What About Ivanka? Jeff Bezos: I TOO Have Space Money 5.2.18

In episode 139, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Billy Wayne Davis to discuss the space race with Jeff Bezos, TMZ breaking it down to Kanye West, Ty Cobb retiring and being replaced by Emmet Flood, the White House coming for the DOJ and Rod Rosenstein, why Mueller hasn't questioned Ivanka Trump yet, Trader's Joe's new podcast, how baseball is still boring but trying, & more! 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season twenty nine, episode
three of The Daily zeit Geist. Yeah for May second,
two thousand and eight team, my name is Jack O'Brien,
a k. The Jacker Barrel. Uh. That is courtesy of
Derrick Smith um. Also courtesy of the Zeke Gang. May
Day when a plane slash ship is going down comes
from my days. That is my friends. The casual French

(00:25):
for help me uh, and that's how it sounds to
English speakers. And I love in Tennis comes from lu Egg,
which is like the shape of a zero again as
we call it. Yeah, my perfect French accent uh. And
I am thrilled to be joined as always by my
co host, Mr Miles Gray. Ah. You know Miles grays

(00:49):
black and yellow, black and yellow, black and yellow, black
and yellow. Thank you to Carolina the Groot on Twitter
for pointing that out as we had a discussion over Yeah,
yellow not a good description of these people. But you
know I was saying I was black. I didn't even
get it. Yeah, the original jigga you know what I mean.
I've been out here with all the eight ks, but
thank you for pointing that one out. Uh. And also
Whiz Khalifa. I see you doing way tie and it's

(01:11):
very scary. Yeah, that is kind of weird. He's very long,
but it's funny. Watch mans. And now that he turned
his like baby chest into a man's chest, he looks
he's starting to look like a human rather than like
one of those cigarettes moving aliens for men in black.
He does look like that. We are thrilled to be
joined in our third seat by the hilarius stand up

(01:32):
comedian Mr Billy Wayne David. Hey, everybody, Hey man, the
Wiz is getting Yeah. I don't know. There's been clips
of him in the Mui Taie gym like doing I mean,
his hand speed is garbage, but his legs are so long.
When he was doing like these flying knees, I was like,
oh god, if you caught one of those. Yeah, there's
a lot of change a smile. Leverage, Yeah, a lot

(01:52):
of leverage from those limbs. Yeah, he's loose too, because
he's all Hi, Billy Wayne. What is something that you've
searched in the not too distant past that is revealing
about who you are as a human being? Uh VPNs
VPN virtual proxy proxy networks. There you go, downloading some

(02:13):
ship off bit toward uh now just more protecting your
your activities on the internet and just like your family's
stuff and all that. That's like, I think that's the
right move, right, Yeah, I mean it's uh, it's a
must use piece of software. I think the older I
get everything I researched, even if I'm I think I'm
sure where I was like, yeah, I'm I'm sure about that.

(02:35):
That means eight Yes, we call it a virtual private network,
but yeah, I know I used more so much here
in the States. A lot of people are using more
in Europe and stuff. Yeah, the only time I used
one was when I went to the Middle East, and
that's because they some of the countries didn't allow certain stuff, right,
and that's usually why. Like the first time I got
it was I think I was going somewhere and I

(02:56):
was like, what do you mean I can't watch Netflix?
And Sri Lanka then like get a VPN. So yeah,
that did make me laugh where it was like that
easy to just jump over that, yeah exactly. Or like
you know, I like to watch a lot of stuff
in the UK, so like BBC I Player, like those
are sort of geo restricted. So by having that you
have access you know, depending on which how you use it, say,

(03:17):
I don't even get to that angle of it. And
you VPN into a specific location, so like if you
want to watch Netflix, you VPN into the United States.
And yeah, I look, I'm not a hacker, and I
know everybody in the zeit gang has plenty of savvy people.
But what I imagine is, yeah, you can sort of
say like you can have it operate as if you
are in a certain location, have access to certain things. Dope,

(03:40):
cool cool, but yeah, so cool. You've been searching that, Yeah,
I would trying to find the best one. Uh, what
is something you think is overrated? Overrated? Twitter? All right?
Just as a as a place to write, as a
place to get your news, all of the at this point,
all of it, I think as a technology, I think

(04:04):
it's it's outdated itself, if that makes any sense. Yeah,
we've gotten past peak Twitter. We're in the final days.
Well I don't know what the final days, but like
it's clearly gone past the best version of it. Yes, yes,
I think we've ringed out its value. Yeah. And it's
funny because even there are people who will like tweet us, like, hey,
I joined Twitter just to holler at the daily zeitgeist
or whatever. And I'm always like, don't look around, do

(04:26):
not look around, sorry, don't you don't get out. If
any of the gang listening right now, you don't need
to be on Twitter, you know what I mean. You
can holler at us through other versions of communication like Facebook.
I don't know how do we how do we even
talk to people anymore? Email? Yeah, that's great. Email yeah?
Or Instagram? Instagram. I like Instagram, Like I got just

(04:46):
got verified on Instagram. Oh look at you. I'm bragging
because it was you're literally flexing your muscles, right exactly.
My manager and agent were like, they're like, we're going
to verify you. And I was like, I'm good, it's fine. Yeah,
and like no, no no, you can on Instagram and actually
you can sell tickets and do stuff like that, all right,
And I was like, oh, well, then there's a value

(05:07):
to it. Aside from the look of the status of it.
I never cared about because come on, unless you're a
little tay who has been bragging about being verified for
the last two weeks on Instagram? Is that that was
a past story about this like nine year old child
who's been like posing with like thousands of dollars, and
no one knows who this girl's is, where she comes from.

