Weekly Zeitgeist 91 (Best of 9/2/19-9/6/19)

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of The
Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from
this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment last stravaganza.
Uh yeah, So, without further ado, here is the Weekly Zeitgeist.

(00:25):
What is something you think is overrated? Overrated? I think
having the so you know, it was just Labor Day
yesterday it was and uh I think the September Labor
days is fucked. Labor Day is May one, that's the
International Labor Day International. It is the International Workers Day.
Americans do that well because organized labor in this country

(00:48):
was brutally suppressed and the employers were like, let's make
another labor day that's not one in international solidarity with
the entire rest of the world. So they made it
September first Monday in September. I met you, and I've
learned so much. I am full of information, especially about
labor stuff. You're you're very informed on on labors. Yeah,

(01:09):
we're around. You funk with unions. I do funk with unions.
I don't think that unions are inherently left this, but
I work with unions. I would love to be in
a union. Who should I vote for in the guild. Oh,
let's talk about this off here. I'm trying to get
a job. These people are vindictive. So when did when
did unions officially like go out of fashion? Was it

(01:32):
just when Reagan crushed the when Reagan crushed them? Yeah? Yeah,
Well well basically, like you know, I'm not I am
not an expert on the history of American labor, but
I do know that there was like a huge resurgeons
in the early nineteen hundreds is also when there was
a lot of like violent anarchist activity in ys like Chicago, right, So,
like with industrialization, there's like a very strong labor movement.

(01:53):
People fucking struck and fought and died for an eight
hour work day, you know, which we now take for granted.
You know, like there didn't used to be natter or
work day, they don't needs to be weekends. So like
people really fought for all this stuff, and kind of
early ninets and then basically from the fifties onward, you know,
the government was more like breaking down unions and um

(02:14):
antitrust laws were either repealed or just you know, not renewed,
relaxed so that monopolies could grow. But like in the
early era of like industrialization, when they were like trains
and stuff. They're all these trains were getting big, you know,
there are all these monopolies and then the government was like,
well we have to break these up, and that helped
organize labor. But then um, you know, eventually they were like,
well this is pretty cool. Is it going to continue

(02:36):
to be a push pool? Like do you think? Like,
because I was reading this, dude just wrote an article.
He created the show Good Trouble, but he wrote a
really I was like, let me see what this dude
was talking about, but a really good article. And I
was like, Okay, let me see. Let me see what
he has to say about unions. And I read and
I was like, oh, this is actually really profound, and
like he was kind of talking about how it feels
like now a lot of people, especially with the Trump

(02:58):
administration the Bush Minister aren't working really hard to relax
and like you said, repeal some of that ship and
that now is the time where we can either like
not let that happen, or it's going to go too far.
The airline strike that's going on now is like a
big example of that. Like unite here is a union
of airline workers from many different airlines, and they're right

(03:18):
now trying to fight for like, like what is it United?
I think is paying people and they're making billions and
billions of profits. So stuff like that is kind of
like it's coming down to the line where people are like, well,
we're getting fucked so bad. We don't have any choice
but to do the ship anymore because you just can't live.
You know, these are people working two jobs and still
not making enough to live. That's insane. Do we think

(03:41):
it was part of a conscious strategic decision to make
Labor Day like kind of a shitty holiday where it's
the end of summer, Like it like makes you to
rest a little bit there instead of making at the
beginning of the summer. It's like, hey, for first, it's Beltane.
You know, it's the horniest day of the year. It's

(04:03):
like a magic day. What's Beltane? Beltane is like the
it's like a pagan thing. It's like a pagan celebration.
The first it's not the first spring. It's halfway between
the spring solstice and the I'm sorry, the spring equinox
in the summer solstice. Right, it's the day that I'm
always horny. Is it's a big, big horn watch out
for me on my first people. I've been keeping a

(04:24):
log of my horn level. Yeah, off the charts today.
Let's talk about you or you guys. Uh. They've got
a new ad, uh that is which the Jewish one?
Which do you or I don't know? Is there's two drs,
just two doors. There's Muslim do your Jewish der and

(04:46):
Christian dear. It's not the best in the biz for nothing,
thank you. So they've had a new ad that is
a Native American doing a ceremonial dan. It's uh that
it says we are the Land, uh, and the text

(05:06):
that appears alongside it says an authentic journey deep into
the Native American soul in a sacred founding and secular territory.
What more, yes more to come September one, um, yes no, no,
no, no no, no no more appropriation Uh the now this

(05:30):
so this is a a perfume or cologne. I'm not
sure which I no. No, So we are the Land
is just the idea, okay, obviously no, but so this
this scent sums up the idea of Native Americans being

(05:50):
the land. Smell like blood, probably a little bit there's
like blood mixed with passion fruit. Um. But so this
is a scent uh that is called savage. It's basically
savage with a U added. So we found a longer

(06:11):
version of the ad that gives it context. And the
way that we get context is we see Johnny Depp, yes,
Johnny Depp, walking through a desert with an electric guitar
finally uh. And he looks up startled like a merecat.
And then there is a young attractive woman in like

(06:35):
a wolf for who like looks up at him startled,
like what is he doing here? Is she on all fours?
Or she standing? She's I think she's standing. It's it's
actually right, uh. And then Johnny Depp shreds a nasty
guitar solo in the middle of the desert, and then
they cut to that dude doing the ceremonial dance. And

(06:57):
then what happened since we are the she's just there,
you know, does she enjoy the shredding or she like,
it's hard to say she. I think she's just aware
of his presence. But she's not actually like spatially there.
It's more like she's the spirit of the land right exactly. Um. WI,

(07:17):
what's up with that? What's going on there? I don't know.
It's it's hard to say, let's rewrite this ad, bro, please,
So let's just start in darkness and then a light
comes in right then you hear the howling of a wolf,
and then you cut to that lady right, and then
she's like, she's on all fours because she's a wolf.

