December 16, 2018 • 53 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of the
Weekly Zitgeist. Uh. These are some of our favorite segments
from this week, all edited together into one uh NonStop
infotainment last stravaganza. Uh yeah, So, without further ado, here
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is the Weekly Zeitgeist. Let's talk about chole another fast Yeah.
I mean, so, there was an article was reading in
the takeout today about how like fast food prices are
going up because like recently, I saw a commercial McDonald's
is like the six buck value meal and for six
bucks you got like a sandwich or nuggets and a
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small fries and it's like a small drink for six bucks.
I was like, back in my day, get fed with
a five dollar bill. Uh. And I was a little
bit I was like, Okay, something's going on. And then
I saw this article and it makes sense. So they
were pointing of the fact that like fast casual restaurants
like Chipotle and Shake Shock and things like that have
basically like raised our expectations as consumers for what like
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fast food should be. So like that knock on effect
is that like places like McDonald's are trying to, you know,
give you a little bit more for your money or
give you know what are I guess seen as premium
ingredients and things like that to raise its cash. They're
also pointing the fact that in two thousand eight, the
median price of a fast food burger for fifty Today
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what okay, And back to the five dollar bill argument.
You know, in the last time you could buy get
fed for a five dollar bill at a fast food
restaurant and get changed back, it's been that long since
we've moved past like a whole meal. So you're saying,
like with a drink in the side, Yeah, I think
the five dollar meal was years ago, but even just
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a good burger was, and now chicken sandwiches are going up.
But I guess that all has to do with Chipotle.
And also things as like more of these fast food
places are using like actual ingredients rather and like fake
nonsense chemicals that the prices are going up because they
have to still compete, uh, and also things like you
know wages. I guess yeah, So I mean, well, you know,
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we'll hold tough, but it's still at the end of
the day, I think as people just become more savvy
and are like, I don't think I can just be
eating this all the time. That's probably means like the
clock is starting to run out a little bit on
fast food as we know it, in the sort of
fake meal. Yeah, I mean certain things have become way
way cheaper, like electronics, like a really nice TV used
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to cost like a month's salary and now you can
get like a flat screen for a week's salary. A
week's salary. And but yeah, it seems like food because
we're having higher and higher standards for what we put
in our face. Hole. Yeah, yeah, wait, what was your
take on Chippotle though, Anny that you were you want
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to flame? I hadn't into Chipotle until a couple of
years ago, and it has been built up so much
by my friends so much. And then I went and
I was kind of, you know, man, yeah it's okay,
and I did. The reason I eventually struck it from
the list was because I'm not sure how people feel
about Chipotle anymore. But I don't I think, yeah, I
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think it was really big in places where you weren't
really eating real Mexican food, Like people it's like, oh man, Chipotle,
you get the whatever. But when I put that against
any like Toket or something or truck in l a
I'm like, no, I'm I'm good on Chipotle pretty much
every time. But their chips, Their chips are good. The
one thing I need to eat is a case of
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rito where they take they take the tortilla for the
burrito and make a they take two of those and
make a case idea, like a big circular case idea,
and then they use that to wrap your burrito in.
It makes a difference. I would, I would definitely give
it a shot. It does make a difference. Yeah, it's
oh you've never had that. No, That's what I'm saying,
Yeah I have, because that's the thing. I'm like, that
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does pique my interest as a scumbag food connoissat with
keeso and then extra cheat yeah, get it, get it
mojado style over the top. And then instead of a meat,
you just say sour cream and extra cheese. Yeah, what
do you want the middle? Sour cream cheese? Uh? And
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do you have any home luck? Back then and half
and happened? So Ecuador is really trying to send a
message to Julian Assange that it's over. Yeah, and have
not worked out between the two of them. Well, we
saw like a couple of months ago, maybe his last month.
I don't know time has I'm experiencing severe time dilation
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with the news. But we heard that the Ecuador and
embassy was like, well, first of all, man, your cat
is like not you don't clean up after your cat.
Your bathroom is a disaster. Please clean up your bathroom
or you will have to leave. Please stop and agonizing
foreign governments from our WiFi. Uh. Just plead like they
set ground rules, and I think he probably wasn't following
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them because now the president of Ecuador was basically saying,
like Lennon Moreno in a radio interview was just like, look, man,
the road is clear, as he said for Mr Assans
to take the decision to leave. Uh. And he said
that they have written assurances from Britain that he will
not be extradited to face the death penalty abroad. So
it's sort of like, hey, look, the UK says, look,
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they're not gonna extradite you if there's the death penalty
on the table. Uh, so can you go? Uh? And
it's it's not sure what this is what's going to happen,
but the accounts of like we're hearing more about what
his life is like and I don't know if he's
clearly struggling, like I want to laugh, but I don't know.
I mean if I was a guy who was cooped
up in a embassy for six years, even though I'm
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facing a slew of interesting charges in many countries. It's
like one person who has gone to interview him a
quote from him just says it seems he doesn't wash properly.
Is a direct quote, because he is the smelly kid,
and that feels like a very insulting way, Like that's
more cutting than just saying you'll do smells like fucking shit, right,
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like something like it seems he doesn't want like it
seems there's something yeah, And I love that. One of
his former aids said, Julian ate everything with his hands,
and he always wiped his fingers on his pants. I
have never seen pants as greasy as his in my
whole life. So he's wearing like grease chaps basically in
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the front. Like I would have suspected that this was
just Ecuador's way of being like, get the funk out
of here, man, like we're gonna spread rumors about your
hygiene if you don't just leave. But they've got like
journalists who went and interviewed, and they have his form
one of his closest aids, just being like, yeah, man,
I eating everything with your hands. Seems like you've I
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don't know what's going on, and it seems like some
Howard Hughes ship is going down, like he's like on
onto that place where you know, he might as well
be peeing in bottles. And well, I mean when you
hear the state of the bathroom he was in, and
he's probably somewhere in that just saying they switched the
samples over and over again. Well, one thing that John
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Kelly is certainly going to miss is freaking out about
the border and blocking trying to shut down the US
Mexican border. And the caravan is a story that we
were all kind of focused on in the run up
to the election, and it has become far less of
a story in the aftermath of the mid term elections. Uh.
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And there is some recent reporting from BuzzFeed that suggests
that there were some mysterious actors working on behalf of
like kind of getting both pumped up and getting the
numbers pumped up in the caravan, like it was manna
from heaven, rhetorical manna from heaven for them to be like, oh, finally, okay,
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let's let's drum up all the xenophobia with this thing
to get people to the polls. Now there's a report,
like I think BuzzFeed was reporting that they found that
there was a fake account that may have helped build
momentum for the migrant caravan. So they're not saying that
it actually like it began with this account, but there
was an account that was using Facebook Messenger to communicate
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with other like political figures in Honduras, uh to pretend
to be Bartolo Fuentz, who was like one of the
main activists who like is in support of the caravan,
but was basically opposing as him to sort of get
other people to like get involved with it. So it
said before the account got started, not many people seemed
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to be joining, but only after the account kicked into
gear did enthusiasm and participation spike. And the account also
claimed falsely that the caravan was being led by immigrant
rights organization called and yeah once like I think the
caravan began to swell. Uh, this group did get involved,
but they weren't like leading it. So it's a very
interesting thing, Like they're saying that this thing may have
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sort of pushed it to the tipping point to get
people moving. Now, of course they're not saying that this
had anything to do with like the socio political forces
at play, which just that there's migrant caravans like multiple
times a year, and this turned into the biggest one.
It got some help kind of gaining momentum and becoming
the biggest one ever through this impostor Facebook account. Well
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it's funny too, because when they reached out to Facebook,
they're like, hey, can you tell us anything about it?
They basically, as they say, refuse to release information about
the account, who may have set it up or what country?
Right it may have originated from, right but rhymes with Prussia,
but we're not gonna tell you in particular. Um. Yeah,
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that timing it was just I mean, again, this is
what happens with Facebook now when they're not upfront about everything. Yeah,
you think they could make things go away if they
could just begin owning up to the fact that they've
been screwing up tremendously every day. Yeah, but think about
all the ways that the left cheats by, like having
all these huge storms come about because the climate change,
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Like they're all, you know, the climate change people. It's
like the timing on that pretty convenient, that is true. Yeah.
So there was a big all right con over the
weekend convention I probably need to clarify convention. Yeah, and
it was. It featured the likes of Laura Lumer, Jack
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sob Sobak whatever and uh it, Mike Cernovitch. There's a
lot all kinds of people there. Yeah, and uh it
did not draw as well as people were expected. They
called it the American American Priority Conference in d C.
(11:05):
First of all, bad name, horrible. Yeah, and it's basically
like what c pack is, but to the right of
that even which is hard to imagine what that is
even like. And it's because it's a lot of you know,
Q and on ship people from like Gateway Punded or
formerly of Gateway Punded, just all varieties of wacky alt
right kind of talk. Yeah, there are a lot of
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bunch of goofballs there. But the photos of the thing
are so so sad, Like a lot of Will Summer
went to I guess a panel that was called why
you should subscribe to Beauty Pie was a thing. Uh
and there were maybe nine people like in this gigantic
ballroom like for at a at a hotel um and
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then even like the as like the d C police said,
they're like, oh yeah, a couple dozen, like two to
three dozen at most in each room, but a lot
of the journalists who were there like that is a
very generous estimation of the well is a hundred sixty
five bucks a ticket. And yeah, like all these people,
they're inconstant just like weird scandals like Jack pos Obak
is like constantly been caught trying to cheat on his
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wife on bumble by people, and like Cernovich is just
a weird, weird, sad dude drinks and goes like on
live streams and just says nonsense, like the brand is
fucking just failing. It's just so funny to be like
evil and your problem is that, like people don't really
like you much, kind of unpopular and yeah, sorry, it's
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funny now it was, but like that that used to
be sort of what I would have expected, But now
it seems like this is a new direction for the
AULT right where they're in somewhat of a spiral. Yeah,
and like I think they thought, well, I mean, I'm
sure at the very beginning of the administration and the
like a tail end of the election, like Okay, there's
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we got an audience here, and then they just they
made their move too late and realized, oh, nobody is
working with us anymore. And all the retweets I'm getting
is probably from people who are ridiculing me, right. And
then Anthony Scaramucci was there for some reason and apparently
like gassed up a bunch of Q and On believers,
like at an event called Coffee with Mooch, and apparently
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they're saying, uh in politically said he spoke glowingly of
the theory, the Q and On theory as a couple
from Stafford, Virginia showed their que paraphernalia. Uh. And then
apparently he told these people that he's like, you're not
gonna believe who it is to these people, yeah, and
they're like, oh my god, so you do know and
he's like, yeah, you're not gonna believe it. And then
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he goes away. And then like these journalists and political
went up from like, yo, did you just tell them
something about Q and On? And he like kind of
denied like he had said anything about it. And then
those same journalists went to the couple he was talking
to and they go, yeah, he's talking about Q. So
I mean, you know, don't take advantage of these people
with their fantasy Q. And that's so sad. But hey,
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you know it's like Harry Potter for for baby boomers. Yeah,
but like sad, sort of lost spiritually and emotionally. Tweets
and like messageboard posts from Q followers like when something
happens that makes it seem indisputable that the Q thing
was bullshit. Yeah, they're just or that Mueller is working
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against Trump rather than with Trump as they all believe. Yeah,
like my I haven't my wife so stressful. I haven't
spoken to my wife in months. Please tell me this
isn't like I've lost my family over this. Like I
really do believe Q, but I need something to help me.
