November 3, 2019 • 46 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of The
Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from
this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment last stravaganza.
Uh yeah, So, without further ado, here is the Weekly Zeitgeist.
(00:24):
Well what do you think it's that's underrated? Underrated? Okay, guys,
so call back to that opening that I did. I
know a lot of you probably don't know that song. Yeah,
that's fucked up, because that's what that's my underrated right now?
Sad rich White People TV. It's right now. It was
(00:46):
called independent cinema for a long time. What you're talking about,
it's reached mainstream and I'm here for so what what?
What is this genre? Is this succession session? It's the affair, um,
It's there's about to be a new Jahnt coming out
the Morning Show. Just savage white people content where I
(01:07):
gotta like, watch you being sad even though you got
everything you ever wanted. They have to make every like
even like Judd Apatow Maybes like all you have to
make the family not have to worry about money so
that they can have emotional problems because because when you
don't have money, you don't have time to be like,
(01:29):
why aren't you paying enough attention to me? Because you're like,
you know why, that was kind of emotional problems because
like we we don't have any money and you're not around.
I know why you're not paying attention to me. Where
it's like like the what's the Pretty Little Liars or
not pretty? That show is goddamn ridiculous, the Monterey California
(01:51):
where you're like, yeah, no one there has any problems, right,
So that way you can really I get what you're
saying because most people who have. Then it becomes a
completely different show about the struggle of people were working
versus like the show rose is about. There's like she
yells it Dan a lot for just not having money,
which Roseanne not having money becomes the main issue when
you don't have money, which is how life works. Yeah,
(02:14):
so we go to rich we can talk about how
these people are completely emotionally ill equipped to have functioning relationship,
to talk about the p t A that can be
a big deal. There's literally a scene like four pta
scenes in the last season A big little life. I
just didn't feel fulfilled in my sex life. I mean, yes,
he sucked me four times a week, but I need
someone to me five times. It's like, God, I hear you,
I hear you. And to think that he that birken
(02:37):
bag was used, it was secondhand. Um, what is what's
the affairs on showtime? I don't have that? And it's
I went and got fucking cable. But no, that's a myth.
That's actually gonna be my mid today. That's like a
cable is more expensive. I'm paying seven five dollars With cable,
(02:57):
I can cancel everything else, Like how many how many apps?
Y'all trying to add me to death? Okay, and when
you add on them bitches up, it's more. Thank but like,
we gotta go back, We need to go back. But
then this is the problem, right if you go if
you do all this other ship, there's so much it
exclusive to streaming that it's like then, which you want
more podcast it? Or do you want the Disney Plus ship?
(03:18):
Do you want the Netflix ship? Do you want the
HBO Max ship? Well you can do you can, Like
millennials have created a problem. Strip will look striminals as
the industry college criminal. You share the logins and boom,
that's all it takes. Just spread the wealth between two people,
So don't want to have any shoulder that. But again,
(03:38):
the affair, I'm guessing it's about white people having an affair. Yeah,
it's it's literally just white people fucking and crying and
it's beautiful. Is it for you? The shot in front
or you're like, damn, I guess it's not all that good.
So when you said fucking and crying, white people just said,
well that's redundant. It's like, yeah, yeah, you mean sick know,
(04:00):
being white is great, like you know what I mean,
there's nothing that's gonna trick me into feeling like, oh,
look at these white people being said in a Maserati's
and I'm gonna be like, man, you know what, it
is great to be black here. And I can say,
as a person that didn't grow up with money, we
watched that show to them like these aren't real fucking problems,
perfect bullshit. Yeah, well I think there's something a little too.
(04:23):
I think as people become more aware of like the
disparity and wealth and things like that, these are our
new like punching bags. We get to laugh, like laugh
at it. Used to be like shows that were like
characters are relatable, but now sort of like, yeah, look
at these wealthy motherfucker Yeah, let's laugh at this ship. Well,
I think also it's triggering to you because you're not
dealing with these fucking problems, you know what I mean, Like,
(04:44):
I don't gotta worry about watching big little lives and
being like that's happened to me, and people watch this
four women murder. It's too real. It was this. I
want to like the show, but there's a lather. It's
walking a fine line. It's just very triggering. Okay, because
I also ran over a woman in the middle of
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the night and switch places. My husband flips out. There's
this hot Nazi who beats this hot lady. He's just
hot me a little bit. You know, he's so high.
I heard he raped a lady in the neighborhood. But
we're all letting him just be here. It's like it's
(05:26):
like a heave an infinity pools. What are we going?
I can't say anything about this guy. Um, and then
your myth, I'm guessing that was your myth. Yeah, that
cable is not cheap. Did you do it? Okay, so
did you do a side by side analysis adding up
the things that you are paying for or and be real,
keep it funky. Are you how many of them other
(05:49):
things are you actually paying for? Do you have your
own Netflix? No? Okay? Do you pay for Hulu? Do
you have Hulu? I do pay for Hulu okay? And
I have sides? Yes, Oh you have what you call
and Hulu parasites Hulu sites. Yeah, who are siphoning my
Hulu as well? You leave it to them? Or did they?
I logged in on TVs and they never unlogged out,
(06:10):
you know, And that's your fault. That's a scam. I appreciate. Yeah,
that's parasites. How pennies as house though, and be like, oh,
let me log out real quick before I leave? Like that,
that is a weird. Look, you know what you do?
You go on your account and then you find the
device it's connected to and log out from there you go.
That's also that's what you do to an X. Yeah
(06:31):
you know, I guess. So it's different, right, So these
are friendly rules, but they're friends. I can't log out
of my Hulu. Then you know what, You're gonna pull
up at my house. We gotta fight, we gotta have
a fist. You want to name some of these people.
I want to watch people fight over Yeah, that actually
I would like to watch that if that's happening out here,
bit out here. I'm just holding my baby like you're
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salking on my album? How much you watching? Well? I
need to offset the fall that murdership with some baking
show ship. I'm sorry you don't like that. You need
come back faith, Um that would that would be interesting.
But in our minds that's how we do play out
these scenarios and fuck, you know, I might have to
fight them because I locked out just people walking. I'm like,
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what's happening? Will I think it's Hulu or netflick. I'll
come back. I don't think they're actually going to fight,
but I'm gonna. I'm gonna. I'm gonna wait it out.
They're yelling from the balcony, so yeah, yeah. What is
a myth? What something people think is true? You know
to be false. I don't know if we've talked about this,
(07:40):
I hope not. The cats at Disneyland, the cats at Disneyland.
I don't know if we have talked about the cats
at disney you know about the cats of people would
like these cats that you see the hordes of cats
who live at Disneyland and come out at night. Carl Cat,
the cats I live Disneyland. Yes, that's where I know.
The mything, but it's a it's a myth to a
lot of people, but it's real. There are cats at
(08:01):
Disneyland and they that's how they keep all the rodents
and everything out of there, and they roam the park
at night and not no, not, they don't keep that
before the park opens. They run off. They have their
own area, but catch one because they're actual, because they're like,
I'm not trying to be so what's while. You'll see
one that just kind of stayed and they'll be like
in a bush and they'll just stay there all day.
(08:22):
But you think, like, wouldn't they be also eating people?
Like if they are feeding the cats, like if they
see a cat, then the catching the habits of like eating.
I don't know, but some people say they heard them.
They know to go at like six am every morning
to an area and then they'll come back at night.
Oh maybe they train them with like really great treats
at that place. You've never heard about the cats at
(08:47):
disney I don't know. A lot that's okay, but no,
this is news to me, Yeah, the cats at Disney.
The only things I know is Club thirty three. That's
like the yet know, but I know. I just find
out I have a line you do get to I
found so yeah, I know somebody who knows somebody who's
who got them in the hookup wasn't strong enough for
(09:07):
them be like again, yeah, I barely know them. So
do you want to go? I don't know, actually want
to go to you? Guys? Did love what I like
the last prestigious invite only parties Club thirty three. I
feel like Magic Castle is like three steps below. The
(09:28):
Magic Castle is like trying to get into fucking Discovery Zone.
You can it doesn't feel like in the last ten
years it's become so easy to get into Magic Castle
in the last ten years. They but good for that.
I mean it's awesome. I love it. I've had the
luck of a friend of mine who have noticed is
like preschool. Their father was like a founding performer there,
so like my homies would act wild out of pocket
(09:50):
in there, like not like immoral or whatever, just be
like get sad drunk sometimes and other times pop like
you should stop serving him. But like the reverence they
treat them with like we're gonna give you a ride home.
I'm like, dude, what this is like the one bar
they drive you home rather get the funk out. But yeah, yeah,
so I'm a Disney guy. But but well, I don't
I know the same thing that you have to be
(10:12):
invited like by, but that that pool of people is
even much smaller like and also I know like some
of the drawings are like they move and ship inside there,
and I know it's one of the few places that
has like a full on, full alcohol bar in Disneyland,
and there's like I don't think I'm wrong Disney Hive
(10:36):
people who listen to show already know. I think there's
some sort of super hook up where you can they've
converted waltz old office like you can sleep in the park.
Like there's a swite. Oh yeah, that Cinderella's uh Cinderella's Sweet.
