Weekly Zeitgeist 290 (Best of 9/5/23-9/8/23)

The weekly round-up of the best moments from DZ's season 303

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of the
Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from
this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment laugh stravaganza. Yeah, so,
without further ado, here is the Weekly Zeitgeist, Sophia. We

(00:25):
do like to ask our guests, what is something from
your search history?

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Okay, so I have recently gone insane, and thank you
so much Smith. I've been working so hard. It's really
just it's just an honor to be nominated.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
And then right, yeah, truly on your first try.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
This is how you know I'm insane. Okay. I went
from not caring or liking Taylor Swift at all to
now joining a reddit called galer where I have seen
multiple slide show presentations that prove that Taylor Swift was

(01:09):
gay with Carly Kloss and others that proved that she
was also gay with Diana Agron from Glee and also
this other model from Britain named Lily. They are all
just the same white woman. She's just fucking herself over
and over again. It's just like kind of fascinating. And
now like, this is how you know I've gone insane,
Because if you look at that search history, you will

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probably think I am seventeen maybe I don't know, and.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
You're shipping shipping Taylor with all these models.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
I like, I don't care that. It's like I don't
have a vested interest in the relationships, right, I care
about it in the same way that if, like you
found out that, like I don't know, Obama and Biden
were lovers, you were like, Okay, I need to know
a little bit more about how the fuck this works,

(02:00):
Like how did you pull this off?

Speaker 3 (02:03):
When did they get together? I need to all of
the questions.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
Yeah, it's like, well, how do you do that and
have full time boyfriends? Like this is a lot of
like like covering being gay, Like how how are you
pulling it off? So anyway, just if you want to
lose your goddamn mind, go down that rabbit hole.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
Are these slide shows like particularly compelling or they're just
like look at all these images that if you have
your confirmation bias set to galer, then yes.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
And yes, But also some of the stuff is like, wow,
that is very gay. I don't know that I should
be out here trying to decide whether Taylor is gay
or not. But the whole reddit is run by other
gay people who are just obsessed with the idea that like,
she's queer and her music is queer, and she's been

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telling us and showing us and we're just like not
getting it. So as a cultural study, it is the
most fascinating thing. And to answer just I show a question,
some of them are like they're like a little thumbprint.
They're like a very individual snapshot of a person's mind. Right,
it's like all confirmation bias obviously, Yeah, but you're also

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watching them interr pret song lyrics where you're like, oh, no,
that just means any and you want it to me.
That is a very vague lyric like no, it refers
to the one time that Carly bought a gold dress.
It was this day, here's the receipt. The song that
says jeans and Nikes. Carly was a Nike spokesperson in

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twenty sixteen. You understand how deep.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
These women go. I love that you You also have
facts now that like you know these models like endorsement.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
I shouldn't know any of this. That is what's so insane.
I shouldn't know any of it. I shouldn't be thinking
about it. It is like an addiction, Like I think
assume what people feel like when they gamble, just like
a rush.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
Yeah, it's like.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
Insane, and then it doesn't make any sense, but you're like,
let's keep doing it. Yeah, anyway, the gay the subreddit
do it.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
She kind of has to be everything to everyone right, right,
and so like by keeping things that perfectly vague, yeah,
it kind of creates this thing where she can like
break all the box office records when she lets people
go watch a concert that they can also watch in person.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
Yes, but I also just enjoy the fact that, like
she's just if she is gay, she's only gay for
exact copies of herself, which I think is a fascinating category.
It's like, no, she's not clear, she's queer for Taylor, right,
Like I just want to find mirror images of myself too. Fuck,
that is so wild.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
Wasn't that Liberaci's thing? Like didn't he have a lover
who he gave plastic surgery to look more like Liberaci?

Speaker 3 (05:00):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Wow, yes that is true.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
Yeah you said that's so unequivocally, Yes, that is true.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
Well, because yeah, I mean people bring that up a
lot as like a Libaraci thing. They're like, did you
know because it's so weird.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
I wonder if, like, I think it's an interesting exercise
just for anyone with an imagination to try and make
anything true about Taylor Swift, like using the same methodology.
We're like you Actually, if you think about it, all
of her lyrics are steeped in like black panther ideology.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
There's someone right now making that slideshow right right right,
like foresure, there's a Swift contingency that's like, you don't
understand what being a black panther is until you listen
to Red Taylor's version, like.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
Red is actually an anthem for the Crip gang despite
it being called Red. And here in this thread, I will,
I will.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
You've seen the theory that her dad is the Zodiac killer, right,
and she's trying to reveal that through her lyrics. I
just made that up, But.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
That is again probably being built right now. Right as
you said it, people were like, this is true, Sady.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
What's something you think is overrated?

Speaker 4 (06:18):
So I think you know, when you go to the
like basically the US Border patrol, the fear of US
Border patrol, I think that's overrated because I was like,
it's my first time coming to America and people were like, oh,
this white guy got sent back. He the border patrol
guy asked him three times, what are you doing here?

Speaker 5 (06:38):
What are you doing here?

Speaker 4 (06:39):
And the third time he must have said something funny,
and they sent him back. So I was like, oh
my god, they're not gonna let me in and they're
gonna send me back. And this is what happened. The
guy basically was like, did you travel alone? And I
was like yeah, unfortunately, I'm on my I'm single. And
he was like how long you here for us had
two months? And he was like, oh, you here to
get some dick.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
I was like what wa Yeah.

Speaker 4 (07:01):
Basically we just start laughing. I had a whole suitcase
full of my book sex Well. I'm like, oh no, please,
don't search my suitcase. And he was just like, welcome
to America.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
Yeah, wow, get it in. Yeah, boom boom, stamped your
ship af you go.

Speaker 5 (07:17):
I was gone.

Speaker 4 (07:18):
I was I was going to do anything I had
to do to get in, to be honest, whatever he wanted.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
So, I mean that sounded like he was opening the
door to that conversation. He's like, oh, is your numbering
your passport? Let me see that real quick. Let me
get that whatsappen.

Speaker 4 (07:32):
But the thing is before me, I was sweating in
the lines. Before me, there was this like European. She
didn't look British, but she was a white blonde girl.
He took her to the room and then came back
to the table so she had some further questioning. So
I was like, that's a white girl. I was like,
I'm in trouble, and we just start laughing. It was
I was just so happy the way that worked out.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
Yeah. Yeah, I don't, I don't. I can't imagine. I mean,
like I feel like I was a very New York
in her eye show too, Like if someone in that
capacity goes, oh so you hear from Dick like.

Speaker 5 (08:05):
That accommodating, right, yeah yeah, oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
I'm glad he knew the audience rather than like saying
that to someone who maybe.

Speaker 4 (08:15):
I just love how he sensed desperation, you know what
I mean, Like he didn't know me, he must have
just seen my but he was like, why are you
moving around in the in the queue. I was worried
about him. He must have thought I was like just
ready to pounce right right.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
He was like asking, why were you were like giving
a little squirm.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
What was Yeah.

Speaker 4 (08:33):
He was like, oh you're you're moving from side to side,
and I was like, I just be quiet because I
just I'm not going to argue with no one who's
got authority over me.

Speaker 5 (08:41):
Like it's just not going to happen.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
Right right, right, right right. You're like, oh, so you're
a doctor. Now You're like you're not going to come
back with that response, like, yeah.