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I wanted to talk real quick about this New York
Times story about location based tracking, which is something that
I was like vaguely aware was happening in the background
of my smartphone, and it's apparently a twenty one billion
dollar business. What the idea that an app will track
you or serving people? What is it they're selling the data?
They're selling your data. So apps that track your location,
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are keeping extremely close tabs on where you are. They
know where you live. They like, no, okay, you're the
only person who moves from this house to this pace,
like on a regular basis. And IBM just bought the
weather Channels app because the weather Channel is like one
of those apps that you always leave the location service on.
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Four Square remade itself as a location marketing company, but
twenty one billion dollars as an industry, Like to put
that in perspective, like billboards and outdoor marketing is a
seven point one billion dollar industry, and that's like the
highest it's ever been. So it's like, yeah, it's triple that.
And that's a thing that we all know. We all
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know we're under the influence of like billboards when we
see them, because they're just fucking right there. That's why
I love Altered Carbonix and Netflix is a joke, wrong giant.
But yeah, there's this completely invisible industry that I don't
know them well. But it was like in a social
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gathering and this person was talking about how she worked
briefly for Google and it's probably against illegal for her
to tell me this story, so no one will know
who I'm talking about She said that her job was
simply to put this device in her purse and find
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a reason to go into local business and stay in
there long enough until she felt it vibrate, and then
she would get to leave. And she never knew what
it was for what, But she quit after a short
while because it was making her so uncomfortable, because she
was like she'd have to like an optometry like go
in and be like, oh, I'm just looking at glasses,
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you know, and just have to like make up a
reason to be in there, and then mid sentence at
beefs and she's just like, oh, I'm I don't change
my mind. And she said she thinks that it was
like surveying the space, that it was like measuring, like
sending out little signals and like creating sort of like
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a map of the store. And then that data was
going to be sold, So Google was going to sell
that data back to the businesses and go we can track,
because she's like it was something to do with what
you're talking about. Where they were mapping the store, and
then that data could be used in conjunction with people's
phones so they could find out how long does someone
stay at the front of the store. How long did
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they stay in the back of the store. I mean
we're talking like splitting wears down and that's what this,
that's what this is, this rack for five minutes, so
that rack is very successful. Whereas yeah, that that that
display was was affected. You get high engagement in the
left quad lower left quadruple, and companies are buying this stuff.
I mean, it's crazy. Personally, I'm just pissed that I
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don't have access to that and from nation, because I
bet it's fascinating, like all sorts of interesting ship about
like how humans move in groups, like the way that
they lay at grocery stores, like they lay it out
this way because that's like the direction that humans circle.
And also Cal's circle in that direction, like we all
we prefer to go counterclockwise. But then there was a
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change because Whole Foods, to like make themselves seem different,
changed it up so that their direction was in a
different direction, and now everybody wants to be like Whole
food so they changed it to the opposite directions. Just weird.
McDonald's they design mean, there's a million examples of this
and McDonald's, but they design their their boothts to become
uncomfortable after twenty minutes, right, right, They don't want you
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to stay in there long enough to go This is disgusting.
Its true, Like read and yellow are the proven colors
that like make you uncomfortable and you want to get
out area and their stressors so like it's like they
they researched everything. Red is also a stimulant, so it
like causes it makes you more likely to make impulse decisions. Yeah,
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but then after twenty minutes, you're like, wait, why are
the floors so slippery? Fat just in the air yet. Uh,
We're gonna take a quick break. We'll be right back
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edward back. Let's talk about the most googled foods of
two thousand eighteen, and we have brought in our special
Keto correspondent to produce her on a hosnie. Listen to
that energy from that Keto dio vibrating right now. She's hovering.
But the reason we bring her in is because when
you look at the most googled food of this year,
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five of the fucking entries are Keto recipes, so Keto pancakes,
Keto cheesecake, Keto chili, Keto brownies, amongst the other Cheeto
cookies and Cheeto be better. But it's actually Keto cookies. Huh.
But yeah, I'm like, it just shows you the power,
the strength of the Keto. I've been swept crazy Keto
wave to I'm not, but my roommate was Keto for
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a while and I just threw osmosis and started eating
a lot less bread. Yeah. Yeah, Now I now I
know what's keto and wood isn't, and I know what
it is. I'm not Keto. You know, I didn't have
a need or desire to lose quite a large amount
of weight. But yeah, it's making its way through all
our brains. And my dad was on three different kinds
of it this year. I tried it for three three
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three dos three And yeah, So you just said that
you had made Keto pancakes this weekend? Did you not
made Keto pancakes this weekend? I've made Keto cheesecake, which
I brought in and you guys all pretended to like it.
I did know they were delicious. Yeah, on this podcast,
it's I've made Keto cookie, chocolate chip, Keto cookies. I've
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made keto Um. I use almond flour nice. I also
use like coconut flour. So this is like no carbs.
Is that the Keto philosophy. It's all fat, very little sugar. Yeah,
very very moderate protein, low car But that Keto cheesecake
was sweet? What was what was so I use for
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the Keto cheesecake? I used the Swerve sugar, which is
like fake sugar. It's it's it's the from Taking the World.
You gotta go buy, You gotta go spend most of
your life savings on this stuff because it's very expensive
and they only sell it at like health food stores. Right, Yeah,
I feel like Keto is I feel like this is
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a good time. I need a race ducks a loaf
for Keto bread. Yeah, low car bread. Look, it's not great,
but it does the job of you thinking you're eating bread.
It's just you need something to put things. You toast
your Keto bagels here in the office, And sometimes I
smell them and I'm like yeah, and you're like it's
someone using white out. The other things on this list
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were very interesting too. I feel like we're not treating
ourselves very well as a species because most of these
are like when have we ever? Right? But these are
like it's okay, So like romane lettuce. You know that
was because of the because that's not what everybody needed
a romane resturant, Right, how do I cook romanet? CBD gummies?
So we're treating ourselves. Well, they're everybody loved. But this
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was a year for CBD C by ABC CBD. Uh.
The gummy thing is cool. I like that. There's just
a lot of vigano. I always felt a little weird
about eating gelatine. I'm not vegan, but like gelatine is
a little rather it's a bone goo I rather not um.
And now there's vegan gummies everywhere, which I think is great.
Oh yeah, we've made a lot of advances and vegan
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sciences and vegan edibles. Pop who want to get the
that CBD wave And then other ones Neco wafers. I'm
surprised because we talked about how that ship should have
just been thrown on the fucking trash heap. So bad,
that's what That's what I'm talking about. And then Goacher
Jang is pretty good but underrated. Neco waivers, underrated, Nila wafers.
Ni wafers are like currency in my preschool I remember
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as the kid banana. Yeah, but the thing would go.
I wonder if that had to do. It's the Korean
spice paste, like a foundation for all, like Korean spicy
pepper paste. Yeah, and that was mentioned in that woman's
really tired obituary about her potato salad or whatever the
fun remember the woman she was like, millennials are ruining mayonnaise.
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That's what it was the like, and now people want
goacher jang or whatever. But I think this was just
a hot year for Korean fusion. Hold year. Yeah, mayonnaise
is number five hundred and seventies ships. Oh boy, unicorn
cake was the number one searched thing. Which that's instagram baby. Yeah,
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it's just because that's like it's cake with a horn
on it. Oh no, it's rainbow cake, right. But it's
like but it was all about the visual of it
rather than like this was a thing to eat. Everyone
is obsessed with, like you can make this little cake
look like unicorniform. Yeah. People want to eat things that
look good and don't taste good. I find Yeah, all
those all those like pastry instagrams. I'm like, you know,
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this doesn't taste it's kind of dry. Because you've got
to make a real you have to make a thick cake,
has to be very rigid, has to be very rigid.
I'm not a fond fan either. Nope, nope, nope, nope,
nope eating. Yeah, okay, so I see the inside of
the unicorn cake looks like a unicorn frap from Starbucks.
Oh god, sure, it looks like cash six. It's like blue,
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it's like coin candy cous blue and pink white. Yeah.
So it was thing basically, super producer on a Hosnie
the way to break the Internet come up with a
keto unicorn cake. Oh shit, there we go. We're on
the same page. And you can imagine you just need
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to get like you could make frosting from like Swerve
confection or Sugar Holy with food coloring, and then you
can make the cake out of either almond flour or
coconut flour, use the same recipe as a cake, but
you just replace those certain items with the replaceable with nuts. Guys.
Her eyes are closed as she says this, and she
was just running her fingers. And that's actually once you
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do and start making enough Keto things, you immediately can
see how to make the key of every It's like
the gift of the woman seeing the math in the
air just like ketoing. She's going into a Keto fugue.
And I wanted to take a quick moment to look
at the Democratic field because specifically the Bedo verse Bernie
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debate that is now sort of bubbling to the surface. Uh,
some of the people on the Biden it's Bidal betto Burnie.
I think people just have a Biden is like a
fixed like a known quantity, and then like mayonnaise, right,
and then Betto is and then he is miracle whip right. Well,
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so you know, I heard somebody talking about how Bernie
gets like harshly criticized for you know, not having very
woke politics on race, and I started doing research into that,
and it seems like people don't really know where to
come down on Bernie and how he feels about race. Well,
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he's had gaffs, right Like so during on Super Tuesday
when he got blown out by Hillary, like, it was
almost like there was no effort to reach out to
black women who are if you're going to be a
Democratic candidate, you need that, And there was very effort
to court that voting luck and he said said things
here and there, But you know, as criminal justice things
do address those kinds of things. He's just not a
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very vocally like. I think the issue is he doesn't
say enough out vocally that people go, oh, I see
him vibing with people of color. Now, in the last year,
he's done a lot too, I think change that. But
I think a lot of the criticism comes from I
think sort of the lack of interest and from Hillary
to from just trying to better understand the black vote.