Is it next to Walt's office? Now? I think it's
in the Magic in the Magic Castle. There is like
there's also something about Walt's office and I can't remember whatever.
(10:58):
Well his his office used to be on Main Street,
Disney Main Street. Um, well, zi gang uh if you're
the club thirty three hook up. Come on let him yo, wow,
if you want to pull up with some legends. Okay
about thirty three, and just said Fidelio, what happened? What happened? Yeah,
(11:20):
you taser burn you got his ribs? Wait? Was Fidelio
that password they used for the We were just saying,
my yesterday is having a moment very much a resurgence.
Um now that we know that rich people really do
that ship except far far worse. What is something from
(11:44):
your search history that is revealing about who you are? Um?
FedEx office near me? I don't have a printer. Nobody does?
How many people? It's weird once you get done with college. Right,
that was the last time I was like, I need
a fucking printer. I don't have good luck with printers,
like I swear, like they always just they don't work. Right.
(12:05):
I got a printer and it stopped working and I'm like,
I can't do this, and You're like, I don't want
to deal with it. Yeah, I just it was Amazon Prime.
So I just said today's billion dollar idea because we've
always just given these out on the daily, like Uber
for printers. You know that's that's Yeah, we do it's
(12:25):
called Homie with a printer. Yeah. What you do is
you pull up the pull up the app and you
look for the Homie with the printer. You email the very.
It's a very. It's an encrypted attachment, so they can't
be duplicated. Well, it's gonna get weird because invest or something.
Yeah yeah, yeah, we're still in our first round hit
us uh and it's going to be quarter owners will Yeah. Yeah,
(12:52):
we go on shark like sharks. Okay for funding. We
have a hundred dollars we're looking for. We're looking for
a million dollar investment for a one percent stake in
our company. Like this is a million dollar company. Yes,
well it's called Homie with a printer. You every day
somebody with a printer just for the printer. I didn't
full disclosure. I never dated this person for the printer.
(13:14):
I thought about going on another date with because they
had a full on office section of their apartment that
you had already installed on your computer. So like what
is that? Yeah, I'm gonna put that put that printing
driver on my computer connected to the WiFi automatically. My
wife is a printer queen. She makes sure that we
(13:34):
always have a printer's that's a keeper. That's why I'm
not saying that's exactly why I married her. But you know,
if this gives me to something about picture, I'm gonna
tell my partner her majesty and be like, you know,
you know, Jack Bofe got a printer here single at
FedEx office getting hit on by the tech like you
(13:55):
need hope to hit starts. I wish I got attention
from like someone who actually worked there. Yeah, you starting
it for some free printing. They're like, I feel like
we just go on these dates so you can get
like free printing at FedEx office. Doesn't my employee discount
Like no, baby, Yeah, because someone has to get off
to it has to be that. Someone has to be
(14:16):
into it. I love printing your ship. There's somebody freaks
in the world, and I don't care what size attachments
you're saying, I'll print everything you want. The coldly didn't
pretty interesting. I feel like page more Products would have
adopted the model where it's basically like gouging, where they're like, yeah,
(14:38):
we give you the printer for a really good price,
but then the ink costs like hundreds of dollars um.
But you can um again from Amazon, you can get
off brand Inc. But that's only if you have a
printer that works, right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a good band,
Brand Inc. Yeah that sounds something like a cool like
it sounds like a band. Like there's Murder Inc. Or whatever.
(15:01):
There you go. What is something you think is underrated? Oh?
I was I got him so often and I was
gonna say murder, but like I need an outsource for that.
Anybody that wants printer cartridges for a dollar dollar And
this was like, um, the DMX would be like, but
(15:22):
it's not. What is something you think is overrated? Dogma?
Dogma the movie? No, the movie, but like Kevin Smith's
must overrated film do the portrayal of the Gold. Actually,
you know what, I kind of enjoyed the film. I
think they could have gone further. But when I say dogma,
I mean like like rules and regulations when it comes
(15:45):
to spirituality, like this is right, this is wrong, one
size fits all, otherwise you're going to hell. So anyway,
like you know, to me, that's that's overrated, and like
I'm not you know, I don't really do organized religion,
but I was raised Muslim. I'd love to see like
a Muslim perspective from like someone who was raised this way,
(16:05):
but like you know, doesn't really sort of you know,
aligne with organized religion. But um, yeah, I actually went
to Mecca Um in Saudi Arabia with my parents because
you know, I think they wanted, you know, to save
my soul or whatever. And um, god, damn empty ritual man,
(16:27):
or you have to do this and like I have
a lot of baby hair as you can see, so
you have to cover everything the standard of decency in
Saudi Arabia and I'm not gonna like also say Saudi
Arabia and Islam are the same thing. It's like, but
that's where yeah, well Saudi Arabia it's like it's running,
but you know it's it's the patriarchy. But like out
(16:48):
in the open American brands, yeah exactly. So, um, you
know everyone was sort of like, oh, your baby hair's
falling out. Women would come up to me trying to
fix my thing because you know, like it was like forehead,
clar have those edges laid honey, No, you can't have
the edges have a pull back if I have them
laid on my forehead. Oh my god, that's so scandalous.
I might as well be walking around with my titties out.
(17:11):
What was the at what point where you sort of
as as a child, is that when you sort of
realized organized religion isn't for me, because it's always interesting,
Like I my parents weren't really religious, my grandparents were,
and I went to like Lutheran and Catholic schools and
at a certain point you kind of like look around like,
I don't know if this for me. I mean, what
you are doing. I think it was my first introduction
to sort of like a connection to like you know,
(17:34):
that sort of energy. But like so that part was cool,
but like all the rules, I know, I was like,
this is like I don't want to like do this whatever.
It bunched up against your like sort of spirit as
like a young teenager. But that was sort of my
window to like, you know, if you're like like really
going through something, you're just like you know, you need
you want to reach out to something. That was sort
(17:55):
of my window. But I was like I was the
kind of kid who was like questioned everything because if
it's the truth, why not? Yeah? You know, so all right,
Joe Rogan, so you're Rogan, get me all right, you know,
I'd love to of all the profound ship that you
(18:17):
just said. My question is baby hair. Those are the
little hairs come out wearing your hair is pulled back.
It's like these little hairs that just do not grow
any longer. Then you can sort of like comb down
and do you like like Chili from um teals, Yeah,
very she her baby hair is just on point. All Right,
(18:38):
We're going to take a quick break and we'll be
right back. And we're back. So there's this BuzzFeed article
that that last story about Netflix sort of allowing us
(18:58):
to speed up how we view their content. This buzz
made me think of there's this BuzzFeed article talking about
how the two thousand tens broke time as it exists
in our brain. And they're just talking about all the
different things, like you kind of hear this all the
time now right like time has melted. My brain has melted,
(19:19):
Donald Trump, It's melted my brain. I feel like that
happened four weeks ago, but it was only two days ago.
Or you know, when we're like, didn't the impeachment things
start like last week? It's been five weeks, right, and
in the twenty months, so they're pointing out that all this,
all these things that change how we just interact with
(19:41):
our world, like came out in the last like since
the I guess they say, in the twenty months between
Hillary Clinton's campaign announcement and Trump's inauguration. Uh, everything from
Apple Music to HBO Now to Apple News launched or
relaunched the Amazon Echo, Google Home, Apple Watch hit the market. Uh.
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Publishers established the current form and tone of the news
push alerts that you received. Facebook launched a live streaming
function uh, and then d prioritized it when people started
killing people on it. UH. Instagram launched the Instagram Stories.
Twitter introduced the quote tweet option and has transitioned into
(20:26):
a like algorithmically driven version. Yeah, rather than like real time,
rather than real time, you're getting what they want you
to read, right, what? Yeah, what they think you're going
to enjoy and continue to read? Like, what's the most
sticky thing? And this is causing what they want you
to read? Write there's also the thing you're saying, but
(20:47):
and I cynical, But yes, I think would be dumb
not to be cynical that they're also pushing certain things
in there. Right, what do you mean like just suppressing
things that what would you mean? I just think like
like four or five months ago, I unfollowed everyone as this,
yes exactly, and you realize, well, it's also funny you
(21:10):
realize who your friends are like really addicted to it
because they're like, yeah, what the funk dude, And you're like, well,
look it wasn't just you. But I realized that I
still have a feed showing me stuff, showing me tweets,
and I'm not following anybody right right. So that's when
I was like, this is they're telling I mean to
(21:31):
a certain degree, they know what I want to see
and what I've liked and stuff, but also throw it
off and just like everything sometimes. So but it likes
my tweets, I'll do like like a lot of yours.
You're just thank you. Sometimes I don't lock him just
because I'm like, he's getting cocky. He's getting cocky with
these one tweets a week. What's he doing? Enough cool
(21:52):
it two weeks in a row? That is what? So yeah,
I'm enough cold brew, my man. The so is that
sort of just sort of talking about the idea that
because because even Facebook, right that timeline or whatever the funk.