(07:39):
It'll be crazy she was walking. If she was walking,
that's a whole different commercial. So she's all all four
if she's walking the exactly, it's a world and where
animals are walking, and then that's not a world we
want to live in, right, So then Johnny Depp comes
out of the ground and he's crushing it on the
guitar solo. But then someone stops him, and this Elizabeth Warren,

(08:01):
and she says, I should be playing the guitar right,
And then she takes the guitar and keeps playing it right.
The results of her DNA test flash on the screen.
Lind best to make sure everyone knows we know who
she is. She's legit, And then all of a sudden,
I'm trying to think of war I can take this
commercial to where it's not problematic. Well, uh, we want

(08:24):
a suggestion. Yeah, the wolf girl um whips out a
bass tread together yeah, yeah, like beautiful music together, like
when Red Hot Chili Peppers was playing at the Slawson
Castle and then the guitars in the basis, I don't
know the basis. His name, his name is Flee, I
don't know the guitaristist name. But they were they were
they Ain't that the lead singer? Yeah, doesn't play guitar. No,

(08:45):
not the guitarists Okay, Jon Favre, But that's not right.
Isn't that the drummer? And they're just playing with each other?
I was looking at a Trace Cyrus Tray. Serris has
a lot of portraits of named Americans on him, or
a guy who grew up in a white guy who

(09:07):
grew up in Tennessee. And then I was in l A.
How are you? How's you supposed to show respect? I mean,
I don't know. That's a question I'm always asking exactly, Trace,
how do I show respect for a race? I'm not
get a tattoo, that's right, Well, that's why I got
so many tattoos of white people on my body. What

(09:28):
is a myth with something people think is true, you
know to be false. Alright, So when I was preparing
for this, I couldn't decide whether I wanted to get
um all heavy and serious or talk about Popeyes chicken sandwiches.
I kind of cut it down the middle. But I
guess this is now that I'm looking at my notes.
I took like slavage jack notes, So it's kind of
an intense point. But I think I was thinking about this.

(09:50):
I was like, Um, myth, A big myth to me
is uh, this idea that like art is a weapon.
And what I mean by that is it like, um,
you know, I mean we're here in l A, in
the land where we make all the things, you know,
all the media and stuff, so maybe it's relevant. There's
a very popular idea in America that like I'm gonna
fight Trump with my music or whatever, or you know,

(10:12):
or with movies and stuff like that. And uh, I
kind of also call bullshit on this. I guess I
think it's a it's a very popular myth, and it's profitable.
And what I mean by that is here's what I
was thinking about it. Right, So this Dave Chappelle special
comes out, and everyone's everyone in the in the right wing,
the bright Barts and reason dot com. Obvious people are like,

(10:33):
you know, the cancel culture. People don't want you to
see this special, right, and everyone makes fun of them
because it's hilarious. But then you know, like a few
years ago, this Lady Ghostbusters movie came out and how
they advertise it. They're like, the bros don't want you
to see it, and like, what are these two things
have in common? They don't want you to buy my product,

(10:54):
so stick it to them by buying my thing. Right.
That's that's how like capitalism came back around and just
molded itself around all this stuff we're talking about, and uh,
it's it's dumb. I'm against it. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. Well, yeah,
I think there's the idea that you could somehow just
be like, do these subversive T shirts are gonna bring
are gonna end child separation? Like your heart's in the

(11:18):
right place. But I don't know, if you know, if
we're talking in terms of an action plan, that's the
best thing to do. But I guess if you're just
using it as awareness, that's one level of it. But
I think to to suppose that that that's the you know,
that's going to directly affect things. But it kind of
like I think it's advantageous to people in power to
permeate these myths because it really keeps people from doing

(11:41):
anything that actually threatens power by thinking like, you know,
well I could do a bunch of boring, dry political ship,
or I could pick up a brick, or I could
do my hobby. And then that's also somehow part of
this process. And it's like you imagine you're like a king,
You're inside of a tower. You don't want to get
in the tower. There's all these people out side and
they have weapons, right, Well, it would be probably pretty

(12:04):
advantageous to like permeate the idea that like weapons aren't
that's not how you do it. Do it with a song,
you know? You know it really fucking piss me off?
Is if y'all stayed at home? Right? Yeah, that would
really fuck me up? Yeah, I don't know. So, Like,
I guess this idea gets thrown around a lot of
the circles in it, and I think it's, uh, the
point I'm trying to make. I guess it's like art

(12:26):
is the end of society, not the beginning of it.
Like it's an end result, and so that's what America
has backwards to me interesting, you know, yeah, and I
think I mean all art is political, and so like
sometimes when people are going out to specifically make a
political statement that they have consciously concocted in their mind,

(12:47):
I feel like sometimes just in terms of the quality
of the art, that's it tends to work better when
it's like something that has taken some time to stewing
your unconscious or just in general, the best start is
true actual self expression rather than like pop music where
it's like, well this is banging right now. If I
do something in this world, I get swept up therefore,

(13:09):
And I think that's that's a big difference to if
like if it's like meaning first and then there's like
a point in it later. If you're writing a joke
that it's funny first and then that happens to have
a point of view in it because it's your point
of view and it's attached to the things you think about,
that's a joke, right. But if you start with the
thing you're trying to say, that's propaganda and uh, then
you're just a fucking Christian rock musician and you know

(13:32):
that's not fun. You know, I was a Christian rock
musician in high school when you were yelling yeah exactly,
singing come in the voice of the Lord and exactly. Yeah. Yeah,
we call it Ecclesie nasties. It's pretty good Christians. Uh,

(13:55):
let's talk about ranch rant these ranch dressing its ideology.
People always say, you know, all ranch dressing is political,
and uh, now you miles Hidden Valley, which, by the way,
there is a Hidden Valley Ranch. That ranch dressing wasn't
bent to that during the Year of Our Lord. Yes, apparently,

(14:18):
Uh yeah, they they're claimed the makers of Hidden Valley
Ranch are claiming victory over ketch Up that it is
now their influence of ranch usage now happens beyond the
salad bowl, including for dipping pizza, fries and popcorn. And
now this is where I get sucked up. They said
it has displaced blue cheese as a dipping sage choice
for wings. That's a lie. And that's how I know

