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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of the
Weekly Zeitgeist.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (00:05):
These are some of our favorite segments from this week,
all edited together into one NonStop infotainment laugh stravaganza. Uh yeah, So,
without further ado, here is the Weekly Zeitgeist. What is
something from your search history that's revealing about who you are?

Speaker 3 (00:28):
Okay, there's some pretty fucking weird ones.

Speaker 4 (00:31):
I saw, I looked, I looked yesterday and I was like, huh,
oh you know what I'm I go. I did an
Alpha zombie naked? Did you watch twenty eight years later?

Speaker 1 (00:41):
I didn't, but I've heard on the Alpha Zombie.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (00:45):
And what makes me laugh is that the gay internet
has completely lost like the meaning of the film. The
film is actually surprisingly kind of beautiful and complicated, and
all the gay websites are like, did.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
You see the fucking Flanger?

Speaker 5 (01:00):
Did you see that fucking hunks meat missile?

Speaker 4 (01:04):
Like all the gays have just lost their mind over
the zombie and they've kind of lost the plot on
what it was, what it's been really about that and just.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
Real quickly, yeah does that come into like is it
just it happens to be there and massive and nothing
else is really mentioned or are people. Does anyone ever
react in the moment in the movie to the fact
that this zombi naked zombie.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
Has as a hug.

Speaker 4 (01:33):
No, it's there, It's just there. But I mean obviously
that you see it a lot. You see it slapping
his thighs from a lot of the film.

Speaker 5 (01:43):
But it's just I don't know. Maybe it's there to
say something.

Speaker 4 (01:46):
It's there to say something about toxic masculinity, that even
when you die, you're still beholden to toxic masculinity. Right,
Because the other zombies follow him, they're like, oh, no,
he has a big fucking cock.

Speaker 5 (01:57):
Let's do what he says. It's crazy.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
So he is an alpha, so like that.

Speaker 6 (02:02):
It is.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
It is important. It's it's an important piece of meson scene.

Speaker 6 (02:06):
It's it's also not during the zombie Renaissance, in which
case the smaller dick would have been considered more beautiful.

Speaker 4 (02:13):
Yes, a sign of true civility, yes, But now he's
a barbarian.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
He's a barbarian.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
Could you imagine if the Renaissance paintings had just massive
hogs like the David had a massive.

Speaker 7 (02:28):
Like imagining that my whole life.

Speaker 5 (02:32):
That would have been I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah, that wouldst.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
Talk before about how Jesus like, you know, there's a
lot of paintings and sculptures, maybe maybe the most most
painted sculpted guy, most painted and sculpted penis, and like,
what if somebody was just like, not my lord, my
lord's got a big old dick, got a big old thing,
like that would be weird.

Speaker 7 (02:56):
It would be very They did that with his abs.

Speaker 4 (02:58):
You know what I mean exactly, Yeah, but have you
seen that's just the opposite. A lot of Satanic figures
and sculptures were depicted with giant yeah, giant members.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
Because that just by the same rule.

Speaker 4 (03:11):
They were like, well, big penises are equated with evil
and bad, which was a genius marketing campaign that some
guy with a small dick started just to be like,
you can't date him.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
He's Satanic. Look at that twelve.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
Picture everything you need to know about Christianity. Yeah, big
dicks should be feared and can't be trusted. People were like, well,
we might as well go to Hell.

Speaker 4 (03:35):
Yeah, honestly, sign mere fun. Hell seems like a lot
more fun, right, And then the other only part of
my strochestory was Sylvia Brown because I'm obsessed. Have you
all been getting the Sylvia Brown videos and your and
your algorithm? Do you know who the hell that is?
She's this old psychic lady who used to be on

(03:55):
the Montel show. Oh my god, and like maybe Marich,
but she would just like show up and do bad
psychic predictions and people are kind of replaying them now.

Speaker 6 (04:05):
Intos there's a picture of her that looks like she
was like the this is so mean.

Speaker 7 (04:11):
That looks like she was the inspipiration for the makeup
for weapons for the.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
Old Oh my god, she's on Gladys. She is on Gladys.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
Yeah, yeah, her Wikipedia photo. Yeah, I'm getting like, also,
the brazil faces, you know how the Brazil like in
the movie are like kind of stretched out and like
weirdly proportioned.

Speaker 4 (04:32):
She's having a renaissance. She was on she has passed
unfortunately years ago, but her very.

Speaker 7 (04:38):
She's speaking us to us from the beyond the grave.

Speaker 5 (04:40):
Yes, her very let's just call it what it is.

