July 28, 2019 • 49 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of the
Weekly Zitgeist. Uh. These are some of our favorite segments
from this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment
laugh stravaganza. Uh. Yeah, So, without further ado, here is
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the Weekly Zeitgeist. Uh. And finally, what is a myth?
What's something people think is true? You know to be false? Uh?
Doritos are of this world? M yes, they landed here
on an asteroid. It's not They're not real. Yeah you
like Drido's I do. That's why I can't like it's
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like the perfect perfect Yeah. Could you eat a like
a family size bag without a doubt? Like and when
like some good caso or something like that? Oh? Fuck
you double up? Come on man, yo, I like to
come on man, you're looking. If we're gonna sin, I
just don't want to fully dive in. Yeah, we're not
just gonna have oral sex. Let's do this, Let's breach
the castle walls. Uh. Nacho cheese derritos with green Mountain
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Greno salsa is one of my favorite combo. It's green
Mountain Gringo salace medium. It's just a salsa that I
really like. Where do they sell it here and yeah, yeah,
just one of my favorite sauces. Does it say green
in it? Yeah? Awesome at least no, yeah, like we
don't want that. It was actually on that food blog,
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the take Out they posited the question to their staff
is it nacho cheese or cool Ranch the superior torito,
and they were deadlocked. Na cheese because I think cool
Ranch gives you such a weird feeling in your mouth,
like tasting your mouth afterwards, this zing. Yeah, that's what
we call the zing. Right. The zing ends up at
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like maybe three minutes after you've eating it, making it
feel like you've sucked on a battery or something. To me,
the proper way to eat the cool Ranch is in
the sandwich itself. Yeah, the sandwich successory. Well, like inside
the sandwich. Yeah, because what you said, anything anything you'd
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put ranch on, bro Yeah, anything you would eat it with,
Like any kind of sandwich, you would eat it, but
you just put it in there. Yeah. You know it's funny.
I'm always not your cheese, but then I have cool
Ranch and I go, you know what, this one isn't
bad too. It's like chocolate and vanilla. Yeah, you need
chocolate vanilla especially Vanilla Bean may al right, a new
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show that reminds me. My wife did this bit because
she was because I like vanilla, and she was like,
you like a psychopath, Like why you just eat the
vanilla and she was like, it's pretty FilmOn deal on stage.
I was like, I wouldn't because I think I'm pretty normal,
and she did it and it bombs. I was like,
I think there's a reason it's one of the popular
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flavor right. Yeah, she was like I didn't think. I
didn't tell her that. I was like, this is gonna
be funny. Could you just wait to do that until
I'm so that's awesome? What is something that's underrated? Man?
Uh man? Jamie, Yeah, man, I'm a men's rights activist.
Surprised I tricked Anna out debate me coward to Jamie,
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debate you think you're so smart with your menso to
debate an average man, Yeah, but to own you with
facts and logic, um, you can't. You referenced tenfoil hat.
I think what's underrated is um what I used to think.
We're really crazy conspiracy theories like I had. I've had
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friends that have been telling me for years that all
the world's elite are pedophiles. And I was like, that
sounds crazy, but they were right this whole time looking
at these listen like huh, I'm like, man, it is
that is everyone you told me was a pedophile. She's like,
I've been I've been told that, Like I've been told
crazy things about Bill Clinton my whole life. But I
thought it was just because I grew up in a
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red state, you know. But yeah, I mean, god, see,
that's why this whole Jeffrey Epstein thing, I bring it
all out bringing. I want to see it all that
we need to get to the bottom of this ship.
That is the funny thing is you're seeing like a
lot of more like right leaning people that are like,
well what about when what are your people? Comes out?
And every everyone left, Yeah, please take them. All the
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fires are being stoked and ready. Yeah. And it's in
like every area of rich people to every genre of
rich Like there, if you haven't seen an Open Secret,
have you guys seen an Open Secret? That's the documentary
from a couple of years ago by Amy Berg about
like Hollywood specific pedophile and like I couldn't get a
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theatrical release really because it was like such a controversial.
I gotta see that. She's like an Oscar winning director
and he couldn't get it right right right. But it's
like it's so prevalent. I mean, we got we're talking
Pearlman today and this is like Abuseville to like, especially
the Carrot of Fame is used to just manipulate the
funk out of people. I still am just like, how
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is Dan Schneider not? Like there's so many people who
belong in jail and they're not. It's it's coming. Maybe
it's coming. Yeah, I mean it's coming out. And it's
just like I feel like a lot of things are
just coming to the surface. That's why everything is so crazy.
It's just like we're at the culdron is bubbling. It's
it's reached peak boil and we're just like all standing
around like, oh god, it's gonna blow. Yeah. The Devil's
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the Devil's balloon knots inside out. I can tell, man,
the Devil's windsock. Now, what is a myth? What's something
that you? Uh? I forget how Jack wards it? But
what's a myth? Now? Man? Just bust Okay, So this
kind of blew my mind and it's kind of a
string of thought that leads to a couple of quotes
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that we've been missed using for years. As uh So,
my girl and I were kind of talking about this
whole basic idea that millennials are like ungrateful or lazy,
and we were just talking about how really it's more
that we're so inundated with options that no one can
feel contentment because it's just we're so constantly aware of
what we don't have or or what the other thing
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we could be doing. Like, my grandparents had a beautiful maryage.
They were married for like sixty five years. But it's
also like she was just yeah, what if I about it?
That was my myth. I would like to break the
myth that my grandparents had a good parent who Thanksgiving conversation,
I mean, any grandparents courting story is the scariest thing
I've ever heard. My grandparents met via my grandfather cat
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calling my grandfather. Yeah she was, she was. She had
like a much younger sibling. She was like, you know,
walking the baby around she's a teenager, and my grandfather
tailgated her, pulled up to her. It was like, hey,
that your baby, and then they were married for years.
Hey yo, that your baby. Yo, Ma, that's your baby.
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That's your baby. No, what are you doing this? If
you wow? Okay, so go on, oh yeah, well it
was just we're just talking about it. It's like, also,
my they didn't have like Facebook, you know, where all
of a sudden, that girl that you kind of missed
with in high school hits you up twenty years later.
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Like I've been thinking about, you know, like he didn't
have to deal with any of that ship. She didn't
have to deal with any of that that ship. So anyway,
we were just talking about, like there's all these quotes
that we've just been misusing honestly to the opposite effects.
So like, for instance, do you know blood is thicker
than water? The full saying is actually the blood of
the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb,
which basically means the opposite. So it's basically the bonds
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that you choose to make mean much more than the
bonds that you're born into. But we literally say it
like blood a stick in the water, like blood over everything,
blood over everything. But it's really like because your friends
will adapt with you, it flows more like water. So
like blood, blood is slower to move, so your family
is not going to change, so you create your own
family that's like minded, and you guys are moving like
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a hive. And so it's actually like an insult to
say blood is thicker than water exactly. We've been saying that. Yeah.
And then the other one is they say jack of
all trades, master of none, right, which is like, if
you focus on a bunch of things, you won't be
great at anything. But the full saying is jack of
all trades, master of none. But maybe that's better than
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a master of one. So basically, a jack of all
trades would beat a master at most things because the
master is only good at one thing. So if you're
good at ten things, you're gonna beat the master at
nine things. This is a thank you. That's smiling family. Yeah. Now,
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next person to call me a multi hyph in it.
You don't fucking get the origin, homie. You don't know
the end of the phrase. Oh you're just a master
of super smash brothers. Okay, I'm a little bit good
at many other things as well. Hell yeah, Okay, that
that was empowering good. Yeah, that was to share that
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feeling with you. Motherfucking paradigm shift. Yeah, I think we
need a new drop for paradigm shifts. Just going the
last married it on that that's what those earthquakes where
baby was just the paradigm shift to see the Devil's
but provides and it giveth and it taketh away. Jamie,
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how is men con okay? So give us a quick update?
What's going on? Quick update? I'm not gonna I'm not
gonna go crazy on the recap. But do you feel
like you know I've been talking to people know about
over a year now. Yeah, you you're you are a mention.
Yes you've been. You've written things about mensa, Yes, you've been.
(10:00):
I'll let you just tell your story. I'm sorry, so
just making space. Uh so, So basically, if if you're
not familiar, that's great. Honestly took the IMNA entry exam
as a joke. Turned out to not be turned out
as a genius. Turns out, No, it turns out and
I genuinely do believe this. Turns out the test is
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way easier than they tell you, and it's kind of
a grift. Um I try. I truly believe like a
lot of people, almost anyone could pass this test. I think, Uh,
if you taking standardized tests, which most of us did.
If you if you dig well and your standardized tests
in elementary school, you'll probably do all on these. Uh.
(10:43):
Either way, I wrote about it as a joke, got
in as a joke, was writing some kind of goofy
pieces under the assumption that the group was kind of
a bunch of like rich liberal nerds. Yeah, sure so,
kind of poking at that. Um. Then turns out it
was a way more complicated organizations than I realized. There
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are a lot of secret Facebook groups that were toxic there.
You know, I'm trying to remain I'm like twelve thousand
words deep into this story, um, and it is said
that many words already way more bizarre. Oh you're writing Okay,
I thought you had spoken twelve Just no, although I
am going craft envirol the co crow. But long story short,
(11:28):
there are all these uh all these secret groups, especially
this one unmoderated one who found my work and immediately
were like, you know, like there there were there were
threats that were insulted. It was just kind of the
general uh person online. Yeah, you poked a cultural bee
hive online, right, and then the response so, uh so
(11:50):
I just started writing about that I stopped making fun
of it and stopped started reporting on it. Uh, things
kind of spiraled out. I like met people who were
very high up in a rick and Mensa and they
were like, Yeah, we're not going to shut this group
down because people like it, even though it's extremely right leaning,
a lot of rates of stuff in there, a lot
of anything folks, it's in that group. Um, and they'll
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specifically target members of the group they don't agree with
and mass blocked them and basically make the group inaccessible. Um.