(14:40):
this whole thing is bullshit. Yes, because I will never
put a ranch on a wing. But this is a
long standing kind of conversation that Hidden Valley has been
trying to get started. Uh since two thousand twelve. I
found an article where they were like, Hidden Valley is
gonna supplant catch up as the number one condiment by

(15:00):
putting out this new product Hidden Valley everything which is
thicker and so it sticks better to burgers and fries. What.
Here's how, here's how they should advertise it. It It should
be like these PC culture people, they don't want you
to eat on everything. Fucking own them, pone them with
this extra ranch. It's true, the cultural elites don't want

(15:22):
you to eat. They're all that'll give you a heart attack.
Ranches just fucking I don't. I mean, I get it.
I really liked ranch when I was a teenager because
I've never had it really growing up because my mom
just didn't have that kind of ship in our house.
And then I would start eating, like I had friends
who put ranch on everything. I was like, oh this
is I'm like, okay, this is a wave. Then it

(15:44):
died off because I realized it was just covering everything
I ate and there was no other flavor. It was
more just like masking ship and ranch. Uh. Now I'm
like really not as into the whole ranch thing, but
like when you see all these like ranch fucking fest
ranch fest. They haven't Vegas or whatever where people are
like beer bonging fucking ranch. It's just like the new

(16:04):
fucking Bacon where people are mistaking food for a personality
and I'm a little you know, ranch bacon. Hold on, Yeah,
well no, that's the thing. And that's when you look
at like the ship Hidden Valley is making. They're like
they found a way to weaponize ranch in every possible way.
By the way, ketchup isn't the number one condiment in
the United States. Also, right, it's actually Mayo and Mayo

(16:29):
by like a lot four hundred million containers sold each year.
Then's also with two hundred and seventy one million. That's
probably it's probably because of real America, that's right, Which
is funny. I thought I thought they're all those like
fucking takes, like, oh, millennials are ruining Mayo. May's dying
because millennials are poor. I think that was a single
article we found woman that people didn't like her chicken salad.

(16:54):
It's always somebody with a really specific agenda. Don't want
to come over to my apartment anymore. They're killing the
coming over to my apartment industry. Think my scarface poster
is quote gay. Anyways, be wary of any ranch news
that you hear. I know you guys have been just

(17:16):
reading ranch news with an open mind, but trying to
be a little bit. This is what's wild. There is
a ranch dipping sauce. Right if you go to the
Hidden Valley site, they have a whole subsection of different
ranches you can get. Okay, one is called blasted creamy
dipping sauce Ranch dipped pizza flavor. Now, what the fun

(17:37):
dipped pizza? It's so it's basically evoking the taste the ranch.
The dressing that comes out of this is meant to
evoke the flavor of you dipping pizza into ranch. It's
a flavor. It's a ranch dressing that's flavored as ranch
dressing that has pizza dip dipped in it is. That's
what I'm saying. This is meta. What do you put

(18:01):
that on? This is this practice practice? Yeah, I don't know,
I don't know. It's meant to just be like, if
you like the flavor of ranch and pizza, but you
don't want to just dip your pizza and ranch. You
just want to export that flavor to another eating experience.
This is where I'm just saying, the layers are becoming
too thick and crazy. Do you want to eat an

(18:22):
extre painting? Do you want your condiment to just confuse
the ship out like that one scene in Labyrinth? Have
you ever made ranch? Uh? No? I was just actually
I'll actually talk about this later. I'm into making my
own dipping sausage recently, and I was realizing how easy
it is to make ranch. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's making
your own sauces. It's fun. Um. I used to have

(18:43):
to make it because I work at a pizza restaurant,
and so you have to make it in batch, and
like it's basically just like three ingredients. It's just like
buttermilk and then like mayo or something some green ship
and then you put it all in a bucket and
then you get this big drill thing, drill on a
power beater. Yeah, and there like a construction workers just
like people walk by. Yeah, it's really weird packets you're

(19:09):
adding or was it real? Like from scratch it was
hidden valley actually packets of green ship. I don't know
what it is. Yeah, I don't know what's in ranch. Also,
and I eat it constantly and look and we shouldn't know.
In a way, I don't want to know. It's America's
new blood type. All right, we're gonna take a quick break.
We'll be right back, and we're back, guys. Let's talk

(19:38):
about the straight Pride parade that finally happened over the weekend,
the one in Boston. The one in Boston finally happened
over the long weekend. And I just say, I'm so glad.
I did say unplugged from the news for the last
couple of days. That's the thing. I mean. This was
poorly executed from a number of standpoints, but number one
being they held it over a holiday. We kend that

(20:00):
I had no idea what happened until after the holiday weekend. Uh.
And I also had no idea what happened until after
the holiday weekend because it was just it kind of
nothing happened. Yeah, it was like two people showed up,
so not few enough to be like there. So there's
been other straight Pride pride that didn't realize this. There

(20:20):
was a quote hetero activist who staged the straight Pride
Pride in Seattle back in I think it was a
couple of years back, and the attendance was lower. It
was just him. I couldn't find one other fucking weird.

(20:43):
It kind of takes the wheels off his whole argument. Yeah,
that's a sexual parade just by default he had He
had the black and white balloons, which ended up being
black and white, ended up being the color of the
colors of the straight Pride movement, if you want to
call it that, which we shouldn't Pride battle movement. There's

(21:04):
another straight Pride parade just last week in Modesto, California,
organized by Don Grundman, a chiropractor who also keeps running
for Senate and losing horribly. Straight Pride Parade, Oh you
mean a podcast Drop the fucking ball Don a chiropractor.

(21:28):
He's like, yeah, we gotta keep things straight. Also our
spinal lignement. Oh maybe it's all viral marketing. Yeah, the
most like some someone off handedly said that to him
and he has the worst ideas, and he's like, yeah, wait,
hold on, yeah, straight pride, straight backs straight, Okay, yeah,
let's do this. Yeah. His logo on his site is
a white fist next to the words fight the power.