(05:29):
But she was in a fight with the cash me
outside girl and she can't she wrote prominence. Yeah through that. Yeah,
so there's she's not very very she says, she's She said,
I'm the richest nine year old out here. I'm verified
flexing on all you broke ass haters all the time.
It's very classist. Rubs me the wrong way. So you know,
I try not to do it, you know, to get
too involved with that rough growing up. Yeah yeah, I

(05:52):
mean those nine years, man, I'll tell you. Also, how
do you have that money? Rough? Almost decade she's been living.
I can tell him old because I'm just where her parents.
And also, man, she would get her ass kicked. Uh.
Both of those things are probably not the first thought
you should be. I don't know, a nine year old
kid at school coming through with like racks of dollars

(06:12):
talking about flex and all you brocaters. I'm snatching that
pile of money, and I'm buying a Pokemon cars or
tamagotchis or Beanie ba. A lot of my kids buying
skins and stuff on Minecraft. Thank you, a lot of
children's money goes to. Now at this point, it's a
good scam I've got. I've had to explain to my son, Like,
let's talk about the tangibility of where you're spinning your mind.

(06:36):
How old's eight So you're you're up on all the
crazy new fangled bullshit. Oh, I know it all. I
know when it comes out a Roadblox or whatever. That
Kristen Shawl is in every cartoon that's been made in
the last tenure voice it's impressive. Hot no, and her voices.
You you know it when you hear it. Yes, Yeah,

(06:56):
there's several of my friends around like, oh, you might
get an on the money and not telling anybody. Man
that voice game is not a game. It's not a game,
it's an industry in fact. Yeah, Tom Kinney, you know
who he is. Yeah, he's the voice of SpongeBob and
everything else. Yeah, and I know him from Mr Show.
Yeah right, Yeah, he's a great interview because he not

(07:20):
only is the voice of everything, but he loves being
the voice of everything and he will just like break
into whatever voice he wants. It's just that that's a
special skill. Like I went and did some uh some
squid billy stuff a couple of weeks ago, and I'm
bragging about that. That is that is one of my
character came back this season. I was like, there is

(07:41):
do you want to come? I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I always forget the money part. My managers like get paid,
they'll pay you. Yeah. It is so great. But just
being and I was in one of his voice over
studios and some of those dudes come in and out
like him. That's a it's what they can do and
the way they can do it. It's like, oh, I'm

(08:02):
just I was just raised in a certain region. That's
why I'm doing this. Yeah, but you have a thing
that comedian mouth. Yeah, it is crazy to watch them
just there's like different spirits in their body. It's crazy. Yeah.
And just generally having a talent, like being the best
at something and also really loving the thing your best

(08:25):
at is like such a I don't know. It's fun.
It makes people like really vibe with you even more,
especially because if I feel like there's always videos on
Reddit of like being like, hey read this thing is
this character and people like and he always obliges And
it's fun because you can tell he likes to do
it and it's just I don't know, it's it's Mark
Hamill seems like that. Yeah, he seems like some of

(08:45):
it likes being Mark Hamill, you know what I mean,
Like where it's like that's thank you for liking that,
instead of just being like, yeah, I did a voice
that I was mad at and now I'm a millionaire.
And I think it's also someone who kind of looks
at their own gill and says, wow, it's afforded me
a life of like luxury or you know, access or whatever,
and so you know, I have a tortured relationship with it.

(09:08):
I think those are people who were like, wow, I'm
lucky enough that I got to do this thing that
I love, So why be shitty about it? You know
what I mean? Like those people really you know I
like that attitude. Yeah a lot of times. Yeah, you
want to be Luke Skywalker because millions of people want
to be right exactly. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like a
lot of those people. A lot of the time they

(09:30):
will either the success will come late or they will
have like a dry period with that will make them
sort of be like oh ship, yeah, yeah, take things
into account. They were trying to get good at it
instead of trying to get famous at it exact period. Yeah,
it's usually when it's like, oh, for a while they
didn't make any money because they didn't believe in themselves

(09:50):
because they knew the art form so well that they
were like, I shouldn't charge people yet, right right, right,
and then something happens and they're like, I'm going to
charge people a lot, right right. Have you ever seen
a bird where you're like, man, that bird loves flying.
I like to catch him like the in a like
a draft. Yeah, just like and they're just like doing

(10:13):
it because they can, and you think you'd be tired
of it, but man, that must be fucking awesome. Like
and have the response, I'm like, funk out of here, birds,
and I think you're better than me. Yeah. You do.
Always yell at the birds in our neighbor because they're
they're trying to make me jealous because that's their privilege,
you know what I mean, your privilege. At the same
time it is inspiring. Yeah, Billy, what's something that is underrated?

(10:37):
Dip blow? Okay, I've just got into who dip blow is?
Uh what? He is? Not a dinosaur? He's not I
mean he could be it could be a Diplodocus, but
like his lifestyle is fascinating and inspiring. So explain who
diplo is. I'm familiar with his he's like, you know,
it's like a DJ DJ songwriter. I mean, like you know,

(11:00):
he uh started the record label Mad Decent, and you
know he does like some nonprofit stuff. He's he owns
a publishing company where I think that's how rappers get
most of their money. Oh yeah, you got you got
on your publishing. Yeah, because that's where all the money
comes from, is writing the music. So that alone is genius.
And then you look at who he. He's also responsible

(11:22):
for that song paper Planes by m I A that alone,
is he really? Yeah? I didn't know that he and
m I a kind of responsible for each other when
they found each other. They kind of blew up once
they found each other. But I think that song alone,
paper Planes, makes the movie Pineapple Express a classic movie
instead of just a really funny movie. Ye, it's funny

(11:44):
how music can do that sometimes. Oh it's And I
think who does that better than anybody is Todd Phillips.
Like he uses, he spends a ton of money. If
you hear some of the songs he uses. Oh like
he got Kanye before Kanye was. That's true because you
can you see those music. You're like, I usually don't
hear these this artist in the film, which means they've
probably cut the fucking checks so much money. That's a

(12:05):
heavy ass bag. But that's why his movies stand out.
I think, Todd Phillips, that's true. Yeah, yeah, I mean
I can't do a lot, and like, yeah, I remember
when am I was still first coming out, I found
out through them to this like this mixtape called like
Piracy Funds Terrorism uh mixtape series was him, Yeah, exactly,
And that's when I was like, who the fund is?
Diplow and then the other producer Switch, who was also