Speaker 4 (08:50):
I don't know what I said. I must have said
something back to him. I said, oh, you're no, this
is what I said the castlicer. I mustaid, Oh, you're
very observant.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
There, you I mean, yeah, he is.

Speaker 6 (09:01):
He kind of landed on the on the right question, right, Yeah,
so wait, maybe like there are some people work in
the US Border Patrol who are like born for this,
Like I'm.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
Just very observant and.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
I can read people I know, and that's why super.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
Right, yeah, right exactly. The nervous person in line whisper.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
Right while you're here, So two months are you are you?
Are you out there? You're gonna be you be hitting
the app so you're gonna you staying open, you're looking
for love. You just kind of you know you're here
if someone happens, it happens, you're not how you're really
looking for.

Speaker 4 (09:38):
Someone told me actually when I was in England because
I'm trying to like find an agent or whatever not,
and they were like, oh, you should just join all
the apps, like because you'll meet the best people like that.
She wasn't even really strictly talking about dating. But I'm
very anti app. I just I just I don't like it.
I like real life kind of stuff. So love would
be great, Dick would be really good.

Speaker 3 (09:59):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, get you. Yeah, we need to get
you to like an art opening, like a gallery opening,
you know what I mean, find some find some wavy.

Speaker 5 (10:06):
Listen these guys on the streets collecting cans.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
Yeah yeah, You're like, are you willing and able? Then?

Speaker 5 (10:14):
No, I love them. I pasted out. You know, I'm
gonna lie.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
I love them?

Speaker 5 (10:17):
Are not willing and they're not able?

Speaker 3 (10:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (10:21):
Like Myles, I like that you went with art opening,
Like are you are you picturing Thomas Crown Affair? What
do we picturing?

Speaker 5 (10:28):
Now?

Speaker 3 (10:29):
Just thinking like people who are kind of chill, you know,
like because you never know what you get in a club,
you know, so I feel like.

Speaker 5 (10:37):
You know, tell me. You can't get in the club,
so I can watch out for it.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
But yeah, I feel like side, you got a little
bit of class tour, you know, so probably you could
do with something a little bit elevated, you know what
I mean, not just some scrub. But yeah, but again,
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (10:50):
I don't mean I'm like classy too.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
I'm yeah, right, my final dress at the library.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
Looking for something? All right, what is Marcella? What is
something that you think is overrated? You know?

Speaker 7 (11:04):
I couldn't think of something maybe because I.

Speaker 5 (11:06):
Got a little high.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
But yeah, you got a little high, A little high
this time, ladies and gentlemen, introducing a little bit high
Marcella for the first time. She's never been a little bit.

Speaker 7 (11:16):
High on our podcast, on anyone's podcast. Okay, I trust you, guys.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
Yeah, I saw that.

Speaker 7 (11:22):
I thought there was not going to be a guest host.
I was like, you know what, I can get a
little high. I read the comments. People get mad and
I'm so mean to Jack and I know, and I'm
a little high. I'm a little more.

Speaker 3 (11:33):
I like that Jackie's fun. It's all good.

Speaker 7 (11:38):
I love how I loved Jack's liked you nice to
Marcelo when she's mean to me. Guys, it's okay, Yeah,
I mean a lot of And you know what's funny
is a lot of guys don't understand it too. There's
a comic who's like, has a little crush on me,
and I'm just very mean to him. Yeah, and I
really give it to him more because i know he
really enjoys it, and I'm waiting for him. I'm waiting

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for him to be like, Marcella, why are you so mean?
And I can't wait to be like, stop asking me
why I'm so mean? And ask yourself why you like it?

Speaker 5 (12:08):
You bitch.

Speaker 7 (12:09):
Oh that's going to be a moment when he when
I have that exchange. I wait, I know it's gonna
happen one day because this is such a mean Why
do you like it?

Speaker 2 (12:18):
You?

Speaker 7 (12:20):
Yeah, that's the real question. What's your mom do to you?

Speaker 5 (12:22):
Bro?

Speaker 7 (12:22):
That's what I want to know.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
What didn't you do?

Speaker 1 (12:25):
You little pain?

Speaker 5 (12:26):
Hug?

Speaker 2 (12:28):
So yeah, I'm a.

Speaker 7 (12:28):
Little high, So I'm a little I'm a little more
fun and a little more rambling.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
But it'll be.

Speaker 7 (12:32):
Worth it, guys. So like I just showed you, but
over under it, I couldn't think of something. But so
I decided to google things like what did people find overrated?

Speaker 3 (12:44):
Because I was like, there you go.

Speaker 7 (12:45):
This is because it's all it's all opinion. So the
top three things in the first three articles. The number
one thing one bitch wrote bacon overrated. It's overrated. Okay,
so I already know the bitch has no taste.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
Like, I also feel like you're about to out a
bunch of our former guests because they're like, what if
you well, what if you like named a bunch of
like other people overrated and underrated, and they were just
like googling, like, I don't have opinions are overrated.

Speaker 7 (13:16):
That's probably true to think about that. You're totally right.
But bacon, come on, yeah, it's simple meat. It's so good.

Speaker 3 (13:25):
I think we've said this in the in the past.
We're like, it's properly rated. I get like, ten years ago,
we were doing too much.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
It was o debates, overrated by some people who are
not worth paying attention to. Nobody who are bacon people? Yeah,
but like who gives a fuck about them? Like let
them have their weird little thing.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
Yeah, go to the like as they say, it's like
the fucking heart attack cafe or whatever the fuck it's called,
where like everything is bacon, Like I get it, we
get it, but like you don't, don't you gotta hate
on it?

Speaker 7 (13:54):
Yeah, it's so tasty, it's so good good.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
What else was about when you find yourself being like, uh,
like I don't even really like this thing. That's fucking
delicious and like makes my body like involuntarily do things
like water just pour out of my mouth.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
Oh my god.

Speaker 5 (14:13):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
But when that's your take, like you're you're working too
hard to have a take exactly.

Speaker 7 (14:20):
I also just you know, it's good when religions are
like you cannot have it, like you know.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
That shit is good?

Speaker 5 (14:26):
Man?

Speaker 7 (14:28):
Ready here? So another okay, another article. I'm not going
to name these people because they're all weirdos. But another
person they're article and her number one choice was clubbing, clubbing,
going out clubbing, and it was just like you loser, bitch, like,
stop imposing your introverted lifestyle on people who enjoy being outside.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
When was the last time you went to the club? Though,
more so you go to the club.

Speaker 7 (14:52):
Well, because of my foot injury, it has been few
and far between, but I will say, like two weeks
ago I think I was like my birthday party weekend,
so was at what middle of August? So yeah, like
a couple of weeks ago. I was out and I
because my foot injury, couldn't really do much. But yeah,
I took my boyfriend to this place in Medesto called Crocodile.

