it gets too high, then like you
started getting water like up your grass and like that
(47:35):
doesn't feel great. But you don't need a calonic. You
don't need yeah yeah, yeah, but unless you do yeah
unless Hey, but if you having pressure watched the driveway
in a little bit, you know what, bring it back
to life. Maybe you to turn up the pressure. I
know in Japan, yes, so like the big Japan, most
of the seats, like most people when they go to Japan,
like the toilet seats are like warm, and then like
(47:57):
a thing will like there's like an invisible to day. Yes,
we've been on that ship for a while. But the
biggest thing is, you know, sometimes wiping does not suffice
and you just need to just the cleansing power of
a water stream is just great, great for you. Let
me let me even expand on that just in general,
Like if you roll around in dirt and like mud
(48:19):
and then just get a dry paper towel and wipe
yourself off, you're still dirty. You can still see the
dub the mud smears, So at least use a baby
white out. At least use a baby white And if
you want to get to that next level, get yourself
up a day. Yeah, man, we're just making just making
changes over here. Ya got the day's anybody? And I've
(48:40):
had one for airbnbad a house once that had one
and you never left. Yeah, I definitely need to Was
it not know that was a edition? Was it European stylar?
It was one with like the fancy toilet seat. Fancy
toilet seat. You can get a more expensive like you
can get one like three hundred bucks as like heated
(49:01):
toilet seeds and heated water and yeah, the most lit
ones are made by Toto the total Washlet shout out
to Japanese ingenuity, although who knows who invented it first,
but yeah, shout out to the bidet and shout out
shout out. Hit us up with your bidday stories. Yeah,
the first time you use a bi day, how did
it take a picture? Take a photo of yourself the
(49:22):
moment the budat hits you? So you didn't capture that
moment my first biddaye or like? Also you ever pay
attention to the face you make me wipe your ass? No,
think about that next time you wipe your ass. If so,
if you make a face while you do it, like
if it's like cocked eyebrow a purse lip. You know,
(49:42):
I probably do, like just be aware of the face
you make when you're weipping you, but probably carl my lip,
Probably Carl it Mine's just a lot of like downtrodden
self reflection, like they're like, I'm wiping again, it's never ending,
or it's like the it's like like dential crazy or
a puppy dog guilt. Every time they like poop, they
(50:03):
just look guilty. Right, all right, that's gonna do it
for this week's weekly Zeite. Guys, please like and review
the show. If you like the show, uh means the
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you're having a great weekend and I will talk to
(50:26):
him Monday. By
Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of The
Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from
this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment last stravaganza.
Uh yeah, So, without further ado, here is the Weekly Zeitgeist.
(00:24):
Really all right, let's get into what people are thinking
and talking about right now around the world. In America
more specifically, at the end of last week, there was
another shooting in Santa Fe High School in Texas, and yeah,
we're just another round of the debate that is getting
(00:44):
pretty Yeah, it's just crazy. Like as I was just
kind of writing about this up for us to talk
about how like I was kind of taking a flip
in angle or just I think it just speaks to
sort of the exhaustion that we have that we're still
just in this fucking cycle of shooting and then dumb
maass finger pointing of anything but the fucking guns, anything
(01:05):
but that last time it was I don't even know
what it was the new talking point, it seemed like
on on the Sunday shows because the n r A
had to get all their people out to start spending
this recent shooting to be anything but the guns. Uh,
seemed to be mostly video games and movies. Now was
like the I guess Scapegoat Jour and Riddling? Yeah, so
(01:26):
I guess the first. Yeah, Ali North, who is the
new n A president and o G gun smuggler of America.
He went on Fox and Yeah blamed Riddling in a
bunch of us. Check out this explanation. We're trying, like
the Dickens, to treat the symptom without treating the disease.
And the disease in this case isn't the Second Amendment.
The disease is youngsters who are steeped in a in
(01:49):
a culture of violence. Uh, they've been drugged in many cases.
Nearly all of these perpetrators are male and their young
teenagers in most cases, and they've come through a culture
where violence is commonplace. All we need to do is
tart on the TV, go to a movie. If you
look at what has happened to the young people, many
(02:11):
of these young boys have been on Riddle instance, they
were in kindergarten. Uh, that's such a hard left on.
Like it's like he even started like making a good
point of like all these young shooters are male, all
these young right that there could be a discussion about
what toxic masculinity is and things like that, right, but
then it turns into a riddlin. It's just well, later
(02:32):
on he goes, well, look, I'm not a doctor, I'm
a marine, so blah blah blah, and it's almost like, well, then,
don't fucking begin to speculate as to what really one
has to do with any of this. Uh so, anything
but the guns. And then it seemed like this was
kind of a theme because then the lieutenant Governor of Texas, who,
by the way, when he was aeutenant governor was like
in a real battle to fight again to gender neutral
(02:54):
bathrooms side note went on to blame I think now
it's abortions in video games. So north was writtening in
video games, and then this is the lieutenant governor of Texas.
We have devalued life, whether it's through abortion, whether it's
the breakup of families through violent movies and particularly violent
video games, which now out sell movies and and music. Uh.
(03:17):
Psychologists and psychiatrists will tell you that students are desensitized
to violence. Um may have lost empathy for their victims
by watching hours and hours of video violent games. George
of teenagers, according to psychiatrists and psychologists watch video games
and eighty five or some of those are violent games.