(12:25):
working in my That whole world was crazy and then yeah,
he's a people don't realize how and just he doesn't
drink or do drugs. I think he smokes a little weight,
which I don't consider drugs. But it's like this is
he just prints checks, Yeah right, Prince fucking checks. And
then some people are like he's known the DJ, and
we're like, yeah he is. But also the rectly it's

(12:48):
just he gets play a lot because he's famous, right,
and that's how that works, I think. Right. Yeah, you
notice too that the way he speaks might indicate he's
from the South. Oh yeah, that's a friend of mine.
He's the music. And was like, you need to check
this dude out. That's how I got into who Diplow
is in the last couple and then I got on
his Instagram stories and heard his voice. I was like,

(13:08):
where is this motherfucker from because he sounds like a
couple of buddies of mine. Yeah, and just kind of
talk slow and a little. He's a smartass. So I
was like, I know this dude. Yeah, there he is.
And that's when I got really into I was like, oh,
I'm gonna because he's so worldwide and he's from Tupelo, Mississippi, right,
And it's just fascinating to me people making fun of

(13:29):
the South all the time, Like you need to check
who's from there now you don't need to talk to
a lot of people who still live there. Do you
think he's a perversion of Tupolo, Mississippi, Oh, without a doubt,
because he went to Florida too. Yeah, it's funny. I
was talking about this uh Early Its mixtape that I
loved by this dude low By and I can never

(13:50):
find him. And people were like, oh, you're talking about
low budget who was part of Holler Tronics with Diplo.
So yeah, I was just thinking like, man, I need
to like read more on Diplow. You is apparently he's
just like always where all my favorite music is. And
you check that dude out. Uh. And finally, Billy Wayne,
what is a myth? What's something people think is true
that you know to be false? That jury duty is

(14:14):
a panel of your peers. I was just on jury
What did that panel look like? Well, first of all,
it was fifty something people. I guess I can talk
about it now. I got dismissed. Uh. I was there
for five days. Oh Jesus. They I kept having to
come back because I was like deep in the numbers
because you got to go in on Monday, and then

(14:35):
they're like, sorry, I gonna to come back Tuesday, Wednesday, Wednesday, Thursday,
we're off the Friday and Monday something. I had to
come back again on a Tuesday. You get fifteen dollars
a day. M hmm, that's it right. So I got
a sixty six dollar check because they did some kind
of weird math where whatever. But it's like straight they

(14:57):
don't do like it's like it was a medical marijuana case.
And uh, as soon as I heard that, I was like,
just let me talk right now. You're gonna let me
go right right exactly. But sitting there, it was fascinating
either how misinformed people were about marijuana. One lady said
it was against her religion. It was really hard not

(15:19):
Oh you can't ask. That's the most frustrating thing. When
they talk. You can't be in like the panel and
just raise your and you're like, yo, um, can we
get some backstory? And what then she's talking about our
US session Jeff Sessions, you're a christ figure. I mean,
it was like and then some people you can see
are figuring out how to get out of it right right,
And then I was just very honest. As soon as

(15:41):
I found out it was a medical marijuana I was like, oh,
I'm going to get out of this just by telling
the truth. But also fifteen dollars a day. A friend
of mine brought this up. He's like, you can't tell
me that doesn't affect justice where it's like a lot
of people don't want to be there. Uh, it messed
up five of my days right right, five. I mean,

(16:02):
granted I don't have a regular job where I have
to be somewhere, but everyone else pretty much did. And
the whole time you're just like you can see people
in their head like I'm losing this much money being
here right right, right exactly, So I want to make
it every a lot of people fucking angry in there too.

(16:22):
I've never been in like a holding room with potential
jurors with relaxed people. No, no, people were mad, And
then the people that want to be there, You're just like,
what is wrong with you? Right? They're like I want
to put someone in jail, Yes, yes, that whole thing,
like that's a very real thing where you're like, I don't.
But that is a bias, right, that biases who the

(16:45):
panel is going to be. It's gonna be retired people,
it's going to be people who like have some weird
like I've I've been to jerry duty like three times,
and the only time I did it was like when
I was in college and like hated my summer job
and so like didn't actively try and get out of it.

(17:05):
So I was on like a wrongful death case with
a bunch of other people. Yeah, it's like, all you
have a life experience to be thinking about a wrongful
death too, as a dude trying to get out of college,
job exactly have a good opinion on things, right. But yeah,
it's a very specific type of person. Yeah. I was

(17:26):
like tip to l A people try and go to
the Burbank courthouse. Oh yeah, if you go downtown there.
I mean they have a lot of cases going through there.
But when I was in Burbank, They're like, yeah, we
only have one court room open right now. So I
think we've we don't even we're not even hearing anything
to I've gone twice and been like asked to go.
Yeah I did Santa Monica and they were like does
anybody like is it not convenient for you to be

(17:48):
here because of work? And like half of the people
just like moved to the section they said to move
to them. They're like, all right, later, like let us
go after two days, wonder Hey any of y'all like
not trying to be here at all? Okay. This judge
was like he took his time asking people to get
and then when it was my turn, I was like,

(18:09):
I am prepped for this. There were three. There were
four defendants. Three of them had public defenders. One of
them couldn't speak English. Uh is it for for possessing?
It was like running as I think it was some
kind of weird zoning. And when it was my turn,
you know, you have to say if you've been arrested before,

(18:30):
and I've definitely been arrested before, and one of the
most possession of marijuana. And then I could tell when
you have to say your job, and I was like,
I'm a comedian. I could feel all the eyes like
people weren't paying attention and they're like, oh, okay, this
guy is fearless. And at one point the judges like,

(18:50):
you know, you can say anything you want. We're not
going to judge you here, and I, without even thinking,
I was like, I don't care if you judge me
or not. That got a huge laugh. And then I
just said, listen, I'm a patient for medical marijuana. And
then the judge made this big thing the first day
about how you don't want somebody in there to get
into the jury and and polluted and to get you know,

(19:13):
blah blah blah, and I said, I'm going to tell
you if I got on this jury that's what I
would do because since Citizens United passed, the laws aren't
being made to represent the people. And oh this But
the defense attorney's eyes lit up and they were smiling
and they were like, keep talking because I was polluting