(15:14):
It's like this old ass like it is a wedding
reception without the family. It is so fun. There's like
no drinks on the dance floor. They encourage people to
dress up. There is a strict dress code and not
like not on some like racist dress code on some
like don't come in here, sloppy bro. Like guys have
to have their shirts buttoned up. If they wear a

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button up, like you cannot have a little like tank
top showing underneath. Like they're very much like no, bro,
We're here to dance and drink and have a good
time and respect everybody. And they're on it. Like I
saw them go up to some guy, some young dude,
because he thought he could get away with whatever. He
was dressed up really cute, but he unbuttoned his shirt
to like show off, and dudes came up and were like,
you need to button your shirt back up. Bro, and

(15:57):
I loved it because I was like, yeah, I got
dressed up. You should dressed up too. Couples like seventy
year old couples come in there dressed matching and dance
the night away. Like I love going out dancing, and
that's maybe that doesn't fall under clubbing, but there are
places to go out and have a good time and
dance and enjoy yourself. And I hate when people are

(16:17):
like clubbing is so lame, Like, girl, you just don't
like to drink and be out and it's loud and
you're probably neurodivergent. You can't handle all the fucking sensory overload.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
Shit that's you might toothes like like this, this shit
sounds so fun. We have another guest to talk about,
like going to like there was like a chandelier room
where they were like singing Elvis covers or some shit
like just like go find a weird club.

Speaker 7 (16:42):
To find the club, Yes, find the club that works
for you. But I don't shit on clubbing. Come on
and Jersey Shore shit, I get like you don't want
to be around that. I understand, Like, sure, you know
there's so many different What.

Speaker 3 (16:54):
About bottle Wars did y'all see that clip over the
weekend of the bottle warship that was going on. I know,
like a Houston nightclub. It was like New York versus Baltimore.
Bottle It's like this ship people have been doing for
a while. You just start, you just start emptying bottles
onto the floor for the flex. Oh god, dumping like
six thousand dollars with their liquor, like onto the floor. Yeah,

(17:17):
it's it's the flex, you know what I mean. It
manifests in different ways. But I'm at the Crocodile's website.
I'm looking at they have a whole dress code sub page.
Like so women, no sports attire, no T shirts, no sweats,
no baseball caps, beanies, no overly revealing clothing. I like that.
They're like, we're modest men. Collar dress shirts required, no

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sports attire, no T shirts, no longer shorts, sleeve shirts,
no Henley's, No shallow V necks, oh Henley style of
shallow V necks okay, no hoodies okay, shallow nice dress
sweaters Okay. I can't get away my ship that I
try and pull off with my V neck. Yeah, that
deep like where I'm flirting with exposing navel, yeah percent,

(18:00):
No sweats, no baggy loose clothing. No club colors. What
are club colors?

Speaker 7 (18:04):
Are they to club colors like gang colors? Like red white,
I mean red, I mean red, blue?

Speaker 3 (18:10):
Whatever else? No sandals, flip flops, no fans.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
You can't wear red or.

Speaker 7 (18:14):
Blue, or you just can't wear all red or it
depends on the red and the blue. You can usually tell.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
Right right right, Yeah, if you don't have like a
flag coming out of your pocket with your cool hut on,
then maybe we have a problem. Wait, but you're saying
this isn't on some like racist ship, because it's very
much like they just want or they just want everybody
to come in, like it's like it's a nice place, like.

Speaker 7 (18:35):
It's a nice place. I'm telling you that's not They're
they're totally like trust me, Hood motherfuckers show up.

Speaker 3 (18:41):
Right, But there they are. But they're in their plates,
they're in.

Speaker 7 (18:44):
Their player fit. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
It's like it is.

Speaker 7 (18:47):
It seems like it off top, like I get it,
but when you're reading it, but I'm telling you, it's
not that they're like no, no, no, you can be Hood
is fucking here and you can like be annoying and
all that.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
Ship, but just be cute.

Speaker 7 (18:59):
Don't be a mess on the dance floor. You can't.
Like they really are just like no, we're just here.
It's like family. Like it's like a family function.

Speaker 3 (19:06):
I love it. Wow, interior does look like a time capsule.

Speaker 7 (19:10):
It is, dude. It's so fun if you're ever in
the Central Valle and you want to go out, especially
on Saturday night. Friday nights are pretty empty, but Saturday
nights are always popping and they're soap and it's the
music is insane. Yeah, wow, music is insane.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
Like it looks like it's like a fucking scene in
Carlito's Way.

Speaker 7 (19:27):
Or yes, dude, yeah, so that's what I'm saying. When
you walk in there, you want.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
To look cute right right right.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
They want you to match the vibe.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
It's like Carcado's Way mixed with a laser tag, like.

Speaker 5 (19:39):
Yeah, it's cute.

Speaker 7 (19:41):
So the music, like the other day, it was like
it went from like suave mee to like eminem something
like the music is insane. It's silly. It's just you're
there for a silly time right right now. And that's
the other thing. That's why it's like even the music
is like kind of corny, but like in that fun way.
Whe're like we never high school. Yeah, yeah, you know

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you're at a party. You're just like, you know, you're
just gonna be kissing tonight. That's it.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
Wow, shout out crocodile.

Speaker 7 (20:07):
I love crocodiles. It's the funnest all right.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
So finding a weird club is underrated having a like
cool yeah, Unie.

Speaker 7 (20:14):
She was saying it was overrated, but it's like, now
a man, find the clubs that work for you. And
then the final article that I saw that the I've
only gave the first one for the other two articles.
I got to give the two on this one because
it's really funny how they go hand in hand. This
guy's idea of what's overrated. The first one is a
formal education, which I agree, But then the second one

(20:37):
is science.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
This guy's got some opinions on the go. He's done
some research, some of his own research on the vaccine.
I don't think he's a fan of Fauci.

Speaker 7 (20:50):
Yeah, because it's like, oh yeah, formal education. I agree.
Not everybody should be required to fucking for any fucking
job to have a fucking aaba any of that shit.
There's plenty of jobs of don't eat that shit. And
then he said science and I was like, bro, I'm
tapping out. We are not agreeing on the same on
the same number one.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
He's like, yeah, wh I got my master's degree on YouTube,
you know what I mean. That's why I can go
toe to toe with any person who went to a
brick and mortar college, like go, sure, Okay.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
Actually got a Bachelor of Science from Praguer University, from
which that's not usually there especial price based it's all
faith based science.

Speaker 7 (21:28):
I got mine at ragu University, all sauce.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
Prego rag old world style degree.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
All right, Uh, let's take a quick break and we'll
come back and we'll check in with Donald Trump. We
like to do it once a week, just make sure
he's doing all right. We'll be right back and we're back,

(22:01):
and uh, we won't be playing the Drake drop for this. No.
Sixty one protesters have been indicted for violating Georgia's Rico
Act for protesting the building of a massive military installation.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
Uh huh A lot clear where the bad guys are right, Yeah, Oh,
of course the protesters. Y, of course, how dare you?

Speaker 3 (22:28):
They're getting hit with charges like domestic terror for like
trying to disable like machines or like you know, they're
like they're throwing molotov cocktails and all this other stuff.
Money laundering because they were setting up bail funds. They're
trying to like they're going after these people in the
most fucked up way. The charges are being pursued by
the state's attorney general, you know, Republican Chris Carr. And yeah,

(22:51):
this is like a some multifaceted movement of people that
realize that building these police training facilities are just merely
a terrible escalation of the militarized like police state that
we're experiencing across the country, and you know, antithetical to
lowering instances of police brutality. When you're like here's like

(23:12):
an here's a whole place where you can train on
how to suppress people's you know, democratic rights and things
like that, it's.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
Like the police Brutality Training Complex.