(03:40):
And then, of course, George, we have our schools that
are not hard targets. Okay, is he the guy who
then went on to blame the number of doors in
the school. Yeah, he was like, there're too many points
of entry to just be like a prison. Yeah. The
doors thing really puts into perspective how far they will
go to blame literally everything other than guns, and they're
(04:03):
literally running out of new vantage points to like come
at this issue without tackling the actual issue, which is
why I feel like if we're getting into like the
b sides of shitty arguments with like rittling and then
recycling old points, it's just it's crazy. Yeah. And also
that theory that it's the media and video games, and
George Stephanopolis goes on to say, well that media is
(04:25):
available all around the world, these video games are available
all around the world, yet this still seems to be
a uniquely American problem. It isn't it an access to
guns thing? And he was like abortion, like whatever. So yes, again,
blame everything but the guns. And again, if you want
to come for people's video games, then you'll see some
people fucking go crazy. Man, don't come for the games. Okay,
(04:47):
I'm telling you right now. I love my games and
I'm not these are not. It's such a sort of
dated idea too, because this that video game media thing
has been studied so hard because people want it to
be video game so bad because people It's the same
way that when comic books came out, you know, there
was this governmental commission into comic books and how they
(05:09):
were like corrupting the youth. Well, now video games are
the new thing. They wanted so bad for video games
to be a cause of violence or caused people to
be desensitized to violence, and statistics and studies have shown
either that there's no correlation or that it's the exact opposite.
And basically, by keeping people who have violent urges in
(05:32):
their homes doing violence on video games, you actually cut
down on actual violence. So it's been like a national
initiative to like get that opinion to take for so
long time. I was the last time I was home,
I found an essay that I had written in the
fifth grade where it was like we were studying in
school why video games are bad for you, and like
(05:54):
here's what I like. I was like, really, we've been
doing this for like, oh, like your teachers were having
you write about that. Yeah. Like it was like, uh,
it must have been some unit that we were taught
because I found an essay I wrote when I was
ten about why like video games is bad. Yeah. Yeah,
we we wanted to talk about the upcoming meetings between
(06:15):
Donald Trump and North Korean Later, Kim Jong un, Miles,
you had some interesting updates from me eating about this,
and I'm it follows a pattern Donald Trump really likes,
which is spiking the football when you're on the fifty
yard line right like you scored the motherfucking touchdown and
not even in the red zone, my guy. Uh So,
(06:38):
look the past few weeks he has been pumping up
his old little pep talking about I'm the real peacemaker.
I should get a Nobel prize. Uh. You know, these
guys are about to fully d nuke because of me,
blah blah blah. And now we're starting to get reports
that Donald Trump is kind of starting to get cold
feet because he's worried that this thing could turn in
(07:00):
to an embarrassment. And there are a couple of things
to look at why this could possibly seem Again, we
talked about how dangerous it was for people with very
fragile egos to meet up and begin to make concessions.
So first of all, like you know, when Mike Pompey
had his secret meetings, it seemed like the news came
out of there was pretty good that North korew was
open to completely denuclearizing. And you know, again, Donald Trump
(07:23):
got that football out, started raising his arm, and then
John Bolton went hunt TV and started saying buzzwords like Libya,
which are on the no no list when it comes
to North Korea, because that is the exact scenario that
Kim Jong lun wants to avoid. And then the North
Korean chief negotiator was basically kind of making clear is like,
you know, the idea of total nuclearization probably not gonna happen.
(07:46):
So that worried Trump to the point that he called
President Moon of South Korean was like, but earlier he
said he was gonna do that. What's going on? No, no, no,
And so that started to add a little bit to
his nervousness because also, as we've said before that he
is so thirsty for like a real political win, like
one that even people on the left or like, you
(08:06):
know what, Okay, maybe you did, maybe you did pull
that off. And just in general, he needs something to
really hang his two pay on, and he doesn't really
have that. So now this is kind of getting a
little bit more nervous because of the just desperate need
for the optics of him being an effective leader. And
then when you add to that also that he knows
(08:27):
functionally fuck all about the North Korea nuclear program. It's
a little worrying too because there are a lot of
aids writing about how he just is like doesn't really
understand the complexities of the nuclear program and that how
that could hinder him when he's trying to actually negotiate
things because there's things like you know, uranium enrichment and
plutonium reprocessing and things like that that are vital parts
(08:49):
of like of making these kinds of deals. And you know, meanwhile,
he was like trying to take credit or just be like, oh,
you know, well, they're they're going to close this one
test site, you know, because of the pressure that was
like a site that had like literally collapsed under the
sheer like nuclear testing induced earthquakes that was going on.
So that really wasn't much of a win. So a
(09:10):
lot of these are kind of coming together to sort
of create a mood around the White House that Trump
is sort of worried that he's not going to be
able to do the thing where he flies in on
a golden Eagle to Singapore tells Kim Jong, you know,
hand over the keys to the nukes, and then he
flies back being like, okay, American number one piece achieved
level five liter uh achievement unlocked. So I don't know,
(09:30):
we'll see what happens. These Again, these aren't things that
he's like actually said, oh, we should cancel it, but
these are the grumblings and rumblings around the White House
that he's increasingly kind of begin he's starting to get
a little insecure about the meeting. Well, I think I
think from his point of view, the meeting will go.