It was called before timeline, your wall or whatever, felt
like a real time thing of everyone posting things and
now that because I knew what my friends were up
(22:15):
to at that moment. Yeah, and then so now because
that sort of melted away, that's just has like this
knock on thing of like when is now right? When
is earlier? Yeah? Like when is yeah? I mean the
A good example they were talking about on the press
Box podcast was that Rolling Stone article that everybody was
(22:36):
up in arms about the list of the fifty best singers, singers,
rivers or whatever. Uh, and everybody was like, what the
funk Bob Jones number one? This is sort of bullshit
and uh, people were like weighing in, and then somebody
pointed out, that's just like the article was from two
thousand eight, right that everybody was getting when he was
unquestionably the best singer then was so good. But it's
(22:59):
like it's just like people, I don't know, we well, yeah,
things pop up because yeah, yeah, we think we're interacting
with things that are happening. What's that one tweet that
keeps getting this shrimp fried rice? It goes viral like
every week someone someone writes the same tweet like you're
(23:20):
telling me the shrimp fried this rice. Yeah, and it'll joke. Yeah,
it'll go viral. I'll see it once awake, somebody else
retweeting it into my face and it's somebody else wrote it.
I think it's become a meme because of the fact
that people keep writing it. And now I've I've heard
(23:41):
it by like I've heard like thirty different versions of it. Yeah, well,
yeah that they did do some takes that reprieved. There's
some good ones. Yeah. Yeah, And it's like every time
they're at the end of a football game or something
like a championship, I always retweet Africa is getting so
many t shirts it right after the sports thing. And
(24:02):
let's say everyone does that joke every time, but it
gets retweeted bazillion times. I mean yeah, Like two people
invented the light bulb at the same time, like in
two separate cities, completely independently of each other, because that
idea was just in the air. So that is happening constant.
Until they did that, no one knew how or when
(24:22):
people got ideas though, right, that's exactly right. And then
since that time, the same light bulbs have been popping
on over people's heads. I've had a candle moment. Just
I got mine when I lived in Silver, Like we
got it replaced to an Edison bulb. It's pretty cool
when I get an idea. How much does the procedure cost?
(24:44):
I actually have been admiring that Edison bulbs are everywhere
too much. Yeah, it's that in the vertical fence or
the horizontal face, the gentrifire fence. That's that in Nediseony,
We're like, you know they have Edison bulbs in that house.
The entire interior is in Edison bulb and the same
back and there's a cardboard antler head yes, buckhead made
out of cardboard. Yes. Yeah, So I guess I didn't
(25:07):
fully appreciate how much of this had changed in the
last decade. Like, yeah, it really is something else though, too,
Like when you realize how we used to take in
media or what we thought was even social media at
the time. I went from oh, all this is in
real time to now like it could be from whatever,
(25:27):
And like how subtly that like affects you too, because
Instagram goes from me a thing like yo, this is
telling me what everyone is taking a photo of right
now too. This has been happening the last five fucking
days on Instagram. Yeah, and then I'm like, is and
you have there is a version of you that exists
on social media where they know so much about you
that Yeah, like you were saying, Billy, you can stop
(25:49):
following everybody, it doesn't matter. They still know what you're
gonna like. Yeah, yeah, we exist in black mirror more now.
And they also know what you This is the thing
I've noticed. They know what you will respond to in
a negative way and put it in front of you. Yeah. Yeah,
because they'll know you'll that quote tweet did and be
(26:09):
like you see his fucking ship right here, right and
because that all they wants the interaction. So they're gonna
show you stuff where you're like, why am I seeing? Oh?
Because you want me to be mad, and you know
I'll react. So that's that's the manipulation part I'm talking about.
Whether Yeah, for sure. All right, let's uh, let's check
in with what Bill Murray has been up to. Oh God,
(26:31):
God bless him. This guy is every I think he did.
I think god pretty good. He's got the only form
of alcoholism that results in an amazing show business career
rights help. Well you always hear these, you know. It
sort of goes along the theme of Bill Murray of
like he's always popping up at a random party. He's
(26:52):
popping up at this place. He's serving drinks at this bar,
and now this is the thing that's mounting on the
field during the Cubs game's Bill Murray like, I think
he's kind of drinking um. So he was on Amy
Schumer's podcast recently and said that he like he applied
for a job recently. They're like what what what what
(27:14):
are you talking about. He's like, like an actual job,
and he said, quote, I did fill out an application
at PF Chang's at the Atlanta Airport because I think
that's one of the great places. And they were like
okay when they asked like what do you mean, Like
what did you apply for? He just goes, you know,
just to work there. It looks like the best time.
(27:35):
So this so then like the PF change, Twitter was
like you're hired, bro, But I don't know if uh.
It's so funny Like when I think about Bill Murray,
like is he's just at that point he's so bored
that he's like kind of being like, Yo, that would
be kind of tight. Let me just work at PF Chang's.
Is this all stunt? Is he that lonely? Does he
just want that? Like he just likes to see the
(27:56):
surprise on people's faces when they're like, oh my god,
Bill Murray just gave me this orange chicken. I think
he just he does whatever he wants because there's no
there's no restriction. I think that's part of I think
there is, Like he's probably just a really fun drunk um.
But I also think that knowing enough famous people without
(28:18):
even just because they're they're also human, they start seeing
what the limitations are. That's why a lot of them
get in trouble. That's why that it's impressive when some
people are just normal and famous, where like I don't
know what they're doing, but it's evil or something, you know,
spail or something. Are you so well adjusted? Yeah? But
well it's a lot of work to be that well adjusted.
But I think he started he started pressing them, like
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what are my limits? Like I can go to all
these secret rooms, I'm invited to all the Hollywood ship,
Bill Murray, Can I walk into can I walk off?
Can I walk over to this person's table why they're eating,
and grab a biscuit from their plate and eat it
and put it back out and then say no, I
don't believe you, yes, and walk off without anybody trying
(29:04):
to fight me. And then no one tried to fight him,
so it just he just kept escalating it. Yeah, he's
just gonna get Yeah, he's gonna hit pedestrians with his
car or something, well probably until hit something with a
golf car. Sure. I think he's got enough people around
him that they'll be like, you can't drive anymore? Right,
(29:25):
I think he'll be like cool limitations finally, right, Yeah,
just waiting until somebody. Yeah, that's all he wants, is
I just want someone to tell me no. It would
be nice that that guy in charge of the PF
change is like, hey Bill, you gotta put the things in.
You've got to marry the He's like, thank you, Now
I don't sucks. Hey, Well before I could just do
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all the drugs and everyone loved me. William, William, can
you come back here? Yeah, you're putting hoisten sauce on
the wrong dishes, man, Yeah you're not the guy is
there for a reason? You should know how to assemble
these dishes. He's just, this is the best most fun
I've had in years. This shouldn't be fun. This is
PF change Williams. I feel you're doing the job wrong.
If this is fun, so free, there's no buns. But
(30:11):
he famously like he doesn't have representation, right, Like he
doesn't have a s's a voicemail. Yeah, I think he
has a phone number. You leave a voicemail and then
he I'm sure there's that's like the legend, but I'm
sure there's like just knowing how all of it works there,
but he doesn't have there's a lawyer or fucking somebody
a lawyer but has to be. But he's typically the
(30:33):
one who fields his own call, like he wants to
call back or not, because he listens to the voicemails
where people are like, hey, we want you to play
f DR things like cool I did that, we want
you to play general PF. He was drunk, right, It's
how he ended up in the Guarfield movie because he
thought that the Joel Cohen who wrote it was from
(30:55):
the Cohen brothers and not just a random dude. Uh
So he really did think that. Yeah, that's he explained
to somebody in an interview, he was like, yeah, I
really regret doing the Garfield movie. I thought that Joel
Cohen was was the Cohen brother. That's an alcoholic thing
to do, and someone that used to drink quite a bit.
(31:19):
That is, I recognize what that was. Like, I thought
that was something else, and then I was too far
in to admit, Yeah, some people are just really really
good at being drunk and well and then even years
later that's also a drunk thing to do, is admit
it exactly used to like I would feel so much
shame about that, Like I would never tell anybody, I
(31:41):
would quit my career. And he just like goes and
does a Rolling Stone interview with The movie that dude
wrote is pretty interesting. He wrote a toy story first
of all, Monster masin movie Money Talks, if you remember
with Charlie Sheen and Chris Talker, a movie when he goes,
I'm sorry your wife is fat p h A t
pretty hot intent um, Goodbye, Lever, Cheaper by the Dozen.
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Both Garfield movies Evan Almighty, Daddy Day, camp Alms Controls
the Secret Chamber. The kind of stopped after the Last Godfather,
which is a South Korean comedy film. Um interestingly got
into sounds like he made his money. Yeah after Toy Story.
I don't know how you go back to work. Well
(32:24):
they you see it sounds like he had a contract
that he had to feel because those are all big
studio movies that make no sense as like an artist,
if you're just a writer and you're like, I wrote,
Toy Story is my first one. I could retire, but
then I have to give him the money back, So
now I have to writ cheaper by the dozen. And
Toy Story is like animated movies don't pay writers ship
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because it's not a it's not a guild thing animated movies.
It is now it is because it wasn't in the
nine No, it was not nod Toy Story. And he's like,
um am, I see it. Sorry, it was a buyout. Yeah.