Speaker 3 (23:21):
Oh yeah, because they wanted to. They want to be like,
we want them to have the feeling of what it's
like to like, you know, kettle people in city streets
or neighborhoods so they can do it more efficiently to
like round up people. And you know, the Attorney General
and governor have been just steadily screaming about how like
this this whole thing is actually the work of like
an it's like an organized criminals. This is a criminal

(23:43):
organization and enterprise to sort of create this rico narrative
to go after protesters. And if you want to really
understand how cynical and racist this shit is, if you
just look at the date listed on the indictments for
like they like they're putting May twenty fifth, twenty twenty
as sort of like the beginning of like this shit
going down, which is the day George Floyd was murdered. Okay, wow,

(24:03):
So they want to conflate this event with all of
the scary BLM protests to say, like, you see what's
going on, folks, it's just this like large movement to
so discord and chaos when all we're trying to do
is make people safer. One of the days in Atlanta,
Sherry Boston said that her office would withdraw withdraw from
criminal cases involving the cop involving Cop City. But it's

(24:24):
this is some scary shit. I mean, like, these are
people exercising their First Amendment rights and the state in
City of Atlanta have just made the whole this like
into a campaign of like democratic suppression. You know, Like
there's the officials they blocked a referendum on Cop City.
They ignored all the pleas from the public, all the
public comment like we do not want this, or other
people in like Dacab County who are like this is

(24:46):
near where I live, this is I do not want this.
I do not want to see the forest raised so
you can create this fucked up training facility. Then there
were people who were like like local election board members
were removed for opposing Copcity, and now we're charging protesters
with domestic terrorism under the Rico Act.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
Yeah. Also, I was gonna say that you should have
so much shame that you're using the fucking Rico Act,
which was used to bring down Copone.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
Yeah, right on these people.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
Yeah, like just the fact, like how do you even
put that in your mind together as even remotely in
the same camp. Well, it's just so fucking yeah. I
mean I always am shook and like speechless because like
I expect people at some point to have shame, and
then I'm like, no, but they don't like what am

(25:39):
I talking about. They're heartless and yeah, driven completely by
money and power, So why am I so shocked? But
it's like every fucking time, you know.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
And to try and again scare people from wanting to
put checks and balances, you know, on our system, especially
as it relates to law enforcement. It's like, oh, you
want to protest this, watch to go scorched Earth on
your ass. Meanwhile, we're like, yeah, these people who like
storm the you know, like we have like people capital
protesters where you see judge and you're like, well, you know,
I kind of want to go softer? Am I sentencing

(26:10):
here or there? Where you have a very focused AG's
office in Georgia being like, yeah, you know what, let's go,
let's go reco on them and try and make an
example of these people.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
Also, sorry, I was just gonna say I was legally
arrested for protesting in college. Yeah, illegally arrested for protesting
in college. And I was part of a class action
lawsuit against the Metropolitan Police Department in DC and we won,
and like it was one of the most kind of

(26:45):
fucked up in traumatic things being detained the way I was.
I also wasn't a citizen yet, I was just a
resident alien, and like they you know, took all of
my paperwork, my resident alien card, all my shit, like
when the cops twined it off of I just never
got it back. But the amount of time and like

(27:06):
effort and everything it takes to even go through a
thing where you would then sue, like we ended up
changing the law, but the number of years that it takes,
like and the way that they treated us. You know,
I was zip tied right hand to left foot for

(27:26):
like over twelve hours, you know, the way they fucking
like treated us in jail whatever, it just it was
super fucked up. But the fact that they did that
Friday morning, really early before an entire weekend of protests,

(27:47):
that's pretty much the same tactic here. It's like they
try to go hard early to discourage protesting, you know
what I'm saying, Like in the future, and it's the
same tactics that Bush used. Because it was they were
training in riot gear cops four months before this, Like

(28:08):
it was all they had buses numbered ready to go
because they were like, we're taking hundreds of people off
the street. So then for the rest of the weekend
there's no protests.

Speaker 3 (28:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
So it's like it just like it makes me so
fucking pissed because these people are gonna get fucked on
a much much larger scale. What I'm talking about is
child's play. And it's still was hard to get any
sort of justice or change the law or have anything
be different. And I feel like the number one thing

(28:38):
they tell you when you protest, right, they're like, hey,
you know, you guys are thugs. You don't use the
system correctly, Like why don't you use the lawful system?

Speaker 3 (28:47):
And that is what I did in this instance too.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
Yeah, and it's like, okay, well I'll tell you I
did the actual lawsuit and the lawful thing, and it
is that is not you think that that's justice, that
that's really what people should be doing, or that that
fixes anything. Like obviously, if you are thinking that there's
the right and wrong way to protest, you also are
going to think that there's never the right way.

Speaker 3 (29:11):
Yeah, people went to those city council meetings, they gathered signatures,
they did every they tried it every single way. But again,
when you have municipality and this bureaucracy, that's just intent,
like just so intent on making this installation happen, no
matter what you get these kinds of fucked up measures.
And yeah, I'd hate to bring up private equity.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
No, don't do it, Miles, but it can't have.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
Two of the biggest corporate backers of cop City are
Rourke Capital, which is a private equity firm that owns
inspire brands, you know, the Duncan, RBS, Baskin, Robbins, Buffalo
Wild Wings, et cetera. Their CEO sits on the board
of trustees for the Atlanta Police Foundation, and they're raising
sixty million dollars from corporate donors to build this place.

(29:56):
Like so there's one part of it. The other is
Silver Lake Management, which sounds like a cool maybe talent
agency that represents bands from the East side of the LA.
But no, no, no, it.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
Sounds like a like a like a land lording agency, right,
like you rent your apartment from.

Speaker 3 (30:13):
In Silver Lake, right exactly. Silver Lake Management, they actually
are tech focused private equity firm and they have a
huge steak in Motorola Solutions aka the company that designed
the surveillance system to make Atlanta the most surveiled city
in the United States, and they also develop really cool
tools for use in prisons the US Mexico border, and surprise, surprise,

(30:38):
the West Bank because we talk about there's this conversation
of using these sort of like crowd control technologies. They
start off they can they use them like abroad, and
the West Bank fine tune them, and then we end
up seeing them boomerang onto our own shores, used against
our people who are exercising their First Amendment rights. So yeah,
it's wild to think that the ratio of cameras to

(30:58):
people in Atlanta, it's forty almost forty nine cameras per
thousand people in Atlanta. That's the highest. It's more than DC,
it's more in New York City. And you're like, huh huh.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
It also feels like we're seeing like a FUCOS boomerang
on like the legal president of Like, okay, we cheered
when they used this against Trump, and then they're like, okay,
so you're good, but watch this then and then watch this.
We're going to use it against your ability to protest
against a fucking military installation.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
It's just amazing. These are the people that are like,
I'm sorry, the Second Amendment is everything I'm like, okay, well,
what about that other amendment. Yeah, you know, no one
that protects the right to protest, which you should be
into because you're so into the law of the land
right now. No, that amendment, I guess is bullshit. The

(31:49):
first amendment. We just don't look at that one. That
one's just like what epps.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
Yeah, And I mean then you look at like even
protesters that were killed by the police over the court
like it's this is it's it's it's mind blowing. And yeah.
Now again it's like the Republican Attorney General is like, yeah,
watch this, I'll use the same grain jury that got
those charges for Trump and we'll use it for this now. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
So, and I think there's a really valid point, Sophia
that like they're you know, as we see more fear
from the wealthy, as we see the billionaire owner of
Cardier lose more sleep over the idea that like eventually
the people are going to be pissed that we're billionaires, right, Like, yeah,

(32:32):
the more we see that, the more we're going to
see things like this where they're trying to make an
example of people protesting. Yeah, I think it's imperative that
we keep attention on these people and like, you know,
understand that these are people who are working on our behalf,
even though I think the mainstream media narrative is not

(32:54):
always going to be very favorable to the to the
protesters right.