Speaker 4 (04:43):
Her very bullshitty psychic readings are having a moment where
they're now being let like seen through the lens of
today's world and being like, wait a second, she's just
bullshitting these people who are actually looking for some sort
of comfort for something that they don't have an answer to.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
It's not like she was right about that. It's just
more like cold, I think I've.

Speaker 7 (05:03):
Been seeing this, you have, I think I have.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
Yeah, it's a big piece of internet.

Speaker 6 (05:09):
She's just grand gestures, like in very specific ways, and
you're like, this is manipulation, very obviously, because she'll just
say like, well, that's not right, or like that's not
how this is what we meant.

Speaker 4 (05:23):
You know, Someone's like I want to I don't know
who my father is and blah blah blah, blah blah,
and she just shuts her mind like you don't want
to know.

Speaker 6 (05:31):
Yeah, it's not him. You don't want to know.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
You don't want to know your father. And she's like, okay,
thank you.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
Oh I guess I don't want to know. Like, looking back,
we talk a lot about how Delmark culture is and
you know, the six seven stuff and the kids, what's
wrong with the kids. You look back at the culture
of the ass and that ship is dumb.

Speaker 8 (05:53):
So dumb.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
I'm researching Rkle for an episode of this show up okay,
and it it like I've been watching episodes of Family
Matters where like Steve Verkle has like a haunted doll
that like comes back, and it's just it's kind of
mind blowing, like it's like, wow, we've we have progressed,

(06:16):
like we it's in weird ways. Like I've talked before
about like there's this thing called the Flint effect where
they have to like zero out the IQ tests every
decade because people just keep getting smarter, and so like
a IQ test from the nineteen thirties, if you took
it today and like let's say your IQ by today's

(06:38):
standards was one hundred, you would get like a one
thirty on that because they've had to like make it
harder and harder because people. And I think it like
has to do with media and just the fact that
we're like consuming more and more complex media.

Speaker 7 (06:52):
Are allowed to read.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it's all all
those things.

Speaker 5 (06:58):
But things get like launched on a stage. I feel
like in a way that they didn't before.

Speaker 4 (07:02):
There were just like pockets of the world you didn't
see back then, but now everyone can see.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
Every dumb thing is out yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, and
and get goes viral, but shout Sylvia Brown, shout out,
how far we've come. What's something you think is underrated? Underrated?

Speaker 3 (07:21):
I have written down Paul Garaventa.

Speaker 9 (07:24):
So everyone talks about the Christie you know, yamaguchies of
the world, the snarkulos. Paul not talked about enough. So
I believe.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
In that echelon.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
First of all, I'm not laughing at the this is.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
Great.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
This is for for more casual listeners. We're talking about
the folks, the artists in era ak Yeah, not so
read discord where the songs, the the wonderful songs that
we sing at the top of the show are written.
And you know there are some heavy hitters in there. Yeah,

(08:02):
what led you to?

Speaker 3 (08:03):
What led you to evoke Paul Garaventa's good name?

Speaker 9 (08:06):
Well, I also am realizing that everybody has a pseudonym
that we just named, except Paul, who's used this full name.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
Yeah, there's a lot of people, yeah, who've got full
names on there, but you know maybe not.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
No, No, Christie Almagucci Mane is not his full name.
David Lesser.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
Is that like a I took my wife's name? Yeah, yes, yes,
please anyway, shout out, Also, loyal, loyal, Boostie's listener.

Speaker 9 (08:36):
Paul and I have created like a like a parasocial
relationship where he would play I used to have a
podcast called Blake's Takes for God's Sakes that ended, uh
not soon enough, but I would have a uh intro
song where of my name being chanted over and over
again and he would play it for his kid, and

(08:56):
his kid as a baby, would bounce along to the song,
and which was a very sweet thing to say. Posting
a video of Paul's children me, No, I'm totally kidding,
but no, he is a great dude, and shout out,
shout out.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
I wanted to see how you guys would this.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
Is the first underrated that's just been a private citizen
and they're full first and last name.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
Hey, PG, you'r you'r DZ famous.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
Now yeah, true, let's all give a shout out to
a private citizen who we like.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
Yeah, I like it.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
I'm gonna go my good friend John Edwards, Uh not
not the politician, just a TV writer who's a good
friend of mine and I'll have a lot of fun
conversations with him. Shout out to John Edwards.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
I would say, Judy Clawson, Judy Clawson, Ye big big
Judy claws. No, not not much else to say, but
big j C. Shout out to you. She was actually
my first music teacher and elementary Oh wow, miss Clawson great.
I credit me sticking through music has a Judy class us.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
Speaking of music real quick. We we got notification yesterday
from my second grader school that they are doing a
a tryout based variety show. It's like a talent show
but like not a winner, but just like if you've
got talent, you can try out for it, okay. And

(10:21):
he came home and was like, Dad, I'm going to
do the drums, which would have been great if he
played the drums. And he was like, I need to
get lessons.