You know, he'll get there and he'll be like, Okay,
I will show you my PP, you show me your PP.
(09:52):
Whoever has bigger PP wins the meeting, And maybe he's
learned getting some intel that someone has a bigger PP
than or just knows how to actually negotiate, because this
is like all part of his thing. My God, it's
like the same thing with just as an aside is
the trade war with China. Like he just announced that
he's gonna put the trade war quote on hold because
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like some not real concessions that Chinese made, they just
sort of like sort of suggested that they may increase
purchasing certain crops or whatever, and that was enough for
trying to be like, Okay, let's put the trade war
on hold. Meanwhile, the whole entire campaign, he was like, Oh,
China is screwing us. We are gonna really hit them,
We're going to punish them. And he has also just
(10:35):
like completely just sort of caved at the first sign
of pressure or whatever. I don't know, we'll see what happens,
but this seems like the trend of him being Leon
let in that fateful Super Bowl match where Don Beade
comes behind him and strips the football from him before
he can even get to the zone. Right, he's celebrating
at the one yard line, and I feel like it's
actually more like that kicker who jumped up to celebrate
(10:59):
a like earl least season field goal and tour his
m c L because because it's not it's he had
a small success very early in the process and celebrated
it and celebrated it so hard that he has now
sort of fucked himself in terms of confidence. Also just
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in terms of the leaking, because this is something that
just comes up over and over again when it comes
to the coverage of this White House. It's pretty remarkable
that the people preparing him for a historic summit with
North Korea are just talking open ship about him, being like,
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he doesn't know what the funk he's talking about, He's
scared about that, and he's incompetent. What the funk are
we gonna do? People who are siding with him seem
to think that this is because there's some deep state
conspiracy against him. Is that more likely or is it
more likely that he treats everyone around him like ship
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and everyone who is working with him sees up close
how incompetent he is and are scared for the future
of our country. That's exactly because the leaking is not
a single person who has some agenda. The leaking is
just everywhere. No matter where Trump is, someone's going to
be like, Uh, you're not gonna believe what the funk
this guy just said about exactly, Well, that just seems
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like long game thinking on everyone's part too, because it's
like you won't I mean, hopefully there's someone in the
White House who has uh the better interest of people,
although I'm not convinced that's true, but like you know,
like a couple of years on when the Trump thing
is ideally behind as they want to be able to
be like, well, I said something. Look remember when I
lead something I said, I'm not I'm not that bad.
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I'm complisite, but I'm not bad. I was that anonymous source. Yeah,
I was source from this New York Times article. There
were people are going to come back and claim that
they where the source, like when this Nightmar's well, that's
kind of like how those suspicious activity reports that Michael
Avinadi got his hands on with Michael Cohen, that was
someone at the Treasury Department, I think or SEC. I
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forget anyway, someone there who was monitoring that gave it
to him because he's like I felt that some of
the activity reports are being like suppressed and not coming out,
and they were like this is fucking bad and just
was like here and check this out. So I feel
like at many levels there are people who yeah, who
have been like lifelong servants of certain departments and are
just like this cannot stand. There was a article towards
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the end of last week. I think it was from
the Washington Post. I need to find that and we'll
put it in footnote. But the journalist went and asked
these people who are sources on the Trump White House,
why do you leak? And what is it like being
a leaker in this White House? And it was interesting.
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The reasons they leak are basically what you would expect
then for the few the country and you know. But
then the ways they leak are really interesting too, because
they will study quotes by people who they work with
and use vocal ticks of the people they work with
to cover their tracks to make it seem like they're
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not the leaker and that the other person might be
the leaker. So they'll look at quotes from somebody and
then use that voice, that voice essentially to give direct
quotes to the White House. Well wild Adam Sandlery approach
to leaking information. I don't think they do an exact
like you know, I am it's met. One of the
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podcasts I was listening to, I think it was The
Ringer Weekly podcast with David Shoemaker where they do a
media deep dive. I think they were speculating this could
be somebody who realized they betrayed themselves with a leaking quote,
and then we're like, yeah, I cover my basis by
pretending to be that other guy. Yeah. So I don't know,
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but it's an interesting time to Leak culture is fascinating.
Weird hacker culture is fascinating. I think that you know,
we should just if if you're leaking, you're hacking, just
visually identify yourself by getting frosty tips and wearing tiny,
tiny little sunglasses and only way easier for us to
break these stories. But the other amazing thing is that
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all almost a lot of these people who are leaking
have to have been put there by the president himself.
And this is something that we're also seeing, and I
want to move on briefly to the Mueller investigation. We
keep seeing the conservative base sort of assuming that people
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who Trump has appointed, who were high aired by him,
given the job by him, are in a vast conspiracy
to take him down for reasons that nobody is clear on.
I think I've now heard that Mueller is out to
get him. Because Mueller is friends with Komey and he
wants to get back at him for that. But it's
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not clear why Rosenstein is out to get him because
Trump hired him and pointed him. And you're saying the
sort of conservative people are spinning that like these appointees
are Actually I thought you were saying that there is
this concerted effort. No, I'm just saying, yeah, the conservative
take on this. In order to explain away all of
these sourced leaks that are pointing to just vast incompetence
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and corruption, they're having to formulate this quote deep state
cover up, that is this vast conspiracy that is all
out to get him and coordinating to create this narrative.