Speaker 3 (32:57):
Now, and hardly would you hear it where it's like wow,
they're really I mean again, everything is always tinged with
slightly pro cop bias, So they just want to make
it look like it's a bunch of like hippies who
want to save the trees in the forest, when a
lot of people like this is again, we're ramping up
our militarized police state in a time when all they've proven,

(33:20):
all we've seen from our law enforcement system is that
it doesn't work. Doesn't work, it doesn't prevent crime. All
it does is pile up more victims of police brutality.
But yeah, these are the stakes right now.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (33:33):
No.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
I think also these strategies, you know, always repeat. It's
like every single time protesting happens, the way that they
try to quell it is always tactics that they've used before.
And I think one of those things is like that's
great about the internet is if you go and protest,
I just want to make that clear to everybody that like,

(33:55):
you absolutely should if you can, but you should absolutely
know going out what you should do and not do.
Have the you know, National Lawyer's Guild number on you,
like all of the stuff that you absolutely need to
know you can look up. And it's just I think,
really really important because like a privileged fucking white woman,

(34:16):
I was still like an immigrant, which again scared me
because you know, they charged me, they try to charge
me with rioting because we asked for food and writing
is a felony and if that happened, I would have
been super fucked And like again privileged white woman, still
was really fucked up experience. And you just need to

(34:38):
know what you're going in and you need to have
friends on the outside when you're protesting so that you
know they know what the deal is. You have a plan,
just like be careful when you do it. That's all.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
Yeah, yeah, because they ain't playing fair out of here.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
No, no, no, they're not all right. If you guys
heard the game six Degrees with Kevin Beagan, sink pivot,
sick pivot.

Speaker 3 (35:02):
Oh yeah, pivot.

Speaker 5 (35:05):
Have you seen this?

Speaker 3 (35:06):
You guys heard about this?

Speaker 1 (35:07):
You see this? Oh yeah, wait I got our guest
last last time, when Sophia was almost like the thing
the thing that is underrated about your podcast is the
hurdling changes of pace.

Speaker 3 (35:19):
Oh yeah, we got to hit them all the guys
comes at you quick.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
It does you know? Does your news feed stop to
coddle you and think about your feelings?

Speaker 3 (35:35):
Don't you get a mixture of Apple alerts that are
like bummer news? And then also it's like highly genderin
Timothy Shallow.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
More Timothy Shallow relationship updates than I am.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
I mean I just go on the internet. I'm like,
wowious joke about bussy and then underneath that, like we
have created another monster voltron of cops. I'm like that
that's live and.

Speaker 7 (36:01):
Then is it good for your city?

Speaker 1 (36:04):
Yeah? Okay, cool, thank you?

Speaker 2 (36:11):
Oh yeah, your sexy dark voice is gone.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
I know my sexy voice smiles. I had the deepest
voice that I've ever had when You're gone.

Speaker 3 (36:19):
When you were sick.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
Yeah, gave me like crazy deep voice.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
Yes, I mean not that cool.

Speaker 3 (36:27):
It was still but people or like what's that what's
the opposite of helium? That that gas? Or like you
can like yeah before like super loose, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
How I felt.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
Loved it especially, but everybody loved it. People were customerized.
You could tell a sa that was we're falling for
him the fluoride.

Speaker 3 (36:51):
That's what it is.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
They victor like justin everybody, everybody falling up over it.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
All right, So there's a new study from six different nations.
This is just this is like one of those studies
where it's like, wow, you did everything so well to
like just put this into a press release, and I'm
not mad at it. You did a good job. Fine,
you've gotten my attention. But basically the whole thing, they're like,

(37:23):
the thing about six degrees of come bacon also happens
in real life where there's like six degrees of separation,
and they kind of looked at the math of how
humans form our friend groups and basically we are constantly evaluating.
It's very very much sounds like, you know, a scientist

(37:48):
who has not spent a lot of time around other humans,
like observing humans because they're like human is constantly evaluating
the cost benefit of keeping up old relationship alive or
making a new friend.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
And he did the study because he wanted a friend.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
Totally, why do we do anything right? And I probably
read it because of that. But the study like spends
a lot of time basically explaining why people have friends,
like they're just very confused about that.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
I think that's pretty sweet of that article, I know,
isn't it.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
I kind of love it. But the interesting details the
Nash equilibrium, like the point at which people have no
further incentive to go incentive to go outward with their
friend making or inward with their friend pruning usually lands
at a place that averages out to six degrees of
separation from like everyone else on the planet, which is wild,

(38:49):
but that that's the I mean, it makes sense. Like
I assumed it was going to be something about like
network dynamics and like how you know, over over time,
you're like sort of compounding the number of like just
you know, three degrees of separation away. You've like compounded
the number of people that everyone knows. But it's also
about how like the sizes of those groups that each

(39:12):
person is connected to well different, you know, workout to
an average of about an average of about six huh.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
How so, but that wouldn't have been true pre Internet.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
I think it has been true.

Speaker 3 (39:32):
That's the thing, Like, I think it's pre Internet, right,
that yeah, yeah existed.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
So like no, no, no, I just mean, oh, I
just mean, do you really? I guess I was thinking,
like it's easy for me to think of being six
degrees away from anyone on the planet, like with the
Internet and like also just like oh, you have a
friend that lives in this country and blah blah blah
blah blah. Right, but I'm thinking.

Speaker 1 (39:53):
Track yeah, yeah, right, right, right. So I didn't know
the origin of the experiment or of the the idea
of six degrees. It's actually Milgram, you know, the guy
who like gives the experiment. Yeah, it's the famous shock
experiment where people come into a lab and it was
based on like the trials of Nazi prison camp guards

(40:18):
at the Hug and how they were like, we were
just following orders, and so he did this experiment show
that people will continuously shock people whether or not. So
basically the people weren't actually being shocked. Put a person
a white lab coat, is like, keep keep administrating.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
Basically he wouldn't see the person. The person who was
administering the shocks quote unquote, would hear someone's sounds of pain, yeah,
but that person was acting. But the person who was
shocking them didn't know they were acting, right, so they
can what later churned out in addition to the result
of like, oh yeah, people will straight up just follow
orders because a guy I know, lab coat was like shocking.

(41:01):
But the other thing that came out of it is
a lot of ethics stuff for how you run studies,
because the people that were fake shocking, once they found
out it was fake, they were like super fucking traumatized. Yeah,
I'm not really great my life knowing that essentially you
used me to prove that I could be a Nazi.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
A Nazi, go.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
Lay down, you know what.

Speaker 3 (41:23):
I just fallen orders, man, you just fallen orders.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
You know.

Speaker 3 (41:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
And there are other things about the design of that
experiment and like how so like some people might have
really known that they were acting and who knows. But
the other big experiment he did that I was not
as familiar with was they basically tried to connect two
people in as few steps as possible, just by like
sending out this brown paper package and being like, hey,

(41:51):
we're trying to get this to a Divinity student in Boston.
You are a farmer in Iowa that we've ran dumbly
selected from the entire population of the US, like go
and what they found they were like, oh, well, I
know this episcopalian like in my town. The episcopalian was like,

(42:12):
I actually know somebody who I like met at an
Episcopalian conference who's from Boston. And they got this package
to this randomly selected divinity student and like a matter
of six degrees and they they found that to be
kind of consistently the case when they ran this experiment.
And the thing that I hadn't fully appreciated is like

(42:35):
they also asked people before this experiment, like what would
you think the results would be, and like that.