So they it was requested that I go to the
annual gathering of but it was in Phoenix this year
or so. It was three days, three nights, seventy two
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hours of mensa hundred and ten degrees minimum the whole time,
because we're in fucking Phoenix. Uh. And it was it
was like truly one of the most bizarre experiences I've
ever had where I wasn't expecting for like, I had
a name tag on and and I think I was
(12:54):
confronted for good bad somewhere in between by minimum a
hundred people. Uh, just like it was because you've been kind,
you're sort of a pariah in the MENSA community. But
I didn't anticipate to know, of course, but yeah, but
I know, like you, definitely people knew the name Jamie
Loftus in certain circles. Sure, but I mean it was
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I thought I was assuming I could kind of slink
you know, not slinker up, but they asked me. Basically,
the criticism of me besides effect that I'm an ugly
count who doesn't know what I'm talking about. Outside of
that very valid criticism, um, the criticism was that I,
i you know, pre judged the organization before I got
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to know them, which so I was like, okay, final
go and you know, I'll talk to people and you know, fine, um,
and yeah, I met I've never liked. There were multiple
of times where I was in a room full of
people who had blocked me online. They knew exactly who
I was. I had no way of knowing who any
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of them, and it was just a series of in
person interactions. I mean some of them, I mean some
of them were pleasant conversations, and then I would hear
from a second party after like, oh that's person that
said really like hideous things about you that that I
can't see. Because so it was just like a very
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weird translating from online to I r L situation. I
was kind of surprised that there were a few members
who they were so aggressive towards me that I that
I knew who they were, and which means that they
went out of their way to go out of the
blocking and contact me directly. And there there were a
few people I met who got like, I think, surprisingly
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vulnerable with like why they why they felt a certain
way about a certain thing. And I still disagree with
most of it, but it was like, I don't know
they I got invited to this this dinner at like
Scottish hooters in Phoenix called it is called Tilted Kilt,
but it is it is Scottis shooters, um And I
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mean I ended up talking to all these people. That's
amazing that MENSA meetings are at the Tilted Kill, like
we're intellectual beat me at the Buffalo Wings. It was
a massive I mean there were two thousand people at
the Sheridan and Phoenix doing this, and and the daytime,
I mean the lectures during the day were mostly stupid
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and hilarious. Where there was comedy workshops run by eight
year old professor comedy workshops. I went to three comedy
themed workshops. What how? Why why do they need comedy
worked on in a shop? I don't know, but I
I don't think that they were helped by the by
the programming available. They're they're My favorite one was called
(15:44):
because Science is Cool, Young Sheldon, the Big Bank Theory
and you it was. It was cute, but yeah, sponsored
by CBS. No, it was. I mean, I've never seen
a room full of full grown adults recite a scene
from The Big Bank Theory from memory and then laugh
their heads off. Um, but it was. I mean it was.
I am going to write something about it. It's taking
(16:06):
a long time because there's more to write about than
I anticipated. I don't know. It was. It was truly
like the most bizarre, one of the most bizarre weekends
I've ever had, And I still don't even know how
I feel about. Right. Well, I can't wait for you
to finish this very long piece you've been working on,
because it sounds like it's it has everything. It was
(16:28):
a very strange experience that I guess. I guess that
I'll reach my conclusion at some point, But it's so long,
it's so much stuff. What is something you think is underrated? Underrated.
I would say, Gloria, who is the cashier at my
local Elpoil Loco. Um, she does a wonderful job, Like
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she makes me have a great day every time I
go in there. And I know that part of it
is like she's just the face of the delicious chicken.
Then I get and like the people in the back
who like season the chicken, they're probably and all the
hard work. But you know, she just greeted me with
a smile every day. She really is like the best
cashier of any place that I've ever had. I feel
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like we have a very it's an important relationship, right
and doesn't make you feel bad for eating a Eloil
loco every day. No, And not only that she does
the thing where she you know, they're reading like off
a script where they have to like try and up
sell you things, but she does it with such a
smile and such like a pleasant attitude that I don't
begrudge her, like trying to get me to sign up
for the Eloil local app or try some you know,
(17:31):
chips in guacamole for two dollars extra. And but do
you ever ever fall victim to them? Absolutely not know,
you know, just as kindly back. You're like, Gloria, do
you want to put this on your Eloia Loco American Express?
Or wait, you have one of those, don't you don't
you you don't know, I mean I shouldn't. If I
was getting points for that, I would be one of
like the most positive effective ways I could use. Though.
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I'm really surprised Vince, and I can call you Vince
right because I know how frequently come in here, and
if you just sign up, you actually get ten thousand
free Polo bucks just for signing up, and that translates to, well,
the way you eat probably about a month's worth of
free food. Well, all right, on that note, we're gonna
go to a quick break. We'll be right back, and
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we're back finally, what is a myth? What's something people
think it's true you know to be false? Oh man,
I forgot this part of the thing. Um lefty lucy,
righty tidy. Yeah, not always true, not always true. Sometimes
the contractor just blows it. In fact, in my apartment
they got they put the cold and the hot on
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the wrong side in the shower, and I think they
did it like just to screw with me. And it's
righty Lucy, Oh my, Well. Also, it's not that it's
like a world gone mad. We need a we need
a rhyme that is like clockwise verse count our clockwise,
because it's not it's not really obvious, like I always
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have to like think about it and be like, well,
they mean the top is going in that direction, not
because that that's why we have clockwise verse counterclockwise, is
because we don't. We haven't decided like one means right
and the other means left. So they come up with
a better topic and the bottom goes left. It's the
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right way. It's always going to turn that way now.
But I'm just saying the bottom part is going left.
Though on a circular thing, it's circle. It's circle miles right.
I just don't think you can. I don't think you
can say a perfect circle that is turning in place
is going to the right or left, it's going clockwise
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or counter clockwise. Okay, yeah, so funck off man, how
could it? But if you fixed a point on the
outside of a circle, you would very much be able
to tell if it's going just saying in relationship, because
we don't have a vertical line that actually differentiates between
right and left. Okay, Well, I guess I never thought
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so deeply about it. I just twist the fucking thing. Yeah,
but I like how it sort of fill us out
of like how could we know? Though? Is there like
a calculus term for this that we're just too dumb
to know? Probably almost definitely there math math gang. Let
us know how dumb we sound right now? Right? I
think I might be the only one who sounds dumb there.
I think everyone's like, what are you talking about? Vince
(20:31):
is gob smacked at the moment. I mean I started
around like discussion. I blame myself. Wait, but then that
I'm guessing for this thing to hold true that if
it's lefty tidy, that would mean it's completely inverted, like
even the way that the installed backwards or something. Yeah,
I don't know. I don't know. What do we scientists?
(20:52):
You know? No? No, we're not We're not. Hey, I
just got word in we're not confirmed from the boom
and confirmed. Okay, we are not fucking scientists. But let's
talk about this employee who was interviewed for Wired, who
has a background as a CIA officer turned Facebook employee. Yeah,
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and this woman Yale Iceland Todd, I think is her
name Eisenstadt. Eisenstadt, Yes, worked for the CIA as it
was a diplomat in East Africa adviser to Vice President
Biden and before that, and then came because they were like, hey,
we have I think an election meddling problem. You want
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to check it out, and she joined as head of
Global Elections Integrity OPS. And that was meaning like, hey,
you're in the CIA, you get it. You know how
this ship works, Like what can we be doing, like
safeguard democracy around the world, which is the CIA is
number one number one priority. Think they're most famous for
life guarding democracy, safeguarding oil profits with targeted assassination target
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assassinations and yes and if refuse jackals will do that. Um.
But then on day two she realized that the job
probably wasn't gonna be all that chill because she was
like instantly there like her boss was like, yeah, we're
gonna I think we're changing it up a little bit
based on what we need and we're just gonna make
you a manager for now. And she's like, I'm from
the Funk. What okay? So when they asked her, she
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goes on this interview, she says, quote, once I walked
in that door. I was never once empowered to do
the work I was hired to do, and in fact,
more than not being empowered, I was purposefully sidelined. It's Facebook.
Everyone talks about it being a flat organization. Everybody talks
about how anybody can go talk to anybody. It was
never that way for me. My boss intentionally never let
me participate in any of the meetings that were specifically
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about the job I was hired to do. So you're like, huh,
that's interesting, Well what else did they do? Like, what
what kind of stuff they doing for an interference? Her
first part was just sort of like, um, they just
kind of did the bare minimum, which isn't much. But
she says, the foreign interference part this might sound odd,
but should be the easiest part to fix. Of course,
people can always game it, but there are basic tools
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you can put in place. There were advertisers who paid
in rubles. Those are things that shouldn't have been that
hard to figure out. That was like her day one,
and now it's like you accept rupe. Uh, okay, so
when we do that, and I think maybe that's when
there But when she was asked like do you think
you were just a publicity stent. She didn't think she was,
(23:25):
but I think or she didn't believe she was. But
as her work became clearer, I think that's when she
realized that any suggestion she made was going to butt
up against what the business model is of all of
these social media platforms. And she's very clear it's not
just about Facebook or Google or Twitter or YouTube, whatever.
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This is just how all social media works. And I
think this is what's very interesting and something that we
deeply need to consider. Quote, the business model is to
keep you engaged. It's not even a question of whether
advertising is bad or good. It's ation of what do
they have to do to keep you engaged long enough
to get those ads in front of your eyeballs. Their
tools are doing what they can to keep us engaged,
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which is taking us down more and more extreme rabbit holes,
which is polarizing us more and more because the salacious
talking points and salacious click baity headlines or what keep
people's eyeballs on their screens, And the more and more
you can keep us outrage, keep us angry, keep us polarized,
it just makes it much easier for Russia to come
in and exploit that for me, the biggest issue is
to fix a business model that intentionally feeds on the
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worst part of who we are as humans. And yes,
people can say, isn't it just human beings? Is it
Facebook or Google or Twitter or YouTube's fault that people
love this stuff. It's not their fault. But they're absolutely
manipulating it and exacerbating it and getting into our psychology
in order to keep us on their screens. So I
can't buy the isn't it just human nature? Argument? Right,
They're engineering things to manipulate human nature. And now, yeah,
(24:51):
to the point where it's like, well, funk, I guess
if we keep turning adding spice to the recipe, it
will just it's already starting to burn. But if it's
like not, man, I guess we need spicier ship to
get people fucking going to keep so I can serve
you and add for shambong whatever the funk it is, right,
But I think that's really yeah, I think that's the
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that's part of the business model that I think legislators
also have to look at of like, oh, you're purely
guided by I need advertisers to buy ads. The only
way I can make our our platform attractive to advertisers
by saying I can keep idiots staring at this fucking
thing for X hours at a time. There's this book
(25:34):
Good to Grade that's like this guy did a study
on companies that had like sustained success, and one of
the like main things he says they all have in
common is called the hedgehog principle, which is like they
know one thing, Like they just always have the same
sort of core value at the heart of everything they do.