(21:51):
Uh so it's even worse because what is the power? Right?
Fight out fight ourselves. There's also an old phote of
a lynching on his website that links to an article
where he calls black people chumps. So about section of
this site he claims that the crappiness of the web
design is on purpose because because it's a meat and

(22:16):
potatoes site that's here to quote assist you in both
countering and leaving what I term as the matrix, which wait, wait,
which is amazing what so many reasons. The about section
of his website is defending the shitty web design by
making by being like, yeah, because we're trying to fucking
red pill right in here, Yes, and also claiming that

(22:39):
he is the one who came up with comparing the
media to the matrix. Uh what what I term as
the matrix? So in a way he's the like originator
of red pilling. Yes, it's weird that he's not specifically
talking about the red pill like seene analogy in the Matrix,

(23:00):
because he could be saying that the media is like
those two albino twins from the Second Matrix or some
other weird ship. Yeah, he hasn't thought it through thoroughly
enough for his mind doesn't work, and that like meta texts,
I'm not gonna lie, guys, I've only seen the trailer
for the um when appearing before the Modesto City Council

(23:22):
to make his case for his straight Pride parade, because
nobody wanted it to be on shared county land, so
he had to end up renting out a place which
then canceled it there. Um, so he just had it
in his basement basically. But when he was talking to
the Modesto City Council to make his case that he

(23:43):
should be able to have a straight Pride parade, he
had a bit of a Freudian slip where he said
we're a totally peaceful racist group, which, yeah, that's tough. Anyways,
only twenty people were there to celebrate when when his
party eventually popped off, but two hundred lgbt Q ally

(24:06):
showed up to oppose them. Uh, and that brings us
to Boston just last weekend. First of all, they fucked
things up initially by using Brad Pitts likeness, right, they
were like like the ultimate straight guy. Yeah, Tyler dirt
and Dog. We're all Tyler dirdon. Um. I mean we
just think it's really cool him as an image of

(24:26):
like the straight man because you know, like he's so
hot and like his body is so tight, and like
everything about him like glistening, Like I don't know if
that's real select or like the makeup department with glyszer
and all over his abs or whatever. I'm feeling it.
What's more heterosexual than an imaginary metrosexual friend? I was
telling you to do all that bad stuff. Yeah, how

(24:47):
to use hair gel and ship. Right, So about two
d people showed up to march Um, we're mostly drowned
out by six hundred to a thousand counter protesters. Uh,
didn't they like shift it? Because the straight Pride parade
thing became so like such a joke around it that
they're like, well, it's also going to be like a

(25:08):
costume parade. So I think that was sort of they're
thinking heading in is how like straight culture has nothing
to associate itself with, so whereas gay culture, like the
gay pride parades are look amazing like and people have,
you know, things to do like visually that like make

(25:29):
them really fun to look at. They were like, oh, ship,
straight parride is just black and white balloons, Like what
are we gonna do? So they were like, you guys,
do cosplay, do cosplay, It'll be it'll be cool. It
was so well thought through that on the side it
said best solo costume gets a one hundred dollar gift
card to something. It's just Halloween a one hundred dollar

(25:51):
gift card to something, and and a two hundred dollar
card goes to the best straight cut what's caused play
for something again? Uh wow. The reason that that Pride
parades have a culture to them is that they have
an origin and them just been made from a whole cloth,

(26:13):
like the straight Pride parade. Pride is in celebration of
the you know, the Battle of stone Wall, where a
bunch of queer people got into a street fight with
the police inside of a bar and barricade the walls up.
The reason I bring this up is that this a
straight Pride parade implies the existence of straight stone Wall.

(26:35):
There was some kind of oppression, yeah, or some sort
of street fight with like whoever they're saying oppresses them,
like the PC police, twitter y queer eye people saying
I stopped wearing cargo shorts. That's stone Wall, man. It
denotes the day on which queer I said cargo shorts

(26:56):
weren't cool anymore. So Brooks running shoes with red white
socks pulled up to my knees isn't a cool look.
It's violence against me. Man. The Queer Eye guys got
hired to make over their dad and they like boarded
up the walls and ship and they were like, they're
trying to get in here. Oh god, the photos look
really really exciting, pretty bleak uh and and lo and

(27:18):
behold how many fucking cargo shorts are in this fucking photo? Dude.
It's like one, there are three pairs of shorts in
the picture, or four pairs and three of them are
cargo shorts. So good ratio? Yeah. Not. A ton of
women were showing pride in their straightness, and AOC tweeted

(27:40):
for men who are allegedly so proud of being straight,
they seem to show real incompetence that attracting women to
their event seems more like a I struggle with masculinity
parade to me. I hope they've grown off over the
next year to support joint lgbt Q fam next hashtag
pride and that's set the right way. Media off their

(28:01):
favorite person, their favorite lightning rod. It gave them something
to cover. It was beneficial to them in the sense
that it gave them something to cover that wasn't the
parade itself, because that was just self evidently embarrassing. Um.
But anyways, it looks like at this point, straight pride
parades are a resounding oh for three, But you know,

(28:24):
keep trying, guys. I don't know, man. You've seen a
Patriots Super Bowl celebration parade, right, yeah, I mean undefeated, like,
there's plenty of Most parades are straight Pride parades, right like, well, yeah,
of course this one has a monoculture. Yeah. Yeah, it
has terrible masks, it's clowns. Did you see the clou
of the weird green clown guys. No, there's a picture

(28:47):
that went around on the Twitter of like a snapshot
of these two guys that had green like makeup all
of their faces and clown wigs, and somebody explained it
to me. It's a after So they took the Peppe
frog and made it all right, you know, and then
they kept evolving it like Pokemon style. So there's like
a bigger one called Groper, and then the next yeah,

(29:08):
it's big, bigger, weirder Pepe and then there's this thing
called honkler now, and that's what they were dressed up as,
which is like a pepe a frog that's also a clown.
And I don't know what it means, but they certainly
could explain why they're dressed up as a frog clown
as a way of celebrating the fact that they supposedly
have sex with women. Tons of it. It's fucking weird. Yeah, yeah,

(29:32):
that is very strange. I wish I had not seen
those pictures. Yeah, yeah, it's nightmare fuel miles. You you
pointed out this look at Trump supporters as an expression
of this new trend. Yeah, a need for chaos. So
these political scientists, they did a like six surveys, their

(29:55):
European researchers, but they did four surveys in the US
or they like interviewed over five thousand participants and two
in Denmark with like somewhere around to kind of find
like they had this theory essentially that there's a need
from for some people who are participating in politics or
a democracy that are just looking for what they call

(30:17):
chaos incitement, which is a strategy of last resort by
marginalized status seekers. Um So what they're essentially saying is like,
you know, Trump has often just sort of tried to
create this narrative that America is in chaos, um, and
you know, like that sort of build himself up to
be like, look at these other presidents, their failures, it's chaos.
It's chaos. It's chaos. We need to change it. Um.