Speaker 3 (42:43):
How many steps would take?

Speaker 1 (42:44):
Yeah? How many steps? And that that is like you know,
I've known the six degrees of separation. I've known that phrase.
I've known that that that is a Will Smith movie
since I was, you know, properly storing memories. So I
don't know what my guess would be, but the guess
has ranged from like one hundred to one thousand, two

(43:04):
people being like you'll never connect them, like it'll just
like why would you ever be able to connect two
random people? Like the world is so big and so massive.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
I would have guessed twelve for some reason really like
ten or twelve. I think, what would you have guessed?

Speaker 1 (43:18):
I think I would have guessed a word one hundred.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
Yeah, if no one had said anything about six degrees
of whatever.

Speaker 3 (43:23):
Ever, yeah, I would probably think one hundred. Feels like
I could do it within one hundred. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
it feels like a safe that it is. It is
a little mind blowing. You're like, would probably take less
than ten. You're like, really, yeah, it seems Yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
The fact that it's single digits, I think, like totally
fucks me up. Yeah, exactly, fucks me up.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
The way my voice fucked up everybody last week fucked
up never No.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
Yeah, Miles, you better listen to that episode if you're respectful.

Speaker 3 (43:53):
Man and I get all self conscious and that come
on tomorrow's episode, like, y, so we'll sell you as well.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
Be able to.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
Record anymore because you're just blushing so hard the entire time.

Speaker 3 (44:06):
It's just talking to me with that voice. Yeah, but I.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
Mean, like not putting yourself on camera because people can't
handle it, just can't. You can't be on zoom.

Speaker 3 (44:20):
It's hard, like so now they can, So how you
can apply this now to all kinds of sort of
like network mapping, right if you kind of know this
to be sort of it averages out to around six
no matter what helps like with all kinds of like
I guess you know how we look at pandemics or
other network dynamic or network dynamic dependent phenomena.

Speaker 1 (44:42):
Yeah, it's six infection cycles and the whole world has.
The fucking thing is like kind of the dark side
of this finding is you know, it spreads quick right,
And I think this is true of also like social contagion,
like the how quickly ideas spread, you know, because that
that's a thing that spreads over over social media like

(45:05):
faster than it ever has. And so I think we're
less stable like across wide geographic margins than we ever
have been, Like we're more susceptible to ideas that come
in and sweep through and change things. And it's definitely
like a power a powerful study because they yeah, they

(45:27):
specifically say, when we did the math, we discovered an
amazing result. This process always ends with social paths centered
around the number six. Each individual acts independently without knowing
the network as a whole. Yet this self driven game
shapes the structure of the entire network, leading to the
small world phenomenon and the recurring pattern of six degrees.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
That's fucking crazy.

Speaker 3 (45:50):
Yeah, that's yeah, that small world. It is funny that
like when we went to a museum in like London,
we ran into somebody who her magic you didn't even
know book came to find out they were at the
same college at the same time, randomly like helping a
stranger up the steps with a baby stroller and we
had one too, and then started talking and then it's

(46:11):
just like, oh, yeah, my husband went there, and then
it's like, what the fuck, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (46:16):
Yeah, it wasn't even a thing where you were like
wearing the same sweatshirt and like noticed each other.

Speaker 3 (46:20):
Yeah, no, no, not at all. Just groups of parents
college had waving up.

Speaker 1 (46:28):
Yeah, does this guy think.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
He is before run into the same people when I'm
visiting a place, like a different like during my vacation
or whatever, like at a lot of different places and
not like tourist attractions. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
It happened to you ever, that happened to me this weekend,
the Huntington Park or the Huntington Library, whatever the fuck
that thing is.

Speaker 3 (46:52):
Yeah, it's not in gardens.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
It's an amazing huge garden, and like we arrived with
like three different groups of people like just in line
at the same time, and like kept seeing that we
were just like on the same we would like circulate
going like all these weird different directions, and like kept
seeing those same people.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
And it's a big ass park. Oh, so many different
ways to go. It's like not or when I rented
my place in Paris. I knew one person there and
he was like, oh, what's your address? And I gave
it to him and he started laughing and he's my friend.

Speaker 1 (47:30):
He's half a block.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
His place was half a block away.

Speaker 3 (47:35):
Oh wow.

Speaker 2 (47:35):
Really I knew one person in all of Paris and
ended up renting an airbnb.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
Huge, it's like ten twelve blocks. It's so big. Find
no Paris Like it's you got the Eiffel Tower. You
got a couple streets on the left side of the
Eiffel Tower, the right.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
Done so far, there's the river. We're done.

Speaker 3 (48:00):
You got the sports, the champs. Sports at least a
got it all.

Speaker 1 (48:06):
See so it comes back so.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
Culture champs head me too.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
Yeah, amazing. All right, Well let's take another quick break
and we'll come back and talk about Donald Trump, We'll
be right back, and we're back, and the internet is,

(48:37):
you know, just just clogged with jokes about this recent
flight that had to make an emergency landing because one
of the passengers had just a crazy, just an unexpected
amount of diarrhea. It's un like spilling into the aisles
levels of diarrhea. This was a delta flight for Atlanta

(49:00):
to Barcelona was forced to turn around and make an
emergency landing after a passenger. This is the quote that
I think people are responding to, quote head diarrhea all
the way through the plane. That is a powerful description
all the way through the plane.

Speaker 3 (49:19):
Of that, I think. And then they said it was
a I think then they told that from the cockpit
they said it was a biohazard event. Yeah, that was
forcing them to turn the plane around, which is very
It's something. The amount of obsession with this story is
kind of wild. I don't know if it's tapping into
like just in it like innate fear we have as

(49:42):
people or what. But I I thought this was like
a headline I would see come and go. But the
amount of like other places like Vice TMZ, like all
these other blogs that are now like writing like long
form articles about it, like where did like where did
the sort of of like social norms break down during

(50:02):
this event? Like it is something like I'm now like
seeing think pieces about like how did we get to
the point that I was in.

Speaker 5 (50:09):
The eyes the pook?

Speaker 3 (50:11):
Yeah? How what happened? What went wrong?

Speaker 1 (50:13):
What required? Like why why are they saying social norms
broke down? Like isn't it just somebody who had health problem?

Speaker 3 (50:21):
I think there. I think it's almost wondering, like how
could it be that much? Why is it all? Like
why is it all up and down the plane? Like
with someone in blogging the bathroom. There's just it's caused
more questions than I feel like we even need to ask,
you know, how.

Speaker 5 (50:39):
Much weight he lost?

Speaker 2 (50:40):
Right?

Speaker 5 (50:41):
Will it stay off? You know?

Speaker 1 (50:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (50:43):
I don't know, I need Yeah, we know it's.

Speaker 5 (50:47):
Him because women wouldn't roll like that, you know what
I mean?

Speaker 3 (50:51):
Coming I think it was the dude had to be
wearing cargo shorts. It's just like a like a ru
yeah yeah maybe maybe very yeah. But it's like and
it's just wild too, because now you're seeing like listicles,
like here's some other unusual reasons like Pooh has like
derailed a flight and you're like, wow, well.