(19:34):
what I knew what I was doing. And I said,
I was like, and it's obvious. There's three public defenders here.
No one made any money off this. This is a
weird political case. And the judge goes, okay, I understand
what you're saying. Um, thank you very much. Like he
cut me off real quick. When I was getting on
my soapbox. I was like, so I don't understand. And
he was like, well you understand, Like could you separate

(19:58):
who makes this law because this is like a zoning
And I was like, no, I understand that. And my
problem comes with who is regulating these laws and zoning.
Is it a marijuana conglomerate or a representative of someone
with a ton of money, right, So they're just boxing
out the little people, right, And he goes, okay, so

(20:18):
we'll just get to the thing, could you blah blah blah.
I was like, absolutely not. Now, so we'll get to
the part where we kick you the funk out of
here or just talking about jury nullification and then they'll
get you, really get you the funky it was. Yeah,
it was. It was clear there you don't want people
knowing about that. And when I said that this is
this is a clear political case right there, it was like,
I'm out here, But what if I wanted to nullify

(20:39):
this law as a remember, don't let people know about
that power. Yeah, alright, let's get into the stories of
the day. We want to start out with the fact
that Jeff Bezos is entering the space race. This is
the world we live in now where uh, you know,
instead of being nations in space race is against one another.

(21:01):
It's just like two very very wealthy men in space
races because they, you know, are having somewhat of a
dick measuring contest. But Jeff stick can go further into
space back inside. Whose science can go further? Mind smaller
but moves but more efficient. Yeah. So Basis actually had

(21:23):
some interesting things to say. He was talking about how
the Solar system can easily support a trillion humans, and
if we had a trillion humans, we would have a
thousand Einsteins and a thousand Mozarts and unlimited resources, which
I think is an interesting and underrated part of progress
and the history of progress. People keep talking about how

(21:46):
much progress is speeding up and how like science and
technology is moving really fast, and I think a big
part of that is, and people have speculated that a
big part of that is that we have like a
huge pop pulation of people, and we're also, you know,
creating a form of government that, more than any in history,

(22:07):
actually lets you know, a large portion of the population
contribute and have a voice, and you know in the past,
like there's a reason the extent in theory. Yeah, more
so than in history. Is all I'm saying, in a broad,
loose sense, we are moving in the right ish direction. Yeah,

(22:28):
the idea that the solar system can support a trillion
humans is he's saying that we're gonna have to inhabit
other planets, because I think that's what he goes on.
He was saying that, I believe that in that time frame,
we will move all heavy industry off Earth, and Earth
will be zoned residential and light industry, which is crazy
to be like, Okay, move on, I shoot off, and

(22:48):
then Earth is just a big apartment complex. Yeah. I
think the way he's envisioning it is that it's going
to be like factories and ship like that. Like all
the stuff that's like belch and grows smoke and ship
that we now just relegate to New Jersey will actually
be on other planets, and you know, there will be
those like giant oil refineries and they will just rename
that planet New Jersey. It just sounds to me like

(23:12):
a rich dude, very aware of his legacy at all
times sounding because all of this is not new. It
just sounds like basic science fiction. Yeah. So, but it's
like a grandiose, rich dude who's like, now I'm now
the richest man in the world and the history of
the world, in the history of the world, and what

(23:34):
I foresee is what everyone else foresees that we cannot
live on this planet forever and we need to go further.
And but I'm the one who said it first and
the loudest and can control the message because I have
all the billing most money. Yes, I mean I don't,
yeah exactly, like, but I don't think it's like really
sitting at home being like, let me really theorize about space.

(23:57):
You know, he talked to some people and I was like, yeah, okay,
that makes you pull money to that all right, fun,
what you need a billion? Okay greatly. Yeah, he was like,
I'm going to liquidate a billion of my Amazon winnings
every year for the next way to see your wealth
of ship exactly, converting my Amazon winnings into space. There's

(24:19):
an interesting article in Bloomberg called the Massive Prize Luring
Miners to the Stars where it talks about the amount
of resources in all the different asteroids that are just
like within visible like distance from Earth and the amount
of resources like there's like a hundred quadrillion dollars worth

(24:40):
of just raw resources that you can mind these asteroids.
Oh my god, got a bridle them there you go.
So it's like Armageddon. You just get that same crew
of like you know, deep sea drillers out there and
start mining the strip clubs throughout Houston and want exactly

(25:03):
all right, We're gonna take a quick break, we'll be
right back, and we're back. And we wanted to do
a quick check in with Kanye because there was some
news in the world of Kanye since last we spoke.

(25:25):
He stopped by TMZ to do one of his patented
Kanye slash trump rants uh rants just goes Kanye Jazz
on the inhabitants of the TMZ office. And one of
the places that he ventured was talking about slavery and

(25:47):
saying that slavery was a choice. Yeah, that I think
officially signaled to most of the world that Kanye has
left Earth and is now joining the rest of the
sort of out of touch people, then the unread, unlearned
people who are conflating uh, free thought with critical thought.
Because yes again after that, and he got flamed clearly

(26:11):
for saying something as inflammatory and absurd that slavery is
a choice. That's why by definition it is called anyway. Look,
I don't don't don't get me spinning my wheels on definition.
But then he then he had to back it up
because then there's this whole Twitter hashtag of slavery was
a choice, which, shout out to Twitter. One of the
few times you like Twitter is because in mass people

(26:31):
have put their senses of humor on display to talk
about such an absurd notion like slavery being a choice. Um.
But then that obviously, because Kanye is ego, will not
allow him to say that he was ever wrong. He
was like you see that was that was an idea
I had, and I don't really believe this is an idea.
And see that's my free thought. Once again, I am
being attacked for ideas that I'm putting out there. What

(26:53):
he said, it's some bullshit. It doesn't even matter. Like essentially,
you know, you can't use the free thought defense to
back up when when a hot take blows up in
your face. So he's confusing freedom of thought with not
knowing how history works, which, yes, not being aware how
things have actually happened freese your mind because then you