We talked about how the writers of The Lion King
didn't get for that movie being like a multibillion dollar
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success anything for that Aladdin, they didn't get shipped for that,
at least they don't. There's not reminders of it everywhere. Yeah,
you know who can remember those films anyways? But Jamie, first,
we like to ask our guests, What is something from
your search history that's revealing about who you are? Titanic Mexico? Oh,
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where they shot it? I did you know that? Because
my mom she's she's a film critic. She went, she
did a set visit, I remember at the time, and
she came back. She's like, James Cameroom, he's making a
Titanic movie and he's a really cool set. She talks like,
but I remember seeing the photo like why Mexico, and
(33:50):
I didn't realize they just had that like little bay
that they shot James Cameron. James Cameron was asking himself
why Mexico after a while because there was a hurricane
tore the roof off of where one of the sound
stages that they guys know all this these facts about
the production of Titanic is totally passive, and my uh
(34:12):
guilty pleasure is sadly movie reviews. I just like read
every movie review and like behind the scenes, like like
that's what I did growing up like you. It's odd. Yeah,
I realized for you Titanic is so important that somehow
I didn't know these old guys like, yeah, do that
(34:32):
about the weather from both very very are you thinking
about visiting the spot where it all happened. No. I
was so, I've I've been uh working on a show
(34:55):
for the past month or so, and I was writing
a lot of Billy Zane specific jokes that were then,
for a number of reasons, brought back to me because
they were not maybe not historically accurate enough about the
very specific production of Titanic. I got some notes from
(35:17):
the Zane camp that we're like, well, you know, this
joke can't be said because actually were filming in Mexico,
and so there if there were any ghosts haunting the
set of Titanic, the ghosts from people who were in
Mexico or Mexican themselves. So we actually need to rewrite
on this because and you're like, idiots, nobody knows that
(35:37):
it was shot in Mexico, and then we don't people
close to me right away that night of the show,
and I'm like, I'm really disappointed in Jamie, Jamie Mexico.
Where was the joke originally? Where did you think it was? Well,
(35:59):
I was writing it, okay, maybe revealing too much just
the location where I just will keep it simple without
revealing the humor of it. The No, I mean it's
so I was writing it as if they were actually
like goes from the actual Titanic. That was I was
thinking more movie centric. I wasn't thinking about the extending
universe of the production of it. But then it was
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they were like, well, think about put yourself in insane
ship goes what he has been seen. I think he's
going to be able to believe this line if well
he knows, will he come to your show? What? Well
He's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, sorry, guys, We're all right,
We're back. We had to cut a little bit because
Jamie got too deep into her n D a very
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very compelling stuff that we just learned. There's a picture
of Billy Zane on the rat party cake. Okay, have
you ever met anybody who didn't know that Titanic was
a real boat until the movie, or like thought it
was just a movie? Yeah? Yeah, which is I want
to I want to live? I was like, wait a second.
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I love I love when people don't because it's like,
I mean, you can't be like that mad because the Titanic,
like it's a big thing, but it's not like you know,
I feel like you don't lose your perspective of the
entire world by just never having He's like, you're not ignorant.
It was that's just a weird knowledge gap. That was
a joke in my family about my my mom's mom
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was born two days before the Titanic sank as old
as the Titanic round like that. I went to I
Saw Judy. I saw an afternoon screening of Judy a
couple of weeks ago. There was someone in the crowd.
It was like an older crowd. It was like noon
on a Sunday, and there was someone in the crowd
who didn't know that Judy Garland died or like died young,
(37:55):
because there's there is not a great movie, but I
hope she's okay. Well at the end, you know, like
at the end of like a biopic, it says like,
you know, two weeks later, Judy Garland died at the
age of forty seven, and someone in the audience was like,
they were so shocked. I was really enjoying the film,
and they're like, I thought she was going to pull through.
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I was like, how would you think that? But they
were just really, I mean they were visibly like optimism
and I mean to that point, James Cameron's Titanic does
not include like a part at the end where it's
like the that really happened what you just saw or
anything like you got to remind them totally happens everything
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except the placement of the stars and that dude pinging
off the propeller. All right, let's take a quick break
and we'll be right back. And we're back. Let's talk
(39:03):
about the president. More bad news for the president. Yeah,
he Well, there was a fundraiser on Wednesday night in
d C that was held at the Trump Hotel in
d C. And apparently like Trump went up and did
like an hour of like I guess, mixture of complaining
(39:25):
almost mixture of complaining about Democrats or Mitt Romney and
also telling dumb fucking jokes were like kind of half
roasting people, and then also patting himself on the back
for killing uhvoo a back daddy um and then was
basically saying that he would called Representative John Joyce's wife
quote a looker, and called the a shorter Congressman Chuck
(39:49):
Fleishman a little guy, and some other stuff. But the
thing that really stuck out of people is that he
was taking Steve Scalise, who was the minority whip in
the house. He was involved in it. He was shot.
He was a victim of a shooting in seen at
that congressional baseball game. Um or the practice for the
congressional baseball team. Um. When he was talking about him.
This is what Trump said. Um. This is from Politico.
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They say the President reflected on the shooting of Steve
Scalise a few years ago and remarked how tough the
Louisiana Republican is, and Trump quipped he wouldn't recommend getting
shot as a weight loss plan. Um. Trump also said
Scalise's wife quote cried her eyes out when I met
her at the hospital that faithful day. I mean, not
many wives would react that way to a tragedy. I
(40:32):
know mine wouldn't. I mean, so, even if he's like
trying to do the my wife she's a ax, always
always getting mad at me type thing, it's still starting
from a baseline that not many wives would cry when
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their husband was shot. Well, based on his experience, that
would probably make a lot of sense. No one would
be said, God, that's so that's so dark. That's so
many layers like, oh, he thinks he's like you know,
guys like you know, wives don't care about you because
you probably abuse them, and they're all like just sullen
(41:13):
all the time, isn't that? Am I? All? Right? Guys?
Like can you imagine him walking into school usea's hospital
room and like it's just like what's her problem? Like
his wife period? Like what she got her period? Wife
(41:34):
is critical condition? What the fun is that you never
do that? Yeah, my tear ducks don't work. Oh that's right,
that's right. Yeah, I don't know. It was a very
It's funny when you see these moments or like all
the Trump families just say these things that are revealing
about their mental state or like how they see the
world and things like that. So like even when Don Jr.
(41:56):
Was like I think recently he said I wish my
name was he was on handed, he said, I wish
my name was Hunter Biden, so I can make millions
of dollars off my dad, right, Okay? And even what
was the other one when he said, like when you
when the father is powerful and you're the son, they
own you. That's how it works. Like they just had
(42:17):
these moments of clarity that are just so interesting. Father
is powerful, Like yeah, I mean, there's no doubt that
their relationship behind the scenes makes uh Logan roy look
like fucking Mr. Rogers, Like Trump is just probably so
mean to them. Oh absolutely. I mean you can tell
even what we said, the way he was interacting with
(42:40):
children and costumes. He probably does not interact with children.
He doesn't like it because like I don't know that
you can barely talk to them about the stock market. Yeah,
like he just met his kids when they turned eighteen
like that kind of yeah. It's like, yeah, Ivanka is like,
this is your new granddaughter. He goes, oh wow, yeah,
do you know Obama is a Muslim? She's not responding.
(43:02):
She's two days old. That I don't know. It's probably
a fucking lib. There's that story about how I think
Avonka tells it, like about how he taught them to
be competitive. But it's like basically when they would go
skiing together as a family, he would like attack them
(43:22):
with his poles and it was like first one down
would get love. Basically, I love, I love, I do love.
A competition for a parent's love, I know that is fun.
Just like openly encouraging that is so dark you can do,
but that like that, you know, crosses socioeconomic lines, like
(43:43):
poor parents make you fight for their love too, and
that's also fun. That's awesome. It's a time honor tradition.
My dad used to do a game with us called
poops poop Stick. It's that upright Citizen's Brigade sketch. Yeah,
my dad's a huge Yeah, no, this is like a
long time. But no, my dad would like have us,
(44:05):
like me and my cousins run around until one of
us because he had to always pick up the dog's
crap and could never find it. And so you'd have
us run around until one of us stepped in the
poop and then he would he would get the poop
stick and he would scrape the show off. Yeah, and
then and then you get extra snack at lunch, right, Yeah,
it was pretty smart. So you were logan roy, So
(44:28):
you were trying to find it, like as a kid,
do you remember like trying to run around and yeah,
you're like, you want you want to step in the
ship because then you get extra love and snack. It
wasn't enough to be like I found it here, No
need to dirty your shoe, you can just pick it
up here. No, he'd waved the stick at the front
of the scrape it off, ringing the dinner bell with
(44:49):
the poop so nasty. It was a pointy stick though,
and got it out. Don't sweep in my backyard like
a mine sweeper dog poops. I didn't know about this
genius move just seeing the kids outside, they'll find it.
It's like it's like a weird AI hack where it's
like I use children or smells like dogshit all the time.
(45:12):
The reason I got mind swooping for the poop is
so that my kids don't track it in the house. Well,
that's a classical approach to I'm not thinking for d
chess Man, you really need to experience some kind of
paradigm shift. Yeah, all right, that's gonna do it. For
this week's weekly Zeitgeist. Please like and review the show.
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He needs your validation, folks. I hope you're having a
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Si
Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of The
Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from
this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment last stravaganza.