Speaker 1 (51:11):
Yeah, I mean that's the thing, is not that abnormal?
Like right, I guess it's usually dogs, right, Like in
twenty fourteen, a plane had to make an emergency landing
because the service dog pooped in the aisle. Let me
get an exact description of that one, because they're like
up to three times, according to multiple media reports. The

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airlines cab and crew did their best to clean up
the mess, but then the animal service dog, according to
US Airways, pooped again up to three times, according to
multiple media reports. In twenty fifteen, a British Airways flight
had to turn around due to a smelly pooh and
the toilet so that presumably was not a dog. I'm
shocked that it doesn't have a more frequently with dogs,
because it did. I had a I don't tell the

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story very often because it turned out our dog was
very sick and like we we didn't realize it at
the time we were traveling with our dog, but our
dog was you know, tiny, spreading out of the bag
we were carrying her, and made a beeline for first
class and just took a massive shit in first class.
The flight attendants like brought her back, told us we

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were going to like have to turn the plane around
if it happened again, And then it happened. It happened
again because she was like an escape artist and it
was it was really bad. I had always admired her
for being a real one and taking the shit in
first class, but you know it, like she ended up
being very, very sick, like when we got when we landed,

(52:40):
we took her to the vet and like she didn't
make it much longer than that, unfortunately. But it was
definitely incredibly stressful. And I have always wondered since I'm like,
how do all these dogs, Like I see a lot
of dogs on the flights, Like how do they they're
I'm just impressed that they know that they need to

(53:01):
hold it and that they're, like, you know, able to
do that the hid time. I guess it's just like
the owners like skip a meal beforehand.

Speaker 3 (53:10):
I guess. I mean, I've flown once with my dog,
and that was the only fear I had the entire flight,
was like you're gonna take a shit everywhere, Like, yeah,
I'm gonna look like the dude with the shitty dog
on the plane or the airport. I mean a lot
of it had to do with like my own I
think shame around having a like it weren't less so
about the like worrying about the dogs, Like the dog
will make me look a certain way, and I'm not

(53:32):
about that life. So I had to maybe put my
my my frail ego aside to let the dog do
his thing. But yeah, I don't know, It's just I
think it's a universal fear we all have, you.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
Know, Yeah, And I think I think there's also a
lot of people like are just focused on what it
must be like to be that person who had this experience.

Speaker 3 (53:54):
Right right, because now all we're talking about is person
the person who did this mess and messed everybody's flight
to Barcelona. You know what happened? What? How could that
have happened?

Speaker 5 (54:06):
Too much, Carrie could.

Speaker 3 (54:07):
Be or maybe just having like our terrible air like
airport food. That's one thing I'll say, the airport food
is better in England than the US, because again I
hate to bring up those like easy meal deal sandwiches,
but if you buy a sandwich in the US airport
is gonna be like a fifteen dollars croissant sandwich with
turkey on it that tastes like absolute shit and who

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knows how good it is. So I feel like it
could be it could be our it could be something
at Hartsfield Jackson Airport. But I don't know. I don't
quite know. The thing with the thing with this, like
the BA flight that had to be turned around due
to a quote smelly pooh, which is a very English
description where Americans would be like, yeah, dude, just shit
everywhere smelly pooh had to be I like that they

(54:52):
said only fifty percent of the air is being recycled?
Is that killing us during the pandemic? Like so much
of the air gets re and like filtered or am
I am? I completely missing that stat because I feel
like that was a thing that people are always told
about how the air on airplanes is much better than
you would imagine.

Speaker 1 (55:11):
Right, I mean, fifty percent is still is that a
lot of the air? But yeah, I don't I don't know.
I don't know what that even means, that fifty percent
of the air is being recycled and cleaned, right, But yeah,
a decision was taken to return for the safety and
comfort of our customers on board. Yeah, very classy.

Speaker 3 (55:29):
Classic.

Speaker 4 (55:30):
Someone complained about the shit. You know that it can't
have been that much. Someone complained, someone just couldn't handle
the shit.

Speaker 1 (55:38):
But in this one, there have been videos from the
from inside the plane after it all went down, and
it looks like there are streaks of something running up
and down the aisles.

Speaker 3 (55:51):
Those you know, it's funny though in these articles, you're like,
those images have not been confirmed by the airline. It
could be topic would be Scott scat propaganda, So I'm
not sure entirely.

Speaker 5 (56:03):
Oh yeah, it was very bad.

Speaker 1 (56:06):
Yeah, yeah, oh my god.

Speaker 3 (56:07):
Well they made at least they made their flight after
a five hour delay.

Speaker 5 (56:11):
So you know who should play the guy in the movie?

Speaker 1 (56:14):
Right? It's a it's a great question. I mean, I
think it kind of has to be Tim Robinson.

Speaker 3 (56:19):
But is it someone nervous? Is it? Or is it?
Or do you see someone with confidence at it? You
know what I mean? Like I can see it being
a villain too. It's like, hey, I don't know what
you want me to do, you know. Oh, you know,
like I think if we put ourselves in that situation,
we might be a little less brazen or confident about it.
But hey, yeah, it's like.

Speaker 1 (56:40):
A confident person then it almost is like are they
just doing it on purpose because they feel like they
can get away with it? Like that that becomes weird.

Speaker 5 (56:48):
And how long till you fly again? Do you know
what I mean?

Speaker 6 (56:51):
Like?

Speaker 5 (56:51):
How long to you right?

Speaker 3 (56:54):
Do they right? Do they do? You get a new plane?
Or they're like or you go back in the plane
and you're kind of clocking all the master You're like, oh,
they didn't really get everything. But you know what, I
don't want to delay my vacation, so let's go.

Speaker 1 (57:05):
Yeah, great questions that we don't We don't currently have
the answer to it. But obviously this is an evolving story.
Obviously that we will you know, well, we'll keep updating
and will will. It's now history has its eyes on
this one. We'll see where it lands, so to speak.

Speaker 5 (57:24):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (57:24):
And finally, Hollywood keeps trying to recreate Barbenheimer in weird ways,
which like, so one thing, we're getting a low budget
parody movie called Barbenheimer about a group of quote fed
up female dolls who build an a bomb to bring
down the patriarchy once and for all. The poster is
a Barbie doll silhouette in front of mushroom cloud and

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it says d cup a bomb Barbenheimer exploding soon m
The studio in charge of this production is Full Moon Features,
best known for the puppet Master and Trancers movies.

Speaker 3 (58:04):
What's Transfers.

Speaker 1 (58:05):
I'm not familiar with puppet Master Trancers. Seems like it's
like trying to capitalize on some other movie. But I'm not.
I'm not sure what what exactly that is.

Speaker 3 (58:17):
It's like, uh, it's I don't know it. It's the
first one came out in nineteen eighty.

Speaker 1 (58:23):
Four, The Transfers, the first Transers.

Speaker 3 (58:26):
It looks like some janky version of like Tron, maybe
not Transformers.

Speaker 1 (58:32):
Huh no, yeah, it's like a fake Transformer's.

Speaker 5 (58:35):
Fake Oh I see.

Speaker 1 (58:38):
Sorry, fantasm like like the this feels like not not
the highest level of it.

Speaker 3 (58:44):
Says a gruff bounty hunter travels back in time to
nineteen eighties Los Angeles to stop a twisted criminal who
can transform people into zombie like creatures.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
Oh that sucks hard hitting it? Well, they so this
came out in eighty four, so they.