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So like with I forget what the like a let
was one of the companies, and like it was like
some manner of like shaving, like staying focused on being
the best in the world, a like providing like shaving things.
So uh with Facebook, like it seems like the entire
like d n A of the country of the company
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is built on you know, is built counter to actually
like protecting people's privacy and not manipulating them and not
making it easy for them to be manipulated. So it
doesn't like you can't just put a single person in
there and change like the molecular structure of the company,
Like that's just not an organism. They everything about it
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is built to be a successful company that makes money,
and the way they do that is the opposite of
what we're asking them to do. So it's not going
to come from within, Like they would either need to
be dismantled or you would need to put like a
government agency inside the company that like regulates them and
is like sitting in on their media to be like
(27:02):
totally unprecedented. Yeah. And the funny thing, like the the
one thing that she was saying, like based on her
working there and understanding like seeing like, Oh, their whole
thing is to know what the funk you want to
see and just keep accelerating your need to keep looking.
And she's that's where she was like, Yeah, I'm in
this unique position where I've worked at the CIA, and
I can tell you Facebook knows fucking way more about
(27:24):
you than even the CIA does. So that's troubling. Yeah,
because the CIA knows a lot about me. Yeah, they
do screen Oh he used to run this really weird tumbler. Yeah,
a lot of weird, wacky stuff on there. Um, we
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all saw the I mean that's not to say everyone did,
but the people that like even the Lego movie, all
these things that are about like dystopian sort of futures
and everyone went, okay, just just kind of keep a
heads up. There were people that were late adopters to
phones and then smartphones, people that were late joining Facebook
any of those social media platforms to be like, god,
damn it, all my friends are gone. I mean they're
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going to just live out here in the woods rubbing
sticks together and never see anyone. I gotta kind of
join the hive. And if it became like inescapable for us,
so I felt like, no, no, no, well, we'll all
kind of monitor each other and like, hey, keep an
eye out, big brother. Right, we all read that. And
now it's just so we're so immersed in it's so
oppressive that we're like, now I'm little brother, and it
(28:29):
just seems absolutely impossible. Like you're talking about like we
need someone to come and regulate that will never happen.
We have no power to do that to in any
way hold them accountable when there are hundreds of billions
of dollars. And if you remember when Zuckerberg went up
to testify in front of Congress, these motherfuckers don't know
what face, they don't know what the funk. This is,
Like those cos were like my granddaughter got a game
(28:52):
that's it. I was racist, like, well, you are Steve
King so but like even then, we're we don't even
the legislators that are equipped with the idea that the
conceptually what this is and what the potential is of
this kind of thing. And that's where we're like, oh
man and and she in the this CI a former
CIA person, former Facebook and play even pointed to that.
(29:13):
It's like, yeah, I don't even know if Congress is
fucking equipped even under like conceptually get down to what
this is. She was like, we we need a targeted
assassination to take care of the problems like the Jackal compromat.
Then maybe he shouldn't fly private too much. The thing about, uh,
do you have friends who have to this day to
(29:34):
this day? Uh? Not you who are not on Facebook? Uh?
I have. I have one friend who has avoided my
Space every fucking social media, like the whole He's a ghost.
He is not fucking available on this ship. And I
commend him because now I'm it wasn't even like him
being like, oh, I don't know. He was just sort
(29:56):
of like, what I gotta do? Sign up? I don't
even know. I get a fucking picture on my No
I'm good, and then like now I'm like, this guy's
got it all figured out. Yeah, but it's funny, like
I feel like there are there are kinds of people
who were so suspicious that never engaged in it, and
then people like my my friend who was just too
lazy and didn't care enough about technology to be interested
(30:16):
in it until he was trying to use Tinder and
he's like, you need a Facebook account and he's like,
fuck it, I'm sure I'm just gonna use okay Cupid.
Then I don't need it. Good for him, Yeah, I
like his style. No, I mean, I barely funk with Facebook,
but I do funk with other social media platforms. It
does seem like young people make fun of people who
(30:38):
have Facebook, which is at least a little bit uplifting.
But they're gonna age into a category. They go, I
want to see everyone's baby photos. They're gonna merge into
it where because you see all that stuff like Snapchat
is such a great thing for the temporary nature of existence,
Like they're they're living life kind of knowing the previous
generation was like that was your great grandmother's table, So
(30:59):
you own that now and you have to keep it
forever and it means nothing to me. It takes up
a lot of space. It's been in the family, and
the younger people are like, oh I had this photo.
It was the greatest day of my life. It disappeared, Well,
never see it again. Such as life, what's next, what's
the next thing? I'm in the present, so potentially that
could be. I mean, of course, there's still ways to
(31:20):
data mind all of your stuff and sell your information
with that, but it's it's a little less like every
time people sit down and type anything on Facebook, they're saying,
here's where I am, here's what I like, Here's how
you can mark it to me that yeah, this never
goes away, And that's what I've been saying. Snapchat is
an entire philosophy. It's not just a platform, man, it's
(31:40):
all about uh. Yeah. It was interesting. I heard an
interview with Janine Garofalo where she she like still has
the like mindset of like somebody in the late nineties
who's like, I don't really funk with computers, but like,
you know, for like good like reasons that at the
(32:01):
time might have seemed paranoid, but now but like it
was just wild because I was like oh, yeah, I
haven't heard somebody like this since I was like ten
years old. Like people just like stopped having this concern.
Everyone was just like, yeah, we joined, Yeah, everything's good now.
But she was like, yeah, I don't really do computers,
and like I don't put anything on the internet. And
(32:23):
I was like, what a loser. But two years in
retrospect and like, oh, I'm gonna get those likes. For years,
I didn't have any of the stuff. And I sent
out a mailing list through my website starting in like
maybe two thousand seven or eight something like that. And
then it finally like avalanche where I just I couldn't
reach out and get in touch with people. They were
only available through the networks. So I was like, damn,
(32:45):
you used to be like search them or go to
their website or something like you might even have someone's
actual phone number written down. And then so I'm doing
a bunch of stand up shows coming up, and I
sent out the mailing list for the first time in
like two years. It felt fantastic. It was just this
feeling like that's how I'd love to communicate. Here's what
I'm up to once a year or so, if you
(33:05):
want to email me back. Great, But I don't feel
like it's healthy for humans to have to constantly be like,
I'm not dead. Here's the thing, I'm still alive. That is,
I do feel like they're people who post a lot
a lot on social media. I do feel like that
comes from an existential place of I'm not dead every
(33:27):
time they post. Yeah, I exist and I matter, And
this is the version of me that you will accept. Yes,
if I look at someone's thing and they have like
fifty thou tweets, even if I like them, I will
never follow. You need something that I can't give you.
It's it's terrifying. Yea, this is coming from a place
(33:49):
of deep, unnerving need to screaming to the void. Man
speaking of people with really weird dicks, Leonardo DiCaprio doesn't know.
I have no idea. If he has a weird dick,
probably been sued. Jack probably has a gorgeous dick. Leonardo
dick Caprio, Hey, I mean that's I think that's my
(34:13):
favorite joke that anybody's made on our podcast to this point.
Uh Anyway, Nerds Dick capriod Dick uh has is still
forced to answer questions about why Jack had to die
at the end of Titanic, Like, so he's going around
doing press for his upcoming you know, Artsy Quentin Tarantino movie,
(34:39):
and people are like, so, why didn't you just get
on the door with Rose? Like you could have fit?
It was obviously pivoting, like being like and great, what
was it like to work with Quentin Tarantino? Okay, and
look I gotta ask, Like everyone's still harping on that
to the point that like he's really like pissed about
(35:00):
out it. Like Brad Pitt was with him on during
this interview and was like, yeah, could you have squeezed
in there? You could have, right, And Leonardo Kapro was like,
no comment, and he was like did you mention it
at the time that, Like Margot Robbie was like, yeah,
did you mention that at the time. To James Cameron,
he was like like, I said, I have no comment.
(35:20):
Oh why couldn't the boat just avoid the ice? Right exactly?
Could have been a chill film. I think that's a
I think that's the boat point to be honest, the
whole Like he should have just gotten on the door
because like it might not have floated, Like, well, that's
why there's been this is such a hotly contested topic,
(35:40):
like from people who made fucking diagrams of how they
both could have fit their bodies on the door, and
people were like, assuming their weight is this, and this
is the buoyancy of this would like but what how
do you assume that? So MythBusters did an episode about
the door where they were like, the way he could
have done it is to rein force its buoyancy with
(36:01):
a life vest but that requires him to swim, Like well,
it's like twenty degree water, swim under the door and
like put a life vest on there. And this is
a point James Cameron had to make. He was like
in response to that, he's like, you're talking about the
MythBusters thing, right, Oh you're talking MythBusters. Well let me
bust this for you. Yeah. Um, so I I agree
(36:24):
with James Cameron and on this and only this, uh
to quote Titanic. I mean, look, I think it's just
one of those things where people were so pissed that
he didn't have to die or something. But like, look,
that's why it's a fucking drama. Okay, it's fucking suspended
for a second to just be like, yeah, maybe he
fucking had he just died, Okay. James Cameron's like, you,
(36:46):
guys know I pilot submarines, right, Like you're gonna ask
me about this. He's like, yeah, I thought about it.
Oh you want to talk water stuff. Let's talk water stuff.