Uh yeah, So, without further ado, here is the Weekly Zeitgeist.
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Well what do you think it's that's underrated? Underrated? Okay, guys,
so call back to that opening that I did. I
know a lot of you probably don't know that song. Yeah,
that's fucked up, because that's what that's my underrated right now?
Sad rich White People TV. It's right now. It was
(00:46):
called independent cinema for a long time. What you're talking about,
it's reached mainstream and I'm here for so what what?
What is this genre? Is this succession session? It's the affair, um,
It's there's about to be a new Jahnt coming out
the Morning Show. Just savage white people content where I
(01:07):
gotta like, watch you being sad even though you got
everything you ever wanted. They have to make every like
even like Judd Apatow Maybes like all you have to
make the family not have to worry about money so
that they can have emotional problems because because when you
don't have money, you don't have time to be like,
(01:29):
why aren't you paying enough attention to me? Because you're like,
you know why, that was kind of emotional problems because
like we we don't have any money and you're not around.
I know why you're not paying attention to me. Where
it's like like the what's the Pretty Little Liars or
not pretty? That show is goddamn ridiculous, the Monterey California
(01:51):
where you're like, yeah, no one there has any problems, right,
So that way you can really I get what you're
saying because most people who have. Then it becomes a
completely different show about the struggle of people were working
versus like the show rose is about. There's like she
yells it Dan a lot for just not having money,
which Roseanne not having money becomes the main issue when
you don't have money, which is how life works. Yeah,
(02:14):
so we go to rich we can talk about how
these people are completely emotionally ill equipped to have functioning relationship,
to talk about the p t A that can be
a big deal. There's literally a scene like four pta
scenes in the last season A big little life. I
just didn't feel fulfilled in my sex life. I mean, yes,
he sucked me four times a week, but I need
someone to me five times. It's like, God, I hear you,
I hear you. And to think that he that birken
(02:37):
bag was used, it was secondhand. Um, what is what's
the affairs on showtime? I don't have that? And it's
I went and got fucking cable. But no, that's a myth.
That's actually gonna be my mid today. That's like a
cable is more expensive. I'm paying seven five dollars With cable,
(02:57):
I can cancel everything else, Like how many how many apps?
Y'all trying to add me to death? Okay, and when
you add on them bitches up, it's more. Thank but like,
we gotta go back, We need to go back. But
then this is the problem, right if you go if
you do all this other ship, there's so much it
exclusive to streaming that it's like then, which you want
more podcast it? Or do you want the Disney Plus ship?
(03:18):
Do you want the Netflix ship? Do you want the
HBO Max ship? Well you can do you can, Like
millennials have created a problem. Strip will look striminals as
the industry college criminal. You share the logins and boom,
that's all it takes. Just spread the wealth between two people,
So don't want to have any shoulder that. But again,
(03:38):
the affair, I'm guessing it's about white people having an affair. Yeah,
it's it's literally just white people fucking and crying and
it's beautiful. Is it for you? The shot in front
or you're like, damn, I guess it's not all that good.
So when you said fucking and crying, white people just said,
well that's redundant. It's like, yeah, yeah, you mean sick know,
(04:00):
being white is great, like you know what I mean,
there's nothing that's gonna trick me into feeling like, oh,
look at these white people being said in a Maserati's
and I'm gonna be like, man, you know what, it
is great to be black here. And I can say,
as a person that didn't grow up with money, we
watched that show to them like these aren't real fucking problems,
perfect bullshit. Yeah, well I think there's something a little too.
(04:23):
I think as people become more aware of like the
disparity and wealth and things like that, these are our
new like punching bags. We get to laugh, like laugh
at it. Used to be like shows that were like
characters are relatable, but now sort of like, yeah, look
at these wealthy motherfucker Yeah, let's laugh at this ship. Well,
I think also it's triggering to you because you're not
dealing with these fucking problems, you know what I mean, Like,
(04:44):
I don't gotta worry about watching big little lives and
being like that's happened to me, and people watch this
four women murder. It's too real. It was this. I
want to like the show, but there's a lather. It's
walking a fine line. It's just very triggering. Okay, because
I also ran over a woman in the middle of
(05:05):
the night and switch places. My husband flips out. There's
this hot Nazi who beats this hot lady. He's just
hot me a little bit. You know, he's so high.
I heard he raped a lady in the neighborhood. But
we're all letting him just be here. It's like it's
(05:26):
like a heave an infinity pools. What are we going?
I can't say anything about this guy. Um, and then
your myth, I'm guessing that was your myth. Yeah, that
cable is not cheap. Did you do it? Okay, so
did you do a side by side analysis adding up
the things that you are paying for or and be real,
keep it funky. Are you how many of them other
(05:49):
things are you actually paying for? Do you have your
own Netflix? No? Okay? Do you pay for Hulu? Do
you have Hulu? I do pay for Hulu okay? And
I have sides? Yes, Oh you have what you call
and Hulu parasites Hulu sites. Yeah, who are siphoning my
Hulu as well? You leave it to them? Or did they?
I logged in on TVs and they never unlogged out,
(06:10):
you know, And that's your fault. That's a scam. I appreciate. Yeah,
that's parasites. How pennies as house though, and be like, oh,
let me log out real quick before I leave? Like that,
that is a weird. Look, you know what you do?
You go on your account and then you find the
device it's connected to and log out from there you go.
That's also that's what you do to an X. Yeah
(06:31):
you know, I guess. So it's different, right, So these
are friendly rules, but they're friends. I can't log out
of my Hulu. Then you know what, You're gonna pull
up at my house. We gotta fight, we gotta have
a fist. You want to name some of these people.
I want to watch people fight over Yeah, that actually
I would like to watch that if that's happening out here,
bit out here. I'm just holding my baby like you're
(06:56):
salking on my album? How much you watching? Well? I
need to offset the fall that murdership with some baking
show ship. I'm sorry you don't like that. You need
come back faith, Um that would that would be interesting.
But in our minds that's how we do play out
these scenarios and fuck, you know, I might have to
fight them because I locked out just people walking. I'm like,
(07:18):
what's happening? Will I think it's Hulu or netflick. I'll
come back. I don't think they're actually going to fight,
but I'm gonna. I'm gonna. I'm gonna wait it out.
They're yelling from the balcony, so yeah, yeah. What is
a myth? What something people think is true? You know
to be false. I don't know if we've talked about this,
(07:40):
I hope not. The cats at Disneyland, the cats at Disneyland.
I don't know if we have talked about the cats
at disney you know about the cats of people would
like these cats that you see the hordes of cats
who live at Disneyland and come out at night. Carl Cat,
the cats I live Disneyland. Yes, that's where I know.
The mything, but it's a it's a myth to a
lot of people, but it's real. There are cats at
(08:01):
Disneyland and they that's how they keep all the rodents
and everything out of there, and they roam the park
at night and not no, not, they don't keep that
before the park opens. They run off. They have their
own area, but catch one because they're actual, because they're like,
I'm not trying to be so what's while. You'll see
one that just kind of stayed and they'll be like
in a bush and they'll just stay there all day.
(08:22):
But you think, like, wouldn't they be also eating people?
Like if they are feeding the cats, like if they
see a cat, then the catching the habits of like eating.
I don't know, but some people say they heard them.
They know to go at like six am every morning
to an area and then they'll come back at night.
Oh maybe they train them with like really great treats
at that place. You've never heard about the cats at
(08:47):
disney I don't know. A lot that's okay, but no,
this is news to me, Yeah, the cats at Disney.
The only things I know is Club thirty three. That's
like the yet know, but I know. I just find
out I have a line you do get to I
found so yeah, I know somebody who knows somebody who's
who got them in the hookup wasn't strong enough for
(09:07):
them be like again, yeah, I barely know them. So
do you want to go? I don't know, actually want
to go to you? Guys? Did love what I like
the last prestigious invite only parties Club thirty three. I
feel like Magic Castle is like three steps below. The
(09:28):
Magic Castle is like trying to get into fucking Discovery Zone.
You can it doesn't feel like in the last ten
years it's become so easy to get into Magic Castle
in the last ten years. They but good for that.
I mean it's awesome. I love it. I've had the
luck of a friend of mine who have noticed is
like preschool. Their father was like a founding performer there,
so like my homies would act wild out of pocket
(09:50):
in there, like not like immoral or whatever, just be
like get sad drunk sometimes and other times pop like
you should stop serving him. But like the reverence they
treat them with like we're gonna give you a ride home.
I'm like, dude, what this is like the one bar
they drive you home rather get the funk out. But yeah, yeah,
so I'm a Disney guy. But but well, I don't
I know the same thing that you have to be
(10:12):
invited like by, but that that pool of people is
even much smaller like and also I know like some
of the drawings are like they move and ship inside there,
and I know it's one of the few places that
has like a full on, full alcohol bar in Disneyland,
and there's like I don't think I'm wrong Disney Hive
(10:36):
people who listen to show already know. I think there's
some sort of super hook up where you can they've
converted waltz old office like you can sleep in the park.
Like there's a swite. Oh yeah, that Cinderella's uh Cinderella's Sweet.
Is it next to Walt's office? Now? I think it's
in the Magic in the Magic Castle. There is like
there's also something about Walt's office and I can't remember whatever.