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Kind of the two the two ends of the spectrum
on you know, white Democrats trying to appeal to voters
of color. Is on the one hand, you know, he's
got Bernie who just doesn't really talk about it, but
he talks about policies that affect class, which is very influenced,
like race and class are are deeply intertwined. And then
on the other end end of the spectrum, you've got
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Hillard Clinton telling you that she's Robella. You know, which
does that help? I have hot sauce in my bag swag,
so I think about hot sauce in what kind Texas pizza?
Come on, get that ship out. It's not crystal. I
had slaves in Arkansas? Yeah, did you? Yeah? I mean
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so Sanders in two thousand sixteen said something about like
how we need to move beyond identity politics to focus
on class, which I get very very nervous. Yeah, exactly.
It's a big it's a big debate right now. Yeah,
because people are talking about identity politics like it's meaningless,
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which I think is upsetting. But at the same time,
identity politics are not the whole sum of all politics.
I feel like it's used by certain white like liberals
to suggest that, like it's basically their discomfort with focusing
on racial issues. Do you have to talk about being
black all the time? But meanwhile, like the entire platform
(28:57):
is identity politics, like yeah, and just in the reverse,
it's identifying yourself as white and identifying people of color
and the LGBTQ community as other. And yeah, that is
identity politics, but it doesn't get identified as such. Right.
Identity politics as terms are for people with marginalized identities
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who won't shut up about it, right, exactly, better definition, right. Yeah.
So when you looked at I think what that move
On poll, that Straw poll is the thing that got
everybody talking about sort of like, oh, let's according to
these people, it's just about people who support for members
if they ended up becoming, you know, political candidates. Polling,
the best of the Democrat percent was someone else don't know,
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slash other percent better fourteen point nine, Biden thirteen point one,
Bernie ten percent, Camlall Harris six point four percent, Elizabeth
Warren and then on and on on and Corey Booker
at the very bottom at two point six. Yeah. I mean,
good and good luck to Corey. Uh So, I'm very
curious to know what's going on because we know Betto
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has been talking to Obama, He's been talking to Al Sharpton,
uh and Andrew Gillim. The Andrew Gillim thing is very
interesting to me that they're talking, what they're talking about,
what he is trying to do. If he's trying to
position himself to be more aggressively courting people of color
as part of his voting block or whatever potential cabinet,
I mean, yeah, that would be that would be interesting.
(30:23):
But yeah, I don't know. It's uh well, we we
will see. I just know that Joe Biden, come on now,
unless he just has a radical change where he's like
completely progressive and like updates his politics to got the
rose emoji in his display name, right, which I I
just don't see happening, Like I think he is the
(30:46):
Joe Biden needs a pepper in his displine, too spicy.
He's the choice for people who are like, we just
need to do Obama again, the exact same thing. Remember Obama,
that was great, right, let's do it again, but without
the identity politics, right, yeah, yeah, exactly. It's a very
you know old. Oh god, the thought of Joe Biden
(31:07):
running is just making me feel heavy, heavy and board, yeah,
and also worried because I feel like enough people don't
who don't know, who aren't engaged enough politically, will be like,
I don't see what the problem is with Joe. Remember
when when Parks and rec had Joe Biden on a
bunch of episodes, and like, the whole thing with Amy
Poehler's character was that she was like way into Joe Biden.
(31:27):
Even then, I was like, this isn't working for me, Like,
he does not have a lot of charm as a
as a states I don't know the way he's intoxicating
to white women, middle a white women. Remember that photo
of him with the He's got the biker's girlfriend on
his lap and he's like whispering in her ear, and
the two biker dudes are like this motherfucker, and she's
like slick, motherfuck. Yeah, and I'm like, Joe Biden white women. Yeah,
(31:54):
but I just don't see I don't see the appeal.
I probably couldn't pick him out of a lineup. They
had him on the show, and I was like, I
wonder if this is the real Joe Biden. His smile
will blind you. Them ships are two, the teeth are
so white, so white, so large. Yeah, he is central
casting president like from a nineties movie, Like, yeah, just
what a president looks like in a nineties movie. He's
(32:16):
not even an action movie president, yeah, yeah, exactly, He's
like a movie about journalism president. Yeah, and that president
always ends up being the bad guy, like even though
comes up the whole time. Yeah, I think like President
from the RoboCop universe, maybe, yeah, but aspires confidence in
the populace, but then he's secretly building a robot cop.
(32:36):
Yeah exactly. I feel like there's sort of frustration from
all sides, like people on the far left and like
democratic socialists are concerned that Bernie is being criticized for
his racial views. And then people who are like more
center left are concerned that people on the far left
(32:56):
are criticizing Bett. Oh, and I think we need to
just be okay with everybody being criticized until we have
a candidates. Why do people wanna perfect? I mean, I
guess why do people want a perfect candidate? The question?
But why why do people keep expecting a perfect candidate
(33:18):
in this system we have? Yeah, you're not coming out
of here fucking unscathed. It's a really interesting time, I
think now and people are starting to talk about class
now and and a big part of that is Bernie.
Bernie was like really mainstreamed talking about the working class
again in a way that the Democrats really haven't for
a long time, and they certainly haven't explicitly for a
(33:38):
long time talked about raising up the working class, even
using using the terms working class families. But where does
the Democrats money come from? It doesn't come from working
class families. Maybe it did fifty years ago, but it
doesn't anymore because their policies have not really helped working
class people. I mean, everybody knows that the rich have
gotten richer and the poor have gotten poorer. In the
class gap has just wide and wide and widened. So
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anything that either party has been trying to do to
help the working class is obviously not fucking working. So
but now we're coming up on this weird sort of
framing um and and I do believe this is like
it is being framed as this in order to weaken it. Uh,
this idea that class uh, class politics and a class
based analysis of politics and economy are at odds with
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a race based analysis or with a gender based analysis,
the identity politics analysis, when in fact it's just another
factor and it's it's all intersectional. Yeah, absolutely, it's not
an either or thing, but they're being pitted against each other.
And this is something that honestly Republicans have been doing
since the thirties to you know, destroy any kind of
unionization of marginalized groups in the working class. And it's
(34:47):
just kind of the same thing over again. But it's
it's very weird to see, Well, the smoke bombing isn't
is slowly starting to not work as much as they
used to, like where they would obscure be like okay,
now y'all fight, yeah, man, we we both fucking poor. Yeah,
And it's been like so many years of them doing
this and we're like, wait a second, that didn't work,
and that didn't work, and that didn't work, and like
the only thing that worked was really radical ship that
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then people got murdered by the FBI for when it
got too far. You know, they were like, okay, we'll
give we'll civil rights. Okay, fine, Ship the people died, Fine,
you can vote now, white people, yeah, no, no, no, no, no,
time to kill Dr Martin Luther King Jr. Like, that's
the line, is poor people teaming up. And that was
the thing that you know, made him very unpopular in
(35:32):
the lead up to his death with white America was
the idea of him that's that's too far, you know,
that's that's crossing the line. Yeah. And I think the media,
which black people, okay, poor people no, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah.
And I think the media is somewhat complicit in this.
I think, like we we've talked before about how the
Dean scream was somewhat yeah, that that was man that
(35:58):
was favorite sort of fabricated by the media to be
like he did scream like that, but it was because
he had no It sounded crazy because he had a
noise canceling microphone and so it sounded crazy because it
was crazy. Who cares, you know what I mean, that's
the thing they but they made it a point. I
don't think we even have to, you know, explain why
he did it. Nobody. Yeah, all of these things are
(36:22):
like really inflated. Yes, And I do think that the
center media, the mainstream media takes takes it upon themselves
to protect capitalism, capitalism with this idea of electability, like well,
Bernie Sanders just isn't electable. Yeah, like people are too
stupid to vote in their own interests. I wonder, I
(36:44):
wonder when the left left media will turn on Alexandriacazio Cortez. Though.
What's the left media? I mean like the MSNBC's of
the world where they're sort of like you know, but
not not like in the way where they're full on trying.
I mean they buy into like the really stupid, vapid
headlines of like oh she messed up this thing or whatever.
But you know, like on Fox, they're in full on
(37:06):
like terror mon I'm talking about when they like they
tear her the funk down, Like now they're just started
being like, well she seems like a spirited young they're
more dismissive right now. I think it's gonna be when
she starts implementing policy, really and also if she speaks
it more about about Palestine. I think that's really gonna
be because that's been what she's been torn down for
the most on you know, mainstream media. That's Hugh's liberal
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um is, you know, being being called anti Semitic for
for opposing Israel, right right. I think the one good
thing with her that will make it difficult for them
to tear down is she's got a Trump like unflappable
nous on Twitter, Like she's just like, you're not fucking
knocking me off my message. She's like, I'm a twenty
nine year old Twitter literate millennial getting my mention to
(37:50):
see what happened around and find you want to quote
tweet me poorly, I'm going to do it. Yes, I'm
trying to thread this ship. The fallout from yesterday's immediately
famous Oval Office meeting between Trump, Nancy Pelosi, and Chuck
Schumer continues, and apparently the President, you know, he went
(38:11):
in thinking he was going to ambush them, and he
came out apparently just throwing his papers to the floor
and complaining that he got ambushed. Um, it's my favorite ship.
But because he was, he was like bragging out I
got the votes, and Nancy like, we'll pull up with
the votes. Then you don't got shit. Well awoke, that's
(38:31):
what I ship back down? You pee sitting down now.
So basically what happened exactly. Yeah, So one thing was
like he threw his ship, then he thank you exactly
spit on your face. Then he basically went on to
complain about how that was such an embarrassment. He was
(38:52):
really piste off that Chuck Schumer wasn't even looking at
him while he was just making jokes to the press,
because Schumer was just sort of like going, what about
this asshole that really got to fucking Trump to the
point that even like once the press left, like okay,
let's have our meeting, Like he couldn't he couldn't recover,
and he was like, yeah, I know what I'm being Yeah, no, seriously,
and uh. One of the funniest things is like he
(39:14):
got really mad at Mike Pence. He felt that Mike
Pence when he powered down in front of everybody like that,
he was like, you burned me, Pence. I think he's right, though,
I think this is in keeping with my theory that
something happened with the revelations, either that we know about
or stuff we don't quite know yet because of all
(39:35):
the redactions, but with the Muller investigation in the Southern
District of New York investigation, like last week's revelations, that
the Pence camp seems to have cooled. Um and Yeah,
Mike Pence definitely like the memes around what was going
through his mind. We're we're a lot of fun, but
also kind of unavoidable. When you look at his performance,
(39:57):
he just either choked or was like I don't want anything.
He almost looked like a spouse of like an alcoholic
who's like at dinner and the spouse is drunk and
they're just like, thing, what do you mean I can't
take left over some as buffet? I paid for it.
I'm gonna take you home. Where's my food? We already ate?