I create a new fucking c tech. But you know,
I think I think more people are pissed about the
necklace being thrown away. I'm just mad about Rose committing adultery,
right wow, and talks about that. You don't go to
(37:10):
movies to not see lion Dick and you don't go
to see acts of adultery. Yeah, I don't want to
go and watch a nice boat movie and then be
tempted by infidelity right by the fruit of another you
know the I mean that was for me. I didn't
care as much about jack Down was like great whatever,
Like sure, that's what happens in movies or whatever listens. No,
(37:31):
it it's the perfect sense. You know, that guy would
be a shitty husbands like, oh, I'm such a lovable
rogue drawing pictures of people like yeah, what are your
what do you? What job are you gonna do with?
Definitely fucked at least three other women. On during that
dance sequence in Steerage with all the Irish dancing. But
you don't know as she blinked her eyes and he
(37:52):
was sixty nine. The lady, you think yours is the
only handprint on this car window when you fog it up,
just hands over and all the other cars since serious
just to have handprints all over. So much heat was
coming off their genitals. They just fugged the whole thing up.
I mean, that guy was he was getting it in.
There's there's no way he wasn't. I also feel like
(38:13):
feeling like if they got off, like, hey, she still
would have been with cal right Billy Zane, like technically,
because didn't she say like she was still with him
until he like, well she shoot her, shoot her? Yeah,
but she at the end she just pretends that she
died and starts a completely new that's right, And then
(38:35):
she just heard tell of Cow's uh like fate where
he like shot himself after the market crashed in twenty
nine or something. Yes, I believe that's correct. I mean
I would have liked if she gave Cow some weird
like steerage std from you know Jack, like next thing
you know he's got like you know, lice and and
all the crabs and stuff from hanging out down there
(38:57):
with all those people. Yeah yeah, I feel like, but
then if they Jack and Rose are together living a
secret life, are they mad stressed? Because he's like, yo, dude,
like I'm kind of paranoid because you're faked your own death.
You got that wild ass necklace that's worth a lot
of money, Like I'm wanted, like in France, I was
drawing all those French girls, which is a euphemism, and
(39:17):
also like can I tell you more stories about me
and Fabrizio? She was a chill dude. There's no way
that that necklace would have gone unsold, unpawned. If if
Jack had made it, he would have pawned that ship quick,
all right. He gets like a bad like like heroin addiction.
He would have had gambling debts for sure. Yeah yeah,
(39:38):
oh man, see that's what that's the universe. You need
to explore what happens if they get off the boat.
She says, the necklace is Jack Dawson a good dude, right,
It's also kind of fucked up for her husband because
like she has grandkids and stuff, and then she dies
and goes to Heaven and the at the end of
the movie and Jack is there. She goes to Heaven
(40:00):
in the movie. Yeah, I mean she dies and like
arrives and it's the ballroom full of Titanic passengers. Oh ship,
that does happen. Yeah, that does happen at the end.
Oh wow, I'm so But that means that like her husband, kids,
(40:21):
grandkids are all like, yo, where is she? What's just
supposed to be here? And she's just like off on
the Titanic homie, y'all don't know, hadn't been getting it
in in Heaven at the whole time. Man. Oh, she
walks in on him in steerage, like I should have
sold that necklace and started a nonprofit. Uh. And in
(40:43):
stear when she walks in on him in steerage, she's
just sitting back in the car with noise canceling headphones
on daping. DiCaprio actually has sex allegedly that should be
how Jack Fox then yes, and like in the Heaven sequence,
he's got air pods in vaping hardcore and like, just
do your thing, girl, not air pods, bro. No, he's
(41:04):
canceling headphones so that he can't he can just totally uh,
zone out, that's right. Listening to Mt. Electric Field. My
friend was driving people to you know, he went to
Coachella and he was like watching the concert and he
looked over and he sees this like he was sort
(41:25):
of like this very attractive woman sort of caught his
eye and then he looked over and he's like, why
is she making out with that really gross, like fat,
just disheveled looking dude. And he's looking and he realized
it's Leonardo DiCaprio, and like at a certain point, apparently
like Leonardo DiCaprio like left and the girl was like
still like dancing, like waiting for him to come back.
(41:46):
And he's like, yeah, how is that. I was there
for like two hours and she was still in the
same spot. I was like waiting for Leo to come back,
and she probably would have dancing by herself there all day.
He went little did she know? He went to steerage.
When you coach Ella is the Doo Lab? Yeah, I
don't even know what that is. Joke for the homies.
I pretended like I got it, but I didn't. Yeah,
(42:08):
the real plot hole, like you said, our writer Jan
was pointing out that she really did not have to
throw that, like, well, how much did they say it
was worth? The diamond it was like the rarest diamond
on earth basically to that hundreds of millions of dollars,
and she like threw it out for romantic reasons, like
as opposed to just like selling it and feeding a
(42:30):
village for the rest of time for kids are like
I had to take out student loans. Hell, yeah, there
is if you actually search how much was the Heart
of the Ocean worth? It? Says the very famous jeweler
Harry Winston, known for having owned the Hope diamond uh
and many other diamonds, made his own take on the
Heart of the Ocean diamond using a real blue diamond
fIF carrot. This piece is worth ten times as much
(42:53):
as the previous example valued at twenty million. So I
guess twenty times as much as the previous which was
ten million as the previous example. What does that? Does
that mean the real hard look ship was worth a
lot rose You could have done something with it. It's
gonna be hard to find defense. It's like, yeah, we
(43:13):
need someone who has two hundred million dollars to flow
on a rock. Point. Very good point. Huh, Well, I
don't know if I have a buyer for that. Look,
all right, we're gonna take another quick break. We'll be
right back, and we're back. All right, let's talk about
(43:37):
Sylvester Stallone. Yeah, you know, I got right Racey. You
knows they can say, don't I got rights. I don't
think I could do anything. You can say the hell
out of that phrase. He wants to reboot Rocky somehow
(44:01):
he did that right, Like Creed was a great movie,
and you know Creed two. I haven't seen, but Creed
two Electric Boogleloo. Yeah, it's pretty good. Years the last
thing we saw. Yeah, he's seventy three. There's no way that.
I mean, the point of a Rocky movie is that
Rocky fights at the end of the Rocky movie. Yeah,
(44:23):
but now he's fighting against osteoporosis, and so that'll be
really out of calcium. Yeah, I mean so in this one.
Uh they said so. He didn't interview with interview recently
where he talked about a lot of things, but when
they talked about a sequel, Stallone says there's a good
chance that Rocky may ride again. He then goes on
(44:43):
to divulge the plot of the sequel, which involves now
get this ship, Rocky quote befriending a young street fighter
living in the US illegally, Rocky means a young angry person.
When he comes to see you, sister, he takes him
into his living an unbelievable adventure begins and they wind
(45:04):
up south of the border. It's very, very timely. What
the fuck is this? I mean, White fight Savior fucking
what the seventy three year old Rocky is like running
around on like border crossing adventures? Immigration advocate? Yeah, yeah,
I know, he looks amazing, right does he look? I mean,
(45:27):
if you pump yourself up with enough H G H
or whatever the funk else like a melting novelty camp.
I mean yeah, I'm sure. I mean I can only
guess he's like, yeah, you know, it's gonna be Mexican,
you know, I mean he has so he had the
perfect mind for the eighties, because like so, the idea
(45:49):
of Rocky going to Russia to win the Cold War
was just the right amount of cheesiness for the eighties.
But right now, like it's like two on the notes aggressive,
It's just it doesn't it doesn't work for the modern world. Yeah,
you know, he's gonna go to Mexico and fight the mafia.
(46:09):
Yeah out, like what the means what it will bring
it in the stuff? You know you're gonna fight him,
Like Okay. The other thing is, though he wants to
do a TV prequel series, this guy is trying to
bite the whole fucking apple. And but this is where
he was like, I bet I can't do that because
a he doesn't even own the intellectual property rights to
(46:32):
anything having to do with Rocky. He was fucking hoodwinked
out of his IP rights to Rocky. He fucking he
created Rocky right, the fucking writer of it. It's a
pretty common thing actually, yeah, yeah, he wrote it when
he was a nobody in Hollywood and like right sold
it to the studio. Like the studio didn't even want
(46:54):
him to be the person in it, and he like
had to basically put his foot down and be like, look,
you can have the intellectual property. Just let me just
let me fight, you know, let me look. But I think, yeah,
I think the producer who does have the rights are own.
Winkler like has a good relationship with Sylvester Stalone. So
he's the one who's always been like okay, like yeah,
(47:16):
let's do another one. Maybe not this pretty cool thing,
but also you know, I'm like I got old guy
meeting a young angry kid fighter is also creede. Right, yeah,
it's like mean this time, yes, hear to come out
and see the movies. Uh. Rocky is also based on like,
(47:41):
so Stallone went and saw this fight where a guy
named Chuck Webner basically like made it to the last
round with Muhammad Ali, and so Rocky is essentially a
true story. And Sylvester Stalone just like never gave this
guy credit, and like at first he was like, yeah,
it's based on Chuck Wepner, and then people who are like,
(48:01):
that's not and he's like, it's not based on anyone.
It's Rocky. Uh so yeah, kind of fucked up Chuck
Weapner like signs uh boxing gloves and like a you know,
one bedroom house for living these days. Oh man, really
one bedroom house sounds pretty nice. Yeah, it's actually beautiful.
(48:26):
It's like a Santa Monica bungalow. It's really it's like
on one of those streets right off ocean that's like
kind of those preserved areas. Right, all right, that's gonna
do it for this week's weekly Zeitgeist. Please like and
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(48:47):
hope you're having a great weekend and I will talk
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Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of the
Weekly Zitgeist. Uh. These are some of our favorite segments
from this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment
laugh stravaganza. Uh. Yeah, So, without further ado, here is
(00:22):
the Weekly Zeitgeist. Uh. And finally, what is a myth?
What's something people think is true? You know to be false? Uh?