(30:40):
But they've found that a lot of these people who
have a need for chaos, they sort of get that
out or express that need by just spreading like conspiracy
theories and fake news and all this other stuff. And
it's not necessarily because they're trying to spread their own ideology.
It's just that their ideology is that they want to
undermine the political establishment, elites whatever and try and get

(31:01):
others inspired to be like, yeah, fuck this thing. And
before I think a lot of times you could look
at is like, oh, these people want this specific thing,
that's why they're tweeting this out. But there, you know,
as they look at it, they're like, no, these people
really just do this, not even because they believe that
it's true. They say, quote for the core group, hostile
political rumors are simply a tool to create havoc. So

(31:23):
in the way they identified these people. Is that they
found that the people who were like really into this
sort of this drawn to chaos category, that they had
affirmative responses to the following statements. I fantasize about a
natural disaster wiping out most of humanity such that a
small group of people can start all over. I think
society should be burned to the ground. When I think

(31:44):
about our political and social institutions, I cannot help thinking, quote,
just let them all burn. We cannot fix the problems
in our social institutions. We need to tear them down
and start over. I sometimes I just feel like destroying
beautiful things. Well, I relate to all of these statements. Yeah,
I agree with all the them. Well, they say, like
a lot of these tied strongly to support for Trump

(32:06):
and then even to Bernie Sanders to a lesser extent,
because like these are vague in the in the sense
that if you can see, like, oh, we're this capitalist
structure we live under, like is not working. We need
to let this ship burned. I mean, that's the thing
we've even said about like fucking burn it down. Uh.
But it's very very strong with people who identified as
like supporting Trump's some of Trump's earliest supporters were these

(32:29):
people who looked at like psychographic data that they had
stolen basically from Facebook, and we're like we've been tracking
like political like where people were in America politically, and
right now it just spiked in terms of people who
are ready for like an outsider candidate to come in
and just basically flip the checkers table and you know,

(32:51):
just up end the game. And so that makes sense
that like Bernie, who's coming in and like criticizing things
from the outside, and also Trump, like both of these
people who don't make sense to the mainstream media would
come in and like have some success. I mean it
shows it's at the very least, there is a growing
number of people who feel completely powerless in this system

(33:13):
and now are can some embrace just its total destruction?
I mean other people just want to see it shook up. Yeah,
I mean people have been wanting, you know, fantasizing about
zombie apocalypse is forever decades now. I remember when that
was like the fucking every urban Outfitters gift had something
to do with the zombie apocalypse, like Zombie Survival Guide,

(33:34):
which I read. Yeah, I mean the idea of simplifying things.
I think there's something alienating and a little bit like
a deep existential terror about the number of people there
are in the world and like how big the world is. That, Like,
people don't really like to kind of tangle with the
idea that you're actually just one of you know, uh,

(33:56):
seven billion people, right, yeah. I think I think that
Fox with people and that's where, you know, a lot
of our movies are about finding out that you're secretly
the most important person on the planet, like in The
Matrix or Harry Potter, you know, like all these huge
movies are just like, oh, it turns out I'm the
only one who matters, which is Yeah. I think this

(34:20):
whole movement is tapping into a very human like way
of confronting that and just being like, holy sh it.
Like in America especially, we don't deal with things by
thinking about ourselves as part of a collective, or at
least we don't do that well. We don't make seaming
about out of that. That is the problem with a

(34:42):
lot of people. They don't think I mean, to quote
George Constanza, were living in a society. Um. I think
that's the problem is that a lot of people don't
move with other people in mind and the day to
day aspects, and that's that's what's frustrating. It's like a
really good example of that is when um, you're driving
and a bus tries to merge, and you see how
many people won't let a bus merge. That drives me

(35:04):
fucking crazy. Trucks, Yeah, I would see that where trucks
are like in an exit lane and they're like I
have to get over or murder, like that's crazy. It's
gridlocked traffic and it's like, dude, what do you And
it's a best full of people let them in. I
don't know, it's just you see examples all the time.
I mean, even like the stupid stupid straw thing is

(35:25):
ridiculous of like how we're banning straws, but like we can't.
I don't know, you can't band plastic in general, we're
so dependent on that. But we want to get rid
of these straws, which is proof that like nobody has
any good ideas, right well, yeah, and the ones that
are would hold like too much of the stakeholders at
the top of industries accountable and like no, no, don't

(35:45):
don't bring that spotlight over here. Yeah, I mean that's
I mean, look at jay Z trying to be like,
let me fix the NFL, and it's like, dude, what
are you doing? Bro? You look like a fucking sellout. Yeah,
he looks crazy. It's also like impossible to change what's
going on in a in an institution that's been existing
for so long. Yeah, by handshaking with other billionaire plantation

(36:05):
owners who are like, yeah, man, yeah, we'll figure this out.
It's tough. It's tough. Yeah. And even with the whole
jay Z thing, I'm part of me thinks like there
could be the element that there is some kind of
idea that he wouldn't just so foolishly engaged with the
NFL like that. And then part of me we said
this when the story first came out, We're like, part
of me just knows he's a fucking hustle dude. He's

(36:27):
about that check. So yeah, I really be like, no,
fuck cap, that's a deal I just signed. Yeah, he's
a he's a long term guy. I think about how
long he waited for Beyonce, his virginity. He waited a
long time and she a virgin No really, maybe she
only had one other boyfriend before him and she said

(36:47):
she was saving it. Yeah, but Beyonce, I would have
that parts like I'm a virgin, virgin, thank you so
much for waiting. I'm that's it's as I can't believe
is here after her birthday? Daily? How you saying, dam,

(37:12):
I don't know. How isn't working out for you? Good hungry?
I could mean my birthday? Um yeah, jay Z is crazy,
but he but but to your point, I do think
he is someone who could easily be playing a long
game and uh having like having the center be money

(37:35):
like right, I mean, what is it compassionate capitalism, which
is not a real thing, but I think that's kind
of where what he's justified for himself. You don't become
a billionaire by accident. Become a billionaire by being a
ruthless animal. Ruthless yeah, predator. As he said, you didn't
start out from your trunk to reach the roof just
to put the roof in your trunk. Right, that's poetic,

(37:58):
you know what I mean, that's poetic. Thank you. And also,
as I said, jay Z and the range crazy and deranged.
So I mean he told us he was crazy beginning,
so you know, I mean shows so oh so whack.