(27:13):
think anything can happen, or you think, yeah, maybe slavery
was a choice. Who knows because you haven't read about history,
you don't actually or you don't know what the word
slavery makes that by definition, it's a it's always the
people whom who know the least history and sometimes very

(27:35):
smart people who just don't know anything that actually happened
or don't know like what words mean. That confuse freedom
of thought with just being able to think whatever the
funk you want, whether it has any coherence to the truth.
So it's it's it's consequences, it's freedom of consequences. I

(27:55):
want to say and do whatever I want without anyone
else reacting to me, and you're like, well, that's not
how anything works. And also he's a really really talented
music producer. There we go, Yeah exactly, let's treat him
like that. Yeah. Well, I think the outrage just becomes

(28:15):
again because the content of his music seems so aligned
with everything that is not what he is right now.
That the reason why he's in the news that people
are getting over the shock of being like, oh, this
guy was I think just selling this idea of empowerment
and ship just to sell records and then right and then,
but they can't. Also, it's I think it's even harder

(28:36):
to grasp that a person of color would sell that out,
you know, so quickly. Yeah, okay, exactly, Okay, that's what
I still started. That's what that's the first I didn't
tweet it or anything, but that's the quote that came
to my mind. Was like, he's living in a bubble now,
no exactly. And to me, he's more proof that it's

(28:58):
rich versus poor more than color or any other green
hundred person. He is the proof of once you get
a certain amount of money in a capitalistic society, you
own a lot. Yeah, it's power, and you've left and
you've left the real world and you are not. Rosanne
is another fucking example, right. So suffice it to say

(29:22):
he thought he was at TMZ just to get some
clicks and say some crazy shit. And after he did
his really cool take on history, he then posited to
the entire bullpen at TMZ what their thoughts were on
his new ideology. Do you feel that I'm feeling dude?
Do you feel that I'm being free and I'm thinking free?
I actually, I actually don't think you're thinking anything. I

(29:46):
think what you're doing right now is actually the absence
of thought. And the reason why I feel like that
is because, Kanye, you're entitled to your opinion. You're entiled
to believe whatever you want. But there is fact and
real world, real life costs a quince behind everything that
you just said. While you are making music and being

(30:06):
an artist and living a life that you've earned by
being a genius, the rest of us in society have
to deal with these threats to our lives. We have
to deal with the marginalization that has come from the
four hundred years of slavery that she said for our
people was a choice. Frankly, I'm disappointed. I'm appalled, and brother,

(30:28):
I am unbelievably hurt by the fact that you have
morphed into something to me that's not real m. That
is what I think every most people wanted to say
the fucking guy to his face for the last couple
of weeks or last week at least. So yeah, that
was von Lathan and the most appropriate time for that,

(30:51):
Stephen A. Smith Cadence, right exactly. Yeah, that's when it's
called for right now, you know, and you can tell
it like Kanye was as like when you look at
the shots of this exchange go down, he's kind of
thinking like, oh wow, like his gears are going because
he's having to have a moment. He's like, none of
the sick of fans around me talks like this. And
I think that it was an interesting moment for him

(31:13):
because he goes everywhere and everyone kisses his ass and
blows smoke up his ass like he ain't saying shit
that's fucking wrong or completely ignorant, and then cut to
someone who is outside of his circle, you know, taking
him to task on all the ship that he's saying,
was it live? When that happened, like was it being broadcast? No,
that video I think was cut together, but I mean

(31:33):
that was a moment that had just happened. But it's
also not in his controlled environment and everything like ant no, no,
because he sat down first when he said the four slate,
he was with like Harvey Levin and the dude with
the dreadlocks like and they that's when he said that
other ship. And then when he got up, that's when
he was like, well, what do y'all think? And that's
when the people in the bullpen were like, actually, yes,

(31:54):
I have something to say. So yeah, shout out to
von Lathan and again, yes, I don't think we need
to discussed as much further because you know, they're even
studies that find that, you know, wealthy people are less
cooperative when the sort of when income inequality is visible
to them, they are less likely to share. Like there
was a game that was set up I forget what

(32:15):
I think it was at Yale where they did a
bunch of experiments where they're like people from around the world,
they just they grouped them into online networks to play
this like economics game and each participant was given like
an income. So like some person was going to be wealthy,
some person not so much, uh, some person like middle
class or whatever. And when they said, okay, here's the game.
If you cooperate, you will be contributing some of your wealth,

(32:37):
will give up some of your wealth, so everyone else's
fortunes go up. But if you defect, that means you
pay nothing and you can still reap the rewards of
other people paying into you to lift you up. Now,
when those people saw what they had relative to other people,
people who had the higher incomes were not willing to share.
When the inequality was invisible, everyone was more likely to
cooperate with each other. So like already you begin to like,

(33:00):
just when you know you have more, there's just this thing,
this part of us or certain people that just sort
of does not allow them to sort of like you know,
there's a there is a phenomenon that that sort of
wealth status can affect how willing you are to like
a lizard brain thing. Right, It's like, yeah, they become
immediately defensive. They're like WHOA, well, you know, people are

(33:21):
gonna think that this is unfair because it is. I
had thought like if I was a billionaire, it was
because what Michelle said at the end of her thing
where she was like, Flint still doesn't have I was like,
I just thought of like who the richest people were,
Like they could throw a check, that's all they need.
And then I started I was like, well, you know,
if I had fifty million dollars, you know what president

(33:42):
are you setting for? Blah blah blah. Understanding that thought,
but then it was like, oh, that's why I would
never be a billionaire is because I couldn't keep that
money like that, I would have a certain amount of
money for me and then everything else would just be
because of the way I was raised. Like I've I've

(34:02):
read those studies like that too, where it's like people
with money, it's not that they don't think of community
as much because they don't have to. And I learned
that when I was in a fraternity in college. Like
I looked back and was like, was not a good
experience at the time or anything. You know, I had
fun and there's sometimes but like looking back, I was like,
but I learned how people that had money operated, So

(34:26):
there was like times where I just didn't understand like
how they thought because I was like, no, we're putting
this money and We're all going to do this thing,
and they're no, No, I got it. It's like I'm
taking care of and where I was thinking of the
group as a whole. And so it was like I
remember being very frustrated not understand that, but as I
got older looking back, like, oh, they weren't dick heads.