Doritos are of this world? M yes, they landed here
on an asteroid. It's not They're not real. Yeah you
like Drido's I do. That's why I can't like it's
(00:45):
like the perfect perfect Yeah. Could you eat a like
a family size bag without a doubt? Like and when
like some good caso or something like that? Oh? Fuck
you double up? Come on man, yo, I like to
come on man, you're looking. If we're gonna sin, I
just don't want to fully dive in. Yeah, we're not
just gonna have oral sex. Let's do this, Let's breach
the castle walls. Uh. Nacho cheese derritos with green Mountain
(01:10):
Greno salsa is one of my favorite combo. It's green
Mountain Gringo salace medium. It's just a salsa that I
really like. Where do they sell it here and yeah, yeah,
just one of my favorite sauces. Does it say green
in it? Yeah? Awesome at least no, yeah, like we
don't want that. It was actually on that food blog,
(01:34):
the take Out they posited the question to their staff
is it nacho cheese or cool Ranch the superior torito,
and they were deadlocked. Na cheese because I think cool
Ranch gives you such a weird feeling in your mouth,
like tasting your mouth afterwards, this zing. Yeah, that's what
we call the zing. Right. The zing ends up at
(01:56):
like maybe three minutes after you've eating it, making it
feel like you've sucked on a battery or something. To me,
the proper way to eat the cool Ranch is in
the sandwich itself. Yeah, the sandwich successory. Well, like inside
the sandwich. Yeah, because what you said, anything anything you'd
(02:20):
put ranch on, bro Yeah, anything you would eat it with,
Like any kind of sandwich, you would eat it, but
you just put it in there. Yeah. You know it's funny.
I'm always not your cheese, but then I have cool
Ranch and I go, you know what, this one isn't
bad too. It's like chocolate and vanilla. Yeah, you need
chocolate vanilla especially Vanilla Bean may al right, a new
(02:42):
show that reminds me. My wife did this bit because
she was because I like vanilla, and she was like,
you like a psychopath, Like why you just eat the
vanilla and she was like, it's pretty FilmOn deal on stage.
I was like, I wouldn't because I think I'm pretty normal,
and she did it and it bombs. I was like,
I think there's a reason it's one of the popular
(03:03):
flavor right. Yeah, she was like I didn't think. I
didn't tell her that. I was like, this is gonna
be funny. Could you just wait to do that until
I'm so that's awesome? What is something that's underrated? Man?
Uh man? Jamie, Yeah, man, I'm a men's rights activist.
Surprised I tricked Anna out debate me coward to Jamie,
(03:27):
debate you think you're so smart with your menso to
debate an average man, Yeah, but to own you with
facts and logic, um, you can't. You referenced tenfoil hat.
I think what's underrated is um what I used to think.
We're really crazy conspiracy theories like I had. I've had
(03:49):
friends that have been telling me for years that all
the world's elite are pedophiles. And I was like, that
sounds crazy, but they were right this whole time looking
at these listen like huh, I'm like, man, it is
that is everyone you told me was a pedophile. She's like,
I've been I've been told that, Like I've been told
crazy things about Bill Clinton my whole life. But I
thought it was just because I grew up in a
(04:10):
red state, you know. But yeah, I mean, god, see,
that's why this whole Jeffrey Epstein thing, I bring it
all out bringing. I want to see it all that
we need to get to the bottom of this ship.
That is the funny thing is you're seeing like a
lot of more like right leaning people that are like,
well what about when what are your people? Comes out?
And every everyone left, Yeah, please take them. All the
(04:32):
fires are being stoked and ready. Yeah. And it's in
like every area of rich people to every genre of
rich Like there, if you haven't seen an Open Secret,
have you guys seen an Open Secret? That's the documentary
from a couple of years ago by Amy Berg about
like Hollywood specific pedophile and like I couldn't get a
(04:53):
theatrical release really because it was like such a controversial.
I gotta see that. She's like an Oscar winning director
and he couldn't get it right right right. But it's
like it's so prevalent. I mean, we got we're talking
Pearlman today and this is like Abuseville to like, especially
the Carrot of Fame is used to just manipulate the
funk out of people. I still am just like, how
(05:14):
is Dan Schneider not? Like there's so many people who
belong in jail and they're not. It's it's coming. Maybe
it's coming. Yeah, I mean it's coming out. And it's
just like I feel like a lot of things are
just coming to the surface. That's why everything is so crazy.
It's just like we're at the culdron is bubbling. It's
it's reached peak boil and we're just like all standing
around like, oh god, it's gonna blow. Yeah. The Devil's
(05:41):
the Devil's balloon knots inside out. I can tell, man,
the Devil's windsock. Now, what is a myth? What's something
that you? Uh? I forget how Jack wards it? But
what's a myth? Now? Man? Just bust Okay, So this
kind of blew my mind and it's kind of a
string of thought that leads to a couple of quotes
(06:01):
that we've been missed using for years. As uh So,
my girl and I were kind of talking about this
whole basic idea that millennials are like ungrateful or lazy,
and we were just talking about how really it's more
that we're so inundated with options that no one can
feel contentment because it's just we're so constantly aware of
what we don't have or or what the other thing
(06:22):
we could be doing. Like, my grandparents had a beautiful maryage.
They were married for like sixty five years. But it's
also like she was just yeah, what if I about it?
That was my myth. I would like to break the
myth that my grandparents had a good parent who Thanksgiving conversation,
I mean, any grandparents courting story is the scariest thing
I've ever heard. My grandparents met via my grandfather cat
(06:47):
calling my grandfather. Yeah she was, she was. She had
like a much younger sibling. She was like, you know,
walking the baby around she's a teenager, and my grandfather
tailgated her, pulled up to her. It was like, hey,
that your baby, and then they were married for years.
Hey yo, that your baby. Yo, Ma, that's your baby.
(07:07):
That's your baby. No, what are you doing this? If
you wow? Okay, so go on, oh yeah, well it
was just we're just talking about it. It's like, also,
my they didn't have like Facebook, you know, where all
of a sudden, that girl that you kind of missed
with in high school hits you up twenty years later.
(07:27):
Like I've been thinking about, you know, like he didn't
have to deal with any of that ship. She didn't
have to deal with any of that that ship. So anyway,
we were just talking about, like there's all these quotes
that we've just been misusing honestly to the opposite effects.
So like, for instance, do you know blood is thicker
than water? The full saying is actually the blood of
the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb,
which basically means the opposite. So it's basically the bonds
(07:52):
that you choose to make mean much more than the
bonds that you're born into. But we literally say it
like blood a stick in the water, like blood over everything,
blood over everything. But it's really like because your friends
will adapt with you, it flows more like water. So
like blood, blood is slower to move, so your family
is not going to change, so you create your own
family that's like minded, and you guys are moving like
(08:14):
a hive. And so it's actually like an insult to
say blood is thicker than water exactly. We've been saying that. Yeah.
And then the other one is they say jack of
all trades, master of none, right, which is like, if
you focus on a bunch of things, you won't be
great at anything. But the full saying is jack of
all trades, master of none. But maybe that's better than
(08:35):
a master of one. So basically, a jack of all
trades would beat a master at most things because the
master is only good at one thing. So if you're
good at ten things, you're gonna beat the master at
nine things. This is a thank you. That's smiling family. Yeah. Now,
(08:57):
next person to call me a multi hyph in it.
You don't fucking get the origin, homie. You don't know
the end of the phrase. Oh you're just a master
of super smash brothers. Okay, I'm a little bit good
at many other things as well. Hell yeah, Okay, that
that was empowering good. Yeah, that was to share that
(09:19):
feeling with you. Motherfucking paradigm shift. Yeah, I think we
need a new drop for paradigm shifts. Just going the
last married it on that that's what those earthquakes where
baby was just the paradigm shift to see the Devil's
but provides and it giveth and it taketh away. Jamie,
(09:40):
how is men con okay? So give us a quick update?
What's going on? Quick update? I'm not gonna I'm not
gonna go crazy on the recap. But do you feel
like you know I've been talking to people know about
over a year now. Yeah, you you're you are a mention.
Yes you've been. You've written things about mensa, Yes, you've been.
(10:00):
I'll let you just tell your story. I'm sorry, so
just making space. Uh so, So basically, if if you're
not familiar, that's great. Honestly took the IMNA entry exam
as a joke. Turned out to not be turned out
as a genius. Turns out, No, it turns out and
I genuinely do believe this. Turns out the test is
(10:22):
way easier than they tell you, and it's kind of
a grift. Um I try. I truly believe like a
lot of people, almost anyone could pass this test. I think, Uh,
if you taking standardized tests, which most of us did.
If you if you dig well and your standardized tests
in elementary school, you'll probably do all on these. Uh.
(10:43):
Either way, I wrote about it as a joke, got
in as a joke, was writing some kind of goofy
pieces under the assumption that the group was kind of
a bunch of like rich liberal nerds. Yeah, sure so,
kind of poking at that. Um. Then turns out it
was a way more complicated organizations than I realized. There
(11:04):
are a lot of secret Facebook groups that were toxic there.
You know, I'm trying to remain I'm like twelve thousand
words deep into this story, um, and it is said
that many words already way more bizarre. Oh you're writing Okay,
I thought you had spoken twelve Just no, although I
am going craft envirol the co crow. But long story short,
(11:28):
there are all these uh all these secret groups, especially
this one unmoderated one who found my work and immediately
were like, you know, like there there were there were
threats that were insulted. It was just kind of the
general uh person online. Yeah, you poked a cultural bee
hive online, right, and then the response so, uh so
(11:50):
I just started writing about that I stopped making fun
of it and stopped started reporting on it. Uh, things
kind of spiraled out. I like met people who were
very high up in a rick and Mensa and they
were like, Yeah, we're not going to shut this group
down because people like it, even though it's extremely right leaning,
a lot of rates of stuff in there, a lot
of anything folks, it's in that group. Um, and they'll
(12:12):
specifically target members of the group they don't agree with
and mass blocked them and basically make the group inaccessible. Um.