But Trump would have had to hire all these various
conspirators on his own and put them in place for
that to be true. Well yeah, or they just have
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the complete disregard for the fact that, yes, many of
these people are in positions that were appointees or whatever
or lifelong Republicans. So I guess it's at this point,
you know, because the stories get worse and worse, or
just the smoke is getting more intense, and the coincidences,
if you want to call them, coincidences become more and
more frequent, it's harder to imagine a version of events
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that you know is completely benign. This weekend there were
revelations that I assumed, we're going to take the entire country,
both the fort that approves of Trump and that disapproves
of Trump, in the direction of, well, let's see this
Mueller thing out, let's see this Puller investigation now. But
instead it seems to be a case where things are
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continuing to every piece of evidence causes both sides to
accelerate in the opposite direction. Right. We've talked before about
how this is one of the key ingredients for civil war,
is when you have two separate sides of the country
and everything that each side here's takes them further and
further apart. And so this morning there was a huge
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op ed that is the number one trending article on
the Hill, that is a former Democratic Party operative named
Mark Penn who is saying it's time to end the
Muller investigation. He basically lays out the argument that I've heard,
the conservative argument is fairly consistent against the Mueller investigation,
that it's this deep state thing and that there was
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never evidence in the first place, and never evidence that
anybody can point to in concrete terms. And the latest,
you know, revelations of meetings at Trump Tower where Donald
Trump Jr. Opened the meeting with a Russian Kremlin operative
by saying, I hear you have information for us. Uh.
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That doesn't it doesn't play into doesn't add any fuel
to the suspicion that something might be going on here.
And now there's evidence of more conversations that happened at
Trump Tower. Uh. This this new meeting was between the
guy who headed up Blackwater and Prince Betsy Devas's brother
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Eric Prince the just shadiest dude in the world, and
an operative from the UAE and Saudi Arabia. This guy
George Nader and a social media expert for a firm
which employed several Israeli former intelligence officers who specialized in
collecting information and shaping opinion through social media, which is
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a fancy way of describing social media manipulation campaign. Yes,
and I literally can't keep all these people we need
like a guess who board it's really people. I can't
keep it straight. There's not enough red string, right, and
it's crazy because there's just this a abundance of information
that is like, well, that's clearly the behavior of a
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guilty person. But anyways, so it is technically illegal for
a campaign for a public office in America to work
with foreign foreign money. And these conversations have people saying,
you know, the social media expert being like, we will
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here's our multimillion dollar proposal to help your father become
president and just because then he will allow us to
continue the factory. Uh yeah, because I'm sure it's a
very clear choice. If you're like, do you want a
world where Hillary Clinton is the president and is going
to try and enforce things or some guy who's sleazy
and can literally you can just pull up to Trump
(20:49):
Town and be like, hey, how much you need man,
because let's work something out. I do need the people
who are you know, thet who are critical of Trump
to just be a little bit more focused, because I
feel like you're hearing all of the information, just all
these different stories. And for instance, there was a story
a couple of weeks ago where a judge came after
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Mueller about Manafort and how how do you justify going
after man Afford It has nothing to do with the case,
And that was the last I heard of that story.
But apparently they explained their case to the judge and
the judge was like, oh, okay, I get it, and
they moved on from that. But that was a key
piece of evidence, I think because the forty two percent
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that approve of Trump have fewer pieces of evidence and
so they like cling to them and use them more carefully,
whereas the people who actually think there might be something
here in the Muller investigation are just they're just burning
through every new revelation like it's junk food. They are.
They are doing the Homeland thing. They got their wall
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set up with all the red string, right, and yeah
and on. I think on the other side, for conservatives,
if there aren't like real indictments or things like that,
they're not really paying attention to those kinds of developments
because that's again just part of the noise of this
witch hunt that they don't care about because nothing happened.
It's you're at the Mueller cook out and you're serving
up nothing burgers. And like then then making too much
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noise around any single story always works because yeah, like
are critical of Trump just get exhausted, Like if you
scream in someone's ear, about some stuff that's relevant and
some stuff that isn't. For long enough, it's like you
just get you know, like people, Yeah, you get exhausted.
And I don't know. And if you're like me, lose
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track of who's who because there's a new name every
two seconds and there are people entering the story and
people we can't accept you to keep up. I mean,
you're you're a woman on the go. You have to
do quick. You know, shallow grave barriers. I got to
take a shallow grave on my way home. The revolving
door of characters you have to keep track of is
so complex, and I understand why people get exhausted, but
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it's also like, yeah, that's what they want, and I
think I have too, especially like as we talk about
it more and more and I sort of slowly have
just adopted the mentality to kind of like, look, yes,
let's investigate this. I can't put all all of this
faith in this that this is going to correct everything,
because I don't think it will. And also I don't
I don't know if how much political will there is
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in d C to actually do anything to bring this
president in at least not until the mid terms. Yeah,
I think It's partially that because there is less evidence
on the side of the fort, they just have a
single argument that they're relying. Therefore, it becomes more coherent
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and it has the appearance of their argument being more disciplined,
whereas the left's case is sort of constantly evolving because
there's all this evidence and new stories piling in. I
also think it has to do with the fact that
we've brought up before on the show. The left doesn't
have a single opinion based outlet, that is, they're clear
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and obvious, you know, mouthpiece the way that the right
does it. In Fox News. You know, the left is
still led by journalistic institutions, and journalistic institutions just have
the mission statement of reporting facts, not coming up with
a coherent argument one way or another. And I think
that also keeps things somewhat scattered because I think also,
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I mean, even with MSNBC obviously being the most left leaning,
you'll get versions of it, but they don't quite venture
into the world of fantasy like Fox does. Uh. You know,
it's it's very raw, raw Democrats on MSNBC that and
sometimes you know, people like Laurence O'Donnell completely overlooked things
which whatever, But I think, yeah, I know what you mean.