(34:49):
They just it's something that never occurred to It's weird
thing to have empathy for people, and Kanye's around a
bunch of people who will just say yes, yes, yes,
yes yes. So that coupled with his uh ignorance is
a very bad combination. Yeah. And the idea that you
just mentioned of it being more a thing of rich

(35:12):
people versus poor people, I think is the most dangerous
idea in America, the idea that people do not want
anybody to have, which I think there's a reason that
Martin Luther King Jr. Got killed once he started pointing
that out, and RFK got killed when he started pointing
like made poverty instead of like anything else his main mission.

(35:36):
And then I also think RFK got killed because his
dad fucked over the mafia. If we're being honest, well,
they were both focusing on that and got killed in
the paper to the music. Yeah, and then but I
think on the other side of the coin, the idea
like having Kanye come around to the rich people side

(35:58):
and be like a cultural for that people from all
economic strata identify with. That's why you're seeing this like
out pouring from the right of people being like, yes,
finally we got one, Like we can also who can
like convince them to just be cool, because, like you're saying,
Kanye doing this also further deepens the racial divide too,

(36:20):
which is a key element to not getting people who
are disenfranchised to not focus on race and be like, wait,
hold up, we're We're an entire class of people that
is being affected like this, and with Kanye doing this
kind of ship, it further distracts people from the idea
of this kind of the haves and the have nots
of sort of like being like because now everyone's like,
you know, within the community of people of colors, like

(36:41):
you know, what the fund is this dude talking about?
And now it's just all about what is this guy doing,
trying to figure him out what's going on? Blah blah blah,
when really it's like, no, let him go. We have
a better way to do. It's just like there are
there are people who actually Ben Carson, oh yeah, Ben
Carson is he's gone. But he's the same if if
you and I'm not talking about race at all, I'm
just talking about the same kind of the man is

(37:02):
a brain surgeon and brilliant brain surgeon. That's it. That's it. Yeah,
that's it. He doesn't need to do anything else. Like
I have a friend who works at a hedge fund.
He doesn't run, and he's I don't even know how
he got the it's pure nepotism, it has to be.
But he talks about He's like, we get a lot
of doctor's money because they think they're good at other stuff.

(37:25):
He's like a lot of the doctors don't have money
because they just throw money at the dumbest stuff like
goats or like you know, lama farms and stuff like
that because they think they're like athletes because they're really
good at one thing. I think they're good at everything.
And it's like, that's what's happening to Kanye because we
build him up because he's good at beats. Yeah, well hey,

(37:46):
look all the way from Earth as his spaceship goes
off right, good at beats back when you wake up.
Let's talk about some other stories. Ty Cobb is out.
He is retiring from uh, Donald Trump's legal team. This
is the guy who has all along been somewhat unnerving

(38:08):
in how steadfast he was and being like, no, we're
going to cooperate. Of course, we'll cooperate. We have nothing
to hide, even though his mustache made him look like
a fucking Looney Tunes. Yeah, but yeah, he's like Wilford Brimley,
got ahold of his diabetes. Yeah, diabetes, handle it. Um.
He's retiring. They're bringing in, uh a guy by the
name of Emmett T. Flood. I mean, how's that not

(38:31):
a fictional It's like a minor league baseball players of names.
Is a major league major league racist? Just one of
the best. But mtt Flood has a history of defending
presidents and working in White House Counsel's office. Uh. He
was on the team that defended Clinton during his impeachment. Uh.

(38:53):
He represented Bush regarding executive privilege. So he has a
history of being involved when the most powerful person in
the country is in an adversarial relationship with somebody who's
coming for them, and that appears to be the direction
things they're taking. There's no more what's he do when

(39:14):
he's not defending the president's what's his like? In between?
Is a conservative lawyer? Okay, yeah, I mean as someone
that has hired lawyers, you do want the conservative you
really do, because they're exhausting and they take care of
it's smart. Yeah. Well, no, this is clearly a choice

(39:35):
because you know, prior to this it was seemingly will cooperate,
and now bringing this person to me is okay, we
need to fight this ship. Uh, And it seems like
now would be the time, considering all the pressure that
people are in the orbit of the Trump campaign. It's mountain.
They're tooling up. They're like, I mean, and look at
the Rebolican congressmen that are announcing their retirement. It's just

(39:57):
jumping off the ship. Just get out, I guess, more
aggressive legal strategy. Now. It's crazy that we feel like
the news is crazy right now and we're probably in
the column before the storm, like where things are about
to get really crazy, like this is the episode before
the penultimate episode in Game of Thrones. This is like
where everybody's just getting ready and we think that this

(40:19):
ship is hard to keep up with. It's just like
there's it's like the first scene in Gangs in New York,
for like all those underground like rat people are like
sharpening their close like oh fun, and then you don't
realize they're about to emerge from the underground and just
let the blood spill in the streets and that's what
we'll be like, Oh, Brendan Gleason just smushed that guy's

(40:40):
head with a club. Oh they're they're killing each other.
I walked into that movie five minutes late and way
too high. My friend turned to me, goes, are we
in the right movie? It's like so intense. I remember
that around that time, my high school football team was
about to play in the championship game to see I
have finals and my mom was like an Academy member whatever.