And then he where is it? He was literally closing
(40:19):
his eyes like fucking Luke Skywalker in the last Star
Wars movie, trying to like actually project himself into another place,
like please give me the funk out of here, just
visualizing Hawaii somewhere else. Yeah, and then he said they
set me up. But the funny thing is in the
Daily Beasts they report how Trump initially this was supposed
to be a no cameras behind closed door thing and
(40:40):
at the zero hour was like, you know what, let's
bring the press in because I think I'm gonna press
him about the wall and see how they handle it,
and then got his big wind coming up, just flipped
like you fucking idiot, you you poor poor idiots. You
can't say no to those cameras. He lives for that,
and then just gets looks like a total ass, like
he's supposed to be Mr. Reality TV and he just
(41:02):
showed his ass so bad and somehow then did the
worst thing you can do is be like, yeah, I'll
own the shut down. Yeah. At the same time, so
I did read an analysis of this on The Daily Beast,
which obviously is not a conservative place, where they somebody
was saying that they thought Trump actually won that in
his like weird version of reality, not just like he
(41:25):
believes he wanted, but the people who he appeals to
would think he wanted. And the idea is that while
Nancy and Chuck we're trying to they were like, let's
talk behind closed doors because political decorum. He was like, no,
let's do it right here, and that does seem like,
I don't know, political decorum is popular with the mainstream media,
(41:46):
but for you know, the people who vote for Trump
and even just regular people, I feel like urging somebody
to do, like have the conversation behind closed doors as
an immediate like red flag. Right. Well, I think the
hit isn't necessarily like I don't think he gains from
it being out in the open. I think the hit
he takes is from openly owning a shutdown if it
(42:07):
happens over the wall, right, And like that's the part
that isn't a good look because we're used to him
just having a hissy fit in public. Trump, I think
like throughout the campaign has always been like, yeah, I'll
make Mexico pay for the wall. Yeah, I'll do it. Yeah.
You know, he's always that like, yeah, I'm gonna fucking
do it. I'm gonna do the thing is unthinkable. And
now that you know, he got sort of confronted about
the shutdown, he was like, yeah, fuck it, you know,
(42:29):
I don't care. And then all his constituency was like,
we care. Yeah. At the same time, he's fighting for
a thing his constituents want or think they want in
the wall, and he's willing to do an unpopular thing
to get it with the shutdown. Now, I think the
place that the l is really going to come is
when the shutdown actually happens. If he really does force
(42:49):
it and then it's a complete fucking disaster and he
still doesn't get his wall, then yeah, that's not going
to be a good look for him. Well, there was
a thing, I don't know if how real it was,
but there was some article saying that the wall was
just merely a mnemonic device for him to talk about immigration.
For sure, that it wasn't means but okay, but yeah,
(43:10):
that's what they needed it as like a concept, as
a nod to help the candidate. Remember metaphoric synic key
New York. It's yeah, thank you so much. It is
a synectic. Yes, immigration, Well you just got an English
major on your show, but oly sh it um so
then yeah. And then essentially he just took it literally
and then his melted brain just turned it into the
(43:32):
thing that it's like, say, the wall so they know immigration.
He's like, no, it's a literal wall that I want it, okay, whatever.
But then but the other thing is like you see
it's like he's like someone's like, you gotta ask for
her hand in marriage, and he's literally like, I want
your hand. I have the hand. What I do now, Steve,
I have the hand? No? No, no, Jesus Jesus. Okay.
(43:54):
First of all, yeah, well, the Senator Kennedy from Louisiana,
John Kennedy, he was like he was basically saying, like
if I were playing poker with the President and he
was across the table for me and he had demonstrated
the face that he demonstrated that meeting, and I wasn't
holding good cards, I'd fold because I don't think he's bluffing.
I think he's prepared to shut down a really long
way to say I don't think he's bluffing. Yeah, but
(44:14):
it's just sort of like you're starting to see also
the weird sort of the sycophant comments steam in about
like they're like, yeah, he's digging in or whatever. It's like,
I don't think it's as clear cut a win as
the media has portrayed, or at least people who pay
attention to the media. I don't even I don't think
it's a Don't get me wrong. I don't think this
is a policy win in any way. This is merely
(44:35):
just like a ship talking at lunch break wind. Whole
campaign was I'm going to build a wall. And now
he's like, I'm building a wall, and all his constituents
are like great, and then every everyone voting him is
like good. And he's like, I'm building a wall. And
they're like, we're going to shut down the government, and
he was like, I don't care. I'm building a wall.
You know. He's like, you're going to shut down the government.
He's like, I'm going to shut down the just repeat said,
(44:56):
and taxpayers are going to shut down the government down. Next,
I was not paying for it, no, but I think
apparently after the camera's left, he insisted that Mexico was
still paying for it. To Chuck and Nancy, Yeah, I'm
excited to see how Mexico's new president is going to
deal with this, because he's am low baby Manuel Lopez
Opera door. I don't think, yeah, he's he might just
(45:16):
be like I don't know, I don't know her. He
is like I don't know her. He's he's pretty lefty. Yeah,
he's He's like, we're not paying for this. All right,
we're gonna take another quick break. We'll be right back,
and we're back. Uh, did we want to talk about
(45:37):
the adderall Stiffer in chief? Well, this is a great
story because it's the intersection of things we all know
about politics and terrible open mic comedy. Yeah, and this
comedian quote unquote named Noel Castler uh took to the
stage in New York, I think, and basically just spilled
the t on like his time working on The Apprentice,
(45:59):
and it was like, I give a funk about my nda, yes, uh,
and let's just listen to some of the nuggets he drops. Yeah.
It's like he knew he wanted to like get some
publicity out of having this like crazy information, and rather
than doing like an interview with ABC, he was like,
I'm gonna launch my stand up career because he didn't
(46:20):
know how stand up worked. And here are the results.
He's a speed freak. He crushes up his adderall and
he snits it because he can't read, so he gets
really nervous when he has to read cute guards. I'm
not kidding, this is true. I had a twenty four
page nd A nondisclosure agreement. I didn't know that he
was become a president. Now it's no way, dumb mass.
I'm telling you everything I know. So he and he
(46:42):
crushes up these pills. That's why he sniffing when you
see him in debates, and when you see him reading,
it's why he's tweeting. You know, he's like he's out
of his mind. It makes sense if you think about it,
met the amphetamine was invented by the Nazis keep the
fighter pilots up all night on bombing runs, right, so
it makes sense that Trump would use it to hate
tweeting it self. Sounded right. Four am. So we missed
(47:05):
a couple of awful jokes. I'm glad super producer Nick
cut that out because there's some lame ass jokes about
his preference for women. But yeah, he also spilled some
tea about when he was doing the Miss teen US
A competition Teen USA. Mind you, he was inspecting their
teeth like the fucking Westminster Dog Show and then being like,
(47:27):
if you want to win me, be in the penthouse
and people were apparently going up, and the people who
went up were performing well in the competition. Yeah, I
don't know what. The people would laugh at that story
and he would be like, no, I'm serious, which is
not usually a good stand up strategy, but it is
a fucking crazy story that this guy apparently had excess. Yeah,
(47:49):
working on the Apprentice saw that he was snoring. I mean,
you know, who knows if this is real, but it
he was sniffing so goddamn much during those debates where
you're like, yeah, that's when everyone was like going on,
and that is definitely something that happens you start getting well,
I mean if you don't want yeah, I meant doing
(48:10):
that below, But I think that weren't you saying like
in the eighties though, he was like into doctor prescribed
pet or something that was like that the doctor what
the doctor said that Dayeah, there was a doctor who
prescribed him all sorts of pet pills and like feel
good pills, and he uh yeah, he has like a
medical record history that I think people are trying to
(48:31):
pull from his doctor's office that either the Secret Service
came in and like pulled it or something or like
got rid of it. But it was that dude who
like looked a shady porn director. Yeah, yeah, who does
not look like like like the doctor that your weed
prescription exactly checks, he checks your fucking blood pressure for
(48:53):
two seconds. Yeah, yeah, you're good. Okay, you might want
to get your blood blood pressure. Yeah. I forget the
specific details, but I know that he was like using
basically medical speed during the eighties and then like the
trail kind of went cold. And I mean this is
there's a type of celebrity who you know, uses their
influence and celebrity to you know, get doctors to give
(49:15):
them the good ship. Any person who grew up on
the well, a lot of like teetotaling celebrities like Elvis
never took illegal drugs. He just died of a drug
overdose from drugs that like his homide doctor just prescribed
dry or Dr Pepper. Yeah, I think. I mean that's
the same kind of mentality a lot of people who
(49:36):
get even into other prescription drugs do because they're like, well,
it's not a drug, and it's easy to just in
your mind be like, oh, I'm not a drug addict
taking these things. And that's never gotten anyone in trouble
except for America right now, so we'll see, you know.
And it's also like for sure he's on speed when
he tweets yeah, like the middle of the night, Like,
how else do you think that happens? Yeah, I thought
(49:59):
he a man with incredibly poor nutrition, Like of course
he would be asleep, Like do you know what I mean?
Like he doesn't eat well enough to have energy. He
doesn't exercise, he doesn't believe in it. He believes that
exercise wears out your machinery. Right, So if you don't
believe in any of those things, I can't imagine you
have enough energy to run the country. So of course
(50:20):
you're going to be a speed at it. Well, there's
also that thing he said that he only needs like
what three hours of sleep at night. I wonder if
that's a lie he created, because he's just covered up,
whacked out all night. Only three hours of sleep exactly.
And I need a screwdriver and some old TVs, a
lot of poor a lot of poorn. And there's also
the dude who he wanted to give the entire Veterans
(50:43):
Affairs department too, who ended up having to pull himself
from contentions. Doctor Ronnie I think was the name something.
One of the things that he got in trouble for
was being like a doctor feel goods, and a lot
of people were like that. It's funny because there are
a lot of people on other admitted strange as. We
were like, yeah, well you know, yeah, take those fights.
(51:04):
Something to go sleeping, ne something to stay up. No,
I don't doubt that. So I gotta say doctor feel
Good always sounds amazing as a job. He's not a
bad guy, he's making good. Call it something more nefariously. Yeah,
the killer of Prince right, yeah, the doctor yeah killed
(51:26):
the King of pop and Prince was same. No, it's
not the same doctor, but doctor doctors, doctors who just
didn't know how to say no, enabler doctors. Yeah, all right,
a murder, yeah exactly, doctor Murder earliest feel Good. Yeah,
(51:46):
it's got We'll workshop that. I think we I think
we got it. Okay, let's print to move forward from here.
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Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of the
Weekly Zitgeist. Uh. These are some of our favorite segments
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is the Weekly Zeitgeist. Let's talk about chole another fast Yeah.
I mean, so, there was an article was reading in
the takeout today about how like fast food prices are
going up because like recently, I saw a commercial McDonald's
is like the six buck value meal and for six
bucks you got like a sandwich or nuggets and a
(00:42):
small fries and it's like a small drink for six bucks.