Speaker 10 (10:33):
Stat like we need to start tryouts on Friday. He's like,
get me in front of a full drum kit and
was absolutely unwavering in his decision. I was like, you've
got so many You're you're so great, like you could
do so many things. Like they even said, like do

(10:54):
you know a skit or something like that. This is
like what he does.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
He's like very funny, he's like has He's like no,
like being funny and like you know, doing magic and stuff.
Those are my private skills. Drumming is really like what
I've I'm born to do, and that's I'm navigating that.
We're trying to find a drum set where we can
get him a lesson and then he's going to learn
the hard one.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
You need to get lessons yesterday Dad, Yeah, Like literally,
does he think this is like the matrix where he
could be like, yeah, hold on.

Speaker 8 (11:25):
Right out.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
He's about to find that out unless he's like some
pheno and he just like gets out there. But I
mean he's going to be uh. I think it's you know,
he's gonna he's gonna learn the lesson about Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
Does he want to keep playing drums? You think this
is the yeah?

Speaker 1 (11:42):
Start playing? Yeah. We're going to find out at his
first drum lesson, Miles Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
Yeah, Okay, Okay, this isn't for me at all.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
He played drums for three days during the summer at
School of Rock and okay, never again, showed no interest
after that until this late late breaking announcement. And now
he's like I'm going to I'm gonna he like, I
just I would love to just like get and get
a video of like what's going what his image of

(12:14):
how it's gonna go in his mind, is gonna be
because it's got to be so awesome.

Speaker 3 (12:18):
It's the beginnings of his his weird malformed male confidence.
He's like, yeah, dude, I'm gonna sucking kill it up
there and no practice cut to what the fuck? Oh shit,
I guess lot.

Speaker 9 (12:31):
Is the talent evaluators have never heard the drums before
in their entire life.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
They're also equally unfamiliar with drums like he doesn't. When
I was a kid at his age, in fact, I
wanted to be like play the electric guitar, took like
lessons was bad at it, went went to a mall
where they would make a video of you, like lip
syncing along to me and my good friend Scott Seltzer

(12:58):
and other full name shout out for a private citizen
did a video to a sweet child of mine and
looked back at the tape and did not like what
I saw. No, like this is such a fucking hell
such no, but like he doesn't even listen to rock music,
Like back then, I was like being steeped on a

(13:21):
lifetime of like MTV. Like he hasn't watched a person
drum let alone, you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (13:27):
Yeah, yeah, it's gonna be interesting. Drum set, Like, what
the fuck are these?

Speaker 1 (13:35):
What am I looking at right now? I said, a
drum kit? Yeah, what's something you think is overrated?

Speaker 8 (13:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (13:46):
So I guess my shortest answer could be sports, But
I that's I understand. There are many beautiful stories and
families and friendships and connections people have to it. Just personally,
that's not where my you know, understanding and connection to
you know, to society and humanity live.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
Absolutely.

Speaker 11 (14:07):
But I'll also say, sort of as a combo, overrated underrated,
I would say overrated is comedy that other people like.
Underrated is comedy that you yourself like, like truly, that
is what I say with respect, like whoever it is,
whoever that because and here's the thing, it's not to

(14:27):
say that there's some really popular comedians who are great
and I love and yet they're even at a certain
point like that. Probably you don't stop when you're rated
exactly the right amount. Like, you know, if if Kevin
Hart's your guy, like maybe you love seeing him in
every commercial, you know, but maybe you don't.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
And if if Kevin Hart's not your guy.

Speaker 11 (14:49):
If you're like, oh, you know, if Joe Firestones, your
your favorite comedian or Nick Vaderat or Baron Vaughn or
James a castor you know, there's so many comedian who
certainly my mom has not heard of yet, and your
mom may not have heard of yet, And so there's
I would say, that's another I guess underrated. I guess

(15:10):
I guess what I'm saying is overrated is talking about
what's overrated. I'd rather talk about what's underrated. You know, Yeah,
so talking about the underdogs.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
But I do think that's a good that's a good point.
Like I was just talking to somebody who was like
I really like, you know, I think you should leave
and the Chair company, and they were like, yeah, I've
been like trying to get into I think you should leave,
and like I just it never worked. Like I watched
every episode and I was like, why did you do that?
It's clearly like I was that show. The very first skit,

(15:44):
I was like had tears pouring down my face laughing,
and the people I was on a plane with like
thought there was something wrong with me. And like that's
so just like find that for yourself. Like if it's
not happening, don't try. And like it's not that like
somebody else is like you know, right and you just
need to like work to get yourself. That is just

(16:04):
like there's something wrong with me. That's not wrong with
you or you know what I mean, or right o me?
But you know that is just like that shape.