(10:58):
Well his his office used to be on Main Street,
Disney Main Street. Um, well, zi gang uh if you're
the club thirty three hook up. Come on let him yo, wow,
if you want to pull up with some legends. Okay
about thirty three, and just said Fidelio, what happened? What happened? Yeah,
(11:20):
you taser burn you got his ribs? Wait? Was Fidelio
that password they used for the We were just saying,
my yesterday is having a moment very much a resurgence.
Um now that we know that rich people really do
that ship except far far worse. What is something from
(11:44):
your search history that is revealing about who you are? Um?
FedEx office near me? I don't have a printer. Nobody does?
How many people? It's weird once you get done with college. Right,
that was the last time I was like, I need
a fucking printer. I don't have good luck with printers,
like I swear, like they always just they don't work. Right.
(12:05):
I got a printer and it stopped working and I'm like,
I can't do this, and You're like, I don't want
to deal with it. Yeah, I just it was Amazon Prime.
So I just said today's billion dollar idea because we've
always just given these out on the daily, like Uber
for printers. You know that's that's Yeah, we do it's
(12:25):
called Homie with a printer. Yeah. What you do is
you pull up the pull up the app and you
look for the Homie with the printer. You email the very.
It's a very. It's an encrypted attachment, so they can't
be duplicated. Well, it's gonna get weird because invest or something.
Yeah yeah, yeah, we're still in our first round hit
us uh and it's going to be quarter owners will Yeah. Yeah,
(12:52):
we go on shark like sharks. Okay for funding. We
have a hundred dollars we're looking for. We're looking for
a million dollar investment for a one percent stake in
our company. Like this is a million dollar company. Yes,
well it's called Homie with a printer. You every day
somebody with a printer just for the printer. I didn't
full disclosure. I never dated this person for the printer.
(13:14):
I thought about going on another date with because they
had a full on office section of their apartment that
you had already installed on your computer. So like what
is that? Yeah, I'm gonna put that put that printing
driver on my computer connected to the WiFi automatically. My
wife is a printer queen. She makes sure that we
(13:34):
always have a printer's that's a keeper. That's why I'm
not saying that's exactly why I married her. But you know,
if this gives me to something about picture, I'm gonna
tell my partner her majesty and be like, you know,
you know, Jack Bofe got a printer here single at
FedEx office getting hit on by the tech like you
(13:55):
need hope to hit starts. I wish I got attention
from like someone who actually worked there. Yeah, you starting
it for some free printing. They're like, I feel like
we just go on these dates so you can get
like free printing at FedEx office. Doesn't my employee discount
Like no, baby, Yeah, because someone has to get off
to it has to be that. Someone has to be
(14:16):
into it. I love printing your ship. There's somebody freaks
in the world, and I don't care what size attachments
you're saying, I'll print everything you want. The coldly didn't
pretty interesting. I feel like page more Products would have
adopted the model where it's basically like gouging, where they're like, yeah,
(14:38):
we give you the printer for a really good price,
but then the ink costs like hundreds of dollars um.
But you can um again from Amazon, you can get
off brand Inc. But that's only if you have a
printer that works, right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a good band,
Brand Inc. Yeah that sounds something like a cool like
it sounds like a band. Like there's Murder Inc. Or whatever.
(15:01):
There you go. What is something you think is underrated? Oh?
I was I got him so often and I was
gonna say murder, but like I need an outsource for that.
Anybody that wants printer cartridges for a dollar dollar And
this was like, um, the DMX would be like, but
(15:22):
it's not. What is something you think is overrated? Dogma?
Dogma the movie? No, the movie, but like Kevin Smith's
must overrated film do the portrayal of the Gold. Actually,
you know what, I kind of enjoyed the film. I
think they could have gone further. But when I say dogma,
I mean like like rules and regulations when it comes
(15:45):
to spirituality, like this is right, this is wrong, one
size fits all, otherwise you're going to hell. So anyway,
like you know, to me, that's that's overrated, and like
I'm not you know, I don't really do organized religion,
but I was raised Muslim. I'd love to see like
a Muslim perspective from like someone who was raised this way,
(16:05):
but like you know, doesn't really sort of you know,
aligne with organized religion. But um, yeah, I actually went
to Mecca Um in Saudi Arabia with my parents because
you know, I think they wanted, you know, to save
my soul or whatever. And um, god, damn empty ritual man,
(16:27):
or you have to do this and like I have
a lot of baby hair as you can see, so
you have to cover everything the standard of decency in
Saudi Arabia and I'm not gonna like also say Saudi
Arabia and Islam are the same thing. It's like, but
that's where yeah, well Saudi Arabia it's like it's running,
but you know it's it's the patriarchy. But like out
(16:48):
in the open American brands, yeah exactly. So, um, you
know everyone was sort of like, oh, your baby hair's
falling out. Women would come up to me trying to
fix my thing because you know, like it was like forehead,
clar have those edges laid honey, No, you can't have
the edges have a pull back if I have them
laid on my forehead. Oh my god, that's so scandalous.
I might as well be walking around with my titties out.
(17:11):
What was the at what point where you sort of
as as a child, is that when you sort of
realized organized religion isn't for me, because it's always interesting,
Like I my parents weren't really religious, my grandparents were,
and I went to like Lutheran and Catholic schools and
at a certain point you kind of like look around like,
I don't know if this for me. I mean, what
you are doing. I think it was my first introduction
to sort of like a connection to like you know,
(17:34):
that sort of energy. But like so that part was cool,
but like all the rules, I know, I was like,
this is like I don't want to like do this whatever.
It bunched up against your like sort of spirit as
like a young teenager. But that was sort of my
window to like, you know, if you're like like really
going through something, you're just like you know, you need
you want to reach out to something. That was sort
(17:55):
of my window. But I was like I was the
kind of kid who was like questioned everything because if
it's the truth, why not? Yeah? You know, so all right,
Joe Rogan, so you're Rogan, get me all right, you know,
I'd love to of all the profound ship that you
(18:17):
just said. My question is baby hair. Those are the
little hairs come out wearing your hair is pulled back.
It's like these little hairs that just do not grow
any longer. Then you can sort of like comb down
and do you like like Chili from um teals, Yeah,
very she her baby hair is just on point. All Right,
(18:38):
We're going to take a quick break and we'll be
right back. And we're back. So there's this BuzzFeed article
that that last story about Netflix sort of allowing us
(18:58):
to speed up how we view their content. This buzz
made me think of there's this BuzzFeed article talking about
how the two thousand tens broke time as it exists
in our brain. And they're just talking about all the
different things, like you kind of hear this all the
time now right like time has melted. My brain has melted,
(19:19):
Donald Trump, It's melted my brain. I feel like that
happened four weeks ago, but it was only two days ago.
Or you know, when we're like, didn't the impeachment things
start like last week? It's been five weeks, right, and
in the twenty months, so they're pointing out that all this,
all these things that change how we just interact with
(19:41):
our world, like came out in the last like since
the I guess they say, in the twenty months between
Hillary Clinton's campaign announcement and Trump's inauguration. Uh, everything from
Apple Music to HBO Now to Apple News launched or
relaunched the Amazon Echo, Google Home, Apple Watch hit the market. Uh.
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Publishers established the current form and tone of the news
push alerts that you received. Facebook launched a live streaming
function uh, and then d prioritized it when people started
killing people on it. UH. Instagram launched the Instagram Stories.
Twitter introduced the quote tweet option and has transitioned into
(20:26):
a like algorithmically driven version. Yeah, rather than like real time,
rather than real time, you're getting what they want you
to read, right, what? Yeah, what they think you're going
to enjoy and continue to read? Like, what's the most
sticky thing? And this is causing what they want you
to read? Write there's also the thing you're saying, but
(20:47):
and I cynical, But yes, I think would be dumb
not to be cynical that they're also pushing certain things
in there. Right, what do you mean like just suppressing
things that what would you mean? I just think like
like four or five months ago, I unfollowed everyone as this,
yes exactly, and you realize, well, it's also funny you
(21:10):
realize who your friends are like really addicted to it
because they're like, yeah, what the funk dude, And you're like, well,
look it wasn't just you. But I realized that I
still have a feed showing me stuff, showing me tweets,
and I'm not following anybody right right. So that's when
I was like, this is they're telling I mean to
(21:31):
a certain degree, they know what I want to see
and what I've liked and stuff, but also throw it
off and just like everything sometimes. So but it likes
my tweets, I'll do like like a lot of yours.
You're just thank you. Sometimes I don't lock him just
because I'm like, he's getting cocky. He's getting cocky with
these one tweets a week. What's he doing? Enough cool
(21:52):
it two weeks in a row? That is what? So yeah,
I'm enough cold brew, my man. The so is that
sort of just sort of talking about the idea that
because because even Facebook, right that timeline or whatever the funk.