I was like, back in my day, get fed with
a five dollar bill. Uh. And I was a little
bit I was like, Okay, something's going on. And then
I saw this article and it makes sense. So they
were pointing of the fact that like fast casual restaurants
like Chipotle and Shake Shock and things like that have
basically like raised our expectations as consumers for what like
(01:05):
fast food should be. So like that knock on effect
is that like places like McDonald's are trying to, you know,
give you a little bit more for your money or
give you know what are I guess seen as premium
ingredients and things like that to raise its cash. They're
also pointing the fact that in two thousand eight, the
median price of a fast food burger for fifty Today
(01:26):
what okay, And back to the five dollar bill argument.
You know, in the last time you could buy get
fed for a five dollar bill at a fast food
restaurant and get changed back, it's been that long since
we've moved past like a whole meal. So you're saying,
like with a drink in the side, Yeah, I think
the five dollar meal was years ago, but even just
(01:47):
a good burger was, and now chicken sandwiches are going up.
But I guess that all has to do with Chipotle.
And also things as like more of these fast food
places are using like actual ingredients rather and like fake
nonsense chemicals that the prices are going up because they
have to still compete, uh, and also things like you
know wages. I guess yeah, So I mean, well, you know,
(02:13):
we'll hold tough, but it's still at the end of
the day, I think as people just become more savvy
and are like, I don't think I can just be
eating this all the time. That's probably means like the
clock is starting to run out a little bit on
fast food as we know it, in the sort of
fake meal. Yeah, I mean certain things have become way
way cheaper, like electronics, like a really nice TV used
(02:35):
to cost like a month's salary and now you can
get like a flat screen for a week's salary. A
week's salary. And but yeah, it seems like food because
we're having higher and higher standards for what we put
in our face. Hole. Yeah, yeah, wait, what was your
take on Chippotle though, Anny that you were you want
(02:57):
to flame? I hadn't into Chipotle until a couple of
years ago, and it has been built up so much
by my friends so much. And then I went and
I was kind of, you know, man, yeah it's okay,
and I did. The reason I eventually struck it from
the list was because I'm not sure how people feel
about Chipotle anymore. But I don't I think, yeah, I
(03:21):
think it was really big in places where you weren't
really eating real Mexican food, Like people it's like, oh man, Chipotle,
you get the whatever. But when I put that against
any like Toket or something or truck in l a
I'm like, no, I'm I'm good on Chipotle pretty much
every time. But their chips, Their chips are good. The
one thing I need to eat is a case of
(03:42):
rito where they take they take the tortilla for the
burrito and make a they take two of those and
make a case idea, like a big circular case idea,
and then they use that to wrap your burrito in.
It makes a difference. I would, I would definitely give
it a shot. It does make a difference. Yeah, it's
oh you've never had that. No, That's what I'm saying,
Yeah I have, because that's the thing. I'm like, that
(04:04):
does pique my interest as a scumbag food connoissat with
keeso and then extra cheat yeah, get it, get it
mojado style over the top. And then instead of a meat,
you just say sour cream and extra cheese. Yeah, what
do you want the middle? Sour cream cheese? Uh? And
(04:25):
do you have any home luck? Back then and half
and happened? So Ecuador is really trying to send a
message to Julian Assange that it's over. Yeah, and have
not worked out between the two of them. Well, we
saw like a couple of months ago, maybe his last month.
I don't know time has I'm experiencing severe time dilation
(04:46):
with the news. But we heard that the Ecuador and
embassy was like, well, first of all, man, your cat
is like not you don't clean up after your cat.
Your bathroom is a disaster. Please clean up your bathroom
or you will have to leave. Please stop and agonizing
foreign governments from our WiFi. Uh. Just plead like they
set ground rules, and I think he probably wasn't following
(05:06):
them because now the president of Ecuador was basically saying,
like Lennon Moreno in a radio interview was just like, look, man,
the road is clear, as he said for Mr Assans
to take the decision to leave. Uh. And he said
that they have written assurances from Britain that he will
not be extradited to face the death penalty abroad. So
it's sort of like, hey, look, the UK says, look,
(05:28):
they're not gonna extradite you if there's the death penalty
on the table. Uh, so can you go? Uh? And
it's it's not sure what this is what's going to happen,
but the accounts of like we're hearing more about what
his life is like and I don't know if he's
clearly struggling, like I want to laugh, but I don't know.
I mean if I was a guy who was cooped
up in a embassy for six years, even though I'm
(05:50):
facing a slew of interesting charges in many countries. It's
like one person who has gone to interview him a
quote from him just says it seems he doesn't wash properly.
Is a direct quote, because he is the smelly kid,
and that feels like a very insulting way, Like that's
more cutting than just saying you'll do smells like fucking shit, right,
(06:13):
like something like it seems he doesn't want like it
seems there's something yeah, And I love that. One of
his former aids said, Julian ate everything with his hands,
and he always wiped his fingers on his pants. I
have never seen pants as greasy as his in my
whole life. So he's wearing like grease chaps basically in
(06:36):
the front. Like I would have suspected that this was
just Ecuador's way of being like, get the funk out
of here, man, like we're gonna spread rumors about your
hygiene if you don't just leave. But they've got like
journalists who went and interviewed, and they have his form
one of his closest aids, just being like, yeah, man,
I eating everything with your hands. Seems like you've I
(07:00):
don't know what's going on, and it seems like some
Howard Hughes ship is going down, like he's like on
onto that place where you know, he might as well
be peeing in bottles. And well, I mean when you
hear the state of the bathroom he was in, and
he's probably somewhere in that just saying they switched the
samples over and over again. Well, one thing that John
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Kelly is certainly going to miss is freaking out about
the border and blocking trying to shut down the US
Mexican border. And the caravan is a story that we
were all kind of focused on in the run up
to the election, and it has become far less of
a story in the aftermath of the mid term elections. Uh.
(07:47):
And there is some recent reporting from BuzzFeed that suggests
that there were some mysterious actors working on behalf of
like kind of getting both pumped up and getting the
numbers pumped up in the caravan, like it was manna
from heaven, rhetorical manna from heaven for them to be like, oh, finally, okay,
(08:09):
let's let's drum up all the xenophobia with this thing
to get people to the polls. Now there's a report,
like I think BuzzFeed was reporting that they found that
there was a fake account that may have helped build
momentum for the migrant caravan. So they're not saying that
it actually like it began with this account, but there
was an account that was using Facebook Messenger to communicate
(08:30):
with other like political figures in Honduras, uh to pretend
to be Bartolo Fuentz, who was like one of the
main activists who like is in support of the caravan,
but was basically opposing as him to sort of get
other people to like get involved with it. So it
said before the account got started, not many people seemed
(08:51):
to be joining, but only after the account kicked into
gear did enthusiasm and participation spike. And the account also
claimed falsely that the caravan was being led by immigrant
rights organization called and yeah once like I think the
caravan began to swell. Uh, this group did get involved,
but they weren't like leading it. So it's a very
interesting thing, Like they're saying that this thing may have
(09:13):
sort of pushed it to the tipping point to get
people moving. Now, of course they're not saying that this
had anything to do with like the socio political forces
at play, which just that there's migrant caravans like multiple
times a year, and this turned into the biggest one.
It got some help kind of gaining momentum and becoming
the biggest one ever through this impostor Facebook account. Well
(09:37):
it's funny too, because when they reached out to Facebook,
they're like, hey, can you tell us anything about it?
They basically, as they say, refuse to release information about
the account, who may have set it up or what country?
Right it may have originated from, right but rhymes with Prussia,
but we're not gonna tell you in particular. Um. Yeah,
(09:59):
that timing it was just I mean, again, this is
what happens with Facebook now when they're not upfront about everything. Yeah,
you think they could make things go away if they
could just begin owning up to the fact that they've
been screwing up tremendously every day. Yeah, but think about
all the ways that the left cheats by, like having
all these huge storms come about because the climate change,
(10:21):
Like they're all, you know, the climate change people. It's
like the timing on that pretty convenient, that is true. Yeah.
So there was a big all right con over the
weekend convention I probably need to clarify convention. Yeah, and
it was. It featured the likes of Laura Lumer, Jack
(10:44):
sob Sobak whatever and uh it, Mike Cernovitch. There's a
lot all kinds of people there. Yeah, and uh it
did not draw as well as people were expected. They
called it the American American Priority Conference in d C.
(11:05):
First of all, bad name, horrible. Yeah, and it's basically
like what c pack is, but to the right of
that even which is hard to imagine what that is
even like. And it's because it's a lot of you know,
Q and on ship people from like Gateway Punded or
formerly of Gateway Punded, just all varieties of wacky alt
right kind of talk. Yeah, there are a lot of
(11:28):
bunch of goofballs there. But the photos of the thing
are so so sad, Like a lot of Will Summer
went to I guess a panel that was called why
you should subscribe to Beauty Pie was a thing. Uh
and there were maybe nine people like in this gigantic
ballroom like for at a at a hotel um and
(11:48):
then even like the as like the d C police said,
they're like, oh yeah, a couple dozen, like two to
three dozen at most in each room, but a lot
of the journalists who were there like that is a
very generous estimation of the well is a hundred sixty
five bucks a ticket. And yeah, like all these people,
they're inconstant just like weird scandals like Jack pos Obak
is like constantly been caught trying to cheat on his
(12:11):
wife on bumble by people, and like Cernovich is just
a weird, weird, sad dude drinks and goes like on
live streams and just says nonsense, like the brand is
fucking just failing. It's just so funny to be like
evil and your problem is that, like people don't really
like you much, kind of unpopular and yeah, sorry, it's
(12:32):
funny now it was, but like that that used to
be sort of what I would have expected, But now
it seems like this is a new direction for the
AULT right where they're in somewhat of a spiral. Yeah,
and like I think they thought, well, I mean, I'm
sure at the very beginning of the administration and the
like a tail end of the election, like Okay, there's
(12:55):
we got an audience here, and then they just they
made their move too late and realized, oh, nobody is
working with us anymore. And all the retweets I'm getting
is probably from people who are ridiculing me, right. And
then Anthony Scaramucci was there for some reason and apparently
like gassed up a bunch of Q and On believers,
like at an event called Coffee with Mooch, and apparently
(13:18):
they're saying, uh in politically said he spoke glowingly of
the theory, the Q and On theory as a couple
from Stafford, Virginia showed their que paraphernalia. Uh. And then
apparently he told these people that he's like, you're not
gonna believe who it is to these people, yeah, and
they're like, oh my god, so you do know and
he's like, yeah, you're not gonna believe it. And then
(13:40):
he goes away. And then like these journalists and political
went up from like, yo, did you just tell them
something about Q and On? And he like kind of
denied like he had said anything about it. And then
those same journalists went to the couple he was talking
to and they go, yeah, he's talking about Q. So
I mean, you know, don't take advantage of these people
with their fantasy Q. And that's so sad. But hey,
(14:03):
you know it's like Harry Potter for for baby boomers. Yeah,
but like sad, sort of lost spiritually and emotionally. Tweets
and like messageboard posts from Q followers like when something
happens that makes it seem indisputable that the Q thing
was bullshit. Yeah, they're just or that Mueller is working
(14:26):
against Trump rather than with Trump as they all believe. Yeah,
like my I haven't my wife so stressful. I haven't
spoken to my wife in months. Please tell me this
isn't like I've lost my family over this. Like I
really do believe Q, but I need something to help me.