(41:03):
So we had the screener and the movie hadn't come
out yet, and I was like, y'all need to come
over and see the scene before y'all go into battle.
Played it for them and everyone was so pumped up
because like gritty snare track that's playing in like a
weird flute and you know, shout out to Daniel Day
just like walks in and plants his fucking foot man.
That character, the way he plants a foot, it's just like, yeah,

(41:24):
you're not gonna move me off. This was his son,
site Michael, And what did he do? He costs the
devil from Paradoise. God, that's a weird time for you
guys to laugh there, yea. Anyway, so yeah, the storm
is imminent. Yeah, because as if you look at it too,
there's even you know, the the Freedom Caucus guys are

(41:47):
even trying to you know, leak articles of impeachment against
Rod Rosenstein. How did that go up? Well, the thing is,
I said this a couple of weeks ago. They're clearly
manufacturing a conflict to try and create some kind of
pretext to fire Rod Rosenstein. Right, been last week when
they were like, oh, we need these comy memos. If
you don't give them, I mean what you need to
you know, that's contempt of Congress. New thing now is
they're leaking these articles of impeachment and you know these

(42:10):
guys are like, well you know this, that's a last resort.
Clearly you're just trying to publicly exert pressure to further
this narrative and try and be like they're trying to
basically threaten the d o J and the compliance because
they want things like you need to look into Hillary's
emails again, or you need to talk about like how
these PISO warrants were given based on the dodgy dossy,
Like you know, it's just all this bullshit that they're

(42:31):
hanging on to defend the president. And so when that happened,
everyone was like, you know, Rod Rosenstein was on c SPAN.
They're like, hey, what do you think of this? Listen
to this response from Rod Rosenstein. Yeah, There've been people
who have been uh making threats privately and publicly against
me for quite some time, and I think they should
understand by now, the Department of Justice is not going
to be extorted. We're gonna do what's required by the

(42:54):
rule of law, and any kind of threats that anybody
makes are not gonna the way we do our job. Yeah,
so he said, pull up with that energy, because I'm here,
I got old Goon waiting for you. It is like,
I feel like, as a parent, that's what Mueller in
the investigation feels like. They're just standing there where It's like,

(43:16):
I know what you guys are and what you're trying
to kids are just like kind of like, no, it's it's,
it's it's but it's also and there and like water
on it, and just like every excuse, they're like, well
what about this and this, and the kids like well
and and just lie on top of lie, on top

(43:37):
of lie, and you're like, you need to stop talking
and just take your punishment when you're being manipulated by
somebody who like thinks they're smarter than you, but they
just don't know what that you know about all this ship.
It's like I was just hanging out with her majesty
my girlfriend as I call her, Her Majesty's niece, and
it's the same thing like when a kid's really smart
and you can just kind of see that they're working you.

(43:59):
Part of me is a like to be like, Okay,
let me let this rock because I want to see
how you like where you think this is going. And
that's I'm sure like how like they all are too,
because everyone said you guys are so transparent with what
you're trying to do. You need to learn to read
your mark. Yeah, that's what I need to teach my
son too. Most of the time, you know, part of
this scam you're running is you need to know if

(44:20):
they're buying the scam or not. You gotta your mark
selection is off. My man, let me had to run
a real scam. Let's go into this target real quick, exactly.
And I walk with a limp. Yeah, this dude pet
boys tried to scam me. And I just started laughing
and we walked out and my son goes, what just happened?
And I was like, well, you see when he quoted
the first price as like fifteen hundred dollars, that makes

(44:43):
it seem like the real prices a lot lower, you know,
than it. And he was like, oh, he's anchor, and
that's called anchor, And like, you ever watch what people
are doing. Man, it's about the Overton window. You thought
it was a joke and and I was like, and
it was, but it's also another thing, right right right? No,

(45:04):
I mean it's again, it's just everyone's getting in trouble
day by day as it's happening. And now there's even
like speculation about like what's going on with Avonka and
stuff too. Yeah, this was an interesting story. In Politico.
They asked the question that I guess I hadn't even
thought of, but yeah, Avonka's allegedly at the center of
all this ship, like many many things, at the center

(45:26):
of most of the scams. Like she is, She's like
the one that they send over and does the well
she has. You know, she lobbied for Paul Manaford to
join the campaign. She was in Bedminster when Trump decided
to fire Comy, she was on the plane when they
were trying to figure out how to spin the Trump
Tower meeting. And again, there ways to look at it.
On one side, they could say that despite those things

(45:49):
on paper seeming like she's involved, it's very possible that
her explanation is during the Bedminster thing when Comy was
getting fired, she was with her kids. She wasn't with
her dad. Yes she was there, but she was with
her kids on the plane. She was like on the
back of the plane doing her own ship or whatever,
taking those ambients from Dr Ronnie exactly, and so like, Yes,
there are a couple of theories as to yeah, like

(46:09):
how the funk has she not been called in now?
The nicest one is that, look, Muther's just being very
careful and not taking any unnecessary risk, because again it
is possible, yeah, right, that it's possible that she may
have been at those places and may not have done
any anything wrong, or you know, she was in many
meetings that he's already interviewed people that were also there,

(46:30):
so there's no need to double up because there aren't
many times when she's exclusively the only person that was
like worth talking to. Then you could also say that
mother's being careful because he may probably does want to
talk to her, but he can't do it yet because
that will put Trump, if he's a tesla, it will
put him into insanity mode, and he'll just try and
rage fire the entire deal, to burn Twitter to the ground.

(46:53):
And then because obviously his closest and most favorite partner
and child that he's ever had, and so now we
know like things are look a little murky. But also
the one that political points out her DC enemies. Their
theory is that Ivanka knows so much that Mueller is
getting all of his ducks in a row to be
able to corner her like legally before he questions her,

(47:14):
and he basically knows like that will be the finality,
the grand finality. The New Yorker reporter who wrote about
this being the final stages of the Trump presidency in
the sense that there is no conceivable future where they
are not just completely overwhelmed by scandal. Uh, a lot
of the financial crimes that he talks about, she was

(47:36):
like the main point person, right, Like, so she's probably
going to be in trouble almost definitely going to be
in trouble one way or another, whether it's during this
presidency or after this presidency. So you know, she got
her hands dirty. And like they have emails where she
and Don Trump Jr. I think are emailing back and
forth being like, man, hopefully people don't catch us in

(47:58):
this financial crime workmitting like they're just like nearly real
dumb about it. Yeah, so uh yeah, but I do
think he's probably wise if he's uh not you know,
tripping that alarm because not a normal relationship. No, him
and his daughter, just the way he feels about her
seems sexual. It seems sexual. Alright, we're gonna take a