There's nothing, there's nothing that's quite as aggressive as the
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sort of media machine on the right. It's a yeah,
it's and it's a lose lose because they're like oversimplifying
stuff to the point of like fantasy and forest and craziness.
And it's like, you don't want that for the left.
But what is a way to present, uh, you know,
everything you need to know and and filter out the
noise Like it's so it's so hard to do. I
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think the only way to do it is for everybody
to listen to the daily thank you, that's what we're
here for for just really unchecked. But even on the
side of dates, yeah, even on the side of MSNBC,
MSNBC is just another voice in this coophony of different
sources that people on the left to pay attention to.
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Whereas the right, it's like the whole Republican Party has
a very disciplined information architecture that is coming down from
Fox News. And you know, Fox News's loudest voice speaks
to the president every night to like decompress. And Fox
News was started by Roger Ales, who was a Republican
political operative for Nixon and was like, there's room for
(25:56):
me to create a political machine and you know, make
it a key player in politics. Well, and he's sure.
Our podcast is still bigger than the Fox News podcast.
So you know we're on our way. Yeah, we're gonna
nail this. Uh yeah, Russell Limboff doesn't have ship on us.
What are you saying? All Right, we're gonna He's been
(26:18):
the whole time I'm here, this handfuls of Okay, I
only I only ride the yellow submarine. Alright, we're gonna
take a quick break and we'll be right back, and
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we're back. We wanted to talk about something that sixty
minutes has covered a lot of different you know, respected
journalistic outlets have covered the possibility that the upcoming election
will be hacked, terms, the mid term elections being hacked.
There's just all sorts of evidence that points to foreign
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powers infiltrating various election security networks. And uh, the U
S agency charged with ensuring that voting machines meet security
standards was itself penetrated by a hacker after the November elections.
Um so they've been testing the fences and getting through
the fences easily and all of these signs exactly. The
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raptors are testing the fences. The Russians in this case
are testing the fences. And the really scary thing is
that a lot of states in America don't have paper
ballots that back up their electronic ballots, so that leaves
us very open to I think what we call fucory,
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in which the vote count could possibly be manipulated. And
there's been all kinds of weird stuff that has not
been really brought up in the news that is like
kind of fucking like next level sort. I don't know
if it's the next level, because I don't know anything.
But for example, like they found these cell site stimulators
are called sting rayser I m s I catchers, and
you know, it's not surprising. They then certain articles they
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say that they would that foreign intelligence groups or criminal
groups would use this kind of uh hardware in the capital.
But for the first time, the DHS sort of acknowledged
that this stuff could possibly uh intercept sensitive political communications. Uh.
There are computers. There are a pair of Princeton computer
scientists have also pointed out that these cell phone simulators
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they can like which they mimic legitimate cell towers, can
also be used for like inexpensive vote hacking. So basically
the sting ray would intercept the vote totals from the
voting machine before they're uploaded to the actual canvassing computer
or mainframe thing. So and again they're just sort of like, oh,
how these weird cell simulators show up in d C.
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There's just there are many other sort of frightening things
along with the idea that yeah, we don't have paper
records in certain states, like important states like Pennsylvania. Is
this not the number one priority of anyone who has
anything to do with running elections in this country? I mean,
this is this angers me so much that that whether
people are so cynical or lazy or a manipulative that
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they saw what happened in sixteen and it wasn't their
number one priority to look at how can we prevent
this from happening again? Whatever your party is, just if
you if you like America, if you like democracy, how
can you not want to make sure that the integrity
of the elections. But if you're hyperpartisan, you might be like, well,
this might be the only way to fight off a
democratic wavell you know, because clearly intelligence community said that
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Russia clearly favorite Trump over Hillary Clinton, and using that
information we assume that possibly that's I don't think that
people are going to hack in the name of progressive
ideals for the left, but yeah, you know, I think
even in Europe, because they were really worried about certain
elections in the last year getting manipulated by foreign actors
or whatever, that some places just did all paper. They're like,
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we don't even want to mess with computers because at
least we know, like we're looking at human beings using
a paper ballot, and we have that we're counting that, right,
So that's pretty scary stuff. And the DHS, the Department
of Homeland Security yesterday had a presentation for Congress to
which forty members of Congress showed up on the higher end,
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so that's like roughly ten percent of Congress bothered to
turn up. So I don't know if it's cynicism. I
don't know if it's people on both sides being like, well,
Trump is clearly never going to do anything about this
because it's not in his interest to plug these holes. Essentially, well,
then we've done functionally nothing about it, right. I guess
Pennsylvania is still working with electronic ballots that they got
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in that they put into a rotation in two thousand two, um,
and they are they just got funding to replace them
with new machines that will be updated in two thousand nineteen,
just in time, just in time for and then I
think had a few different like hacker conventions in like Vegas.