(38:22):
As jay Z said, the streets is watching. I have
nine problems, but a B word is not one. Like
he said, I just said it. All right, We're going
to take another quick break. We'll be right back, and

(38:44):
we're back. Should we talk about Starbucks? Oh? Yes, we'll
get that far down and then no, no, you want
this one. This will lighten your mood. After that, I'll
tell you good. Let me know. Do you go to Starbucks?
First question? Okay, do you have an order that you
regularly have? What? Do you just like? Black coffee? Coffee?

(39:06):
Have you ever used the app to order? Absolutely not. Okay, Well,
if you anyone who's opened the app and just tried
to order something as simple as black coffee, you will
see the customization menu. Fucking bananas there. The amount of
ship you can just do it a fucking cup of
water is just absurd. And apparently this has been causing
a lot of problems for Barisa's because people don't know

(39:27):
how to act with this these customizations. So you can
add like you know, syrups, pumps of flavor, syrup, fucking fruit,
mashed fruit or whatever, fucking powders, milks, fucking the amount
of ice all this ship is in there. Well, now
they're saying, look, we gotta fucking pull we gotta pull
this ship back because y'all are going to ham on
these modifiers, and now they have to limit modify this

(39:50):
season exactly. I think it might have been pumpkin spice
season that occasion. The whole deal is, now, this is
the thing, gasp. There emitting modifiers. You can only add
the same ingredient only twelve times. What it so? Before that,
people were going into the so like you could be like,

(40:12):
I want this shot, I want this drink plus thirty
shots of espresso, or I want yes exactly. So these
are some of the drinks people were ordering. A venty
nine shot one pump moca non fat no whip with
exactly four shakes of cinnamon. That's something you can do
in the fucking app Okay, here's another one. I mean,

(40:34):
nine shots makes some sense to me. I mean that's
just added caffeine. That's just extra. Yeah, for sure, I
get that. Let let me let me, let me get
more of you guys fighting right now. How about this?
A cold brew ten pumps, vanilla, five pumps, caramel five pumps,
Classic syrup five pumps more of caramel, five pumps, white mocha,

(40:55):
whole milk, coconut milk, heavy cream, almond milk, wheat cream, cinnamon,
vanilla powder, sweet and low, what sugar, dark chocolate curls,
and extra whip cream. See, that's what happens when you
not get enough pumps in your Yeah, you just you
need other ship in your life to help you make

(41:17):
you feel better. But that's ridiculous. That really feels like
somebody who's taking advantage of the freebees and ship. They're like,
you know what, I actually put all that ship in there,
Like I don't care if it's it just sounds like
a sad Karen. Yeah, and it will melt your teeth.
I mean, yeah, the teeth. I just worry about people's
dental health. I'll worry about insulin spikes, diabetic shock just
happening straight up in the drive through. Another one, that

(41:38):
thing that was the most absurd to me was called
someone just get a Grande with twenty pumps vanilla twenty
pumps has on that. I was a little bit Barbara
Walters John stop and not not something like that old
I but yeah, what the fats crazy? That's not even

(42:02):
a thing that I feel is drinking. This is what
people do when they don't have a personality, right, have
no culture. I think it no sense of cells. I
think this is straight up addiction, like I think sugar,
like straight up yeah, sugar being like the thing that
kind of you know, it's like the hitting the lever
until you get all the all the pellets. But do

(42:24):
you what do you think sugar withdrawal looks like somebody
who's sick of off coming off sugar. I mean it's
a lot of headaches, it's a lot of just like
not feeling like yourself. Yeah, like no appetite because I
took myself off of like sugar addiction like years ago
hard because I was just like, you gotta understand, my

(42:45):
metabolism has been fucking great. It looks like I was
a kid moves at the speed of it. It really does.
So I could just eat whatever the funk I want,
and sugar was like top and it still is. If
I could have donuts to every meal, I would. I
really would favorite doughnuts. Oh god, crueler probably, And it
depends on Yeah, it's it's so good. So what were

(43:05):
you at your at your darkest moment with the sugar
just like no water and just drinking soda like that
was my water, was drinking soda and um cold classic,
I'm feeling spicy, guilled cherry coke cold. But that's what
so and I still struggle with it. Um. But it's
part of why, like I get my coffees with just milk,

(43:27):
is because I was starting every day with like tons
of sugar in my start your day with that ship.
You know, caffeine already is bad enough, but that sugar
ship is tough. But like because I also get migraines
in general, So like when I started getting I mean
I lost ten pounds almost immediately, and I didn't realize

(43:47):
it was just like the sugar, that's all it was.
Sugar just got off your body. Yeah, I just got
off my body and that so those withdrawals are tough.
And even now I I'm like, oh, I need to
eat sugar. And I'm not diabetic, which thank God, it's
seriously than God because I should be. And I actually
got tested, which was funny because every time I'm like,
can I just get my blood tested, They're like, you're skinny,

(44:10):
You're fine. I'm like, that's not how anything, Idiots. Yeah,
and doctor just take I'm sorry really bad headaches, okay,
go ahead off and and I like made them get

(44:32):
test my blood. But um, you know. But that's the
other thing is that like people, if you especially if
you're not if you don't look diabetic, people will really
dismiss you. And I was like, no one's going to
help my sugar addiction. Accept me, like nobody cares. Because
also the only thing that would get is at which
I do have now, is acne. And it's one of
those these people like, oh, that's it good for you,