(48:27):
quick break. We will be right back and we're back.
Uh and what are we gonna go out on miles?
We're running on time. We've got two stories left stories
Like first up, Zi Gang, I have to say we
have to declare war. It is time for war because

(48:50):
Trader Joe's has launched a podcast, and we must destroy
it now. I don't know what's really motivating my anger here.
I don't really either, because I kind of funk with
some of the ships. It's more just I think it
funny because now everyone has a podcast? Is really what
this says? I don't Oh, well, look you're on here,

(49:10):
I'm working on Yeah, you're working man, you don't you
got you gotta verified check. But manager, that's the one
thing she won't say every time she talks to me,
how's your podcast here? Listen to? Yeah, well they got
their ship together? They listen to their manager because they
have launched today Inside Trader Joe's and it's like a
five episode limited series. But it's like they talk about

(49:32):
everything to like how they developed their products, like you know,
how the tasters, uh, you know, weigh in on how
ship should work and things like that. So if you really, really,
really really want to know about Trader Joe's and the
workings of it, you're in look because they have a podcast.
And they even say there's even a sad explanation of
why Trader joe Cells individual bananas. So there might be

(49:53):
some dark is there? You know what they don't talk
about on that podcast because they don't think about it everything.
It's not something that company thinks about it all. Anyway,
everyone has a podcast and also Trader Joe's podcast. I'm
just waiting for, you know, my parents or one of
my parents friends to be like, oh, podcast, have you

(50:14):
heard of Trader Joe's, Like the way they do with
like cereal or this Americans right, and this could be
the next serial. But another thing, because Billy, I know
you're a very big baseball fan former player, that the
Rockies are doing something very interesting called the business Person Special.
Now that is not a massage parlor deal. This is
a deal. For twenty one dollars, a business person, someone

(50:36):
who just wants to do work, can get a standing
room only ticket with alleged to put your laptop, a cheeseburger, fries,
and a beer and WiFi. So you can now work
at the ballpark. Because baseball games are so slow moving,
they're like, fuck, you could probably do work here too.
That's smart. Yeah, that's what we call in the industry
a two screen experience. In the world of bullshit marketing, yeah,

(51:00):
I mean, but it's funny, is like I think in
the Denver Post that like someone a couple of people
went to a couple of games, and like, yeah, it's
mostly people just taking advantage of like the deal. They're
like a couple of people that did have laptops they
were having to do with people like spilling beer and yeah, yeah,
so they're still working it out. But again, I think
it does make sense, like because I clearly I think
there's an attendance issue at Major League Baseball game, especially

(51:22):
during a day game, because there's a hundred and sixty
two Yeah right, every team plays a hundred and sixty two.
So it's like you can't feel forty people. No, no, no, no,
even when they're good. Yeah no, seriously, I mean a
fucking midweek day game, rest in peace. If it's not
it's not during the summer, like just it's not many

(51:42):
people look for those just because that's what that fits
my schedule. And there's still not enough of those the midweek. Yeah,
how many? Maybe like a lot of them are Sundays, right,
Sundays is like but to me, a Wednesday noon, one
thirty game, come on, yeah, that's perfect. But there's also
I'm also like, yeah, and if I lived in the

(52:04):
nineteen fifties where there's only baseball, so I could just
skip out of work. I'm already a little drunk from
work anyway. Yeah, yeah, that was like one of the excuses.
It's like tuberculosis or you got tickets to the game.
Those are excused absences from work. Uh, Billy, It's been
a pleasure having it. It's always a pleasures, always a

(52:26):
pleasure having you. Where can people find you at Billy
Wayne Davis on Instagram? That's just go there because that's
gonna be where I put every most of the information.
And then uh or just google Billy Wayne Davis. I
have a record out and then I'm around l A
the next couple weeks doing stand up and then I'm
going on tour because I'm getting ready for a special

(52:49):
in the fall, so I'll be touring quite a bit
until October. The look out for those days. You look
out for Bill go see him. One of the funniest dudes.
I'm good, live, really good, Uh miles working people farm here.
You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles
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(53:12):
Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter. We're at the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram.
We have Facebook fan page and a website Daily Zeitgeist
dot com. Or we post our episodes and their footnote
link off to the information that we talked about in
today's episode. That is going to do it for today, Miles,
what are we riding out on? Okay? So we have
a song by Taylor McFerrin, son of Bobby mcferron, actual

(53:36):
Taylor Swift, because yeah, Taylor Swift and Bobby mcfarren I
had the child would be Taylor mcfarren is his oldest son.
Taylor mcfarren really great a musician. Uh. This is a
track called Place in My Heart with this vocalist called
riots r y a t uh. And this is a
Dompe little track. Um production is dope. And it's in seven,
not a time signature most pop music listeners are used to,

(53:58):
so you know, vibe out to this piece. Uh, and
it's hump day, So just get over the hump in seven,
you know, because ay man odd meter man, you know
what I mean? Like people like to just to do
things like everyone's so used to want to four to
two or three here once to two two, three, one seven,
who can like take five, isn't five you do do

(54:19):
doo do doom doom doom doom doom, like those sort
of off meter things. That's that's where the people who
like listening to music. I feel like that's like how
you sort of flex your your grasp on the music.
So keep this song and uh, just enjoy yourselves, guys,
just just keep on keeping on and we will be
back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast. Talk to
you guys. Then bye bye. He stop he was so

(55:12):
hep on't stop, he an't stop. He outside heart stop.
I can hear you the side hit it on the
grounds you're raty refilled to me, you're not in a

(55:43):
bless That seemed Farya so day. I had a time

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even leave. I couldn't leave myself. I couldn't call myself
to stand. Say hard something, save her stone, shave heart

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to bad, say love, oh joy, I say no joy.
If I say love, he won't try Christie love. We

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all say love, keep sleep bad, dear all bad. You

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can say stop, say party stop to stay part stop bad.

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I try to say oh Joey, I say joy, I
say pay, try to say so lazy a place to place,

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a place that will while will try to be a
storm can try to be place. Sim play sim