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They were easily just penetrating like these voting machines and
like and hacked, and now I can do whatever I
want in here. So yeah, I mean, I don't know
what what it is if there, you know, I'm it
surprised me that only fifty commerce people have showed up.
I don't know if that speaks to that they felt
the briefing was skewed or whatever. But when you read
the headline that they gave a briefing on sort of
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election security and the numbers are low, Yeah, this should
be the most important, I mean, aside from just you know,
not getting physically attacked by somebody. But it's like, what's
more important? That's what we fought for, Yeah, exactly, this
is our actual democracy. This is how we know the
will of the people. Was it that hearing though, where
someone from the DHS said that they weren't aware of
any evidence that the Russians had hacked the election, even
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though it was a publicly available report. Kirsten Nielsen, who
is the head of DHS, said something to that effect
of more like she didn't she hadn't heard of the
intelligence community's assessment that Russia favorite Trump. Maybe that was it, Yeah, yeah,
which was weird of just sort of like, oh, really,
I don't know. It's like what he's saying, like, how
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are you on one hand being like our elections are
vulnerable from who oh I don't know, but look anyway,
it says everything that they believe that if they were,
if they were a fair election, that they wouldn't win. Well, yeah,
that that's why the you know, the redistricting and all
those efforts are massively frightening to the GOP because they
spent so long completely gerrymandering the districts and suppressing votes
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that if they're like, wait, we're not gonna win a
fair one, you know, So we'll see, we'll see what happens.
I'm sure, as you'd hope, this story will pick up
some steam and they'll be some kind of more public
pressure for them to do. Is there time? Is there
time to fix this stuff. I'd imagine certainly to harden
the targets, or at the very least, like you know,
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you just go all analog and you're like, yo, every
everywhere's paper ballot. But I don't see how you don't
do that, because otherwise, the the idea that you would
have elections and they could be compromised and we wouldn't
know it. We just wouldn't have the paper back up
to see if people's votes have been changed. That's fucking insane.
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There's no way around that. You need to not do
that if that's your plan. Yeah, I don't know the
whole idea of like jerrymandering and now this, I I
just wonder if I know that I personally was less motivated.
I feel like in the past, the gop UH and
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the right has been way more motivated to find these
cracks that they can exploit in the system. And I
feel like a lot of people who opposed far right
wing politics were just made aware and just like sort
of activated. So that would be the possibly hopeful spin
(33:56):
to put on it is that all this fuckory is
going to be harder for them to pull off now
that people have seen how bad it can get if
if you're not actively engaged and you know, getting out
and voting and you know, monitoring and making sure that
the electoral system is protected. So we shall see. A
(34:18):
brief news flash is that a sinkhole is opening up
in the White House lawn. It's growing every day. So yeah,
someone who's not very subtle is writing the news now apparently,
whether it be the Veep writing staff or just or
it's a biblical thing, you know, like Hell could be
opening up to swallow it. Yeah, the Old Testament is
(34:38):
definitely not very subtle. Yeah, yeah, but I love the Pentateuch.
You've always been a fan, so uh, let's get into
the Michael Cohen letter that would get into the Onion.
Back in two thousand thirty published this story that was, Okay,
if first of all, I've really in this show, you
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don't know what what, then the Onion is shame on you.
The Onion is a satirical website. Is one of the
great satirical news websites publications out there. Uh and in
they ran an op ed which is fake. Let me
say that again, a fake satirical ha ha lo lo
loll jokey op ed written by Donald Trump supposedly, but
(35:22):
it's satirical, so we know it wasn't actually written by him,
called when You're Feeling Low Just Remember, I'll be dead
and about fifteen or twenty years, And it was just
a very you know, stupid, just sort of piece about
Donald Trump, you know, dying because he sucks. That's right,
and they're not very distant future. I will die and
then be gone from the world for all eternity. You
may even get to watch me in a casket on
national television being lowered into the ground, never to be
(35:44):
seen again. I bet you're smiling just thinking about that. Yeah.
And then so because you know Michael Cohen, he's like
number one attack dog for Trump or who knows how
this letter came about A letter, very angry takedown letter
was written by Michael Cohen in all seriousness to the onion,
and it goes like this, Dear Mr Hannah, I wish
to call your attention to an article currently on your homepage,
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allegedly penned by Donald Trump entitled when You're Feeling Glow,
Just Remember I'll be dead about ten or fifteen years.
Let me begin by stating the obvious that the commentary
was not written by Mr Trump. Secondly, the article is
an absolutely disgusting piece that lacks any place in journalism,
even in your onion. I am here by demanding that
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you immediately remove this disgraceful piece from your website an
issue an apology to Mr Trump. I further asked that
you contact immediately to discuss this commentary goes way beyond defamation,
and if not immediately removed, I will take all actions
necessary to ensure your actions do not go without consequence.