(44:52):
it's a blessing, and I'm like, that's still not My
body is still reacting negatively to this consumption. And yeah,
so I think, yeah, people have an unhealthy sugar addiction.
And it's also like it's easy to dismiss sugar addiction
because it's not opioid foods, it's not drinking and driving.
It's just like not affecting my job negatively, right, even

(45:14):
though you're a bitch at work, Karen, right, Like we're
out of screaming. But you know what, worry not for
people who are If if your order is you can
still get that embarrassing ash drink, you have to order
in person and say that out loud in front of
other people out of star But that's a great way
to shame people into reducing their sugar and take. Well,

(45:34):
that was a theory a lot of Barista's had who
were they interviewed when they were talking about this, they
were just like, you see it more in the app
because they feel like those people don't have to go
and tell a human being high with like a tempum
fanilla five pup Karma five pump classic syrup. Crazy. Yeah,
people be like, what the shame is good? You do
need to bring back a little bullying in schools just

(45:56):
well yeah, just let you know, at least get feedback
from the outside world. Feed that's what we called bullying. Feedback. Yeah,
thank you to the woke bully. Yeah, you rebranded it
as feedback. So I've got some feedback for you. Pushed
them down, feedback for you. What the fund is this outfit? Right?

(46:16):
That's funny. I want to write a bit about that feedback.
I got some mom dad, I got some bad users.
I got terrible feedback. Was it from Marcella for teacher?
I have those screws? It was again ship So I

(46:37):
walked dumb well, Jimmy, you do walked down your pigeon toad?
Ask out of here. I was pigeon toad when I
was a kid. Were you really? I went to a
wedding and um, somebody's mom put them on blast that
they were pigeon toad. It was hilarious, and nobody knew
because we knew him as an adult and we didn't
know that he was pigeon toed at the kid and

(46:58):
she held put him in, she went in on just
during that very sweet Yeah, they're giving speeches, but it
was like free speech. It was just open speeches, which
is fucking ridiculous. That ship happens a lot at weddings.
I hated. It's just NonStop there. Sometimes when it's like
a fucking bad open mic and everybody's like, oh, you
know what, maybe don't you know I would like to
say something like no, no, no, no no. The stepfather

(47:20):
doesn't need to say something again. Yeah, those people don't
talk well. Yeah, and it's like very circular too because
everybody's sucked up, and then we're like, you know, I
just want to tell everybody when I look at these kids,
I've just been just feeling a lot of love for
that turn to the room exactly like, and I got
a lot of hope, and I feel like, just you
look around, everybody's rooting for you guys, and we're gonna

(47:44):
we just got a lot of love for you guys.
And you know, no matter what, no matter what, looking
each other's eyes. I don't know, yeah, because it's my favorite. Uh.
There is the other thing though, too, that you said
that remind of this finger waving. It's this caffeine. Is

(48:06):
the like at weddings when like family members go in
so hard on the people that are getting married and
you have no idea. I saw I'm not gonna name
names because I think these people might listen to the show,
you know. I saw someone sibling do a whole fucking
song about how they shipped themselves right, and I was like, Yo,

(48:26):
that's fucking wild. This was like at a rehearsal dinner.
Oh my god, they're gonna know. That's not a thing
that happens. I went to wedding on Friday and the
bride'smaid best whatever the fund that she does, called the
best Woman. She the maid of honor. I think best
Woman is a better and the best Woman was like

(48:48):
giving her speech and she was like, and then they
went did that breakup? And we all, because we're all comedians,
we all bowed, were like, because he broke up with her,
we're like, and she really talked about their break because
they had like a big breakup. And I leaned over
to my friend who was there, and I was like, girl,
don't ever if you give us, if I ever get married,

(49:10):
and if you give us, don't ever bring up not
even if you're trying to juxtapose that with how far
we've come. Times. Sure, I mean we remember. I think
we all remember, remember when we called you the zan
Manu the veg. But yeah, yeah, weddings are there's some

(49:37):
there's some good times. Yeah, yeah, is that gang? Let
us know if you've ever seen a parent or a
relative single handedly nearly bring down a wedding with a speech.
My dad was talking about a speech he saw the
wedding recently where they talked about like how quickly the
woman slept with the guy, and that like weighed into

(49:57):
like how god like, And that's how I knew that,
like my son was marrying a horror exactly, but she
was pretty chill. She also slept with me and your mother,
I don't know if you know that things got wild
and tempy. Temps definitely in Tempe. And it's time for

(50:22):
Miles to quiz us on some upcoming Hallmark Christmas movies.
Do First of all, let me U posit. This question
is about how many of us enjoy a terrible Christmas movie.
I'm not. I'm not with you like I'm a trash human.
I'm okay, my blood type is terrible Christmas movie because

(50:45):
there's no better way to just ignore your annihilation fantasies
you have than to sit on a couch and watch
these meaningless films where a person from a big city
has to move to a small town to figure out
the meaning of Christmas is typically the construction. Now, the
reason I asked is because to me, these films are
so formulaic that at times from the title alone you
can begin to figure out what the plot of the

(51:08):
film is. So I just so Hallmark just announced their
full list of Holiday movies and the titles with some synapsies, um,
and I just want to see, if you know, for
some media savvy individuals like yourself, I like garbage media
and garbage movies, So I think and just knowing how
these films are developed, how the titles all have to

(51:28):
be kind of wit. This is the deal where it's
thirty one in Christmas movies in the days of September
or December or something. Yeah, where they do Yeah, they
would just pack it every day. Basically. I think it's
the I think October starts October. There's forty films they
have first of all. So here we go. I just

(51:49):
want to put this title up to you. This one
is called a Christmas Scavenger Hunt. Okay, Now you're saying
that it's usual about a city girl who has to
go back to the country. Not always, but it's always
some very very generic rom com construction. Yeah, I'm assuming
this is sort of a Gift to the Magi kind
of deal where they've send each other out on these