Speaker 3 (59:00):
Were of the first transfers did Yeah? Yeah, Helen Hunt
was even in it.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
Wow, all right, so but mostly people, uh in studios
keep trying to awkwardly force pairs of movies that happen
to be releasing on the same day into the Barbenheimer mold.
The most prevalent attempt at the moment seems to be
Saw Patrol because Saw X and the new Paw Patrol
movie both open on September twenty ninth, and so people

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are like, forget Barbenheimer, get ready for Saw Patrol on
September twenty ninth.

Speaker 3 (59:30):
What is the logic they're applying. It's just that, like
Saw in Paul rhyme, Therefore it's the LC double feature
of all time.

Speaker 1 (59:39):
That's what worked about the last one.

Speaker 5 (59:41):
Which one are you gonna watch first?

Speaker 1 (59:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (59:43):
Yeah, Saudia, which one you catch them first? You go
in Paw Patrol first? Or Saw Saw X first? Poo
go Paw first?

Speaker 1 (59:51):
Okay, yeah, yeah, See. I think you need to watch
Saw to like get ready to feel all of like
what is actually happening in the Paw Patrol movie these
I think.

Speaker 3 (01:00:02):
You need to prepare you, right, because the overlap of
that that that's not even a Venn diagram of audiences.
It's just two circles on top of each other, right, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:00:13):
Yeah, yeah, Like Ali, Barbie and Oppenheimer were obviously very
different movies, but they you know, they could conceivably cater
to the same audience like movie lovers first of all,
and then like adults, but like, no adult wants to
see Paw Patrol like that. That's a that's an actual
scientific fact. No adult is going to Paw Patrol with

(01:00:37):
being dragged there by a child, right, But kids would
love to see Saw. They would They probably shouldn't. Yeah, yeah,
there's a lot of fun. There's a lot of creativity
in Saw and things that appeal to a child.

Speaker 3 (01:00:53):
They left puzzles, especially once that end with you becoming
disfigured or dying. Yeah, of course, but.

Speaker 1 (01:01:01):
They they are like both film studios are like playing
into this, like they did a Saw like Saw Patrol
social media post like they had the Paw Patrol puppies
in a post from Paramount Picture saying seven tickets to
Saw Patrol please hashtag Saw Patrol. And then Jigsaw doing

(01:01:24):
like a weird children's puzzle and then I don't know,
it says there is no escape. This is not really
uh oh, but the children's puzzle is a Paw Patrol puzzle.
So it's just Jigsaw having a meltdown and deciding to
killtrol Post. That picture is like of like a mannequin

(01:01:46):
that they just put a pencil in the hands, Like
that is not like real hands and a jacket. You known, Like,
look how rigid the hands are in that picture. It's like,
dress this doll up and we'll say it's Jigsaw. But
isn't Jigsaw That that Jigs was a toy?

Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:02:02):
Oh is it? Huh? Who is the guy? Oh? But
then there was the guy Loki who was dying in
the background, right, who was right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, okay,
I forgot See I'm this is so I don't fuck
with those movies. I'm like, I don't want to see
something where someone's head gets like sucked out with a
vacuum or some shit.

Speaker 5 (01:02:19):
I'm like, yeah, I'm gonna give it that.

Speaker 3 (01:02:21):
Yeah. Yeah, life's already too fucked up. I don't need
to be like, yo, you'd be worse if your eyeballs
got fucking blown out by a fucking vacuum.

Speaker 1 (01:02:28):
Like no, I'm good then, all right, So just others
that are they're trying to shoehorn in Taylor swift eras
Tour and the Exorcist movie. They were trying to make
it into exor Swift, but then the Exorcist movie fucked
off because they didn't want to be on the same
day that Taylor Swift was like breaking the box office, right,

(01:02:48):
and then Indie Wire questioned if the new Barbenheimer could
be the release of Martin Scorsese's historical drama Killers of
the Flower Moon and the sci fi drama Foe, which.

Speaker 3 (01:02:59):
Like this, I don't know. It's just it's very confusing.

Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
I don't know what they It's just I think it
just think happened the time, right.

Speaker 3 (01:03:09):
It just speaks to like the quote unquote brain power
in Hollywood too, where you see like they see a
thing work once and then the first thought is we
need to replicate this in the most literal way possible,
not like zooming out and trying to understand what happened.
They're like, I don't know, they combined the word Barbie

(01:03:30):
and Oppenheimer, and people fucking lost it. So let's do
it with.

Speaker 1 (01:03:34):
All their money.

Speaker 3 (01:03:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:03:36):
Maybe it's like a magic word and we say magic
word and they give us all their money.

Speaker 3 (01:03:40):
We need to find we need to invent the new
magic word to unlock people's brains to buy double feature tickets,
rather than saying this was a you know, serendipitous occurrence
where it was just through sheer coincidence and people being
witty on the internet just kind of became a meme
where they're like, I don't know, these are two ends
of the spectrum that would be kind of interesting, rather

(01:04:02):
than being like exer Swift. Huh.

Speaker 4 (01:04:05):
I think a good mashup would be Scarfacing Godfather. Wouldn't
that be great?

Speaker 3 (01:04:10):
M m yeah, noah.

Speaker 1 (01:04:12):
At the same time, Hell.

Speaker 3 (01:04:14):
Yeah, I'm wondering though too, Like in the past, I'm
sure like there were a ton of weekends like this
where you had movies, but we just didn't have the
Internet to like give it like a new name where
I'm sure too, like two great films came out at
the same time, but yeah, that's so obsessed with.

Speaker 1 (01:04:30):
The or we're at least out at the same time.
Because movies used to stay out for like six months,
they would be in theaters. They were like, you know,
that's that's all we got for this year, folks. We
made three movies. We hope you like one of them. Yeah,
the other options Despicable Meat four opens opposite Mufasa the
Lion King, which those are just two animated movies for children.

(01:04:52):
What the fuck are you guys talking about? But yeah, yeah,
it really feels like people have somehow forgotten that two
movies opening on the same day is just a thing
that happens literally every single week.

Speaker 3 (01:05:03):
Right, Like I mean, I feel like maybe like back
when albums used to come out on Tuesdays, sometimes you
would have those like blessed release days. You're like, yo,
I'm actually getting two albums today. But again, it's it's
just the release schedule, folks, And I don't think you
want to see this.

Speaker 4 (01:05:20):
What it is is that, you know, the first week
sales they like really mean a lot, and I think
it's obviously it's all about the money, right, So they're
just trying to get that did to create that big
hype so that people are just looking at the listings
and be like, oh, that's that's in the top, so
that's the top five, top whatever, let's go check that out.

Speaker 3 (01:05:38):
Yeah, what was the what was the one that, like
Beetlejuice was gonna come out like with something else. They
were saying, Oh, the new Beetlejuice movie. Might they might
have something with that new Beetlejuice thing coming out at
the same time as another movie. But I already forgot
because it doesn't fucking matter. It's two movies fucking coming out, right.

Speaker 5 (01:05:56):
I vaguely remember it, though, I know what you're talking about.

Speaker 3 (01:05:59):
Yeah, yeah, I know that. I think. I'm sure there's
already articles heralding like whatever you beatle former movie is
or whatever the fuck we're gonna get.

Speaker 1 (01:06:09):
All right, that's gonna do it for this week's weekly Zeitgeist.
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