Speaker 11 (16:13):
If I may, my girlfriend RENI, who is that we
have a lot in common. You know, we're not the
exact same person, but we have similar taste in a
lot of things, like a lot of comedians that I love,
she loves, and vice versa. We're not the exact same
but I watched I Think you Should Leave before she did,
and I was going to share it with her, and
like the first episode we turned off because she was like.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
Too chaotic, like I can't write, I don't understand. This
is not a flavor that I need or want.

Speaker 11 (16:42):
But then I shared Detroit Ters with her, and Detroit
Ters she loved, and by the end of watching all
of Detroiter's she was like, I think I have a
greater understanding, a greater context for like what is going
on with Tim Robinson's comedy and brain And then we

(17:03):
did She's like I think I can I get it now,
and we started watching I think you should leave. And
with that context, with that framing, she loved it and
loves it and we saw friendship and we love the
chair company. So yeah, he is now basically invented a
new flavor that like when like when a baby tries
something a new food for the first time, it's always
like yeah and then yeah. You know, like when when

(17:26):
it's something is unknown, when something is mysterious, it often
can be frightening or weird or we don't get it,
but then once you're like, it doesn't mean that you
don't like it, like, it just means you might need
the Like when Stephen Sondheim wrote the musical A Funny
Thing Happens on the Way to the Forum. When it
first came out, it bombed and nobody Apparently people didn't

(17:47):
get that it was a comedy, so he went back
and wrote a new opening number called Comedy Tonight, which.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
Basically delivered the message.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
Funny, yeah that up front.

Speaker 11 (18:01):
Maybe the original title was a thing happened on the
way to the Forum, you know, because like who knows
what kind of thing the forum?

Speaker 3 (18:08):
Ancient Realme or Greece or wherever.

Speaker 11 (18:11):
Boring couldn't be common, but truly having the framing of
it being comedy led people to get it, So having
the right framing for I think you should leave led
Reny to discover it. So I'm not saying that whoever
this person is like absolutely, like I wouldn't recommend I
think you should leave to everyone, but as a gateway,

(18:31):
do try to. If you like Detroiters, try Detroiters, which
I think is really warm and sweet. And if you
then enjoy the weirdness of Detroiters, then try to dip
your toe in.

Speaker 12 (18:42):
I think maybe you shouldn't leave. Yeah, maybe that's a
that's a better ramp in. I was going to say
the sort of opposite thing to Jack's friend, which is that, like,
I feel like so many people get the advice like, oh,
you got to give it like a bunch of episodes
or whatever. Yeah, I actually think it's fine to just
tap out it.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
There's just so much good comedy, good comedy.

Speaker 3 (19:02):
Like everything.

Speaker 11 (19:04):
I have a friend who never got into Breaking Bad,
like I think Breaking Bad is. I mean, it's I
watched it myself, I watched it with friends. I watched
it with RENI. You know, we watched Better Calls Salt,
Like it's amazing art like it's funny, it's dramatic, it's
it's really weird and cool and great. And also I

(19:25):
have a friend who's like, I watched the first episode
or two, ah, not for me, and and I think
I said, or somebody else said, They're like, oh, you
got to give it, like, you know, six or seven episodes,
and he's like, I got to give it like three
movies worth of time before I can decide that this
isn't for me.

Speaker 3 (19:43):
And so I think that's completely valid.

Speaker 11 (19:46):
Like, there obviously are things that take time to like
get the tone or get you know, get into the vibe.
Like every work, every great work of art, many of
them teach you how to experience them. Like if you've
never read Dickens or you've never read you know, Moby
dick is weird, you know, but if you get like
truly yeah, any yeah, Moby Dickens, you know, anything like that.

(20:09):
And I say this not as somebody. I have not
read all of Moby Dick. I have read some Dickens. RENI,
my wonderful partner, has read like she started a project
like seven years ago to read all of like the
agreed upon great works of classic literature. Start she started
with Moby dick She then went on to Anna Karinana
and a bunch of Dickens, and like then I had

(20:30):
just had a memory of it being like in school,
like going.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
Uh no, thank you homework.