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I wanted to talk real quick about this New York
Times story about location based tracking, which is something that
I was like vaguely aware was happening in the background
of my smartphone, and it's apparently a twenty one billion
dollar business. What the idea that an app will track
you or serving people? What is it they're selling the data?
They're selling your data. So apps that track your location,
(15:08):
are keeping extremely close tabs on where you are. They
know where you live. They like, no, okay, you're the
only person who moves from this house to this pace,
like on a regular basis. And IBM just bought the
weather Channels app because the weather Channel is like one
of those apps that you always leave the location service on.
(15:28):
Four Square remade itself as a location marketing company, but
twenty one billion dollars as an industry, Like to put
that in perspective, like billboards and outdoor marketing is a
seven point one billion dollar industry, and that's like the
highest it's ever been. So it's like, yeah, it's triple that.
And that's a thing that we all know. We all
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know we're under the influence of like billboards when we
see them, because they're just fucking right there. That's why
I love Altered Carbonix and Netflix is a joke, wrong giant.
But yeah, there's this completely invisible industry that I don't
know them well. But it was like in a social
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gathering and this person was talking about how she worked
briefly for Google and it's probably against illegal for her
to tell me this story, so no one will know
who I'm talking about She said that her job was
simply to put this device in her purse and find
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a reason to go into local business and stay in
there long enough until she felt it vibrate, and then
she would get to leave. And she never knew what
it was for what, But she quit after a short
while because it was making her so uncomfortable, because she
was like she'd have to like an optometry like go
in and be like, oh, I'm just looking at glasses,
(16:54):
you know, and just have to like make up a
reason to be in there, and then mid sentence at
beefs and she's just like, oh, I'm I don't change
my mind. And she said she thinks that it was
like surveying the space, that it was like measuring, like
sending out little signals and like creating sort of like
(17:15):
a map of the store. And then that data was
going to be sold, So Google was going to sell
that data back to the businesses and go we can track,
because she's like it was something to do with what
you're talking about. Where they were mapping the store, and
then that data could be used in conjunction with people's
phones so they could find out how long does someone
stay at the front of the store. How long did
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they stay in the back of the store. I mean
we're talking like splitting wears down and that's what this,
that's what this is, this rack for five minutes, so
that rack is very successful. Whereas yeah, that that that
display was was affected. You get high engagement in the
left quad lower left quadruple, and companies are buying this stuff.
I mean, it's crazy. Personally, I'm just pissed that I
(17:58):
don't have access to that and from nation, because I
bet it's fascinating, like all sorts of interesting ship about
like how humans move in groups, like the way that
they lay at grocery stores, like they lay it out
this way because that's like the direction that humans circle.
And also Cal's circle in that direction, like we all
we prefer to go counterclockwise. But then there was a
(18:19):
change because Whole Foods, to like make themselves seem different,
changed it up so that their direction was in a
different direction, and now everybody wants to be like Whole
food so they changed it to the opposite directions. Just weird.
McDonald's they design mean, there's a million examples of this
and McDonald's, but they design their their boothts to become
uncomfortable after twenty minutes, right, right, They don't want you
(18:44):
to stay in there long enough to go This is disgusting.
Its true, Like read and yellow are the proven colors
that like make you uncomfortable and you want to get
out area and their stressors so like it's like they
they researched everything. Red is also a stimulant, so it
like causes it makes you more likely to make impulse decisions. Yeah,
(19:08):
but then after twenty minutes, you're like, wait, why are
the floors so slippery? Fat just in the air yet. Uh,
We're gonna take a quick break. We'll be right back
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edward back. Let's talk about the most googled foods of
two thousand eighteen, and we have brought in our special
Keto correspondent to produce her on a hosnie. Listen to
that energy from that Keto dio vibrating right now. She's hovering.
But the reason we bring her in is because when
you look at the most googled food of this year,
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five of the fucking entries are Keto recipes, so Keto pancakes,
Keto cheesecake, Keto chili, Keto brownies, amongst the other Cheeto
cookies and Cheeto be better. But it's actually Keto cookies. Huh.
But yeah, I'm like, it just shows you the power,
the strength of the Keto. I've been swept crazy Keto
wave to I'm not, but my roommate was Keto for
(20:12):
a while and I just threw osmosis and started eating
a lot less bread. Yeah. Yeah, Now I now I
know what's keto and wood isn't, and I know what
it is. I'm not Keto. You know, I didn't have
a need or desire to lose quite a large amount
of weight. But yeah, it's making its way through all
our brains. And my dad was on three different kinds
of it this year. I tried it for three three
(20:34):
three dos three And yeah, So you just said that
you had made Keto pancakes this weekend? Did you not
made Keto pancakes this weekend? I've made Keto cheesecake, which
I brought in and you guys all pretended to like it.
I did know they were delicious. Yeah, on this podcast,
it's I've made Keto cookie, chocolate chip, Keto cookies. I've
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made keto Um. I use almond flour nice. I also
use like coconut flour. So this is like no carbs.
Is that the Keto philosophy. It's all fat, very little sugar. Yeah,
very very moderate protein, low car But that Keto cheesecake
was sweet? What was what was so I use for
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the Keto cheesecake? I used the Swerve sugar, which is
like fake sugar. It's it's it's the from Taking the World.
You gotta go buy, You gotta go spend most of
your life savings on this stuff because it's very expensive
and they only sell it at like health food stores. Right, Yeah,
I feel like Keto is I feel like this is
(21:47):
a good time. I need a race ducks a loaf
for Keto bread. Yeah, low car bread. Look, it's not great,
but it does the job of you thinking you're eating bread.
It's just you need something to put things. You toast
your Keto bagels here in the office, And sometimes I
smell them and I'm like yeah, and you're like it's
someone using white out. The other things on this list
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were very interesting too. I feel like we're not treating
ourselves very well as a species because most of these
are like when have we ever? Right? But these are
like it's okay, So like romane lettuce. You know that
was because of the because that's not what everybody needed
a romane resturant, Right, how do I cook romanet? CBD gummies?
So we're treating ourselves. Well, they're everybody loved. But this
(22:34):
was a year for CBD C by ABC CBD. Uh.
The gummy thing is cool. I like that. There's just
a lot of vigano. I always felt a little weird
about eating gelatine. I'm not vegan, but like gelatine is
a little rather it's a bone goo I rather not um.
And now there's vegan gummies everywhere, which I think is great.
Oh yeah, we've made a lot of advances and vegan
(22:57):
sciences and vegan edibles. Pop who want to get the
that CBD wave And then other ones Neco wafers. I'm
surprised because we talked about how that ship should have
just been thrown on the fucking trash heap. So bad,
that's what That's what I'm talking about. And then Goacher
Jang is pretty good but underrated. Neco waivers, underrated, Nila wafers.
Ni wafers are like currency in my preschool I remember
(23:20):
as the kid banana. Yeah, but the thing would go.
I wonder if that had to do. It's the Korean
spice paste, like a foundation for all, like Korean spicy
pepper paste. Yeah, and that was mentioned in that woman's
really tired obituary about her potato salad or whatever the
fun remember the woman she was like, millennials are ruining mayonnaise.
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That's what it was the like, and now people want
goacher jang or whatever. But I think this was just
a hot year for Korean fusion. Hold year. Yeah, mayonnaise
is number five hundred and seventies ships. Oh boy, unicorn
cake was the number one searched thing. Which that's instagram baby. Yeah,
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it's just because that's like it's cake with a horn
on it. Oh no, it's rainbow cake, right. But it's
like but it was all about the visual of it
rather than like this was a thing to eat. Everyone
is obsessed with, like you can make this little cake
look like unicorniform. Yeah. People want to eat things that
look good and don't taste good. I find Yeah, all
those all those like pastry instagrams. I'm like, you know,
(24:26):
this doesn't taste it's kind of dry. Because you've got
to make a real you have to make a thick cake,
has to be very rigid, has to be very rigid.
I'm not a fond fan either. Nope, nope, nope, nope,
nope eating. Yeah, okay, so I see the inside of
the unicorn cake looks like a unicorn frap from Starbucks.
Oh god, sure, it looks like cash six. It's like blue,
(24:49):
it's like coin candy cous blue and pink white. Yeah.
So it was thing basically, super producer on a Hosnie
the way to break the Internet come up with a
keto unicorn cake. Oh shit, there we go. We're on
the same page. And you can imagine you just need
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to get like you could make frosting from like Swerve
confection or Sugar Holy with food coloring, and then you
can make the cake out of either almond flour or
coconut flour, use the same recipe as a cake, but
you just replace those certain items with the replaceable with nuts. Guys.
Her eyes are closed as she says this, and she
was just running her fingers. And that's actually once you
(25:35):
do and start making enough Keto things, you immediately can
see how to make the key of every It's like
the gift of the woman seeing the math in the
air just like ketoing. She's going into a Keto fugue.
And I wanted to take a quick moment to look
at the Democratic field because specifically the Bedo verse Bernie
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debate that is now sort of bubbling to the surface. Uh,
some of the people on the Biden it's Bidal betto Burnie.
I think people just have a Biden is like a
fixed like a known quantity, and then like mayonnaise, right,
and then Betto is and then he is miracle whip right. Well,
(26:25):
so you know, I heard somebody talking about how Bernie
gets like harshly criticized for you know, not having very
woke politics on race, and I started doing research into that,
and it seems like people don't really know where to
come down on Bernie and how he feels about race. Well,
(26:47):
he's had gaffs, right Like so during on Super Tuesday
when he got blown out by Hillary, like, it was
almost like there was no effort to reach out to
black women who are if you're going to be a
Democratic candidate, you need that, And there was very effort
to court that voting luck and he said said things
here and there, But you know, as criminal justice things
do address those kinds of things. He's just not a
(27:08):
very vocally like. I think the issue is he doesn't
say enough out vocally that people go, oh, I see
him vibing with people of color. Now, in the last year,
he's done a lot too, I think change that. But
I think a lot of the criticism comes from I
think sort of the lack of interest and from Hillary
to from just trying to better understand the black vote.