(52:13):
scavenger hunts and they get they get the thing, but
they had to sell their other things that matched with
it to get the other present for that one. Does
everyone know what Gift of the Magi is? Okay, this
is like, yeah, it's like one of these tropes. I mean,
it's a it's a it's a story, but now it's
a trope where um, let's say, like, um, you know

(52:34):
the guy gets a haircut for the girl or gets it,
gets a hairbrush for the girl. Um uh. And then
the girl wants to buy something for the guy, and
so she like cuts off her hair to sell her
hair to get get money for the guy's watch. But
then the guy I had to cut off his hand,
you know, to get money for the hair brush, and

(52:54):
so they give it to him. I can't use them anymore. Yeah,
she's like, they learn a lesson about love. Yeah, I
think this guy, you know, a star for that. I'm sorry,
I'm just gonna cut you off, and I'm just gonna
tell you just go for it, okay. Scavenger hunt there's
a Christmas scavenger hunt that happens in the city or

(53:17):
the country and a couple is competing against each other.
Or two a man and a woman are competing against
each other and eventually fall in love. Nearly fucking spot off. Wow.
When Belinda heads back to her hometown for the holidays,
things get complicated when she's forced to team up with
her ex Dustin at the town's annual Christmas The Town's okay,

(53:43):
how about this? Yours is, by the way, just way
too meaningful. See, this is a Hallmark executive. If I
could do it again, I would have said, it's just
a scavenger hunt that ends with her finding a diamond ring.
How about this one? A Christmas duet? Okay? Uh? Yeah, Okay,

(54:04):
So I want to go with the competition aspect. They're
both auditioning for the same chair, uh cello or something,
and then um so in the end one of them
gets it, but then they decided to do a duet instead. Yeah,
and I'm gonna go with uh. The girl is coming
from the city. She's a musician. She's moved away to

(54:24):
apply her musical trade in the city. She's going back home.
Her ex or high school boyfriend is also there, and
they end up a duet like playing music together and
falling in love. Wow. Okay, so it's about a well
loved music duo. Avery and Jess Jesse, famous for their
duet wouldn't be Christmas. They haven't played together in years

(54:46):
and have since gone their separate ways. Avery has given
up music and open up a beautiful, simple yet idyllic
lodge in snowy, Vermont, while Jesse still tours and he's
struggling to find the same kind of success they had
as a duel. When Fate brings them together, can they
find happiness and success once more? I bet that Bucolic
rural setting is better for the soul than his touring

(55:09):
and worldly ways. If I had to guess one last one,
because this is just so absurd. This is called picture
a perfect Christmas. This is so zany though you're probably
not going to get it, but I just like that
they think this is a thing that would be a
good Christmas film. Um so a Christmas family picture something something.

(55:30):
I'll give you a hint. It's about a photographer. Now,
think of a photographer that really has nothing to do
with Christmas, Okay, like magazine photographer. I'm guessing it's a
it's a school portrait photographer, and he takes pictures of
different schools and then when they get it, takes pictures outside.

(55:56):
All right, Luther Wilson l a entry click. So he
takes portraits of all the kids at different school and
he accidentally switches. He accidentally sends the wrong prince to
the wrong family on Christmas. Christmas is like a background

(56:19):
because it's just a commentary on how long it takes
to get the pictures. Because they took the pictures nine
months earlier. He's okay, I try one more dating profile
picture taker, No, it's ship. The movie centers around in
extreme sports photography who returns home for the holiday to

(56:39):
look after her grandmother and ends up lending a helping
hand to a neighbor who needs assistance watching his nephew
extreme sports opening. Yeah, right, exactly. She's probably picked up
a few tricks of the trade from her extreme sports people,
and I bet the kid is having trouble with some
manner of extreme sports are just like the building up

(57:00):
the courage to do something, and in helping the nephew,
her and the uncle fall in love or it's like,
it's just a picture, you know what I mean. Don't
get intimidated by the picture. It's just a moment. I
watched one of these yesterday on the plane. A Christmas film, No,
but the exact same structure like a Hallmark film. It's
called Falling in Love. Two ends. Christina Million, you know,

(57:24):
lives that corporate rat race. I think she said hamster
wheel in the movie eight times. And then she enters
a contest to win an inn in New Zealand by
writing an essay. She wins it, and then throughout the movie,
she wins it, like she becomes a proprietor. So she
moves to New Zealand and then to get this idea,
like but it's a mess and she's gonna cleet it up,

(57:46):
and people keep people keep saying like about how like
this this guy was running the scam. You know, Uh,
the contest was a scam, And then at the end
there's no scam. They never bring up the fact that
anyone said it might be a scam. And then it
just works out perfectly and she has impeccable managerials it.
Speaking of scams, I have a friend who's visiting in

(58:07):
town and they like got a place through one of
the I think Airbnb or not Airbnb, the other one
r v R b oh, and it's just a complete scam,
Like they took really nice pictures, like paid a lot
of money and then the place is a complete dump
and the person emailed them. The person emailed them the

(58:29):
next day and was like, I'm gonna tell everybody that
you threw a huge party and destroyed the place if
you try and get your money back. And they're like,
but you literally sent me evidence your plot by they
sent I mean, what about the screenshot of that message.
They didn't say it, like I'm going to tell people
that they said you threw a huge party last night,

(58:52):
and I don't want to tell in the place. Yeah, yeah,
that sort of thing. So anyways, SHIP have friends who
live where you're going, check out the place if possible, yep,
And uh, just don't don't contribute to housing crisis. But
how many times can they get away with that? Like
vrb O gets a complaint every time someone stays there. Yeah,

(59:13):
I mean a lot of these men are not staffed
as well as you would. I had to. I had
a dispute with one of those companies Ship. It took forever,
and there was shit coming out the toilets, and they're like,
you want your money back, Like, yeah, there's raw sewage toilet. Yeah, exactly.
Not come out the bottom of this seems because they

(59:34):
sped up their renovations too much. I've seen it a
hundred times. I watch a lot of house slipper shows.
All right, that's gonna do it for this week's weekly Zeitgeist.
Please like and review the show. If you like the show.
Uh means the world to Miles. He needs your validation, folks.
I hope you're having a great weekend and I will

(59:56):
talk to him Monday by Sai