Speaker 11 (20:35):
I don't think so, but like if you don't have
to read it, like actually, you know, there's some funny
Dickens out there, and it's like just but it's a
different thing, and so like every but yeah, I guess
the main message is try something.

Speaker 3 (20:50):
If it's not for you, that's cool.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
Let's take a quick break and get into some.

Speaker 8 (20:55):
News, and we're back.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
We got it. We got to get to the news
because this is one of the bigger news stories that
we've had in a little while. The New York Times
just published some newly released emails, so the the lockdown
is over. One of the you know, narratives about why
the lockdown was happening was that they were trying to
keep Congress from meeting because then we're gonna possibly get

(21:29):
the Epstein files and Donald Trump didn't want that for
some reason, and we're not we're not sure what that
could be. Yeah, it's so it was so wild the
way he went from release the file we're gonna like
you know, release everything and like get people the information
they want. And then like the next day was like,

(21:52):
why are you guys still talking about this? You're being weird?

Speaker 8 (21:57):
He cares that.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
Guy's dead, Okay, like dead, what are you guys even
talking about? Was so just like cartoonishly guilty.

Speaker 7 (22:06):
And the Republicans operate on like every level of like
ye long terms.

Speaker 4 (22:11):
Yes, yeah, and then there were a hoax and then
that was like the thro It was like every tactic,
which of course is the biggest tell of a liar
when it's like, wait, you can't have three different excuses
you like have you have to have one story.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
Hey, we're going to release them. Two we're not going
to release them and you shouldn't care about it, and
three it's a massive hoax.

Speaker 5 (22:27):
Yeah, which is it?

Speaker 8 (22:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (22:30):
So in this case, believe it feels feels like it might.
So they released three emails from a trove of twenty
three thousand documents and they recently received these from the
Epstein estate in response to a subpoena and one email.
One email from Epstein in twenty eleven referred to Trump

(22:54):
as that dog that hasn't barked because a redacted victim
spent hours at my house with him, and he's never
once been mentioned by police chief, et cetera, et cetera.
So fore, I I just want to I want you
to realize. So this this is what the email says.
I want you to realize that dog that hasn't barked

(23:17):
is Trump. So it's like he was using code language
before in the emails to be like and don't let's
not even mention that dog that doesn't bark. So in
this email, he's writing to Gilane Jeffrey Ebstein saying, I
want you to realize that dog that hasn't barked is Trump.
Victim redemption spent hours at my house with him. He

(23:37):
has never once been mentioned police chief, et cetera. And
then I don't know, he says, I'm seventy five percent
there because I think he was edging.

Speaker 6 (23:45):
But that's like the Trump admin at that's like the
Trump admin with everything they have to be like blatantly
obviously stupid, like putting that's like the signal chat of
the email.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
Friend Rice christ So and by the way, this is
in twenty eleven, so just to like read the subtext,
and Stein was like, man, I can't believe they're not
all over Trump. He was all you know, it's just
kind of a crazy one to come back from. Like
He's like, I can't believe they're not all over him.

(24:16):
He was like with me and like did all sorts
of bad shit. This is like the ringleader saying this,
Like what would the theory of the case of a
Trump defender be At this point that he sent this
email in twenty eleven, at this point talking about like,
he's being like, huh, interesting, they haven't mentioned Trump yet.

(24:39):
He did all these crimes, and this is before he
was a powerful political figure, so he like doesn't have
anything to gain from it. He's not saying, like, man, crazy,
he's not being mentioned. He's the future president of the
United States. He's saying, Man, this guy who hosts a
reality show and did a lot of crimes with me
isn't being mentioned. That will probably happen eventually.

Speaker 6 (25:03):
Also, I don't understand why like pedaphphile lawyers in their
like forties and fifties are sending emails like high school
meet who thinks that nothing will ever be traced back
to me? You know, it's a simpler time, what like
you're a grown fucking man, and you should know how
technology is. But you're like painting the dots for like

(25:24):
connecting them for no reason.

Speaker 7 (25:25):
It's insane and people don't care.

Speaker 5 (25:29):
And that's what's really awful about the year twenty twenty five.

Speaker 3 (25:33):
People have pretty much said, well, what are you gonna do?

Speaker 4 (25:36):
And like some one famous really bad lady Azalea Banks,
who continues to be awful publicly said like, in some
people's defense, it didn't used to be creepy to be
into fourteen year old girls, like yeah, which is take
from her, unfathomable to say.

Speaker 7 (25:53):
Out loud, okay, Azalea Dershowitz, like.