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Kind of the two the two ends of the spectrum
on you know, white Democrats trying to appeal to voters
of color. Is on the one hand, you know, he's
got Bernie who just doesn't really talk about it, but
he talks about policies that affect class, which is very influenced,
like race and class are are deeply intertwined. And then
on the other end end of the spectrum, you've got
(27:49):
Hillard Clinton telling you that she's Robella. You know, which
does that help? I have hot sauce in my bag swag,
so I think about hot sauce in what kind Texas pizza?
Come on, get that ship out. It's not crystal. I
had slaves in Arkansas? Yeah, did you? Yeah? I mean
(28:12):
so Sanders in two thousand sixteen said something about like
how we need to move beyond identity politics to focus
on class, which I get very very nervous. Yeah, exactly.
It's a big it's a big debate right now. Yeah,
because people are talking about identity politics like it's meaningless,
(28:33):
which I think is upsetting. But at the same time,
identity politics are not the whole sum of all politics.
I feel like it's used by certain white like liberals
to suggest that, like it's basically their discomfort with focusing
on racial issues. Do you have to talk about being
black all the time? But meanwhile, like the entire platform
(28:57):
is identity politics, like yeah, and just in the reverse,
it's identifying yourself as white and identifying people of color
and the LGBTQ community as other. And yeah, that is
identity politics, but it doesn't get identified as such. Right.
Identity politics as terms are for people with marginalized identities
(29:19):
who won't shut up about it, right, exactly, better definition, right. Yeah.
So when you looked at I think what that move
On poll, that Straw poll is the thing that got
everybody talking about sort of like, oh, let's according to
these people, it's just about people who support for members
if they ended up becoming, you know, political candidates. Polling,
the best of the Democrat percent was someone else don't know,
(29:41):
slash other percent better fourteen point nine, Biden thirteen point one,
Bernie ten percent, Camlall Harris six point four percent, Elizabeth
Warren and then on and on on and Corey Booker
at the very bottom at two point six. Yeah. I mean,
good and good luck to Corey. Uh So, I'm very
curious to know what's going on because we know Betto
(30:02):
has been talking to Obama, He's been talking to Al Sharpton,
uh and Andrew Gillim. The Andrew Gillim thing is very
interesting to me that they're talking, what they're talking about,
what he is trying to do. If he's trying to
position himself to be more aggressively courting people of color
as part of his voting block or whatever potential cabinet,
I mean, yeah, that would be that would be interesting.
(30:23):
But yeah, I don't know. It's uh well, we we
will see. I just know that Joe Biden, come on now,
unless he just has a radical change where he's like
completely progressive and like updates his politics to got the
rose emoji in his display name, right, which I I
just don't see happening, Like I think he is the
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Joe Biden needs a pepper in his displine, too spicy.
He's the choice for people who are like, we just
need to do Obama again, the exact same thing. Remember Obama,
that was great, right, let's do it again, but without
the identity politics, right, yeah, yeah, exactly. It's a very
you know old. Oh god, the thought of Joe Biden
(31:07):
running is just making me feel heavy, heavy and board, yeah,
and also worried because I feel like enough people don't
who don't know, who aren't engaged enough politically, will be like,
I don't see what the problem is with Joe. Remember
when when Parks and rec had Joe Biden on a
bunch of episodes, and like, the whole thing with Amy
Poehler's character was that she was like way into Joe Biden.
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Even then, I was like, this isn't working for me, Like,
he does not have a lot of charm as a
as a states I don't know the way he's intoxicating
to white women, middle a white women. Remember that photo
of him with the He's got the biker's girlfriend on
his lap and he's like whispering in her ear, and
the two biker dudes are like this motherfucker, and she's
like slick, motherfuck. Yeah, and I'm like, Joe Biden white women. Yeah,
(31:54):
but I just don't see I don't see the appeal.
I probably couldn't pick him out of a lineup. They
had him on the show, and I was like, I
wonder if this is the real Joe Biden. His smile
will blind you. Them ships are two, the teeth are
so white, so white, so large. Yeah, he is central
casting president like from a nineties movie, Like, yeah, just
what a president looks like in a nineties movie. He's
(32:16):
not even an action movie president, yeah, yeah, exactly, He's
like a movie about journalism president. Yeah, and that president
always ends up being the bad guy, like even though
comes up the whole time. Yeah, I think like President
from the RoboCop universe, maybe, yeah, but aspires confidence in
the populace, but then he's secretly building a robot cop.
(32:36):
Yeah exactly. I feel like there's sort of frustration from
all sides, like people on the far left and like
democratic socialists are concerned that Bernie is being criticized for
his racial views. And then people who are like more
center left are concerned that people on the far left
(32:56):
are criticizing Bett. Oh, and I think we need to
just be okay with everybody being criticized until we have
a candidates. Why do people wanna perfect? I mean, I
guess why do people want a perfect candidate? The question?
But why why do people keep expecting a perfect candidate
(33:18):
in this system we have? Yeah, you're not coming out
of here fucking unscathed. It's a really interesting time, I
think now and people are starting to talk about class
now and and a big part of that is Bernie.
Bernie was like really mainstreamed talking about the working class
again in a way that the Democrats really haven't for
a long time, and they certainly haven't explicitly for a
(33:38):
long time talked about raising up the working class, even
using using the terms working class families. But where does
the Democrats money come from? It doesn't come from working
class families. Maybe it did fifty years ago, but it
doesn't anymore because their policies have not really helped working
class people. I mean, everybody knows that the rich have
gotten richer and the poor have gotten poorer. In the
class gap has just wide and wide and widened. So
(34:01):
anything that either party has been trying to do to
help the working class is obviously not fucking working. So
but now we're coming up on this weird sort of
framing um and and I do believe this is like
it is being framed as this in order to weaken it. Uh,
this idea that class uh, class politics and a class
based analysis of politics and economy are at odds with
(34:24):
a race based analysis or with a gender based analysis,
the identity politics analysis, when in fact it's just another
factor and it's it's all intersectional. Yeah, absolutely, it's not
an either or thing, but they're being pitted against each other.
And this is something that honestly Republicans have been doing
since the thirties to you know, destroy any kind of
unionization of marginalized groups in the working class. And it's
(34:47):
just kind of the same thing over again. But it's
it's very weird to see, Well, the smoke bombing isn't
is slowly starting to not work as much as they
used to, like where they would obscure be like okay,
now y'all fight, yeah, man, we we both fucking poor. Yeah,
And it's been like so many years of them doing
this and we're like, wait a second, that didn't work,
and that didn't work, and that didn't work, and like
the only thing that worked was really radical ship that
(35:09):
then people got murdered by the FBI for when it
got too far. You know, they were like, okay, we'll
give we'll civil rights. Okay, fine, Ship the people died, Fine,
you can vote now, white people, yeah, no, no, no, no, no,
time to kill Dr Martin Luther King Jr. Like, that's
the line, is poor people teaming up. And that was
the thing that you know, made him very unpopular in
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the lead up to his death with white America was
the idea of him that's that's too far, you know,
that's that's crossing the line. Yeah. And I think the media,
which black people, okay, poor people no, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah.
And I think the media is somewhat complicit in this.
I think, like we we've talked before about how the
Dean scream was somewhat yeah, that that was man that
(35:58):
was favorite sort of fabricated by the media to be
like he did scream like that, but it was because
he had no It sounded crazy because he had a
noise canceling microphone and so it sounded crazy because it
was crazy. Who cares, you know what I mean, that's
the thing they but they made it a point. I
don't think we even have to, you know, explain why
he did it. Nobody. Yeah, all of these things are
(36:22):
like really inflated. Yes, And I do think that the
center media, the mainstream media takes takes it upon themselves
to protect capitalism, capitalism with this idea of electability, like well,
Bernie Sanders just isn't electable. Yeah, like people are too
stupid to vote in their own interests. I wonder, I
(36:44):
wonder when the left left media will turn on Alexandriacazio Cortez. Though.
What's the left media? I mean like the MSNBC's of
the world where they're sort of like you know, but
not not like in the way where they're full on trying.
I mean they buy into like the really stupid, vapid
headlines of like oh she messed up this thing or whatever.
But you know, like on Fox, they're in full on
(37:06):
like terror mon I'm talking about when they like they
tear her the funk down, Like now they're just started
being like, well she seems like a spirited young they're
more dismissive right now. I think it's gonna be when
she starts implementing policy, really and also if she speaks
it more about about Palestine. I think that's really gonna
be because that's been what she's been torn down for
the most on you know, mainstream media. That's Hugh's liberal
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um is, you know, being being called anti Semitic for
for opposing Israel, right right. I think the one good
thing with her that will make it difficult for them
to tear down is she's got a Trump like unflappable
nous on Twitter, Like she's just like, you're not fucking
knocking me off my message. She's like, I'm a twenty
nine year old Twitter literate millennial getting my mention to
(37:50):
see what happened around and find you want to quote
tweet me poorly, I'm going to do it. Yes, I'm
trying to thread this ship. The fallout from yesterday's immediately
famous Oval Office meeting between Trump, Nancy Pelosi, and Chuck
Schumer continues, and apparently the President, you know, he went
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in thinking he was going to ambush them, and he
came out apparently just throwing his papers to the floor
and complaining that he got ambushed. Um, it's my favorite ship.
But because he was, he was like bragging out I
got the votes, and Nancy like, we'll pull up with
the votes. Then you don't got shit. Well awoke, that's
(38:31):
what I ship back down? You pee sitting down now.
So basically what happened exactly. Yeah, So one thing was
like he threw his ship, then he thank you exactly
spit on your face. Then he basically went on to
complain about how that was such an embarrassment. He was
(38:52):
really piste off that Chuck Schumer wasn't even looking at
him while he was just making jokes to the press,
because Schumer was just sort of like going, what about
this asshole that really got to fucking Trump to the
point that even like once the press left, like okay,
let's have our meeting, Like he couldn't he couldn't recover,
and he was like, yeah, I know what I'm being Yeah, no, seriously,
and uh. One of the funniest things is like he
(39:14):
got really mad at Mike Pence. He felt that Mike
Pence when he powered down in front of everybody like that,
he was like, you burned me, Pence. I think he's right, though,
I think this is in keeping with my theory that
something happened with the revelations, either that we know about
or stuff we don't quite know yet because of all
(39:35):
the redactions, but with the Muller investigation in the Southern
District of New York investigation, like last week's revelations, that
the Pence camp seems to have cooled. Um and Yeah,
Mike Pence definitely like the memes around what was going
through his mind. We're we're a lot of fun, but
also kind of unavoidable. When you look at his performance,
(39:57):
he just either choked or was like I don't want anything.
He almost looked like a spouse of like an alcoholic
who's like at dinner and the spouse is drunk and
they're just like, thing, what do you mean I can't
take left over some as buffet? I paid for it.