It was called before timeline, your wall or whatever, felt
like a real time thing of everyone posting things and
now that because I knew what my friends were up
(22:15):
to at that moment. Yeah, and then so now because
that sort of melted away, that's just has like this
knock on thing of like when is now right? When
is earlier? Yeah? Like when is yeah? I mean the
A good example they were talking about on the press
Box podcast was that Rolling Stone article that everybody was
(22:36):
up in arms about the list of the fifty best singers, singers,
rivers or whatever. Uh, and everybody was like, what the
funk Bob Jones number one? This is sort of bullshit
and uh, people were like weighing in, and then somebody
pointed out, that's just like the article was from two
thousand eight, right that everybody was getting when he was
unquestionably the best singer then was so good. But it's
(22:59):
like it's just like people, I don't know, we well, yeah,
things pop up because yeah, yeah, we think we're interacting
with things that are happening. What's that one tweet that
keeps getting this shrimp fried rice? It goes viral like
every week someone someone writes the same tweet like you're
(23:20):
telling me the shrimp fried this rice. Yeah, and it'll joke. Yeah,
it'll go viral. I'll see it once awake, somebody else
retweeting it into my face and it's somebody else wrote it.
I think it's become a meme because of the fact
that people keep writing it. And now I've I've heard
(23:41):
it by like I've heard like thirty different versions of it. Yeah, well,
yeah that they did do some takes that reprieved. There's
some good ones. Yeah. Yeah, And it's like every time
they're at the end of a football game or something
like a championship, I always retweet Africa is getting so
many t shirts it right after the sports thing. And
(24:02):
let's say everyone does that joke every time, but it
gets retweeted bazillion times. I mean yeah, Like two people
invented the light bulb at the same time, like in
two separate cities, completely independently of each other, because that
idea was just in the air. So that is happening constant.
Until they did that, no one knew how or when
(24:22):
people got ideas though, right, that's exactly right. And then
since that time, the same light bulbs have been popping
on over people's heads. I've had a candle moment. Just
I got mine when I lived in Silver, Like we
got it replaced to an Edison bulb. It's pretty cool
when I get an idea. How much does the procedure cost?
(24:44):
I actually have been admiring that Edison bulbs are everywhere
too much. Yeah, it's that in the vertical fence or
the horizontal face, the gentrifire fence. That's that in Nediseony,
We're like, you know they have Edison bulbs in that house.
The entire interior is in Edison bulb and the same
back and there's a cardboard antler head yes, buckhead made
out of cardboard. Yes. Yeah, So I guess I didn't
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fully appreciate how much of this had changed in the
last decade. Like, yeah, it really is something else though, too,
Like when you realize how we used to take in
media or what we thought was even social media at
the time. I went from oh, all this is in
real time to now like it could be from whatever,
(25:27):
And like how subtly that like affects you too, because
Instagram goes from me a thing like yo, this is
telling me what everyone is taking a photo of right
now too. This has been happening the last five fucking
days on Instagram. Yeah, and then I'm like, is and
you have there is a version of you that exists
on social media where they know so much about you
that Yeah, like you were saying, Billy, you can stop
(25:49):
following everybody, it doesn't matter. They still know what you're
gonna like. Yeah, yeah, we exist in black mirror more now.
And they also know what you This is the thing
I've noticed. They know what you will respond to in
a negative way and put it in front of you. Yeah. Yeah,
because they'll know you'll that quote tweet did and be
(26:09):
like you see his fucking ship right here, right and
because that all they wants the interaction. So they're gonna
show you stuff where you're like, why am I seeing? Oh?
Because you want me to be mad, and you know
I'll react. So that's that's the manipulation part I'm talking about.
Whether Yeah, for sure. All right, let's uh, let's check
in with what Bill Murray has been up to. Oh God,
(26:31):
God bless him. This guy is every I think he did.
I think god pretty good. He's got the only form
of alcoholism that results in an amazing show business career
rights help. Well you always hear these, you know. It
sort of goes along the theme of Bill Murray of
like he's always popping up at a random party. He's
(26:52):
popping up at this place. He's serving drinks at this bar,
and now this is the thing that's mounting on the
field during the Cubs game's Bill Murray like, I think
he's kind of drinking um. So he was on Amy
Schumer's podcast recently and said that he like he applied
for a job recently. They're like what what what what
(27:14):
are you talking about. He's like, like an actual job,
and he said, quote, I did fill out an application
at PF Chang's at the Atlanta Airport because I think
that's one of the great places. And they were like
okay when they asked like what do you mean, Like
what did you apply for? He just goes, you know,
just to work there. It looks like the best time.
(27:35):
So this so then like the PF change, Twitter was
like you're hired, bro, But I don't know if uh.
It's so funny Like when I think about Bill Murray,
like is he's just at that point he's so bored
that he's like kind of being like, Yo, that would
be kind of tight. Let me just work at PF Chang's.
Is this all stunt? Is he that lonely? Does he
just want that? Like he just likes to see the
(27:56):
surprise on people's faces when they're like, oh my god,
Bill Murray just gave me this orange chicken. I think
he just he does whatever he wants because there's no
there's no restriction. I think that's part of I think
there is, Like he's probably just a really fun drunk um.
But I also think that knowing enough famous people without
(28:18):
even just because they're they're also human, they start seeing
what the limitations are. That's why a lot of them
get in trouble. That's why that it's impressive when some
people are just normal and famous, where like I don't
know what they're doing, but it's evil or something, you know,
spail or something. Are you so well adjusted? Yeah? But
well it's a lot of work to be that well adjusted.
But I think he started he started pressing them, like
(28:42):
what are my limits? Like I can go to all
these secret rooms, I'm invited to all the Hollywood ship,
Bill Murray, Can I walk into can I walk off?
Can I walk over to this person's table why they're eating,
and grab a biscuit from their plate and eat it
and put it back out and then say no, I
don't believe you, yes, and walk off without anybody trying
(29:04):
to fight me. And then no one tried to fight him,
so it just he just kept escalating it. Yeah, he's
just gonna get Yeah, he's gonna hit pedestrians with his
car or something, well probably until hit something with a
golf car. Sure. I think he's got enough people around
him that they'll be like, you can't drive anymore? Right,
(29:25):
I think he'll be like cool limitations finally, right, Yeah,
just waiting until somebody. Yeah, that's all he wants, is
I just want someone to tell me no. It would
be nice that that guy in charge of the PF
change is like, hey Bill, you gotta put the things in.
You've got to marry the He's like, thank you, Now
I don't sucks. Hey, Well before I could just do
(29:47):
all the drugs and everyone loved me. William, William, can
you come back here? Yeah, you're putting hoisten sauce on
the wrong dishes, man, Yeah you're not the guy is
there for a reason? You should know how to assemble
these dishes. He's just, this is the best most fun
I've had in years. This shouldn't be fun. This is
PF change Williams. I feel you're doing the job wrong.
If this is fun, so free, there's no buns. But
(30:11):
he famously like he doesn't have representation, right, Like he
doesn't have a s's a voicemail. Yeah, I think he
has a phone number. You leave a voicemail and then
he I'm sure there's that's like the legend, but I'm
sure there's like just knowing how all of it works there,
but he doesn't have there's a lawyer or fucking somebody
a lawyer but has to be. But he's typically the
(30:33):
one who fields his own call, like he wants to
call back or not, because he listens to the voicemails
where people are like, hey, we want you to play
f DR things like cool I did that, we want
you to play general PF. He was drunk, right, It's
how he ended up in the Guarfield movie because he
thought that the Joel Cohen who wrote it was from
(30:55):
the Cohen brothers and not just a random dude. Uh
So he really did think that. Yeah, that's he explained
to somebody in an interview, he was like, yeah, I
really regret doing the Garfield movie. I thought that Joel
Cohen was was the Cohen brother. That's an alcoholic thing
to do, and someone that used to drink quite a bit.
(31:19):
That is, I recognize what that was. Like, I thought
that was something else, and then I was too far
in to admit, Yeah, some people are just really really
good at being drunk and well and then even years
later that's also a drunk thing to do, is admit
it exactly used to like I would feel so much
shame about that, Like I would never tell anybody, I
(31:41):
would quit my career. And he just like goes and
does a Rolling Stone interview with The movie that dude
wrote is pretty interesting. He wrote a toy story first
of all, Monster masin movie Money Talks, if you remember
with Charlie Sheen and Chris Talker, a movie when he goes,
I'm sorry your wife is fat p h A t
pretty hot intent um, Goodbye, Lever, Cheaper by the Dozen.
(32:03):
Both Garfield movies Evan Almighty, Daddy Day, camp Alms Controls
the Secret Chamber. The kind of stopped after the Last Godfather,
which is a South Korean comedy film. Um interestingly got
into sounds like he made his money. Yeah after Toy Story.
I don't know how you go back to work. Well
(32:24):
they you see it sounds like he had a contract
that he had to feel because those are all big
studio movies that make no sense as like an artist,
if you're just a writer and you're like, I wrote,
Toy Story is my first one. I could retire, but
then I have to give him the money back, So
now I have to writ cheaper by the dozen. And
Toy Story is like animated movies don't pay writers ship
(32:46):
because it's not a it's not a guild thing animated movies.
It is now it is because it wasn't in the
nine No, it was not nod Toy Story. And he's like,
um am, I see it. Sorry, it was a buyout. Yeah.