Speaker 3 (26:00):
Awful, awful.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
Then there's a twenty fifteen email from Trump biographer Michael
wolft Epstein wherein I'm assuming this had to be like
translated from parcel tongue because he's just like so fucking
like kind of like just he's just like, yes, yes,
m I think you should let him hang himself. If
he says he hasn't been on the plane or to

(26:22):
the house, then that gives you a valuable pr and
political currency. You can hang him in a way that
potentially generates a positive benefit for you. Or if it
really looks like he could win this before he won
the presidency, you could save him generating a debt. Of course,
it is possible that when asked, he'll say, Jeffrey is
a great guy and has gotten a raw deal and
is a victim of political correctness, which is to be

(26:44):
outlawed in a Trump regime. So just straight up little finger, Yeah,
oh my god, just Varius being like all right, but again,
this entire email is starting from the premise that Donald
Trump is guilty of the crimes that Epstein is associated with. Yes,

(27:06):
they're just like that is a given. They're not like,
so do we how do we say this?

Speaker 4 (27:11):
You know, I know, with a single brain cell knows this.
But what's interesting is people are just so deeply in
his call. It's like what people would just be like, conspiracy, conspiracy, conspiracy,
no matter what amount of evidence is shown.

Speaker 6 (27:23):
It's like so stomach churning for those children, like those victims, Like, yes,
I can't imagine having the like the most annoying fucking
president in the world.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
You were on an island.

Speaker 6 (27:36):
Just even if nothing happened, But he was talking like
I can't imagine.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
Yeah, shocking, Yes I do. Think that this one like
cuts in a different direct. Like I as much as
they've been able to dismiss everything up to this point,
Like I think there's a reason that like he is
so dismissive and like, like it does seem to strike

(28:05):
at like a core part of like who he is.
Whereas like in the past, the things that people have
been pointing out and like he's been getting caught on
is like being a corrupt businessman, and the people who
support him are like, yeah, that's like what, like we
want him to just like get shit done no matter what.
This one though, like he got elected by people who

(28:27):
like concocted a weird deaf cult around him where he
was there to stop child predators, and like if even
like a small portion of them like let in all
of the evidence that's starting to pile up about this,
I do think it affects him a little bit differently
than some of the past stuff.

Speaker 6 (28:48):
It's still like a lot of his base is like
anti Semitic, and so it was easy for them to
be like mad at Depstein, even if they would be
hypocritical with anyone else, know what's.

Speaker 3 (28:59):
About a file.

Speaker 6 (29:00):
But now his association with someone that they're like Epstein
bad because of a combination of things. That's like, I
think that's the part, Like if he was a pedophile
not on the island, they don't. I don't think they
would care as much, which he has been, you know
what I mean. Like, I think it's the association of
that and and how that's been in the zonitgeist for

(29:24):
so long. You know, it's I feel like it's like
that's in stone now.

Speaker 4 (29:29):
Yes, it's gonna be wild to see if this has
an effect, and especially it's it's scary to see like
how how vocally anti pedo like they they hold the
whole faction of Magar or whatever you want to call
it was.

Speaker 3 (29:43):
They were very anti that, anti that, and.

Speaker 5 (29:45):
That has gone quiet. Yeah, has it gone like quiet?

Speaker 6 (29:49):
This is like like when people are seeing more of
the destruction of Gaza and then like some of the
Zionists got quiet just like pretended like it wasn't happening.

Speaker 7 (29:59):
Right, It's so crazy.

Speaker 3 (30:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
And then finally we have a twenty nineteen email, so
less than seven months before Epstein's death, like one of
Donald Trump was like we kicked him out of mar
A Lago. I had no idea what was going on,
and Epstein specifically says, you know, victim mar A Lago,
Trump said, he asked me to resign. I was never
a member there. Of course he knew about the girls
as he asked Gilane to stop, so he knew what

(30:25):
was happening. That's coming from Epstein himself.

Speaker 6 (30:30):
They're just gonna say he was like a whistleblower and
he was trying to stop it. Like they're gonna be
like like if he did he killed him, which he didn't.
It was a good thing, you know, like what they
do with every like contradiction in their minds.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
Yeah, so we talked a little bit on yesterday Yesterday's
trending about how the Republicans are trying to spin this,
but it just the details seemed pretty pretty damning. And
yet you go to Fox News and the lead story
is Red State University staff caught on hitting camera stilling
planned to high DEI, and the New York Post is

(31:06):
focusing on Jack Schlosberg, the JFK's grandson, trying to imitate
his uncle JFK Junior's enthusiasm for bicycling. So it's you know,
I mean, equally big stories, equally big story.