Guide yourself accordingly yours, Michael Collins, Oh yours? Yeah, warmly,
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crely Coco. So yeah, I mean, he clearly didn't know
what the fun the Onion was. And it turns out
when you ask people, so our writer Jam mcnaw was
ind of looking into this thing, and there have been
articles written about this moment at the Onion and what happened,
and like one of the people who used to work
there speculates that it was probably Trump himself that wrote
(37:12):
this letter and just had Michael Cohen sent it off.
They point to just sort of like the words like
this article is disgraceful and disgusting and essentially amounts to
I demand an apology. I hereby demand yeah, exactly, um,
and it just sort of like that sort of like
that just is the total Trump brand in terms of,
you know, his writing style and like the wording they
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say is wonky is nowhere even close to being like
legal ease. I mean granted, granted went to like literally
garbage law school, so of course we can't expect him
to use like real, you know, like nuanced vocabulary. But yeah,
Trump is the one who sits around googling Donald Trump
all day every day, not Michael Cohen, or maybe it
is Michael Cohen, but if so, that's very sad um.
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But the crazy part is when the Onion put out
this piece Michael home and then gets on Twitter to
be like, see, I knew that was you guys. It's
clearly a satirical website, so therefore my response was also satire. Therefore,
by the laws of comedy, I am the new lord
of ha has. I don't know, I mean, like, was
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he just read his tweet? Maybe all of you hashtag
haters hashtag trolls missed the memo, But at the Onion
is a news satire organization that means dot dot dot,
it's not real, but not I think he's because they
just came out with an article today, I think, but
he was responding to where they lie. I thought the
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story was that they hadn't responded to it, and they
just recently discovered that they So they said, they said
that this editorial saying all right, we'd like to take
you up in your offer to come and talk to
you whatever, Like, well, well, we'll take that down in
exchange for access to the president, like the quid pro
quo if you would, Yeah, yeah, that's great. So I
think he was saying that that was sad tire, or
or that that the letter itself it was. I don't
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know either way, the fact that he would have to
come out he was like, oh, that's a joke that
I would do quid pro quo with the president who
is clicking on hashtag trolls like looking for let me
see what the trolls are trying to be the marketing
people who put out the failed animated version of the UM.
I just love the idea of him explaining to us
(39:25):
that the onion is satire. What a genius. He's just yeah, again, Trump,
you know, this is John. There's no humor. He has
no sense of humor. He is not he is incapable
of any's so thin skinned, and that's that's one of
the things that people. I think Comy wrote about it,
and I think there's other people who spend time around
him who remarked that the most notable thing about Donald
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Trump when you spend time around him is he never laughs,
never smiles, it's just all. And we spent a lot
of time looking for clips of him laughing, and I
think we found one. Yeah, that's sort of like an angry,
passive aggressive if they were also saying, like this other
piece that Donald Trump actually called the onion because there
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was no response to that email, which would also lead
you to yea, and of course it was old Donnie. Sorry,
John Miller, you couldn't spend this one this time. And
I've talked about how when I was at ABC News,
we were creating a piece about how Donald Trump is
not as rich as he claims, and he himself called
the office maybe thirty times a day. He is don't
(40:35):
drag me, please, don't drag but yeah, except basically threatening
to sue until the ABC News legal department was like okay.
And also, if you look at Michael Cohen's writing style,
where we've seen him actually sending ship to other people.
He'll be like, what I will do to you will
be fucking disgusting, you know what I mean. Like, that's
how Michael Cohen comes at you. So there's the other thing.
(40:55):
When you look at his past works, you can tell
that he's this is not his usual writing style. All right, guys,
let's get into the stories of the day, and we
have to open up with some hard hitting ship because
there is a new Laurel v Yanni and a couple
actually that we want to play for you guys. So
(41:16):
first off, we are going to play some Rihanna for you.
So we're gonna play just a little segment of one
of her songs. That's not so that part right there,
I think I always assumed was because I'm a paper chase,
(41:38):
And people pointed out that if you now think about
the phrase because I'm a big fucking slut, you get
a different version. So think about that phrase as you
listen to it. That's not yeah, you can do that
one more time. That's not dame. Well, that's that's in
(42:03):
there too. I guess if you really want to listen
to because I'm a big so no, I want some
case so wait, can you play that back? Make let
me hear that one, because I'm a Finn for Cable.
(42:33):
So then there's also this piano thing that you were
playing for me this morning. Most Yeah, so someone on Twitter,
I think hit us up there, like, yo, check this
new one out. So on the same article from that website,
think is I love science underneath it? They had this
version of a Staining Alive by the Bgs, But it's
like they basically had this computer program interpret the song
(42:53):
through MIDI piano. So basically this version of Staying Alive
is only piano notes. But when you listen, you swear
you could like hear the actual vocals of the song.
It's a little trippy. Listen to this, Yeah, so I
(43:33):
know it sounds like the fucking Nightmare Health Gap. It does.
It sounds like the Begs are being drowned by piano music.
Their voices are like trying to sing, or it would
be like a trippy video where there's like an eight
bit c and they fell into it and we're drowning
in like a bit crushed world. And that's a very
deep technical dargon, but yes, but it's weird. You can
(43:57):
kind of hear the lyrics and there it was very
it's odd. Yeah, the only piano notes. So there's your
auditory illusion for the day. Because we said this show
is now all about auditory allusions. Yeah, these two remind
me of like conspiracy theories because they're like so obviously
there you can actually hear it, like you're finding stuff
hidden in the fabric of a thing that you've heard before.