We talked about how the writers of The Lion King
didn't get for that movie being like a multibillion dollar
(33:07):
success anything for that Aladdin, they didn't get shipped for that,
at least they don't. There's not reminders of it everywhere. Yeah,
you know who can remember those films anyways? But Jamie, first,
we like to ask our guests, What is something from
your search history that's revealing about who you are? Titanic Mexico? Oh,
(33:28):
where they shot it? I did you know that? Because
my mom she's she's a film critic. She went, she
did a set visit, I remember at the time, and
she came back. She's like, James Cameroom, he's making a
Titanic movie and he's a really cool set. She talks like,
but I remember seeing the photo like why Mexico, and
(33:50):
I didn't realize they just had that like little bay
that they shot James Cameron. James Cameron was asking himself
why Mexico after a while because there was a hurricane
tore the roof off of where one of the sound
stages that they guys know all this these facts about
the production of Titanic is totally passive, and my uh
(34:12):
guilty pleasure is sadly movie reviews. I just like read
every movie review and like behind the scenes, like like
that's what I did growing up like you. It's odd. Yeah,
I realized for you Titanic is so important that somehow
I didn't know these old guys like, yeah, do that
(34:32):
about the weather from both very very are you thinking
about visiting the spot where it all happened. No. I
was so, I've I've been uh working on a show
(34:55):
for the past month or so, and I was writing
a lot of Billy Zane specific jokes that were then,
for a number of reasons, brought back to me because
they were not maybe not historically accurate enough about the
very specific production of Titanic. I got some notes from
(35:17):
the Zane camp that we're like, well, you know, this
joke can't be said because actually were filming in Mexico,
and so there if there were any ghosts haunting the
set of Titanic, the ghosts from people who were in
Mexico or Mexican themselves. So we actually need to rewrite
on this because and you're like, idiots, nobody knows that
(35:37):
it was shot in Mexico, and then we don't people
close to me right away that night of the show,
and I'm like, I'm really disappointed in Jamie, Jamie Mexico.
Where was the joke originally? Where did you think it was? Well,
(35:59):
I was writing it, okay, maybe revealing too much just
the location where I just will keep it simple without
revealing the humor of it. The No, I mean it's
so I was writing it as if they were actually
like goes from the actual Titanic. That was I was
thinking more movie centric. I wasn't thinking about the extending
universe of the production of it. But then it was
(36:20):
they were like, well, think about put yourself in insane
ship goes what he has been seen. I think he's
going to be able to believe this line if well
he knows, will he come to your show? What? Well
He's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, sorry, guys, We're all right,
We're back. We had to cut a little bit because
Jamie got too deep into her n D a very
(36:44):
very compelling stuff that we just learned. There's a picture
of Billy Zane on the rat party cake. Okay, have
you ever met anybody who didn't know that Titanic was
a real boat until the movie, or like thought it
was just a movie? Yeah? Yeah, which is I want
to I want to live? I was like, wait a second.
(37:09):
I love I love when people don't because it's like,
I mean, you can't be like that mad because the Titanic,
like it's a big thing, but it's not like you know,
I feel like you don't lose your perspective of the
entire world by just never having He's like, you're not ignorant.
It was that's just a weird knowledge gap. That was
a joke in my family about my my mom's mom
(37:30):
was born two days before the Titanic sank as old
as the Titanic round like that. I went to I
Saw Judy. I saw an afternoon screening of Judy a
couple of weeks ago. There was someone in the crowd.
It was like an older crowd. It was like noon
on a Sunday, and there was someone in the crowd
who didn't know that Judy Garland died or like died young,
(37:55):
because there's there is not a great movie, but I
hope she's okay. Well at the end, you know, like
at the end of like a biopic, it says like,
you know, two weeks later, Judy Garland died at the
age of forty seven, and someone in the audience was like,
they were so shocked. I was really enjoying the film,
and they're like, I thought she was going to pull through.
(38:15):
I was like, how would you think that? But they
were just really, I mean they were visibly like optimism
and I mean to that point, James Cameron's Titanic does
not include like a part at the end where it's
like the that really happened what you just saw or
anything like you got to remind them totally happens everything
(38:43):
except the placement of the stars and that dude pinging
off the propeller. All right, let's take a quick break
and we'll be right back. And we're back. Let's talk
(39:03):
about the president. More bad news for the president. Yeah,
he Well, there was a fundraiser on Wednesday night in
d C that was held at the Trump Hotel in
d C. And apparently like Trump went up and did
like an hour of like I guess, mixture of complaining
(39:25):
almost mixture of complaining about Democrats or Mitt Romney and
also telling dumb fucking jokes were like kind of half
roasting people, and then also patting himself on the back
for killing uhvoo a back daddy um and then was
basically saying that he would called Representative John Joyce's wife
quote a looker, and called the a shorter Congressman Chuck
(39:49):
Fleishman a little guy, and some other stuff. But the
thing that really stuck out of people is that he
was taking Steve Scalise, who was the minority whip in
the house. He was involved in it. He was shot.
He was a victim of a shooting in seen at
that congressional baseball game. Um or the practice for the
congressional baseball team. Um. When he was talking about him.
This is what Trump said. Um. This is from Politico.
(40:12):
They say the President reflected on the shooting of Steve
Scalise a few years ago and remarked how tough the
Louisiana Republican is, and Trump quipped he wouldn't recommend getting
shot as a weight loss plan. Um. Trump also said
Scalise's wife quote cried her eyes out when I met
her at the hospital that faithful day. I mean, not
many wives would react that way to a tragedy. I
(40:32):
know mine wouldn't. I mean, so, even if he's like
trying to do the my wife she's a ax, always
always getting mad at me type thing, it's still starting
from a baseline that not many wives would cry when
(40:53):
their husband was shot. Well, based on his experience, that
would probably make a lot of sense. No one would
be said, God, that's so that's so dark. That's so
many layers like, oh, he thinks he's like you know,
guys like you know, wives don't care about you because
you probably abuse them, and they're all like just sullen
(41:13):
all the time, isn't that? Am I? All? Right? Guys?
Like can you imagine him walking into school usea's hospital
room and like it's just like what's her problem? Like
his wife period? Like what she got her period? Wife
(41:34):
is critical condition? What the fun is that you never
do that? Yeah, my tear ducks don't work. Oh that's right,
that's right. Yeah, I don't know. It was a very
It's funny when you see these moments or like all
the Trump families just say these things that are revealing
about their mental state or like how they see the
world and things like that. So like even when Don Jr.
(41:56):
Was like I think recently he said I wish my
name was he was on handed, he said, I wish
my name was Hunter Biden, so I can make millions
of dollars off my dad, right, Okay? And even what
was the other one when he said, like when you
when the father is powerful and you're the son, they
own you. That's how it works. Like they just had
(42:17):
these moments of clarity that are just so interesting. Father
is powerful, Like yeah, I mean, there's no doubt that
their relationship behind the scenes makes uh Logan roy look
like fucking Mr. Rogers, Like Trump is just probably so
mean to them. Oh absolutely. I mean you can tell
even what we said, the way he was interacting with
(42:40):
children and costumes. He probably does not interact with children.
He doesn't like it because like I don't know that
you can barely talk to them about the stock market. Yeah,
like he just met his kids when they turned eighteen
like that kind of yeah. It's like, yeah, Ivanka is like,
this is your new granddaughter. He goes, oh wow, yeah,
do you know Obama is a Muslim? She's not responding.
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She's two days old. That I don't know. It's probably
a fucking lib. There's that story about how I think
Avonka tells it, like about how he taught them to
be competitive. But it's like basically when they would go
skiing together as a family, he would like attack them
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with his poles and it was like first one down
would get love. Basically, I love, I love, I do love.
A competition for a parent's love, I know that is fun.
Just like openly encouraging that is so dark you can do,
but that like that, you know, crosses socioeconomic lines, like
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poor parents make you fight for their love too, and
that's also fun. That's awesome. It's a time honor tradition.
My dad used to do a game with us called
poops poop Stick. It's that upright Citizen's Brigade sketch. Yeah,
my dad's a huge Yeah, no, this is like a
long time. But no, my dad would like have us,
(44:05):
like me and my cousins run around until one of
us because he had to always pick up the dog's
crap and could never find it. And so you'd have
us run around until one of us stepped in the
poop and then he would he would get the poop
stick and he would scrape the show off. Yeah, and
then and then you get extra snack at lunch, right, Yeah,
it was pretty smart. So you were logan roy, So
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you were trying to find it, like as a kid,
do you remember like trying to run around and yeah,
you're like, you want you want to step in the
ship because then you get extra love and snack. It
wasn't enough to be like I found it here, No
need to dirty your shoe, you can just pick it
up here. No, he'd waved the stick at the front
of the scrape it off, ringing the dinner bell with
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the poop so nasty. It was a pointy stick though,
and got it out. Don't sweep in my backyard like
a mine sweeper dog poops. I didn't know about this
genius move just seeing the kids outside, they'll find it.
It's like it's like a weird AI hack where it's
like I use children or smells like dogshit all the time.
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The reason I got mind swooping for the poop is
so that my kids don't track it in the house. Well,
that's a classical approach to I'm not thinking for d
chess Man, you really need to experience some kind of
paradigm shift. Yeah, all right, that's gonna do it. For
this week's weekly Zeitgeist. Please like and review the show.
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If you like the show, h means the world to Miles.
He needs your validation, folks. I hope you're having a
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