Speaker 4 (31:22):
What are the senators who are blocking the vote on
the release of Epstein files, Like, what are they saying
when after someone asked.

Speaker 3 (31:29):
Why did you vote?

Speaker 8 (31:30):
Know?

Speaker 3 (31:31):
What are they saying? What are they saying? Why do
you not want that released?

Speaker 5 (31:35):
Forty eight fifty two senators?

Speaker 3 (31:37):
What hell? Give me anything?

Speaker 1 (31:40):
Why?

Speaker 6 (31:41):
That's why I love those videos where people like accost
them in public and are like, answer my question, and
they're like, then the Mitch McConnell falls down or whatever,
you know, Like I think that should happen at every fucking,
every fucking second of their lives, because like they don't.

Speaker 7 (31:56):
It's our system is so corrupt.

Speaker 5 (31:58):
Our system is so deeply correct up, deeply corrupt.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
We have breaking news. Fox News has started reporting on this.
They announced that White House slams Dems bad faith. Epstein
doc Relea says demand for files intense fies. So she
is just in the context of what the White House
is saying, which is bad bad faith. It's bad faith,
Like why why are you doing things in bad faith?

Speaker 7 (32:22):
I can't believe people aren't pedophiles.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
Like we have always said, Yeah, like I tell you,
just just let me tell you that I'm not a pedophile.
And then ignore these mountains of evidence. Let's take a
quick break and then we have to get to this
reveal of an AI humanoid robot.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
It's going to be me.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
And we're back, and there's a There's a new program
at Target called the ten to four program Good Buddy,
which follows literally creepy rules enacted by Walmart and Disney.
So store employees are now required to smile if they
are within ten feet of a shopper. They also must
make eye contact with and wave to or greet the

(33:13):
customer if they're within four feet. The employee should ask
how the customer's day is going or if they need help.
And this is first of all, they should like pay
their employees a little wait, that would be one thing,
or pay them for all the time they're working. Target
warehouse workers had to take legal action to actually get

(33:34):
paid for the thirty minutes it takes them to walk
from the entrance to their workstation.

Speaker 9 (33:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
Target is bad at this, but I do just find
this this interesting. Like I've definitely been to Trader Joe's
and had the experience of like being lost in thought
and somebody like the checkout person starting a mandatory small

(34:00):
talk conversation with me and like being kind of thrown
and feeling a little weird and alienated by it. But
I just think it's an interesting like that it's a
thing that if people came down or like outside of history,
if people from other eras were able to look in,
I think it would be one of the things that

(34:20):
everyone thought was weird about our culture. Is like like
because there's I remember there was an Either Radio Labor
This American Life episode from the early days of podcasting
where they talked about the phenomenon of when they first
opened the McDonald's in Russia after the wall fell, and
everyone was like the people who worked there were just

(34:41):
like what the fuck do you mean smile at them?
Like what, like what are you talking about? And they
had like the hardest time getting them to do it,
and ultimately like gave up on it. There's also something
called smile mask syndrome, which was diagnosed in Japanese young
women who like work in the service industry where they
have to like smile so much that like this psychologist

(35:05):
was like they were still smiling while relating like really
stressful or troubling experiences, which I think is like the
movie the horror movie smile, but and like it's again
they're like this came because of Tokyo Disneyland, which opened
in nineteen eighty three, and then throughout the eighties they
found this thing of like the obligatory smile in the workplace,

(35:28):
creating this sort of psychological or like existential weirdness that
people have a hard time dealing with.

Speaker 11 (35:37):
Do you know, I I co sign everything you're saying,
and I obviously like capitalism is this is a feature
of it, you know, not a bug. This is it's
a it's a trap and it's unfortunate and would be
better if you know, people all could be more self
directed in how they want to live their life and
not need to be behold into these massive corporations. Like

(36:00):
my girlfriend used to work at a you know, a
big department store in the fine jewelry department, and you know,
like there were times when if you didn't like some people,
if you didn't sell as much as others in one month,
like if you didn't a couple months in a row,
your job was potentially at risk. But there were times
when if she sold enough in like the beginning of
the month, then the rest of the month she could

(36:21):
relax and.

Speaker 3 (36:22):
She would actually sell.