So they it was requested that I go to the
annual gathering of but it was in Phoenix this year
or so. It was three days, three nights, seventy two
(12:33):
hours of mensa hundred and ten degrees minimum the whole time,
because we're in fucking Phoenix. Uh. And it was it
was like truly one of the most bizarre experiences I've
ever had where I wasn't expecting for like, I had
a name tag on and and I think I was
(12:54):
confronted for good bad somewhere in between by minimum a
hundred people. Uh, just like it was because you've been kind,
you're sort of a pariah in the MENSA community. But
I didn't anticipate to know, of course, but yeah, but
I know, like you, definitely people knew the name Jamie
Loftus in certain circles. Sure, but I mean it was
(13:16):
I thought I was assuming I could kind of slink
you know, not slinker up, but they asked me. Basically,
the criticism of me besides effect that I'm an ugly
count who doesn't know what I'm talking about. Outside of
that very valid criticism, um, the criticism was that I,
i you know, pre judged the organization before I got
(13:36):
to know them, which so I was like, okay, final
go and you know, I'll talk to people and you know, fine, um,
and yeah, I met I've never liked. There were multiple
of times where I was in a room full of
people who had blocked me online. They knew exactly who
I was. I had no way of knowing who any
(13:59):
of them, and it was just a series of in
person interactions. I mean some of them, I mean some
of them were pleasant conversations, and then I would hear
from a second party after like, oh that's person that
said really like hideous things about you that that I
can't see. Because so it was just like a very
(14:20):
weird translating from online to I r L situation. I
was kind of surprised that there were a few members
who they were so aggressive towards me that I that
I knew who they were, and which means that they
went out of their way to go out of the
blocking and contact me directly. And there there were a
few people I met who got like, I think, surprisingly
(14:42):
vulnerable with like why they why they felt a certain
way about a certain thing. And I still disagree with
most of it, but it was like, I don't know
they I got invited to this this dinner at like
Scottish hooters in Phoenix called it is called Tilted Kilt,
but it is it is Scottis shooters, um And I
(15:03):
mean I ended up talking to all these people. That's
amazing that MENSA meetings are at the Tilted Kill, like
we're intellectual beat me at the Buffalo Wings. It was
a massive I mean there were two thousand people at
the Sheridan and Phoenix doing this, and and the daytime,
I mean the lectures during the day were mostly stupid
(15:24):
and hilarious. Where there was comedy workshops run by eight
year old professor comedy workshops. I went to three comedy
themed workshops. What how? Why why do they need comedy
worked on in a shop? I don't know, but I
I don't think that they were helped by the by
the programming available. They're they're My favorite one was called
(15:44):
because Science is Cool, Young Sheldon, the Big Bank Theory
and you it was. It was cute, but yeah, sponsored
by CBS. No, it was. I mean, I've never seen
a room full of full grown adults recite a scene
from The Big Bank Theory from memory and then laugh
their heads off. Um, but it was. I mean it was.
I am going to write something about it. It's taking
(16:06):
a long time because there's more to write about than
I anticipated. I don't know. It was. It was truly
like the most bizarre, one of the most bizarre weekends
I've ever had, And I still don't even know how
I feel about. Right. Well, I can't wait for you
to finish this very long piece you've been working on,
because it sounds like it's it has everything. It was
(16:28):
a very strange experience that I guess. I guess that
I'll reach my conclusion at some point, But it's so long,
it's so much stuff. What is something you think is underrated? Underrated.
I would say, Gloria, who is the cashier at my
local Elpoil Loco. Um, she does a wonderful job, Like
(16:48):
she makes me have a great day every time I
go in there. And I know that part of it
is like she's just the face of the delicious chicken.
Then I get and like the people in the back
who like season the chicken, they're probably and all the
hard work. But you know, she just greeted me with
a smile every day. She really is like the best
cashier of any place that I've ever had. I feel
(17:09):
like we have a very it's an important relationship, right
and doesn't make you feel bad for eating a Eloil
loco every day. No, And not only that she does
the thing where she you know, they're reading like off
a script where they have to like try and up
sell you things, but she does it with such a
smile and such like a pleasant attitude that I don't
begrudge her, like trying to get me to sign up
for the Eloil local app or try some you know,
(17:31):
chips in guacamole for two dollars extra. And but do
you ever ever fall victim to them? Absolutely not know,
you know, just as kindly back. You're like, Gloria, do
you want to put this on your Eloia Loco American Express?
Or wait, you have one of those, don't you don't
you you don't know, I mean I shouldn't. If I
was getting points for that, I would be one of
like the most positive effective ways I could use. Though.
(17:54):
I'm really surprised Vince, and I can call you Vince
right because I know how frequently come in here, and
if you just sign up, you actually get ten thousand
free Polo bucks just for signing up, and that translates to, well,
the way you eat probably about a month's worth of
free food. Well, all right, on that note, we're gonna
go to a quick break. We'll be right back, and
(18:23):
we're back finally, what is a myth? What's something people
think it's true you know to be false? Oh man,
I forgot this part of the thing. Um lefty lucy,
righty tidy. Yeah, not always true, not always true. Sometimes
the contractor just blows it. In fact, in my apartment
they got they put the cold and the hot on
(18:43):
the wrong side in the shower, and I think they
did it like just to screw with me. And it's
righty Lucy, Oh my, Well. Also, it's not that it's
like a world gone mad. We need a we need
a rhyme that is like clockwise verse count our clockwise,
because it's not it's not really obvious, like I always
(19:04):
have to like think about it and be like, well,
they mean the top is going in that direction, not
because that that's why we have clockwise verse counterclockwise, is
because we don't. We haven't decided like one means right
and the other means left. So they come up with
a better topic and the bottom goes left. It's the
(19:25):
right way. It's always going to turn that way now.
But I'm just saying the bottom part is going left.
Though on a circular thing, it's circle. It's circle miles right.
I just don't think you can. I don't think you
can say a perfect circle that is turning in place
is going to the right or left, it's going clockwise
(19:48):
or counter clockwise. Okay, yeah, so funck off man, how
could it? But if you fixed a point on the
outside of a circle, you would very much be able
to tell if it's going just saying in relationship, because
we don't have a vertical line that actually differentiates between
right and left. Okay, Well, I guess I never thought
(20:10):
so deeply about it. I just twist the fucking thing. Yeah,
but I like how it sort of fill us out
of like how could we know? Though? Is there like
a calculus term for this that we're just too dumb
to know? Probably almost definitely there math math gang. Let
us know how dumb we sound right now? Right? I
think I might be the only one who sounds dumb there.
I think everyone's like, what are you talking about? Vince
(20:31):
is gob smacked at the moment. I mean I started
around like discussion. I blame myself. Wait, but then that
I'm guessing for this thing to hold true that if
it's lefty tidy, that would mean it's completely inverted, like
even the way that the installed backwards or something. Yeah,
I don't know. I don't know. What do we scientists?
(20:52):
You know? No? No, we're not We're not. Hey, I
just got word in we're not confirmed from the boom
and confirmed. Okay, we are not fucking scientists. But let's
talk about this employee who was interviewed for Wired, who
has a background as a CIA officer turned Facebook employee. Yeah,
(21:15):
and this woman Yale Iceland Todd, I think is her
name Eisenstadt. Eisenstadt, Yes, worked for the CIA as it
was a diplomat in East Africa adviser to Vice President
Biden and before that, and then came because they were like, hey,
we have I think an election meddling problem. You want
(21:36):
to check it out, and she joined as head of
Global Elections Integrity OPS. And that was meaning like, hey,
you're in the CIA, you get it. You know how
this ship works, Like what can we be doing, like
safeguard democracy around the world, which is the CIA is
number one number one priority. Think they're most famous for
life guarding democracy, safeguarding oil profits with targeted assassination target
(22:00):
assassinations and yes and if refuse jackals will do that. Um.
But then on day two she realized that the job
probably wasn't gonna be all that chill because she was
like instantly there like her boss was like, yeah, we're
gonna I think we're changing it up a little bit
based on what we need and we're just gonna make
you a manager for now. And she's like, I'm from
the Funk. What okay? So when they asked her, she
(22:23):
goes on this interview, she says, quote, once I walked
in that door. I was never once empowered to do
the work I was hired to do, and in fact,
more than not being empowered, I was purposefully sidelined. It's Facebook.
Everyone talks about it being a flat organization. Everybody talks
about how anybody can go talk to anybody. It was
never that way for me. My boss intentionally never let
me participate in any of the meetings that were specifically
(22:43):
about the job I was hired to do. So you're like, huh,
that's interesting, Well what else did they do? Like, what
what kind of stuff they doing for an interference? Her
first part was just sort of like, um, they just
kind of did the bare minimum, which isn't much. But
she says, the foreign interference part this might sound odd,
but should be the easiest part to fix. Of course,
people can always game it, but there are basic tools
(23:05):
you can put in place. There were advertisers who paid
in rubles. Those are things that shouldn't have been that
hard to figure out. That was like her day one,
and now it's like you accept rupe. Uh, okay, so
when we do that, and I think maybe that's when
there But when she was asked like do you think
you were just a publicity stent. She didn't think she was,
(23:25):
but I think or she didn't believe she was. But
as her work became clearer, I think that's when she
realized that any suggestion she made was going to butt
up against what the business model is of all of
these social media platforms. And she's very clear it's not
just about Facebook or Google or Twitter or YouTube, whatever.