(44:18):
But like once your mind starts to like put the
shape of things on it, it's like impossible not to hear. So,
like with the JFK conspiracy theory, if you talk to
a conspiracy theorist, they are like, look, man right there
and the grassy knoll, you can see it, and if
you if you look hard enough, you can kind of
see a guy there. But what about the lady with
(44:39):
the you can't see your face? Oh shit, see, don't
get Quincy Jones in here. There's so many theories on
the JFK thing, and I think it's because it is
the most analyzed like twelve seconds of film and just
of reality in the history of the world. So you're
gonna just in the same way that like if you
(45:02):
listen to a song enough, you're going to be able
to hear new things in it. If you look at
this scenario enough times, you're gonna be able to come
up with different versions that are equally there that your mind. Like,
we'll tell you for certain like that is happening right there.
But you know it's actually our minds looking to put
(45:24):
patterns and meaning in things that weren't actually intended or
weren't actually there. And don't we do that anyways? You
know in our daily lives and daily waking lives. What
do they mean by that? Exactly? What did they not
mean by that? So why would you open up this
JFK box of worms and not allow us to talk
about it? Okay, dude, uncool? Yeah, I just like to
(45:45):
put it out there. And then you know, the mob.
I think it was a MOB and the CIA together together.
I think JFK was going to some more progressive ideas
and CIA or it had other plants. Hey, we don't
I mean, look, we don't have to. Don't ask me
about it. But it could have been John Connor. I
don't know. But at the same time, as Scarface once said,
(46:06):
my mind's playing tricks on me. Okay, thank you, all right,
I guess we're gonna move on. All right, we're gonna
take a quick break. We'll be right back. I'm not
happy and we're back jackies. What is something that is underrated?
(46:29):
Let me hit you out with this, h miles. We
may know something about this the days, the days. Oh yeah, yeah,
clean your butt with water, boy. Let me tell you.
If you still just using tissue, get in the game.
You ain't in the game. And at first four years
I was like, oh, using tissues, I use baby wipes. Na.
(46:52):
If you're still using baby wipes, yo, ask ain't clean man.
So did you just get one of those seat attachments? Yeah?
Forty dollars on apmos? Sigh. Wow is it easy too?
It was like ten minutes to hook it up. And
uh and you and full disclosure, you do work for
this company? Quick, I work for this company. So let
me plug you know you're plugging real quick? No. Yeah,
(47:14):
it has changed my pooping life. Do you have the
squatty potty too? That would be the most Then you
would have the most lit fecal set up every bowel
movement zone. It's the best thing, dude. Yeah. And my
mine has the thing where you can adjust to pressure,
so like if it gets too high, then like you
started getting water like up your grass and like that
(47:35):
doesn't feel great. But you don't need a calonic. You
don't need yeah yeah, yeah, but unless you do yeah
unless Hey, but if you having pressure watched the driveway
in a little bit, you know what, bring it back
to life. Maybe you to turn up the pressure. I
know in Japan, yes, so like the big Japan, most
of the seats, like most people when they go to Japan,
like the toilet seats are like warm, and then like
(47:57):
a thing will like there's like an invisible to day. Yes,
we've been on that ship for a while. But the
biggest thing is, you know, sometimes wiping does not suffice
and you just need to just the cleansing power of
a water stream is just great, great for you. Let
me let me even expand on that just in general,
Like if you roll around in dirt and like mud
(48:19):
and then just get a dry paper towel and wipe
yourself off, you're still dirty. You can still see the
dub the mud smears, So at least use a baby
white out. At least use a baby white And if
you want to get to that next level, get yourself
up a day. Yeah, man, we're just making just making
changes over here. Ya got the day's anybody? And I've
(48:40):
had one for airbnbad a house once that had one
and you never left. Yeah, I definitely need to Was
it not know that was a edition? Was it European stylar?
It was one with like the fancy toilet seat. Fancy
toilet seat. You can get a more expensive like you
can get one like three hundred bucks as like heated
(49:01):
toilet seeds and heated water and yeah, the most lit
ones are made by Toto the total Washlet shout out
to Japanese ingenuity, although who knows who invented it first,
but yeah, shout out to the bidet and shout out
shout out. Hit us up with your bidday stories. Yeah,
the first time you use a bi day, how did
it take a picture? Take a photo of yourself the
(49:22):
moment the budat hits you? So you didn't capture that
moment my first biddaye or like? Also you ever pay
attention to the face you make me wipe your ass? No,
think about that next time you wipe your ass. If so,
if you make a face while you do it, like
if it's like cocked eyebrow a purse lip. You know,
(49:42):
I probably do, like just be aware of the face
you make when you're weipping you, but probably carl my lip,
Probably Carl it Mine's just a lot of like downtrodden
self reflection, like they're like, I'm wiping again, it's never ending,
or it's like the it's like like dential crazy or
a puppy dog guilt. Every time they like poop, they
(50:03):
just look guilty. Right, all right, that's gonna do it
for this week's weekly Zeite. Guys, please like and review
the show. If you like the show, uh means the
world to Miles. He needs your validation. Folks. I hope
you're having a great weekend and I will talk to
(50:26):
him Monday. By
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