Speaker 11 (36:23):
She would be a better employee then because she was
relaxed and not you know, constantly masking and constantly you know,
on her toes to be like I gotta do this.
I got because it's ultimately, I would say, at best,
it's I mean, it's like acting, you know, like you
get a job as an actor, like well, in this scene,
maybe smile because the character is happy, you know, and

(36:46):
maybe a director could be you know, as you know,
difficult to deal with if it's a difficult director. But
I ideally, if you're making art, it's going to be.
But here's the I don't want to I don't know
that I even believe what I'm about to say, but
I want to present this as as an option. I
do think that there's like this the guys of familial

(37:09):
you know, happenstance in workplaces, like we're a family here,
you know, like hey, which they use like it's not
a family, it's your job that you agree to do
something and they agree to give you money, and like
hopefully you get along with your coworkers, you get hopefully
your boss is a kind human being, hopefully, But they
sometimes use that to say like hey, maybe put in
some extra time because we're all a family here. You

(37:31):
don't just back out on your family.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
But so with it.

Speaker 11 (37:34):
In opposition to that, I feel like there is something
nice about saying the quiet part out loud, or saying it,
saying it explicitly to be like, look, we're paying you
to be the face of this company, which involves like,
here's definitive directives, like as opposed to just being like
hey when people around, try to be cool. Try to

(37:56):
make it seem like there has to be like, look,
we're hiring you to smile when you're at this particular trajectory,
at this juncture. If hey, you're eleven feet I love that.
If you're eleven feet away from.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
People, flow nuts with your face, you know, just like
shut it down, like, don't give them a line that
will not come within ten feet of it, will just
sort of shuffle away as they get closer.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
Right, you're running a zone defense install. You're like trying
to stay in between people.

Speaker 11 (38:26):
That's like there's I think this is somebody's joke. It
might be the comedian Tony v in Boston, who's an
incredible comedian. I know he has some jokes about scientists
who study dolphins, and so this might be from his bit,
or it might just be a fact that I learned
somewhere along the way or somebody else's bit, but that
some dolphin was trained to like get litter out of

(38:48):
its enclosure. Like if there was like pieces of paper
or debris, it would pick them up and then you
would it would get fish, you know, get food for
each piece of paper that it delivered each piece of trash.
So dolphins, I don't you know, they're smart. So dolphins
would then start, after they realized the system, ripping trash
in half, they would start ripping the pieces of paper

(39:10):
and being like two pieces of fish, please, Like I
got you two garbages, so give me two foods.

Speaker 3 (39:16):
And so I feel like that.

Speaker 11 (39:18):
Also, I wonder how how Target employees are going to
gamify it. They're like, where's the ten foot mark? Like
nothing in the rule book that says I have to
move into the zone. This is a big corporate game
of I'm not touching you. They're just fucking running.

Speaker 13 (39:33):
I mean obviously, like this is just poor even if
you want to just be shackled with the strictures of capitalism,
this is just poor management. Like you shouldn't need to
define this if everything else was being managed correctly. But
I do think this this has like a really nice
letter of the law, not spirit of the law, opportunity
for some enterprising Target employees.

Speaker 11 (39:55):
Absolutely, it's you want to address the not this is
addressing the simdoms like the external like, hey, your face
isn't doing what we wanted to do.

Speaker 3 (40:04):
What do we do to make your face smile?

Speaker 1 (40:07):
Order you to smile?

Speaker 3 (40:08):
Right?

Speaker 8 (40:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (40:10):
Superducer Catherine asks if they're trying to combat the gen
Z stare, which I think, oh, yeah, the thing but
that is a big news story. We were like gen
Z look at us like they don't know what we're
talking about.

Speaker 13 (40:22):
Yeah, this is this is this is all I'm reading
here is this is a nationwide fakest smile contest for
all Target employees.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
Yeah, he's just most unnerving smile. Can I help?

Speaker 11 (40:37):
They should just hire everyone to wear a mask that
is the Target bullseye over their face. You know, Oh
my god, that's kind of like a smile at the bottom.

Speaker 3 (40:46):
I would love that, Honestly.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
I do personally just feel like like set on edge,
Like anytime someone is starting an interaction with me, like
I feel like you can tell the difference when it's
like enforced and what and it's not. And usually any
sort of forced social exchange is like you know, someone
trying to con you or sell you something or something
like that. So I just like have an immediate like

(41:10):
detection of like, yeah, you get away from it.

Speaker 13 (41:13):
But also target management, you know, maybe you could also
just not loudly trumpet how you don't support DEI or
you know, like not lock up all all your remotely
valuable things. Maybe that's why people don't like shopping at
targeting or not not the lack of fake smiles from

(41:34):
Children of the Corn.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
What do people like friends? We're going to be their friends.
That's yeah, all right, that's gonna do it for this
week's weekly Zeitgeist. Please like and review the show if
you like. The show means the world to Miles. He
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Speaker 2 (41:55):
Folks.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
I hope you're having a great weekend and I will
talk team Monday. Bye.

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