(23:47):
This is just how all social media works. And I
think this is what's very interesting and something that we
deeply need to consider. Quote, the business model is to
keep you engaged. It's not even a question of whether
advertising is bad or good. It's ation of what do
they have to do to keep you engaged long enough
to get those ads in front of your eyeballs. Their
tools are doing what they can to keep us engaged,
(24:08):
which is taking us down more and more extreme rabbit holes,
which is polarizing us more and more because the salacious
talking points and salacious click baity headlines or what keep
people's eyeballs on their screens, And the more and more
you can keep us outrage, keep us angry, keep us polarized,
it just makes it much easier for Russia to come
in and exploit that for me, the biggest issue is
to fix a business model that intentionally feeds on the
(24:28):
worst part of who we are as humans. And yes,
people can say, isn't it just human beings? Is it
Facebook or Google or Twitter or YouTube's fault that people
love this stuff. It's not their fault. But they're absolutely
manipulating it and exacerbating it and getting into our psychology
in order to keep us on their screens. So I
can't buy the isn't it just human nature? Argument? Right,
They're engineering things to manipulate human nature. And now, yeah,
(24:51):
to the point where it's like, well, funk, I guess
if we keep turning adding spice to the recipe, it
will just it's already starting to burn. But if it's
like not, man, I guess we need spicier ship to
get people fucking going to keep so I can serve
you and add for shambong whatever the funk it is, right,
But I think that's really yeah, I think that's the
(25:12):
that's part of the business model that I think legislators
also have to look at of like, oh, you're purely
guided by I need advertisers to buy ads. The only
way I can make our our platform attractive to advertisers
by saying I can keep idiots staring at this fucking
thing for X hours at a time. There's this book
(25:34):
Good to Grade that's like this guy did a study
on companies that had like sustained success, and one of
the like main things he says they all have in
common is called the hedgehog principle, which is like they
know one thing, Like they just always have the same
sort of core value at the heart of everything they do.
(25:56):
So like with I forget what the like a let
was one of the companies, and like it was like
some manner of like shaving, like staying focused on being
the best in the world, a like providing like shaving things.
So uh with Facebook, like it seems like the entire
like d n A of the country of the company
(26:17):
is built on you know, is built counter to actually
like protecting people's privacy and not manipulating them and not
making it easy for them to be manipulated. So it
doesn't like you can't just put a single person in
there and change like the molecular structure of the company,
Like that's just not an organism. They everything about it
(26:39):
is built to be a successful company that makes money,
and the way they do that is the opposite of
what we're asking them to do. So it's not going
to come from within, Like they would either need to
be dismantled or you would need to put like a
government agency inside the company that like regulates them and
is like sitting in on their media to be like
(27:02):
totally unprecedented. Yeah. And the funny thing, like the the
one thing that she was saying, like based on her
working there and understanding like seeing like, Oh, their whole
thing is to know what the funk you want to
see and just keep accelerating your need to keep looking.
And she's that's where she was like, Yeah, I'm in
this unique position where I've worked at the CIA, and
I can tell you Facebook knows fucking way more about
(27:24):
you than even the CIA does. So that's troubling. Yeah,
because the CIA knows a lot about me. Yeah, they
do screen Oh he used to run this really weird tumbler. Yeah,
a lot of weird, wacky stuff on there. Um, we
(27:45):
all saw the I mean that's not to say everyone did,
but the people that like even the Lego movie, all
these things that are about like dystopian sort of futures
and everyone went, okay, just just kind of keep a
heads up. There were people that were late adopters to
phones and then smartphones, people that were late joining Facebook
any of those social media platforms to be like, god,
damn it, all my friends are gone. I mean they're
(28:06):
going to just live out here in the woods rubbing
sticks together and never see anyone. I gotta kind of
join the hive. And if it became like inescapable for us,
so I felt like, no, no, no, well, we'll all
kind of monitor each other and like, hey, keep an
eye out, big brother. Right, we all read that. And
now it's just so we're so immersed in it's so
oppressive that we're like, now I'm little brother, and it
(28:29):
just seems absolutely impossible. Like you're talking about like we
need someone to come and regulate that will never happen.
We have no power to do that to in any
way hold them accountable when there are hundreds of billions
of dollars. And if you remember when Zuckerberg went up
to testify in front of Congress, these motherfuckers don't know
what face, they don't know what the funk. This is,
Like those cos were like my granddaughter got a game
(28:52):
that's it. I was racist, like, well, you are Steve
King so but like even then, we're we don't even
the legislators that are equipped with the idea that the
conceptually what this is and what the potential is of
this kind of thing. And that's where we're like, oh
man and and she in the this CI a former
CIA person, former Facebook and play even pointed to that.
(29:13):
It's like, yeah, I don't even know if Congress is
fucking equipped even under like conceptually get down to what
this is. She was like, we we need a targeted
assassination to take care of the problems like the Jackal compromat.
Then maybe he shouldn't fly private too much. The thing about, uh,
do you have friends who have to this day to
(29:34):
this day? Uh? Not you who are not on Facebook? Uh?
I have. I have one friend who has avoided my
Space every fucking social media, like the whole He's a ghost.
He is not fucking available on this ship. And I
commend him because now I'm it wasn't even like him
being like, oh, I don't know. He was just sort
(29:56):
of like, what I gotta do? Sign up? I don't
even know. I get a fucking picture on my No
I'm good, and then like now I'm like, this guy's
got it all figured out. Yeah, but it's funny, like
I feel like there are there are kinds of people
who were so suspicious that never engaged in it, and
then people like my my friend who was just too
lazy and didn't care enough about technology to be interested
(30:16):
in it until he was trying to use Tinder and
he's like, you need a Facebook account and he's like,
fuck it, I'm sure I'm just gonna use okay Cupid.
Then I don't need it. Good for him, Yeah, I
like his style. No, I mean, I barely funk with Facebook,
but I do funk with other social media platforms. It
does seem like young people make fun of people who
(30:38):
have Facebook, which is at least a little bit uplifting.
But they're gonna age into a category. They go, I
want to see everyone's baby photos. They're gonna merge into
it where because you see all that stuff like Snapchat
is such a great thing for the temporary nature of existence,
Like they're they're living life kind of knowing the previous
generation was like that was your great grandmother's table, So
(30:59):
you own that now and you have to keep it
forever and it means nothing to me. It takes up
a lot of space. It's been in the family, and
the younger people are like, oh I had this photo.
It was the greatest day of my life. It disappeared, Well,
never see it again. Such as life, what's next, what's
the next thing? I'm in the present, so potentially that
could be. I mean, of course, there's still ways to
(31:20):
data mind all of your stuff and sell your information
with that, but it's it's a little less like every
time people sit down and type anything on Facebook, they're saying,
here's where I am, here's what I like, Here's how
you can mark it to me that yeah, this never
goes away, And that's what I've been saying. Snapchat is
an entire philosophy. It's not just a platform, man, it's
(31:40):
all about uh. Yeah. It was interesting. I heard an
interview with Janine Garofalo where she she like still has
the like mindset of like somebody in the late nineties
who's like, I don't really funk with computers, but like,
you know, for like good like reasons that at the
(32:01):
time might have seemed paranoid, but now but like it
was just wild because I was like oh, yeah, I
haven't heard somebody like this since I was like ten
years old. Like people just like stopped having this concern.
Everyone was just like, yeah, we joined, Yeah, everything's good now.
But she was like, yeah, I don't really do computers,
and like I don't put anything on the internet. And
(32:23):
I was like, what a loser. But two years in
retrospect and like, oh, I'm gonna get those likes. For years,
I didn't have any of the stuff. And I sent
out a mailing list through my website starting in like
maybe two thousand seven or eight something like that. And
then it finally like avalanche where I just I couldn't
reach out and get in touch with people. They were
only available through the networks. So I was like, damn,
(32:45):
you used to be like search them or go to
their website or something like you might even have someone's
actual phone number written down. And then so I'm doing
a bunch of stand up shows coming up, and I
sent out the mailing list for the first time in
like two years. It felt fantastic. It was just this
feeling like that's how I'd love to communicate. Here's what
I'm up to once a year or so, if you
(33:05):
want to email me back. Great, But I don't feel
like it's healthy for humans to have to constantly be like,
I'm not dead. Here's the thing, I'm still alive. That is,
I do feel like they're people who post a lot
a lot on social media. I do feel like that
comes from an existential place of I'm not dead every
(33:27):
time they post. Yeah, I exist and I matter, And
this is the version of me that you will accept. Yes,
if I look at someone's thing and they have like
fifty thou tweets, even if I like them, I will
never follow. You need something that I can't give you.
It's it's terrifying. Yea, this is coming from a place
(33:49):
of deep, unnerving need to screaming to the void. Man
speaking of people with really weird dicks, Leonardo DiCaprio doesn't know.
I have no idea. If he has a weird dick,
probably been sued. Jack probably has a gorgeous dick. Leonardo
dick Caprio, Hey, I mean that's I think that's my
(34:13):
favorite joke that anybody's made on our podcast to this point.
Uh Anyway, Nerds Dick capriod Dick uh has is still
forced to answer questions about why Jack had to die
at the end of Titanic, Like, so he's going around
doing press for his upcoming you know, Artsy Quentin Tarantino movie,
(34:39):
and people are like, so, why didn't you just get
on the door with Rose? Like you could have fit?
It was obviously pivoting, like being like and great, what
was it like to work with Quentin Tarantino? Okay, and
look I gotta ask, Like everyone's still harping on that
to the point that like he's really like pissed about
(35:00):
out it. Like Brad Pitt was with him on during
this interview and was like, yeah, could you have squeezed
in there? You could have, right, And Leonardo Kapro was like,
no comment, and he was like did you mention it
at the time that, Like Margot Robbie was like, yeah,
did you mention that at the time. To James Cameron,
he was like like, I said, I have no comment.
(35:20):
Oh why couldn't the boat just avoid the ice? Right exactly?
Could have been a chill film. I think that's a
I think that's the boat point to be honest, the
whole Like he should have just gotten on the door
because like it might not have floated, Like, well, that's
why there's been this is such a hotly contested topic,
(35:40):
like from people who made fucking diagrams of how they
both could have fit their bodies on the door, and
people were like, assuming their weight is this, and this
is the buoyancy of this would like but what how
do you assume that? So MythBusters did an episode about
the door where they were like, the way he could
have done it is to rein force its buoyancy with
(36:01):
a life vest but that requires him to swim, Like well,
it's like twenty degree water, swim under the door and
like put a life vest on there. And this is
a point James Cameron had to make. He was like
in response to that, he's like, you're talking about the
MythBusters thing, right, Oh you're talking MythBusters. Well let me
bust this for you. Yeah. Um, so I I agree
(36:24):
with James Cameron and on this and only this, uh
to quote Titanic. I mean, look, I think it's just
one of those things where people were so pissed that
he didn't have to die or something. But like, look,
that's why it's a fucking drama. Okay, it's fucking suspended
for a second to just be like, yeah, maybe he
fucking had he just died, Okay. James Cameron's like, you,
(36:46):
guys know I pilot submarines, right, Like you're gonna ask
me about this. He's like, yeah, I thought about it.