I'm gonna take you home. Where's my food? We already ate?
And then he where is it? He was literally closing
(40:19):
his eyes like fucking Luke Skywalker in the last Star
Wars movie, trying to like actually project himself into another place,
like please give me the funk out of here, just
visualizing Hawaii somewhere else. Yeah, and then he said they
set me up. But the funny thing is in the
Daily Beasts they report how Trump initially this was supposed
to be a no cameras behind closed door thing and
(40:40):
at the zero hour was like, you know what, let's
bring the press in because I think I'm gonna press
him about the wall and see how they handle it,
and then got his big wind coming up, just flipped
like you fucking idiot, you you poor poor idiots. You
can't say no to those cameras. He lives for that,
and then just gets looks like a total ass, like
he's supposed to be Mr. Reality TV and he just
(41:02):
showed his ass so bad and somehow then did the
worst thing you can do is be like, yeah, I'll
own the shut down. Yeah. At the same time, so
I did read an analysis of this on The Daily Beast,
which obviously is not a conservative place, where they somebody
was saying that they thought Trump actually won that in
his like weird version of reality, not just like he
(41:25):
believes he wanted, but the people who he appeals to
would think he wanted. And the idea is that while
Nancy and Chuck we're trying to they were like, let's
talk behind closed doors because political decorum. He was like, no,
let's do it right here, and that does seem like,
I don't know, political decorum is popular with the mainstream media,
(41:46):
but for you know, the people who vote for Trump
and even just regular people, I feel like urging somebody
to do, like have the conversation behind closed doors as
an immediate like red flag. Right. Well, I think the
hit isn't necessarily like I don't think he gains from
it being out in the open. I think the hit
he takes is from openly owning a shutdown if it
(42:07):
happens over the wall, right, And like that's the part
that isn't a good look because we're used to him
just having a hissy fit in public. Trump, I think
like throughout the campaign has always been like, yeah, I'll
make Mexico pay for the wall. Yeah, I'll do it. Yeah.
You know, he's always that like, yeah, I'm gonna fucking
do it. I'm gonna do the thing is unthinkable. And
now that you know, he got sort of confronted about
the shutdown, he was like, yeah, fuck it, you know,
(42:29):
I don't care. And then all his constituency was like,
we care. Yeah. At the same time, he's fighting for
a thing his constituents want or think they want in
the wall, and he's willing to do an unpopular thing
to get it with the shutdown. Now, I think the
place that the l is really going to come is
when the shutdown actually happens. If he really does force
(42:49):
it and then it's a complete fucking disaster and he
still doesn't get his wall, then yeah, that's not going
to be a good look for him. Well, there was
a thing, I don't know if how real it was,
but there was some article saying that the wall was
just merely a mnemonic device for him to talk about immigration.
For sure, that it wasn't means but okay, but yeah,
(43:10):
that's what they needed it as like a concept, as
a nod to help the candidate. Remember metaphoric synic key
New York. It's yeah, thank you so much. It is
a synectic. Yes, immigration, Well you just got an English
major on your show, but oly sh it um so
then yeah. And then essentially he just took it literally
and then his melted brain just turned it into the
(43:32):
thing that it's like, say, the wall so they know immigration.
He's like, no, it's a literal wall that I want it, okay, whatever.
But then but the other thing is like you see
it's like he's like someone's like, you gotta ask for
her hand in marriage, and he's literally like, I want
your hand. I have the hand. What I do now, Steve,
I have the hand? No? No, no, Jesus Jesus. Okay.
(43:54):
First of all, yeah, well, the Senator Kennedy from Louisiana,
John Kennedy, he was like he was basically saying, like
if I were playing poker with the President and he
was across the table for me and he had demonstrated
the face that he demonstrated that meeting, and I wasn't
holding good cards, I'd fold because I don't think he's bluffing.
I think he's prepared to shut down a really long
way to say I don't think he's bluffing. Yeah, but
(44:14):
it's just sort of like you're starting to see also
the weird sort of the sycophant comments steam in about
like they're like, yeah, he's digging in or whatever. It's like,
I don't think it's as clear cut a win as
the media has portrayed, or at least people who pay
attention to the media. I don't even I don't think
it's a Don't get me wrong. I don't think this
is a policy win in any way. This is merely
(44:35):
just like a ship talking at lunch break wind. Whole
campaign was I'm going to build a wall. And now
he's like, I'm building a wall, and all his constituents
are like great, and then every everyone voting him is
like good. And he's like, I'm building a wall. And
they're like, we're going to shut down the government, and
he was like, I don't care. I'm building a wall.
You know. He's like, you're going to shut down the government.
He's like, I'm going to shut down the just repeat said,
(44:56):
and taxpayers are going to shut down the government down. Next,
I was not paying for it, no, but I think
apparently after the camera's left, he insisted that Mexico was
still paying for it. To Chuck and Nancy, Yeah, I'm
excited to see how Mexico's new president is going to
deal with this, because he's am low baby Manuel Lopez
Opera door. I don't think, yeah, he's he might just
(45:16):
be like I don't know, I don't know her. He
is like I don't know her. He's he's pretty lefty. Yeah,
he's He's like, we're not paying for this. All right,
we're gonna take another quick break. We'll be right back,
and we're back. Uh, did we want to talk about
(45:37):
the adderall Stiffer in chief? Well, this is a great
story because it's the intersection of things we all know
about politics and terrible open mic comedy. Yeah, and this
comedian quote unquote named Noel Castler uh took to the
stage in New York, I think, and basically just spilled
the t on like his time working on The Apprentice,
(45:59):
and it was like, I give a funk about my nda, yes, uh,
and let's just listen to some of the nuggets he drops. Yeah.
It's like he knew he wanted to like get some
publicity out of having this like crazy information, and rather
than doing like an interview with ABC, he was like,
I'm gonna launch my stand up career because he didn't
(46:20):
know how stand up worked. And here are the results.
He's a speed freak. He crushes up his adderall and
he snits it because he can't read, so he gets
really nervous when he has to read cute guards. I'm
not kidding, this is true. I had a twenty four
page nd A nondisclosure agreement. I didn't know that he
was become a president. Now it's no way, dumb mass.
I'm telling you everything I know. So he and he
(46:42):
crushes up these pills. That's why he sniffing when you
see him in debates, and when you see him reading,
it's why he's tweeting. You know, he's like he's out
of his mind. It makes sense if you think about it,
met the amphetamine was invented by the Nazis keep the
fighter pilots up all night on bombing runs, right, so
it makes sense that Trump would use it to hate
tweeting it self. Sounded right. Four am. So we missed
(47:05):
a couple of awful jokes. I'm glad super producer Nick
cut that out because there's some lame ass jokes about
his preference for women. But yeah, he also spilled some
tea about when he was doing the Miss teen US
A competition Teen USA. Mind you, he was inspecting their
teeth like the fucking Westminster Dog Show and then being like,
(47:27):
if you want to win me, be in the penthouse
and people were apparently going up, and the people who
went up were performing well in the competition. Yeah, I
don't know what. The people would laugh at that story
and he would be like, no, I'm serious, which is
not usually a good stand up strategy, but it is
a fucking crazy story that this guy apparently had excess. Yeah,
(47:49):
working on the Apprentice saw that he was snoring. I mean,
you know, who knows if this is real, but it
he was sniffing so goddamn much during those debates where
you're like, yeah, that's when everyone was like going on,
and that is definitely something that happens you start getting well,
I mean if you don't want yeah, I meant doing
(48:10):
that below, But I think that weren't you saying like
in the eighties though, he was like into doctor prescribed
pet or something that was like that the doctor what
the doctor said that Dayeah, there was a doctor who
prescribed him all sorts of pet pills and like feel
good pills, and he uh yeah, he has like a
medical record history that I think people are trying to
(48:31):
pull from his doctor's office that either the Secret Service
came in and like pulled it or something or like
got rid of it. But it was that dude who
like looked a shady porn director. Yeah, yeah, who does
not look like like like the doctor that your weed
prescription exactly checks, he checks your fucking blood pressure for
(48:53):
two seconds. Yeah, yeah, you're good. Okay, you might want
to get your blood blood pressure. Yeah. I forget the
specific details, but I know that he was like using
basically medical speed during the eighties and then like the
trail kind of went cold. And I mean this is
there's a type of celebrity who you know, uses their
influence and celebrity to you know, get doctors to give
(49:15):
them the good ship. Any person who grew up on
the well, a lot of like teetotaling celebrities like Elvis
never took illegal drugs. He just died of a drug
overdose from drugs that like his homide doctor just prescribed
dry or Dr Pepper. Yeah, I think. I mean that's
the same kind of mentality a lot of people who
(49:36):
get even into other prescription drugs do because they're like, well,
it's not a drug, and it's easy to just in
your mind be like, oh, I'm not a drug addict
taking these things. And that's never gotten anyone in trouble
except for America right now, so we'll see, you know.
And it's also like for sure he's on speed when
he tweets yeah, like the middle of the night, Like,
how else do you think that happens? Yeah, I thought
(49:59):
he a man with incredibly poor nutrition, Like of course
he would be asleep, Like do you know what I mean?
Like he doesn't eat well enough to have energy. He
doesn't exercise, he doesn't believe in it. He believes that
exercise wears out your machinery. Right, So if you don't
believe in any of those things, I can't imagine you
have enough energy to run the country. So of course
(50:20):
you're going to be a speed at it. Well, there's
also that thing he said that he only needs like
what three hours of sleep at night. I wonder if
that's a lie he created, because he's just covered up,
whacked out all night. Only three hours of sleep exactly.
And I need a screwdriver and some old TVs, a
lot of poor a lot of poorn. And there's also
the dude who he wanted to give the entire Veterans
(50:43):
Affairs department too, who ended up having to pull himself
from contentions. Doctor Ronnie I think was the name something.
One of the things that he got in trouble for
was being like a doctor feel goods, and a lot
of people were like that. It's funny because there are
a lot of people on other admitted strange as. We
were like, yeah, well you know, yeah, take those fights.
(51:04):
Something to go sleeping, ne something to stay up. No,
I don't doubt that. So I gotta say doctor feel
Good always sounds amazing as a job. He's not a
bad guy, he's making good. Call it something more nefariously. Yeah,
the killer of Prince right, yeah, the doctor yeah killed
(51:26):
the King of pop and Prince was same. No, it's
not the same doctor, but doctor doctors, doctors who just
didn't know how to say no, enabler doctors. Yeah, all right,
a murder, yeah exactly, doctor Murder earliest feel Good. Yeah,
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it's got We'll workshop that. I think we I think
we got it. Okay, let's print to move forward from here.
All right, that's gonna do it for this week's weekly Zeitgeist.
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