Oh you want to talk water stuff. Let's talk water stuff.
I create a new fucking c tech. But you know,
I think I think more people are pissed about the
necklace being thrown away. I'm just mad about Rose committing adultery,
right wow, and talks about that. You don't go to
(37:10):
movies to not see lion Dick and you don't go
to see acts of adultery. Yeah, I don't want to
go and watch a nice boat movie and then be
tempted by infidelity right by the fruit of another you
know the I mean that was for me. I didn't
care as much about jack Down was like great whatever,
Like sure, that's what happens in movies or whatever listens. No,
(37:31):
it it's the perfect sense. You know, that guy would
be a shitty husbands like, oh, I'm such a lovable
rogue drawing pictures of people like yeah, what are your
what do you? What job are you gonna do with?
Definitely fucked at least three other women. On during that
dance sequence in Steerage with all the Irish dancing. But
you don't know as she blinked her eyes and he
(37:52):
was sixty nine. The lady, you think yours is the
only handprint on this car window when you fog it up,
just hands over and all the other cars since serious
just to have handprints all over. So much heat was
coming off their genitals. They just fugged the whole thing up.
I mean, that guy was he was getting it in.
There's there's no way he wasn't. I also feel like
(38:13):
feeling like if they got off, like, hey, she still
would have been with cal right Billy Zane, like technically,
because didn't she say like she was still with him
until he like, well she shoot her, shoot her? Yeah,
but she at the end she just pretends that she
died and starts a completely new that's right, And then
(38:35):
she just heard tell of Cow's uh like fate where
he like shot himself after the market crashed in twenty
nine or something. Yes, I believe that's correct. I mean
I would have liked if she gave Cow some weird
like steerage std from you know Jack, like next thing
you know he's got like you know, lice and and
all the crabs and stuff from hanging out down there
(38:57):
with all those people. Yeah yeah, I feel like, but
then if they Jack and Rose are together living a
secret life, are they mad stressed? Because he's like, yo, dude,
like I'm kind of paranoid because you're faked your own death.
You got that wild ass necklace that's worth a lot
of money, Like I'm wanted, like in France, I was
drawing all those French girls, which is a euphemism, and
(39:17):
also like can I tell you more stories about me
and Fabrizio? She was a chill dude. There's no way
that that necklace would have gone unsold, unpawned. If if
Jack had made it, he would have pawned that ship quick,
all right. He gets like a bad like like heroin addiction.
He would have had gambling debts for sure. Yeah yeah,
(39:38):
oh man, see that's what that's the universe. You need
to explore what happens if they get off the boat.
She says, the necklace is Jack Dawson a good dude, right,
It's also kind of fucked up for her husband because
like she has grandkids and stuff, and then she dies
and goes to Heaven and the at the end of
the movie and Jack is there. She goes to Heaven
(40:00):
in the movie. Yeah, I mean she dies and like
arrives and it's the ballroom full of Titanic passengers. Oh ship,
that does happen. Yeah, that does happen at the end.
Oh wow, I'm so But that means that like her husband, kids,
(40:21):
grandkids are all like, yo, where is she? What's just
supposed to be here? And she's just like off on
the Titanic homie, y'all don't know, hadn't been getting it
in in Heaven at the whole time. Man. Oh, she
walks in on him in steerage, like I should have
sold that necklace and started a nonprofit. Uh. And in
(40:43):
stear when she walks in on him in steerage, she's
just sitting back in the car with noise canceling headphones
on daping. DiCaprio actually has sex allegedly that should be
how Jack Fox then yes, and like in the Heaven sequence,
he's got air pods in vaping hardcore and like, just
do your thing, girl, not air pods, bro. No, he's
(41:04):
canceling headphones so that he can't he can just totally uh,
zone out, that's right. Listening to Mt. Electric Field. My
friend was driving people to you know, he went to
Coachella and he was like watching the concert and he
looked over and he sees this like he was sort
(41:25):
of like this very attractive woman sort of caught his
eye and then he looked over and he's like, why
is she making out with that really gross, like fat,
just disheveled looking dude. And he's looking and he realized
it's Leonardo DiCaprio, and like at a certain point, apparently
like Leonardo DiCaprio like left and the girl was like
still like dancing, like waiting for him to come back.
(41:46):
And he's like, yeah, how is that. I was there
for like two hours and she was still in the
same spot. I was like waiting for Leo to come back,
and she probably would have dancing by herself there all day.
He went little did she know? He went to steerage.
When you coach Ella is the Doo Lab? Yeah, I
don't even know what that is. Joke for the homies.
I pretended like I got it, but I didn't. Yeah,
(42:08):
the real plot hole, like you said, our writer Jan
was pointing out that she really did not have to
throw that, like, well, how much did they say it
was worth? The diamond it was like the rarest diamond
on earth basically to that hundreds of millions of dollars,
and she like threw it out for romantic reasons, like
as opposed to just like selling it and feeding a
(42:30):
village for the rest of time for kids are like
I had to take out student loans. Hell, yeah, there
is if you actually search how much was the Heart
of the Ocean worth? It? Says the very famous jeweler
Harry Winston, known for having owned the Hope diamond uh
and many other diamonds, made his own take on the
Heart of the Ocean diamond using a real blue diamond
fIF carrot. This piece is worth ten times as much
(42:53):
as the previous example valued at twenty million. So I
guess twenty times as much as the previous which was
ten million as the previous example. What does that? Does
that mean the real hard look ship was worth a
lot rose You could have done something with it. It's
gonna be hard to find defense. It's like, yeah, we
(43:13):
need someone who has two hundred million dollars to flow
on a rock. Point. Very good point. Huh, Well, I
don't know if I have a buyer for that. Look,
all right, we're gonna take another quick break. We'll be
right back, and we're back. All right, let's talk about
(43:37):
Sylvester Stallone. Yeah, you know, I got right Racey. You
knows they can say, don't I got rights. I don't
think I could do anything. You can say the hell
out of that phrase. He wants to reboot Rocky somehow
(44:01):
he did that right, Like Creed was a great movie,
and you know Creed two. I haven't seen, but Creed
two Electric Boogleloo. Yeah, it's pretty good. Years the last
thing we saw. Yeah, he's seventy three. There's no way that.
I mean, the point of a Rocky movie is that
Rocky fights at the end of the Rocky movie. Yeah,
(44:23):
but now he's fighting against osteoporosis, and so that'll be
really out of calcium. Yeah, I mean so in this one.
Uh they said so. He didn't interview with interview recently
where he talked about a lot of things, but when
they talked about a sequel, Stallone says there's a good
chance that Rocky may ride again. He then goes on
(44:43):
to divulge the plot of the sequel, which involves now
get this ship, Rocky quote befriending a young street fighter
living in the US illegally, Rocky means a young angry person.
When he comes to see you, sister, he takes him
into his living an unbelievable adventure begins and they wind
(45:04):
up south of the border. It's very, very timely. What
the fuck is this? I mean, White fight Savior fucking
what the seventy three year old Rocky is like running
around on like border crossing adventures? Immigration advocate? Yeah, yeah,
I know, he looks amazing, right does he look? I mean,
(45:27):
if you pump yourself up with enough H G H
or whatever the funk else like a melting novelty camp.
I mean yeah, I'm sure. I mean I can only
guess he's like, yeah, you know, it's gonna be Mexican,
you know, I mean he has so he had the
perfect mind for the eighties, because like so, the idea
(45:49):
of Rocky going to Russia to win the Cold War
was just the right amount of cheesiness for the eighties.
But right now, like it's like two on the notes aggressive,
It's just it doesn't it doesn't work for the modern world. Yeah,
you know, he's gonna go to Mexico and fight the mafia.
(46:09):
Yeah out, like what the means what it will bring
it in the stuff? You know you're gonna fight him,
Like Okay. The other thing is, though he wants to
do a TV prequel series, this guy is trying to
bite the whole fucking apple. And but this is where
he was like, I bet I can't do that because
a he doesn't even own the intellectual property rights to
(46:32):
anything having to do with Rocky. He was fucking hoodwinked
out of his IP rights to Rocky. He fucking he
created Rocky right, the fucking writer of it. It's a
pretty common thing actually, yeah, yeah, he wrote it when
he was a nobody in Hollywood and like right sold
it to the studio. Like the studio didn't even want
(46:54):
him to be the person in it, and he like
had to basically put his foot down and be like, look,
you can have the intellectual property. Just let me just
let me fight, you know, let me look. But I think, yeah,
I think the producer who does have the rights are own.
Winkler like has a good relationship with Sylvester Stalone. So
he's the one who's always been like okay, like yeah,
(47:16):
let's do another one. Maybe not this pretty cool thing,
but also you know, I'm like I got old guy
meeting a young angry kid fighter is also creede. Right, yeah,
it's like mean this time, yes, hear to come out
and see the movies. Uh. Rocky is also based on like,
(47:41):
so Stallone went and saw this fight where a guy
named Chuck Webner basically like made it to the last
round with Muhammad Ali, and so Rocky is essentially a
true story. And Sylvester Stalone just like never gave this
guy credit, and like at first he was like, yeah,
it's based on Chuck Wepner, and then people who are like,
(48:01):
that's not and he's like, it's not based on anyone.
It's Rocky. Uh so yeah, kind of fucked up Chuck
Weapner like signs uh boxing gloves and like a you know,
one bedroom house for living these days. Oh man, really
one bedroom house sounds pretty nice. Yeah, it's actually beautiful.
(48:26):
It's like a Santa Monica bungalow. It's really it's like
on one of those streets right off ocean that's like
kind of those preserved areas. Right, all right, that's gonna
do it for this week's weekly Zeitgeist. Please like and
review the show. If you like the show, uh means
the world to Miles. He needs your validation, folks. I
(48:47):
hope you're having a great weekend and I will talk
to him Monday. By S.
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